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Kane
05-01-2006, 04:46 PM
Ya Im sure he meant The New Batman Adventures.. it was an error on Didios part but he was refering to it being inspired from some animated version.

The BatDude
05-01-2006, 06:21 PM
Huntress is in Checkmate?
is this mentioned in the new Checkmate series. i have it, just haven't gotten to it yet.
and WTF is JLI?
JLI = Justice League International

The Caped Knight
05-01-2006, 06:34 PM
I WANT WALLY WEST BACK ... AS THE FLASH DAMNIT . :mad:

Calendar Man
05-01-2006, 08:44 PM
Why is The Penguin in Arkham? He's not insane. He goes to Blackgate.

Binker
05-01-2006, 08:48 PM
Where is the proof/source where it says Birthright will be repalced? Also, any idea on who, what, & when on the new origin story?

ToddIsDead
05-01-2006, 08:51 PM
It's all from Dan Didio's mouth. Apparrently from a panel at Toronto Coic-Con I think.

Binker
05-01-2006, 09:05 PM
Diana has to be Wonder Woman. From those two covers, she has to be. I believe he said that to throw people off. You people agree?

Assassin
05-01-2006, 09:14 PM
that robin thing i've been saying since the first pic came out

ToddIsDead
05-01-2006, 09:17 PM
We all have...

It's blatantly obvious.

Assassin
05-01-2006, 10:05 PM
lol you'd be suprised to hear about all the ppl that said i was wrong lol

Darthphere
05-01-2006, 10:13 PM
I dont see why theres hate on Elseworlds now?

Binker
05-01-2006, 10:32 PM
Correction: I checked IGN's weekly gallery of whats gonna be released this week. IC#7 is gonna come out. The finale is a day away.

The BatDude
05-01-2006, 10:38 PM
yeah IC #7 comes out May 3

Assassin
05-01-2006, 10:44 PM
I'm still torn on which cover I'm going to get.

get both

The Ether
05-01-2006, 10:47 PM
Yeah, I might have to get both also for the first time

Speedball
05-01-2006, 11:05 PM
I'm getting the Jim Lee one, i've got all of the covers drawn by him.
Green Lantern(Hal Jordarn) is my Favorite superhero, and this cover is a must for me.

Pksoze
05-01-2006, 11:06 PM
I made Jim Lee's my wallpaper so I'll buy the Perez version.

TheCorpulent1
05-01-2006, 11:19 PM
That's a good idea. I should make Perez's my wallpaper, and then buy the Perez cover as well. :up:

Assassin
05-01-2006, 11:24 PM
i'm getting both, like always.

why? becaue i have 2 jobs and i deserve to spend some extra cash on my self instead of gas to drive to school

Assassin
05-01-2006, 11:24 PM
****ing gas

Gambits' Ace
05-02-2006, 07:26 AM
Definately picking up the GL cover, lee's covers have been kick ass all through IC and he hasn't disappointed me again

The_Mystery
05-02-2006, 09:00 AM
George Perez is THE BEST superhero artist in the biz. Period. Jim Lee and Phil Jimenez both stand in his shadow.

Guyverjay
05-02-2006, 09:14 AM
That's a good idea. I should make Perez's my wallpaper, and then buy the Perez cover as well. :up:

Bleh... Lee's is better:o

TheCorpulent1
05-02-2006, 09:16 AM
Not to me. :p

Guyverjay
05-02-2006, 09:18 AM
You should get the cataracts sorted out:p

TheCorpulent1
05-02-2006, 09:21 AM
If they give me a greater appreciation for classic art over flash, I'll keep them. :)

ToddIsDead
05-02-2006, 09:32 AM
I'm leaning more towards the Perez cover now. I may end up getting both though.

The_Mystery
05-02-2006, 09:50 AM
I like Jim Lee, but even he has admitted to being a "disciple" of Perez's. The problem (and it's a small one) with Lee, as well as Phil Jimenez, is that their artwork isn't as fluid and graceful as George Perez's. They have the detail down pat though.

Green Lantern
05-02-2006, 09:58 AM
You should get the cataracts sorted out:pPerhaps we like our Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent to have facial differences other than the glasses :o

The Ether
05-02-2006, 10:47 AM
Too save money I'll just do a coin toss to pick which cover to buy,

TheCorpulent1
05-02-2006, 12:05 PM
Perhaps we like our Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent to have facial differences other than the glasses :o
Perez is great with faces. The only one of his faces I don't like too much is his Thor. The button nose just isn't what comes to my mind when I think of a badass storm deity.

Fledermaus
05-02-2006, 01:09 PM
That's exactly what I though when I saw the cover for JLA/Avengers 1
"What the f**k is wrong with Thor's nose?"

The_Mystery
05-02-2006, 02:07 PM
That's exactly what I though when I saw the cover for JLA/Avengers 1
"What the f**k is wrong with Thor's nose?"

S'funny, thats my only complaint about Perez. Although he nailed Thor with the "Ultron, We would have words with thee" panel from the Ultron Unlimited storyline.

BlackOpsTengu
05-02-2006, 03:45 PM
Ha ha, the idiot fanboys on the DC forums are having rage tantrums on the spoiler reports. That means it must be good! :D

raybia
05-02-2006, 03:51 PM
Superboy had to die. His very existence was problematic. He just didn't have a future in the DC Universe but he died being what he was created to be: a hero.

Next of the list: Wonder Girl.

sinewave
05-02-2006, 04:07 PM
Ha ha, the idiot fanboys on the DC forums are having rage tantrums on the spoiler reports. That means it must be good! :D

gah? :confused:

Pksoze
05-02-2006, 04:12 PM
Ha ha, the idiot fanboys on the DC forums are having rage tantrums on the spoiler reports. That means it must be good! :D

Usually, those guys are big crybabies there. :)

I should know I was a regular there for 3 years.

TheCorpulent1
05-02-2006, 04:23 PM
Superboy had to die. His very existence was problematic. He just didn't have a future in the DC Universe but he died being what he was created to be: a hero.

Next of the list: Wonder Girl.
What are you, GAH's second-in-command or something? How did Superboy not have a future in the DC universe? Any character can have a future in the DC universe. Besides, the current Supergirl's existence is far more problematic than Superboy's, but they're making that work.

The Leaguer
05-02-2006, 04:25 PM
He just didn't have a future in the DC Universe
Um... you remember that story Titans Tomorrow? That was actually about his future in the DC universe.

raybia
05-02-2006, 04:36 PM
Um... you remember that story Titans Tomorrow? That was actually about his future in the DC universe.


I know, and it was a cool story, but unfortunately, that is a future that would never happen because DC refuses to age the characters.

raybia
05-02-2006, 04:39 PM
What are you, GAH's second-in-command or something? How did Superboy not have a future in the DC universe? Any character can have a future in the DC universe. Besides, the current Supergirl's existence is far more problematic than Superboy's, but they're making that work.


Actually Supergirl's existence is pretty stupid. Kal-El was suppose to be the last survivor of Krypton.

That is like Bruce finding out that his parent's didn't die, but are part of the witness protection program and faked their deaths.

The Leaguer
05-02-2006, 04:39 PM
No they don't, they just aged everyone a year. :confused:

The Ether
05-02-2006, 04:55 PM
I know, and it was a cool story, but unfortunately, that is a future that would never happen because DC refuses to age the characters.
Not really, Robin is becoming a little more like Batman, Wonder Girl's powers come from Aries which maybe one of the reasons why his statue was there in the future. And Superboy is a clone which there is a big possibility(which I don't want it to happen) he can come back.

raybia
05-02-2006, 04:55 PM
No they don't, they just aged everyone a year. :confused:


The main characters never age so junior characters like Robin will never become full fledge adults.

The Ether
05-02-2006, 04:57 PM
They do age, you don't get grey hair when your in your mid thirties.

raybia
05-02-2006, 05:08 PM
They do age, you don't get grey hair when your in your mid thirties.


How old is Batman, Nightwing, Robin?

TheCorpulent1
05-02-2006, 05:09 PM
Someone just made a thread on that. I think the general consensus seems to be that Bruce's about 38, Dick's about 26 or 27, and Tim's 17. Bruce started at 25 and Tim started at 13, but I'm not sure when Dick started. Here's the thread:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229673

raybia
05-02-2006, 05:20 PM
Someone just made a thread on that. I think the general consensus seems to be that Bruce's about 38, Dick's about 26 or 27, and Tim's 17. Bruce started at 25 and Tim started at 13, but I'm not sure when Dick started. Here's the thread:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229673

Does anyone really think that Bruce and Clark are going to be allowed to age to 48, 58?

Does anyone really think that Bruce will be allowed by DC to eventually be permanently replaced by Tim or someone else?

DC will reboot the entire Universe and start over and introduced revised origins before they'll let their flagship characters age to be elderly.

TheCorpulent1
05-02-2006, 05:24 PM
Yeah, so? I still don't see how that means none of the characters have a future. It just means they won't succeed the flagship heroes and take over their identities. Nightwing seems to have gotten around that just fine.

BrianWilly
05-02-2006, 05:25 PM
http://www.titanstower.com/assets/whos%20who/aapanels/early/ttorigin2.jpghttp://www.titanstower.com/assets/whos%20who/aapanels/titans/titansreunited.jpg

http://www.titanstower.com/assets/whos%20who/aapanels/teentitans3/cassiewg1.jpghttp://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5497/1066/320/TT%20cvl35%28small%29.2.jpg

It takes a while, but they get there. One of the things I'm most proud of DC for -- as opposed to, oh, some other comic book companies -- is how effectively they've aged their young heroes. Did you know that of the original Teen Titans, Dick is the only one left who hasn't had children yet?


Does anyone really think that Bruce and Clark are going to be allowed to age to 48, 58?

Does anyone really think that Bruce will be allowed by DC to eventually be permanently replaced by Tim or someone else?

DC will reboot the entire Universe and start over and introduced revised origins before they'll let their flagship characters age to be elderly.Maybe. But who knows what the future will be like? In fifty or sixty years, is anyone still going to be clinging desperately to an image of Clark Kent as Superman?
What does that have to do with Superboy, anyway? He could be a completely valid character without ever having to replace Superman.

raybia
05-02-2006, 05:32 PM
Yeah, so? I still don't see how that means none of the characters have a future. It just means they won't succeed the flagship heroes and take over their identities. Nightwing seems to have gotten around that just fine.


I never said that none of the characters have a future, I said that Superboy didn't have a future. (By future, I mean to where the character becomes popular enough to escape the shadow of Superman and carry his own series and become a flagship hero.)

TheCorpulent1
05-02-2006, 05:36 PM
That's a big assumption to make based on virtually nothing. Besides, he wouldn't necessarily have to be able to carry his own solo series. He was a Titan. That's been enough for Arsenal, Donna Troy, and Tempest, more often than not.

raybia
05-02-2006, 05:36 PM
Maybe. But who knows what the future will be like? In fifty or sixty years, is anyone still going to be clinging desperately to an image of Clark Kent as Superman?
What does that have to do with Superboy, anyway? He could be a completely valid character without ever having to replace Superman.

We will never know, but he with the name Superboy and a Superman clone in every sense of the word, he would have always be in Superman's shadow an unnecessary.

raybia
05-02-2006, 05:38 PM
That's a big assumption to make based on virtually nothing. Besides, he wouldn't necessarily have to be able to carry his own solo series. He was a Titan. That's been enough for Arsenal, Donna Troy, and Tempest, more often than not.


I just think the (continued) existence of a Superboy (and a Supergirl) weakens the Superman mythos.

Purple Man
05-02-2006, 05:51 PM
If Superboy is pointless then so is the entire legacy of the Teen Titans.

Teenagers can't relate to adult characters like Superman, Batman or Wonder Woman, but they can relate to Superboy, Robin and Wondergirl.

I hope there will always be the Teen Titans.

Green Lantern
05-02-2006, 05:54 PM
The main characters never age so junior characters like Robin will never become full fledge adults.Junior characters like say... Dick Grayson? Barbara Gordon? Roy Harper? Donna Troy? Garth? Wally West? Dig up some Titans comics of the 60s, they were all in their early teens. Now they're in their late 20s; NO they didn't age AT ALL.

cerealkiller182
05-02-2006, 06:52 PM
^^^^BUt they will prolly stop there. If they get any older, they would be Superman/Batman/etc. ages, and that cannot happen cause I dont see the writers getting rid of the Title characters.

Which mean Tim and the others wont age cause they'll get to old to the old sidekicks.

The Ether
05-02-2006, 07:36 PM
This is one thing I like about DC. In Marvel only people on top of my head that grew up would have to be Spider-man, and Kitty Pride thanks to Astonishing X-men. I don't know exactly though.

UltimateBatman
05-02-2006, 08:48 PM
Summary of issue seven:

-The Society has broken into every metahuman prison and has unleashed all the villains.

-The villains attack Metropolis and engage the superheroes.

-Superboy Prime and Alex Luthor arrive at the battle.

-Alex reveals the changes made to New Earth: Wonder Woman help found the JLA, Joe Chill was captured, and others not mentioned.

-Doomsday arrives and engages Superman of Earth 1 and Superman of Earth 2.

-The Supermen defeat Doomsday by breaking his jaw.

-The Flash arrives to fight Superboy but is outmatched. This Flash is revealed to be Bart Allen.

-Superboy Prime leaves to fly into Oa to cause a Big Bang and restart the universe. The Martian Manhunter reads his mind and instructs everyone who can to follow him.

-Superboy Prime uses his laser vision to destroy Breach but the explosion brings back Captain Atom into the DCU.

-Batman fights Alex Luthor who appears to kill Nightwing. Alex loses his powers and is confront by a pissed Batman armed with a gun. Wonder Woman appears and pulls out her sword but drops it. Batman also drops the gun. ALex is consumed by a cave-in.

-Superboy Prime engages the GL Corps but kills many of them. The Supermen grab Superboy Prime and take him to the remains of Krypton where they go through the red sun.

-Earth-1 Superman, Earth-2 Superman and Superboy Prime land on GL Mogo and have lost their powers. Superboy Prime beats Earth-2 Superman to death.

-Earth-1 Superman defeats Superboy Prime and the GL Corps imprison Superboy Prime.

-Bart Allen retires as the Flash citing he no longer has the Speed Force.

-A powerless Alex Luthor is brutally murdered by the Joker and Lex Luthor.

-Batman leaves to rediscover himself with Nightwing and Robin. Superman is powerless and Wonder Woman also leaves to rediscover herself.

-A two page splash reveals some of the new hero designs and new heroes including Batwoman, Martian Manhunter, Captain Marvel, Captain Marvel Jr.,a hero OMAC, Uncle Sam and others.

-Superboy Prime is imprisoned at Oa in a mini red sun. He vows to escape.

Darthphere
05-02-2006, 08:50 PM
Im so pumped for this, im waking up early and everything.

Arkady Rossovich
05-02-2006, 08:52 PM
Does anyone have shots of the cover for IC 7?

Speedball
05-02-2006, 08:59 PM
Summary of issue seven:

-The Society has broken into every metahuman prison and has unleashed all the villains.

-The villains attack Metropolis and engage the superheroes.

-Superboy Prime and Alex Luthor arrive at the battle.

-Alex reveals the changes made to New Earth: Wonder Woman help found the JLA, Joe Chill was captured, and others not mentioned.

-Doomsday arrives and engages Superman of Earth 1 and Superman of Earth 2.

-The Supermen defeat Doomsday by breaking his jaw.

-The Flash arrives to fight Superboy but is outmatched. This Flash is revealed to be Bart Allen.

-Superboy Prime leaves to fly into Oa to cause a Big Bang and restart the universe. The Martian Manhunter reads his mind and instructs everyone who can to follow him.

-Superboy Prime uses his laser vision to destroy Breach but the explosion brings back Captain Atom into the DCU.

-Batman fights Alex Luthor who appears to kill Nightwing. Alex loses his powers and is confront by a pissed Batman armed with a gun. Wonder Woman appears and pulls out her sword but drops it. Batman also drops the gun. ALex is consumed by a cave-in.

-Superboy Prime engages the GL Corps but kills many of them. The Supermen grab Superboy Prime and take him to the remains of Krypton where they go through the red sun.

-Earth-1 Superman, Earth-2 Superman and Superboy Prime land on GL Mogo and have lost their powers. Superboy Prime beats Earth-2 Superman to death.

-Earth-1 Superman defeats Superboy Prime and the GL Corps imprison Superboy Prime.

-Bart Allen retires as the Flash citing he no longer has the Speed Force.

-A powerless Alex Luthor is brutally murdered by the Joker and Lex Luthor.

-Batman leaves to rediscover himself with Nightwing and Robin. Superman is powerless and Wonder Woman also leaves to rediscover herself.

-A two page splash reveals some of the new hero designs and new heroes including Batwoman, Martian Manhunter, Captain Marvel, Captain Marvel Jr.,a hero OMAC, Uncle Sam and others.

-Superboy Prime is imprisoned at Oa in a mini red sun. He vows to escape.
Thanks ya ass! (joking)

Nightwing
05-02-2006, 09:04 PM
The conclusion to IC is going to be huge.

Does anyone have shots of the cover for IC 7?

Here's Lee's cover, there's also George Pérez's variant for it.


http://dccomics.com/media/covers/5079_400x600.jpg (javascript:void(0))

Speedball
05-02-2006, 09:05 PM
I LOVE that cover so much!

The Caped Knight
05-02-2006, 09:08 PM
Summary of issue seven:

-The Society has broken into every metahuman prison and has unleashed all the villains.

-The villains attack Metropolis and engage the superheroes.

-Superboy Prime and Alex Luthor arrive at the battle.

-Alex reveals the changes made to New Earth: Wonder Woman help found the JLA, Joe Chill was captured, and others not mentioned.

-Doomsday arrives and engages Superman of Earth 1 and Superman of Earth 2.

-The Supermen defeat Doomsday by breaking his jaw.

-The Flash arrives to fight Superboy but is outmatched. This Flash is revealed to be Bart Allen.

-Superboy Prime leaves to fly into Oa to cause a Big Bang and restart the universe. The Martian Manhunter reads his mind and instructs everyone who can to follow him.

-Superboy Prime uses his laser vision to destroy Breach but the explosion brings back Captain Atom into the DCU.

-Batman fights Alex Luthor who appears to kill Nightwing. Alex loses his powers and is confront by a pissed Batman armed with a gun. Wonder Woman appears and pulls out her sword but drops it. Batman also drops the gun. ALex is consumed by a cave-in.

-Superboy Prime engages the GL Corps but kills many of them. The Supermen grab Superboy Prime and take him to the remains of Krypton where they go through the red sun.

-Earth-1 Superman, Earth-2 Superman and Superboy Prime land on GL Mogo and have lost their powers. Superboy Prime beats Earth-2 Superman to death.

-Earth-1 Superman defeats Superboy Prime and the GL Corps imprison Superboy Prime.

-Bart Allen retires as the Flash citing he no longer has the Speed Force.

-A powerless Alex Luthor is brutally murdered by the Joker and Lex Luthor.

-Batman leaves to rediscover himself with Nightwing and Robin. Superman is powerless and Wonder Woman also leaves to rediscover herself.

-A two page splash reveals some of the new hero designs and new heroes including Batwoman, Martian Manhunter, Captain Marvel, Captain Marvel Jr.,a hero OMAC, Uncle Sam and others.

-Superboy Prime is imprisoned at Oa in a mini red sun. He vows to escape.

OMG OMG OMG OGM, I'm so getting this issue .

Pksoze
05-02-2006, 09:30 PM
OMG OMG OMG OGM, I'm so getting this issue .


I didn't read the spoilers but your OMG got me pumped. :)

Assassin
05-02-2006, 09:32 PM
Im so pumped for this, im waking up early and everything.

me too, lol i'm gtting knots in my stomach

Assassin
05-02-2006, 09:33 PM
damn it i read some spoilers :(


i cant stop

Assassin
05-02-2006, 09:36 PM
I read mogo's name some where in the spoiler, i'm not saying what happens but he is there!

Assassin
05-02-2006, 09:36 PM
make me stop!

The_Mystery
05-02-2006, 09:37 PM
Those spoliers are so tempting. It's taking all my strength to not look.

Assassin
05-02-2006, 09:39 PM
you're stronger than me, i read one and then i skipped a few then read another, then another, **** make me stop, hold me, i think i'm going to bed now

Pksoze
05-02-2006, 09:47 PM
Those spoliers are so tempting. It's taking all my strength to not look.


Just think...one more day.

Anubis
05-02-2006, 09:50 PM
Three more days for me :(

deathshead2
05-02-2006, 09:53 PM
I don;t get to buy mine until free comicbook day.:( I bet all the civil wars will be gone too.

Pksoze
05-02-2006, 10:00 PM
Well one more day for me anyway. :)

The_Mystery
05-02-2006, 10:15 PM
What amazes me about this is that this type of event can never be done again. This is an epic the likes of which we probably won't see in this lifetime. If it is done it won't be a good or creative. Bravo DC.

Anubis
05-02-2006, 10:20 PM
Bah, give it another 20 or so years. They'll make another one when things start to get stagnant again.

Pksoze
05-02-2006, 10:21 PM
What amazes me about this is that this type of event can never be done again. This is an epic the likes of which we probably won't see in this lifetime. If it is done it won't be a good or creative. Bravo DC.


Well never say never... but this is the best mainstream epic DC has ever done imho.

I will see what tmrw brings but for now I view this series as superior to the original Crisis in characterization,drama, and even scope.

BrianWilly
05-02-2006, 11:04 PM
I didn't read the spoilers, but I think it's really funny how they seem to make people very excited and happy on this forum and yet on another forum I lurk at it made everyone pissed and ornery. Goes to show just how polarized the fandom can be.

Binker
05-02-2006, 11:06 PM
Wait, isn't Free Comic Book Day just for certain books?

Anubis
05-02-2006, 11:07 PM
I didn't read the spoilers, but I think it's really funny how they seem to make people very excited and happy on this forum and yet on another forum I lurk at it made everyone pissed and ornery. Goes to show just how polarized the fandom can be.

Well, the Hype has a lot less whiney douche bags. Well, the DC comics forums anyway.

Calendar Man
05-03-2006, 03:08 AM
Well, the Hype has a lot less whiney douche bags. Well, the DC comics forums anyway.


Haha awesome post! :up:

Yeah I didn't read entire spoilers but I couldn't help but take a quick peek and saw one thing that got me excited as all hell but I can see how it will also piss off some jerks.

gildea
05-03-2006, 06:01 AM
What amazes me about this is that this type of event can never be done again. This is an epic the likes of which we probably won't see in this lifetime. If it is done it won't be a good or creative. Bravo DC.


there was the original crisis...

The Batman
05-03-2006, 06:19 AM
I didn't read the spoilers, but I think it's really funny how they seem to make people very excited and happy on this forum and yet on another forum I lurk at it made everyone pissed and ornery. Goes to show just how polarized the fandom can be.

the DC boards werent too enthusiastic about this ish. but then again, were talking about the DC boards

raybia
05-03-2006, 10:29 AM
^^^^BUt they will prolly stop there. If they get any older, they would be Superman/Batman/etc. ages, and that cannot happen cause I dont see the writers getting rid of the Title characters.

Which mean Tim and the others wont age cause they'll get to old to the old sidekicks.


Exactly the point I was trying to make. :) :up:

marcofthebeast
05-03-2006, 11:10 AM
Just finished IC 7
and heres my reveiw...

****ing Awesome!!!

lceman
05-03-2006, 11:16 AM
Just read it. Now first thing I have to say is well done DC. I have to give it to Johns. Well done. I am extremely please with this but I do have 2 small issues: THe lack of Ion once he changes over and the disappointment of the Doomsday return (Could of been done better). Still with those issue an incredible read and can't wait until I get home and read it again.

BlackOpsTengu
05-03-2006, 11:28 AM
Pretty funny, just read a pet peeve someone had with the 'science' of the issue, i.e. super breath in space shouldn't work! ... Except that Kara used that exact same power in COIE in the exact same circumstances.

Just goes to show you how your focus determins your reality.

BlackOpsTengu
05-03-2006, 11:33 AM
Whoopsie, ignore this.

The Ether
05-03-2006, 11:36 AM
Just read it. Now first thing I have to say is well done DC. I have to give it to Johns. Well done. I am extremely please with this but I do have 2 small issues: THe lack of Ion once he changes over and the disappointment of the Doomsday return (Could of been done better). Still with those issue an incredible read and can't wait until I get home and read it again.
I like that scene, show's how strong E2-Superman is by catching Doomsday's punch with one hand.

Darthphere
05-03-2006, 11:38 AM
Hey, **** the spoiler tags I dont have time to be highlighting stuff.

Ultimate_Superman
05-03-2006, 11:40 AM
I loved this issue finally we get some bad ass Superman moments. Though I wonder will we ever have a crisis where the Super-Family doesnt save the world.

The Ether
05-03-2006, 11:40 AM
what is the death count now anyways?

Green Lantern
05-03-2006, 11:55 AM
Pretty funny, just read a pet peeve someone had with the 'science' of the issue, i.e. super breath in space shouldn't work! ... Except that Kara used that exact same power in COIE in the exact same circumstances.

Just goes to show you how your focus determins your reality.Technically the heroes were on Anti-Monitor's planetoid thing when she used hers. It probably had an atmosphere or some of those heroes would have died :o

lceman
05-03-2006, 12:06 PM
I like that scene, show's how strong E2-Superman is by catching Doomsday's punch with one hand.

I guess after his big return I just wanted more. I understand the purpose of it just was looking forward to a little more action between the two. I guess they just did not have room to show it. Too much to cover with the precious few pages Johns had. Since they did not hsow him dead there will probably be a return battle with Doomsday not too far off. Also just seeing supreboy cut the :supes: into his skin is a great touch. This is not the end of SBP.

Doc Destruction
05-03-2006, 12:29 PM
All I can say is...

http://pksmetal.com/forum/images/avatars/gallery/avatar4.gif

Holy hell...just astoundingly good. The last several pages are sooooo damn good.

Banshee
05-03-2006, 12:41 PM
Loved it, for some reason especially the part when Martian Manhunter said "take to the skies"... Oh yeah, and Gardener calling SPrime a cry baby.


Honestly though, I thought today's issue of Titans was just as good. Enjoyed that a hell of a lot too.

I don't remember how to do spoiler tags so my bad... those arnt really big spoilers anyway.

raybia
05-03-2006, 12:45 PM
When was #7 released?

Ultimate_Superman
05-03-2006, 12:49 PM
Today

Fledermaus
05-03-2006, 01:11 PM
I read it. I'm not going to say anything, except
I don't think Montoya is Batwoman. Batwoman is a redhead! And it looks like Freddy Freeman is the new Captain Marvel and Shazam(billy batson) new outfit loks sweeeet.
the spoilers that UltimateBatman posted earlier were pretty much dead on. I'm in the process of scanning the two page spread of a lot of new heroes. I'll post it son if nobody gets pissed

Ultimate_Superman
05-03-2006, 01:19 PM
I like the fact WW is using the jet again.

amazingfantasy15
05-03-2006, 01:28 PM
Great end to a great event! I haven't read any 1 year later titles yet (bought 'em, but letting 1st arcs accumulate before I read), but it seems to already answer some of the questions lurking out there. My personal favorite part of the issue was Joker killing Alexander

drastic_quench
05-03-2006, 01:39 PM
Well, that was well worth $28.

TheIntellectual
05-03-2006, 01:55 PM
My only complaint is the totally wonky Nightwing thing.

So he gets killed or atleast seriously effed up.... and then at the end he's all bright and peppy. WTF?

Overall though, I liked it. Hated how deathstroke was defeated off panel. But really, if my only complaints is that too much stuff happened off screen and murkiness in regards to ONE character.... yeah, I'm thoroughly impressed. Kudos Johns.

Pksoze
05-03-2006, 01:56 PM
The battle between Superboy & Superman was great. Superman saved the day once again and got a great speech. Kal l dying was dissapointing yet expected. Doomsday went out in a lame way... if it was going to be that easy they should have had Super Boy Prime kill him like he did the other villains like Floronic man. A good ending to the series and a new villain introduced.

Binker
05-03-2006, 02:05 PM
Now that IC#7 is out and IC itself is over, I need to ask this:

I got the Identity Crisis, OMAC Project, and I collected these issues. What else should I get that are needed and not that they are just simply tie ins?

Ultimate_Superman
05-03-2006, 02:09 PM
Superman OYL WW OYL Batman OYL JLA OYL Superman: Sacrifice (major for OMAC), 52

sethcohen
05-03-2006, 02:10 PM
teen titans OYL

Ultimate_Superman
05-03-2006, 02:12 PM
I forgot about TT OYL (thats good if you want to see if they bring back Superboy)

JesusOfNazarath
05-03-2006, 02:16 PM
Flash should be awesome too.

drastic_quench
05-03-2006, 02:24 PM
I still can't believe that Batman had a gun to Alex's head AND PULLED THE TRIGGER! Of course, the gun was empty - but sweet fancy Moses!

sethcohen
05-03-2006, 02:24 PM
im going to go crazy waiting a month for Flash OYL... i wish it was out next week!

Ultimate_Superman
05-03-2006, 02:26 PM
I still can't believe that Batman had a gun to Alex's head AND PULLED THE TRIGGER! Of course, the gun was empty - but sweet fancy Moses!Batman hasn't had a gun since his golden age days. Though it did kind of look gay when he says I won't be alone and you see Dick and Tim.

Ultimate_Superman
05-03-2006, 02:28 PM
I think the ending would have been better for Batman if you saw Catwoman on the boat or near the docks.

sethcohen
05-03-2006, 02:34 PM
or better yet, on a yacht full off bat-skanks at his disposal haha

Fledermaus
05-03-2006, 02:40 PM
I still can't believe that Batman had a gun to Alex's head AND PULLED THE TRIGGER! Of course, the gun was empty - but sweet fancy Moses!

I think that was a noise behind him. An empty gun goes CLICK not CHAK.

sethcohen
05-03-2006, 02:42 PM
I think that was a noise behind him. An empty gun goes CLICK not CHAK.

ya i thought that was Wonder Woman walking up behind him

BlackOpsTengu
05-03-2006, 02:49 PM
OMG, just reading these spoilers has made my day. I feel giddy. The TPB for Infinite Crisis can't come fast enough!

drastic_quench
05-03-2006, 02:50 PM
And so began the second great comics sound effect battle. First being Gwen's "SNAP".

CLICK vs CHAK, hmm? I say he pulled the trigger vs. some random sound behind him.

Darthphere
05-03-2006, 02:53 PM
Infinite Crisis #7=Orgasmic.

BlackOpsTengu
05-03-2006, 02:57 PM
I TOLD you guys not to start rating best Infinite Crisis moments until the last issue came out! *chuckle*

BlackOpsTengu
05-03-2006, 03:01 PM
Sad that E2 Superman died, but he couldn't really have lived in a world without Lois. At least they're in the real heaven now, not some psuedo one. Everyone dies, even Superman, but he saved the universe. He showed us how to be a hero again. I salute you, Man of Steel.

The Ether
05-03-2006, 03:02 PM
I'm a little dissappointed that 'Joe Chill' is the one who killed Bruce's parents again, I wonder how everyone else feels?

Darthphere
05-03-2006, 03:03 PM
I'm a little dissappointed that 'Joe Chill' is the one who killed Bruce's parents again, I wonder how everyone else feels?


Hate it.

Pksoze
05-03-2006, 03:05 PM
I TOLD you guys not to start rating best Infinite Crisis moments until the last issue came out! *chuckle*

Yeah it was a very good finale.

The only thing would have been if the ending was longer.

Pksoze
05-03-2006, 03:07 PM
Hate it.


Love it

Darthphere
05-03-2006, 03:10 PM
Love it


Your choice man, but it really is one of the worse moves in this mini and people didnt like it when it happened in Batman Year Two.

Doc Destruction
05-03-2006, 03:12 PM
Meh, I don't mind it.

JesusOfNazarath
05-03-2006, 03:12 PM
Batman hasn't had a gun since his golden age days. Though it did kind of look gay when he says I won't be alone and you see Dick and Tim.


LMAO

When Superboy carved the S in his chest:eek: , I flipped out over the awesomeness of it. The Joker part was great too. I love the violence of books today, and there not even in the Vertigo/Max line.:up: :) Guy had great parts in that too. This was really good.

JesusOfNazarath
05-03-2006, 03:17 PM
I'm kinda pissed they killed Kal L. I liked him and Kal El working together. It was sad when he died.:( It was the best non violent moment of the book/series.

GoldenAgeHero
05-03-2006, 03:17 PM
wow this issue was awesome, so awesome it needs itsown soundtrack.

does anyone know who the new shazam is? the one in the white with a hood,i sawacoupleof kids on the beach finding some artifacts or something, can anyone explain that?

Darthphere
05-03-2006, 03:19 PM
wow this issue was awesome, so awesome it needs itsown soundtrack.

does anyone know who the new shazam is? the one in the white with a hood,i sawacoupleof kids on the beach finding some artifacts or something, can anyone explain that?


I thought Billy was the new Shazam? Thats a Green lantern from another Earth. I know someone here knows.


EDIT: its the Tangent Universe Green Lantern staff.

Pksoze
05-03-2006, 03:27 PM
Your choice man, but it really is one of the worse moves in this mini and people didnt like it when it happened in Batman Year Two.


Actually I thought the original retcon was stupid.

Batman sees an alternate future says, maybe I was wrong and suddenly everything just changed.

I'll keep with the version that lasted for over 50 years over the zero hour version.

But then again its a choice issue.

GoldenAgeHero
05-03-2006, 03:28 PM
I thought Billy was the new Shazam? Thats a Green lantern from another Earth. I know someone here knows.


EDIT: its the Tangent Universe Green Lantern staff.


hunh:confused:

Pksoze
05-03-2006, 03:29 PM
Ok if people are posting spoilers than we can dispense with the spoiler tags.

To others who didn't read issue 7. Enter at your own risk.

Ultimate_Superman
05-03-2006, 03:30 PM
In honor of Superboy (Conner) and Kal-L and E-2 Lois I felt the need to post this:



Mama, take this \S/ off of me
I can't use it anymore.
It's gettin' dark, too dark for me to see
I feel like I'm knockin' on heaven's door.

Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door
Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door
Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door
Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door

Mama, put my cape in the ground
I can't use them anymore.
That long black cloud is comin' down
I feel like I'm knockin' on heaven's door.

Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door
Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door
Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door
Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door

Darthphere
05-03-2006, 03:30 PM
Ok if people are posting spoilers than we can dispense with the spoiler tags.

To others who didn't read issue 7. Enter at your own risk.


What instances werent spoiler tags used?

Pksoze
05-03-2006, 03:32 PM
What instances werent spoiler tags used?

Read Jesus's post (that's a big whopping spoiler)

JesusOfNazarath
05-03-2006, 03:34 PM
Edit:confused:

Ultimate_Superman
05-03-2006, 03:35 PM
Holy Crap can you say Lawsuite

Ultimate_Superman
05-03-2006, 03:37 PM
http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan003500363xb.jpg

GoldenAgeHero
05-03-2006, 03:39 PM
BTW i Freakin Love Superboy Prime,oh man carving that S in his chest was freakin badass and that look in his eyes. awww man pure gold.

Darthphere
05-03-2006, 03:40 PM
BTW i Freakin Love Superboy Prime,oh man carving that S in his chest was freakin badass and that look in his eyes. awww man pure gold.


Figures you'd love Emo Superboy.:(

Ultimate_Superman
05-03-2006, 03:42 PM
lol :up:

JesusOfNazarath
05-03-2006, 03:44 PM
How is Question flying?

Lackey
05-03-2006, 03:52 PM
I'm a little dissappointed that 'Joe Chill' is the one who killed Bruce's parents again, I wonder how everyone else feels?


that's the only problem I have with everything, but it's a minor problem... it's not likt it's going to be brought up a lot.

Johnny Blaze
05-03-2006, 03:53 PM
How is Question flying?
He ate some five bean chili for lunch. :o :(

Lackey
05-03-2006, 03:54 PM
And so began the second great comics sound effect battle. First being Gwen's "SNAP".

CLICK vs CHAK, hmm? I say he pulled the trigger vs. some random sound behind him.


he loaded a bullet into the chamber (the sound), but he didn't fire... or else why would Wonder Woman try talking him out of firing if there were no bullets?

Motown Marvel
05-03-2006, 04:03 PM
"you made a LOT of mistakes. You underestimated Superman. Superboy. Me. But the biggest one? You didnt let the Joker play."

BLAM!

"now who's stupid?"

hell......f**king.....yeah!!! favorite moment in the book....that along with having the end fight on mogo, how cool is that?

Shadowknight
05-03-2006, 04:05 PM
Batman hasn't had a gun since his golden age days. Though it did kind of look gay when he says I won't be alone and you see Dick and Tim.
Actually, that's wrong. In Batman: Year 2, he was going to shoot Joe Chill with a gun, the one that killed his parent. Before he could pull the trigger, someone else shot the guy. Jeph Loeb wrote a story in Batman/Superman where Bruce was back in time to where his parents were killed, and shot and killed Chill.

GoldenAgeHero
05-03-2006, 04:08 PM
lol :up:

hahahahahahahah....at least my superboy is still alive.:up:

Pksoze
05-03-2006, 04:10 PM
hahahahahahahah....at least my superboy is still alive.:up:


Yeah but he's an evil psychotic & imprisoned.

Darthphere
05-03-2006, 04:11 PM
hahahahahahahah....at least my superboy is still alive.:up:



At least the dead Superboy won in the end.:up:

stillanerd
05-03-2006, 04:20 PM
So I guess we have to wait until 52 to see what made Superman loose his powers, huh? Maybe Roach is right and Supernova is Superman's powers personified somehow. :confused: Batman pointing the gun at Alex seems very much like the pilot episode from Batman Beyond. And as we know, when that happened Bruce quit being Batman. Seems like what Bats did or was about to do here is one of the reasons why he goes off soul-searching, among other things. Also, who wants to bet that Superboy Prime will be the intergalactic threat that gives Darkseid a run for his money during 52?

Darthphere
05-03-2006, 04:22 PM
So I guess we have to wait until 52 to see what made Superman loose his powers, huh? Maybe Roach is right and Supernova is Superman's powers personified somehow. :confused: Batman pointing the gun at Alex seems very much like the pilot episode from Batman Beyond. And as we know, when that happened Bruce quit being Batman. Seems like what Bats did or was about to do here is one of the reasons why he goes off soul-searching, among other things. Also, who wants to bet that Superboy Prime will be the intergalactic threat that gives Darkseid a run for his money during 52?


Ummm they showed how he lost his powers in IC#7.:confused:

Pksoze
05-03-2006, 04:23 PM
So I guess we have to wait until 52 to see what made Superman loose his powers, huh? Maybe Roach is right and Supernova is Superman's powers personified somehow. :confused: Batman pointing the gun at Alex seems very much like the pilot episode from Batman Beyond. And as we know, when that happened Bruce quit being Batman. Seems like what Bats did or was about to do here is one of the reasons why he goes off soul-searching, among other things. Also, who wants to bet that Superboy Prime will be the intergalactic threat that gives Darkseid a run for his money during 52?


We saw what made Superman lose his powers, he flew through kryptonite and into a red sun.

That totally drained him.

sethcohen
05-03-2006, 04:30 PM
So I guess we have to wait until 52 to see what made Superman loose his powers, huh? Maybe Roach is right and Supernova is Superman's powers personified somehow. :confused: Batman pointing the gun at Alex seems very much like the pilot episode from Batman Beyond. And as we know, when that happened Bruce quit being Batman. Seems like what Bats did or was about to do here is one of the reasons why he goes off soul-searching, among other things. Also, who wants to bet that Superboy Prime will be the intergalactic threat that gives Darkseid a run for his money during 52?

ill explain it for you in spoiler text:
his body was saturated with red solar energy, therfore removing his powers. im imagining he still doesnt have them a year later since he flew THROUGH the red sun and litterally filled his cells with red solar energy

sethcohen
05-03-2006, 04:31 PM
sorry, double post

Spectre722
05-03-2006, 04:32 PM
Best parts:

Bart comes back: "Still got Flash phobia?"

J'onn takes charge: "This is the Martian Manhunter. I have read this Superboy's mind. So now you have too. He is heading for Oa. He wants to destroy this universe. I urge any and all of you who can...to take to the skies."

Best one right here, Batman and Alex Luthor: "I know what Superman is going through. He doesn't deserve that. Superboy didn't deserve that. What do you deserve?"

Superman: It's not about where you were born. Or what powers you have. Or what you wear on your chest. It's about what you do...it's about action."

Second best, Luthor: "You made alot of mistakes. You underestimated Superman. Superboy. Me. But the biggest one? You didn't let the Joker play. Now who's stupid?"

So to recap:

Superman lost his powers after flying through Krypton's Red Sun.
Batman, Nightwing, and Robin are taking the pilgramage Bruce took and are retraining themselves.
Wonderwoman is going to learn how to be human again.

And then that splash page shows us all the changes...Looks like Freddy becomes the new Captain Marvel, while Billy goes all wizard-like. J'onn gets a new look. And is Barbara Gordon Batwoman? An OMAC becomes a hero (ten bucks says it's Snapper Carr).

Let's not forget Bart Allen is not the Flash! He lost his powers!

mmckellop
05-03-2006, 04:56 PM
Here its is guys and girls the end of the road.


So the issue starts with all the folks from last issue standing over Conner's body and they are joined by robin and Power Girl who learns that Earth 2 Lois died. Then Hal tells everybody that J'onn just told him that The Society has just broke open every meta human prison on the planet and that they have declared war on the hero's.

First step? destroying Metropolis.


The next couple of pages detail the battle of metropolis as seen in the Villians United Special.

Alex and Superboy Prime (SBP) are there as well as an army of hero's. Black Adam rips off Amazo's head. SPB kills some folks who I don't recognize and alex tells him that new earth has some changes, wonder woman helped found the justice soceity, thomas and martha wayne's killer was caught and superman was active before moving to metroplis. Bane breaks someones back. Doomsday is attacks Green Arrow and Arsenal but gets his ass whooped by the two supermen. Modern supes leads the charge into Metroplis and he and earth 2 take down bizzaro. Hal takes out sinestro, ray and the female dr. light take out the evil verison.

earth 2 supes fights with the justice society against zoom and wildcat remembers him.

alex luthor fires on powergirl and is finally confronted by earth 2 supes he explains that he is just like his father, a hero is a world of villians.

sbp interrupts the fight and is about to kill cassie when the flash, an aged bart allen, show up and pummels him til he flies away announcing his intent to flight into Oa at the speed of light. J'onn reads his mind and alerts the flies, who follow in hot pursuit.

spb possibly kills zuirel and ruptures breachs suit, he explodes possibly killing looker of the outsiders. when the dust settles, captian atom is there instead.

earth 2 tries in vain to stop spb but, he is ingnored. hal tells guy that troubles coming his way.

batman takes down deathstoke and alex appears saying that they've damned earth he tries to fry batman but nightwing gets in the way.
the shaggy man appear and collapses the street that they were all standing on.

the gl corp led by guy attacks spb. 32 lanterns are killed before the supes and the others arrive.

back on earth batman beats down a now powerless alex and picks up one of deathstrokes guns with the intent of killing him, but is stopped by wonder woman who shatters her sword and tells him its not worth it. he agrees and backs off just and rock slide falls on alex.

the two supermen knock spb though the remains of the planet krypton, which does effect him cuz he isn't from that universe. they then push superman though kryptons red sun and into mogo, the gl from alan moore's famous story.

the arise from three holes on the planets surface and spb, now minus armor, uses his failing heat vision on earth 1. his is attacked by earth 2 and realizes that their collective powers are fading.

he kills earth 2.

earth rips of the s shield of spb and defeats him

the gl corp plus heroes land and take spb captive.

the next day metroplis is being rebuilt, skeets and booster gold disscuss plans for the future and the fact that blue beetle is missing.

two kids find the tanget universe green lantern.

bart explains to jay garrick that his powers are gone because the speed force is gone and he does know where wally is. jay has speed because of his meta gene. bart doesn't reveal where spb was kept or his is older.

alex is killed in gothlam city by joker and lex luthor.

batman, supes and wonder woman discuss their plans for the future, superman is powerless for the timebeing and wonderman is leaving to find herself. batman is going to retract his to becoming batman, but this time with robin and nightwing in tow.

there is a two page splash of all the heroes who will be protecting the dcu in 52 inculding captian marvel in white, with cmj in red. a batwoman with red hair, an omac on the side of the heroes and j'onn in a new outfit.

the last shows that the gls have imprisoned spb inside of a red sun eater and they have posted 50 gls to keep watch at all times.

spb swears that he will escape.

Dope Nose
05-03-2006, 04:58 PM
man, if only there was already a huge Infinite Crisis thread where all these spoilers have already been listed.

oh, wait...
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193748&page=166

The Sage
05-03-2006, 05:22 PM
Excellent read. I'll be picking up the trade.

slipalong
05-03-2006, 05:27 PM
pictures of any of this???


Pretty PUH-lease??

Nightwing
05-03-2006, 05:41 PM
IC #7 was one great read, and the ending was simply brilliant. I'll be picking up the trade, even though I have all the issues. One of my favorite scenes was seeing Joker killing Alexander, then laughing hysterically about it. Aswell as Bruce starting to loosen up toward the others when saying he'll be taking a trip with Dick and Tim. All in all the issue was fantastic.

Also, did anyone recognize that Batwoman had the same symbol on her chest that resembled the one Terry McGinnis wore in Batman Beyond?

Pksoze
05-03-2006, 05:47 PM
I'm considering getting the trade as well.

Nothing like reading this series in one setting.

The only unfortunate part is that the series had so many fill in artists.

Other than that it was great & the ending begs for a sequel.

Binker
05-03-2006, 05:56 PM
With reading this, I have made a desicion:

I WON'T BE GETTING 52!!!!

Darthphere
05-03-2006, 05:57 PM
With reading this, I have made a desicion:

I WON'T BE GETTING 52!!!!


Why not?

GoldenAgeHero
05-03-2006, 06:03 PM
With reading this, I have made a desicion:

I WON'T BE GETTING 52!!!!

ok.........

Fledermaus
05-03-2006, 06:03 PM
I'm gonna post the two-page spread at the end

So don't look.


















http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/Sam655321/IC7Spread1.jpg

The Caped Knight
05-03-2006, 06:18 PM
I just finshed reading Infinite Crisis # 7

OMG, This series ended off with a huge BANG .

Xofenroht
05-03-2006, 06:26 PM
what a great ending to a great story....

or was it?

Darthphere
05-03-2006, 06:27 PM
what a great ending to a great story....

or was it?


Great or an ending?

LinternaVerde
05-03-2006, 06:39 PM
"good hands"... lobo?????? omac???? catman??????

BlackOpsTengu
05-03-2006, 06:45 PM
Do not diss the main man!

I loved it in the animated JL when Lobo showed up to take Superman's placed after he died. He he, soooo funny.

"Say it! Say uncle!"

Lackey
05-03-2006, 06:47 PM
so... did Zauriel die?

Pksoze
05-03-2006, 06:51 PM
so... did Zauriel die?

Yeah, but that really doesn't matter...as he can always come back from heaven.

How about Doomsday is he gone?

Cause if Doomsday died it was sort of weak.

BlackOpsTengu
05-03-2006, 07:06 PM
He had half his mother 'effin face PUNCHED OFF by TWO Supermen. The jaw was practically falling off in the scan I saw.

That's pretty ironic given the circumstances. :D

Johnny Blaze
05-03-2006, 07:09 PM
so... did Zauriel die?
It sure looked like he did. :D

Wait...shhhh...you here that?



It sounds like Leaguer is crying. :p

The BatDude
05-03-2006, 07:18 PM
Figures you'd love Emo Superboy.:(SuperBoy isn't the only Emo in the DCU

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/83754703976.213.GIF

GoldenAgeHero
05-03-2006, 07:24 PM
bwhahahahaha thats gold!

nightstreak
05-03-2006, 07:25 PM
I'm a little dissappointed that 'Joe Chill' is the one who killed Bruce's parents again, I wonder how everyone else feels?

Question: Who is Joe Chill.

Was that Nightwing on the boat with Tim? In Outsiders OYL he says after IC everyone thought he was dead.

GOD DAMN! KID FLAH IS OLDER! BIG SUPRISE THEIR! WALLLYYYYY!
CAN SOMEONE POST A LIST OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE 2 PAGES OF ALL THOSE HEROS, I DIDNT RECOGNIZE HALF OF THEM!

CAN SOMEONE ALSO POST A LIST OF EVERYONE THAT DIED IN THE 7 ISSUES! IM CHECKING MYSELF, BUT IM MISSING SOME THEIR AT MY COTTAGE.

Arkady Rossovich
05-03-2006, 07:28 PM
The conclusion to IC is going to be huge.



Here's Lee's cover, there's also George Pérez's variant for it.


http://dccomics.com/media/covers/5079_400x600.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0))

Really?Does anyone have it?

LinternaVerde
05-03-2006, 07:29 PM
what... WHAT???

Joe Chill, originally, was the man who killed Batman Parents...

Anubis
05-03-2006, 07:29 PM
Question: Who is Joe Chill.
The guy that killed Bruce Wayne's parents.

Was that Nightwing on the boat with Tim? In Outsiders OYL he says after IC everyone thought he was dead.

No, he said everyone thinks the Outsiders are dead, which doesn't mean they are dead dead, but simply disbanded.

GOD DAMN! KID FLAH IS OLDER! BIG SUPRISE THEIR! WALLLYYYYY!
CAN SOMEONE POST A LIST OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE 2 PAGES OF ALL THOSE HEROS, I DIDNT RECOGNIZE HALF OF THEM!

No

CAN SOMEONE ALSO POST A LIST OF EVERYONE THAT DIED IN THE 7 ISSUES! IM CHECKING MYSELF, BUT IM MISSING SOME THEIR AT MY COTTAGE.

No :)

nightstreak
05-03-2006, 07:37 PM
No :)

hOW ABOUT YOU f YOURSELF. :) :up: :)

Who is Zauriel, Picture?
Damn is that Captain marvel in the hooded all white Shazam costume? Damn!

GoldenAgeHero
05-03-2006, 07:44 PM
i wouldnt do it either, i really dotn feel like doing anything.

Binker
05-03-2006, 07:45 PM
Why not?

Why not? Well when I read the last pages of IC#7, I figured that you don't need 52 because the last scene is the big three going away and then cut to OYL where they come back. So 52 isn't really needed.

Darthphere
05-03-2006, 07:48 PM
Why not? Well when I read the last pages of IC#7, I figured that you don't need 52 because the last scene is the big three going away and then cut to OYL where they come back. So 52 isn't really needed.


But 52 is going to fill in the blanks of that missing year. Why wouldnt you ant to know what happened then.

BrianWilly
05-03-2006, 07:48 PM
An excellent end to an excellent series.

I have some complaints...the art was sketchy in some places -- you can really tell which were the pages that were added last-minute -- and the subplot with the Spectre pretty much ended up going nowhere at all and it was really unclear just how the heck the fight against the villains finally got resolved, though I imagine that the tide was turned when the big guns showed up.

The rest of it was just flat-out awesome. Loved Wonder Woman's scene with Batman and Alex. And Superboy against the Green Lanterns. Taking Superboy into f'ing red sun Rao itself. Superman-2's death scene was great, since what he said was really cool: even if he dies or is changed or whatever, the idea of "Superman" will always be around.

Superboy's carved "S" at the end reminded me of the S that Tom Welling sometimes has on his chest in Smallville. It's fitting, since they're both just about as whiny:D.

BlackOpsTengu
05-03-2006, 08:05 PM
So... when's this series going to be collected in a trade paper back? :D :supes:

Binker
05-03-2006, 08:08 PM
But 52 is going to fill in the blanks of that missing year. Why wouldnt you ant to know what happened then.

I thought about that. But I doubt I need it. I know why the three left (or two, Clark just has none of his powers) and I know things are changing. Thats what OYL is about. But I won't need 52. I just don't.

Lackey
05-03-2006, 08:16 PM
I thought about that. But I doubt I need it. I know why the three left (or two, Clark just has none of his powers) and I know things are changing. Thats what OYL is about. But I won't need 52. I just don't.


most people around here are picking it up because they care about more in the DCU than just the big three, but if you don't, I see no problem with not wanting to commit to 52 issues of a comic book.

BrianWilly
05-03-2006, 08:59 PM
Did Zauriel "die?" I thought he was just really badly burned.

BlackOpsTengu
05-03-2006, 09:03 PM
I can just see the Monty Python conversation between Superboy Prime, Black Racer, and Zauriel.

"Take him off my hands would you? Do me a favor?"

"I'm not dead! I'm just very badly burned! I feel happy! I feel happy!"

"Oh... alright." *thwock*

"Thanks."

Pksoze
05-03-2006, 09:03 PM
He had half his mother 'effin face PUNCHED OFF by TWO Supermen. The jaw was practically falling off in the scan I saw.

That's pretty ironic given the circumstances. :D


This was the guy who killed Supes, he was so hyped up.

I wonder if he's dead.

Anubis
05-03-2006, 09:06 PM
Of course he isn't dead. He's already been beaten to death, atomized, dumped into entrophy at the end of time, and probaly a bunch of other stuff. You really think getting a double punch in the head would take him out for good? They wanna get rid of him for good they should probally strap him to the source wall or something.

Nightwing
05-03-2006, 09:06 PM
Who is Zauriel, Picture?

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/4398/zauriel.jpg

Damn is that Captain marvel in the hooded all white Shazam costume? Damn!

Seems so. Apparently, Freedy is the new Captain Marvel, while Billy has gone through some sord of change.

BlackOpsTengu
05-03-2006, 09:07 PM
Right, I know. This is the monster who beat up Darkseid with a smile. But still, Pre-Crisis Superman helping normal Superman take down the guy who killed him with a couple of punches is pretty awesome. :up: It took our Superman New Genesis weapons to do that much damage to Doomsday, and it healed in a few seconds. The message? Don't screw with E-2 Superman!

hippie_hunter
05-03-2006, 09:11 PM
The rest of it was just flat-out awesome. Loved Wonder Woman's scene with Batman and Alex. And Superboy against the Green Lanterns. Taking Superboy into f'ing red sun Rao itself. Superman-2's death scene was great, since what he said was really cool: even if he dies or is changed or whatever, the idea of "Superman" will always be around..

I thought that they took Superboy Prime onto Mogo, the living Green Lantern planet.

Darthphere
05-03-2006, 09:11 PM
Did Zauriel "die?" I thought he was just really badly burned.


It hurts like hell from what im told.

Spectre722
05-03-2006, 09:15 PM
i doubt zauriel's dead. didn't he die before and just go back to heaven?

javi1024
05-03-2006, 09:38 PM
I'm gonna post the two-page spread at the end

So don't look.


















http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/Sam655321/IC7Spread1.jpg
i just wanna know one thing- is that Batgirl or Batwoman?

BrianWilly
05-03-2006, 09:46 PM
Probably Batwoman. She'll show up during 52.

I actually have to say that I'm not incredibly happy with that spread. It's a great look at the OYL heroes, but it also feels a bit rushed. I mean, did the guy even look at the Ion symbol before drawing it??

batnkevlar
05-03-2006, 09:53 PM
So, it looks good... I'm wondering about what's gonna happen in 52... how does Supes lose his powers again? And how does Bats beat Deathstroke?

GoldenAgeHero
05-03-2006, 10:01 PM
read the issue man. abyways superboy prime was right about one thing haljordanpretending to be a hero. i loved that line.

BrianWilly
05-03-2006, 10:02 PM
Superman sent himself flying into a bunch of Kryptonite and then directly through the heart of a red sun.

It didn't show Batman directly fighting Deathstroke, but technically he fought him alongside Nightwing and Robin so it's not hard to imagine how they won.

Fledermaus
05-03-2006, 10:05 PM
prep-time.

I still want to know who that red-headed Batwoman is.

Nightwing
05-03-2006, 10:08 PM
Probably Batwoman. She'll show up during 52.

As well as possibly getting her own ongoing....

I still want to know who that red-headed Batwoman is.

Could be someone current who decides to don the mask, or someone completely new.

BrianWilly
05-03-2006, 10:16 PM
I honestly don't see how it could possibly be anything but the obvious choice of Barbara. I mean, it's the reverse psychology thing here ("that's so obvious, it couldn't be right") but they seem to be setting it up pretty well and coming up with someone new at this point seems pretty redundant.

I don't see Connor Hawke:(. Or Roy.

Emerald Knight
05-03-2006, 10:18 PM
Connor's on an island somewhere with Mia/Speedy (read Titan's first OYL issue)

Don't know about Roy, though :(

BrianWilly
05-03-2006, 10:32 PM
Yeah, but they showed Speedy in that spread.

Nightwing
05-03-2006, 10:32 PM
I honestly don't see how it could possibly be anything but the obvious choice of Barbara. I mean, it's the reverse psychology thing here ("that's so obvious, it couldn't be right") but they seem to be setting it up pretty well and coming up with someone new at this point seems pretty redundant.

Perhaps they'll be using her ability to wiggle her toes again to transpire it into something more? Still, there's a slight chance it's somebody new. It'll surprise me if it's Barbara, though.

I don't see Connor Hawke:(. Or Roy.

As Emerald Knight mentioned he's on an island with Mia. As for Roy, there's always 52.

BlackOpsTengu
05-03-2006, 10:38 PM
Right, in a perfect world we would have seen the full Batman Nightwing Robin vs Deathstroke fight. But Bruce cracking Slade's skull into the ground was pretty satisfying. :D

MaskedManJRK
05-03-2006, 10:52 PM
read the issue man. abyways superboy prime was right about one thing haljordanpretending to be a hero. i loved that line.

I think for once we agree on something--I always saw that "yellow fear demon" thing to be such bulls**t it's not even funny.

The Question
05-03-2006, 11:01 PM
I'm gonna post the two-page spread at the end

So don't look.


















http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/Sam655321/IC7Spread1.jpg



......why is The Question flying? :confused:

Stealth_Prime
05-03-2006, 11:07 PM
Go Nightwing!!!

Nightwing
05-03-2006, 11:09 PM
......why is The Question flying? :confused:

Heh. Grace, Ravager, Wildcat, and a few others are doing the same thing.

I just noticed Ralph Dibny isn't on the splash page...

The Riddler
05-03-2006, 11:28 PM
can someone scan the joker pages?

that sounds really cool.

Speedball
05-03-2006, 11:35 PM
did anyone else notice Catman on the Left page?
He's behind star girl.

Green Lantern
05-03-2006, 11:59 PM
Heh. Grace, Ravager, Wildcat, and a few others are doing the same thing.

I just noticed Ralph Dibny isn't on the splash page...... and one of the main characters of 52 doesn't make it to OYL...

The Leaguer
05-04-2006, 12:19 AM
I refuse to believe that Zauriel is dead, and not just because my entire reality would come crashing down if he was: he wasn't shown dying, so there's no reason to assume he's dead. If he is really badly burned, he can just heal it right back up.

And even if he did die, he's Heaven designated him as their respresentative on Earth, they'll just send him right back down. It's happened before.

Other than that, the issue kicked ass. The only part that really made me mad was Batwoman. The fact that it's so obviously not Cassandra Cain is infuriating.

Calendar Man
05-04-2006, 12:49 AM
"you made a LOT of mistakes. You underestimated Superman. Superboy. Me. But the biggest one? You didnt let the Joker play."

BLAM!

"now who's stupid?"

hell......f**king.....yeah!!! favorite moment in the book....that along with having the end fight on mogo, how cool is that?


I agree. As a Joker fanatic this was the scene I'll never forget.

Emerald Knight
05-04-2006, 12:52 AM
Perhaps they'll be using her ability to wiggle her toes again to transpire it into something more? Still, there's a slight chance it's somebody new. It'll surprise me if it's Barbara, though.



As Emerald Knight mentioned he's on an island with Mia. As for Roy, there's always 52.

Isn't there that rumor of Roy being in Checkmate soon? Has there been something to confirm that?

Assassin
05-04-2006, 12:53 AM
"Look up in the sky kid"

and who was that that bane broke?

Emerald Knight
05-04-2006, 01:00 AM
Judo Master. One of the Charleton Comics characters along with Nightshade, Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, the Question, and others.

kiuju2k
05-04-2006, 01:43 AM
Meh... Imprisoning sbp in a red sun surrounded by 50 gls is a mistake. Not like they know how to kill him anyways.

Calendar Man
05-04-2006, 02:08 AM
When will The Joker/Alex avatars be coming out?

stillanerd
05-04-2006, 02:17 AM
ill explain it for you in spoiler text:
his body was saturated with red solar energy, therfore removing his powers. im imagining he still doesnt have them a year later since he flew THROUGH the red sun and litterally filled his cells with red solar energy

*some comic book fan stands next to stillanerd wearing an "I'm with stupid" T-Shirt with an arrow pointing in stillanerd's direction and yells "Superman is powerless in Red Sun environments you moron!"*

Yes, I REALLY should've understood that the first time. :O

...why is the Question flying?:confused:

I think he's supposed to be jumping. Although given that there's no ground in that picture, they all look like they're flying. :)

Assassin
05-04-2006, 02:31 AM
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/4398/zauriel.jpg



Seems so. Apparently, Freedy is the new Captain Marvel, while Billy has gone through some sord of change.

Puberty?

Calendar Man
05-04-2006, 02:41 AM
Wow... its amazing how everyone on here seems to have loved IC #7 (and IC in general) and yet most on DC's own boards are calling it crap and saying Civil War will be better. Personally I think there is very little chance of Civil War even coming close in quality...and seriously if you didn't like IC..you may need mental help.

Calendar Man
05-04-2006, 03:00 AM
Also Alex is killed by The Joker only really. Lex just looks on and does some commentary.

Green Lantern
05-04-2006, 03:30 AM
Isn't there that rumor of Roy being in Checkmate soon? Has there been something to confirm that?Rucka said that he will NOT be in Checkmate but that there ARE plans for him :gulp:

GyLocke
05-04-2006, 03:42 AM
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/Sam655321/IC7Spread1.jpg

Lol, Lobo is flying, and reffered to as "good hands".

Pksoze
05-04-2006, 05:36 AM
Wow... its amazing how everyone on here seems to have loved IC #7 (and IC in general) and yet most on DC's own boards are calling it crap and saying Civil War will be better. Personally I think there is very little chance of Civil War even coming close in quality...and seriously if you didn't like IC..you may need mental help.


The DC board is saturated with trolls. I gave that place up long ago.

There are probably lots of Marvel fans there who will bash it in favor of Civil War regardless.

I'm sure 75% of DC fans loved Infinite Crisis based on just the sales.

Personally, I don't know how a board could have paid mods & fail so badly.


This board is pretty even handed & was filled with some skeptical posters when the story started see the beginning of this thread.

The fans just enjoyed the story.

As for Civil War it was ok... but I knew what would happen already with heroes arguing against each other.

So I hope it will be more impactful the next issue.

roach
05-04-2006, 06:11 AM
IC7 was the end all be all of comics.....and that last scene made me believe we have not seen the last of Superboy Prime

Vic Von Doom
05-04-2006, 06:22 AM
IMO, Infinite Crisis #7 is one of the best comics I have read in a long time. I liked that Doomsday got taken out in a hurry. It fit in with Supes new "take action" credo. Him and E2 Supes were just like "Alright, there's Doomsday, punch his jaw off, there. What's next?" Lovely. Superman really got his time to shine in this book. Not like he never does, but I think our Supes stole this book, he got some pretty damn good moments.

I love Green Arrow with the hood. Always thought that looked cool.

I'm digging on the Seven Soldiers in that spread. I caught Shining Knight (both) , Frankenstein, Klarion, Bulleteer, and the Manhattan Guardian. Assuming Morrison doesn't bump off Zatanna, can we assume then that Mister Miracle bites it at the end of 7 Soldiers?

Also...I know Garrick is supposed to be the Flash, but Grownup Bart is still in that spread...

All in all, this book was phenomenal. Luthor owned, the Big 3 kicked butt, E2 Supes got a great swan song, and a new A-list baddie in Superboy Prime is born. Bravo, Johns, Jimenez, all the artists who pulled Phil's ass out of the fire, and DC.

Oh, and I may be wrong, but I had thought that the thing those two kids found was not a tangent universe GL, whatever the hell that is, but rather the helmet of Dr. Fate, a dangling plot thread from Day of Vengeance. It would make more sense to wrap that up than to bring back some obscure artifact.

nite-owl
05-04-2006, 06:32 AM
I went to my comic store today to get IC7 but it wasn't in so I got three x-men comics instead:(:down

supes_el
05-04-2006, 07:44 AM
^^ouch!

Anyway IC7 was phenomenal. Everything about it was well done. I would have like to seen a badass Doomsday and Ion in the issue though. Its great to see WW using her jet and Bats semi-happy again. SBP was a f'n powerful douche emo in this issue. Captain Marvel looks great.

So what was the thing that washed up on shore?

Also I cant wait a few years when they spring SBP back at us in a DC vs SBP thing.

Vic Von Doom
05-04-2006, 07:49 AM
[spoiler]So what was the thing that washed up on shore?


I said up there I'm pretty sure that's the helmet of Dr. Fate. At the end of the Day Of Vengeance special Blue Devil chucks it into the distance.

BlackOpsTengu
05-04-2006, 08:30 AM
Well, Luthor was the one who found him presumably. Joker wouldn't even know who he was without Lex. Besides, Lex rarely gets his hands dirty. I think its safe to say they both killed him.

Nightwing
05-04-2006, 08:36 AM
... and one of the main characters of 52 doesn't make it to OYL...

Despite Sure already being murdered, I don't want to see Ralph suffer the same fate by being killed off just because she was. Even though he isn't on the splash page, hopefully he'll make it out alive. In Detective Comics however, he's refered to as "not available."

The Caped Knight
05-04-2006, 09:26 AM
Ok who's The new Batwoman, She a redhead . Is it babs ?

The Caped Knight
05-04-2006, 09:29 AM
http://www.happyending.org/gallery/albums/comic/infinitecrisis/ic070002.jpg

Doc Destruction
05-04-2006, 09:31 AM
LOVE the invisible plane. So goofy, yet cool as hell.

Johnny Blaze
05-04-2006, 09:53 AM
I refuse to believe that Zauriel is dead, and not just because my entire reality would come crashing down if he was: he wasn't shown dying, so there's no reason to assume he's dead. If he is really badly burned, he can just heal it right back up.

And even if he did die, he's Heaven designated him as their respresentative on Earth, they'll just send him right back down. It's happened before.

Other than that, the issue kicked ass. The only part that really made me mad was Batwoman. The fact that it's so obviously not Cassandra Cain is infuriating.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... :D

It must have hurt to see your boy punked like that. :o :(

nite-owl
05-04-2006, 10:03 AM
I think my soul is being torn apart without reading IC7:(

Fledermaus
05-04-2006, 10:16 AM
http://www.happyending.org/gallery/albums/comic/infinitecrisis/ic070002.jpg

"And what you we going to do with all this free time, Mr. Kent?"

"We're gonna make a baby, baby."

sinewave
05-04-2006, 11:04 AM
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/Sam655321/IC7Spread1.jpg

is that supposed to be dr. mid-nite at the bottom in the all-black costume? why the change in color scheme? also, who's that girl behind red tornado? the one with the red green and brown costume. who's the black and white guy to the right of wildcat?


another, non-splashpage related question. how long until we find out why dick and babs aren't getting married? they didn't show any kind of resolution to that before dick set off on his tour of the world with bruce and tim.

Ultimate_Superman
05-04-2006, 11:12 AM
I am upset that we don't see the old Auqaman up there at all where is he and will he be back?