The Battlestar Galactica and Caprica Discussion Thread

[Superfreak]

EDIT: This is a spoilerific thread... so be aware


I know there are a number of other threads about the show, but might aswell start a permanent discussion thread.


I'll start with a review of Home, Part 2

Everybody is reunited in this episode. No one is marooned anywhere, or off on a solo mission or what not. Although the episode was a little bit of a let down, with little action, many major events happened.

Caprica Boomer is now what could be called a Cylon defector, choosing to join the fleet. Baltar's Six is now somewhat mysterious. She is not a chip in his head, which leads to the question of who, or what is she?

The path to earth has been revealled, although the clues to it's location are based on a view of the night sky, from earth.

Adama has placed his faith in the hands of the President, as she did lead the fleet to the tomb of Athena.

Although the episode was a little underwhelming, it sets the stage for a new chapter in the series.



Lastly, I did some reading for spoilers:

It looks like we will be getting to see Commander Caine, and Battlestar Pegasus in the near future. No Sheba, sadly, but the reasons for that are clearly stated in the blog I read (mainly that the Father/Son Commander/captain already exists on Galactica, and to repeat the exact same thing on the Pegasus would be redundant). However, I'm excited to see this, b/c in the original, the Pegasus and Caine were billed as the most badass Battlestar of them all. So it should be fun to see some serious reinforcements, aswell as some kind of reckless plan excecuted by Caine.

[Superfreak]

-> Lucy Lawless looks hot as a blonde

[Cap1970]

Thanks for the review of the episode - I missed it. Seeing Pegasus in the future makes sense, and could be an awesome addition to the series.

[Spidey Rules 2]

Oh man, Pegasus would be awesome! I'm predicting a season finale on this one. We'd probably have to wait until their season starts again before we see how its played out. I wonder if Commander Caine will want to go pick fights with the Cylons just like the 70s show) or if he will submit to the President.

[Armand Z Trip]

Just watched tonights episode. We left off two weeks ago with #6 telling Baltar he would be responsible for the destruction of the human race, then we were shown we would have to wait two weeks to see Xena warrior princess doing A Current Affair on Galactica.


I thought I'd be like the Collector, telling Lucy Lawless - worst, episode...ever. Thankfully tonights epsiode was pretty good, nice twist at the end, I guess Xena will be back.

[Cap1970]

Just watched tonights episode. We left off two weeks ago with #6 telling Baltar he would be responsible for the destruction of the human race, then we were shown we would have to wait two weeks to see Xena warrior princess doing A Current Affair on Galactica.


I thought I'd be like the Collector, telling Lucy Lawless - worst, episode...ever. Thankfully tonights epsiode was pretty good, nice twist at the end, I guess Xena will be back.

Yeah the twist was good - loved the music in the end of the "documentary" from the original series. I thought that was a cool addition.

[Superfreak]

so, 6 of 12 cylons identified, half way there I guess, Six, Sharon, Leoben, Doral, the Doctor, and Xena.

great epi... somehow they took the cliche reporter episode, did nothing to it, and still made it interesting. Lucy Lawless, and her little suprise ending was a bit predictable IMO, but fun nonetheless. It'll be nice to have her as a reoccuring character.

I'm hoping there's some space battling before the break until January (ie. in the next couple of weeks) because there hasn't been much this season so far, 'cept the episode before the Cylon boarding action.


Michelle Forbes has been cast in the role of Commander Caine (ensign Ro from Star Trek TNG). I read a blog stating that they eliminated the character of Sheba, because it was to cliche to have 2 Battlestar commanders, with 2 CAGs as their children. Anyhow, I hope that interests some of you. I put this in the SG thread, but I was hoping that Beau Bridges would be playing the part, reprising his father's role (especially since they're all filmed(stargate/atlantis/battlestar) at the same studio in hongcouver). But it wasn't to be.

see you next week, hope it's another solid epi



and one last thought:

12 cylon copies, 12 colonies... there has to be some sort of connection there right. Well, now the cylons are eargerly awaiting a child, why? Is it because there is more than 12 colonies? Is it because there are infact 13 colonies? And therefore, and 13th cylon is needed to bridge the number gap. What do you think?

[Spidey Rules 2]

and one last thought:

12 cylon copies, 12 colonies... there has to be some sort of connection there right. Well, now the cylons are eargerly awaiting a child, why? Is it because there is more than 12 colonies? Is it because there are infact 13 colonies? And therefore, and 13th cylon is needed to bridge the number gap. What do you think?

Sounds about right to me, after all the 13th colony is Earth, isn't it?

[Superfreak]

This week's episode was great. I loved the hobby kit ship, the aftermath of the cylon virus, sharon's attack on the cylon fleet. Most of all, the morale, and fatigue issues that the episode was based on.

It was really good stuff. The scene when they celebrated the 'Laura's' first flight was excellent, and contrasted really well with the news she recieved earlier in the episode. When the fateful day comes, that episode is going to be brutally depressing.

I love how they have a stil in one of the supply rooms, and you gotta love Tigh. What a hard ass, but when something really does matter to someone, he cuts them some slack in his own way (while picking up a jar of the good stuff).

Lastly, I loved the slow appreciation of Tyrrel's pet project. I loved the initial rejection by the deck crew, but as the story progressed, their growing support really made a significant impact. And I loved how in the end, it was Helo who helped finish the ship off. Tyrell is a great character, and his conflict with Helo was great, as well as the resolution to their issue(s).

What's going on with D and Apollo, that was a bit cheeky I think? And I'm beginning to adore Geata's character. The quiet little nerd, growing some balls in the face of annialation.

Well done this week.

[Superfreak]

Oh, just thought I might warn those who are interested: Next weeks episode (summer finale) is entitled 'Pegasus'....

[Cap1970]

Did you catch in the preview that Cain is an Admiral? This should be interesting..

[Superfreak]

Did you catch in the preview that Cain is an Admiral? This should be interesting..

I have to DL my epis, so i didn't see the preview, and it's not up on the sci fi website yet. But yeah, I saw that they made her an admiral, so the power struggle to come should be interesting to watch.

but you know it's gonna be a cliffhanger... and you know what that means? That means 4 months until it is all resolved. This cliffhanger might actually be worse than the Adama shot/Apollo arrested/Starbuck on caprica cliffhanger at the end of last season. Oh the humanity of it all

[Cap1970]

That's why we'll be watching when it comes back on again...

Speaking of which - the US Season One is available on DVD tomorrow.......

[Superfreak]

That's why we'll be watching when it comes back on again...

Speaking of which - the US Season One is available on DVD tomorrow.......

I know, I'm gonna buy the MS and S1 on the weekend I think. This'll be the first series that I buy on DVD, I've been holding off until something worth while comes off, as a DVD set is a lot of money (and to those who post on this board who's parents buy them everything,,, frack you)

[LadyVader]

My review of Final cut. :)

First of all, Jamie Bamber is ripped! That is one hot bod he's got there, almost makes me wonder what a pilot needs those pecs for!

:)
Now, the obvious point of an episode like this is character developement. We, like D'anna, want to get to know the characters. To find out the truth! But can we handle the truth?
(Yeah, I get tired of that damn quote myself)
Galactica personnel are real people, with real problems. They get mad, stupid, drunk, they have addictions (all kinds of addictions), they make idle threats and they have ***** fits. We've seen them in comabt countless times, and yet we've never seen them in this light before. i was most impressed with Gaeta's developement. Wait a minute... he smokes? He drinks!? He's got a tattoo? Great acting by Juliani. We always see him so... uptight and anal, but now he was laid back. Excellent.
Other then that we see the follow-up to several plots, like Tigh's commanding screw-ups and Boomer's pregnancy. Tigh handled the gun point situation very well. He admited he was responsible and at the same time he knew it was an accident, the exception.
Xena the reporter is as crazy a concept, as Xena the blonde. And yet Lawless looked good in both circumstances. I liked her, Cylon and all. But it really doesn't matter in this show, does it? If the character's a cylon or not. We still wuv them. I particularly liked how she captured the reactions of people on board the ship during a cylon raid. We never got to see that opurselves, and even though nobody said or did anything, we could feel the tension, the anxiety. That speech at the end of the movies was propaganda! It was good propaganda, but still...
Quote of the show:
D'anna: Captain Adama, didn't recognise you with your clothes on.
An oldie but a goldie!

What's this? The cylons didn't know Sharon is alive? Then she really is on her own. Good to know.


Now, on to Flight of the Pheonix

We've just had an episode dealing with how the troops keep marching on, so this time around it got a little tedious when the president gave that speech at the end with how they're gonna me it through. Other then that, we had more action this episode. Maybe Sharon is finally getting some respect. The audience knows that she really has no conection with the cylons, but Adama doesn't. I like the fact that Apollo and Starbuck are getting closer, although it apperared to me that he panicked a little to early when she went missing.
"STARBUCK!!!!!!!!!AHHHH! WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!!!?????"
Dude, chill out.
But those are some nice arms! :D Also, did you and D. have a moment? You wascally kids, you.
;)

[roach]

We've just had an episode dealing with how the troops keep marching on, so this time around it got a little tedious when the president gave that speech at the end with how they're gonna me it through.

these are people in an extended combat situation...combat fatique is setting in....and no matter how much you say we are gonna make it thru you still get burned out...I have done three deployments on an aircraft carrier including Iraqi Freedom and that fatique is real especially in a situation where you dont know what is gonna happen next.

[TheCorpulent1]

I can't for the life of me figure out how I missed it the first two times I saw "Flight of the Phoenix," but when I saw the rerun last night, I finally caught Lee and Dee's little awkward silence moment. I don't know if I like them together, partly because Billy seems like such a cool guy and partly because, seriously, a couple with rhyming names? Come on.

Oh, and the new stealth Viper looks frackin' SWEET. The Chief continues to be the best character on the show. :up:

[DBCrader]

I know, I'm gonna buy the MS and S1 on the weekend I think. This'll be the first series that I buy on DVD, I've been holding off until something worth while comes off, as a DVD set is a lot of money (and to those who post on this board who's parents buy them everything,,, frack you)

I'm pretty sure that the season one set contains the mini-series as well... at least that's what it seemed like from the ads I saw...

[DBCrader]

DAMMIT!!!! They did it to us AGAIN!!!! Now we gotta wait until January to see what plays out!!!

Admiral Caine scares me... somethings up here... is it possible that a whole Battlestar crew has descended to the worst level of mankind, proving the Cylons right??? Or is something more sinister behind it... could be it's a trap??? Perhaps the Pegasus crew was captured and brainwashed??? Send 'em back out and join up with Galactica and throw a tempting target like that mystery ship out on the table???

Guess we'll have to wait until January to find out...

[Spidey Rules 2]

What a great episode. SPOILERS..................


I couln't believe they were going to rape Sharon and apparently they had done it to the other cylon as well. Doing it to a toaster? Seems weird.

Galactica vs Pegasus....it seems kind of dumb for them to fight themselves when they have cylons to worry about. Though I agree with Adam, those guys didn't get a fair trial...then again, it's the military and they are in a time of war.

[Superfreak]

DAMMIT!!!! They did it to us AGAIN!!!! Now we gotta wait until January to see what plays out!!!

Admiral Caine scares me... somethings up here... is it possible that a whole Battlestar crew has descended to the worst level of mankind, proving the Cylons right??? Or is something more sinister behind it... could be it's a trap??? Perhaps the Pegasus crew was captured and brainwashed??? Send 'em back out and join up with Galactica and throw a tempting target like that mystery ship out on the table???

Guess we'll have to wait until January to find out...

still waiting for my DL to finish... but from what I remember from the original, Caine, and the crew of the Pegasus were rather crazy and bloodthirsty... and were all about warring without purpose. Conversely, the Galactica crew have had to contend with and support the fleet. I guess I'll dfind out in a n hour or so



edit:

That was wicked. And I hate them for it. I don't wanna wait 4 months for the conclusion. Evil evil writers.

The arrival was great... pent up frustration for joy, coupled with fear and power is how I look at the scene when Caine stepped of the Raptor. What a great scene.

All the conflict b/w characters is great. The rock hard pegasus crew, vs. our not so tough looking Galactica heros (in comparison). Lt. Thor had what was coming to him.

And lastly,I loved how quickly things decintegrated. There was like a minute left in the episode, and one phone call, sends an 'alliance' right into armed conflict. Wicked.

Question is: How is this gonna play out. Could Caine relent and resort to diplomacy... or will it go the distance. If that happens, how the hell is Galactica gonna challange that behemouth of a ship? And what about the 'giant' cylon ship. Wonder what's gonna happen there.

Great epi...

[Armand Z Trip]

Frakkin Zues that was a brilliant episode. It was just so depressing. It was unfortunate Adama and the Admiral did not discuss finding earth, or all the religious stuff with the President that must have been in the Galactica log, but I guess they only have so much tme per episode.

Adama immediatly handing over authority when it was so obviously a mistake, damn. I think it was like the ending of 28 days later when we find that people can always be worse than whatever monster or robot we can come up with. That in the face of a terrible enemy, we can always fight each other. I think the episode being so heavy handed was balanced by the story of the deck officer from the Pegasus, he doesn't say - I was kidnapped, I was forced into this, you people are so lucky; he doesn't have to, you can see it in his eyes.

It really put in perspective how the crew of the Galactica's insurbodination and personal struggles have helped the human race to survive. Grand Admiral Stucupbich would have had us wiped out many times over by now.

[Arsh]

Holy crap, you guys see the ending of Pegasus!? There's gonna be hell to pay. Can't wait till January, dammit. This episode was one of the best. The finale is too far away...

[TheCorpulent1]

"Pegasus" was one of those mid-season finales that made me drop my remote, stand up, and curse. DAMN, I want to see the ending of that! The rest of the episode was frackin' awesome, too. I don't even like Sharon all that much, but I was cheering when the Chief and Helo busted into the cell and kicked that sick interrogator bastard's ass. Oh, and did anyone else find it kind of weird when Mr. First Wave himself, Sebastian Spence, popped up? I kept expecting Crazy Eddie to hop out of the raptor and start chatting with the equally crazy Baltar. :D

I'm just speculating, but I have a feeling that the resolution to the conflict between Pegasus and Galactica will be that Admiral Cain learns that following the military rules and regulations to the letter is no longer a viable option when the very literal survival of the entire species is at stake. Adama's flexibility with bending rules has seen the fleet through a lot of rough times, and I think Cain will eventually see that when she sees the kind of passion and love he has for the whole fleet and humanity's survival. And then the Pegasus will be destroyed because keeping it around would remove too much of the tension that comes from the fleet being really, really weak. ;)

[Superfreak]

"Pegasus" was one of those mid-season finales that made me drop my remote, stand up, and curse. DAMN, I want to see the ending of that! The rest of the episode was frackin' awesome, too. I don't even like Sharon all that much, but I was cheering when the Chief and Helo busted into the cell and kicked that sick interrogator bastard's ass. Oh, and did anyone else find it kind of weird when Mr. First Wave himself, Sebastian Spence, popped up? I kept expecting Crazy Eddie to hop out of the raptor and start chatting with the equally crazy Baltar. :D

I'm just speculating, but I have a feeling that the resolution to the conflict between Pegasus and Galactica will be that Admiral Cain learns that following the military rules and regulations to the letter is no longer a viable option when the very literal survival of the entire species is at stake. Adama's flexibility with bending rules has seen the fleet through a lot of rough times, and I think Cain will eventually see that when she sees the kind of passion and love he has for the whole fleet and humanity's survival. And then the Pegasus will be destroyed because keeping it around would remove too much of the tension that comes from the fleet being really, really weak. ;)


not even that much of a lesson. I bet she has another mutiny on her hands... because attacking the colonial fleet is much different than a cylon staging area... and she'll relent. Then she'll learn that every life counts when there is only 4900 odd humans left to keep the species alive. Adama's leniancy has nothing to do with this

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, you're probably right. I guess I'm just a romantic. :p

[huskerwebhead]

not even that much of a lesson. I bet she has another mutiny on her hands... because attacking the colonial fleet is much different than a cylon staging area... and she'll relent. Then she'll learn that every life counts when there is only 4900 odd humans left to keep the species alive. Adama's leniancy has nothing to do with this

I think I agree with you here. I have a feeling that her CO is going to stand up to her and maybe have a few others fall in behind him. My question is this...how come that Battlestar and the Vipers havn't been infultrated by the Cylon viruses? They are new Battlestars and new Vipers...wouldn't they have been shut down just like the new ones in the miniseries?

And yes, I saw Sebastian Spence too. Good to see him working again...I loved him in First Wave.

[Superfreak]

I think I agree with you here. I have a feeling that her CO is going to stand up to her and maybe have a few others fall in behind him. My question is this...how come that Battlestar and the Vipers havn't been infultrated by the Cylon viruses? They are new Battlestars and new Vipers...wouldn't they have been shut down just like the new ones in the miniseries?

And yes, I saw Sebastian Spence too. Good to see him working again...I loved him in First Wave.

as far as I remember, in TOS, the same thing happened, and Caine was relieved. But the upcoming attack required Caine's strategic genius to make it a successful strike. The Pegasus was subsequently destroyed, but many of the vipers returned to Galactica... So you may see him potentially join the cast as a Pegasus survivor

[LadyVader]

Off Topic

For some reason I think the actress that plays Sharon would make a great Linda Park, if they ever made a Flash movie. :)

[Spidey Rules 2]

[QUOTE=huskerwebhead] My question is this...how come that Battlestar and the Vipers havn't been infultrated by the Cylon viruses? They are new Battlestars and new Vipers...wouldn't they have been shut down just like the new ones in the miniseries?
QUOTE]


I think they messed up there. This is the second time they goof.

Do you remember back when they were orbiting Kobos and they jumped after being surprised by a Cylon Base Ship. The Galactica ended up being alone because the other ships jumped to a different location. Galactica had to go back to Kobos, fight the Cylons and then jump to the correct location without getting infected with that computer virus. Then two weeks later, the President and her followers go back to Kobos. Galactica, after a while, decided to join them. Not once did anyone say, "But we can't go there, there is a Cylon Base Star there....REMEMBER?!?!?!"

If I'm wrong, please let me know. We need a cyclone smilie, I guess this is the closest thing: :cyclops:

[Superfreak]

[QUOTE=huskerwebhead] My question is this...how come that Battlestar and the Vipers havn't been infultrated by the Cylon viruses? They are new Battlestars and new Vipers...wouldn't they have been shut down just like the new ones in the miniseries?
QUOTE]


I think they messed up there. This is the second time they goof.

Do you remember back when they were orbiting Kobos and they jumped after being surprised by a Cylon Base Ship. The Galactica ended up being alone because the other ships jumped to a different location. Galactica had to go back to Kobos, fight the Cylons and then jump to the correct location without getting infected with that computer virus. Then two weeks later, the President and her followers go back to Kobos. Galactica, after a while, decided to join them. Not once did anyone say, "But we can't go there, there is a Cylon Base Star there....REMEMBER?!?!?!"

If I'm wrong, please let me know. We need a cyclone smilie, I guess this is the closest thing: :cyclops:

They all knew the Basestar wasn't there anymore... maybe you remember the last episode of the first season, Boomer nuked the bloody thing. I think you are mixed up. The jump from the first episode of the season, was not from Kobol... the fleet never went to Kobol, until Adama came out of his coma.

As for Pegasus... there hasn't been an explanation for that yet. But from what can be infered from the episode. Pegasus did an FTL jump straight from the Scorpion Fleet Yard... and blind FTL jump. Perhaps they jumped before the cylons could flash their snazzy red flashlight at the Pegasus. Moreover, the fact that Pegasus has a Six type Cylon in their brig, may be another reason why Pegasus hasn't been affected.

[Superfreak]

bump

[huskerwebhead]

[QUOTE=Spidey Rules 2]As for Pegasus... there hasn't been an explanation for that yet. But from what can be infered from the episode. Pegasus did an FTL jump straight from the Scorpion Fleet Yard... and blind FTL jump. Perhaps they jumped before the cylons could flash their snazzy red flashlight at the Pegasus. Moreover, the fact that Pegasus has a Six type Cylon in their brig, may be another reason why Pegasus hasn't been affected.

Hmm. I'd buy the first explination for the first encounter with them...but they said they have made attack runs ont he cylons since then. I'm sure during those battles they would have at least tried to infect them. Six may have given them some information to help defend against that though...I hadn't thought of that.

[Malice]

I agree everyone...I am so looking for the next season...

[Superfreak]

did a little blog searching and found some interesting info for the second half of season 2 starting in January.

there's going to be focus on the fabrication and maintenance of ships in the fleet. I have a feeling that Larry (the Pegasus conscript) will be joining the cast. Tyrell is good at putting stuff together, but lacks the knowledge of how things work. I think that Larry will become and important part of the Galactica deck crew.

[Malice]

I am so waiting for BG to return.
*goes thru BG withdrawl*

[Malice]

I am having withdrawl symptoms!
*shakes*
*drools*

Gimme some BG!

[Superfreak]

bump

[IT is Batgirl]

I just finished Seasons 1 and 2.0 on dvd this past week.

Kick ass.

[LadyVader]

I think Grace Park would be a great Linda Park if they ever make a Flash movie. They even share their last name, it's fate. :)

http://www.kineda.com/photos/grace_park.jpg

[Deathlok2001]

anyone watching the SPACE channels ( in Canada) ORIGINAL Battlestar
Galactica marathon?

[Superfreak]

tonight's the night *****es, been waiting months for this follow up to Pegasus

[LadyVader]

What? Tonight? Are you serious!?

[Spidey Rules 2]

I just finished Seasons 1 and 2.0 on dvd this past week.

Kick ass.

I only need two more episodes to finish Season 2 myself. I was extremely disappointed that there was no commentary for the episode "Pegasus". I have been listening to all of them and they have all been pretty interesting. With my luck there will be a new Season 2 box set that will contain the entire second season and that one WILL HAVE a commentary for Pegasus.

[Superfreak]

What? Tonight? Are you serious!?

gateworld says Erection Ship, Part 1 airs tonight

[Lord Blackbolt]

gateworld says Erection Ship, Part 1 airs tonight
ERECTION ship!!!!! You sure about that? Sounds sexy?:eek:

[Evelisse]

Well that was some good tv. :D

[LadyVader]

Was Erection Ship a solid episode? :D

Sorry, couldn't resist. :) I won't get to see it until Sunday, I have to get my kicks somehow.

[LadyVader]

gateworld says Erection Ship, Part 1 airs tonight

i have since found out that the title was RESURECTION Ship. :)
If you made a funny it was a lousy one! :O

[Superfreak]

i have since found out that the title was RESURECTION Ship. :)
If you made a funny it was a lousy one! :O

funny you say that after making jokes with my play on words (you know you like it)


finally got to watch: LV come on, the Rsurection ship is full of #6 's. That's definately an erection ship

Spoiling Beware
now, the epi was fantastic. From starbuck's timely arrival to stop the battle b/w galatica and pegasus, to the revelation of Larry's presence on the Pegasus, now Galactica was mint.

The assassination plot at the conclusion of the episode was fantastic, and I can't wait to see how both conspiracies play out, especially since they are both planned to occur at the same time. Also on the assassination note: I really like the parralelle between Adama's near death experience with Sharon, and the similarity that it shares with this new plot to get rid of Caine. Very interesting.

Lastly, this is the first time I think i've seen rosaline look really sick. And I suppose her time left on the show is limited.

Can't wait for next week.

[LadyVader]

Resurection Ship 1 Review

Thank God for the "Last time on Galactica" clips at the begining of the episode because this time I actually had no idea what had last happened before the season break. So... WAR! HUH! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!
Well, it's good for some long scenes featuring staring contests and raptors flying around like their pilots are on crack or something. This is one of the few times when BSG tried to create a tense situation, and allz I could do is sit there thinking: "COME ON! Somebody shoot something!"
Right. Well that was soon over with, when Blondie came back, and may I just say that everybody rushing over thinking she;s a cylon was a pretty cheap trick, not to mention a cliche. I think that happens to Starbuck every other freakin episode.
But she and Lee (pardon the rhyme) make such a cute couple then I can almost forgive it!
What we have in this episode is yet another proof that nobody is as nuckin futs as us humans! The cylons can try, but when it comes to sheer evil, humans take the cake. And speaking of Crucking Fazies, what about that President. I think whatever she's been smoking for strictly medicinal reasons is finally getting to her. Yup, she's talking about killing people and "hit them before they hit you". This is nothing like our season 1 Laura: "God has sent me to tell you: make love not war". Nope.
And speaking of cylons, they sure put up a lot of s@#t in this episode. Nearly getting raped, getting tortured, having a Blackbird fly right up their butthole, having a major weakness revealed. Allz I can say is, "It's about goddamn time!"
My favourite part of the episode has to be Kane and Adama making their plans to take eachother out at the same time. Cool transitions and I can just imagine what Starbuck is thinking: "Thought you'd never ask! There's room for only one stereotipical butch female on this show! Not to mention she's been making goo goo eyes at Lee. The ****** is going down".

Well, that's what I'd want her to think anyway. I'd give this episode a 3 out of 5. Lots of set up, lots of cool stuff but lacks unity and I don't think I'll really remember it at time goes by. Truly, next week's episode is going to kick all kinds of ass!

[Lurk]

Originally Posted by Malice
I am having withdrawl symptoms!
*shakes*
*drools*

Gimme some BG!

lol, you sound like me, my hubby, and our Battlestar buddy. Our buddy bought the first season DVDs before Christmas and brought them over to watch...I don't think we left the couch all weekend.:O

CAN'T WAIT to find out what happens 1/13!:up: :up:

[Malice]

Damn its great to see it again!

[Superfreak]

Spoilage Beware





So I've been thinking on the president. In Pegasus, they stated that she had about a month to live, if not shorter. In Resurection Ship Part 1, they basically outlined that Season 1, and the first half of Season 2 had amounted to a total of 6 months. So it's safe to assume that each 1/2 season is equal to about 3 months of time passed in the reality of BSG.

So I'm wondering, when do you people think she's gonna die. I'm banking on the season 2 finale. Especially after her behavior in Resurection Ship Part 1. She seemed very ill when talking to Adama the second time... and she also seemed to be getting radical, in her belief that Caine must be assassinated/retired. It seems that she is passing on her knowledge to the obvious next leader of the fleet.

So again, do you think she'll die during the second half of Season 2, or perhaps the finale? What are your thoughts

[Lurk]

This show always keeps me on my toes, so I have a feeling she'll pass (maybe not from the cancer, but protecting Adama? who knows!!) late in the season, and the finale will be the fleet achieving something dramatic 'in memorium' of their fallen leader (who pretty much pushed them to the point their at).

[LadyVader]

I think it depends on that prophecy really. If the prophecy says she'll die I'm beting my money she'll live and vice-versa. This may increase the feeling of loss and desperation within the fleet, to know that their gods are NOT watching out for them.
But hey... she could always be a cylon! And that illness was faked so she would get the support of the people behind her, seeing as they thought she was some kind of Mesiah.

And Superfreak, I actually just think it was the drugs talking. :)

[Spidey Rules 2]

I'll be surprised if she dies this season. She's one of the main characters.

[Lurk]

This may increase the feeling of loss and desperation within the fleet, to know that their gods are NOT watching out for them.

Interesting thought!

Anyone have any ideas where the god/gods/religion plot is going? An overall point the writers are trying to make?

[Superfreak]

well, since the begining of the pegasus arc, there hasn't been much mention of it. She hasn't had any acid trips lately either. Personally, I hope she totally trips out, but lives on a bit as purely an oracle. Totally straight jacket crazy, but in her inane babbling she tells the future (or something). Like the historical pythian oracle at Delphi.

That would leave baltar as president (isn't that the best idea ever?)

[Evelisse]

not really up to date on any spoilers but

anyone else notice the hand holding the gun to Cains head had bruised wrists? Possibly its the Pegasus' number Six cylon that does the deed on Cain.

[Cap1970]

not really up to date on any spoilers but

anyone else notice the hand holding the gun to Cains head had bruised wrists? Possibly its the Pegasus' number Six cylon that does the deed on Cain.

You know, I did see that. I remember thinking somehow that it wasn't Starbuck. I guess we'll find out Friday!

[Lurk]

good catch!

[Superfreak]

not really up to date on any spoilers but

anyone else notice the hand holding the gun to Cains head had bruised wrists? Possibly its the Pegasus' number Six cylon that does the deed on Cain.


I believe you are right,,, and I think this 'new' six is called Gina

[dpm07]

I believe you are right,,, and I think this 'new' six is called Gina

Yeah, in the previews it looks like the clothes that Gina's wearing.

[Evelisse]

That was pretty sweet, almost had me feeling sorry for Cain, almost.

Where do you hide that cylon, doubt he'd want her to far from him.

[Superfreak]

That was pretty sweet, almost had me feeling sorry for Cain, almost.

Where do you hide that cylon, doubt he'd want her to far from him.


good epi, but I thought the narrative was a little jumpy for my tastes. Where will Baltar hide Gina (and I suppose it will be Gina who kills Sharon2 for the baby, that's from the BSG recap from last week).

the president is looking worse yet again, and next weeks summary says something about her lying near death, while a whole bunch of other crap is going on, so I guess she'll be making an exit, probably at the end of the season.

The episode as a whole was good, and had spectacular shots. But as I mentioned before, had a very jumpy narrative, which I didn't like much. This episode just didn't seem to strike the same emotional note that has made me love this series. It was good, but it didn't have the same feeling as Hand of God. Moreover, the funeral at the end could have been better. Remember the funeral scene in You Can't Go Home Again part 1? I was expecting something a little more emotional like that episode.

All in all, a good epi, but I feel that it could/should have been better as the conclusion to a 3 part arc.

[Superfreak]

just like to add: i'm very suprised that there are so few of us on this board who watch this show

[Lord Blackbolt]

I wish Cain was around longer. And does anybody think the President will be replaced by a Cylon. Cause remember when she said...she would love a young Cylon body from the Ressurection ship? Foreshadowing maybe?

[Evelisse]

Baltar, has there been any definite proof he is not a cylon, I know he's had medical exams but thought cylons could pass them, to me it would explain the Six in his head talking to him, he's a sleeper and he doesnt realise it yet? With President dead him being vice pres would be set as head, Cylon President!?!?

just thinking about it is all.

[Deathlok2001]

SO what cylon weakness was revealed in this wekends show?

I saw none.

[dpm07]

Judging by the previews of the upcoming episode, it looks like they're going to do some kind of operation to save Rosalind through using the unborn cylon fetus. My guess is that they'll inject Sharon's amniotic fluid into Rosalind to put the cancer into remission or to get rid of the cancer.

This shouldn't affect the baby, but it might.

[Deathlok2001]

But the prophercy said a leader that leads them to cobalt is going to die...... so she has to die....

[Evelisse]

Doesn't say how she has to die, and really her not dieing would really make people second guess her and possibly lose faith leading to more drama :D

[dpm07]

Doesn't say how she has to die, and really her not dieing would really make people second guess her and possibly lose faith leading to more drama :D

Good point. She could live a long time or right up to the point that they actually find Earth (If they do).

[Superfreak]

Good point. She could live a long time or right up to the point that they actually find Earth (If they do).

well the prophecy says that she will never make it to earth. So she has to die eventually right.

I'm thinking on the cylons right now. They shot adama when he went up against the President right. Then when faced with the exact same threat with Caine, the Cylons also had a hand in her being killed.

So... is it a safe assumption that the cylons shot Adama 'by accident'. Meaning that the cylons know that a military leader will threaten Rosalin's command (and eventual discovery of earth) and that they jumped the gun when sending Sharon1 after Adama in Kobol's Last Gleaming Part 2? And that it was Caine they were waiting to kill, and that Adama was a mistake on their part?

[Evelisse]

So are you thinking the president is a cylon or there is one of her?

Only reason I'd say she wasnt for sure was because so far we haven't seen any old looking models of cylons, most have had the mid-20s early 30s age look so far. So it'd be something new.

[Superfreak]

So are you thinking the president is a cylon or there is one of her?

Only reason I'd say she wasnt for sure was because so far we haven't seen any old looking models of cylons, most have had the mid-20s early 30s age look so far. So it'd be something new.

I don't think she is a cylon. The cylons want the prophecy to come true. We know this b/c the one cylon convinced Starbuck that she was the chosen one. We also know this, because Sharon1 found Kobol, she also found the Tilium asteroid. Moreover, Sharon2 not only helped Starbuck return with the arrow, but also helped Rosalin find the map room in the tomb of athena.

It's my understanding that the cylons are trying to bring about the prophecy by aiding those who are pivotal in it's coming true. So far, we know that Starbuck, Rosalin and Sharon2 are those that are directly involved with the prophecy (the chosen one, the leader, and the lesser deamon). And they have all been aided by the cylons (epi: flesh and bone) or sharon2 who is a cylon.

So far, we've also seen cylons take drastic action, when any one interferes with Rosalin. First Adama is shot, then he sides with Rosalin, then when Caine threatens her leadership, she is killed.

So the question is this: why do the cylons want the prophecy to be fulfilled and why do they appear to be helping the key players in the prophecy?

[ultimatefan]

Gee, I can´t believe this thread isn´t bigger... I´m seeing the first season on TNT in my country... When I first heard of this, I thought "probably will be a cheap knock-off of the original, entertaining but cheesy, yadda yadda..." OHMYGOD was I talking outta my ass!! It whips the original show´s butt big time!! It´s Star Wars meets Blade Runner meets West Wing meets Saving Private Ryan!! The mix of classic sci-fi themes with the urgency of survival, the naturalistic dialogue and the innovative documentary look of the space scenes... this is the best sci-fi series of the decade so far, probably the best space series since Babylon 5!!

[Superfreak]

Gee, I can´t believe this thread isn´t bigger... I´m seeing the first season on TNT in my country... When I first heard of this, I thought "probably will be a cheap knock-off of the original, entertaining but cheesy, yadda yadda..." OHMYGOD was I talking outta my ass!! It whips the original show´s butt big time!! It´s Star Wars meets Blade Runner meets West Wing meets Saving Private Ryan!! The mix of classic sci-fi themes with the urgency of survival, the naturalistic dialogue and the innovative documentary look of the space scenes... this is the best sci-fi series of the decade so far, probably the best space series since Babylon 5!!

I keep asking the same question myself

[Cap1970]

Dark Horizons. com posted an article of Galactica spoilers. You can read them, if you choose to here:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/060117f.php

[Lord Blackbolt]

You know....I just don't trust that President's assistant. That young dude that follows her. I think he might be a Cylon as well. lol.

Also...why haven't we seen anything from the Cylon's perspective....like from last season. We used to see them talking to each other and stuff. I want to know more about them. Is there like a Cylon..LEADER?

[Lord Blackbolt]

You know....I just don't trust that President's assistant. That young dude that follows her. I think he might be a Cylon as well. lol.

Also...why haven't we seen anything from the Cylon's perspective....like from last season. We used to see them talking to each other and stuff. I want to know more about them. Is there like a Cylon..LEADER?

[Superfreak]

You know....I just don't trust that President's assistant. That young dude that follows her. I think he might be a Cylon as well. lol.

Also...why haven't we seen anything from the Cylon's perspective....like from last season. We used to see them talking to each other and stuff. I want to know more about them. Is there like a Cylon..LEADER?

did you miss the Lucy Lawless episode, there was some of that in there. Also, if you check out the 'spoilers' (they're more like episode descriptions that don't reveal much) we get an epi that is all about a cylon that is killed, and its subsequent resurection in a new body (I'm assuming that pregnant Sharon gets killed once the baby is born). And it will be all about her coming back to life. Caps spoilers say the epi is an indepth look at the Cylon society and culture. So that should be pretty damn interesting.


Caps spoilers also talk about the finale, and that sounds really interesting aswell. I can't wait to see how it all plays out, because the implications of the episode should be interesting. Questions arise such as: will the Cylons reveal the rest of their models as a show of good faith?

I'm excited for tonights episode. It also sounds really interesting: Rosaline on deaths door, Sharon's baby as a potential cure (I guess cylons are immune to cancer) and Baltar potentially becoming the acting president in her absence (which makes me grin)

[Lord Blackbolt]

Yeah...I'd rather avoid the spoilers.

[Evelisse]

Another fine episode tonight, drama, drama, drama.

Baltar BAH.

[War Lord]

The second season is shaping up awesomely.

Very much so.

[Cap1970]

Did anyone else think the images at the end of the episode of the President watching Sharon in her cell almost made Roslin look compassionate? I think the movement toward peace with the Cylons is a great plot device - this season is getting better with each episode.

[Superfreak]

yeah, this was unexpected, and I also like the shift back to internal conflict within the fleet. It should be quite interesting.

Now did I hear this right: Did Rosalin mumble "you're the father" as she pulled away from Baltar after her convulsions? That's what I heard upon watching the scene a couple of times.

[Donnie Darko]

what did yall think of the commercial with the baby? That was pretty sweet.

[LadyVader]

Oh boooy. They dropped the bomb! Literally!
:)
Loved the episode, the kind of stuff that stays with you. Galtar got his chance to shine this week, and just like Six noticed, there are aspects of this character we might never understand. After saving the president's life and being the hero of the day, he pulls a cuuurazy stunt like hading over a nuclear bomb.
I'm looking forward to next week. Who's making out with apollo!? Looks like a blonde :D but I think it's another flashback.

[Lurk]

Now did I hear this right: Did Rosalin mumble "you're the father" as she pulled away from Baltar after her convulsions? That's what I heard upon watching the scene a couple of times.
:eek::eek::eek:
OK, now I have to go back and rewatch that eppy! I thought she just recognized him makin' it with a cylon...

Which leads me to a question: Does Roslin know that Six is a cylon? Admiral Kaine did, Baltar obviously does, who else? Did anyone ever question the Six that came on (last season) to claim Baltar was a cylon? I'm getting confuzzled:confused: it's time to watch season 1 again.

[dpm07]

:eek::eek::eek:
OK, now I have to go back and rewatch that eppy! I thought she just recognized him makin' it with a cylon...

Which leads me to a question: Does Roslin know that Six is a cylon? Admiral Kaine did, Baltar obviously does, who else? Did anyone ever question the Six that came on (last season) to claim Baltar was a cylon? I'm getting confuzzled:confused: it's time to watch season 1 again.

I think Baltar is the only one who has seen Six from the Pegasus. Of course, when they did the surveillance on the Cylon ship, they may have seen what the models look like, with both the Six model as well as the D'Anna Biers model.

[LadyVader]

I don't know what it was but Helfer looked particularly lovely the last episode. :) Both looks, Six and Gina, she just looked good. And she's not a bad actress either, the two characters she plays are worlds apart.

[Superfreak]

the fleet knows that 6 is a cylon. If they didn't find out last season when she 'dissappeared' after accusing Baltar, they found out when Helo, Starbuck and Sharon2 returned from Caprica (as Helo had a couple of run ins with 6).

and we also know that the president is not a cylon, thanks to the latest episode

[Superfreak]

I don't know what it was but Helfer looked particularly lovely the last episode. :) Both looks, Six and Gina, she just looked good. And she's not a bad actress either, the two characters she plays are worlds apart.


agreed: Helfer doesn't really fit into the token 'supermodel' actress. She's got a hell of a lot of range. From her as the 'imaginary friend' (where she also pretended for a time to be like starbuck), as well as her new Gina persona. I look forward to watching her career post BSG... because I suspect she'll be going places.


oh yeah: anyone notice how Grace Park (the most vulnerable appearing cast member) is the BSG punching bag. She shot herself in the face, Helo shot her, Cally shot and killed her, she was raped(attmepted rape), and now she nearly had a forced abortion. She is another player on the show that has had quite a suprising and brutal time.

[LadyVader]

Unfortunately you can't be a member of a species that committed mass genocide and not suffer for it. I feel sorry for her character but at the same time it makes for some awesome story telling. I enjoyed her breakdown because it just makes me wonder how much cylons and humans are alike. She just went nuckin futs, typical for a person under the stress and pressure she has been under. Couple that with the natural crucking faziness associated with pregnant ladies and frankly I'm surprised she didn't jump on that train to wackovile earlier. :)

[Lurk]

Now did I hear this right: Did Rosalin mumble "you're the father" as she pulled away from Baltar after her convulsions? That's what I heard upon watching the scene a couple of times.

I rewatched and I think she mumbles, "Doctor Baltar..."

*shrug*

[Lurk]

the fleet knows that 6 is a cylon. If they didn't find out last season when she 'dissappeared' after accusing Baltar, they found out when Helo, Starbuck and Sharon2 returned from Caprica (as Helo had a couple of run ins with 6).

Does everyone know Gina shot Admiral Kaine?

[Superfreak]

Does everyone know Gina shot Admiral Kaine?

yeah, I think so, 6 has pretty much been all but identified

[huskerwebhead]

Baltar is driving me nuts. Just when I think he's going to come around and be a good guy he does something like the end of this last episode. So who else thinks that little "gift" will be used on the Pegasus?

[huskerwebhead]

yeah, I think so, 6 has pretty much been all but identified

I don't think "Everyone" knows. Obviously the crew of the Galactica and Pegasus do...but the rest of the fleet might not. I believe when Baltar went to see Six/Gina on Cloud 9 he asked her if they knew she was a Cylon. I thought she said no...or something to that effect.

[Lurk]

^Correctamundo, hence my confusion.

Loose Ends:
-What happened after Six came on Galacticus to accuse Baltar last season, then disappeared? (Adama seemed suspicious at the time, but there was a lot going on for him to be concerned about.)
-Do they know who killed Kaine?
-Who knows Six was a prisoner aboard the Pegasus? (Baltar, Admiral Kaine-Deceased, Pegasus guards/crew)
-Who knows she escaped? (Baltar)
-Who knows Six is a cylon? (Baltar, Admiral Kaine-Deceased, Pegasus guards/crew, Starbuck, Sharon, Helo, Roslin apparently does......the fleet/peace movement do NOT know)

[Lurk]

I got the following from http://battlestar.ugo.com/episodes/six-degrees.php

In his cell, Gaius prays for his god’s intervention, as he will most certainly be executed as a traitor. At this moment, Six comes back to comfort him, and soon afterwards, Gaeta returns to free him. The disc was a fake, though seemingly sloppy in its design, as if Gaeta were meant to uncover its falsehood. Shelly Godfrey disappears from the Galactica, despite being under marine watch, and President Roslin exonerates Gaius in front of the entire fleet, making him more powerful than ever.

Shelly’s disappearance proves almost as troubling as her appearance. She arrives as Six disappears to set Gaius down his path, yet vanishes when Six returns in the cell. She must exist; Adama discovering her glasses in the control room is proof of that. Yet still it’s uncertain exactly what kind of abilities the Cylons have.

So, I guess Six is a known risk, at least, to all of the higher-ups?

[Spidey Rules 2]

Well they know that the Admiral was shot and that 6 is missing from her prison cell, so I'm sure they figured it out.

Also, someone asked if the president knows that 6 is a cylon. The answer is yes, Baltar looked at a folder the president has of known cylons and there is a picture of her.

[Evelisse]

I'd really hate to see that nuke used to take out the Pegasus, after all the drama that came into it resurfacing. But would be some good stuff to see them back to one Battlestar alone and struggling, they had it to easy when they worked together in the Ressurection ship battle.

Side note, saw that supposedly Gina kills a cylon at some point, hope its someone new who gets revealed and not Boomer.

[Superfreak]

I'd really hate to see that nuke used to take out the Pegasus, after all the drama that came into it resurfacing. But would be some good stuff to see them back to one Battlestar alone and struggling, they had it to easy when they worked together in the Ressurection ship battle.

Side note, saw that supposedly Gina kills a cylon at some point, hope its someone new who gets revealed and not Boomer.


I'm kind of hoping it is sharon2 that gets killed. Because rumors point to an episode all about the ressurection of a cylon, which looks at the cylon way of life. It would be interesting to follow Sharon2's ressurection, and having to watch her deal with life after death away from the fleet.

[Spidey Rules 2]

I'm kind of hoping it is sharon2 that gets killed. Because rumors point to an episode all about the ressurection of a cylon, which looks at the cylon way of life. It would be interesting to follow Sharon2's ressurection, and having to watch her deal with life after death away from the fleet.

Does this mean that there is another Reserection Ship?

Someone mentioned wanting to see more cylon interaction. I'm for this too and not just the human looking ones, I want to see the new and old cylons interacting with each other. Even if it's just for one of them to give a command and the other to say "By your command".

[Evelisse]

I guess I just really like Sharon2, I like so far where they've taken her in the show, not that it is certain whos side she is on but for now I feel so far leaning toward the humans. Would hate for them to start all over again with her, want her to have the baby see where the story line goes.

[huskerwebhead]

Gee, I can´t believe this thread isn´t bigger... I´m seeing the first season on TNT in my country... When I first heard of this, I thought "probably will be a cheap knock-off of the original, entertaining but cheesy, yadda yadda..." OHMYGOD was I talking outta my ass!! It whips the original show´s butt big time!! It´s Star Wars meets Blade Runner meets West Wing meets Saving Private Ryan!! The mix of classic sci-fi themes with the urgency of survival, the naturalistic dialogue and the innovative documentary look of the space scenes... this is the best sci-fi series of the decade so far, probably the best space series since Babylon 5!!

Is this really all that suprising? The thread with the most posts in this forum is "Wrestling." Ugh.

[ultimatefan]

Is this really all that suprising? The thread with the most posts in this forum is "Wrestling." Ugh.
Double ugh...

[Cap1970]

So is anyone else curious where this whole Apollo / Dee thing goes? With Starbuck as a potential love triangle it could be promising, but maybe I'm missing something - we've seen like two whole scenes of Dee/Apollo - the hand to hand combat scene and the scene after he's rescued after ejecting and she's outside the room while he's talking to Starbuck...

I have no idea why I thought of this now, but like I said - is anyone curious about this?

Spoiler ahead....

And I'm not sure I like the whole "POOF the cancer is gone" thing either.

[Lurk]

I agree that "Voila! You're healed!" was a little sketchy when the show's writing is usually sooo good. I'm wondering, will Roslin develop an amalgam of some sort (like the cylon child?) now that she has super-cylon-immunities coursing through her?

[Lurk]

My main curiosities (that I can think of at the moment):
1. Dee/Apollo/Starbuck, Apollo/Starbuck/Caprica-guy...what's the point, where is it going? What happens when they go back to Caprica to rescue the survivors?
2. God versus gods...what, ultimately, are the writers trying to convey to the audience?
3. HOW is Sharon/Helo's baby BALTAR/SIX's child?!?
4. Why was the Pegasus brought into the storyline (Surely not just for Admiral Kaine and Gina?)? What will it's future role be given the very different attitudes of the crews?

Could someone clarify, was Helo taking anti-radiation meds when he was stuck on Caprica? How did he get them?

[huskerwebhead]

My main curiosities (that I can think of at the moment):
1. Dee/Apollo/Starbuck, Apollo/Starbuck/Caprica-guy...what's the point, where is it going? What happens when they go back to Caprica to rescue the survivors?
2. God versus gods...what, ultimately, are the writers trying to convey to the audience?
3. HOW is Sharon/Helo's baby BALTAR/SIX's child?!?
4. Why was the Pegasus brought into the storyline (Surely not just for Admiral Kaine and Gina?)? What will it's future role be given the very different attitudes of the crews?

Could someone clarify, was Helo taking anti-radiation meds when he was stuck on Caprica? How did he get them?

1. Should be interesting. THough I don't know that they are ever going to go back to Caprica. I'm betting we've seen the last of that planet. Kaine wanted to go back...but she's out of the picture now.
2. Not sure here either.
3. I don't think they were being literal when they said it was "their baby." I took it in two ways. One, "they" are there to protect it...do everything to make sure it's born and survives. Sort of surragate parents. Two, Their baby as in Human and Cylon's baby. Not any one couple specifically...That make sense?
4. I agree, this will be interesting. I imagine there will still be some tension between the crews. And I assume that the crews were "de-integrated?"

It looked like every soldier had a basic medical pack that had the anti-radiation meds in them. And I thought when they found that underground bunker they found some meds there as well.

[Superfreak]

1. Should be interesting. THough I don't know that they are ever going to go back to Caprica. I'm betting we've seen the last of that planet. Kaine wanted to go back...but she's out of the picture now.
2. Not sure here either.
3. I don't think they were being literal when they said it was "their baby." I took it in two ways. One, "they" are there to protect it...do everything to make sure it's born and survives. Sort of surragate parents. Two, Their baby as in Human and Cylon's baby. Not any one couple specifically...That make sense?
4. I agree, this will be interesting. I imagine there will still be some tension between the crews. And I assume that the crews were "de-integrated?"

It looked like every soldier had a basic medical pack that had the anti-radiation meds in them. And I thought when they found that underground bunker they found some meds there as well.

yep, that's about it, and yes, Helo and sharon2 found anit-radiation meds in the bunker.

[Lurk]

But Sharon2 didn't need the meds....I can't remember, did she know she was a cylon all along? How did that play-out?

I really REALLY need to rewatch the first season.

3. I don't think they were being literal when they said it was "their baby." I took it in two ways. One, "they" are there to protect it...do everything to make sure it's born and survives. Sort of surragate parents. Two, Their baby as in Human and Cylon's baby. Not any one couple specifically...That make sense?

Interesting! I hadn't considered that.

[Lurk]

Based on the following spoilers from http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/060117f.php, it sounds like most of my questions might be answered soon.
Q4.There's an episode where Lee has to deal with the new commander of the Pegasus [This person is not the second-in-command whom we met during "Resurrection Ship" episodes]. It turns out the guy who had been in charge was deep into the black market. Another guy is put in charge, he's a bit paranoid. And he's really not up to the task of command. The Pegasus continues to be a troubled ship for the rest of the season."

Q2 and Q3.There's an episode down the line that we're really excited about, the entire episode is told from the Cylon point of view: what their society is like, what they go through during reincarnation and when they're born again. We really get inside the Cylon [society] and get to view that for the first time.

[huskerwebhead]

Q2 and Q3.There's an episode down the line that we're really excited about, the entire episode is told from the Cylon point of view: what their society is like, what they go through during reincarnation and when they're born again. We really get inside the Cylon [society] and get to view that for the first time.

THAT sounds like a great episode. I'm stoked for that one.

[dpm07]

Based on the following spoilers from http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/060117f.php, it sounds like most of my questions might be answered soon.
Q4.There's an episode where Lee has to deal with the new commander of the Pegasus [This person is not the second-in-command whom we met during "Resurrection Ship" episodes]. It turns out the guy who had been in charge was deep into the black market. Another guy is put in charge, he's a bit paranoid. And he's really not up to the task of command. The Pegasus continues to be a troubled ship for the rest of the season."

Q2 and Q3.There's an episode down the line that we're really excited about, the entire episode is told from the Cylon point of view: what their society is like, what they go through during reincarnation and when they're born again. We really get inside the Cylon [society] and get to view that for the first time.

Looks like some really great things coming up. This is definitely one of the best shows on right now.

[Superfreak]

But Sharon2 didn't need the meds....I can't remember, did she know she was a cylon all along? How did that play-out?

I really REALLY need to rewatch the first season.



Interesting! I hadn't considered that.

yes, sharon2 knew that she was a cylon all along.

[Superfreak]

it's battlestar night

[Cap1970]

Pretty good episode..still no real resolution to Lee/Dee, but I think Adama's decision to fully back Lee about the dealings on Promethius (sp?) is a big step in their father/son relationship.

Any ideas on who the woman was? Did I miss something in the mini-series?

[Landis-Wolf]

Any news on a season 2 boxset? Its becoming increasingly hard to avoid spoilers.
(Brought season 1, cant afford to buy season 2.0 and season 2.5)

[Lurk]

Whoo!! BSG time!


Sorry...got a little carried away :O

[ultimatefan]

Any news on a season 2 boxset? Its becoming increasingly hard to avoid spoilers.
(Brought season 1, cant afford to buy season 2.0 and season 2.5)
I really hope I can get this show on DVD in Brazil, there aren´t many shows I´d buy DVDs for - these boxes are pretty expensive, you know -, but this one is a must.

[Spidey Rules 2]

As far as I know, box sets are only available for seasons 1 and 2.0.


SPOILERS:


I liked the episode and was surprised by Lee's actions at the end. The girl he kept thinking of was his girlfriend, she died during the cylon attack. This is the first time they mentioned her so no, you did not missing anything. Is it me or do other people think that the Pegasus needs to have security outside the COs door. Two COs killed in a manner of weeks, in the same place, that's bad.

[Superfreak]

Hey Lurk, here's another point of interest for you:

anyone notice that the number on the presidents white board hasn't changed to take into account the arrival of the Pegasus? I mean you'd expect that ship to have a significant number of people on board. The number's been hovering around 49500 for a while.

[Lurk]

I hardly dare to blaspheme the Great Galactica, but.......was anyone else kind of, um, bored by last night's eppy? I'm hoping it's leading up to something mind-blowing, but I really thought it just meh. :(

Hey Lurk, here's another point of interest for you:

anyone notice that the number on the presidents white board hasn't changed to take into account the arrival of the Pegasus? I mean you'd expect that ship to have a significant number of people on board. The number's been hovering around 49500 for a while.

WHY must you keep making me rewatch episodes?!?:mad:;):p

[Lurk]

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[Honey Vibe]

I wish I knew what was going on iin Battlestar Galactica. I saw the first episode a couple years ago (?) and didn't like it. I wish I had given it a better chance;; now I'm totally lost...

[Cap1970]

I hardly dare to blaspheme the Great Galactica, but.......was anyone else kind of, um, bored by last night's eppy? I'm hoping it's leading up to something mind-blowing, but I really thought it just meh. :(



WHY must you keep making me rewatch episodes?!?:mad:;):p

Yeah, I kinda was - sort of like I was waiting for something good to happen, and then...not much.

Based on the earlier post I made about the subject matter of future episodes, I'm looking forward to a few things, so I can handle the occasional so-so episode.

:(

[Superfreak]

I wish I knew what was going on iin Battlestar Galactica. I saw the first episode a couple years ago (?) and didn't like it. I wish I had given it a better chance;; now I'm totally lost...

the miniseries wasn't so hot, but the opening episodes of season 1 really set the tone for the rest of the series.

As for what's going on, go get the first season on dvd, because it's really too hard to explain it, with mutiple copies of the same character walking around, explanation becomes impossible.

[dpm07]

Something's happened to Roslind I think. Maybe some kind of nanobots in her system from the cylon amniotic fluid. She's definitely more aggressive.

Has anyone noticed how both the Cylons and the humans have matriarchial leaders? I wonder if there is relevance on the part of the creators. There is so much symbolism and metaphors in the show on many levels both theologically, politically, and in other areas.

[Sentry2005]

the miniseries wasn't so hot, but the opening episodes of season 1 really set the tone for the rest of the series.

As for what's going on, go get the first season on dvd, because it's really too hard to explain it, with mutiple copies of the same character walking around, explanation becomes impossible.

i loved the mini personally... i think i'm weird :ghost:

[Superfreak]

i loved the mini personally... i think i'm weird :ghost:

I liked it, didn't love it though. Parts of it were really long. The series has improved upon it much.

[LadyVader]

What matters is that it was good enough and popular enough to make a show. :) I wonder if that was the plan all along. Some stuff happened, like Helo and Boomer getting stuck on Caprica, that was left unresolved by the end of the mini series. Did the producers intend to make a long running show all along?

[Superfreak]

What matters is that it was good enough and popular enough to make a show. :) I wonder if that was the plan all along. Some stuff happened, like Helo and Boomer getting stuck on Caprica, that was left unresolved by the end of the mini series. Did the producers intend to make a long running show all along?

yes

[Spidey Rules 2]

What matters is that it was good enough and popular enough to make a show. :) I wonder if that was the plan all along. Some stuff happened, like Helo and Boomer getting stuck on Caprica, that was left unresolved by the end of the mini series. Did the producers intend to make a long running show all along?

The producers hoped to make it a long series, but if I remember correctly from the commentaries, they were going to forget all about Helo. Since Helo was well liked and he did a good job they decided to continue his story. Then he met Boomer #2.

[ultimatefan]

I´m watching the miniseries and I think it´s damn good. If the series itself is better, well, count me as an addict.

[LadyVader]

Scar

Excellent episode. Katee Sachef did a good job of portraying a depressed jaded damn near suicidal Starbuck. It's all in the eyes...
I am however struck by the fact that she's all of the sudden so in love with this Anders guy since they only spent a couple of days together and Apollo has been there for years!!! Ok, maybe he represents some good in her life but definetely not her entire life!
I also loved the idea that raiders can have distinct personalities, and they do in fact feel something.

[huskerwebhead]

I liked this last episode alot too. While it's what I call a "fluff" episode (story unto itself...mainly for character development...doesn't really forward the series' plot in any way) I still enjoyed it. Kinda took Starbuck down a couple notches.

[huskerwebhead]

Bump. This needs to stay on the first page dammit. :mad:

[Superfreak]

yeah, scar was good. Coulda been better, yet it still maintains the high level of quality that BSG is always good for. My only beef is this: the only action that we've seen this season, has been interfered with by creative approaches to that action. In both Ressurection ship, and Scar, I was hoping to see a set battle, like in Hand of God. But this season, they've been doing this weird flashback thing, which I'm getting bored of. I don't want see something, and then get a caption in the next cut saying "48 hours earlier".

Like, I really would have liked to see the dogfight with Scar in its entirety at the end of the episode... just as in resurrection ship, the battle just happened, but was splitup into a pretty montage of death, rather than a flowing narrative of battle etc.

Otherwise, good.

[Lurk]

These last few eppys have a different 'feeling' than the first season (and even the first half season 2). I agree, the flashbacks are getting annoying. That's a technique soap operas use a lot when they need filler :mad: I hate that.

I'm sort of surprised at Starbuck's reaction to Anders, but I guess sometimes you just meet that person you click with. It can't help that he is still 'home' and possibly dead. That's gotta frak with her head. The scene with Lee was way sexy! I love the tension, they did that perfectly. They're both so frustrated and pent up, but they really do care about each other. I loved the pissed look on Lee's face after Starbuck slapped him and kissed him, like gods dammit, how am I supposed to react to that?!?!

Kat has gotta go. I guess the writers are using her to develop Starbuck, to expose her weaknesses and highlight her growth, but I want to STRANGLE the stem junkie! I wish Starbuck had broken Kat's stein over head when she said 'My cup runneth dry'; she wouldn't have had a shot if Starbuck didn't set it up!!! Argh, stupid.

[Lurk]

So......where was Baltar? Six? Gina? Roslin? Adama? Tigh? Mrs. Tigh? Dee? It seems like the individual storylines were intertwined better in the first season. Now it's one person's story one week, another person's the next. I prefer to see the ripple effect and how the ripples change and affect each other.

This is sort of a weird description, but it's as if in the first season the writers tossed a handful of stones into a puddle and recorded the magic. Now, it's like they'll toss in a stone, wait for the ripples to fade, then toss in another. Does that makes sense?

[Superfreak]

stim junky

[Cap1970]

Now that Lucy Lawless is coming back, here's hoping she has a scene where she snaps Kat's neck or something.

I was really hoping that Kat would buy it in the last episode.

[Lurk]

stim, stem, whatever. don't make me zap you:cyclops: ;)

[Evelisse]

Thought it was good episode again, yet I do agree its time to move the show along and finally choose which way they heading for sure, back to Caprica or Earth.



Anyone else notice them having Starbuck and Apollo doing and planing there work on Galactica, leaving no excuse for them not to make the Pegasus Go BOOM!

[Superfreak]

Thought it was good episode again, yet I do agree its time to move the show along and finally choose which way they heading for sure, back to Caprica or Earth.



Anyone else notice them having Starbuck and Apollo doing and planing there work on Galactica, leaving no excuse for them not to make the Pegasus Go BOOM!

you know, before that happens, I'd really like to see a Pegasus Centric episode. We haven't seen anything about the Pegasus and its crew. How are they coping with being with the fleet, how does life on Pegasus differ from life on Galactica etc.

Like the upcoming Cylon episode, it would be interesting to learn a little more about the pegasus.

[PWN3R]

I´m watching the miniseries and I think it´s damn good. If the series itself is better, well, count me as an addict.

I am the same way, they had a marathon the other day, and I just happen to skip, wow...I can't say I got into the old show, but this is really good stuff :up:

[Marc]

Only recently caught up with the episodes from having saw one of series 2 that grabbed me. Originally I avoided it like the plague because I thought the premise was dumb but I was way off. I should know better when Ron Moore is involved (excluding voyager).

Have to say this series is fantastic, best Sci-Fi on TV I have seen since Babylon 5 except it has started much stronger. Love it. Acting is fantastic, Adama is from Ultimate Force! Liked that show too. Love how its mostly character driven which is generally what the best sci-fi does, uses the genre to express every human emotion and growth since you can place them in any situation conceivable.

Baltar is probably my favourite character just because he is so deep and such a three dimensional character. Everything he does has a purpose or a place the decision has come from. Don't exactly like all his choices but he is human, he represents the very best (intelligence) and very worst (betrayal) of mankind. Its almost like the Baltar show at times as he always seems to be involved, which is good for me at least. Plus where Baltar is, she is. ;)

A few things I'd like to see:

- Since Adama is now an Admiral, he should take command of the pegasus since it is the best ship. Rename it to Galactica and move the crew over.

- As with above, in anycase the Pegasus no longer has a commander as far as I can tell. So shouldn't someone be promoted to take command? Thats Adama's decision. Why not someone like his son as it'd create the obvious conflict with the crew that maybe he was favoured and people on the ship passed over.

- Baltar is very rational but like all men have their weaknesses, I'd like to see him stand on his own as an individual and fight back more in arguments. He seems to fold a lot when he has to put effort into something. He obviously doesn't believe in God, and he is smart enough to know that he is being manipulated but he just lets it happen anyway. Maybe due to being glad to be alive at all. But I'd like to see him take charge and start manipulating people on his own accord, which he must be good at since he gets women to do what he wants usually. Hopefully we are starting to see this with how he reacted to the asking of his resignation. Then again, I would have liked to have seen him resign but then refuse to do anything for the fleet and see how they cope. Get them to come begging to him, since they rely on him for basically anything that requires half a brain. Also, how come he didn't go straight up to Helo when coming on board and saying "Thanks buddy!". I don't think they have even had a scene together.

- I think considering the fact that the characters are being hunted down and just had their civilization turned to ruins, that they don't exactly think about it much. Would like to see characters discuss their theories and idea's about the cylons, how they work, the reasoning behind their attack, how they can be defeated, what they need to do to rebuild an empire to fight back and so on. Basically more long term strategy now they have some breathing room to think.

The 'Scar' episode was good, although it felt like a rip from Space: Above and Beyond to be honest.

Evelisse - Well as starbuck showed, she made it back in a few jumps. I think they could head to Earth but go back home at any time, its just that they need to take baby steps to explore space and plot things otherwise they might jump into an asteroid or whatever. So going forward into the unknown takes a long time but their jumpdrives are instant meaning they can go back a lot easier. Starbuck will press the issue I am sure.

[huskerwebhead]

OMG. I...can't...believe...they....killed Billy

I'm just....just....Wow.

[Darthphere]

Damn, he was a great character too. Just never gave him much to do.

[Spidey Rules 2]

I still want to hear the old and new cylons (not the human looking ones) talk or at least give orders to one another.

[Superfreak]

well, that solves the first love triangle problem...

good epi, finally got to see the whole baby preview, which was pretty cool.

The long shots of sharon at the conclusion of the episode: what are you're perspectives on that? Is she helping the fleet? or is she just a pawn in a greater game of chess?

[Cap1970]

The 'Scar' episode was good, although it felt like a rip from Space: Above and Beyond to be honest.

Absolutely. This episode, minus Kat's annoying un-soldier like behavior (not to mention gross insubordination) had the exact premise of 'The Angriest Angel' from SAAB.

For what it's worth, SAAB's version was better in plot, acting, and overall character development. I sincerely wish that show had lived beyond Season One. It was ahead of its time.

[Marc]

The latest ep's seems to steer away from comments by Ron and how the first series started out, episodes are starting to look at lot more individual, less episodic/serial. Which isn't good in my mind. :( Also it doesn't exactly reflect good on characters this ep. I mean it makes Dualla look like a complete ***** for not telling Billy about Apollo. And Apollo almost dying again is playing that card a little too early after just 'recovering' from the spacing. Billy was a good character and very open and honest, so I assume that means he is a cylon and we'll see him again. Plus the whole terrorist thing again seems to be pushing it. Terrorism is a minority, rebellion is a significant portion... with a population of 40,000+ its seems there is a large percentage targeting itself. So at that point it should be civil war or at least a rebellion.

For example why does anyone have to follow any laws set down from the battlestar, just turn a ship into a country/state with its own laws. And soldiers don't have to follow orders as their contracts are based on pay, they are no longer paid so have no legal reason to follow orders. If they are going to go the populace unrest route then I'd like to see it properly, rather than dancing around it with multiple factions every other episode. With the pegasus, zarek, this woman, the cylon sympathizers, the black market and so on. Oh and one love triangle down, another starts up with Starbuck overlooking. Its a bit.... blargh... over the place. No real strong relationships, seems love is very cheap and thrown around at the turn of a head.

Cap - Yeah, I have to say judging by the editing I think it was probably even more of a rip off. As it seemed like they chopped and changed things to try and differentiate it.

S:AAB's was definitely better, one of the best single episodes of any show IMO. Had everything, very epic and almost the making of myth. It was a good show that deserved better.

[Superfreak]

Absolutely. This episode, minus Kat's annoying un-soldier like behavior (not to mention gross insubordination) had the exact premise of 'The Angriest Angel' from SAAB.




every fighter jock tv show/ movie always has the same plots. It's the maverick and goose complex.

SAAB had a better idea on how to do the story, but poor budget dragged the show way down. BSG has improved on the space battleship idea 100 fold

[Evelisse]

Billy a Cylon, yea I could see that, what would really rock the boat is having Dualla turn out to be a cylon, after hooking up and developing a relationship with Apollo, I know its unlikely but something I could see happening.

[Cap1970]

every fighter jock tv show/ movie always has the same plots. It's the maverick and goose complex.

SAAB had a better idea on how to do the story, but poor budget dragged the show way down. BSG has improved on the space battleship idea 100 fold

I don't know if it's Maverick and Goose complex or not - but I was mainly talking about the storytelling and character development. Even the "backstory" of Scar was reminiscent of Chiggy Von Richtofen - all was needed was "ABANDON ALL HOPE" on the skin of the vehicle and it would have been a perfect ripoff.

I will agree with you the BSG is better written as a space battleship theory, there could have been a better way to write a story like "Scar." I don't get paid the money to do that kind of thing, but as a fan of both shows, the parallels were a little too close for my liking.

[LetsHangBendis]

Well, I'm starting to get bored with BSG. Every episode is certainly tense, and well written, but they're all starting to blend together. Too man civil unrest and not enough plot developtment.

I have a feeling Ron Moore only wanted a 3 season story, that would have a clear beginning, middle, and end. And Sci Fi wants to stretch the show out. Becuase all his main arc episodes are fantastic, 33, Ressurection Ship, etc, whereas the filler episodes are just that, filler.

Either way, the rest of Season 2 seems to be Main Story eps, with the possible exception of tonights.

[Superfreak]

Well, I'm starting to get bored with BSG. Every episode is certainly tense, and well written, but they're all starting to blend together. Too man civil unrest and not enough plot developtment.

I have a feeling Ron Moore only wanted a 3 season story, that would have a clear beginning, middle, and end. And Sci Fi wants to stretch the show out. Becuase all his main arc episodes are fantastic, 33, Ressurection Ship, etc, whereas the filler episodes are just that, filler.

Either way, the rest of Season 2 seems to be Main Story eps, with the possible exception of tonights.

dude, look at the season as a whole, the first 7 episodes were one arc, ending with the fleet all happy and on the way to earth proper.

then there was 2 fillers

then there was the 3 part pegasus arc, the episode with the president almost dying, but saved by sharon's baby.

and then 3 filler episodes.

what a short memory you have. There has been very little filler this season. The last three, I agree, have been rather poor, and don't seem like they'll go anywhere. But five filler episodes out of a total of sixteen... that's hardly something to complain about.




on with the show: They finally put the preview up on the website. Tonight's episode looks wicked. I hope it doesn't crap out... It's the dad from Home
Alone!! Anyhow, tonight looks good.

[Evelisse]

Wow, was a good night of tv, I guess I stand corrected and the Pegasus isn't going anywhere at least for now. Baltar.... :( well played,

[Darthphere]

Man, great episode, sometimes I wonder how they can get such good effects on a tv show.

[Superfreak]

diddo, that was a cool epi...

Doc Cottle is awesome. He's the most disgruntled character in the cast. I like the social implications of the epi, and how it was balanced with a relatively cool battle.

I don't think that the 'beast' will be around for too much longer though. Mainly because I think having a Commander Adama, and an Admiral Adama is a little too much.

Can I say that the character interaction was really good in the epi... and we got to see Dee prance around. I think she's the only central female character that hadn't gotten naked yet (besides the president of course).

[dpm07]

Great episode! I noticed on the previews that Sharon is on what appears to be Caprica. It also looks like her and Lucy Lawless had some kind of battle. Both look a little roughed up. Going to be sweet watching Xena throw down again.

Did I miss something though? I thought Sharon II was still alive on Galactica and pregnant. Is there now a Sharon III?

[Darthphere]

"There are many copies..."

[Evelisse]

Actually I believe it is a sort of flashback Sharon is going to have, starting from when her one copy was shot on Galactica through her resurrection and drama leading up to her accepting her place and meeting up with Helo on Caprica. I believe the entire episode will be taken from the cylons point of view, should be interesting.

[dpm07]

Actually I believe it is a sort of flashback Sharon is going to have, starting from when her one copy was shot on Galactica through her resurrection and drama leading up to her accepting her place and meeting up with Helo on Caprica. I believe the entire episode will be taken from the cylons point of view, should be interesting.

That makes sense, Evelisse. I hadn't considered that option, but I think you're right. It seems like I read somewhere where they were going to do an episode from the Cylons point of view. This could be it.

Good thinking there.

[Darthphere]

Actually I believe it is a sort of flashback Sharon is going to have, starting from when her one copy was shot on Galactica through her resurrection and drama leading up to her accepting her place and meeting up with Helo on Caprica. I believe the entire episode will be taken from the cylons point of view, should be interesting.


Yeah, its the SHaron that Cally killed onboard Galactica being resurrected.

[Donnie Darko]

I gotta say, Friday's episode was awesome. And just when I'm getting sick of the lack of Baltar on the show, he shows up again and completely dominates although he's only in a few scenes.

[Darthphere]

Hes the Lex Luthor of BSG.

[huskerwebhead]

Baltar....that guy. Arrgghhh....Never loved to hate any character so much. He is really starting to come into his own. He did a great job of spinning things in his favor....and that smug look at the end of the episode. Wow. And I agree, I don't see Lee being in command for too long....two Adama Battlestars is a little much. But it was great to see him take control. Very nicely done.

[Darthphere]

Baltar....that guy. Arrgghhh....Never loved to hate any character so much. He is really starting to come into his own. He did a great job of spinning things in his favor....and that smug look at the end of the episode. Wow. And I agree, I don't see Lee being in command for too long....two Adama Battlestars is a little much. But it was great to see him take control. Very nicely done.



Chances are the Pegasus isnt going to be around for too long. It just feels redundant to me and with Lee in Command of the Pegasus it pretty much isolates him from the rest of the characters, so yeah id count on the Pegasus blowing up soon.

[Donnie Darko]

I just hope Lee isn't on board when that happens

[Darthphere]

If any show had the balls to kill off a main character it would be Battlestar Galactica. I share your hope Lee doesnt die.

[Evelisse]

By the end of the show I really don't see both Adamas being alive at the end one will die in some heroic last ditch effort for something.

[Donnie Darko]

I could see that happening, but my money would probably be on Starbuck going out in the blaze of glory.

[Darthphere]

Possible spoilers regarding Starbuck:

Apparently around the net theres some proof that ANders or w/e his name is (the head of the human resistance on Caprica that banged Starbuck) is in fact a Cylon.

[LadyVader]

The one character I feel the writers of the show are screwing up is Duala. They're making her less and less likeable, espcially with the fans that actually gave a damn about Billy, like me for instance. The guy has been dead less then a month and already she is shacking up with Lee.
The show is dramatic enough already (it really is). We don't need pointless romantic overtones!

[Lurk]

I agree, Lady, romance/sexiness is far more effective when it's subtle and discreet. I instantly frowned when the eppy started with Dualla nekid with Lee...blech! Give some me real action, like with cylons and spacecrafts!! Grrrr....

But overall, very enjoyable eppy. CANNOT WAIT for next week's!!

[Darthphere]

Possible spoilers regarding Starbuck:

Apparently around the net theres some proof that ANders or w/e his name is (the head of the human resistance on Caprica that banged Starbuck) is in fact a Cylon.


Also if you watch the preview for this week's episode theres a scene where Sharon falls on top of a person trying to shoot her on Caprica and its Anders

[Darthphere]

The thing thta bothers me the most about DeeLee is that where did all this romantic tension they speak of come from. Theres maybe one scene in the whole series that suggested it but it all seems force. And about Billy, I think that he took the relationship seriously while Dee did have feelings for him wasnt genuinely in love with him. The marriage proposal took her off guard and made her realize that she didnt want to be with him the rest of her life, because she didnt love him that way.

[Flame on!]

I am so behind on this show, it's untrue. I only just watched the miniseries.

I think I was put off because I was a massive fan of the original, and in many ways I still prefer it. I'm a sucker for models blowing up and Han Solo-esque flight suits I guess.

I'm gonna carry on watching though.

[LadyVader]

The thing thta bothers me the most about DeeLee is that where did all this romantic tension they speak of come from. Theres maybe one scene in the whole series that suggested it but it all seems force. And about Billy, I think that he took the relationship seriously while Dee did have feelings for him wasnt genuinely in love with him. The marriage proposal took her off guard and made her realize that she didnt want to be with him the rest of her life, because she didnt love him that way.

She was the one that jumped up and kissed him first if I recall corectly, so he wasn't just imagining stuff. And even if, let's say, you're right and Billy still cared a lot more about her then she did about him, he still died in her arms, he still died trying to prove himself worthy of her. Now I may be a little on the softy side, but if some guy died in my arms, protecting me, even if it was a guy I hated, I would spend a lot more then a month mourning him. Maybe a month and a half, but still! And in the episode I think it's obvious they were doing it for a while now. And I agree with you... where is this attraction coming from!?

[Darthphere]

Thats what bothers me the most, there was no set-up for this romance, one scene when theyre training and they give each other a long look isnt enough for me to set up a romance. That and considering Lee was semi in love with a hooker like 2 months ago.

[roach]

hey when any day could be your last there is no time for build up

[LadyVader]

And that's why Billy's decision to propose to her makes a lot more sense then her jumping into bed with Adama.

Like I said, this is not the character's fault. It's just plain bad writing.

[Darthphere]

And that's why Billy's decision to propose to her makes a lot more sense then her jumping into bed with Adama.

Like I said, this is not the character's fault. It's just plain bad writing.


Sadly I think a month is plenty of time to move on. But im a guy so take that as you will. Also considering she was already shacking up with Lee so....

[LadyVader]

You insensitive bastard.

*30 seconds later*

No wait, you're a kindred spirit. I like talking to you and sharing opinions. Cuddles all around.




















See? That's just freaky. :)

[Darthphere]

Lol, I hope that if thsi leeDee relationship goes on in the long run of things they develop it better than have her naked in his bunk for 30 seconds.

[LadyVader]

The worst that can happen to them at this point is Lee yelling out "Starbuck!" while they're doing it. :)

[Darthphere]

The worst that can happen to them at this point is Lee yelling out "Starbuck!" while they're doing it. :)


Lol, funny I just saw that episode yesterday. I also wonder about Starbuck. Has she really moved beoynd that too a brother/sister relationship or does she still harbor feelings for him. Were led to believe otherwise with the whole Anders thing but I dont know sometimes....

[LadyVader]

They do have a very special bond, that goes beyond the physical. It's hard to make something like that work in a show because you have pyscho-fangirls like me with nothing better to do then wish they would just get down and do the wild thing all night long. That's a pretty shallow view of a relationship, so for now I would really like them to be just very close friends, colegues and parteners, working together and supporting eachother... and in the very last episode when they reach a high level of emotional stability, where they're truly comfortable with eachtother and opened to eachother... get down and do the wild thing all night long.

If the viper's a rockin', don't come a knockin'.

[Darthphere]

Out of curiosity did you ever watch the old BSg series?

[LadyVader]

Yes I did. I think I was 11 or 12, drooling over Dirk Benedict, though I must admit I'm more of a "Face" girl myself. :)

[Darthphere]

Ive always been curious to see it but think I will be turned off by all the camp. I know they gave a little marathon today on Sci-Fi unfortunately I had to go to school.

Anway, quick question you think these characters are better than the old series or has any character been greatly improved over its predecessor?

[LadyVader]

In my opinion, what worked back then really doesn't work now. Point in fact, besides stargate there are no other feelgood sci-fi shows and even Stargate is starting to get a lot darker then it used to be in say, the first 5 seasons.
This is a completely different take on an existing story, and characters should not be compared but now since you asked the question...
I think the greatest evolution is that of the cylon concept in general. We can always have good human characters because its relatively easy to write a human. You are a human so you have the ball in your court anyway. But to write from a new species point of view, and to make it look like an interesting and engaging POV, that is an accomplishment indeed. The Cylons are a real threat, but at the same time they intrigue us. That to me is the greatest advancement over the old series...

[Darthphere]

Yeah the Cylons are great. Sometimes more interesting than the human characters. Thast why im looking forward to this week's episode.

[Evelisse]

Im pretty sure Starbuck has moved beyond the brother/sister, friend, feelings toward Lee. And if the rumor of the guy back on Caprica being a cylon is true and she finds out, she'll end up showing her feelings for Lee alot more. And the love for Starbuck has been apparent from Lee for a while now, only tricky part is the Dualla part just hope they dont kill her, her character has grown on me as the show has moved along.

[Pulp Savage]

Good news for people who want to see some episodes of the 1978 Battlestar Galactica, Scifi is going to have a mini-marathon of the original on Feb. 28 and another on March 13. So get your VCR's ready.

[LadyVader]

Man, I wish I had Sci Fi :(

[Darthphere]

Does anybody get homosexual vibes from Gaeta?

[LadyVader]

There was that episode where he surprised Duala in the bathroom and I've always wondered what exactly was he doing in the ladies room?
:)
But no, I actually don't. I think there was a scene once where Baltar was kind of all over him questioning him about something (I think in a toilet again :) ) and Gaeta actually seemed awkard about the situation, where if he were gay I think he'd take it as a come on and just roll with it. :D

[Darthphere]

But how do explain all the man hugs he gives Baltar.....:D

[LadyVader]

There's something inherently cuddly about Baltar. You look at that face and you just wanna hug him. He's like Galactica's Koosalagoopagoop.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f5/Koos5.jpg

:)

[Superfreak]

There was that episode where he surprised Duala in the bathroom and I've always wondered what exactly was he doing in the ladies room?
:)
But no, I actually don't. I think there was a scene once where Baltar was kind of all over him questioning him about something (I think in a toilet again :) ) and Gaeta actually seemed awkard about the situation, where if he were gay I think he'd take it as a come on and just roll with it. :D

I believe that the washrooms onboard galactica were co ed

[dpm07]

There was that episode where he surprised Duala in the bathroom and I've always wondered what exactly was he doing in the ladies room?
:)
But no, I actually don't. I think there was a scene once where Baltar was kind of all over him questioning him about something (I think in a toilet again :) ) and Gaeta actually seemed awkard about the situation, where if he were gay I think he'd take it as a come on and just roll with it. :D

I think it's a unisex or co-ed bathroom. This really isn't all that uncommon. A lot of businesses are starting to go this way. Especially newer buildings because it allows for more office space. Besides, to most adults having co-ed bathrooms really isn't a big deal. It probably would come as a greater shock to someone living in some backwoods area who isn't in tune with the times or some high school kid who wasn't aware of the way a lot of restroom areas work in modern businesses.

[Darthphere]

I think it's a unisex or co-ed bathroom. This really isn't all that uncommon. A lot of businesses are starting to go this way. Especially newer buildings because it allows for more office space. Besides, to most adults having co-ed bathrooms really isn't a big deal. It probably would come as a greater shock to someone living in some backwoods area who isn't in tune with the times or some high school kid who wasn't aware of the way a lot of restroom areas work in modern businesses.


I take offense to that.:mad: :down

[Superfreak]

the thought of a unisex bathroom in a highschool... recipe for a porno

[LadyVader]

Happy birthday to mister Edward James Olmos.

One of the best (if not the best) actors on Battlestar Galactica!

[dpm07]

I saw another preview for this week's episode that's different than the one that's been running. It looks like the baby is about to be born.

[Darthphere]

Yep The bay is born premature so its struggling to survive, her name is Hera.

[Lurk]

^I love it! Can't wait......

[Lurk]

Interesting, spoilerlicious pics here: http://www.gateworld.net/galactica/s2/graphics/219_gallery.shtml

It's next Friday's eppy.

[Darthphere]

Next week is the first half of the season finale and in case you didnt know, Lay Down Your Burdens Pt. 2 is 90 minutes long..

[Superfreak]

ooooh, the next few weeks are gonna be awesome!!!!!

But the inevitable cliffhanger is going to rip my still beating heart from my chest.

Tonight's episode is the one I've been looking forward to since Pegasus. It looks really interesting... especially the 'you're a machine that thinks it's a human' scene. We get 2 Sharon's again.

As for the finale, sounds interesting. And this baby, I hope it doesn't turn out to be 'normal' (ie. I want it to pose an imminent threat of some sort or another).

[LetsHangBendis]

OH **** BALTAR IS A CYLON!!!

[Evelisse]

Although it didnt come right out and say it, I'll agree Baltar is a cylon no way that cylon Number 6 lady dies in that nuke blast and he didn't, they are 2 cylons mentally linked some how I think. Bottom line that was a great episode and they season finale shows look to be incredible, sad its come to and end already. Will be missed during boring summer, guess can watch reruns :/

[LetsHangBendis]

It's on Universal HD now, so I can watch them in their expected quality, which will be good enough.

But yeah, Baltar is definately a Cylon based on that. A sleeper with plausible deniability because of his importance in the fleet. It won't matter til the VERY end of the show, I'm sure. But it can't be any other way.

I see 6 and Sharon stealing a ship and going after Galactica, and somehow getting asylum on board.

The finale is going to be infinite amounts of awesome.

[Darthphere]

Baltar is not a cylon. Baltar was already established as a famous scientists and considered a genius by many. Cylons dont make copies of already existing people. The reason he didnt dies in the blast was because Number 6 told him to get down and shileded him from the impact of the blast.

[Superfreak]

that was fantastic. Excellent epsiode.

What Baltar is remains to be seen. But it could have something to do with the horny red spine. It remains to be seen, but perhaps when cylons and humans comune, and the red spined orgasm occurs, both parties become connected. Perhaps Helo and Sharon2 are connected in some way.

The cylon politique is very interesting. And it's also really interesting how the mirror image of what has been happening in the fleet, is also happening on Cylon occupied Caprica.

Lucy Lawless gets better with age.

This epi really sets up the finale. I'm really interested to see where a cylon peace movement will end up. It was also good to see Anders, and see that he may arrive at the fleet as a peace jeasture of some sort. Plus, having Anders show up, will send Starbuck into another self destructive drinking binge, which is always exciting.


Lastly, I'd like to point out the similarities between BSG and Robotech: Macross Saga. Both stories are similarly based on a space battleship, carrying the last surviving members of the human race. BSG borrows much from Macross and I find this great.

Next two weeks should be great.

[Darthphere]

Or does Macross borrow a lot from BSG?

[Spidey Rules 2]

I'm wondering about something. The moment Sharon I was killed on Galactica, was Blatar already the Vice President? I thought he became VP sometime after Sharon was killed. The reason this is bugging me is that in last night's episode, Sharon knew Baltar was the VP.

As for Baltar being a cylon, I thought so at first until I relaized that Six was the only one that could see him. I loved those scenes. In any case, I really doubt he's a cylon, he (as someone said earlier) was already quite famous, plus the fact that IF he was a cylon, they wouldn't need Six to do what she did.

[Darthphere]

I'm wondering about something. The moment Sharon I was killed on Galactica, was Blatar already the Vice President. I thought he became VP sometime after Sharon was killed. The reason this is bugging me is that in last night's episode, Sharon knew Baltar was the VP.

As for Baltar being a cylon, I thought so at first until I relaized that Six was the only one that could see him. I loved those scenes. In any case, I really doubt he's a cylone, he (as someone said earlier) was already quite famous, plus the fact that IF he was a cylon, they wouldn't need Six to do what she did.


Yeah he was. He becomes VP during the middle of Season 1. Cally kills Sharon at the beginning of Season 2 about 3 episodes in.

[LetsHangBendis]

Baltar is not a cylon. Baltar was already established as a famous scientists and considered a genius by many. Cylons dont make copies of already existing people. The reason he didnt dies in the blast was because Number 6 told him to get down and shileded him from the impact of the blast.Baltar was famous, but we have NO idea for how long. Boomer was on Galactica for 2 years, 2 years was canonically when the infiltrators were placed in their positions. And no one can disprove he's existed longer.

I'm aware they don't, but we have NO reason to believe he's existed that long. He could have shown up with a vast knowledge of science and a bull**** backstory and infiltrated just fine.

And Number 6, like all skin jobs is no more durable than a human being. And if you got caught in a nuclear explosion, and I was standing behind you, I'd still be pretty ****ed. Look at what happens to his house. The glass alone would shred him.

Baltar is a Cylon because they needed someone who THOUGHT he was human to go into the fleet for the long haul. He has no idea what he is, and unlike boomer they won't occasionally activate him. He's serving them without knowing it by thinking he's human with 6 in his mind.

We didn't see him on Caprica because he hasn't been revealed yet. There are at least 5 Cylons that weren't on Caprica simply because we couldn't be spoiled. It's entirely likely Baltar is no. 2 or even no. 1.

I mean, honestly, a Cylon halucinating Baltar? It's not something to do with the red spine, or the rest of the Cylons would have some frame of reference for it, it's a connection that's preexisting.

[Darthphere]

Its not like it was a nuclear blast right on top of the house. What you got was a blast from a distance. It is possible that she couldve blocked the blast from him. Its not like he came out of it unscathed either. Its like saying you cant use somebody as a human shiled against bullets. And as like someone said. The Cylons wouldnt have needed 6 to seduce Baltar to get to their defenses, if they ouldve just used Baltar from the get go. And he has been famous for a while because Baltar was already known and its said that him and 6 were dating for two years. So he existed before that. Why would D'Anna ask 6 if she thought his death was bad? It seems to me all the evidence points to being human.

[Evelisse]

If Baltar is a cylon I'd like to think that the reason there is that mental link going on is cause Baltar & 6 are copies of the Cylons' Adam & Eve so to speak, that their models were the first.

And really though, I don't think you can compare 6 being a human shield to bullets and being a human shield to a nuke, whatever far away it was, if it had the power to what looked like destroy the house with ease, should have no problem going through her.

But who knows where they are going with it, am enjoying the ride.

[Darthphere]

If Baltar is a cylon I'd like to think that the reason there is that mental link going on is cause Baltar & 6 are copies of the Cylons' Adam & Eve so to speak, that their models were the first.

And really though, I don't think you can compare 6 being a human shield to bullets and being a human shield to a nuke, whatever far away it was, if it had the power to what looked like destroy the house with ease, should have no problem going through her.

But who knows where they are going with it, am enjoying the ride.


What im saying, the house was destroyed but her body took the full impact of the blast. Blatar was injured when Helo gave up his spot on the Raptor, scratches and wounds and the like. Just like 6 on Caprica who survived the explosion. its possible people. Im not saying Baltar couldnt be a cylon, but to me at leats all the evidence speaks otherwise.

[Superfreak]

Or does Macross borrow a lot from BSG?

either way, it's nice to see transfer of stories between live action and animation and vice versa.

I just rewatched. Awesome epi. The 'reverse' baltar/6 relationship really interested me, and it's great that both coporeal versions, have visions of their respective partners in all their glory (how they'd be if things were 'normal') while their coporeal versions always look like they're about to break down, or die from injury (whatever the case may be).


So what do you think's gonna happen with the baby? Dissappear for a while, and resurface in later episodes? Or will the baby play a role in the finale?

Do you think Anders will be reunited with Starbuck in the finale? If ever?

[Darthphere]

either way, it's nice to see transfer of stories between live action and animation and vice versa.

I just rewatched. Awesome epi. The 'reverse' baltar/6 relationship really interested me, and it's great that both coporeal versions, have visions of their respective partners in all their glory (how they'd be if things were 'normal') while their coporeal versions always look like they're about to break down, or die from injury (whatever the case may be).


So what do you think's gonna happen with the baby? Dissappear for a while, and resurface in later episodes? Or will the baby play a role in the finale?

Do you think Anders will be reunited with Starbuck in the finale? If ever?


Theres scenes in the preview with Anders and Starbuck so yeah. The baby, who knows. I really dont dig the storyline that much, it wouldve been cool to see the baby with some glowing red eyes or soemthing but yeah someone will find out its alive and all hell will break loose.

[Superfreak]

Baltar was famous, but we have NO idea for how long. Boomer was on Galactica for 2 years, 2 years was canonically when the infiltrators were placed in their positions. And no one can disprove he's existed longer.

I'm aware they don't, but we have NO reason to believe he's existed that long. He could have shown up with a vast knowledge of science and a bull**** backstory and infiltrated just fine.

And Number 6, like all skin jobs is no more durable than a human being. And if you got caught in a nuclear explosion, and I was standing behind you, I'd still be pretty ****ed. Look at what happens to his house. The glass alone would shred him.

Baltar is a Cylon because they needed someone who THOUGHT he was human to go into the fleet for the long haul. He has no idea what he is, and unlike boomer they won't occasionally activate him. He's serving them without knowing it by thinking he's human with 6 in his mind.

We didn't see him on Caprica because he hasn't been revealed yet. There are at least 5 Cylons that weren't on Caprica simply because we couldn't be spoiled. It's entirely likely Baltar is no. 2 or even no. 1.

I mean, honestly, a Cylon halucinating Baltar? It's not something to do with the red spine, or the rest of the Cylons would have some frame of reference for it, it's a connection that's preexisting.

If baltar was a cylon, then this line would not have appeared in last nights epi:

"Seduce a man so emotionally and physically so that he grants you access to all the most closely guarded secrets of his people"

If Baltar was a Cylon, then the Cylons would not have needed 6 to infiltrate the fleet computer systems through Baltar. The Cylons could have just had Baltar expose the colonies to the Cylon attack.

Baltar isn't a Cylon

here's another question: Peace talks for the finale: will the Cylon meaties still hidden in the fleet be exposed? Will the Lucy Lawless model Cylon be exposed (I beleive the reporter cylon is still hidden in the fleet)? Will we get to see other Cylons?

[Darthphere]

Hopefully.

[Marc]

Cool ep. :) Good to see Baltar on the other side.

Been thinking about things, it seems the Cylons know about the path to Earth already as Sharon seemed to indicate. So maybe they are already on Earth? And they are trying to cross breed with humans. I mean they've been away long enough for such a thing to happen. And how else did they find 'God'.

Also, they have the ability to replicate a human. Why would they even need Baltar? They could of just killed and replaced him. There was no need for their vast conspiracy so to me indicates their are other motives at work. Strikes me as rather inane that a woman who snaps the neck of a baby and causes billions of deaths will suddenly start to feel guilty as well. I think the idea was to create events that were so dire that it would force two 'species' together. That the cylons planned and wanted love incorporated into them. The Balter/6 thing I can't believe is just some magical vision, I think they swapped part of their conciousness around since they have the ability to download/upload it to other bodies. And there is only a small difference in their anatomy which should apply to humans as well. So they have a piece of each others mind, giving 6 the ability to feel real feelings and Baltar better understanding of their mindset. To create a link between the two species and become father/mother to a new 'race' (baby half-breed). Out of maybe a hierarchical jealousy of love.

I certainly don't think Baltar is a Cylon, he is more human than anyone in the fleet. Warts an all. Plus why bother with the relationship and betrayal in the first place as above, there is no need for a middle man. I think Baltar represents everything it is to be human, every good quality and every bad one. And he is where the Cylons want to go perhaps as every child (cylons) wants to better themselves to their parents (humans).

Btw, in the ep last night while 6 was talking to Lucy early on. There was a red head in a group behind them, sorta looked like it could of been Roslin. Maybe seeing things.


Evelisse - It wasn't a direct nuke blast however as I believe you see mountains in the background. It was the shockwave after the fact, that took quite a while to catch up. Nuke goes off blinds Baltar a little, then like a minute or so later the shockwave finally reaches his home. If the nuke was close the whole place would have been torn apart in a second. She took the impact of the breaking glass which would be enough to kill someone but the shockwave itself was rather dissapated at that point.

[Superfreak]

Evelisse - It wasn't a direct nuke blast however as I believe you see mountains in the background. It was the shockwave after the fact, that took quite a while to catch up. Nuke goes off blinds Baltar a little, then like a minute or so later the shockwave finally reaches his home. If the nuke was close the whole place would have been torn apart in a second. She took the impact of the breaking glass which would be enough to kill someone but the shockwave itself was rather dissapated at that point.

I went and rewatched, very true, Good eyes marc

[Darthphere]

My theory is and always has been that the Cylon homeworld is Earth. They were gone for 40 years and found Earth and have inhabited it.

[LetsHangBendis]

If baltar was a cylon, then this line would not have appeared in last nights epi:

"Seduce a man so emotionally and physically so that he grants you access to all the most closely guarded secrets of his people"

If Baltar was a Cylon, then the Cylons would not have needed 6 to infiltrate the fleet computer systems through Baltar. The Cylons could have just had Baltar expose the colonies to the Cylon attack.

Baltar isn't a Cylon

here's another question: Peace talks for the finale: will the Cylon meaties still hidden in the fleet be exposed? Will the Lucy Lawless model Cylon be exposed (I beleive the reporter cylon is still hidden in the fleet)? Will we get to see other Cylons?
But that doesn't necessarily mean ANYTHING. I'm not saying his a Cylon with programming waiting to come out, I'm saying he's an artificial placed in there to be a human. To be their agent in the fleet WITHOUT being an agent.

Six DID have to seduce him and DID have to convince him, just as much as if he were normal, but he's not. He's just unaware of his nature and a douchebag even as a human. It would be physically impossible for it to work any other way.

They DIDN'T just have Baltar do it because we see what happens to Cylon saboteurs, either they don't remember where they were when it happened, and figure something's up, or they know and suddenly become self aware. A COMPLETE sleeper who had an alibi would be necessary for something so important. It's important to have an agent that can't expose itself like Sharon.

As for Cylons remaining in the fleet, Lucy Lawless is still hidden, and she's gonna be in most of the next season's episodes so clearly none of the sleepers will surrender.

[Superfreak]

I don't think you made 1 clear point in you post above (ie. write slower and make sure you clearly explain what you are trying to get across) dude, he's not a cylon. They said it ten times during the last weeks episode. All the cylons know that Baltar is a human, let it go. He has to be human, because he represents everything that is wrong with humanity. He's not a cylon.

As for the question: is Baltar working for the cylons as a human agent... who knows?



can someone tell me what the preview for last nights episode meant. The voice over said something like this: the season finale will be like a world broadcast premier. Can someone elaborate on that.

[Darthphere]

Probably referring to the season finale being 90 minutes long.


Great episode though. Great to see Starbuck find her man finally, even though I could care less about Anders. Looks like Baltar wins the election and forces Adama to settle on the new planet. Spoilers have said that the show will jump a year into the future to see how the colony has progressed and the Cylons will offer them a deal.

[Pink Ranger]

My theory is and always has been that the Cylon homeworld is Earth. They were gone for 40 years and found Earth and have inhabited it.

Dude, that means WE'RE the Cylons. That's so deep it's scaring me.

[Marc]

Superfreak - Cheers. :)

Letshangbendis - But it makes six redundant so why would the cylons assign her to him. As well as all the other cylons being ignorant of him as mentioned. Lucy being one of the cylons refering to him as a human.

Btw does your username mean you want to hang out with Bendis or that you wan't him to choke? :D

Probably referring to the season finale being 90 minutes long.

Great episode though. Great to see Starbuck find her man finally, even though I could care less about Anders. Looks like Baltar wins the election and forces Adama to settle on the new planet. Spoilers have said that the show will jump a year into the future to see how the colony has progressed and the Cylons will offer them a deal.

T'was a good ep. Anders as a character is probably the weakest as there's nothing to him except the fact Starbuck managed to fall in love with him after one night. With the election it is strange that Roslin should be dead if not for Baltar saving her life, yet she treats him like garbage. Ok she doesn't like him, but you'd expect some form of basic respect after that.

One thing that bothered me was Galen and his dreams of being a Cylon, he questions whether he is or not saying he can't tell. Which is odd seeing as he was put in jail as a traitor until Baltar cleared his name. :confused: He happily accepted the idea he wasn't a cylon then, what changed.

Look forward to the season ender.

[thine]

Grace Park is my ultimate favorite on BSG...she plays pivotal character Sharon "Boomer" Valerii. she's tall and slim...I see a couple of heads turn...:D

by the way guys, anybody bought a copy of TV Guide magazine that also featured Battlestar's Big Finale? it was pretty cool cuz i got a free download of new bsg episode when i bought a copy of tv guide mag...

[biggles2000uk]

what if baltar is a cylon agent and he has taken the place of the real baltar who died on Caprica after the attack. And infact, caprica six is in love with the real (dead) baltar not knowing that the baltar on Galactica is a cylon agent.

[Darthphere]

what if baltar is a cylon agent and he has taken the place of the real baltar who died on Caprica after the attack. And infact, caprica six is in love with the real (dead) baltar not knowing that the baltar on Galactica is a cylon agent.


Cylons dont make bodies of already existing people.

[Superfreak]

Cylons dont make bodies of already existing people.


yeah, wake up people, there are 12 models of cylon and there are many copies (that still leaves in question what the 12 models are, are they 12 human models, or 12 models in total, including raiders, heavy raiders, baseships and cylon mechanicals).

they can't copy people

[huskerwebhead]

Man, this show just drives me nuts. I missed the last two eps but I DVR'ed them. I just finished watching both. I love this show but I just want to scream at the TV sometimes.

The Baltar scenes with Six on Caprica were great. I admit I about **** myself when I saw him there the first time, when Six was resurrected. The Cylon Peace Movement will be very interesting.

I can't wait for next weeks episode. What the hell is Rosilin going to do...what will be her purpose on the show if she isn't the Pres? And it sounded like she was telling someone that Baltar was a cylon conspiritor (sp?). Going back to her flashbacks to seeing him with Six on Caprica. I wonder what that will bring.

Very interesting stuff. Best show on TV in my opinion.

[thine]

Battlestar's Big Finale, have you read the articles about this on tv guide mag already?

[huskerwebhead]

Nope, and don't post any spoilers without spoiler tags. I don't want to know ahead of time. :)

[Deathlok2001]

OMG! Blackie Lawless little girl is a cylon!!!!! :eek: