Costume Comparision Threads Merged

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http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/5899/supermen2lr.png

Routh or Reeve?



Edit: Nice pic added
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a301/DeFett/all_supermen.jpg

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Sorry Reeve, those granny panties are just wrong :p

[gate1975mlm]

I got to go with Routh!

[JLBats]

Routh, gotta say.

[<borkis>]

First of all, you're comparing a movie shot to an off-screen shot of routh taking a break. Not exactly a fair comparison.

Based on the pictures you've given us Reeve definietly looks better. Hoever, I don't think it was a fair comparison to begin with. Once we have more movie shots of Routh, it'll be more conclusive.

(also, is that from STM? I don't think Reeve was that ripped for the first movie. On a side note, for STM they had to reshoot some of the earlier scenes because Reeve had put on so much muscle mass by the end of filming. I wonder how big Routh will be in the next few years...)

[batman44]

Routh has the better suit, but Reeve has the better look imo.

[M.O.Steel]

Routh has the better suit, but Reeve has the better look imo.

I agree, but i also agree with borkis because that's not a far comparison, comparing a movie shot and a regular off camera shot. Also, i think putting the pics side by sides shows how they are a couple of problems with the new suit as well as the old one. Neither one is perfect at the end of the day.

[Clarkman]

Based on *this* pic, Reeve.
But it's a tough competition.

[hey yo its sean]

How Routh is winning this poll, i'll never know.

[CConn]

Based on that pic alone; Reeve, easily. Though, in other pictures the Reeve suit can look a lot worse, and the Routh suit a lot better, Reeve's was just simple the comic suit. Sure you have the granny panties, but the Routh-String sorta offsets that flaw. :o

[Zigno]

both

[Superman4ever]

I'm a Routh supporter, but Reeve ALL the way. Are you kidding? He looks AMAZING in that photo...

[Superman4ever]

I don't think they look like granny panties...I think they look manly...they make him look bigger!

[pavlovs dogfood]

Routh.

Reeve - I'm sorry, but those belly hugging sheets he wears wrapped around himself are really an eyesore.

:supes:

[Thot]

Holy cow! I thought the Routh suit looked bad before, but next to Reeve it looks even worse! Routh looks like Super-Lad, Superman's junior sidekick. Reeve's physique is clearly superior. I'll take the SuperMAN grannies over the ridiculous SuperManties any day!!

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I like both....

:up:

[batman44]

I agree, but i also agree with borkis because that's not a far comparison, comparing a movie shot and a regular off camera shot. Also, i think putting the pics side by sides shows how they are a couple of problems with the new suit as well as the old one. Neither one is perfect at the end of the day.

I agree with you, we need more official pics of Brandon as Superman to make a better judgement. Your also right that neither suit is perfect.

[FEAR THE KNIGHT]

Routh has the better suit, but Reeve has the better look imo.

I agree the Routh suit is better material, and the blue on it looks nice... The red, the chest \s/, the belt \s/, and trunks looks wack tho... But imo Reeve looks like Superman......

The other guy looks like Brandon Routh in a silly looking outfit...:) :up:

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Geez guys, chill out. I know it's a casual shot of Routh. I was saying just based off of that particular picture. Obviously we don't have enough media to fully judge.

[batman44]

^I know, I was just responding to another post.

[antmanx68]

Based on these pictures i have to say Reeve looks better. He looks stronger and more heroic... with some very slightly different panties i'd say the look would be pretty damn perfect..

[igotatromboner]

Routh has a better made suit that looks more modern, but Reeve actually has the 'man' part in SUPERMAN.

[FEAR THE KNIGHT]

Routh has a better made suit that looks more modern, but Reeve actually has the 'man' part in SUPERMAN.

:) :up:

EXACTLY!

[Bruce Wayne]

Routh,but only because of the suit.

[Thunder Emperor]

hahahah Reeve, I am sorry its not the suit that makes the man, its how he wears it. and Routh has neither.

[Thunder Emperor]

http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/5899/supermen2lr.png

Routh or Reeve?


may God superman is stand on the right next to Superman. that is how I compare the two. :o

[Doomed_hero]

Reeve Waaaaayyyyy more. Routh's suit he does not look imposing or to have any muscle at all. I still think the suit is horrible.

[SANSHORYU]

hahahah Reeve, I am sorry its not the suit that makes the man, its how he wears it. and Routh has neither.

This sums it up best. But had the underwear on sir Reeve been a bit smaller... nigh-perfect.

[Doomed_hero]

Take underwear outside over that S anyday to be honest.

[DeFett]

Reeve or Routh or Reeve or Cain?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a301/DeFett/all_supermen.jpg

[muscaremy]

im comin around on routh but to me reeve is the one and only superman

[muscaremy]

but that may change wen i see the movie cuz the more i see of sr the more i like

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Reeve or Routh or Reeve or Cain?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a301/DeFett/all_supermen.jpg

Thanks for the pic :up:

I shall edit that into the first post with the other one.

[DeFett]

Thanks for the pic :up:

I shall edit that into the first post with the other one.

No probs, glad I could be of help.

I voted for Routh. Reeves supersuit looks dated.

[Nightwing1977]

I wasn't compare right now, since we haven't seen better pics & scenes from the movie yet like with Reeve. But Reeve's outfit starting to look more outdated, so I may wait & vote Routh soon.

[bluedevil121]

definitely reeve.

[Thunder Emperor]

Reeve or Routh or Reeve or Cain?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a301/DeFett/all_supermen.jpg


ok with the edited version

1) C reeve

2) Reeve

3 tie) Cain and Routh ( i give cain a slight edge) :o

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Can someone make Routh closer to Reeve's height as they only have like a 1-2 inch difference in height?

[Mister Sinister]

I don't like that pic of Routh, it doesn't show the suit the way it should.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I don't like that pic of Routh, it doesn't show the suit the way it should.

Yeah it's a casual pic. Can't wait for more media.

[DeFett]

ok with the edited version

1) C reeve

2) Reeve

3 tie) Cain and Routh ( i give cain a slight edge) :o

2) G Reeve? I find that hard to believe, he looks like he is wearing nappies.

[skruloos]

Can someone make Routh closer to Reeve's height as they only have like a 1-2 inch difference in height?
http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/1605/supermencollage2xs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Mister Sinister]

Who's the guy on the far right?

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Kirk Alyn

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http://theages.superman.ws/images/kirk.jpg

[DeFett]

George Reeves looks very old in those pics.

I've just looked up how old he was:
He played Superman between 1951-1957 and was 37-43.

Funny how Ben Affleck is playing him in Truth, Justice, and the American Way and is only 33.

[Nightwing1977]

George Reeves looks very old in those pics.

I've just looked up how old he was:
He played Superman between 1951-1957 and was 37-43.

Funny how Ben Affleck is playing him in Truth, Justice, and the American Way and is only 33.

People just look younger with the same age nowdays compare to those in the last few decades. :)

[<borkis>]

I voted Reeve, but that's like comparing Catherine Zeta Jones from Zorro to Elizabath Hurley after she woke up from a night of drinking.

Let's see two pics when they're either both done up or both looking like trash.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I voted Reeve, but that's like comparing Catherine Zeta Jones from Zorro to Elizabath Hurley after she woke up from a night of drinking.

Let's see two pics when they're either both done up or both looking like trash.

True. Just wanted a temporary thread on this till we get more media.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I think that Reeve and Routh look so much a like, the only thing that puts Routh over Reeve is imo the new suit is much better.

http://www.chrisreevehomepage.com/images/family/gaeandchris4.jpg
http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Television/One%20Life%20to%20Live/OLTL_054.jpg

[Bad Superman]

Reeve. The man that made us all believe an man could fly.

PS- I made this same poll back when the first Routh in suit pic came out and the results are practically the same.

[Milkman95]

I like both versions of Superman - Reeve and Routh.

Alyn and G. Reeves shouldn't even be in this poll, and Cain's look is AWFUL.

The Routh suit is better made, higher in quality, and is more modern........Christopher Reeve's suit is clearly out-dated now with those granny panties and hooker boots. Go with Routh's version for today............

[Gamma Ray]

Routh. Reeve is not the be all end all of Supermen.


PS Dean Cain's "S" is TERRIBLE!

[Gamma Ray]

Reeve. The man that made us all believe an man could fly.



No... Some FX guys made us believe that.

[Bad Superman]

No... Some FX guys made us believe that.

You must be kidding. . . .

[Mr. Credible]

I have to say, I really like Routh's "manties" better than any of the other 3 models...

... actually, I like the overall suit better, too.

(Christopher still has the best face of the 4, though)

[Mr. Credible]

I like both versions of Superman - Reeve and Routh.

Alyn and G. Reeves shouldn't even be in this poll, and Cain's look is AWFUL.

The Routh suit is better made, higher in quality, and is more modern........Christopher Reeve's suit is clearly out-dated now with those granny panties and hooker boots. Go with Routh's version for today............

:up:

Why can't more people understand that sometimes change is not only okay, but neccesary?

[scifiwolf]

I don't know if Routh is better or worse than Reeve. At this point, all I can say is that he's different, but in a good way. I think, when compared to the others, his suit stacks up very nicely.

[Peter Kent]

REEEVEEEE IS SUPERMAN!!!
Routh is only an actor that will play the Superman role next year...

[Thot]

I would rank them thusly:
1. C. Reeve
2. B. Routh
3. D. Cain (BAD "S" tho')
4. G. Reeves
5. K. Alyn

With a better chest shield, I might have put Cain over Routh.

[Super Kal]

I like both versions of Superman - Reeve and Routh.

Alyn and G. Reeves shouldn't even be in this poll, and Cain's look is AWFUL.

The Routh suit is better made, higher in quality, and is more modern........Christopher Reeve's suit is clearly out-dated now with those granny panties and hooker boots. Go with Routh's version for today............
dammit man, Reeve's boots are not hooker boots. How many times do I have to say this?

[Milkman95]

dammit man, Reeve's boots are not hooker boots. How many times do I have to say this?

Did you happen to see my reply to that nice photo you put up of an actual hooker boot?

If you know the rules of the official height of hooker boots, please let me know, because to me, anything higher than your calves could be considered in "hooking" territory...............

[Super Kal]

Did you happen to see my reply to that nice photo you put up of an actual hooker boot?

If you know the rules of the official height of hooker boots, please let me know, because to me, anything higher than your calves could be considered in "hooking" territory...............
dude, I could argue the same thing, saying that the height of a boot does not label a boot a hooker boot.

and yeah, I read it. There were a lot of differences with the pic I posted and the Reeve boot, like how the other boot has a heel, ibeing incredibly shiny, and that it ends at the top of the thigh...

the Reeve boot certainly is not a "hooker boot"

[Milkman95]

dude, I could argue the same thing, saying that the height of a boot does not label a boot a hooker boot.

and yeah, I read it. There were a lot of differences with the pic I posted and the Reeve boot, like how the other boot has a heel, ibeing incredibly shiny, and that it ends at the top of the thigh...

the Reeve boot certainly is not a "hooker boot"

Exactly - it's opinion. Since the Reeve boots are higher and come to almost basically his knees, they could be considered hooker boot height to some...........

Just to be clear, I'm not the only one who has called them hooker boots, and I wasn't the first either...............

[Showtime]

PS Dean Cain's "S" is TERRIBLE!

I agree....the S is horrible.

[hey yo its sean]

http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/1605/supermencollage2xs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Now everyone can stop complaining about a casual shot vs. official media.

Reeve > Routh

[Milkman95]

Now everyone can stop complaining about a casual shot vs. official media.

Reeve > Routh

Your opinion only...........

Reeve is better than Routh, but Routh's suit > Reeve's suit.........

[mathhater]

What specifically is wrong with Cain's "S"?....It's pretty big, but aside from that, it's a perfect "S" symbol...the diamond shape, colors, "S" shape....I don't really see a problem here.

[mathhater]

...I actually have a much bigger problem with Cain's belt...

[Bad Superman]

Now everyone can stop complaining about a casual shot vs. official media.

Reeve > Routh

Long live the King. :D

[Action ACE]

Dean Cain. LOL!

Reeves suit > Routh's suit only because of the neckline.

[Showtime]

What specifically is wrong with Cain's "S"?....It's pretty big, but aside from that, it's a perfect "S" symbol...the diamond shape, colors, "S" shape....I don't really see a problem here.

It's not sharp looking. Kind of cartoonish. Looks like something you would find on a Halloween costume at Wal-Mart. Just an opinion.

[Zing79]

Reeve > Routh
And not just by a little bit -- total ownage is pretty much what's going on.

[antmanx68]

Except for the cape i wish they would have pretty much used the Reeve suit using the Routh suit materials (textured bodysuit, raised S). I imagine that would have looked great.

[hey yo its sean]

Your opinion only...........

Reeve is better than Routh, but Routh's suit > Reeve's suit.........

Oh you mean that's my opinion? I hadn't figured that, so thanks for letting me know.

[jaydawg]

Routh looks like a fatty.

[Super Kal]

honestly?...




none of them

[Milkman95]

Oh you mean that's my opinion? I hadn't figured that, so thanks for letting me know.

You're welcome smart ass......... :)

[Sauron]

Sorry Reeve, those granny panties are just wrong :p
Yup, granny panties says it all. Such a shame. Dean looks good too. Routh looks like a kid wearing a shower curtain too tight around his neck.

No matter how much you try to get over it, it doesn't work.

[CConn]

Your opinion only...........

Reeve is better than Routh, but Routh's suit > Reeve's suit.........Definitely.

But had the Reeve suit been made today... :o

[Milkman95]

Yup, granny panties says it all. Such a shame. Dean looks good too. Routh looks like a kid wearing a shower curtain too tight around his neck.

No matter how much you try to get over it, it doesn't work.

To you, that might be, but I still think we have to see how it turns out in the actual film.............

[Thot]

Too bad we aren't to the point of being able to CG Reeve into the role, maybe this whole thing could have been salvaged.

[TheStrider]

Reeve is the Superman of my day, I can see how come most younger people would like Routh more however, To some people George Reeve is the one and only Superman however. So you see how that works? People of a lsightly older generation will be biased towards C.Reeve, then and even older generation will be geared towards G.Reeves.

[Thot]

http://theages.superman.ws/images/kirk.jpg

"I could have sworn I saw a guy in really small shorts just run by here..."

[Thot]

Reeve is the Superman of my day, I can see how come most younger people would like Routh more however, To some people George Reeve is the one and only Superman however. So you see how that works? People of a lsightly older generation will be biased towards C.Reeve, then and even older generation will be geared towards G.Reeves.

Perhaps, but if the new suit would have been closer to the classic, I would've been ecstatic. I would still rank Routh, as is, as second to Reeve. I think Routh was a good choice.

[Peter Kent]

i can't understand "i like the suit" people yet...

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

i can't understand "i like the suit" people yet...


Thats ok...i don't understand what you just posted.

:D

(this is a joke just in case you miss it)

[Kryptomaniac]

Reeve vs. Routh
Superman vs. Superskinnyman

Superman Returns spoiler:
Superman is exposed to Red Kryptonite. His suit shrinks and he looks anorexic.

[Peter Kent]

Reeve vs. Routh
Superman vs. Superskinnyman

Superman Returns spoiler:
Superman is exposed to Red Kryptonite. His suit shrinks and he looks anorexic.

es correcto!!!

[PSU442]

routh's look good. Modern and clean. I'm even digging the belt these days. Reeve's is terribly outdated. And Cain just looks silly. Singer is selling the small S.... and I'm buying.

[Nightwing1977]

Routh looks like a fatty.

Fatty? Do you know what fatty is anyway? Routh don't have any fat on him at all. You should look at fat people to know what fatty really is. :o

[Peter Kent]

routh's look good. Modern and clean. I'm even digging the belt these days. Reeve's is terribly outdated. And Cain just looks silly. Singer is selling the small S.... and I'm buying.

clean???!!!!
outdated???
do you know SUPERMAN comic books??
you're a Singer's fan... right???
(nothing personal)

[Milkman95]

clean???!!!!
outdated???
do you know SUPERMAN comic books??
you're a Singer's fan... right???
(nothing personal)

Yeah, the Reeve suit is SEVERELY outdated. It comes complete with feminine colors, poor quality, granny panties, and hooker boots..........

The Routh suit is a modernized, great look that takes all the different looks of the Superman legend from the 1930's to now.............

[Oldguy]

http://theages.superman.ws/images/kirk.jpg

"I could have sworn I saw a guy in really small shorts just run by here..."

Lol, funny.

Who looks better in the pic? Define better.

[Metropolis_Man]

I love the Reeve version, but I think the Routh suit looks good for a more modern Superman. Dean Cain versions is nice. I like the colors and materials used for it. But it will be nice to see a more updated version for this movie.

[sf2]

http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/5899/supermen2lr.png

Routh or Reeve?




is it the right scale???

routh looks small. reeve all the way.
btw, it's an unfair poll.

[Wilde]

No, it is not the right scale. Routh is much bigger than that. This picture I just made has the proper scale:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/routhvsreevecopy.jpg

This is a much better comparison picture.

[Wilde]

Or this, a comparison of every Superman:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/allsupermencopy.jpg

[\S/JcDc\S/]

No, it is not the right scale. Routh is much bigger than that. This picture I just made has the proper scale:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/routhvsreevecopy.jpg

This is a much better comparison picture.

They are in different poses entirely still :(

[Wilde]

Yes, they are. However, the scale, pose and angle are much closer than the comparison picture you posted.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Yes, they are. However, the scale, pose and angle are much closer than the comparison picture you posted.

I know. I was hoping somebody would fix it though :o

[\S/JcDc\S/]

It makes Routh look like he is 5'8 :down

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Reeve Waaaaayyyyy more. Routh's suit he does not look imposing or to have any muscle at all. I still think the suit is horrible.



Ummm.. It's clear Routh has plenty of muscle :rolleyes:

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/EW_000.jpg

[DeFett]

Or this, a comparison of every Superman:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/allsupermencopy.jpg

Good work. Did you colour the older Supermen or did you find them like that?

Pity Christopher looks grumpy.

[Wilde]

Here is an alternate version, using a new picture of Reeve, and slightly different composition:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/allsupermen2copy.jpg

Enjoy!

[\S/JcDc\S/]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/allsupermen2copy.jpg

Christopher Reeve
Brandon Routh
Dean Cain
Kirk Alyn
George Reeves

[nosebleed.]

If those are the colors that they'll use (and it would only make sense, with the teaser poster having those colors) then Routh. I can live w/the rest of my nitpicks.

btw...you shoulda created your screen name as J c D c instead of with the \S/'s.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Nicely done, made a new thread since this is more of a balanced comparison now.

[TheBat812]

Routh is clearly the buffest, so stop complaining about that, you haters. The small S definetly makes him seem bigger and more imposing when compared to the others. Routh wins for sure.

[Wilde]

Routh. No question.

Don't get me wrong, I loved Christopher Reeve as Superman as much as any of you guys, but looking at him compared to Routh, Reeve looks like what he is: a 70's Superman, and Routh looks like what he is: a modern Superman, with a suit that has elements of the old and new.

Routh wins.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

If those are the colors that they'll use (and it would only make sense, with the teaser poster having those colors) then Routh. I can live w/the rest of my nitpicks.

btw...you shoulda created your screen name as J c D c instead of with the \S/'s.


I actually always wanted the S's since I first joined :D

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Routh. No question.

Don't get me wrong, I loved Christopher Reeve as Superman as much as any of you guys, but looking at him compared to Routh, Reeve looks like what he is: a 70's Superman, and Routh looks like what he is: a modern Superman, with a suit that has elements of the old and new.

Routh wins.

So very well put.

[Kryptonite X]

In what was Kirk Alyn Superman? Was it the musical?

Anyhow, this is a very good comparrison. I voted for Routh, but damn, CR looked so great in that suit in the beginning of his career. He later became fat, (Superman 3, and I know you guys call it buff, but this is the problem with too bog guys in tight suits, it shaddow all the muscle definition and easily can make a bodybuilder type guy seems fat.) but there he looked his best.

Just...those briefs of the older Supermen...

[Wilde]

Here is the Wallpaper version:

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/175/allsupermanwallpapercopy2ee.th.jpg (http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=allsupermanwallpapercopy2ee.jpg)

Enjoy!

[\S/JcDc\S/]

THAT IS AWESOME! Thanks Wilde you rock as always

[skruloos]

In what was Kirk Alyn Superman? Was it the musical?

He was the first Superman in the serials and the Atom Man vs. Superman feature. He was later replaced by George Reeves in the feature Superman and the Mole Men, who would later go on to star in the Superman TV series and features.

[Zing79]

Routh is clearly the buffest, so stop complaining about that, you haters. The small S definetly makes him seem bigger and more imposing when compared to the others. Routh wins for sure.
WHAT?!?!
People may not like Cain, but no one can touch the guy (buff wise). You know he was fresh out of FOOTBALL when he started playing Superman right?

[Oldguy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/allsupermen2copy.jpg

Christopher Reeve
Brandon Routh
Dean Cain
Kirk Alyn
George Reeves

Kirk Alyn is the scariest. He looks like he's going to kill them all in a drunken rage.

I like how you placed Routh in the front, higher than the rest.:up:

[Kevin Roegele]

That's a facinating photo, it shows each decade's version of the ultimate male figure.

50's: George Reeve, middle-aged daddy Superman
90's: Dean Cain, sensative new man yuppie Superman
00's: Brandon Routh, Calvin Klein Superman, mimmicks the 70's

[White_Howling]

the more i look at Routh suit the more i like it

[antmanx68]

Its not fair to Routh that he has to wear that suit. Even though the guy has some really good Superman qualities (height, look, voice) he'll never be given a fair shake by a lot of fans just because of the suit. I wanna like Routh, but that suit just really holds him back, doesnt compliment his body at all. In this pic? Thats not even a very flattering shot of Reeve IMO and he still surpasses the look of Routh in that suit.

[Kryptonite X]

He was the first Superman in the serials and the Atom Man vs. Superman feature. He was later replaced by George Reeves in the feature Superman and the Mole Men, who would later go on to star in the Superman TV series and features.

Thank you!

[Nightwing1977]

WHAT?!?!
People may not like Cain, but no one can touch the guy (buff wise). You know he was fresh out of FOOTBALL when he started playing Superman right?

Just because Dean use to play Football don't mean he's big. He's small. Beside, people who don't play sports anymore don't tend to workout much like they have to with football. And Dean don't look big there. He may be in shape, but not that big. I'm going with Routh.

[sf2]

WHAT?!?!
People may not like Cain, but no one can touch the guy (buff wise). You know he was fresh out of FOOTBALL when he started playing Superman right?
unfortunately in the bluetight, he looks as skinny as a chopstick. i can't help but to remember he folding his arms to push his limited chest muscle every time he appears as superman.

[Mentok]

With the red and the darker blue of the teaser poster, Routh looks much better.

[Bad Superman]

Deja Vu. . . . . :rolleyes:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196517&page=1&pp=25

[Steelsheen]

thanks for the manip Wilde, it really helps!

seeing that, then my choice firmly rests with Reeve. it just show the Man carries the suit, not the other way around.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

Looks like Routh is leading...
oh my... :rolleyes:

[Milkman95]

I like both Reeve and Routh - the other's are terrible.

Routh has a more modern look, which is fine by me, the Reeve suit is now out-dated in my opinion, and it's time for you complainers to move on, because your complaints are very "nitpicky"...........

[not_a_victim]

Ya know what? Seeing them all together makes me think that the \S/ looks better when it is smaller, like the Routh costume.
We must remember, the color of the costume will depend on the final color rendering of the film. Even the best promo shots of the costume might not accuarately reflect the color the costume will appear in the film.
My only real issue with the costume as it is not is that the briefs are just to skimpy. They dont need to come up past his bellybutton like the early costumes, but they just look too much like a Speedo.
Edit: For an example of what final color rendering will do, look at the pic of Supes talking to Perry White on the street. Look at the "bridge" in the background. It looks (and is) painted to look weathered. You KNOW it will not be obvious that it is paint in the final film.

[Ulic Queldroma]

Well, I'll say it again. The more I see the suit the more I like it. Tiny "nitpicky" problems aside, routh looks good in it, it's better quality than any of the other suits and from the footage of Supes flying from Comic-Con, it translates to film really well. I think we'll all be pleased when we see the final product.

[Bad Superman]

Well once again, Reeve owned.

Routh: 40.15%

Reeve: 59.85%

I guess this'll keep going on until the numbers are "balanced". :rolleyes:

[Super Kal]

so... are we judging this on the suit, or the essence of the character itself?...

[Timstuff]

http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/5899/supermen2lr.png

Routh looks even more like a joke when directly next to Reeve.

[MatchesMalone]

I love how Timstuff has completely jumped the fence and has gone troll-negative now, since the hating base has eroded completely.

[Mister Sinister]

http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/5899/supermen2lr.png

Routh looks even more like a joke when directly next to Reeve.
That's because the picture of Routh is a shot taken off screen.

[GL1]

In those pix, Dean Cain looks better than the lot...

[Doomed_hero]

That's because the picture of Routh is a shot taken off screen.


why does that matter, he is still wearing the suit.

[M.O.Steel]

why does that matter, he is still wearing the suit.

there's a posture that comes with superman. He doesn't need to walk around like that when he's off camera. HE can relax a bit. I mean, you expect him to look like superman all the time?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/allsupermen2copy.jpg

That's a more accurate comparison between the two because routh is in the superman "mode" Now you can say whether Reeve is better or routh

[Pickle-El]

I love how Timstuff has completely jumped the fence and has gone troll-negative now, since the hating base has eroded completely.

EXACTLY.

I think he's just lonely....there's not many people to converse with on the Smallville boards these days. You'd have to actually talk to.....(Looks around)

Girls! :eek:

[Doomed_hero]

there's a posture that comes with superman. He doesn't need to walk around like that when he's off camera. HE can relax a bit. I mean, you expect him to look like superman all the time?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/allsupermen2copy.jpg

That's a more accurate comparison between the two because routh is in the superman "mode" Now you can say whether Reeve is better or routh


Ok, snd I say it. Still think that suit looks like a halloween coustume.

[Pickle-El]

Don't they all?

[Steelsheen]

Reeve

the comparisson photos just proves the old adage: its the man that makes the suit, not the other way around.

[AgentPat]

I think he's just lonely....there's not many people to converse with on the Smallville boards these days. You'd have to actually talk to.....(Looks around)

Girls! :eek:http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/tongue.gif

There a problem with talking to women? Does their opinion not count or something? :p

And um... if you called some of the men who post over in that forum a "girl," they'd knock your teeth in. LOL

PS: Reeve.

[Bad Superman]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/tongue.gif

There a problem with talking to women? Does their opinion not count or something? :p

And um... if you called some of the men who post over in that forum a "girl," they'd knock your teeth in. LOL

PS: Reeve.

I agree. That type of attitude and generalization (AKA trolling, antagonizing) against Smallville fans is the plague that has caused deep divisions among fans and has sent many posters away from this forum.

Many male posters enjoy Smallvile, myself included.

[MatchesMalone]

I agree. That type of attitude and generalization (AKA trolling, antagonizing) against Smallville fans is the plague that has caused deep divisions among fans and has sent many posters away from this forum.

Many male posters enjoy Smallvile, myself included.

I have never seen more unsexy women than on Smallville. And it's not their looks.

First off, the girl playing Lana has three seasons of pastel pink blouses and jeans under her belt, and a disposition that would give cap'n crunch diabetes. Then, when she turns into a witch - let me repeat that, slowly - when she TURNS...INTO...A...WITCH... she tries to play off this sexy goth thing and it fails miserably. She has no idea how to be sexy or slutty.

Chloe - don't even get me started. She reminds me of that girl from Cold Case - GET A DAMN HAIRCUT.

Lois - Here's where everybody says the girl is hot hot hot. She is built well. But the lines they feed her, and her "I'm a bad girl who makes lame Buffy jokes" thing just kills any normal sex drive I had left. It's just all so schlocky and lame.

Sorry. Reeve until I see Routh act.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Stupid question. Reeve of course. The fact that some people have even voted for Routh shows that the people that are claiming that Routh looks good in the part are in denial.

[Doomed_hero]

Don't they all?

Just him more so, that suit on him just feels like it was bought at a store. I get no presence like I do from Reeves. I don't know if its the small S or what, but I just don't feel he has the feel of Superman.

[MatchesMalone]

Stupid question. Reeve of course. The fact that some people have even voted for Routh shows that the people that are claiming that Routh looks good in the part are in denial.

Wow dude, you're a bit more acerbic here than you are on the BoF forum. ;)

[skruloos]

Just him more so, that suit on him just feels like it was bought at a store. I get no presence like I do from Reeves. I don't know if its the small S or what, but I just don't feel he has the feel of Superman.
Or could it be because you've already seen Reeve as Superman? That might also have a lot to do with it. It's hard to look at it objectively without actually imagining Reeve's incredible performance.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

I have never seen more unsexy women than on Smallville. And it's not their looks.

First off, the girl playing Lana has three seasons of pastel pink blouses and jeans under her belt, and a disposition that would give cap'n crunch diabetes. Then, when she turns into a witch - let me repeat that, slowly - when she TURNS...INTO...A...WITCH... she tries to play off this sexy goth thing and it fails miserably. She has no idea how to be sexy or slutty.

Chloe - don't even get me started. She reminds me of that girl from Cold Case - GET A DAMN HAIRCUT.

Lois - Here's where everybody says the girl is hot hot hot. She is built well. But the lines they feed her, and her "I'm a bad girl who makes lame Buffy jokes" thing just kills any normal sex drive I had left. It's just all so schlocky and lame.

Sorry. Reeve until I see Routh act.
Say what you like about Chloe and Lana but Erica Durance that plays Lois is one of the sexiest women on TV. She also nailed the part of Lois and she's about the character most like her comic book counterpart.

[MatchesMalone]

Say what you like about Chloe and Lana but Erica Durance that plays Lois is one of the sexiest women on TV. She also nailed the part of Lois and she's about the character most like her comic book counterpart.

Diff'rent strokes to move the world.

And the last time I checked, Lois Lane didn't go around saying buffy-isms, and was a reporter all her life...

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Wow dude, you're a bit more acerbic here than you are on the BoF forum. ;)Hey Matches. Always nice to see a BOF'er around the net. I try to be honest everywhere I go. With this movie I just have more to complain about.

[MatchesMalone]

Hey Matches. Always nice to see a BOF'er around the net. I try to be honest everywhere I go. With this movie I just have more to complain about.

No sweat. I don't mind honesty, preferably brutally so. Haven't been to BoF much lately, what's cooking over there?

[Doomed_hero]

Or could it be because you've already seen Reeve as Superman? That might also have a lot to do with it. It's hard to look at it objectively without actually imagining Reeve's incredible performance.


while it may be a little part, I still look at the Superman from the comics and then Routh and don't get the feeling of Superman.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

No sweat. I don't mind honesty, preferably brutally so. Haven't been to BoF much lately, what's cooking over there?Endless Joker discussions and reports(now come with manips of the guy from the Matrix that nobody's sure can even act) on who may be up for the role. I still love the place though.

[Nightwing1977]

Well once again, Reeve owned.

Routh: 40.15%

Reeve: 59.85%

I guess this'll keep going on until the numbers are "balanced". :rolleyes:

I ain't surprise about this. It just Reeve own the part like 4 times, while we haven't seen Routh at all. But I don't want to say one is better than the other. I prefer the 2 of 'em are different. Like Routh will do his own take on Supes than just copying Reeve completely.

[MatchesMalone]

Endless Joker discussions and reports(now come with manips of the guy from the Matrix that nobody's sure can even act) on who may be up for the role. I still love the place though.

such is the post-excellent movie lull. When the DVD comes out, a resurgence of discussion of freeze frames, "what happened to stage 2", etc, will occur.

[BH/HHH]

Routh

[Bad Superman]

Endless Joker discussions and reports(now come with manips of the guy from the Matrix that nobody's sure can even act) on who may be up for the role. I still love the place though.

Yeah, I've heard many Joker casting rumors too.

[Kevin Roegele]

Hey, look - all the suits are different.

REVELATION PEOPLE

[Kevin Roegele]

Looking at that shot, it's hit me for the very first time in my entire life how silly wearing the underpants outside the trousers is.

[David Ford, RPD]

Routh has the best suit, but I wouldn't compare him with cain or Reeves or Reeve. I love Routh's voice, but I need to see the trailer before making judgment.


He sure as hell looks the part thought, especially in that news report when Routh is "picking up" that car.

[Groho]

Brandon Routh....

[Showtime]

Looking at that shot, it's hit me for the very first time in my entire life how silly wearing the underpants outside the trousers is.

It does seem silly but it looks awful if you remove that part of the suit.

[green]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/allsupermen2copy.jpg

Christopher Reeve
Brandon Routh
Dean Cain
Kirk Alyn
George Reeves


Eh, they're all Superman to me. :up:

[Cosmic]

I think they all look good for the times in which they were made.

[Metropolis_Man]

I think they all look good for the times in which they were made.

Well played. I was just watching the Kirk Alyan serial and I think his Clark Kent was really good. He looked pretty buff too for the standards back then. I think he had a really good look for the Superman of his time.

[newbrando]

You know what part of it is? I think Routh is sticking out his pelvis more than his chest. Is anybody else noticing that? I'm not trying to be funny. Serious question.

[Showtime]

You know what part of it is? I think Routh is sticking out his pelvis more than his chest. Is anybody else noticing that? I'm not trying to be funny. Serious question.

No, I definately thought that before but was afraid to mention it for obvious reasons.

[newbrando]

No, I definately thought that before but was afraid to mention it for obvious reasons.
Thanks. At least I know I'm not nuts now.

[Asr]

Dean Cain looks terrible as Superman IMO, I can't believe I used to watch Lois & Clark. :o

Routh doesn't look too bad but the changes to the suit still bother me. So Chris Reeve all the way!

[BatFitz]

I agree that with Singer. With today's film technology (digital), I don't think tights would look good on screen. The suit they have is just fine, and the latexy leathery cape will flow great in the air, and when walking. And the suit looks more alien like it should look.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Well this thread merge just ruined the new poll entirely. Good going :rolleyes:

[Thot]

I'll say it again. Reeve just looks more like the classic, iconic Superman from the past several decades in the comics. His suit compliments his physique and his build is better that Routh's. His muscularity is more balanced. Routh's foam shoulders still look funny, they throw his build off. They should have left 'em alone. I still say Reeve's suit is better. I like Routh. I think he is a fine choice to play Supes, but , he's been bilked by the costume department. I wonder if he's pissed.:mad:

[sf2]

I'll say it again. Reeve just looks more like the classic, iconic Superman from the past several decades in the comics. His suit compliments his physique and his build is better that Routh's. His muscularity is more balanced. Routh's foam shoulders still look funny, they throw his build off. They should have left 'em alone. I still say Reeve's suit is better. I like Routh. I think he is a fine choice to play Supes, but , he's been bilked by the costume department. I wonder if he's pissed.:mad:
i agree the reeve part.

[SCLJ]

Reeve is taking the lead.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Reeve is taking the lead.

No. Reeve is leading based off of the FOS poll. Because of the thread merger that poll was kept and the new one that offered all the Superman actors poll has been lost. Routh was actually leading by 20 votes in that one too :down

[hey yo its sean]

If Routh was supposedly ahead in both polls, merged together, he'd still be ahead. Obviously, this is not so.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

If Routh was supposedly ahead in both polls, merged together, he'd still be ahead. Obviously, this is not so.

Where did I say he was ahead in both polls? *think Mcfly!*

I said he was doing poorly in the FOS comparison pic poll. That's the current poll that is up. He made up ground being up by 20 or so in the other poll that was the new pic with the different Superman actors.

[hey yo its sean]

Hmmm, i must've misread your post, or misinterpreted it. Either way, you can take your snarky B2F comment and stick it in your ass.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Edit that comment out as it crosses the line. Got it?

[hey yo its sean]

No, and no.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Let me get this straight. You are going to make a comment like that based on me making a movie reference joke from you not understanding the post I read??? Wow. Anyways I find it offensive so remove it.

[Bad Superman]

Well this thread merge just ruined the new poll entirely. Good going :rolleyes:

The result is the same. Reeve owns. ;)

[SCLJ]

Look at Routh's bar, and look at Reeve's bar, that tells you something. And you got that right Bad Superman.

[SCLJ]

JcDc, why don't you just ignore it?

[Nightwing1977]

JcDC, just forgot about the polls. It just we never seen Routh in the role yet. Plus, Reeve have play Supes 4 times & is so good in the role which is why many vote him more. Maybe if Routh do 4 Supes movies or maybe more (if that possible), then we can see who fans prefer more. Right now, I'm sticking with Reeve till I see how great Routh do with the part. Maybe seeing him more in the sequels could help too. :supes:

[batman44]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/wildezc/allsupermen2copy.jpg


Material: Routh
Look: Reeve, Alyn, Routh
Blue color: Routh/ Cain
Red color: Reeve, Cain
Trunks: Routh/ Cain
Belt: Routh
Boots: Routh / Reeves
Cape: Cain, Reeve, Routh-though with an \s/ it would of made it "that much" better imo
Collar ;) : they all win, though I think the more open collar is better
\S/ size: Reeve/ Routh-could've been slightly larger
\S/ design: to be honest, all of them look a bit off in some way to me

[Thot]

Material: Routh
Look: Reeve, Alyn, Routh
Blue color: Routh/ Cain
Red color: Reeve, Cain
Trunks: Routh/ Cain
Belt: Routh
Boots: Routh / Reeves
Cape: Cain, Reeve, Routh-though with an \s/ it would of made it "that much" better imo
Collar ;) : they all win, though I think the more open collar is better
\S/ size: Reeve/ Routh-could've been slightly larger
\S/ design: to be honest, all of them look a bit off in some way to me

Trunks: Routh/Cain???? Cain's were o.k., but Routh's "Victoria Secrets"???
Nuh-uh.

[Outsiderzedge]

I want to be excited for this film.

[SCLJ]

Trunks: Routh/Cain???? Cain's were o.k., but Routh's "Victoria Secrets"???
Nuh-uh.

Thats what I was thinking those panties look like, Victoria Secret panties, and the hooker boots to go with them.

[Nightwing1977]

Thats what I was thinking those panties look like, Victoria Secret panties, and the hooker boots to go with them.

Actually, they're more like speedo & Reeve wore hooker boots. Not Routh. :p

[Sawyer]

It would be cool to have the Animated Superman in that montage.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Routh's still looks best to me :confused:

Though it should, it was made many years after the others.

[CLARKY]

I don't find it honest to compare the suit of C.Reeve on this pic with the other ones because it is a manipulated pic. The trunks isn't that good in the movies. I found two pics that show it almost normally because these are manipulated pics too.
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/chris-reeve-movies4/Superman_III_0-tb.html
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/chris-reeve-movies4/quick-change-tb.html
Personally I think B.Routh's trunks are the best. Victoria secrets or not.
I liked a lot D. Cain's suit and I still like it a lot. The blue is a little too "royal" for me but I think it is the best. Less cheesy than C.Reeve's yet very comic book-ish.
I dislike G.Reeves and Kirk Alyn's suits. And I like the B.Routh's suit. My only "specification" is that I dislike the idea of a 3D symbol, I like the 2D symbol like Cain's, Reeve's, etc ...
The colors are fine for me in every incarnations of the suit. The comic book Superman colors can be variable and with a filter, without a filter, with this kind of light, without this kind of light, etc, etc ... the suit doesn't look the same in the movies, so ....

[daywalker2007]

routh looks pathetic in that suit

with such a stupid high neckline and pathetic collar attachment,

possibly the worst collar attachment EVER on any superman costume,

it beggars belief how people can like it.

Reeve's costume has the proper neckline, his cape drapes over his shoulders like a king,

Rouths cape is just hanging off the top of his neck like a towel tucked in.

Absolutely awful, and it looks even worse on screen.

To top it off, rouths physique is simply not good enough. He barely has a chest,

All he did was a few months work on his arms and shoulders,and nothing more.

Reeve was built like a man, not like a swimmer like Routh.

He had a big chest, big arms, and a commanding presence. Routh in comparison had nothing, just big arms and shoulders and thats it.

And those weren't even true either, he had padding all over ! LOL

how sad can you get !

In actual fact, singer and mingenbach designed a costume tailored for a 50/50 audience.

50% for women to drool over his swimmers physique, and 50% for a gay audience as Singer intended.

Notice the women panties Routh was forced to wear, and the tight collar, and small s shield. It looked like a $10 costume from Wall mart more ideal for a bondage session rather than a 270 million budget film.

Not only that, people who say Routh's costume looks "more modern", when they look back in 10 years they will see that rouths costume will look even worse than it is now, it will look tasteless and even more fetish than it does now.

Reeve's costume, even now looks amazing, it looks perfect ! it looks exactly like the comics and it will never become dated, because the comic book superman has had the same costume for so many years!

Singers movie flopped, because the story sucked, the acting sucked, and the costume sucked.

I love it when people try to defend this movie, because it just smacks of stupidity and makes them look even more stupid than they are.

You saw how stupid Singer was, he couldn't justify anything when his movie flopped.

The movie bombed big time, and even a $65 million dollar budgeted cheapo film like 300 is going to bomb past 200 million at the box office.

Puts into perspective the failure that was superman returns,

Even howard the duck was better, at least it had a great soundtrack to it,
LOL

[Qwerty©]

^
It's like its 2005 all over again...

[Super Kal]

I'm personally glad that they didn't make a exact duplicate of the Donner suit, because that suit is just too outdated and bright to be visually appealing, but I'm also extremely disappointed at how bad the color of Superman have been disregarded in Superman Returns...

[SCLJ]

They could have revised the Reeve suit.

[Super Kal]

still doesn't change the fact that the colors are just too bright for this film...

[Super Kal]

double post

[SCLJ]

The suit that is in todays comics is the revised Reeve suit.

[Super Kal]

The suit that is in todays comics is the revised Reeve suit.
not quite...
http://www.silverbulletcomics.com/~editor/tommy/InfiniteCrisis002.jpg


besides, a suit that bright does not work well in movies anymore... even the Spiderman suit isn't that bright... It may work for the comic book, but it doesn't work on screen today.

[SUPERSEBAS]

I allways say than the design of the classic superman costume ( that is the same of the Reeve`s suit) is much better than the Superman returns costume.

So ... for those who think that the S.R suit is better, O would ask you, if I get the Reeve`s suit , and I made the same costume BUT with the same materials of the S.R costume, I mean, made the blue tights made with Millisking without the diamonds texture ( idea take it from the spiderman texture suit), the cape with the same material and the same big or long of the SR cape, and everything with the same material, but with the colors and design of the Reeve`s suit , what costume would you prefer?

[daywalker2007]

I allways say than the design of the classic superman costume ( that is the same of the Reeve`s suit) is much better than the Superman returns costume.

So ... for those who think that the S.R suit is better, O would ask you, if I get the Reeve`s suit , and I made the same costume BUT with the same materials of the S.R costume, I mean, made the blue tights made with Millisking without the diamonds texture ( idea take it from the spiderman texture suit), the cape with the same material and the same big or long of the SR cape, and everything with the same material, but with the colors and design of the Reeve`s suit , what costume would you prefer?

the public wants the reeve costume/comic book costume. Not the disgrace that was given to us last year by singer and co.

Totally agree, all they had to do was get an actual Reeve suit, update the materials, and thats it, you got your new superman costume.

But instead, they had to severely gay up the costume, a stupid t shirt neckline, rubbery cape,
women panties (victoria secret type), stupid s shield on belt and no s shield on cape.

Not to mention, they made the suit brownish/maroon. It wasn't even Red at all.

It looks stupid on screen and gives off a negative vibe.

Sure, you can make the red a bit darker, but not to such an extent that it looks brown.

All they had to was use the reeve suit, update the materials, and tone down the red slightly,

not exactly rocket science,

but hey, when you have retards in charge of a 270 million dollar movie, what do you expect ??

[Qwerty©]

the public wants the reeve costume/comic book costume. Not the disgrace that was given to us last year by singer and co.

Totally agree, all they had to do was get an actual Reeve suit, update the materials, and thats it, you got your new superman costume.

But instead, they had to severely gay up the costume, a stupid t shirt neckline, rubbery cape,
women panties (victoria secret type), stupid s shield on belt and no s shield on cape.

Not to mention, they made the suit brownish/maroon. It wasn't even Red at all.

It looks stupid on screen and gives off a negative vibe.

Sure, you can make the red a bit darker, but not to such an extent that it looks brown.

All they had to was use the reeve suit, update the materials, and tone down the red slightly,

not exactly rocket science,

but hey, when you have retards in charge of a 270 million dollar movie, what do you expect ??I am so, so glad you don't actually represent the general public as you so claim.

So glad.

[Super Kal]

I am so, so glad you don't actually represent the general public as you so claim.

So glad.
i agree.

[Lightning54SC]

id much rather have rouths suit just brightened up a bit

[SUPERSEBAS]

the public wants the reeve costume/comic book costume. Not the disgrace that was given to us last year by singer and co.

Totally agree, all they had to do was get an actual Reeve suit, update the materials, and thats it, you got your new superman costume.

But instead, they had to severely gay up the costume, a stupid t shirt neckline, rubbery cape,
women panties (victoria secret type), stupid s shield on belt and no s shield on cape.

Not to mention, they made the suit brownish/maroon. It wasn't even Red at all.

It looks stupid on screen and gives off a negative vibe.

Sure, you can make the red a bit darker, but not to such an extent that it looks brown.

All they had to was use the reeve suit, update the materials, and tone down the red slightly,

not exactly rocket science,

but hey, when you have retards in charge of a 270 million dollar movie, what do you expect ??

Agree with you! I really think that routh would have a much better costume that Chris, but the use the consept of retro, takeing a early suit as a model of the new suit, that is ok for batman because batman was batman BEGINS!!!! but this Superman was a continue history of the others fist 2 , were the superman look was the classic and actual, not a begining, so they should get the design of Reeve suit an made it with new modern materials to look actual annd more realitic! Than is what i think, and the same with the hairlook.