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Darthphere
10-10-2006, 10:38 AM
Although I'd like to see BSG in HD I don't think it would be a smart move to bring it onto NBC.
Me neither, it seems NBC is desperate for ratings and BSG might be a source but I kind of doubt it. Add to the fact that they wouldnt be able to get away with as much as they do now on the show (an episode about suicide bombers on NBC? Yeah right.) But on the plus the speculated time slot would be Mondays at 10 right after Heroes.
Where did you find this info?
Darthphere
10-10-2006, 10:57 AM
Where did you find this info?
http://www.battlestargalacticasite.com/2006/10/bsg_to_nbc_can_it_survive.php
Pink Ranger
10-10-2006, 12:28 PM
Me neither, it seems NBC is desperate for ratings and BSG might be a source but I kind of doubt it. Add to the fact that they wouldnt be able to get away with as much as they do now on the show (an episode about suicide bombers on NBC? Yeah right.) But on the plus the speculated time slot would be Mondays at 10 right after Heroes.
Ye Gods, I hope this isn't true. As I wrote two pages back, network TV will kill this show.
chosen1
10-10-2006, 12:44 PM
This might not be a bad Idea. I'm always saying this show is'nt getting the reckognition it deserves. Maybe a larger audience would appreciate the show?
Right now, BSG plays to a certain crowd. Even if you're not a normal Sci-Fi viewer, chances are your tv interests are probably a little more alternative than those glued to Must See TV. I fear the masses (the "majority") will sway the direction of the show in order to satisfy the larger viewership.
I hope I'm completely wrong, but that is my concern for BSG.
Jack Phantom
10-10-2006, 02:20 PM
Crazy rumor online is that NBC will pick up BSG as a midseason replacement.
That rumor isn't exactly that far-fetched as SciFi is an NBC/Universal property...guess most knew that anyways...but that added to the fact that NBC can't seem to get a hit show these days and then the rumor isn't so crazy.
That said, it would be a horrible mistake. Trying to place the show in a format designed to carry a little of everything to please absolutely everyone will only water down a great show - resulting in cancellation within two seasons. The major networks' track record with shows like Battlestar isn't great...not even good. The show should stay put.
Superfreak
10-10-2006, 07:13 PM
if the real NBC did pick up BSG to fill a gap in their major line up, would they really start mid way through season 3? Or would they start from the beginning, splitting up the MS into tv episodes and play the thing from the beginning?
I mean, it's not like you can just dump BSG on the general (non BSG watching) public, and expect them to understand a bloody thing that is going on. I moms is getting into it, but she still has a hard time grasping the way that the cylon copies are organized (12 models, with infinite copies). And she's seen everything 'cept the s3 premier. To drop season 3 into mainstream slots would be unfair to the show, and to a potential audience who would not understand what is going on.
and on another note; Anybody think that Rosylin is gonna get all hopped up on drugs again?
Zenien
10-11-2006, 04:14 AM
I don't think the BSG season premiere would do a very good job of getting new viewers to watch the show. Since this is really the most complicated the show has ever been, and the 2 hour sequence really seemed to lack a really gripping narrative to it. I mean sure it would work well for people who are into the show, but the point of advertising the hell out of it was to get new viewers.
Anyway it apparently did a 1.8 (2.2 million viewers).
MINISERIES & SEASON 1 RATINGS
Episode title Airdate Rating
Galactica miniseries pt.1 December 8, 2003 3.2
Galactica miniseries pt.2 December 9, 2003 3.8
33/Water January 14, 2005 2.6
Bastille Day January 21, 2005 2.3
Act of Contrition January 28, 2005 2.5
You Can't Go Home Again February 4, 2005 2.5
Litmus February 11, 2005 2.5
Six Degrees of Separation February 18, 2005 2.2
Flesh and Bone February 25, 2005 2.5
Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down March 4, 2005 2.1
The Hand of God March 11, 2005 2.2
Colonial Day March 18, 2005 2.3
Kobol's Last Gleaming pt.1 March 25, 2005 2.2
Kobol's Last Gleaming pt.2 April 1, 2005 2.5
SEASON 2 RATINGS
Episode title Airdate Rating
Scattered July 15, 2005 2.6
Valley of Darkness July 22, 2005 2.0
Fragged July 29, 2005 2.0
Resistance August 5, 2005 1.9
The Farm August 12, 2005 2.0
Home pt.1 August 19, 2005 2.1
Home pt.2 August 26, 2005 2.1
The Final Cut September 9, 2005 2.0
Flight of the Phoenix September 16, 2005 1.9
Pegasus September 23, 2005 2.0
Resurrection Ship pt.1 January 6, 2006 2.1
Resurrection Ship pt.2 January 13, 2006 2.0
Epiphanies January 20, 2006 1.9
Black Market January 27, 2006 1.8
Scar February 3, 2006 1.9
Sacrifice February 10, 2006 1.8
The Captain's Hand February 17, 2006 1.7
Downloaded February 24, 2006 1.8
Lay Down Your Burdens pt.1 March 3, 2006 1.8
Lay Down Your Burdens pt.2 March 10, 2006 1.9
Season 3 Premiere (Episode 1/2 combined): 1.8
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Sources:Scifi_Neilsen_Press_Release_for_Season_3
chosen1
10-11-2006, 07:53 AM
I hope we get to see galactica enter a planet.
Bit late to the game but another great start to the season, although I hope we're not on the ground too long as its not as interesting a concept in my mind.
I don't get the planet though, they makde it seem so barren and horrible in S2 yet we see from the jumpship's aerial view and the meeting place that its a pretty decent place. Lots of tree's, flowing streams. Why would they have the camp/town away from all that? Seemed odd.
They take a helluva lot of gambles and jumps in this show, credit for that. Not really liking Baltar's direction, he always seemed to be in the grey space with intentions and motives you could accept and sorta justify. But the signing thing kinda ends that right there and then, now he's just plain bad. He could have got out of the situation surely. Point out they wouldn't be able to get another man like him, that killing him would prove the cylons can't be reasoned with, that he is seen as their staunch ally yet is not safe so why bother to ally yourself to them.
Also you have to question what is the cylons motives at this point as they really don't seem to make any logical sense. But I'm completely enthralled none the less.
Darthphere
10-11-2006, 10:09 AM
Bit late to the game but another great start to the season, although I hope we're not on the ground too long as its not as interesting a concept in my mind.
I don't get the planet though, they makde it seem so barren and horrible in S2 yet we see from the jumpship's aerial view and the meeting place that its a pretty decent place. Lots of tree's, flowing streams. Why would they have the camp/town away from all that? Seemed odd.
They take a helluva lot of gambles and jumps in this show, credit for that. Not really liking Baltar's direction, he always seemed to be in the grey space with intentions and motives you could accept and sorta justify. But the signing thing kinda ends that right there and then, now he's just plain bad. He could have got out of the situation surely. Point out they wouldn't be able to get another man like him, that killing him would prove the cylons can't be reasoned with, that he is seen as their staunch ally yet is not safe so why bother to ally yourself to them.
Also you have to question what is the cylons motives at this point as they really don't seem to make any logical sense. But I'm completely enthralled none the less.
Seems like the Cylons motive at this point is similar to the US in Iraq, were here to be your friends and allies and were going to force you to be our friends.
Seems like the Cylons motive at this point is similar to the US in Iraq, were here to be your friends and allies and were going to force you to be our friends.
Yeah, but I'm trying on purpose not to draw parallels even though that is clearly the intent with the suicide bomber stuff as mentioned. But you have to say, the Cylons aren't exactly americans in that they're well... cylons. :D
You'd think like the starbuck baby stuff wouldn't enter into a machines mind, I mean why bother... its insane by human standards let alone a logical machine. Which btw has to be staged, the kids gotta be a cylon, she just happens to crack her head while she is away and happens to wake up when starbuck prays.
Pink Ranger
10-11-2006, 12:43 PM
Bit late to the game but another great start to the season, although I hope we're not on the ground too long as its not as interesting a concept in my mind.
I don't get the planet though, they makde it seem so barren and horrible in S2 yet we see from the jumpship's aerial view and the meeting place that its a pretty decent place. Lots of tree's, flowing streams. Why would they have the camp/town away from all that? Seemed odd.
Because BSG is filmed in British Columbia, and there's no unspoiled area of BC that isn't that beautiful or even better. If they really wanted to get the "desolate wasteland" effect they should have moved production to Alberta.
Nice avvy Darth, too bad you couldn't get one of him cramming his mouth full (http://youtube.com/watch?v=avx7tuVPp6w&mode=related&search=) (right before that shot, I think).
Darthphere
10-11-2006, 01:24 PM
Nice avvy Darth, too bad you couldn't get one of him cramming his mouth full (right before that shot, I think).
I tried, the pic I found wasnt that great, I didnt make this one though.
Superfreak
10-11-2006, 01:25 PM
Yeah, but I'm trying on purpose not to draw parallels even though that is clearly the intent with the suicide bomber stuff as mentioned. But you have to say, the Cylons aren't exactly americans in that they're well... cylons. :D
You'd think like the starbuck baby stuff wouldn't enter into a machines mind, I mean why bother... its insane by human standards let alone a logical machine. Which btw has to be staged, the kids gotta be a cylon, she just happens to crack her head while she is away and happens to wake up when starbuck prays.
about Starbuck, there's a lot of conflicting evidence in both ways. 1)it could totally be staged, with KC being a cylon half breed, she could potentially be controlled in some way.
but on the other hand, we know for a fact (as far as the show is concerned) that Starbuck is special in some way. She has a seudo religious title of somesort (heir of athena or something) and she was the chosen one who retrieved the arrow of apollo and brought it to kobol. So perhaps the Gods of Kobol are listening.
right now, everything is up in the air. But atleast we know we'll be back in space in 1 or 2 episodes (as stated in one of Ron Moore's blogs, he said that in season 2, the opening arc was a little too long, and that they had decided to widdle the opening arc down to 2 or 3 episodes (4 at the most), from the 8 episodes in season 2, so fear not)
Darthphere
10-11-2006, 01:31 PM
Some promo pics from the next episode and theres a link there for episode 4.
SPOILERS UP ADAMA'S FATASS!!!
http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/gallery/0007q8ta
Superfreak
10-11-2006, 01:37 PM
I don't get the planet though, they makde it seem so barren and horrible in S2 yet we see from the jumpship's aerial view and the meeting place that its a pretty decent place. Lots of tree's, flowing streams. Why would they have the camp/town away from all that? Seemed odd.
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I can answer your question with one word really: parking
gotta remember, that the planet is habitable, it's just not a pretty planet, or one you would want to live on, given that you have earth as a potential alternative.
But why camp so far away from the nice spots: Parking. These are a space faring people, and they require somewhere flat, and stable to put their ships down in order to settle. Also, I think it's a little safer camping out in a gravel pit, rather than a forest with xeno animals and insects.
and way off in the what if answer: if they had been settled on the planet for longer, I'm sure the population would have dispersed over time, settling in different locations, nicer ones. But seeing that the cylons arrived and basically turned the whole place into a prison, that couldn't happen anymore
Darthphere
10-11-2006, 01:39 PM
The reason its barren, and Ill have to watch it again is, that only about like 20% of the planet was actually habitable I believe.
Superfreak
10-11-2006, 01:45 PM
Some promo pics from the next episode and theres a link there for episode 4.
SPOILERS UP ADAMA'S FATASS!!!
http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/gallery/0007q8ta
nice nice, so the rescue goes down this friday, can't wait. As awesome as the premier was, it lacked a little punch. Does Starbuck look prego to you in that pic where she is holding KC, or is that just her bending funny to hold KC's weight?
anybody wonder what they're gonna do with Col. Tigh's eye? I mean, are they gonna give him a generic eye patch, or are they gonna go with a cool klingon style bolt on one?
Donnie Darko
10-11-2006, 02:57 PM
I don't think it matters what kind of eyepatch it is because no matter what, it will be badass on Tigh
Pink Ranger
10-11-2006, 05:06 PM
anybody wonder what they're gonna do with Col. Tigh's eye? I mean, are they gonna give him a generic eye patch, or are they gonna go with a cool klingon style bolt on one?
Knowing Tigh, once he finds out what his wife's been doing, he'll fall off the wagon and have a beer tap installed.
Superfreak
10-11-2006, 06:12 PM
Knowing Tigh, once he finds out what his wife's been doing, he'll fall off the wagon and have a beer tap installed.
awesome
Donnie Darko
10-11-2006, 10:39 PM
Tigh kicks more ass on accident than most people do on purpose.
sorry if this is old news, but did any one notice that Lee adama aka the actor who plays him has gained alot of weight? I mean being fat does no fit the character, i mean he could bearly fit in his uniform. They had to use certain camera angels in all his scenes, it was like a young Marlon Brando was onscreen.
C. Lee
10-11-2006, 10:54 PM
sorry if this is old news, but did any one notice that Lee adama aka the actor who plays him has gained alot of weight? I mean being fat does no fit the character, i mean he could bearly fit in his uniform. They had to use certain camera angels in all his scenes, it was like a young Marlon Brando was onscreen.
The character did, not the actor. That was part of the storyline....both his father and his wife talked to him about it. They said he grown fat and soft in the year and half of no fighting...that he was a soldier and needed a war to keep going.
Oh sorry then C.Lee, I Missed parts of the premiere. so i guess Apollo is simply fallen into a depression.
Pink Ranger
10-12-2006, 12:47 PM
Oh sorry then C.Lee, I Missed parts of the premiere. so i guess Apollo is simply fallen into a depression.
And by "depression," you mean the "Make your own sundae bar at the Pegasus Buffet and Casino."
C. Lee
10-12-2006, 01:45 PM
Oh sorry then C.Lee, I Missed parts of the premiere. so i guess Apollo is simply fallen into a depression.
Yep.....although I don't know how with someone like Kandyse McClure sharing your time.
Darthphere
10-12-2006, 02:38 PM
She fugly.
chosen1
10-13-2006, 07:43 AM
She fugly.
She's hot. what are you talking about?
Substance D
10-13-2006, 07:51 AM
http://www.hytti.uku.fi/~vaisala/GALLERY/Kandyse%20McClure.jpgShe's hot. what are you talking about?
this is what he's talking about:
http://www.cs.albany.edu/~davanzo/dreamie/photo/g2001/Crispin_Freeman.jpg
seperated at birth?
chosen1
10-13-2006, 08:44 AM
LOL Omg
Superfreak
10-13-2006, 02:56 PM
its bsg night peops, whats on the menu for tonight?
Darthphere
10-13-2006, 02:57 PM
Greatness.
huskerwebhead
10-13-2006, 10:27 PM
I think it's safe to say the Pegasus won't make it through this season...and we know Apollo won't be killed off...so at some point he'll probably be back in a viper.
Great episode tonight. The s**t is going to hit the fan when Sharon finds out the her baby is still alive. And per my quote above, you heard here first...I'm betting the Pegasus goes down next week. Looks like Lee disobeys and shows up at New Caprica....and it looks like a ship gets blowed up...and that ship looked like the Pegasus to me in the preview. :)
What do you guys think Saul is going to do....man he looked pissed!!!
I can't wait for next week.
huskerwebhead
10-13-2006, 10:33 PM
I'd also recommend checking out the hidden content on the Sci-Fi website. The video is only going to be up for awhile...the code is "hera"
Superfreak
10-14-2006, 10:05 AM
Great episode tonight. The s**t is going to hit the fan when Sharon finds out the her baby is still alive. And per my quote above, you heard here first...I'm betting the Pegasus goes down next week. Looks like Lee disobeys and shows up at New Caprica....and it looks like a ship gets blowed up...and that ship looked like the Pegasus to me in the preview. :)
What do you guys think Saul is going to do....man he looked pissed!!!
I can't wait for next week.
I don't know, it doesn't look like Lee just shows up out of nowhere, it looks like the Galalctica and Pegasus show up at the same time (as per the quote from one of the sharons at the very beginning of the preview). I also think that it was a baseship exploding in the preview, not pegasus. But if it's happening next episode, I want to see pegasus ram something. Battlestars just look like their build for ramming.
TheCorpulent1
10-14-2006, 10:52 AM
Probably because they're designed a lot like penises. :up:
Saul's reaction is what I'm most looking forward to in the next episode, too. What a great conflict, to have the most black-and-white guy in the resistance have to deal with a giant dose of gray in the form of his wife's well-intentioned betrayal. Whatever happens, it'll definitely be interesting. I love that BSG is never a show with easy choices.
On a completely unrelated note, I'm very disappointed that Chief Tyrol shaved. What a waste of a phenomenally awesome beard. :(
Superfreak
10-14-2006, 11:05 AM
Probably because they're designed a lot like penises. :up:
Saul's reaction is what I'm most looking forward to in the next episode, too. What a great conflict, to have the most black-and-white guy in the resistance have to deal with a giant dose of gray in the form of his wife's well-intentioned betrayal. Whatever happens, it'll definitely be interesting. I love that BSG is never a show with easy choices.
On a completely unrelated note, I'm very disappointed that Chief Tyrol shaved. What a waste of a phenomenally awesome beard. :(
yeah, how did he have time, or awareness to shave while his wife is being held, and is on the chopping block, kind of didn't make sense.
but, I'll say that perhaps it has something to do with what the future holds for the characters. When the fleet is reassembled, and everybody is back 'home', things will probably be a little different.
Where do you think characters will end up?
I'm sure Callie will not be on the flight deck anymore.
Will Rosylin be president again? or will she become more of a social leader, with Zarek becoming the political leader?
Will tigh return to his position as Xo of galactica, or will he retire from the military side of things, given that Helo is now Xo?
What will happen to Ellen and Jammer, and other colaborators?
If pegasus is destroyed, will dualla survive (Lee has to survive, as he's a central character) but dualla is sacrificable?
or will everything just shift back to its former organization?
huskerwebhead
10-14-2006, 11:14 AM
I don't know, it doesn't look like Lee just shows up out of nowhere, it looks like the Galalctica and Pegasus show up at the same time (as per the quote from one of the sharons at the very beginning of the preview). I also think that it was a baseship exploding in the preview, not pegasus. But if it's happening next episode, I want to see pegasus ram something. Battlestars just look like their build for ramming.
I'm still betting Lee disobeys at the last second. I'm taking this from the "Dammit Lee!" that Adama growls out. :)
Superfreak
10-14-2006, 11:19 AM
I'm still betting Lee disobeys at the last second. I'm taking this from the "Dammit Lee!" that Adama growls out. :)
I think he says dammit, jump lee (it's actually Dammit Lee, JUMP)
just going through some of the blogs,
Dixon from Alias, is joining the cast as a crack pilot. Looks pretty cool, and looks like he's a civi, who get dragged back into service.
Spidey Rules 2
10-14-2006, 11:42 AM
:huh:
I'm surprised no one mentioned the large editing mistake on last night's episode. I couldn't of been the only one that noticed.
Last week, Kellie was released from her binds and told to run. When she started to run she slipped off the hill and ran. While she was running she heard the machine guns firing.
In last night's episode, when she begins running (from the Chief's POV), she doesn't slip off the side of the hill and because of this, she is now in the line of fire. Chief knocks her down, then the machine guns fire.
So what gives? I'm hoping I saw it wrong or that I missed something. This show has been great up until then. I hope they don't start getting sloppy. :cmad:
chosen1
10-14-2006, 11:57 AM
Great Episode. I think lee messes up trying to be a hero bringing pegasus into the rescue attempt and most proabably gets it destroyed.
Darthphere
10-14-2006, 12:09 PM
Probably because they're designed a lot like penises. :up:
Saul's reaction is what I'm most looking forward to in the next episode, too. What a great conflict, to have the most black-and-white guy in the resistance have to deal with a giant dose of gray in the form of his wife's well-intentioned betrayal. Whatever happens, it'll definitely be interesting. I love that BSG is never a show with easy choices.
On a completely unrelated note, I'm very disappointed that Chief Tyrol shaved. What a waste of a phenomenally awesome beard. :(
Spoilers reveal Tigh kills her.
Darthphere
10-14-2006, 12:11 PM
Great Episode. I think lee messes up trying to be a hero bringing pegasus into the rescue attempt and most proabably gets it destroyed.
Maybe, Moore and Eick have said however that the Pegasus would be around for a while.
Darthphere
10-14-2006, 12:21 PM
Promo Pics for the Episode "Torn" Spoilers as always.
http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/gallery/0008wd92
Superfreak
10-14-2006, 01:10 PM
TH is such a sexpot
Darthphere
10-14-2006, 03:21 PM
Theory: The Adama line from the preview where he goes Damnit Lee, Jump or whatever it actually was seems to have caused a lot of people to suggest a frustrated tone to it. What if its actually somehting to the extent that the Galactica was being just ****ed up, Pegasus shows up to help out, theyre getting just destroyed and Adama's line has to do more witht he fact that his son is going to be blown up on a ship rather than him being pissed Apollo ruined the plan or whatever.
Im really hoping this is the case because were suppose to believe Apollo is this badass guy but hes constantly getting his ass pwned.
Superfreak
10-14-2006, 04:01 PM
Theory: The Adama line from the preview where he goes Damnit Lee, Jump or whatever it actually was seems to have caused a lot of people to suggest a frustrated tone to it. What if its actually somehting to the extent that the Galactica was being just ****ed up, Pegasus shows up to help out, theyre getting just destroyed and Adama's line has to do more witht he fact that his son is going to be blown up on a ship rather than him being pissed Apollo ruined the plan or whatever.
Im really hoping this is the case because were suppose to believe Apollo is this badass guy but hes constantly getting his ass pwned.
sorry, could quite understand that, to many 'just's in there mess up what you are trying to say.
anyhow, I don't think Pegasus shows up out of nowhere to help out just in the nick of time, because as I stated earlier, the first quote from the preview says : "2 battlestars just arrived in orbit" so they arrive together I think.
as for the Adama line, I think that Lee will use the pegasus as a shield to defend an injured galactica, disobeying an order to retreat.
TheCorpulent1
10-14-2006, 04:08 PM
Theory: The Adama line from the preview where he goes Damnit Lee, Jump or whatever it actually was seems to have caused a lot of people to suggest a frustrated tone to it. What if its actually somehting to the extent that the Galactica was being just ****ed up, Pegasus shows up to help out, theyre getting just destroyed and Adama's line has to do more witht he fact that his son is going to be blown up on a ship rather than him being pissed Apollo ruined the plan or whatever.
Im really hoping this is the case because were suppose to believe Apollo is this badass guy but hes constantly getting his ass pwned.
I thought Starbuck was the badass and Lee was the "good soldier." Basically, if you took Captain America and split his hardcoreness from his noble, idealistic core, Starbuck would be the hardcoreness and Lee would be the noble, idealistic core. He doesn't necessarily have to be badass.
Superfreak
10-14-2006, 04:24 PM
I thought Starbuck was the badass and Lee was the "good soldier." Basically, if you took Captain America and split his hardcoreness from his noble, idealistic core, Starbuck would be the hardcoreness and Lee would be the noble, idealistic core. He doesn't necessarily have to be badass.
I wouldn't say lee is a badass, not his attitude. Starbuck is definately a badass.
But when it comes to skill, I think Lee and Starbuck are equally badass.
Substance D
10-14-2006, 06:37 PM
yeah, how did he have time, or awareness to shave while his wife is being held, and is on the chopping block, kind of didn't make sense.
gaeta or whoever left him that note.
Superfreak
10-14-2006, 06:52 PM
gaeta or whoever left him that note.
yes? and? we know that.
Zenien
10-14-2006, 08:02 PM
I won't be able to watch it until I get home from my job tonight, curses!
Pink Ranger
10-15-2006, 09:01 AM
I think Roslin's great, but she's doing a terrible job at keeping Maya/Hera a secret. I mean, she unncecessarily announces to the whole rebel cell that this baby has to be kept safe no matter what. I mean for Gods' sake, it's not like everybody can't figure it out at that point. Sharon's going to find out in like two seconds, and she's going to tear Roslin's arms off.
TheCorpulent1
10-16-2006, 02:54 AM
I think Sharon's objections will be aimed primarily at Adama, actually. He's the one who's basically built a very close relationship with her on a lie.
I wouldn't say lee is a badass, not his attitude. Starbuck is definately a badass.
But when it comes to skill, I think Lee and Starbuck are equally badass.
Exactly, Lee is the good all-around soldier. He inspires, he commands, he can get into a fight and do pretty well when the chips are down (I don't know about "equally badass" as Starbuck, though). Starbuck is the absolute best in a fight, but she's got too many personal problems that keep her from excelling in the other areas Lee does. She'll also do what it takes to win while Lee will balk at the ethical ramifications. Not to imply that there's anything wrong with either of them as soldiers--they just have different styles that work best for them.
Zenien
10-16-2006, 02:58 AM
I've found the first two episodes to be a bit of a drop off in quality, writting wise and from a directing standpoint. The show seems to have gotten much more self important, and it's really bogged down right now in its own own focuses. I hope we get back to "Incoming Cylon Raiders sir!" and Adama saying "Blow them the frak up with lots of explosions!"
And I hope we can get back to more individual focused stories. Maybe it's just because the opening act has a lot to deal with, but they feel very unfocused right now.
And they need to remove that darn "And they [the cylons] have a plan", it's bloody obvious now that the Cylons don't have a clue what they're doing. :o
TheCorpulent1
10-16-2006, 03:08 AM
I'm enjoying it more than ever, myself. The story seems pretty focused to me, given that everyone is rallying to the same cause and everything the leads are doing has the same goal in sight. I was afraid the third season would be too big a change, with half the fleet milling about New Caprica pointlessly, but it looks like they may well be off of New Caprica within two or three more episodes, and everything leading up to that escape is looking sufficiently harrowing. The space battle portions of the show were always the least interesting to me. I always got more excited for the politically or philosophically charged bits.
Superfreak
10-16-2006, 06:33 AM
I'm enjoying it more than ever, myself. The story seems pretty focused to me, given that everyone is rallying to the same cause and everything the leads are doing has the same goal in sight. I was afraid the third season would be too big a change, with half the fleet milling about New Caprica pointlessly, but it looks like they may well be off of New Caprica within two or three more episodes, and everything leading up to that escape is looking sufficiently harrowing. The space battle portions of the show were always the least interesting to me. I always got more excited for the politically or philosophically charged bits.
seems to me that they'll be off NC by friday.
But I agree with Zenian to a degree, that this first three episodes, not much has happened, as far as overall plot is concerned. Moms showed up lastnight, and started watching from Exodus part 1, and she asked me what she missed, and I was like 'pretty much nothing, just your basic vichy occupation and resistance'. But I'm looking at these first 4 episodes not as individuals, but as a single long episode. I think that they could have cut it down by one episode, but it's still good, and still far better than most other shows.
Substance D
10-16-2006, 07:11 AM
I've found the first two episodes to be a bit of a drop off in quality, writting wise and from a directing standpoint. The show seems to have gotten much more self important, and it's really bogged down right now in its own own focuses. I hope we get back to "Incoming Cylon Raiders sir!" and Adama saying "Blow them the frak up with lots of explosions!"
And I hope we can get back to more individual focused stories. Maybe it's just because the opening act has a lot to deal with, but they feel very unfocused right now.
And they need to remove that darn "And they [the cylons] have a plan", it's bloody obvious now that the Cylons don't have a clue what they're doing. :o
the show hasn't been this focused in a while. the past seasons were filled with filler episodes that had nothing to do with the cylon/human conflict. so far it's been nothing but that. if you want space opera, go watch the old show.
chosen1
10-16-2006, 02:34 PM
Cant wait till friday
hulkamania85
10-16-2006, 02:56 PM
Aside from a huge majority of the stuff that's on HBO this is probably one of the best hourlong shows on TV at the moment. I pity those that are so into stuff like LOST.
I like both, but after Season 2 of both shows I like BSG more. BSG's plot in season two moved significantly and as a result interesting things happened, but Lost seemed to be treading water for a long time and is only now starting to pick back up.
Darthphere
10-16-2006, 04:44 PM
I think Sharon's objections will be aimed primarily at Adama, actually. He's the one who's basically built a very close relationship with her on a lie.
Exactly, Lee is the good all-around soldier. He inspires, he commands, he can get into a fight and do pretty well when the chips are down (I don't know about "equally badass" as Starbuck, though). Starbuck is the absolute best in a fight, but she's got too many personal problems that keep her from excelling in the other areas Lee does. She'll also do what it takes to win while Lee will balk at the ethical ramifications. Not to imply that there's anything wrong with either of them as soldiers--they just have different styles that work best for them.
But what im saying is Lee is constantly getting ****ing pwned, its getting old. He gets shot, his Viper blows up, he gets ***** slapped by random thug #12.:csad:
TheCorpulent1
10-16-2006, 04:51 PM
Hey, he pulled off some daring piloting moves in a few episodes. "The Hand of God" comes to mind, for one. He was also fairly badass in that black market subplot from last season. I wish he'd stop getting his ass kicked too, but he's had a few moments to shine, at least.
Zenien
10-16-2006, 09:22 PM
the show hasn't been this focused in a while. the past seasons were filled with filler episodes that had nothing to do with the cylon/human conflict. so far it's been nothing but that. if you want space opera, go watch the old show.
That's not quite what I mean but I'm not explaining myself well either. Oh well. :o
Darthphere
10-17-2006, 09:27 AM
Well the shows hardly ever been "Whizz bang, boom!" action show.
chosen1
10-17-2006, 10:35 AM
Battlestar galactica needs to win an emmY
Darthphere
10-17-2006, 10:39 AM
It wont, sadly.
Donnie Darko
10-17-2006, 10:44 AM
am I the only one that thought Xena Warrior Cylon was gonna mess up some kind of message between Tyrol and Gaeta when she was petting the dog in the rebel camp? Like I thought she would turn the bowl over or something, screwing with communications.
Darthphere
10-17-2006, 10:47 AM
Nah, all I know is Lucy Lawless is looking hotter than ever.
TheCorpulent1
10-17-2006, 02:54 PM
Yeah, she's much hotter as a blonde.
Zenien
10-17-2006, 08:07 PM
Well the shows hardly ever been "Whizz bang, boom!" action show.
Let's just all accept that I can't properly articulate waht I mean and leave it at that. :csad:
TheCorpulent1
10-18-2006, 08:10 AM
Okey doke.
Zen hearts 'splosions.
chosen1
10-18-2006, 11:09 AM
Did you guys see katee sackhoff on the scream awards.
HOT! I was suprised
Darthphere
10-18-2006, 11:16 AM
Yeah shes a hottie, she seems like she'd be one of those crazy girlfirends though. :csad:
chosen1
10-19-2006, 11:04 AM
rescue is underway tomorrow
Darthphere
10-19-2006, 11:06 AM
BSG isnt doing so hot ratings wise, down from Season 1 and 2. I think it has to do with 2 things.
1. They released it during the very busy fall season where theres something to watch every night.
2. Friday isnt the greatest day in the world for a 9PM show.
Superfreak
10-19-2006, 11:07 AM
yeah, the summary at Spacecast.com (for us canucks) is something like: Galactica is being torn apart by 4 baseships, what will she do?
Superfreak
10-19-2006, 11:08 AM
BSG isnt doing so hot ratings wise, down from Season 1 and 2. I think it has to do with 2 things.
1. They released it during the very busy fall season where theres something to watch every night.
2. Friday isnt the greatest day in the world for a 9PM show.
yes, but it's always been on friday night, saturday night here. BSG is prime sunday night material IMO
chosen1
10-19-2006, 11:11 AM
Maybe they need to move to NBC?.......?
Darthphere
10-19-2006, 11:11 AM
I really dont see it doing any better on NBC.
Darthphere
10-19-2006, 11:12 AM
yes, but it's always been on friday night, saturday night here. BSG is prime sunday night material IMO
I believe it used to be on at 8 though.
chosen1
10-19-2006, 11:14 AM
I believe it used to be on at 8 though.
Nope.10
Darthphere
10-19-2006, 11:15 AM
Nope.10
Seriously? Then yeah, maybe people have ADD then, thats it. BSG has bad ratings because people have ADD.
chosen1
10-19-2006, 11:15 AM
I really dont see it doing any better on NBC.
Why? It has a larger audience. I believe when people see how well it is it will boost the ratings and sales of the first two seasons.
Darthphere
10-19-2006, 11:20 AM
Why? It has a larger audience. I believe when people see how well it is it will boost the ratings and sales of the first two seasons.
Whats stopping people from watching it on Sci-Fi? Nothing. The fact that its on sci-fi? Those same people would turn to NBC and see "Oh, a sci-fi show" and change the channel, just like they did with Firefly.
chosen1
10-19-2006, 11:23 AM
Whats stopping people from watching it on Sci-Fi? Nothing. The fact that its on sci-fi? Those same people would turn to NBC and see "Oh, a sci-fi show" and change the channel, just like they did with Firefly.
Well I'm not disagreeing w/ you because I was one of those people and still am. My brother watches this show and when I saw it for the first time after 5 minutes I was hooked. It just needs to be given a chance its better than most shows on TV
Superfreak
10-19-2006, 11:38 AM
Well I'm not disagreeing w/ you because I was one of those people and still am. My brother watches this show and when I saw it for the first time after 5 minutes I was hooked. It just needs to be given a chance its better than most shows on TV
well to the whole discussion. BSG is fine on Sci fi, going to NBC would kill the show, both in quality, and in heart. Coperate would widdle down the show until it was nothing but a faint impression of what it is now (and on Scifi).
it's the friday night slot in general. When BSG played after Sg1 and sgA, it was 'mooching' of a well defined audience (that of stargate). And those people are still in on friday nights to watch their show, and might aswell watch BSG afterwards too.
Now that the scifi friday has devolved with the addition of a number of other shows, the audience being drawn into the friday night line up on Scifi has changed, and maybe even shrunk.
I think Scifi should put BSG on Sunday night. 1) it's a pretty dead slot right now (foozball doesn't count) from my point of view and 2)it's a good night to have a 'deeper', more involved show on.
chosen1
10-20-2006, 07:42 AM
well to the whole discussion. BSG is fine on Sci fi, going to NBC would kill the show, both in quality, and in heart. Coperate would widdle down the show until it was nothing but a faint impression of what it is now (and on Scifi).
it's the friday night slot in general. When BSG played after Sg1 and sgA, it was 'mooching' of a well defined audience (that of stargate). And those people are still in on friday nights to watch their show, and might aswell watch BSG afterwards too.
Now that the scifi friday has devolved with the addition of a number of other shows, the audience being drawn into the friday night line up on Scifi has changed, and maybe even shrunk.
I think Scifi should put BSG on Sunday night. 1) it's a pretty dead slot right now (foozball doesn't count) from my point of view and 2)it's a good night to have a 'deeper', more involved show on.
I know youre right i just want to see the show get its due. :up:
Substance D
10-20-2006, 08:34 AM
I can't beleive the Pegasus gets it tonight.
chosen1
10-20-2006, 08:36 AM
I can't beleive the Pegasus gets it tonight.
Gets What?!!!!
Dont tell me
Superfreak
10-20-2006, 03:20 PM
Gets What?!!!!
Dont tell me
it, BSG vs. 4 baseships, only to be saved by a last stand by BSP. Anyone think, if BSP gets it tonight, that Dee will get it also?
Evelisse
10-20-2006, 09:17 PM
boom
Zenien
10-21-2006, 12:41 AM
I can't wait to watch it tommorow night.
Remember to spoiler tag stuff. :cmad:
chosen1
10-21-2006, 08:17 AM
Whohhhhhooohhooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That Episode Was Off The Hook.
Best Show On Tv Period
Superfreak
10-21-2006, 09:50 AM
it was a great episode, but it hasn't displaced HOG as my all time favorite episode.
I fell for the decoy!!! (as far as predicting what was going to happen from the preview)
Spoilers below:
Galactica's atmospheric jump was awesome, especially the vipers launching through the fire.
Pegasus destroying 3 baseships single handedly, and the last two were awesome. Finally got what I wanted, to see a Battlestar ram something.
Poor Starbuck, it was all a con in the end. Let us prepare for the Starbuck wants to have her own child subplot.
If I was a girl, I definately would have cried when Adama welcomed Tigh back aboard the Galactica. Loved that shot of Tigh walking towards the camera while breaking down, with Adama being lifted in celebration, but looking back, knowing that his old friend is in real pain. All the Tigh stuff in this epi was awesome.
I was impressed with the epi, but it just lacked a little something. For me, the middle of the episode didn't feel desperate enough (just prior to the arrival of pegasus). I think it could have used a little bit of a longer sequence to really show that the Galactica was in serious trouble. Everythng else was minty goodness.
Very happy we're kind of back to the status quo, and off the planet. Now that the whole occupation thing is done, I wonder where the show will be headed now? I'm sure over the next couple of episodes we'll have the aftermath of the occupation. Colaborators vs. Insurgents, and perhaps some sort of political witch hunt concept.
So where does Apollo fit in now. He's a commander, so is he second in command of Galactica now, with Tigh as the 3rd officer?
Very interested in seeing how things settle after the recue.
jus' checked some spoilers, and it seems next week is a nice single serving episode, and then another 2 part cliffhanger, and then 2 or 3 epis after that, another one. The first cliffhanger is cylon virus thing. sounds cool. Galactica comes across a crippled BS, and discovers why it is crippled. Should be very interesting. Can't wait til Dixon from Alias shows up as a new crack pilot (and I think he has something to do with the Adama causing the war subplot). Love this show, wish there were 2 episodes a week.
ord0g
10-21-2006, 10:38 AM
Best episode yet.
Darthphere
10-21-2006, 10:47 AM
Boom goes the dynamite. Though I called it a few months ago. Great episode. DAMN!
Superfreak
10-21-2006, 10:57 AM
Boom goes the dynamite. Though I called it a few months ago. Great episode. DAMN!
it was inevitable. The only dissappointment I had was that the idea of Pegasus being a trojan horse was not used. But it was still cool
Darthphere
10-21-2006, 11:05 AM
I think in total in took out 3 out of 8 Cylon baseships.
chosen1
10-21-2006, 11:48 AM
How many survivors are there now? There were over 45,000 before new caprica. adama said there were 2000 in space before liberation.
Darthphere
10-21-2006, 11:51 AM
Id account for about 3500-40,000 people now.
LadyVader
10-21-2006, 01:48 PM
What I wanna know is how come everybody got married? :)
Darthphere
10-21-2006, 01:50 PM
Because love is a unifying force.
Am I the only one that cant stand Anders?
LadyVader
10-21-2006, 01:55 PM
That boy is so one dimensional he's practically transparent. Callie is gone for a day and the Chief breaks down. Starbuck is gone for four months and Anders barely even mentions her.
Darthphere
10-21-2006, 01:57 PM
That boy is so one dimensional he's practically transparent. Callie is gone for a day and the Chief breaks down. Starbuck is gone for four months and Anders barely even mentions her.
LOL! For real, I was tellign a friend like" Has Anders even tried to find her in those 4 months?"
Whatever, looks like next week's episode will be intense, theres a preview up for cable subscribers with On Demand.
LadyVader
10-21-2006, 01:59 PM
I'm currently on episode 3. Still waiting for this badass Lee to show up. :)
Darthphere
10-21-2006, 02:02 PM
Pics for the episode "Measure of Salvation" Spoilers as usual.
http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/gallery/00091xp6?page=1
And a preview for the next week's episode "Collaborators"
http://lasvegas.cox.net/cci/tv/coxmain/television/scifi_bsg.html
LadyVader
10-21-2006, 02:45 PM
Because love is a unifying force.
Is that why Tigh killed his wife? :whatever:
Superfreak
10-21-2006, 02:49 PM
I think in total in took out 3 out of 8 Cylon baseships.
no, there were 4 total. Lee killed one in his opening barrage, then when Pegusus rammed the second, debris killed the third. Leaving one for Baltar and the other cylons to escape on. Either way, it was cool
Darthphere
10-21-2006, 03:21 PM
Youre right, 4 jumped into orbit, but I think in previous episodes they mentioned 8. Either way, badass.
Darthphere
10-21-2006, 03:23 PM
Is that why Tigh killed his wife? :whatever:
Love compels you to do things you may not want to do. If Tigh didnt kill her, Anders or some other person with a stick up their ass would.
LadyVader
10-21-2006, 03:30 PM
Youre right, 4 jumped into orbit, but I think in previous episodes they mentioned 8. Either way, badass.
It does however leave Lee without a command. On the bright side, it leaves him plenty of time to hit the gym. :D
Love compels you to do things you may not want to do. If Tigh didnt kill her, Anders or some other person with a stick up their ass would.
True but she was Tigh's last connection to humanity. At the end of episode 4 he seemed like a shell of his former self.
Darthphere
10-21-2006, 03:32 PM
Yeah, Tigh is a very underrated character on this show.
LadyVader
10-21-2006, 03:41 PM
not underrated just... the guy that has to do the things nobody else can do cause they got principles. He himself has stated it a few times. As such, people can't bring themselves to like him. I've always thought he's a prick, but somebody has to be, and I respect him for doing his job so well. But I still hate the fact that he has to do it.
Superfreak
10-21-2006, 03:52 PM
not underrated just... the guy that has to do the things nobody else can do cause they got principles. He himself has stated it a few times. As such, people can't bring themselves to like him. I've always thought he's a prick, but somebody has to be, and I respect him for doing his job so well. But I still hate the fact that he has to do it.
yeah, tigh is da bomb right now. 1)he's missing an eye (too cool for words) 2)he's still a badass prick 3)he's a total drunk, worse than starbuck 4)he just destroyed the only real relationship he had. He should be pretty scary next week.
I can't wait til this all catches up with him. It's gonna be a serious drunken brawl.
Substance D
10-21-2006, 03:58 PM
helo would make a good superhero.
Darthphere
10-21-2006, 04:01 PM
Seems pretty levelheaded in next week's episode.
Zenien
10-22-2006, 02:51 AM
Okey doke.
Zen hearts 'splosions.
I am happy to report that Exodus Part 2 kciked all kinds of butt (not just because there were explosions, that was a nice extra:o).
TheCorpulent1
10-22-2006, 09:13 AM
The Galactica freefall/atmospheric jump was badass. :up:
I was disappointed that Tigh didn't stand up for Ellen. She was always the one part of his life that he would actually behave like a human being for. I think he's going to lose a big part of his depth now that he's basically given himself over to his soulless prick side completely.
Holy **** that was the greatest thing iv ever seen on t.v.
That blew some huge budget movies out of the water. It was just mind blowing. Defintly the best thing on t.v.
That jump into the athmosphere was unexpected and just amazing tow watch, the vipers launching thew the fire, just as you think galactica is gone and the camera fades out like an ending was brilliant. The barrage from pegasus and the camera panning past the insignia on the side, the ramming of the basestar.
Just amazing, brilliant acting, directing, music. It was just seriously well done, .
chosen1
10-22-2006, 10:38 AM
Holy **** that was the greatest thing iv ever seen on t.v.
That blew some huge budget movies out of the water. It was just mind blowing. Defintly the best thing on t.v.
That jump into the athmosphere was unexpected and just amazing tow watch, the vipers launching thew the fire, just as you think galactica is gone and the camera fades out like an ending was brilliant. The barrage from pegasus and the camera panning past the insignia on the side, the ramming of the basestar.
Just amazing, brilliant acting, directing, music. It was just seriously well done, .
YES!
LadyVader
10-22-2006, 01:31 PM
Meh. it was alright.
:oldrazz:
chosen1
10-22-2006, 01:47 PM
hot dog was bad ass in that episode too.
chosen1
10-22-2006, 01:47 PM
that ending was frackin beautiful.
Superfreak
10-22-2006, 03:39 PM
so what do you think will happen to Geata and Jammer?
Jammer will be gutted and Geata will be in the process of getting a beating before he can explain he was the inside man
Pink Ranger
10-22-2006, 06:01 PM
I might have missed something, but I don't remember Jammer being "outed" as a collaborator yet. If I'm right, then I suspect he'll be a persistent plot device this season, like Baltar except Jammer starts off the season as bad.
chosen1
10-22-2006, 06:22 PM
I never liked jammer I always thought he dualla were cylons after watching 'valley of darkness.' Gaeta is cool though I hope they dont kill him.
chosen1
10-22-2006, 06:38 PM
Best show on TV!
Darthphere
10-22-2006, 08:50 PM
Jammer is dead for sure, hopefully Gaeta sticks around. I dont know, I think it should be painfulyy obvious it was Gaeta supplying them the info.
I might have missed something, but I don't remember Jammer being "outed" as a collaborator yet. If I'm right, then I suspect he'll be a persistent plot device this season, like Baltar except Jammer starts off the season as bad.
Nah, the cyclons used colonial one as there head of operations base type thing and im sure they have all kinds of files on what the cyclons where doing and who the collaborators where.
Superfreak
10-23-2006, 06:50 AM
I might have missed something, but I don't remember Jammer being "outed" as a collaborator yet. If I'm right, then I suspect he'll be a persistent plot device this season, like Baltar except Jammer starts off the season as bad.
I think DP put a link on the previous page, with a clip of Jammer being interrogated by the mock tribunal. They have files that expose him as a captain in the new caprica police.
chosen1
10-23-2006, 07:35 AM
Callies going to make jammer.
chosen1
10-23-2006, 08:13 AM
are we going to see anymore battlestars or a remake of galactica?
Superfreak
10-23-2006, 09:30 AM
are we going to see anymore battlestars or a remake of galactica?
I think that's it for reinforcements. Bringing in another battlestar would be redundant and pointless. As for the second part of your question, I have no idea what you are asking.
what i'd like to see in the future of the show, is an encounter with a completely alien species. Something so terrible, that even the cylons and humans have to band together.
and here's another thought for the future. In the 80's, when Galactica finally arrived at Earth, it was contemporary earth (ie. When BSG finally arrived at earth, it was litterally the year 1980).
How do you think that this will play out at the end of BSG2000? Will it be earth 2009, or will it be a future advance version of earth? What kind of future earth? Post Apocoliptic or a 'star trek' like utopia? Will it be the past? etc etc. What do you think?
chosen1
10-23-2006, 09:56 AM
What I meant was a redisigned galactica more improved. I was on a website for the old BSG and they had the blue prints for galactica and Blue print titles for Galactica 2 and 3
Superfreak
10-23-2006, 11:27 AM
What I meant was a redisigned galactica more improved. I was on a website for the old BSG and they had the blue prints for galactica and Blue print titles for Galactica 2 and 3
that's a bad idea, don't ever mention it aggain:hyper:
Pink Ranger
10-23-2006, 11:28 AM
what i'd like to see in the future of the show, is an encounter with a completely alien species. Something so terrible, that even the cylons and humans have to band together.
....
How do you think that this will play out at the end of BSG2000? Will it be earth 2009, or will it be a future advance version of earth? What kind of future earth? Post Apocoliptic or a 'star trek' like utopia? Will it be the past? etc etc. What do you think?
The creators of the current BSG seem to be of the Red Dwarf/Firefly school of science-fiction, which is No Aliens Allowed. Which is fine by me, although I greatly miss Imperious Leader.
That being said, wouldn't it be awesome if 2-3 seasons from now they finally reach Earth, but we're as technologically advanced as they are (maybe slightly more so) AND more evil and destructive than the Cylons?!?! Earth becomes the new enemy, and I think that would be cool.
I think that's it for reinforcements. Bringing in another battlestar would be redundant and pointless. As for the second part of your question, I have no idea what you are asking.
what i'd like to see in the future of the show, is an encounter with a completely alien species. Something so terrible, that even the cylons and humans have to band together.
and here's another thought for the future. In the 80's, when Galactica finally arrived at Earth, it was contemporary earth (ie. When BSG finally arrived at earth, it was litterally the year 1980).
How do you think that this will play out at the end of BSG2000? Will it be earth 2009, or will it be a future advance version of earth? What kind of future earth? Post Apocoliptic or a 'star trek' like utopia? Will it be the past? etc etc. What do you think?
Dear god I hope everything you ahve just never happens, ever.
No star trek alien bull****. No team up crap. I dont want to see story arcs of voyager creeping in to this excellent show (borg and boyager team up to stop species 15571 or whatever)
And i dont want them to show earth at all. Either they defeat the cyclons and the fleet jumps back to the twelve colonies to try and start over and the rest continue to look for earth (Or half the fleet jumps back and teh rest continue in search for earth)
Or they end the series with the fleet jumping into our solar system and just end it there and then.
Or they find earth and its "empty", just the remains of our civilisation. And they settle there.
Superfreak
10-23-2006, 12:15 PM
Dear god I hope everything you ahve just never happens, ever.
No star trek alien bull****. No team up crap. I dont want to see story arcs of voyager creeping in to this excellent show (borg and boyager team up to stop species 15571 or whatever)
And i dont want them to show earth at all. Either they defeat the cyclons and the fleet jumps back to the twelve colonies to try and start over and the rest continue to look for earth (Or half the fleet jumps back and teh rest continue in search for earth)
Or they end the series with the fleet jumping into our solar system and just end it there and then.
Or they find earth and its "empty", just the remains of our civilisation. And they settle there.
I don't mean team up definitively. But more along the lines that something comes along and messes with both of em. Not instigating a team up per say, but rather a cessation of hostilities while both get pounded by the new enemy.
as for the ending of the series, I'm all for the arrival at earth, and that's the end. I wasn't advocating any of the approaches, just asking an open question with possible examples. But I have to say, going back to the colonies defeats the entire purpose of one of the central plots in the show. And that is that the book of whatever, and the prophecy it contains, is real. To end the show without finding earth would be the dumbest move ever (unless they were taking the show from the small screen to the big screen)
Substance D
10-23-2006, 12:18 PM
the rivaling factions teaming up to overcome a more powerful agressor is common cliche when a series starts to lose momentum.
To end the show without finding earth would be the dumbest move ever (unless they were taking the show from the small screen to the big screen) I dont see why, earth is nothing more than hope for them. I dont actually expect them to find earth at all.
Superfreak
10-23-2006, 12:20 PM
How do you think adama started the colonial genocide? And coupled with that, how do you think the new character bulldog will be involved in that?
Darthphere
10-23-2006, 12:25 PM
How do you think adama started the colonial genocide? And coupled with that, how do you think the new character bulldog will be involved in that?
I really want to know what was up with that line too.
chosen1
10-23-2006, 01:02 PM
It seems to me that they would have to do something because all of pegasus personnel are on galactica. Correct?
It has to be a little crowded and they did show that a little in the final scene. But where are they going to put all those raptors and vipers. Whats the chain of command now. Is there one cag or two.
I am anxious and have a lot of questions
Superfreak
10-23-2006, 01:22 PM
It seems to me that they would have to do something because all of pegasus personnel are on galactica. Correct?
It has to be a little crowded and they did show that a little in the final scene. But where are they going to put all those raptors and vipers. Whats the chain of command now. Is there one cag or two.
I am anxious and have a lot of questions
could be that they still haven't repaired the port launch bay wing (the one that was converted into the museum. Maybe they hadn't fixed it yet
chosen1
10-23-2006, 01:26 PM
could be that they still haven't repaired the port launch bay wing (the one that was converted into the museum. Maybe they hadn't fixed it yet
It seems to me that an upgrade/slight Redisign would'nt be a bad idea.
Superfreak
10-23-2006, 01:27 PM
That being said, wouldn't it be awesome if 2-3 seasons from now they finally reach Earth, but we're as technologically advanced as they are (maybe slightly more so) AND more evil and destructive than the Cylons?!?! Earth becomes the new enemy, and I think that would be cool.
that's an awesome idea.
I'd also go for the arrive at earth, and found that a nuclear holocaust had occured, where we, the humans of the 13th colony had destroyed ourselves, dooming humanity as a whole, forever.
Darthphere
10-23-2006, 01:27 PM
I think its possible, I think we can expect another 3-4 month time jump.
Superfreak
10-23-2006, 01:33 PM
I think its possible, I think we can expect another 3-4 month time jump.
yeah, backward, so we can see what actually happened during the time on NC that we all missed
Darthphere
10-23-2006, 01:36 PM
No forward, as in Apollo hitting the gym.
Pink Ranger
10-23-2006, 10:22 PM
that's an awesome idea.
I'd also go for the arrive at earth, and found that a nuclear holocaust had occured, where we, the humans of the 13th colony had destroyed ourselves, dooming humanity as a whole, forever.
That would be cool too, but also a somewhat dark and bleak ending to the whole series.
I can almost picture Adama running along the beach and seeing the Statue of Libery stuck in the sand.
"You did it! You blew it all up! Damn you all, damn you all to hell!"
He pauses.
"And Soylent Green is people! Damn you all to hell!"
Pauses again.
"And the so-called 'Fifth Element' is Love?!?!? That's bullsh!#!! Damn you all to hell again!" :p
huskerwebhead
10-23-2006, 11:12 PM
HA!!! Nobody believed me when I said Pegasus was going to get it this episode. :)
Damn fine episode...best yet. As many have already said, Galactica jumping into the atmosphere and launching the vipers was amazing. And I figured something was up with Kasey, Starbuck's supposed kid. It didn't make sense that all the Cylons were so intent on find Hera if they could just make Cylon/Human hybrids. It would have made Hera's importance unfounded. Poor Saul...I feel for the guy. He was badass on New Caprica...and in that episode. We'll just have to see what happens there.
And even though I knew it was coming, was I the only one who screamed like a little girl when that rocket came flying in signaling the arrival of Lee and the Pegasus?? Damn fine episode. Damn fine.
chosen1
10-24-2006, 03:49 AM
HA!!! Nobody believed me when I said Pegasus was going to get it this episode. :)
Damn fine episode...best yet. As many have already said, Galactica jumping into the atmosphere and launching the vipers was amazing. And I figured something was up with Kasey, Starbuck's supposed kid. It didn't make sense that all the Cylons were so intent on find Hera if they could just make Cylon/Human hybrids. It would have made Hera's importance unfounded. Poor Saul...I feel for the guy. He was badass on New Caprica...and in that episode. We'll just have to see what happens there.
And even though I knew it was coming, was I the only one who screamed like a little girl when that rocket came flying in signaling the arrival of Lee and the Pegasus?? Damn fine episode. Damn fine.
YES YES YES!
Zenien
10-24-2006, 03:58 AM
It seems to me that an upgrade/slight Redisign would'nt be a bad idea.
Forget a redesign/Upgrade, how about some extensive repair work on the darn thing. Especially considering the pounding it took in Exodus Part 2.
The colonial fleet has managed to properly implement some form of infastructure for maintenance and the construction of munisions and new vipers and so on, though how knows how well that infastructure was maintained with most of the human race settling on New Caprica.
Sure Battlestars are probably designed for decades upon decades worth of viable service, but not operating without a shipyard to patch it up every once in a while after it has been damaged. Galactica has been damaged a LOT, I don't think (Especially the damage sustained in Exodus) all of it is the type of damage that is within the ability of the 'rag tag fleet' to repair.
That free fall must have put some serious strain on the superstructure of the ship, and it's probably going to be some time before Galactica is even close to being as healthy as it was before the time jump that occured at the end of Season 2. They were pretty much totalled at the end of Exodus.
And Galactica was already a bird with a clipped wing when the series started, half of its hull plating stripped, one of its launch bays converted toa museum (complete with nice huge windows to give visitors a view of the stars)...
Superfreak
10-24-2006, 08:39 AM
Forget a redesign/Upgrade, how about some extensive repair work on the darn thing. Especially considering the pounding it took in Exodus Part 2.
The colonial fleet has managed to properly implement some form of infastructure for maintenance and the construction of munisions and new vipers and so on, though how knows how well that infastructure was maintained with most of the human race settling on New Caprica.
Sure Battlestars are probably designed for decades upon decades worth of viable service, but not operating without a shipyard to patch it up every once in a while after it has been damaged. Galactica has been damaged a LOT, I don't think (Especially the damage sustained in Exodus) all of it is the type of damage that is within the ability of the 'rag tag fleet' to repair.
That free fall must have put some serious strain on the superstructure of the ship, and it's probably going to be some time before Galactica is even close to being as healthy as it was before the time jump that occured at the end of Season 2. They were pretty much totalled at the end of Exodus.
And Galactica was already a bird with a clipped wing when the series started, half of its hull plating stripped, one of its launch bays converted toa museum (complete with nice huge windows to give visitors a view of the stars)...
with that in mind, what I'd like to see, is a kind of expansion of the 'battle ready fleet'.
By that I mean this: Let's say that Galactica is beginning to feel the strain of the many battles it has been in. As mentioned above, she was an old ship when the series began, and has now been through a number of major battles.
What I'd like to see, is some of the colonial fleet ships be armed and retrofitted to be able to carry the excess vipers and raptors from pegasus. These wouldn't become warships, but a kind of defensive force to augment the CAP, and take some of the burden off of Galactica. I think the best analogy could be WWII convoy ships in the atlantic. These were civilian ships, but many had picked up some weapons along the way to provide a little defence against the germans.
We saw some of this in HOG, when Galactica requisitioned a couple of freighters as a 'decoy' to capture the tillium refinery. And we also saw that some of the civilian ships have weapons in Home part I.
I think it would be a cool aspect to integrate into the show. It never made sense to me that all the eggs were in one basket with Galactica, destroy it, and the fleet is finished. I always felt that they should distribute some of the fighting power to the fleet.
chosen1
10-24-2006, 10:07 AM
I cant wait until friday! :woot:
Darthphere
10-24-2006, 10:49 AM
Gaeta is so dead.
chosen1
10-24-2006, 11:32 AM
Gaeta is so dead.
Please No.
chosen1
10-24-2006, 12:44 PM
At least two more seasons confirmed! :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:
At least two more seasons confirmed! :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:
You see this --> :dry: this is my happy face.
Thank god it hasnt got cancelled.
Darthphere
10-24-2006, 12:56 PM
Where did you get this info?
chosen1
10-24-2006, 01:05 PM
You see this --> :dry: this is my happy face.
Thank god it hasnt got cancelled.
your happy face needs improvement. LOL
chosen1
10-24-2006, 01:05 PM
Where did you get this info?
They just put it up on the superhero hype news interview w/ R. Moore
Zenien
10-24-2006, 02:37 PM
At least two more seasons confirmed! :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:
I just read the entire thing and I can't find any mentioned of 2 more seasons being confirmed. >=|
So right now my gut says we've got a couple more years to do it. I could see two more seasons. Next year you can ask me the same question and maybe I'll say two more seasons. So yeah, I don't know.
Zenien
10-24-2006, 02:52 PM
We've learned that in its 3rd week, Battlestar Galactica, critically acclaimed flagship show of the SCI FI Channel, has shed more viewers.
Airing Friday 20 October, Exodus Part 2 obtained a 1.4 HHR according to the fast overnight Nielsen ratings. This is a drop of approximately 11.1% from the 1.6 HHR for Exodus Part 1, and a drop of approximately 22.2% from the 1.8 HHR gained by the Season 3 premiere episodes.
No one here wishes ill of Battlestar Galactica, any more than we wish ill of Stargate SG-1 or Atlantis. Many of us are fans, or at least viewers, of all three shows. As campaigners, we've been arguing since the cancellation that, together, the Gates and Galactica had a natural synergy, a must-see triad in the SCI Friday lineup that strengthened the ratings of all.
SaveStargateSg1.com
I'll admit the premiere was a horrible 2 episode pack to try and hook new viewers, but Exodus Part 2 was a very good episode. Hopefully the ratings go back up after WoM from Exodus part 2, and hopefully DVD sales and other revenue streams are helping out BSG to stay viable. It's retarded that this show of all shows seems to be having ratings problems.
Superfreak
10-25-2006, 07:16 AM
saw this post over at Scifi, thought it'd be a fun topic to discuss:
A group of aliens ships is headed for earth! They are going to take about ten years to get here. They have at least one massive warship that can take a hit from a nuc and a huge landing force made up of many smaller ships carrying up to 50,000 invaders. How would you defend earth and what would you (as the person in charge of earths defence) build to defend earth with current and near current tech and an near unlimited budget?
Interestingly enough, someone replied with an answer along the lines of this: Create a society of monotheistic horny androids, that look almost Human to intercept them along the way
Substance D
10-25-2006, 07:23 AM
open a comm and have zenien nag them to death about what she's read on the internet...
Superfreak
10-25-2006, 08:18 AM
Gaeta is so dead.
I'm pretty sure that's not gonna happen: When the fleet stumbles upon the Baseship downed by the virus, they're gonna need someone techy to figure out what happened to it. Now that Baltar is gone (I'm assuming he's gone, but I think he'll be with the fleet next epi), or now that Baltar is a definate villain, after the events of the occupation. Gaeta teamed up with Sharon, will be an invaluable team, and realistically, the only 2 qualified to actually figured out what happend (other than Baltar).
was also thinking about this 'first act of cylon on cylon violence' that Caprica is supposedly to have done. Wasn't there a 6 and a Doral who thumped Sharon Agathon pretty hard way back when Helo and her were running around Caprica? And didn't Boomer nuke a baseship, know finally for sure that she was a cylon (after running into 100 or so naked copies of herself)?
C. Lee
10-25-2006, 09:16 AM
was also thinking about this 'first act of cylon on cylon violence' that Caprica is supposedly to have done. Wasn't there a 6 and a Doral who thumped Sharon Agathon pretty hard way back when Helo and her were running around Caprica? And didn't Boomer nuke a baseship, know finally for sure that she was a cylon (after running into 100 or so naked copies of herself)?
I think they were talking about it as a "Non acting job to fool humans" (as in the Sharon beating) or "Non confused sleeper-agent Cylon who's mind is being messed with" (Sharon nuking the place)......it was the first Cylon going against the group's concensus to hurt another Cylon in pursuit of their own agenda.
Superfreak
10-25-2006, 09:28 AM
violence is violence
Darthphere
10-25-2006, 11:36 AM
But that was play violence. If you want to get technical, then Boomer's attempted suicide would really be the first act of violence against a cylon.
chosen1
10-26-2006, 07:57 AM
Does anyone else feel this way....
Man this is the only show that I am excited out of my pants to see all week. It started when Bsg ep 4 ended last friday. I honestly dont feel that way about any of the other shows I watch.
Darthphere
10-26-2006, 08:01 AM
I like all my shoes.
chosen1
10-26-2006, 08:02 AM
whoops
Darthphere
10-26-2006, 08:07 AM
And yes, i feel that way too.
Superfreak has such an awesome avatar.
chosen1
10-26-2006, 08:08 AM
Superfreak has such an awesome avatar.
oh **** i just saw it!!!!!!!!!!
Where do you get those?????
Superfreak
10-26-2006, 11:33 AM
oh **** i just saw it!!!!!!!!!!
Where do you get those?????
google, and you don't want to know where I found it, I think I'd get banned if I showed you where (but the best way to find em IMO, is to go around other galactica forums, and theif 'em)
Speaking of galactica forums, any good ones about?
Gogo Bananas
10-26-2006, 05:13 PM
I've been thinking about something:
The Cylons were intelligent enough to become self aware and rebel.
They went to war with the Colonies and then disappeared to found their own world.
While they were there they developed the organic strain of Cylon.
Now we have organic Cylons and robotic Cylons.
The robotic Cylons are described as having the intelligence of animals, or retarded.
If so, how could the robotic Cylons have been smart enough to rebel or create the organic models?
Where are the intelligent robotic models?
Because really, if you're going to go into combat, wouldn't you rather have a smart fighter in a near indestructible body?
And why should the organic models be on the top of the Cylon poop-heap?
If I was a robotic Cylon intelligent enough to create the organic model, would I be stupid enough to allow those same organic models dumb me down?
And if the organic models turned on their creators, shouldn't they maybe have a little more compassion for the Colonials?
Darthphere
10-26-2006, 05:19 PM
My brain hurts. The only way I could answer that question (purely speculation) is that there were intelligent Cylon models, not Centurions, but actual Cyclons that could think independently so forth. These are the models that initally rallied the rebellion after becoming aware that their purpose was to be slaves. Perhaps even some humans who thought the practice was wrong helped them in this ideology.
From there, the war began and when they left, found God, and tried to be one with him. They figured of course that to be one with God truly, they have to be made in his image, of course assuming this is the same Judeo-Christian God. Therefore, with their vast intelligence, began to experiment on organics to make themselves what we see today.
Its entirely possible that these vastly intelligent cyclons are the same ones that soon became the organic Cylon hierarchy, as in Doral, D'Ann, 6, and Sharon etc. So it can be assumed that the Centruions (dumb robots) werent created in the same capacity as the higher level thinkers (organics)
Of course, this is all just speculation and theory.
Gogo Bananas
10-26-2006, 05:25 PM
The original series was way more involved as far as Cylons went. There were different IL series. They also had a few of the brainy type Cylons, like Lucifer.
I think that's something the re-imagined series really needs to delve into.
Just cuz, y'know, Lucifer KICKED ASS!
Darthphere
10-26-2006, 05:29 PM
The original series was way more involved as far as Cylons went. There were different IL series. They also had a few of the brainy type Cylons, like Lucifer.
I think that's something the re-imagined series really needs to delve into.
Just cuz, y'know, Lucifer KICKED ASS!
Well, if you think about it, each Cylon model is different in their inherent line of thought. 6's seem more warrior like, Sharon's or 8's seem more cautious, one might even say motherly, understanding. 3's are cold and calculated, but easily humbled. Doral's (forgot the number) are headstrong, brash and easily angered. Caville's are intelligent, philosophical and bitter, Leoben's model, just seems crazy.
Gogo Bananas
10-26-2006, 05:34 PM
Yeah, I think Moore said the Cylons are based on some kind of archetypal structure. Maybe somthing from Campbells book.
12 Cylon models.
12 Colonies.
12 Signs of the Zodiac.
12 Gods of the Greek/Roman pantheons.
12 Disciples of Christ.
12, 12, 12...always twelve.
Darthphere
10-26-2006, 05:36 PM
I wonder if we'll ever see more Cylon models, or do you believ like the Centurions represent a model and the Raiders are another?
Gogo Bananas
10-26-2006, 05:42 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylons
Orginally there were 6 or so different Cylon models. So far we have 2, because even though there are 12 organic types they're really all just the same idea.
I'm just waiting for a Cylon homeworld episode. I want to see a huge Cylon mainframe governing their society, and classic models walking around.
Gogo Bananas
10-26-2006, 05:52 PM
Actually there a couple other things that have been bugging me. And not because I'm ripping on the show, cuz it's my favorite thing on right now, but...
Cylons are supposed to be individuals, but the Caprica Boomer who had never been on Galactica or met any of those people has memories of things Galactica Boomer experienced. How does that happen? Do they pool memories at download?
And in the pilot Adama describes Starbuck as "the best combat pilot I've ever seen." When would he see her fly in combat? The Cylon War ended 40 years ago...a good 15 years or so before Starbuck was even born!
chosen1
10-27-2006, 07:43 AM
Actually there a couple other things that have been bugging me. And not because I'm ripping on the show, cuz it's my favorite thing on right now, but...
Cylons are supposed to be individuals, but the Caprica Boomer who had never been on Galactica or met any of those people has memories of things Galactica Boomer experienced. How does that happen? Do they pool memories at download?
And in the pilot Adama describes Starbuck as "the best combat pilot I've ever seen." When would he see her fly in combat? The Cylon War ended 40 years ago...a good 15 years or so before Starbuck was even born!
I was puzzled w/ the boomer thing as well. But w/ starbuck she was on galactica for a little over two years w/ Adama after zack died and before the attack on caprica. Adama probably used his pull to get kara transfered and in two years through simulations and test flights you can tell how good a pilot is.
War Lord
10-27-2006, 08:23 AM
Actually there a couple other things that have been bugging me. And not because I'm ripping on the show, cuz it's my favorite thing on right now, but...
Cylons are supposed to be individuals, but the Caprica Boomer who had never been on Galactica or met any of those people has memories of things Galactica Boomer experienced. How does that happen? Do they pool memories at download?
And in the pilot Adama describes Starbuck as "the best combat pilot I've ever seen." When would he see her fly in combat? The Cylon War ended 40 years ago...a good 15 years or so before Starbuck was even born!
I believe that memories are downloaded at death.
Two points on Starbuck.
1. The war with the Cylons isn't necessarily the only war the humans ever experienced recently. I think it's a reasonable supposition that there might have been other combat situations prior to the cylon war. Humans are prone to have skirmishes.
2. Combat pilot probably is a position in the military. It's not necessary to be in combat to be a combat pilot.
huskerwebhead
10-27-2006, 08:47 AM
My brain hurts. The only way I could answer that question (purely speculation) is that there were intelligent Cylon models, not Centurions, but actual Cyclons that could think independently so forth. These are the models that initally rallied the rebellion after becoming aware that their purpose was to be slaves. Perhaps even some humans who thought the practice was wrong helped them in this ideology.
From there, the war began and when they left, found God, and tried to be one with him. They figured of course that to be one with God truly, they have to be made in his image, of course assuming this is the same Judeo-Christian God. Therefore, with their vast intelligence, began to experiment on organics to make themselves what we see today.
Its entirely possible that these vastly intelligent cyclons are the same ones that soon became the organic Cylon hierarchy, as in Doral, D'Ann, 6, and Sharon etc. So it can be assumed that the Centruions (dumb robots) werent created in the same capacity as the higher level thinkers (organics)
Of course, this is all just speculation and theory.
I'd agree with this. In the first episode they even have an "original" BSG Cylon standing there as a museum piece. So it's logical to assume that these could have been the original Clyons that rebelled...or at least show that there were other versions of Cylons before what we currently know.
huskerwebhead
10-27-2006, 08:51 AM
I wonder if we'll ever see more Cylon models, or do you believ like the Centurions represent a model and the Raiders are another?
I do believe the Raiders are a model. They have "brains" and no actual pilots...so it seems like they would be. Course, I guess the same could be said about the US Military's UAV's in a sense...so who knows.
huskerwebhead
10-27-2006, 08:55 AM
I believe that memories are downloaded at death.
I thought that's what they said in one of the episodes. That being said, it's important to remember that memories are downloaded...but not "feelings." So while all the six's may know who Baltar is...only Caprica "loves" him.
Superfreak
10-27-2006, 01:47 PM
I do believe the Raiders are a model. They have "brains" and no actual pilots...so it seems like they would be. Course, I guess the same could be said about the US Military's UAV's in a sense...so who knows.
didn't we talke about this like 30 pages ago?
anyhow, if raiders are included in those models, then it would be safe to say that Baseships are also sentient mechanical beings. And they might be the ultimate intelligence as far as cylons are concerned
huskerwebhead
10-27-2006, 02:13 PM
didn't we talke about this like 30 pages ago?
anyhow, if raiders are included in those models, then it would be safe to say that Baseships are also sentient mechanical beings. And they might be the ultimate intelligence as far as cylons are concerned
We might have...but I have drank several times since then and wiped out my memory. :)
That's assuming that baseships have the organic brains/insides like the Raiders do. I don't think we've seen the insides of a baseship yet to confirm that.
huskerwebhead
10-27-2006, 04:34 PM
Darthphere...your Avatar and comment kicks ass. Period.
Darthphere
10-27-2006, 04:45 PM
Husker, thank you. By the way, the 12 models are humanoid models so Raiders and such dont count. Well according to Wikipedia.
Substance D
10-27-2006, 09:17 PM
how come nobody is talking about tonight's ep? was it really that bad??? :wow:
Darthphere
10-27-2006, 09:20 PM
Tonight's episode was awesome! I swear, I hated them all all episode. But Chief is redeemed in my eyes. Tigh, Starbuck and the others need to get that stick out their ass and start realizing theyre not mad at them, theyre mad at the Cylons and they killed all those people as scape goats.
HOLY ****
I've never posted mid-episode before, but damn, 9:05 and already slapped across the face. When his head hit the side of the launch tube...
I have a feeling this will be an "uncomfortable" episode.
Zenien
10-27-2006, 11:16 PM
Curse you Canadian programing, why must I wait until tommorow!?!?!? :cmad:
chosen1
10-28-2006, 05:38 AM
Awesome ep. whew I thought gaeta was dead.:woot:
Darthphere
10-28-2006, 09:21 AM
Anybody else hate the fact that everyone seemed to just get their old job back?
chosen1
10-28-2006, 09:48 AM
Anybody else hate the fact that everyone seemed to just get their old job back?
yeah a little. Kind of hard to see where there going. Galactica looks horrible they need to do some serious remodeling.
Favorite character (Now)- Colonel tigh
Darthphere
10-28-2006, 09:52 AM
The previews for next week's episode just shows how petty the Cylons are " We decided to make Earth our new home" C'mon, theyre on this high horse all the time and dont realize how petty, pathetic and evil they really are.
Superfreak
10-28-2006, 10:18 AM
'DO YOU KNOW WHERE MY EYE IS?!?!!??!" That was awesome!!!!!!
what a great epi. I'll leave it at that. I hated Jammer (as a character) so good riddens. And everything else was so intense.
Starbuck is officially bonkers thanks to her 4 months in 're-education'.
Darthphere
10-28-2006, 10:24 AM
Jammer was gangsta, take it back! And damnit, Gaeta was the man in this episode. Really, if it wasnt for him, they would all be dead. The guy deserves a ****ing medal and he wont even get an apology.
Superfreak
10-28-2006, 10:36 AM
OK, here is the question of all questions:
In the Mini Series, Adama found a note in his office, telling him that 'there are 12 cylon models'. This is the longest unanswered question in the series so far. Who, left that note? It's a VERY important question if you think about it. It's how everybody knows there are 12. So who left it? If it was left by cylons, why? If it was left by baltar, why? Who left it? From who knew at the time, it could have been Baltar, a cylon from the fleet, or boomer
oh, and can I say, that if Lucy Lawless, looking as she did, walked into my jail cell (while it was outfited like the ultimate sci fi shag pad) I would have dropped my robe right there and gone to work.
Darthphere
10-28-2006, 10:39 AM
Hell Yes!
Darthphere
10-28-2006, 04:53 PM
I read somewhere that Stargate Sg-1 fans who watched BSG are boycotting BSG because Sci-Fi cancelled SG-1. Is this true?
Pink Ranger
10-28-2006, 09:01 PM
In the Mini Series, Adama found a note in his office, telling him that 'there are 12 cylon models'. This is the longest unanswered question in the series so far. Who, left that note? It's a VERY important question if you think about it. It's how everybody knows there are 12. So who left it? If it was left by cylons, why? If it was left by baltar, why? Who left it? From who knew at the time, it could have been Baltar, a cylon from the fleet, or boomer
I've always wondered that myself. I guessed Adam picked it up from the Leoben Conoy he killed on the munitions station.
Pink Ranger
10-29-2006, 09:27 AM
I read somewhere that Stargate Sg-1 fans who watched BSG are boycotting BSG because Sci-Fi cancelled SG-1. Is this true?
I hope to God not, because that would be the dumbest thing ever.
To protest the cancellation of an okay show, let's try to make them cancel a terrific one. That'll teach them!! :(
Superfreak
10-29-2006, 11:03 AM
I've always wondered that myself. I guessed Adam picked it up from the Leoben Conoy he killed on the munitions station.
which begs the question, why would leoben do that?
Superfreak
10-29-2006, 11:25 AM
I read somewhere that Stargate Sg-1 fans who watched BSG are boycotting BSG because Sci-Fi cancelled SG-1. Is this true?
that's brilliant!! Protest the cancellation of your show, by boycotting, and potentially destroying (through ratings) the only real replacement heir of any quality
Dr Lee
10-29-2006, 11:31 AM
I'm sorry to say that there are a small number of Stargate fans that are boycotting anything that SCI-FI has anything to do with (apart from Atlantis) just to try and 'make a point'.:csad:
That being said a small part of me is glad that BSG isn't doing as well on it's own as it was doing with both the SG's, As the splitting up of the SG-1, SG-1, BSG line up to see how well BSG would do on it's own is part of the reason why SG-1 was cancelled in the first place...
I'm sorry to say that there are a small number of Stargate fans that are boycotting anything that SCI-FI has anything to do with (apart from Atlantis) just to try and 'make a point'.:csad:
That being said a small part of me is glad that BSG isn't doing as well on it's own as it was doing with both the SG's, As the splitting up of the SG-1, SG-1, BSG line up to see how well BSG would do on it's own is part of the reason why SG-1 was cancelled in the first place...
Bah, its run its course. Let it die while it still has some respect.
Dr Lee
10-29-2006, 03:37 PM
i wasn't blaming BSG for the cancellation of SG-1 one bit (the SCI-FI exec's on the other hand.... LOL), the show is now ten years old and while i am a bit disapointed it's not the end of the world to me.
chosen1
10-30-2006, 12:22 PM
Man, Why is this show so Good? :woot:
LadyVader
10-30-2006, 12:23 PM
The stargate franchise marches on. :)
Anyway. I love Gaeta, and I love Alessandro Juliani. His expressions and body language during the so called execution were perfect. and when he said the line: "I'm not gonna beg" I was cheering. it did seem weird to me that NO ONE knew until then that he was the source. Why wouldn't he tell people? Other people besides Starbuck anyway.
Darthphere
10-30-2006, 12:32 PM
I just cant see how someone didnt figure it out by themselves. Who else is going to give you that info?
Superfreak
11-01-2006, 10:33 AM
so, any predictions on how Adama is gonna break Starbuck and Tigh? It seems that this friday they're gonna be all uppety and will try and start some sort of mutiny. So how's Bill gonna deal with these new malcontents?
Darthphere
11-01-2006, 10:38 AM
By telling them to turn around and get their fatasses out of there?
Maybe Starbuck and Tigh will be able to heal each other. They've got such a rocky relationship and they're both seriously hurting, it might make for some interesting common ground.
Darthphere
11-01-2006, 10:50 AM
Looks like theyre going ahead with this Caprica show, which i think is stupid.
Superfreak
11-01-2006, 11:29 AM
Maybe Starbuck and Tigh will be able to heal each other. They've got such a rocky relationship and they're both seriously hurting, it might make for some interesting common ground.
brilliant, seriously. I always though Tigh and SB would make a great couple on the show. They're both waste cases, and SB is the trouble maker, while Tigh has some ability to make diamonds with his rectum. That's why it's perfect. SB needs that dick head father figure as a BF, it would play so well in the development of the character (especially if they lay a subplot that SB's father was a dick head drunk like Tigh, reverse Oedipus syndrome, and it all fits in strangely well with the Greek culture/mythology thing that BSG always has going on)
chosen1
11-01-2006, 11:32 AM
umm tigh is like twice her age or older.....:huh:
^Bravo Superfreak, I like it!
umm tigh is like twice her age or older.....
So?
chosen1
11-01-2006, 11:46 AM
^Bravo Superfreak, I like it!
So?
Of course what was I thinking.....
I don't know, what were you thinking? They're two fully grown adults, nothing wrong with that. Curious, how old are you?
SF, I just found this, so you may be on the right track.
In an unhappy childhood, Thrace was so frequently beaten by her mother that she came to accept pain as a way of life (Flesh and Bone).
Her father was a pianist (Valley of Darkness), suggesting that her formerly broken finger bones on both hands had been intentionally broken by a parent using her father's piano (The Farm).
chosen1
11-01-2006, 12:31 PM
I don't know, what were you thinking? They're two fully grown adults, nothing wrong with that. Curious, how old are you?
I'm 21, and you?
Darthphere
11-01-2006, 12:32 PM
Thats stupid either way, theyre not hooking them up, if spoilers have anything to say about it.
chosen1
11-01-2006, 12:35 PM
I'm 24.
cool
chosen1
11-01-2006, 12:36 PM
Thats stupid either way, theyre not hooking them up, if spoilers have anything to say about it.
shhhh... (we dont want anyone to know we dissaprove.)
LadyVader
11-01-2006, 03:04 PM
This is a non-issue. Tigh and Starbuck hate eachother. Always have, probably always will. Best they can hope for is uneasy camarederie. Anything beyond that is, in the words of Sherman Potter, "grade A, one hundred percent bull cookies!"
Superfreak
11-01-2006, 03:14 PM
This is a non-issue. Tigh and Starbuck hate eachother. Always have, probably always will. Best they can hope for is uneasy camarederie. Anything beyond that is, in the words of Sherman Potter, "grade A, one hundred percent bull cookies!"
you know what they say when a girl and guy 'hate' each other...
LadyVader
11-01-2006, 03:19 PM
You mean: "Oh Look. That guy and that girl hate each other".
:rolleyes:
I think Galactica is a bit beyond that kind of high school mentality. If two people are completely different and are in no way, shape or form attracted to eachother, why in God's name would they be romantically involved?
Superfreak
11-01-2006, 03:23 PM
yeah, but now he's short an eye, and has some bad in his badboy bank
(and the idea is sound, when two people who can't express their feelings properly like each other, they always fight, that's just life. And of all the characters on BSG that have issues with expressing themselves, it is definately SB and Tigh that take the crown).
And just while my brain is focused on BSG (so much for studying), do you guys expect any fallout from the President having Cylon blood coursing through her veins, or the remains of cylon blood coursing through her veins? do you think that it had any other affect on her? Do you think that it might tie her to the cylons in some way? etc etc.
I can't really picture Tigh and SB in a "real" relationship, but I could see them getting down in the heat of the moment. Nothing romantic, more like lust or release born of tension, confusion, and inner turmoil.
Substance D
11-01-2006, 04:05 PM
I can't really picture Tigh and SB in a "real" relationship, but I could see them getting down in the heat of the moment. Nothing romantic, more like lust or release born of tension, confusion, and inner turmoil.
Tigh and SB ripping off each other's clothes in a heated moment of lust is something I never want to see. :csad:
Superfreak
11-01-2006, 04:48 PM
I can't really picture Tigh and SB in a "real" relationship, but I could see them getting down in the heat of the moment. Nothing romantic, more like lust or release born of tension, confusion, and inner turmoil.
well yeah, it could never last, but it'd be damn entertaining to watch that ship sink.
Pink Ranger
11-01-2006, 05:02 PM
well yeah, it could never last, but it'd be damn entertaining to watch that ship sink.
Hear, hear. That dysfunctional freak show would make Saul and Ellen look like Ward and June by comparison.
chosen1
11-02-2006, 08:39 AM
I miss pegasus. :csad:
chosen1
11-02-2006, 08:53 AM
anybody have pics of Racetrack. Or that tall white chick who cut her hair and was reading Gaeta his rights.
chosen1
11-03-2006, 08:30 AM
Lt. Crashdown was in an episode of Dexter.
Superfreak
11-03-2006, 08:34 AM
c'mon chosen, what's the point of posting if you have nothing to say? If you're geeking out, ask a question, start a debate, do something other than single posts. You know? (just cuz I saw the thread at the top, hoping there was something interesting, and it's another one of your posts, 3 in a row now, with nothing relevent really).
come up with something good and interesting to ask buddy, that's all I ask. Enough of this 'i miss peggy' stuff
well yeah, it could never last, but it'd be damn entertaining to watch that ship sink.
Hear hear!!
So, is Lee gonna be squeezin' his fat ass back into a viper anytime soon?
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