X3's Musical Score: Forum Discussion (merged 2)

[The Original Bamfer]

I love Phoenix Rises! But I really like anything with the Phoenix theme in it. Its great.

Did anyone notice in The Last Stand, near the end, it de-exotifies Phoenix's theme to make it the central theme? Very nice tough, it shows how important she is in this movie.

[DarknessOfDeath]

I love Phoenix Rises! But I really like anything with the Phoenix theme in it. Its great.

Did anyone notice in The Last Stand, near the end, it de-exotifies Phoenix's theme to make it the central theme? Very nice tough, it shows how important she is in this movie.

thats 4:28 right? ;) I love it. :) I guess you and I are on the same page. :)

[The Original Bamfer]

:up:

This is the kind of score that only improves a movie!

[DarknessOfDeath]

:up:

This is the kind of score that only improves a movie!

I think so too. :) I'm glad I'm listening to it now before I see it.

What did u think of my manip?


http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/darkness_of_death/famkeisjean.jpg

;) ... Lets hear it for Famke!! -claps-



by the way... in Whirlpool of Love. heh... listen to the part at .48 to .55 reminds me of ...a particular scene from a different movie :)

The luck dragon from the neverending story. LOL :p Falkor :) weeeeeee

[The Original Bamfer]

Not a bad manip :up:

[DarknessOfDeath]

yeah and I kept her body figure. :) Not storm's :p ... :) Thats my Jean... kinda hot... and sexy in her x-men suit. sad we don't see her in it all that much in this one. :( but the red one ain't that bad.

[retron]

I love Phoenix Rises! But I really like anything with the Phoenix theme in it. Its great.

Did anyone notice in The Last Stand, near the end, it de-exotifies Phoenix's theme to make it the central theme? Very nice tough, it shows how important she is in this movie.

I'm right with ya on the Phoenix theme, its written so it can sound so majestic, but menacing and mysterious at the same time.

To me, it (The Last Stand) also makes it seem like the whole Phoenix thing is still somewhat unresolved. Based on the music alone, I'm debating if she dies in the end or not, and whether theres somewhat a sequel setup in this movie, seeing s theres that after-credits clip which apparently reveals something important.

[Charlie No-One]

Let me tell you, I have a large collection of scores, and this is by far the best. During Phoenix Rising and Whirlpool of Love, I almost cried. They are just so powerfull and saddening.

[LEX]

Hearing the main theme during the DNA/Cure sequence in surround sounds was awesome. I'd say that John Powell has definitely pulled it off.

[Storm22]

The score was awesome imo!

[KenK]

I love the clips I've heard thus far. I can't wait to hear the score in the film itself.

[DarknessOfDeath]

I think im glad that i listened to the soundtrack first. so it'll help me enjoy the film. Score does help to make the film enjoyable. It works for me especially with SW... so. yeah. this is the best soundtrack I've heard since Sith. :) THANK YOU AND I LOVE X-MEN.

[rashad]

I love this soundtrack. I love that song Skating on the Pond from the Kitty and Bobby scene. It fits the mood perfectly.

[Dark_Zavin]

yeah, IMO this soundtrack is on par with the RotS one, mmmm Battle of the Heroes vs Dark Phoenix Tragedy...anyone?

[DarknessOfDeath]

I'd combine Anakin's betrayal and battle of the heros with all the Phoenix tracks together... then you'd have... Anakin/Vader's and Jean/Phoenix's story interwined with each other

[Dark_Zavin]

Wow, Williams and Powell sure know how to express the situation with the right notes

[DarknessOfDeath]

someone do that... omg...that would be like 10 mins...more like it...no ..a 30 min track :D

[ororoandme]

I still think that the music beginning from "Entering the House" to "The Funeral" is the best in this soundtrack :) But that's just me :)

[Catman]

They should have kept John Ottman (or however you spell his last name) because this new guy wasn't so good. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't as good what Ottman did with X2.

[TNC9852002]

It was just as good, IMO...

I'm still partial to Kamen somehow...

-TNC

[LEX]

I liked the X3 score just fine.

[Rayne]

This score pretty much sucked. I usually never *hear* the score the first time I watch a movie because it's usually good enough not to distract me from the story I've been pulled into - but with this movie, I was actually LOOKING for the score to rise up and fill the emotional void that was not captured or portrayed well on screen. Still, the action did a lot of the damn talking! Good flick. Great flick? Probably not. But still good.

[Catman]

I'm not saying it was a bad score, but just not as good as Ottman's stuff.

[cyke93]

the film needed much more than a better score.. it needed proper character development and an emotional attachment to these characters.

[StormX]

I'm not saying it was a bad score, but just not as good as Ottman's stuff.

Simply put, the score was not memorable like the second film


It really had no purpose.

[Catman]

Simply put, the score was not memorable like the second film


It really had no purpose.

Brett should have hired Danny Elfman or Lalo Schffrin.

[Wolverini]

Catman , isnt this your 1012731982739172397 topic you created? Why not make one and express all your concerns!?

[*xmenfan*]

The score sucked! It didn't give me goosbumps like john did in X2 and the score In x1 was also amazing

[Wolverini]

John Williams if you really want an epic score.

Imagine that ... wow

[GhostPoet]

ignore this.

[Pauluz]

The score was GOOD! It wasn't bad and it surely didn't suck.

[Catman]

The score sucked! It didn't give me goosbumps like john did in X2 and the score In x1 was also amazing

I wasn't too crazy about the score in part 1, but I agree with what you said about X2.

[xwolverine2]

the score was awesome....... no question

[Tempest Raging]

The score was not horrible, but much worse than the first two. The opening music was abysmal. I did like the "Phoenix" theme. The most important flaw in the score was the music at pivotal moments where some of the major mutants (besides Phoenix) are using their powers. The music that went along with the Golden Gate Bridge scene just failed to convey the awe-inspiring nature of what was happening.

[thev01]

I would compare the score of this film to Spider-Man. Not bad but not Memorabel. The X-men:Animated series opening themehad a more memorable score than this movie. I wondered why they didn't use a variation of this time.
Check this link for theX-men:AS theme. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=UGT8mzz-J2s&search=X-men%20opening)
This one for the japanese version. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=aPY2BfgRgRQ&search=X-men%20opening)

[darkhold]

the score was just off, too overwhelming where it shouldn't have been. and not moving enough when it should've been. james newton howard is still the best.

[StormX]

Yeah Kamen's score in X1 was not great, obviously Ottman and Singer have a better understanding of what they want from eachother

X2 truly benefitted from the strong score.

[Catman]

I would compare the score of this film to Spider-Man. Not bad but not Memorabel. The X-men:Animated series opening themehad a more memorable score than this movie. I wondered why they didn't use a variation of this time.
Check this link for theX-men:AS theme. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=UGT8mzz-J2s&search=X-men%20opening)
This one for the japanese version. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=aPY2BfgRgRQ&search=X-men%20opening)

Wasn't the X-Men cartoons score written by the guy who did Power Rangers. Not Saban but the other dude? Let's hire him next time. lol.

[BigMac]

They should have kept John Ottman (or however you spell his last name) because this new guy wasn't so good. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't as good what Ottman did with X2.

Aside from the choir, it wasn't bad. Although, it could have used a few more references to the Kamen score. Ottoman did a wonderful job at mixing his new stuff with Kamen's hero theme.

[ororoandme]

I thought the Phoenix theme was sad and powerful at the same time. It was a really gorgeous piece of music.

[The_Dark_Knight]

Check this link for theX-men:AS theme. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=UGT8mzz-J2s&search=X-men%20opening)
This one for the japanese version. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=aPY2BfgRgRQ&search=X-men%20opening)


Ahhh. I love how japanese try to sound cool in there theme songs saying something in English. "SHOCK!!!" haha vary funny :p

[Heretic]

I hated the score...it was overbearing and silly

[tonytr1687]

Except for the "tragic Pheonix" theme which was pretty damn good, the score was horrible. Overwrought and way too cookie-cutter. Sounded like the music for a sentimental kids flick at times. Reminded me of Fantastic Four's score.

[neemer5]

I actually thought the score was one of the better parts of the film.

[adamcz]

The score sucked - it was corny and over-the-top. I actually got pissed off when Angel broke through the glass and flew away, and the score tried to turn it into an epic/triumphant moment. Subtlety would have served that scene well.

The other cue that pissed me off was the fight scene at Jean's house where Chuck died. Again, too over-the-top. I felt like it was almost condescending. Yeah we get it buddy, it's a big scene. We're not six years old.

It seemed to go hand in hand with Ratner's over the top directing style. I wonder if the cheesieness of the score is actually Ratner's fault. I can imagine him listening to some temp tracks and demanding "more more more!"

[griffolyon12]

They should have kept John Ottman (or however you spell his last name) because this new guy wasn't so good. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't as good what Ottman did with X2.
I agree the score was by far the weakest part of the film.

[Ororo_]

Alright, I have the X3 OST. And not all songs are bad. I love nr. 14 Dark Phoenix's Tragedy (when Xavier gets killed) and nr. 27 The Last Stand (music from the credits, after some time there's a beat rolling in which I love). I havent listened to them all yet though...

I think overall, this score isnt the best..

[BMM]

I didn't like the opening score in this one nearly as much as those of the previous two.

[Secret_Riddle]

the score, while not as memorable as ottmans was still excellent and imo it is better qaulity then ottmans.

[Downhere]

While Ottman's score wasn't bad...I don't understand all the praise it gets. X1's score was more memorable and X3's score was great as well.

[N_z0]

I miss the X2 theme. When the movie started, and found out they didn't have that, i was humming the theme to myself. :(

[Catman]

While Ottman's score wasn't bad...I don't understand all the praise it gets. X1's score was more memorable and X3's score was great as well.

I think because Ottman's X2 score has a good hero theme. The one you hear during the opening and closing credits.

[Tissues]

I liked what was playing when we saw Angel taking his first flight.

[Ororo_]

If anyone wants, I can send you a song from the OST? If it works thought and if I'm allowed..

[addismad]

i think there are certain songs from all three films that have worked really well, i cant say one is better than the other as they all sound slightly different but good

in X1:
the main theme
mystique's theme
brotherhood theme
final battle at statue of battle of liberty
logan and rogue's theme

in X2
jeans theme when she uses phoenix power
the main theme
some of the mansion attack theme
tornado jet sequence theme

in X3
the main theme
phoenix theme which occured several time the music but in different ways

i can remeber less from x3 cos havnt seen it as much, but when i left the cinema, the phoenix rising theme was in my head for hours, still kinda is so something was right about that score

[Sketchee]

I liked the X3 score overall.

X2 had a good theme, but it got played over and over and over again.

[Ororo_]

Ok I've listened to the whole album now. And I came to like it a lot. The Phoenix song is so catchy. Someone said this movie didnt have a superhero theme like X2 did, but when I listen to the song 'The Last Stand' (at 03:25 minutes) it's like the X2 theme is mixed in it just for a second and it deffinitely sounds like a hero theme to me. I think X3 has the best soundtrack of all the X movies.

[KenK]

Ok I've listened to the whole album now. And I came to like it a lot. The Phoenix song is so catchy. Someone said this movie didnt have a superhero theme like X2 did, but when I listen to the song 'The Last Stand' (at 03:25 minutes) it's like the X2 theme is mixed in it just for a second and it deffinitely sounds like a hero theme to me. I think X3 has the best soundtrack of all the X movies.


Yeah, I've been humming Phoenix's theme all weekend.

[Warhammer]

May somebody please share the love by posting/hosting some tracks?

:(

[theJust]

i finally got the score, it really is amazing! and by far the best of the three!
angel's theme is better just by itself though.
jean's theme is heartbreaking!
my favs thus far are definitely whirlpool of love, dark phoenix's tragedy, the funeral, and the last stand.
this memorial day, i will be remembering professor charles xavier...

[Ororo_]

May somebody please share the love by posting/hosting some tracks?

:(

If I knew how.. I can try sending a song to your email though if you pm me your address.

[Backdrifter]

Its funny watching you guys fawn over a score that is mediocre at best ;)

If you all want to hear some really incredible scoring, check out the score for Memoirs of a Geisha...the film is so-so..but the score is breathtaking.

[Ororo_]

I've uploaded the songs Dark Phoenix's Tragedy (played when Phoenix fights Xavier) and Bathroom Titles (intro)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CWL86MQ4

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7UEB9MZ1

if there are more you would like me to upload, lemme know. ;)

*hopes this is allowed*

[xantax]

I've uploaded the songs Dark Phoenix's Tragedy (played when Phoenix fights Xavier) and Bathroom Titles (intro)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CWL86MQ4

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7UEB9MZ1

if there are more you would like me to upload, lemme know. ;)

*hopes this is allowed*

thanks! the best music man... gives me goosebumps hearing it and seeing the actual scene play out in my mind. it's so beautiful...

[Boba_Fett_123]

Its funny watching you guys fawn over a score that is mediocre at best ;)

If you all want to hear some really incredible scoring, check out the score for Memoirs of a Geisha...the film is so-so..but the score is breathtaking.

If I compared every film's score to John Williams, I'd be a very unhappy music listener. ;) This is good, but it's obviously not up to that level: what is?

[xantax]

Try closing your eyes when hearing Dark Phoenix's Tragedy, it so powerful... just loved this scene. For me it's the best scene!

[DarknessOfDeath]

hell yeah :D

[Ororo_]

Here's another song called 'The Last Stand' and it was played during the end of the movie and during the credits. At 03:26 it gets really cool and the beat at 04:26 is wicked!

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q8M5RN5E

Enjoy :D

[DarknessOfDeath]

I love that bit in the end :D

[Warhammer]

I've uploaded the songs Dark Phoenix's Tragedy (played when Phoenix fights Xavier) and Bathroom Titles (intro)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CWL86MQ4

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7UEB9MZ1

if there are more you would like me to upload, lemme know. ;)

*hopes this is allowed*

Thank you so much!

:)

[Warhammer]

Its funny watching you guys fawn over a score that is mediocre at best ;)

If you all want to hear some really incredible scoring, check out the score for Memoirs of a Geisha...the film is so-so..but the score is breathtaking.

Hater. :mad:
Clean your ears.

[xantax]

thanks ro!

[DarknessOfDeath]

Hater. :mad:
Clean your ears.

You know... heh... She agrees with you :)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/darkness_of_death/orly.jpg


and me too. :)

[Warhammer]

Here's another song called 'The Last Stand' and it was played during the end of the movie and during the credits. At 03:26 it gets really cool and the beat at 04:26 is wicked!

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q8M5RN5E

Enjoy :D

Thank You.

[Warhammer]

You know... heh... She agrees with you :)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/darkness_of_death/orly.jpg


and me too. :)

Haha :D
Nice.

[Ororo_]

Thank You.

np ;)

[blurb23]

Does anyone know where I can find the X1 score? People keep saying it's the best out of the 3, and I can't quite remember the whole thing. I'm desperate to find it :(

You know... heh... She agrees with you :)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/darkness_of_death/orly.jpg


and me too. :)

And the O RLY owl in front of her, and then change her caption to "YES RLY!" and you'll have a masterpiece ;)

[XCharlieX]

That definitely sounded more like x1.. darker and less super hero-ish.

[Backdrifter]

Does anyone know where I can find the X1 score? People keep saying it's the best out of the 3, and I can't quite remember the whole thing. I'm desperate to find it :(



And the O RLY owl in front of her, and then change her caption to "YES RLY!" and you'll have a masterpiece ;)


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004U0Q3/qid=1149030107/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/104-9897500-8700753?s=music&v=glance&n=5174

[usagicassidy]

I want to know why the music that played in the Danger Room isn't on the soundtrack. It was very epic and almost Star Wars-ish sounding.

[Slim_X]

What's the name of the track used in the Danger Room scene?

[Charlie No-One]

Read above you.

[Slim_X]

Holy ****! Lmao, why didn't I see that? :confused:

[usagicassidy]

Still doesn't help us with the answer, lol.

[flavio_lebeau]

God, i just listened to 'The X-jet" from the X1 soundtrack, and...dont you guys wish you were X-men when you listen to it? I feel almost like putting an uniform and going out to a mission :O the first half of this song is the best track in the trilogy, has the most X-men feeling. i absolutely love it...

[DarknessOfDeath]

God, i just listened to 'The X-jet" from the X1 soundtrack, and...dont you guys wish you were X-men when you listen to it? I feel almost like putting an uniform and going out to a mission :O the first half of this song is the best track in the trilogy, has the most X-men feeling. i absolutely love it...

I feel the same way... just imagine getting into the x-suit and replacing the glasses with your visor...and then you look at Jean and...holy smokes. She looks ingredible... :O

question is... would they be in the same room changing into their x-gear? ... lol... -sighs-

[flavio_lebeau]

good to know im not alone...this may be my nerdiest post ever, but i cant wait to go to a costume party just to get my X-men movie costume ready :p

[DarknessOfDeath]

would they be stripping out of their clothes in the same room...and then getting into their x-suits? Sounds like fun... and lucky to watch...ahem... get undressed and slip into her x-suit... :p

[flavio_lebeau]

i dont think so...there must be their own closets and such. Cyclops seeing Storm pasing in front of him with her bra...then Jean looks at him and gets pissed...while Wolverine intentionally passes really close to Jean in his underpants...and Rogue stares at Logan, while she's taking off shirt and gloves... then Cyclops optic blasts Logan...and Rogue absorbs Cyclops...then Storm creates lightning, then Jean kill everyone. No, it wouldnt work.

[tirminyl]

Simply put, the score was not memorable like the second film


It really had no purpose.

For me the scores from 1 & 2 aren't memorable at all and I just watched those recently. The score from 3 was great. Most noteworthy would be the Phoenix theme.

[Backdrifter]

the x2 and x3 scores are generic and cliche. the x1 score is the best by far.

[ntcrawler]

I feel the same way... just imagine getting into the x-suit and replacing the glasses with your visor...and then you look at Jean and...holy smokes. She looks ingredible... :O

question is... would they be in the same room changing into their x-gear? ... lol... -sighs-

Well all the uniforms are kept in the same room but since this is an institution there would be at least separate bathrooms so the men can admire themselves in the mirror and high-5 each other and go "good mission, dude" while the ladies can do each other's hair and gossip about the men :D

[ntcrawler]

the x2 and x3 scores are generic and cliche. the x1 score is the best by far.

I have to agree on this. X3 has some interesting parts that give in an epic, almost haunting sound to it but overall I found the tone to be wrong an the music very rushed. Especially the alkali lake scene, the music sounded as rush ed as the scene itself. When you look back at other epic soundtracks, especially the work that John Williams does he likes to come up with a basic tune that gets reused in different scenes, arranged differently according to the mood. Like Luke and Leia's theme in ROTJ for example. It can be epic when necessary or gentle and soft if it's a delicate scene. X3 on the other hand doesn't have a tune that's instantly recognizeable or one that you can hum to yourself over and over again. Especially the "Whirlpool of Love" melody. What should be gentle he builds into a loud crescendo, and the tune itself sounds like it's cut 1/2-way through and changes to something else. The music interferes with the setup of the scene IMHO and doesn't flow smoothly, too jagged.

[Sean Adisano]

does anyone have the link to where i can get the x3 trailer theme?

[flavio_lebeau]

i never understood why the music which plays in the cgi intro is better and different then the version in the cd. They are similar, but the one in the actual movie is waaaaay better.

[XCharlieX]

I was expecting perhaps a lame imitation like for t3, I dunno I found x3s music to pass the litmus test. It sounded professional, although x2s score did have the most memorable parts. All 3 films are very well done music wise imo.

[sauronthegreat]

I can say that I was most impressed with the soundtrack of x-men 3. I like the movie, it is great. But the music in it is on a supreme level. I am most impressed by the way it was incorporated with the scenes. I cannot say anything about Phoenix's theme, because words cannot describe emotions it holds. I especially liked the X-Men's and Brotherhood's themes, they are strong and fast. But most of all I think Phoenix Rises song is a masterpiece. I hold it on a level with O Fortuna. When looking at that scene and listening to that music no man can't feel anything. It is like a part of some epic scene. I see Wolverine as Sisyphus who must climb a mountain with a burden no man can bear. The burden of Phoenix's external force and his internal struggle to kill the woman he loves.

[Retroman]

Has anyone noticed that there has been next to no interviews with the composer of X3, the dvd also doesn't seem to have anything on Powell's score.:huh: :huh: :huh: Strange.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Maybe they forgot...