The Infinite Crisis Thread (SPOILERS)

[That-Guy]

What is Black Zero? Sorry... I'm not familiar with this character. Sounds cool, though.


Yeah, I do have to agree... multiple versions of one character get really annoying... it seems to be particularly irritating here though because they're all versions of Superman, Lex Luthor, or both (Conner).

[Shadowknight]

A decent picture of Black Zero. Notice the similarities to the Superboy's outfit http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/BlackZero.htm

Best info I can find online on the character http://www.challengersoftheunknown.com/Superboy60-65.html It's a good story, one well worth hunting down

Oh, forgot the best part... while conquering Earths of different realities, he assembled an army of hundreds of Doomsdays. He hadn't encountered a Superman on any of the Earths so far, but he said he'd just let all the Doomsdays deal with him. He had an army of cloned Guardians as shock troops, and had several hundred Superboys captured and put into suspended animation.

During the course of the storyline, Superboy runs into the Silverage Superboy he met (and who cleaned his clock) in Zero Hour. This time they were friendly and somewhat brotherly. This Superboy revealed that he was Clark Kent, and this was how the "our" Superboy found out Superman's ID, though he never told Superman this, until Superman later told him his ID of his own voilation on "our" earth. It had Krypto, silverage Smallville, the basement with science experiments and Superboy robots, etc. Classic Superboy, not psycho Infinite Crises Superboy-prime.

[drastic_quench]

That sounds no less contrived than what we've got now.

[yenaled]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/InfiniteCrisis/cover6/infinitecrisis6_5.jpg

thought you might like to see this.

[GoldenAgeHero]

nice!!

[fifthfiend]

All this Superman E-1, Superman E-2, Superboy Prime, test-tube Superboy, LoSH pocket Universe Superboy is giving me a headache.

I just wish they'd dump the current Superboy characterization and have Karl Kessel write him again.

Joe Kelly would also be acceptable, to my mind.

[drastic_quench]

inks! brilliant!

[Assassin]

is thats why it's delayed? because it isnt finished yet?

[Darthphere]

is thats why it's delayed? because it isnt finished yet?


The last issue was delayed, aso everything is coming out a week late after. I think.:confused:

[Kurosawa]

All this Superman E-1, Superman E-2, Superboy Prime, test-tube Superboy, LoSH pocket Universe Superboy is giving me a headache.

I just wish they'd dump the current Superboy characterization and have Karl Kessel write him again. I particuarly liked the hypertime storyline with Black Zero. A Superboy who Cadmus had grown to full maturity and become evil. He had a slick look, and with the whole Hypertime as multi-verse thing they had going on, his conquering multiple worlds would have worked as a lower power version of the Anti-Monitor.

How hard can it be to understand? I've never had a problem handling any of it. People understand Marvel's Ultimates easily enough.

[droogiedroogie2]

I remember the Black Zero storyline! It was way back when I only read Star Wars comics, and my brother used to pick up an issue or two of whatever he noticed in the supermarket racks. He grabbed a Superboy issue from the Black Zero arc, the first issue of some Hulk book (started out with Banner on a bus, I kind of liked the writing), a Captain America issue about a white supremacist group called Sons of the Shield or something, and some Justice League comic about a teen girl who gets powers and joins the League before somehow losing her powers again.

[droogiedroogie2]

well thats easy for you to say, i wonder if you would do the same if you were in a fight. if someone was fighting you one on one i doubt you would runaway from the fight, even if you dont plan on beating the guy to death.How many times have we seen and heard Superman give speeches on holding back? That's what it means to wear the S, and that's what SBP doesn't get. You have the power to punch out God but you don't let it loose unless Doomsday is on your ass, or you're fighting Darkseid in what was tragically the last episode of JLU.

Any body read robin?

Batman Robin and Nightwing were in buddapest for the some part if not all of the past year training and working on their relationshipYou know what? That's cool. They needed to do that. My only problem is that Nightwing's a Goddamn manwhore now. Whoever's idea it was to have him get engaged and then break it off the next ****ing issue needs to eat a turd.

Heh. Does anyone else remember the show "They Came From Outer Space?" This post reminded me of it. It was about these two alien brothers whose power was connected so that one of them could actually give the other one his energy; thus one brother could become like a Superman while the other walked around in slow motion. Also, in an unrelated note, if one brother had sex with someone, the opposite one got pleasure out of it.[/spoiler]Never saw it, but that sounds pretty absurd. I'll have to download it.

[quote=Shadowknight]
All this Superman E-1, Superman E-2, Superboy Prime, test-tube Superboy, LoSH pocket Universe Superboy is giving me a headache.

I just wish they'd dump the current Superboy characterization and have Karl Kessel write him again. I particuarly liked the hypertime storyline with Black Zero. A Superboy who Cadmus had grown to full maturity and become evil. He had a slick look, and with the whole Hypertime as multi-verse thing they had going on, his conquering multiple worlds would have worked as a lower power version of the Anti-Monitor.So lots of Superboys bothers you, so your solution is to go back to the Legion of Superboys?

On a related note, I think it would have been cool for them to bring back Black Zero in Infinite Crisis, now that we're talking about him. Way cooler than Super***** Prime.

[Infinity9999x]

Does anybody have any idea when they're going to release a TPB of IC? Because my comic store is far enough away from my house that I'd probably spend more money driving there and back then I would buying the trade twice. Especially with the insane gas prices now.

[rnewbz]

Does anybody have any idea when they're going to release a TPB of IC? Because my comic store is far enough away from my house that I'd probably spend more money driving there and back then I would buying the trade twice. Especially with the insane gas prices now.

I think newsarma mentioned it being either july or august, but i think it's going to be HB before it goes to TBP

[Shadowknight]

How hard can it be to understand? I've never had a problem handling any of it. People understand Marvel's Ultimates easily enough.
It's not hard to understand, it's just giving me a headache.

As to the "Legion of Superboys" that was a one-time gimic. I'm just referring to just using Black Zero. I liked the character, and I'm disappointed he's never been used again :(

[That-Guy]

You know who I'd like to see come back in a major way? The Eradicator. Apparently, he was in a Superman issue recently that I missed and he got attacked by an OMAC and was injured, but that's all I know. Anyway, he was the only one of the "Four Supermen" that I really liked (well, the Cyborg makes a cool villain but he sucked when you originally thought he was a good guy) but they haven't done much with him recently, at least not compared to Conner or Steel (once 52 comes out). I always felt the Eradicator was a more interesting character than any of the other Supermen because of his character arc (and I'm not referring at all to the scarred-face, yellow triangle wearing post-Reign Eradicator when his body was possessed by that annoying doctor). I mean, he was created as a weapon to preserve the Kryptonian culture and destroy anything that would comprimise that, and then he became a hero (albeit a contraversial one) who eventually sacrificed himself to save Superman. Plus the "Reign" Superman costume was beyond cool. Anyone else want to see more of him in the future?

[Lone]

You know who I'd like to see come back in a major way? The Eradicator. Apparently, he was in a Superman issue recently that I missed and he got attacked by an OMAC and was injured, but that's all I know. Anyway, he was the only one of the "Four Supermen" that I really liked (well, the Cyborg makes a cool villain but he sucked when you originally thought he was a good guy) but they haven't done much with him recently, at least not compared to Conner or Steel (once 52 comes out). I always felt the Eradicator was a more interesting character than any of the other Supermen because of his character arc (and I'm not referring at all to the scarred-face, yellow triangle wearing post-Reign Eradicator when his body was possessed by that annoying doctor). I mean, he was created as a weapon to preserve the Kryptonian culture and destroy anything that would comprimise that, and then he became a hero (albeit a contraversial one) who eventually sacrificed himself to save Superman. Plus the "Reign" Superman costume was beyond cool. Anyone else want to see more of him in the future?

I do.

But only if he wears the same badass costume he did in "Reign".:O

[The Watchman]

Yeah, same here, he was always a great concept...so much so that for the animated series they blended brainiacs origin with his.

...I think they could really do something interesting with him.

[That-Guy]

I agree. And yeah, he should some back with the Reign costume (though I have seen his newer look and I do like that as well, though not as much (it's a good blend of the Reign suit and his pre-reign look).

[ToddIsDead]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/InfiniteCrisis/cover6/infinitecrisis6_5.jpg

thought you might like to see this.
Looks like I'm getting another Lee cover.

[Assassin]

i was bored at work so i printed it and traced it and re inked it..wasted my whole pen lol

[Lackey]

I'm not sure how many of you have seen this... major spoiler at the link --

http://comicbookresources.com/news/preview.php?image=litg/robinspoiler.jpg

[That-Guy]

Hmmm... well, I don't think THAT message can be any clearer... I know one poster on this board who is going to be happy with this news.

[I_am_budders]

I'm not sure how many of you have seen this... major spoiler at the link --

http://comicbookresources.com/news/preview.php?image=litg/robinspoiler.jpg

That news makes me sad. :(

[Doc Destruction]

Yeah, we saw that coming.

[ToddIsDead]

I'm going to forgoe reading that. I want to go into the next issue with next to no spoiler knowledge.

[That-Guy]

I'm going to forgoe reading that. I want to go into the next issue with next to no spoiler knowledge.


Too bad because I'm going to spoil it for you. The link is to a site that explains that the already established, crossover characters are none other than...

http://www.freecomputerdesktopwallpaper.com/new_wallpaper/Calvin_and_Hobbes_comics_cartoons_freecomputer_des ktopwallpaper_1280.jpg

[ToddIsDead]

Calvin and Hobbs!!! I've been waiting for them to kick Superman's ass for years! What a joyess day.

[That-Guy]

LOL! How priceless would it be if Bill Watterson and Phil Jiminez teamed up redo that scene at the end of IC#1 where E2 Supes breaks out of the paradise dimesion and replaces him with Calvin, Luthor with Hobbes, Lois with Susie, and SBP with Moe?

[ToddIsDead]

That would be awesome. Someone has to draw that picture. It would be too funny.

[That-Guy]

THIS IS A JOB FOR STUPENDOUS MAN!!!!


Hey, he could move planets. I remember. He pushed the earth back a full 24 hours so that he wouldn't have to do his homework until the next day. It was awesome.

[ToddIsDead]

Hahaha, that's funny. I'd just go forward or backward to the weekend though. And keep doing it.

[That-Guy]

Wait... here you go. I give you... the ORIGINAL Superboy Prime!


http://www.zonalibre.org/blog/vidakaos/archives/stupendousman.gif

http://www.electricferret.com/battle/contenders/cd_stup.jpg

[ToddIsDead]

LOL. Hilarious.

[That-Guy]

Yeah. DC ripped off Calvin! See! I have proof! Infinite Crisis is just a retread of something in the Sunday paper! Just kidding. :D

[ToddIsDead]

Stupendous Man versus Superboy Prime. I'm totally up for that.

[The_Mystery]

Guess this means I'll be dropping Teen Titans for good. S'cool with me, my pull list is already draining me.

[Darthphere]

Guess this means I'll be dropping Teen Titans for good. S'cool with me, my pull list is already draining me.


Huh?

[The_Mystery]

Huh?

Sorry. I was talking about the spoiler a couple of post ago.

[That-Guy]

Sorry. I was talking about the spoiler a couple of post ago.


Yeah, the spoiler said that the Teen Titans are going to now be comprised of the Wonder Twins, Captain Carrot, Calvin and Hobbes, Sally Forth and Linsay Lohan. I'd drop that book too if I regularly picked it up.

[TimDrake64x]

hes saying that because of the spoiler he wont buy teen titans anymore

[TimDrake64x]

how do u do spoiler type?

[XFanTim]

how do u do spoiler type?

You just write [/i]]stuff here

Like this: stuff here

[XFanTim]

Now here's the hard question: How did I keep the text from being blacked out on the first line?

If you're stuck, you can hit "Quote" and see.

[TimDrake64x]

dont worry though even if conner does die cause i heard that supes keeps his body and he eventually comes back to life

[GoldenAgeHero]

yeah thats not really a spoiler, that was just posted in the TT OYL thread. plus its still speculation.

[Emerald Knight]

dont worry though even if conner does die cause i heard that supes keeps his body and he eventually comes back to life

he said it was just a rumor at this time, didn't he?

[GoldenAgeHero]

he said it was just a rumor at this time, didn't he?

yeah he did.

[Vic Von Doom]

All of you are overlooking the fact that this could be a tremendous ruse. That page could be a fake.

Remember when during the first arc of Astonishing X-Men, there was that line that made you think that Jean Grey was coming back? "Why does nothing ever stay buried?" "...Jean?"

And then that page got "leaked" with Cyclops staring up at the Phoenix? Cassaday drew that just to throw people off, so...you never know. I for one will be very unhappy if this person takes a dirt nap.

[Lackey]

anyone read this week's action comics yet?

[ToddIsDead]

I won't get it until this weekend, but I really want to see if Clark gets his powers back, and how, if he does. And ofcourse how he lost them in the first place.

[GoldenAgeHero]

All of you are overlooking the fact that this could be a tremendous ruse. That page could be a fake.

Remember when during the first arc of Astonishing X-Men, there was that line that made you think that Jean Grey was coming back? "Why does nothing ever stay buried?" "...Jean?"

And then that page got "leaked" with Cyclops staring up at the Phoenix? Cassaday drew that just to throw people off, so...you never know. I for one will be very unhappy if this person takes a dirt nap.

thing is, this is an entire issue not a just a page. and we dont really care about your happiness or not.

[TimDrake64x]

dude...ur an a$$

[GoldenAgeHero]

dude...ur an a$$

go tell someone who cares about your opinion.

[Morg]

dude...ur an a$$


Knock it off or next time you get probation

and that goes to any others that flame other users too

[Assassin]

dude, he's being what that guy called him..he's starting sh** to piss ppl off. Read other threads if you dont believe me

[Lackey]

Knock it off or next time you get probation

and that goes to any others that flame other users too


Dear Morg,

Never come into the comics forums again.


Thanks :)

[That-Guy]

So, am I the only one HATING Superman running around without his powers? I don't know why, but I'm just really not liking the OYL Superman crossover. Lex is returning to more of his pre-crisis status, which I find to be pretty cool (because businessman/prez Lex was getting old and it was time for a change) but other than that, I'm really not digging this arc. For some reason, Clark without his Superman alter ego really annoys the sh** out of me. I can't explain why... maybe its just the way he's being written.

[Shadowknight]

Pretty much all of the OYL have introduced a ridiculous status quo that requires reading 52 to have any clue as to what's going on. I've been trying to avoid IC, it's lead ins, and it's tie ins as much as possible, and I still find myself exhausted from it. As much as I like Firestorm, I don't really have the energy/desire to pick up any DC books anymore. I just wish there were a few books were during the one year period it was business as usual instead of some super-mega-ultra change due to IC.

[Doc Destruction]

Too bad you're finding it exhausting. I'm finding it to be a BRILLIANT and carefully chosen storyline that actually makes me enjoy it all the more.

It's moreso amazing that the changes in OYL are not too huge of a jump at all, really. Just tweaks here and there and interesting mysteries, like where was Batman for a year, what happened to Superman, etc.

[XFanTim]

Pretty much all of the OYL have introduced a ridiculous status quo that requires reading 52 to have any clue as to what's going on. I've been trying to avoid IC, it's lead ins, and it's tie ins as much as possible, and I still find myself exhausted from it. As much as I like Firestorm, I don't really have the energy/desire to pick up any DC books anymore. I just wish there were a few books were during the one year period it was business as usual instead of some super-mega-ultra change due to IC.
I don't really think that's true (about how you have to read 52 to know what's going on OYL). You're not really supposed to know what's going on in the OYL books right now . . . the point is that the new status quo will be revealed over the next several issues.

Part of the point of OYL was to be a jumping on point for people who haven't been reading the books lately. It doesn't matter if you know what was happening before, because what's happening now is something new.

[Fledermaus]

Pretty much all of the OYL have introduced a ridiculous status quo that requires reading 52 to have any clue as to what's going on. I've been trying to avoid IC, it's lead ins, and it's tie ins as much as possible, and I still find myself exhausted from it. As much as I like Firestorm, I don't really have the energy/desire to pick up any DC books anymore. I just wish there were a few books were during the one year period it was business as usual instead of some super-mega-ultra change due to IC.

Legends of the Dark Knight didn't jump OYL nor did JLA Classified. I'm not sure about JSA Classified, but there are 2 titles at least.

[Assassin]

nor did Blue Beetle

[Pksoze]

nor did Blue Beetle


You sure I thought the fight was OYL and the rest of the story was flashbacks.

[Assassin]

no, its directly after IC #6 when they defeat the brother eye..unless he falls a year ahead

[Fledermaus]

I think Blue Beetle #1 occurs right after The Omac Project Special.

[Pksoze]

no, its directly after IC #6 when they defeat the brother eye..unless he falls a year ahead


Oh well we'll see next issue I guess.

[Assassin]

he fell right afte rthe defeat of brother eye..he says so right there to guy

[Binker]

The FULL Perez and Lee covers to IC#6:

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/InfiniteCrisis/cover6/IC6_perez.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/InfiniteCrisis/cover6/IC6_lee.jpg

[sinewave]

^^brilliant!!!

[Pksoze]

Wow...I'm in a predicament on what to choose actually.

Superwoman from earth 3 is in Perez's cover.

Coool :)

[Shadowknight]

...Am I the only one that finds the Perez cover to be extremely... dirty?

[Binker]

I've been getting the Lee covers and I love that Superboy Prime cover. But the Perez is growing on me somewhat.

What are you guys getting?

[Pksoze]

I've been getting the Lee covers and I love that Superboy Prime cover. But the Perez is growing on me somewhat.

What are you guys getting?


I gotta see the covers live.

But I'll probably get Lee as I got the Perez cover last time.

[Binker]

I would like to make a request:

Could someone send me both covers (Perez & Lee) of the Infinite Crisis issues? They can be medium size to what those #6 covers size are. And no titles.

Please?

[TimDrake64x]

i duno to me its not even a choice, ive never liked perez's covers. lee all the way!

[Assassin]

Both like always

[Fantastic Fan22]

he fell right afte rthe defeat of brother eye..he says so right there to guy

he doesnt say he fell right after the fight. All Beetle says is that he helped defeat that eye thing.

[Assassin]

and he says he doesnt know how to use the suit..and it doesnt say 1YL on the cover, dont argue with me sucka

[Fantastic Fan22]

and he says he doesnt know how to use the suit..and it doesnt say 1YL on the cover, dont argue with me sucka

Im not saying its OYL just that it doesnt say he fell right after defeating brother eye

[Doomed_hero]

Wow I have been getting Lee, perez, lee perez, lee this whole series, but I love that Lee cover, so I may break the cycle.

[rnewbz]

I have Lee for all of the crisis issues except #1, because the comic store was sold out of Lee.

[Green Lantern]

Wow... I knew that the #6 we saw months ago couldn't have been Perez's full cover :D BUT... that Lee one is once again kick ass.... Probably the second time this series I will purchase both for the sake of having both. (First was #4)

[yenaled]

Perez's cover is so good, it makes me all happy with glee. Lee'ss cover is also awesome both artists have done great.

Still Perez for me... Ray is on the front :D

[The Leaguer]

I definitely prefer Lee's. Did anyone else notice that Superboy is drawn bald on Perez's cover?

[The Caped Knight]

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6647/ic6lee0jp.jpg

:eek: OMG .

[CConn]

I don't see what's so great about that cover. Apart from the dismantlement of the Trinity, it's not really that impressive.

Of course, I'll still buy it the minute it's released. :)

[Shadowknight]

Come on, there's a GL power battery too! No love for the GLs getting taken down?

[CConn]

What sounds better?

"the dismantlement of the Trinity" or "the dismantlement of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and a Green Lantern"?

Yeah, that's what I thought. :cool:

[Green Lantern]

How bout this "The dismantling of the Trinity, followed by defeating the universe's most powerful weapon."? Yeah, I win :cool:

[marcofthebeast]

The desamation of the earth's most beloved heroes and one of the champions of Oa, for they dared pissed in the captain crunch of the mighty superboy prime.

[Green Lantern]

Too over the top :o I still win :cool: You know why? Because. I win. :)

[marcofthebeast]

Too over the top :o

Is there such a thing?

[Green Lantern]

Yes, because I said so :o

[BrianWilly]

The epicness and scope of Perez's cover continue to amaze me.

But I'll probably get Lee's. I mean, that sht is just badassery to the umpteenth degree.
I definitely prefer Lee's. Did anyone else notice that Superboy is drawn bald on Perez's cover?I did too, and it gave me all sorts of barftastic sensations.

[The Ether]

I really like Lee's cover for #6, for some reason Perez's cover didn't impress me as much as his other ones.

[That-Guy]

Yeah, Perez's is a little lackluster, IMO. Not a bad piece of art, just not spectacular, really. But Lee really outdid himself with that cover. Simple and to the point, that's just a bold, kickass image. Can't wait until tomorrow.




It's still coming out tomorrow, isn't it?!!!!

[ToddIsDead]

I'm getting Lee's cover this month. It's awesome.

[RAMORE]

I have a question why does sprime have this new suit on? And why do they call him prime.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Yeah, Perez's is a little lackluster, IMO. Not a bad piece of art, just not spectacular, really. But Lee really outdid himself with that cover. Simple and to the point, that's just a bold, kickass image. Can't wait until tomorrow.




It's still coming out tomorrow, isn't it?!!!!

yes it is.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I have a question why does sprime have this new suit on? And why do they call him prime.Okay your very late.

[RAMORE]

Yes yes i am. Unfortunately i don't get comics too often anymore only on holidays (x-mas b-day) and i find out stuff from this board. So If anyone cares to indulge an old man i would appreciate it.

[RAMORE]

By the way tony m what is your avvy of?

[Ultimate_Superman]

All-Star Superman and Lois kissing on the moon.

[RAMORE]

Cool now about my question...

[ToddIsDead]

I have a question why does sprime have this new suit on? And why do they call him prime.
Superboy's new suit contains parts of the Anti-Monitor, the villian from Crisis on Infinite Earths. We don't know how he obtains it yet.

He is called Superboy Prime because he is the Superboy from Earth Prime, an alternate Earth that was taken out of existence during CoIE.

EDIT: If you haven't read Crisis on Infinite Earths, and the last two or three years of DC Comics, you might not understand everything that's happening in Infinite Crisis.

[RAMORE]

I get the gist of things i was just wondering. Now about the partial Anti Monitor armor is it powering him? what's the purpose? How powerfull is sprime? as much as our supes?

[ToddIsDead]

We haven't seen him in action with the new suit, but the Anti-Monitor was basically all powerful. They almost didn't even take him down. I think, with the armor, he's going to be a lot more powerful, even more so than Alex Luthor.

[TimDrake64x]

^ oh sheeite thats right, i bet hes gona be pissed at alex

[Fledermaus]

I get the gist of things i was just wondering. Now about the partial Anti Monitor armor is it powering him? what's the purpose? How powerfull is sprime? as much as our supes?

Alex gave Superboy Prime some of his own anti-matter powers. With them, Superboy P broke out of "paradise" and began to remake the universe at Alex's whim. In my opinion, right now (with a few exceptions) Superboy Prime is probably the most powerful person in the DCU.

[GoldenAgeHero]

btw how come clark nor bruce have'nt mentioned each other in the OYL books?

[Anubis]

Why should they mention each other?

[TimDrake64x]

seriously, i meen what is dc gona do, make bats and superman operate in different universes now. plus how many issues have superman and batman had out that r oyl? like 2 maybe?

[GoldenAgeHero]

Why should they mention each other?

oh i dont know... to see how each other are doing one year later, after the crisis.....

[Anubis]

And they're supposed to do...what? "Oh, I wonder how Clark is doing without his powers?" Oh well, Time to focus on not getting killed by Poison Ivy." :rolleyes:

I'm sorry for the eye roll. It's the most evil smiley ever, but it's the best way to point out the sarcasim.

[Fledermaus]

Back in the '90s, there was about a 5-8 year period where Batman had no interaction whatsoever with Superman, or any other hero for that matter. Bats appeared in Supermans books, but not vice-versa. I for one would be fine if the only "team-up" book was Superman/Batman. I also hear there is a new Brave and the Bold type book coming out.

[stillanerd]

Not that anyone is interested, but here are some spoilers for Infinite Crisis #6, which can be found (http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/thread.jspa?threadID=2000070191&start=0&tstart=0)here ,here (http://www.comicbloc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24059), and here (http://s15.invisionfree.com/Renegade_Comic_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1248&st=0)

Highlights include:
*Batman's team which includes Mr. Terrific, the new Blue Bettle, Booster Gold, Metamorpho, Hal Jordan, Jon Stewart, Green Arrow, and Sasha go after Brother Eye and face down the O.M.A.C.s
*Kal-L realizes the mistake he's made and agrees to team up with Superman of E1...and so does Wonder Woman, who has also implies that she has made mistakes (no doubt referring to her killing Maxwell Lord).
*More Earths appear, including Earth-S (Shazam's original homeworld), an all Western Earth (homeworld of Jonah Hex) and the Bizzaro world, pop into existance...and Alex Luthor starts colliding them together at random to "create a perfect Earth."
*At one point, Alex merges Earth-1, Earth-2, and Earth-3 together, and nearly makes Wonder Woman merge with Superwoman, Superman with Ultraman, and Kal-L with Alex's own father from Earth 3.
*The new Spectre passes judgment on Star Sapphire (I won't say how but it sounds awesome).
*Nightwing and Superboy team attack Alex's headquarters, and are joined by Wonder Girl.
*Psycho Pirate is killed by Black Adam.
*Superboy Prime returns. The Anti-Monitor armor he's wearing--it's not because he's merged with the Anti-Monitor. It's a power suit containing a self-sustaining yellow solar battery that he made in inspiration of the Anti-Monitor. Seems when the Flashes sent him through the Speed Force, he got sent back in time and dumped on a world with a Red Sun where he was imprisioned for years. He also makes Alex model the new Earth on his homeworld.
*And...it's official...Conner Kent does die, but not before hurling Superboy Prime into Alex's tower, causing an explosion that seemingly kills both SBP and Alex in the process. He dies in Wonder Girl's arms, mortally wounded after being impaled by the debris.
*There is now only one Earth.


Then again, just wait for tommorrow. :)

[GoldenAgeHero]

wounded by debris? weak, he doesnt even try to fight sbp! booooooooooo

[UK_Stu]

Not that anyone is interested, but here are some spoilers for Infinite Crisis #6, which can be found (http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/thread.jspa?threadID=2000070191&start=0&tstart=0)here ,here (http://www.comicbloc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24059), and here (http://s15.invisionfree.com/Renegade_Comic_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1248&st=0)

Highlights include:
*Batman's team which includes Mr. Terrific, the new Blue Bettle, Booster Gold, Metamorpho, Hal Jordan, Jon Stewart, Green Arrow, and Sasha go after Brother Eye and face down the O.M.A.C.s
*Kal-L realizes the mistake he's made and agrees to team up with Superman of E1...and so does Wonder Woman, who has also implies that she has made mistakes (no doubt referring to her killing Maxwell Lord).
*More Earths appear, including Earth-S (Shazam's original homeworld), an all Western Earth (homeworld of Jonah Hex) and the Bizzaro world, pop into existance...and Alex Luthor starts colliding them together at random to "create a perfect Earth."
*At one point, Alex merges Earth-1, Earth-2, and Earth-3 together, and nearly makes Wonder Woman merge with Superwoman, Superman with Ultraman, and Kal-L with Alex's own father from Earth 3.
*The new Spectre passes judgment on Star Sapphire (I won't say how but it sounds awesome).
*Nightwing and Superboy team attack Alex's headquarters, and are joined by Wonder Girl.
*Psycho Pirate is killed by Black Adam.
*Superboy Prime returns. The Anti-Monitor armor he's wearing--it's not because he's merged with the Anti-Monitor. It's a power suit containing a self-sustaining yellow solar battery that he made in inspiration of the Anti-Monitor. Seems when the Flashes sent him through the Speed Force, he got sent back in time and dumped on a world with a Red Sun where he was imprisioned for years. He also makes Alex model the new Earth on his homeworld.
*And...it's official...Conner Kent does die, but not before hurling Superboy Prime into Alex's tower, causing an explosion that seemingly kills both SBP and Alex in the process. He dies in Wonder Girl's arms, mortally wounded after being impaled by the debris.
*There is now only one Earth.


Then again, just wait for tommorrow. :)


OMG - I was weak I read the spoliers - but wow I will have to buy this!!!

[Lackey]

I'm sorry for the eye roll. It's the most evil smiley ever, but it's the best way to point out the sarcasim.


this one is even more evil... now that we don't have it as part of the boards, I save it for special occasions.

http://www.newsarama.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

[Anubis]

You're right, I saw it, and I hadn't even read your post yet, but I wanted to kill you.

[That-Guy]

btw how come clark nor bruce have'nt mentioned each other in the OYL books?


Oh, come on now. You know why. If this thing between them takes ahold of them at the wrong place... the wrong time... they're dead. :D

[XwolverineX]

I wonder if Superboy- P will go good at th' end. Or if he will die a sinner...

[deathshead2]

I wonder if Superboy- P will go good at th' end. Or if he will die a sinner...Does this remind anyone of the way superman died in death of superman.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Does this remind anyone of the way superman died in death of superman.Thats the point of the whole thing. Though I do wonder if during this whole 52 series was Superman working on Conner and we may see him return sooner then latter or what. I do think that would be the best way to do it instead of taking time out of the Superman comics to go through the whole thing all over again.

[deathshead2]

Thats the point of the whole thing. Though I do wonder if during this whole 52 series was Superman working on Conner and we may see him return sooner then latter or what. I do think that would be the best way to do it instead of taking time out of the Superman comics to go through the whole thing all over again.So does this mean we will start seeing a Steelboy,cyborgsuperboy and eradikator superboy?

[Ultimate_Superman]

no but maybe the new hero Supernova is Superboy and we wont know till later on down the line.

[deathshead2]

no but maybe the new hero Supernova is Superboy and we wont know till later on down the line.I think im missing something who is supernova?

[roach]

I think im missing something who is supernova?


It's a Chevy Nova with an \S/ on the hood

[lceman]

Superman is not the one trying to remake Superboy. ROBIN IS

[stillanerd]

wounded by debris? weak, he doesnt even try to fight sbp! booooooooooo

Well, to be fair, Connor DOES fight Superboy Prime, it's just that the end of the fight results in Connor throwing SBP into Alex's tower causing it to explode, thus saving the universe. Although, considering he's supposed to have nearly identical powers to Superman (being partly his clone, after all) he can die from being impaled by debris, much less impaled in the first place.)

[Assassin]

After i read issue #6, i'll be happy if they pull a barry allen and make his death mean something.

[lceman]

After i read issue #6, i'll be happy if they pull a barry allen and make his death mean something.

Read TT 34 and you will see that they are already starting his return.

[LadyVader]

Oh, somebody better scan this, quick! :)

[Tamanon]

From all the spoilers I've been reading up on, THIS sounds like how you handle a death. Makes me wonder what's in store for IC #7 still.

And I wonder if OMAC actually came out today, haven't found any spoilers for that yet.:)

[stillanerd]

Here's something else to consider: If Superboy Prime was kept prisoner on the planet with the Red Sun for years by the Flashes, that would mean Bart Allen, since he was there, would've grown up as well. Sounds like he'll become the new Flash if that's the case.

[lceman]

From all the spoilers I've been reading up on, THIS sounds like how you handle a death. Makes me wonder what's in store for IC #7 still.

And I wonder if OMAC actually came out today, haven't found any spoilers for that yet.:)

Omac did come out today. Picked it up but haven't read it yet.

[Assassin]

i havent read anything but IC#6

[GoldenAgeHero]

Here's something else to consider: If Superboy Prime was kept prisoner on the planet with the Red Sun for years by the Flashes, that would mean Bart Allen, since he was there, would've grown up as well. Sounds like he'll become the new Flash if that's the case.

well in titans tomorrow they said he became the flash after the crisis or was it during.. i dunno.

[Ultimate_Superman]

after

[Darthphere]

So guys, wasnt able to pick this up. Can someone give me as extensive a recap as possible. Ill pay you back with cookies.:(

[The Ether]

^^^^

oh s*** oh s*** oh s***

and that's all I can say for now:)

[The Sage]

My boy!!!!! :(

[BrianWilly]

That issue was pure. Awesome. Incarnate.

Very best exchange of forever:
Blue Beetle: "How can you all act like this is normal?"
Booster Gold: "It's not normal, Jaime. It's history. And we're here to make it."
Batman: "Booster. You have no idea how to talk to kids."

Gaaaaah I loved this. And Conner's last words...:(:(:O

[Darthphere]

That issue was pure. Awesome. Incarnate.

Very best exchange of forever:
Blue Beetle: "How can you all act like this is normal?"
Booster Gold: "It's not normal, Jaime. It's history. And we're here to make it."
Batman: "Booster. You have no idea how to talk to kids."

Gaaaaah I loved this. And Conner's last words...:(:(:O


I got cookies for those who give me a recap, filled with spoilers.:(

[Lackey]

I got cookies for those who give me a recap, filled with spoilers.:(


I want chocolate chip

Brother Eye is destroyed by Batman's team... disabling all the OMACs. Superman's and Wonder Woman's lives are in danger on Earth-2 when Alexander Luthor is about to merge it with his Earth, Earth-3, but Donna Troy's team intervene. Nightwing and Superboy, joined by Wonder Girl, free the people connected to the giant tuning fork that Alexander is using and they all attack Alexander and the Psycho Pirate. Black Adam brutally kills the Psycho Pirate (excellent scene). Superboy Prime shows up then, gets hit a few times by Black Adam but unphased, and punches Black Adam far enough away from the tower that he is transported to Earth-S with the other Marvels. Superboy Prime tells Alexander to bring Earth Prime back and then it's an all-out battle with Superboy Prime. Superboy and Superboy Prime go at it again and then Superboy runs him right into the tower making it explode and then collapsing all the earths into one New Earth. Alexander and Superboy Prime are nowhere to be found, Superboy lies there dying in Wonder Girl's arms having save the world.

It's missing some pieces but that's the main points of the story

[Lackey]

That issue was pure. Awesome. Incarnate.

Very best exchange of forever:
Blue Beetle: "How can you all act like this is normal?"
Booster Gold: "It's not normal, Jaime. It's history. And we're here to make it."
Batman: "Booster. You have no idea how to talk to kids."



I loved that...and Batman's exchange with Green Arrow. :D:up:

[Darthphere]

I want chocolate chip

Brother Eye is destroyed by Batman's team... disabling all the OMACs. Superman's and Wonder Woman's lives are in danger on Earth-2 when Alexander Luthor is about to merge it with his Earth, Earth-3, but Donna Troy's team intervene. Nightwing and Superboy, joined by Wonder Girl, free the people connected to the giant tuning fork that Alexander and they all attack Alexander and the Psycho Pirate. Black Adam brutally kills the Psycho Pirate (excellent scene). Superboy Prime shows up then, gets hit a few times by Black Adam but unphased, and punches Black Adam far enough away from the tower that he is transported to Earth-S with the other Marvels. Superboy Prime tells Alexander to bring Earth Prime back and then it's an all-out battle with Superboy Prime. Superboy and Superboy Prime go at it again and then Superboy runs him right into the tower making it explode and then collapsing all the earths into one New Earth. Alexander and Superboy Prime are nowhere to be found, Superboy lies there dying in Wonder Girl's arms having save the world.

It's missing some pieces but that's the main points of the story


You get all the chocolate chip you want.:up:

[Fledermaus]

Oh, somebody better scan this, quick! :)

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/Sam655321/Robincave.jpg

[sinewave]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/InfiniteCrisis/cover6/IC6_lee.jpg

notice how the fabric with the superman symbol in the background has a red tint to it in this picture?

it's black on the real cover.

[Tamanon]

Hrm....wonder why he's not using Superboy's DNA itself to make the clone instead of Luthor/Superman.....and it does seem really weird that Robin would try and do this....I wonder if the whole Superboy thing will be related to the pact he makes with Ra'as Al Ghul that's mentioned briefly in Titans Tomorrow

[BrianWilly]

I actually regret getting that cover a bit. I mean, it ended up being really misleading, didn't it? Superboy Prime didn't fight Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, or Green Lantern.

[The Ether]

notice how the fabric with the superman symbol in the background has a red tint to it in this picture?

it's black on the real cover.It's supposed to be superboys shirt, a little homage to a the death of superman:)

[sinewave]

It's supposed to be superboys shirt, a little homage to a the death of superman:)

yup. i just find it funny that they released the picture with a different color in there to throw us off.

[BrianWilly]

Is it actually Superboy's shirt? Superboy's shirt doesn't have any yellow on it at all and is inlaid with black. I think that's Superman's cape.

[sinewave]

it's black and red on the real cover. just like conner's shirt.

[BrianWilly]

...I'm so stupid. And that's the cover I have too, duh.

[Lackey]

Also...this hasn't been mentioned but anybody catch Swamp Thing's cameo?

[XP NACHOS]

Wow this certainly has been a good story so far. IC has had a lot of body separations too. In this issue alone we have Alex losing a finger, and it looks like Superboy lost his right eye, right hand, and going by proportionate lenght, his left foot.

[BlackOpsTengu]

Hopefully Superman and Wonder Woman will get their chance to shine next issue.

[Pksoze]

Anybody catch the part where Alex Luthor is looking for earth prime and then faces the reader.

And then his hands stick out like a 3D effect.

I thought that was cool.

[Binker]

With #7, that has to be showcasing the end of IC, the big three and what they went through, and the start of 52.

[deathshead2]

Great issue best IC issue ever. Poor superboy :( I bet wondergirl will have his baby or something and it will be a storyarc in TT.

[Fledermaus]

Anybody catch the part where Alex Luthor is looking for earth prime and then faces the reader.

And then his hands stick out like a 3D effect.

I thought that was cool.



I noticed that. I remember somebody on the board mentioning DC "breaking the fourth wall". That might have been it.

[WeeZiTe]

what was superboy's last words?

[BrianWilly]

Anybody catch the part where Alex Luthor is looking for earth prime and then faces the reader.

And then his hands stick out like a 3D effect.

I thought that was cool.

Great sacred poopsauce, I didn't even notice that.

[drastic_quench]

Also...this hasn't been mentioned but anybody catch Swamp Thing's cameo?

His hand at Stonehenge? Yeah.

what was superboy's last words?
"Isn't it cool?"

So 90's, right to the very end.

[TimDrake64x]

lol, ya i thought the same thing, but it fit and i love it

[The Ether]

Anybody catch the part where Alex Luthor is looking for earth prime and then faces the reader.

And then his hands stick out like a 3D effect.

I thought that was cool.


That was nice, didn't notice it.

[The Ether]

Also...this hasn't been mentioned but anybody catch Swamp Thing's cameo?
yep, I was dissappointed that they didn't show Constantine though.

[Mister J]

I think this was the best IC yet. Tons of action in this one. Superboy really stepped up. The exchanges between him and SBP were standout. I never had much appreciation or interest in the character until the Crisis started to take shape. Now I find myself hoping that they bring hiim back somehow.

IC#7 s gonna be out of control.

[sinewave]

i loved this little reparte between green arrow and batman as the team batman chose approaches their battle with brother eye and some omacs in space:

ga: hey, dark knight, what about me? why the hell'd you call a guy who can shoot trick arrows?

bm: just to see if you'd show.

ga: brave and the bold, huh? you got me all misty. *smirk*

[deathshead2]

i loved this little reparte between green arrow and batman as the team batman chose approaches their battle with brother eye and some omacs:

ga: hey, dark knight, what about me? why the hell'd you call a guy who can shoot trick arrows?

bm: just to see if you'd show.

ga: brave and the bold, huh? you got me all misty. *smirk*One small step as bats gets closer to the one year later version the bats thats no longer an ass.:up:

[Mister J]

One small step as bats gets closer to the one year later version the bats thats no longer an ass.:up:

A most welcomed change.

[deathshead2]

A most welcomed change.Yeah did you read that issue that showed bats talk to robin in a positve way. I was shocked.

[sinewave]

Yeah did you read that issue that showed bats talk to robin in a positve way. I was shocked.

yeah, he was actually... polite! :eek:

[Jono87]

jeez, what a great issue. The thing that I want to know more about though, is what the heck is up between the GLs and Blue Beatle.

BTW, since no one has posted, the OMAC special is about what happens after Brother Eye crashes after being taken out by Bats and Co. The main plot of the issue is how Sasha ends up destroying what remains of BI before Russia, China, or Israel get to it. IMO not as significant to the main IC story as the Rann-Thanagar and DOV specials were. Regardless however, Sasha ends up destroying the remnants, and losing her nanobot "skin" in the process.

[Mister J]

Yeah did you read that issue that showed bats talk to robin in a positve way. I was shocked.
yeah, he was actually... polite!

It threw me for a loop. His interaction with Robin and the other heroes, not to mention the actual stories, has been great. Again, most welcomed.

[BlackOpsTengu]

Just curious as to what our Superman has done so far during the Crisis.

He beat up Mongol,
Duked it out with E-2 Superman...
And?

For something focusing on the big three, it seems like Supes has gotten the short end of the stick so far. Batman helped mopped the floor with Brother Eye and the OMACs, Wonder Woman too with her Amazon comrades. Granted, he's probably the only person who could take on E-2, and E-2 DID want to help obliterate the universe for a while... but I hope our Superman gets to do something awe inspiring in #7 that puts him back into the status as the THE HERO of the DCU before he fades for a time.

[Mister J]

I'm hoping all Trinity members get a big story in #7. With all 3 of them standing over Conner's body at the end, and it wrapping up a kickass arc, I think we'll get something really good.

[Pksoze]

Just curious as to what our Superman has done so far during the Crisis.

He beat up Mongol,
Duked it out with E-2 Superman...
And?

For something focusing on the big three, it seems like Supes has gotten the short end of the stick so far. Batman helped mopped the floor with Brother Eye and the OMACs, Wonder Woman too with her Amazon comrades. Granted, he's probably the only person who could take on E-2, and E-2 DID want to help obliterate the universe for a while... but I hope our Superman gets to do something awe inspiring in #7 that puts him back into the status as the THE HERO of the DCU before he fades for a time.


Yeah Superman needs to step up big time.

This is sort of the Superman II vibe though. With Superman having a big moment in issue 7.



President: [on T.V] This is your President. On behalf of my country and in the name of the other leaders of the world with whom I have today consulted, I hereby abdicate all authority and control over this planet to Alexander Luthor & Superboy Prime. Only by following all their directives will the lives of billions be spared...
[desperately]
President: Superman! Can you hear me? Superman! Where are you...
Superboy Prime: Who is this Superman?
President: You'll find out and when you do-...
Superboy Prime: Come to me, Superman! If you dare.I defy you! Come and kneel before Prime! Prime

[Human Spidey]

I'm geting IC #6 and Teen Titans #34 later today, i can't wait. It sounds great.

[Jono87]

Yeah Superman needs to step up big time.

This is sort of the Superman II vibe though. With Superman having a big moment in issue 7.



President: [on T.V] This is your President. On behalf of my country and in the name of the other leaders of the world with whom I have today consulted, I hereby abdicate all authority and control over this planet to Alexander Luthor & Superboy Prime. Only by following all their directives will the lives of billions be spared...
[desperately]
President: Superman! Can you hear me? Superman! Where are you...
Superboy Prime: Who is this Superman?
President: You'll find out and when you do-...
Superboy Prime: Come to me, Superman! If you dare.I defy you! Come and kneel before Prime! Prime

LOL

[BrianWilly]

Heh, check this out...I read this on another board:

"The first two worlds [Alex Luthor] combined were Earth-154 and Earth-462. He didn't like the result and destroyed it.

154 + 462 = 616."

Johns, you cad:thing:.

[Mister J]

Heh, check this out...I read this on another board:

"The first two worlds [Alex Luthor] combined were Earth-154 and Earth-462. He didn't like the result and destroyed it.

154 + 462 = 616."

Johns, you cad:thing:.
That's pretty funny.

[Green Lantern]

Thats great :D So who's a bigger threat than Galactus to the Marvel Universe? Alex Luthor :D

[UK_Stu]

I think the Interesting question here, and no one has asked it yet is what Kind of Earth are we left with?

No doubt, the merged Earths will have wiped out somethings and added others, #7 should be all about coming to terms with the new Earth, plus it now seems everyone will be aware of multiple earths(and multiple characters) unlike after COIE.

[XFanTim]

So is that the end result of Infinite Crisis, then? Multiverse still gone, but now everyone remembers it and all the rest of the pre-crisis history?

[The Ether]

Heh, check this out...I read this on another board:

"The first two worlds [Alex Luthor] combined were Earth-154 and Earth-462. He didn't like the result and destroyed it.

154 + 462 = 616."

Johns, you cad:thing:.

hehehe, nice one Johns.:up:

[That-Guy]

Damn, that 616 thing was clever. Didn't catch that at all. Also, something about Alex's "Earth Prime, where are you?" scene stuck out to me, but I couldn't figure out what it was until it was stated here a few pages ago. He was talking to US. THAT was cool.

My favorite scene in all of this had to by Psycho Pirate's death. Classic. I loved that exchange afterward. "Was that necessary?" "Absolutely." Pure badass. Black Adam hasn't always been one of my favorites, but this book just upped him in coolness and badassery a LOT. Connor's death was very well done and very touching... I particularly liked the moment where he said that he's the real Superboy and he just forgot for a while. Also, Hal Jordan was great in this issue. I loved how he was thinking about baseball while they were going to confront the OMACs. Classic.

Some problems though... is anyone else a little disappointed by Kyle's lack of involvement out in space? After the Rann/Than special, I was expecting him and his team to do something HUGE... but so far, all we've got is Firestorm saving the Supermen and Wonder Woman. Another thing... now we have a "new earth" that is just all of the earths merged together. Um... isn't that what happened at the end of COIE? This thing is going to feel pretty pointless to me if the whole purpose of IC was to split the earth into a zillion different other ones, just to reform it in the end and somehow by accident, everything was fixed. I don't understand why that would fix anything.

[KAD]

Damn, that 616 thing was clever. Didn't catch that at all. Also, something about Alex's "Earth Prime, where are you?" scene stuck out to me, but I couldn't figure out what it was until it was stated here a few pages ago. He was talking to US. THAT was cool.

My favorite scene in all of this had to by Psycho Pirate's death. Classic. I loved that exchange afterward. "Was that necessary?" "Absolutely." Pure badass. Black Adam hasn't always been one of my favorites, but this book just upped him in coolness and badassery a LOT. Connor's death was very well done and very touching... I particularly liked the moment where he said that he's the real Superboy and he just forgot for a while. Also, Hal Jordan was great in this issue. I loved how he was thinking about baseball while they were going to confront the OMACs. Classic.

Some problems though... is anyone else a little disappointed by Kyle's lack of involvement out in space? After the Rann/Than special, I was expecting him and his team to do something HUGE... but so far, all we've got is Firestorm saving the Supermen and Wonder Woman. Another thing... now we have a "new earth" that is just all of the earths merged together. Um... isn't that what happened at the end of COIE? This thing is going to feel pretty pointless to me if the whole purpose of IC was to split the earth into a zillion different other ones, just to reform it in the end and somehow by accident, everything was fixed. I don't understand why that would fix anything.

Not sure of the final composition or fate of the Multiverse, but we still haven't seen the return of the characters that were transported to their original Earth's.

[roach]

a few questions....
1) Was I the only one pissed when Superman arrived on the scene after the fight between the Superboys???? Oh now you show up!!!!
2) Did Superboy Prime(sounds like a Transformer) die too

[Mee]

a few questions....
1) Was I the only one pissed when Superman arrived on the scene after the fight between the Superboys???? Oh now you show up!!!!
2) Did Superboy Prime(sounds like a Transformer) die too
No Superboy Prime is alive. Next issue is suposed to be everyone vs. him.

[KAD]

a few questions....
1) Was I the only one pissed when Superman arrived on the scene after the fight between the Superboys???? Oh now you show up!!!!
2) Did Superboy Prime(sounds like a Transformer) die too

1) Not so much pissed at SM but upset with how quickly SB's death cameabout (Very glad they are thinking of cloning him again. I wonder if this is the begining of the Titans Tomorrow storyline.)

2. Unknown

[lceman]

Some problems though... is anyone else a little disappointed by Kyle's lack of involvement out in space? After the Rann/Than special, I was expecting him and his team to do something HUGE... but so far, all we've got is Firestorm saving the Supermen and Wonder Woman.

I am very disappointed in the lack of involvement of Ion. This was one of the things I was looking forward to. I am a huge Kyle fan and was hoping that he would have some major involvement in IC that would raise his status. Maybe in IC 7 he has something. If not Ion #1 comes out in a few weeks.

[That-Guy]

I am very disappointed in the lack of involvement of Ion. This was one of the things I was looking forward to. I am a huge Kyle fan and was hoping that he would have some major involvement in IC that would raise his status. Maybe in IC 7 he has something. If not Ion #1 comes out in a few weeks.


Yeah, it's almost like they forgot about him or made a plot change at the last minute. It's like, "Okay everyone, Kyle's leading attack because he's all powerful! Continued in IC # 5! Oh wait, not really! Okay, we'll give him a token cameo in #6 and let him do absolutely nothing!"

[Mee]

1) Not so much pissed at SM but upset with how quickly SB's death cameabout (Very glad they are thinking of cloning him again. I wonder if this is the begining of the Titans Tomorrow storyline.)

2. Unknown
In #6 the description for #7 is: "It all comes down to a showdown with Superboy Prime, who will survive?" I'm guessing they're not fighting a corpse.

[KAD]

Anyone else notice the words "TOUCHDOWN"

If you did please refer to my last post

[Doc Destruction]

I cannot wait to see what happens in 7...when all the Earths snapped back together like a big rubber band, I thought to myself "well, there's the option to change any and every continuity flub over the past few years". Brilliant.

And the 616 thing is AWESOME. VERY clever.

[KAD]

Touchdown anyone?

[KAD]

The word the future SB/SM said evrytime he used his TK.

Also he mentioned being able to take Capt Marvel/ex JR's strongest blows repeatedly without flinching because of his TK.

How did the future Conner get so powerful. I bet Batman/Robin knew.

Also how could WG/WW and the new SB/SM ever turn to Luthor as a father figure. This never sat well with me. But if Luthor helped to reclone Conner this might instill a bit of loyalty in Cassie and Conner.

[lceman]

Touchdown anyone?
You just made a whole new thread about this. Why make a thread it all you are going to do it ask the same people about it in the main thread?

[KAD]

You just made a whole new thread about this. Why make a thread it all you are going to do it ask the same people about it in the main thread?

A. I made a thread because I feel it is important enough to merit it.

B. I'm hoping there are other posters that get the connection

C. Is it a problem for you?

[lceman]

A. I made a thread because I feel it is important enough to merit it.

B. I'm hoping there are other posters that get the connection

C. Is it a problem for you?

It just makes it more difficult to follow a discussion when the same discussion are in several threads by the same people. The same people that will be posting in the new thread are in the Main IC thread. I don't think that I am alone in feeling that we should try and not create too many threads that discuss the same thing.

[UK_Stu]

Titans Tomorrow is only a possible future, its not set in stone. I don't think we should be trying to connect things happening now to a possible future. Sure there are some teasers (touchdown), but it really doesn't mean all that, when anything can still change the future.

[Green Lantern]

Ya know, going into this whole thing, the running joke was about how Flash's and Crisis's don't mix... how bout the Superfamily? COIE 7 had the real Supergirl die, and IC 6 has Superboy croak... I'd say they don't mix with Crisis's either...

[lceman]

With Superboy Prime saying that the Flash's were keeping him with red sunlight for years makes me really think that the new Flash will be Bart. If SBP was held for years Bart can come back a few years older and even stronger.

[That-Guy]

Maybe the title "Touchdown" was just a reference to Alexander Luthor finally finding the "perfect" earth and then picking it up and spiking it. :D


Seriously... one other thing isn't sitting right with me here regarding SBP and his Anti-Monitor-style armor. How is it that this dumb kid who doesn't even know the meaning of the word "hypocrite" built a suit that somehow can sustain sunlight and increase his power?

[sinewave]

With Superboy Prime saying that the Flash's were keeping him with red sunlight for years makes me really think that the new Flash will be Bart. If SBP was held for years Bart can come back a few years older and even stronger.

That would be cool. Does anyone know where there's a red sun?

[Darthphere]

That would be cool. Does anyone know where there's a red sun?


The solar systemn Krypton was in.:confused:

[Fledermaus]

I'm going to post this in this thread too. Cause you guys are giving KAD a hard time, and he might be on to something.
From "Titans of Tomorrow"
Robin: "What did it, Conner?, What changed you?"
"future" Superboy: "What changed me? You did."

And now Tim is trying to re-clone Conner.
Now, nothing in comics is a coincidence, so this is a BIG piece of forshadowing if you caught it.

[roach]

That would be cool. Does anyone know where there's a red sun?


wouldnt it be cool if they left him on a planetoid which was the remains of Krypton

[sinewave]

wouldnt it be cool if they left him on a planetoid which was the remains of Krypton

yeah, that'd be interesting.

[That-Guy]

So, was I the only one who had a problem with SBP creating his new armor?

[Lackey]

So, was I the only one who had a problem with SBP creating his new armor?


why? he said he was trapped by the Flash's for years. You don't think he would eventually find a way out after years of imprisonment?

[XFanTim]

why? he said he was trapped by the Flash's for years. You don't think he would eventually find a way out after years of imprisonment?
If he has the knowledge of a typical teenager, he wouldn't be able to build an Anti-Monitor suit even if you gave him a hundred years. (Or did Superboy Prime have some sort of super-intelligence power I don't know about?)

Other questions: How the heck did the Flash's get him to a planet with a red sun? They can teleport between worlds now? I thought they were just taking him into the speed force.

Also, where was Barry this issue?

[roach]

If he has the knowledge of a typical teenager, he wouldn't be able to build an Anti-Monitor suit even if you gave him a hundred years. (Or did Superboy Prime have some sort of super-intelligence power I don't know about?)

Other questions: How the heck did the Flash's get him to a planet with a red sun? They can teleport between worlds now? I thought they were just taking him into the speed force.

Also, where was Barry this issue?


Doesnt he have the same powers as Superman????
Doesnt Superman have super-intellect or was that retconned?????

[Super_Ludacris]

I havent even read the whole series yet but I was just wondering have a comphensive lists of the issues to get that tie in to the Infite Crisis story arc?

Like obviously I know there's the actual Infinte Crisis miniseries and the 4 stories before it (Ran-Thangarr, Omac Project, Day of Vengance etc) but then I know they are assorted Infinite Crisis ties in from other DC titles and the One Year Later storylines that are in different issues. Does anyone have like a list or like a comprehensive list of issues to get for the whole Crisis storyline or is it just like too big?

[LadyVader]

Well i just read it and obviously my favourite part was Superboy's sacrifice specifically because it was handled very well in my opinion. It showed that in the short time he has been alive, Conner has managed to find friends, find a family, fall in love, be human. And it's in that humanity that he found the strength to defeat Superboy Prime although I really don't get how the explosion managed to kill the guy! :(

[Sentry2005]

doesn't anyone read the solicits in the back of the book?

Infinite Crisis #7: It all comes down to a showdown with Superboy Prime. Who will survive?!

so, uh, yeah... Superboy Prime ain't dead... and Conner died for no reason :(

[marcofthebeast]

Conner didn't die for "no reason" He took out that giant anti-matter fueled multiple earth creating machine. To say he died in vain is ridiculous

[Lackey]

Well i just read it and obviously my favourite part was Superboy's sacrifice specifically because it was handled very well in my opinion. It showed that in the short time he has been alive, Conner has managed to find friends, find a family, fall in love, be human. And it's in that humanity that he found the strength to defeat Superboy Prime although I really don't get how the explosion managed to kill the guy! :(


It wasn't just the explosion...SBP gave him quite the beating again, a beating that almost killed him the first time when SBP claims he wasn't even trying then.

[Silicon Surfer]

First all the PC kryptonians had super inteligence. Second Superboy Prime in PC universe wasn't affected by red sun energy. He didn't have that weakness.

[Lackey]

If he has the knowledge of a typical teenager, he wouldn't be able to build an Anti-Monitor suit even if you gave him a hundred years. (Or did Superboy Prime have some sort of super-intelligence power I don't know about?)


It wasn't an anti-monitor suit, it just looked like it. It was a suit that fed him solar energy. We don't know how many years he was trapped, but if that was your only goal, it's not implausible that you'd figure it out eventually.


as for the red planet, I'm guessing this is a sort of pocket universe similar to the place Alexander Luthor created at the end of COIE that can be manipulated by the Flashes.

[That-Guy]

While I'm not sure that Post-Crisis Superman has enhanced intellect ("Super-mathematics!"), he certainly is intelligent... Regardless of whether you liked Azzarello's "For Tomorrow" arc or not, it shows that Superman is very intelligent and capable of building robots, weapons, etc.

As for Superboy Prime... as I stated before, he told Conner he didn't know what a hypocrite was... he might have just been being a smartass, but I'm betting the little idiot was telling the truth. Somehow I don't think someone who didn't even know the meaning of a very common word in the English language would know how to HARNESS THE POWER OF THE SUN AND USE IT AS FUEL.

[Lackey]

First all the PC kryptonians had super inteligence. Second Superboy Prime in PC universe wasn't affected by red sun energy. He didn't have that weakness.


Alexander Luthor did say that SBP had fundamentally changed and that's why he wasn't being transported to his earth like Black Adam had been transported to his.

[Lackey]

As for Superboy Prime... as I stated before, he told Conner he didn't know what a hypocrite was... he might have just been being a smartass, but I'm betting the little idiot was telling the truth.


I think it's more along the lines of "I don't know the meaning of the word FEAR"

[Sentry2005]

Conner didn't die for "no reason" He took out that giant anti-matter fueled multiple earth creating machine. To say he died in vain is ridiculous

i'm wasting my 1000th post on this, but ho hum Conner took out the tower by throwing Superboy Prime into it... er, any super strong person could do that... Power Girl... the Supermen that were about to arrive... heck, Black Adam if he'd thought about it... he died doing something another character could do... i just wanted him to take out that stupid brat Superboy Prime :mad: then no one could argue that Conner was rubbish... ok they could, but they'd have been double dutch wrong

[marcofthebeast]

i'm wasting my 1000th post on this, but ho hum Conner took out the tower by throwing Superboy Prime into it... er, any super strong person could do that... Power Girl... the Supermen that were about to arrive... heck, Black Adam if he'd thought about it... he died doing something another character could do... i just wanted him to take out that stupid brat Superboy Prime :mad: then no one could argue that Conner was rubbish... ok they could, but they'd have been double dutch wrong

True a few other characters could have the strength to do that, but they didn't. If any one else had done it wouldn't have as much of an effect. Imagine if Black Adam did sacrifice himself to stop that tower. Would you think it would have as an emotional effect that it did as Superboy?

[The Red Skull]

It's Superman's reaction I'm most interested in. For most of Connor's brief life he'd kept his distance, and, as soon as he's let him into his family (which you might argue has become 'complete' with the re-introduction of Kara) and started bonding with the kid BAM! Kon-el gets "Washed" out. And, since he hasn't been aware of Supergirl's sacrifice since the end of the original Crisis, we just might be able to see some of the character development we've been waiting for since CoIE.

Not that I'm looking for a depressing read in the Supes books, but it should lend itself to some decent stories. Somewhere down the line.

Oh, and a cookie for those of you who get the reference in the first paragraph.

[BatmanReborn]

ya know, this is driving me nuts. I live in Northern NJ and we still did not get any copies in at either of the two comic shops in my area. Im getting really sick of screwed up release dates. When did the new one come out for you guys?
oh, please check out my signatures, im desperate for help

[gildea]

I loved that dick was standing amongst the trinity on the final page

[amazingfantasy15]

Well, you could almost say Dick, Conner and Cassie are/were the new trinity, the younger versions of the trinity, the one that trusts each other and hasn't let things break them apart. Basically what Alex was looking for.

[Kenda Man]

I enjoyed Black adam's accomplishment in Issue 6 and I like Super Boy Prime as a villian or I guess a misguided teen, but I think Johns wrote him for having tantrums because he was not fully mature yet and to be an excuse to have a Superman character as a villian.



Somewhat a spoiler-


The brief glimpses of the other universes involved in activities was an awesome touch.

P.s. BAtman Reborn, my comic book shop in mid section of New Jersey just put IC#6 on the shelf today.

[BrianWilly]

i'm wasting my 1000th post on this, but ho hum Conner took out the tower by throwing Superboy Prime into it... er, any super strong person could do that... Power Girl... the Supermen that were about to arrive... heck, Black Adam if he'd thought about it... he died doing something another character could do... i just wanted him to take out that stupid brat Superboy Prime :mad: then no one could argue that Conner was rubbish... ok they could, but they'd have been double dutch wrong There was no time for anyone else to do anything. Not only could their entire Earth-1 explode at any moment because of the instability of the multiverse, Alex Luthor was just about to pull out Earth Prime and change everything. Conner was at the right place at the right time because he chose to be there and he chose to do what was needed with powers only he had -- his TK was the only thing that could destroy the tower fast enough -- sacrificing himself in the process.

[Green Lantern]

That would be cool. Does anyone know where there's a red sun?I had thought it wasn't where, but when... in about 5,000,000,000 years OUR sun will be a red sun... so the Flash's could have just taken him very far into the future.

[TimDrake64x]

speaking of the flashes. in oyl teen titans robin says something about bart being "kind of retired". what do u all think is goin on with flash. do u sppose he aged while keeping sbp pn that planet and will now be the new flash

[Green Lantern]

Well according to the preview pages, the Speed Force is "gone" still which may explain Bart's "retirement." He has no powers to stay in the game.

[Spectre722]

i'm glad connor went out as a hero, saving the universe. but he's been one of my favorite characters, along with the rest of young justice. now we're down to just robin and wondergirl.

[Green Lantern]

You know, Conner is probably the main reason I got hooked on comics... I started reading with the Death of Superman, but I doubt I would have continued if not for a certain character making his first appearance in Adventures of Superman 500. He was the only one of the four "Supermen" that I really enjoyed, and I could relate to him being close in age to him and all... When he graduated to his own title I read it until around issue 40, before nearly dropping all comics (GL and Titans were the only two I kept). I've since gone back and collected the rest. RIP Conner.

[MaskedManJRK]

Read it yesterday, and it is indeed kickass-in-a-can.

Conner went out with a bang, I'll tell ya that. The only thing that would have made it better was if Conner ripped off the \S/ off of Prime's chest, telling him that he doesn't deserve to wear it.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Read it yesterday, and it is indeed kickass-in-a-can.

Conner went out with a bang, I'll tell ya that. The only thing that would have made it better was if Conner ripped off the \S/ off of Prime's chest, telling him that he doesn't deserve to wear it.

too bad sbp is still alive:up:

[GoldenAgeHero]

Well according to the preview pages, the Speed Force is "gone" still which may explain Bart's "retirement." He has no powers to stay in the game.

or he never returned from where he went to in IC4.

[Trigger]

too bad sbp is still alive:up:

He is? I though he died in all that chaos after Conner sacrificed himself.:confused:

[deathshead2]

He is? I though he died in all that chaos after Conner sacrificed himself.:confused:I think so he supposed to fight supes WW and bats in the next ish I think?

[XFanTim]

I'm pretty sure Conner's sacrifice destroyed only Alex's machine, not Superboy Prime.

[BrianWilly]

That might be so. But on the other hand, I wouldn't be so quick to trust the solicits, as they've been wrong for IC before. For example, the magicians of the DCU turning to the Spectre for help was solicited for #4, two whole issues before this one. It's certainly possible that the solicit for #7 is off, as well.

[Trigger]

Hmmm, isn't the Joker supposed to be involved in the next issue? I thought I read somewhere that he'd be more involved in issue 7.

[XFanTim]

Yeah, but at this point if it happens in IC at all, it's happening next issue. So unless they've just started making stuff up . . .

[BrianWilly]

It's possible, though not blatantly likely, that the showdown with Superboy-Prime that they were announcing in that solicit was actually referring to the fight in this issue. Mistakes like that are made more often than you'd expect, actually; I remember that, in the solicits at the back of Wonder Woman books last year, it was like rocket science trying to figure out what the hell OMACS were going to happen in which issue 'cause events they'd annouce would be off by weeks and months.

To be honest, I want there to be a big fight next issue and not just all talk and somberness. So I actually hope that I'm a least a little wrong:O.