The Hip Hop Thread

[spider-jide]

It's not music, it's just people talking fast. Thugs talking fast about thug things. All about the image, the flash, the bling. "Look at me. I'm a stupid, worthless, thug muthaforker but I got me a lambrghini, a ho on each arm and 500 carats of bling on my watch." Responsible for the "thugization" of the country.

Words can not express the hatred I feel towards rap.

Yo!!! Dead ass Tupac! Bite' "dis".

Congrats, your flaccid brain just proves how much of an ignorant little punk you are. You know nothing about rap music and the hiphop community. If anything you should "blame" white America, do some research and you'll know why. I refuse to satisfy and condone your ignorance by explaining it to someone so belligerant, only to have it obtusely dismissed by someone who's content in being discombobulated as opposed to understanding and maybe appreciating the art of rap for what it is.

How about you drop the six' and put a 9 to your head. :o

[The Lumberjack]

Well, the American MTV2 is starting to get like MTV. It's pretty sad how corrupted MTV has become. The original intent was to give artists shunned by the Pop scene a forum for their music.
I don't even bother w/ MTV or MTV2 anymore. They're both full of nothing but Real World/Road Rules re-runs. I used to have MTV X, which was nothing but rock, but they replaced that w/ MTV Jamz. Can you belive that MTV actually replaced rock videos w/ the only videos they even show anymore? Who would have thought.

[zeptron]

God, man Did you even see the first post of this thread, NO RAP HATERS, he politely asked for it. :down

I'm not even worried about that anymore. I knew someone who didn't like rap would come here and bash it. Like BK said if you don't like it stay out of this thread. Would you like it if I bashed your favorite type of music?

The last two sentences weren't directed towards you Twitch.

[Blade_fan1911]

God, man Did you even see the first post of this thread, NO RAP HATERS, he politely asked for it. :down

Thanks twitch im glad one person got the message.

[Mr. Thing]

I don't like rap, but I don't despise it.

I respect Rap and if people like it, fine.

[Knightsaber Priss]

I don't even bother w/ MTV or MTV2 anymore. They're both full of nothing but Real World/Road Rules re-runs. I used to have MTV X, which was nothing but rock, but they replaced that w/ MTV Jamz. Can you belive that MTV actually replaced rock videos w/ the only videos they even show anymore? Who would have thought.

I say let MTV saturate the airwaves with one style of music. Pretty soon people will get sick of it and lead to a revolution to balance everything out like they did when disco saturated the airwaves in the 70's.

[Twitch]

Congrats, your flaccid brain just proves how much of an ignorant little punk you are. You know nothing about rap music and the hiphop community. If anything you should "blame" white America, do some research and you'll know why. I refuse to satisfy and condone your ignorance by explaining it to someone so belligerant, only to have it obtusely dismissed by someone who's content in being discombobulated as opposed to understanding and maybe appreciating the art of rap for what it is.

I agree with your statement, but I'm not sure you should say all the white people don't know a thing about rap. I mean I'm white and I listen to Nas, Tupac, Biggie, Public Enemy etc. Forgive me if I misunderstood what you're trying to say.

[spider-jide]

I agree with your statement, but I'm not sure you should say all the white people don't know a thing about rap. I mean I'm white and I listen to Nas, Tupac, Biggie, Public Enemy etc. Forgive me if I misunderstood what you're trying to say.

I didn't say anything about white people not knowing anything about rap. In fact, I was saying that white people are a huge influence in the huge growth, expansion and popularity of rap music today.

[Twitch]

I'm not even worried about that anymore. I knew someone who didn't like rap would come here and bash it. Like BK said if you don't like it stay out of this thread. Would you like it if I bashed your favorite type of music?

The last two sentences weren't directed towards you Twitch.

I understand, I'm not the biggist on Rap but I do give it the same respect as I give to rock music.

[Twitch]

I didn't say anything about white people not knowing anything about rap.

I saw the quotations around the blame. My mistake :o

[Ultimate_Superman]

I didn't say anything about white people not knowing anything about rap. In fact, I was saying that white people are a huge influence in the huge growth, expansion and popularity of rap music today.Really to be honest white people are really the down fall of rap IMO. I mean even rappers admit it I remember a few of them saying that when you cross over to the white crowd you will start to see a decline in sales from blacks which is true. Because most blacks look at rap like its our own thing like most whites look at country and heavy meatl and grunge and rock as theirs. So when we see a person really of ther other race picking up that persons album we turn our ear to something new. Hint: Reason why Underground Rap is so big right now.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

God, how pathetic if that's true. I'm not "my race". I'm an individual, and when I hear music that I like, then, I LIKE it, so I buy it and listen to it. I couldn't give a **** what eveyone else thinks.
I'm in a Rock band. You think I've changed my sound or gotten embarrassed when we've had Black fans come to the shows? No.

Man I hate racism. :down

[terry78]

And FYI, rock is "ours" too, we just lost it along the way and deem it as "white people music" now.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Musical racists are funny. Like, they say "You can't play real blues if you're white." and I wanna say, "Yeah, and Yoyo Ma can't play classical very well because it's European music and Jimi Hendrix was a sucky Rock guitarist because he's Black."
What a load of horsecrap.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I know but thats how it is looked upon. I mean rap is more or less now looked upon as music for the streets hint: reason why people still talk about being poor and all. So now when the music is not looked upon as just for the streeets anymore we find something or someone new to like till the same thing happens to that.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Musical racists are funny. Like, they say "You can't play real blues if you're white." and I wanna say, "Yeah, and Yoyo Ma can't play classical very well because it's European music and Jimi Hendrix was a sucky Rock guitarist because he's Black."
What a load of horsecrap.I am not being a musical racists I am just telling you how most black people look at rap now these days. In the late 80's to mid 90's it wasn't the fact because not as many listened to it but after Pac died and Puffy changed the whole style of it and brought in the shiny suits rap started to fall off among the black crowd really.

[Ultimate_Superman]

And FYI, rock is "ours" too, we just lost it along the way and deem it as "white people music" now.We lost it with Evlis.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Cheezy fashion-oriented and irrelevant pop-Rap didn't start with Diddy. What about MC Hammer. :)

2 Legit
2 Legit 2 Quit

[Twitch]

Musical racists are funny. Like, they say "You can't play real blues if you're white." and I wanna say, "Yeah, and Yoyo Ma can't play classical very well because it's European music and Jimi Hendrix was a sucky Rock guitarist because he's Black."
What a load of horsecrap.

I agree,

Jimi Hendrix influcend the whole guitar sound for the new generation. I don't care if he's Black, Mexican, he's still an equeal to me.

BTW Scream, was the punk band X its real name or is it Something X?

I'm trying to download them.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Cheezy fashion-oriented and irrelevant pop-Rap didn't start with Diddy. What about MC Hammer. :)

2 Legit
2 Legit 2 QuitGood example and who did he bring in which almost killed rap




http://eil.com/newgallery/Vanilla-Ice-Play-That-Funky-M-166550.jpg

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I agree,

Jimi Hendrix influcend the whole guitar sound for the new generation. I don't care if he's Black, Mexican, he's still an equeal to me.

BTW Scream, was the punk band X its real name or is it Something X?

I'm trying to download them.The L.A. Punk legends Exene Cervenka, John Doe, DJ Bonebrake and Billy Zoom were collectively known as " X " if that's who you're talking about. But there are many X-bands, Mongo said reading about X always reminds him of Generation X, Billy Idol's first band...and nothing but a far cry from X, who effing ROCK. :)

[Twitch]

The L.A. Punk legends Exene Cervenka, John Doe, DJ Bonebrake and Billy Zoom were collectively known as " X " if that's who you're talking about. But there are many X-bands, Mongo said reading about X always reminds him of Generation X, Billy Idol's first band...and nothing but a far cry from X, who effing ROCK. :)

Thank you

[Super_Ludacris]

Musical racists are funny. Like, they say "You can't play real blues if you're white." and I wanna say, "Yeah, and Yoyo Ma can't play classical very well because it's European music and Jimi Hendrix was a sucky Rock guitarist because he's Black."
What a load of horsecrap.


There people who actually think that of Hendrix :confused:

[Sarge]

There people who actually think that of Hendrix :confused:
Probably. :(

[Wilhelm-Scream]

There people who actually think that of Hendrix :confused:I don't know of any, but that's what I'm saying, it would be stupid to think Jimi couldn't play Rock because of his race, and it's equally stupid to think White guys can't Rap or play the Blues only because of their race.

[spider-jide]

Really to be honest white people are really the down fall of rap IMO. I mean even rappers admit it I remember a few of them saying that when you cross over to the white crowd you will start to see a decline in sales from blacks which is true. Because most blacks look at rap like its our own thing like most whites look at country and heavy meatl and grunge and rock as theirs. So when we see a person really of ther other race picking up that persons album we turn our ear to something new. Hint: Reason why Underground Rap is so big right now.

To be honest the downfall of rap music are the rappers themselves, dishing out crap and expecting 5 mics? Please.

[spider-jide]

but after Pac died and Puffy changed the whole style of it and brought in the shiny suits rap started to fall off among the black crowd really.

Are you kidding?? Rap didn't fall off when puffy started bringing out the shiny suits, sure, hiphop became more comercial which was a good thing at the time but you have to understand that this was aftermath of the "east coast vs west coast" thing......and do you know how many units puffy's no way album sold?? Once things calmed down, people wanted the rough ****, they wanted more reasonable doubt type albums being dropped on the streets.
If rap did fall it was before puffy came out with the shny suits, maybe puffy helped s some sort of subconscious catalyst but he in no way perpetuated the downfall.

[Six_O_Six_Nine]

How about you drop the six' and put a 9 to your head. :o

Spoken like a true thug. Congratulations. You just proved my point, pinhead.

[Twitch]

Spoken like a true thug. Congratulations. You just proved my point, pinhead.

One Comment and you think he's a thug. You're a douche :down

[spider-jide]

Spoken like a true thug. Congratulations. You just proved my point, pinhead.

Thats right, I proved your point because you quoted the last line of my post, nevermind the other 5 odd lines that told it how it is. :rolleyes:

I've got to say, I do give you credit for consistancy because your still an ignorant little punk. :o

[Six_O_Six_Nine]

Thats right, I proved your point because you quoted the last line of my post, nevermind the other 5 odd lines that told it how it is. :rolleyes:

I've got to say, I do give you credit for consistancy because your still an ignorant little punk. :o

Not that I am, but I'd rather be an ignorant punk than a thug with no taste any day.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

What?!?

A back and forth verbal fight and name-calling session on a Rap thread?!? :eek:

I'm...I'm in shock!
Please continue. I've never SEEN anything like THIS before!


:rolleyes:

[Super_Ludacris]

Not that I am, but I'd rather be an ignorant punk than a thug with no taste any day.


You need a black girl in your life :o

[Equint77]

Not that I am, but I'd rather be an ignorant punk than a thug with no taste any day.


that has to be the most senseless sentence I've read.

so what's the difference between an ignorant punk and a thug?

[Wilhelm-Scream]

E, did you see the Rap you helped me write a few pages back?

[Equint77]

E, did you see the Rap you helped me write a few pages back?

nah wil.. where is it?

[TheJournalist]

1. Canibus
2. Immortal Technique
3. Big L
4. The Journalist
5. JMT
6. KRS 1
7. Nas
EDIT- I would put Ras Kass before JMT actually.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

bottom of the first page.

[Super_Ludacris]

1. Canibus
2. Immortal Technique
3. Big L
4. The Journalist
5. JMT
6. KRS 1
7. Nas


What up cousin, how ya livin?

[Equint77]

bottom of the first page.

you can have it... with me asking for no royalties..

just shout my name out in a few songs and some credit on the album cover and we call it even. :up:



Re-reading it I realized that's my whole damn post... 100K and we're even.. plus what I wrote above.

[spider-jide]

Not that I am, but I'd rather be an ignorant punk than a thug with no taste any day.


Oh but you are an ignorant little punk. Despite the kind pleads of the thread starter for sensless rap haters to stay away, you came in and bombarded the thread with your remedial comments. Ignorant punk at its best. :o

[Mr. Thing]

Oh but you are an ignorant little punk. Despite the kind pleads of the thread starter for sensless rap haters to stay away, you came in and bombarded the thread with your remedial comments. Ignorant punk at its best. :o

I agree. I don't like Rap, but I don't hijack a thread and saying negative comments about the thread subject if it is respectable.

[spider-jide]

I agree. I don't like Rap, but I don't hijack a thread and saying negative comments about the thread subject if it is respectable.

Thank you! :up:

I can appreciate if people actually hated rap for their own reasons but its a diferent matter if someone want to act like an idiot about it.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Re-reading it I realized that's my whole damn post... 100K and we're even.. plus what I wrote above.I know, I couldn't believe your whole post practically rhymed. lol

[Mr. Thing]

Thank you! :up:

I can appreciate if people actually hated rap for their own reasons but its a diferent matter if someone want to act like an idiot about it.

Yeah.

I don't like rap because I don't. I don't say it's crap because how can it be if people like it?

If something is liked by people, then that something can't be crap.

[terry78]

http://www.toysnjoys.com/wallscrolls/onepiece06.jpg

As much as I hate to admit it, when my little cousins watch this show, the rap theme song is catchy.

Yo hooo, yo hooooo, here we go
Set sail for One Piece

Lord help me. :(

[Sarge]

http://www.toysnjoys.com/wallscrolls/onepiece06.jpg

As much as I hate to admit it, when my little cousins watch this show, the rap theme song is catchy.

Yo hooo, yo hooooo, here we go
Set sail for One Piece

Lord help me. :(
I once asked a kid I was babysitting how exactly that dude got all rubbery.

"Yo ho ho he took a bite of the gum gum!"

:confused:

[The Lumberjack]

http://www.rerock4ever.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/xx/NETSBLK001d.jpg

One of my favorite shirts.:up:

[TheJournalist]

LL Cool J - the GREATEST of ALLL TIIIIIIIIIIIME!!!!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/oregondude/GOAT.jpg

Canibus punished him.

Throw yourself off a cliff

[Sarge]

http://www.rerock4ever.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/xx/NETSBLK001d.jpg

One of my favorite shirts.:up:
Ha. :D


Punk doesn't suck though, old school NY/Brit punk is awesome, so is some West Coast punk (minus Green Day. :mad:)

[The Lumberjack]

Ha. :D


Punk doesn't suck though, old school NY/Brit punk is awesome, so is some West Coast punk (minus Green Day. :mad:)
The Ramones, the Clash, a little bit of the Sex Pistols, and a handful of other songs have transcended punk to become great music in general, but most of it still just a bag of asses.

[Mr. Thing]

The Ramones, the Clash, a little bit of the Sex Pistols, and a handful of other songs have transcended punk to become great music in general, but most of it still just a bag of asses.

Don't forget The Buzzc0cks.

[The Lumberjack]

Don't forget The Buzzc0cks.
I should have said a handful of other bands, but it's still very limited.

[Addendum]

I liked rap when it was positive. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Run DMC, Public Enemy are the ones I still listen to. I've not heard much from Outkast, but from what I've heard I liked.

[Killswitch]

Everybody check out MC ABDOMINAL. He raps about fast food, his hot sister, etc. He's my favorite, and he never swears! He's probably the best MC I have ever heard.

[Twitch]

The Ramones, the Clash, a little bit of the Sex Pistols, and a handful of other songs have transcended punk to become great music in general, but most of it still just a bag of asses.

:up::up::up:

[rigel7soldiers]

1. The Beastie Boys
2. Run DMC
3. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five
4. Kurtis Blow
5. NWA
6. Biz Markie
7. The Chemical Brothers
8. Lauryn Hill
9. MF Doom
10. Public Enemy

Is it okay for me to put groups? Good, because I'm not changing it.

[spider-jide]

My favourite rapper of all time is definately Biggie Smalls, no one touches that man when it comes to rhymin' skillz and watching the vma's was awesome, seeing an orchestral remix of juicy and snoop dogg spittin biggie's recipient lines off of, warning, that was just too sick for words.

[Super_Ludacris]

Personally I thought Kool G Rap, Rakim and Big Pun would have murdered him in a battle. Pun especially he was sick with his. Peep his lines on "Super Lyrical' and "Dream Shatterer". Damn that dude would rip would something terrible

[spider-jide]

Personally I thought Kool G Rap, Rakim and Big Pun would have murdered him in a battle. Pun especially he was sick with his. Peep his lines on "Super Lyrical' and "Dream Shatterer". Damn that dude would rip would something terrible

Are you serious?? Biggie would eat them like they were double cheese burgers.

[Super_Ludacris]

Are you serious?? Biggie would eat them like they were double cheese burgers.

Have you heard Capital Punishment?

Ayo I shatter dreams like Jordan
Assault batter ya team
You squad will get banned from the garden like Adam and Eve
I'm carving my initials on your forehead
so every night, before bed
You see the BP shine off the Boardhead

:eek:

Pun was a beast

Rakim is the God MC

and G Rap gave birth to the rapid fire mafioso flow of New York

[ObakeTora]

Does anyone here like rap music? If so who are your favorite artists? My ten favorite in no particular order:

1. Eminem
2. Ludacris
3. Kanye West
4. Snoop Dogg
5. DMX
6. The Notorious B.I.G
7. Nas
8. Dr. Dre
9. Busta Rhymes
10. Tupac

(NOTE: This thread is NOT for any of you to come here and talk about how much you hate rap. DO NOT do that in this thread.)

My fav artist is Ice Cube. The hardest rapper that ever lived.

[terry78]

I notice nobody put down any females. Maybe we need a top ten favorite female rappers thread.

1. Q. Latifah
2. Yo-Yo
3. MC Lyte
4. Angie Martinez
5. Rah Digga
6. Eve
7. Lil' Kim
8. Trina
9. Salt 'n Pepa
10. Da Brat

[Blade_fan1911]

Wait.....wait is this thread finally back to talking about rap.

[Addendum]

Any recommendations for a fan of Old-School rap?

[Blade_fan1911]

I would say Kanye West but i heard his new albums wasn't immpressive.

[BK]

Whoever said that is a plain idiot. :down

[Blade_fan1911]

I never liked kanye so i wouldn't know if it was good or bad but i've been hearing from friends it was good but not great. Have you heard it yet BK.

[BK]

Yeah I've had it for 2 weeks now. Best album of the year so far imo. :up:

[Blade_fan1911]

I might have to give it a chance then.

[spider-jide]

Have you heard Capital Punishment?

Ayo I shatter dreams like Jordan
Assault batter ya team
You squad will get banned from the garden like Adam and Eve
I'm carving my initials on your forehead
so every night, before bed
You see the BP shine off the Boardhead

:eek:

Pun was a beast

Rakim is the God MC

and G Rap gave birth to the rapid fire mafioso flow of New York

I see where your comming from but you need to sit down and listen to biggie, dont hear him but listen to him, dude was colossal. Have you heard this track called, a man with a gun fet biggie, jay-z and joell ortiz? Biggie killed it and that verse alone establishes why lyrically and flow-wise bigie was the untouchable god-like beast.

[Biggie Smalls]
I'm hard, Jehovah said I'm barred from the pearly gates
**** him, I didn't want to go to Heaven anyway
But my momma got me on my knees with my hands gripped
Talking ‘bout some praise the lord ****
Hail Mary, **** her, I never knew her
I'd probably screw her, and dump her body in the sewer
Our Father – My pops stuck up dope spots
Big black and mean with the fifth by the gabardine
What you expected from his next of kin?
I'm loco bro, but ain't no Mexican
I got nines in the bedroom, glocks in the kitchen
A shotty by the shower if you wanna shoot me while I'm ****tin
The lesson from the Smith and Wessun is depressin
*****s keep stressin, the same mother****in question
How many shots does it take, to make my heart stop
and my body start to shake?

Then dont even get me started on his story telling, both his ready to die and life after death albums are just sick, even in this day and age. A particular favourite of mine is, kick in the door, that track was a lyrically, colossal assasination.

kick in the door
Your reign on the top was short like leprechauns
As I crush so-called willies, thugs, and rapper-dons
Get in that ass, quick fast, like ramadan
Its that rap phenomenon Don-Dadda, **** Poppa
You got ta, call me, Francis M.H. White
in tank-light totes, tote iron
Was told in shootouts, stay low, and keep firin
Keep extra clips for extra ****
Who's next to flip, on that cat with that grip on rap
The mo shady, "Tell em!", Frankie baby
Ain't no tellin where I may be
May see me in D.C. at Howard Homecomin
with my man Capone, dumbin, ****in somethin
You should know my steelo
Went from ten G's for blow to thirty G's a show
to orgies with hoes I never seen befo'
so, Jesus, get off the Notorious
penis, before I squeeze and bust
If the beef between us, we can settle it
With the chrome and metal ****
I make it hot, like a kettle get
You're delicate, you better get, who sent ya?
You still pedal ****, I got more rides than Great Adventure
Biggie, "How are you gonna do it?"

[Chorus: repeat 4X]

Kick in the door, wavin the four-four
All you heard was Poppa don't hit me no more

[Verse Two:]

On ya mark, get set, when I spark, ya wet
Look how dark it get, when ya marked with death
Should I start your breath should I let you die
In fear you start to cry, ask why
Lyrically, I'm worser, don't front the word sick
You cursed it, but rehearsed it
I drop unexpectedly like bird ****
You herbs get, stuck quickly for royalties and show money
Don't forget the publishin, I punish em, I'm done with them
Son, I'm surprised you run with them
I think they got cum in them, cause they, nothin but *****
Tryin to blow up like nitro and dynamite sticks
Mad I smoke hydro rock diamonds, that's sick
Got pay off my flow, rhyme with my own click
Take trips to Cairo, layin with yo *****
I know you prayin you was rich, ****in prick
When I see ya I'ma

[Chorus]

[Verse Three:]

This goes out for those that choose to use
Disrespectful views on the King of NY
**** that, why try, throw bleach in your eye
Now ya Braille in it, stash that light ****, or scalin it
Conscience of ya nonsense in eighty-eight
Sold more powder than Johnson and Johnson
Tote steel like Bronson, vigilante
You wanna get on son, you need to ask me
Ain't no other king in this rap thing
They siblings, nothing but my chil'ren
One shot, they disappearin
Its ill when, MC's used to be on cruddy ****
Took home, Ready to Die, listened, studied ****
Now they on some money ****, successful out the blue
They light weight, fragilly, my nine milly
make the white shake, thats why my money never funny
And you still recoupin, stupid [echoes]

[The Storm]

Yeah I've had it for 2 weeks now. Best album of the year so far imo. :up:

Better than Common's Be?

[Equint77]

I notice nobody put down any females. Maybe we need a top ten favorite female rappers thread.

1. Q. Latifah
2. Yo-Yo
3. MC Lyte
4. Angie Martinez
5. Rah Digga
6. Eve
7. Lil' Kim
8. Trina
9. Salt 'n Pepa
10. Da Brat

I don't know if I'd put Angie in there.... she was never a rapper... she just hung out with a bunch of them.

Foxy... Early Kim.... hell Bohamadia for the 2 minutes she had a record.

[Connor MacLeod]

I would really like for someone to explain to me how a classic album, a mediocre double-album and a series of hit & miss guest spots is enough to make anyone the best emcee let alone be on the top ten list?

And yes, I mean Biggie Smalls. It's like when hockey fans say Mario Lemeuix was better than Gretzky based on potential.

[spider-jide]

I would really like for someone to explain to me how a classic album, a mediocre double-album and a series of hit & miss guest spots is enough to make anyone the best emcee let alone be on the top ten list?

And yes, I mean Biggie Smalls. It's like when hockey fans say Mario Lemeuix was better than Gretzky based on potential.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Your not serios, cuz. I think its clear your relatively new to hiphop. RTD was definately a claasic, LAD mediocre?? :eek: Sorry mate, its not your time, your not ready, cuz. Hit and mis guest spots?? Biggie murdered every verse he eve did on a guest spot and furthermore, listen to his freestyle called, wickedest, that alone whipes his ass with every other mc that exists or existed.

Aww, you dont know what time it is. Dont be watching the hypnotize or big poppa videos, go listen to biggie smalls, his real ****.

[terry78]

Even his stint on Bone and Biggie was decent...he was more than keeping up with their trademark speedy flows.

[J-MAN_Begins]

From the late 80's rap and punk rock were hand in hand in underground clubs. And now both are commercialized to death in this country. Its so sad to see rap now. Everyone sounds the same!!!!They might as well as put on black face and start tap dancing. That is how silly it has gotten (with few exceptions of course, Nas, Kanye, Common, Mos Def, Older and more mature Jay-Z and others i can't think of right now)

I love the rap artists who stayed true to themselves and didn't get sucked in to the whole "gangster" persona. My favorite artists and i recommend to anyone who loves true hip hop-

The Pharcyde
Da Bush-Babees
Tribe Called Quest
The Roots
Slick Rick
Rakim
Original Flavor
Eric Sermon and Parish Smith
Pete Rock and C.L. Smooth
KRSone

Those are just off the top of my head.

[Equint77]

From the late 80's rap and punk rock were hand in hand in underground clubs. And now both are commercialized to death in this country. Its so sad to see rap now. Everyone sounds the same!!!!They might as well as put on black face and start tap dancing. That is how silly it has gotten (with few exceptions of course, Nas, Kanye, Common, Mos Def, Older and more mature Jay-Z and others i can't think of right now)

I love the rap artists who stayed true to themselves and didn't get sucked in to the whole "gangster" persona. My favorite artists and i recommend to anyone who loves true hip hop-

The Pharcyde
Da Bush-Babees :up: :up:
Tribe Called Quest
The Roots
Slick Rick
Rakim
Original Flavor
Eric Sermon and Parish Smith
Pete Rock and C.L. Smooth
KRSone

Those are just off the top of my head.

Those 3 grew up around my HS so when they first got signed there were a boatload of people sportin their stickers and CD. Flatbush Brooklyn.. :up: :up:

[J-MAN_Begins]

Damn sooo lucky. Unfortunatley i was just a little kid. Thats right lets rep brooklyn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Sweet, Terry remembers Yo-Yo.
Man she was hot.
"And listen to my BI-O, Compared to me? girl Yer not FLY-O."

:up:

[terry78]

There really aren't any good female rappers anymore, man. They've become just like the dudes in that their entire repertoire of songs revolves around the hook "suck on the clit".

[Equint77]

I would really like for someone to explain to me how a classic album, a mediocre double-album and a series of hit & miss guest spots is enough to make anyone the best emcee let alone be on the top ten list?

And yes, I mean Biggie Smalls. It's like when hockey fans say Mario Lemeuix was better than Gretzky based on potential.

listen to his verse on Dolly My Baby by Supercat....

but that might be too advanced.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

uh, Trina is freaking amazing. And I don't remember her ever saying s.o.t.c.

[Connor MacLeod]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Your not serios, cuz. I think its clear your relatively new to hiphop. RTD was definately a claasic, LAD mediocre?? :eek: Sorry mate, its not your time, your not ready, cuz. Hit and mis guest spots?? Biggie murdered every verse he eve did on a guest spot and furthermore, listen to his freestyle called, wickedest, that alone whipes his ass with every other mc that exists or existed.

Aww, you dont know what time it is. Dont be watching the hypnotize or big poppa videos, go listen to biggie smalls, his real ****.

Dude....I'm 29 and been listening to hiphop since Run DMC and the Beastie Boys. And frankly overglorified "Pop" music like Biggie and 50 Cent are why I rarely listen to rap anymore. And I notice the thread is "rap" fans, not "hiphop" fans.

At this point I'd rather listen to reggae. It's way more satisfying.

[Equint77]

Dude....I'm 29 and been listening to hiphop since Run DMC and the Beastie Boys. And frankly overglorified "Pop" music like Biggie and 50 Cent are why I rarely listen to rap anymore. And I notice the thread is "rap" fans, not "hiphop" fans.

At this point I'd rather listen to reggae. It's way more satisfying.

Big is far from Pop... and Those Beastie Bastards are beyond overrrated.. I dont' care if they were one of Def Jam's first artists. They get more love outside NY than from it.

Overglorified? I guess that's a matter of opinion. Good thing you don't go to Fulton Mall or Dekalb Avenue.. you'd hate it.

[terry78]

uh, Trina is freaking amazing. And I don't remember her ever saying s.o.t.c.


Nah her thing was, "back up, that ass is too fat!":D

http://www.down-south.com/images/covers/florida/Trina-DiamondPrincess.jpg

[Equint77]

Nah her thing was, "back up, that ass is too fat!":D

http://www.down-south.com/images/covers/florida/Trina-DiamondPrincess.jpg

I liked that song with tweet a few years back. She killed it.

[Connor MacLeod]

Big is far from Pop... and Those Beastie Bastards are beyond overrrated.. I dont' care if they were one of Def Jam's first artists. They get more love outside NY than from it.

Overglorified? I guess that's a matter of opinion. Good thing you don't go to Fulton Mall or Dekalb Avenue.. you'd hate it.

I mean it's all a matter of opinion. I'm not trying to thrash anyone else's opinion. Just stating mine. And I do like a lot of things Biggie did. Ready to Die was a definite classic. One of the best albums ever. But I just do not see his body of work justifing some of the praise that is directed his way.

An interesting thing to note. Like Tupac, Biggie's style has been consistantly ripped-off and used by other artists.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I don't even like Black chicks but Jesus I want her.
I like Da Baddest B****.


[trina]
I'm representin' for the *****es
All eyes on your riches
No time for the little *****
You see the bigger the ****
The bigger the bank, the bigger the benz
The better the chance to get close to his rich friends
I'm going after the big man
G-string make his **** stand
Make it quick then slow head by the night stand
Like lightning i wanna n**** with a wedding ring
Bank accounts in the philippines
Blank note to take everything
See i **** him in the living room
While his children ain't home
I make him eat it while my period on
A little nasty ho, red-bone but a classy ho
Young jazzy ho and don't be scared
If you're curious just ask me hoes
And yes **** sucking comes quite natural
I'm da baddest ***** what

See i hate hoes who take their n***** on talk shows and for hoes
(y'all sold fool)
See if i'm ever crossed or ever caught up in the cross
And if it's your fault ho, i'm going off ho
See i'm unemployed with no boss ho
While y'all sucking **** for free i'm broke off ho
See it pays to be the boss ho
**** that's how you floss hoes
X-rated elevated, buck naked
And i'd probably **** your daddy
If your mammie wasn't playa hatin'
Cause i'm da baddest *****
I'm da baddest ***** what

[trina]
I got game for young hoes
Don't grow to be a dumb hoe, that's a no-no
See if you off the chains
Stay ahead of the game, save up buy a condo
Sell the ***** by the grands
And in months you own a benz
Another week a set of rims
See if i had the chance to be a virgin again
I'd be ****ing by the time i'm ten
See off glass is my motto
**** suckin in the auto
Quick ****in 'bout to follow
On the back of the truck
Or when i'm dead ass drunk
But i don't get high though
I never took it up the ***
Often tried but i pass
And from what i heard it ain't bad
I'm a curious ***** who took off to get broke off
From the baby's dad
Cause i'm da baddest *****

She is wicked and I like her attitude.

[Equint77]

I mean it's all a matter of opinion. I'm not trying to thrash anyone else's opinion. Just stating mine. And I do like a lot of things Biggie did. Ready to Die was a definite classic. One of the best albums ever. But I just do not see his body of work justifing some of the praise that is directed his way.

An interesting thing to note. Like Tupac, Biggie's style has been consistantly ripped-off and used by other artists.

Nah.. I know you posted your opinion... which is why I replied that it was all a matter of taste. I'd say BIG gets play for not only his small body of work but the influence Ready To Die had on so many artists.

Sometimes one classic album can outlast artists, genre's, videos, musical culture.

And if he is glorified it's cause of that reason you pointed out... he's always being ripped off.

[KenK]

I haven't gone through the whole thread, but has anyone mentioned MF DOOM(aka Viktor Vaughn). I got into him in a big way last summer, and he's put out nothing but hotness since! Madvillain, Viktor Vaughn 2: Venomous Villain, MM FOOD, all certified bangers! Next, he's got a CD with DJ Danger Mouse (together as DangerDoom) and he's also working with Ghostface Killah. Now THAT should be some hot sh**!

[Connor MacLeod]

What about Kool Keith? The brotha is on another planet.

And KRS-ONE is a hiphop god.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Dr. Octagon - :up:

KRS-ONE - Over-rated. :down
He's one of those guys that raps about how he's a teacher sent to bring knowledge, but, he never teaches or brings any knowledge. :down :down

[Six_O_Six_Nine]

If The Hype was a city, this thread would be located in the housing projects.

[terry78]

If The Hype was a city, this thread would be located in the housing projects.
See, that's the exact kind of mentality people on this board have right now, hence the need for these kinds of discussions.

[Equint77]

If The Hype was a city, this thread would be located in the housing projects.

Green Day fan. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[KenK]

See, that's the exact kind of mentality people on this board have right now, hence the need for these kinds of discussions.

I swear! Too many people take the little slivers of hip-hop MTV selectively gives them and act like they know everything they need to know, if not moreso than the people who actually do live it.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

If The Hype was a city, this thread would be located in the housing projects.Well you look like you bought your suit at the toilet store.

bOIng!:confused:

[terry78]

Now if you wanted ghetto, knock yourself out.

http://www.maverickentertainment.cc/images/products/HoodratsFN.jpg

[KenK]

Now if you wanted ghetto, knock yourself out.

http://www.maverickentertainment.cc/images/products/HoodratsFN.jpg

And they all look so happy to be there! My god. :(

[terry78]

And they all look so happy to be there! My god. :(
They're about to put the smackdown on some poor vato.

[Six_O_Six_Nine]

"Daddy, is this the bad part of town?"

"Yes sweetie. We best roll up the windows, lock the doors, and get out of here fast!" :eek:

[BK]

Seriously...get the f**k out. :down

[Six_O_Six_Nine]

"Daddy, why is that man cursing at us? I'm scared."

[oregondude]

Big is far from Pop... and Those Beastie Bastards are beyond overrrated.. I dont' care if they were one of Def Jam's first artists. They get more love outside NY than from it.

Overglorified? I guess that's a matter of opinion. Good thing you don't go to Fulton Mall or Dekalb Avenue.. you'd hate it.

Are you stoned? The Beastie Boys HELPED make Rap what it is today. They helped usher in a whole new audience, good or bad, and brought rap to the mainstream alongside RUn DMC and Cool J.

Anyone stating the Beasties ae overrated must be under 16. This group had a profound impact on rap music. It became even more accessible to suburban youth broadeing the audience that listens to rap music and gives other artists a chance. They were one of the very first groups to marry rap and rock and make it work. Look at each album they put out, they are always evolving. Ganted some of their stuff I really do not like but it is pure ignorance to call them overrated.

[oregondude]

Dude....I'm 29 and been listening to hiphop since Run DMC and the Beastie Boys. And frankly overglorified "Pop" music like Biggie and 50 Cent are why I rarely listen to rap anymore. And I notice the thread is "rap" fans, not "hiphop" fans.

At this point I'd rather listen to reggae. It's way more satisfying.

I could not agree more Highlander. Rap music today is all about catchy bets and how many sneakers you can sell. 50 sucks, the guy can hardly speak in coherent sentences let alone "flow" and his music lacks ANY substance.

Biggie, always hated him and never understood why he became so popular after he was gone. Look at some of these artists that have done well over the last decade, it is all about singles now, not bodies of work. Black Eyed Peas were not all that popular at all until they added the manly looking Fegie and had the one single played at every sports arena across the country. Had they not gone pop with "Let's get it started" they would still be a small time group.

I miss the days of old man, I do.

[Equint77]

Are you stoned? The Beastie Boys HELPED make Rap what it is today. They helped usher in a whole new audience, good or bad, and brought rap to the mainstream alongside RUn DMC and Cool J.

Anyone stating the Beasties ae overrated must be under 16. This group had a profound impact on rap music. It became even more accessible to suburban youth broadeing the audience that listens to rap music and gives other artists a chance. They were one of the very first groups to marry rap and rock and make it work. Look at each album they put out, they are always evolving. Ganted some of their stuff I really do not like but it is pure ignorance to call them overrated.

I never cared for them so their music never meant anything to me.... when I was in HS.. no one ever played their CD's... no one I hung out with.

Then I went out to Cali and they couldn't stop playing thier music. I'm sorry... but to me they don't mean anything. And I'm 28. You can think what you want.. you're a fan that's great.. Call me what you want...but I don't rate them as high as others.

[J-MAN_Begins]

"Daddy, is this the bad part of town?"

"Yes sweetie. We best roll up the windows, lock the doors, and get out of here fast!" :eek:

somebody ban this trick.

[J-MAN_Begins]

I never cared for them so their music never meant anything to me.... when I was in HS.. no one ever played their CD's... no one I hung out with.

Then I went out to Cali and they couldn't stop playing thier music. I'm sorry... but to me they don't mean anything. And I'm 28. You can think what you want.. you're a fan that's great.. Call me what you want...but I don't rate them as high as others.

yep. the beatle boys weren't big in ny. at least in the part of brooklyn im from. thy were popular with white people, not really black people. i don't know any black people who have their album

[Equint77]

yep. the beatle boys weren't big in ny. at least in the part of brooklyn im from. thy were popular with white people, not really black people. i don't know any black people who have their album

Yeah same here... I went to HS in Midwood which was on Flatbush... the only kids who listened to them were the kids who got in with their grades and not through Zoning.:o

I hung out with a different crowd from the Beastie Fans so I hardly ever heard their music.

[Milkman95]

If The Hype was a city, this thread would be located in the housing projects.

Simply hilarious................ :up:

[spider-jide]

Dude....I'm 29 and been listening to hiphop since Run DMC and the Beastie Boys. And frankly overglorified "Pop" music like Biggie and 50 Cent are why I rarely listen to rap anymore. And I notice the thread is "rap" fans, not "hiphop" fans.

At this point I'd rather listen to reggae. It's way more satisfying.

For someone who's been listening to rap music for aout 20 years or so, how can you say Biggie made "pop" music. Have you actually listened to RTD and LAD, those aren't commercial albums and biggie was 1 of the few rappers tha personified what rap music was all about.

Seeing as we're on this matter, I've said it before and I'll say it again.
The difference between rap and hiphop? rap is the music, hiphop is the culture.

As for 50cent, he's garbage, nothing but hype and in genral is a weak mcee, as for Bigie Smalls, he's either takes the number 1 spot or number 2, in my eyes, he's number 1. How many mcees, sample his lyrics? How many of biggies lines does Jay attribute to his own tracks? How many mcees out there can make tracks from '94 and still bang 'em out today like it was released about a month ago? As the song goes, Biggie Smalls is the illest. If anyone has doubts, I dare anyone to listen to a track he did called,the wickedest and then come back and tell me he's pop or was mediocre or shouldn't be in the top 10 or whatever some people said.

[spider-jide]

Big is far from Pop... and Those Beastie Bastards are beyond overrrated.. I dont' care if they were one of Def Jam's first artists. They get more love outside NY than from it.

Overglorified? I guess that's a matter of opinion. Good thing you don't go to Fulton Mall or Dekalb Avenue.. you'd hate it.

:up: :up:

[Whack Arnolds]

I don't need a reason besides it's unpleasing to the ears.AKA "I have no rythm" :confused:

[Six_O_Six_Nine]

Simply hilarious................ :up:

At last...someone with a sense of humour. It's like a cool glass of water in the middle of the desert.


Take that, Evil Thugs!!!

[Blade_fan1911]

You have know idea what a housing projects is unless you've seen it on tv.

[TheJournalist]

I actually agree with Connor MacLeod on this.

and who said KRS was overrated? Is he even mentioned anymore?

[oregondude]

Does anyone know what the first rap album released was called and who the artist/artists were?

[terry78]

The Sugarhill Gang. Rapper's Delight. Though some say it was Afrika Bambata.

[Whack Arnolds]

I didn't get into the rap game untill late '96/'97, so I wasn't influenced by rappers like Rakim or KRS 1, or Kool G Rap...so that's why they are not in MY top ten.
My favorite rap artists /groups:
1) Tupac
2) Eminem
3) Biggie Smalls
4) Nas
5) Jay Z
6) Kanye West
7) Talib Kweli
8) WuTang Clan
9) Canibus
10) Mos Def

[Whack Arnolds]

You have know idea what a housing projects is unless you've seen it on tv.Seriously... ignorance still runs rampant in America, I'm afraid. :(

[Blade_fan1911]

Seriously... ignorance still runs rampant in America, I'm afraid. :(

He shouldn't make fun of people less fortunate them him.:o:down

[TheJournalist]

I didn't get into the rap game untill late '96/'97, so I wasn't influenced by rappers like Rakim or KRS 1, or Kool G Rap...so that's why they are not in MY top ten.
My favorite rap artists /groups:
1) Tupac
2) Eminem
3) Biggie Smalls
4) Nas
5) Jay Z
6) Kanye West
7) Talib Kweli
8) WuTang Clan
9) Canibus
10) Mos Def
I have to give your props for listing Canibus.

[Whack Arnolds]

He shouldn't make fun of people less fortunate them him.:o:downSeriously, Housing Projects doesnt equate to black people who listen to rap or criminals. It's nothing but stereotypes and subdued racism when people say to watch yourself in those neighborhoods. I live right by one of the MOST infamous and dangerous housing projects not only in Chicago but in America, and I know more good people who live there than there is criminals. It's ignorant and stupid for the kid to try to relate crime to lower income housing. Criminals are EVERYWHERE. Some CEO's of prominent companies are criminals, which means his daddy could be a criminal. Housing Projects relate to one's financial standing in life....not their race. One should not lood down on others who are less fortunate...rather lend a helping hand to a fellow brother in need. That's just one of the aspects wrong in today's world.

[BK]

Real talk from the one and only Chris Tucker. :up:

[Dark Donnie]

any reviews of the new Kanye Album?

[Whack Arnolds]

any reviews of the new Kanye Album?It's FIYAH...that's all I got to say...and all I need to. I tis possibly better than his first album. :up:

[Deadpool187]

My list -
1)Ma$e
2)Biggie
3)50 Cent
4)Tupac
5)Snoop

[TheJournalist]

I hate it.

[Whack Arnolds]

I can't believe Snitchy Cent signed Mobb Deep and Mase...
What's Mase going to rap about on the G-Unit label? Any subject he touches will either make him or Fifty a hypocrite, I just don't see how he fits. Mobb Deep will fit in though.

[James"007"Bond]

Ma$e joining g-unit is a complete and utter joke. What is mase thinkng? 50s getting desperate.

[Milkman95]

I hate it.

Very nice.........most of it's junk, some of it I can tolerate.........

And about this whole stereotyping thing, I was completely joking when I commented on it, people need to stop having thin skin around here.........

[James"007"Bond]

I can't believe Snitchy Cent signed Mobb Deep and Mase...
What's Mase going to rap about on the G-Unit label? Any subject he touches will either make him or Fifty a hypocrite, I just don't see how he fits. Mobb Deep will fit in though.

The only reason why I'm glad mobb deep signed with g-unit is so that those n1ggaz can get the adulation and paper that they deserve.

[Deadpool187]

I can't believe Snitchy Cent signed Mobb Deep and Mase...
What's Mase going to rap about on the G-Unit label? Any subject he touches will either make him or Fifty a hypocrite, I just don't see how he fits. Mobb Deep will fit in though.


The number one rapper on your list made himself look like a hypocrite.

[Whack Arnolds]

The number one rapper on your list made himself look like a hypocrite.How so? Please explain a thought out opinion on the accusation. :up:

[Deadpool187]

I hate it.


Who do like?

[Blade_fan1911]

Very nice.........most of it's junk, some of it I can tolerate.........

And about this whole stereotyping thing, I was completely joking when I commented on it, people need to stop having thin skin around here.........

Lol He was talking about the new kayne west cd. Not the music.:confused:

[TheJournalist]

I didn't mean your list, I meant I hate the new Kanye CD.
and I already posted my list.

[Whack Arnolds]

Very nice.........most of it's junk, some of it I can tolerate.........

And about this whole stereotyping thing, I was completely joking when I commented on it, people need to stop having thin skin around here.........Well when you joke in reference to race, and you're not Dave Chappelle an / or a comedian where the joke is actually funny...it gets kind of touchy. :up:

[Deadpool187]

How so? Please explain a thought out opinion on the accusation. :up:


Lots of people have said he was one minute hes saying keep your head up next calling them *****es. I'm not saying its a bad thing nobodys one sided

[Whack Arnolds]

Lots of people have said he was one minute hes saying keep your head up next calling them *****es. I'm not saying its a bad thing nobodys one sidedHow does that make him a hypocrite? He wasn't a hypocrite in the slightest. Mase actually is a hypocrite. He raps about his new found trust in god. What is he going to do when he goes to G-Unit? Rap about hanging with nuns, while Fifty and company rap about busting nines, and slinging rock?

[PoAnTimRSexi]

don't intend to get into the typical rap argument, because it tends to run the gamet in terms of ignorance and idiocy. but here's some of the rap artists i enjoy:

A Tribe Called Quest
Blackalicious
DMX
The Roots
Young Buck
Nas(the g.o.a.t., if you ask me)
Biggie Smalls
KRS One
50 Cent
Mobb Deep
Talib Kweli
Gift of Gab
Pac
Jurassic 5
Ludacris
Wu Tang Clan

[Deadpool187]

Mase was raw when he was with children of the corn. Then Puff told him to tone it down and do the shiny suit thing. Then he went to the god thing. Havent you ever changed how you feel about things? Plus when he did the Lean Back remix he fit in with that and had the best verse.

[Six_O_Six_Nine]

Who do like?

Please note the above. Ebonics has come to The Hype.

[Super_Ludacris]

don't intend to get into the typical rap argument, because it tends to run the gamet in terms of ignorance and idiocy. but here's some of the rap artists i enjoy:

A Tribe Called Quest
Blackalicious
DMX
The Roots
Young Buck
Nas(the g.o.a.t., if you ask me)
Biggie Smalls
KRS One
50 Cent
Mobb Deep
Talib Kweli
Gift of Gab
Pac
Jurassic 5
Ludacris
Wu Tang Clan


Decent and diverse list I can respect that

and to the cat who said Krs-One is overratted is crazy. He's one of the best and spontaneous liver perfromers. I saw him do a show back in June and he was amazing.

[The Spawn]

This thread reminds me of the old freestyle battles...so sick cats in there also.

[Connor MacLeod]

Black Eyed Peas were not all that popular at all until they added the manly looking Fegie and had the one single played at every sports arena across the country. Had they not gone pop with "Let's get it started" they would still be a small time group.

I miss the days of old man, I do.

BEP's pre-sellout were the shizzle!!! Then they went pop with where is the love, added a female and ....yuck.

Interesting note.....Black Eyed Peas were discovered by Easy E and were originally signed to Ruthless Records.

[Connor MacLeod]

Dr. Octagon - :up:

KRS-ONE - Over-rated. :down
He's one of those guys that raps about how he's a teacher sent to bring knowledge, but, he never teaches or brings any knowledge. :down :down


You obviously have never listened to "Black Cop".

[Incrediblejeff]

of course I am a Rap/Hip Hop fan I listen to
Nas
Kanye west
Bizzare
Common
T.I.
Murs
Eazy-E
Lil Kim
Talib
D12
Biggie
and a bunch of others,I'm so tired of the whole crunk movement.

[Dwarf lord]

That is completly ignorant. Not all rap is about that. Listen to Eminem and Kanye West they speak about their life. I agree alot of hip-hop is all about effing *****es and bustin caps in peoples ***es but saying all rap songs are the same is the most completely ignorant thing I've ever heard.

Yep their lives as women beaters and gay haters.

[Six_O_Six_Nine]

Don't mind me, just passing through looking for someone selling weed on a street corner.

[BK]

Yep their lives as women beaters and gay haters.
Kanye West is none of that. :confused:

[terry78]

Yep their lives as women beaters and gay haters.
What's wrong with that? Those gays and hoes need to learn their places, anyway. (Yes, I'm being facetious.) You notice no one has made any idiotic comments in the death metal thread yet.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

You obviously have never listened to "Black Cop".This is true. Just going by what I've heard of him, which is not a lot, because I was unimpressed with the few songs I had heard.

[BatmanRules33]

this is how i feel about rap:



MOST RAP SUCKS.

[Six_O_Six_Nine]

Kanye West is none of that. :confused:

I bet he's not really crazy about jewish folks, however,

[BK]

That's great. :confused: :up:

Can I ask what the hell you rap haters are doing in a rap thread when the first post KINDLY asks to stay out?

[terry78]

Because they know they're in the majority on here. Most typical suburban white dudes just don't like rap, and that's mostly whose on here. I've been here for about a year and a half, tell me I'm wrong.

[Six_O_Six_Nine]

That's great. :confused: :up:

Can I ask what the hell you rap haters are doing in a rap thread when the first post KINDLY asks to stay out?


Because by carjacking this thread we fit right in with it's subject matter. :D

[BK]

Still there's no point in barging in here like it's their turf. I guarantee half these people can't even look these "thugs" in the eye....but if it's on the net, oh yeaaa..it's time to act all big and talk **** about their music. :down

[BatmanRules33]

Because they know they're in the majority on here. Most typical suburban white dudes just don't like rap, and that's mostly whose on here. I've been here for about a year and a half, tell me I'm wrong.

must agree here. also, i didnt read the first post on here, i just saw the thread title and decided i'd state my opinion.

seriously, i thought the majority on here would like rap. thank heavens i was wrong.

[Six_O_Six_Nine]

Because they know they're in the majority on here. Most typical suburban white dudes just don't like rap, and that's mostly whose on here. I've been here for about a year and a half, tell me I'm wrong.

You're wrong. There are plenty of ******s in the 'burbs. Thanks Rap. :mad:

[Exabyte]

Have I posted in this thread already>?

-ethereal.

[BatmanRules33]

You're wrong. There are plenty of ******s in the 'burbs. Thanks Rap. :mad:

LMAO, too true. im so glad im outta high school now, that place was ****** central.:down

[TheJournalist]

Sound of da police by KRS one is amazing

[Sauron]

Rap sucks, they're nothing, no talent they don't even try to sound good anymore, they just sound like crack heads talking about the crap they own.

[Whack Arnolds]

Still there's no point in barging in here like it's their turf. I guarantee half these people can't even look these "thugs" in the eye....but if it's on the net, oh yeaaa..it's time to act all big and talk **** about their music. :downI know right. I bet all the people down talking it, and spouting out racial slurs wouldn't have the brass to say one of the comments made in this thread lalone to one of their faces let alone all of what was said. These kids making frun of rap, african americans, and followers of the hip hop culture are "like the WNBA...all pussies".

[Super_Ludacris]

Rap sucks, they're nothing, no talent they don't even try to sound good anymore, they just sound like crack heads talking about the crap they own.

Yet acts like Public Enemy, Nas, KRS-One, Run DMC, 2pac, Eminem, Jay-Z, Kanye West and the Fugees are recognised and respected within the overall music world and everyday international culture.

They are not all Gangsta Rappers. It's a weak argument. it's like saying all rock bands are like Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park. You gonna judge soley on the mainstream or MTV?
Poor judgement on your part. If you think all raps sucks I would advise you to listen to Little Brother and Saigon. Two up and coming hip hop acts and the content of the lyrics and you may change your mind

[The Storm]

^ What's your favourite Nas album?

[Addendum]

Old-school rap is brilliant stuff. When I hear an artist from that era whom I've never heard before, I enjoy it immensly. I personally didn't like the "gangsta rap" boom of the late 80's and early 90's. "Yo MTV raps" was a great show, but the influx of the newest fad killed it. While my collection of rap is small, at least the Vice City soundtrack has an old-school rap cd, from which I can discover groups I missed out on during my childhood.

[Super_Ludacris]

^ What's your favourite Nas album?


My order

1. It was Written (most diverse)
2. Stillmatic (comeback and he had that fire on it)
3. God Son (got personal on the CD and Made You Look is a banger)
4. Illmatic (Classic)

[The Storm]

Made You Look one of my favourite Nas tunes. I loved Stillmatic when it came out, I played it everyday. I haven't actually heard any of his other albums my brother had It Was Written but at the time I wasn't into Nas.

[BatmanRules33]

Rap sucks, they're nothing, no talent they don't even try to sound good anymore, they just sound like crack heads talking about the crap they own.

AGREED. :up:

and if one of these stupid gansta losers asked me if liked rap, i'd say "NO.", but i wouldnt say it sucks. ;)

[Whack Arnolds]

AGREED. :up:

and if one of these stupid gansta losers asked me if liked rap, i'd say "NO.", but i wouldnt say it sucks. ;)Then get out of this thread, there is virtually no point in you being here. I wonder why your parents didn't think of that earlier, and could have spared the rest of humanity. :up: :p

[BatmanRules33]

Then get out of this thread, there is virtually no point in you being here. I wonder why your parents didn't think of that earlier, and could have spared the rest of humanity. :up: :p

thats so immature, but damnit ill leave! after this......





oooooooosuckysuckyrapssucksssssssssssssss

[Super_Ludacris]

AGREED. :up:

and if one of these stupid gansta losers asked me if liked rap, i'd say "NO.", but i wouldnt say it sucks. ;)

You want some Milk and Cookies with your soft ass girlie rant Opie?

[The Storm]

"You gotta get, that dirt off your shoulder"

[Whack Arnolds]

You want some Milk and Cookies with your soft ass girlie rant Opie?Hahaha. :up:
I'm diggin your "loaction", great stuff.

[Dark Donnie]

does Saigon have a cd, or is it bootleg stuff? I d/l a couple of songsthat were great!

[oregondude]

The Sugarhill Gang. Rapper's Delight. Though some say it was Afrika Bambata.

I actually was going to follow this up with a funny joke about an irish rapper, but it seems to have lost its humor with me, so not going to share now ;)

Anybody remember The Get Fresh Crew?

Rap music in the early 80's was pretty comical in terms of its content. Not all the serious F YOU UP crap we have nowadays. Granted it has toned down quite a bit since the gangsta days.

My Favorite ap artists are old schooler. Cool J, Eric B & Rakim and Run DMC top the list. Big Daddy Kane was cool and Boogie Down Productions had a strong message. Public Enemy was good but the anti white message they put out at times bugged me. Mr F was just a cracked out freak but he was fun to watch at times. Chuck D strong performer with a strong voice. I used to like Too Short as he was fu to listen too in a juvenile sort of way, liked him until I met him. he is an ass hole.

[J-MAN_Begins]

Yet acts like Public Enemy, Nas, KRS-One, Run DMC, 2pac, Eminem, Jay-Z, Kanye West and the Fugees are recognised and respected within the overall music world and everyday international culture.

They are not all Gangsta Rappers. It's a weak argument. it's like saying all rock bands are like Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park. You gonna judge soley on the mainstream or MTV?
Poor judgement on your part. If you think all raps sucks I would advise you to listen to Little Brother and Saigon. Two up and coming hip hop acts and the content of the lyrics and you may change your mind

that new little brother track is pretty good. lets hope he becomes mainstream (for the sake of hip-hop). So everyone support him!!!!!!!!!!

btw, good post. i can't stand single minded people.

[Super_Ludacris]

Damn did y'all just see Kanye on NBC put Bush on blast

classic stuff

[Whack Arnolds]

Damn did y'all just see Kanye on NBC put Bush on blast

classic stuffWhat did he say?

[Super_Ludacris]

What did he say?

There was a telethon on NBC to get relief for Hurricane Katrina and at one point Mike Myers and Kanye West were there offering a plea to call. Suddenly Kanye just says out of nowhere "Geroge Bush doesn't care about black people". And Mike Myers looked like he took a crap in his pants. They quickly cut to Chris Tucker

I'll upload the link

[Sarge]

There was a telethon on NBC to get relief for Hurricane Katrina and at one point Mike Myers and Kanye West were there offering a plea to call. Suddenly Kanye just says out of nowhere "Geroge Bush doesn't care about black people". And Mike Myers looked like he took a crap in his pants. They quickly cut to Chris Tucker

I'll upload the link
You must post the video. :D

[BK]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Laughing/005.gif

[Super_Ludacris]

Try this:

rapidshare.de/files/4662131/Kanye_-_Red_Cross_Benefit_NBC_.mpg.html

and send this to all your republican friends as a pop-up:
http://bushdoesntcare.ytmnd.com/

[Whack Arnolds]

HAHAHAHA, holy ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA, look at Meyers face. Way to catch this Luda.... Did Chris Tucker follow up on it? HAHAHAHAHA

[Super_Ludacris]

lol oh ****.........there talking about what Kanye on Larry King and Jesse Jackson and the Mayor of NO agree (but they kinda bytched out and didn't give an affirmtive agree but you know what they felt)

[Super_Ludacris]

HAHAHAHA, holy ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA, look at Meyers face. Way to catch this Luda.... Did Chris Tucker follow up on it? HAHAHAHAHA


lol nah they just continued with the benefit but chris was stuttering and as you saw he too looked a little suprised

[Whack Arnolds]

How was it in the context? Like what did meyers say before or after?

[Super_Ludacris]

How was it in the context? Like what did meyers say before or after?


Basically they were both supposed to say what was on the telepropter. But Kanye as you saw really just spoke from his head and then there was a moment of silence for 5 secs and Kanye just calmy said "Geroge Bush doesn't care about black people". Mike Myers just turned and looked at him and then the camera cut to Chris Tucker off gaurd

[Whack Arnolds]

Basically they were both supposed to say what was on the telepropter. But Kanye as you saw really just spoke from his head and then there was a moment of silence for 5 secs and Kanye just calmy said "Geroge Bush doesn't care about black people". Mike Myers just turned and looked at him and then the camera cut to Chris Tucker off gaurdHAHAHAHAHA, I can picture Mike slowly turning his head and looking at Kanye who so calmly is staring in the camera and telling George Bush to go F--- himself. HAHAHAHA :up:
Cut to Chris Tucker too early smoking a joint.

[Super_Ludacris]

Mo' Links:

http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0CNWKJBHY6MYI04D11YS0JSV9X

http://rapidshare.de/files/4662131/Kanye_-_Red_Cross_Benefit_NBC_.mpg.html

[KenK]

They need to make t-shirts!!

[Sarge]

That was awesome...Mike Myers reaction was absoultely priceless. :D

[Super_Ludacris]

oh look they just edited Kanye out of the re-broadcast

[Whack Arnolds]

Kanye definetely needs to go back to college, "Late Registration" or not. WTF is "less well off people"...does he mean "lesser off people" ? lol. It was funny as hell. "George Bush doesn't care about black people" "Please call..."

[Super_Ludacris]

Kanye definetely needs to go back to college, "Late Registration" or not. WTF is "less well off people"...does he mean "lesser off people" ? lol. It was funny as hell. "George Bush doesn't care about black people" "Please call..."


He's talking about the fact that of course the people who suffered the worst were people in poverty who couldn't protect themselves from the storm........I think

[Blade_fan1911]

Chris Tuckers eyes were enough for me to laugh.

[The Ether]

BEST RAPPERS EVER IN NO ORDER

Nas
Notorious B.I.G.
Immortal Technique
AZ
Raekwon
Jedi Mind Tricks
Raekwon
GZA
Papoose
MF DOOM
Big L
Big Pun
Canibus
Kool G Rap
Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Jean Grae
Rakim
KRS-1

If you don't any of them check them out, There are other rappers I'll right them down later

[oregondude]

Yet acts like Public Enemy, Nas, KRS-One, Run DMC, 2pac, Eminem, Jay-Z, Kanye West and the Fugees are recognised and respected within the overall music world and everyday international culture.

They are not all Gangsta Rappers. It's a weak argument. it's like saying all rock bands are like Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park. You gonna judge soley on the mainstream or MTV?
Poor judgement on your part. If you think all raps sucks I would advise you to listen to Little Brother and Saigon. Two up and coming hip hop acts and the content of the lyrics and you may change your mind

The problem is that is what is mainstream. What is played on the radio AND on MTV, so that is what everybody thinks is the norm.

It is not so much single minded people, it is the fact that they do not know any different. Why don't you write a letter to MTV to start pushing a better variety? The ones who only follow what is force fed to them might then know of alternatives.

[The Ether]

thing is, people jump into the bandwagon which is right now for hip hop; beats that will make you jump or shake your booty with lyrics that rhyme with buns and gun.
Everyone who only listens to underground complains about the fact that MTV and BET only shows terrible songs so they just ignore the channels and just listen to the songs they like on they're CD player or computer. I want more diversity when it comes to hip hop, I want to see music videos by Nas, KRS-1, Rakim, AZ, Mos Def on BET or MTV or Muchmusic. I want to hear Jedi Mind Tricks, Immortal Technique on the radio, but the things he says about the government, and/or the bible are too extreme for them too listen to.

[kamesan]

"The state of hip-hop will continue to be fxxxed up"-Pull ya skirt up
I'm pretty sure we're gonna get the same rap & bullsxxt radio material & they're gonna pass it off as hip-hop. In a few years, someone or group will cut thru the red tape in the music industry & give people quality Hip-Hop/Rap. @ least that's what happened a decade ago...

[The Ether]

thing is, people jump into the bandwagon which is right now for hip hop; beats that will make you jump or shake your booty with lyrics that rhyme with buns and gun.
Everyone who only listens to underground complains about the fact that MTV and BET only shows terrible songs so they just ignore the channels and just listen to the songs they like on they're CD player or computer. I want more diversity when it comes to hip hop, I want to see music videos by Nas, KRS-1, Rakim, AZ, Mos Def on BET or MTV or Muchmusic. I want to hear Jedi Mind Tricks, Immortal Technique on the radio, but the things he says about the government, and/or the bible are too extreme for them too listen to.

[TheJournalist]

Finally after a drought all the good albums of 2005 are coming out

Kanye's Late Registration
AZ-AWOL
Little Brother-Minstrel Show
Saigon-Greatest Story Never Told

And there all Heat!
You can add Canibus' next two releases to that soon.

[The Ether]

You can add Canibus' next two releases to that soon.
I'm going to get AZ's Awol for sure. Canibus has released how many albums this already? like around 2, and he's gonna release another one? wow.

I'm also can't wait for Immortal techniques next album

[TheJournalist]

Uh, buddy, Canibus has released 6 albums already, and has 2 more coming up this year....

[The Ether]

i meant this year, canibus just released in one year

Vitruvian Man
Mind Control

[TheJournalist]

oh yea, plus a DVD and a mixtape title Mic Club master II

[The Ether]

damn, canibus is busy this year
no complaints though, this guy can spit. Not many rappers can rhyme with big words like this guy

[BK]

'Bis carries a thesaurus with him everytime he spits. :o :up:

[TheJournalist]

^^^Been reading The Source, have you?

[The Ether]

thats cool, he reads something
but damn, listening to 100 bars and poet laureate 2, does this guy even breath?

[TheJournalist]

Yea those songs are disgusting.

[The Ether]

bis is too sick

[TheJournalist]

This is too true, you are a real ripper

[TheJournalist]

I have like 1,200 Bis songs on my computer, I've been obsessed with him for like a year.

[The Ether]

I just like listening to rappers that can actually rip, or have crazy rhymes and lyrics

[The Kingpin]

The Emcee's (Jin) Properganda is coming out in october, sounds pretty hot so far.

[Super_Ludacris]

New Game mixtape dropped earleir. It's called Ghost Unit. And he's dissing G-Unit over the Ghostbusters theme..............(dunno what to say bout that)

Plus Paul Wall leaked out, DLing now

[Super_Ludacris]

The problem is that is what is mainstream. What is played on the radio AND on MTV, so that is what everybody thinks is the norm.

It is not so much single minded people, it is the fact that they do not know any different. Why don't you write a letter to MTV to start pushing a better variety? The ones who only follow what is force fed to them might then know of alternatives.


But you can certainly differentiate PE and Ye's content from the generic Crunk/Bling movement which non-rap fans might see as a blurb. AN writing a letter aint gonna do nothing, but if I was an A&R on a Universal label (Def Jam, Interscope) it might

[The Ether]

is the mixtape good?

[spider-jide]

I thought jin quit the game??

I also notice some reservation towards cam, and crew. I think that some of y'all aren't ready for dipset. I'm not even going to lie, I though they were wack before, the only thig I liked about them were the crazy-ass beats but sit down and give the a listen, those n1ggaz shine. I also got to gve jha jha a shout out too, that chick is fire!

[spider-jide]

New Game mixtape dropped earleir. It's called Ghost Unit. And he's dissing G-Unit over the Ghostbusters theme..............(dunno what to say bout that)

Plus Paul Wall leaked out, DLing now

lol, I've got to hear that.

[Super_Ludacris]

I thought jin quit the game??

I also notice some reservation towards cam, and crew. I think that some of y'all aren't ready for dipset. I'm not even going to lie, I though they were wack before, the only thig I liked about them were the crazy-ass beats but sit down and give the a listen, those n1ggaz shine. I also got to gve jha jha a shout out too, that chick is fire!



They are whack, people have compromised to there stupidity. It further's the belief that the East Coast is dying, it's not just in the record sales ( Other than 50 and Banks no rapper has gone platinum from NY and the mixtape the very thing that energised the East Coast with Kay Slay mixtapes featuring Beans-Jada and Nas-Jay beef in 2001 is redudant and boring with overhyped artists like Maino, Papoose, Stack Bundles, Jae Millz and Dipset) As a result they comprimise for that hot garbage. How can people sweat that **** when Little Brother, AZ, Saigon around.

[super-jide]

Im not a hip hop fan,im rock and roll all the way.

[Deadpool187]

spider-jide super-jide you guys should fight to the death. So the true jide will control all

[super-jide]

spider-jide super-jide you guys should fight to the death. So the true jide will control all


trust me the time is coming when I put the boots to this sig stealing imposter.

[kamesan]

'Bis carries a thesaurus with him everytime he spits. :o :up:
The problem w/ Can-I-Bus is that he over-intellectualizes his lyrics. I have no problem w/ that cuz I listen to sxxx like Ras Kass, but for the average mainstream idiot, it's going to confuse them. The reason he doesn't get any mainstream props is because he's too didactic.

[terry78]

The problem w/ Can-I-Bus is that he over-intellectualizes his lyrics. I have no problem w/ that cuz I listen to sxxx like Ras Kass, but for the average mainstream idiot, it's going to confuse them. The reason he doesn't get any mainstream props is because he's too didactic.
That's sad. I put on M.O.P.'s latest in the car with my little cousin, and he was like, "what are u listening to, rock?" Because most of their songs have guitar riffs in the background, and he's used to that processed sampled **** that the mainstream radios play.

[Super_Ludacris]

Rass Kass is nice with his. I think he got an EP that dropped recently but I can't find it

[Super_Ludacris]

That's sad. I put on M.O.P.'s latest in the car with my little cousin, and he was like, "what are u listening to, rock?" Because most of their songs have guitar riffs in the background, and he's used to that processed sampled **** that the mainstream radios play.


Lil Fame and Billy Danze need Primo on the beats. Shoot, they basically need the whole D&D studio! They sounded whack on Roc-a-fella and the G-Unit mixtape ish aint bumping

[terry78]

You heard anything off of AZ's new one? Still trying to sound like Nas. :p


http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0007VZ92G.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[Super_Ludacris]

Yeah it's an Ill album. AZ's nice. Not as good as his AZiatic LP.

I checked out Little Brother's new album and it's dope. There's a lot of talk going about how XXL were gonna give them a "XXL" and the Source was gonna give them 4.5 Mics. But Benzino said no at the source (apperantly Lil' Kim's **** got 5 mics and Zino reduced LB's album to 4 mics saying Young Jeezy deserved more. As a result the Source Editor walked out). As for XXL they were worried about giving an underground that high a rating, so they gave there sister publication Scratch (A more undergorund/beatmaker orientated mag) the review and Scratch gave it 10/10.
Don't Sleep on Little Brother's Minstrel Show when it drops on the 12th. Them dudes have been dropping some great music the last 2 years (Plus, there first album the Listening is a classic)

[jaydawg]

I was watching TRL a couple minutes ago, and it showed a clip of Kayne West and Mike Myers at a relief fund program.... anyone else see it? Kayne was hella harsh, especially when he said "Bush hates black people." Damn, that was emotional.

[Super_Ludacris]

I was watching TRL a couple minutes ago, and it showed a clip of Kayne West and Mike Myers at a relief fund program.... anyone else see it? Kayne was hella harsh, especially when he said "Bush hates black people." Damn, that was emotional.


Welcome to 2 days ago when the world was going nuts after him saying that

[kamesan]

Yeah, they have a thread on it somewhere in the SHH Community Forum. I've already commented on it, but I will say that Kanye is gonna catch a lot of flack on that.

P.S. I hope that Jin gets a chance to make a serious album w/out all that A&R'ing B.S.

[The Kingpin]

I think Jin's new ablum is going to be hot...go to www.theemcee.com and check out his singles.

[Super_Ludacris]

SMH@ people talking about Jin than Little Brother

y'all lost for real

[kamesan]

SMH@ people talking about Jin than Little Brother

y'all lost for real:confused: Please elaborate.

[Super_Ludacris]

As in Little Brother are the most talked about Hip Hop group and they dropping another classic LP and people still on that Jin (aka Yao Ming and Canibus' lovechild). Everybody on all Hip Hop forums and underground fans talking about the LB. They producer 9th Wonder did some stuff on Jay-Z's Black Album and Nas' God Son. His style is on some Pete Rock meets Kanye ish

[kamesan]

:o Sumimasen

I have to hear one of thse songs for myself. There isn't that big of a "Hip-Hop Connection" where i'm @ though.http://superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[spider-jide]

I thought Jin quit the game, wtf?

[terry78]

He changed his mind. That dude doesn't know what he wants. If he wants to be the first mainstream asian rapper, he's got a lot of work to do now.

[The Ether]

You heard anything off of AZ's new one? Still trying to sound like Nas.
The guy has his own style and raps better than all of these mainstream rappers put together. AWOL is fire and I find it better than Aziatic. Nas is a incredible rapper and he's my all time favourite but I don't find AZ copying Nas, his style is more similar to Kool G Rap.

[Super_Ludacris]

The guy has his own style and raps better than all of these mainstream rappers put together. AWOL is fire and I find it better than Aziatic. Nas is a incredible rapper and he's my all time favourite but I don't find AZ copying Nas, his style is more similar to Kool G Rap.


Agreed,

AZ when he wants can be a little more diverese. ironically back in 95 people used to say Jigga was a AZ clone. I similarites in AZ and Early Jay-Z (Circa 94-2000) than I do Nas

[spider-jide]

The guy has his own style and raps better than all of these mainstream rappers put together. AWOL is fire and I find it better than Aziatic. Nas is a incredible rapper and he's my all time favourite but I don't find AZ copying Nas, his style is more similar to Kool G Rap.

I agree. AZ has always been, well....AZ. Dude is definately nice.

[spider-jide]

Has anyone heard Loon's mase diss and G-unit's 300 shots fet mase?? Wtf is mase doing. I used to defend the guy but Cam was right about that n1gga.

[Super_Ludacris]

Has anyone heard Loon's mase diss and G-unit's 300 shots fet mase?? Wtf is mase doing. I used to defend the guy but Cam was right about that n1gga.


Like 2 years on the Loon diss and Last week on the 300 shots. As far as Cam, he can't talk cause he squashed the Beef with Mason and now giving him props. SMH@ both of those Harlem Hermafrodites