The Hip Hop Thread

[kamesan]

^^^^Thats the truth...
anyway...here are two excellent albums that are a little more recent...if you like the Roots then you'll love this one...
http://www.accesshiphop.com/images/covers/12627.jpg
Panacea-Ink Is My Drink
and then of course a big R.I.P. to James Yancey aka J-Dilla
http://www.accesshiphop.com/images/covers/10269.jpg
The Shining
J-Dilla has produced for artists like Common, Kanye West, The Roots...his resume goes on and on. He'll be missed:csad:
:up::up:

[Cmill216]

Bump, son!

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, any new and good music to report?

Cuz I haven't heard any :(

[PhotoJones]

i'm still wondering where "fishscale" was...:cwink:

[nosebleed.]

How was the latest Mos Def? I haven't heard ANYTHING about it so I guess it sucks.

[Cmill216]

Haha, any new and good music to report?

Cuz I haven't heard any :(

I've been mostly Lupe Fiasco Mixtapin' lately. The stuff is just friggin' unreal.

And for the 1,000th time: I'm putting out my recommendation of Danger Mouse/Gemini's Ghetto Pop Life. It's sick, b****es! :cmad:

Oh, and The Grey Album is still the godly. That is all. :o

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm waitin for the next Eminem album to drop.

[AndThePickles]

Haha, any new and good music to report?

Cuz I haven't heard any :(

Yeah, some good new music would be nice :csad: All I listen to anymore is old stuff.

[PhotoJones]

I'm waitin for the next Eminem album to drop.

so you can avoid it?

[nosebleed.]

Yeah, some good new music would be nice :csad: All I listen to anymore is old stuff.

Speaking of old stuff...here's some new old stuff from an old guy

Jazzy Jeff
Live From Nowhere CD

Everytime I see Jazzy Jeff's name, I always have visions of him getting thrown out the Banks' Bel-Air residence. Uncle Phil never really liked Jazzy, but maybe if he gave his mixes a listen he woulda had a change of heart. Jeff is clean on the cut and nice on the mix - a top notch selector by all means. On Live From Nowhere, Jeff blesses you with THE definitive classic 90s hip-hop mix. You should know the lyrics to pretty much every track on here (shame on you if you don't!), with tracks from the Notorious B.I.G., Jay-Z, Pharcyde, Nas, ODB, Das EFX, Tribe, KRS, Pete Rock, Brand Nubian, Cru(!), Organized Konfusion and more. 49 tracks total with no sign of Will Smith. I guess "Men In Black" isn't classic enough. -snackmaster

Def getting this.

[Colossal Spoons]

so you can avoid it?

Em's CDs are usually good for 4 or 5 sick tracks.

[nosebleed.]

Classic (http://www.turntablelab.com/assets/audio/11116/121968.ram)

[WTFimVENOM]

Hieroglyphics
Jedi Mind Tricks
Atmosphere
Jurassic Five
Damian Marley

[Cmill216]

Speaking of old stuff...here's some new old stuff from an old guy

Jazzy Jeff
Live From Nowhere CD

Everytime I see Jazzy Jeff's name, I always have visions of him getting thrown out the Banks' Bel-Air residence. Uncle Phil never really liked Jazzy, but maybe if he gave his mixes a listen he woulda had a change of heart. Jeff is clean on the cut and nice on the mix - a top notch selector by all means. On Live From Nowhere, Jeff blesses you with THE definitive classic 90s hip-hop mix. You should know the lyrics to pretty much every track on here (shame on you if you don't!), with tracks from the Notorious B.I.G., Jay-Z, Pharcyde, Nas, ODB, Das EFX, Tribe, KRS, Pete Rock, Brand Nubian, Cru(!), Organized Konfusion and more. 49 tracks total with no sign of Will Smith. I guess "Men In Black" isn't classic enough. -snackmaster

Def getting this.

Ha. Nice. I picked up his Soul Mixtape a while back. Very cool stuff.

[terry78]

^Yeah, I'm getting into Jedi Mind Tricks also, man. Also just started listening Aesop Rock.

[nosebleed.]

Hieroglyphics
Jedi Mind Tricks
Atmosphere
Jurassic Five
Damian Marley

I was just listening to Hiero the other day. 93 til infinity cd to be exact. I should try and listen to their new stuff.

[Crooklyn]

Em's CDs are usually good for 4 or 5 sick tracks.
He lost it now, imo. Every album, he's had one very standout track displaying his monstrous flow (Infinite, Just Don't Give A F**k, The Way I Am, Till I Collapse, 8 Mile Road), but his latest had absolutely none.

Not to mention in that Re-Up album, 50 merked his ass in all the songs they were both in. Which should NEVER happen.

Em...f**k you. You brought me into rap, and you've become one of the few rappers I wish would quit the game now. :csad:

[nosebleed.]

I used to really like Eminem's weird style...especially his freestyles and his contributions to Rawkus's mixtapes. But he has really fallen off and is no longer hungry enough to be more than what he is...a mockery of hip hop.

more classic (http://www.turntablelab.com/assets/audio/11116/121959.ram)

[Cmill216]

Well there was no way he was going to top The Marshall Mathers LP, so of course there was no way to go but down at that point.

[Colossal Spoons]

He lost it now, imo. Every album, he's had one very standout track displaying his monstrous flow (Infinite, Just Don't Give A F**k, The Way I Am, Till I Collapse, 8 Mile Road), but his latest had absolutely none.

Not to mention in that Re-Up album, 50 merked his ass in all the songs they were both in. Which should NEVER happen.

Em...f**k you. You brought me into rap, and you've become one of the few rappers I wish would quit the game now. :csad:

I avoided The Re-Up big time. I'm one of the few people who enjoyed the majority of The Eminem Show.

[Crooklyn]

I just heard this old Lupe song, and just confirms what I've always thought. This kid is the next f'n Nas of the rap game. Seriously, I have never seen such talent this early in a career:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/lupe-fiasco-twilight-zone-mp3.html

[Talking:]
Uh, uh, uh, uh, 1-5 who's crooked than One-Time?
I say 1-5 who's more crooked than One-Time?
Yeah, yeah check is my mic on? As I twilight zone?

[Verse:]
My mindstate rewinds wakes
And fast-forwards bullets makin'a B-line for my face
Then they stop like Neo
Laugh at me throw some cash at me then fly pass me
But one ricochette off the wall to come ask me
Am I scared of him or the "***** that blast me"
Or maybe just the hammer that goes to be a hole in an innocent bystander
My eye's a camera my ear's a microphone
My mind is Pro Tools my head is a stool
Whats recorded in my dome gets reported when I zone
My mouth is a speaker I'm anchoring the misery
There's no friends my enemy of my enemy is my enemy
Beekers and test tubes full of memories
In my labatory I create stories
Doze off then wake up surrounded by Forties
Wit glocks tucked in they labels
And they caps is baseball hats
Playin poker at a table
Cigarrets massage they shoulders in belly tops showin off they navels
A dime sack side bets, a tech is runnin' for president
Jesus pieces walk around with *****s hangin from they necks
Monoploy is playin' chess
I just picked up an obituary of a bullet proof vest
Put the headphone on my mouth speak into my ears
Yea microphone check, check, check, check, check
Check, a pair of Air Forces told me Rims've been extinct for years
Been ethnic cleansed by Jersey's tryna take over the set
And Television is on deathrow for killing BET and MTV over a dice game
And paralyizing CNN for knifing him in the neck
I hear Clear Channel's been fightin him in the rec
Who's in for givin' grape Kool-Aid laced wit STRY 9 to Mixtapes and arm robbin cassettes
Dope told me Weed was a crack fiend but Crack told me Dope was a base head
Hi-hats told police he was just a soldier he did what the Bass said
The Snare and the Kick didn't make it out alive
The Sample made it out with some money but he died in the ride
The 808 got caught wit some work (He ain't never comin' home)
So the MPC's and the MP3's is fightin over his turf
Sean Don just gave birth
But she's thinkin' bout leavin it on the doorstep of a church
Cristal can't have kids she plottin' to kidnap it that she orchestrated with a purse
But Gucci told Fendi and Fendi turned and around and told Henny
And Henny is Moets baby's father
But she tried it anyway disguised as nurse
In the newspapers it says "Hip-Hop called Rock n Roll racist"
The Six ripped the Five and the Maybach taped it
A Hundred dollar bill just signed a record deal
But blew all his money on the Braceletes
And givin' the Gold Dollar a face lift
A Button Up just drove by in a 6-4 Impalla
All the Rolex's is hatin' you see the smirks on they faces
The Havatampas is defending the Dutches they keep catchin cases
But the judge is a Swisha he just give em iBonds and community service with the Papers
so the Newport's is gettin mad at the ZigZags then out come the razors
See the Kool's is killers on the creep
Rush up on the Philly, leave his guts spillin on the street
Some Gold Grills burned down a building of some teeth
Some Sharpened Tooth Brushes is holding the trampoline cuz some children finna to leap
I just seen Rocawear rock Sean John to sleep with the same heat that Baby Phat carried
Sprint is pimpin Nextel she just gave head to a Black Berry...
I heard she go two-ways
But he was skeetin on her face as it was beepin on my waist
This is the mind of Lupe
Just make sure my mic's on when I Twilight Zone, Zone, Zone, Zone


Ain't NO ONE in the rap game can touch this kid's genius. His head is on some next-level ish. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Shocked/015.gif

[nosebleed.]

WOW...I've heard that Lupe joint before but never really listened to it. That guy must've been HIIIIIGGGHHH to write some craziness like that...personifying instruments...wow.

I just heard the remix to Busta's New York Sh**. It's Nice (http://www.turntablelab.com/assets/audio/14973/144780.ram)

[Cmill216]

Crook, do you have any of the Fiasco mixtapes? 'Cause I won't hesitate to supply anybody with 'em.

[Crooklyn]

Crook, do you have any of the Fiasco mixtapes? 'Cause I won't hesitate to supply anybody with 'em.
Man if you got them in a good quality, please send 'em. I've been trying to dl every single one ever since I heard 'Switch' from one of his mixtapes. I'll upload that in a while too. His flow is :wow: on that one.

WOW...I've heard that Lupe joint before but never really listened to it. That guy must've been HIIIIIGGGHHH to write some craziness like that...personifying instruments...wow.
Exactly, this kid is the truth. I heard some peeps say this ish was a FREESTYLE, I'm kinda suspect on that cuz that's just mind-blowing if it's straight off the dome. But if it is one, goddamn Lupe deserves the Hip-Hop crown. :o

Oh, and since it got caught in the last page:

I just heard this old Lupe song, and just confirms what I've always thought. This kid is the next f'n Nas of the rap game. Seriously, I have never seen such talent this early in a career:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/lupe-fiasco-twilight-zone-mp3.html

[Talking:]
Uh, uh, uh, uh, 1-5 who's crooked than One-Time?
I say 1-5 who's more crooked than One-Time?
Yeah, yeah check is my mic on? As I twilight zone?

[Verse:]
My mindstate rewinds wakes
And fast-forwards bullets makin'a B-line for my face
Then they stop like Neo
Laugh at me throw some cash at me then fly pass me
But one ricochette off the wall to come ask me
Am I scared of him or the "***** that blast me"
Or maybe just the hammer that goes to be a hole in an innocent bystander
My eye's a camera my ear's a microphone
My mind is Pro Tools my head is a stool
Whats recorded in my dome gets reported when I zone
My mouth is a speaker I'm anchoring the misery
There's no friends my enemy of my enemy is my enemy
Beekers and test tubes full of memories
In my labatory I create stories
Doze off then wake up surrounded by Forties
Wit glocks tucked in they labels
And they caps is baseball hats
Playin poker at a table
Cigarrets massage they shoulders in belly tops showin off they navels
A dime sack side bets, a tech is runnin' for president
Jesus pieces walk around with *****s hangin from they necks
Monoploy is playin' chess
I just picked up an obituary of a bullet proof vest
Put the headphone on my mouth speak into my ears
Yea microphone check, check, check, check, check
Check, a pair of Air Forces told me Rims've been extinct for years
Been ethnic cleansed by Jersey's tryna take over the set
And Television is on deathrow for killing BET and MTV over a dice game
And paralyizing CNN for knifing him in the neck
I hear Clear Channel's been fightin him in the rec
Who's in for givin' grape Kool-Aid laced wit STRY 9 to Mixtapes and arm robbin cassettes
Dope told me Weed was a crack fiend but Crack told me Dope was a base head
Hi-hats told police he was just a soldier he did what the Bass said
The Snare and the Kick didn't make it out alive
The Sample made it out with some money but he died in the ride
The 808 got caught wit some work (He ain't never comin' home)
So the MPC's and the MP3's is fightin over his turf
Sean Don just gave birth
But she's thinkin' bout leavin it on the doorstep of a church
Cristal can't have kids she plottin' to kidnap it that she orchestrated with a purse
But Gucci told Fendi and Fendi turned and around and told Henny
And Henny is Moets baby's father
But she tried it anyway disguised as nurse
In the newspapers it says "Hip-Hop called Rock n Roll racist"
The Six ripped the Five and the Maybach taped it
A Hundred dollar bill just signed a record deal
But blew all his money on the Braceletes
And givin' the Gold Dollar a face lift
A Button Up just drove by in a 6-4 Impalla
All the Rolex's is hatin' you see the smirks on they faces
The Havatampas is defending the Dutches they keep catchin cases
But the judge is a Swisha he just give em iBonds and community service with the Papers
so the Newport's is gettin mad at the ZigZags then out come the razors
See the Kool's is killers on the creep
Rush up on the Philly, leave his guts spillin on the street
Some Gold Grills burned down a building of some teeth
Some Sharpened Tooth Brushes is holding the trampoline cuz some children finna to leap
I just seen Rocawear rock Sean John to sleep with the same heat that Baby Phat carried
Sprint is pimpin Nextel she just gave head to a Black Berry...
I heard she go two-ways
But he was skeetin on her face as it was beepin on my waist
This is the mind of Lupe
Just make sure my mic's on when I Twilight Zone, Zone, Zone, Zone


Ain't NO ONE in the rap game can touch this kid's genius. His head is on some next-level ish. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Shocked/015.gif

[Cmill216]

Man if you got them in a good quality, please send 'em. I've been trying to dl every single one ever since I heard 'Switch' from one of his mixtapes. I'll upload that in a while too. His flow is :wow: on that one.

Good quality? Try perfect quality.

I've got Fahrenheit 1/15 Parts I and II (Revenge of the Nerds), Rhyming Ape (I think it's mostly Lupe freestyle/Gorillaz mashups), and the Touch the Sky Mixtape. Still working on the collection, though. I'll shoot you a PM in a bit, and anybody else wants any just ask.

[nosebleed.]

I can see where some peeps say its freestyle. Especially with a lot of non-rhyming lines in there...but if it is then dayam...son is blessed. Blessed and HIIIGGGHHH.

I love this: http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/videos/id.106/title.joell-ortiz-hip-hop

[Crooklyn]

Aight, here's the 'Switch' track I was talkin' about. It's more of an experimental song, basically everytime you hear the word "switch", Lupe changes his flow. It gets real crazy at the end:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/switch-the-science-project-mp3-59j.html

[Intro: Lupe talking]
Yeah, revenge, now what we gonna do right now, a ha ugh, is gonna try a little experiment, just a little experiment, you know what I'm saying, a little science project, you know what I'm saying, I like to call it

Switch.
You you you, yes let the words woo you
till you woozy.
Let the lyrics subdue you,
massage and sooth you,
move you till conscience lose you.
Lu now rules you,
you do what Lu do and you'll do beautiful.
Switch.
I'm the meanest.
You the meanest?
I'm the meanest
and I mean this.
now I don't mean this
to sound fiendish,
but I'm a genious.
You a genious?
And the cleanest.
Never seen this
as clean as
my cleanest.
From on top,
from underneath,
from behind
or in between.
Switch.
I'm a hustler creeping with my hat low.
*****s know I pack so,
what they gonna do that for?
*****s got my back though
like answering the back door.
Catch you I'm a slap you, leave you redder than the bat phone.
Switch.
With a little bit of this and a little bit of that.
That.
Mixed with a little bit of pimp,
and a little bit of mac
and a little bit of limp
and a whole lotta gangster lean.
I can't be seen.
I ain't the King, but a ***** is strengthening
to paint the scene
and take the thing over
like a soldier caught in a polo gather hood like a cobra ***** thank a teen
Switch.

[Background:]
Switch *****, this is how I got it, I switch like hydraulic cars, switch like the barge *****. Switch.[Background]
[Interlude: Lupe talking]
Aight, now remember that, that's a, that was a part of the experiment. I had to set it up so. So don't worry I know what your thinking, I was thinking the same thing. Just, just follow me ok. Watch, ok. Come on now.

Murder *****s,
step on my shoes I hurt a *****.
Kill a *****.
Fill a ***** with holes.
Call women hoes.
Hold up *****s, hold up hoes.
Break the calm, dead in they bombs.
Blow up *****s, blow up hoes.
Turn around, smack they moms.
Switch.
Heal *****s.
Educate and build *****s
and still they *****s is real
to respect women.
Treat'em like they real,
they fell *****.
Watch the birds,
watch Dr. Phil *****.
Chill *****.
go learn a skill *****.
Aight.
Switch.
Rims, Mercedes Benz, twenties, twenty-twos, twenty-fours, rolls, gold, platinum watches, cases of more.
Gucci, rubis, mansions, models, VIP, Ferraris, chinchillas, diamond rings, change, Range Rovers, bling bling.
Switch.
*****s bust his trains.
Pocket full of change.
Dimes, quarters, taking orders,
delivering pizzas
and conditionles beaters.
Hand-me-down sneakers.
Silver.
Wannabe models won't show me love
and I can't get in the club.
Switch.

[Background:]
Switch *****, this is how I got it, I switch like hydraulic cars, switch like the barge *****. Switch.[Background]
[Interlude: Lupe talking]
Ha, it getting good right? Yeah, aight, so check this out. Now go back to the first one, aight, run back to that one. We're going to have a little bit more fun with that one, aight. You ready? Aight. Come on.

Switch.
Hey hey hey, it's coming back to you.
Lu no longer rules you.
You can do what you do.
Back to your usual.
Switch.
It's official.
It's official.
I'm official,
as officials
who got the stripes
and the flags
and the whistles
Switch.
Whistle and watch my *****s come
from the underground,
just like Thriller play Bambi
and you gonna hear that double sound.
Switch.
They can't touch the sound
that I'm busting now.
It's like a cloud trying to touch the ground.
Tough and bound, ever since we're touching down.
Jealous *****s catch your feelings cuz I'm hustling now.
What?
Switch.
They be hating.
Switch.
They be hating.
Switch.
What? What? What?
They be hating.
Don't give them stage
Switch.
What's a ***** supposed to tell them when they up in my face then?
Switch.
That you got a cousing that don't mind catching cases.
Busting *****s' heads in, slapping *****s' faces.
Switch.
And he a do it.
He a do it.
He a do it.
And I'll prove it.
Cuz I didn't seen it.
You didn't seen it?
I'd a seen it.
He the meanest.
Switch.
Ho, ho, ho. Wait.
I mean it,
I thought you were the meanest,
see?
That's why this thing is fiendish.
Right, now.
Switch.

[Outro: Lupe talking]
Yeah, experiment done. I think that was a goody, I think that was a good experiment, I think that was nice. It's a nice little science project.
[Background:]
Switch *****, I got it switch like hydraulic cars, switch like the barge *****. Switch.[Background]
Haha! Revenge! Shoutouts to my homies at asylum. What up? Yeah.

If ya'll ain't convinced Lupe is the best in the game from those 2 songs I posted...quit rap. You don't deserve it. :o

[nosebleed.]

I love it. I haven't heard that before but its a damn fun song to listen to. I bet he had a blast recording it.

[GoldenAgeHero]

I avoided The Re-Up big time. I'm one of the few people who enjoyed the majority of The Eminem Show.

i liked the eminem show, theres a good chunk of good songs on thier. i really hope he goes back to his old self. although he does need that one signature song out, he has plenty of matereial for that(britney spears,lindsay lohan,paris hilton,k-fed) that single is going to be sweet.

another thing he needs to do, is stop collaborating with these other ****ty rappers including 50.

[Crooklyn]

He needs to collabo with some of the greats. His game is ALWAYS on point if he knows he's in the presence of a legend.

[Cmill216]

He needs to collabo with some of the greats. His game is ALWAYS on point if he knows he's in the presence of a legend.

Exhibit A: "Renegade"

[Crooklyn]

Exhibit A: "Renegade"
Funny thing is, his lyrics were written before Jay ever came on. It was a song with Royce originally. Hov heard it, and wanted it for his album, and Em didn't change a single lyric.

[nosebleed.]

Em needs someone he can feed off of...someone who's flow can be as complicated and off kilter as his can be. He surrounds himself with mediocre lyricists...how can he grow as an MC? He's grown stagnant and only in short bursts shows his skills.

Any MC suggestions?

[Cmill216]

Any MC suggestions?

I checked out that Panacea recommendation Fanticon posted a page back. Not bad.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Em needs someone he can feed off of...someone who's flow can be as complicated and off kilter as his can be. He surrounds himself with mediocre lyricists...how can he grow as an MC? He's grown stagnant and only in short bursts shows his skills.



exactly,man! akon and all those other chumps are'nt really up to his potential.

[nosebleed.]

man...does it get any better than this (http://www.turntablelab.com/assets/audio/17697/145566.ram)?

[Colossal Spoons]

Em needs someone he can feed off of...someone who's flow can be as complicated and off kilter as his can be. He surrounds himself with mediocre lyricists...how can he grow as an MC? He's grown stagnant and only in short bursts shows his skills.

Any MC suggestions?

Rakim?

[Crooklyn]

Rakim?
I don't know if he still got it though. But his verse on "The Watcher 2".....:eek:

[GoldenAgeHero]

man...does it get any better than this (http://www.turntablelab.com/assets/audio/17697/145566.ram)?

what do you keep linking too? cause im getting nothing.

[nosebleed.]

you guys don't have realplayer? what happens when you click on it?

[Colossal Spoons]

I don't know if he still got it though. But his verse on "The Watcher 2".....:eek:

His verse blew me away son

[GoldenAgeHero]

nah i dont have real player man. windows! get with the times.

[Crooklyn]

His verse blew me away son
I still cry to this day because the album with Dre didn't pan out. :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

I still cry to this day because the album with Dre didn't pan out. :csad:

Detox my ass :o

[nosebleed.]

nah i dont have real player man. windows! get with the times.

I spread my love to all formats. Bill Gates didn't put a ring on my finger. Go dl it and check those links, classic hip hop...it'll make you wanna cry compared to what's out nowadays.

[RockSP]

I've got Fahrenheit 1/15 Parts I and II (Revenge of the Nerds), Rhyming Ape (I think it's mostly Lupe freestyle/Gorillaz mashups), and the Touch the Sky Mixtape. Still working on the collection, though. I'll shoot you a PM in a bit, and anybody else wants any just ask.

I'm askin. The ones in bold. Thanks buddy!!!!!:woot: :cwink:

[chamber-music]

Has anyone got Danger Mouse & Jemini's Album Ghetto Pop Life. It came out in 2003 and I think its a really good album that doesn't get enough praise. I still think Bush Boys is still one of the best rap songs about George W Bush/Iraq by anyone in hip hop. Danger Mouse has some awesome beats and its a pretty fun album. If anyone has listened to it they should definitely download of buy it.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00009RAW9.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[Ongie]

I really love Danger Mouse, and need to check out that record again.

In other news.... My playlist has been pretty much owned by Clipse lately. What are your thoughts on Clipse?

[Cmill216]

Has anyone got Danger Mouse & Jemini's Album Ghetto Pop Life. It came out in 2003 and I think its a really good album that doesn't get enough praise. I still think Bush Boys is still one of the best rap songs about George W Bush/Iraq by anyone in hip hop. Danger Mouse has some awesome beats and its a pretty fun album. If anyone has listened to it they should definitely download of buy it.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00009RAW9.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

DAMMIT!!!!!!

I've been recommending that album to people for the past few months. And none of these b****es listen to me. :cmad:

Props chamber. It's a great album, and DM's production is outstanding. :up:

[Cmill216]

In other news.... My playlist has been pretty much owned by Clipse lately. What are your thoughts on Clipse?

Loved Hell Hath No Fury, wasn't really a big fan before that. But Pharrell brought his A Game on that one.

[Armand Z Trip]

I got Lupe's Touch the Sky and Lupe the Jedi, they're so good I never even bothered to buy his studio record.

[chamber-music]

I really love Danger Mouse, and need to check out that record again.

In other news.... My playlist has been pretty much owned by Clipse lately. What are your thoughts on Clipse?

Keys Open Doors has one of the best beats Neptunes have put out in a long time. The key chimeing is genuis. Hell Hath No Fury is one of the few gangsta rap albums of this decade that I have actully enjoyed. Too bad in didn't sell that well.

Why is it that critically acclaimed albums never sell well. Its like have critics like your album is the kiss of death.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Why is it that critically acclaimed albums never sell well. Its like have critics like your album is the kiss of death.

Amen...that is so true.

Speaking of real rap music-makers, where is Talib Kweli?

[Mr Jide]

Clipse are my favourite rap group. The thornton brothers are the only reason why I'm listening to hiphop at the moment coz I'm really not feelin' most of the crap put out at the moment.

As for Lil' wayne. I'm feelin the guy but he aint got **** on the clipse.

[Cmill216]

Amen...that is so true.

Speaking of real rap music-makers, where is Talib Kweli?

His new album's out in April. I think Just Blaze, Kanye, and Rick Rubin are all producing it.

[Cmill216]

Clipse are my favourite rap group. The thornton brothers are the only reason why I'm listening to hiphop at the moment coz I'm really not feelin' most of the crap put out at the moment.

No love for Fiasco? :huh:

[Mr Jide]

Amen...that is so true.

Speaking of real rap music-makers, where is Talib Kweli?

He's still around.

[Mr Jide]

No love for Fiasco? :huh:

The dude's tight but the clipse are melting ice caps.

[Colossal Spoons]

Wamp Wamp :huh:




:down:

[Crooklyn]

The dude's tight but the clipse are melting ice caps.
I think they're both 2 different types of rappers. Clipse got the whole gangsta lean vibe on lock, and Lupe has them outrageous it'll pass over your head if you don't listen closely lyrics.

Both got some insane flows though. :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Clipse are my favourite rap group. The thornton brothers are the only reason why I'm listening to hiphop at the moment coz I'm really not feelin' most of the crap put out at the moment.

As for Lil' wayne. I'm feelin the guy but he aint got **** on the clipse.

What? I don't understand how anyone feels this guy? Then again everyone has different tastes, but I can't get into any of his crap.

[Cmill216]

What? I don't understand how anyone feels this guy? Then again everyone has different tastes, but I can't get into any of his crap.

Co-Signed. Lil Wayne is straight up garbage. :huh:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Co-Signed. Lil Wayne is straight up garbage. :huh:

Word :up:

[Crooklyn]

Co-Signed. Lil Wayne is straight up garbage. :huh:
He has his pretty bad moments, especially now. He does have a few gems though. 'Fireman' was a dope-ass track, I was feelin' his flow on that one. :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

He has his pretty bad moments, especially now. He does have a few gems though. 'Fireman' was a dope-ass track, I was feelin' his flow on that one. :up:


I don't feel him at all in any aspect, never have most likely never will. But then again I don't like a lot of the mainstream Emcees now. But that is just me.

[Cmill216]

Seriously, he completely kills Robin Thicke's "All Night Long" (and not in a good way). :o

[Lightning Strykez!]

Co-Signed. Lil Wayne is straight up garbage. :huh:

Agreed. I could never get into that guys stuff. And I couldn't understand what all the women see in him. Girls think he's hot? He resembles the Troll that staked out under the bridge with the Three Billys Goats Gruff.

[Crooklyn]

We ARE talking about the same genre in which Hov has bagged Beyonce. I mean, c'mon... :o

[TNC9852002]

I'm not a serious rap fan...I listen to rap casually, but then again, I have a very weird taste in music...I'm still listening to MC Hammer.. :p

-TNC

[Colossal Spoons]

Hammer eh?


*builds TNC a time machine so he can join us in 2007* :p

[TNC9852002]

I listen to everything though,...One day I'm listening to Smokey Robinson and Evelyn King, then I'm listening to Billy Ocean and Big Daddy Kane, then I'm on House of Pain and Gang Starr, Slum Village and Cormega...I'm all over the place here..

-TNC

[TNC9852002]

I listen to everything though,...One day I'm listening to Smokey Robinson and Evelyn King, then I'm listening to Billy Ocean and Big Daddy Kane, then I'm on House of Pain and Gang Starr, Slum Village and Cormega, Lacuna Coil and Binary Star...

I'm all over the place here..

-TNC

[nosebleed.]

Billy Ocean eh? I heard Caribbean Queen on the old school station today...I never noticed how much it sounded like Billie Jean.

When is NY going to take hip hop back from the dirty south? And no...Mims doesn't count (ugh). Busta's New York **** was a step towards the right direction...now we need a Rakim, Hova, Nas collabo.

[Fanticon]

This just came out today and its really f***ing amazing!!! It'll never be played on MTV so you'll just have to go out and discover it if you don't already know about it.
http://www.accesshiphop.com/images/covers/12697_b.jpg
EL-P's I'll Sleep When You're Dead feat. The Mars Volta, Trent Reznor and Aesop Rock to name a few that contributed. You may have heard some of these tracks played on Adult Swim recently. :cwink:

Also out today...for all you Dilla fans, or to anyone who didn't realize Jay Dee was producing your favorite artist's tracks. Stones Throw gives new life after his death to this re:release of Ruff Draft...remixed and remastered with bonus tracks and a second disc that comes with the instrumentals.
http://www.accesshiphop.com/images/covers/12789_b.jpg

[dr venture]

Good quality? Try perfect quality.

I've got Fahrenheit 1/15 Parts I and II (Revenge of the Nerds), Rhyming Ape (I think it's mostly Lupe freestyle/Gorillaz mashups), and the Touch the Sky Mixtape. Still working on the collection, though. I'll shoot you a PM in a bit, and anybody else wants any just ask.

Can I get that as well

[RskimB]

I listen to a lot of music: jazz, indie rock, grime, 8 bit, alternative etc and especially hip hop. Typically listen to more lyrical artists like Little Brother, Lupe, Nas, Royce da 5'9, One Be Lo...

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I listen to everything though,...One day I'm listening to Smokey Robinson and Evelyn King, then I'm listening to Billy Ocean and Big Daddy Kane, then I'm on House of Pain and Gang Starr, Slum Village and Cormega, Lacuna Coil and Binary Star...

I'm all over the place here..

-TNC

Anyone that has Big Daddy Kane and Gang Starr in their music catalog knows good music.

[Fanticon]

Two of the other best hip hop releases this year
http://www.accesshiphop.com/images/covers/12523_b.jpg
Decompoze of Binary Star fame...drops this album featuring the likes of One Be Lo and Elhzi.
And Busdriver's RoadKillOvercoat
http://www.accesshiphop.com/images/covers/11654_b.jpg

[OverMyHead]

NaS
KrS-ONE
Rakim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaDIeXEJPyo

[Mr Jide]

lol, you guys got some serious hate for weezy f. Dude's alright. Leather so soft, hustler music, shooter, fireman, his rmx to jay's show me what you got, the black republicans rmx with juelz and bird call with cam and jr writer. Dude aint that bad.

[chamber-music]

I listen to a lot of music: jazz, indie rock, grime, 8 bit, alternative etc and especially hip hop. Typically listen to more lyrical artists like Little Brother, Lupe, Nas, Royce da 5'9, One Be Lo...

Wow you listen to grime. I didn't know people in the states really listen to it.

[Crooklyn]

the black republicans rmx with juelz
F**k outta here with that ****. Them dudes completely butchered a modern classic. God...I can't even express my hate for what they did to that song. Especially Weezy, I don't know what.the.hell he was on when he was in the booth. Had to be high.

If that was a response to the team-up of Jay/Nas, they failed horribly. Proved how inferior they really are. :down

[OverMyHead]

What do you think about the link I gave you guys?

[chamber-music]

What do you think about the link I gave you guys?

I've seen/heard it before itsa Tuuuunnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeee! :yay:

[terry78]

I bought that new Juggaknots one yesterday. Surprisingly good.

[Mr Jide]

F**k outta here with that ****. Them dudes completely butchered a modern classic. God...I can't even express my hate for what they did to that song. Especially Weezy, I don't know what.the.hell he was on when he was in the booth. Had to be high.

If that was a response to the team-up of Jay/Nas, they failed horribly. Proved how inferior they really are. :down

N1gga, you need to relax. I never said the track was genius or weezy is the illest. I'm just saying I like some of his stuff, the dude's alright.

[Cmill216]

Not totally rap related, but this is the best damn remix I've heard of JT's "My Love":

http://www.zshare.net/audio/lullaby-love-mp3.html

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

N1gga, you need to relax. I never said the track was genius or weezy is the illest. I'm just saying I like some of his stuff, the dude's alright.

See to me I think he is crap, because to me Emcees like Jay-Z (currently) or Eminem (currently) are just alright they don't impress me anymore like they used to. And they are far beyond his lyrical content or ability. IMHO

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

And yet at the same time I enjoy some stuff like this.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XgjIZR7vjvU

It's somewhat hypocritical, but not entirely, because although I am all about so called quote un quote "real hip hop" I do enjoy just listening to something fun/that bumps/or that I can just dance to at a club.

So I do enjoy a variety or Rap from the godfathers, to some of the most lyrical devastating emcees alive, to something I can just chill and relax to.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm glad I haven't heard the Black Republicans remix; especially if Santana is anywhere near it :down:

[RskimB]

Wow you listen to grime. I didn't know people in the states really listen to it.

Yea I'm trying to get into it anyway still listening to more mainstream dudes like Kano, Dizzy, and Sway, I tried to get into Roots Manuva but wasnt feeling him too much... you know anyone I should be listening to?


In an unrelated note, I just heard the new track Krs One - "Hip Hop Lives", its pretty dope everyone should check it out if you haven't already. Marley Marl behind the boards too :D

[William_C]

I switch between both. Depening on what mood I'm in. But I love rap & hip-hop music. The bass just hits with that rhythm.

Most of the time, when I'm at school, walking through the hallways or doing class work, I'll listen to MF DOOM, ATCQ, and some Wu-Tang Clan.

But when I get in the car, and drive around, I'll play a lot of radio hits, or some OutKast, or popular song's instrumentals.

Gotta have that party music, and gotta have that underground music.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

If anyone hasn't checked out this guy out you should.

Dj Zeph :up:

[Fanticon]

I bought that new Juggaknots one yesterday. Surprisingly good.

First track is so sick:up: I could do without stripjoint tho.

[nosebleed.]

I'm glad I haven't heard the Black Republicans remix; especially if Santana is anywhere near it :down:

but Dipset beats are so bangin :huh:. but yeah...santana's flow is pretty much garbage.

[Crooklyn]

but Dipset beats are so bangin :huh:
They are though. :O

[nosebleed.]

I'm diggin the new Common with Will.I.Am. It sounds like old school BEP beats (if you can consider 1997 old school).

[Abaddon]

random - Akon reminds me of Mr. Eko.:o

[Ultra-Herald9]

Has anyone mentioned Lupe? His rhymes are refreshing and deep. Takes me back to the better days of hip-hop.:woot:

[Cmill216]

Has anyone mentioned Lupe?

Go back about a page or two. We already did our Fiasco worshipping for the week. :rolleyes: ;)

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Lupe is alright...I'm not to impressed with him lyrically. Don't get me wrong I like him but there is still a void commercially that has yet to be filled. Although I doubt it ever will be.

[Crooklyn]

Lupe is alright...I'm not to impressed with him lyrically.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Laughing/006.gif

there is still a void commercially that has yet to be filled. Although I doubt it ever will be.
:huh:

[Cmill216]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Laughing/006.gif


QFMFT

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Laughing/006.gif


:huh:

So you're saying he is on par with guys like, Rakim, Wu-Tang, early Jay-Z stuff, Notorious B.I.G., Nas, Andre (pre 3000), and Kool G Rap?

Because those emcees impress me.

That doesn't even mention the emcee's that aren't commercial. Not saying all underground Emcees are better, but there are plenty that are.

As for the void, commercial Rap isn't the same as it used to be, no where near it. There are still several good emcees and groups around but not like it used to be. No where near what it used to be.

[Crooklyn]

So you're saying he is on par with guys like, Rakim, Wu-Tang, early Jay-Z stuff, Notorious B.I.G., Nas, Andre (pre 3000), and Kool G Rap?
When it comes to LYRICAL ability? Hell f'n yeah. Half those guys you mentioned were more noted for their subject material and flow rather than their actual words. Which leads to..

Because those emcees impress me.
Those guys you mentioned stood out against the rest because they had that extra something. Imo, Lupe has that in spades, ESPECIALLY when compared to 99% of other rappers, mainstream or underground. I'm sorry, but if you're not impressed by Lupe, you're either skimming through it, or it flew past by your head.

As for the void, commercial Rap isn't the same as it used to be, no where near it. There are still several good emcees and groups around but not like it used to be. No where near what it used to be.
I'd relate that to everyone copying off each other, out of material which isn't even that special anyway.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

When it comes to LYRICAL ability? Hell f'n yeah. Half those guys you mentioned were more noted for their subject material and flow rather than their actual words. Which leads to..


Those guys you mentioned stood out against the rest because they had that extra something. Imo, Lupe has that in spades, ESPECIALLY when compared to 99% of other rappers, mainstream or underground. I'm sorry, but if you're not impressed by Lupe, you're either skimming through it, or it flew past by your head.


I'd relate that to everyone copying off each other, out of material which isn't even that special anyway.

I can admit that might be a possibility, then again maybe my idea and your idea of what is lyrical differ. Like I said, I'm not knocking the kid, I do like him, very much in fact. Lyrically though I am not that impressed with him and still hold everyone I mentioned far above Lupe, in terms of both lyrical content, flow, delivery and their style.

As far as the underground goes I'm not sure who you listen to and there are SO many underground emcees and groups that it's hard to pick many of them out. But I've heard some ridiculous emcees that are some spit some of the best raps I have ever heard.

As for Lupe, I do admit that I probably skimmed over it, so I will give it a deeper listen next time around.

Oh I forgot to mention KRS-ONE.

[Crooklyn]

I can admit that might be a possibility, then again maybe my idea and your idea of what is lyrical differ. Like I said, I'm not knocking the kid, I do like him, very much in fact. Lyrically though I am not that impressed with him and still hold everyone I mentioned far above Lupe, in terms of both lyrical content, flow, delivery and their style.

As far as the underground goes I'm not sure who you listen to and there are SO many underground emcees and groups that it's hard to pick many of them out. But I've heard some ridiculous emcees that are some spit some of the best raps I have ever heard.

As for Lupe, I do admit that I probably skimmed over it, so I will give it a deeper listen next time around.
Don't take this as a diss or anything, but maybe it'd help if you read the lyrics online as you listen to the songs. I'ma admit, I did that with a few of his because he says A LOT of things that'll make you rewind, to make sure you heard it right.

Hurt Me Soul
The Instrumental
The Cool

...**** on anyone's album right now. 3 concept songs, all lyrically above anyone, AND on a debut cd. This kid has so much f'n potential it's not even funny.

[Cmill216]

All Lupe needs is the production to match his lyrical gravitas. Two of the best songs on Food & Liquor (Instrumental and Cool) were done by producers outside the 1st and 15th Production unit.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Don't take this as a diss or anything, but maybe it'd help if you read the lyrics online as you listen to the songs. I'ma admit, I did that with a few of his because he says A LOT of things that'll make you rewind, to make sure you heard it right.

Hurt Me Soul
The Instrumental
The Cool

...**** on anyone's album right now. 3 concept songs, all lyrically above anyone, AND on a debut cd. This kid has so much f'n potential it's not even funny.

I think I just need to listen to the album more in depth. If I still don't get it I will read his lyrics online. I have to admit I only listen to the album once so more than likely that is a possibility.

Like I said too though, maybe our tastes just differs.

[Crooklyn]

All Lupe needs is the production to match his lyrical gravitas. Two of the best songs on Food & Liquor (Instrumental and Cool) were done by producers outside the 1st and 15th Production unit.
I'd pray for a better marketing rep behind him if anything. Why in the world they released "I Gotcha" as a single boggles me to this day. There are far better mainstream singles (Daydream shoulda been released here) that also have some depth to them.

[Cmill216]

I'd pray for a better marketing rep behind him if anything. Why in the world they released "I Gotcha" as a single boggles me to this day. There are far better mainstream singles (Daydream shoulda been released here) that also have some depth to them.

**** that. They should've released "American Terrorist". :woot:

But on the real: I'd love to see Lupe release an acapella version of Food & Liquor and have some Grey Album-esque remix done to it.

[Crooklyn]

**** that. They should've released "American Terrorist". :woot:
Come to think of it, most of the songs on the album could've been put out as a single. Let's face it, the only thing mainstream checks for is the hook. If it's catchy, you've sold 'em. Imo most of Lupe's songs on F&L are definitely something you can chant to.

"I Gotcha" though. Goddamn what a travesty. This was the third song I heard of Lupe, and it almost made me bury the dude because I hated it that much. I dodged a huge bullet. :wow:

But on the real: I'd love to see Lupe release an acapella version of Food & Liquor and have some Grey Album-esque remix done to it.
As long as it fits the songs, I'd be cool with that. I've been hearing too many remixes that were just added on with no real composition added to make the beat and words sync.

[Cmill216]

As long as it fits the songs, I'd be cool with that. I've been hearing too many remixes that were just added on with no real composition added to make the beat and words sync.

IMO, DM's versions of "What More Can I Say" and "Moment of Clarity" were superior to the originals.

ESPECIALLY the latter.

[Crooklyn]

Speaking of which, do you happen to have a good rip of that album? I seem to have lost it when I did my reboot. :o

[Cmill216]

Speaking of which, do you happen to have a good rip of that album? I seem to have lost it when I did my reboot. :o

Grey? Give me a minute.

[Warhammer]

Ok, so we can all agree that Diddy can't and never could rap worth shyit, but some of his singles from Press Play have some nice beats.
As for Lupe, we can all definitely agree that he is one of the best out there today. Why anyone can't see that is beyond me...

[Cmill216]

I wouldn't give Press Play five seconds of my time, so I wouldn't know.

[Cmill216]

For all you Lupe fans, I got a treat for you later tonight that I've been working on.

Nothing overly special, but I think you'll at the very least enjoy it. :up:

[Cmill216]

-----> Sessions With Fiasco (http://www.zshare.net/download/sessions-with-fiasco-zip.html) <-----

Essentially, this is Lupe Unplugged. Sorta. :woot:

I took the Sessions@AOL videos Lupe did, extracted the audio, mixed them just a tad bit, and put them together as a short live album by the nicest young emcee in the game. The arrangments are really well done (especially that of "The Instrumental").

So let me know what ya'll think. The tracks...

1.) "Daydreamin' (Live)" - 3:49
2.) "I Gotcha (Live)" - 3:41
3.) "The Instrumental (Live)" - 2:56
4.) "Sunshine (Live)" - 3:38
5.) "Kick, Push (Live)" - 4:01

[nosebleed.]

thanks cmill, i'll shek it out.

for those who like 90s hip hop, karl kani and early Jay-z http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79ARf9X6IoM

[Crooklyn]

Damn Hov ripped that song to shreds. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Shocked/011.gif

Speakin' of old Jay-Z, here's a sick freestyle he did with Big L:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYfKMIdoJL0

[nosebleed.]

DAMN LAG...:cmad:

I was trying to say that I miss Big L and I remember that freestyle.

[chamber-music]

All Lupe needs is the production to match his lyrical gravitas. Two of the best songs on Food & Liquor (Instrumental and Cool) were done by producers outside the 1st and 15th Production unit.

I totally agree with you. Pharrell Williams I' Gotcha was stale, seemed like he left the best beats of 2006 for Clipse. More hot beats from big produces like Timberland, Dr Dre, Mark Ronson, Kanye West, Neptunes and so on and Lupe will be on top.

[RskimB]

All Lupe needs is the production to match his lyrical gravitas. Two of the best songs on Food & Liquor (Instrumental and Cool) were done by producers outside the 1st and 15th Production unit.

I'm one of the few that love the 1st and 15th sound, the Mike Shinoda track was :dry: IMO, but Real, Sunshine, Kick Push were some of my favorite produced songs. I cant wait to hear more from Prolyfic and Soundtrakk.

[nosebleed.]

mike shinoda = :dry:

[nosebleed.]

Thug related style attract millions
Fans, they understand my plan
Who's the kid up in the green Land?

[Neptune]

I totally agree with you. Pharrell Williams I' Gotcha was stale, seemed like he left the best beats of 2006 for Clipse. More hot beats from big produces like Timberland, Dr Dre, Mark Ronson, Kanye West, Neptunes and so on and Lupe will be on top.

I like the I gotcha beat. It has this kinda jolly vibe. Almost all the beats on food and liqour are dope. Is it safe to say that Kick Push is a classic?

[chamber-music]

Guns dont kill people rappers do,
Ask any politican and they'll tell you its true,
Its a fact music makes you violent,
Like Michael Jackson telling little Timmy to be silent,
You don't believe me? Heres my hype,
Offer me the record and i'll show you the type,
Of criminal this rap games is breedin,
Its a fact that MC Hammer left me bleedin,

Guns don't kill people rappers do
Sound of the police
Woo Woo Woo

Guns don't kill people rappers do,
I seen it in a documentary on BBC2,
Shot to death outside Hyper Value,
Guns blazin like Michael Caine in Zulu,
Gun-crime statistics are sometimes misleading,
The type of criminal that rap is breedin,
Shot in the chest? No wonder you stopped breathin,
2 for the base over, are you receivin?
Remember rap tracks in '87
Scott the Rock's up ni Hip-Hop heaven,
Biggie and Tupac R.I.P,
Even Jam Master Jays in the cemetary.

Guns don't kill people rappers do
Sound of the police
Woo Woo Woo

Guns don't kill people rappers do,
I'm a bloody rapper and I might kill you,
As a rapper I'm teachin you a lesson,
AK47 to Smith-and-Wesson
Just say no, just like Zammo
Bullet proof vest, to guns and ammo,
Hip-hop gangster trippin,
Even Eminems into pistol whippin,
Its like cluedo murder one,
P-Diddy, J'lo in a nightclub with a gun,
Heard snoop dog now wants to bust a cap,
Guns dont kill people its just rap

[Cmill216]

- I finally picked up Big L's Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous (shame on me). But damn it's lyrically :wow:. The good ones die way too young.

- Picked up Lupe's "It Was Written". Way too much stereotypical mixtape noise, but some sick tracks on it as usual ("What It Do" is pretty friggin' hysterical).

- And Kanye's Fall Out Boy "Arms Race" remix? :dry:

[Incrediblejeff]

I totally agree with you. Pharrell Williams I' Gotcha was stale, seemed like he left the best beats of 2006 for Clipse. More hot beats from big produces like Timberland, Dr Dre, Mark Ronson, Kanye West, Neptunes and so on and Lupe will be on top.

I would say his best beats of 2006 went to himself on In my mind.

[Cmill216]

I would say his best beats of 2006 went to himself on In my mind.

HEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO. :p

[Incrediblejeff]

HEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO. :p

I think I'm the only person who liked In My Mind.:woot: LOL.

[Cmill216]

His "Hell Hath No Fury" beats were classicly dark Neptunes at its best.

"In My Mind" was just a complete and utter mess.

Any who, anybody familiar with MTV2 probably knows this chick Amanda Diva who does interviews and whatnot. Came across some of her personal tracks and freestyle stuff and it's not bad; definitely has that spoken word vibe going on.

http://media.putfile.com/Amanda-Diva--40-Emcees-

[Incrediblejeff]

I really like Amanda Diva.She was nice on Def Poetry.I also remember her back when she was on "My Brother & Me" when she was younger.

[chamber-music]

I would say his best beats of 2006 went to himself on In my mind.

The album was OK. But by Pharrells usual standards it wasn't that good. But I guess that only shows how high he has set the bar. The beats on Hell Hath No Fury where some of the best Neptunes had done in years and shows how innovative they can be when they want to.

[Neptune]

His "Hell Hath No Fury" beats were classicly dark Neptunes at its best.

"In My Mind" was just a complete and utter mess.

Any who, anybody familiar with MTV2 probably knows this chick Amanda Diva who does interviews and whatnot. Came across some of her personal tracks and freestyle stuff and it's not bad; definitely has that spoken word vibe going on.

http://media.putfile.com/Amanda-Diva--40-Emcees-

Couldn't agree with you more. Look at my sig :woot:

[Neptune]

I love Hell Hath No Fury. The beats are minamilistic and yet futuristic. And damn Pusha stept his game up. He is easily one of my favorite mc's at the moment. What's weird is that on Lord Willin i liked Malice more.
ECGHK!

[Cmill216]

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3341/b000na26ze01ss500sclzzzza7.jpg

My Grade: C+

My Take: Over the last few years, Timbaland has reinvented the pop music scene, delivering some of the finest production efforts of the decade with the likes of Mr. SexyBack himself Justin Timberlake and with former folk/pop sensation Nelly Furtado.

Dude's been on top of the world as of late, so I went into this album expecting a lot. On the production side of things (which is really what this entire album was built upon), it's pretty much a 17 track exhibit of Tim doing his Tim thing: creating ridiculously arresting soundscapes incorporating just about every genre of music one can think of. Unlike his fellow super producer Pharrell, Timbo didn't get lazy with his beats on his own solo project.

What's ironic, however, is that it's the guests Tim enlists that inevitably bring this album down. Some of Tim's more hip hop oriented tracks like "Kill Yourself" are literally killed by some of the most uninteresting and downright piss-poor emceeing I've heard in a longtime. The production is outstanding on some of those tracks, and yet cats come in on their verses and do absolutely nothing with it, creating some of the most frustrating listening experiences in recent memory.

The more interesting (and successful) guest appearances come from the non-hip hop cameos by She Wants Revenge on "Time" and the aforementioned Furtado and Timberlake on the single "Give It To Me". The Fall Out Boy track "One & Only" ain't half bad either, but it's pretty much just a Fall Out Boy track with signature Tim sounds at the very beginning and end.

This isn't a completely terrible record. It's just one that could have benefitted from guests who can actually capitalize on the gifts from god (i.e. Tim's production) given to them.

Check Out:
1.) "Time" feat. She Wants Revenge
2.) "Give It To Me" feat. Nelly Furtado and Justin Timberlake
3.) "Two Man Show" feat. Elton John
4.) "Fantasy" feat. Money

[nosebleed.]

great review...I probably will buy those tracks you mentioned. I won't buy the whole album. The stand out example of and album with incredibly bangin beats with INCREDIBLY piss poor lyrics was Cappadonna's "Pillage"...Dipset's follow with a close 2nd.

[Colossal Spoons]

I expected more from Timbo :(

[chamber-music]

Yeah Timberlands album was so weak. The raps where comical. It was like how many times could he say what cars he drives and how much money he makes. He should stick to being a producer the guy is no kanye. His more in P.Diddy's league of rapping.

[RockSP]

I can't see why anyone would be surprised by Tim's lack of skill. This isn't his first album. He's always been a joke (as an artist).

[RskimB]

I need to listen to the new Redman and J Dilla's Ruff Draft, been lazy about that.

[nosebleed.]

Anybody know WTH happened to the Fugees reunion?

[Cmill216]

I haven't heard anything since the reported leaked track or two back in '06.

[gkokujin]

I hate rap music today.

Tribe reunited and did a tour back in 02..havent heard from thems since :(


I like tru skool hip hop.

Jurassic 5 and Ugly Duckling are my favorite artists out now.
I can dig Kanye a lil bit.
and i can't stomach Jay-Z

[RskimB]

I hate rap music today.

Tribe reunited and did a tour back in 02..havent heard from thems since :(


I like tru skool hip hop.

Jurassic 5 and Ugly Duckling are my favorite artists out now.
I can dig Kanye a lil bit.
and i can't stomach Jay-Z
J5 is going to break up after their Australian tour ends

[gkokujin]

J5 is going to break up after their Australian tour ends


turn the knife to the left, my heart is still beating.:csad:

[Blackmouf2002]

Ya Ima rap fan.

[nosebleed.]

lol...since this thread has sort of turned into a hip hop discussion thing...mebbe someone should get the title changed.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I hate rap music today.

Tribe reunited and did a tour back in 02..havent heard from thems since :(


I like tru skool hip hop.

Jurassic 5 and Ugly Duckling are my favorite artists out now.
I can dig Kanye a lil bit.
and i can't stomach Jay-Z

Well Tribe is still touring together, they recently toured this past summer 06, and showed up over the country, not a lot of shows but more than a handful. The closest to me was Washington and L.A.

Hating rap music is a tough thing to say. I used to share the same mindset with you but having a few debates as well as discussions here with other hypsters not of the exact same mindset as myself helped me become more open minded to things.

1) If you hate rap music today that means you hate all rap. Why? Because without people like Nelly, Chingy, T.I., Diplomates, Benzino etc. There would be no way to judge emcees like Rakim, KRS-ONE, ATCQ, De La Soul, Outkast, Big Daddy Kane, Schooly D, Special Ed, Wu-Tang and other groups that many consider to be "true" or "real" hip-hop.

2) Rap is rap, regardless, any type of rap is still rap no matter how you want to classify it. Old school, True school, real, fake, pop, ganster, crunk, hyphy, east, west or whatever. Rap is an element of Hip-Hop and you love it or you hate it. Anyone can do it and feel it, that is the beauty of it.

3) Rap is like similar to food, at least this is how I like to think of it. Some of it is good for you, food for thought (excuse the pun). Rap that is good for me and my mind and soul is..Common Sense, ATCQ, Outkast, Pharcyde, KRS-ONE, Biggie, The Roots, J5, Blackalicious, Atmosphere, Edan...etc. Then there is rap that I don't really care for but like the beats to just bob my head to, or dance to at a club, food that may feel good but isn't necessarily good for me, sort of like junk food.

I totally understand what you are saying and agree with you and what you are saying. But at the same time, the diversity is what allows you to pick out the Ecmees/Groups that stand above the rest and makes them unique and special. Otherwise it would all be the same and very boring. IMHO.

But sadly, it will never go back to the way it used to be.

If you really hate "Rap" today, im me and I can send you a huge list of emcees to check out that you may or may not know about that I am pretty sure you would like. And yes, they are very prevalent today.

[aptget]

http://www.poetlaureateinfinity.com/
http://www.poetlaureateinfinity.com/
http://www.poetlaureateinfinity.com/
http://www.poetlaureateinfinity.com/
THE ILLEST **** IVE EVER HEARD
1000 BARS
YOU CAN MIX THE TRACK AND HAVE THE BARS OVERLAP AND THEY ALL RHYME
THERE ARE 5 VOCAL LEVELS EACH WITH 200 BARS
11 minutes each
MIXING IT CREATES ESSENTIALLY AN INFINITE RHYME
"THE GREATEST RHYME OF ALL TIME"

[Mephistopheles]

I found this funny.


HOW TO BE A BACKPACKER

By an Asian kid in the suburbs.

So you wake up one day and realize your taste in music sucks. And obviously, that means you suck as well. You're tired, frustrated, hopelessly unhip, and you're very sick of your Winamp playlist. But wait...... before you pull that trigger, consider this.

You need hip hop and you need it fast.

For your sake, I've set up a "How to be a backpacker" kit that's so easy, virtually anybody can do it. Don't worry. You'll be in touch with the little b-boy inside of you in no time. After this kit, you'll be keeping it so real that only other backpackers will understand a word you spit. So what are we waiting for? Let's begin.

A good backpacker is neck deep in underground hip hop records. Here's some to get you started:

Aceyalone - Accepted Eclectic

Mystik Journeymen - Black Sands ov Eternia

Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein

Anticon - Music for the Advancement of Hip Hop

Quasimoto - The Unseen

Atmosphere - Overcast

7l & Esoteric - The Soul Purpose

Start with these. Then supplement with some Aesop Rock, Buck 65, Solesides, Mr. Lif, and perhaps even a little Planet Asia. Throw in some a Kool Keith record for good measure and you're set.

Frat boys are starting to claim they're about the "real" hip hop. Show them who's boss by flaunting your superior tastes while STILL listening to all of their ****. Here's some of their favorites:

Jurassic 5 - Quality Control

Deltron 3030 (anything by Del)

The Roots - Things Fall Apart

Mos Def - Black on Both Sides

Common - Like Water for Chocolate

Dilated Peoples - The Platform LP

Reflection Eternal - Train of Thought

Method Man / Redman - Blackout

Bonus Credit: Try obtaining some tapes of local artists nobody knows about. This will be your secret weapon.

So now you've got your base. But you still look like a little new-jack. Pick up some certified hip hop classics to boost your credibility. People will think you've been in the game for years. Backpacker approved classics:

Nas - Illmatic

Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus

Wu Tang Clan - Enter the 36 Chambers

De la Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising

A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory

Pete Rock / CL Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother

Jeru tha Damaja - The Sun Rises in the East

Freestyle Fellowship - To Whom it May Concern

Gang Starr - Daily Operation

Feeling brave? If you're ambitious, you can take things even further. Convince 'em you were there in the beginning with these:

BDP - Criminal Minded

Public Enemy - It'll Take a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back

NWA - Straight Outta Compton

Ultramagnetic MCs - Critical Beatdown

Run DMC - Raising Hell

Erik B. & Rakim - Paid in Full

Bonus Credit: Tell people you're from the Bronx. Tell them about Kool Herc, Bambataa, and Flash. You were there. Make them believe it.

(Know your elements)

There are a few more things you must learn before you blossom into a backpacker. Without delay, here you have it:

- If anybody asks, your favorite producers are Primo, Pete Rock, Automator, Prince Paul, and the RZA (but emphasize that you only like pre-Wu-tang-Forever RZA).

- You must learn to speak like a backpacker. Pepper your language with "knowmsayin" and refer to as many things as possible as "****". You'll have to be patient. Try recording your voice and comparing it to some Busta Rhymes skits. Practice makes perfect.

- Wear T-shirts, hooded sweatshirts, baggy jeans (not too baggy. you do not want to crossover into raver pants territory), and lots of hats and visors. Walk with a slight limp and never smile.

- Have diversity on your side. Backpackers get eclectic with Portishead, Esthero, Radiohead, DJ Shadow, and Amon Tobin. You can say your girl/boyfriend got you into it.

- You must like at least one Jay-Z album. It is a backpacker's obligation. This will save your ass when people claim you are an elitist snob.

- Smoke lots of weed.

So there you have it. It's really much easier than it sounds. If it helps, try setting a few hours aside each day to practice hip hop. Refer to UndergroundHipHop.com and read Ego Trip's Book of Rap Lists. Go to shows, write some lyrics, learn to beatbox, get some 1200s. Learn about the elements and assimilate yourself into them. Quiz your friends and laugh at their ignorance. Confidence won't be so slippery much longer. Remember... hip hop is a way of life, and now you've got the shortcuts.

If you need further assistance... try to Discover Hip hop.

Ok! You're welcome.

Good luck everybody!

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I found this funny.

LOL. Hilarious! :up:

[RskimB]

I found this funny.

awesome :woot:

Slightly reminds me of this:

50 Signs That You May Be An Underground Hip Hop Fan (A Self Parody)
50. You have several instrumental versions of albums that sold less than 50,000 copies.

49. You dont lend out your CDs because youre not definite you can get another copy of that album again if you lose it.

48. You keep checking back on Def Jams website to see if there is ANY information on Nas, Redman or Joe Buddens new album up there anywhere.

47. When asked what producers are killin the game right now some of the first names out of your mouth are Ayatollah, Nicolay and Oh No.

46. You still get mad when you read that another one of your favorite DJs has switched to Serato.

45. If youd ever had a discussion about any of the artist/groups on Rhymesayers Entertainment that DIDNT startt with Who the **** are...

44. If Hollywood Divorce was the song that finally convinced you that maybe Lil Wayne is actually nice on the mic.

43. If it took your friend to force you to listen to T.I.s verse on Cannon to convince you of the same about T.I.

42. You say **** like Im sick of all of this ignorant, shoot em up, thugged out, smoked out, coked up, misogynistic ass gangsta ****!...meanwhile, you have every single Mobb Deep, M.O.P., Cage, Beatnuts, R.A. The Rugged Man, Screwball, Non Phixion, Necro, Tame One, and Kool G Rap album ever made.

41. If people around you start dissing the South, and the groups you use as examples to defend Southern hip hop are Cunninglynguists and pretty much the entire roster of the Justus League.

40. All of your favorite 50 Cent songs were on the first 3 G Unit mixtapes and/or you know all of Madlib and MF Dooms aliases.

39. You can make a list of rappers/groups from Cincinnatti off the top of your head.

38. When you first started seeing pictures of Scott Storch often in magazine interviews you slowly began to like him less and less...now you just think hes a complete *******.

37. You think J Records didnt do nearly enough to promote Rhymefests album.

36. You actually recognize the music they use during the Adult Swim breaks on Cartoon Network

35. Your favorite magazines are Mass Appeal, Insomniac, The Ave, Elemental and Wax Poetics.

34. You own compilation CDs arranged/mixed by Bobbito Garcia, DJ Spinna, Madlib, Rich Medina or Questlove? from The Roots.

33. You think the best Gangsta Grillz mixtape ever was Little Brothers Separate But Equal...but to be fair, its the only one you ever actually listened to......

32. Youre actually pissed off at RJD2 for abandoning hip hop....and youre mad at yourself for even owning albums by a dude named RJD2 in the first place.

31. Approximately 10% or more of the songs in your iPod were produced by J Dilla.

30. Anytime an article is published about Slept on classic hip hop albums you immeadiately read it to find out how many of them you own or have at least heard of.

29. Your Top 5 MCs right now list consists of Ras Kass, Lupe Fiasco, Elzhi, Royce the 59 and Vakill .

28. You actually enjoy listening to and own CDs consisting of nothing but compositions made by tuntablists (some people call them scratch DJs).

27. When you wear T shirts of your favorite groups you attract a lot of attention...mainly from people asking you who the hell they are .

26. You actually have heard or own your own copy of Jins The Emcees Progergandaor think that if Serious Jones didnt start with the asian jokes that Jin couldve probably roasted him....and I stress the importance of the words couldve and probably in that sentence.

25. Youre rooting for Lupe Fiasco to do big numbers....just not TOO BIG...just big enough to be ..1 or ..2 for his opening week.

24. For some odd reason you have a newfound respect for Christina Aguilera....

23. Your two major sources for music videos are YouTube and VH1 Soul.

22. If youve uttered a variation of this sentence recently Game dont want it with Ras Kass!

21. You actually know what the new Ghostface/MF Doom album is going to be called and WHEN its coming out.

20. Your version of Lupe Fiascos Food & Liquor has 20 songs on it and half of them have the wrong names.

19. You can answer the online question Whatever happened to Crustified Dibbs? with detail and provide links to recent pictures of him.

18. Babygrande, BBE, Nature Sounds, Stones Throw, Think Differently, Shaman Work and Duck Down are all among your favorite hip hop labels.

17. If you believe that the best female emcee in the game is Jean Grae, hands down.

16. You dont regard signing with Koch as being an industry death sentence and you cant believe how many folks have slept on Fat Jons beats for this long.

15. You have a MySpace, Soundclick, Bandspace and Kind Industries page but NO official website.

14. You actually know the difference between the Demigodz, Weathermen and Army Of The Pharoahs.

13. Youre hoping Mos Def and Talib Kweli return to their old selves on their new albums.

12. Youre anticipating Raekwons Only Built For Cuban Linx 2 more than Dr. Dres Detox even though neither has a release date.

11. The only major label debuts youre really looking forward to in the near future are Saigon and Papooses.

10. You own more Hiieroglyphics crew projects than you can count off the top of your head.

9. You knew who A Trak was WAY BEFORE he became Kanye Wests DJ.

8. You have NO PROBLEM with an all male rap group naming themselves after a woman.

7. You maintain that Stoupe, The Enemy Of Mankind is like A Tribe Called Quest or A Pimp Named Slickback, you gotta say the WHOLE THING.

6. You think its irreprehensible when Snoop Dogg keeps calling women *****es and hoes in his songs, but when Slum Village do it, for some reason it just doesnt bother you as much.....

5. Y ou cant wait for the new AZ, Hi Tek and Cormega albums to drop.

4. You are convinced that if Method Man had made a video for Say, Fall Out or Presidential MC his album wouldve sold better.

3. You believe that Jay-Z and Nas albums coming out coming out one week after the other on Def Jam could help bring hip hop back.

2. You concur that Byron Crawford (Bol) is indeed a ****** ass *****.

1. The term backpacker pisses you off so much that you write a long ass blog about why its a divisive term and tie it in to some wild conspiracy theory involving the government, corporations, media outlets and record labels removing all of the consciousness, creativity and balance from mainstream rap music.

[Cmill216]

49. You dont lend out your CDs because youre not definite you can get another copy of that album again if you lose it.

27. When you wear T shirts of your favorite groups you attract a lot of attention...mainly from people asking you who the hell they are .

26. You actually have heard or own your own copy of Jins The Emcees Progergandaor think that if Serious Jones didnt start with the asian jokes that Jin couldve probably roasted him....and I stress the importance of the words couldve and probably in that sentence.

23. Your two major sources for music videos are YouTube and VH1 Soul.

20. Your version of Lupe Fiascos Food & Liquor has 20 songs on it and half of them have the wrong names.

15. You have a MySpace, Soundclick, Bandspace and Kind Industries page but NO official website.

8. You have NO PROBLEM with an all male rap group naming themselves after a woman.

:D :up:

[nosebleed.]

LOL @

38. When you first started seeing pictures of Scott Storch often in magazine interviews you slowly began to like him less and less...now you just think hes a complete *******.

Yeah, I didn't like his stuff to begin with.

28. You actually enjoy listening to and own CDs consisting of nothing but compositions made by tuntablists (some people call them scratch DJs).

I do this...:csad: but I am a turntablist...sooo its okay.


13. Youre hoping Mos Def and Talib Kweli return to their old selves on their new albums.

I do :csad:

10. You own more Hiieroglyphics crew projects than you can count off the top of your head.


Seen them live 5 times...copped mixtapes each time...have countless 12" on wax.


9. You knew who A Trak was WAY BEFORE he became Kanye Wests DJ.

Yup...he won the DMC worlds in 97 :up:

[Cmill216]

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2530/kennstarralbumcoverqh1.jpg

So I picked up this cat Kenn Starr's album over the weekend. I never heard of the dude until I was going through iTunes' hip hop section. I'll give it a review maybe later in the week or so. It's not bad. Dude's got a crisp flow, and the production has a really slick indie vibe. Didn't completely and utterly set my world on fire, but it's one of those "better than a lot of s*** out there" type of records.

[RskimB]

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2530/kennstarralbumcoverqh1.jpg

So I picked up this cat Kenn Starr's album over the weekend. I never heard of the dude until I was going through iTunes' hip hop section. I'll give it a review maybe later in the week or so. It's not bad. Dude's got a crisp flow, and the production has a really slick indie vibe. Didn't completely and utterly set my world on fire, but it's one of those "better than a lot of s*** out there" type of records.

Yea he isnt too bad, definitely not mind blowing either really he justs fits into the typical undergrund mc mold. Good production and the fact that he's a DC Metro area rapper doesnt hurt either.

[RskimB]

What "up and coming" rappers and producers are you guys listening to? I've been up on Drake, Danny!, Pacific Division, The Cool Kids, Johnson & Johnson, and a few others.

[MARVELous M]

Ice Cube and DMX are the rappers I listen to

[dr venture]

http://neonmusic.pararadio.hu/nuke/catalog/images/RR0068CDweb.jpg

This is a must buy download whatever. If you don't have it you should get it.

[Fanticon]

http://neonmusic.pararadio.hu/nuke/catalog/images/RR0068CDweb.jpg

This is a must buy download whatever. If you don't have it you should get it.
Yesss! Very good album...and the phone call skit to Will Smith's office had me laughing my ass off.

Anyone get this yet? He's not black...he's not white...he's albino! This is considered his best album so far...its really personal stuff, theres a great article on him in the last issue of Rolling Stones...you might know him from Rhymesayers fame...and appearances with Atmosphere...seriously, this is hip hop...and again...rap is something you do...like in rock, playing the guitar is something you do...it doesn't define the genre...that said, just give it a try...and please...don't listen to the media, or MTV, and the major radio stations out there that claim someone like Mims is hip hop...its not...he's a rapper and more specifically its just horrible money making pop music. If you want something meaningful and something that gives you hope that somewhere out there hip hop isn't dead as Nas claims...then check this guy out.
http://www.accesshiphop.com/images/covers/9056_b.jpg

[chamber-music]

Its all about PLASTIC LITTLE
http://www.quietandloud.com/u/Plastic-Little-press-shot.jpg

[Fanticon]

"I ROCK FOIL!"
Haha...I love Plastic Little!

[chamber-music]

You guys should check out EXAMPLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbEOUt06jG0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OuNWcYtvbE

[terry78]

Whoever uses the term "I hate rap" may as well say, "I hate food". There are that many different variations on the genre. Backpacking, hardcore, crunk, dirty south, east coast, west coast, rap-metal, hip-pop, trip-hop, etc.

[Fanticon]

backpack rap isn't really a style of rap...its someone who is a fan of like...strictly underground hip hop or other underground rappers. Its almost more like, the snobby movement of kids who think that underground hip hop is the only "real" hip hop. There are backpack rappers, and they are described as self promoting, traveling, connection making, do it yourself, independent artists...but its not a form of rap. It would be like calling someone who skateboards and happens to be an mc...a skate-rapper.

[RskimB]

Damn this thread died. Anyone check out the new Dizzee Rascal album that leaked?

[The Storm]

Observer Music Monthly rates it as the best British Hip Hop album. I think I'll check it out, I got Akala's album was pretty decent. I love Dizzee's style though and the video for Sirens is top notch!

[ampersand]

Are there any Blue Scholars fans in here? Their first self titled album is amazing and their new disc gets was just released and hits stores in a few weeks I think. Definitely worth checking out :up:

[WTFimVENOM]

J5 is going to break up after their Australian tour ends
Dam, I didn't know this. That really sucks :csad:

[RskimB]

Observer Music Monthly rates it as the best British Hip Hop album. I think I'll check it out, I got Akala's album was pretty decent. I love Dizzee's style though and the video for Sirens is top notch!

I thought it was pretty good, my initial response to it is that its better than Showtime. Most of the album is strong but the middle tracks(6-9) bore me a lil.

[chamber-music]

I heard the Dizzee track with Lilly Allen and sirens. Seen Dizzee live a couple of times and he is always one of the best live MCs around.

[Incrediblejeff]

Anybody here like Sa-Ra?I just brought there album 2 days ago.Good stuff.

[Fanticon]

If you liked Sa-Ra check out Lifesavaz new album Gutterfly, I found them to be similar and easily accessible to even a more mainstream crowd...like, before Black Eyed Peas became sell-outs.

[chamber-music]

I remmember seing Sa-Ra support Kanye back in febuary 06. I really like Hollywood.

[RskimB]

Anybody here like Sa-Ra?I just brought there album 2 days ago.Good stuff.

I listened to the album but I hated it.

[fangrl06]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOZaFJK2RGY

[Crook]

Anime....to the....sound of Pac? :huh:

[GoldenAgeHero]

awesome vid

[fangrl06]

Anime....to the....sound of Pac? :huh:
Ignore the Anime...it was really hard to find this song, so I had to settle for this vid.

awesome vid
:cwink: :up:

[kal-el1990]

Anyone like Foreign Beggars?

[Cmill216]

Okay, don't know if some of you have heard this yet, but apparently Kanye, Pharrell, and Lupe are releasing a collaborative album together under the name Child Rebel Soldier.

There's a song currently floating around, Us Placers (http://www.nobodysmiling.com/hiphop/promotional_audio/87627.php), featuring a Thom Yorke sample and verses by all three. Keep your eyes out for this, folks. Could be BIG.

[nosebleed.]

Kanye? maaan...*groan*

[dr venture]

I like that song a lot. Hopefull the whole CD is good

[terry78]

Right now what I gots in my box

- Madlib (Madvillainy)
- Canibus (For Whom the Beat Tolls)
- Hell Razah (Renaissance Child)

[nosebleed.]

Hmm...in mine

Common - Like water for chocolate

[chamber-music]

Hey any one liking pharoahe monch latest album. I think its great. Good to have the guy back after all that record label trouble.

[Fanticon]

Right now what I gots in my box

- Madlib (Madvillainy)
- Canibus (For Whom the Beat Tolls)
- Hell Razah (Renaissance Child)

you should really credit MF Doom and Madlib when referring to Madvillainy.

[Fanticon]

btw F**k Kanye, Pharell and Lupe for using that Thom yorke sample...I listened to an original sample he used for a John Legend song...it was completely copied...why not just call it a newly recorded version of the original...kinda like when Puffy took the whole entire Sting/Police song for the tribute to Biggie in I'll be Missing You...no originality...just paid a lot of money to steal an entire song and use it to sell it to a generation that probably has no knowledge of the original.

[Fanticon]

Hey any one liking pharoahe monch latest album. I think its great. Good to have the guy back after all that record label trouble.

it started off with a bang and ended with whimper...the last 4 tracks all had R&B...Erikah Badu I can tolerate...but the rest of the last...was garbage.

Currently...I have been listening to the Jaylib (Madlib and J-dilla) re release of Champion Sound. RIP Dilla.

Also on heavy rotation...Chrome Children 2 was just given a real release (I missed it when it was a free download)

[AhabTheArab]

popped in the tribe called quest anthology.

[DX]

I'm a rap fan.

My dad always critisizes it though.

[Untilteld]

I only like one rap song

Make it Hot - JDiggz

[RockSP]

Hey any one liking pharoahe monch latest album. I think its great. Good to have the guy back after all that record label trouble.

He's finally black!!!!!! The Terrordome remake was unexpected. Trilogy is the *****. I still hold out hope for an Organized Konfusion reunion...

[ServantofAllah]

listening to You know What it is Vol 4 BlackWallstreet, its pretty good.

[RockSP]

Okay, don't know if some of you have heard this yet, but apparently Kanye, Pharrell, and Lupe are releasing a collaborative album together under the name Child Rebel Soldier.

There's a song currently floating around, Us Placers (http://www.nobodysmiling.com/hiphop/promotional_audio/87627.php), featuring a Thom Yorke sample and verses by all three. Keep your eyes out for this, folks. Could be BIG.

Lupe will s#!t on them constantly. Especially Pharrell's non-singin, non-rapping ass. Now if he and 'Ye just stick to production (which I know they won't) on this possible project then that will be a good thing.

[ServantofAllah]

Pharrell's production has been lacking lately too.

[AhabTheArab]

when you gonna learn? rap died mid 90's

[Incrediblejeff]

I need some reccomendations.The last album I brought was Sa-Ra,and that was like in May.

[RockSP]

I need some reccomendations.The last album I brought was Sa-Ra,and that was like in May.

Pharoahe Monch "Desire"

The Roots "Game Theory" (it's not new but it is their latest album)

[Cmill216]

Pharrell's production has been lacking lately too.

Hell Hath No Fury

[Cmill216]

I've been pretty much looping Stankonia and Illmatic at work.

[dr venture]

Some good CD's right there

[Incrediblejeff]

Pharoahe Monch "Desire"

The Roots "Game Theory" (it's not new but it is their latest album)

I'll check out Pharoahe.I already have Game Theory.Thanks.

[Colossal Spoons]

Common's "The Game" is pretty damn good :up:

[Fanticon]

I need some reccomendations.The last album I brought was Sa-Ra,and that was like in May.

Lifesavas new album Gutterfly. Or Strange Fruit Project's The Healing.

[AhabTheArab]

edan

el.p

white dudes who know what they are doing....

[The-Dark-Knight]

yes i rap im pretty dang awesome too G

Yo, word up,
word to your motha,
im sitty at mylap top
will my rhyme stop?
i dont fink so
im dreamin thinking of reading
books made of paper listen to my rhyme see ya later
its all good, jus like a jingle dont touch granny,
she got shingles,
itchy,
shes getting kinda hot,
get her naked we'll do what not,
to her
to her booty, i like me some granny they kinda fruity.
stop, hammer time whoaaaaaaaa whoaaaaaaaaaa.

[nosebleed.]

when you gonna learn? rap died mid 90's

Sad...cuz its kinda true. :csad:

[Fanticon]

EL-P's I'll Sleep When You're Dead = One of the best albums of the year

[terry78]

yes i rap im pretty dang awesome too G

Yo, word up,
word to your motha,
im sitty at mylap top
will my rhyme stop?
i dont fink so
im dreamin thinking of reading
books made of paper listen to my rhyme see ya later
its all good, jus like a jingle dont touch granny,
she got shingles,
itchy,
shes getting kinda hot,
get her naked we'll do what not,
to her
to her booty, i like me some granny they kinda fruity.
stop, hammer time whoaaaaaaaa whoaaaaaaaaaa.
Get this man a record deal stat.

[The-Dark-Knight]

it really is only a matter of time.:woot:

[fangrl06]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywlm-LPftOY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAVJVEA12H0

[AhabTheArab]

my name is mca i got a license to kill, if you wanna know what time it is, its time to get ill.


check the rhyme ya'll

[fangrl06]

...and also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLNMBu9V0KM

[TNC9852002]

I like Binary Star!

-TNC

[terry78]

edan

el.p

white dudes who know what they are doing....

Yeah, the only two.

[Mac_Hine]

I used to be really into it and I still produce some hip-hop music now and then but I'm deeply into classic rock right now. Man, that stuff is so much better.

[Incrediblejeff]

Alright I picked up the Pharoahe Monch CD the other day.I like it really it's really nice.

[AhabTheArab]

public enemy - 911 is a joke

love when the hypeman gets his own song... flava flav sounds so funny rapping...

[Blitzz]

Anyone heard this kid Gemini? He's signed to Lupe Fiasco's record label. He was originally a singer, but I think he's pretty good

http://www.myspace.com/fnfgemini

I love Chicago rappers :yay:

[chamber-music]

Anyone heard this kid Gemini? He's signed to Lupe Fiasco's record label. He was originally a singer, but I think he's pretty good

http://www.myspace.com/fnfgemini

I love Chicago rappers :yay:

Chi-Town be running good Hip Hop right now.

[Blitzz]

Chi-Town be running good Hip Hop right now.


yeah, it's going to be a good year for Chicago hip-hop. Kanye, Lupe, and Common are all releasing albums later this year

[dr venture]

Anyone heard this kid Gemini? He's signed to Lupe Fiasco's record label. He was originally a singer, but I think he's pretty good

http://www.myspace.com/fnfgemini

I love Chicago rappers :yay:

I like his song Ben Frank

[nosebleed.]

LF7gRKPos8I

[javon]

:huh: Where was this thread?

I love Lil' Wayne, T.I, Jay-Z, Ludacris, and a few others. I ALWAYS listen to hip hop and R & B. Lately rap is just trying to make money, not trying to deliever a message to anyone :whatever: Which is exactly why I picked the above people who deliever messages in their songs.

And I agree with what someone said on the first page, Mike Jones is garbage.

[RockSP]

:huh: Where was this thread?

I love Lil' Wayne, T.I, Jay-Z, Ludacris, and a few others. I ALWAYS listen to hip hop and R & B. Lately rap is just trying to make money, not trying to deliever a message to anyone :whatever: Which is exactly why I picked the above people who deliever messages in their songs.

And I agree with what someone said on the first page, Mike Jones is garbage.

:huh: :huh:

None of those artists are really about "delivering a message". They might have one or two songs like that but...

[Blitzz]

http://www.myspace.com/laststreetpoet

This guy Eman is a British emcee.
Can only understand half of what he says, but he's also good

[Ender Durden]

Anyone listen to Aesop Rock?

he is probably the best lyricist ive heard, probly even more then Eminem.
He doesnt experiment as much melodicaly and he could use some better samples in his music, but the guy spits ****in razor blades.

[javon]

:huh: :huh:

None of those artists are really about "delivering a message". They might have one or two songs like that but...
Mabe Jay-Z and Lil Wayne, but T.I and Luda always do it, with Luda doing it more that is.

[cookiva]

Common, talib kweli, mos def, NAS....

Theres alot of good rap out there. But then theres alot of bad rap to be honest. I like to sometimes sit down and chill listining to some Kweli...mans a genius.

[javon]

^Theirs A LOT of bad rap these days.

[cookiva]

Which really makes me mad. Living overseas, the only american rap i had when i was a kid was the mainstream rap, and i was always turned off by it. Returning to the states, its more accesible.

[javon]

It's like most of them rap about....nothing. Mike Jones, Slim Thug, Heu, Unk, Young Joc, Bow Bow, etc. TERRIBLE :down:

[cookiva]

whats even worse is that execs push money to them so they make more crappy songs, then new rappers decide thats how they should make money...

Its the worst circle of life ever....

[Blitzz]

You all should watch the 'Confessions of a BET Producer' series.

Here are all the videos

http://my.rawkus.com/profiles/blog/show?id=668223:BlogPost:33273

[RockSP]

Mabe Jay-Z and Lil Wayne, but T.I and Luda always do it, with Luda doing it more that is.

Nope. T.I. and Luda talk about pimping and sex and cars and money. And drug dealing in T. I.'s case. They talk about other things but most of their songs are not about "messages".

[Cmill216]

But Luda does it with a sense of humor and some actual creativity. I got mad love for the dude.

T.I. on the other hand....I just don't see the appeal. He's just not that great of a lyricist. At all.

[Colossal Spoons]

I miss Jay and Luda :(

[Cmill216]

Not a fan of Release Therapy, CS?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Anyone listen to Aesop Rock?

he is probably the best lyricist ive heard, probly even more then Eminem.
He doesnt experiment as much melodicaly and he could use some better samples in his music, but the guy spits ****in razor blades.


Yes, he's dope but there are many, many lyricists out there that are excellent. It all depends on your taste, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick, KRS-ONE, Andre 3000, MOS DEF, BIGGIE, Slug, EYEDEA, Jeru The Damaja, Black Thought, Big Pun (dude was dope, just have to get away from that single), Nas, Juice, Illogic is very nice, Immortal Technique, Mr. Lif, J-Live and my personal favorite Edan, to me he is the best Emcee in the world, the kid is just ridiculous. He makes all his own beats and dj's himself.

[lollycop]

Rap's OK. But its not the best in my opinion.

[CrypticOne]

Chi-Town be running good Hip Hop right now.

I strongly agree on this point. The Chi-Town emcees know what they speak. Has anyone heard of that new group, CRS? Its composed of Lupe Fiasco, Kanye West, and Pharrell. Its a pretty good group. I've never liked Pharell though.

[7alex]

hmm me...

Eminem
DMX
TI
Common

and a few others. I like the music and some of the lyrics are okay.

:hyper:

[nosebleed.]

Common used to be my hero...back in the day when he first started to about the time 'Like Water For Chocolate' came out. But I did not like his last album at all...too much Kanye...not enough Common.

Hip Hop has been dying to me more and more everyday...people try to transcend and take it too far. Mos Def's last album was waay to experimental for me...Talib is still doing his thing...but not really getting the type of audience he deserves. They need to make another Blackstar album...that's for sure.

And what the hell happened to Fugees? Damn you Lauryn Hill! Get the **** over yourself already!

[nosebleed.]

ARkk9S5_k3c

skillz

[Deep Thinkin'!]

^^ is that really his voice?

[nosebleed.]

oh yeah, its scary.