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Angry Sentinel
01-22-2007, 12:27 PM
Some random observations about the last episode:

2. D'anna apologizes to one of the five Cylons, meaning it's somebody she's slighted in her dealings with humans. It merits looking back to old episodes to see who she's been giving a hard time to.

I had the exact same thought when I viewed the episode, kind of felt like the writer's were tipping their hat to tell us this much. It's either a huge clue or a red herring...

Other points:

Why has that one Cylon been obsessed with Starbuck? Why is his precog abilities centered around their interactions? Does it have something to do with her recurring vision of the image?

Will Baltar find earth?

Can we make it through this season :eek: :up:

Darthphere
01-22-2007, 12:28 PM
The whole apologizing thing is a red herring. I can't remember one person D'Anna directly hurt, except for Baltar when she tortured him.

Pink Ranger
01-22-2007, 12:32 PM
The whole apologizing thing is a red herring. I can't remember one person D'Anna directly hurt, except for Baltar when she tortured him.

I wasn't thinking about her physically hurting someone, but she has treated humans with an insulting, condescending attitude in previous episodes. I thought that might be what she was apologizing for.

Angry Sentinel
01-22-2007, 12:36 PM
The whole apologizing thing is a red herring. I can't remember one person D'Anna directly hurt, except for Baltar when she tortured him.

That's how I see it too, they almost directly pointed a finger at Baltar as if he didn't already have enough fingers pointing his way. What's the old saying, "too much information is dis-information."

Now if it's Starbuck, you could indirectly say she was apologizing for their capture of her (and screwing with her), twice.

Darthphere
01-22-2007, 12:36 PM
I wasn't thinking about her physically hurting someone, but she has treated humans with an insulting, condescending attitude in previous episodes. I thought that might be what she was apologizing for.

Exactly. Its a pretty general apology, so you can't really get any clues from that.

Speedball
01-22-2007, 03:10 PM
Could it be...Anders?!!! who is one of the final five.
It's the only one that makes sense.

HR-PUFF&STUFF
01-22-2007, 03:42 PM
what if the first 5 were based off of humans so that you could have a human and cylon that looked the same. they are the first 5 so maybe they used living humans to modle themselfs after.

Pink Ranger
01-22-2007, 05:25 PM
Could it be...Anders?!!! who is one of the final five.
It's the only one that makes sense.


I agree. It helps explain his prodigious athletic ability, and the fact that he went from civilian to war leader so seemingly easily. I mean, I love Doug Flutie but if Al Qaeda conquered North America I wouldn't exactly follow him into battle.

My second suspect is Tigh. I don't think he and Ellen ever had children, despite all the irresponsible, angry sex they've had in their lifetime. And he's the most rabidly anti-Cylon of the crew.

Darthphere
01-22-2007, 05:57 PM
I agree. It helps explain his prodigious athletic ability, and the fact that he went from civilian to war leader so seemingly easily. I mean, I love Doug Flutie but if Al Qaeda conquered North America I wouldn't exactly follow him into battle.

My second suspect is Tigh. I don't think he and Ellen ever had children, despite all the irresponsible, angry sex they've had in their lifetime. And he's the most rabidly anti-Cylon of the crew.

But he has a backstory.

Speedball
01-22-2007, 06:02 PM
But he has a backstory.
Sam has a backstory as well.
But his doesn't go back 40 years to the first Cylon war like Saul's does.
Saul could be a Cylon, but I highly doubt it.

Darthphere
01-22-2007, 06:04 PM
Sam has a backstory as well.
But his doesn't go back 40 years to the first Cylon war like Saul's does.
Saul could be a Cylon, but I highly doubt it.

Have we actually seen Sam's backstory like we have with Tigh? Didn't think so.:o

Fading
01-22-2007, 06:56 PM
Interesting point a bit back. Caprica Six could have ended up on Battlestar so later on she can help Baltar. Possibly she ends up acting like he refused to help them or something, maybe sacrificing herself to help him proving she does still love him. At the same time it would keep Baltar alive, but maybe only in a cell until he breaks free or something.

Evelisse
01-22-2007, 07:38 PM
The whole apologizing thing is a red herring. I can't remember one person D'Anna directly hurt, except for Baltar when she tortured him.

I wouldnt say hurt, but she did have that small talk with the Doctor on new caprica, when she mentioned the "all the blood looks the same" while jabbing at him with her pointer finger. He has seemed to always have a soft spot for the cylons he's incountered along the way, and him not getting sick when they came upon that cylon virus, could just be because him being immune, as to say the 5 are advanced.

Speedball
01-22-2007, 07:40 PM
Have we actually seen Sam's backstory like we have with Tigh? Didn't think so.:o
I was actually agreeing with you...

phoenixflight
01-23-2007, 07:36 PM
With all the talk of the Final Five, I found this pic from the upcoming January 28th episode "Taking A Break From All Your Worries". Can this be real or some sort of dream sequence???


http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4374/wtfbattlestar9eg.jpg

phoenixflight
01-23-2007, 07:41 PM
I missed the "Rapture" episode. Are they the "Final Five"?

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7233/finalfivebattlestrar3di.jpg

Speedball
01-23-2007, 07:56 PM
Yeah...
But I don't remember their faces being so clear...

phoenixflight
01-23-2007, 08:12 PM
Yeah...
But I don't remember their faces being so clear...

I'll post the much larger pic where the faces are much clearer, but still unrecognizable...at this point.

Darthphere
01-23-2007, 08:18 PM
I was actually agreeing with you...

Nobody told you to do that.:cmad:

phoenixflight
01-23-2007, 08:20 PM
Here is a much larger image...enjoy:

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9049/nup10166526946qc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Speedball
01-23-2007, 08:21 PM
I'll post the much larger pic where the faces are much clearer, but still unrecognizable...at this point.
please do.
The one on the right is much larger than the others...could it be...no...It couldn't be...

Speedball
01-23-2007, 08:21 PM
Here is a much larger image...click and enjoy:

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9344/nup10166526947lh.jpg
It's smaller now:wow:

Darthphere
01-23-2007, 08:22 PM
Well none of those are Adama, thats for sure.

Speedball
01-23-2007, 08:24 PM
Well none of those are Adama, thats for sure.
But the one on the right looks like the
CHIEF!

phoenixflight
01-23-2007, 08:25 PM
It's smaller now:wow:

Sorry, fixed it. Really large

Darthphere
01-23-2007, 08:26 PM
I can't tell from that pic either.

Darthphere
01-23-2007, 08:26 PM
The 2nd guy kind of looks like Anders.

Speedball
01-23-2007, 08:28 PM
The 2nd guy kind of looks like Anders.
Yep..
and the guy one the LEFT looks like Tyrol, not the guy all the way to the right.
Or they could just be stand-ins.

Fading
01-23-2007, 08:29 PM
Is that a real pic? If it is it looks like it was taken while they weren't filming or the bright lights on the final 5 were added digitally and this was a pre-digital shot that got leaked. Well it more or less gave it away to me lol. I can't tell the other 3, but -

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/PsychoManCB/BSGspoiler.jpg

Lol, atleast it makes sense. Chief knew instinctively how to decypher the ruin text and had an episode where he freaked out and thought he was one. Then there's Starbuck drawing that temple drawling 'since she was a kid'.

Fading
01-23-2007, 08:56 PM
BTW the above is still a guess, for all we know the actors just stood in for the final 5 :).

From the looks of those pics tho Baltar isn't one. The guy on the left has about his height but not the facial structure. The girl in the middle just looks flat out new. It's possible her and the guy on the left could be new ppl we haven't seen, or haven't been introduced yet. The second guy on the left could be Anders, I can see that. Which would be weird if both Starbuck and Anders were Cylons, with a crazy Cylon after her already.

Donnie Darko
01-23-2007, 11:55 PM
Is that a real pic? If it is it looks like it was taken while they weren't filming or the bright lights on the final 5 were added digitally and this was a pre-digital shot that got leaked. Well it more or less gave it away to me lol. I can't tell the other 3, but -

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/PsychoManCB/BSGspoiler.jpg

Lol, atleast it makes sense. Chief knew instinctively how to decypher the ruin text and had an episode where he freaked out and thought he was one. Then there's Starbuck drawing that temple drawling 'since she was a kid'.

the pic you have for the Chief looks like someone else I've seen... could Dwight Schrute be a Cylon?

Speedball
01-23-2007, 11:56 PM
the pic you have for the Chief looks like someone else I've seen... could Dwight Schrute be a Cylon?
Look at the guy all the way to the left though.

Donnie Darko
01-23-2007, 11:58 PM
am I the only person that thinks maybe the people in these pics were actually just stand-ins and not the actual final five?

zanos
01-24-2007, 05:22 AM
Man this show is awful. At least during season one there was actually some action to drown out all the other ridiculousness. But now I feel like I'm watching a crappy soap opera every week. Cancel this garbage and bring back SG-1!

chosen1
01-24-2007, 05:46 AM
Man this show is awful. At least during season one there was actually some action to drown out all the other ridiculousness. But now I feel like I'm watching a crappy soap opera every week. Cancel this garbage and bring back SG-1!


Blasphemy!

Darthphere
01-24-2007, 08:50 AM
Man this show is awful. At least during season one there was actually some action to drown out all the other ridiculousness. But now I feel like I'm watching a crappy soap opera every week. Cancel this garbage and bring back SG-1!

Translation: Not enough 'splosions!:wow: :wow: :wow:

Superfreak
01-24-2007, 10:26 AM
Here is a much larger image...enjoy:

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9049/nup10166526946qc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I don't think the one on the far right (#5 from the left) is the chief.

But the one who is pointing (#2 from the left), when I took my IE zoom upto 400%, I think it looks like anders.

#4 from the left, and #1, you can see their whole faces, ithey are not hidden at all, and I don't recognize them

#3 from the left makes me think Katie Sackoff, it's the smile on her face. But I also see brunette under the hood

Donnie Darko
01-24-2007, 10:34 AM
I'm just gonna stick with my guns that these are not the actual actors playing the final five, just stand-ins for the scene where we didn't see any faces

KenK
01-24-2007, 10:54 AM
I'm just gonna stick with my guns that these are not the actual actors playing the final five, just stand-ins for the scene where we didn't see any faces

I agree. I'm not seeing any resemblence. And in the episode, no part of any of their faces was ever visible.

chosen1
01-24-2007, 11:00 AM
second from the left can anyone say Crashdown.

Speedball
01-24-2007, 06:47 PM
second from the left can anyone say Crashdown.
That would be AWESOME!
He was one of my favorite characters.

Speedball
01-28-2007, 11:12 PM
JESUS!!!
That was one intense episode.
I loved it when Roslin got really angry and started screaming. That was just...Beautiful.

KenK
01-29-2007, 07:04 AM
JESUS!!!
That was one intense episode.
I loved it when Roslin got really angry and started screaming. That was just...Beautiful.


I was wondering if that was a hallucenation Baltar was experiencing, at first, because I've never seen Roslin that verbally angry before. It was frightening.

I'm beginning to think Gaeta is one of the five. Don't ask me why, it's just a feeling I'm having.

The Starbuck/Apollo stuff is getting on my last nerve. Even if they don't end up together, they owe it to Sam and Dee to end their sham marriages. If either Dee or Starbuck gets pregnant, it's gonna be an unholy mess.

Anyone else think the "bonus scene" between her and Six after the show could have easily gone into the episode?

Superfreak
01-29-2007, 08:22 AM
yeah, last night was good. But I'm getting a little bored. It's time for some space battle action.

secondly, the relationship nonsense is getting on my nerves now. They've overmilked the Apollo, Dee, Anders, Starbuck love square. I really don't care where that goes now, just as long as it Stops NOW.

It was the batlar tangent that really saved the show last night. Everything baltar is mint, and I thank mr. callis for that. He's an insanely good actor.

what's with the 2 week break (is it superbowl)?

Substance D
01-29-2007, 08:25 AM
yeah, last night was good. But I'm getting a little bored. It's time for some space battle action.

secondly, the relationship nonsense is getting on my nerves now. They've overmilked the Apollo, Dee, Anders, Starbuck love square. I really don't care where that goes now, just as long as it Stops NOW.

It was the batlar tangent that really saved the show last night. Everything baltar is mint, and I thank mr. callis for that. He's an insanely good actor.

what's with the 2 week break (is it superbowl)?

I agree with everything you says.

KenK
01-29-2007, 08:48 AM
what's with the 2 week break (is it superbowl)?

Makes sense. The ratings are suffering enough without airing a new episode against the biggest sporting event of the year.

Darthphere
01-29-2007, 10:31 AM
yeah, last night was good. But I'm getting a little bored. It's time for some space battle action.

Ah, the cry of the ADD!:oldrazz:

Superfreak
01-29-2007, 11:21 AM
Ah, the cry of the ADD!:oldrazz:

it's been almost 10 episodes, i'm in withdrawal

huskerwebhead
01-29-2007, 02:52 PM
it's been almost 10 episodes, i'm in withdrawal

Just rewatch that episode in your avy. I DVR'd it and watch it from time to time. It ass kicks any other TV show of late.

Nightwing
01-29-2007, 08:00 PM
Very good episode.

Zenien
01-30-2007, 11:26 PM
JESUS!!!
That was one intense episode.
I loved it when Roslin got really angry and started screaming. That was just...Beautiful.

The entire Baltar/Geata scene stole the show imo.

CyberFaust
01-31-2007, 11:20 AM
Baltar lives!!! :D

Lurk
01-31-2007, 11:22 AM
So, what does Baltar know about Gaeta that caused him to flip out?

Darthphere
01-31-2007, 11:26 AM
Gaeta is a cylon....really.

Substance D
01-31-2007, 11:31 AM
So, what does Baltar know about Gaeta that caused him to flip out?

that gaeta is gae.

CyberFaust
01-31-2007, 12:51 PM
exactly!!
who knows what happened in that office with them alone :)

Speedball
01-31-2007, 09:29 PM
Has anyone seen the new comercial on Sci-Fi for the show?
It says one will die, another will find their destiny, and another will find Earth.
The dying part doesn't meean they'll stay dead though.

Superfreak
02-01-2007, 06:22 AM
Has anyone seen the new comercial on Sci-Fi for the show?
It says one will die, another will find their destiny, and another will find Earth.
The dying part doesn't meean they'll stay dead though.

you are about a month late here bud

LadyVader
02-01-2007, 06:30 AM
They turned Gaeta into a psycho. :(

Superfreak
02-01-2007, 10:08 AM
About the relationship stuff (chosen, you'll like this)

if Lee is Rick Hunter, and Starbuck is Lynn Minmay, then Dee is Hayes, and leaving Anders as Lynn Kyle.

I say Starbuck and Lee don't get together, and that this relationship nonsense is over I think that's what will happen. Based on what happened in Robotech.

LadyVader
02-01-2007, 11:08 AM
I'm get the same feeling. Besides... Lee and Kara would just be too intense together and eventually the flame would burn out. :) They should stay with their nice, safe better halves.

Speedball
02-01-2007, 11:20 AM
^ Yeah.
I hope the latest episode was the final one about their relationship. I wanna see Kara figure out what her destiny is from now on.

chosen1
02-01-2007, 11:22 AM
starbuck reminds me more of dana sterling bucking authority and all...





"Call it a crisis in leadership." -- Proposition Joe

biggles2000uk
02-02-2007, 09:04 AM
bump

Kangellove13
02-09-2007, 04:09 PM
battle star is a really sool show, at first I was kind of hesttant to watch but as soon as I did I got into it, and I already hated starbuck, she is annoying in every dimension. But either than that I can't wait to see who the five cylons are, i'm just iching to find out.

Speedball
02-11-2007, 09:47 PM
Oh no they didn't?!

Darthphere
02-11-2007, 09:48 PM
Oh yes the did!

acedrake
02-11-2007, 09:52 PM
When did this show became The Helo Show? HOnestly I cant stand how the show is making Helo as the most outstanding, lovable, courageous, strong, sincere, smart and the best character of them all. Hate the phucker, cant stand him, and if this show continues this trend, saddly I will have to leave.

Darthphere
02-11-2007, 09:53 PM
When did this show became The Helo Show? HOnestly I cant stand how the show is making Helo as the most outstanding, lovable, courageous, strong, sincere, smart and the best character of them all. Hate the phucker, cant stand him, and if this show continues this trend, saddly I will have to leave.

I still like Helo, though a lot less now.

Speedball
02-11-2007, 09:58 PM
Oh yes the did!
No...they didn't:woot:

Pink Ranger
02-11-2007, 09:58 PM
The last episode was a whole lot of "meh" to me. It reminded me of some "issue of the week" thing they'd do on Star Trek Voyager.

Darthphere
02-11-2007, 09:58 PM
So this was Darfur?

Pink Ranger
02-11-2007, 10:11 PM
So this was Darfur?

Could be, could also be about Jehovah's Witnesses, HIV and AIDS treatment, Dr. Mengele, about a million things.

KenK
02-12-2007, 06:57 AM
I'm starting to agree with everyone saying they need to get back to some space dogfights!! There's not enough action anymore. But I did like that Helo got this episode to shine. The Lee/Kara thing was getting out of hand.

Superfreak
02-12-2007, 07:14 AM
agreed, a little action would cheer me up.

The helo episode was good, but not the right episode to show after a 2 week break. Hopefully things will pick up soon.

yenaled
02-12-2007, 11:37 AM
Disappointing episode, with cancellation rumours swirling they can't afford to do episodes like that..

Pink Ranger
02-12-2007, 12:03 PM
Disappointing episode, with cancellation rumours swirling they can't afford to do episodes like that..

The problem is, I suspect they're doing more episodes like this because some a-hole NBC-Universal executive told them to do it to avoid cancellation. That normally happens to critically acclaimed, low-rated shows (that destroyed my favorite police drama of all time, Homicide: Life on the Street).

zanos
02-12-2007, 12:10 PM
agreed, a little action would cheer me up.

The helo episode was good, but not the right episode to show after a 2 week break. Hopefully things will pick up soon.

It will. Here's a quick synopsis of the next 2 upcoming episodes. If this doesn't you give you butterflies in your stomach in anticipation nothing will!

"Dirty Hands"
Amid a heated labor dispute, Tyrol asks the imprisoned Baltar for advice. Seelix becomes involved and reveals that she may have romantic feelings for Tyrol.

"Maelstrom"
Kara's past comes back to haunt her when Adama has doubts about her fitness for duty.

KenK
02-12-2007, 03:17 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31565

No official word from Sci-Fi, but Aint It Cool says a source at TV-Guide.com is confirming a 13-episode fourth season for Galactica.

Darthphere
02-12-2007, 03:18 PM
Better than nothing.

Speedball
02-12-2007, 04:20 PM
Wait...So now there are only 11 active cylon models?
All of the Number 3 models have been put into storage.
WTF?!!!

Spidey Rules 2
02-12-2007, 04:45 PM
And I thought the episode was going to be about Baltar's trial and the protesting about wanting him hanged instead :whatever:
Now, can someone tell me exactly why he is in jail. They can't honestly think that he helped the cylons during the occupation of New Caprica. They had to know that the he became a puppet of the cylons, with absolute no power what's so ever. How can he be accountable for that? He either did what he was told or he would die. How can he help the people if he was dead? Now if it's because the president saw him talking with Six BEFORE the attack, then I'd agree with that.

Speedball
02-12-2007, 04:50 PM
And I thought the episode was going to be about Baltar's trial and the protesting about wanting him hanged. Now, can someone tell me exactly why he is in jail. They can't honestly think they helped the cylons during the occupation of New Caprica. They had to know that the he became a puppet of the cylons, with absolute no power what's so ever. How can he be accountable for that? He either did what he was told or he would die. How can he help the people if he was dead. Now if it's because the president saw him talking with Six BEFORE the attack, then I'd agree with that.That could be what the Caprica and Athena scene was for.
She could prove that he was innocent.
I still don't think he should be put to death.
He unknowingly helped them in the beginning, which he revealed.

Superfreak
02-13-2007, 07:07 AM
And I thought the episode was going to be about Baltar's trial and the protesting about wanting him hanged instead :whatever:
Now, can someone tell me exactly why he is in jail. They can't honestly think that he helped the cylons during the occupation of New Caprica. They had to know that the he became a puppet of the cylons, with absolute no power what's so ever. How can he be accountable for that? He either did what he was told or he would die. How can he help the people if he was dead? Now if it's because the president saw him talking with Six BEFORE the attack, then I'd agree with that.


leaders can't surrender, on behalf of their people, without their permission. Pretty simple I think

Angry Sentinel
02-13-2007, 08:15 AM
And I thought the episode was going to be about Baltar's trial and the protesting about wanting him hanged instead :whatever:
Now, can someone tell me exactly why he is in jail. They can't honestly think that he helped the cylons during the occupation of New Caprica. They had to know that the he became a puppet of the cylons, with absolute no power what's so ever. How can he be accountable for that? He either did what he was told or he would die. How can he help the people if he was dead? Now if it's because the president saw him talking with Six BEFORE the attack, then I'd agree with that. Either you missed a lot, or you don't have a very good understanding of how a Democratic government is supposed to work.

1) As one poster mentioned already, he did not have the power to surrender.. a general assembly has to do that(just like with a declaration of War).

2) He did work with the cylons on several occasions... now let me help you to understand clearly... ANY and ALL collusion with the enemy during a time of war is considered treason. When Baltar accepted office he swore under oath to protect the colonies and NEVER betray THEIR needs... not his own. And incase this isn't clear for you, that means he would DIE before going along with anything they wanted to do. HE TOOK AN OATH THAT HE WOULD DO THIS.

3) Zarek, his Vice President, resigned and was jailed and beaten rather than go along with Baltar and the Cylons, what does that tell you.

4) Have you forgotten that he KNOWINGLY signed a decree to execute his own charges, simply because they threatened to kill him if he didn't. Again he swore an oath that he would die before doing such a thing... did he hold up his end of the bargain?

5) I would keep going, but I'm know no-one cares this much. :cwink:

Pink Ranger
02-13-2007, 12:18 PM
A little history lesson here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petain

Superfreak
02-19-2007, 07:12 AM
last night was another good character episode.

but it's getting boring. TIME FOR ACTION PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Darthphere
02-19-2007, 10:03 AM
Solid episode, the Adama clan really is one ****ed up family. The scene with the rescue was oh so exciting. I was hoping Callie would die though.

Pink Ranger
02-19-2007, 11:52 AM
Even though this could have been written off as a Star Trek-type disaster episode, I actually did like it. The disaster scenario was really gripping, and we learned some dark things about Adama's past.

Out of curiousity, did they ever establish Lee and Zack as having a sister as well, or is that just the old seri

HR-PUFF&STUFF
02-19-2007, 03:12 PM
Even though this could have been written off as a Star Trek-type disaster episode, I actually did like it. The disaster scenario was really gripping, and we learned some dark things about Adama's past.

Out of curiousity, did they ever establish Lee and Zack as having a sister as well, or is that just the old seri
nothing about a sister.

Superfreak
02-19-2007, 04:45 PM
nothing about a sister.

no daughter, just the 2 sons. I'm pretty sure he said that he always wanted a girl, and that 3 was a nice round number, when he was spending time with Kat on her death bed.

Zenien
02-20-2007, 12:48 AM
When Adama got out of bed I thought it was Starbuck sleeping beside him. Was that just a figment of his wife of wtf happened in the scene?

ariellem
02-20-2007, 08:38 PM
When Adama got out of bed I thought it was Starbuck sleeping beside him. Was that just a figment of his wife of wtf happened in the scene?

I thought the exact same thing, even after rewinding and rewatching. Hubby swears he saw an arm on the bed when Tigh looked over; I couldn't tell. Maybe Adama gets a babe once a year on his anniversary???

The rest of the ep fit with the figment-of-his-imagination theory.

chosen1
02-24-2007, 02:18 PM
Commander Adamas birthday today:yay:

CyberFaust
02-24-2007, 02:25 PM
Commander Adamas birthday today:yay:

may he have many more! :D

Darthphere
02-24-2007, 03:11 PM
Admiral.

Zenien
02-26-2007, 03:53 AM
Anyone seen the newest episode?

I'm glad they're going back to 13 episodes per season personally. Compare Season 1 to Season 2 and 3 and the last two have had a lot of filler episodes. In Season 1 every episode was tightly produced and served to move all the stories along.

Superfreak
02-26-2007, 07:15 AM
yeah, I saw it.

Even Season 2 had less filler nonsense than this year. Both Season 1 and 2 had a plot that moved forward at a pace that did not stagnate the overall narrative.

This season however, ever since the mid season cliffhanger, which wasn't as good as those that came before, we've been bombarded with these single serving episodes that go no where.

Now, I'm all for single serving episodes. I prefer the major ongoing narrative. But single serving isn't bad. Especially on BSG.

So I'll say this. The single serving episodes since the break have been very good. But they are not the reason that regular viewers return week after week to watch.

Dear Mr. Moore and Eick. YOU ARE KILLING YOUR OWN SHOW. Please give the narrative a little kick in the guts, and get this fantastic show back on track.

(I seem to think all this character driven single serving episodes were a result of the Battle in episode 4 of this season, me suspect that the idiot producers blew far too much of their budget on it)



and another question: Where the frack is bulldog? When they brought him on the show, the blog stated that he would be a semi regular, bad ass fighter pilot. We haven't seen him since his introductory episode.

Darthphere
02-26-2007, 10:34 AM
Whats up with all these Chief episodes, does anybody even care about Chief? But its always good to see Adama be badass. I have no doubts he wouldve shot Cally.

Also, the people on Galactica are a lot more stupid than I thought, I mean, theyre openly listenting to Baltar and his ramblings, wasnt he like public enemy number 1?

Superfreak
02-26-2007, 02:10 PM
I think it's because the chief is a cylon. He's got to be, otherwise, the whole seires wouldn't revolve around him at the moment. Ever since the midseason break, it's been all about him.

I think he'll be a cylon, after they paint him as the champion of the people etc. make him such a good guy, friend to all... then make him a cylon.

That's the vibe I get

Donnie Darko
02-26-2007, 03:14 PM
he also had a pretty big story arc in the first season, so maybe they just want to shine some light back on him

Speedball
02-27-2007, 12:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdmo_KCsutI&mode=related&search=
This is a Season 3 gag reel.
It's hilarious, but has a lot of cussing, so be careful.

Superfreak
02-27-2007, 06:52 AM
he also had a pretty big story arc in the first season, so maybe they just want to shine some light back on him

what was that? The only thing I remember was the crash on Kobol. But that was a joint arc, there were other characters there who were also dealing with life.

this half of season 3 has almost quite literally been the chief show.

tb_fan6782
02-27-2007, 07:05 AM
Which may lead into the chief being a cylon. I wonder if President Roslin will find out during the many hours of sex they'll have.

Donnie Darko
02-27-2007, 11:36 AM
what was that? The only thing I remember was the crash on Kobol. But that was a joint arc, there were other characters there who were also dealing with life.

this half of season 3 has almost quite literally been the chief show.

I mean his love story with Sharon. There was also an entire episode based around him and his suicide nightmare during season 2.

GhostPoet
02-28-2007, 01:50 PM
hmm...so, i've decided to this this show another shot...I was dying of bordom during the first season...so I downloaded the season 1 season finalle off of itunes...

I hope I can get into it this time... :/ Do the Cylons even show up much? It seems like they rarely make appearances so they really don't seem threatening.

chosen1
02-28-2007, 03:16 PM
hmm...so, i've decided to this this show another shot...I was dying of bordom during the first season...so I downloaded the season 1 season finalle off of itunes...

I hope I can get into it this time... :/ Do the Cylons even show up much? It seems like they rarely make appearances so they really don't seem threatening.

How did you get bored during season 1. It was perfect:huh:

Superfreak
03-01-2007, 09:16 AM
How did you get bored during season 1. It was perfect:huh:


no, yah gotta make it through the first 9 episodes, to epi 10.


so, I'm in canada (thank the gods that sci fi and space have matched up their schedules). But every now and then, we don't get a preview. We get a general season 3 preview. Was there a real preview for next week?

Superfreak
03-01-2007, 10:54 AM
HEy supafreak how ya been.

What do you think of Galactica Latley?

I'm lovin it

it's been good, every episode has be rock solid. But... at it's later timeslot, I pass out about half way through. That's why I need some action. Some explosions and stuff to keep me from nodding off.

Speedball
03-04-2007, 10:04 PM
Is anyone else crying right now?

Darthphere
03-04-2007, 10:11 PM
Not really. Obvious.

Speedball
03-04-2007, 10:15 PM
Not really. Obvious.
So what if it was obvious.
It's still the death of a beloved character.
But I expect to see her in a white suit in a few episodes, if you know what I mean.

Speedball
03-04-2007, 10:27 PM
I think the raider picked her up, because Vipers don't have parachute's when the pilots eject, which is why Lee didn't see her.
I think the next time we will see her is on the Cylon homeworld.

Darthphere
03-04-2007, 11:20 PM
I think she's dead.

Caliber
03-05-2007, 12:37 AM
So what if it was obvious.
It's still the death of a beloved character.
But I expect to see her in a white suit in a few episodes, if you know what I mean.

Does it confirm anything or is it still guessing about her being a cyclon?

Speedball
03-05-2007, 01:08 AM
It's still hinting that she is a cylon. Though we'll have to see in the next few weeks.
The CGI tonight was amazing. I hope there's more of it in the next episodes.

KenK
03-05-2007, 06:58 AM
OH, MY GOD!! IS SHE DEAD?!?!? I fell asleep!! And when I woke up, the credits were rolling! I would have stayed up for the midnight replay, but I fell asleep during the Dresden Files replay, and realized I was fighting a losing battle, and officially when to bed at midnight.

Fading
03-05-2007, 09:41 AM
Well I have a feeling she'll come back, since you fell asleep I'll spoil it -

Basically she goes crazy and sees things the entire episode. She chooses to fly into some vortex that somewhat looks like the one from her dream minus the colors (It's just brown), and her ship is crushed with her in it, it explodes, and the Battlestar crew cries and it ends.

My ONLY real complaint is they have that seen where their talking about if one dies the other puts the pic on that clipboard, and then the "bonus" scene is about a flashback of her mouthing off to chief instead of Lee putting her pic on the wall which woulda been a perfect end to the episode.

Darthphere
03-05-2007, 09:43 AM
I just hate all this talk about her special destiny and ****, ok, where is it? :huh:

Superfreak
03-05-2007, 02:31 PM
Ok, last night, was meh. ever since the mid season break, I've been feeling like they dropped the ball. I mean, last nights episode: the preview for it stated, that 'this was the one episode that no fan could possibly miss'... NONSENSE. And I remember reading all about how this specific episode was supposed to be the boomba chronic (from articles and interviews with cast and what not). Well, it was far from that. Again, it was a good solid episode, but man was it boring.

All that aside:


Kara, not a cylon - maybe she'll end up with cylons, but I don't think she'll be one. Why? she had a mother (the one who broke starbuck) and starbuck was a child (I don't think cylons actually grow up from a childhood, as far as we've seen of course), the cylons already stole her ovaries (if she was a cylon, why would they that?)

Starbuck will find earth, i think that is her destiny (one of the three mentioned in the season 3.5 promos). The fact that she knows the mandala from childhood, and that it was on the temple of 5, which was the road sign to earth, Starbuck is the one to find earth. Moreover, it's been starbuck who is 'chosen' throughout, to lead humanity to earth (or atleast be an agent in that regard). She retrieved the arrow, she knew the mandala etc. Everything about Kara revolves around find earth. Atleast in her vague destiny ofcourse

Darthphere
03-05-2007, 04:19 PM
False memories.

Fading
03-05-2007, 05:21 PM
Possibly.

I just have a bad feeling their making her arc up on the spot to spike ratings which could hurt it. I mean if she turns out to be human, and suddenly appears with a physical body back on Galactica after being crushed in that vortex, then it makes it feel less real and far more sci-fi, which is kind of what the series has tried to avoid (a more realistic feeling sci-fi series). If she turns out to be one of the final Cylons with implanted memories, well I could get on board with it.

I just wonder why they keep saying, "This has all happened before, and will happen again.". I mean the obvious is that the Battlestar universe repeats itself, or atleast repeats the actions of humans migrating to Earth while Cylons chase them.

Overall though I still like BSG, but it just feels like it's turned from an action drama into a straight drama. Part of what made it a good series was the mix of action and story, and the urgency to avoid the cylons who haven't been seen, let alone chase Galactica since they left their temporary home on New Caprica.

Superfreak
03-05-2007, 07:29 PM
False memories.


what about her fingers broken in childhood. Doesn't the mere idea that she had a childhood, destroy the idea behind her being a cylon

well, they said 1 would die, 1 would find earth, and 1 would be a cylon. So far, we haven't seen any of that yet. Finale could be a good one.





... here's a thought, maybe they just killed Starbuck. I mean they killed Roy Fokker half way through his show

Speedball
03-05-2007, 09:50 PM
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2007/03/battlestar_gala.html
Just found this.
Looks light we might see a reimagined "Ship of Lights" in this series.

Superfreak
03-08-2007, 06:59 AM
I think the raider picked her up, because Vipers don't have parachute's when the pilots eject, which is why Lee didn't see her.
I think the next time we will see her is on the Cylon homeworld.

sorry, was just flippin through the posts: This is wrong speedball. Vipers and their pilots do have parachutes. But they don't need them in space (which is why lee didn't use his when he got shot down in the blackbird). But Kara had a parachute when she crashed on the desert planet in the first season. They have parachutes, but they are rarely in the gravity well, and atmosphere of a planet that would actually make them useful.

Bastila
03-08-2007, 11:11 AM
So I don't know if it has finished out there yet.
But the epsiode that was on this week was good, the whole finding food and jumping though radtion, but only thing was Kat died, I liked her, I didn't think they would kill a character off really. Sad she was pretty bad ass.

TheDemon'sHead
03-16-2007, 01:17 PM
She's a Cylon. The reason that the Cylons on Caprica were stealing her ovaries is because they didn't know she was a Cylon since she's one of the final five.

The last two episodes of this season better be good though. Ever since the "Collaborators" episode the shows been somewhat weak.

Speedball
03-18-2007, 10:13 PM
That was a great episode this week. Next week looks insane. Anders, Torie, and Tigh are obviously 3 of the final Five Cylons. Anders says that he is in the preview.

Fading
03-18-2007, 11:45 PM
That was a great episode this week. Next week looks insane. Anders, Torie, and Tigh are obviously 3 of the final Five Cylons. Anders says that he is in the preview.

I agree 100% on Anders at the least. I mean it was clearly his voice, and he said "Yes, we are Cylons". I have a feeling from the look of it that Baltar is found guilty by him slapping the papers and being led away in cuffs :woot:. Which sucks that Apollo had to ruin his credit, and possibly his marriage, and his relationship with his dad to defend Baltar, if Baltar loses.

One thing I don't like as much is the "Adama regime" deal. I mean I know they try to closely resemble current day politics, but the old man is what got them through all they've been through (well teamwork, but he was a heck of a leader), and Lee's been the moral compass at times and not just saying he's one and done some heroic things. Not to sound political myself, but I can't see how they resemble the "Bush regime" in the least, Lee isn't like Bush jr., and Adama isn't like Bush sr. I guess I just wish they'd drop that one little bit their slowly building up (Baltar's lawyer mentioned how everyones talking about the Adama regime near the end of the show).

Evelisse
03-19-2007, 12:50 AM
I liked the episode and next weeks looks great.

TheDemon'sHead
03-20-2007, 12:16 PM
I'm looking forward to this coming episode. Especially since not a whole lot has happened since the break. Well...

Starbuck died and I REALLY want to know if she's one of the final five. I'm not sure about Tigh, Anders and Torie though. I feel it was kind of blatant to throw in that voiceover of "We are Cylons."

Darthphere
03-20-2007, 12:35 PM
Man, they better not end on a cliffhanger.

TheDemon'sHead
03-20-2007, 01:07 PM
but you know they will.

Speedball
03-20-2007, 01:31 PM
Man, they better not end on a cliffhanger.
Of course they will. That's the way they always end.

Superfreak
03-21-2007, 08:17 AM
ok, so I finally got round to watching crossroads part 1. Great epi.

so what's with the music that Tigh and Anders can hear? And is Torrie's wonkyness related. Is Tigh a cylon? wouldn't that be brilliant

Pink Ranger
03-21-2007, 11:36 AM
I agree with an above poster that Tigh, Torrie or Anders are not cylons, because there's too much obvious foreshadowing in the last episode and that's not the show's style at all. I think Torrie's just suffering from professional burnout and she and Anders are going to have a mutually destructive affair, but that's it. And I think Tigh is just going nuts because of something the Cylons did to him, like how Baltar hallucinates about the Six.

Superfreak
03-21-2007, 12:28 PM
I agree with an above poster that Tigh, Torrie or Anders are not cylons, because there's too much obvious foreshadowing in the last episode and that's not the show's style at all. I think Torrie's just suffering from professional burnout and she and Anders are going to have a mutually destructive affair, but that's it. And I think Tigh is just going nuts because of something the Cylons did to him, like how Baltar hallucinates about the Six.


but what about the music. It seems to be driving Tigh mad, but he's not the only one hearing it, as shown by Anders in the early part of the episode. So is there something to that.

Now lets just say Tigh is a cylon, it would explain why D'anna apologized to one of the final five. Maybe for removing his eye? Just a thought.

Anyhow, loved the scene with Apollo vs. The President.

Clearly, there is some new (or old, depending on how you look at it) mysterious force at work. Bringing back the president's cancer , so could we a last be entering the realm of explanation concerning the book of Pithia, the prophecy of caravan of the stars, and the exodus of the 12 colonies, and lastly the search for earth, and much of the myth that surrounds that.

Morgoth
03-21-2007, 12:37 PM
I turned my back on this show when I heard Starbuck was going to be a woman, I'm sick of characters getting changed like this, but then I watched that recap show on Sci-Fi, I got it from a comic shop, and it looks good, but I don't have Sci-Fi anymore since you have to pay for it now :cmad: , so I have missed alot, but I'd like to see it someday. :word:

Darthphere
03-21-2007, 12:42 PM
Lee Adama, rebel without a cause.

ROOR
03-21-2007, 01:42 PM
Of course they will. That's the way they always end.

Not only that, but they always end on dramatic, season changing cliff hangers that seem to guide where the next season is headed. I know they do this on a lot of shows, but them seem to pull off bigger cliff hangers, and more drastic changes than a lot of other shows can pull off.

As far as the next scenes..
I was thinking that the we are cylons thing really referred more to them being like, I don't know partially cylon, like maybe they have a cylon implant or something. I mean if you think about it, Anders and Tigh were both captured and held at some point. What if they did something to the people they imprisoned on new Caprica. Just a thought. I just doubt it would be something so simple as they're part of the final five, they wouldn't make it easy and if they did, they wouldn't have included it in a preview they would have saved it for the last 5 minutes.

TheDemon'sHead
03-21-2007, 01:49 PM
Oh and I think Baltar is going to be found innocent. There's no way, No Way, that they would find him guilty. Because if they did, then he'd die and they're not about to get rid of Baltar.

Of course, I would have said this about Starbuck this time last year too! But I think she'll be the cliffhanger. She'll reappear or something.

Dr Lee
03-21-2007, 02:06 PM
Well Ain't It Cool News had a detailed spoilery review of the final episode. This is all i can remember from it.....

MAJOR SPOILERS BELOW!!!!!

Baltar is cleared..... And Adama had the deciding vote that cleared him.
The five who are hearing things go off in a raptor towards the nebula...

Where they meet Starbuck

Fading
03-21-2007, 03:36 PM
Well Ain't It Cool News had a detailed spoilery review of the final episode. This is all i can remember from it.....

MAJOR SPOILERS BELOW!!!!!

Baltar is cleared..... And Adama had the deciding vote that cleared him.
The five who are hearing things go off in a raptor towards the nebula...

Where they meet Starbuck


I can see the Baltar deal, and it can just be that they mislead us with the episode previews of him being led away and all as just him going back in his cell. The five hearing things could be Starbuck reaching out, I can see that as well.

One or all 5 of those you mentioned have to be revealed to be Cylons. The preview for this season said, one will die, one will lead the way to Earth, and one will be revealed as a Cylon. One had died, heck if you count physical death (even though I have no doubt we'll see Starbuck again) then technically 2 died, and Starbuck will probably somehow show the way to Earth. One still hasn't been revealed as a Cylon, so it has to happen soon, and Anders voice saying "We are Cylons" just makes so much sense. As ppl have been pointing out in this thread he just happened to survive the attack and become a natural leader, he's a natural athlete and seemed to be drawn to Starbuck even when pushed away with another Cylon being in love with her too.

Tigh will probably be revealed too, and it would be a great twist. He's constantly drunk, his entire character revolves around hate for anything Cylon, and for him to turn out to be one. Also his character has been on a constant downward spiral this season, with no real motivation to even live it seems. Also it would be great to see the look on Adama's face when he realizes his most trusted friend is his worst enemy.

Speedball
03-21-2007, 06:18 PM
I have a feeling that Ellen Tigh could one of the five Cylons. Tigh and her were married for how long, and never had kids.

ord0g
03-22-2007, 05:51 AM
Good news is abound. Looks like BSG was picked up for a further 9 eps for season 4, which brings the episode count to 22 next season. Not to mention talk of a special on the Pegasus after the Cylon attack and also one to bridge the gap between S3 and S4.

yenaled
03-22-2007, 06:38 AM
So if you hear the music you are a Cylon? Maybe.

Superfreak
03-22-2007, 06:50 AM
I have a feeling that Ellen Tigh could one of the five Cylons. Tigh and her were married for how long, and never had kids.


well, that logic works for col. tigh aswell does it not.

TheDemon'sHead
03-22-2007, 09:19 AM
I'd like to see a Pegasus special. Webisodes this summer too would be nice.
Does anyone know if the 'Caprica' series is going forward?

I don't think Ellen's a Cylon. Tigh on the other hand... that would be interesting. Unlike Anders or Torie...

Pink Ranger
03-22-2007, 11:46 AM
I still think Anders would make a good Cylon. They need at least one "hot guy" Cylon or the whole concept would be a bit sexist.

TheDemon'sHead
03-22-2007, 12:30 PM
What 'Al' from Quantum Leap isn't sexy?

ROOR
03-22-2007, 12:34 PM
Good news is abound. Looks like BSG was picked up for a further 9 eps for season 4, which brings the episode count to 22 next season. Not to mention talk of a special on the Pegasus after the Cylon attack and also one to bridge the gap between S3 and S4.

I read somewhere that if they got the extra 9 episodes that it would be the last season, so not sure if this is good news or not. I'll try to find the link.

TheDemon'sHead
03-22-2007, 02:41 PM
I don't know... four seasons sounds good to me. It's better than them dragging it out and the show just getting bland. If they are ending it after four seasons I'm down with that.

chosen1
03-23-2007, 07:53 AM
Does anyone know if the extended pegasus episode is available for download on a torrent site?

Superfreak
03-23-2007, 07:59 AM
ok, I can't wait for sunday.

I'm not as pumped for this finale, as I was for the others (season, and miidseason). But after checking out some spoilers, and some previews. It's starting to get to me.

check out youtube, under the search of Battlestar and Crossroads. There are a couple of previews, and two, minute long scenes:

The first is...
just a nice scene b/w rosalin and adama the morning before the verdict it seems. It's just one of those little relationship scenes

the second is...

a clip of Baltar being spirited away by some of his fanatics introduced in crossroads part 1. It ends with 6 having a dream about the opera house, she is with Baltar who is holding Hera. They turn, and the Five are standing on the balcony, and there's some really creepy coral music blaring

check it out, it's pretty crazy




oh yeah, another thing, check this out, some bsg fanatics decontructing episodes piece by piece if you're into that sort of thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p60t5omTTr0

Pink Ranger
03-23-2007, 08:43 PM
What 'Al' from Quantum Leap isn't sexy?

Oh yeah, I forgot about him and Ziggy. Hubba hubba. :p

Superfreak
03-25-2007, 02:39 PM
found this spoiler at http://www.patriotresource.com/bg/insights/spoilers/season3/319.html

Episode 19: Crossroads, Part 2; March 25, 2007
3/22/07: The final lines spoken in the finale are, "I've been to Earth. I know where it is. And I'm going to take us there." From Ausiello

Speedball
03-25-2007, 10:01 PM
I think I just pissed myself.

Pink Ranger
03-25-2007, 10:02 PM
Wow. Trippy episode. They packed a whole season's worth of plot developments into one hour. Next October can't come fast enough.

huskerwebhead
03-25-2007, 10:04 PM
Returns in 2008!?!?!?!? Are they kidding me???!

Superfreak
03-25-2007, 10:05 PM
well, that rumor panned out to be true.

Wow. Not the heart pounding cliffhangers that I've come to expect from BSG. But Wow. The whole episode was fantastic.

Apollo on the stand, brilliant. It's the first time in the series where a character has layed out everything that has happened, and put it into perspective. I was impressed.

Where will the music take us? There were only 4 in the end. Does that mean the 'who' is the fifth

And the 'suprise' ending. Very cool, but how did 'who' get to where they were? And how did 'who' end up in between the lines of what looks to be a humongous battle?

And it seems that they aren't very far from where they are trying to get too.

Speedball
03-25-2007, 10:05 PM
Wow. Trippy episode. They packed a whole season's worth of plot developments into one hour. Next October can't come fast enough.
Nope we gotta wait til 2008 for next season.
At least we get the 2 hour film to tide us over.

Speedball
03-25-2007, 10:08 PM
well, that rumor panned out to be true.

Wow. Not the heart pounding cliffhangers that I've come to expect from BSG. But Wow. The whole episode was fantastic.

Apollo on the stand, brilliant. It's the first time in the series where a character has layed out everything that has happened, and put it into perspective. I was impressed.

Where will the music take us? There were only 4 in the end. Does that mean the 'who' is the fifth

And the 'suprise' ending. Very cool, but how did 'who' get to where they were? And how did 'who' end up in between the lines of what looks to be a humongous battle?

And it seems that they aren't very far from where they are trying to get too.
I think "who" is either the fifth cylon, or they were taken by the Fleet of the Final Five Cylons to Earth, to prove to "who" that they aren't bad.
We never actually see the two fleets fighting. The Cylons could be for the Humans, instead of against them.

Evelisse
03-25-2007, 10:09 PM
2008 is just crazy far away, unacceptable. And great reveal on the 4 cylons, almost made it feel like the audience was in that room as the 5th cylon, like been fighting them this whole time, and now this, felt as confused as the other four in that room.

Evelisse
03-25-2007, 10:13 PM
2 hour movie?

Speedball
03-25-2007, 10:38 PM
Yep.
It's gonna be on TV first, then on DVD not to long afterwards.
It's gonna be about the Pegasus, at least according to this article.
http://tv.ign.com/articles/775/775022p1.html

Archangel
03-26-2007, 12:00 AM
Ok, so, the song pretty much confirmed that Bob Dylan is the final Cylon model.

Caliber
03-26-2007, 12:10 AM
2008 is just crazy far away, unacceptable. And great reveal on the 4 cylons, almost made it feel like the audience was in that room as the 5th cylon, like been fighting them this whole time, and now this, felt as confused as the other four in that room.

It was confusing throughout the whole episode with them. I had a feeling the Colonel was one. So how far are they away from earth?

Speedball
03-26-2007, 12:22 AM
Ok, so, the song pretty much confirmed that Bob Dylan is the final Cylon model.
I knew I heard that song before.
What's the title?

Evelisse
03-26-2007, 12:30 AM
They must have a very close bond with the humans on earth, the final five that is, seems to me only a human would pick that song to be picked up by the five. So starbuck, the final of the 5 or one more out there?

Fading
03-26-2007, 12:31 AM
Great episode, if only the entire season could have been like this :). The build up was good, they fit in so much without making it feel rushed, and the music playing and getting louder when all 4 of them were in the room was good too.

Just the thoughts for potential future scenes lol. I mean we could see Adama confronting a Tigh that has eventually accepted his Cylon-hood. The chief confronting his wife. Or drama from the Galactica crew having to fight against them.

I have a feeling they left the 5th Cylon slot open so that paranoia "who's a Cylon" feel that's part of the show will still be in. It could be Starbuck though.

Also it turns out that the leaked picture without the lighting of the final 5 was indeed true. We saw Anders, the Chief, another woman, and a tall man which was Tigh but we couldn't tell, I remember the last did look like Starbuck.

As for 2008, they sure know how to build suspension for the next season.

Archangel
03-26-2007, 12:38 AM
I knew I heard that song before.
What's the title?

All Along the Watchtower. Also made famous-er by Jimi Hendrix.

Speedball
03-26-2007, 12:44 AM
All Along the Watchtower. Also made famous-er by Jimi Hendrix.
Thanks.
I actually just found it on Itunes.
I've heard the Hendrix version before, but not the Dylan.
There's also a U2 version on Rattle and Hum.
I might go pick that up tomorrrow, since U2 is my favorite band.:woot::woot:

Zenien
03-26-2007, 04:34 AM
They need to release the Season 3 OST soon.

The 'All Along the Watchtower' heard in this episode was an original composition.

http://www.bearmccreary.com/html/blog/blogmain.htm

The composer talks about All Along The Watchtower


I happened to catch Ron Moore in the hallway at Universal and, in a brief conversation, got everything I needed to know. I learned that the idea was not that Bob Dylan necessarily exists in the characters' universe, but that an artist on one of the colonies may have recorded a song with the exact same melody and lyrics. Perhaps this unknown performer and Dylan pulled inspiration from a common, ethereal source. Therefore, I was told to make no musical references to any "Earthly" versions, Hendrix, Dylan or any others. The arrangement needed to sound like a pop song that belonged in the Galactica universe, not our own.

With Ron's blessing to try out whatever I wanted, I suddenly had the most creative freedom I'd ever been offered. No temp scores, no music notes... not even any picture to score! I was on my own, free to arrange this piece in any way I saw fit. So, in early January, with nothing to lose, I set out to do my first All Along the Watchtower demo. I assumed, correctly, that the demo would be the starting point for months of discussion between myself, the producers and the network. What I didn't realize was that everyone involved would love my version so much that the final recording you hear in "Crossroads, Part II" is, in essence, my initial idea.

So how did I go about creating this unique version of All Along the Watchtower?

The first hurdle to overcome was finding a singer. Fortunately, I have one in the family! My brother Brendan, professionally known as Bt4, brought his incredible talent to the track. As much as I lavished on the instrumental arrangement, it is his vocal performance that holds the whole thing together. You guys have all heard him sing before, on the first season's Main Title, and on Season Two's The Cylon Prisoner from "Pegasus." I play in his band, so he owed me a favor anyway! By the way, our newest EP is really worth checking out (www.bt4online.com).

Superfreak
03-26-2007, 06:36 AM
Thanks.
I actually just found it on Itunes.
I've heard the Hendrix version before, but not the Dylan.
There's also a U2 version on Rattle and Hum.
I might go pick that up tomorrrow, since U2 is my favorite band.:woot::woot:

you should be excommunicated for you lack of musical knowledge.

TheDemon'sHead
03-26-2007, 08:37 AM
First off I think the season finally was pretty good, it wasn't the strongest season finale and it was somewhat predictable that Starbuck wasn't dead and that the Cylons were going to show up at the end. but Apollo's courtroom scene was well written and acted. Overall I liked the entire episode...

...except for the use of "All Along The Watchtower". Now I know that's what they kept hearing but the excessive use of guitars and an "earth" song doesn't feel like it belongs in the BSG world. For the past three seasons, the people behind the show have made an effort to establish that the 12 colonies are a different culture than earth and I feel the use of the song was pretty corny. My roommate who doesn't watch the show but has seen it when I watched it said, "If this was the first thing that I saw of BSG I would have never believed that it was a good show."

And I'm surprised... no one has mentioned that there is another human/cylon baby? Tyrol and Callie's son.

Darthphere
03-26-2007, 09:47 AM
Slightly predictable ending, but damn good acting perfromances.

Superfreak
03-26-2007, 10:23 AM
First off I think the season finally was pretty good, it wasn't the strongest season finale and it was somewhat predictable that Starbuck wasn't dead and that the Cylons were going to show up at the end. but Apollo's courtroom scene was well written and acted. Overall I liked the entire episode...

...except for the use of "All Along The Watchtower". Now I know that's what they kept hearing but the excessive use of guitars and an "earth" song doesn't feel like it belongs in the BSG world. For the past three seasons, the people behind the show have made an effort to establish that the 12 colonies are a different culture than earth and I feel the use of the song was pretty corny. My roommate who doesn't watch the show but has seen it when I watched it said, "If this was the first thing that I saw of BSG I would have never believed that it was a good show."

And I'm surprised... no one has mentioned that there is another human/cylon baby? Tyrol and Callie's son.


I think its safe to say that the music is not coming from the fleet, or what's left of the 12 colonies.

So that really leaves only 2 places for it to be coming from: The Cylons, or from Earth....

so having 'earth' music is appropriate if the second theory is true.





But yes, I agree, it was strange. But just as strange as the bagpipes in season 1, and they turned out fantastic. The musical suprise that Mcreary promised wasn't as much of a suprise as I was hoping.

C. Lee
03-26-2007, 10:49 AM
And I'm surprised... no one has mentioned that there is another human/cylon baby? Tyrol and Callie's son.

I popped in here to see what people were thinking about that too...seems we are the only ones to catch it.

Darthphere
03-26-2007, 10:54 AM
I thought of that too, but its clearly a different type of situation considering Tyrol is a "special" cylon, so honestly when we get to that empasse we'll see what happens.

Pink Ranger
03-26-2007, 11:47 AM
Another thing, I guess Hera's no longer such hot sh@# anymore now that there's another half-Cylon baby, assuming Callie didn't go sleeping around.

Darthphere
03-26-2007, 11:51 AM
We're assuming that Tyrol is the same type of Cylon as Sharon, which clearly he's not, for all we know, his baby is fully human.

TheDemon'sHead
03-26-2007, 12:51 PM
Then wouldn't that make Tyrol human? Which supposedly he isn't since he's a Cylon.

Darthphere
03-26-2007, 12:55 PM
We don't know the extent of his "cylonacity" so its not safe to assume either way.

Evelisse
03-26-2007, 02:58 PM
Yes where are the freaky dreams about Chiefs' child, if so special, might be cylons like chief have been mating with humans on earth forever so no big deal, slipt under the radar? 2008 is too far away.

Archangel
03-26-2007, 03:00 PM
Well, Hera was born first, so maybe she's only important because she's the original.

Darthphere
03-26-2007, 03:08 PM
I doubt it. 2 cylon hybrids out of millions of cylons is still important.

Kebab gud
03-26-2007, 04:14 PM
looks like Starbuck tok a ride on the "Ship of Lights"...
like how they take storys from the original show and make them WOW again...

Spidey Rules 2
03-26-2007, 04:37 PM
:cmad: I saw this episode NOT knowing it would be the last one until 2008. I knew the season finale would be coming up soon, but not that soon. :cmad:

yenaled
03-26-2007, 04:55 PM
That episode was all sorts of awesome.

AND IF I DIE TODAY THAT'S THE MAN I'LL BE!

Got to love me some Tigh.

Sebastos
03-26-2007, 05:05 PM
I missed the season finale, when can I catch it again? :(

Evelisse
03-26-2007, 05:52 PM
Should be on again Tuesday night, not sure what channel or time slot it is on locally for you but for me, I see it re-airing Tuesday 11pm est on Sci-Fi. Don't miss it, though I'm sure many times before 2008 they'll have marathons of the entire season playing.

Fading
03-26-2007, 07:00 PM
It is too early to make a judgement on what the baby is, but my main guess is the Chief's baby could be the Adam to Hera's Eve. The Cylons had that fertility clinic that seemed like it couldn't work so the hybrid race seemingly couldn't be advanced by the Cylons themselves.

Sawyer
03-26-2007, 07:36 PM
I want that version of All Along the Watchtower. It fit so well with the end of the episode. Great finale, BTW.

Donnie Darko
03-26-2007, 10:20 PM
That episode was all sorts of awesome.

AND IF I DIE TODAY THAT'S THE MAN I'LL BE!

Got to love me some Tigh.

hell yeah, that was great

Superfreak
03-27-2007, 06:33 AM
It is too early to make a judgement on what the baby is, but my main guess is the Chief's baby could be the Adam to Hera's Eve. The Cylons had that fertility clinic that seemed like it couldn't work so the hybrid race seemingly couldn't be advanced by the Cylons themselves.


I think we all came to that conclusion about 10 pages ago, but apart from that...



Here is my prediction:

I believe that the first 7 cylons (minus D'anna Biers and the rest of her model) are all about the concept that everything has happened before, and will happen again. I think that the first 7 were all about keeping the cycle going. They are all about maintaining the birth, and rebirth over and over and over again.

On the other hand, the final 5 may be all about breaking the cycle, and bringing the endless replaying of this drama to an end. It's interesting that both Admiral Adama, and President Rosilyn both have cylons for assistants. Are Torrie and Tigh influencing our heroes. Likewise, both Anders and Tyrol were key players in the retreival of the arrow, as well as the securing of Kobol, so that the map room could be found, while the other cylons were trying to stop them.


Anyhow, what do you guys think?

TheDemon'sHead
03-27-2007, 08:32 AM
That's a good theory. But I was actually thinking that maybe the final 5 are also about maintaining the cycle but their method is different than the 7 although their goals are the same.

We don't really know how the cycle works though. My guess is that they find earth and then eventually people head back to the 12 colonies start that over and then the cycle recycles. Back and forth between Earth and the 12 colonies.

I don't really know though. I'm just typing gibberish. I don't look too much into it and it's still early in the day.

Trav28
03-27-2007, 09:43 AM
Hey everyone, first time poster long time lurker. Huge BSG fan, from the original to the current run. But I figure why not, so try this on:

Given that this show is probably the best written show currently running, I think omissions require some special thought. Given that no mention was made towards the obvious would be fact that there is a second Cylon hybrid, speaks volumes.

Also, making the biggest Cylon-hater one of them is just too convienent for me.

Also, why use such an obvious song? "All along the Watchtower"?

My guess, the four are humans and not Cylons and what has been happening has more to do with finding earth and them interpreting it as being Cylon.

Just a guess.

Superfreak
03-27-2007, 10:04 AM
Hey everyone, first time poster long time lurker. Huge BSG fan, from the original to the current run. But I figure why not, so try this on:

Given that this show is probably the best written show currently running, I think omissions require some special thought. Given that no mention was made towards the obvious would be fact that there is a second Cylon hybrid, speaks volumes.

Also, making the biggest Cylon-hater one of them is just too convienent for me.

Also, why use such an obvious song? "All along the Watchtower"?

My guess, the four are humans and not Cylons and what has been happening has more to do with finding earth and them interpreting it as being Cylon.

Just a guess.

totally, nothing has been definitively stated that they are cylons. This could totally be some new phenomenon that is affecting the fleet.

but honestly, I'm thinking about the 12 gods. I mean if finality is coming to the series in the next season, than we are looking at the foundation for the resolution to a lot of question. What is with there being 12 cylon models, and 12 gods. What's with the temple of 5, and what is with the final five? Are the 12 cylon models based on 12 gods? Are they clones of the 12 gods? If so, do the final 5 have copies or not? If not, then are they the real deal final five of the 12 gods of kobol? etc.


more questions: The president spaced out right before the power surge. What was that all about? Did she see something?

Trav28
03-27-2007, 10:38 AM
totally, nothing has been definitively stated that they are cylons. This could totally be some new phenomenon that is affecting the fleet.

but honestly, I'm thinking about the 12 gods. I mean if finality is coming to the series in the next season, than we are looking at the foundation for the resolution to a lot of question. What is with there being 12 cylon models, and 12 gods. What's with the temple of 5, and what is with the final five? Are the 12 cylon models based on 12 gods? Are they clones of the 12 gods? If so, do the final 5 have copies or not? If not, then are they the real deal final five of the 12 gods of kobol? etc.


more questions: The president spaced out right before the power surge. What was that all about? Did she see something?

Yeah, I thought about that too. I guess if were talking about supernatural beings, it's only fitting they used a Hendrix song.:woot: Plus I always figured the Cylons to be more of a Moby crowd.

TheDemon'sHead
03-27-2007, 10:56 AM
more questions: The president spaced out right before the power surge. What was that all about? Did she see something?

The only thing that would make sense, other than her being a Cylon, is the Hera blood running through her veins.

Speedball
03-27-2007, 11:02 AM
News on the film:
Details About the Battlestar TV Movie Revealed
Galactica producer Ron Moore offers updates on the TV Movie, Caprica, and season four.
by Eric Goldman
March 26, 2007 - In the past week, much more information about the upcoming Battlestar Galactica TV Movie has been revealed, thanks to interviews given by executive producer Ron Moore with post-gazette.com and ew.com. Moore has confirmed that, as rumored, the movie will indeed focus on an untold story about the Battlestar Pegasus, and feature Admiral Cain (Michelle Forbes), a character who died on Galactica in season two. While this story with Cain occurs before she and the Pegasus crew joined up with Galactica, the entire cast of the regular series will appear in the movie, as the Pegasus portion is portrayed via flashbacks.

In the Gazette interview, Moore described the TV movie as, "really just a couple of extra episodes for the fourth season that will air earlier than the rest of the season, sometime in the fall. They'll come out on DVD the next day." Moore explained to ew.com that, "We'll try to reassemble most of the Pegasus cast. The whole notion of doing this came from [Universal's] home video [department] wanting to have a DVD release. We were intrigued by it, and then the [SCI FI] Network was in favor of it because then they could put something of Galactica on the air in the fall even though the fourth season won't really kick off until January. We started talking about something that would have taken place in Galactica's past, and certainly the Pegasus episodes were the most popular and some of our favorites internally. We realized there was an opportunity to not only satisfy the desire to do more with Pegasus and her crew, but also that we could set up certain things into the fourth season. You watch this episode that took place in the past, and then when you've gotten to the fourth season, you would realize that there actually was a payoff to some of those events."

Asked for an update on the proposed Galactica spinioff/prequel Caprica, Moore said to ew.com, "It's on the shelf over at SCI FI. I don't think they're picking it up right now. They've talked about doing a similar back-door situation like they did with Galactica, where maybe they do a two-hour [movie] that's also a direct-to-DVD thing that serves as a backdoor pilot. But, personally, the longer they don't pick it up, I think the less are the odds that they will."

[Major Spoiler Warning for the just aired Battlestar Galactica Season Three finale for the rest of this article!] In the Gazette interview, Moore also addressed the huge events of this week's Battlestar Galactica season finale, which revealed that four notable characters -- Tigh, Anders, Tori and Tyrol -- were Cylons, and showed the apparent return of Kara "Starbuck" Thrace (Katee Sackhoff), who had died several episodes earlier. Moore said much of next season will explore the how and why those four characters could be Cylons and not know it, and while he was coy on whether Apollo was really seeing Starbuck or hallucinating in the final moments of the finale -- saying, "It's exactly the kind of thing I want people to chew over the next few months" -- he did confirm that Sackhoff is signed for season four and will be back. Moore also said he has an upcoming storyline in mind for D'Anna, the Cylon played by Lucy Lawless, but that Lawless having recently signed onto a pilot (Football Wives) makes it unclear whether she'll be available or not.
http://tv.ign.com/articles/775/775794p1.html

Superfreak
03-27-2007, 11:23 AM
The only thing that would make sense, other than her being a Cylon, is the Hera blood running through her veins.

perhaps

but I don't think she is a cylon. I think she is the leader in the book of pithia, she just happens to be president aswell. And that both leaders have a cylon as their second in command. The cylons, or whatever they are, are obviously observing, or manipulating something.

and I don't think the original 7 cylons were being affected the same way that the new five potential cylons have been. I don't think they hear the music (include the president in that group), while the newbies can.

which begs the question, are they even cylons? Remember the preview for season 3.5? It said one, one, and one. Not one, one and five. Maybe it was a trick, or maybe these five including starbuck, are different.

leoben said Kara was special, does that mean she's a cylon? It's brutal because there is nothing, nothing to base any thoughts on. Damn the cliffhanger

(note, when tigh walked into the room with the other three already there, and said, 'woooooooooooaahhhhh' that was brilliant

Trav28
03-27-2007, 11:32 AM
Why didn't Sharron or Six hear the music? Are we to assume that only the "final five" could hear it?

Darthphere
03-27-2007, 03:24 PM
News on the film:

http://tv.ign.com/articles/775/775794p1.html

Awesome, that should hold us over until January of 08.

TheDemon'sHead
03-27-2007, 04:05 PM
From a whole bunch of interviews with Moore, he said that the final 5 are different than the other 7 and probably why Caprica 6 and Athena didn't hear the music.

Oh and I don't think that Roslin is a Cylon either.

Sebastos
03-27-2007, 06:11 PM
Should be on again Tuesday night, not sure what channel or time slot it is on locally for you but for me, I see it re-airing Tuesday 11pm est on Sci-Fi. Don't miss it, though I'm sure many times before 2008 they'll have marathons of the entire season playing.

Ok, thanks! I'll be sure to try and catch it tonight.

Lurk
03-28-2007, 11:39 AM
Is there a set number of copies of each model? Like for Eight, we have Athena and Boomer, and lots of other copies we've seen, but each character remains a constant when she dies and resurrects. We know a particular "brain" is uploaded when a copy dies, so do we know how many copies of each model there are? I've never been clear on the copies of the 7 models.

Darthphere
03-28-2007, 11:41 AM
We can safely assume there are thousands of copies for each model.

TheDemon'sHead
03-28-2007, 01:05 PM
On another topic, that interview with Moore said that he hopes to use Lucy Lawless again but that she's attached to a pilot and that she may not be available. I really hope that she's able to return because I thought that the 3's were pretty good.

Sawyer
03-28-2007, 09:52 PM
F***. I just read that the BSG miniseries is included on the season 1 dvd after I just bought the miniseries dvd. Thanks for taking the money right out of my pocket, Universal. I HATE double dipping.Please, someone tell me that there is something on the miniseries dvd that isnt on season 1.

Speedball
03-28-2007, 10:07 PM
F***. I just read that the BSG miniseries is included on the season 1 dvd after I just bought the miniseries dvd. Thanks for taking the money right out of my pocket, Universal. I HATE double dipping.Please, someone tell me that there is something on the miniseries dvd that isnt on season 1.
I did that too a few years ago.
I got that and the UK season 1 from best buy, which came out months before the US Season 1 set came out.
The US version has better video quality on the miniseries and episodes, which really pissed me off.
I've been thinking about getting tha version so I can put the other version in storage (It's BSG, I'd have to be crazy to sell that). It's $50, which isn't that bad, but still pricy.

Sentry2005
03-29-2007, 02:25 AM
more questions: The president spaced out right before the power surge. What was that all about? Did she see something?


I just figured that as she had been sharing visions with Caprica-Six and Athena, it was something along the lines of her mind naturally trying to access that vision of the final five which Caprica-Six saw but an outside force stopped her.

My theories on the final five;
I think they've been to Earth. I think that the Cylong fleet at the end of the Episode might be a final five fleet. Maybe they left this fleet in a certain spot waiting for Galactica and the colonials to arrive. I also think the final five will be allied with humanity, or if not then at least the four we have already met will remain loyal.

Funny idea I thought of actually; using my final five and humanity idea, what if it was Tigh who left Adama that note in the min series? Like subconcsiously. Could be.

Oh, and I think Baltar's lawyer could be a cylon (obvious, but here's my reasoning);
- He states he's a student of Joseph Adama, but in what sense? Maybe he learned about humanity and how they manipulate via watching him or reading about his work in the Cylon Trials which form the basis of Caprica (if it ever gets made)
- the part where he took off his glasses was strange. Six seemed to respond in some way. Maybe a sign?
- he was shown to be amazingly insightful, manipulative and self assured; isn't this a trait we ALWAYS see in Cylons?

Ok, i know that line of reasoning is a bit off the cuff, but its just some ideas i had the other day.

Superfreak
03-29-2007, 06:46 AM
I was also thinking about the final five as compared to the original 7.

I think that the final five don't have copies. By that I mean they can die, and will download into a new body. But there is only one mind per model.

Basically, I'm thinking that the final five are five models, with no copies. While the orginal 7 have 7 models, with many copies. That would in effect turn the final five into humans who have achieved immortality, vs. the original 7 who also have immortality, but it is shared among the multiple copies of each model.

So in conclusion:

Original 7: have 7 models, with multiple copies/minds per model.
Final 5: have 5 models, with 1 copy/mind per model

Superfreak
03-29-2007, 07:04 AM
oh, and I just found some info:

The season 3 DVDs will be out mid august, along with other related material like the soundtrack etc. It is early this year, because they are trying to set the stage for the early fall Pegasus movie, and then season 4 in January

Wyrminarrd
03-29-2007, 08:15 AM
Sorry if this has been discussed before, I just donīt have the time to catch up with everything.

I was wondering about Tigh being a Cylon which doesnīt make sense since he fought against the Cylons back when there were no human models... Tigh and Adama have been friends since before the first Cylon war from what I gather so having Tigh be a Cylon just doesnīt make any sense to me. Did the Cylons somehow switch out the real Tigh or was Tigh made before the war but the production line kept a secret by what ever company made him?

TheDemon'sHead
03-29-2007, 01:33 PM
I was also thinking about the final five as compared to the original 7.

I think that the final five don't have copies. By that I mean they can die, and will download into a new body. But there is only one mind per model.

Basically, I'm thinking that the final five are five models, with no copies. While the orginal 7 have 7 models, with many copies. That would in effect turn the final five into humans who have achieved immortality, vs. the original 7 who also have immortality, but it is shared among the multiple copies of each model.

So in conclusion:

Original 7: have 7 models, with multiple copies/minds per model.
Final 5: have 5 models, with 1 copy/mind per model

I like that idea but the only thing that would go against it is when D'anna saw the Final Five in the temple and spoke to them. We don't know if it was a physical manifestation of the five or if it was just in her head. The one she spoke to did try to reach out to her though. Obviously this wasn't Anders or Tyrol since they were fighting or making their way into the temple. But it would discredit your theory.

TheDemon'sHead
03-29-2007, 01:37 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed before, I just donīt have the time to catch up with everything.

I was wondering about Tigh being a Cylon which doesnīt make sense since he fought against the Cylons back when there were no human models... Tigh and Adama have been friends since before the first Cylon war from what I gather so having Tigh be a Cylon just doesnīt make any sense to me. Did the Cylons somehow switch out the real Tigh or was Tigh made before the war but the production line kept a secret by what ever company made him?

It doesn't make much sense. As far as we know the Final Five are much different than the other 7. And it seems as though they age.

And the Cylons couldn't have switched Tigh at some point because the Cylons aren't supposed to be based on anyone. Or at least that's what Moore has been telling us since day 1. So either they age and are very different than the 7 or Moore is lying to us.

Superfreak
03-30-2007, 06:33 AM
I like that idea but the only thing that would go against it is when D'anna saw the Final Five in the temple and spoke to them. We don't know if it was a physical manifestation of the five or if it was just in her head. The one she spoke to did try to reach out to her though. Obviously this wasn't Anders or Tyrol since they were fighting or making their way into the temple. But it would discredit your theory.

that was not a physical manifestation. It was a dream, or a vision. They weren't actually there. otherwise Baltar and Six would have seen them too.

Superfreak
03-30-2007, 06:35 AM
F***. I just read that the BSG miniseries is included on the season 1 dvd after I just bought the miniseries dvd. Thanks for taking the money right out of my pocket, Universal. I HATE double dipping.Please, someone tell me that there is something on the miniseries dvd that isnt on season 1.

it's not double dipping, it's poor consumer research on your part. Both the season 1 DVD (including the MS) and the MS itself have been out now for what, 4 years or something. I'm sure if you had researched you purchase for 10 seconds, you would have realized this, and not fallen into any double dipper trap.

Darthphere
03-30-2007, 08:25 AM
I was also thinking about the final five as compared to the original 7.

I think that the final five don't have copies. By that I mean they can die, and will download into a new body. But there is only one mind per model.

Basically, I'm thinking that the final five are five models, with no copies. While the orginal 7 have 7 models, with many copies. That would in effect turn the final five into humans who have achieved immortality, vs. the original 7 who also have immortality, but it is shared among the multiple copies of each model.

So in conclusion:

Original 7: have 7 models, with multiple copies/minds per model.
Final 5: have 5 models, with 1 copy/mind per model

I thought that info was known from the beginning. I remember them saying a while back that the final 5 couldn't download.:huh:

Donnie Darko
03-30-2007, 11:17 AM
it's not double dipping, it's poor consumer research on your part. Both the season 1 DVD (including the MS) and the MS itself have been out now for what, 4 years or something. I'm sure if you had researched you purchase for 10 seconds, you would have realized this, and not fallen into any double dipper trap.

plus, didn't the miniseries come out on dvd before the first season even aired/completed? I don't consider that double-dipping on Universal's part. I think that's helping out the fans that didn't catch on until season one or later.

Caliber
03-30-2007, 01:33 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed before, I just donīt have the time to catch up with everything.

I was wondering about Tigh being a Cylon which doesnīt make sense since he fought against the Cylons back when there were no human models... Tigh and Adama have been friends since before the first Cylon war from what I gather so having Tigh be a Cylon just doesnīt make any sense to me. Did the Cylons somehow switch out the real Tigh or was Tigh made before the war but the production line kept a secret by what ever company made him?

I thought about that too, but maybe next season that will be answered. At first it doesn't make sense but really looking at it, it does in a strange way. He could have forgotten his programing and acted like he was human. No wonder he hated cylons so much.

chosen1
03-30-2007, 01:43 PM
Rewatching the pilot episode titled 33 when the entire galactica crew was worn out from running from the cylons. Sharon was one of the only officers that was'nt worn out because obviously she was a cylon. But rewatching it Tigh and Tyrol were about the same as well. Tyrol fixing the ships was giving orders and everything while his crew looked like they were ready to pass out. And tigh. I remember him saying after bill told him to get some rest. "Truth is all of this has got me feeling more alive than i've been in years."

just thought I'd point it out...


"If you with us, you with us." -- Chris Partlow

Caliber
03-30-2007, 01:51 PM
Rewatching the pilot episode titled 33 when the entire galactica crew was worn out from running from the cylons. Sharon was one of the only officers that was'nt worn out because obviously she was a cylon. But rewatching it Tigh and Tyrol were about the same as well. Tyrol fixing the ships was giving orders and everything while his crew looked like they were ready to pass out. And tigh. I remember him saying after bill told him to get some rest. "Truth is all of this has got me feeling more alive than i've been in years."

just thought I'd point it out...


"If you with us, you with us." -- Chris Partlow

Interesting, Tigh used to seem like the guy who liked to fight but now he was more interested in other things.

phoenixflight
04-09-2007, 03:05 PM
Iv'e been out of the loop for some time...missed a few episodes. If this question has been answered before, can someone please point me in the right direction.

Are the Final Five really the final five models? Or are they the original first Five Cylons created, one copy of each, designed to infiltrate human society...military...government...popular culture...(and so forth)??

And who the hell is the last model we haven't seen yet?? That model could not have been on the ship or that model would have been summoned to the same meeting spot as the others??

TheDemon'sHead
04-17-2007, 10:31 AM
There's a new interview with RDM on the Onion's A/V Club.

http://www.avclub.com

Spidey Rules 2
04-17-2007, 04:55 PM
Hey I just thought of something. What if (and I know it's a big "What If") when they show the last episode for the series, we find out that we (the viewers) are actually descendents from the cylons that arrived here on Earth thousands of years ago. The big problem being "where did all that technology go?"

LadyVader
04-18-2007, 12:47 AM
It's all locked away in the North Pole where Santa uses it to make toys. :D

Sawyer
04-20-2007, 03:41 PM
Dont know if this has been asked, but... what is to become of Number Six? Is she still going to be in Galactica's brig by season 4?

chosen1
04-20-2007, 05:17 PM
Dont know if this has been asked, but... what is to become of Number Six? Is she still going to be in Galactica's brig by season 4?


she'll be the next viper pilot

Sawyer
04-24-2007, 04:40 PM
she'll be the next viper pilot

....seriously?

phoenixflight
04-29-2007, 03:54 PM
I love this pic...

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1849/lovexd9.jpg

Dr Lee
04-29-2007, 04:10 PM
I love the effect with the tattoos on their arms... Very clever

Bastila
05-01-2007, 05:26 PM
Ok final was airred just now in the UK - where so behind right lol.

And I liked the last two finals, but the first hour and 45mins where not that all interesting.

So the final 4, are those 4, but are they really, just as they heard a song, its not good enough proof really, poor Tigh though he would hate to be one.

But see the final 5 are Gods not really Cylones, so they still could be humans, or hybrids really.

And so Starbuck lived yeah! I saw sad when she died, I like her.
So she has been/found Earth that is cool, so that whole big bada boom Viper blowing up didn't kill her or it was someone else.
So is she the other Final Five then.

What did you guys think?

Bastila
05-06-2007, 12:15 PM
Oh oh oh I read that there is going to be an episode between Season 3 and 4 and its like a prequel thing and I looked around the net and saw that the Pegasus and its old crew are in it, cool.

Also anyone got an decent BSG wallpapers I have none really. And the sci fi ones are ok.
But like fan made or something would be cool.

tupelohoney
05-16-2007, 01:10 PM
i heard there is gonna be some BSG fan appreciate thing in LA on June 6th. i havent seen any details yet. have any of you? it would be so cool for them to do something for the fans.

Bastila
05-16-2007, 03:23 PM
i heard there is gonna be some BSG fan appreciate thing in LA on June 6th. i havent seen any details yet. have any of you? it would be so cool for them to do something for the fans.

Ohhh don't say that as I live in the UK and can't go lol do one in the UK and I will lol.
But got any details on it like any cast making a show there?

tupelohoney
05-29-2007, 10:20 AM
Ohhh don't say that as I live in the UK and can't go lol do one in the UK and I will lol.
But got any details on it like any cast making a show there?

sorry bastila, you'll have to hop on a jet to get to this one. just found the details and it is in fact in LA.

The cast and creators of Battlestar Galactica invite all fans and members of the Academy, guilds and Hollywood Foreign Press to a celebration of what Newsweek calls "the best show on television." The evening will include an exclusive sneak peek of the show's epic fourth season.

Details:
June 6 at 8:00 p.m.
The Cinerama Dome
6360 W. Sunset Blvd.
Los Angeles, Calif.

Seating is limited to the first 500 attendees; special seating will be available for Academy, Hollywood Foreign Press and guild members.


How cool is this? A sneak peek of the fourth season! Awesome!

http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/news/

Bastila
05-29-2007, 10:22 AM
sorry bastila, you'll have to hop on a jet to get to this one. just found the details and it is in fact in LA.

The cast and creators of Battlestar Galactica invite all fans and members of the Academy, guilds and Hollywood Foreign Press to a celebration of what Newsweek calls "the best show on television." The evening will include an exclusive sneak peek of the show's epic fourth season.

Details:
June 6 at 8:00 p.m.
The Cinerama Dome
6360 W. Sunset Blvd.
Los Angeles, Calif.

Seating is limited to the first 500 attendees; special seating will be available for Academy, Hollywood Foreign Press and guild members.


How cool is this? A sneak peek of the fourth season! Awesome!

http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/news/

:csad:
I hate having hardly any money why do the US get everything EVERYTHING!!!

Sneak peak will be leaked online hahahaha

Speedball
06-01-2007, 02:52 AM
:csad:
I hate having hardly any money why do the US get everything EVERYTHING!!!

Sneak peak will be leaked online hahahaha
The correct thing to say is: Why do California, New York, Chicago, Las Vegas, Florida and Atlanta get everything?
Everyone else is just screwed, including me.

Battlestar Galactica to End After Season 4
Source: Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117966089.html?categoryid=14&cs=1)
June 1, 2007


SCI FI (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=20756#) Channel's "Battlestar Galactica" will sign off next year after its fourth season, producers said Thursday. Variety says the series had to fight to get renewed for a fourth season.

Executive producers Ronald D. Moore and David Eick issued a joint statement saying it was their decision to end the series.

"This show was always meant to have a beginning, a middle and, finally, an end," the producers said. "Over the course of the last year, the story and the characters have been moving strongly toward that end, and we've decided to listen to those internal voices and conclude the show on our own terms."

The producers promised to end the show "with a bang."

"Battlestar" will begin its fourth season with a two-hour episode in November. It will then return in early 2008 to finish out its 22-episode run.

SCI FI Channel hasn't yet said if it plans to move forward with a proposed "Battlestar" prequel series.http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=20756
As sad as I am about this, I'm not mad or angry about it. If that's where they want to end it, fine, as long as we get to see that universe again in the future.

Donnie Darko
06-01-2007, 09:37 AM
well, at least they're not going to drive it in to the ground. Lots of great shows fall off as time goes, and I don't want to see that happen here.

TheDemon'sHead
06-01-2007, 10:45 AM
Thanks the Gods!

I think it's a great thing ending it after season four. Like DD said just before me, at least they're not going to drive it in to the ground.

There's been many shows that should have ended much earlier than they have. Plus we don't want more filler episodes like that Helo one from this past season. At least I don't.

Darthphere
06-01-2007, 10:46 AM
Good move IMO.

Bastila
06-01-2007, 10:51 AM
The correct thing to say is: Why do California, New York, Chicago, Las Vegas, Florida and Atlanta get everything?
Everyone else is just screwed, including me.

But you have a better chance so I don't care :oldrazz: lol, no it does suck doesn't it, I love BSG and I would love to meet some of the cast.


As sad as I am about this, I'm not mad or angry about it. If that's where they want to end it, fine, as long as we get to see that universe again in the future.
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It makes me sad as Alias was my fave show its gone now and BSG is my fave show and now its going to end :csad:
But as long it goes out with an amazing final serise and a great final I will be happy but still :csad: that its over.

TheDemon'sHead
06-08-2007, 10:18 AM
aintitcool has a rundown of the Battlestar Fan thing that went down on Wednesday. Nothing super major but interesting nonetheless.

Bastila
06-09-2007, 11:08 AM
Battlestar Galactica: Season Four Sneak Peak
A look at the season 4 premier of Galactica.
Ahmad T. Childress, CraveOnline
June 7, 2007




Battlestar Galactica is argubly the best show on TV. The combination of great writing, skillfull directing, stellar acting and social revelancy make it an amazing show (not unlike HBO’s The Wire). The saying that only the good die young seems to be true since after only 4 seasons, Galactica is ending.
The two hour season 4 opener, “Razor” takes place primarily during season 2 as well as at the beginning of the current Cylon/Human war. The episode takes place on the Pegasus so we will get to see more of the lovely Michelle Forbes (Admiral Cain) as well as the horribly tortured # 6 Cylon, Gina. The season 4 prequel will appear on Sci-Fi in November and then be released on DVD almost immediately after. We also learned that the show started filming season 4 several weeks ago.

We got a look at two different peaks of season 4; one wrap up clip that contained scenes from the entire series and a second clip that looked like a promo of the season 4 premier.

The season four preview looks great. From the looks of the preview, we will see the shooting incident involving Admiral Cain aboard the Pegasus (that was mentioned in season 2). We will also see how the Pegasus crew reacts to the initial discovery of the humanoid Cylons. We also get a glimpse of “Gina” before she is discovered to be a Cylon. The episode will also delve in to the back story of the “Four of Five” group of humanoid Cylons that were revealed during the season finale.

The two hour episode looks like it will help fans cope with the fact the show will not be return to regular episodes until an unspecified time in 2008.

Keep your eyes peeled, the clip will probably hit the public just in time for next month's Comic-Con.

http://www.craveonline.com/filmtv/articles/04648036/battlestar_galactica_season_four_sneak_peak.html

Yeah more Cain, can't wait to see Michelle Forbes play Cain again!!!

Sneak peak oh yeah cool! :)

LadyVader
06-10-2007, 05:23 PM
Taking advantage of the new You Tube feature to show yall some awsome galactica bloopers in case you havent seen them yet.it's so weird to see people goofing off on such a grim and realistic show. But... people iz people. :)

kdmo_KCsutI

Bastila
06-11-2007, 02:37 PM
^
Cool, I love bloopers so funny.

isn't there been a BSG con thing out in US which a memeber mentioned? I demand a sneak peek and a clue of what might happen in seaso 4 our last season :( lol.

looking at those bloopers wonder if D'anna will return for the final season?

Bastila
06-14-2007, 09:33 AM
More news!


A E!Online Kristin video thingy. There are no spoilers unless you considered cast 'speculation' about the show spoilers:

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=55c9d348-631d-47ee-9f67-cd5718c625d9


http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=198e2036-4d28-4ae3-ba01-4661a07676b5


Battlestar Galactica: Ronald Moore talks about Earth
http://www.craveonline.com/filmtv/articles/04648062/battlestar_galactica_ronald_moore_talks_about_eart h.html

Katie Sackhoff: Frak it
http://www.craveonline.com/filmtv/articles/04648049/katie_sackhoff_frak_it.html

Edward James Olmos: So say we all
http://www.craveonline.com/filmtv/articles/04648042/edward_james_olmos_so_say_we_all.html


You know what would be funny and a twist is that if they never found Earth or all died and the Cylons won lol.
Or they did beat the Cylons but never found Earth lol.

TheDemon'sHead
06-14-2007, 10:04 AM
Bastila, Can you fix the first two links. They don't seem to be working...

Thanks!