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GNR
08-17-2005, 01:24 AM
There hasn't been a whole lot of Danger Room discussion for the longest time.Here's a place where you guys can voice all of your ideas and concerns about the Danger Room.:)

aaron
08-17-2005, 01:27 AM
so apparantly a world war 2 scenario with iceman and shadowcat.

im not sure if id want them two to be involved in it, colossus would be good in it.

pyromaniac
08-17-2005, 01:28 AM
Here's a scenario where they input my name and body, and I show up, and hang out with Wolverine, and umm... stuff.

Yeah. :)

-Æ-
08-17-2005, 01:31 AM
^ LOL, but thats just to un-realistic due to XMen movie status!


Anyway,
I wouldn't mind seeing that type of training scenario, also it would be cool to see Beast and Wolveriner running amuck in some Jungle warfare type action in the danger room!

JustABill
08-17-2005, 01:31 AM
I don't understand the whole World War 2 thing with Kitty and Bobby, but ah, at least it's still in there. It'd be awesome, if it was in the end of the movie too, with say Wolverine and Cykes (hopeful not vaporized Cykes) fighting side by side with Storm, taking on gigantic Sentinels, since they are now released onto the whole mutant world. =O!!!

newwaveboy87
08-17-2005, 02:09 AM
dont care whose involved in the scene as long as we get one. i'm that desparate for it.

Avalanche
08-17-2005, 06:00 AM
They're speculating that the danger room is going to be cut, again. I hope not. A WWII scene might not be the most original way to use the room, but it could still turn out to be interesting.

Octoberist
08-17-2005, 06:03 AM
I doubt that the Danger Room will be cut out. It's a way for us to witness the mutant powers by full force, esp if it deals with the younger X-People.

aaron
08-17-2005, 06:05 AM
and now theyve got the higher budget, it should be attainable.

Retroman
08-17-2005, 06:17 AM
I can't wait to see the Danger Room. More than half set was built back when Bryan Singer was in charge. The whole thing was conceptualized, storyboarded and previsualized. They even shot a lead up scene with Hugh Jackman and released a trailer featuring it BUT(!!) Fox decided to cut it (like the sentinels and beast) because it cost too much money. Singer and Guy Dyas were obviously very disappointed when this happened.

Here's composer/editor John Ottman recollection of what happened:

Apprehensions

For months I knew it was coming. Everyday was a countdown to the departure from Los Angeles to Vancouver for filming and editing X2. I felt as if I may be boarding a plane to some prison island with hard labor and whips. Finally came the date, around June 15, 2002. But then I thought, "Hell, maybe it won't be all that bad." Whenever starting a project for Bryan as both editor and composer, I always tell myself that somehow in about a year, I'll be sitting at the final dub stage mixing the sound onto a final edited film and integrating a score that has yet to be conceived. Of course, I always follow up that thought immediately with a panic attack, "There's no way! There just isn't. How's this ever going to get done?!" But I soon regain my composure and make a point never to forget that moment, so that when the day arrives a year later, I can recognize it in appreciation of having made it through. Anyhow, I arrived in the truly beautiful Vancouver airport, which is so clean and modern you can eat off the floors. Here's to airport taxes! I arrived on a very hot (and always beautiful) day, and was driven to the building which housed the production offices for X2. Just as I walked in, a fiery production meeting had just wrapped up where the danger room had, as is well known now, been cut from the script. Clearly there had been an explosion I just missed and sort of saw the debris and war-torn faces around the office. "Oh boy, here we go," I thought.
Source: http://www.johnottman.com/projects/features/xmen2/thoughts.html

X2 Danger Room trailer - Hi-Res: http://www.cinemovies.fr/medias/ba/x2_teaser_m.mov
Lo-res: http://www.cinemovies.fr/medias/ba/x2_teaser_p.mov

Retroman
08-17-2005, 06:22 AM
COUNTINGDOWN.COM have the storyboards of the cut Danger Room sequence in X-Men 2.
http://www.countingdown.com/movies/2756437/multimedia

Theres more in the ART OF X2. A book i'd recommend to anyone.

Electrix
08-17-2005, 06:23 AM
I still get chills down my spine watching that...

I am so glad the Danger Room wasnt in X2. Simply because it would be all about Wolverine and thats not X-Men is about.

aaron
08-17-2005, 06:24 AM
me too.

aaron
08-17-2005, 06:27 AM
i also just looked at that cyclops - juggernaut conflcit storyboard again.

what did we think about that being for x3?

Retroman
08-17-2005, 06:34 AM
i also just looked at that cyclops - juggernaut conflcit storyboard again.

what did we think about that being for x3?
The artist still has it on his site. So i assume/think that scene was cut from the film. It's been on the web for over a month if was still in the movie i can't see him keeping it on his site.

Back to your question - The scene looks like it takes place at a very cold location. Possibly Alkali Lake? :confused:

aaron
08-17-2005, 06:36 AM
maybe. looks like ruined buildings in the background, although that could be the wall that collapsed.

http://images.countingdown.com/images/countdowns/movies/2756437/1011/3750040_main.jpg

Odin's Lapdog
08-17-2005, 06:39 AM
i wish for the danger room to be reminiscent of the one used in x-men evolution in its first appearance and then move on to hologram usage in future films...

i was highly disappointed when the logan danger room scene viewed in the graphic novel of x2 was replaced with a crappy talk with robert drake instead..

what a let down...

:(

Lightning Strykez!
08-17-2005, 08:39 AM
I don't think we're going to get it this time. There simply isn't enough time for it with all the other plots going on.

aaron
08-17-2005, 08:40 AM
maybe, do u think something could be done for when the 3.5 dvd comes out?

Retroman
08-17-2005, 08:41 AM
^^That would be such a waste. The set is virtually ready and waiting.

Mister Sinister
08-17-2005, 08:41 AM
maybe. looks like ruined buildings in the background, although that could be the wall that collapsed.

http://images.countingdown.com/images/countdowns/movies/2756437/1011/3750040_main.jpg
Cyke's mouth in the second pic reminds me of Marlon Brando in The Godfather.

EnSabahNur
08-17-2005, 09:16 AM
wow i forgot what the thread origionaly was about but it seem to have turned into the cyke/juggs storyboard conversation....

TNC9852002
08-17-2005, 10:00 AM
lol,..and notice who started it.. :p

It's kinda hard to say whether the Danger Room will fit in or not..

We know a good deal of a couple of the scenes that are supposed to take place in the movie, yet we're unaware of how much time will be distributed among them..I think itf anything, the determining factor would be the budget of the movie...

-TNC

EnSabahNur
08-17-2005, 10:05 AM
i think the most logical dangerroom scene for this movie would be xavier showing beast through the lower levels of the mansion and bringing him into the danger room observation area and the audiance not knowing where they are and xavier being like "And this is the DAnger room" and it zooms in showing smaller characters training in the danger room so that one day they too will become xmen, it could show shadowcat, colossus, cypher, multiple man, dazzler etc.

wolverine&rogue
08-19-2005, 03:26 PM
I'd like to see Wolverine teaching Rouge some moves because she definitely needs to do more.

X-Maniac
08-19-2005, 03:31 PM
We need the Danger Room to explain why some mutants finally get to be what we have expected --- Storm finally flying etc. After the events of X1 and X2, Xavier will have seen the need for combat training to hone the X-Men's powers. Then we can justifiably see Storm flying and not easily getting kicked to crap (as she was by Toad), Rogue being confident and not continually bursting into tears, and maybe even Iceman icing up! Go Danger Room!

Retroman
09-06-2005, 06:33 AM
DANGER ROOM - COMICS BIO

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/1883/dangerroomcontrol0jd.jpg
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/937/dangerwarroom2ya.jpg

The main training center for the X-Men, located three levels down in their basement. The original Danger Room had simple and complex mechanical obstacles and tests that were used by the team to hone their powers. After meeting the Shi'ar and helping Lilandra to regain her throne (the first time), the Danger Room was refitted with advanced Shi'ar technology, which allows it to create almost any scenario and setting imaginable. It can even create simalcrums of people, as well as smells and sounds. A combination of advanced animatronics and forcefields gives the holograms a realistic feel, and allows the X-Men to prepare for almost any eventuality. During Operation: Zero Tolerance the Danger Room was picked clean, so it was not in use for a while. However, when Professor X returned the Danger Room was refurbished and is operational again.


http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/2231/dangerroomcomics1op.jpg
X-Men training in the Danger Room in the comics.


Sources: http://www.mutanthigh.com/tech/dangerroom.html
http://p200.ezboard.com/fxmendarkevolutionsrpgfrm78
http://therealx-men.tripod.com/thewarroom.htm

Retroman
09-06-2005, 06:34 AM
X-MEN(2000) DANGER ROOM - Conceptual Art
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/61/wolverinetraininginthedangerro.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/61/wolverinetraininginthedangerro.jpg


X2 (2003) DANGER ROOM - Conceptual Art
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/5755/rogueandxavierindangerroomcont.jpg


X2(2003) DANGER ROOM - Storyboards
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9730/wolverineentersdangerroom9fv.jpghttp://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8284/wolverinepreparingforthedanger.jpg

X2(2003) DANGER ROOM - Animatics
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4812/dangerroomanimatic7ii.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/6939/dangerroomanimatic29jp.jpg

Source: Countingdown.com, X2 DVD and The Art Of X2.

Retroman
09-06-2005, 06:34 AM
X2(2003) DANGER ROOM - Set Construction in 2002
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7296/dangerroomsetconstructionx21jq.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/496/dangerroomsetconstructionx227i.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8119/dangerroomsetconstructionx230y.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8259/dangerroomsetconstructionx247j.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/5396/dangerroomsetconstructionx258u.jpg

Images courtesy of the X2 DVD

Retroman
09-06-2005, 06:35 AM
X2(2003) Deleted Scene - Wolverine wonders around and finds the Danger Room
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/6942/screenshot379ry.png

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/3897/screenshot407jf.png

Source: http://www.wolverineandrogue.com/x2media/x2screencaps.php

NOTE: Scene was replaced with a chat with Bobby.


The X2 DANGER ROOM Trailer (Save As): http://www.cinemovies.fr/medias/ba/x2_teaser_m.mov

Retroman
09-06-2005, 06:35 AM
THE DANGER ROOM QOUTES


X-MEN(2000) Related

X-Men Franchise Producer Lauren Shuler-Donner talks to Chud - June, 2001
S.J.R.: What about the rumor that there's going to be a Danger Room sequence in this?

Lauren: We're going to fight for a Danger Room sequence. We felt robbed last time. Source: http://www.chud.com/news/june01/june13saturn2.php3



X-Men Franchise Producer Lauren Shuler-Donner talks to IGN - June 15, 2001
Smilin' Jack Ruby soldiered on, asking Shuler Donner what new characters and settings X-Fans might expect in the sequel. "There will be Sentinels. ... Beast, probably. We love Beast. I'd like to see him ... We're going to fight for a Danger Room sequence. We felt robbed last time." (Due to the first X-Men's relatively small budget, the original script's planned Danger Room scene had to be scrapped.) So when will the cast and crew reunite in Toronto to film X-Men 2? "We'll probably end up shooting in March. That'll give us enough time to prep it and then we'll have enough time to get it out by the end of the year." Source: http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/300/300581p1.html



X-Men & X2 Producer and Co-Writer Tom DeSanto talks to Countingdown - September 25, 2003
"Wolverine is arrogant and doesn't want to put on a costume, so when the flamethrower comes up for Cyclops, who's smarter than Wolverine, he's just nailing the room, he's just acing it. And poor Logan, first the battering ram comes out and his shoe flies off, then the flamethrower, and his shirt's on fire...He's trying to put it out and take his shirt off, and then this guillatine comes out, and it just became this whole sequence which explained the costumes. So the Danger Room shuts down, and Logan's in there, his hair is half-singed, he's just in tatters." Source: http://www.countingdown.com/movies/2756437?item_id=3214677


X2 (2003) and X3 Related
X-Men & X2 Director Bryan Singer talks to Countingdown.com - January 7, 2002
“If I had a dollar for every rumor...I could have a danger room,” Source: http://www.countingdown.com/movies/1394/movieinfo/production?item_id=439789



X2 Composer/Editor John Ottman talks on his official site - June 2002
I arrived on a very hot (and always beautiful) day, and was driven to the building which housed the production offices for X2. Just as I walked in, a fiery production meeting had just wrapped up where the danger room had, as is well known now, been cut from the script. Clearly there had been an explosion I just missed and sort of saw the debris and war-torn faces around the office. "Oh boy, here we go," I thought. Source: http://www.johnottman.com/projects/features/xmen2/thoughts.html



Marvel Studios Producer Kevin Feige talks to Wizard Magazine - July, 2002
Wizard magazine reveals that Bryan Singer wants to keep two intense and visual effects-heavy scenes in X-Men 2, one involving the X-Men's famed Danger Room. "Where it sits in the script right now, it's like a chicken with an eight-inch neck," laments Marvel Studios' Kevin Feige. "Some stuff's going to have to go. Honestly, [at this point], there's a lot still up in the air." Source: http://www.countingdown.com/movies/1394?item_id=995359



X-Men & X2 Director Bryan Singer talks to Comics Continuum at Comic Con - August 5, 2002
Is he doing anything with Juggernaut or the Danger Room? "No, no. I love Juggernaut actually and I think the Danger Room is cool, but because of the story … We dabbled with ideas and Danger Room designs, but not in this picture." Source: http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0208/05/xpanel.htm



X2 Production Designer Guy Dyas talks to Press at X2 Set Visit - 2002
Press: What was your favorite set piece to work on?

Dyas: Bryan will probably kill me for saying this, but it probably was the Danger Room. I think we had really come up with something I hadn't seen before. I think it was going to be the absolute perfect connection between set design and computer graphics. What that set was going to do was going to be phenomenal. The sequence and animatics we created were phenomenal. I've seen what the Danger Room was like in the comic books, but thought we could do better than that - with all due respect. I went and looked at the Fox archives and what had existed was a big square room with a window at the end...every single panel or square in the room conceals a weapon or a projectile or some kind of area that lifts or lowers. We made a really intense animatic. I'm almost sure that Bryan will keep it in his back pocket for a later installment. Source: http://www.ugo.com/channels/filmTv/features/xmen2/xmen2design_2.asp



X-Men & X2 Director Bryan Singer and X2 Production Designer Guy Dyas talk to the Comics Continuum - December 6, 2002
The Danger Room was originally scripted to be in the X-Men sequel, but director Bryan Singer said it won't be in the film.

"I think the Danger Room is cool," Singer said. "We dabbled with ideas and Danger Room designs, but not in this picture."

Production designer Guy Dyas showed the online press some designs of the Danger Room during a recent press tour. "It's not in the film, but it's here to look at," Dyas said.

Sources told The Continuum that in earlier versions of the script Wolverine is in the Danger Room when Stryker's troops attack of the X-Mansion. In the Danger Room, after choosing "Real Danger" mode, he was to have faced columns sprouting from the floor and flying projectiles.

"Everything changed in the script, so we had to go back to square one," Dyas said of the design process. "There was a lot of that. So have tremendous amounts of artwork that's going to go back to Fox archives." Source: http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0212/06/index.htm



X-Men & X2 Director Bryan Singer talks to CFQ Magazine - March 18, 2003
I love Beast as a character, and I'd like to have him in the next movie. He will have to be done with CG, because makeup would just take too much time. I'd also love to do something with the Danger Room, but that didn't work out. Source: http://www.countingdown.com/movies/2756437/movieinfo/director?item_id=2982492



X-Men & X2 Director Bryan Singer talks to Wizard X-Men Special Edition Magazine - April 13, 2003
The Danger Room: "Believe me, if the idea had worked really well...if the idea of the Danger Room has worked in [X2], it'd be in the movie," explains Singer. "You choose your battles in terms of money and time. And it's something that perhaps can be explored in a third film. It would be a lot of fun." Source: http://www.countingdown.com/movies/2756437/movieinfo/production?item_id=3028925



X-Men Franchise Producer Ralph Winter talks to Comics Continuum - April 16, 2003
"We certainly want to have an X-Men 3," Winter said. "We're saving sets, we're saving pieces that we didn't get to use like the Danger Room. Yeah, we're talking about it and hopefully this movie performs and we'll see ourselves doing this again." Source: http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0304/16/



X-Men & X2 Director Bryan Singer talks to CFQ - May, 2003
I love Beast as a character, and I'd like to have him in the next movie. He will have to be done with CG, because makeup would just take too much time. I'd also love to do something with the Danger Room, but that didn't work out. We built a pretty big set of it and had some plans for it, but it never fully factored into the story - we builta big section, while the bulk of it would have been created in the computer, but it would have cost $5 million to do this sequence that didn't really have a specific function. I didn't fully see how all of it would completely work - we had ideas and did some animatics, but everything's a battle. On the first film we tried to make a $110 million movie for $75 million. This time we're trying to make a $150 million movie for $120 million. There's always trading going on, and I still feel like I'm making THE USUAL SUSPECTS for $6 million. The day you start saying "We've got room to spare", well, the challenge is over. Source: http://talk.trekweb.com/articles/2003/05/04/1052084957.html



X-Men Franchise Producers Lauren Shuler-Donner and Ralph Winter talks Countingdown.com - May 7, 2003
[B]Q: Given more time and more money, what would you have liked to have seen added to this movie?

Donner: Well, we created the Danger Room, we wanted to see the Danger Room, in fact we built it...

Winter: ...and we're saving it...

Donner: Yeah, we're saving it for the next one...and Beast is a character that with time and money, we would incorporate his story into the movie...

CountingDown: So based on those comments, are you optimistic that some of those things, such as Beast and the Danger Room, would hopefully come about in these films at some point?

Winter: We are optimistic, we're holding stuff, and anxious for this movie to perform, and for the studio to agree with us that we want to make another one, so yeah, were feeling good about it. Source: http://www.countingdown.com/movies/2756437/movieinfo/production?item_id=3046799



X2 Production Designer Guy Dyas talks to XMF - 2003
Dyas: I think so, the designs for the Sentinels and the Danger Room have been carefully archived for the next film. The Sentinels were almost fully conceptualized and taken in 3D while the Danger Room was hald built on a stage up in Vancouver. We tried to incoporate these things into X2, but there was just too much going on in the film already and had we added all of the scenes that we wanted to add, the film would have ended up being 4 hours long...So look out for the Danger Room sometime down the line

X2M: The Danger Room. How much of the set was built before being cut? I read in an article that you were sad to see it not get filmed.

Dyas: I think that it was about half built. I kept some photos becuase it looked really impressive, even at that stage. I was sad to see that scene go because I collaborated with Adam Kubert, (the genious comic book artist who draws Wolverine on a regular basis), on staging that scene inside of the set. Adam did some original boards for us and they clearly showed how amazing the whole scene was going to be. Wolverine is one of my favorite characters, and this would have been his big moment, his time to kick ass on the big screen like no one else before. Source: http://www.xmenfilms.net/exclusive/guydyas.html



X2 Production Designer Guy Dyas talks to CountingDown.com - May, 2003

About the Danger Room:
This is a set that was fully conceptualized and was going to be a key moment in X2 because it was going to allow us to witness one of Wolverine's training sessions. The room's overall shape was oval, but the control room from which Xavier can monitor the progress of each session was going to be mobile. So basically the fight was going to be very dynamic because the Danger Room's weapons were going to be dynamic and our point of view from the control room was going to be dynamic. I am a big fan of Adam Kubert's work and he's very cool because he did a story board sequence for me showing Wolverine in action and based on my Danger Room design. We built half of the enormous set on stage, however due to time constraints the overall sequence needed to be cut from the final script. It was particularly sad for me because so much development, design and even construction effort went into the set, but ultimately I think that it is better to save it for a future film so as to be able to feature it fully. With a scene taking place in a space like the Danger Room you just don't want to have to compromise and I think that it will be a big part of the next film. Source: http://www.countingdown.com/features?feature_id=3037579



X-Men Franchise Producer Lauren Shuler-Donner talks to Variety - November 25, 2003
After "Constantine," Shuler Donner plans a short break from comics to do the drama "The Secret Life of Bees" and then is back for "X3." For the third installment, she wants to include a loquacious, blue-furred scientist called the Beast and a sequence in the "X-Men's" training center, the Danger Room. Source: http://www.countingdown.com/movies/2756437?item_id=3270585




X-MEN 3 (2006) Related

IGN Filmforce - March 22, 2005
IGN FilmForce's secret X3 source advised us that Anna Paquin is signed to return as Rogue and that the Danger Room will finally be seen. Source: http://filmforce.ign.com/x-men/articles/597/597963p1.html



AICN Script Review - June 13, 2005
On the cool side of things (both literally and figuratively), Bobby and Kitty both share time in none other than the Danger Room. It’s a relatively short sequence, and it’s not all that well-written (of all the things you could do in something as neat as the Danger Room, why have a bunch of bullets flying at two mutants during a World War II setting?!?), but at least it’s given a nod in this film instead of completely forgotten about in the others. Source: http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20443

NocturnalMadman
09-06-2005, 07:44 AM
I didn't realise it had been built for x2 and dropped AGAIN. Only knew about the first film.

The designs look cool, I think WWII is a bit of a waste butchuck Colossus in the scene and it'd be better...

Mr Sensitive
09-06-2005, 09:46 AM
I liked very much those designs by Kubert and all this amazing conceptual art, Retro.

I really hope they use the Danger Room in X3, the holographic training has always been a great idea.

spidey207
09-06-2005, 07:36 PM
As stated earlier, It would help the plot, not take away from it by showing the excellerated jump in powers by the different X-men.

Retroman
09-08-2005, 02:58 PM
As stated earlier, It would help the plot, not take away from it by showing the excellerated jump in powers by the different X-men.
True :up:

JustABill
09-08-2005, 03:19 PM
Wow. I had totally forgotten about that Danger Room Teaser Trailer.

Doomed_hero
09-08-2005, 03:23 PM
Still think it would be cool if the movie started off with the end of X2 where Jean is abot to die. It is all the same except cyclops who is doing something different. the n jean dies and you here "Senario fails."

GNR
09-08-2005, 11:26 PM
Still think it would be cool if the movie started off with the end of X2 where Jean is abot to die. It is all the same except cyclops who is doing something different. the n jean dies and you here "Senario fails."

That has potential to be a good scene.I would hate to Cyke go thru that though.The guy's gonna be an emotional wreck!Poor guy.

Will
09-09-2005, 05:57 AM
I'm really hoping The Danger Room makes in into the 3rd. If Gambit isn't in at least put that in there.

ichorinmyveins
09-09-2005, 06:18 AM
I hope the opening will be in danger room.

Mimic317
09-10-2005, 05:38 AM
The danger room could be pretty sweet if done right. It could be a scene, like in the Ultimates, where Logan goes nuts berserker raging and tearing apart the Xmen one by one. But the twist could be, he freezes when he sees a hologram of Jean... :eek:
http://leadsalad.com/albums/album39/wolverine.sized.jpg

Retroman
09-30-2005, 11:46 AM
How come no ones talking about the danger room?

fazeforce
09-30-2005, 12:28 PM
Retroman - I know that's its been stated countless times on these boards, but I gotta say it again - YOU ROCK. You're a friggin' machine!

Anywho - a danger room sequence would be cool - but I gotta tell you, if it's included as just an arbitrary scene to just show it off and doesn't do anything to advance the film - even exposition from the characters during the scene - I don't know that I'd want it to be in the film.

The cool thing for me would be seeing the X-Men use their powers - and I'd rather see them doing it against a real opponent, not something shooting darts at them.

That said - I think they are going to give us a danger room sequence in X3 - they know the fans want it.

Captain Zero
09-30-2005, 08:11 PM
RETROMAN - gotta second the props! Rad pics & history.

Here's hoping we get the danger room. Don't really care if it's integral to the plot, altho I like the idea of some newer mutants having chance to shine for just a sec, outside of the main flow of the story -- like that brief shot of Colussus in X2 going metal -- that was killer!

My dream would be a danger room of Wolvie stalking the Hand through quiet streets of Kyoto, but that's not gonna happen. Still just a sucker for that old graphic novel.

Retroman
10-01-2005, 05:47 AM
No problem guys.:up:

I agree. They could have some really cool scenes with the other mutants showing off their powers. It would also explain how they are so well trained for combat.

borinquenknight
11-19-2005, 11:19 AM
i think the most logical dangerroom scene for this movie would be xavier showing beast through the lower levels of the mansion and bringing him into the danger room observation area and the audiance not knowing where they are and xavier being like "And this is the DAnger room" and it zooms in showing smaller characters training in the danger room so that one day they too will become xmen, it could show shadowcat, colossus, cypher, multiple man, dazzler etc.

Someone needs to give you a writing job on this film. This sounds great to me.

GNR
11-19-2005, 11:28 AM
It wouldn't make sense for Beast to come back and have no idea what the Danger Room is.Beast was one of the originals,and if anything,it should be mentioned that he had a hand in building it and making modifications to it over the years.

If anything,it should be Colossus and Shadowcat seeing the Danger Room for the first time along with the audience.

Pauluz
12-05-2005, 09:32 PM
in the heat of battle would be silly, unless they're in the Danger Room! :xmen:

Neto Magnus
12-05-2005, 09:33 PM
Danger! Will Robinson, Danger!

Doomed Hero Rising
12-05-2005, 09:36 PM
There in the danger room

LoGaN's RuNNer
12-05-2005, 09:36 PM
in the heat of battle would be silly, unless they're in the Danger Room! :xmen:
They are in the danger room.:)

the a1ant
12-05-2005, 09:37 PM
I freakin' love that scene.

aaron
12-05-2005, 09:38 PM
what do u make of the red laser beams in the danger room scene ant?

aaron
12-05-2005, 09:42 PM
yeah sorry

BatJeff7786
12-05-2005, 09:45 PM
How do you know it's in the danger room?

the a1ant
12-05-2005, 09:46 PM
what do u make of the red laser beams in the danger room scene ant?

No clue :p

aaron
12-05-2005, 09:47 PM
No clue :p
hehe ok...ive pmed u btw

MaskedManJRK
12-05-2005, 09:47 PM
Logan smokin' a stogie in the middle of a war just screams BADASS. :wolverine

Pauluz
12-05-2005, 09:48 PM
I see it as this, the new door opens, what does it lead to (Xavier has a surprise for them):

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/35/cap0011qz.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2575/cap0038yx.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2296/cap0087qx.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9537/cap0667db.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5041/cap0450dh.jpg

'Oh man, another one of those roboty thing thingies'

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/438/cap0462ea.jpg

'Ah screw it, I'm taking a break'

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8995/cap0788dw.jpg

'Tovarisch, Six Flags aint got **** on me'



Watch closely, they are the only ones in the those 'Danger Room' scenes!

Neto Magnus
12-05-2005, 09:50 PM
I think Wolverine just stumbles in the room unknowingly while smoking a cigar and storm saves him.

aaron
12-05-2005, 09:51 PM
red light in the background?

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9537/cap0667db.jpg

Antonello Blueberry
12-05-2005, 09:54 PM
And why isn't Cyke in the Danger Room? Because he's already dead.

aaron
12-05-2005, 09:55 PM
whats this on the left?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b45/kol_lover/stormdangerroom.jpg

batman 833
12-05-2005, 10:04 PM
Yes Iam sure they're in the danger room, my only concern is that the fastball special will be done only for practice, and he probably will not do it again during a real fight damn, but there's clearly gonna be a huge war a real one because of the shots of the brootherhood, landing on all the debris and ruins of the fallen bridge, there's where the big battle between the x-men and the brootherhood will take place, it will be epic.

LoGaN's RuNNer
12-05-2005, 10:04 PM
Just did a search for the dangerroom thread and I couldnt find it, maybe its pushed back really really far.

Mic
12-05-2005, 10:06 PM
And why isn't Cyke in the Danger Room? Because he's already dead.Agreed
I also think the tdanger rooms at the END of the film.
With the NEW team training sort of.

BHD
12-06-2005, 01:36 AM
The scene when wolverine and storm are surrounded by fire and lasers looks an awful lot like sentinel action. Slow down the clip where storm pushes wolverine out of the way, something seems to step on the car behind them, not fall. This was probably mentioned before, but I got excited thinking about it!

BHD
12-06-2005, 01:38 AM
or of course it could be the danger room.....

HighVoltage
12-06-2005, 02:08 AM
Yes. It´s The Danger Room.

:up::up::xmen::wolverine

Advanced Dark
12-06-2005, 02:12 AM
Maybe Beast programmed in the sentinels for training after seeing what Worthington was up to. A little prep for X4 which despite some stupid journalists say...is happening.

Specter313
12-06-2005, 02:16 AM
The scene when wolverine and storm are surrounded by fire and lasers looks an awful lot like sentinel action. Slow down the clip where storm pushes wolverine out of the way, something seems to step on the car behind them, not fall. This was probably mentioned before, but I got excited thinking about it!

I looked at it, and it's a bunch of crates. You can see them all on a platform with some string tied around them. It's likely that Wolverine was doing is usual of standing around to just watch, but didn't pay attention to that stuff haning over his head, and when the rope broke, Storm noticed and got him out of the way.

theJust
12-06-2005, 02:17 AM
i think its sentinels.
it is the danger room, we know that.
there wont be an X4 unless this one breaks incredible records.

Dr Doom
12-06-2005, 02:25 AM
you guys are seeing things that are clearly not there. slow down the trailer and you can clearly see it's a bunch of crates.

HOWEVER, THE SCENE IN THE DANGER ROOM WHERE STORM IS FLYING DOWN, IN THE BACKGROUND YOU SEE A RED BEAM IN THE SKY. SOME SAY THIS IS CYCLOPS, BUT WHEN YOU SLOW IT DOWN IT IS CLEAR THAT THE BEAM COMES FROM HIGH IN THE SKY TOWARDS THE GROUND. THAT, MAY BE A SENTINEL.

The Weather God
12-06-2005, 02:36 AM
I am starting to think the sentinals are in there take a look at this pic

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/TheMummyMan/vlcsnap-110426.png

and check this out from the source: movies.go.com
I quote

X-MEN 3 FACTS

The plot is still nebulous, but it may have something to do with the fate of Dr. Jean Grey or an army of mutant-hunting robots set loose to rid the world of the mutant menace.

Octoberist
12-06-2005, 02:42 AM
Interesting..

Nell2ThaIzzay
12-06-2005, 02:47 AM
I have a feeling Sentinels have to be in, and they aren't giving it away in the teaser.

After all, hasn't it been confirmed that Bill Duke is indeed playing Bolivar Trask?

Sentinels HAVE to be in.

Octoberist
12-06-2005, 02:49 AM
Or it could be long beams of kineticly charged playing cards!

AgentEnforcer
12-06-2005, 02:55 AM
I'm willing to bet the Sentinals will be in the Danger Room. If you look at the original concepts for the Sentinals from X1, it looks like they were more 'Danger Room' versions of Sentinals...

Octoberist
12-06-2005, 02:55 AM
dont you mean X2?

AgentEnforcer
12-06-2005, 03:00 AM
I could have sworn the concepts were easter eggs on the X1 DVD... yeah sure. whichever one they came from.

Darth Elektra
12-06-2005, 03:02 AM
Sentinels had better be in X4!

WorthyStevens
12-06-2005, 03:02 AM
Or it could be long beams of kineticly charged playing cards!

Let's not start that up :p

Nell2ThaIzzay
12-06-2005, 03:03 AM
Or it could be long beams of kineticly charged playing cards!

*insertTNC'sheadexplodeanimatedimagehere*

RedIsNotBlue
12-06-2005, 03:05 AM
There HAS to be at least ONE sentinel.

Mic
12-06-2005, 05:49 AM
red light in the background?

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9537/cap0667db.jpg

OMG Look its an exploding playing card in the background!!!!1

:P
And why isn't Cyke in the Danger Room? Because he's already dead.Agreed
I also think the tanger rooms at the END of the film.
With the NEW team training sort of.

Nell2ThaIzzay
12-06-2005, 05:56 AM
And why isn't Cyke in the Danger Room? Because he's already dead.

No, it's because he's at Alkali Lake.

He just lost the woman that he loves, I think he's probably a little too emotionally distraught to worry about honing his skills in the Danger Room.

Cyclops might not have a lot to do in this movie, but I highly doubt he will die.

SingItWithMeNow
12-06-2005, 05:58 AM
RIGHT in
to THE
DANGER ZONE

Mic
12-06-2005, 06:07 AM
No, it's because he's at Alkali Lake.

He just lost the woman that he loves, I think he's probably a little too emotionally distraught to worry about honing his skills in the Danger Room.

Cyclops might not have a lot to do in this movie, but I highly doubt he will die.
But as far as we know, wolverine is at Alkali lake at the SAME time.
So why is he in the dangerroom?

roach
12-06-2005, 07:23 AM
I imagine at the start of the movie Cyke is taking a leave of absense. I also imagine that the Dangeroom scene looks to be toward the beginning of the movie. It looks like Logan just came back and Storm invited him for the Danger room.Why break up the rhythm of a movie by having another action sequence right after the clymax?????

Roughneck
12-06-2005, 07:29 AM
whats this on the left?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b45/kol_lover/stormdangerroom.jpg


The big thing looks like a Peice of a broken building. But them Lasers are coming from somewhere.

Mr. Socko
12-06-2005, 09:07 AM
Will the Danger room be in X3?

Dr Doom
12-06-2005, 09:10 AM
DID YOU WATCH THE TEASER?

Dr Doom
12-06-2005, 09:10 AM
DID YOU WATCH THE TEASER?

GNR
12-06-2005, 05:42 PM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c239/ZeppelinCometh/dangerroom.jpg

What do you guys think?

aaron
12-06-2005, 05:44 PM
Hmmmm we talking sentinels or something beast designed?

Pauluz
12-06-2005, 05:44 PM
I can't make anything of it, what part was it?

GNR
12-06-2005, 05:45 PM
The object where the blue light is coming from.

Xfanfan
12-06-2005, 05:47 PM
You know what since they havent even started post production yet maybe after post production they will make that robot looking machine be an actual Sentinel. Maybe that is how they will include a Sentinel, through a danger room scenerio which would be cool because that way they dont have to actually have a storyline with them yet we still get to see a team fighting a Sentinel through a Danger Room scenario.

Xfanfan

GNR
12-06-2005, 05:47 PM
It's when Storm pulls Logan out of the way,it's really fast.

GNR
12-06-2005, 05:47 PM
It's when Storm pulls Logan out of the way,it's really fast.

GNR
12-06-2005, 05:49 PM
You know what since they havent even started post production yet maybe after post production they will make that robot looking machine be an actual Sentinel. Maybe that is how they will include a Sentinel, through a danger room scenerio which would be cool because that way they dont have to actually have a storyline with them yet we still get to see a team fighting a Sentinel through a Danger Room scenario.

Xfanfan

Possibly,notice the concrete block being dropped on the car as well.This is probably going to get replaced with something in post-prod.

The Infernal
12-06-2005, 05:51 PM
The object where the blue light is coming from.

Just looks like a search light on top of a wall to me.

aaron
12-06-2005, 05:51 PM
so why do they use different things in teasers if they replace them in post-production, and is this dne purely by using cgi?

liverlips
12-06-2005, 06:03 PM
When that Wolverine vs. Omega Red/Colossus vs. Juggernaut spoiler hit on xmenfilms, it also described a scene where Storm pulls Wolverine out of the way of a Sentinel's foot crashing down on a car. I thought the scoop was debunked, but maybe there was some truth there?

aaron
12-06-2005, 06:09 PM
Yeah does sound like it so some truth to rickys s***

The Apocalypse
12-06-2005, 06:15 PM
It doesn't look like a Sentinal from what I know one looks like. The thing that Storm pulls Logan away from is very square doesn't look like a foot.

vibeke_T
12-06-2005, 06:17 PM
i suppose post production magic could take place

aaron
12-06-2005, 06:24 PM
re-post

So why do they use different things in teasers if they replace them in post-poduction, and is this dnoe purely by using cgi?

N_z0
12-06-2005, 06:26 PM
It's the concrete thing that they used as a load-bearing object to tie the harnesses on to during the Worthington Labs filming labelled "PHX". They'll more than likely fix that in post or the thump might be too fast no one in the audience will notice that it's just concrete.

the a1ant
12-06-2005, 06:30 PM
Look at the scene (1:24) where Wolverine is being thrown into the air in slo-mo. He's headed for some bright red-pink flare light. Hmm? It would be such a classic scene if he was being hurled towards a Danger Room-created Sentinel and trashed it!

Like Xfan said...a good place to put a Sentinel, would be in a Danger Room senario, so they wouldn't have to go through all that stuff. And since apparently the Danger Room is creating this senario, it seems like it could create a Sentinel one?

Seems like this Danger Room isn't what they were originally going to go for with X2 (big room with moving metal blocks and lasers). This looks like there's shi-ar technology going on in there :eek:

aaron
12-06-2005, 06:42 PM
How would they know to put sentinels in the danger room scenario then if there wasnt anything happening with them in ways of a storyline, and if they didnt exist

Avalanche
12-06-2005, 06:44 PM
I thought the Danger Room sequence was set to be a 'warzone' of sorts? I certainly got that flavour from the early shots of the X-Men in the trailer. Would a Sentinel have any place in that scenario?

aaron
12-06-2005, 06:44 PM
Look at the scene (1:24) where Wolverine is being thrown into the air in slo-mo. He's headed for some bright red-pink flare light. Hmm?

f***, he is!

Weadazoid
12-06-2005, 06:48 PM
how do we know those shot.. the war like shot are actual danger room shots????

aaron
12-06-2005, 06:51 PM
because...first shot is a door, second is them heading into the room

wolverine smoking cigar....

N_z0
12-06-2005, 06:56 PM
Those who visited the sets here in Vancouver and consequently being the first to see the teaser have suggested that they're in the Danger Room in this scene. The first sequence of the teaser (walking through the X-mansion basement halls) seems to suggest that the same characters (Storm, Logan, Colossus, Iceman, Kitty sans Rogue :confused: ) that were in that sequence just came from a session in the Danger room. Seems like Kitty's exhausted.

I'm actually against showing the Sentinels in the Danger Room now, especially after the near-confirmation (?) that Bill Dukes is playing Trask. It'll be very questionable for the X-men/Danger Room to know what the Sentinels will look like, much less that Sentinels are in the works.

Weadazoid
12-06-2005, 07:24 PM
Those who visited the sets here in Vancouver and consequently being the first to see the teaser have suggested that they're in the Danger Room in this scene. The first sequence of the teaser (walking through the X-mansion basement halls) seems to suggest that the same characters (Storm, Logan, Colossus, Iceman, Kitty sans Rogue :confused: ) that were in that sequence just came from a session in the Danger room. Seems like Kitty's exhausted.

I'm actually against showing the Sentinels in the Danger Room now, especially after the near-confirmation (?) that Bill Dukes is playing Trask. It'll be very questionable for the X-men/Danger Room to know what the Sentinels will look like, much less that Sentinels are in the works.


but teasers..and trailers rarely follow any kind of timeline.........


Something tells me those ain't danger room shots

GNR
12-06-2005, 07:25 PM
but teasers..and trailers rarely follow any kind of timeline.........


Something tells me those ain't danger room shots

Wolvie chilling out with a cigar while Bobby and Kitty's lives are on the line?Doubt it.

N_z0
12-06-2005, 11:44 PM
but teasers..and trailers rarely follow any kind of timeline.........


Something tells me those ain't danger room shots

And it didn't here.

The first shot is of them walking down the hall, the training session seems to be completed. The Danger room shots are shown much later in the teaser.

Oh and here's the pic i shot of the PHX concrete block during the Worthington Labs filming.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/kaeleb/2Untitled-1.jpg

TNC9852002
12-07-2005, 12:32 AM
How would they know to put sentinels in the danger room scenario then if there wasnt anything happening with them in ways of a storyline, and if they didnt exist
Yeah,..that's the main thing that's bugging about that possibility...I think they're other kinds of mechanical obstacles recreated by the Danger Room..

Oh yeah, is that your X3 wallpaper there, kol?!...That looks sweet...Can I get in on that? :D

-TNC

GNR
12-07-2005, 12:36 AM
And it didn't here.

The first shot is of them walking down the hall, the training session seems to be completed. The Danger room shots are shown much later in the teaser.

Oh and here's the pic i shot of the PHX concrete block during the Worthington Labs filming.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/kaeleb/2Untitled-1.jpg


Hmmm,those blocks were at the Worhtington site and the Bridge set???Hmmm.....

Bongo
12-07-2005, 07:55 AM
Howdy all, this is my first post here and I think it will rattle a few cages.

I'm predicting that those clips aren't from the danger room at all, and are a real-life battle vs sentinels.

Bear with me.

Firstly, what do we have supporting the danger room theory?

The door - It could just as easily be the door to the x-jet hangar or a briefing/debriefing room before or after the battle shown.

Wolvie puffing a stogie - If this is too casual for a real life or death battle, I believe the fear and intensity shown by Bobby and Kitty is too much for a simulation. Also, as mentioned previously, those 2 scenes do not necessarily occur at the same time. It could simply be a moment of badass character building (with his own movie slated for the future). If I had just gutted a sentinel, for example, I would take a brief moment to pat myself on the back. Or maybe he's feeling self-pity and distant after losing Jean for a second time. It could also be a scene from the very end of the battle, we just don't know. Teasers are often intentionally misleading and out of chronological order.

The WWII setting - I don't think it is. Any city that had just been nailed by a full scale mutant vs sentinel battle would look like that, and the car Storm pulls Logan away from is definitely not from the '40s. Check it out. I can accept that the blocks/crates would be altered to become a sentinel foot in post-production, but replacing a car would just be silly. Cars of that era were taller anyway, so it would be a poor match for digital replacement.


Now, what do I have to support my theory?

Bolivar Trask - As good a hint as we could hope for that sentinels will play some part.

References to the ultimate battle between mutant and man - Again, hard to picture without sentinels. It would be a walkover, especially with the number of mutants in the movie.

The sheer number of mutants in this movie - Large amounts of mutants suddenly makes sense if the sentinels are attempting to wipe them out. All hands on deck.

The laser beams coming down from high above.

The purple glow on Wolverine as he flies through the air towards his target.

The fastball special itself - If Logan was thrown at a small flying target he would likely miss, especially if it was moving. A sentinel however, would make a fairly easy target.

The amount of clips shown from this battle - The movie will have quite a few pretty big battles, and this one looks to play a major part. If the danger room is in the movie, I think it will play a smaller role than this battle appears to.

Sentinels in the danger room - While we don't know that they actually are sentinels, as someone has already mentioned it would make no sense to have them in the danger room if they had not been encountered in real life.

The talk of this being the final x-men movie - If you want to go out with a bang, the only other option would be Apocalypse (and I don't think that's gonna happen in X3), especially with the running theme of man vs mutant.

The "PHX" blocks - They look about the size of a sentinel's foot to me. Perfect for a placeholder.


If I was including sentinels AND the danger room, I'd keep both of them under wraps as long as I could. It's possible that both are yet to be seen.
It's all specualtion on my part but I think it fits. It also answers a lot of questions, whereas the danger room theory just seems to raise them.


Be gentle. Remember, I'm new. ;)

aaron
12-07-2005, 07:58 AM
so are these blocks uses to create the same effect as e.g. a sentinel foot, and then later replaced with cgi?

Retroman
12-07-2005, 08:12 AM
so are these blocks uses to create the same effect as e.g. a sentinel foot, and then later replaced with cgi?
Hmmm...you may have point there Kol! With Trask in the movie anything's possible now.:up:

aaron
12-07-2005, 08:15 AM
Im just wondering why they would only be in a danger room sequence though, because if they were, it would be stupid in the whole plot because how would the x-men know who and what the sentinels are without them being created by trask and having to battle them, i feel they need to be in the plot if they are to be in the danger room sequence

e.g. they fight them in the city, and they then add them to the danger room sequence in a later scene to see how they will be able to destroy them

RedIsNotBlue
12-07-2005, 06:03 PM
Im just wondering why they would only be in a danger room sequence though, because if they were, it would be stupid in the whole plot because how would the x-men know who and what the sentinels are without them being created by trask and having to battle them, i feel they need to be in the plot if they are to be in the danger room sequence

e.g. they fight them in the city, and they then add them to the danger room sequence in a later scene to see how they will be able to destroy them

Well I had an idea in another thread. The X-Men are the ones who create the Sentinels for Danger Room purposes and somehow Trask gets his hands on their technology and makes the Sentinels a reality. I think that would be cool.

Night
12-07-2005, 06:21 PM
Gosh, I haven't written anything for a while, but here is a possiblilty. Maybe, because Beast is part of the Presidential Defense Council that so is Trask? In that picture I see a black man on the opposite side of Beast, but I don't know if it's Duke or not? If it is, then he could be incharge of making sentinals. Beast already knows about sentinals openly, so he will design the Danger Room to have a Sentinal program, so that the x-men are prepared. The Sentinal would then make an appearence in the Danger Room at the beginning, then at the end of the film when the mutants and humans go to war. But the Danger Room Sequence looks like sentinals! I don't know what else it could be.
The President wont use Sentinals unless he has to, so when the mutants go to war with him, Trask will be very happy to hear that the President has no other choice but to fight back and use the Sentinal Program! What do you think? The only problem is the sentinals wouldn't be a end supriser, but that's ok. O one more thing, if you look at the block that falls onto the car that storm saves wolverine from, it's got a wire tied around it, pluse when does a block like that fall on a car, and when we already had reports of the sentinal foot smash car thing, I am pretty sure it's a sentinal. I just need a confermation.

LostSon88
12-07-2005, 06:27 PM
Maybe this is a better place to post this...

I think it's kinda funny how during the danger room sequence Logan's the only one not taking it very seriously.

The X-team's in their uniforms, dodging debris, explosions etc. treating it like a real warzone, and Logan's--dressed in his casual clothing, calmly stands around smoking a cigar as stuff blows up around him. In fact, Storm actually has to save him from a falling object b/c he's obviously not paying attention. I don't know, I just think that's really cool.

Although, it's apparant later on that he does eventually get into it ala "Fastball Special" :up:

Night
12-07-2005, 06:27 PM
Plus, i'm suprised that so many effects have been done for this movie. Think about it they are getting done with all the small stuff, so that they can work hard on something, what else? Sentinals!

Lightning Strykez!
12-07-2005, 06:30 PM
I posted this in NinjaCharm's thread, but as this is a related topic, I'll repeat my points here:

I've studied the trailer quite a bit and I've come to the following conclusion:

Sentinels will indeed make an appearance in this film.

Why do I say that? For several reasons:

*Lasers: As seen firing during Storm's decent, laser beams are raining down upon the X-Men and the trashed neighborhood around them. There is no sign of aircraft or any other source of the beams. But PURPLE laser beams are generally created by the Sentinels in the source material.

*Claws Out: Wolverine is being launched via "The Fastball Special" towards something tall--and his claws are unsheathed. Storm and the other X-Men are flanking Collosus down below. Logan's claws would not be unsheathed unless the object he was being hurled towards was a threat.


* Temporary Cement Block: If you look closely, the object that is dropped on top of the car next to Storm has cords attached to it. It was obviously hoisted and dropped--it's not "mere debris". There are also some generic numbering spraypainted on the cement blocks. That marking may double as markers for a CGI engineer.

In other words, there is no reason why a CGI Sentinel's "foot" couldn't replace that cement block. Let us remember, that the block would be necessary to create the impact for crushing the car--CGI can't create every visual realistically. In Fantastic Four, a pole was placed in front of a semi on the "Brooklyn Bridge" set, and then later, the Thing was CGI'ed in its place.

FOX may have chosen not to reveal this yet because (a) they want to keep it a surprise for now or (b) this will be accomplished in post production.

* Scoopage: Also, please recall that we had a scooper from production come through several weeks ago. That person revealed on this forum that the storyboards featured Sentinels crashing down on that vehicle. At the time, most of us dismissed that as "wishful thinking"...but the fact remains we knew about this a good two months before this trailer was released. There's something to it.

Verdict? Sentinels are in--at least for the Danger Room sequence. I doubt that they will make an appearance anywhere else in the film.

Lightning Strykez!
12-07-2005, 06:43 PM
Hmm, I just read the other comments since the trailer dropped...looks like we're all on the same page thinking the same thing. :cool::up:

YAVANNA
12-07-2005, 11:38 PM
well logan seems to be confortably sitting in the car or at least leaning on it before storm pulls him out, so whats really happening in ther? in the scene of the aisle storm seems ready to kill someone and i think it could be wolvie,something related to what happened in the room the kids are far behind...

the a1ant
12-08-2005, 02:00 AM
I know the X-films aren't fully based on reality (of course), but how are they going to explain the technology they got for the Danger Room? If you know the comics really well, that seems a lot like Shi-ar technology. I'm assuming once the training is over, they won't have to clean up all that mess :p

If Logan wasn't in wearing the same thing, I would've been curious as to if that was really a Danger Room scene, but those images fit that they are indeed leaving the Danger Room from the trailer.

Demon Within
12-08-2005, 02:08 AM
I know the X-films aren't fully based on reality (of course), but how are they going to explain the technology they got for the Danger Room? If you know the comics really well, that seems a lot like Shi-ar technology. I'm assuming once the training is over, they won't have to clean up all that mess :p

If Logan wasn't in wearing the same thing, I would've been curious as to if that was really a Danger Room scene, but those images fit that they are indeed leaving the Danger Room from the trailer.

It must be the danger room why else would wolverine be watching people get whooped then have an explosion over head and not even pay any attention to it?

RedIsNotBlue
12-08-2005, 02:22 AM
It must be the danger room why else would wolverine be watching people get whooped then have an explosion over head and not even pay any attention to it?

I dunno. Maybe he's cocky? Lol.

N_z0
12-08-2005, 02:27 AM
It's the Danger Room because the internet press that came to Vancouver and first viewed the teaser said so. Keep in mind that many of these individuals are not as knowledgeable about this film as many of us here. Obviously when they went to do the set visits and went to Burnaby to that set they were told that that was for Danger Room and they put two and two together.

Hopefully they're not facing off against Sentinels in the Danger Room though. As i've mentioned before it'd be totally idiotic for the X-men to know what Sentinels would look like, much less that they would be in the works. However, i'd be okay with Red's idea of having Trask stealing the sentinel idea.

Retroman
12-08-2005, 02:56 AM
How would they know to put sentinels in the danger room scenario then if there wasnt anything happening with them in ways of a storyline, and if they didnt exist
Very good points Kol and Lightning:up:

Retroman
12-08-2005, 03:00 AM
It's the Danger Room because the internet press that came to Vancouver and first viewed the teaser said so. Keep in mind that many of these individuals are not as knowledgeable about this film as many of us here. Obviously when they went to do the set visits and went to Burnaby to that set they were told that that was for Danger Room and they put two and two together.

Hopefully they're not facing off against Sentinels in the Danger Room though. As i've mentioned before it'd be totally idiotic for the X-men to know what Sentinels would look like, much less that they would be in the works. However, i'd be okay with Red's idea of having Trask stealing the sentinel idea.
Do we know how much time has lapsed between X2 and X3? So much could have between that time possibly the introduction of Sentinels. One mad-scientist/general anti-mutant protester dies another rises.

How else did they get to lock up so many mutants at Alctraz? You don't just capture the likes of Juggernaut with a few soldiers.

Retroman
12-08-2005, 03:04 AM
This has been bugging me since i watched the trailer; what Rogue can do in the danger room? She's got the suit and all but what can she actually do there and in real combat??:confused: What has she learned in her years at Xavier's school besides flying the jet?

RedIsNotBlue
12-08-2005, 03:05 AM
Do we know how much time has lapsed between X2 and X3? So much could have between that time possibly the introduction of Sentinels. One mad-scientist/general anti-mutant protester dies another rises.

How else did they get to lock up so many mutants at Alctraz? You don't just capture the likes of Juggernaut with a few soldiers.

Well it looks like there is a new president so who knows. Maybe a year or two at the most.

Retroman
12-08-2005, 03:14 AM
Well it looks like there is a new president so who knows. Maybe a year or two at the most.
Yes, i'm thinking that too.

P.S: I meant to say So much could have happened...:O

Dr Doom
12-08-2005, 03:17 AM
WE WOULD ALL **** OURSELVES IF THE OPENING SCENE WAS A SENTINEL FLYING THROUGH THE SKY SHOOTING AT MUTANTS ON THE GROUND.

aaron
12-09-2005, 08:50 AM
http://www.thexverse.com/assets/gallery/x3/trailers/teaser1/cap066.jpg

see the red light in the background?

Electrix
12-09-2005, 08:51 AM
Yes I do

aaron
12-09-2005, 08:53 AM
Do you think its an explosion...or something machine-like? ;)

Electrix
12-09-2005, 08:53 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/kaeleb/2Untitled-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/LiamGoody/phx.jpg

aaron
12-09-2005, 08:53 AM
You know the block from that first pic, what scene is that going to be used in?

Electrix
12-09-2005, 08:54 AM
That block was used during the Angel stunt...

Electrix
12-09-2005, 08:55 AM
Do you think its an explosion...or something machine-like? ;)

It looks laser like?

aaron
12-09-2005, 08:55 AM
How was it used during the angel stunt?

aaron
12-09-2005, 08:56 AM
It looks laser like?
I think it looks like a figure, looks solid to me

Electrix
12-09-2005, 09:06 AM
I cant really make out what it is...

aaron
12-09-2005, 09:11 AM
Lol im sure we'll sure more come the next trailer :) feb?

ljr
12-09-2005, 09:12 AM
So do I,they'll probably do alot more of the DR room scenes so they don't ahve to give all that much away of the final battle.

aaron
12-09-2005, 09:13 AM
huh huh

Retroman
02-06-2006, 02:41 AM
Bump.

We need some more Danger Room talk going.

Angamb
02-06-2006, 05:53 AM
Did someone a teaser with the danger room scenes of the real teaser?

It'd be great!

Angelus7181
02-06-2006, 07:04 AM
http://www.thexverse.com/assets/gallery/x3/trailers/teaser1/cap066.jpg

see the red light in the background?


It looks like misguided laser shots exploding in the background. Maybe aimed at Storm while she was flying towards or around the sentinals during battle, while Bobby helps out to distracted them or take aim at one.

Kitty looks useless, you can tell they just added her to add friction between Bobby and Rogue. Anymore pics that would hint to be any sentinals in X3 would be cool.

RedIsNotBlue
02-06-2006, 08:00 AM
Bump.

We need some more Danger Room talk going.

Ummm...I think the Danger Room will be ummmm...dangerous...honestly.

YAVANNA
02-06-2006, 08:51 AM
Anymore pics that would hint to be any sentinals in X3 would be cool.

like those orenge toys pic i've seen in http://www.invertedstripes.com/, sure they are not real, just hope they aren't real...:(

D.P.
02-06-2006, 01:32 PM
Anymore pics that would hint to be any sentinals in X3 would be cool.

Aight, I'll contribute...

From the X3 trailer....

The "Fastball Special" aimed at what looks like a Sentinel...

http://i1.tinypic.com/nbvig0.jpg

Notice the "metal'd up" Collossus...:marv:

http://i1.tinypic.com/nbvl9g.jpg

What/Who could be so tall that Wolverine would need to be hurled in the air in order to reach it?

http://i1.tinypic.com/nbvmah.jpg

Looks like the trademark Sentinel purple energy signature...

BBraddockLover
02-06-2006, 05:20 PM
god i hope youre right

PWN3R
02-06-2006, 07:11 PM
Omg...I've never seen the purple tint in there.

the Firestarter
02-07-2006, 01:09 AM
i'm hoping for sentinels as well.

TheWeatherMan
02-07-2006, 02:06 AM
god i hope youre right

I believe he is... if you go to the official X3 website, you can see the sentinels in the flash movie that plays while you're at the site. There most definately be sentinels in this movie. I can't wait to see what they'll look like on screen.

PWN3R
02-07-2006, 11:41 AM
I believe he is... if you go to the official X3 website, you can see the sentinels in the flash movie that plays while you're at the site. There most definately be sentinels in this movie. I can't wait to see what they'll look like on screen.


Wait in the intro? What do you men you SEE them? :eek:

PWN3R
02-07-2006, 11:45 AM
I'm so stupid....

I'm watching the trailer, and in the "supposed" DR scene clips, there are laser beams flying everywhere.....

sparky_parker
02-07-2006, 11:46 AM
I hope there are sentinals

conan69
02-07-2006, 12:42 PM
Regarding the passing of time, its no way near a year or 2 but actually about a month or so.

conan69
02-07-2006, 12:43 PM
Regarding the passing of time, its no way near a year or 2 but actually about a month or so.

Angelus7181
02-08-2006, 06:37 AM
Aight, I'll contribute...

From the X3 trailer....

The "Fastball Special" aimed at what looks like a Sentinel...

http://i1.tinypic.com/nbvig0.jpg

Notice the "metal'd up" Collossus...:marv:

http://i1.tinypic.com/nbvl9g.jpg

What/Who could be so tall that Wolverine would need to be hurled in the air in order to reach it?

http://i1.tinypic.com/nbvmah.jpg

Looks like the trademark Sentinel purple energy signature...


Very nice D.P. Are you able to get the one with Storm desending while those purple lasers blast all around her. That seems to be another clue that sentinels are most likely in this 3rd installment. :)

AVEITWITHJAMON
02-08-2006, 09:34 AM
I would love to see Sentinels in this movie. I would especially love to see Wolverine and Collosus take on one each.

ProfeZZor X
02-08-2006, 02:23 PM
Hopefully it will be explained why Sentinels are in a World War II setting, versus a modern city environment.

MoPlaYa43
02-14-2006, 10:15 AM
I cant wait to see the FastBall Special....:O

Asteroid-Man
02-14-2006, 12:17 PM
ok I made two danger room movies. here is the first
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fI9r9dnObU
here is the second (longer and updated)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnKsBXOsDhg

Dr Freeze
02-14-2006, 02:40 PM
Danger Room + Sentinels + Wolvie + Metal Collossus = Gold

Asteroid-Man
02-15-2006, 08:21 AM
exactly. If only I could get a realy cool looking photo of sentinels, then my film look look awesome. I will have to wait till march 16, to air on the web.

Retroman
05-03-2006, 03:53 PM
X2(2003) DANGER ROOM - Set Construction in 2002
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7296/dangerroomsetconstructionx21jq.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/496/dangerroomsetconstructionx227i.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8119/dangerroomsetconstructionx230y.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8259/dangerroomsetconstructionx247j.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/5396/dangerroomsetconstructionx258u.jpg

Finished result in 2006?

http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/3877/dangerroom2lk.jpg

Spotted by Lightning Strikez!

Retroman
05-03-2006, 04:00 PM
Edit - Apparently the Danger Room set was completely rebuilt so all the effort of keeping the X2 one was all in vein. Thanks to Electrix for that bit of info.

WorthyStevens
05-03-2006, 04:02 PM
Thanks Retro and Lightning. :up:

Seeing the DR in it's original form, in motion, will be something else! :D

Electrix
05-03-2006, 04:06 PM
X3: Enter the Danger Room
Where the X-Men sharpen their skills.
by Steve Head

April 13, 2006 - They thought about using it in the original X-Men. They tried to go with it in X-Men 2. And now, in X-Men: The Last Stand, you'll finally get to see it: the Danger Room. "This time, it's actually going to be in the movie," says production designer Ed Verreaux. "There's actually going to be a Danger Room sequence. We were able to put it all together, and you get to see it work."

As many of you know, the Danger Room is a high-tech training facility, where the X-Men brush up on their fighting skills. wikipedia.org describes it as being filled with traps, projectile firing devices, and mechanical dangers such as presses and collapsing walls intended to challenge the trainee.

During pre-production on X2, director Bryan Singer envisioned a training sequence for Wolverine. "I worked with Bryan for about five months on the first one, and they had a Danger Room designed then," says Verreaux. "But it wasn't completely built. It kind of came together. We'd built part of the Danger Room inside of the Mansion." But due to budgetary constraints, the sequence was removed from the shooting schedule, and the small Danger Room set was put into storage. "Bryan really wanted to add it, but we just couldn't. There's only so much money."

Wolverine (Hugh Jackman) tries to come to terms with the sudden appearance of Jean Grey (Famke Janssen)
For X3, however, the filmmakers made the Danger Room a top priority. "It was pretty important," says Verreaux. "This time, when we went in to the studio, we said 'We really want to have this! This is an X-Men thing!'"

Considering how important the Danger Room was, the filmmakers realized they needed to take it in a whole new direction. "There was a moment when we pulled the old set out of storage where we were like, that's the Danger Room?," says Verreaux. "It's a very small set. And if we used this, you'd never believe the scene. So we didn't use it. We built another Danger Room."

Verreaux describes the new set as "a big round room," with its key feature being that it will allow more than one X-Men to train within it. "We changed it a little bit because we wanted to open it up, otherwise you don't see as much of the room as you would have seen. The first set, it was really just sort of 'a space.' Not much room. But now [the actors] are doing a bunch of stuff and they're actually all in the space."

That being said, what can Wolverine and the X-Men expect to confront in the Danger Room? "A giant robot," says Verreaux. As the silver robot appears in production paintings, it's seen only from its foot to just below its knee joint. "We're going to see a bit of him. Not a whole lot. But we will see him in the Danger Room sequence, and the X-Men will be fighting against him."

http://uk.filmforce.ign.com/articles/701/701590p1.html

Angamb
05-03-2006, 04:09 PM
for me it looks not so big, at least, seeing this pic, I hope is bigger than I can see.

WorthyStevens
05-03-2006, 04:11 PM
for me it looks not so big, at least, seeing this pic, I hope is bigger than I can see.

We're only seeing a small portion of the DR.

_BB_
05-03-2006, 04:11 PM
Seeing the danger room transform that way is more than i could have ever imagined or hoped for, I cant describe what i was expecting but i have the image inside my head and its total crap compared to how they have done it :D

WorthyStevens
05-03-2006, 04:12 PM
Seeing the danger room transform that way is more than i could have ever imagined or hoped for, I can describe what i was expecting but i have the image inside my head and its total crap compared to how they have done it :D

Wait till we get to see it in motion. :D

Angamb
05-03-2006, 04:12 PM
do you think the set is real, or is green screen?

_BB_
05-03-2006, 04:15 PM
both i'd imagine. They probably did it the same as X2 with cerebro, they had one section of wall built and they just moved it around for the shot that was needed and the rest of the dome was built up digitally dependant on where the real section of wall was

Electrix
05-03-2006, 04:15 PM
Wasnt there that huge set with green screen and people nearby were complaining about explosions at about 2am in the morning?

Retroman
05-03-2006, 04:16 PM
do you think the set is real, or is green screen?
It could be partially green screen. Check out the magic they did in X-Men 1

http://www.matteworld.com/film/2000/xmen.html

_BB_
05-03-2006, 04:17 PM
Yeah that was for both the danger room and the bridge I think. That shot from the website though when the danger room is actually turned off looks to me like it was done the same way as cerebro

PWN3R
05-03-2006, 04:18 PM
That looks really good, like :eek: :up:

Retroman
05-03-2006, 04:19 PM
Wasnt there that huge set with green screen and people nearby were complaining about explosions at about 2am in the morning?
Yeah there was and i think it was for the Danger Room sequence.....

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/9361/42913093d0ea07997bo7fj.jpg


Image Courtesy of JMV

Electrix
05-03-2006, 04:20 PM
:up:

Angamb
05-03-2006, 04:25 PM
It could be partially green screen. Check out the magic they did in X-Men 1

http://www.matteworld.com/film/2000/xmen.html

thanks! I think it too. But the floor could be real, don't? I hope it.

Retroman
05-03-2006, 04:28 PM
:up:

The green screen was for the Golden Gate bridge as BB pointed out. The explosions for Alctraz and the Danger Room...
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/8471/64126004c46150d49fb4cr.jpg

http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/7602/46330595d7b4c8bf54o7lf.jpg


Now we know what those mysterious night shoots were for with the lights.It's the Sentinel.

Retroman
05-03-2006, 04:30 PM
thanks! I think it too. But the floor could be real, don't? I hope it.
I think it's real. Thats not so hard to construct.

lordofthenerds
05-03-2006, 04:40 PM
Cool pic. I really wanted the Danger Room to look like a big, silver, and round circular room at one point in the movie. It looks awesome!

Electrix
05-03-2006, 04:51 PM
It'll be good to see the audiences reaction when the scenery turns into a big round room. They will have thought it was real!

By your Command
05-03-2006, 04:53 PM
Has anyone explained how the Danger Room works in the movieverse? is it holograms or a round room where Xavier can play tricks with everyone's minds?

TNC9852002
05-04-2006, 02:25 AM
Ummm...No, nothing like that yet...We probably won't find out for sure until closer to release..

-TNC

MoPlaYa43
05-04-2006, 03:42 AM
I`m so glad they put the DR in X3

Halcohol
05-04-2006, 03:47 AM
I`m so glad they put the DR in X3
You and me both

XCharlieX
05-04-2006, 04:30 AM
This is only a good idea if they didnt cram the movie non stop with action imo. Otherwise its a horible idea... simply because it would have nothing to do with the story but be yet another slam bam scene.

The Kid
05-04-2006, 04:41 AM
yep. I feel the same way. fanservice is awesome but don't make a whole movie out of it.

lhooq
05-04-2006, 04:42 AM
please feel free to point and laff at me....




but whats the danger room?

XCharlieX
05-04-2006, 04:47 AM
Danger room is the training holographic room the x men go to to stay in shape. Its all but real.

lhooq
05-04-2006, 04:54 AM
ahhhhh.... thank u


i kept hearin peeps mention it...didnt have a clue what it was

britrogue
05-04-2006, 05:28 AM
I love the fact that they're putting the Danger Room in. It also highlights the fact that Storm and Logan are going to be overprotective of the "X-Kids" in this film, who are going to want nothing more than to grow up.

biggles2000uk
05-04-2006, 05:36 AM
I'm speculating from this pic, it will be something along the line of holographics

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/dangerroom2ko.jpg

looks like the sentinal and the fight scene with the fastball special is part of the danger room.

XCharlieX
05-04-2006, 05:50 AM
I love the fact that they're putting the Danger Room in. It also highlights the fact that Storm and Logan are going to be overprotective of the "X-Kids" in this film, who are going to want nothing more than to grow up.

I saw this coming... One thing i find horrible about some directors: they think they can combine action scenes with character ones so much that they end up doing mostly all of this and it becomes a numbing experience. I call it cutting corners.

eXperiment
05-04-2006, 06:32 AM
looks like the sentinal and the fight scene with the fastball special is part of the danger room.

Yep

reddog271
05-04-2006, 02:16 PM
isn't that Rogue beside Bobby in the DR picture? Do we ever see her in any of the DR trailers? Thought it was just Kitty and Bobby.

Aiden
05-04-2006, 02:18 PM
Yes...we see her metalling up also

spidoman
05-04-2006, 02:20 PM
I think Rogue must get someone's powers (most likely colossus from the TV spot) there is no reason to be in a fight if she doesn't have someone else's powers, she's just too vulnerable.

liverlips
05-08-2006, 06:11 PM
This is only a good idea if they didnt cram the movie non stop with action imo. Otherwise its a horible idea... simply because it would have nothing to do with the story but be yet another slam bam scene.

Actually, I think it serves a purpose in this film and I'm glad they waited to use it. I don't think the X-Men could expect teenagers to risk their lives without some type of boot camp preparation.

XCharlieX
05-08-2006, 06:18 PM
if its so necessary then theres more of a need to stretch the film out if you want all good efects of it, but not bad. Otherwise I stand by my comment.

liverlips
05-08-2006, 06:19 PM
Danger room is the training holographic room the x men go to to stay in shape. Its all but real.

I think the movie clip with the Sentinel makes sense the more I think about it. If it's a hologram like everything else in the room, then Wolverine wouldn't have been able to actually jump on it or ride it down to the ground. Also, it would explain why the decapitation was so quick (like playing a video game), why the robot won't be able to grab anyone, and why Logan's fall isn't heard (he probably buzzed straight through the big guy and landed on the other side of the room). Or maybe I'm just thinking up lame excuses.

migs
05-08-2006, 07:23 PM
I think the movie clip with the Sentinel makes sense the more I think about it. If it's a hologram like everything else in the room, then Wolverine wouldn't have been able to actually jump on it or ride it down to the ground. Also, it would explain why the decapitation was so quick (like playing a video game), why the robot won't be able to grab anyone, and why Logan's fall isn't heard (he probably buzzed straight through the big guy and landed on the other side of the room). Or maybe I'm just thinking up lame excuses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_Room


The holograms in the danger room can actually hurt you. The only difference between fighting something in the dr is that someone is watching while you are in there so if it gets too intense, they can just shut it off.

Gilpesh
05-08-2006, 07:45 PM
I have to say that the design they used for the danger room is great. Probably the only way to pull it off plausibly.

BMM
05-08-2006, 07:50 PM
Yeah, I'm glad they stuck with what looks like the X2 design, only larger.

Iceman/Psylocke
05-09-2006, 04:40 AM
The Danger Room looks great from the recent pics. I couldn't really visualise what they might come up with but I'm happy with the result.

liverlips
05-09-2006, 07:47 PM
The holograms in the danger room can actually hurt you. The only difference between fighting something in the dr is that someone is watching while you are in there so if it gets too intense, they can just shut it off.[/quote]



Even though we're supposed to suspend reality and put faith in mutant powers for these movies to work, I think dangerous holograms might be stretching things a bit.