Christian Bale v.s. Michael Keaton

[Whack Arnolds]

Too many threads have devolved into the discussion and arguments over the two. Here is a forum where we can intelligently discuss the two, with out flaming or name calling. And please, keep it intelligent...

[The Batman]

Bale was a better Bruce Wayne
Keaton was a better Batman

[Whack Arnolds]

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[Whack Arnolds]

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[BatmanRules33]

Bale was a better Bruce Wayne
Keaton was a better Batman

bingo.

what a stupid thread. this is just meant to piss more ppl off.:mad: :down

get a life nukk nukk.:ghost:

[Whack Arnolds]

bingo.

what a stupid thread. this is just meant to piss more ppl off.:mad: :down

get a life nukk nukk.:ghost:How would I be pissing people off? It's just their opinion, and to poll who thinks who is better. It's not a complicated process, unless for some reason you will get pissed off at the results. It's a thread to keep the discussion between the two confined to one area, and keep it from spreading else where.

[The Guard]

How the hell is a thread with the word "VS" between the words Keaton and Bale not going to devolve into pissing matches? Now, had you called it "Keaton AND Bale"...it still would have devolved into pissing matches...but nice try.

(Notice I put Keaton's name first). :)

[Whack Arnolds]

How the hell is a thread with the word "VS" between the words Keaton and Bale not going to devolve into pissing matches? Now, had you called it "Bale and Keaton"...it still would have devolved into pissing matches...but nice try.

(Notice I put Keaton's name first). :)It's meant to be a pissing match, and to keep it out of other threads and to keep it intelligent.



(Notice how I put Bale first and Douglas err Keaton second?):)

[The Sage]

Nuk, get a better shot of Keaton's Batman in that wingspread picture.

Christian Bale.

[Whack Arnolds]

Nuk, get a better shot of Keaton's Batman in that wingspread picture.It's the only one I have, I want a better one. :(

[Robin91939]

Bale:

He had the intensity as Batman.
He had the "arrogance" as the "playboy Bruce.
He had the focus, mystery, and anger as the "real" Bruce.
He was the correct size, build and look.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/robin91939/woah.jpg


-R

[The Guard]

So...is the argument who was a better performer, or who made the better Batman? Because one of them obviously had writing that was more in tune with what most people consider "better Batman", and therefore, even had he given an average performance, would still have been deemed "better" in most regards.

I think, and mostly because I'm a Batman fan and not subject to bias in any way, shape or form, that Christian Bale made the better Bruce/Batman in almost every way, and that he had much better "stuff" to do in his film than Keaton did. I think Michael Keaton did more with his role as an actor than Bale did with what he was given, but every time I say that, I'm not even sure people will get what I mean, which turns into a pissing match, which is in turn, fun.

[Whack Arnolds]

So...is the argument who was a better performer, or who made the better Batman? Because one of them obviously had writing that was more in tune with what most people consider "better Batman", and therefore, even had he given an average performance, would still have been deemed "better" in most regards.

I think, and mostly because I'm a Batman fan and not subject to bias in any way, shape or form, that Christian Bale made the better Bruce/Batman in almost every way, and that he had much better "stuff" to do in his film than Keaton did. I think Michael Keaton did more with his role as an actor than Bale did with what he was given, but every time I say that, I'm not even sure people will get what I mean, which turns into a pissing match, which is in turn, fun.That's the point. And thanks for your contribution.

[Robin91939]

Right on, Guard :up:

-R

[superpower]

In terms of acting ability? Keaton, anyone who can transform from Mr. Mom into the bat gets my vote.

In terms of bruce wayne? Bale. he nailed it.

in terms of dialog? I'll have to see BB again first.

in terms of playing batman? I think Keaton. I prefered his Calculated look. He seemed in controll of his emotions. Calm, cool, and collected.

Bale seemed like he was just an out of controll guy who threw on a costume.

in terms of.........oh thats enough. Keaton wins. But bale is very close, but close only count in horse shoes and hand gernades.

[Robin91939]

Bale seemed like he was just an out of controll guy who threw on a costume.


That's what Batman was in his first years. Before he got a hold of himself, and learned more about the needs of the job.

-R

[The Sage]

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Bale wins.

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Keaton wins.

[superpower]

That's what Batman was in his first years. Before he got a hold of himself, and learned more about the needs of the job.

-R

Oh I'm not saying he has never been out of controll. he has a few times.

But I prefer the Calm, cool, and collected batman who is just quite, and well a badass.:up:

[The Kid]

No adam West? **** this poll.

[Whack Arnolds]

Oh I'm not saying he has never been out of controll. he has a few times.

But I prefer the Calm, cool, and collected batman who is just quite, and well a badass.:up:Here's how I see it, Keaton was cool....Bale was the badass. Thst's the point of Batman though, if he looks crazy and capable of anything with his emotions, he must do that to remain overlord of the underworld and crime. If he's just cool and calm in a Batsuit....its not near as intimidating. It's like "hey criminal, check out my batsuit and how I look detached from anything that is happening"....Bale's Batman plays up the detail that there is a thin line between Batman and his villains. If he lets the emotion get the best of him, he could be just as evil as they are (and this is a theme from the comics). If you wanted to scare lethal criminals, wondering around in a batsuit wouldn't be enough. You would have to create and aura around yourself, and Bale does that by acting like a creature and showing the internal rage (where at times he looks borderline psycho) he has kept inside of him and he focuses all that rage through Batman. It truly is a much more complicated outlook and potrayl of Batman than in B89...but both have their pros and cons.

[BK]

I'd say we'll have a better opinion once the sequel to BB comes out. That way, we can get Established Batman vs. Established Batman. :up:

[DarkKnightJRK]

Here's the difference, Bale's Batman would kick your ass, Keaton's would kick your ass AND ENJOY IT. :o

[superpower]

Here's how I see it, Keaton was cool....Bale was the badass. Thst's the point of Batman though, if he looks crazy and capable of anything with his emotions, he must do that to remain overlord of the underworld and crime. If he's just cool and calm in a Batsuit....its not near as intimidating. It's like "hey criminal, check out my batsuit and how I look detached from anything that is happening"....Bale's Batman plays up the detail that there is a thin line between Batman and his villains. If he lets the emotion get the best of him, he could be just as evil as they are (and this is a theme from the comics). If you wanted to scare lethal criminals, wondering around in a batsuit wouldn't be enough. You would have to create and aura around yourself, and Bale does that by acting like a creature and showing the internal rage (where at times he looks borderline psycho) he has kept inside of him and he focuses all that rage through Batman. It truly is a much more complicated outlook and potrayl of Batman than in B89...but both have their pros and cons.

Yeah I see what your saying. But to me Keaton was able to give that anger just in a different way.

Did I like Bales? Yes. But I would prefer he take it down a notch.

One of Batman's greatest assets is his controll in any situation. And like Robin said this is his yr1 where he is a bit out of controll, I still prefer that controll.

Plus Keaton's Batman wasn't an origin. When we meet him he has been out at least (was it 6 or 8 that knox said) times. He had a bit of a reputation already. People allready feared him. I like a Batman who only speaks when necissary and with as few words as possible.

[Sabotage8475]

Yeah I see what your saying. But to me Keaton was able to give that anger just in a different way.

Did I like Bales? Yes. But I would prefer he take it down a notch.

One of Batman's greatest assets is his controll in any situation. And like Robin said this is his yr1 where he is a bit out of controll, I still prefer that controll.

Plus Keaton's Batman wasn't an origin. When we meet him he has been out at least (was it 6 or 8 that knox said) times. He had a bit of a reputation already. People allready feared him. I like a Batman who only speaks when necissary and with as few words as possible.


Keaton didn't have to Bat (sorry) an eyelash to look disturbed. It was all in the eyes.

Bale, though while I liked his performance, the final result still felt forced. At least to me.. He was angry, and certainly alot less subuded than Keaton. So he's obviously going stick out more of the two.

Besides, I prefer my Batman a tad less chatty. And there's nothing wrong with subtlety. Which was an aspect Bale oddly lacked.

[Tangled Web]

Bale.

[superpower]

Keaton didn't have to Bat (sorry) an eyelash to look disturbed. It was all in the eyes.

Bale, though while I liked his performance, the final result still felt forced. At least to me.. He was angry, and certainly alot less subuded than Keaton. So he's obviously going stick out more of the two.

Besides, I prefer my Batman a tad less chatty. And there's nothing wrong with subtlety. Which was an aspect Bale oddly lacked.

Yes Bale was very chatty. I really liked the way keaton was brooding, the way I dig Batsy:up:

[Keyser Sushi]

Man, I've had this discussion so many times I begin to tire of it.

BALE, DAMMIT!!!!

I actually agree pretty much with what the Guard said, though I'm not sure I completely agree.

Basically I think there was nothing wrong with Keaton's performance. But I don't think the part that Keaton played was written as it should have been; I realize it was Miller's DKR Batman but it was taken out of context, since Keaton's Batman was pretty much just starting out (within a month or so I believe, given the idicators in the movie... but then... like everything else in B'89, it's pretty damn sketchy).

For me it break down like this:

1.Keaton and Bale did about equally spectacular acting jobs. Edge: draw.

2.Bale looks the part, where Keaton does not. Edge: Bale

3.Bale's part was written with more depth and was more faithful to the source material. Edge: Bale

Bale is the clear winner.

[Keyser Sushi]

Yes Bale was very chatty. I really liked the way keaton was brooding, the way I dig Batsy:up:

So you prefer a churlish, petulant man-child wrapped in rubber? That's your hero?

The thing I love about the way Batman was portrayed in "Begins" is that he acted differently toward different people. Did you not notice this?

He was pure EVIL to Flass and Falcone. He was respectful to Gordon. He was quiet but compassionate to the "Narrows Kid." He was kind to the homeless guy. He was invisible to the SWAT team. He was cool and aloof to Rachel.

THAT IS BATMAN. He is different things to different people. And it was captured right there on screen. HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE THAT?!?!?!?!

[The Kid]

I'll know I'll catch a post equivilant to a swift kick to the nuts with this, but here are a few things I still love more about keaton's take than bales.

Those sparkling eyes of his. It's amazing how much he can say with them through a dark rubber mask. His pensive, constantly calculating expression. Batman's like the ultimate chess player and that's what Keaton looked like to me. He would have kicked Fischer's ass, I'd bet. The voice was flippin perfect. I love when he says "stop"

If bale said it, he'd have sounded like hulk hogan, brother.

Oh crap, I forgot. And I like the way his mouth looks in the mask too. Like a pissed off **** you type ah guy.

http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/MMPH/28312.jpg Give 'em hell, batsy.

don't hurt me too bad, now.

[Keyser Sushi]

//Runs up to Wesyeed and delivers an NFL field-goal kick to the sack.//

What?!? He ASKED!!! Aw, okay... nevermind...

[superpower]

So you prefer a churlish, petulant man-child wrapped in rubber? That's your hero?

The thing I love about the way Batman was portrayed in "Begins" is that he acted differently toward different people. Did you not notice this?

He was pure EVIL to Flass and Falcone. He was respectful to Gordon. He was quiet but compassionate to the "Narrows Kid." He was kind to the homeless guy. He was invisible to the SWAT team. He was cool and aloof to Rachel.

THAT IS BATMAN. He is different things to different people. And it was captured right there on screen. HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE THAT?!?!?!?!

Well Wesyeed just said it for me.

But Please don't confuse I like Keaton better with I don't like Bale.

I do like bale. Just not as much. I like the constant of keaton's Callculated performance. I also like bales but he was a bit too out of controll for me.

Is Bales Batman a good Batman? yes. Just not the one i prefer.

Keaton was able to whisper "I'm batman" and it gives me to this day can give me a chill and make me not want to meet him in an alley.

Bale seemed coked up with his wanna be death growl.:0

[my0pic_spidey]

how come nobody voted for the self-proclaimed "batman of the silver age" adam west?

Keyser: i agree with you on bale's great performance,the reaction type manner guy,he reciprocates to different people with different sides to him,that was very nice.:up:

Wesyeed: Im with you too on Keatons eyes.I dont have that pic but he looks creepy in the dim lighting when he incapacitates the asian guy in the (nuts?) with his batclaw and looked up.You can watch that again.And yes that pussy lips behind a cowl sends a don't **** around with me or i will dazzle you with some movie cliches **** look.Also i like his non-chatty quiet emotionally distant looked as bats

voice: Keaton wins imo

I can't say who's the better batman(if i were sitting on the fence or not a fan) but i pick keaton because i prefer his delivery.I like bale's angry approach too,thats certainly badass and fearful but i like the hardcore non chatty no nonsense brooding method of keaton's.

And That does not make him the better batman

[superpower]

So you prefer a churlish, petulant man-child wrapped in rubber? That's your hero?

The thing I love about the way Batman was portrayed in "Begins" is that he acted differently toward different people. Did you not notice this?

He was pure EVIL to Flass and Falcone. He was respectful to Gordon. He was quiet but compassionate to the "Narrows Kid." He was kind to the homeless guy. He was invisible to the SWAT team. He was cool and aloof to Rachel.

THAT IS BATMAN. He is different things to different people. And it was captured right there on screen. HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE THAT?!?!?!?!

How can you think a batman saying "nice coat" is not overyly chatty?

[Whack Arnolds]

How can you think a batman saying "nice coat" is not overyly chatty?That was one instance, and it was only 2 words. That doesn't equal chatty. He talks to Gordon and others but that's about as wordy as he is in any batman comic. He is definetely not justified as being chatty, and when he does talk it sounds creepy as hell. Plus this Batman was heavily influenced by the O'neil and Loeb stories, where he actually discusses things with his partners in his "war on crime."

[superpower]

That was one instance, and it was only 2 words. That doesn't equal chatty. He talks to Gordon and others but that's about as wordy as he is in any batman comic. He is definetely not justified as being chatty, and when he does talk it sounds creepy as hell. Plus this Batman was heavily influenced by the O'neil and Loeb stories, where he actually discusses things with his partners in his "war on crime."

yeah. I'm not trying to take away from what he did. But that one instance is enough for me to dissmay him as too chatty. Heres another Imo Bat's should not only be mostly silent, but when he does speak he should be a man of few word. Don't say eight words if two will do; example in begins is when Ra's is about to board the monorail

Bats: you don't think i can handle two of your pawns (or somthing close)

What should he have said IMO "only two?" and if they wanted to put in a pun pointing to Falcone "only two? Im insulted" but for me that would have been over the top also.

things like that.

And yes the "nice coat" is only one instance but can you name something like that comming from Keaton?

[Whack Arnolds]

yeah. I'm not trying to take away from what he did. But that one instance is enough for me to dissmay him as too chatty. Heres another Imo Bat's should not only be mostly silent, but when he does speak he should be a man of few word. Don't say eight words if two will do; example in begins is when Ra's is about to board the monorail

Bats: you don't think i can handle two of your pawns (or somthing close)

What should he have said IMO "only two?" and if they wanted to put in a pun pointing to Falcone "only two? Im insulted" but for me that would have been over the top also.

things like that.

Ahh, I see what you mean...I didn't personally see anything wrong with it though. Different strokes....

And yes the "nice coat" is only one instance but can you name something like that comming from Keaton?No, but that doesn't necessarily make it bad. Because this wasn't Keaton's Batman, or his universe from those movies.

[superpower]

No, but that doesn't necessarily make it bad. Because this wasn't Keaton's Batman, or his universe from those movies.

Agreed they were different entirly. And thats why I have to go with Keaton. He didn't have any silly one liners, and the one liners he did have (can't think of one but I know they were there) he pulled off while keeping it cool to me and didn't make it feel Foreverish.

I know that is a real a$$holeish thing to compair it to forever, but it totaly (im talking the nice coat line) reminded me of kilmer saying he'll get take out.

[JLBats]

yeah. I'm not trying to take away from what he did. But that one instance is enough for me to dissmay him as too chatty. Heres another Imo Bat's should not only be mostly silent, but when he does speak he should be a man of few word. Don't say eight words if two will do; example in begins is when Ra's is about to board the monorail

Bats: you don't think i can handle two of your pawns (or somthing close)

What should he have said IMO "only two?" and if they wanted to put in a pun pointing to Falcone "only two? Im insulted" but for me that would have been over the top also.

things like that.

And yes the "nice coat" is only one instance but can you name something like that comming from Keaton?

Eat floor. High fiber.

[superpower]

Eat floor. High fiber.

Well there's one now isn't it.:up:

[JLBats]

Well there's one now isn't it.:up:

:) :up:

The only line I didn't particularly like in the Burton films, actually.

[The Chairman]

Both were of their time. Keaton was the right choice then, and Bale is the right choice now. To compare them is silly. They both do different variations of the roles in my opinion. Keaton was a rich loner who was the last person you would expect to be Batman. Bale played a more charismatic Wayne who kept a hint of mystery about him. So, you really can't compare them. Both did excellent jobs.

If I had to choose, I'd certainly pick Keaton because A) I'm a purist and B) He was a better Batman. I still really thought Bale was great, though.

[DarkKnightJRK]

Eat floor. High fiber.

Well, it's a much better line than "Nice coat," so I won't count it. :D

[BK]

Both were of their time. Keaton was the right choice then...
Debatable. In retrospect he was not the best choice then (Baldwin gets that in my book), but he did a tremendously good job with the role.
Keaton was a rich loner who was the last person you would expect to be Batman.
Also debatable. The fact that he's rich and doesn't go out much would certainly make him a likely choice for a vigilante in the night with endless gadgets, no?

[J-MAN_Begins]

bruce vs. bruce- well they both played it so differently, burton was obviously trying to do something else with bruce, while nolan stuck to the comics. but i prefer keaton's mysterious and "jay gatsby" bruce wayne.

batman vs batman- bale was a guy in a suit who would kick your ass. keaton was batman who you kill you. i like keaton

[jtsteward]

I am a huge Keaton fan but Michael is now the 2nd best Batman behind Bale. Bale has a better Bruce Wayne and Batman

[Two-Face]

Christian Bale is the best Batman/Bruce Wayne, Keaton is my second choice too.

[superpower]

:) :up:

The only line I didn't particularly like in the Burton films, actually.

And that's one point. I'll give you that line but like you said its the only one. Hopfully Bale will have better and less dialog for the next (less as bats not bruce, bring on his bruce:up: )

It's amazing how even today (i watched 89 last night) he just dosn't have to do anything for his presence to be felt. When he grabbed Jack at Axis there was no jibber jabber, Jack just about crapped himself (hell i would have too) and to me that is in essence batman. He just does what he has to and thats a part of the character I love.

Now you can say talked to Catwoman, but face it he was trying to get those digits:up:

[JLBats]

Christian Bale is the best Batman/Bruce Wayne, Keaton is my second choice too.

Two Face, long time no see, welcome back!

[The Kid]

holy fantastic four, you're alive!

[Infinity9999x]

in terms of who was a better bruce wayne, Bale wins easily, but who was a better Batman is a bit tougher.

They both represented batmans of a diffrent style. Bale is more like Batman as he is in the comics today, in terms of how he fought, dissapered during conversations, attitude, ect.

Keaton's was more lke the DKR version, but even more disturbed I'd say (exp. Batman killing0 It's really hard to compare these two for me because I like both styles. I'll always love Keatons batman, because that was teh first time I had ever seen a sirus interpretation of the character. But I'll always love Bale's because it showed us a Batman more true to the recent comics.

I can't choose, It's too hard. i like both. Both Batman's that is, because like I said, Keaton's wayne was good, but Bale really nailed it.

[Infinity9999x]

holy fantastic four, you're alive!

lol ya, there was a whole thread about wheter you were still breathing or not, you got some people worried.

Nice to see you again.

[Two-Face]

Two Face, long time no see, welcome back!


Yeah thanks, glad to be back. I needed a break.



BATMAN BEGINS ROCKS!!

[Duneboy]

No matter what anyone thinks, 1989's BatMan is still visually untouchable & it's box office #'s are intimidating. BB was great too, especially since it was a whole new story & team making the film. A majority of people always think Tim Burton when mentioning BatMan in cinema.

[The Sage]

Debatable. In retrospect he was not the best choice then (Baldwin gets that in my book), but he did a tremendously good job with the role.


I agree.

Baldwin, he would've been good.

[BatmanRules33]

I agree.

Baldwin, he would've been good.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAH, BALDWIN, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!:down

looks like the poll is almost tied, hmm...gues keaton is better then everyone says:up: :p

KEATON RULES DAMNIT!

[BatmanRules33]

No matter what anyone thinks, 1989's BatMan is still visually untouchable & it's box office #'s are intimidating. BB was great too, especially since it was a whole new story & team making the film. A majority of people always think Tim Burton when mentioning BatMan in cinema.

RIGHT ON DAMNIOT, SHOW ME THE MOOOONEY!!

[JLBats]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH, BALDWIN, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!:down

looks like the poll is almost tied, hmm...gues keaton is better then everyone says:up: :p

KEATON RULES DAMNIT!

Go to hell. Even when we agree with you you act like a jackass, and make yourself look like an idiot with stupid beliefs and arguments that are nonsensical. Ooh, the poll is almost tied... who is ahead, ****ing *****?!:mad:

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Bale - the best Bruce Wayne
Keaton - the best Batman

That's why would be interesting to divide these polls in a best Batman and another on the best Bruce Wayne, because I know alot of ppl say that like Bale better (not all of them are hardcore fans as us but it's serves as an example) but then they use as proof his scenes as Bruce. So I think that algo gives an unfair edge to Bale, while many vote for Keaton basically for his portrayal of Batman even though his portrayal of Bruce good enough, which is exactly what I think of Bale's Batman, which I think was a good Year One Batman but not the established version which is the most known and the one Keaton played.
I can't really compare him to Keaton until I see Bale play the established/mythic Batman in an upcoming sequel.

[Proximo]

Bale is the better Playboy Bruce Wayne
Keaton is the better Psycho scared Bruce Wayne

Bale is a good Batman
Keaton IS Batman, To me he is so freaking Badass you can get and those killer eye's he got just make it even better.


http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2891/batoutofhell9bh.jpg
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/5861/0075cf.jpg
Keaton Wins


http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/1083/bats24jk.jpg
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2918/batman075wl.jpg
Keaton Wins

[jtsteward]

No actually this is Batman
http://www.omelete.com.br/imagens/cinema/news/batman_begins/bat_montagem_omelete.jpg http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/batman_begins/_group_photos/christian_bale13.jpghttp://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/batman_begins/christian_bale/batmanbegins12.jpg http://www.christophernolan.net/images/wbatman25.jpg http://www.christophernolan.net/images/batman-begins03.jpg http://www.christophernolan.net/images/batman-begins10.jpg http://www.christophernolan.net/images/batman-begins22.jpg

[BK]

http://www.omelete.com.br/imagens/cinema/news/batman_begins/bat_montagem_omelete.jpg
This is what the suit should've looked like on film. Intimidating and just pure black. The pupil-less eyes also add to the scary factor.

Otherwise..

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2918/batman075wl.jpg

That is still the best suit aesthetically imo.

[BatmanRules33]

Go to hell. Even when we agree with you you act like a jackass, and make yourself look like an idiot with stupid beliefs and arguments that are nonsensical. Ooh, the poll is almost tied... who is ahead, ****ing *****?!:mad:

(YAAWN) will you shut your trap already, im tryin to enjoy this :)

[Proximo]

No actually this is Batman
http://www.christophernolan.net/images/batman-begins10.jpg http://www.christophernolan.net/images/batman-begins22.jpg

Nah... I dont like the light theme they went for, atleast on those promo pics.

Plus this is the real batman... A real Badass Batman that keep all the pain in for himself and keep fighting while showing he is not damaged.. even do he is in real pain whit broken ribs(?) etc..
http://www.photohosting.info/uploads/9837036c2f.jpg (http://www.photohosting.info/)

Bale however he got burned a few sec, Jump out from the window, Lands on a car wich take up some of the fall. then struggled up on the roof.. and crying for help to Alfred.

Keaton's Batman took a air plane crash.. walked hundreds of stairs in pain, he couldnt use the grappling gun because the bad condition on the wood in the building.
He even fight in pain once he got up there... Now that is BADASS!

[JLBats]

(YAAWN) will you shut your trap already, im tryin to enjoy this :)

I AGREE with you?! Why the **** are you still flaming me?!

[jtsteward]

Nah... I dont like the light theme they went for, atleast on those promo pics.

Plus this is the real batman... A real Badass Batman that keep all the pain in for himself and keep fighting while showing he is not damaged.. even do he is in real pain whit broken ribs(?) etc..
http://www.photohosting.info/uploads/9837036c2f.jpg (http://www.photohosting.info/)

Bale however he got burned a few sec, Jump out from the window, Lands on a car wich take up some of the fall. then struggled up on the roof.. and crying for help to Alfred.

Keaton's Batman took a air plane crash.. walked hundreds of stairs in pain, he couldnt use the grappling gun because the bad condition on the wood in the building.
He even fight in pain once he got up there... Now that is BADASS!

He got set on fire not to mention had a toxic substance in his system. He lived through that not that is BADASS. I am glad they got Keaton a step ladder for Batman and Returns so he would look big enough.

[Milkman95]

Bale. Quite easily.......

-Physically better for the role.
-Nailed BOTH parts of the role (even though Bale did FOUR parts).
-Had better dialogue (Out of Bale's and Keaton's control)
-Younger
-Just a better all-around actor..........

[BK]

FOUR parts? :confused:

[greenlantern530]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/MWizzle/BatoutofHell.jpg


v.s.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/MWizzle/ritts04.jpg

In comparison, Keaton looks Comical.

Bale Dammit! :up:

[JLBats]

FOUR parts? :confused:

Young Bruce, real Bruce, Fake Bruce, Batman Bruce

[The Batman]

He got set on fire not to mention had a toxic substance in his system. He lived through that not that is BADASS. I am glad they got Keaton a step ladder for Batman and Returns so he would look big enough.

Thats not badass.

All Bale did was jump out a window and the fire ws gone like 5 seconds later.

Bale didnt do anything when he was under the toxin...except alot of screaming

[Cat_Woman108]

Here's how I see it, Keaton was cool....Bale was the badass. Thst's the point of Batman though, if he looks crazy and capable of anything with his emotions, he must do that to remain overlord of the underworld and crime. If he's just cool and calm in a Batsuit....its not near as intimidating. It's like "hey criminal, check out my batsuit and how I look detached from anything that is happening"....Bale's Batman plays up the detail that there is a thin line between Batman and his villains. If he lets the emotion get the best of him, he could be just as evil as they are (and this is a theme from the comics). If you wanted to scare lethal criminals, wondering around in a batsuit wouldn't be enough. You would have to create and aura around yourself, and Bale does that by acting like a creature and showing the internal rage (where at times he looks borderline psycho) he has kept inside of him and he focuses all that rage through Batman. It truly is a much more complicated outlook and potrayl of Batman than in B89...but both have their pros and cons.

Very well said Nuk Nuk! :up: :)

[my0pic_spidey]

Bale was intoxicated,he cried for alfred who came to him and was cured later.
keaton survived the explosion that nearly killed him,which he didn't and because he had a narrow escape had grievious bodily injuries,alfred was not there to help him,and he had to climb the bloddy stairwell all the way to the top,no one was there to help him AT ALL,and ray charles was hurling explosive punches in all directions..straight,arching paths..up down left right and centre uuuh...

[Milkman95]

Young Bruce, real Bruce, Fake Bruce, Batman Bruce

Thank you JL. The range demonstrated by Bale here gives him the nod.............

[greenlantern530]

Bale is the better Playboy Bruce Wayne
Keaton is the better Psycho scared Bruce Wayne

Bale is a good Batman
Keaton IS Batman, To me he is so freaking Badass you can get and those killer eye's he got just make it even better.


Keaton Wins


Keaton Wins


No Burton does, with the cool lighting and atmosphere.

[greenlantern530]

Nah... I dont like the light theme they went for, atleast on those promo pics.

Plus this is the real batman... A real Badass Batman that keep all the pain in for himself and keep fighting while showing he is not damaged.. even do he is in real pain whit broken ribs(?) etc..
http://www.photohosting.info/uploads/9837036c2f.jpg (http://www.photohosting.info/)

Bale however he got burned a few sec, Jump out from the window, Lands on a car wich take up some of the fall. then struggled up on the roof.. and crying for help to Alfred.

Keaton's Batman took a air plane crash.. walked hundreds of stairs in pain, he couldnt use the grappling gun because the bad condition on the wood in the building.
He even fight in pain once he got up there... Now that is BADASS!

Pfft, Bale's Batman was under Crane's Fear Gas at that time, AND it was his 12t night, he was much more badass...

He Beats up about 5 homicidal maniacs, flies to Ra's, beats the **** outta about 10 TRAINED Ninjas, with relative ease, then hangs from a train, swings through the window and beats up an Immortal.

Keaton didn't do anything close.

[Milkman95]

Keaton barely even FOUGHT in his films..............he just stood around looking good.............

[Proximo]

Thats not badass.

All Bale did was jump out a window and the fire ws gone like 5 seconds later.

Bale didnt do anything when he was under the toxin...except alot of screaming

Word

[Proximo]

No Burton does, with the cool lighting and atmosphere.

And who played Batman? Keaton... = Best Batman ever.

[Boom]

Bale nailed Bruce Wayne.
Keaton nailed Batman.

If the two were combined together, I'd explode.

[Proximo]

Keaton barely even FOUGHT in his films..............he just stood around looking good.............

Keaton's fighting style IMO is way more "Badass" then bales.
Keaton stands in the dark, just watching the goons trying to impress him whit flips, knives etc... then he just lay off a chilling kick, defends some whit his gauntlets... to short it up... Keatons Batman doesnt try to do Circus moves.

And if you look through the movies again Keaton fought more then Bale in the batsuit, Plus the fight scenes in Burtons moives you can atleast see its Keaton/Batman..
In begins you can just see some ears.. but not who is in the suit during the bat fight scenes.

[Proximo]

In comparison, Keaton looks Comical.

Bale Dammit! :up:

Thats why i posted a better picture whit Keaton.

Nuk Nuk choise the pictures there Keaton looks goofy and then take Bales best pictures, Trying to make keaton look like a fool.

Keaton damnit!

[my0pic_spidey]

Bale nailed Bruce Wayne.
Keaton nailed Batman.

If the two were combined together, I'd explode.

you mean like how banner merged with the 2 hulks to become the banner hulk
:confused: nah..not possible

[Boom]

you mean like how banner merged with the 2 hulks to become the banner hulk
:confused: nah..not possible
You lost me :confused:.

[TheJuice]

Although Keaton gave a good perfomance, Bale is simply better for the part. Bale looks the part of both Bruce and Batman. Keaton is/was too small, short and too skinny. Plus, Bale didnt need fake muscles for his Batsuit. Bale was jakked up, where Keaton clearly was not, hence the fake muscles.

[Milkman95]

Keaton's fighting style IMO is way more "Badass" then bales.
Keaton stands in the dark, just watching the goons trying to impress him whit flips, knives etc... then he just lay off a chilling kick, defends some whit his gauntlets... to short it up... Keatons Batman doesnt try to do Circus moves.

And if you look through the movies again Keaton fought more then Bale in the batsuit, Plus the fight scenes in Burtons moives you can atleast see its Keaton/Batman..
In begins you can just see some ears.. but not who is in the suit during the bat fight scenes.

Here we go again. Bale's Batman used technique's that would take one thug out at a time, causing the other's to crap their pants. Bale's way was more efficient, and "scarier" on film, especially his first appearance.

Bale NEVER did circus moves either, he was fast and efficient with taking people out quickly. Which film did you watch by the way? I'm watching my copy now and there's no circus moves to be seen..........

[my0pic_spidey]

Keaton's fighting style IMO is way more "Badass" then bales.
Keaton stands in the dark, just watching the goons trying to impress him whit flips, knives etc... then he just lay off a chilling kick, defends some whit his gauntlets... to short it up... Keatons Batman doesnt try to do Circus moves.

And if you look through the movies again Keaton fought more then Bale in the batsuit, Plus the fight scenes in Burtons moives you can atleast see its Keaton/Batman..
In begins you can just see some ears.. but not who is in the suit during the bat fight scenes.

yeah.kinda like bruce lee fighting the italian mafiosi in the back alley.Blank faced.Just calm with an intuitive instinctive mind,ever ready to dissect his opponents.And then when they come just one or two moves *BIFF* *BAM* *POW* and there senseless

[my0pic_spidey]

Thats why i posted a better picture whit Keaton.

Nuk Nuk choise the pictures there Keaton looks goofy and then take Bales best pictures, Trying to make keaton look like a fool.

Keaton damnit!

Unfortunately,there ain no pics out there with bale looking goofy..lol unless u can find the "batburger face"

[TheJuice]

Keaton's fighting style IMO is way more "Badass" then bales.
Keaton stands in the dark, just watching the goons trying to impress him whit flips, knives etc... then he just lay off a chilling kick, defends some whit his gauntlets... to short it up... Keatons Batman doesnt try to do Circus moves.


Well, that's only because Keaton could barely move in that 75 pound suit. If he did too much, he would tire out quickly.

[Proximo]

Unfortunately,there ain no pics out there with bale looking goofy..lol unless u can find the "batburger face"

Haha thats true ;)

[my0pic_spidey]

Here we go again. Bale's Batman used technique's that would take one thug out at a time, causing the other's to crap their pants. Bale's way was more efficient, and "scarier" on film, especially his first appearance.

Bale NEVER did circus moves either, he was fast and efficient with taking people out quickly. Which film did you watch by the way? I'm watching my copy now and there's no circus moves to be seen..........

Damn it,both styles are just too good for me.Keaton standing and waiting for **** to happen is good,and so is bale's swooping down and disappearing act a terrific visual.IMO Bale is more like a bat though.He really flies,as mentioned the huge cape that adds to the stigma of him being so batlike,he dives upside down grabs his opponents and reels himself up,while enshrouding his entire body with the cape omg that is so batlike..one thing that sucks is the fight scenes...it could have been better

[Proximo]

Here we go again. Bale's Batman used technique's that would take one thug out at a time, causing the other's to crap their pants. Bale's way was more efficient, and "scarier" on film, especially his first appearance.

Bale NEVER did circus moves either, he was fast and efficient with taking people out quickly. Which film did you watch by the way? I'm watching my copy now and there's no circus moves to be seen..........

I admit Bales first appearance was good, But it wasnt scary, atleast not for me..

Bale had a very diffrent fighting style then keaton had 16 years ago.
But i still think the Bale fighting style reminds of Kilmers and Clooney's, wich make it look a little campy like in the circus :P

I watched Batman Begins, We just have diffrent opinions.

[Timstuff]

BALE DANGIT!

Keaton looks like an armored Oompa Loompa in those publicity stills on the first page.

[Proximo]

Damn it,both styles are just too good for me.Keaton standing and waiting for **** to happen is good,and so is bale's swooping down and disappearing act a terrific visual.IMO Bale is more like a bat though.He really flies,as mentioned the huge cape that adds to the stigma of him being so batlike,he dives upside down grabs his opponents and reels himself up,while enshrouding his entire body with the cape omg that is so batlike..one thing that sucks is the fight scenes...it could have been better

I agree there..

[JLBats]

I doubt this will be solved. I like Bale and find him much more like the comics I like. You like Keaton and find him much more like... like Batman from a Tim Burton movie.

[Proximo]

Well, that's only because Keaton could barely move in that 75 pound suit. If he did too much, he would tire out quickly.

Yeah i know, Thats why i want Keaton to come back... As the Dark knight.. in a Fan movie.. commercial..... Just so we can see him fight in a better made Suit.
I watched White noise a few weeks ago and he looks pretty fit.
Im sure he could last for a Bat commercial or something,
Maybe not on the silver screen again.

[my0pic_spidey]

I admit Bales first appearance was good, But it wasnt scary, atleast not for me..

Bale had a very diffrent fighting style then keaton had 16 years ago.
But i still think the Bale fighting style reminds of Kilmers and Clooney's, wich make it look a little campy like in the circus :P

I watched Batman Begins, We just have diffrent opinions.

Bale's first appearance is great:) its also lasting, just as keaton did for me.
Bale is just so handsome that even when he's aggressive and supposed to look scary it doesn'rt freak me atoll...i just looked in the mirror and say damn i wish i had a face like that :D

[my0pic_spidey]

yeah man..its like having to choose between your dad and your mom..i can't do that:mad:

[Proximo]

yeah man..its like having to choose between your dad and your mom..i can't do that:mad:

Keaton is the Dad, Bale is the Mom:0

A Joke there:down

[my0pic_spidey]

A)ADAMN WEST
B)MICHAEL KEATON
C)CHRISTIAN BALE
D)VAL KILMER
E)GEORGE CLOONEY
F)NONE OF THE ABOVE

SO THE BEST BATMAN AWARD GOES TO.......................................

































ANSWER: (B) AND (C) OR ELSE ITS (F) DAMNIT

[Timstuff]

Bale.

[greenlantern530]

BALE DANGIT!

Keaton looks like an armored Oompa Loompa in those publicity stills on the first page.

bwahahaha

[greenlantern530]

Bale's first appearance is great:) its also lasting, just as keaton did for me.
Bale is just so handsome that even when he's aggressive and supposed to look scary it doesn'rt freak me atoll...i just looked in the mirror and say damn i wish i had a face like that :D

That's kinda gay dude.

[Milkman95]

There's no "right" answer here - Bale and Keaton BOTH OWNED in different interpretations of the character............

I like them both, I just happen to prefer Bale's, probably because it's closer to the source material................

[Whack Arnolds]

Thats why i posted a better picture whit Keaton.

Nuk Nuk choise the pictures there Keaton looks goofy and then take Bales best pictures, Trying to make keaton look like a fool.

Keaton damnit!!Not at all, I thought Keaton looked perfectly fine in thos pics. If anyone here thinks he looks like a fool, that's on them. But I wasn't putting up bad pictures of him.

[Whack Arnolds]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH, BALDWIN, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!:down

looks like the poll is almost tied, hmm...gues keaton is better then everyone says:up: :p

KEATON RULES DAMNIT!You might want to check that again...


But please tell me your math skills are as bad as your batman mythos knowledge.

[Whack Arnolds]

BALE DANGIT!

Keaton looks like an armored Oompa Loompa in those publicity stills on the first page.Hahaha, he should have re-united with Burton and he could have been Willy Wonka's right hand man in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. :up: :p


An Oompa Loompa in a bat costume, lol...... Keaton for Bat-Mite DAMMIT!! :p

[Whack Arnolds]

bump.....

[Lobster Charlie]

Keaton had the best Batman voice, but was kinda lame/dorky as Wayne. He came to life when he put on that suit, though.

I think Bale's Bruce Wayne was stronger, and his Batman...kind of a draw. He had some great lines but his voice was inconsistent. I think he wore the suit more confidently and was convincing overall, but the sum is greater than parts, if you understand what I mean.

[Whack Arnolds]

bump

[dark_knightwing]

Back in '89...

keaton batman: How much do you weigh?
Bale at 15: About a 108..I think
*Bale got grabbed by the collar and hoisted up in the air*
Bale at 15: Jesus!
Keaton batman: You weigh a lil' more than a 108!
Bale at 15: Oh really??
Keaton batman: Let's go.
*Goes to the edge of the building and threatens to drop bale off*
Bale at 15: Don't kill me!! Don't kill me man!! (2x)
Keaton batman: I'm not gonna kill you.BUT I DON'T HAVE TO SAVE YOU EITHER.Now before I drop you off,want you to do me a favour.Want you to tell all your friends about me.
*Bale pees in his pants*
Bale at 15: WHAT ARE YOU?!?!?!?!
Keaton batman: ............. I'M BATMAN.


Keaton bruce: Vicki what I'm trying to tell you is.... ..you see I-I-I- ...



I'M BATMAN! I'M BATMAN!

Joker: Bruce....Wayne? Nespa?
Keaton bruce: Most of the time...........



I'M BATMAN!


Keaton bruce: Look sometimes I don't know what to think of all this.It's just something I have to do.

Vale: WHY??

Keaton bruce: Because nobody else can.






Back in Returns...............



Selina Kyle: WOW.'D' Batman..Or..Is it just Batman?? Your choice,of course...

Shreck: And Bruce Wayne.Why are you dressed up like Batman?
Selina Kyle: Because he is BATMAN you moron(bale)
Shreck: WAS.AND WILL ALWAYS BE!!:) :)



In Begins.........

Ras: If you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal, you become something entirely....

Bale: Which is?

Ras: A RETARD....Mr BAT(E)MAN...

Ras: What...do you feaaaaaaaarrrrr....

Bale:Keaton...He's batman!!!

In the dock......

Bale in tight cowl: I'M BATMAN!!!
Falcone: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
You?? BATMAN?? YOU WITH THE BATBURGER FACE?? DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH KID,AND YOU WILL ALWAYS FEAR,WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND(KEATON)!!!

Bale: SWEAR TO ME!!!!
Flass: LOL.WHY SHOULD I?YOU DON'T OWN THE NIGHT(KNIGHT)>kEATON


Alfred: What's the point in doing hundreds of push ups when you can't even lift a bloody log???

Bale:Cos i'm not batman...:(


Alfred: WHy Bats?
Bale:Bats(keaton) frighten me.


Rachel: At least tell me your name.........
Bale in tight cowl: KEATON.

[Whack Arnolds]

Back in '89...

keaton batman: How much do you weigh?
Bale at 15: About a 108..I think
*Bale got grabbed by the collar and hoisted up in the air*
Bale at 15: Jesus!
Keaton batman: You weigh a lil' more than a 108!
Bale at 15: Oh really??
Keaton batman: Let's go.
*Goes to the edge of the building and threatens to drop bale off*
Bale at 15: Don't kill me!! Don't kill me man!! (2x)
Keaton batman: I'm not gonna kill you.BUT I DON'T HAVE TO SAVE YOU EITHER.Now before I drop you off,want you to do me a favour.Want you to tell all your friends about me.
*Bale pees in his pants*
Bale at 15: WHAT ARE YOU?!?!?!?!
Keaton batman: ............. I'M BATMAN.


Keaton bruce: Vicki what I'm trying to tell you is.... ..you see I-I-I- ...



I'M BATMAN! I'M BATMAN!

Joker: Bruce....Wayne? Nespa?
Keaton bruce: Most of the time...........



I'M BATMAN!


Back in Returns...............

Selina Kyle: WOW.'D' Batman..Or..Is it just Batman?? Your choice,of course...

Shreck: And Bruce Wayne.Why are you dressed up like Batman?
Selina Kyle: Because he is BATMAN you moron(bale)
Shreck: WAS.AND WILL ALWAYS BE!!:) :)



In Begins.........

Ras: If you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal, you become something entirely....

Bale: Which is?

Ras: A RETARD....Mr BAT(E)MAN...

Ras: What...do you feaaaaaaaarrrrr....

Bale:Keaton...He's batman!!!

In the dock......

Bale in tight cowl: I'M BATMAN!!!
Falcone: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
You?? BATMAN?? YOU WITH THE BATBURGER FACE?? DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH KID,AND YOU WILL ALWAYS FEAR,WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND(KEATON)!!!

Bale: SWEAR TO ME!!!!
Flass: LOL.WHY SHOULD I?YOU DON'T OWN THE NIGHT(KNIGHT)>kEATON


Alfred: What's the point in doing hundreds of push ups when you can't even lift a bloody log???

Bale:Cos i'm not batman...:(


Alfred: WHy Bats?
Bale:Bats(keaton) frighten me.


Rachel: At least tell me your name.........
Bale in tight cowl: KEATON.


KEATON for BAT-MITE DAMMITT!!!

[superpower]

Back in '89...

keaton batman: How much do you weigh?
Bale at 15: About a 108..I think
*Bale got grabbed by the collar and hoisted up in the air*
Bale at 15: Jesus!
Keaton batman: You weigh a lil' more than a 108!
Bale at 15: Oh really??
Keaton batman: Let's go.
*Goes to the edge of the building and threatens to drop bale off*
Bale at 15: Don't kill me!! Don't kill me man!! (2x)
Keaton batman: I'm not gonna kill you.BUT I DON'T HAVE TO SAVE YOU EITHER.Now before I drop you off,want you to do me a favour.Want you to tell all your friends about me.
*Bale pees in his pants*
Bale at 15: WHAT ARE YOU?!?!?!?!
Keaton batman: ............. I'M BATMAN.


Keaton bruce: Vicki what I'm trying to tell you is.... ..you see I-I-I- ...



I'M BATMAN! I'M BATMAN!

Joker: Bruce....Wayne? Nespa?
Keaton bruce: Most of the time...........



I'M BATMAN!


Keaton bruce: Look sometimes I don't know what to think of all this.It's just something I have to do.

Vale: WHY??

Keaton bruce: Because nobody else can.






Back in Returns...............



Selina Kyle: WOW.'D' Batman..Or..Is it just Batman?? Your choice,of course...

Shreck: And Bruce Wayne.Why are you dressed up like Batman?
Selina Kyle: Because he is BATMAN you moron(bale)
Shreck: WAS.AND WILL ALWAYS BE!!:) :)



In Begins.........

Ras: If you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal, you become something entirely....

Bale: Which is?

Ras: A RETARD....Mr BAT(E)MAN...

Ras: What...do you feaaaaaaaarrrrr....

Bale:Keaton...He's batman!!!

In the dock......

Bale in tight cowl: I'M BATMAN!!!
Falcone: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
You?? BATMAN?? YOU WITH THE BATBURGER FACE?? DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH KID,AND YOU WILL ALWAYS FEAR,WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND(KEATON)!!!

Bale: SWEAR TO ME!!!!
Flass: LOL.WHY SHOULD I?YOU DON'T OWN THE NIGHT(KNIGHT)>kEATON


Alfred: What's the point in doing hundreds of push ups when you can't even lift a bloody log???

Bale:Cos i'm not batman...:(


Alfred: WHy Bats?
Bale:Bats(keaton) frighten me.


Rachel: At least tell me your name.........
Bale in tight cowl: KEATON.

ROTFLMFAO thats hilarious.

[dark_knightwing]

KEATON for BAT-MAN DAMMITT!!!

agree

[Whack Arnolds]

ROTFLMFAO thats hilarious.It obviouslly took him all day to write.

[dark_knightwing]

It obviouslly took him all day to write.

nope.i don't have all day:o

[Whack Arnolds]

nope.i don't have all day:oIt was good for some brainless laughs. :up:

[dark_knightwing]

It was good for some brainless laughs. :up:

yep,for brainless people to laugh at

[Whack Arnolds]

yep,for brainless people to laugh atOr for brainless people to create? :confused:










Bale is still winning the majority of the vote. :o

[DocLathropBrown]

Back in '89...

keaton batman: How much do you weigh?
Bale at 15: About a 108..I think
*Bale got grabbed by the collar and hoisted up in the air*
Bale at 15: Jesus!
Keaton batman: You weigh a lil' more than a 108!
Bale at 15: Oh really??
Keaton batman: Let's go.
*Goes to the edge of the building and threatens to drop bale off*
Bale at 15: Don't kill me!! Don't kill me man!! (2x)
Keaton batman: I'm not gonna kill you.BUT I DON'T HAVE TO SAVE YOU EITHER.Now before I drop you off,want you to do me a favour.Want you to tell all your friends about me.
*Bale pees in his pants*
Bale at 15: WHAT ARE YOU?!?!?!?!
Keaton batman: ............. I'M BATMAN.


Keaton bruce: Vicki what I'm trying to tell you is.... ..you see I-I-I- ...



I'M BATMAN! I'M BATMAN!

Joker: Bruce....Wayne? Nespa?
Keaton bruce: Most of the time...........



I'M BATMAN!


Keaton bruce: Look sometimes I don't know what to think of all this.It's just something I have to do.

Vale: WHY??

Keaton bruce: Because nobody else can.






Back in Returns...............



Selina Kyle: WOW.'D' Batman..Or..Is it just Batman?? Your choice,of course...

Shreck: And Bruce Wayne.Why are you dressed up like Batman?
Selina Kyle: Because he is BATMAN you moron(bale)
Shreck: WAS.AND WILL ALWAYS BE!!:) :)



In Begins.........

Ras: If you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal, you become something entirely....

Bale: Which is?

Ras: A RETARD....Mr BAT(E)MAN...

Ras: What...do you feaaaaaaaarrrrr....

Bale:Keaton...He's batman!!!

In the dock......

Bale in tight cowl: I'M BATMAN!!!
Falcone: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
You?? BATMAN?? YOU WITH THE BATBURGER FACE?? DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH KID,AND YOU WILL ALWAYS FEAR,WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND(KEATON)!!!

Bale: SWEAR TO ME!!!!
Flass: LOL.WHY SHOULD I?YOU DON'T OWN THE NIGHT(KNIGHT)>kEATON


Alfred: What's the point in doing hundreds of push ups when you can't even lift a bloody log???

Bale:Cos i'm not batman...:(


Alfred: WHy Bats?
Bale:Bats(keaton) frighten me.


Rachel: At least tell me your name.........
Bale in tight cowl: KEATON.

My favorite is Michael Keaton, and even I view your post as pathetic.

Keaton was fantastic, but move on, Jeez. When Begins comes out on DVD, it's getting a place of honor on my shelf right next to B89 and Returns.

[Whack Arnolds]

My favorite is Michael Keaton, and even I view your post as pathetic.

Keaton was fantastic, but move on, Jeez. When Begins comes out on DVD, it's getting a place of honor on my shelf right next to B89 and Returns.Real Talk. :up:

[DocLathropBrown]

Seriously. MK has moved on. Why can't most people? You don't have to defend him to-the-hilt to show that you like his performance. If you wanna like it, fine. If you feel his performance was better, fine. But don't cram it down anyone's throat! That goes for the Bale fans too, but this vestigal attachment to MK after it's over and done and the wonderful Bale has taken over just feels pathetic and almost insecure. Seriously, all of these threads that pit the two should be outlawed. It's just an excuse for the hardcore Keatonites to show how threatened they seem to feel by someone being as good as Keaton. This didn't happen before now because Kilmer and Clooney couldn't really compete. But now that there's an actor that's as good as Keaton was, seems most people feel insecure and threatened.

Honestly.... Michael Keaton and Christian Bale both kick all kinds of ass. Let it go.

[Whack Arnolds]

Well, it's a much better line than "Nice coat," so I won't count it. :DWhat about "You weigh alittle more than 108." that line wasn't even needed, as it too was meant for comedy, and sucked at it.

[Whack Arnolds]

This is what the suit should've looked like on film. Intimidating and just pure black. The pupil-less eyes also add to the scary factor.

Otherwise..
It was all black.... If you prefer the shiny, glossy, Forever style black...that's you man.



That is still the best suit aesthetically imo.
Agreed. :o

[DocLathropBrown]

What about "You weigh alittle more than 108." that line wasn't even needed, as it too was meant for comedy, and sucked at it.

Actually, it wasn't meant for comedy. That's why it "didn't work." It was for story progression. He asked how much she weighed so he could calculate their combined weight and know if the Speargun's motors would be able to reel them both up to the catwalk above. Because Vicki lied is why they didn't make it all the way.

Now please tell me you didn't already know that. I'd like to think you're better off than that!

And for what it's worth, I loved the "Nice Coat" line. I didn't laugh given the gravity of the scene, but it certainly made me smile.

[Whack Arnolds]

Actually, it wasn't meant for comedy. That's why it "didn't work." It was for story progression. He asked how much she weighed so he could calculate their combined weight and know if the Speargun's motors would be able to reel them both up to the catwalk above. Because Vicki lied is why they didn't make it all the way.Well the situation was over and finished when he said it...so it really didn't matter. It was meant for some comedy. You know how girls always lie about their weight.... And then Batman calls her upon it. It was meant for humor.

[theBat-Man]

Keaton:
He is the most mysterious and deadly Batman. He has the glare, the voice. He really brought Batman to life as a dark character on film. Since Keaton created his idea of how the character should be on film, pretty much everyone has tried to emulate it...right down to the gruff voice. Even in the animated series they try to do that voice. A lot of Keaton's physical characteristics helped show batman's eerieness, already mentioned the glare, also Keaton has a really creepy looking face when you take a long look, especially his mouth, which always looks contorted. His dual performance as Bruce Wayne and Batman shows Keaton is a extremely versatile awesome actor. Michael Keaton supports the whole duality. He's funny (Bruce Wayne) and dramatic (Batman). Michael Keaton's personality tunes into those differences, making him the perfect choice. He has a temper and a great amount of anger, animal-like-that is exactly Batman.
http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_multimedia/bat_art/pics_big/Batmans_eyes.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/batmanr.jpg
http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_multimedia/bat_art/pics_big/spread_wings.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/batkiten.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/?)

[DocLathropBrown]

Like usual, you've re-posted something you've posted over-and-over again from other threads. I wouldn't be surprised if somebody else wrote that spiel...

[Whack Arnolds]

Like usual, you've re-posted something you've posted over-and-over again from other threads. I wouldn't be surprised if somebody else wrote that spiel...Haha, you noticed that too? :up:

[DocLathropBrown]

Yeah, I never thought I'd admit to it, but now I see what some people were saying. People here are starting to get on my nerves. Especially theBat-man, who is like a Terminator right off the assembly line with his CPU set to Read-Only. Meaning he does and says the same thing repeatedly, is highly monotonus, and can't learn anything.

[theBat-Man]

Like usual, you've re-posted something you've posted over-and-over again from other threads. I wouldn't be surprised if somebody else wrote that spiel...

What the hell is your problem? I've never posted this before. You think somebody else wrote this? To many of you just come on here just to start fights, rather then a love for the characters.

[DocLathropBrown]

Funny, because I do come here for the love of the character, not to fight, but you seem not to care that you often insinuate fights yourself, with your annoying distortion of the message board format by posting giant pictures, and typing the same things over and over. Often re-iterating the same point you've made before. And sometimes more than once in a single thread! A post by you over in the comics section has your same post re done THEE TIMES when someone disagreed with you. And not in a row, either. Over the corse of two pages you posted the same, lengthly uninspired and uninformative post thrice.

You never learn things, almost never concede in arguments, and are a broken record. Your spiel about MK here contains the exact same text you posted in a thread defending Keaton somewhere else, particularly the part about a contorted mouth. Which, by the way, is quite a strange thing to note, as his mouth is quite normal. I think what you wanted to say was that his "mouth wrinkles" are more prominant.

And if it's not 100% the same, you changed maybe one word. I'm betting your real name off the boards is "Pete Repeat..."

[igotatromboner]

Keaton:
He is the most mysterious and deadly Batman. He has the glare, the voice. He really brought Batman to life as a dark character on film. Since Keaton created his idea of how the character should be on film, pretty much everyone has tried to emulate it...right down to the gruff voice. Even in the animated series they try to do that voice. A lot of Keaton's physical characteristics helped show batman's eerieness, already mentioned the glare, also Keaton has a really creepy looking face when you take a long look, especially his mouth, which always looks contorted. His dual performance as Bruce Wayne and Batman shows Keaton is a extremely versatile awesome actor. Michael Keaton supports the whole . He's funny (Bruce Wayne) and dramatic (Batman). Michael Keaton's personality tunes into those differences, making him the perfect choice. He has a temper and a great amount of anger, animal-like-that is exactly Batman.
http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_multimedia/bat_art/pics_big/Batmans_eyes.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/batmanr.jpg
http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_multimedia/bat_art/pics_big/spread_wings.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/batkiten.jpg (http://photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/?)



God forbid a man dressed like a bat trying to scare the crap out of criminals have a deeper voice. Sorry dude, Keaton did it but it's not like nobody else wouldn't have.

[Whack Arnolds]

Well here's the thing, I like Keaton...he did an excellent job for what he had written for him. But I'm not so into him that I can't admit when someone pulls off the part in a more complete manner. I hold Keaton and Bale was the greatest actors to play the character, but you can be objective and put opinions and preference aside and say who actually played Bruce Wayne / Batman better.

[theBat-Man]

Funny, because I do come here for the love of the character, not to fight, but you seem not to care that you often insinuate fights yourself, with your annoying distortion of the message board format by posting giant pictures, and typing the same things over and over. Often re-iterating the same point you've made before. And sometimes more than once in a single thread! A post by you over in the comics section has your same post re done THEE TIMES when someone disagreed with you. And not in a row, either. Over the corse of two pages you posted the same, lengthly uninspired and uninformative post thrice.

You never learn things, almost never concede in arguments, and are a broken record. Your spiel about MK here contains the exact same text you posted in a thread defending Keaton somewhere else, particularly the part about a contorted mouth. Which, by the way, is quite a strange thing to note, as his mouth is quite normal. I think what you wanted to say was that his "mouth wrinkles" are more prominant.

And if it's not 100% the same, you changed maybe one word. I'm betting your real name off the boards is "Pete Repeat..."

The part of my post about Keaton's mouth I have posted before.
The only time I ever posted about Keaton's mouth looking contorted was August 5, 2005 on the Worst Batman Pictures thread, and I was not defending Keaton, I was defending Kelley Jones Gothic macarbe art. My post said:

Max Schreck/Christopher Walken is really not normal looking at all. Also Keaton has a really creepy looking face when you take a long look, especially his mouth, which always looks contorted.
My post now is clearly not just a re-post of that post.
Also anyone can see for themselves all of my posts by clicking on my name theBat-Man, and clicking on Find More Posts by theBat-Man. Clearly I'm not just typing the same things over and over again any more then anybody else here making a point and geting caught up in an argument. The only post I've re-posted on the same thread over again was on the Worst Batman Pictures Thread because they all seemed to be missing it, and my point seemed to be going over there heads. And even that was not a total re-post. I was explaining that gothic horror is perfect for Batman. And that post is very informative. My post said:

Kelley Jones macabre horror art is wrong for Batman? People say the same thing about Tim Burton's Batman films. That his atmospheric Gothic style in Batman (1989) and Batman Returns was to weird and wrong for Batman. They are wrong. Atmospheric Gothic horror is what Batman is all about. Batman is not really a superhero. He has not superpowers. He is a creature of the night. Striking terror. Batman was heavily influenced by the atmosphere of Gothic horror films.
The Bat (1926) inspired Batman's costume.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/thebat1926.jpg
Batman's long cape billowing out behind him, swirling about him, endowing him with an air of mystery was inspired by Dracula with Bela Lugosi.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/bela.bmp
The Joker was inspired by the Man Who Laughs (1928)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/manwholaughs.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/manwholaughs1.jpg
Two-Face was inspired by Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/hyde.bmp
Clayface was inspired by Boris Karloff (Basil Karlo is an allusion to Boris Karloff) and Lon Chaney in the Phantom of the Opera.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/boris.bmphttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/phantom1.bmp
Oh, I never learn things? What should I be learning here? That Keaton is 5'7''? Wrong, he is 5'10". That Tim Burton's Batman films are nothing like the comics? Wrong. That Batman never killed in the comics like he did in Tim Burton's Batman films? Wrong. That Tim Burton betrayed us? He did not. That Batman Begins is the comic book on film? Not really, no. That Kelley Jones cant draw? Wrong, he can draw.
Keaton's mouth is not "normal" to me at all. Mouth wrinkles is not what I wanted to say. It is a strange thing to note, and I'm a strange guy.
So I'm annoying? Good to know. "Pete Repeat"? Is your name "Wannabe Critic"? Because about all you do is criticize other posters.
Now get back on topic.

[BK]

It was all black.... If you prefer the shiny, glossy, Forever style black...that's you man.
No, that's not what I want. Most of the film Bats' suit was just off in color. It was prolly the lighting they used on him, because I know the suit could look much more darker in appearance. Case in point: the Flass interrogation, and the last rooftop scene.

[Dangerous]

Bale was way better at both Bats/Wayne, suck it Keaton fanboys.

[JLBats]

Bale was way better at both Bats/Wayne, suck it Keaton fanboys.

I don't get how this is even a question. Bale Damnit.

[DocLathropBrown]

Bale was way better at both Bats/Wayne, suck it Keaton fanboys.

My my, now THAT's intelligent.

How about giving us some reasons, or do you prefur looking like you have an IQ of two?

[Phantasm]

BALE IS BATMAN

Bale rocked so hard as Batman that now Keaton has a real reason to walk around all pouty!

[Two-Face]

For me Christian Bale is the best Batman/Bruce Wayne, his acting is great and he has dark version of Keaton and playboy charms of Val Kilmer.

[BatmanRules33]

i dont watch batman for bruce wayne, i watch it for batman with some bruce wayne.

in short, **** begins. **** bale. keaton is the dark knight. burtons gotham is kickass and looks beautful, just as i always pictured it. gotham is not chicago.


KEATON AND BURTON RULES!!:up: :up:

great pics BTW theBat-man:)

[BatmanRules33]

http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_multimedia/bat_art/pics_big/Batmans_eyes.jpg

I AM VENGIANCE





http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/batmanr.jpg


I AM THE NIGHT




http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_multimedia/bat_art/pics_big/spread_wings.jpg
I AM BATMAN.

[JLBats]

i dont watch batman for bruce wayne, i watch it for batman with some bruce wayne.

in short, **** begins. **** bale. keaton is the dark knight. burtons gotham is kickass and looks beautful, just as i always pictured it. gotham is not chicago.


KEATON AND BURTON RULES!!:up: :up:

great pics BTW theBat-man:)





Uh.... the way you pictured it? You realise the pretty words in a comic have actual PICTURES too, and Burton's Gotham looks nothing like it:confused:


Give one reasonable answer. Why is Burton's Batman better than Nolan's? Don't go on a "Keaton is da man(SMILEY SMILEY SMILEY)" rant. That makes you look like a retarded troll.

[Two-Face]

He was Batman, now its Bale's turn.

[BatmanRules33]

Uh.... the way you pictured it? You realise the pretty words in a comic have actual PICTURES too, and Burton's Gotham looks nothing like it:confused:


Give one reasonable answer. Why is Burton's Batman better than Nolan's? Don't go on a "Keaton is da man(SMILEY SMILEY SMILEY)" rant. That makes you look like a retarded troll.

actually what you just said was what a retarted troll would say. HA.

and yes, i will:




**** bale. he aint no batman. wannabe!!!

and stop passing off gotham NOT looking like burtons as fact. it aint.:)

[BatmanRules33]

He was Batman, now its Bale's turn.

doesnt mean bale is/will beat keaton. still hasnt. hmm....:down

[JLBats]

actually what you just said was what a retarted troll would say. HA.

and yes, i will:




**** bale. he aint no batman. wannabe!!!

and stop passing off gotham NOT looking like burtons as fact. it aint.:)

You're seven years old, aren't you? Everytime I say something you come back with "No, you are! BALE IS A POSER!"

God, how are you not banned? I LOVE Burton's films. But when I talk to you? I hate them. If you have nothing to add to the argument but inane chatter about Keaton, blah, Bale poser, blah, then stay the **** away from the thread and let people with higher IQ then a lampshade do the work.

[BatmanRules33]

You're seven years old, aren't you? Everytime I say something you come back with "No, you are! BALE IS A POSER!"

God, how are you not banned? I LOVE Burton's films. But when I talk to you? I hate them. If you have nothing to add to the argument but inane chatter about Keaton, blah, Bale poser, blah, then stay the **** away from the thread and let people with higher IQ then a lampshade do the work.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, HIGHER IQ, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!:up: good one, you just made my day wioth that!!:) :up:

[JLBats]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, HIGHER IQ, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!:up: good one, you just made my day wioth that!!:) :up:

There you go, completely dodging the issue again. Leave the boards. Or learn to make any sense at all. Ok?

[BatmanRules33]

There you go, completely dodging the issue again. Leave the boards. Or learn to make any sense at all. Ok?


nah i think ill just stay here and make your life miserable :D :joker:

[JLBats]

nah i think ill just stay here and make your life miserable :D :joker:

You just perfectly described what a troll does.

[The Demon's Head]

Bale. He was everything Batman should be.

[JLBats]

Bale. He was everything Batman should be.

Tell that to BatmanRules, except he'll come back with "NO IT WASN'T, BURTON WAS, LALALALALALAAL!"

[DocLathropBrown]

I used to think BatmanRules was one of the more intelligent people here, but now I come to this thread.....

Somebody report this guy. He refuses to respect other people's opinions and by doing so, all he does is spam.

[Nightwing1977]

Christian Bale for me. There just something about him that I dig a lot as Bruce Wayne/Batman. Don't get me wrong, I like Michael Keaton ever since I saw Batman89 as a kid. But there are some problem I have with him such as his height, the scrawny built (which is why his Bat suit look like it has muscles & it so bulky), the reclining hair (since when is Bruce Wayne suppose to be losing hair), his Bruce Wayne's acting, etc. He just didn't sound much different betweem Bruce & Batman with the voice. Bale has won me over more than Michael Keaton. I'm glad they pick Bale. :)

And btw, I'm new here. Nice to be part of this. Been a lurker here for awhile.

[JLBats]

I used to think BatmanRules was one of the more intelligent people here, but now I come to this thread.....

Somebody report this guy. He refuses to respect other people's opinions and by doing so, all he does is spam.

It's sad, because I agree with some of the stuff he says but he says it in very stupid ways and makes me want to flame him.

[JLBats]

Christian Bale for me. There just something about him that I dig a lot as Bruce Wayne/Batman. Don't get me wrong, I like Michael Keaton ever since I saw Batman89 as a kid. But there are some problem I have with him such as his height, the scrawny built (which is why his Bat suit look like it has muscles & it so bulky), the reclining hair (since when is Bruce Wayne suppose to be losing hair), etc. Bale has won me over more than Michael Keaton. I'm glad they pick Bale. :)

And btw, I'm new here. Nice to be part of this. Been a lurker here for awhile.

Hey, welcome to the Hype, I agree with you.

[Nightwing1977]

Hey, welcome to the Hype, I agree with you.

Thanks, man. That was quick you replied. ;)

[Two-Face]

Christian Bale for me. There just something about him that I dig a lot as Bruce Wayne/Batman. Don't get me wrong, I like Michael Keaton ever since I saw Batman89 as a kid. But there are some problem I have with him such as his height, the scrawny built (which is why his Bat suit look like it has muscles & it so bulky), the reclining hair (since when is Bruce Wayne suppose to be losing hair), his Bruce Wayne's acting, etc. He just didn't sound much different betweem Bruce & Batman with the voice. Bale has won me over more than Michael Keaton. I'm glad they pick Bale. :)

And btw, I'm new here. Nice to be part of this. Been a lurker here for awhile.



I agree with you too. :up:

[Keyser Sushi]

Christian Bale for me. There just something about him that I dig a lot as Bruce Wayne/Batman. Don't get me wrong, I like Michael Keaton ever since I saw Batman89 as a kid. But there are some problem I have with him such as his height, the scrawny built (which is why his Bat suit look like it has muscles & it so bulky), the reclining hair (since when is Bruce Wayne suppose to be losing hair), his Bruce Wayne's acting, etc. He just didn't sound much different betweem Bruce & Batman with the voice. Bale has won me over more than Michael Keaton. I'm glad they pick Bale. :)

And btw, I'm new here. Nice to be part of this. Been a lurker here for awhile.

Me too. :up:

Nightwing1977, eh? Does that mean you're Nightwing with the old Disco collar? KICK ASS!!! :up: :batman: :up:

[Daisy]

Batmanrules33... knock off the trolling our you'll be out of here.

JLBats... don't take his bait or you'll have to suffer consequences too

[Keyser Sushi]

Oh, one other thing for everybody in this thread. I'm trying to start up a "Keaton for Bat-Mite" movement. I think he is perfect for the part, and if you agree with me, please feel free to add the blue "Keaton for Bat-Mite, dammit!!!" line to your sig.

You KNOW he's perfect. :D

[JLBats]

Batmanrules33... knock off the trolling our you'll be out of here.

JLBats... don't take his bait or you'll have to suffer consequences too

I'm not trolling. If you look. i'm actually trying to coerce him into giving me an actual reason instead of insanity.


And thank you.

[Spidey-Bat]

I refuse to vote until a Both option is added.

[Keyser Sushi]

LOL!!! Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of voting, though? :D

[batmaluco]

Christian Bale for me. There just something about him that I dig a lot as Bruce Wayne/Batman. Don't get me wrong, I like Michael Keaton ever since I saw Batman89 as a kid. But there are some problem I have with him such as his height, the scrawny built (which is why his Bat suit look like it has muscles & it so bulky), the reclining hair (since when is Bruce Wayne suppose to be losing hair), his Bruce Wayne's acting, etc. He just didn't sound much different betweem Bruce & Batman with the voice. Bale has won me over more than Michael Keaton. I'm glad they pick Bale. :)

And btw, I'm new here. Nice to be part of this. Been a lurker here for awhile.
Yeah, nicely said. :up:

[Spidey-Bat]

LOL!!! Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of voting, though? :D
Tell that to the people who vote for Ralph Nader.

[Keyser Sushi]

Tell that to the people who vote for Ralph Nader.

Wow. Best. Response. EVER. LOL!!! :D

[Spidey-Bat]

Wow. Best. Response. EVER. LOL!!! :D

Thank you:):up:

[Nightwing1977]

Nightwing1977, eh? Does that mean you're Nightwing with the old Disco collar? KICK ASS!!! :up: :batman: :up:

Nah. That the year I was born. Too bad Disco was dead (well, it was on life support) when I was born thought. :p ;)

[J-MAN_Begins]

so its ok to bash keaton and burton but it is a sin to bash begins?? jesus christ......

[Keyser Sushi]

so its ok to bash keaton and burton but it is a sin to bash begins?? jesus christ......

Who said that? Where? What? I don't recall seeing that stated anyplace in here...

[skruloos]

Tell that to the people who vote for Ralph Nader.
So you want a George Clooney option?

[Nightwing1977]

so its ok to bash keaton and burton but it is a sin to bash begins?? jesus christ......

I didn't bash Keaton & Burton. I may disagree with Burton on some of his story & prefering Bale as Bat don't mean I'm bashing Keaton. Read what some of us said. And you should see that I did enjoy Keaton as Batman, but I still prefer Bale as the Bat than Keaton. Geez, why do some people ignore this & act like we're bashing Keaton when that not true?

[Milkman95]

i dont watch batman for bruce wayne, i watch it for batman with some bruce wayne.

in short, **** begins. **** bale. keaton is the dark knight. burtons gotham is kickass and looks beautful, just as i always pictured it. gotham is not chicago.


KEATON AND BURTON RULES!!:up: :up:

great pics BTW theBat-man:)

I hate to break it to you, but Batman IS Bruce Wayne - you can't have one without the other.

[dark_knightwing]

Lol yeah that just doesn't make any sense.silly dumb****:p

[dark_knightwing]

keaton's still batman.here's why........

back in '89..

keaton bruce: anyway you gonna stay in gotham for awhile?
vale:i'd love to im intrigued by alex's giant bat stories.
keaton bruce: oh right..the bat-batman,yeah....so you wanna picture of me in my batsuit now?? Ooops...

in returns....

keaton bruce: it's not even accurate...batman blows it?! I probably saved millions of dollars on property damage alone! Ooops...

[J-MAN_Begins]

Who said that? Where? What? I don't recall seeing that stated anyplace in here...

everyone here can bash 89 and returns. then when batmanrules bashes begins it all over.

[JLBats]

everyone here can bash 89 and returns. then when batmanrules bashes begins it all over.

Not many people have bashed it. We're just not blind enough to miss it's obvious flaws. You guys on the other hand are playing the "see no evil" card. You can't take any critisism at all.

[BatmanRules33]

keaton's still batman.here's why........

back in '89..

keaton bruce: anyway you gonna stay in gotham for awhile?
vale:i'd love to im intrigued by alex's giant bat stories.
keaton bruce: oh right..the bat-batman,yeah....so you wanna picture of me in my batsuit now?? Ooops...

in returns....

keaton bruce: it's not even accurate...batman blows it?! I probably saved millions of dollars on property damage alone! Ooops...

LOL!:up:

[BatmanRules33]

Not many people have bashed it. We're just not blind enough to miss it's obvious flaws. You guys on the other hand are playing the "see no evil" card. You can't take any critisism at all.

we see the flaws, yes, even I do, but unlike you nolanites who praise begins to no end (and really theres nothin "new" about it that we havent seen before ie. rubber suit), we burtonites do the same but for good reason. there were alot of ways in which burtons film were true to the comics, but now everyone is like "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BEGINS IS WOOPDY DOOO!!". its stupid, you see, and not everyopne feels like that. alot of ppl still feel keaton is the best batman, and some ppl dont. for me, keaton IS Batman, and bale is just bruce wayne. and guess what? THERE NOTHIN YOU CAN DO TO CHANGE THAT. same with other burton/keaton fans in here. so stop trolling aboput how "stupid" keaton and burton is, cuz i can just as well say alot of **** about begins, which frankly im getting tired of, so lets stop this silly argument. what a stupid thread this is, created by one of the worst nolanites ive seen on this board. UGH. it was begging for a flame war just by the title and damnit, im finished with this. its pointless and stupid.:down

[JLBats]

Batmanrules33... knock off the trolling our you'll be out of here.

JLBats... don't take his bait or you'll have to suffer consequences too

See, BatmanRules? Daisy warned us both a page back.

[BatmanRules33]

See, BatmanRules? Daisy warned us both a page back.

ooooh, ok, well, that just emphasis's my above post. this whole argueing thing is stupid, lets all like what/who we want to like and stop this nonsense before someone gets banned or on probation.:up:

[JLBats]

ooooh, ok, well, that just emphasis's my above post. this whole argueing thing is stupid, lets all like what/who we want to like and stop this nonsense before someone gets banned or on probation.:up:

I've never even wanted to argue. In fact I agree with you. It just angers me when you post some of the stuff you did over the past several pages. And this thread should be used for intelligent debate. Not screaming your opinion to the window.

[theBat-Man]

http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_multimedia/bat_art/pics_big/Batmans_eyes.jpg

I AM VENGEANCE





http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/batmanr.jpg


I AM THE NIGHT




http://www.batmannews.de/gotham_multimedia/bat_art/pics_big/spread_wings.jpg
I AM BATMAN.

YES!

[BatmanRules33]

YES!

thank you bat-man, twas needed.:up:

[Spidey-Bat]

BALE IS BATMAN

Bale rocked so hard as Batman that now Keaton has a real reason to walk around all pouty!

Bruce Wayne is Batman :o

Do you honestly think Keaton cares if more fanboys liked Bale's performance more than his?

[theBat-Man]

Oh, one other thing for everybody in this thread. I'm trying to start up a "Keaton for Bat-Mite" movement. I think he is perfect for the part, and if you agree with me, please feel free to add the blue "Keaton for Bat-Mite, dammit!!!" line to your sig.

You KNOW he's perfect. :D

Bale for Batgirl!!!

[Two-Face]

what a ****e.

[The Caped Knight]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/MWizzle/BatoutofHell.jpg

I pick Christian Bale ,

Bale is THE BAT, Hands down This is BATMAN(From The comic books),Bale passes with flying colors, I can say Bale is without question The Best BATMAN ever, his preformence as BATMAN is Magnificent he is true to The character of BATMAN. As Bruce Wayne he is a masterpeice , He make's sure no can say Bruce Wayne is BATMAN, They are two compleatly diffrent character's The playboy side of Wayne by bale is well played, Bale makes Playboy Wayne a very good disguise.Bale's BATMAN voice is prue BADASS, I like the fact that he seperate's Bruce Wayne voice not to sound like BATMAN's so no can tell Bruce is BATMAN.

[Two-Face]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/MWizzle/BatoutofHell.jpg

I pick Christian Bale ,

Bale is THE BAT, Hands down This is BATMAN(From The comic books),Bale passes with flying colors, I can say Bale is without question The Best BATMAN ever, his preformence as BATMAN is Magnificent he is true to The character of BATMAN. As Bruce Wayne he is a masterpeice , He make's sure no can say Bruce Wayne is BATMAN, They are two compleatly diffrent character's The playboy side of Wayne by bale is well played, Bale makes Playboy Wayne a very good disguise.Bale's BATMAN voice is prue BADASS, I like the fact that he seperate's Bruce Wayne voice not to sound like BATMAN's so no can tell Bruce is BATMAN.

I second that :up:

[DocLathropBrown]

Bale for Batgirl!!!

Okay, now I'm convinced that you're an *******. There is no need to attack Christian Bale and fans of Christian Bale by doing this. You don't find others posting pathetic pictures of Michael Keaton.

You're getting reported.

[The Kid]

oh no! this is war! He/she was responding in 'kind' to a 'batmite' post about keaton. Chill the **** out before crying to mommy.

We don't want a war here. I do. but then we'd all get in trouble over NOTHING.

[theBat-Man]

Okay, now I'm convinced that you're an *******. There is no need to attack Christian Bale and fans of Christian Bale by doing this. You don't find others posting pathetic pictures of Michael Keaton.

You're getting reported.

Oh, I'm not attacking anyone. It's called humor. He says Keaton for Bat-Mite. So I jokingly say Bale for Batgirl. I don't find this picture of Bale "pathetic" at all. Relax.:rolleyes:

[Keyser Sushi]

everyone here can bash 89 and returns. then when batmanrules bashes begins it all over.

Not true. Most of us, anyway, are not bashing Keaton or the Batman movies he was in. We criticize them, but that's not the same as bashing. You can criticize Batman Begins, there are valid criticisms to be made. But a lot of people don't make those valid critcisms, they just bash Begins. There IS a difference. It's interesting to me that so many "Burtonites" can't handle any criticism of a Burton film. Instead of hearing the criticisms and arguing their validity in an intelligent manner (which some of you do; the Guard is a master of this, and one of the posters here for whom I have the most respect) many of you just start flinging things at us, and then you get upset when you get in trouble for it.

Criticism is not inappropriate behavior. Trolling is.

[Keyser Sushi]

oh no! this is war! He/she was responding in 'kind' to a 'batmite' post about keaton. Chill the **** out before crying to mommy.

We don't want a war here. I do. but then we'd all get in trouble over NOTHING.

Hey, how do you know I wasn't serious about the Bat-Mite thing? I know the character is usually kinda goofy but I think Keaton could make it pretty badass. Think "Beetlejuice."

[The Kid]

I love that idea.

[theBat-Man]

Hey, how do you know I wasn't serious about the Bat-Mite thing? I know the character is usually kinda goofy but I think Keaton could make it pretty badass. Think "Beetlejuice."

That picture is proof that Bale could make make a better badass Batgirl then Alicia Silverstone. Think "Velvet Goldmine" meets "Rocky Horror Picture Show".

[J-MAN_Begins]

Not true. Most of us, anyway, are not bashing Keaton or the Batman movies he was in. We criticize them, but that's not the same as bashing. You can criticize Batman Begins, there are valid criticisms to be made. But a lot of people don't make those valid critcisms, they just bash Begins. There IS a difference. It's interesting to me that so many "Burtonites" can't handle any criticism of a Burton film. Instead of hearing the criticisms and arguing their validity in an intelligent manner (which some of you do; the Guard is a master of this, and one of the posters here for whom I have the most respect) many of you just start flinging things at us, and then you get upset when you get in trouble for it.

Criticism is not inappropriate behavior. Trolling is.

all over the batman forums there are plenty of begins fanboys saying batman89 is garbage. i hate that. then when someone doesn't like begins he is flamed to death. begins isn't the definitive batman and niether is batman89. both are flawed.

[Keyser Sushi]

all over the batman forums there are plenty of begins fanboys saying batman89 is garbage. i hate that. then when someone doesn't like begins he is flamed to death. begins isn't the definitive batman and niether is batman89. both are flawed.

I don't think you'll find too many people in this thread who disagree with that statement in general terms. I do think that someone who doesn't like Begins at all is probably very biased, as there is a lot more right with that movie than there is wrong, and more that is good about it than bad. But no, it certainly is not perfect. I don't know that I've ever seen a perfect movie. I'll let you know if I do.

There are also a lot of people who have had 16 years to think about BATMAN '89 and while we like that movie, and always have, the things that we think are wrong with that movie have been gnawing at us for a decade and a half, and we've maybe become more harsh towards it than we used to be, and probably more harsh to it than it deserves. But the greivances are still valid.

What I like about Begins is that I don't have to make excuses for it, and I don't have to feel guilty about liking it. I spent so many years defending B'89 and BR when deep down I was wondering why Burton did certain things the way he did. And about 5 years ago I realized it was okay to admit that I didn't like everything about those movies.

If I'd made Begins I'd have done some things differently, too. But mostly they're artistic decisions that have no bearing on the story or the quality of the movie. What's important is story and characterization, and most of all respect for the characters. Begins got those things very, very right. And that means something to me. I'm not saying it has to mean anything to you.

Begins is not perfect, but it is unquestionably the best Batman movie ever made. That doesn't mean I don't like '89 or Returns, though. I do. And I realize that without Burton and Keaton's work, we wouldn't have Nolan and Bale at all. So at least with me (and I am not alone here) while I prefer Begins, there is and always will be respect for Burton's Batman movies.

All I ever ask of people who prefer the Burton's movies is the same respect for Nolan that I have for Burton.

[Keyser Sushi]

I love that idea.

I knew you would.

[Keyser Sushi]

That picture is proof that Bale could make make a better badass Batgirl then Alicia Silverstone. Think "Velvet Goldmine" meets "Rocky Horror Picture Show".

Well yeah, but a rubber band and six inches of string would make a more badass Batgirl than Alicia Silverstone, so that really isn't saying much. :D

[DocLathropBrown]

I don't think you'll find too many people in this thread who disagree with that statement in general terms. I do think that someone who doesn't like Begins at all is probably very biased, as there is a lot more right with that movie than there is wrong, and more that is good about it than bad. But no, it certainly is not perfect. I don't know that I've ever seen a perfect movie. I'll let you know if I do.

There are also a lot of people who have had 16 years to think about BATMAN '89 and while we like that movie, and always have, the things that we think are wrong with that movie have been gnawing at us for a decade and a half, and we've maybe become more harsh towards it than we used to be, and probably more harsh to it than it deserves. But the greivances are still valid.

What I like about Begins is that I don't have to make excuses for it, and I don't have to feel guilty about liking it. I spent so many years defending B'89 and BR when deep down I was wondering why Burton did certain things the way he did. And about 5 years ago I realized it was okay to admit that I didn't like everything about those movies.

If I'd made Begins I'd have done some things differently, too. But mostly they're artistic decisions that have no bearing on the story or the quality of the movie. What's important is story and characterization, and most of all respect for the characters. Begins got those things very, very right. And that means something to me. I'm not saying it has to mean anything to you.

Begins is not perfect, but it is unquestionably the best Batman movie ever made. That doesn't mean I don't like '89 or Returns, though. I do. And I realize that without Burton and Keaton's work, we wouldn't have Nolan and Bale at all. So at least with me (and I am not alone here) while I prefer Begins, there is and always will be respect for Burton's Batman movies.

All I ever ask of people who prefer the Burton's movies is the same respect for Nolan that I have for Burton.

Beautifully said, man. :) Why can't Burtonites just get it? (I'm a former Burtonite myself. But unlike others, seeing Begins the first time took down my bias.)

[Keyser Sushi]

Beautifully said, man. :) Why can't Burtonites just get it? (I'm a former Burtonite myself. But unlike others, seeing Begins the first time took down my bias.)

Thanks, Doc. I keep asking that question myself...

[Duneboy]

Mr. Keaton is w/out a doubt, Bat Man!

[Two-Face]

Mr. Keaton is w/out a doubt, Bat Man!



Michael Keaton WAS BATMAN, Christian Bale IS BATMAN now.

[Infinity9999x]

I actually think they're both Batman, in the sense that they're both very good. I honestly rate their Batmans equal, because I think they are both great. But Bale's Wayne is better, or I preferred it to Keatons anyways.

[Louie_19_Tx]

Keaton was ok and yea he was a cool batman and even though batman forever and kilmer was my best batman, keaton WAS everyone's batman but he is a Has-Been and bale is the new/best/future of batman..Tome Keaton has been replaced, he may be good to return as the dark night only and only if he was did a batman cameo in the batman suit but bruce wayne in a live-action batman beyond film..then he would be the perfect itence/older/mature/smarter batman..but beside's bale as a younger/better/ good fighter/intenase batman,bruce wayne is Kilmer and yea i know many wil lsay im so retarted and i suck and whatever but i love batman so much and he is my fav. hero and Bale/KIlmer are my ultimate batman's and alway's will be

[Infinity9999x]

Beautifully said, man. :) Why can't Burtonites just get it? (I'm a former Burtonite myself. But unlike others, seeing Begins the first time took down my bias.)

That kind of undermines what he was saying. By going why can't Burtonites just get it, you really aren't helping anything. Your comment makes you seem like you're putting yourself above those who perfer the Burton movies and that will just annoy people. Really you're not showing the Burton movies the respesct you wish the "Burtonites" gave Nolan's movie. I myself am a BurNolanite because I like both movies, Begins is a bit higher on my fav then '89, but I still love both and I can see why both sides get angry at eachother. But by saying "why can't they just get it" you're only adding fuel to the fire.

[Infinity9999x]

Keaton was ok and yea he was a cool batman and even though batman forever and kilmer was my best batman, keaton WAS everyone's batman but he is a Has-Been and bale is the new/best/future of batman..Tome Keaton has been replaced, he may be good to return as the dark night only and only if he was did a batman cameo in the batman suit but bruce wayne in a live-action batman beyond film..then he would be the perfect itence/older/mature/smarter batman..but beside's bale as a younger/better/ good fighter/intenase batman,bruce wayne is Kilmer and yea i know many wil lsay im so retarted and i suck and whatever but i love batman so much and he is my fav. hero and Bale/KIlmer are my ultimate batman's and alway's will be

I think Kilmer had the chance to be better then Keaton, but due to the campy skript and some bad lines he fell short. He phyiscally looked the part more but was held back by Shumacher and WB. More people Remeber Keaton as Batman then Kilmer because Keaton is a fabulous actor and had a better script.

[Two-Face]

My top 5 fav Batman actors:
1.Christian Bale
2.Micheal Keaton
3.Val Kilmer
4.Adam West
5.Goerge Clooney

[JLBats]

My top 5 fav Batman actors:
1.Christian Bale
2.Micheal Keaton
3.Val Kilmer
4.Adam West
5.Goerge Clooney

Great list. But, in my opinion, considering Adam West a Batman actor is like considering Woody Allen a Bond actor. He played a spoof.

[Two-Face]

Great list. But, in my opinion, considering Adam West a Batman actor is like considering Woody Allen a Bond actor. He played a spoof.


he's not my fav actor I just put West in list for respect and some older bat-fans might say "why you didn't put West in your list?"

[Louie_19_Tx]

Keaton WAS the Batman Bale Is/Alway's will be BatMan-Bruce Wayne..Bale has everything batman is supost to look like in a film, Keaton was film batman, Bale is comic-book-real batman..he has the look's/build/height/voice/the lines/ the intenisty/ the mysterious/ the seriousness/ the fight scene's(even if you couldent reaily see anything)/the introduction as batman( his first batman apearnce in the dock's was like a horror movie with the thug's geting graped and taken up to the air.. yea i know keaton was also intense and serious and he did have one cool fight scene against the big black thug in B89. but comprared to this movie/this bruce wayne/this batman bale has got it all..many complain about changing his voice and making it sound forced, it dident sound bad at all and it was necesary from sounding like bruce and plus it did gave intenisty and did scared the bad guy's which is what he want's and is supost to do.,his goal is to give fear to the guilty..Bale #1

[my0pic_spidey]

it was not a cool fight scene,he barely put up with the fight getting beaten up and all.But it was definitely well choreographed.

[Nimrandir]

Bale is IMO the defenition of Batman in the movies. Keaton looked good in the suit nothing more. His acting of the creature of the night conveyed almost no emotions. He ust stood there most of the time looking at people. The suite was so clumsy he couldn't move properly hence his whole head and shulders moved ever time he need to see. The fight scenese were plain horrible.

Bale became the charecter of batman/Wayne. He made it believable. He showed himself a torchered soul and emotional threads that lead to the channeling of his inner rage and the birth of The Batman. He acted the part. Keaton at best only looked the part.

[Louie_19_Tx]

Exactly.. and people should realize that too.Keaton looked good, that's all, and in-fact i bet many liked keaton so much cause he was the first bit movie batman, and was in two batman movies with a good director and was a dark movie, and great costume, of course people like that..to me, before Bale,KIlmer was alway's my fav. Batman/Bruce and if only he was cast as batman i nthe burton's film's i bet he wouldve been in all three if not 4 batman movies.if B&R was even alittle better Begin's wouldve actualy been a seguel or actualy a pre-guel.. I am a huge fan of keaton, but as him as batman? NOO, batman was/is/alway's will be my fav. super hero and even before forever i did enjoy batman 89 & return's alot but even as a kid i preferd someone else as batman,

[Sabotage8475]

Bale is IMO the defenition of Batman in the movies. Keaton looked good in the suit nothing more. His acting of the creature of the night conveyed almost no emotions. He ust stood there most of the time looking at people. The suite was so clumsy he couldn't move properly hence his whole head and shulders moved ever time he need to see. The fight scenese were plain horrible.


One man's perception vs. another. And mine certainly doesn't match yours.

[Nimrandir]

That is true, perception is amatter of opinion. But, there has to be a truth, what is batman which is better, not wich is liked more but what is the better movie:acting, directing, music, cinemetography, story, dialogue, costumes, ect. Going by movie standards it is Begins IMO. But again the human element comes to play. Can a person udge unbiasedly?

I think in this case the best way to ascertain the closer to chrarecter of the two would be to look into the comics. There were a variety of different ones, butBatman in his glory in the comics is represented much more closely by Begins.

[Wondercoolguy]

Let see Michael Keaton a normail looking guy. Christian a guy with a huge flapping mouth!

I dont know about you guys when he was yelling I started laughing cause his lips I thought were going the help him fly

[Milkman95]

^Joke.

[JLBats]

Let see Michael Keaton a normail looking guy. Christian a guy with a huge flapping mouth!

I dont know about you guys when he was yelling I started laughing cause his lips I thought were going the help him fly

You just caused your own downfall. Bruce Wayne is not a "normal looking guy". Read up or don't try that kind of thing again.

[BatmanRules33]

this is still, after all this time the most ****ed up stupidest damn thread in the history of the world. i cant believe noone has figured out that its all about opinion. we can like who we wanna like so shut the **** up already. i think bale sucks and just didnt convey the batman i was hopeing for. if i prefer keaton over bale, and that goes for ANYBODY, ppl gotta stop puttin them down by comin in here and sayin "DOY DOY BALE#1 DOY DOY!!" its like "ok, we get you like bale, and guess what? there are bout 2 million other threads to kiss his ass. why come in here and put down the keaton fans?". doesnt make sense.:( either they are bored BB fans wiht nothin better to do, or they seriously got some issues inside of them that they feel that NOBODY could POSSIBLY like Keaton over, GASP!:eek: thats not only a stupid assumption, but an immature one. also, ilove it when ppl say "oh, i LOVE keaton to, but im still gonna like bale and put down the keaton/burtons fans", it just shows how stupid some ppl can be.

and keyser sushi, BB is "unquestionably" the best batman ever??????? who has to agree with THAT????? i saw BB and didnt come walzting out of there saying "NOW THATS THE BEST BATMAN EVER!!" in fact, i came out sayin "there could have been alot more interesting things in here, and minus holmes too!".

not everyone agrees with you keyser sushi. and not everyone has too. lets leave it at that please.

[The Demon's Head]

this is still, after all this time the most ****ed up stupidest damn thread in the history of the world. i cant believe noone has figured out that its all about opinion. we can like who we wanna like so shut the **** up already. i think bale sucks and just didnt convey the batman i was hopeing for. if i prefer keaton over bale, and that goes for ANYBODY, ppl gotta stop puttin them down by comin in here and sayin "DOY DOY BALE#1 DOY DOY!!" its like "ok, we get you like bale, and guess what? there are bout 2 million other threads to kiss his ass. why come in here and put down the keaton fans?". doesnt make sense.:(

and keyser sushi, BB is "unquestionably" the best batman ever??????? who has to agree with THAT????? i saw BB and didnt come walzting out of there saying "NOW THATS THE BEST BATMAN EVER!!" in fact, i came out sayin "there could have been alot more interesting things in here, and minus holmes too!".

not everyone agrees with you keyser sushi. and not everyone has too. lets leave it at that please. I thought you said you were leaving the boards and never coming back.
Nice to know you can't be true to your word.

[Shawn Wayne]

This is accurate. Amen, brother

My top 5 fav Batman actors:
1.Christian Bale
2.Micheal Keaton
3.Val Kilmer
4.Adam West
5.Goerge Clooney

[BatmanRules33]

I thought you said you were leaving the boards and never coming back.
Nice to know you can't be true to your word.

lol, i just had to help my friend sider bat here from you nolan ass freaks. so yeah, its probably a good thing. i dont come on here as much as i used to, but once an a while, i like defending burton and keaton, the TRUE batmen:cool: :up:

[JLBats]

this is still, after all this time the most ****ed up stupidest damn thread in the history of the world. i cant believe noone has figured out that its all about opinion. we can like who we wanna like so shut the **** up already. i think bale sucks and just didnt convey the batman i was hopeing for. if i prefer keaton over bale, and that goes for ANYBODY, ppl gotta stop puttin them down by comin in here and sayin "DOY DOY BALE#1 DOY DOY!!" its like "ok, we get you like bale, and guess what? there are bout 2 million other threads to kiss his ass. why come in here and put down the keaton fans?". doesnt make sense.:( either they are bored BB fans wiht nothin better to do, or they seriously got some issues inside of them that they feel that NOBODY could POSSIBLY like Keaton over, GASP!:eek: thats not only a stupid assumption, but an immature one. also, ilove it when ppl say "oh, i LOVE keaton to, but im still gonna like bale and put down the keaton/burtons fans", it just shows how stupid some ppl can be.

and keyser sushi, BB is "unquestionably" the best batman ever??????? who has to agree with THAT????? i saw BB and didnt come walzting out of there saying "NOW THATS THE BEST BATMAN EVER!!" in fact, i came out sayin "there could have been alot more interesting things in here, and minus holmes too!".

not everyone agrees with you keyser sushi. and not everyone has too. lets leave it at that please.

Perhaps it wasn't as good, to you, but it was ten million times more accurate to the comics and had more developed characters and a better, more interesting and believable story.

And why the hell are you back?

[JLBats]

lol, i just had to help my friend sider bat here from you nolan ass freaks. so yeah, its probably a good thing. i dont come on here as much as i used to, but once an a while, i like defending burton and keaton, the TRUE batmen:cool: :up:

True in what definition? They were nothing like the comics at all.

[BatmanRules33]

True in what definition? They were nothing like the comics at all.

you are stupid. you just dont get it. and i got a question for you: why the **** arent you in the BB threads? hm? you love bale so much, why not go there and stay out of here, hm???

oh i forgot, youve got issues.:rolleyes:

[BatmanRules33]

and incase you didnt get that part in my big post:


ppl gotta stop puttin them down by comin in here and sayin "DOY DOY BALE#1 DOY DOY!!" its like "ok, we get you like bale, and guess what? there are bout 2 million other threads to kiss his ass. why come in here and put down the keaton fans?". doesnt make sense.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif either they are bored BB fans wiht nothin better to do, or they seriously got some issues inside of them that they feel that NOBODY could POSSIBLY like Keaton over, GASP!http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif thats not only a stupid assumption, but an immature one. also, ilove it when ppl say "oh, i LOVE keaton to, but im still gonna like bale and put down the keaton/burtons fans", it just shows how stupid some ppl can be.

tis true, sadly.

[JLBats]

you are stupid. you just dont get it. and i got a question for you: why the **** arent you in the BB threads? hm? you love bale so much, why not go there and stay out of here, hm???

oh i forgot, youve got issues.:rolleyes:

Such a comment does not address mine and adds nothing. I LOVE Keaton and Burton. I just realise that they are off slightly tonally and in characterisation. This is a thread for discussing Bale Vs. Keaton.

[JLBats]

and incase you didnt get that part in my big post:


ppl gotta stop puttin them down by comin in here and sayin "DOY DOY BALE#1 DOY DOY!!" its like "ok, we get you like bale, and guess what? there are bout 2 million other threads to kiss his ass. why come in here and put down the keaton fans?". doesnt make sense.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif either they are bored BB fans wiht nothin better to do, or they seriously got some issues inside of them that they feel that NOBODY could POSSIBLY like Keaton over, GASP!http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif thats not only a stupid assumption, but an immature one. also, ilove it when ppl say "oh, i LOVE keaton to, but im still gonna like bale and put down the keaton/burtons fans", it just shows how stupid some ppl can be.

We come in here to talk about Bale Vs. Keaton... because this is the Bale vs. Keaton THREAD. Don't come in here expecting us to not talk about it:confused:

[BatmanRules33]

[QUOTE=JLBats]EDIT: double post.

[Shawn Wayne]

Bale CAN kick Keaton's ass

[JLBats]

yeah but when it turns into the "bale is awsome and can beat keatson ass blah blah keatons better? prove it! blah blah burtonites suck blah blah BB RULES blah blah" thread, then i know its gotten so ****ed up its beyond saveing. even in the "keaton page" where it was all supposed to be about how awsome keaton was as batman, you and other baleheads had to burst in and ruin THAT thread, UGH!!! piss me off!!!:mad:

Generally, it's you saying that about Keaton, not the other way around. We can make another thread for Keaton and I'll attempt to help keep all the Bale fans out, alright?

[BatmanRules33]

Such a comment does not address mine and adds nothing. I LOVE Keaton and Burton. I just realise that they are off slightly tonally and in characterisation. This is a thread for discussing Bale Vs. Keaton.

yeah but when it turns into the "bale is the best batman blah blah blah keaton is better? prove it! blah blah BB RULES blah blah burtonites suck blah blah" thread, then i know its gone downhill. hell, even the "keaton page" which was supposed to be all about how awosme keatonm was as batman, that was like a siren for "calling all baleheads!! ppl in here like keaton as batman more then bale!! must troll there threads!!". i swear, its gotten BAD in here, all thanks too, you guessed it, the baleheads. and the funny thing is there are so many other BB ass kissing thread on this site.

[BatmanRules33]

Bale CAN kick Keaton's ass

in your opinion. i'd like to see him try.:cool:

keaton is Batman.:up:

[BatmanRules33]

Generally, it's you saying that about Keaton, not the other way around. We can make another thread for Keaton and I'll attempt to help keep all the Bale fans out, alright?

hm? are you saying that i am the only one that likes keaton on this board?

WRONG.

[JLBats]

in your opinion. i'd like to see him try.:cool:

keaton is Batman.:up:

I'm just wondering BatmanRules... this is, incidentally, not a comment on Bale or Keaton, just an honest wondering.

Who is Batman to you? What comic best captures that personality?

[JLBats]

hm? are you saying that i am the only one that likes keaton on this board?

WRONG.

When did I ever say that?:confused: Lots of people love Keaton, myself included.

[Shawn Wayne]

It's fact. Keaton's an old man and has never seen the inside of a gym

in your opinion. i'd like to see him try.:cool:

keaton is Batman.:up:

[BatmanRules33]

Generally, it's you saying that about Keaton, not the other way around. We can make another thread for Keaton and I'll attempt to help keep all the Bale fans out, alright?

well then what exactly are you saying in the above post im quoting???:confused:

[BatmanRules33]

It's fact. Keaton's an old man and has never seen the inside of a gym

another stupid, non-true statement in the the stupidest thread ever. not surprised, even though keaton did MONTHS of kick boxing training and worked out before doing his role as batman.

of course, the baleheads will ignore that and just keep sayin to themselves "bale is batman, bale is batman" as a mantra they've created. so open-minded.:o

[JLBats]

well then what exactly are you saying in the above post im quoting???:confused:

I'm saying generally it isn't Bale fans going "DOO DOO DOO, BALE RULES, KEATON A POSER!" It's generally you saying "YO, KEATON RULES, BALE A POZER, KILLA EYES!" And I'm also saying that the Keaton thread the Bale fans ruined? We can just restart it again and keep Bale fans out.

[JLBats]

another stupid, non-true statement in the the stupidest thread ever. not surprised, even though keaton did MONTHS of kick boxing training and worked out before doing his role as batman.

of course, the baleheads will ignore that and just keep sayin to themselves "bale is batman, bale is batman" as a mantra they've created. so open-minded.:o

BatmanRules, I'm trying to be fair and open minded and see your side, but you seem to really be insulting Bale fans as a whole here. I'm a Bale fan, and i love Keaton.

[BatmanRules33]

I'm saying generally it isn't Bale fans going "DOO DOO DOO, BALE RULES, KEATON A POSER!" It's generally you saying "YO, KEATON RULES, BALE A POZER, KILLA EYES!" And I'm also saying that the Keaton thread the Bale fans ruined? We can just restart it again and keep Bale fans out.

i would like that. i will create a keaton page again, MY keaton page, and make sure no bale fans get in there (or at least bale fans who want to put down the keatons fans). if you must know, the whole thing started first with bale fans goin "HEY, keaton isnt batman!!". at least from what i remember. i never started putting down bale until the nolanites starting putting down keaton and burton. thats the truth, no lie. i wouldnt say anything bad bout bale unless sopmeone started puttin down keaton. and thats pretty much what happened.

[Shawn Wayne]

You know, I'm going to be honest here. I liked Keaton's Batman. But if he worked out for months like you say and STILL looked like that then something was terribly wrong. In prison, Keaton would be Bale's *****'s *****. (maybe)

another stupid, non-true statement in the the stupidest thread ever. not surprised, even though keaton did MONTHS of kick boxing training and worked out before doing his role as batman.

of course, the baleheads will ignore that and just keep sayin to themselves "bale is batman, bale is batman" as a mantra they've created. so open-minded.:o

[JLBats]

i would like that. i will create a keaton page again, MY keaton page, and make sure no bale fans get in there. if you must know, the whole thing started first with bale fans goin "HEY, keaton isnt batman!!". at least from what i remember. i never started putting down bale until the nolanites starting putting down keaton and burton. thats the truth, no lie. i wouldnt say anything bad bout bale unless sopmeone started puttin down keaton. and thats pretty much what happened.

My problem with you has never been your opinion, it has been the way you express it, with stuff like "KEATON IS BATMAN, BALE A POSER, YEA! KILLA EYES!" Incidentally, could you answer my above question? The one about what your vision of Batman is and what comic best encompasses it?

[BatmanRules33]

You know, I'm going to be honest here. I liked Keaton's Batman. But if he worked out for months like you say and STILL looked like that then something was terribly wrong. In prison, Keaton would be Bale's *****'s *****. (maybe) we are talking about bale and keaton IN BATMAN, not "what would they do in jail", oh brother. thats a whole other convo right there. in a BATMAN film, if bales batman versus keatons batman, i would give it a fair fight in the movie world. thats what i was talking about.

[BatmanRules33]

My problem with you has never been your opinion, it has been the way you express it, with stuff like "KEATON IS BATMAN, BALE A POSER, YEA! KILLA EYES!" Incidentally, could you answer my above question? The one about what your vision of Batman is and what comic best encompasses it?

ok then, MY vision of Batman is a dark brooding guy who doesnt have much of a social life, and who considers himself and outcast of society. hes a dark creature of the night, and is ruthless. hes confident in himself, and isnt worried about what happens to the villian unless its mandatory he lives (which is rare). he'll do what he has to do to get the job done, even if it means takeing lives (of crimninals). hence why i love the batwing so much. he has a killer snarl and has the classic oval with yellow on his chest, he has the long pointy ears, not short stubby ones.

what comic? DKR baby!!:cool: :up: of course thats only 1 comic. there are other sbut i cant think of the names, too many.