The Battlestar Galactica and Caprica Discussion Thread

[Darthphere]

Man, this show just drives me nuts. I missed the last two eps but I DVR'ed them. I just finished watching both. I love this show but I just want to scream at the TV sometimes.

The Baltar scenes with Six on Caprica were great. I admit I about **** myself when I saw him there the first time, when Six was resurrected. The Cylon Peace Movement will be very interesting.

I can't wait for next weeks episode. What the hell is Rosilin going to do...what will be her purpose on the show if she isn't the Pres? And it sounded like she was telling someone that Baltar was a cylon conspiritor (sp?). Going back to her flashbacks to seeing him with Six on Caprica. I wonder what that will bring.

Very interesting stuff. Best show on TV in my opinion.


It seems Roslin is conspiring with Tom Zarek from what I saw in the preview. My guess is that Baltar is going to die. I love the character but I just cant see him on the show while hes president for long. Another option I have is theyll find out about his role in the destruction of the Colonies from Sharon and Caprica 6 and their peace movement.

[LexCorp]

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/SHOWBIZ/TV/12/08/apontv.galactica.ap/story.balter.six.jpg
One of my fav things to watch right now is Battle Star. Mostly for Six and Gaius interaction. It's just the best part of the show for me.

[Superfreak]

It seems Roslin is conspiring with Tom Zarek from what I saw in the preview. My guess is that Baltar is going to die. I love the character but I just cant see him on the show while hes president for long. Another option I have is theyll find out about his role in the destruction of the Colonies from Sharon and Caprica 6 and their peace movement.

well, BSG2000 is now almost free of the original BSG. It has travelled quite a bit further already. But here's some thoughts on what may happen.

Baltar won't die. He's the main antagonist on the show. To kill him, would be to kill a major part of the show, including a scantily clad 6 prancing around in every episode. If anyone remembers though, Baltar ended up being left behind in the original series, and was saved by Cylons, and became a cylon commander of sorts.

So, I think that maybe Baltar might be leaving the fleet at some point, and moving on to 'other' things.

I can't wait to see what happens on friday, but I'm also terrified for my own sanity, as we all know that BSG has a short history of making the most gut wrenching season finale ever. This year will be ultimately much worse than last years near death adama, tigh in charge of the fleet, the president and apollo in jail, starbuck on caprica etc.

If the season 2 finale lives up to its season 1 counterpart, it's gonna rip the still beating heart from my chest. Atleast the break is during the summer, and it's nice outside (to distract myself)

[huskerwebhead]

well, BSG2000 is now almost free of the original BSG. It has travelled quite a bit further already. But here's some thoughts on what may happen.

Baltar won't die. He's the main antagonist on the show. To kill him, would be to kill a major part of the show, including a scantily clad 6 prancing around in every episode. If anyone remembers though, Baltar ended up being left behind in the original series, and was saved by Cylons, and became a cylon commander of sorts.

So, I think that maybe Baltar might be leaving the fleet at some point, and moving on to 'other' things.

I was thinking this same exact thing. I think you're right. If this whole Presidency falls through for him (which I think it would have to) and he is exposed as a Cylon collaborator/human traitor there's no way he'll be able to remain in the fleet. Should be interesting.

I can't wait to see what happens on friday, but I'm also terrified for my own sanity, as we all know that BSG has a short history of making the most gut wrenching season finale ever. This year will be ultimately much worse than last years near death adama, tigh in charge of the fleet, the president and apollo in jail, starbuck on caprica etc.

If the season 2 finale lives up to its season 1 counterpart, it's gonna rip the still beating heart from my chest. Atleast the break is during the summer, and it's nice outside (to distract myself)

100% agree. I love this show, but it frustrates me so much sometimes. I guess that's the mark of a good show, eh?

[Darthphere]

well, BSG2000 is now almost free of the original BSG. It has travelled quite a bit further already. But here's some thoughts on what may happen.

Baltar won't die. He's the main antagonist on the show. To kill him, would be to kill a major part of the show, including a scantily clad 6 prancing around in every episode. If anyone remembers though, Baltar ended up being left behind in the original series, and was saved by Cylons, and became a cylon commander of sorts.

So, I think that maybe Baltar might be leaving the fleet at some point, and moving on to 'other' things.

I can't wait to see what happens on friday, but I'm also terrified for my own sanity, as we all know that BSG has a short history of making the most gut wrenching season finale ever. This year will be ultimately much worse than last years near death adama, tigh in charge of the fleet, the president and apollo in jail, starbuck on caprica etc.

If the season 2 finale lives up to its season 1 counterpart, it's gonna rip the still beating heart from my chest. Atleast the break is during the summer, and it's nice outside (to distract myself)


I agree.:up:

[huskerwebhead]

Bump. This is staying on the front page, dammit. :mad:

[Darthphere]

Has naybody palyed the Battlestar Galactica game for Xbox, I never herad of it until recently so that should say something about its quality.

[huskerwebhead]

I looked at it. From what I can tell it's pulled from the Original series. Which, is OK I guess...but I have a fear it would be corny.

[Superfreak]

I looked at it. From what I can tell it's pulled from the Original series. Which, is OK I guess...but I have a fear it would be corny.

I believe that the game itself is not based on the BSG the original, but that it is actually based on BSG2000. I think I read somewhere that the game is based on the Cylon/Human war that preceded the events in the current series. Because I think you take on the role of William Adama (commander, now admiral in the series) in the first Cylon war. I'm not sure though, but I think I'm right.


Now on with the discussion about the show:

I had this thought the other day. There is one thing that I want to see before the Pegasus is destroyed, or disappears or what. I want to see a Pegasus centric episode, where Apollo, and Stinger (the old Pegasus CAG) go head to head (metaphorically). I'd really like to see the 'daddy's boy' argument extended a bit. Especially since Apollo has now been promoted to Pegasus commander. It should inflame that opinion a little more.

[Evelisse]

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9863/williamadama5gs.jpg

Sometimes You Have To Roll The Hard Six!

Season Finale, Lets Do This.

[LetsHangBendis]

The Doctor from Dune is a CYLON! Called it. He betrayed the Atreides, he betrays the humans.

[LetsHangBendis]

Baltar is president, one year later? WTF?

OYL is a ****ty fad. DC did it and it felt cheap, and unless the last 15 minutes of BSG are awesome, I'll say the same thign here.

[Armand Z Trip]

I don't want to sound like some fanboy geek, so being fair and balanced and after watching the finale with an extremely jaded and cynical eye, I just want to say: thank the gods of Kobol and Ron Moore that was the most brilliant frakkin thing I've seen in a long time.

[Michael Corleone]

I don't want to sound like some fanboy geek, so being fair and balanced and after watching the finale with an extremely jaded and cynical eye, I just want to say: thank the gods of Kobol and Ron Moore that was the most brilliant frakkin thing I've seen in a long time.


I have to agree. I wasnt sold at first but I think this is making for some very interesting TV. The only thing that sucks is OCTOBER? AGH! I'm already having issues with that. FRAKING OCTOBER? lol

[LetsHangBendis]

Rewatch the first two seasons, knowing how it all plays out.

The baby is going to be hardcore important, I gurantee it.

And Anders is dead. Period. He's gone. No way Starbuck will be married in Season 3. And she'll blame Lee, because he is indeed a douche.

[Evelisse]

Wow is all, that was great, October so far away, need an entire episode to a flashback of when Adama decided to rock the dirty sanchez mustache :D

[LetsHangBendis]

That is weird. He had the 'stache before he got Galactica, and now he has it back again. Kind of weird.

I'm all kinds of excited and worried as to what we will see of Season 3.0.

[Donnie Darko]

I cannot wait!

REVOLUTION, B!+CHES!

[Darthphere]

Rewatch the first two seasons, knowing how it all plays out.

The baby is going to be hardcore important, I gurantee it.

And Anders is dead. Period. He's gone. No way Starbuck will be married in Season 3. And she'll blame Lee, because he is indeed a douche.


How is Lee being a douche? We still dont know what exactly went down between Starbuck and Lee that caused that riff. The most obvious answer is Anders but BSg is less that obvious. So lets withold judgement until we find out what exactly went down.

Im wondering witht he fleet jumping away what their plan is. According to hardcore fans this is kinda like the same plot from the original where the Cylons will take Baltar and make him some type of leader. Back to the fleet, will they come back guns a blazing its not like they go and pick up more people to come back and fight. Great episode all around and October is too far away.

[Superfreak]

How is Lee being a douche? We still dont know what exactly went down between Starbuck and Lee that caused that riff. The most obvious answer is Anders but BSg is less that obvious. So lets withold judgement until we find out what exactly went down.

Im wondering witht he fleet jumping away what their plan is. According to hardcore fans this is kinda like the same plot from the original where the Cylons will take Baltar and make him some type of leader. Back to the fleet, will they come back guns a blazing its not like they go and pick up more people to come back and fight. Great episode all around and October is too far away.


that was a cool epi.

you know, it's all very moses. Take a look. Humans having escaped persecuction and have settled in the desert in a life of sin. Moses had take a time out, and come back and save everybody again. I think were looking at this kind of situation. Adama and son (it's like a business) have to go and retrieve something, then come back and save everybody from cylon enslavement. Here's my theory:

In the 'one year later' bit of the episode, it seemed that there was no sharon2, or we didn't see one. So perhaps sharon2 died, and was ressurected. And basically pulled the same deal that Caprica6 and Sharon1 did (starting a cylon peace movement). Sharon2 convincing the cylons that her baby was kidnapped etc. I guess we'll see.

the question remains: what do the cylons want?


anyhow, I thought I put together a list of the cylons we know.


http://battlestar.ugo.com/images/girls/tricia_helfer/large/tricia_helfer_1.jpg

IDENTIFIED: Number 6, Gina, Caprica6

http://www.xenite.org/features/grace-park/pics/model-pic-01.jpg

IDENTIFIED: Number 8, Sharon1, Sharon2,

http://webfantasy.info/Lucy_Lawless/Images/Lucy_Lawless_Xena_01.jpg

STILL UNIDENTIFIED: Number 3, D'Anna Biers

http://www.northernstars.ca/actorsabc/Media/bennett_matthew_02.jpg

IDENTIFIED: Number 5, Aaron Doral

http://www.celebrity-pictures-world.com/pics/c/callum-keith-rennie/callum-keith-rennie-007.jpg

IDENTIFIED: Number ??, Leoben Conoy

http://www.brigittab.com/Biopictures/Rick1.jpg

IDENTIFIED: Number ??, Simon the Farm doctor

http://freespace.virgin.net/john.wiltshire/QLeap/QLpics/Dean3.jpg

IDENTFIED: Number ??, The Priest, The Peace Envoy

[Evelisse]

Heh, pretty unlikely, but we could very well see the cylons & humans living in peace next season, those cylons with the Sharon and Six copies could have broke off from the main sect of cylons,, there could be some sort of as of yet unknown to us, civil war going on within the cylons, and they looking for place to stay aswell now, Adama and Son come back next season to find a utopia of sorts??? who knows.

[Superfreak]

...Adama and Son come back next season to find a utopia of sorts??? who knows.

a utopia of sin

[Darthphere]

Heh, pretty unlikely, but we could very well see the cylons & humans living in peace next season, those cylons with the Sharon and Six copies could have broke off from the main sect of cylons,, there could be some sort of as of yet unknown to us, civil war going on within the cylons, and they looking for place to stay aswell now, Adama and Son come back next season to find a utopia of sorts??? who knows.


I doubt that since why would they have made Baltar surrender? And why march a troop of Centurions down main street?

[Evelisse]

Well, wouldn't really mean it didn't have to be a "forced" peace, like this is how the peace goes or we finish you all off :D

and you know i never heard them tell Baltar to surrender, just told them they had no choice, Baltars' lack of spine lead to uttering the words surrender :D

[Landis-Wolf]

I doubt that since why would they have made Baltar surrender? And why march a troop of Centurions down main street?

To intimidate them.

[Angry Sentinel]

Wow, lot's of good reading here. I only looked over the last 7 pages so forgive me for repeating.

I think it's still possible for Baltar to be a Cylon. I know, I know... there are a lot of strong arguements and evidence that point to this being untrue, but remember two things. First, this is sci-fi, anything is possible. Secondly, A good theory that would play out would be the very same reasons that you guys keep thinking proves he's NOT a cylon...

Why do none of the other cylons appear to know him? Why the need for the CapricaSix seduction and betrayal? Simple, because they are flawed, as admitted in this last episode (which is also playing out a theory that I have had for quite some time now). They make the same flawed decisions and choices that their creators make... right down to the duality issues. We've seen how Sharon could not come to terms with her programming even though it was extremely evident. Why is this? We've seen another Sharon grow (again in relationship with a human) and develope what seems to be different and changing programming. How can this be? Programming so advanced that it can re-write itself??? If these things are possible then why is it not possible for Baltar to have done the same things? It seems to me that the Cylons completely understand that they NEED interaction with humans to help this metamorphosis happen. If this is true, couldn't it also be true that Baltar is a #1 model... perhaps the first and only #1 model, programmed to completely engulf himself in the human experience. The purpose being for the same result that Sharon is the nurturing one... and Six is the seductress, to fully embody these human traits. And programming alone cannot get them there... only experience.

We do remember that humans created these cylons don't we, and we obviously see the philosophical and moral story implications that are always used in this scenario (Human vs machines). But how is it that we keep forgetting that the created never truly learns from it's creator... just becomes more of a beast in different ways. Yes, Baltar represents everything that is wrong with humanity... a little tooo perfectly if you ask me.

[Marc]

Another good episode, a big gamble though. And it sets a precedent, I can see them jumping another year down the road. Like maybe the Adama's and co. find Earth and give them technology in return for their help in creating a fleet, jump a year down the road with Earth having its own spacefleet to go on the offencive. :) I couldn't believe Roslin tried to resort to cheating, or that Baltar would have let it slide like that. He saves her life, the fleets life, doesn't stick her in the brig and so on... yet she will no doubt screw him over again.

I'm a little confused on the surrender thing though as well. The Cylons said the war had ended and that they were going to stop chasing the humans, so why turn up? I would think that would be the more pertinent question than how they were found. Seems a big coincidence they happened to be a lightyear away exactly a year after the nuke anyway.

The fleet couldn't go on the run forever, they had to settle down sometime. And straight after the cylons say they are giving up; 'new caprica' seemed the only logical choice.

Will be interesting to see how 6 has been handling Baltar in her head for a year. And now that they meet properly, is Baltar going to be exposed. Gotta say, for a year of work on the planet... they didn't do much. Its just tents and a mudheap, and neither of which seem very organized. The romans did better. :confused: The planet must have resources to have lived that long, so there must be mineral deposits to starting making buildings and such. Hell, even clay huts seem more advanced than what they had going. Start building ships as well, or at least defence platforms. The Pegasus has manufacturing capabilities, if it can make advanced vipers then why not satellites and such?

Dualla looks like she is an XO now, which is cool. I assume Sharon is still in the brig as Helo still worked on the ship. But what happened to the priests, we didn't see them thrown out of an airlock. They could have been used for slave labour or something at least.

I assume the Cylons will save Anders to put Starbuck in an awkward position, seemed contrived enough. Although I couldn't care less, not any redeeming qualities about the character for me.

Eve - Technically the humans had already surrendered multiple times in the mini. So Baltar was just reiterating what was stated. :)

Angry - Good argument. :up: Although I really hope it isn't, they have overplayed that card way too much as it is in my opinion.

Btw, a good reason why Baltar isn't a Cylon is his spine hasn't glowed during sex like Six does.

[Superfreak]

Wow, lot's of good reading here. I only looked over the last 7 pages so forgive me for repeating.

I think it's still possible for Baltar to be a Cylon. I know, I know... there are a lot of strong arguements and evidence that point to this being untrue, but remember two things. First, this is sci-fi, anything is possible. Secondly, A good theory that would play out would be the very same reasons that you guys keep thinking proves he's NOT a cylon...

Why do none of the other cylons appear to know him? Why the need for the CapricaSix seduction and betrayal? Simple, because they are flawed, as admitted in this last episode (which is also playing out a theory that I have had for quite some time now). They make the same flawed decisions and choices that their creators make... right down to the duality issues. We've seen how Sharon could not come to terms with her programming even though it was extremely evident. Why is this? We've seen another Sharon grow (again in relationship with a human) and develope what seems to be different and changing programming. How can this be? Programming so advanced that it can re-write itself??? If these things are possible then why is it not possible for Baltar to have done the same things? It seems to me that the Cylons completely understand that they NEED interaction with humans to help this metamorphosis happen. If this is true, couldn't it also be true that Baltar is a #1 model... perhaps the first and only #1 model, programmed to completely engulf himself in the human experience. The purpose being for the same result that Sharon is the nurturing one... and Six is the seductress, to fully embody these human traits. And programming alone cannot get them there... only experience.

We do remember that humans created these cylons don't we, and we obviously see the philosophical and moral story implications that are always used in this scenario (Human vs machines). But how is it that we keep forgetting that the created never truly learns from it's creator... just becomes more of a beast in different ways. Yes, Baltar represents everything that is wrong with humanity... a little tooo perfectly if you ask me.


a simple answer to wether baltar is a cylon or not is this: Making Baltar a Cylon, defeats the whole purpose of his character on the show. He is a representation of everything that is wrong with mankind. To make him Cylon, makes the cylons more flawed, and humanity less flawed. It just destroys the whole concept of the show to make Baltar a Cylon.

I wish this discussion would go away. It just makes no logical sense (from the point of view of telling a story) to make Baltar a cylon.

[Darthphere]

Another good episode, a big gamble though. And it sets a precedent, I can see them jumping another year down the road. Like maybe the Adama's and co. find Earth and give them technology in return for their help in creating a fleet, jump a year down the road with Earth having its own spacefleet to go on the offencive. :) I couldn't believe Roslin tried to resort to cheating, or that Baltar would have let it slide like that. He saves her life, the fleets life, doesn't stick her in the brig and so on... yet she will no doubt screw him over again.

I'm a little confused on the surrender thing though as well. The Cylons said the war had ended and that they were going to stop chasing the humans, so why turn up? I would think that would be the more pertinent question than how they were found. Seems a big coincidence they happened to be a lightyear away exactly a year after the nuke anyway.

The fleet couldn't go on the run forever, they had to settle down sometime. And straight after the cylons say they are giving up; 'new caprica' seemed the only logical choice.

Will be interesting to see how 6 has been handling Baltar in her head for a year. And now that they meet properly, is Baltar going to be exposed. Gotta say, for a year of work on the planet... they didn't do much. Its just tents and a mudheap, and neither of which seem very organized. The romans did better. :confused: The planet must have resources to have lived that long, so there must be mineral deposits to starting making buildings and such. Hell, even clay huts seem more advanced than what they had going. Start building ships as well, or at least defence platforms. The Pegasus has manufacturing capabilities, if it can make advanced vipers then why not satellites and such?

Dualla looks like she is an XO now, which is cool. I assume Sharon is still in the brig as Helo still worked on the ship. But what happened to the priests, we didn't see them thrown out of an airlock. They could have been used for slave labour or something at least.

I assume the Cylons will save Anders to put Starbuck in an awkward position, seemed contrived enough. Although I couldn't care less, not any redeeming qualities about the character for me.

Eve - Technically the humans had already surrendered multiple times in the mini. So Baltar was just reiterating what was stated. :)

Angry - Good argument. :up: Although I really hope it isn't, they have overplayed that card way too much as it is in my opinion.

Btw, a good reason why Baltar isn't a Cylon is his spine hasn't glowed during sex like Six does.



My theory is, that they Cylons had no idea where the Humans were. Thye had finally lost them and the Cylons had no clue where to start looking for them. So they decided to activate one of their cylon agents, tell them about the peace agreement. Gina sets off the nuke for two purposes. 1. To destroy part of the fleet, in a way bringing morale to a new low. 2. To contact the Cylons to making them aware of their position. This peace agreement gave humanity and Baltar a new founf confidence that they were indeed safe so they settle on the plantet. Not knowing that a light year away the Cylons have fixed on their position and since the humans chose to believe in the peace agreement are ina holding pattern on this planet. In other words. The Humans fell for it and the Cylons have come to whoop on them.

[Angry Sentinel]

Maybe I should make it clear that I'm not in favour of Baltar being a Cylon. I just think that it has been intentionally left open as a possible story element. And it doesn't totally negate the concept of the many human flaws. Instead strengthening the idea by showing just how flawed any creation becomes trying to emulate humanity, a very flawed creation itself. (The priest cylon practically said this in his speech).

As for my personal feelings I agree with Marc, the idea is almost too obvious and I wouldn't want it to be true unless they could put a fresh spin on it (not sure how that would be possible but whatever).

[Marc]

My theory is, that they Cylons had no idea where the Humans were. Thye had finally lost them and the Cylons had no clue where to start looking for them. So they decided to activate one of their cylon agents, tell them about the peace agreement. Gina sets off the nuke for two purposes. 1. To destroy part of the fleet, in a way bringing morale to a new low. 2. To contact the Cylons to making them aware of their position. This peace agreement gave humanity and Baltar a new founf confidence that they were indeed safe so they settle on the plantet. Not knowing that a light year away the Cylons have fixed on their position and since the humans chose to believe in the peace agreement are ina holding pattern on this planet. In other words. The Humans fell for it and the Cylons have come to whoop on them.

Yeah, but why? We see the Cylon POV and the war heroes voice did indeed carry favour. And there didn't seem to be any kind of deception at hand. So why the big change of heart. Its a bit convoluted a plan as well, to wait a year to 'trap' the humans when really Gina could have sent their position to the cylons, THEN activate the nuke next to Galactica or something. Along with all the other agents being activated. And with all the ships no longer guarding the colony planets, they could surround the fleet in one move. Just a bit lost on the motive at the moment.

The general problem is they can't run forever, they were not going to find another habitable planet perfectly hidden like they did. It seems just a tad out of order for them to drag a Cylon fleet to Earth and endanger all of... erm us, just in the small hope we can beat their Cylon empire for them. Unless BSG is set in our future and 'we' are the advanced race. They should have been consolidating on the planet, building new ships and weapons with the planets resources. Instead they just made tents and shacks. :eek:

[Evelisse]

Rumor going that next season takes place 5 years! since the finale, sooo yea have no clue what direction they'd be taking it :D

And the theory that someone said here that I like, where the Cylons were for those 40yrs was a planet they found called earth.

[Darthphere]

Yeah, but why? We see the Cylon POV and the war heroes voice did indeed carry favour. And there didn't seem to be any kind of deception at hand. So why the big change of heart. Its a bit convoluted a plan as well, to wait a year to 'trap' the humans when really Gina could have sent their position to the cylons, THEN activate the nuke next to Galactica or something. Along with all the other agents being activated. And with all the ships no longer guarding the colony planets, they could surround the fleet in one move. Just a bit lost on the motive at the moment.

The general problem is they can't run forever, they were not going to find another habitable planet perfectly hidden like they did. It seems just a tad out of order for them to drag a Cylon fleet to Earth and endanger all of... erm us, just in the small hope we can beat their Cylon empire for them. Unless BSG is set in our future and 'we' are the advanced race. They should have been consolidating on the planet, building new ships and weapons with the planets resources. Instead they just made tents and shacks. :eek:



I honestly dont know what to say. The Gina answer is obvious, theres no way she could gt off Cloud 9 with the nuke so she had to do what she had to do. Pretty much were left to a guessing game David Eick said that whatever the fans think is going to happen next, were wrong. So who knows where theyre going with this, and with BSG it wont be the most obvious answer.

[Donnie Darko]

I know this doesn't contribute much to the conversation... but damn it I love this show. I keep trying to get others to watch it, but other than my roommates, none of my friends will.

[Marc]

Evelisse - Holy jeebus! I don't know what to think about that. Judging by what a year did. Admiral Adama is gonna have a beard, Apollo is gonna be a lardo, Baltar is going to have his own harem, Galen is going to have his own rebellion and Gaiter is going to age another 20 years.

I think I said that... and if I didn't I'm stealing it. :D

I honestly dont know what to say. The Gina answer is obvious, theres no way she could gt off Cloud 9 with the nuke so she had to do what she had to do. Pretty much were left to a guessing game David Eick said that whatever the fans think is going to happen next, were wrong. So who knows where theyre going with this, and with BSG it wont be the most obvious answer.

Not completely. Because she manages to get off Pegasus easily enough after killing the captain and get onto Cloud 9 (probably the most secure civilian ship). And Baltar managed to get a nuke out of Galactica without a problem. As well as the accusor 6 of Baltar who disappeared without a trace after Baltar was proven innocent of the fake photo's. Or the suicide bomber guy who almost killed the commander. They can get around when they want. Could probably just get D'Anna to use her press pass to get on board the ship with a nuke.

Eick can't possibly guess every fan guess though. :D Unless the series suddenly becomes about home gardening... although I just guessed that. Yeah, probably won't be obvious. Can't wait. :)

[Angry Sentinel]

I know this doesn't contribute much to the conversation... but damn it I love this show. I keep trying to get others to watch it, but other than my roommates, none of my friends will. Trick them... tell them it's porn and then show them one of the eps with Gina and Baltar getting it on... they'll love it. :up:

[Evelisse]

I can see them doing the 5 year thing, if only to put some more age on Sharons child, so what that'd make her around 6 then? If the child is to play such a big role needs to be at least around that age, or maybe it starts some accelerated growing soon who knows. Only thing that would really bother me in the 5 years idea is that i hope they dont start giving all the couples more babies, a baby between Lee and Dualla would really complicate things..

[sleekbelle]

I love sci-fi shows, books, movies anything. Sci-fi is and always will be my favorite genre. I adore Firefly, adore Farscape, and have been finally getting into Stargate Atlantis though I'm not super crazy about it. I'm not a huge SG-1 fan I will watch it just to get a sci-fi fix.

Loving sci-fi as I do, I asked myself the other night why I dislike Battlestar Galactica. I liked the original series. So I keep giving it a chance. It's getting rave reviews and appears to be a solid show that Sci-Fi will keep around for awhile. The production values are high. The acting is solid. So why do I always skip this show?

I watched a bit of it the other night and suddenly realized that it's not .... well.... any fun. The writing is good, but it's not clever if that makes sense. And I don't find any of the characters likable.

Firefly was fun and clever. Unusual twist on an old premise. Interesting characters that all have their own agenda and individual personalities. Unique twist on a vision of the future. Excellent acting. Funny. Sad. Scary. Everything.

Farscape. I'm a huge huge fan and that's being conservative. Very original. Sometimes you never knew where it was going to take you, good twists on plots and lots of weirdness. Best villian (Scorpius) outside of Darth Vader himself. GREAT characters. Lots of suspense, drama, humor.

Now every show has it's ups and down, neither Firefly nor Farscape are perfect, but at least they're *fun*. And I don't mean ha-ha funny fun. "24" is fun and it's far from funny, but it suspensful with a lot of action and a tight *fast* storyline.

I'm NOT bashing Battlestar Gallactica nor the people who like it, I'm just totally confused as to why *I* don't care for it. Except for the fact that it takes place on a space ship, there seems to be very little sci-fi about it. Maybe that's why I can't get into it. :confused:

-Sleek

[Evelisse]

Well, only watching a bit of it the other night really doesn't give you a complete picture especially since the show has been going undergoing some major changes, I suggest catching a viewing of the season 1, first half of season 2 dvds, if you like all those other sci-fi shows you mentioned, Galactica should be right up your alley.

[Darthphere]

I love sci-fi shows, books, movies anything. Sci-fi is and always will be my favorite genre. I adore Firefly, adore Farscape, and have been finally getting into Stargate Atlantis though I'm not super crazy about it. I'm not a huge SG-1 fan I will watch it just to get a sci-fi fix.

Loving sci-fi as I do, I asked myself the other night why I dislike Battlestar Galactica. I liked the original series. So I keep giving it a chance. It's getting rave reviews and appears to be a solid show that Sci-Fi will keep around for awhile. The production values are high. The acting is solid. So why do I always skip this show?

I watched a bit of it the other night and suddenly realized that it's not .... well.... any fun. The writing is good, but it's not clever if that makes sense. And I don't find any of the characters likable.

Firefly was fun and clever. Unusual twist on an old premise. Interesting characters that all have their own agenda and individual personalities. Unique twist on a vision of the future. Excellent acting. Funny. Sad. Scary. Everything.

Farscape. I'm a huge huge fan and that's being conservative. Very original. Sometimes you never knew where it was going to take you, good twists on plots and lots of weirdness. Best villian (Scorpius) outside of Darth Vader himself. GREAT characters. Lots of suspense, drama, humor.

Now every show has it's ups and down, neither Firefly nor Farscape are perfect, but at least they're *fun*. And I don't mean ha-ha funny fun. "24" is fun and it's far from funny, but it suspensful with a lot of action and a tight *fast* storyline.

I'm NOT bashing Battlestar Gallactica nor the people who like it, I'm just totally confused as to why *I* don't care for it. Except for the fact that it takes place on a space ship, there seems to be very little sci-fi about it. Maybe that's why I can't get into it. :confused:

-Sleek


I get what youre saying but heres the thing. BSG is a human drama that happens to take place in a sci-fi element. Like lets say a show like ER. Its about the characters they just happen to work in an hospital. Ive always seen BSg as a drama first, a sci-fi show after.

[sleekbelle]

I get what youre saying but heres the thing. BSG is a human drama that happens to take place in a sci-fi element. Like lets say a show like ER. Its about the characters they just happen to work in an hospital. Ive always seen BSg as a drama first, a sci-fi show after.

Yeah, the heavy drama may be the death nell for me... if it was the other way around, sci-fi action then drama, I would be more drawn to it. I've never been big on heavy drama, the TV shows I enjoy always have a elements of action or suspense "24" or or some kind of fantastic, sci-fi or fantasy element like Ghost Hunters, Haunted, all the UFO shows, Smallville, Stargate Atlantis etc... I think the only odd show I like is "My Name is Earl" because it's just so darned funny and silly.

I was thinking about checking out the new show with David Haysbert called "The Unit". I like David Mamet.

Since I do Netflix, I should start renting the first season of BG. Maybe if I get caught up I can start enjoying some of the characters.

-Sleek

[Darthphere]

Yeah, the heavy drama may be the death nell for me... if it was the other way around, sci-fi action then drama, I would be more drawn to it. I've never been big on heavy drama, the TV shows I enjoy always have a elements of action or suspense "24" or or some kind of fantastic, sci-fi or fantasy element like Ghost Hunters, Haunted, all the UFO shows, Smallville, Stargate Atlantis etc... I think the only odd show I like is "My Name is Earl" because it's just so darned funny and silly.

I was thinking about checking out the new show with David Haysbert called "The Unit". I like David Mamet.

Since I do Netflix, I should start renting the first season of BG. Maybe if I get caught up I can start enjoying some of the characters.

-Sleek


The thing is when BSG gets into action its so amazing. Litereally youll wonder how they get those special effects on a tv show. Its that good. Im pretty sure if you start from the beginning you'll enjoy the hell out of it. Knowing the characters and plot lines that were set up in the first episode that are being brought up in the newer episodes. I always compare this more to like a Lost than any other show.

[huskerwebhead]

I get what youre saying but heres the thing. BSG is a human drama that happens to take place in a sci-fi element. Like lets say a show like ER. Its about the characters they just happen to work in an hospital. Ive always seen BSg as a drama first, a sci-fi show after.

Absolutely. 100% agree. It's why I've been able to get so many people into it that don't usually like Sci-Fi. It's got enough Sci-Fi for the Sci-Fi fan to love it, and enough drama/acting/story for your average TV-goer to get into it.

[huskerwebhead]

I'm a few pages behind, and lazy, so instead of writing up a whole bunch of my own stuff I'll just mooch off of someone else's. :)

Another good episode, a big gamble though. And it sets a precedent, I can see them jumping another year down the road. Like maybe the Adama's and co. find Earth and give them technology in return for their help in creating a fleet, jump a year down the road with Earth having its own spacefleet to go on the offencive. :) I couldn't believe Roslin tried to resort to cheating, or that Baltar would have let it slide like that. He saves her life, the fleets life, doesn't stick her in the brig and so on... yet she will no doubt screw him over again.

I don't think we'll see Earth in there. That would mean the series would be coming to an end soon. :) At least, I hope we don't. But it is an interesting question...where did the fleet jump to? And Adama says they'll be back...with something like 4 Basestars jumping in...what are they going to be able to do? He must have some sort of plan.

I'm a little confused on the surrender thing though as well. The Cylons said the war had ended and that they were going to stop chasing the humans, so why turn up? I would think that would be the more pertinent question than how they were found. Seems a big coincidence they happened to be a lightyear away exactly a year after the nuke anyway.

To steal a line from James T. Kirk: "Don't trust them...don't believe them." I never bought the whole Cylon's Leaving/Not Chasing deal. I don't think Adama or Roslin did either. I'm sure it was just a ploy to get the fleet to loosen up a little...or at the very least to create some inner turmoil. Regardless of what facts they had...you know the fleet would be split between those that believe the cylons gave up and those that don't believe. Either way, it slows down the fleet.

As far as the timeframe of their arrive, I don't think they specified when they found the remains of the nuke explosion. They may have found it a few weeks/months earlier and just took their time getting the troops and ships/plan together. I think Gina knew what she was doing when she set that nuke off. I'm sure the fleets communications are monitored so she couldn't just send out a message...this was her best bet. At the same time it was hurting the fleet in a big way.

The fleet couldn't go on the run forever, they had to settle down sometime. And straight after the cylons say they are giving up; 'new caprica' seemed the only logical choice.

True, but one thing that bothered me. Everyone knows there are likely more Cylon agents within the fleet somewhere. How can anyone think they would be safe on that planet? I'd be thinking about how just one Cylon agent could give away their position somehow. Unless they found them all...they are always at risk at thier position being given away.

Will be interesting to see how 6 has been handling Baltar in her head for a year. And now that they meet properly, is Baltar going to be exposed. Gotta say, for a year of work on the planet... they didn't do much. Its just tents and a mudheap, and neither of which seem very organized. The romans did better. :confused: The planet must have resources to have lived that long, so there must be mineral deposits to starting making buildings and such. Hell, even clay huts seem more advanced than what they had going. Start building ships as well, or at least defence platforms. The Pegasus has manufacturing capabilities, if it can make advanced vipers then why not satellites and such?

In regards to them not doing much, I think that has alot to do with Baltar. He seems to be more of a dictator than a president. It's obvious the power has gone way to his head. Everyone is low on medicines, food, etc. And I'm pretty sure at some point during the initial scans of the planet they made mention of how there was limited places for human life to settle...and even that would be difficult. Perhaps it's just harder than initial expected. Baltar feeling the need to control everything doesn't help them get things done.

Dualla looks like she is an XO now, which is cool. I assume Sharon is still in the brig as Helo still worked on the ship. But what happened to the priests, we didn't see them thrown out of an airlock. They could have been used for slave labour or something at least.

I think this is going to be one of the more interesting things to watch. It's obvious alot has changed in the crew...Dualla and Helo look to have moved up in position, Gaeta (sp?) is Baltar's assistant (vp?), Cali and the Cheif are a couple and she's pregnant, Starbuck is married, etc. It will be interesting to see how everyone will fit back into place if/when the fleet goes on the run again. Will everyone fall back into their same positions? Looking forward to it.

All in all this series just get's better and better. I didn't think they would do something like this. I really expected Admr. Adama to stand up to Baltar and split up the fleet or something....but he didn't. The end was just perfect though...The fleet jumping out and the Cylon Raiders doing low flies over the camp. October is far too long to wait.

[Darthphere]

Ive been wondering. We all know gaeta has a hard on for Baltar. Im wondering, if lets say the elction was reversed that he saw that there were fradulent votes for Baltar pushing him ahead of Roslin, would he be so keen on reporting it. A couple of things to think about. 1. He is a big fan of Baltar. 2. He was very excited about settling on the new planet as everyone was and Roslin was against that. Think about it, discuss.

[huskerwebhead]

Ive been wondering. We all know gaeta has a hard on for Baltar. Im wondering, if lets say the elction was reversed that he saw that there were fradulent votes for Baltar pushing him ahead of Roslin, would he be so keen on reporting it. A couple of things to think about. 1. He is a big fan of Baltar. 2. He was very excited about settling on the new planet as everyone was and Roslin was against that. Think about it, discuss.

While I agree Gaeta thinks Baltar is a good guy, I think he's a little too much of a goody-two-shoes to not report something like that. He's niave...yes, but he also seems to have a pretty strong sense of duty to the military. I get the feeling he'd buckle to whoever won and whatever their decision was.

[Darthphere]

While I agree Gaeta thinks Baltar is a good guy, I think he's a little too much of a goody-two-shoes to not report something like that. He's niave...yes, but he also seems to have a pretty strong sense of duty to the military. I get the feeling he'd buckle to whoever won and whatever their decision was.


I agree. It just seems like he rushed to judgement in this case. Tigh said he would take care of it. But 5 minutes later he was phoning Adama. I wouldve waited to see if Tigh actually did something about it or not.

[huskerwebhead]

Maybe, Tigh isn't held in too high of regard though...and he was pretty transperant in that he wasn't going to do anything. He just didn't seem too shocked when Gaeta told him...I think that gave him away.

[Marc]

I'm a few pages behind, and lazy, so instead of writing up a whole bunch of my own stuff I'll just mooch off of someone else's. :)

Mooch away my friend, mooch away. :)

I don't think we'll see Earth in there. That would mean the series would be coming to an end soon. :) At least, I hope we don't. But it is an interesting question...where did the fleet jump to? And Adama says they'll be back...with something like 4 Basestars jumping in...what are they going to be able to do? He must have some sort of plan.

Earth is just a destination, not the journey itself. :) I don't think Earth would be the end of it or need's to be as there should/could be fall out. Although I don't think they'll find Earth straight away, but unless the Cylons turn on each other or the fleet gets help there is no way they can mount a rescue mission. They were barely operable as it was, let alone cut off from their resources. And if the 5 year jump is true then the fleet will need serious help in order to survive. Even if they get help I can't see how they can rescure the colony by fighting as the Cylons are right in amongst the population. I think the fact D'Anna wasn't amongst the greeting party and Lawless being signed on for a major arc in season 3 might suggest a civil war.

To steal a line from James T. Kirk: "Don't trust them...don't believe them." I never bought the whole Cylon's Leaving/Not Chasing deal. I don't think Adama or Roslin did either. I'm sure it was just a ploy to get the fleet to loosen up a little...or at the very least to create some inner turmoil. Regardless of what facts they had...you know the fleet would be split between those that believe the cylons gave up and those that don't believe. Either way, it slows down the fleet.

As far as the timeframe of their arrive, I don't think they specified when they found the remains of the nuke explosion. They may have found it a few weeks/months earlier and just took their time getting the troops and ships/plan together. I think Gina knew what she was doing when she set that nuke off. I'm sure the fleets communications are monitored so she couldn't just send out a message...this was her best bet. At the same time it was hurting the fleet in a big way.

What was to believe though? We see the Cylons in 'downloaded' wanting peace, at least the war heroes. Unless they know us humans are watching them and are tricking us the viewer as well. :D And again, if they wanted to demolish the fleet they have had ample opportunity in the past. They could have simply sent a larger fleet, BSG could barely handle one basestar on its own. If early on they had sent a couple more back when they only had 33 minutes or whatever it was before the Cylons caught them again... then game over.

Well it seemed to be exactly a year later and as they state they were a lightyear away so it matches up. I'm not sure about Gina, I think she wanted to die more than anything else and after sleeping with Baltar she felt she could do that. Dunno yet.

True, but one thing that bothered me. Everyone knows there are likely more Cylon agents within the fleet somewhere. How can anyone think they would be safe on that planet? I'd be thinking about how just one Cylon agent could give away their position somehow. Unless they found them all...they are always at risk at thier position being given away.

To be fair though, you're never going to be 100% certain the fleet is secure unless they manage to test every single person. Even then, who is to say the Cylons don't work out a way around it. And the same is true whether they are in the fleet, or on a colony, or on Earth. I don't think they can ever be safe with the Cylons still in existence. They would have to wipe out the Cylons or work out a permanent peace to make sure. Both of which they aren't in a position to do without a fleet, peace often only comes when you have the power to respond with war, otherwise you have no bargaining position and peace is just another word for surrender. And to get a fleet they have to stop running, consolidate and rebuild.

In regards to them not doing much, I think that has alot to do with Baltar. He seems to be more of a dictator than a president. It's obvious the power has gone way to his head. Everyone is low on medicines, food, etc. And I'm pretty sure at some point during the initial scans of the planet they made mention of how there was limited places for human life to settle...and even that would be difficult. Perhaps it's just harder than initial expected. Baltar feeling the need to control everything doesn't help them get things done.

Again though, he hasn't got the position to do that. The military are in a far better position, they can simply declare martial law as they did with Roslin if things were that bad. In this case though they don't even like Baltar so are not going to think about it as much as they did with Roslin. The planet may be somewhat barren, medicines come from plantlife for the most part, plants that aren't going to exist on that planet, that haven't grown in the same enviroment, evolved with us to remain useful and part of the food chain. Its probably difficult yeah, but there has to be mineral deposits and the like simply due to it being a planet. I would have thought though that they would be using the planet as a staging platform to find more resources.

I think this is going to be one of the more interesting things to watch. It's obvious alot has changed in the crew...Dualla and Helo look to have moved up in position, Gaeta (sp?) is Baltar's assistant (vp?), Cali and the Cheif are a couple and she's pregnant, Starbuck is married, etc. It will be interesting to see how everyone will fit back into place if/when the fleet goes on the run again. Will everyone fall back into their same positions? Looking forward to it.

All in all this series just get's better and better. I didn't think they would do something like this. I really expected Admr. Adama to stand up to Baltar and split up the fleet or something....but he didn't. The end was just perfect though...The fleet jumping out and the Cylon Raiders doing low flies over the camp. October is far too long to wait.

Yeah, I'm not sure which way I want them to go as well. I mean after all the changes it seems silly for things to go back. The Starbuck/Apollo relationship as far as I am concerned is dead forever. Wouldn't make sense for Starbuck after getting married twice to suddenly again want Apollo, especially since the both of them are extremely unconcerned with jumping into bed with another person every other week. :D

I think he would have done if he was in serious opposition to him and had the backing of his crew, doesn't seem like they hate him that much. I mean the populace is small enough to be considered a mob, and mob's aren't exactly known for their understanding. Having access to him helps that idea whereas Roslin was seperated on another ship.

Nice chatting. :up:

[Superfreak]

great discussion...

anyhow, I've found that predicting this show is next to impossible, I just can't wait until Adama and the galactica return to open up a can of whoop ass.

here's a relatively plausible idea though: If the cylons have come in full force, then perhaps our to battlestars will return to the colonies, and perhaps rearm etc.

[Evelisse]

Wonder if the Reptilian race that created the cylons in the originals, will ever make an appearance in some form on this new show, with obvious changes.

[Darthphere]

Wonder if the Reptilian race that created the cylons in the originals, will ever make an appearance in some form on this new show, with obvious changes.


God I hope not.

[Darthphere]

great discussion...

anyhow, I've found that predicting this show is next to impossible, I just can't wait until Adama and the galactica return to open up a can of whoop ass.

here's a relatively plausible idea though: If the cylons have come in full force, then perhaps our to battlestars will return to the colonies, and perhaps rearm etc.


You know I was thinking the same thing. With the colonies unoccupied its possible that they go back and rescue some survivors if there are any and come back full force, maybe with an extra Battlestar or two. Who knows, as has been said its next to impossible to guess whats coming next.

[Maul Rats]

Dooood, that last 15 minutes of the season finale BLEW MY MIND. I LOVE bleak visions of the future where there are GARBAGE CAN FIRES warming the masses ... it's just not a bleak future without a good old-fashioned hobo garbage can fire. That was some good s***. Those writers are earning their MF'ing keep! EW Ranked Battlestar as its #1 must-see show. Too bad it wasn't on HBO or Showtime where tons of people would watch it. Sci Fi is pretty nichey.

[Angry Sentinel]

Whoever said that this series reminds them of the Old Robotech Macross saga, hit the nail on the head. I am just now realizing that this is a major reason why I like this show.

here's a relatively plausible idea though: If the cylons have come in full force, then perhaps our to battlestars will return to the colonies, and perhaps rearm etc.

You know I was thinking the same thing. With the colonies unoccupied its possible that they go back and rescue some survivors if there are any and come back full force, maybe with an extra Battlestar or two. Who knows, as has been said its next to impossible to guess whats coming next. Ding! Ding! Ding! we have a winner... I believe that the whole point of the two battlestar jumping away was to go and get better resources(and with this added rumor of five years it's really starting to make sense). They made it clear that the resources of new Caprica were crappy... but the original colonies should have plenty of scraps and scrapes... not to mention the old mining facilities, etc. They have the entire solar system of their own materials at their disposal. In five year's time they (the fleet that jumped away) could easily build other battleships or even another battlestar. And remember, they're not being chased by the Cylon fleet, so that's something else at their disposal... time!

Again though, he hasn't got the position to do that. The military are in a far better position, they can simply declare martial law as they did with Roslin if things were that bad. In this case though they don't even like Baltar so are not going to think about it as much as they did with Roslin. The writers consistently show certain characters or characteristics growing up, depending on the situation. For example, Adama is learning, he already saw the fleet split once, and we all saw how that turned out. The man became so passionate about the fleet being a family that he was willing to admit that under no circumstances can they afford to be divided. That's why I believe he was so quick to step up and do the right thing, knowing full well that Baltar's leadership would be a joke. And Adama, at the beginning, wanted to stay and fight with just his battlestar. It was the president that showed him the human race needed to survive, and therefore run. Now 21 months later he has to make that call again and he does it. This will pay off for them. Conversely there are those who haven't learned a thing. For example, the population or non military parts of the fleet. They continue to be petty, and selfish, and VERY Foolish. As shown by the criminal trade, the stupid election choices, and constant emotional upheavals.

What was to believe though? We see the Cylons in 'downloaded' wanting peace, at least the war heroes. Unless they know us humans are watching them and are tricking us the viewer as well. :D And again, if they wanted to demolish the fleet they have had ample opportunity in the past. They could have simply sent a larger fleet, BSG could barely handle one basestar on its own. If early on they had sent a couple more back when they only had 33 minutes or whatever it was before the Cylons caught them again... then game over
I really agree with this, I found myself asking the same question. But then I remembered the Cylon priest's message. He said they were following other interests for the time being... He implied that whatever they were doing, it wasn't going to be forever. And he refused to divulge where the Cylon fleet was heading. From what they said when they landed, they weren't following the fleet. I believe they genuinely just happened across them because of the nuclear blast. And figured, hey... this must be fate, we weren't even looking for them and here they are! Since we're here, the God's must want us to teach them how we've learned to be peaceful...Let's make them have peace with us! Definitely not the same as trying to hunt down and destroy or study the human race... but just as wrong :up:

[Marc]

Ding! Ding! Ding! we have a winner... I believe that the whole point of the two battlestar jumping away was to go and get better resourses(and with this added rumor of five years it's really starting to make sense). They made it clear that the resources of new Caprica were crappy... but the original colonies should have plenty of scraps and scrapes... not to mention the old mining facilities, etc. They have the entire solar system of their own materials at Their disposal. In five year's time they (the fleet that jumped away) could easily build other battleships or even another battlestar. And remember, they're not being chased by the Cylon fleet, so that's something else at their disposal... time!

Yeah, but they've got no one to mine it. :D I would entertain the idea that there are maybe some battlestars hanging around in hangers, where the crew were killed man to man. But again, its a question of who are they going to get to run these things... they can barely run their own ships as it is.

The writers consistently show certain characters or characteristics growing up, depending on the situation. For example, Adama is learning, he already saw the fleet split once, and we all saw how that turned out. The man became so passionate about the fleet being a family that he was willing to admit that under no circumstances can they afford to be divided. That's why I believe he was so quick to step up and do the right thing, knowing full well that Baltar's leadership would be a joke. And Adama, at the beginning, wanted to stay and fight with just his battlestar. It was the president that showed him the human race needed to survive, and therefore run. Now 9 months later he has to make that call again and he does it. This will pay off for them. Conversely there are those who haven't learned a thing. For example, the population or non military parts of the fleet. They continue to be petty, and selfish, and VERY Foolish. As shown by the criminal trade, the stupid election choices and constant emotional upheavals.

We don't know whether it has been a joke though, him sleeping around aside. I find it hard to believe that if everyone hates him as the president that he'd still be in office. Nor do I think Adama would, having seen how things were run, let it all slide. Hell Starbuck punches her own officers if they upset her a little, doubt she'd have any reservations in letting Baltar know her mind. And clearly the military crew accepted the idea of living on the planet, Adama didn't have to 'release' his men if he was so opposed.

Personally I don't think the election results are wrong if Roslin being the only other candidate is the choice. She completely betrayed the idea of her position, if she is so willing to cast aside the rules for which she campaigns then how can there be order. Its like what Apollo said originally of the elections, if they don't follow the law then he isn't a pilot, she isn't a president, and Adama isn't a commander and none of them have any authority. But I think you still have the ability to have a vote of no confidence in your president if he is obviously running things into the ground. Most western laws seem to be present in BSG, so there must be something similar.

I really agree with this, I found myself asking the same question. But then I remembered the Cylon priest's message. He said they were following other interests for the time being... He implied that whatever they were doing, it wasn't going to be forever. And he refused to divulge where the Cylon fleet was heading. From what they said when they landed, they weren't following the fleet. I believe they genuinely just happened across them because of the nuclear blast. And figured, hey... this must be fate, we weren't even looking for them and here they are! Since we're here, the God's must want us to teach them how we've learned to be peaceful...Let's make them have peace with us! Definitely not the same as trying to hunt down and destroy or study the human race... but just as wrong :up:

He also said the Cylons were wrong for chasing them, and wrong to attack their race, that it made them no better than a human. The time being thing I would consign to whatever task they had being temporary. A sound theory, we'll see I guess. :D I dunno, I keep thinking that there is some hierarchy to the Cylons beyond what we have seen, that everything they do isn't just spur of the moment but fully planned ahead of time. Even if the copies aren't fully aware of this. Maybe the idea is to have a fresh start at life and realised they would always be subject to the 12 colonies view of them being the enemy. And thought they would goto Earth to find a new existence free from all the baggage they would have, maybe they couldn't without the colonies help in finding it. Which left them trying to find a way to 'motivate' the humans. Meh, lots of ways they can go.:confused:

[Superfreak]

Whoever said that this series reminds them of the Old Robotech Macross saga, hit the nail on the head. I am just now realizing that this is a major reason why I like this show.




that was me, and it's so true. Both shows are based on essentially the same thing... humanities last surviving battleship (in the case of macross, only surviving battleship and population).

the Zentradi could also infiltrate the Macross, just like the cylons can infiltrate the galactica fleet. The Zentradi were also devoid of emotion and passion, and this lead them to be intrigued, by humanity (the microns). Much is the same in BSG2000. The cylons are seeking that part of the human condition which eludes them, just like the giant aliens in Macross. The Macross also housed a city which they picked up by accident in the second or third episode of the saga, just like BSG. Macross even had the relationship between it's bestest pilot, and a Meltran (female zentradi), who eventually had a kid, which was used as a weapon (ah max stirling, super cool) And on and on it goes.

It's interesting because Macross was peiced together, to form a show much like the original BSG, but it expanded on it. But being a cartoon, a lot of the depth was lost. BSG2000 has taken the original BSG, taken a lot of the great additions that Macross added to the 'space battleship' formula, and synthesized a great show.

the only thing that BSG2000 doesn't have (can't really have either) that Macross had, was the uber cool transforming Valkyries, essentially F-14 that could transform into robots in order to fight the Zentradi and Meltrandi (who were 40 foot tall soldier humans)

[Superfreak]

You know I was thinking the same thing. With the colonies unoccupied its possible that they go back and rescue some survivors if there are any and come back full force, maybe with an extra Battlestar or two. Who knows, as has been said its next to impossible to guess whats coming next.


I think the idea of them returning with more battlestars is totally not gonna happen (it would defeat the purpose of the title of the show), but coming back with a full load of nukes, some more salvaged vipers, and a ****load of ammo is very possible. Hell, they could go back to the Ragnar Anchorage, and pick up everything that they couldn't grab the first time they were there

[huskerwebhead]

I think the idea of them returning with more battlestars is totally not gonna happen (it would defeat the purpose of the title of the show), but coming back with a full load of nukes, some more salvaged vipers, and a ****load of ammo is very possible. Hell, they could go back to the Ragnar Anchorage, and pick up everything that they couldn't grab the first time they were there

I agree. Same with what was said above about them not having enough people to man the other Battlestars....let alone build another. They had a skelton crew...spreading them over another Battlestar would be almost impossible. I really think they are going to do something that will blow our mind...something that we haven't even thought of. All of these possabilities seem logical...but I fully expect the writers to turn this thing on it's head. My spider-sense is telling me that the Pegasus may get sacrificed in some way.

[Darthphere]

I agree. Same with what was said above about them not having enough people to man the other Battlestars....let alone build another. They had a skelton crew...spreading them over another Battlestar would be almost impossible. I really think they are going to do something that will blow our mind...something that we haven't even thought of. All of these possabilities seem logical...but I fully expect the writers to turn this thing on it's head. My spider-sense is telling me that the Pegasus may get sacrificed in some way.


I made this equation for you. Empty Pegasus+a **** load of nukes=big explosion.

[huskerwebhead]

I made this equation for you. Empty Pegasus+a **** load of nukes=big explosion.

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!!!

[Angry Sentinel]

Oh yeah, we're all tapped into the same wire. Anyone notice that Pegasus is a horse... just a stone's throw to make it a trojan horse!

Good job people

[Darthphere]

Oh yeah, we're all tapped into the same wire. Anyone notice that Pegasus is a horse... just a stone's throw to make it a trojan horse!

Good job people


I honestly think its for the best, considering theres been a serious lack of Apollo on the show since hes been on the Pegasus, and it aint right.

[huskerwebhead]

I honestly think its for the best, considering theres been a serious lack of Apollo on the show since hes been on the Pegasus, and it aint right.

That's for damn sure.

[War Lord]

Wonder if the Reptilian race that created the cylons in the originals, will ever make an appearance in some form on this new show, with obvious changes.

You'll have to ask Sum of God on that one.

[huskerwebhead]

You'll have to ask Sum of God on that one.

Uh oh...it's on now. :up:

[Angry Sentinel]

We don't know whether it has been a joke though, him sleeping around aside. I find it hard to believe that if everyone hates him as the president that he'd still be in office. Nor do I think Adama would, having seen how things were run, let it all slide. Hell Starbuck punches her own officers if they upset her a little, doubt she'd have any reservations in letting Baltar know her mind. And clearly the military crew accepted the idea of living on the planet, Adama didn't have to 'release' his men if he was so opposed. Ok, calling his admin a joke may be a little harsh. But I still cling to the fact that they have showed Adama grow into being a passive leader. He seems to have "The will of the people is ok by me" attitude. And after trying the marshal law, and commanding with an iron fist thing, I can't say I blame him. Besides even though there are some hints that there are a lot of social problems, there was no military threat. So he would feel no need to intervene... now that the Cylons are back, however is a different subject. And Starbuck was preoccupied, she had resounded herself to a married life. No time to make trouble for the likes of Baltar or lead political and social rebellion.

Personally I don't think the election results are wrong if Roslin being the only other candidate is the choice. She completely betrayed the idea of her position, if she is so willing to cast aside the rules for which she campaigns then how can there be order. Its like what Apollo said originally of the elections, if they don't follow the law then he isn't a pilot, she isn't a president, and Adama isn't a commander and none of them have any authority. But I think you still have the ability to have a vote of no confidence in your president if he is obviously running things into the ground. Most western laws seem to be present in BSG, so there must be something similar.
I'm gonna strongly agree with most of this. Roslin's character has been depicted as deteriorating for some time, and I don't mean her health. I think that cancer is a subtle commentary on the content of her character (or maybe any politician). Remember who gave the suggestion to kill Lilly Kane... oh yes, the school teacher. Don't get me wrong, it definitely seemed like it was going to be needed, but where did the school teacher get her Tony Soprano mask?

It was clearly shown with the scenes involving the Chief that there was some social issues in labor disputes. I think political turmoil would eventually have followed. Am I blaming Baltar for that, not totally, that's just how politics are. But his playboy lifestyle and feigned indifference towards the social situations suggests something that, both Adama and Roslin seemed to elude to before.

I dunno, I keep thinking that there is some hierarchy to the Cylons beyond what we have seen, that everything they do isn't just spur of the moment but fully planned ahead of time. Even if the copies aren't fully aware of this. Maybe the idea is to have a fresh start at life and realised they would always be subject to the 12 colonies view of them being the enemy. And thought they would goto Earth to find a new existence free from all the baggage they would have, maybe they couldn't without the colonies help in finding it. Which left them trying to find a way to 'motivate' the humans. Meh, lots of ways they can go.:confused: I initially had this feeling as well, but I'm starting to wonder if their plans aren't starting to get away from them. Still I believe there is quite a bit we don't know about the inner workings of the Cylon empire... heck we don't even know who all twelve human models are.

[Angry Sentinel]

the Zentradi could also infiltrate the Macross, just like the cylons can infiltrate the galactica fleet. The Zentradi were also devoid of emotion and passion, and this lead them to be intrigued, by humanity (the microns). Much is the same in BSG2000. The cylons are seeking that part of the human condition which eludes them, just like the giant aliens in Macross. The Macross also housed a city which they picked up by accident in the second or third episode of the saga, just like BSG. Macross even had the relationship between it's bestest pilot, and a Meltran (female zentradi), who eventually had a kid, which was used as a weapon (ah max stirling, super cool) And on and on it goes. ... I know, the minute I read your comment a light bulb blew up in my head. That feeling of familiarity was coming from Robotech... And how sad that I had not put those two things together until I read it. Then all of the shows simularites just start jumping in my head. It's really scary when that happens. I know all things have shared origins, but I usually pick up on them right away... I must be getting old :o :(

[Superfreak]

can I say that the Trojan Horse theory sounds like the coolest freiken thing EVER.

And a response to someone who said: the fleet is essentially depopulated right now and is operating on skeleton crews.

You want to hear a very BSG2000 thing to do. What if this 'invasion' by the cylons is the first step in some sort of cylon civil war. And as a result, wouldn't it be interesting if Galactica and Fleet allied with a rebel Cylon faction... and get themselves a crew. Wouldn't that be a creepy twist?

[Cap1970]

... I know, the minute I read your comment a light bulb blew up in my head. That feeling of familiarity was coming from Robotech... And how sad that I had not put those two things together until I read it. Then all of the shows simularites just start jumping in my head. It's really scary when that happens. I know all things have shared origins, but I usually pick up on them right away... I must be getting old :o :(

And I hope you saw the episode "Scar." We've already discussed it's similarity's with other shows (Space: Above and Beyond) - but the way Starbuck and Kat play off one another reminded me of Isamu and Guld from Macross Plus.

October cannot get here fast enough.

[Marc]

Ok, calling his admin a joke may be a little harsh. But I still cling to the fact that they have showed Adama grow into being a passive leader. He seems to have "The will of the people is ok by me" attitude. And after trying the marshal law, and commanding with an iron fist thing, I can't say I blame him. Besides even though there are some hints that there are a lot of social problems, there was no military threat. So he would feel no need to intervene... now that the Cylons are back, however is a different subject. And Starbuck was preoccupied, she had resounded herself to a married life. No time to make trouble for the likes of Baltar or lead political and social rebellion.

Well it was Tigh who took the major power trip, Adam dissolved a supposed indepedent tribunal though. Still I think he would do whatever is necessary to the future of the colonies. If not him then Apollo who has continually shown that he will do the right thing in his mind no matter who it betrays (father) or how far it goes (murder). Yeah, but Anders played rebel for months on end. I doubt he'd be objective to the idea of teaming up with starbuck to kick arse. :D

I'm gonna strongly agree with most of this. Roslin's character has been depicted as deteriorating for some time, and I don't mean her health. I think that cancer is a subtle commentary on the content of her character (or maybe any politician). Remember who gave the suggestion to kill Lilly Kane... oh yes, the school teacher. Don't get me wrong, it definitely seemed like it was going to be needed, but where did the school teacher get her Tony Soprano mask?

Could be that because her conscious has gone with Billy's death, she is losing the plot a little, along with the stress of dying and such. :) She practically wants to kill someone in every episode now, the priests, the baby, the mother. I guess the idea is to make a 'facist murderer' in the form of a woman as the twist, as if you'd be the least to expect it. Everyone seems to just go along for the ride, rarely see questions of Roslin's motives and such which is maybe Moore's point and how such people get into power. Agreed, I have to admit some of the character changes seem a little radical at times. One minute Starbuck and Apollo are secretly in love, the next seeing other people and hating each other. I guess its a lot of story to tell in a short amount of time so things are compressed a little. Not complaining though, at least there is development. Some shows go on for 6 seasons without a single character development or evolution of relationships.

It was clearly shown with the scenes involving the Chief that there was some social issues in labor disputes. I think political turmoil would eventually have followed. Am I blaming Baltar for that, not totally, that's just how politics are. But his playboy lifestyle and feigned indifference towards the social situations suggests something that, both Adama and Roslin seemed to elude to before.

I initially had this feeling as well, but I'm starting to wonder if their plans aren't starting to get away from them. Still I believe there is quite a bit we don't know about the inner workings of the Cylon empire... heck we don't even know who all twelve human models are.

Those same issues were present beforehand though it has to be said, the prisoners who didn't want to work (btw, what happened to Zareck don't think we saw him) and ships/people refusing to resupply. Now they have to create a town/city from scratch on their own backs which takes a lot of hard work. In general the public sector is not held accountable for the economy/companies/people who create and build things, they just approve it. So I'd expect the people themselves to realise they are living in bumsville and start building proper homes.

I think the plan IS to add chaos to their empire, everyone acting the same, doing the same things, everything being predictable and sterile is probably not working for them. Who number 1 is; is of course the main interest. :) I really hope its not one of the main characters again, but they wouldn't keep it secret if it wasn't and I think they have wanted to hint and play with the idea for all the main characters. Adama and Tigh wouldn't make sense as they have had flashbacks (unless they were replaced like for like), same with Apollo and Starbuck. Gaeter (how is this spelled?) is the silent type so therefore one to watch out for, plus he designed the cylon link for Sharon and has no backstory and little interaction. Plus a lot of other subtle and convenient things that fits. Baltar I can't see it being for multiple reasons as discussed (the spine/sex thing being an obvious one). Dualla doesn't seem prominent enough. The chief was tested and cleared.

[deathshead2]

Dooood, that last 15 minutes of the season finale BLEW MY MIND. I LOVE bleak visions of the future where there are GARBAGE CAN FIRES warming the masses ... it's just not a bleak future without a good old-fashioned hobo garbage can fire. That was some good s***. Those writers are earning their MF'ing keep! EW Ranked Battlestar as its #1 must-see show. Too bad it wasn't on HBO or Showtime where tons of people would watch it. Sci Fi is pretty nichey.:( If it was on HBO or showtime I would never get to watch it. NOOOOO

[Darthphere]

can I say that the Trojan Horse theory sounds like the coolest freiken thing EVER.

And a response to someone who said: the fleet is essentially depopulated right now and is operating on skeleton crews.

You want to hear a very BSG2000 thing to do. What if this 'invasion' by the cylons is the first step in some sort of cylon civil war. And as a result, wouldn't it be interesting if Galactica and Fleet allied with a rebel Cylon faction... and get themselves a crew. Wouldn't that be a creepy twist?



Its possible I can see D'Anna and some other opposing the Cylon Peace Movement espacially after being killed by Caprica 6. Cool idea.

[Superfreak]

Gaeter (how is this spelled?) is the silent type so therefore one to watch out for, plus he designed the cylon link for Sharon and has no backstory and little interaction. Plus a lot of other subtle and convenient things that fits. Baltar I can't see it being for multiple reasons as discussed (the spine/sex thing being an obvious one). Dualla doesn't seem prominent enough. The chief was tested and cleared.

Geata, I don't think he designed the link for Sharon. Remember that all Sharon needed to do in the blackbird episode was shove a fiber optic cable into her forarm. So he didn't create the link, he just has the computer know how to understand what is happening.

[Marc]

Geata, I don't think he designed the link for Sharon. Remember that all Sharon needed to do in the blackbird episode was shove a fiber optic cable into her forarm. So he didn't create the link, he just has the computer know how to understand what is happening.

When they go back to Caprica however he briefs the pilots on how he had managed to link sharon to the ships to allow them to jump as far as the Cylon raider could. Could just be smart but I think he is the most obvious/logical choice.:confused:

[Superfreak]

When they go back to Caprica however he briefs the pilots on how he had managed to link sharon to the ships to allow them to jump as far as the Cylon raider could. Could just be smart but I think he is the most obvious/logical choice.:confused:

the obstacle that they overcame, as gaeta put it in the episode, was not the fact that they could physically intergrate their systems with cylon systems (we already knew they could do that with the cylon raider). The obstacle they had overcome was getting Sharon2 to cooperate and plot the longrange course for them.

[Darthphere]

I find it odd that im actually anticipating the reveal of what happened between Starbuck and Apollo than anything else. Last time we saw them together, Starbuck was practically bangin Anders in his face so....

[Angry Sentinel]

And I hope you saw the episode "Scar." We've already discussed it's similarity's with other shows (Space: Above and Beyond) - but the way Starbuck and Kat play off one another reminded me of Isamu and Guld from Macross Plus.

October cannot get here fast enough. Remembers Max and his female rival Zentrati pilot(forgot name). They were both good and sought to take each other down. Not the same as Isamu and Guld, but the idea of "Scar" reminded me of those two.

There are just so many! :up:

[Angry Sentinel]

Agreed, I have to admit some of the character changes seem a little radical at times. One minute Starbuck and Apollo are secretly in love, the next seeing other people and hating each other. I guess its a lot of story to tell in a short amount of time so things are compressed a little. Not complaining though, at least there is development. Some shows go on for 6 seasons without a single character development or evolution of relationships.
Good points.. I am not complaining either. Just because we don't see why they do or don't like each other doesn't mean we need to be shown every detail. I like that they skip around from moment to moment. This always leaves room for great flashback sequences later on. I actually get Roslin's transformation (I was just being sarcastic earlier). Between her sickness, her career(suddenly being thrust into this powerful role), and losing Billy, I wholeheartedly see how she is/was decending into darkness. But I think that her political carreer was the real point of this decent. As made evident by showing her going back to being the "good school teacher" on New Caprica. I really think the writers were making commentary on Politicians or the power they are responsible for.

Those same issues were present beforehand though it has to be said, the prisoners who didn't want to work (btw, what happened to Zareck don't think we saw him) and ships/people refusing to resupply. Now they have to create a town/city from scratch on their own backs which takes a lot of hard work. In general the public sector is not held accountable for the economy/companies/people who create and build things, they just approve it. So I'd expect the people themselves to realise they are living in bumsville and start building proper homes. Again, I am not blaming these social issues on government, or administrations, or business. I do think they play a part in social decline (the age old arguement of whose responsible.), but ultimately it is up to people to be responsible for the way Industry, society, and government is run (IMO). But, I believe it is a fact that Roslin seemed to at least care about these situations and the people who are involved in them (even if she did make some questionable calls, that just seems to be the way it goes with power). Where as Baltar just cares about making these problems go away... not for the good of the people, but so that he doesn't have to be bothered. He is constantly looking out for himself and his own interests first, it's just the nature of the universe that good things still come from this sometimes.

My personal opinion on choosing a leader is that the leader should be chosen by their decision making ability. The ability to make the "right" call, is not determined by who's right and who's wrong, but by what the true will of the people who have intrusted you with the power would desire. Baltar will NEVER do this. He may come up with the "right" solution but it won't be because he was trying to do the will of the people. IMO, most of the time it will be the wrong call.

[Superfreak]

And I hope you saw the episode "Scar." We've already discussed it's similarity's with other shows (Space: Above and Beyond) - but the way Starbuck and Kat play off one another reminded me of Isamu and Guld from Macross Plus.

October cannot get here fast enough.

yeah, but even though the SAAB comparison is there, the original macross saga comparison is so much more relevant because the Macross saga story parralelles BSG2000 in almost every way (including the obsessive ace, and the enemy ace, going head to head, just like in SAAB).

Max Stirling fought Myria Purina a number of times in space, but Myria could never win. So she got micronized, and infiltrated the macross to assasinate Max. But she didn't know what he looked like because he was always concealled in the belly of a valkyrie. It's funny, she didn't know who Max was, but one night while wandering around the macross on her inflitration mission, she happened to challange max to a video game, and realized over the the duration of the game who he was. They ended up in a duel in a nearby park, where max beats her, and then they get married (which was a rather wierd and quick twist)

[Bastila]

The episode on Sky (Uk) was the one where Cain and there ship was found and what a epsiode i loved it so good and Cain was such a great character hope she stays, it was good to see the tension between each ship and there characters.

[Evelisse]

:eek: Bastila

[Superfreak]

:eek: Bastila


mwaha:D :D :D

it's kind of funny


anyhow, I hope he enjoys it

[Bastila]

:eek: Bastila

Ok.....So have you guys seen all over season two, please tell me Cain stays on and doesn't die or go off, she's great.

mwaha


it's kind of funny

anyhow, I hope he enjoys it


Ermm if you talking about me i'm female.

[LadyVader]

What's so great about her?

[Bastila]

What's so great about her?

I just think she's a really nasty person in a way with what shes doing and everyone doesn't like her and the fact that she has a higher rank then Amdna (spelling) as well and people are scared of her a bit and i liked the stroy the guy said about her killing that guy because he didn't follow her orders, and i really liked the ending when Galactica firing their vipers and she was like 'what are you doing' and she did the same it was like great tenison and i like them kind of characters as well.

[Superfreak]

Don't worry Bastila, Caine doesn't die til the season finale, so you get to enjoy here for about 10 more episodes

[Bastila]

Don't worry Bastila, Caine doesn't die til the season finale, so you get to enjoy here for about 10 more episodes

Really well thats cool, i can't belivie they kill her off oh well, at least we get to see her for 10 episodes then.

[Darthphere]

Really well thats cool, i can't belivie they kill her off oh well, at least we get to see her for 10 episodes then.


I dont think she was on for that long actually.....

[Superfreak]

I dont think she was on for that long actually.....

yeah, it was more like 9 episodes

[Bastila]

Well 9 or 10 i don't care as long as shes in it for a while.

[Arsh]

Anyone know if a complete Season 2 DVD Box Set (all 20 eps) will be released and when?

The Season Finale rocked my socks. ****ing brilliant.

[Darthphere]

Anyone know if a complete Season 2 DVD Box Set (all 20 eps) will be released and when?

The Season Finale rocked my socks. ****ing brilliant.


Ill assume sometime this summer.

[Superfreak]

Ill assume sometime this summer.

I suspect a late summer/early fall release for the Season 2 DVD set. I figure, if season 3 is starting in october, then getting the DVD out about a month before the premier would be a sound release schedual.

[Darthphere]

I suspect a late summer/early fall release for the Season 2 DVD set. I figure, if season 3 is starting in october, then getting the DVD out about a month before the premier would be a sound release schedual.


Word, I wonder if theyll call it season 2.5 since it would be a disservice to the people who bought 2.0 to only have it as a whole set.

[huskerwebhead]

I feel a little sad that I don't get to come here and talk about what happened on the show this weekend. :( Damn it....October is too far away.

[Superfreak]

I feel a little sad that I don't get to come here and talk about what happened on the show this weekend. :( Damn it....October is too far away.

diddo, it's barely the 3rd month of the year, and we have to wait til the 2nd last month of the year for the conclusion. This is worse than the season 1 finally, and the Pegasus cliffhanger.

I almost envy those in Canada now who are getting all 20 episodes back to back every week.

[Cap1970]

[quote=Superfreak]yeah, but even though the SAAB comparison is there, the original macross saga comparison is so much more relevant because the Macross saga story parralelles BSG2000 in almost every way (including the obsessive ace, and the enemy ace, going head to head, just like in SAAB).quote]

Too true. The more I watch BSG2000, the more the parallels are there.

[Bastila]

Don't worry Bastila, Caine doesn't die til the season finale, so you get to enjoy here for about 10 more episodes


Haha very funny, i saw her die tonight dam it lol, well you did have me going, untill some nice person on here pm me and told me the truth lol, good joke though im not borthered you evil person lol

[Superfreak]

Haha very funny, i saw her die tonight dam it lol, well you did have me going, untill some nice person on here pm me and told me the truth lol, good joke though im not borthered you evil person lol

truth: I just didn't want the suprise to be ruined for you by other people on the board(DP, you know I'm talking about you, you shouldn't ruin it for other peops), and I had fun while doing it

[Darthphere]

In case you guys didnt know, you can watch the final minutes of the season finale on scifi.com/battlestar

[Bastila]

Has anyone got any good BSG desktops the ones i've seen are old and i was wounding if anyone had some or could make some.

[Darthphere]

Has anyone got any good BSG desktops the ones i've seen are old and i was wounding if anyone had some or could make some.


Im sure there fan sites out there. Ill look into it.:up:

[Superfreak]

from Gateworld.net: Season Premier Spoilers, Beware


NEWS & SPOILERS

Actress Lucy Lawless (D'Anna Biers, the Cylon who posed as a Colonial film maker in Season Two's "Final Cut") joins the cast for a 10-episode arc in Season Three, starting with the long-awaited season premiere!

D'Anna Biers (Lucy Lawless) enters an Oracles tent to visit Selloi Dedona, a frail old woman who is not well. She knows who D'Anna is, and what she is -- a Cylon, "Number Three." But D'Anna herself is not sure why she has come here. The Oracle chews on a handful of chamalla leaves (the planet from which the drug that Laura Roslin once took comes).
Meanwhile, inside the Cylon Planning Ministry, Ellen Tigh is "frakking" an unknown partner. Elsewhere, Tyrol and Anders are a part of a new human resistance movement on New Caprica. They plant a bomb, and attempt to remote detonate it when a Cylon heavy cruiser filled with humanoid Cylons draws near. The device fails at first but later detonates, giving the resistance a much-needed victory.

Laura Roslin remains a school teacher on the planet's surface. Inside her school, she and her former assistant Tory examine several hastily-taken photographs, trying to identify the members of a police force -- possibly humans who are now collaborating with the Cylon occupiers. They await the return of Adama and the Battlestar Galactica.

Saul Tigh, meanwhile, is being held against his will in a Cylon detention facility. Brother Cavil is there, and indicates to him that Tigh may be there a while.

Back in the Oracle's tent, Selloi tells D'Anna that the Cylon has lost her faith -- she not only does not believe in the Colonial pantheon, but not in her own god either. She knows about the dreams that D'Anna has been having, and claims that she is a messenger from God -- just as her dreams are. D'Anna shares the same flaw as the legendary Medusa, she says, and it will lead to her downfall.

Selloi delivers her message to the Cylon: The hybrid child of Sharon Valerii and Karl Agathon is alive. Her name is Hera, and she is alive.

[Darthphere]

Cool spoilers.

[huskerwebhead]

OK, I'm ready for this to come back...dammit! :mad:

[chosen1]

Hey guys I have to say I'm not a fan of anything that is Sci Fi but I just started watching this show and it is awesome (I know I'm late right) For you veterans i have a question who is the kid that was with starbuck in one scene during the first season ep 6 or 7 she high fived him for giving the XO Tye slack and the XO asked him where his mommy was. Is the kid related to Starbuck?

[Darthphere]

Hey guys I have to say I'm not a fan of anything that is Sci Fi but I just started watching this show and it is awesome (I know I'm late right) For you veterans i have a question who is the kid that was with starbuck in one scene during the first season ep 6 or 7 she high fived him for giving the XO Tye slack and the XO asked him where his mommy was. Is the kid related to Starbuck?


No, I call him Random Kid.

[huskerwebhead]

I thought they actually said his name was Boxey or something....like the kid from the original series. But we never saw him past that episode. So I don't know if they just threw him in there as a "cameo" or just so they could use him later on.

[Darthphere]

I thought they actually said his name was Boxey or something....like the kid from the original series. But we never saw him past that episode. So I don't know if they just threw him in there as a "cameo" or just so they could use him later on.


I killed him.

[huskerwebhead]

Good, that means we never have to suffer through that horrible Muffin...or whatever that Dog/robot thing was called.

[Superfreak]

I thought they actually said his name was Boxey or something....like the kid from the original series. But we never saw him past that episode. So I don't know if they just threw him in there as a "cameo" or just so they could use him later on.


that was Boxey. He was the son of the Armistice Station Officer (from the Mini Series). Boxey was rescued from Caprica by Boomer/Sharon1/Cylon, where he was seperated from his mother, because Sharon would only take children, and those who won a quick lottery. Baltar was rescued in the same mission when Helo gave up his ride back to galactica.

He was then adopted, or that's what it seemed like, by Sharon1. He had a few appearances here and there. But the character just dissappeared, as stated before.

It would be really nice to see him again next season, and would have been really nice to see him in Rosalin's school in the season 2 finale. The dynamic between Boxey and Sharon would have been really interesting to watch, especially since she proved to be a cylon in the end.

[Darthphere]

that was Boxey. He was the son of the Armistice Station Officer (from the Mini Series). Boxey was rescued from Caprica by Boomer/Sharon1/Cylon, where he was seperated from his mother, because Sharon would only take children, and those who won a quick lottery. Baltar was rescued in the same mission when Helo gave up his ride back to galactica.

He was then adopted, or that's what it seemed like, by Sharon1. He had a few appearances here and there. But the character just dissappeared, as stated before.

It would be really nice to see him again next season, and would have been really nice to see him in Rosalin's school in the season 2 finale. The dynamic between Boxey and Sharon would have been really interesting to watch, especially since she proved to be a cylon in the end.


No I killed him and his damn dog too.

[chosen1]

Hey galactica Fans. I've got a question I'm looking for the name of the theme song used in the premier of the second season when Baltar and the blonde cylon were looking at the child in the crib in one of his daydreams. It was a nicely tuned violin played beat

Please help thanx

[Darthphere]

Hey galactica Fans. I've got a question I'm looking for the name of the theme song used in the premier of the second season when Baltar and the blonde cylon were looking at the child in the crib in one of his daydreams. It was a nicely tuned violin played beat

Please help thanx


Ill find out for you.



Vote Calvin.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229187&page=15

[chosen1]

any luck?:)

[Darthphere]

any luck?:)


Sorry no. Ill keep looking though.

[Superfreak]

it's on the season one score, 'the shape of things to come'

[chosen1]

it's on the season one score, 'the shape of things to come'

Sup-a-Freak Sup-a-Freak :D

You da man!

Or woman if your female :D

[Philly Phanboy]

that was Boxey. He was the son of the Armistice Station Officer (from the Mini Series). Boxey was rescued from Caprica by Boomer/Sharon1/Cylon, where he was seperated from his mother, because Sharon would only take children, and those who won a quick lottery. Baltar was rescued in the same mission when Helo gave up his ride back to galactica.

He was then adopted, or that's what it seemed like, by Sharon1. He had a few appearances here and there. But the character just dissappeared, as stated before.
It would be really nice to see him again next season, and would have been really nice to see him in Rosalin's school in the season 2 finale. The dynamic between Boxey and Sharon would have been really interesting to watch, especially since she proved to be a cylon in the end.

Check out the Season 1 DVD set.

There are a few deleted scenes with the Boxey character, but it seems the character was edited out of early season 1 episodes and then dropped entirely.

[chosen1]

Kat's Hot:)

[Philly Phanboy]

Kat's Hot:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Target-33/Temp/BSGActressesatConvention.jpg

:up:

Luciana looks better with straight hair. Her IMDb picture makes her look like a poodle. :(

[chosen1]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Target-33/Temp/BSGActressesatConvention.jpg

:up:

Luciana looks better with straight hair. Her IMDb picture makes her look like a poodle. :(

where did you get this picture??

[Philly Phanboy]

where did you get this picture??

Ummmm...Google.

It was one of the BSG photos available from a sci-fi convention and then I just added the actress/character names.

[chosen1]

I can't wait for this series to start up again :)

[Darthphere]

You and me both.

[LadyVader]

Can't believe Starbuck got married. :)

[Darthphere]

Can't believe Starbuck got married. :)


To that schmuck.

[LadyVader]

He was cute... not as cute as Lee, but still. I just don't see why she would marry him or anybody for that matter. I know this show has virtually no conection to the old show, but really.. Starbuck, married?
Having trouble dealing with it. For what it's worth, he looks like a dead man walking.

[Darthphere]

I never liked Anders and never bought that he was Starbucks love of her life.


Ha-ha, Lee got fat.

[chosen1]

To that schmuck.


LoL

[LadyVader]

It's the uniform! It makes him look puffy. :)

[Darthphere]

It's the uniform! It makes him look puffy. :)


And gives him an extra chin?

[chosen1]

He seems pretty cool to me he was cool to lee when he first met him

[LadyVader]

well, you have to be cool to survive on a radioactive planet.
Literally. :)

[huskerwebhead]

HA! Front page for Battlestar again! :) October is so far away. :(

[Darthphere]

He seems pretty cool to me he was cool to lee when he first met him


You mean when Starbuck and him were lieterally boning each other in front of him? real cool.

[huskerwebhead]

You mean when Starbuck and him were lieterally boning each other in front of him? real cool.

Unless his johnson was able to poke a hole through his and her pants I don't think they were "literally" boning each other. But yeah, that was pretty screwed up. No pun intended.

[Darthphere]

Unless his johnson was able to poke a hole through his and her pants I don't think they were "literally" boning each other. But yeah, that was pretty screwed up. No pun intended.


Stop lying, the pun was intended. All I know is Lee better lay off the burgers, Starbuck needs to cut her hair and Adama needs to shave the stache.

[chosen1]

well, you have to be cool to survive on a radioactive planet.
Literally. :)

Good Point :up:

[chosen1]

You mean when Starbuck and him were lieterally boning each other in front of him? real cool.

1. He shook his hand

2. offered him a drink

seemed friendly how could he know that lee had feelings for her ( not saying he does in that way)

[Darthphere]

1. He shook his hand

2. offered him a drink

seemed friendly how could he know that lee had feelings for her ( not saying he does in that way)


He did this all while he was dry humpin Starbuck though.

[Darthphere]

Hey guys, someone wanted to say hi!

http://nevstory.com/Filmspic/battlest2.jpg

[chosen1]

Who's that?

[Superfreak]

long live the dirty sanchez moustache

[huskerwebhead]

Hey guys, someone wanted to say hi!

http://nevstory.com/Filmspic/battlest2.jpg

DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Donnie Darko]

Adama needs to shave the stache.

you shut up and you die

[chosen1]

october is too far away

[Bastila]

Wow season 2 final justed showed in the UK wow one year later i knew they should have not stayed there i kept saying all through it that the Cylons are going to jump out on them and they did.
Balta let it happen it was Adama, Roslin or Cain (alive tohugh), they would have stopped it but they couldn't and why did Rolin give in to cheater in the poll i wouldn't have.

I liked it that Balta and six saw each other his so going to get done for being a trator lol. he deserves it.

And oh my god Lee got fat a bit he looks so bad like that.

I want season 3 to hurry up so much.

[LadyVader]

It's... Balthar.
And Lee isn't fat! THE UNIFORM IS PUFFY!














Okay he's fat but that's alright. I like a little meat on my man. :D

[Bastila]

lol i think they added some stuff in his uniform to make him look like that but his face shape had changed, he best go back to his noraml self.

[LadyVader]

I remember that episode where Xena was filming around Galactica and she caught Lee with only a towel on.
DAMN!
He was ripped! :) I can't imagine how somebody in that good of shape could fall out of shape so fast.

[Bastila]

I remember that episode where Xena was filming around Galactica and she caught Lee with only a towel on.
DAMN!
He was ripped! :) I can't imagine how somebody in that good of shape could fall out of shape so fast.

me to he looked so hot, i should try to find a picture of him so fine lol.

I was reading on the sci fi borads and lots of people think that Pegasus should have like a mini-serise about Cain and ship and how they surived and stuff. I think it would be cool and Cain was one of the best things in BSG so i would love to see more really. And i thought it was a cool idea.

[LadyVader]

I don't know... we already have an idea of what happened to Cain. I don't think we really need episodes showing us how psycho she was, and I don't think we need episodes to make her look somehow redeemable in our eyes. She was the Anti-Adama. Her role in this series was obvious from the get-go. I'd rather they focus on the Galactica really.

[Bastila]

I just read they are doing a prequel about Caprica and how it began, but i dont think we need that but i still think its a rumour.

Also you guys have to wait to Octorber, i have to wait till like next year January even now that sucks right.

[LadyVader]

Oh shut up. I wouldn't get Galactica AT ALL if it wasn't for Odc. There's no television airing it over here, so you could just as well see the episodes in october just like me.

[Bastila]

Well i didnt know where you came from so i assumed you from US really.

[LadyVader]

Oh my god. I think I've just been insulted!



























Just kidding. :) I'm from Romania dudete :D. Check out the avatar. Once upon a time we did get Stargate SG1. Up to season 7 anyway. :(

[Bastila]

Oh my god. I think I've just been insulted!





Just kidding. :) I'm from Romania dudete :D. Check out the avatar. Once upon a time we did get Stargate SG1. Up to season 7 anyway. :(


oh yeah lol why didnt i look at you Avvy lol.

[ultimatefan]

I´m in the middle of the second season and I think this show should have as big a thread as Lost or 24 here... Hands down the most groundbreaking sci-fi series since The X-Files, in some aspects the best show on TV right now. It takes all the interesting premise elements the original show didn´t really mine and goes all way with it, dark but hopeful, brainy but heartfelt, and by being so organic it showcases how artificial and contrived pretty much all those Star Trek spin-offs were.

[Darthphere]

What do you guys think of talks of a spin-off?

[ultimatefan]

What do you guys think of talks of a spin-off?
Not too sure about it, when the creators of a great show work on a spin-off, the first show tends to lose something in the process if it´s still airing...

[Bastila]

What do you guys think of talks of a spin-off?


I dont know i think maybe they should one when BSG is actually over.

[Superfreak]

Also you guys have to wait to Octorber, i have to wait till like next year January even now that sucks right.


superfreak says: Shut Your Mouth!!!! if you don't want to wait, use the machine that you are posting in this thread with. It's what it's there for.

[Bastila]

I cant download BSG if thats what your asking?

[The Kid]

lol that's good. if ya could then the threat letters would start coming... trust me. but that was for a dif show... heh

Can someone tell me what's so great about this show that I should ever watch it ?

[ultimatefan]

lol that's good. if ya could then the threat letters would start coming... trust me. but that was for a dif show... heh

Can someone tell me what's so great about this show that I should ever watch it ?
Well, I don´t think anybody SHOULD watch anything, what works for me may not work for you, etc.

For me, what´s so great is this show breaks the mold of what sci-fi shows, especially space shows, are supposed to be. Take the naturalistic approach of something like West Wing or Sopranos and take it to space. The characters feel like very real people, it´s not about technobabble. The dramatic stakes are huge. It´s about people who lost their world, their friends and families, who´re in a desperate search for a new home, being attacked all the time, no time to rest, no back up. On top of it, the Cylons have evolved way beyond their old "toaster" look - while they still have models like that for attack - now they look and feel human enough to confuse the actual humans, even confuse themselves - some actually don´t know initially that they´re cylons. The cylons have a plan that´s not clear so far, you can´t even tell for sure how evil they actually are, even though they wiped out a planet. There´s a lot of religious undertones as well, regarding the old prophecies about finding Earth, the humans believing in multiple Gods while the cylons actually are monotheists... but it´s not an overly religious show, it´s one of many elements. Even the space CGI scenes get a different and fresh feel because they´re shot in a sort of documentary style, shaky camera, sudden closes, etc. And some characters you just can´t help loving, most of all the old man - commander Adama, brilliantly played by Edward James Olmos - and Starbuck - Katee Sackhoff is quite a found and hot, too!

[DarKush]

What do you guys think of talks of a spin-off?

I got confidence than RDM & co. can give us a good show...initially. But I would rather this "Caprica" idea be turned into a miniseries about the first Colonial-Cylon War. Give us about 6 episodes and call it a day.

To me, a Caprica series is stretching it. I want to see the war, and that's about it regarding the Colonial past. And I also think its a little too soon for BSG to go the prequel route.

The prequel should come from stuff that has reached iconic status, and that the audience can't get enough and wants to see more. BSG is hot right now, but it hasn't reached iconic status yet. If they split their writing talents at this juncture, the show might not ever reached iconic status. I would prefer that a prequel series would come around S5 or S6 when BSG has a more proven record of success and a swollen fanbase.

[Superfreak]

I cant download BSG if thats what your asking?

everybody can download, so no more complaints

[Bastila]

Well i blame my dad his done somthing to the downstairs computer which stops me from downloading torents to my laptop as i use the internet connetion from out PC, so i can complain lol.

I'm not borthered i can wait i waited for season two and without spoilers.

[Superfreak]

Well i blame my dad his done somthing to the downstairs computer which stops me from downloading torents to my laptop as i use the internet connetion from out PC, so i can complain lol.

I'm not borthered i can wait i waited for season two and without spoilers.

go to one of the gzillion torrent faq's, it'll show you how to setup everything. My brother put in a firewall a while back, and the faq's told me exactly how to adjust stuff to make everything work. The infonet man, that's what it's there for.

[chosen1]

Rewatching season one I think Mrs Tie is planing for her and her husband to go into politics.

[JLBats]

I just bought season one.

It better be good.

[chosen1]

I just bought season one.

It better be good.

You will not regret it the show is awesome and I'm am a huge protester of anything Sci Fi. But when I saw this show i was amazed they struck gold w/ the first season and in my opinion the second season was even better.

take comfort in the fact that I am not easily entertained

[chosen1]

Apollo was on celebrity poker showdown.

[chosen1]

After watching Episode 2 of the second season I am certain that Dualla and One of chiefs personnel the one w/ the yellow jack is a cylon.

[Captain Kirk]

:confused: Does anyone here know if the season 2.0 release is all of season 2? I have been hoping that all of season 2 would come out before I buy it!

[Darthphere]

:confused: Does anyone here know if the season 2.0 release is all of season 2? I have been hoping that all of season 2 would come out before I buy it!


Season 2.0 is only the first 10 episodes. Sucks i know.

[Captain Kirk]

Season 2.0 is only the first 10 episodes. Sucks i know.Yeah, I hope they give us the whole season soon. I haven't see anything past Chief and Halo being sent to the Pegasus!:(

[Darthphere]

Yeah, I hope they give us the whole season soon. I haven't see anything past Chief and Halo being sent to the Pegasus!:(


It gets even better after that.

[Superfreak]

Season 2 OST is out on June 20th

[Captain Kirk]

Season 2 OST is out on June 20th:up: thanks, for the info Superfreak!:)

[Malice]

The question I want to hear.

How long before the Pegasus gets whacked?

[Darthphere]

The question I want to hear.

How long before the Pegasus gets whacked?


5 episodes. Kidding. Though really I see it happenign pretty soon. Apollo on the Pegasus is too solitary. I miss Apollo.:(

[Malice]

Hey all, what were your thought on this last episode that occurred...a year later?

I am not sure how I thought of it.

[Bastila]

I know it's like we missed a whole lot of stuff and it's a huge jump from one situation to another.

[Darthphere]

Hey all, what were your thought on this last episode that occurred...a year later?

I am not sure how I thought of it.


I dont know, for a single episode it was ok, but its really just a huge plot device that can come back to bite them in the ass. There were already some inconsistencies plot wise, so ill have to see wht they do next season, if they pull it off than great if they dont, I think theyll be rethinking why exactly they had that done.

[JLBats]

I've just gotten to Kobol's Last Gleaming.

This season has been pretty damn good. Better than 99% of television these days.

[Darthphere]

I've just gotten to Kobol's Last Gleaming.

This season has been pretty damn good. Better than 99% of television these days.


Glad you like it.:up:

[Malice]

I dont know, for a single episode it was ok, but its really just a huge plot device that can come back to bite them in the ass. There were already some inconsistencies plot wise, so ill have to see wht they do next season, if they pull it off than great if they dont, I think theyll be rethinking why exactly they had that done.

I was really curious on where the hell they were going with this....

[Darthphere]

I was really curious on where the hell they were going with this....


As am I, so ill be there when it comes back. The thing that has bothered me was what the hell happened with the Cyclon Peace Movement?

[Malice]

As am I, so ill be there when it comes back. The thing that has bothered me was what the hell happened with the Cyclon Peace Movement?

Yeah, I think I was a little concerned at the development on this.
I can only hope they really have a brilliant solution to the pit they dug themselves in.

[Darthphere]

Yeah, I just hope they dont back themselves into a corner like LOST has done.

[Malice]

exactly

[TheCorpulent1]

What's the corner Lost is in? :confused:

[Malice]

I love the show...I am still a little concerned on the direction..
I only hope they have not dug themselves in a hole...

[Superfreak]

here's a question for you:

at the end of the season 2 finale, President Baltar is confronted by a Number 6 who says she knows Baltar very well. Which Number 6 do you think it is? Is this the 6 that died blowing herself up with the Nuke? is this Caprica 6? Or is this the 'Shelley' Number 6?

I think that will be a key question in answering what happened with the so called peace movement.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think it's his Six from the colonies, in her new body. Maybe something happened to the peace movement while the humans were in hiding.

[chosen1]

October is to frackin far away

[LadyVader]

oh, I'm holding out pretty well. I'm missing Stargate more to tell you the truth.

[War Lord]

What happened in the last half hour of the last episode?

My VCR only caught the first hour.

[Zenien]

It doesn't mean they're set on killing Humanity, they're probably trying to subjigate humanity. Obviously SOMETHING must have happene in that year... I don't really think that they've backed themselves into a corner as long as they do offer soem sort of explanation. If anything the Peace movement was the biggest sort of 'huh' moment for me. It was far too sudden...

Speaking of that what corner is lost in?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFDON5ZAaa0

Fan done Season 3 Intro.

and

BATTLESTAR GALACTICA WEB SERIES ANNOUNCED

"The most exciting news on this front involved Battlestar Galactica, which airs on the NBC Universal owned Sci Fi Channel. Debuting later this year will be a Web series spin-off for the acclaimed series called Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance. Lasting ten episodes, The Resistance will fill in the gap between season two and the upcoming season three."

Source: http://tv.ign.com/articles/709/709633p1.html

[MatchesMalone]

Just got the new BSG comic for a quarter. Amazing quality for that price. I suggest everybody picks it up. It's in-continuity with the series (the entire storyline has been approved according to AICN), and set before Pegasus in the 2nd season.

The art is serviceable, and atmospheric enough. Starbuck continues her time-honored trend of Being Able To Do Everything At Every Time. The story is actually quite a treat, and has the exact mood of the series. I'm just glad to have a nice SF comic to read - good break from the hard-boiled crime comics and the tights.

[chosen1]

Just got the new BSG comic for a quarter. Amazing quality for that price. I suggest everybody picks it up. It's in-continuity with the series (the entire storyline has been approved according to AICN), and set before Pegasus in the 2nd season.

The art is serviceable, and atmospheric enough. Starbuck continues her time-honored trend of Being Able To Do Everything At Every Time. The story is actually quite a treat, and has the exact mood of the series. I'm just glad to have a nice SF comic to read - good break from the hard-boiled crime comics and the tights.

where can u get it? 7-11?

[Darthphere]

Your local comic book shop.

[Gogo Bananas]

About the whole 'Is Baltar a cylon' thing, I've been thinking, and this here is kind of a strange idead, but bear with me.
It may be that the Six Baltar sees isn't actually there in any sense.
She may simply be a visual metaphor for the "Cylonishness" of Baltars thinking, and how he's loosing his humanity, and becoming half-cylon, at least in the psychological sense.
Same for Caprica Six - why does she have visions of Baltar? Because she's become 'humanised'. It's just an image symbolizing her developing human psyche.
I would think since the real Caprica Six was working under the directives of the Cylon Command that they would also have something to do with her popping up in his head and would probably have put her there somehow. Apparently not. It seems that the only ones who know about their visions/hallucinations/infestations, are the individual having them.

[chosen1]

About the whole 'Is Baltar a cylon' thing, I've been thinking, and this here is kind of a strange idead, but bear with me.
It may be that the Six Baltar sees isn't actually there in any sense.
She may simply be a visual metaphor for the "Cylonishness" of Baltars thinking, and how he's loosing his humanity, and becoming half-cylon, at least in the psychological sense.
Same for Caprica Six - why does she have visions of Baltar? Because she's become 'humanised'. It's just an image symbolizing her developing human psyche.
I would think since the real Caprica Six was working under the directives of the Cylon Command that they would also have something to do with her popping up in his head and would probably have put her there somehow. Apparently not. It seems that the only ones who know about their visions/hallucinations/infestations, are the individual having them.

Not a bad theory.

I happen to think you are correct:up:

[Movies205]

I just order the first season from Deepdiscountdvd.com, it shipped on friday, I hear good things :up:

[Darthphere]

You'll love it. By the way at www.scifi.com/battlestar you can watch the pisode Scar in its entirety. (Note:This is a second season episode)

[Superfreak]

I just order the first season from Deepdiscountdvd.com, it shipped on friday, I hear good things :up:


enjoy, once you get to about episode 3, you're addicted, and epi 10 seals the deal

[JLBats]

Yeah, it took me to Bastille Day to really fall in love with it.

[Superfreak]

Yeah, it took me to Bastille Day to really fall in love with it.


Hand of God really locked on me. I was getting a little bored with first season, then they pulled out all the stops. I love that epi. You get the beginning of the cool religious stuff, serious political tensions growing, and some kickass... and WTF, some bagpipes and moonshine to go along with it.

By far the best epi of the series IMO.

[Darthphere]

The mini hooked me form the get go.

[Superfreak]

loved the mini, but I always got a little bored when Adama takes a vacation with the cylon in the bowls of the Ragnar Anchorage. I swear they walk around down there for the whole miniseries.

[Darthphere]

LOL! Nah, it wasnt that long. I saw that it had potential, I think at the time they didnt think it was going to be a series, but I knew I wanted more.

[Superfreak]

oh yeah, totally. The thing about the miniseries that bothered me was that I was getting this babylon 5 vibe. The sets and production value has been vastly increased since the mini. It feels more natural now.


But you're right, it oozed with potential. Funny how long it took the series to percipitate after the mini aired.

[Gogo Bananas]

They had me at 'Hello".
Course, I remember seeing the original in the theater and on tv so I was kinda prejudiced.

[Movies205]

I'm a big fan of sci-fi, I was kind of sadden that I didn't tap into Farscape till the last season and I absolutely loved Peace-Keeper wars. Anyway I anxiously await BSG along with Samurai Jack Seasons 1 and 2, and NEon Genesis Evangelion full set. So has anyone seen teh original BSG, I hear most fans hate the new show cuz of some changes such as one of the characters being a woman now.

[Darthphere]

Ive seen it and its cheesy as hell but I can see the appeal. Yeah Starbuck is a woman now and Boomer a chick on the new show, was a black guy on the original.

[Gogo Bananas]

Boomer was a fat dude, and Tigh was black. Tigh was actually sort of comic relief. 'Fire in Space' remains one of the best episodes of either series.

[Darthphere]

Boomer was a fat dude, and Tigh was black. Tigh was actually sort of comic relief. 'Fire in Space' remains one of the best episodes of either series.


You have it the other way around friend.

[Gogo Bananas]

Right, right.Boomer and Tigh were both black.
What was the name of the fat pilot???

Nevermind, I'll answer my own question.
JOLLY!

I think...

[chosen1]

Has any1 noticed how hot the Girl is who adopted the half toaster baby.

[Gogo Bananas]

Yeah, I noticed her right off the bat. I'm pretty good at picking up on that sorta thing.
She looks really familiar for some reason.

[chosen1]

Yeah, I noticed her right off the bat. I'm pretty good at picking up on that sorta thing.
She looks really familiar for some reason.

Erica Cerra (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1569714/):up:

Cant find any pics.....

[Gogo Bananas]

Wow, yeah - she's done a lot of stuff I woulda seen her in - Smallville, Dead Like Me, Blade III.
One thing the new series really is missing are MORE HOTTIES.
We need Cassiopia and Athena!!!
They really shoulda made Apollo's hooker hoochie Cassiopia - a complete reversal from her deal with Starbuck in the OS.

[Speedball]

Wow, yeah - she's done a lot of stuff I woulda seen her in - Smallville, Dead Like Me, Blade III.
One thing the new series really is missing are MORE HOTTIES.
We need Cassiopia and Athena!!!
They really shoulda made Apollo's hooker hoochie Cassiopia - a complete reversal from her deal with Starbuck in the OS.
I thought that she may have been Sheba.
I wanna see Selena in the show. she should end up with...
Well she should have ended up with Billy, but that won't happen now.

[Gogo Bananas]

Billy gives me a rash. I hope to God he gets taken out soon. Maybe he can get all stalkerish with Dualla and Apollo can bust an explosive round in his ass.

[LadyVader]

Shut up Gogo. Just shut up. :mad:

[Gogo Bananas]

Seriously, there's enough whining on Galactica that we can do without Billy.
Show him the airlock!
'Sides, he's probably a cylon anyhow, so better to be safe than sorry!

[chosen1]

Seriously, there's enough whining on Galactica that we can do without Billy.
Show him the airlock!
'Sides, he's probably a cylon anyhow, so better to be safe than sorry!.

I take it you guys have not seen season two.

[Gogo Bananas]

Good grief - of course I've seen season 2...he was just as bad then. Worse even. Is there something in S2 that makes you think he wasn't annoying?
Dualla is dang attractive. I dunno what she ever saw in that milksop.
Lee? He's a hunka, hunka burnin' love.

[Darthphere]

LOL! If you guys only knew.

[Spidey Rules 2]

Good grief - of course I've seen season 2...he was just as bad then. Worse even. Is there something in S2 that makes you think he wasn't annoying?

Yes

[Superfreak]

Good grief - of course I've seen season 2...he was just as bad then. Worse even. Is there something in S2 that makes you think he wasn't annoying?
Dualla is dang attractive. I dunno what she ever saw in that milksop.
Lee? He's a hunka, hunka burnin' love.


No you haven't, otherwise you wouldn't have posted this

I hope to God he gets taken out soon. Maybe he can get all stalkerish with Dualla and Apollo can bust an explosive round in his ass.

[Gogo Bananas]

Name an instance of Billy not being a sap.

Here's something else I've been thinking about.
The human ship designs are predominantly straight lines. There's a few curves here and there, but over all, straight and angular.
The Cylon ship designs are all curved.
You would think a robotic race like the Cylons would have an affinity for straight lines and angles.

[Darthphere]

Name an instance of Billy not being a sap.

Here's something else I've been thinking about.
The human ship designs are predominantly straight lines. There's a few curves here and there, but over all, straight and angular.
The Cylon ship designs are all curved.
You would think a robotic race like the Cylons would have an affinity for straight lines and angles.


You havent watched all of Season 2 my friend.

[LadyVader]

And you better eat your words after you do.

[MatchesMalone]

Billy died, and Vader cried.

[Superfreak]

sucker probably saw the season 2.1 DVD, and didn't realize that there's a second half to the season lol

[chosen1]

well i did'nt want to spoil it but as my friend who backed me up posted yes billy did die in an act of heroism.

I don't think he was that bad I liked him.

He just was'nt a soldier.

[Superfreak]

well i did'nt want to spoil it but as my friend who backed me up posted yes billy did die in an act of heroism.

I don't think he was that bad I liked him.

He just was'nt a soldier.

yeah, I was trying to avoid that too... then matches comes out and just spills the beans... very Larry King of him.

anyhow, anybody got any good rumors. I went to gateworld, but it doesn't look like the BSG page has been updated in a long time.

[Darthphere]

In this weeks EW, the 3 cylon women Boomer, Six, and D'Anna said that one of them is going to die...permanently.

[Superfreak]

Wow, yeah - she's done a lot of stuff I woulda seen her in - Smallville, Dead Like Me, Blade III.
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what you'll notice, is that alot of the actors on Smallville, Stargate Atlantis, Stargate SG-1 and Battlestar Galactica rotate around alot. They're all shot on the same lot in Vancouver. So when shows need a solid actor, they seem to recruit from the local pool. I know there has been a lot of sharing of actors between BSG and Stargate. Geata was on SG1, so was that annoying deck hand kid (the guy who is essentially Cally's male counterpart, he was in the shootout with apollo when the cylons boarded at the beginning of season 2).

It's kind of interesting to watch sometimes. A buddy of mine in van. says he's seen a number of cool props out in the lot sometimes. He says he saw a viper at some point, and the stargate. Kind of nice when it's slightly close to home.

[Superfreak]

In this weeks EW, the 3 cylon women Boomer, Six, and D'Anna said that one of them is going to die...permanently.

does that mean a single copy dies permanently? or an entire set of copies? Because they've pretty much made the cylons, so that how ever many you kill, you still have teh same actors playing them (good technique to save the cold hard $$$, they don't really ever have to hire new actors to play villains, cylon villains anyway, all they need is 12)

[Darthphere]

The entire set.

[Superfreak]

The entire set.

ooooh, that's cool, I wonder how they'll do it. Will it be some sort of virus, or more of an extermination?

It'd be kind of interesting if 1 dying cylon, tried to download into as many blanks as she/he could... resulting in multiple copies of the same cylon personality. That'd be interesting too.

[War Lord]

ooooh, that's cool, I wonder how they'll do it. Will it be some sort of virus, or more of an extermination?

It'd be kind of interesting if 1 dying cylon, tried to download into as many blanks as she/he could... resulting in multiple copies of the same cylon personality. That'd be interesting too.

Extermination.

They put their programming and memories into cold storage.

[Superfreak]

so the question is, why?

I'd bet on the sharon model being exterminated, seems to be the most troublesome to the cylons. But it'll probably be Xena, since the other 2 are staples of the series.

[Gogo Bananas]

Yeah, if you're talking about Sacrifice - he went out like a *****. And lets not forget that episode kicked off with an all new high for his whining.
But yeah, I did forget he's already dead - just because the character is so useless - he's just a means of exposition for Roslyn.