The Hip Hop Thread

[Colossal Spoons]

LOVING Luda's new album. Only 4 songs in and I like it tons more than 808 :up:

Luda needed this too, Release Therapy made my ears bleed :down:

[Manic]

I just got Ludacris and Q-Tip (and unrelated, but I also just got John Legend) all in one fell swoop, and this has been the most musically glorious day I've had in a long time.

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, I need to listen to Q-Tip's more. I got it and only got around to the singles :O

[terry78]

My dad said Weezy sound like he be crying on all his songs. And I agree. Like straight whining, that voice is just grating.

[kamesan]

My dad said Weezy sound like he be crying on all his songs. And I agree. Like straight whining, that voice is just grating.
co-sign

[RockSP]

And most of them could actually make the argument.

Weezy? Not so much.

Mmm...not really. It's just a braggadocious thing to say...not to be taken too seriously.

[RockSP]

Wierdest hip-hop related news I've heard in a while...John Forte pardoned by G.W. Bush.

[Colossal Spoons]

Wow

[KenK]

I know, right?!? It was weird enough when the story of him getting arrested in the first place broke, and I found out he was like a family friend of Carly Simon!! You know W. probably thought, "I better do this before Obama thinks to do it! Earn me so cool points before I leave office!"

[Manic]

Wierdest hip-hop related news I've heard in a while...John Forte pardoned by G.W. Bush.
Believe it or not, I actually spat out part of my food when I read that. :wow:
I know, right?!? It was weird enough when the story of him getting arrested in the first place broke, and I found out he was like a family friend of Carly Simon!! You know W. probably thought, "I better do this before Obama thinks to do it! Earn me so cool points before I leave office!"
Don't forget to end it with "heh heh." Bush laughs like one half of Beavis & Butthead.

[terry78]

Dubya - Down 4 whateva, givin' them haters them salty looks.

[Julio Alejandro]

Kanye might be killing his credibilty.

[Colossal Spoons]

He don't care lol

[knowsbleed]

Haha, I need to listen to Q-Tip's more. I got it and only got around to the singles :O

I'll take Q-Tip's album over 'Ye's... The Renaissance is a breath of fresh air.

Luda's is okay... a few nice tracks and definitely better than Release Therapy... but that's not saying much.

[Dr. Manhatten]

Hey if anyone's interested, I recently directed a hip hop music video for a Bay Area artist. Let me know what you think :)

http://www.vimeo.com/2335691

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QWPyEJIvPI

[Neptune]

Exactly. It's like believing Jay is really some huge drug dealer or 50 Cent actually has beef with everybody under the sun. It garners attention and sells records. Anyone who believes it's real is naive.




Every other rapper in the history of the game has said that. Especially back when talent actually mattered...

Jay-z was a (big) drug dealer, Just listen to Reasonable doubt. He raps about it realisticly on that album. Of course not every single word is true but i believe most of what he said on Reasonable doubt.

[citizenpain]

Exactly. It's like believing Jay is really some huge drug dealer or 50 Cent actually has beef with everybody under the sun. It garners attention and sells records. Anyone who believes it's real is naive.

Every other rapper in the history of the game has said that. Especially back when talent actually mattered...

Jay-z was a (big) drug dealer, Just listen to Reasonable doubt. He raps about it realisticly on that album. Of course not every single word is true but i believe most of what he said on Reasonable doubt.

...and 50 does have beef with everybody, there's a lotta people out there who straight up hate that dude and wish death upon him.

every rapper in the history of the game has claimed to be the ****, but it's one thing to say that, and another to say you're jimi hendrix and kurt cobain and michael jordan and jesus christ all rolled into one. even the beatles got **** on for saying they're bigger than jesus, and they were the ****ing beatles!

of course kanye's ego is a part of his act, but that doesn't mean he's not really the self-centered douche he makes himself out to be.

[Manic]

Come to think of it, it's not like we see Kanye with a whole bunch of friends all the time. Has anyone ever seen him with an entourage of his closest friends?

[Colossal Spoons]

Diddy manages to keep friends. Kanye can do it :o

[Manic]

I've seen enough TV to know that half of Puffy's entourage consists of reality/game show contestants.

[terry78]

Diddy basically hired Danity Kane to be his arm candy.

[PyroChamber]

Diddy basically hired Danity Kane to be his arm candy.And look what happened to them, or at least happened to two of them.

[Manic]

What happened to Danity Kane?

[Colossal Spoons]

It's down to 3 chicks now

[Manic]

And yet another band breaks up. Surprise surprise.

I hope Puff learned his lesson about manufacturing bands through televised contests. You don't grab a bunch of strangers, put them in direct competition with one another, then select the handful you like most and expect them to click just because they happen to be the most talented. It didn't work for Da Band, and now 2/3 of Danity Kane are gone.

[Crook]

Two-fifth's, actually. :p

[Manic]

That was clearly a typo.

[Superman4ever]

Has anyone heard Immortal Technique's new album The 3rd World. Simply amazing! It's revolutionary. The 4th Branch, is simply amazing.

iljLa-Ie81U

Jedi Mind Tricks are great too (I just discovered them and I'm blown away).

[Superman4ever]

Here's Immortal Technique with Jedi Mind Tricks:

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[citizenpain]

Has anyone heard Immortal Technique's new album The 3rd World. Simply amazing! It's revolutionary. The 4th Branch, is simply amazing.

iljLa-Ie81U

Jedi Mind Tricks are great too (I just discovered them and I'm blown away).

the 3rd world is really good. technique has always been amazing but he's really come a long way. his lyrics were always hot but his flow has improved quite a bit and his beats have gotten more professional as he's gained more recognition and the help of green lantern for this album.

the whole thing is pretty solid, but my fave tracks are:
+ death march
+ that's what it is
+ the 4th branch
+ mistakes

[Superman4ever]

the 3rd world is really good. technique has always been amazing but he's really come a long way. his lyrics were always hot but his flow has improved quite a bit and his beats have gotten more professional as he's gained more recognition and the help of green lantern for this album.

the whole thing is pretty solid, but my fave tracks are:
+ death march
+ that's what it is
+ the 4th branch
+ mistakes

^^ Hell yeah (but 4th Branch is from Revolution Vol. 2), but that was my bad, I posted it earlier. Mistake is really good.

I think 3rd World debuted at #99 on the billboard charts which is bad ass for a independent.

To add to your list I really like "3rd World", "Hollywood Drive by" and "Harlem Renaissance."

[citizenpain]

^^ Hell yeah (but 4th Branch is from Revolution Vol. 2), but that was my bad, I posted it earlier. Mistake is really good.

I think 3rd World debuted at #99 on the billboard charts which is bad ass for a independent.

To add to your list I really like "3rd World", "Hollywood Drive by" and "Harlem Renaissance."

ha, you're right. i mixed up "the 4th branch" with "the 3rd world."

[RockSP]

Jay-z was a (big) drug dealer, Just listen to Reasonable doubt. He raps about it realisticly on that album. Of course not every single word is true but i believe most of what he said on Reasonable doubt.

Then you are one of the naive people I was talking about. I'm not saying he never dealt drugs but that doesn't make him some over the top kingpin.

...and 50 does have beef with everybody, there's a lotta people out there who straight up hate that dude and wish death upon him.

Heh heh. I hope you guys are teenagers. That would be the only excuse for believing an entertainer's hype. 50's "beefs" are ridiculously transparent.

[Cmill216]

Jay-z was a (big) drug dealer, Just listen to Reasonable doubt.

Hahaha. Come on, son.

That's like saying, "Dre and Big Boi are from outer space. Just listen to ATLiens."

[citizenpain]

Heh heh. I hope you guys are teenagers. That would be the only excuse for believing an entertainer's hype. 50's "beefs" are ridiculously transparent.

no, i'm not a teenager. i'm not talking about his beef with the game or any commercial crap. have you ever seen the beef documentaries? there's one about 50 and his old crew and they all hate him and used to go to his shows to **** with him. that's what i was referring to.

[Manic]

Well, as long as you weren't referring to the "beefs" he had with The Game, Ja Rule, Kanye West, Lil Wayne, Ashford, Simpson, Cool, The Gang, Bobby, Ronnie, Ricky, Mike, and Mrs. Butterworth...

[Crook]

To be fair, the Ja Rule one was a lot more personal than those other fabricated bouts.

[terry78]

The beefs most of these *****s be having are about as real as the WWE and the TNA. Occasionally a real one slips through, but for the most part....nah.

[Julio Alejandro]

Go to www.zune.net and download the software. You can purchase the 808s & Heartbreak and Theater of the Mind for $.99 each.

[Colossal Spoons]

To be fair, the Ja Rule one was a lot more personal than those other fabricated bouts.

Yeah, that's the only one I could believe was real.

The beefs most of these *****s be having are about as real as the WWE and the TNA. Occasionally a real one slips through, but for the most part....nah.

I'm pretty sure Eminem really would strangle Benzino if he ever saw him.

[RockSP]

A belated R.I.P. to MC Breed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4rd7vM56BU

[PyroChamber]

To be fair, the Ja Rule one was a lot more personal than those other fabricated bouts.I didn't like how when that thing between him and 50 started, all of a sudden everyone just started turning on Ja and hating on him.

Also, what's everyone think of that "Swagger Like Us" song?

[Manic]

Wasn't Ja Rule the one who started taking things too far by dissing everyone from Busta Rhymes to Betty Crocker?

[CrypticOne]

Has anyone heard Immortal Technique's new album The 3rd World. Simply amazing! It's revolutionary. The 4th Branch, is simply amazing.

iljLa-Ie81U

Jedi Mind Tricks are great too (I just discovered them and I'm blown away).

Yeah, Immortal Technique and JMT are two of my favorite hip hop acts. They're great. You check out JMT's new album?

[Tigerking]

Wasn't Ja Rule the one who started taking things too far by dissing everyone from Busta Rhymes to Betty Crocker?

Basically the entire Aftermath and Co people. They basically ended his career

[Fanticon]

Illa J (younger brother to the late J-Dilla) just released Yancey Boys....and it really was one he might have been able to hit out of the park with Jay Dee's beats but it kinda falls flat on its face...he's got a long way to go as a lyricist and vocalist to carry on the tradition and legacy Dilla left behind.

[CrypticOne]

Anyone recommend the new Akon?

[Lpilgrim]

has anyone else in here checked out blue sky black death? they're a production team from SF. they've done production for a lotta dudes. jedi mind tricks, lil sci, guru, heiro, jean grae, awol one, hell razah, etc. the quality of their production is extremely well done and very dense with a mixture of sampling and live instrumentation. if you get a chance, pick up their first album called 'a heap of broken images'. its a double album with the first being some of the sickest downtempo stuff ive heard in a long while, and the second half featuring a slew of emcees.

[Julio Alejandro]

Illa J (younger brother to the late J-Dilla) just released Yancey Boys....and it really was one he might have been able to hit out of the park with Jay Dee's beats but it kinda falls flat on its face...he's got a long way to go as a lyricist and vocalist to carry on the tradition and legacy Dilla left behind.
Black Milk does a good job though.

[Julio Alejandro]

Anyone recommend the new Akon?
Zune is selling it for $.99 tomorrow.

[RockSP]

Anyone recommend the new Akon?

Nope. Not a fan.

Also, this is a "hip-hop" thread...

[SouLeSS]

Go to www.zune.net and download the software. You can purchase the 808s & Heartbreak and Theater of the Mind for $.99 each.

It's not worth even that much.

[Neptune]

Black Milk does a good job though.

Definitely. You heard his new album? I can't stop listening to "Overdose".

[citizenpain]

Anyone recommend the new Akon?

:shock

[chamber-music]

I like the crooks remix of Kid Cudi. I saw him as one the opening acts on Kanyes tour and I might check out his album when it drops.

[Julio Alejandro]

Nope. Not a fan.

Also, this is a "hip-hop" thread...
Yeah, I took a quick listen. It actually is more of a Euro-pop-sounding album.

[Julio Alejandro]

It's not worth even that much.
TOTM is.

[Julio Alejandro]

Definitely. You heard his new album? I can't stop listening to "Overdose".
I listen to anything he does.

[Superman4ever]

Yeah, Immortal Technique and JMT are two of my favorite hip hop acts. They're great. You check out JMT's new album?

I nearly got it memorized. :O

That and Servants in Heaven, Kings in Hell. The intro to Servants...is simply amazing and sets the tone for the whole album. I'm having so much trouble choosing a favorite track.

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Vinnie Paz is unreal.

[Colossal Spoons]

Jay-Z "Brooklyn We Go Hard"

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Really lookin 4ward to this Notorious soundtrack :up:

[citizenpain]

Jay-Z "Brooklyn We Go Hard"

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Really lookin 4ward to this Notorious soundtrack :up:

****in sweet!

[knowsbleed]

I'm really liking what I've heard so far with Hova's new stuff. But what's with the M.I.A./Santogold connects? Not that they don't sound fresh... just wondering why the sudden exposure?

[Superman4ever]

Jay-Z "Brooklyn We Go Hard"

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Really lookin 4ward to this Notorious soundtrack :up:

Woo! Sounds great! :applaud

The beginning with Santogold's "Brooklyn" has a 2001 Space Odyssey feel to it.

[Colossal Spoons]

Wish that song were on BP3 too, but w/e :up:

[knowsbleed]

So I just listened to Common's new album. It's different. Not as different as Electric Circus was... but methinks Pharrell definitely went a little overboard with the futuristic beats. Damn 'Ye and Pharrell, Common needs to hook up with ?uestlove and Jay Dee again... I'm tired of this unsoulful Common. :cmad:

[Cmill216]

So I just listened to Common's new album. It's different. Not as different as Electric Circus was... but methinks Pharrell definitely went a little overboard with the futuristic beats. Damn 'Ye and Pharrell, Common needs to hook up with ?uestlove and Jay Dee again... I'm tired of this unsoulful Common. :cmad:

I gotta be honest. It's a pretty friggin' awful album.

It's just too busy. And it's the type of record Common has no business making. It doesn't suit him whatsoever.

[Golgo-13]

I think Common is MORE focused on his acting career than his music these days....

[Manic]

It happens to every music performer who gets into acting and becomes even slightly successful at it. They realize they can make more money from filming movies than they can from recording albums. With music, he has to write everything, work directly with producers, rent out studio space and duke out cash for promotions, ect. In the end, if your CD sells 1,000,000 copies, you'll be left with the yearly earnings of a McDonalds fry-cook.

OR you get to memorize no more than a couple of hours worth of dialogue, fake a few emotions, and do whatever a dude sitting in a fold-up chair tells you for a couple of months, and you've got yourself enough money for a new car from making a single movie.

It's the reason why Ice Cube only records new CDs once every 5 years, Ashanti stopped "singing," and LL Cool J hasn't really tried since releasing 1995's Mr. Smith. You can actually watch LL's music to acting ratio switch around, depending on how popular his movies are. Deep Blue Sea was a fun movie, but "Deepest, Bluest" was a piece of crap.

[Manic]

Double-post of death!

[Colossal Spoons]

W/e y'all, I like UMC :o

[Julio Alejandro]

So I just listened to Common's new album. It's different. Not as different as Electric Circus was... but methinks Pharrell definitely went a little overboard with the futuristic beats. Damn 'Ye and Pharrell, Common needs to hook up with ?uestlove and Jay Dee again... I'm tired of this unsoulful Common. :cmad:
1. I think it's a great album.
2. The Neptunes did just right.
3. I regretfully have to relay that Jay Dee passed away almost 3 years ago. One of my favorites ever! God rest his soul.

[Cmill216]

Grammy Nominations:

Best Rap Album

* American Gangster
Jay-Z
[Roc-A-Fella]

* Tha Carter III
Lil Wayne
[Cash Money/Universal Motown]

* The Cool
Lupe Fiasco
[1st & 15th/Atlantic]

* Untitled
Nas
[Def Jam]

* Paper Trail
T.I.
[Grand Hustle/Atlantic]


Best Rap Song

* Lollipop

* Low

* Sexual Eruption

* Superstar

* Swagga Like Us


Best Rap Solo Performance

* Roc Boys (And The Winner Is)...
Jay-Z

* A Milli
Lil Wayne

* Paris, Tokyo
Lupe Fiasco

* N.i.*.*.e.r. (The Slave And The Master)
Nas

* Sexual Eruption
Snoop Dogg


And.... Tha Carter III was nominated for overall Album of the Year.

[knowsbleed]

3. I regretfully have to relay that Jay Dee passed away almost 3 years ago. One of my favorites ever! God rest his soul.

Oh man... how could I forget that?

And.... Tha Carter III was nominated for overall Album of the Year.

That's sad...

... not as sad as Crank Dat being nominated last year but still sad IMO.

[Colossal Spoons]

Grammy Nominations:

Best Rap Album



* The Cool
Lupe Fiasco
[1st & 15th/Atlantic]



Best Rap Song



* Swagga Like Us


Best Rap Solo Performance

* Roc Boys (And The Winner Is)...
Jay-Z



:up:

[Cmill216]

That's sad...

... not as sad as Crank Dat being nominated last year but still sad IMO.

I actually liked Tha Carter III. It's a solid album.

.....Seriously.

But one of the five best albums of the year? In all of music? That's some 'ol bull****.

[Colossal Spoons]

The world couldn't be on Weezy's nuts any harder.

[Cmill216]

Out of those nominees:

I would take American Gangster for album, Superstar for Best Song, and Sexual Eruption for Best Solo Performance.

I mean, Snoop made Auto Tune tolerable. He deserves something.

[Crook]

Snoop Dogg doesn't deserve crap from that song. I can't believe it even got nominated. I'm gonna have to throw my vote for "A Milli" in this category. EVERYONE was riding on that joint, and Wayne pulled off a decent flow (at least in the beginning).

[Colossal Spoons]

Snoop deserves a retirement package :o

[Cmill216]

Snoop Dogg doesn't deserve crap from that song. I can't believe it even got nominated.

No, no, no, no, no.

You CANNOT hate on "Sexual Eruption/Seduction". :cmad:

You just can't.

[knowsbleed]

I'm gonna have to throw my vote for "A Milli" in this category. EVERYONE was riding on that joint, and Wayne pulled off a decent flow (at least in the beginning).

EVERYONE was riding on Soulja Boy's nutz last year... doesn't make it a deserving song.

No, no, no, no, no.

You CANNOT hate on "Sexual Eruption/Seduction". :cmad:

You just can't.

Agreed.

[Crook]

I'm sorry, but he damn near lost his OG status with that stunt. Even he knew the only way to make a vid about the song, was to make fun of it. He knew damn well he was corny for swagger-jacking T-Pain. :o

[Crook]

EVERYONE was riding on Soulja Boy's nutz last year... doesn't make it a deserving song.
I'm not a huge fan of the song either, but it'd be foolish to ignore such a massive hit for the genre and insertion into pop culture. Categorically speaking, Crank Dat did deserve to be nominated.

[Cmill216]

I'm sorry, but he damn near lost his OG status with that stunt. Even he knew the only way to make a vid about the song, was to make fun of it. He knew damn well he was corny for swagger-jacking T-Pain. :o

But if you outdo the person you jacked it from, who cares? IMO, he out T-Pained T-Pain, and turned that ish into a retro space funk jam.

Granted, I'm more fond of the video than I am the song, but that track was gold.

And Snoop lost his OG status when he started doing sketch comedy for MTV.

[Manic]

Grammy Nominations:

Best Rap Album

* American Gangster
Jay-Z
[Roc-A-Fella]

* Tha Carter III
Lil Wayne
[Cash Money/Universal Motown]

* The Cool
Lupe Fiasco
[1st & 15th/Atlantic]

* Untitled
Nas
[Def Jam]

* Paper Trail
T.I.
[Grand Hustle/Atlantic]


Best Rap Song

* Lollipop

* Low

* Sexual Eruption

* Superstar

* Swagga Like Us


Best Rap Solo Performance

* Roc Boys (And The Winner Is)...
Jay-Z

* A Milli
Lil Wayne

* Paris, Tokyo
Lupe Fiasco

* N.i.*.*.e.r. (The Slave And The Master)
Nas

* Sexual Eruption
Snoop Dogg


And.... Tha Carter III was nominated for overall Album of the Year.
Those nomination lists sum up perfectly why I can barely listen to the radio these days.

[Colossal Spoons]

What's wrong with the songs on that list? There's not a single ridiculous nomination there.

[Manic]

Lollipop?

[Colossal Spoons]

Hoes were all over that song

[Manic]

But does that make it potentially the best rap song of 2008?

[Lighthouse]

Wasn't sure which thread to put this in. Its.....wonderful.

21OH0wlkfbc

[Colossal Spoons]

It does when you consider all the people who listen to hip hop. White girls in suburbia deserve to be heard too.

[Julio Alejandro]

Oh man... how could I forget that?



That's sad...
So you actually knew?

[Manic]

It does when you consider all the people who listen to hip hop. White girls in suburbia deserve to be heard too.
If I was to pour syrup over a shoe, would you call it a pancake? Even if a large number of people told you it was a pancake?

[knowsbleed]

So you actually knew?

Yes, I just forgot... I know, I live in the past though. And to tell you the truth... I didn't follow Slum Village too much. I liked his prior production stuff and his work on Like Water For Chocolate.

[Colossal Spoons]

If I was to pour syrup over a shoe, would you call it a pancake? Even if a large number of people told you it was a pancake?

Groupthink sucka!

and I don't mean it's a good song but if enough people liked it, it at least deserves consideration/nomination

[The Original Bamfer]

I'm hip and I hop.

[Ace of Knaves]

EVERYONE was riding on Soulja Boy's nutz last year... doesn't make it a deserving song.



Agreed.

I'm not a huge fan of the song either, but it'd be foolish to ignore such a massive hit for the genre and insertion into pop culture. Categorically speaking, Crank Dat did deserve to be nominated.


The only thin soulja boy deserves is a slow and horrendous death.

Weezy can actually flow, he's not brilliant though. I class him as a pop star not a rap star. He is just "playing" gangstar!

Hahaha you see that i can rhyme too!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Ace of Knaves]

Grammy Nominations:

Best Rap Album

* American Gangster
Jay-Z
[Roc-A-Fella]

* Tha Carter III
Lil Wayne
[Cash Money/Universal Motown]

* The Cool
Lupe Fiasco
[1st & 15th/Atlantic]

* Untitled
Nas
[Def Jam]

* Paper Trail
T.I.
[Grand Hustle/Atlantic]


Best Rap Song

* Lollipop

* Low

* Sexual Eruption

* Superstar

* Swagga Like Us


Best Rap Solo Performance

* Roc Boys (And The Winner Is)...
Jay-Z

* A Milli
Lil Wayne

* Paris, Tokyo
Lupe Fiasco

* N.i.*.*.e.r. (The Slave And The Master)
Nas

* Sexual Eruption
Snoop Dogg


And.... Tha Carter III was nominated for overall Album of the Year.

This is why i don't listen to any new hip hop. It's just all pop music with no real meaning or soul. Lupe is the boy, Snoop is a legend even though he's now gone pop. But T.I and Lil Wayne? They are the definition of what is wrong with hip hop today, for me at least. They don't give a toss about the music, they just wanna pretend they are gangsters and all that crap. Real gangsters wouldn't be telling everyone that they are gangsters would they? :whatever:

[Manic]

I could've been a rapper, but I didn't have the ties.


*rimshot*

*hold for applause*




...





:csad:

[Ace of Knaves]

I could've been a rapper, but I didn't have the ties.


*rimshot*

*hold for applause*




...





:csad:

:applaud

I have MC'd and DJ'd on the radio a couple of times. Mostly to Drum n Bass and Grime/Garage though.

[chamber-music]

I hope Lupe wins them all

[Ace of Knaves]

I hope Lupe wins them all

Yea. IMO he is the only real artist out of all them.

[Colossal Spoons]

No way Jay doesn't deserve at least one of them.

[chamber-music]

Jay's got tons of grammys I'm sure. Let one of the young guns win one, plus Jay has been talking up Lupe and produced Food and Liqoiur so I doubt he would be too upset.

[Crook]

This is why i don't listen to any new hip hop. It's just all pop music with no real meaning or soul. Lupe is the boy, Snoop is a legend even though he's now gone pop. But T.I and Lil Wayne? They are the definition of what is wrong with hip hop today, for me at least. They don't give a toss about the music, they just wanna pretend they are gangsters and all that crap. Real gangsters wouldn't be telling everyone that they are gangsters would they? :whatever:

I got love for the game but ay, I'm not in love with all of it,
Could do without the fame and the rappers nowadays are comedy.
The hootin' and the hollerin', back and forth with the arguing,
Where you from, who you know, what you make and what kind of car you in.
Seems as though you lost sight of what's important with the positive,
And checks into your bank account, and you up out of poverty.
Your values is a disarray, prioritizing horribly.
Unhappy with the riches cause you piss poor morally.
Ignoring all prior advice and forewarning,
And we mighty full of ourselves all of a sudden, aren't we?

Do you co-sign this verse? :up:

Jay's got tons of grammys I'm sure. Let one of the young guns win one, plus Jay has been talking up Lupe and produced Food and Liqoiur so I doubt he would be too upset.
That's playing politics. Shouldn't matter if a nominee has however many previous Grammy's. The person who did best in their category deserves it. Period.

I'm gonna have to say that album-wise, American Gangster was a stronger effort that The Coolest.

[Colossal Spoons]

Seriously, this ain't no "Pass the torch" awards show. Hov was in the studio workin hard just like Lupe and Weezy.

[knowsbleed]

The Cool > American Gangster

Though I'm predicting Blueprint 3 will blow LupEnd out of the water.

[Julio Alejandro]

American Gangster was much better than The Cool. As a matter of fact, Food & Liquor was better.

[Warhammer]

I love Food & Liquor more than The Cool. Lyrically, The Cool was better, but the lyrics coupled with the beats in Food & Liquor made it better for me.

With that said, the Grammy nominations for Best Rap Album are solid this year aside from Tha Carter III (weakest of the nominations for me, by far). I hope that either Jay-Z or Lupe Fiasco win those awards.

[Julio Alejandro]

American Gangster should win it.

[Cmill216]

I just can't for the life of me imagine that an entire academy of well-respected, knowledgeable music snobs could actually believe that Tha Carter III is one of the five best achievements in music this year.

[Manic]

Well-respected? I thought the Grammys lost their respect circa Milli Vanilli.

[thedeadite]

I just got into Pumpkinhead recently.
I only have the album "machete music" right now.
Anyone know if he has any more? or has ever heard of him?

ps. found out about him through an immortal technique song.

[Cmill216]

Well-respected? I thought the Grammys lost their respect circa Milli Vanilli.

People still take them seriously, though.

Then again, after the debacle last year with Herbie Hancock winning Album of the Year for an album no one had even heard of, I do find that increasingly harder to believe.

[Colossal Spoons]

I think I'd watch the Source awards before the Grammys to be honest :o

[Cmill216]

I think I'd watch the Source awards before the Grammys to be honest :o

I tend to agree. While with the Grammys, you get a little more diversity with all the genres that are highlighted throughout the night, the Source awards provide you with something you can't get at any other awards show:

The potential for violence.

[Colossal Spoons]

F'in right. Not as tacky as the Vibe awards though

[chamber-music]

I never got why Kanye got mad about not winning some MTV awards. Who remembers who wins MTV awards anyway, its not like they say 'multi-MTV award winning artist' about anyone who wins one.

At his recent show he went on a rant about Britney didn't deserve to win over Rihanna which is probabley true but who the hell cares anyway.

[Scarlet spidey]

Video's meh.
But the song is wonderful.:)
bV_E8SPc_jo

[Cmill216]

Just picked up the Maroon 5 remix album.

And all I can say is.....ill.

[SouLeSS]

Ya know what pisses me off? Anywhere you look for Kanye's ****, like in EW, or most interviews or stories on him, it goes off about how "hard he's had it" this year.

**** that, the dude doesn't know hard. He's rich out his ass, I don't give a **** if his fiance left him and his mom died, he doesn't "have it hard".

It's ****ing ridiculous how most of these mainstream rappers claim they have it so hard when they clearly don't.

[Crook]

It's pretty foolish to assume riches means an easygoing life. If anything, it is quite the opposite. The more you have, the more you have to maintain, the more you have to balance, and the more you have to lose.

[Cmill216]

Money doesn't take away the pain of losing your mother.

[terry78]

Money doesn't take away the pain of losing your mother.

Except for those who claim they never keep in touch with their families.

[Manic]

No one's going to say the obvious? Really? Okay, I got this one.


Mo' money, mo' problems.

[Crook]

No one's going to say the obvious? Really? Okay, I got this one.


Mo' money, mo' problems.
No one wanted to say because it's such an overused statement in the genre.

But you've ruined that now, haven't you? :cmad:

[Manic]

Manic: Ruiner of Things :up:

[M.O.Steel]

there's this song, i can't remember...had a lot of words liek fire and heat and blaze...very recent song. does anyone have any idea what i'm talking about?

dammit i need that ipone tag thingy.

[Julio Alejandro]

It's pretty foolish to assume riches means an easygoing life. If anything, it is quite the opposite. The more you have, the more you have to maintain, the more you have to balance, and the more you have to lose.
Contrary to what he would like you to believe, Kanye had a very good upbringing.

[Crook]

That has nothing to do with his life now. :huh:

[Julio Alejandro]

My point was, Kanye has never had to deal with anything bad until now.

[Manic]

After making the song "Spaceship," Kanye doesn't get to complain about how hard his life has been.

[Crook]

My point was, Kanye has never had to deal with anything bad until now.
Well, that's a bit obnoxious. Everyone has went through hardships. He was dirt-poor and still living with his mom, trying to make beats for money. I'm sure for any grown man that's gotta suck.

After making the song "Spaceship," Kanye doesn't get to complain about how hard his life has been.
That's an ill-ass song. That's like the labor worker's anthem.

[Manic]

I actually liked "Spaceship." I'm just saying that it's a song about how he hated working at The Gap.

[chamber-music]

Kanyes an ass but I would still rather listen to people like him and Lupe, Mos Def, Talib ect over some rapper who has a 12 track album of how many drugs he sold when he was a teenager regardless of if that was their background.

[Cmill216]

Why the SOHH Forums are the best thing on the internet:


you know alternative music is a good escape from this brainless noise we call rap today..I mean i cut the radio off and shook my head in disgust today.. Rap just isnt the same.. But this ish is dope.. I kinda wanna hear that new Nickleback.. has anybody heard it ?

[RockSP]

Jay's got tons of grammys I'm sure. Let one of the young guns win one, plus Jay has been talking up Lupe and produced Food and Liqoiur so I doubt he would be too upset.

Jay-Z was an executive producer. Basically he allowed them to put his name on the back of the cd package.

[knowsbleed]

I can't get TI's numanuma song out of my head. :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

I need to get that song out of my iPod :o

[Cmill216]

Have we discussed the awfulness of UMC in here yet, or am I still blinded by its awfulness?

[knowsbleed]

That Wiz Khalifa song is rattling around up there too... though not as annoying as numa numa.

[knowsbleed]

Have we discussed the awfulness of UMC in here yet, or am I still blinded by its awfulness?

UMC is a blackmark[/notracist] in his discography. What the hell was the man thinking??

[Colossal Spoons]

I like the 3 singles(UMC, Gladiator, and Announcement)

First Common CD I ever bought too lol

[knowsbleed]

That's a shame dammit[/likewaterforchocolate]

[Cmill216]

I swear to God it's like Pharrell's been on auto pilot since Hell Hath No Fury. He even had the nerve to slap together the worst ****ing track on the Maroon 5 remix album.

But Common has no excuse. Dude needs to get off this trippy, "I'm an actor so let me expand my horizon's musically" phase and get back to doing the soulful ish that made him who he was in the first place. I'm all for artists trying new things, but not when the results are this tragic.

[Colossal Spoons]

Kanye is still the reigning champ in the "Failing at trying new things" department. He beat Jay for making Beach Chair :o

[knowsbleed]

i miss the soulaquarians. :csad:

[Neto Magnus]

anyone know when Swift & Changeable is coming out????

[RockSP]

HaHaHaHa!!!!!!!!! Hip-hop started in Scotland, not the Bronx:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/3998862/Rap-music-originated-in-medieval-Scottish-pubs-claims-American-professor.html :whatever::whatever:

[terry78]

HaHaHaHa!!!!!!!!! Hip-hop started in Scotland, not the Bronx:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/3998862/Rap-music-originated-in-medieval-Scottish-pubs-claims-American-professor.html :whatever::whatever:

Get that ******** outta here.


So I guess House of Pain are the original heirs to the throne if that article is accurate.

[RockSP]

It's about as accurate as Elvis inventing rock & roll...

[Manic]

Get that ******** outta here.


So I guess House of Pain are the original heirs to the throne if that article is accurate.
Article: Scottish
House of Pain: Irish


I wouldn't be surprised if the article was right, although it'd have to be through some vague level of cultural osmosis (where people learn traditions without knowing). The medieval Scots had a tradition where two men would trade insults, and the tradition gets passed down to American cultural. Thus, when rap is invented, that back-and-forth insult thing is adapted, and rap battles are born.

The article doesn't claim rap was invented in Scotland. Just verbal battles.

[chamber-music]

The Scots would battle rap and then do a drive by on the English before tucking into some Haggis and deep fried mars bars

[terry78]

The Scots would battle rap and then do a drive by on the English before tucking into some Haggis and deep fried mars bars

It would go like the singing battle Peter Griffin had with his estranged father.

[Manic]

It would go like the singing battle Peter Griffin had with his estranged father.
Dude.

Irish. Scottish.

[terry78]

Dude.

Irish. Scottish.

They all look alike. I ain't got time to be differentiatin' and ****. :o


:oldrazz:

[chamber-music]

They all look alike. :o


:oldrazz:

Its the Celtic thing. Scottish, Irish, Welsh, ect

The Irish will insult you and then laugh about, The Scottish will insult you and then punch you in the face

[RockSP]

I wouldn't be surprised if the article was right, although it'd have to be through some vague level of cultural osmosis (where people learn traditions without knowing). The medieval Scots had a tradition where two men would trade insults, and the tradition gets passed down to American cultural. Thus, when rap is invented, that back-and-forth insult thing is adapted, and rap battles are born.

The article doesn't claim rap was invented in Scotland. Just verbal battles.

The title of the article is "RAP music originated in medieval Scottish pubs". :dry:

It's nonsense.

[Manic]

The title of the article is "RAP music originated in medieval Scottish pubs". :dry:

It's nonsense.
Right, because why the hell would you read more than just the title? It's not like the body of the article contains any real information. :whatever:

When you read the actual article, all it says is that Scotland originated the concept of "flyting" or trading insults in a contest, which is remarkably similar to rap battles. The title is just purposely misleading, so people will say "WTF?!" and read it.

Technically, this is true, but the writer of the article is reaching a bit. Scottish flyting is responsible for rap battles in the same way romantic poetry is responsible for rock ballads. It's an old tradition that was passed down over and over until it was unrecognizably adapted into an all new medium.


Comparing flyting and rap battles, he said: "Two people engage in ritual verbal duelling and the winner has the last word in the argument, with the loser falling conspicuously silent."

[RockSP]

Right, because why the hell would you read more than just the title? It's not like the body of the article contains any real information. :whatever:

When you read the actual article, all it says is that Scotland originated the concept of "flyting" or trading insults in a contest, which is remarkably similar to rap battles. The title is just purposely misleading, so people will say "WTF?!" and read it.

Technically, this is true, but the writer of the article is reaching a bit. Scottish flyting is responsible for rap battles in the same way romantic poetry is responsible for rock ballads. It's an old tradition that was passed down over and over until it was unrecognizably adapted into an all new medium.

As I'm the one who posted the article, it's safe to say I read it. :whatever::dry:

He's doing more than reaching "a bit". Again...nonsense. Which is why I posted it, for it's comedy value.

[Ace of Knaves]

As I'm the one who posted the article, it's safe to say I read it. :whatever::dry:

He's doing more than reaching "a bit". Again...nonsense. Which is why I posted it, for it's comedy value.


Well you can't say it's complete nonsense, there is some truth in it.

But I seriously doubt when two guys on a street corner of the Bronx or Shaolin are battlin' they are thinking "Oh yea this was originally from Scotland".

[Manic]

That's why I mentioned cultural osmosis. Cultural osmosis is the unconscious passing of traditions or knowledge. People in the US have been trading barbs for bragging rights for years. That's flyting, which has roots in Scotland. Flyting is an element of rap battles.

His ultimate conclusion is bull, but the way he reached it has truth in it.

[Colossal Spoons]

I normally ignore M.I.M.S. but I f***s with this song

CJ4nFENIltI

[chamber-music]

Kid Cudi Kanye wests latest signing has been on alot of lists of Hip Hop artists to make it big this year. His DaynNight single has been the most requested song on 1Xtra the BBC radio station.

[Ace of Knaves]

I haven't listened to 1xtra for aaaaaggggeeessss. Does it still have Ace and Viz on there? And does it still do the garage/grime top 20 on wednesdays?

[chamber-music]

I don't know about garage/grime top 20 on wednesdays but Ace and Viz still have their show. Its on at Drive Time. I listen to it on my way home from work.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea Ace and Viz are funny. :up:

[Neptune]

I normally ignore M.I.M.S. but I f***s with this song

CJ4nFENIltI

Why is he rapping on that fake "a milli" beat? Everybody's trying to recreate that beat.

[terry78]

I actually recently just got into MURS. Listening to some of his stuff off his latest now.

[Neptune]

Murs is great. My favorite Murs song is Murray's revenge. You know that one?

[Colossal Spoons]

Why is he rapping on that fake "a milli" beat? Everybody's trying to recreate that beat.

Kayslay was hatin on that beat last night on Sirius. Like it really pisses him off that people try to recreate it haha.

[Incrediblejeff]

Have we discussed the awfulness of UMC in here yet, or am I still blinded by its awfulness?

I cannot believe how bad that album is.I brought it last week,and I knew I should of listened to it online first.I actually laughed and cried when I heard Sex 4 Sugar.I am so disappointed.Should of brought John Legend.

[RockSP]

It was supposed to be an EP at first and not a full album. He should have stuck with that :o.

He said he's going to try to work with NO I.D. on the next album...hopefully it will happen.

[Tigerking]

isnt their a leaked eminem song or somethin out

[Colossal Spoons]

2 from the new album: I'm Havin A Relapse and Crack A Bottle

[Tigerking]

Thought I'm Havin a Relapse was just a freestyle for a radio show or something like that

[Colossal Spoons]

I think it's on the album. Could be wrong though. I hope so cuz I hate the song.

[terry78]

Been bumping Dilated Peoples in the car lately.

-pSJjJo6syY

[SurfDUI]

I just read yesterday in the NUVO that M1 and Stikman will be in this new theater in Indianapolis at the end of Feb....for $15!!!!

I saw M1 at the Vouge a couplea years ago and he put on a hell of a show his damn self...Can't wait.

[RockSP]

Q-tip featuring Amanda Diva

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[LegendaryCaleb]

i know i shouldnt be so excited...but dre and em and 50, oh my!
rHxdwWcWwHM
i like this song...just heard it on the radio...cant wait for the cd

[Silverstein]

Yeah, I'm starting to listen to more and more Hip hop. I like Flobots, they're cool.

[KorrZ]

the loneliest punk by fatlip is the greatest album ever, imo. cook, what's up fatlip, first heat, and today's your day are the best tracks.

[theShape]

So my new thing is making mixes on Jamglue. Most of them are rough and unfinished (I have about 18 decent ones completed under the name VProductions), and can be classified as mash-ups, I guess. But I mostly stick to hip hop, with a bit of dabbling in techno. Here are some of my favorites. Hit me back with some feedback if you want. :up:

It Ain't Hard To Make The Song Cry
http://www.jamglue.com/mixes/6903541-It-Ain-t-Hard-To-Make-The-Song-Cry

Umbrellure
http://www.jamglue.com/mixes/6726543-Umbrellure

Waiting on Diamonds
http://www.jamglue.com/mixes/6785821-Waiting-on-Diamonds-Mash-Up-

HERO: Ultimate Edition
http://www.jamglue.com/mixes/6622063-HERO-Ultimate-Edition-ft-Nas-Keri-Hilson-Jay-Z-Lil-Wayne-The-Game-Snoop-Dogg

Change the World
http://www.jamglue.com/mixes/7416513-Change-The-World
(Made this one in about 5 minutes after seeing Notorious the other night, blazed as hell. Thought I'd share it anyway cause it's hot.)

[Colossal Spoons]

This 50/Rick Ross beef is hilarious. 50 findin Rick's baby mama and takin her shopping is crazy. This is guaranteed to be the funniest feud in a long time.

[CrypticOne]

I don't really like Rick Ross, and I don't know why he would start stuff with 50. I hope 50 smashes him.

[Ace of Knaves]

They are both ****.

[CrypticOne]

They are both ****.

Agreed. The only album I like from 50 is his first one, after that, he's just trash.

[Jay#1]

hip hop hasn't been the same for me in years. i'm waiting for eminem to drop his new album.

[Manic]

50 findin Rick's baby mama and takin her shopping is crazy.
Wait... are you talking about lyrics or something that actually happened? Because the former is silly, but the latter would make this insane.

[Colossal Spoons]

I don't really like Rick Ross, and I don't know why he would start stuff with 50. I hope 50 smashes him.

Apparently, he didn't like the way 50 looked at him at the BET awards :whatever:

hip hop hasn't been the same for me in years. i'm waiting for eminem to drop his new album.

Em's album isn't lookin so hot based on the 2 singles he's put out.

[Colossal Spoons]

Wait... are you talking about lyrics or something that actually happened? Because the former is silly, but the latter would make this insane.

http://thisis50.com/

Look at the pics on the far left and right. This **** actually happened lol

[Ace of Knaves]

Agreed. The only album I like from 50 is his first one, after that, he's just trash.

Agreed. I remember that tune he did with the Mad Rapper. How to Rob. That was a sick tune. From then on he has just descended into making these "club banger" pieces of tripe.

hip hop hasn't been the same for me in years. i'm waiting for eminem to drop his new album.

Agreed. I don't really buy new hip hop albums any more, most of them are crap. I buy all the old classics like 36 chambers and mecca and the soul brother and all eyes on me. It's like as soon as the year 2000 hit hip hop has been in a decline. But there is still some good artists out there like Lupe and Kanye (if you can get over the fact he is a complete prick!)

[Jay#1]

lol i don't even buy albums anymore.. i kinda like NOT spending my money and downloading music. i have no use for cd players no more.

[chamber-music]

Other than Kid Cudi there ain't a single hip hop artist I'm feeling right now.

[Colossal Spoons]

Blueprint 3, comin soon y'all :D

[SouLeSS]

This little dude is absolutely amazing. Saw him bust this live on stage at the end of a 45 minute set and he did it flawlessly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryb-vauFzX0

[knowsbleed]

Nice... what clear flow. I have too much mouth juice to even try anything like that.

[Colossal Spoons]

Wow

[SouLeSS]

Nice... what clear flow. I have too much mouth juice to even try anything like that.

Yeah, the guy is really humble and such. He sits at his merch booth at shows and just hangs out, I've gone up to him at a few shows and talked to him for hours about rapping, how he got started, industry tricks for better sounds, **** like that. Smoked a few fatass blunts of medicinal MJ with him too last time I saw him. He's really down to just chill with real fans, and the bigass black guy that raps with him is just as cool if not cooler. The dude (1-ton, big black guy) gave me a free Potluck (their group) jersey because I told him I spent hours looking for and subsequently picked up their first CD from a mom and pop's store. He said something like "wow, that's real dedication man, here take a jersey and come smoke a blunt with us".

Gotta love people like that.

[RockSP]

Other than Kid Cudi there ain't a single hip hop artist I'm feeling right now.

...wow.

[citizenpain]

anybody on here heard of la coka nostra?

i've been a fan of everlast since the house of pain days, up through whitey ford sings the blues, and eat at whitey's, altho his 2 albums after that weren't all that great. he seemed to be getting further and further away from hip hop, which is why i was psyched to see him get back together with danny boy and dj lethal from house of pain, along with several others, to form this new group called la coka nostra. ill bill is in there, he's pretty nasty to those who know him, along with slaine and big left both of whom are pretty decent but i don't know much about em. anyway, these tracks are definitely worth checkin out if you're a fan of any of these dudes individually cuz they make for quite a hip hop supergroup. pretty nasty stuff.

i suggest ya'll check out the following tracks, all of which are available on youtube:

+ this is war
+ i'm an american (ft. b-real)
+ that's coke
+ get outta my way
+ **** tony montana

[SouLeSS]

Buncha fat white guys that drop their kids off at preschool go in the stuido and rap about being gangster, being hard, and being a G when they really arent?

No thanks.

[RockSP]

Buncha fat white guys that drop their kids off at preschool go in the stuido and rap about being gangster, being hard, and being a G when they really arent?

You just described damn near every rapper in history...minus the white guy part.

[Papa Burgundy]

lil wayne better not win rap album of the year...he will though seeing as hes the only one out of that category nominated for album of the year. lupe or nas deserve it.

whatever grammys suck anyway

[citizenpain]

Buncha fat white guys that drop their kids off at preschool go in the stuido and rap about being gangster, being hard, and being a G when they really arent?

No thanks.

You just described damn near every rapper in history...minus the white guy part.

exactly, you just described pretty much every rapper ever. you're right in a way but you're just generalizing and obviously not listening. they say plenty of relevant **** and have some dope lyrics. anyway, i'm just a big house of pain and everlast fan, i don't really care for the rest of the crew.

[terry78]

You just described damn near every rapper in history...minus the white guy part.

But the white guy part makes them "safe."

[SouLeSS]

exactly, you just described pretty much every rapper ever. you're right in a way but you're just generalizing and obviously not listening. they say plenty of relevant **** and have some dope lyrics. anyway, i'm just a big house of pain and everlast fan, i don't really care for the rest of the crew.

Nah, i know. I just don't like the group, I've heard them a few times. GOnna see them live though pretty soon. Not cause I want to, but because they're on a bill with a few other bands. Including the group with the white guy I posted a page back.

[knowsbleed]

Ron Browz is offically the most annoying person on the planet earth. I want to physically harm him.

[Colossal Spoons]

T-Pain>B.O.B.>Ron Browz>Every other Autotune user

[knowsbleed]

Blueprint 3, comin soon y'all :D

When?!? :cmad:

[RockSP]

T-Pain>B.O.B.

:pal:

Good one. You should do stand-up.

[Colossal Spoons]

When?!? :cmad:

I know! Jay's holdin' out along with Em and 50 :cmad:

:pal:

Good one. You should do stand-up.

I haven't heard enough from B.O.B. to put him ahead of T-Pain. T-Pain would be at the bottom of that last if he didn't kill the hooks on songs.

[Colossal Spoons]

Finally, 50 and Wayne are gettin into it.

[RockSP]

:sleepy:

[RockSP]

Evidence featuring Phonte (of Little Brother), Blu and Will I Am

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[ReTrO JuNkIe 42]

R.I.P BIG 12 years ago today

[Godman]

I know this is old news but I haven't seen much discussion on how Lloyd Banks ate Rick Ross. Also what do ya'll think about Eminem dropping "Relapse" same day as Lil Wayne???

Wayne got punchlines but I can't stand his music and auto tone ********!!!!!!

Eminem has released mediocre **** throughout the last time and crack a bottle being aight...I don't know. It is Eminem tho so maybe he can reclaim his thrown or his time is up???? I don't know???? what ya'll think?

We live in a stupid america, or let me say MORE stupid america today than ever. Listen to the garbage that passes as music today...so I don't know.

[citizenpain]

I know this is old news but I haven't seen much discussion on how Lloyd Banks ate Rick Ross. Also what do ya'll think about Eminem dropping "Relapse" same day as Lil Wayne???

Wayne got punchlines but I can't stand his music and auto tone ********!!!!!!

Eminem has released mediocre **** throughout the last time and crack a bottle being aight...I don't know. It is Eminem tho so maybe he can reclaim his thrown or his time is up???? I don't know???? what ya'll think?

We live in a stupid america, or let me say MORE stupid america today than ever. Listen to the garbage that passes as music today...so I don't know.

lil wayne has been all over the place as of late. all over the radio and the tv and magazines, but it might work against him. eminem's encore came out in 2004 and then he had curtain call and the re-up but those don't really count, so em's been out of the public eye for a while while it's true his stuff hasn't been as good as he used to, the average listener is still gonna want to hear his latest **** so i say em will easily outsell lil wayne.

[Zacky]

T-Pain>B.O.B.>Ron Browz>Every other Autotune user

Roger Rroutman > All

[SouLeSS]

Eminem is promising that it's going back to his oldschool ways of Infinite / Slim Shady LP and not how his previous few (Encore, Eminem Show) in terms of rapping, messages, and beats.

So, at least if he sticks to that it's promising.

[Manic]

As long as Em doesn't release another song where he basically says "LISTEN TO ME! I'M CONTROVERSIAL!" over and over, I'll be happy. There's nothing more sad than a rapper who gets caught in their own hype Kanye West.

[Colossal Spoons]

I know this is old news but I haven't seen much discussion on how Lloyd Banks ate Rick Ross. Also what do ya'll think about Eminem dropping "Relapse" same day as Lil Wayne???

Wayne got punchlines but I can't stand his music and auto tone ********!!!!!!

Eminem has released mediocre **** throughout the last time and crack a bottle being aight...I don't know. It is Eminem tho so maybe he can reclaim his thrown or his time is up???? I don't know???? what ya'll think?

We live in a stupid america, or let me say MORE stupid america today than ever. Listen to the garbage that passes as music today...so I don't know.

I didn't know 50 pawned off his beef with Rick onto Lloyd lol. I didn't know we had a release date for Relapse. hope the rest of the CD is better than all of the singles :o

[SouLeSS]

There aren't any singles out yet.

Well, maybe the Crack A Bottle song, but according to Em all the other "singles" were just leaked versions of tracks that weren't going to be on the CD. He wrote/finished over a hundred songs between Encore and now, and some of them are getting leaked as "The Relapse Tracks"

[Nightmare]

I hope Relapse aint anything like Encore, damn that **** sucked. I also dont wanna hear him farting and pissing in his songs anymore. Wtf was that about.

[SouLeSS]

That was about him putting whatever he could on a record just to see if the people buy it.

[Colossal Spoons]

There aren't any singles out yet.

Well, maybe the Crack A Bottle song, but according to Em all the other "singles" were just leaked versions of tracks that weren't going to be on the CD. He wrote/finished over a hundred songs between Encore and now, and some of them are getting leaked as "The Relapse Tracks"

Ah ha, well there's hope yet. Excluding Crack a Bottle, good Lord that song sucks. I think 50's putting it on his CD too. Ugh :down:

[Colossal Spoons]

I hope Relapse aint anything like Encore, damn that **** sucked. I also dont wanna hear him farting and pissing in his songs anymore. Wtf was that about.

Haha, some of those songs sure did suck, but I f**ks with "Rain Man"

[RockSP]

Roger Troutman > All

Fixed. And agreed.

[Zacky]

Fixed. And agreed.


:o :ifail:

[SLVRSR4]

BUSH KNOCKED DOWN DEM TOWAZ!!!8 Mos Def is Mos Def mah homeboi.

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[The Spawn]

"So I'm strapped like Lee Malvo holdin' a sniper rifle
These bullets'll touch your kids, and I don't mean like Michael"

I know who Malvo is, but what Michael is he referring to?

[RockSP]

I know who Malvo is, but what Michael is he referring to?

Michael Jackson, dude. C'mon.

[terry78]

"So I'm strapped like Lee Malvo holdin' a sniper rifle
These bullets'll touch your kids, and I don't mean like Michael"

I know who Malvo is, but what Michael is he referring to?

Bolton.

[The Spawn]

I ****in' knew it was Boltonnnnnnn.

[Godman]

Eminem is promising that it's going back to his oldschool ways of Infinite / Slim Shady LP and not how his previous few (Encore, Eminem Show) in terms of rapping, messages, and beats.

So, at least if he sticks to that it's promising.

I don't want him to fully get rid of it all cause he has better subject matter now though I prefer his old flow WAY better. His old flow constraint him from delivering any message cause it was very reliant on specific rhyme schemes where as he is more off the wallish now to then.


Old flow please with implements of a more grown up approach like he had with Eminem Show. He has a lot of stuff in that. I want to hear Em and Primo at least one joint and Just Blaze on one too...WOW. Please I don't want to hear ANYONE from Shady on it. I know d12 will be darn it and that cashius guy...yuk

[Havok83]

Ive been listening to alot of Lil Wayne lately. The Carter 1 and 2 are on constant rotation in my ipod and car

[Godman]

I didn't know 50 pawned off his beef with Rick onto Lloyd lol. I didn't know we had a release date for Relapse. hope the rest of the CD is better than all of the singles :o

Rick actually called Banks Out and got DESTROYED!!!!! http://www.imeem.com/people/tSot7X7/music/lifnWOlE/lloyd-banks-officer-down/

[Godman]

Ive been listening to alot of Lil Wayne lately. The Carter 1 and 2 are on constant rotation in my ipod and car

most overrated rapper ever

[SouLeSS]

I don't want him to fully get rid of it all cause he has better subject matter now though I prefer his old flow WAY better. His old flow constraint him from delivering any message cause it was very reliant on specific rhyme schemes where as he is more off the wallish now to then.


Old flow please with implements of a more grown up approach like he had with Eminem Show. He has a lot of stuff in that. I want to hear Em and Primo at least one joint and Just Blaze on one too...WOW. Please I don't want to hear ANYONE from Shady on it. I know d12 will be darn it and that cashius guy...yuk

When Bad Meets Evil Pt. 2 please.

[Godman]

When Bad Meets Evil Pt. 2 please.

Better yet...Eminem ft. SLAUGHTERHOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Manic]

Ive been listening to alot of Lil Wayne lately.
I'm sorry. :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

I know all the other members of Cash Money Records have got to be jealous of Weezy these days :(

[Manic]

Except for Baby*, who I think owns Cash Money anyway.





*Why is he a grown man named Baby?!

[Johnny Drama]

50 is murdering Rick Ross...

It's sad and funny...

[Godman]

50 is murdering Rick Ross...

It's sad and funny...

Yes he is

[Colossal Spoons]

He's makin it mad personal too lol

[Johnny Drama]

I know, considering 50 more than likely banged Officer Ricky's baby mamma.
Man, talk about hitting close to home...

[RockSP]

Except for Baby*, who I think owns Cash Money anyway.

Along with his brother Slim. And I'm sure Mannie Fresh has plenty of $$$ from all the production he used to do for them.

*Why is he a grown man named Baby?!

Let's not open that particular can of worms...or nearly every rapper will have some 'splaining to do.

[RockSP]

I know, considering 50 more than likely banged Officer Ricky's baby mamma.
Man, talk about hitting close to home...

So now he's biting the Nas/Jay-Z beef...?