The Hip Hop Thread

[CrypticOne]

'Forever' video with Drake, Kanye, Wayne, and Em:

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Dope. Anyone notice Slaughterhouse in the back of Em? Dope.

[ComicChick]

After listening to Jay-Z's new album....I kinda like it now. There are some good songs on it. Empire State of Mind, Off That, Venus VS. Mars, A Star is Born, Young Forever. J. Cole is sick also.

i think it wouldve been better of not being called the Blueprint 3. it doesn't really follow the blueprint of what made that album great. another name, not associated with BP wouldve helped it do better. cuz no matter what, you call it BP 3, BP 77 or whatever, its always gonna be compared to the first

[StrainedEyes]

Dope. Anyone notice Slaughterhouse in the back of Em? Dope.

Yeah, it's a little random but awesome nonetheless. Em and Royce need to start working together again.

[chamber-music]

Dizzee Rascal put on some funny peformances on Jools Holland Show last night

Holiday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spfalgW_eNI
Bonkers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yknBPGkhPgE

Also Dizzee's apperance on serious BBC2 tv show Newsnight where he talks about Obama winning because of Hip Hop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRTe4q-vR0g

[KenK]

Yeah, it's a little random but awesome nonetheless. Em and Royce need to start working together again.

This is very true! I still love "When Bad Meets Evil"!

[Colossal Spoons]

Where the hell is Obie Trice?

[CrypticOne]

Where the hell is Obie Trice?

He's been off of Shady for like a year now.

But yeah, hopefully Em and Royce have a song on Relapse 2.

[ComicChick]

Where the hell is Obie Trice?

he got some teeth and retired

[Incrediblejeff]

I love this video
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[Fresh Prince]

Anybody a Meek Mills fan? Also how did Drake become hugh in the first place with his rapping?

[ComicChick]

Anybody a Meek Mills fan? Also how did Drake become hugh in the first place with his rapping?

drake got big on the mixtape/underground scene

[Fresh Prince]

drake got big on the mixtape/underground scene

Thats what me and my friend trying to do, some underground rap.

[Crook]

Philly will never be relevant in the rap game. :o

[ComicChick]

Thats what me and my friend trying to do, some underground rap.

i hope you don't rap like you post :)

[Ziggyman]

'Forever' video with Drake, Kanye, Wayne, and Em:

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Em completely owns...

...btw...any Drizzy fans here...!?!?

[Colossal Spoons]

he got some teeth and retired

Haha

Philly will never be relevant in the rap game. :o

Heard that :up:

[knowsbleed]

You kidding me? Roots themselves are enough to redeem anything coming out of Philly.

[Colossal Spoons]

I pushed my seed in her bush tonight

[Wylie Times]

Speaking of Philly......DJ Jazzy Jeff's Magnificent was and still is HIGHLY underrated.

[terry78]

I pushed my seed in her bush tonight

Was that a reference to the song, or is this describing an actual...never mind.

[Manic]

Was that a reference to the song, or is this describing an actual...never mind.
"The Seed" and "The Seed 2.0" by the Roots.

[knowsbleed]

Seed 2.0 is my jam. :up:

[Fresh Prince]

Philly will never be relevant in the rap game. :o

Why you say that?

[Paroxysm]

Jedi Mind Tricks Feat. Tragedy Khadafi - Genghis Khan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjwsPxiZKpQ

[ComicChick]

You kidding me? Roots themselves are enough to redeem anything coming out of Philly.

love the Roots. i was jamming to Don't Say Nothin this morning, forgot how much i liked it

[RockSP]

Def Jam's sorry ass keeps pushing the new album back. Supposedly it comes out next month now...

[CrypticOne]

Jedi Mind Tricks Feat. Tragedy Khadafi - Genghis Khan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjwsPxiZKpQ

One of the dopest songs from JMT. People should also checkout Animal Rap by them too.

[Crook]

One of the dopest songs from JMT. People should also checkout Animal Rap (Remix) by them too.
Fixed.

[StrainedEyes]

On Monday, while promoting his album Street Hop (which comes out October 20), Royce talked with MTV News a bit about the possible alliance.

"It's very much what it looks like," Royce said of Slaughterhouse joining forces with Eminem. "That's always a possibility. It's conversations being had, very good conversations. I just did an interview recently and they asked me to a address the rumors. I said, 'Rumors are what they are, people see things and they jump to a conclusion.' I never said it wasn't going to happen — I left it right there in the middle. I think it would be a great thing if it could happen."

Royce says he has been in discussion with Eminem and Slim Shady's Paul Rosenberg for some time and the Slaughterhouse/ Shady Records deal isn't looking too bad.

"I've been talking to Em and Paul for a long time," Royce added. "With this particular situation, things are falling into place. Everything is in place where it's supposed to be. I'm very prepared [for] when the opportunity presented itself. It's a time where there's things they need over here and certain things we need in order to move over there. I think it's a good marriage. Like I said, I just hope it can happen."

http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#1VZ4Yw/www.mtv.com/news/articles/1622494/20090928/eminem.jhtml/

[Crook]

Posted on ThisIs50.com, the rapper's website also has a link to an alleged version (http://www.sohh.com/jump/index.php?goto=http://www.thisis50.com/profiles/blogs/breaking-news-50-cent-rushed) of Joe's new album for free download.
This afternoon while in his Manhattan offices, employees say that 50 Cent was listening to Fat Joe's new album, J.O.S.E. 2 when all the sudden, he collapsed! An ambulance was called, and by the time they arrived, 50 Cent regained consciousness and was complaining of blurred vision and a severe migraine. 50 Cent was rushed to Mt. Sinai hospital at 4:26 pm. Doctors say after performing a Cat Scan and EKG there seems to be some damage to his auditory cortex, which is the region of the brain that is responsible for processing sound. (This Is 50) 50's partner is rhymes Tony Yayo also participated in the stunt (http://www.sohh.com/jump/index.php?goto=http://twitter.com/Tonyyayo/status/4453204514) via Twitter.
'On my way to the hospital," he wrote Monday afternoon. "Keep 50 in ya'll prayers. Let's see him thru this. 50 rushed to the hospital here are the details." (Tony Yayo's Twitter)VIDEO:
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50 may have lost his touch musically, but his comedy game is always on point. This dude's a fool. :funny:

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, wtf

[Aesop Rocks]

I was watching Afro Samurai 1 and 2 and RZA was the musical mastermind behind both of them.

I now love RZA.

That is all.

*throws flash bang and disappears into the Hype world.*

[Wylie Times]

Lol this fool had the "I'll be missing you" beat playing in background with ER footage.

[Wylie Times]

I was watching Afro Samurai 1 and 2 and RZA was the musical mastermind behind both of them.

I now love RZA.

That is all.

*throws flash bang and disappears into the Hype world.*

I'd go as far as to say Rza is the most influential Hip-Hop producer since Premier.

[Crook]

Only if we pretend Dre doesn't exist. Maybe.

[Wylie Times]

Only if we pretend Dre doesn't exist. Maybe.

Being more successful and being more influential are two different things. You can hear elements of Rza's style in more songs produced by up and comers than you can hear of Dre. Hell Kanye's production style is just a lighter version of what Rza does. You can hear it in some of 9th Wonder's stuff too (though you hear more of a premier influence in his stuff though)

[Aesop Rocks]

I'd go as far as to say Rza is the most influential Hip-Hop producer since Premier.

I'm not going to say I know anything about either sides, I am simply going off of what I heard and it's what I love.

This is the opening theme song:
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I love, love this song.

here's another one.
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[CrypticOne]

http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#1VZ4Yw/www.mtv.com/news/articles/1622494/20090928/eminem.jhtml/

This would be cool as hell if it happened.

[Crook]

I know Wayne gets clowned on for looking like a damn gremlin, but he got a point with this story:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhvm3BEiSt2fl7w6p0

:funny:

[Manic]

My McAfee Site Advisor red flagged that link.

[Crook]

I assure you it's safe, my friend. McAfee sucks btw. :o

[Manic]

McAfee may not catch everything, but I tend not to ignore the few things it does catch.

[Bunker]

New Cudi mixtape. :heart:

[RockSP]

Nas...as interpreted by Lupe

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[Crook]

Oh, I can't wait for the reaction to this. Fast-foward to 49 seconds:

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Which old-school hip-hop fan just flatlined after seeing that? :funny:

[knowsbleed]

:facepalm:

What a sad... sad... video.


Damn you KRS... :csad:






on a different note... I'd so buy an album from this kid:

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[knowsbleed]

50 may have lost his touch musically, but his comedy game is always on point. This dude's a fool. :funny:

HAHA! He def took talking smack to a new level with that. :up:

[knowsbleed]

Nas...as interpreted by Lupe

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One of the best doing one of the best... I love that song. That was a great album.

[knowsbleed]

btw... J. Cole > Drake...


fo sho.


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foreshadowing.

[Wylie Times]

Oh, I can't wait for the reaction to this. Fast-foward to 49 seconds:

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Which old-school hip-hop fan just flatlined after seeing that? :funny:
:barf:

[Bunker]

I'm pissed that I missed Lupe when he performed at Governor'a Island last month. He's ****ing amazing live.

[CrypticOne]

Yeah, I wanna see Lupe live. Hopefully he comes to Colorado soon.

[ComicChick]

Lupe is coming where I live, I'm trying to work the gig!

even though I've already met him

[Crook]

So what does everyone think of MTVs top 10 hottest MCs of the Year? I know they're not exactly renowned for their opinions on hip-hop, but apparently this list has a lot of people mad:



Jay-Z
Lil Wayne
Drake
Kanye West
Rick Ross
Gucci Mane
Young Jeezy
Fabolous
50 Cent
Raekwon


Jay, the #1 guy on the list, expressed his disappointment in the rankings:

MTV, Thanx for this nod of appreciation," he wrote in a statement. "Although I don't strive to be 'hot' for any particular year, I thank you for the acknowledgment. My whole goal is to be recognized as the best ever. I created the term 'best rapper alive' as a sign of respect to my fallen comrades (Biggie and Tupac). I believe I've allowed a significant grace period, and I believe I would not be respecting myself if being the absolute best was not my goal, and that's why I continue to push myself until exhaustion ... salute. Sidebar: Kanye moment if I may ... Eminem?!?! I think you do the credibility of this list a disservice if you don't thoroughly explain his omission. As of this second he has the highest selling rap album of the year and a scene stealing verse on the best 'posse' cut of the year.

Jermaine Dupri, who has been dissed by both Dre and Em, also came foward:

"WHATS UP LIFERS HAPPY FRIDAY!!!!!!," he wrote today (October 9). "TODAYS QUESTION IS ABOUT THE MTV HOT MCs LIST. MY QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT EMINEM NOT MAKING IT? I PERSONALLY THINK THE LIST JUST LOST ITS CREDIBILITY BY NOT INCLUDING HIM. NOT ONLY DID HE MAKE A ALBUM THIS YEAR BUT THAT ALBUM OUT SOLD 75 PERCENT OF EVERYBODY ON THE LIST .SERGE WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO ME THE LIST AND WHY THIS HAPPENED BUT TO ME THIS IS WHY SO MANY PEOPLE KEEP SAYING HIPHOP IS DEAD. WE HAVE NO RULES AND THE FIRST RULE SHOULD BE, UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THE RECORD BUSINESS (KEY WORD BUSINESS) THE END RESULT IS TO SELL RECORDS NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. IN THESE BAD TIMES OF THE RECORD INDUSTRY HE SHOULD'VE MADE IT FOR THAT FACT ALONE THAT HE STILL HAD THE POWER TO MOVE 600K RECORD HIS FIRST WEEK. ANYWAY YALL ALWAYS ASKING HOW I FEEL SO THERE YOU HAVE IT LOL!!!!! TALK TO ME!!!"

MTV, from all the backlash, actually had to issue a response:

Eminem's ranking was one of the most discussed topics at the Roundtable. His hotly anticipated return to hip-hop after a long absence drove first week sales of over 600,000 - the highest first-week of the year so far. He granted a handful of select interviews here and abroad, and was part of a massive moment with Sacha Baron Cohen at the MTV Movie Awards. But then Em retreated to the lab, where he spent the summer crafting Relapse 2. From June to September, Em all-but took himself out of the public eye, while other MCs generated week-to-week heat with mixtapes, guest appearances, performances and Web activity.

Damn, I know Em gotta be grinning if one of his rap idols, and a rap producer he publicly hates, starts defending him. :hehe:

[Bunker]

Ew.

What a horrid list.

[Bunker]

Ew.

What a horrid list.

[Wylie Times]

Meh, who cares, it's not like MTV is anti Eminem....They push his videos harder than anyone else and let him say things other rappers aren't allowed to say.

He probably should have been on that list but it's not some conspiracy or anything. He frankly hasn't had much of a "buzzy" the past year compared to those other guys.

[ComicChick]

fabolous is on the list? i didn't even know he had anything new out this year

[RockSP]

:whatever: @ Jermaine Dupri's statement.

[Wylie Times]

I must say that I'm disappointed that the Chef is ranked 10 :(

[Crook]

He probably should have been on that list but it's not some conspiracy or anything. He frankly hasn't had much of a "buzzy" the past year compared to those other guys.
He's outsold practically every other person on that list, surely that comes into play when considering popularity, relevance, and attention.

Also, what "buzz" did Raekwon have outside the small group of hip hop heads??

[Wylie Times]

He's outsold practically every other person on that list, surely that comes into play when considering popularity, relevance, and attention.

Also, what "buzz" did Raekwon have outside the small group of hip hop heads??

I'm sure it does but at the same time his latest album frankly isn't all that great, it's good but not anything close to great. That and he just kinda threw the album out there and disappeared.

Also Raekwon's album is a sequel to one of the greatest Hip-Hop albums of all time, and while it's not AS good as the original it comes pretty close.

[knowsbleed]

To this day I still bump Incarcerated Scarfaces... and I don't even turn it down when I pull up to a stoplight next to a car full of black women.

[CrypticOne]

Yeah, I don't like that list at all. They have Gucci Mane and Rick Ross ranked above Raekwon. Don't know what they were thinking.

In my opinion, Eminem should be #1. He murdered Jay on Renegade. I don't care what anyone says. Plus, look at there last albums and compare them, Relapse and The Blueprint 3. Relapse blows BP3 out of the water. Then you have to look at 'Forever.' Eminem rips that song with three of MTV's Hottest MCs on it. Within the top 5.

[Crook]

I'm sure it does but at the same time his latest album frankly isn't all that great, it's good but not anything close to great. That and he just kinda threw the album out there and disappeared.
Compared to the albums any of the top 10 artists, Relapse merked practically every one on lyricism and flow alone. Was it Em's best? No, but then again we're judging on a 2009 scale. On which case, his talent as an MC is still highly unmatched. Like Jay said, dude murdered the 3 hottest mainstream rappers out right now. On THEIR song, and with Em out of his element. C'mon.

Also Raekwon's album is a sequel to one of the greatest Hip-Hop albums of all time, and while it's not AS good as the original it comes pretty close.
You're naming the significance of the album's title, I'm talking about the buzz the album has made. Sequel to a classic album doesn't mean anything if you don't reach the same impact as the original. That's pulling a Godfather 3 instead of a 2. :o

[StrainedEyes]

Royce da 5'9" - Dinner Time (ft. Busta Rhymes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4l8VMT-YNA

:up: Street Hop in a little over a week.

[Hypestyle]

http://www.sellaband.com/projects/publicenemy

the new 'SELLABAND' website allows fans to contribute funds to help (mostly up and coming) bands/performers record their next projects.. Public Enemy is involved in a new promotion, unique for an established band, to help get funds for recording their next album project for 2010..

[Cmill216]

You know things are bad when people have to bailout their favorite MCs.

[knowsbleed]

Lupe's new single... what say you?

[Ace of Knaves]

Wait, wait, wait!!! Cuban Lynx 2 is finally ****ing out?!?!

Edit: ****, it came out the day before my birthday. I'm an idiot :dry:

[Cmill216]

Lupe's new single... what say you?

The third verse is ridiculous.

[Wylie Times]

Compared to the albums any of the top 10 artists, Relapse merked practically every one on lyricism and flow alone. Was it Em's best? No, but then again we're judging on a 2009 scale. On which case, his talent as an MC is still highly unmatched. Like Jay said, dude murdered the 3 hottest mainstream rappers out right now. On THEIR song, and with Em out of his element. C'mon.

Albums are not judged solely on Lyricism and flow. If that were the case Cannibus would have a classic album too. I don't agree that Em merked Jay in regards to flow, Jay's flow is better than Eminem, he's far more versatile (though Em has the edge on Jay lyrically but not by much IMO). Em's talents as an MC are NOT unmatched, Rae and Jay are very much on his level, but all three of them have totally different styles. Em is dope and easily one of the greatest MC's of all time. I said myself that he probably should have been this list, but I do understand why he was probably left off. He intentionally hasn't been making much of a buzz..He threw his album out there and kinda just faded into the background.

You're naming the significance of the album's title, I'm talking about the buzz the album has made. Sequel to a classic album doesn't mean anything if you don't reach the same impact as the original. That's pulling a Godfather 3 instead of a 2. :o

The able has had a buzz since it was announced to be in production. The ablum itself has gotten great reviews, it's not AS good as Cuban Linx but it's damn close and considering how great of an album Cuban Linx was that's a huge accomplishment. I think you're underestimating how important the original Cuban Linx was and how anticipated the sequal has been.

[Crook]

Lupe's new single... what say you?
'Fire' with the Hendrix sample? If so...whack. He ain't ever gonna blow up with s**t like that. Lupe makes some ill songs, but whoever's deciding what singles to put/leak out should be fired on the spot. :o

Albums are not judged solely on Lyricism and flow. If that were the case Cannibus would have a classic album too.
Never said anything about a classic album. I specifically said we were going by 2009 standards, which means you exclude anything that isn't in that year.

I don't agree that Em merked Jay in regards to flow, Jay's flow is better than Eminem, he's far more versatile (though Em has the edge on Jay lyrically but not by much IMO).
Jay's flow has been falling off since Blueprint 2. Where has he displayed as much flow versatility as Em in the last few years? Jay's on top, and as a result he's been on autopilot for the great majority of his songs.

Em's talents as an MC are NOT unmatched, Rae and Jay are very much on his level, but all three of them have totally different styles.
Rae and Jay...now? Are on Em's level? If this were during the 'Encore' years I would've wholeheartedly co-signed that. But Em is beastin' now, and this is from someone who's bashed him for the past 5 years. Start at 3:10 here:

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What have either Jay or Rae done that's matched mic spitting like this, in recent time?

Content-wise, it's absolutely debatable who's better than who. I'll agree. Technically speaking? Em is the most proficient rapper out right now. He's mastered everything from breath control, to multi's, to raw spitting. He still has lines that got me going "ugh! that was disgusting!" (in a good way). Keep an eye out for his part on the BET Cypher in the coming weeks. Apparently he killed that thing as usual. Here's a crappy preview:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhEd4k5wK0wV2rY5Q6

Can't hear much, but from the audience's reaction you can tell they were feeling it.

Em is dope and easily one of the greatest MC's of all time. I said myself that he probably should have been this list, but I do understand why he was probably left off. He intentionally hasn't been making much of a buzz..He threw his album out there and kinda just faded into the background.
Like Jay said, he's on the biggest group cut out right now, and everyone has pretty much universally claimed he slayed them. Sorry if I'm coming off as a huge Stan right now, but Em has revitalized my love for his skill dating back to my middle school years.

It just irks me when he's not being recognized as of now, when he's put himself in a place where his sole mission is to just wreck the mic.

The able has had a buzz since it was announced to be in production. The ablum itself has gotten great reviews, it's not AS good as Cuban Linx but it's damn close and considering how great of an album Cuban Linx was that's a huge accomplishment. I think you're underestimating how important the original Cuban Linx was and how anticipated the sequal has been.
You're misconstruing my point. This isn't about the album's quality, it's about the impact it has on the game. First was being recognized in a good portion of the mainstream media, second was almost an under-the-radar release.

[Crook]

Eminem, Black Thought, The Roots, DJ Jazzy Jeff perform LL's "Rock the Bells"
(http://www.vh1.com/video/play.jhtml?id=1623696&vid=440267&source=mp_carousel)

[ReTrO JuNkIe 42]

Eminem, Black Thought, The Roots, DJ Jazzy Jeff perform LL's "Rock the Bells"
(http://www.vh1.com/video/play.jhtml?id=1623696&vid=440267&source=mp_carousel)


Best performance of the night, the show went down hill from there

[StrainedEyes]

Eminem's new song off of the DJ Hero Renegade Edition bonus cd is going to premier on Shade 45 on Friday. It's called 'Taking My Ball'.
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/10/09/new-eminem-track-jay-zs-biggest-hits-coming-to-dj-hero-renegade-edition-albums/

Also at the BET Hip Hop Awards there were 3 Ciphers, the final of the 3 had Mos Def, Black Thought, and Eminem. They all apparently killed it.
http://allhiphop.com/stories/reviews/archive/2009/10/11/21975280.aspx

[CrypticOne]

Can't wait to hear Eminem's new song. Hopefully Relapse 2 is released this year.

Don't know if anyone listens to them, but AOTP are releasing their third album next month. Its called The Unholy Terror. I personally can't wait to hear it.

[Crook]

Man, I f'n hate Bow Wow but he just got a fan for at least one day. He does a dead-on impression of both Wayne and 50:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhgkt5KUvz4wZU8f2I

Wayne was ill, but doing the whole interview-mode "I'ma stop being gangsta and try to sound smart by using the same multisyllabic words over and over again" 50 Cent had me dying. Anyone that's seen his interviews knows why this is too funny. :funny:

[RockSP]

The Roots "How I Got Over" Video:

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Live version is better:

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Kinda funny that the live version is so energetic for such a "downbeat" song...

[KenK]

Listened to Relapse again driving home from work. Still one of (if not THE) sickest hip-hop albums of the year. Definitely beats out BP3, that's for damn sure.

[TheAQU4M4N]

Listened to Relapse again driving home from work. Still one of (if not THE) sickest hip-hop albums of the year. Definitely beats out BP3, that's for damn sure.
I thought Relapse was one Em's darker album, i can't wait to here what he has in store for R2.

[ComicChick]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yHFrOtUsKOo/SpTFG5m77RI/AAAAAAAAF74/ExeWA6qpOhE/s1600/Eminem%2B-%2BRelapse%2B2%2B(Official%2BAlbum%2BCover)%2BThan x%2Bto%2B-Jizzle.png

[Ace of Knaves]

Finally got Cuban Linx 2. John John goes on bad on New Wu. Pisses anything Em does on Relapse IMO.

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Sick tune

[CrypticOne]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yHFrOtUsKOo/SpTFG5m77RI/AAAAAAAAF74/ExeWA6qpOhE/s1600/Eminem%2B-%2BRelapse%2B2%2B(Official%2BAlbum%2BCover)%2BThan x%2Bto%2B-Jizzle.png

Where did you find this?! The 17th?! Holy *****!!!!

[StrainedEyes]

Eminem - Take My Ball
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It's a throwaway track from Relapse 1.

[Crook]

Tell me someone knew about this, because I sure as hell didn't. Lupe did a track for Twilight 2??

http://usershare.net/6q8iarj4udxj

It's apparently on the soundtrack. SMH Lupe. You not getting credit for this. :down :dry:

EDIT: Lupe explains the track:

Solar Midnite is my first commercial release that I actually produced as well as wrote. The New Moon team asked me if I could do a song specifically for the film. They invited me to an early screening of the unfinished film from which I pulled different elements that I thought would translate into a great song. I pulled in vocalist and bassist Graham Burris and acclaimed musician Matt Nelson to help fill it out my vision musically and "joila" Solar Midnite was born. The song basically deals with the chaotic love story that takes place between the characters. It's more on the rock side of my musical catalog and comes straight from my die hard fanhood of Red Hot Chili Peppers and Anthony Keidis, one of my FAVORITE RAPPERS.

[Fresh Prince]

Anybody getting Flammers 3?

[Wylie Times]

Ok.....I know I been out of the loop for a lil bit with work and relationships and such....but when did Joe Budden and the Wu start beefing? :huh:

[Manic]

Man, I f'n hate Bow Wow but he just got a fan for at least one day. He does a dead-on impression of both Wayne and 50:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhgkt5KUvz4wZU8f2I

Wayne was ill, but doing the whole interview-mode "I'ma stop being gangsta and try to sound smart by using the same multisyllabic words over and over again" 50 Cent had me dying. Anyone that's seen his interviews knows why this is too funny. :funny:

You keep linking to that site, and it keeps getting flagged for malware and spyware.

[Colossal Spoons]

Eminem - Take My Ball
kUOurI2wu24

It's a throwaway track from Relapse 1.

Heard this on the radio the other day, def sounds like it would have fit in with Relapse 1.

[Crook]

Ok.....I know I been out of the loop for a lil bit with work and relationships and such....but when did Joe Budden and the Wu start beefing? :huh:
Joe took issue to a top 50 MCs list Vibe (?) put out earlier in the year. He questioned people like Method Man being ranked above him, and asked people if they actually thought someone like Meth could keep up with him, bar for bar.

Raekwon eventually commented and you can follow the rest here..

http://www.sohh.com/2009/08/breaking_joe_budden_attac.html

You keep linking to that site, and it keeps getting flagged for malware and spyware.
Don't know what to say man, that site gets traffic in the thousands. Google or someone else would have flagged that site by now. It's more than likely a low-level security risk that your program is detecting, which is probably nothing.

[Manic]

I checked McAfee's report. It turns out they just link to a dangerous site.

"When we tested this site we found links to zangocash.com, which we found to be a distributor of downloads some people consider adware, spyware or other potentially unwanted programs."

[Wylie Times]

Joe took issue to a top 50 MCs list Vibe (?) put out earlier in the year. He questioned people like Method Man being ranked above him, and asked people if they actually thought someone like Meth could keep up with him, bar for bar.

Raekwon eventually commented and you can follow the rest here..

http://www.sohh.com/2009/08/breaking_joe_budden_attac.html


Joe Budden is nice and all, but who the **** is he to be calling out anybody in the clan? I didn't even know about his till I heard that diss track Deck made (which was good for someone not known for being a battle rapper......still nowhere near as good as pushing buddens though).

[Ace of Knaves]

Joe Budden seriously thinks he is better than John John? :funny: That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

[Crook]

No, he's saying that now, lyrically and flow-wise he's better than any of the Wu members.

[Ace of Knaves]

Well I'd still disagree with that. Sure they ain't as good as they were, but their "ain't as good as they were" is still better than most rappers out there today.

I mean Cuban Linx 2 is brilliant. Some of the **** Raekwon, Ghost Face, Masta Killer and Meth spit on that is right up there with their old school ****.

[Wylie Times]

Well I'd still disagree with that. Sure they ain't as good as they were, but their "ain't as good as they were" is still better than most rappers out there today.

I mean Cuban Linx 2 is brilliant. Some of the **** Raekwon, Ghost Face, Masta Killer and Meth spit on that is right up there with their old school ****.

Lyrically he can't touch anybody in the Wu.....well maybe Cappadonna, but he don't really count....He does have a better flow than Gza though. If Gza's flow was better people would be saying he's better than Rakim.

Notice how Budden makes it a habit to run his mouth about rappers he KNOWS aren't known for battling?

[KenK]

Joe thinking he's better than Meth is just laughable. It's a shame 'cause I was a big Joe Budden supporter when he first came out. He was definitely puttin' a few cats on notice when he started, in my opinion, but hasn't been all that live lately. And most would agree that he's the weakest MC on Slaughterhouse.

To say nothing of the fact that we've had three on-point releases from Wu members this year that more people were feelin' than anything Joe's put out on his own recently.

[StrainedEyes]

Joe thinking he's better than Meth is just laughable. It's a shame 'cause I was a big Joe Budden supporter when he first came out. He was definitely puttin' a few cats on notice when he started, in my opinion, but hasn't been all that live lately. And most would agree that he's the weakest MC on Slaughterhouse.

To say nothing of the fact that we've had three on-point releases from Wu members this year that more people were feelin' than anything Joe's put out on his own recently.

Yeah, I'd agree with that.

'I'm a hero, no I mean I'm Hiro from Heroes
Ya'll chase zeros
Mah****a I just got finished hatin' me
Feelin' like a zero
They played De Niro
Never been there, though' :dry:

[RockSP]

Lyrically he can't touch anybody in the Wu.....

My 10 year old niece is a better rapper than U-God and Masta Killa.

[Wylie Times]

My 10 year old niece is a better rapper than U-God and Masta Killa.

You're buggin. U-God probably is the weakest member of the Clan but lyrically he's still dope. He's not consistent enough to make an album but he's guest appearances are ill.

Masta Killa probably had arguably the best verse on 36 chambers, and a lot of standout verses on Cuban Linx, forever. His solo album was dope too. at MOST you can say Masta Killa is a second rate Gza (which makes sense since Gza mentored him).

[Ace of Knaves]

Master Killer is ****ing sick. How can this be doubted.

[terry78]

Oct 27 I may pick up that new Tech Nine.

[Aesop Rocks]

X4h4C60xQFw&feature=related

[RockSP]

Masta Killa probably had arguably the best verse on 36 chambers

Nah.

[Crook]

(http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2xsKppvrWXeCM72D)The BET Cypers are now up, and it's by far the best the show has ever had. Out of the two clips, Budden and Em were my faves. So many damn ill punchlines:



http://i33.tinypic.com/1448pw4.jpg (http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2xsKppvrWXeCM72D)
Eminem, Mos Def, Black Thought Freestyle Cypher (Marshall Goes In) (http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2xsKppvrWXeCM72D)



http://i33.tinypic.com/4tm6aw.jpg (http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh0CmK22kLFnOrY0T9)
Joe Budden. Nicki Minaj. Buckshot, & Crown Royal Freestyle Cypher (http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh0CmK22kLFnOrY0T9)

[Cmill216]

:eek: @ Em, Thought, and Mos. I mean......God.......

[RockSP]

:eek: @ Em, Thought, and Mos. I mean......God.......

I'm surprised Thought got the love he did from the crowd, as much as he's slept on. Guess that Fallon gig is paying off...

[StrainedEyes]

edit.

[StrainedEyes]

Em wasn't as good as I thought he would be. Black Thought was nice.

[Crook]

Told baby, just being real
Leave her, get balls in your mouth,
I spoke to her like Serena Will

:hehe:

You past your prime,
I ain't spit an ether yet
you need a major,
I just need an ethernet

:awesome:

Word on the street,
I made the OGs be upset,
cause I'm a student of the game,
not a teacher's pet

:woot:

When I bring the f'n drama
used to bomb ya
like Sadam but now that I'm a lil' calmer
I'm a f'n cross between Osama, Dahmer, Obama, and Dalai Lama

:wow:

My dick is so big,
if I add another inch to it,
you would swear when I raped you,
that you was actually into it!

:eek: :funny:

[KenK]

Em, Mos, and Black = lyrically crapping over MTV's entire "Hottest MCs In The Game" list!!! They were on some serious "I'm tryin' to get a goddamn record deal, goddammit!!" ish! Em did have a bit of a slow start, but he hit his stride pretty quick, then went for broke!

[RockSP]

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KRS!:word: Wale is actually nice with it...usually. This performance didn't show that, though.

[Crook]

I thought that was the worst Cypher I've seen in a while. It's why I didn't even post it. :(

[RockSP]

Eh. Wasn't any worse than the Joe Budden one. Minaj is wack and Buckshot came off wack in that instance.

[Crook]

50s album just leaked. I'll refrain from posting the album links, so here's 3 tracks:


50 Cent - The Invitation
http://usershare.net/ud6a1qpyc9qm

50 Cent ft Eminem - Psycho
http://usershare.net/rbdwk9b6n7sk

50 cent - So Disrespectful
http://usershare.net/4mfhy14prbhu


At least he's back on his "hungry" flow again...

[CrypticOne]

That song Psycho with Eminem is pretty sick. Probably my favorite track.

[StrainedEyes]

If the Microphone freestyle, Forever, and Psycho are any indication, Relapse 2 will be much better than 1.

"Man these are average raps
I'm keepin' the savage batch hidden"

[CrypticOne]

Yeah, Relapse 2 is going to be sick! I can't wait til that drops.

[Crook]

Whooaaa, where did this come from? Hot97 just premiered a DISS track towards Jay, from....Beanie???

wfRbB5CNTvA

Ya'll think Hov would bother to respond on wax?

[Colossal Spoons]

^Garbage

That Em/Thought/Mos cypher was disgustin though

[KenK]

Whooaaa, where did this come from? Hot97 just premiered a DISS track towards Jay, from....Beanie???

wfRbB5CNTvA

Ya'll think Hov would bother to respond on wax?

I would hope Jay realizes that he has better things to do.

*Make another couple million dollars
*Host a charity dinner party with Oprah
*Get Beyonce pregnant

The list goes on and on, really.

[Crook]

While true, if you're a self-proclaimed "Greatest Rapper Alive", you shouldn't really be ignoring credible threats to your rep. I understand that he can't address every rapper taking shots at him, this is Beanie. Everyone knows Beanie has credibility. So this is pretty legit.

With that said, ever since he pulled that Summerjam stunt and got ether'd, I think Jay doesn't want to ever put himself in that scenario again. He'll prolly pull Beanie aside on a personal basis. :funny:

[Colossal Spoons]

Beanie will be back in jail before he can make another diss record anyway

[Crook]

Yeah, if Jay calls the cops or feds on him, like the song said he did. :funny:

[Colossal Spoons]

Ha, I'd love to know if that's true or not

[Crook]

Whooaaa, where did this come from? Hot97 just premiered a DISS track towards Jay, from....Beanie???

wfRbB5CNTvA

Ya'll think Hov would bother to respond on wax?
Aaaaand Hov responds:

http://vimeo.com/7357590

As expected, Hov handled it like a gentleman, while simultaneously s**tting on dude from his throne. :funny:

[Colossal Spoons]

It's a well known fact that Jay sucks at promoting anybody but himself

[Aesop Rocks]

ZEBGCOCxLgA

:awesome::awesome:

[Wylie Times]

It's a well known fact that Jay sucks at promoting anybody but himself

Cause he's selfish...remember when Roc La Familia was supposed to be a compilation album and it turned into a Jay solo album. Every single artist that he's "taken under his wing" has been through some **** at some point or another. Jay is almost as bad as Diddy when it comes to that stuff.

[Manic]

Ugh, Diddy. I remember when Bad Boy had several hit artists signed to it. Now it seems like all of Diddy's artists are Making The Band winners with one decent song between them.

[ComicChick]

Ugh, Diddy. I remember when Bad Boy had several hit artists signed to it. Now it seems like all of Diddy's artists are Making The Band winners with one decent song between them.

yeah one of the girls i went to high school with got signed to Bad Boy, saw her in one vid and now i think she's since left the label and pursuing gospel (which is where she wanted to be from the get-go)

[Wylie Times]

yeah one of the girls i went to high school with got signed to Bad Boy, saw her in one vid and now i think she's since left the label and pursuing gospel (which is where she wanted to be from the get-go)

I don't get why anybody signs with that guy. He clearly has no idea how to promote artists. He just stockpiles talent to in order to make albums for himself, anybody that does release an album typically ends up going through DRASTIC changes in their life. Biggie was murdered, Mase found Jesus, Shyne was sent to prison then deported, Black Rob is in prison, Loon converted to Islam, and everyone else faded into obscurity.

[pixeltastic]

I've been listening to Kid Cudi's new album nonstop lately. :D

[Colossal Spoons]

Ugh, Diddy. I remember when Bad Boy had several hit artists signed to it. Now it seems like all of Diddy's artists are Making The Band winners with one decent song between them.

Where the hell are Loon and G-Dep anyway?

[Wylie Times]

Where the hell are Loon and G-Dep anyway?

Like I said, Loon converted to Islam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZFueqQnops

G-Dep is probably working at a Wal-Mart or something.

[RockSP]

Loon:Islam::Mase:Christianity

G-Dep's in prison, I think.

[Colossal Spoons]

I don't get why anybody signs with that guy. He clearly has no idea how to promote artists. He just stockpiles talent to in order to make albums for himself, anybody that does release an album typically ends up going through DRASTIC changes in their life. Biggie was murdered, Mase found Jesus, Shyne was sent to prison then deported, Black Rob is in prison, Loon converted to Islam, and everyone else faded into obscurity.

Haha, where'd they send Shyne to? Poor Black Rob :(

Carl Thomas was signed under him as well right? Diddy's R&B artists get it too :(

[Wylie Times]

Haha, where'd they send Shyne to? Poor Black Rob :(

Carl Thomas was signed under him as well right? Diddy's R&B artists get it too :(

Shyne got deported to Belize where he was born...He should be straight though as his pops is the Prime Minister.

I'm not sure what happened to Carl Thomas but he was talented as hell. Nobody escapes Diddy unscathed. That guy from making da band is making youtube videos wearing suits that's three sizes too big.

[RockSP]

Carl Thomas has been off Bad Boy for a while. I think he released an album on an indie label.

[terry78]

One hit wonders like a mug.

[Johnny Drama]

Wow I forgot all about Loon...

[Manic]

I remember Loon had that one song of his, plus he appeared in a song by Dream (the girl group, not The Dream) when they entered their "sexy" sophomore phase.

[Johnny Drama]

Aaaaand Hov responds:

http://vimeo.com/7357590

As expected, Hov handled it like a gentleman, while simultaneously s**tting on dude from his throne. :funny:

Beanie is a joke, and he peaked too early, if ever really at all.

[RockSP]

Wow I forgot all about Loon...

That's as it should be.

Dude was a wacker Mase (if that's even possible...)

[Crook]

Woooow, no wonder 50 has been talking about this whole Beanie/Jay thing ALL week. They just announced it...

Beanie SIGNS to G-Unit! :eek:

http://forbezdvd.com/cod.php?v=ODg4Mw

[CrypticOne]

Woooow, no wonder 50 has been talking about this whole Beanie/Jay thing ALL week. They just announced it...

Beanie SIGNS to G-Unit! :eek:

http://forbezdvd.com/cod.php?v=ODg4Mw

Holy *****!!!!

[RockSP]

I expect the same results as "Mase signs to G-Unit", "M.O.P. signs to G-Unit", and "Mobb Deep signs to G-Unit".

[Wylie Times]

I expect the same results as "Mase sign to G-Unit", "M.O.P. signs to G-Unit", and "Mobb Deep signs to G-Unit".

This pretty much happens with EVERY hot label of the moment...The label has a bunch of artist who have the exact same sound then they sign some highly respected veteran MC and said MC releases lackluster music or get put on the shelf.

[Manic]

I expect the same results as "Mase signs to G-Unit", "M.O.P. signs to G-Unit", and "Mobb Deep signs to G-Unit".
So... we'll never hear from him again?

[RockSP]

So... we'll never hear from him again?

[Phil Hartman as Ed McMahon]You are correct, sir![/Phil Hartman as Ed McMahon]

[Ace of Knaves]

Haha, where'd they send Shyne to? Poor Black Rob :(

Carl Thomas was signed under him as well right? Diddy's R&B artists get it too :(

Like Whoa!!!

That was a sick tune, I remember that when I was in my last year of school. Any one heard the remix with Elephant Man n that? It's dutty tune.

[SouLeSS]

Anyone else pick up Tech Nines KOD? Probably not, but you should. Most of the tracks are banging as hell, and tech's the master of lyrics as always.

[alexdunn]

I've been listening to Kid Cudi's new album nonstop lately. :D

Me too! It's great! Truly enjoyable and new.

[Colossal Spoons]

Like Whoa!!!

That was a sick tune, I remember that when I was in my last year of school. Any one heard the remix with Elephant Man n that? It's dutty tune.

You ever hear the 10 minute remix to "Whoa"? It had like ever rapper ever in it haha

[ComicChick]

link

[AndThePickles]

You ever hear the 10 minute remix to "Whoa"? It had like ever rapper ever in it haha

That remix was entirely too long. Just when you thought it was ending, someone new came in.

[Bunker]

Anyone else pick up Tech Nines KOD? Probably not, but you should. Most of the tracks are banging as hell, and tech's the master of lyrics as always.

I just started to listening to it. "Demons" is probably my favorite so far.

[chamber-music]

Beanie Sigel to Sign With G-Unit, Calls Jay-Z 'a Crumb'

Last week Beanie Sigel (http://www.theboombox.com/tag/BeanieSigel/) unleashed the Jay-Z (http://www.theboombox.com/tag/JayZ/) diss track 'Average Cat,' which hit home hard enough to illicit a response (http://www.theboombox.com/2009/11/02/jay-z-beanie-sigel/)from the Brooklyn rapper. Sigel's recent mission to salt old Roc-A-Fella wounds didn't stop there. Sigel has become chummy with part-time Jay-Z hater 50 Cent (http://www.theboombox.com/tag/50Cent/), but not just for the sake of beef -- there was business at hand.

"Beans is coming to G-Unit," the G-Unit CEO announced on Philadelphia's Power 99 radio station this past Tuesday (Nov. 3). And although this deal comes as news to most of the hip-hop community, 50 explained that he's long had an interest in signing Beanie but was deterred by the Philadelphia rapper's former boss. "I thought that [Jay-Z] felt that he would be losing something to me, when they wouldn't do the deal," 50 said.

50, who has had warring words with Jay-Z throughout the years, said he was willing to drop big bucks on Sigel during his peak. "It was at least $800,000 ... at least with the heat that was around him at that point," he said. "I'll tell you what I paid for Mobb Deep -- that was at least $800,000 at that point. There's no way [Beanie Sigel] wouldn't have got that." The details of the new contract have not yet been confirmed but it seems that Sigel's alliance with 50 stands firm. Following the new partnership announcement, Beanie jumped in to address Jay-Z's allegations that he squandered away the opportunities he was handed, including a record label and a clothing line. "You didn't give me a record label," Sigel defended. "It only cost a couple hundred to search the name, State Property Records. I think I paid another couple hundred dollars and I patented the LLC company. My record label only cost me $700 ... maybe $750. I did that on my own."

Sigel also went on to make it clear that his fallout with Jay-Z wasn't over financial disputes, but because of a lack of loyalty. He accused Jay of not having his back at a 2004 weapons trial. "When he was on the stand," Sigel explained, "He spoke good things about me -- I'm an incredible artist, this and that. So, [the judge] said, 'So, if I was to release him today to continue to go on the Roc The Mic Tour together, would you be willing to be responsible for his whereabouts?' And it was silence ... and he said 'No.' Sigel vowed to continue his tirade against the former Roc-A-Fella CEO until there was satisfactory retaliation. "He is a crumb. I'm gonna put my foot on his neck until he responds," Beanie said. "Please make a record."

Here we go again :whatever:

[Wylie Times]

How could anyone be shocked that Jay-Z has no loyalty? Jaz-O, Amil, Peedi crack, Foxy Brown, Dame Dash and a host of others should be evidence that Jay don't give a damn about anybody lol

[Crook]

"Bleek could be one hit away his whole career,
but as long as I'm alive,
he's a millionaire.."

I wouldn't be one bit surprised if all those peeps he cut off ties with did some greasy ish. S**t happens when you're one of the biggest artists around.

And why is Beans mad about that court thing? Another man shouldn't be held responsible for your actions, and you sure as hell can't expect him to when you're in trial for being irresponsible. :funny:

[Wylie Times]

"Bleek could be one hit away his whole career,
but as long as I'm alive,
he's a millionaire.."

I wouldn't be one bit surprised if all those peeps he cut off ties with did some greasy ish. S**t happens when you're one of the biggest artists around.

And why is Beans mad about that court thing? Another man shouldn't be held responsible for your actions, and you sure as hell can't expect him to when you're in trial for being irresponsible. :funny:

It's more likely that Bleek has some dirt on him than EVERYBODY else doing him greasy...Think about it nearly EVERYONE that Jay was thought to be tight with has some degree of beef with him now.

[Bond]

Beanie Sigel been smokin that la-la-la?!

[RockSP]

It's more likely that Bleek has some dirt on him than EVERYBODY else doing him greasy...Think about it nearly EVERYONE that Jay was thought to be tight with has some degree of beef with him now.

Or Bleek is smart enough to stay in his place. He ain't @#$% with Jay, he probably realizes he'll be less than #$%@ without him.

[Wylie Times]

Or Bleek is smart enough to stay in his place. He ain't @#$% with Jay, he probably realizes he'll be less than #$%@ without him.

Meh, It's still way too many people who have issues with that guy for it to never be his fault. Especially when you look at the situations with Dame and Jaz.

[RockSP]

Oh, I'm not saying he's never at fault. I'm not one of the Jay Hova worshippers.

[Crook]

Meh, It's still way too many people who have issues with that guy for it to never be his fault. Especially when you look at the situations with Dame and Jaz.
You gotta look at it on the other side of the coin as well. None of these people are s**t without him. Could very well be stemming from jealousy and/or the "you need to give me more!" complex.

Oh, I'm not saying he's never at fault. I'm not one of the Jay Hova worshippers.
Jigga Warriors is the proper term.

[Wylie Times]

You gotta look at it on the other side of the coin as well. None of these people are s**t without him. Could very well be stemming from jealousy and/or the "you need to give me more!" complex.

In the case of Bigg, Dame, and Jaz, Jay wouldn't be where he is today without them. Hell most of the significant signings to the roc-a-fella label was done by Dame.

and also from everything that's been said it's not so much a "you need to give me more" thing as it seems to be a "don't step on my neck and keep me down" kinda thing. There was some truth to what Beans said about Jay always having singles coming out at the same time his did, and I still bug off the fact that a group album for the label suddenly turned into a Jay-Z solo album.

And for the record I'm saying all of this as someone who is actually a big fan of Jay. I was actually listening to American Gangster earlier today.

[RockSP]

In the case of Bigg, Dame, and Jaz, Jay wouldn't be where he is today without them. Hell most of the significant signings to the roc-a-fella label was done by Dame.

Indeed. Jay didn't give a damn about Kanye until he blew up.

[Crook]

In the case of Bigg, Dame, and Jaz, Jay wouldn't be where he is today without them. Hell most of the significant signings to the roc-a-fella label was done by Dame.
Those three gave him a start. At the end of the day, Jay made himself, and no one can truly take credit for that.

and also from everything that's been said it's not so much a "you need to give me more" thing as it seems to be a "don't step on my neck and keep me down" kinda thing. There was some truth to what Beans said about Jay always having singles coming out at the same time his did, and I still bug off the fact that a group album for the label suddenly turned into a Jay-Z solo album.
Let's be real here though, did Beanie EVER have what it takes to blow up? Ditto for anyone else in the Roc? I really don't think so. That doesn't excuse whatever mishaps happened during his promo time, but there are 3 sides to a story, so I'm not about to just believe one over the other.

[Wylie Times]

Those three gave him a start. At the end of the day, Jay made himself, and no one can truly take credit for that.

Jaz gave Jay his start, but Bigg and Dame were his partners and were the main ones behind the business side of things, I'm not saying they "made" Jay but they both played huge roles in his success.

I still bug off the fact that Jay didn't want to originally sign the dip set.


Let's be real here though, did Beanie EVER have what it takes to blow up? Ditto for anyone else in the Roc? I really don't think so. That doesn't excuse whatever mishaps happened during his promo time, but there are 3 sides to a story, so I'm not about to just believe one over the other.

He was NEVER going to be huge superstar but he had the potential and buzz to be much bigger than he is now...If it were just one or two people who used to work with him that had a problem with this dude I'd agree with you. When Jaz suddenly started taking shots at Jay it I thought it was due to jealous, but when more and more people start being pissed at him and they're all saying he did the same or similar things to him. I don't think it's a reach to come to the conclusion that Jay is doing people dirty.

[CrypticOne]

Has anyone seen the Wu-Massacre trailers yet? Its for Method, Rae, and Ghost's new album coming out in December. Can't wait for this project.

[Godman]

Hip Hop needs a change...too much trash on radiohttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=331230#) it's unbalanced...

I only have doe for one of these to get sent of to be professionally mastered etc so without any non constructive HATE i need a quick poll round up that i'll end by the end of the day so I can see which is more receptive for radio or single material. I've had several people pick and choose but better with people who listen to everything and that's Superherohype if anything... SO please help me out here guys...

also add y u chose what u chose. Not what's doper, but what's smarter to push as a single or which is just HOTTER...

Thanks in advance for those who take it seriously enough to be mature and vote accordingly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJCfTq7it_I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IUFrS5SBNM

[ComicChick]

the links don't work

[Godman]

the links don't work

damn it

[Godman]

the links don't work


should work now. them wraps are stupid it should be automatic

[Colossal Spoons]

Jigga Warriors is the proper term.

I was lookin for a new user title :o

[chamber-music]

the guardian music section has a pretty intresting article about Tech N9ne.

anyone else intrested in damon dash/black keys (rock/rap project) blackroc. Guestlist inclues Mos Def, RZA, Q-Tip, Raekwon, Ludacris ect

[RockSP]

I still bug off the fact that Jay didn't want to originally sign the dip set.


Well Cam'ron had dissed him multiple times on record. Obviously Dame was the one behind those cornballs getting signed.

[echostation]

do you guys like lupe fiasco?

[Manic]

You just hit the Lupe Fiasco fan jackpot, mutha ******!


I mean, yes I like Lupe Fiasco.

[alexdunn]

do you guys like lupe fiasco?


Absolutely. He's great.

[Wylie Times]

Well Cam'ron had dissed him multiple times on record. Obviously Dame was the one behind those cornballs getting signed.

And? Jay would have been getting a decent cut of whatever profits were earned from Cam dissing him. Business wise it was a stupid move. I can't stand most of that dipset garbage but they were incredibly popular.

[RockSP]

I meant he had been dissing Jay before he was signed to the Roc. Jay's probably not going to turn around and sign Jaz-O to Roc Nation tomorrow. Plus I'd say they were more "up and coming" as a crew at that time than incredibly popular.

Either way, they did end up signed to label...thanks to Dame and Biggs. Hell Dame made Cam "Vice-President" or something.

[Godman]

Hip Hop needs a change...too much trash on radiohttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=331230#) it's unbalanced...

I only have doe for one of these to get sent of to be professionally mastered etc so without any non constructive HATE i need a quick poll round up that i'll end by the end of the day so I can see which is more receptive for radio or single material. I've had several people pick and choose but better with people who listen to everything and that's Superherohype if anything... SO please help me out here guys...

also add y u chose what u chose. Not what's doper, but what's smarter to push as a single or which is just HOTTER...

Thanks in advance for those who take it seriously enough to be mature and vote accordingly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJCfTq7it_I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IUFrS5SBNM

[chamber-music]

do you guys like lupe fiasco?

The guys one of the few reasons I still listen to rap music

[knowsbleed]

The future is NOW!:

“Just chillin’” with Dame Dash may have just spawned a rap supergroup project. On Wednesday, at Dash’s new facility (art gallery, TV studio, music studio and more), DD172, critically acclaimed underground lyricist Curren$y told MTV News (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1625597/20091105/mos_def.jhtml) that he, Jay Electronica and
Mos Def


have combined forces to start recording an entire album together. “That’s ridiculous!” Curren$y said. “Jay Electronica is from my city, he’s from New Orleans. I never met homie until I stepped foot in this building. He came here to meet Mos. And Mos, I had only known him for 24 hours prior to that. But genuine people could recognize [each other], it was like, ‘Let’s go.’ ”
Curren$y said Mos came up with the name of “Center Edge Territory” for the trio. When asked exactly what the moniker means, Curren$y would only comment emphatically, “Everything! That’s everything!


“We all know the game is in turmoil. We know the machine messed it up,” he added, explaining why they will be putting their music out independently instead of with a major label. “We know we don’t even need to play that game, especially with access to all of this sh–. We are our own machine.”
So far, Center Edge Territory have recorded six records together, but they have no concrete plans as to when the full-length album will drop.


Mos Def


Jay Electronica


Curren$y




... with them together... who needs Talib. I'm looking forward to this like no other before it.

[Neptune]

Definitely, Jay Electra and Mos is a powerful duo. Who is Currensy?

[knowsbleed]

He was with No Limit and Cash Money back in the day. I don't normally like that style of rapping but I dig his:

HcgvW-KzJNw

[Blackman]

How does everybody feel about "Baby By Me" by 50?

I like the hook, the beat, & even the video is really nice but 50s lyrics are...bad

He used to be real good. He fell off hard though. BISD was pretty wack too. I only kept a few songs

[Colossal Spoons]

I hate that song. Pretty much done w/ Curtis at this point.

[AndThePickles]

That song makes me angry.

[Bunker]

Almost a month away from Lasers. It'll probably leak before then, but I'm still going to buy it.

Pretty much foaming at the mouth with anticipation.

[theShape]

Ne-Yo is that dude, though.

[Blackman]

Also, to me, the Clipse have fallen off hard too.
Every song Ive heard of Til the Casket Drop has been mediocre at best. There verses on the Kardinall Offishall song were nice but their solo stuff is meh

[Wylie Times]

How does everybody feel about "Baby By Me" by 50?

I like the hook, the beat, & even the video is really nice but 50s lyrics are...bad

He used to be real good. He fell off hard though. BISD was pretty wack too. I only kept a few songs

You just described most of 50's career. :hehe:

[Colossal Spoons]

I still like Clipse. Kinda Like a big Deal is tight.

bit "meh" to Ne-Yo though.

[Colossal Spoons]

I still like Clipse. Kinda Like a big Deal is tight.

bit "meh" to Ne-Yo though.

[AndThePickles]

I think Ne-Yo has consistently proven himself to be extremely talented. I hate his dancing, but as long as I don't watch his videos I usually enjoy his music a lot.

[Crook]

I still like Clipse. Kinda Like a big Deal is tight.

bit "meh" to Ne-Yo though.
I'm really feeling that newly leaked Neptunes track on the cut:

http://limelinx.com/files/36440e7b8d13ec716ba072479f21fb11

Clipse is prolly the only group of rappers I give a pass on the constant drug-talk. Their swag is too real. :o

Ne-Yo is that dude, though.
Dude's a female on the inside. If you look up the credits for half the R&B hits by women, they were all written by him. :funny:

[bunk]

I haven't bought any albums beside Blueprint 3 this year. What else is worth picking up?

[knowsbleed]

Mos Def, Black Thought and Em... DJ Premier... what more could you ask for?

_EfmWArwzAs

[Ace of Knaves]

And Cuban Linx 2!!

[chamber-music]

Clipse is prolly the only group of rappers I give a pass on the constant drug-talk. Their swag is too real. :o

Me too. As I'm not American or a drug dealer half the stuff they said went over my head but after watching every season of The Wire I understand what their talking about now :awesome:
I haven't bought any albums beside Blueprint 3 this year. What else is worth picking up?

Jay Z was awesome on the Jools Holland show last week you should check out his performance on youtube.

Anyway as knowsbleed Mos Def's The Ecstatic.

upcoming stuff worth looking out for include Blakroc album. Its a rap/rock project by The Black Keys and Dame Dash featuring Mos Def, Jim Jones, ODB, RZA, Raekwon, Pharoahe Monch, Ludacris, Q-Tip and others.

The clipse new album is worth getting when that drops too.

Dizzee Rascal Tongue 'N' Cheek album.

Boy Better Know & Plan B are worth checking out as is Adam F Feat Redman - Shut The Lights Off.

[Ace of Knaves]

I love Dizzee's new album. Dirty Cash is a sick tune.

[chamber-music]

Dirty Cash is awesome!

Cool to see rappers rhyme about the credit crunch and current affairs stuff rather than girls, cars, money all the time.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea Dizzee has really matured as an MC. Now don't get me wrong I love his grimey stuff too, some of his best verses ever were on his first album and that tune "Graftin'" is just sick. But yea, it's cool to see him chat about current affairs n that.

[ComicChick]

Me too. As I'm not American or a drug dealer half the stuff they said went over my head but after watching every season of The Wire I understand what their talking about now :awesome:


Jay Z was awesome on the Jools Holland show last week you should check out his performance on youtube.


The clipse new album is worth getting when that drops too.

Dizzee Rascal Tongue 'N' Cheek album.

Boy Better Know & Plan B are worth checking out as is Adam F Feat Redman - Shut The Lights Off.

its already out

[chamber-music]

I thought the Clipse Till the Casket Drops was delayed and they were releasing it on december 8th :huh:

[chamber-music]

Yea Dizzee has really matured as an MC. Now don't get me wrong I love his grimey stuff too, some of his best verses ever were on his first album and that tune "Graftin'" is just sick. But yea, it's cool to see him chat about current affairs n that.

I like Grime but any MC that gets success is straight away called a sellout by half grime scene :o

[Ace of Knaves]

That's because most of them are more bothered about "keep it real" rather than actually becoming artists.

[knowsbleed]

I'm digging The Cool Kids. Probably because of their beats. They do my new Solobarics justice.

[Bunker]

Wale's Attention Deficit is legit. :up:

[Super_Ludacris]

Its been awhile people....

Wale's album is so-so (The mixtapes are still nicer), Rakim's is okay...

Best albums of recent memory:
Rae-OBFCL2
Royce-Street Hop
Jigga-BP3
Kid Cudi-Man on the Moon

Albums to look forward to
Wu Massacre-Ghost/Rae/Meth album (the trailers are ill)
Clipse-Till the Casket Drops
Lupe Fiasco-Lasers (Wasalu gotta hurry up with this)
The Roots album (I love How I Got Over)
Redman-9 1/2
Nas and Damien Marley-Distant Relatives (hope Esco can sort out his problems and this and his solo joint in 2010 can drop. Hold your head up Nas. One.)
BOB-(Bobby Ray is the truth)

[knowsbleed]

I never really understood the infatuation with Clipse. I've either seen people love them... or hate them. I lean more toward the latter I think. They are just too boring. If it weren't for their beats... they would just bore the hell out of me.

[Super_Ludacris]

There pretty dope with the rhyme sceme. Plus you know, Coke Rap is always popular (Ghost and Rae, Esco, Early Hov, AZ)

[knowsbleed]

Out of the ones you've listed... I'm only looking forward to Roots and Lupe.

I'm moreso looking forward to that Mos, Curren$y and Jay Electronica collabo.

[Super_Ludacris]

Spitta!

[terry78]

Some kid sitting behind me on the train is basically explaining to someone why Lil Wayne is better than Ghostface Killah. :dry:

[Ace of Knaves]

Slap him for me Terry.

What is he actually saying? I can't believe that is actually happening.

[terry78]

"Hey, do you know who Lil Wayne is, right?"

"Yeah."

"Do you know who Ghostface Killah is?"

"No."

"Well, there you go."



That was what he based his argument on.

[Ace of Knaves]

For serious?!?! That makes me lose a little more faith in humanity.

I'd honestly feel compelled to turn round and give im a clip round the ear hole.

[Super_Ludacris]

If he didnt know who Ghost was, why was his man arguging? lol

[Cmill216]

"Hey, do you know who Lil Wayne is, right?"

"Yeah."

"Do you know who Ghostface Killah is?"

"No."

"Well, there you go."


I'm not sure if that's hysterical or just flat out depressing.

[Firm]

Can't bloody wait for BoB

[Super_Ludacris]

Can't bloody wait for BoB

April 2010

But he got a gang of fire mixtapes.

That's my dude right there too

[bunk]

I want that Wale album.

[Paroxysm]

I've been bumpin Kid Cudi for the last few days, he's pretty dope.
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[Cmill216]

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1626811/20091120/story.jhtml

[ComicChick]

oh snap!

[louiebling$]

Hella yea can't wait for it :up:

[SolarTiger]

always good to have some new lupe.

[Bunker]

Sweet jesus Enemy of the State is such a good mixtape.

I can't even imagine how sick LASERS is going to be. God damn.

[knowsbleed]

I hate to admit it... but I think Lupe's flow has been influenced by Lil Wayne a lil bit.

[ComicChick]

:csad:

[knowsbleed]

He makes it sound better though... so life balances itself out.

[louiebling$]

Ok good cuz lil wayne is overated garbage:barf:...... all he has are punchlines..... that's it :o

[KenK]

I hate to admit it... but I think Lupe's flow has been influenced by Lil Wayne a lil bit.

Please leave. :cmad:

[SolarTiger]

I hate to admit it... but I think Lupe's flow has been influenced by Lil Wayne a lil bit.
I was thinking that when I first heard Shining Down.

[StrainedEyes]

Here is a new interview with Eminem -
http://www.complex.com/CELEBRITIES/Cover-Story/Eminem?page=1

"You're right, my thinking became sharper again as I went along. If you were to take a song like "My Mom" or "Must Be the Ganja," those were cool—but they were the beginning stages of me coming out of the [addiction]. It wasn't until it got into songs like "Stay Wide Awake" that it felt like my mind got sharper. I became more on-point towards the end of recording the album. Right now, I feel like I'm more focused than I've ever been. I still feel like I have room to get better but I feel like I'm definitely on my game right now."

"When I finished Relapse, I had a whole album of material that didn't make it that I wasn't ready to throw away, so that was going to be Relapse 2," Em offered. "But then I got with Dre in Hawaii and started recording more, and now the new material has knocked out all the old songs. But yeah, the new material is definitely different.

"Making Relapse, I was still working the drugs out of my system, so there was a lot of ... just jokey sh--," he explained. "It was a lot of punch line-y, funny, shock value — kind of going back to The Slim Shady LP. And that was cool, but I've kind of flipped the page. Now I'm going for songs instead of one-liners. I don't want to make sh-- that you hear once and then the joke's over — I want to make records that you could play a hundred times, a thousand times."

Good to hear, hopefully he pulls through with something really good. :up:

[knowsbleed]

Please leave. :cmad:

I was thinking that when I first heard Shining Down.

See, I'm not the only one. And yeah... I thought it back when I heard it as well... but I was in denial. :csad:

[Firm]

Eminem's songs off of Relapse: Refill are leaking, 2 had just leaked. To be honest, both are great.

[StrainedEyes]

The 5 new songs from Relapse Refill are all pretty good. Some great flows.

Music Box
Buffalo Bill
Elevator
Drop The Bomb On 'Em
Hell Breaks Loose
:up:

[CrypticOne]

Yeah, the new Em songs are great. My personal favorite is Music Box.

[Aesop Rocks]

kPCcf4XNeOg

[Bunker]

Pursuit of Happiness music video:

http://miunex.blogspot.com/2009/12/kid-cudi-pursuit-of-happiness-feat-mgmt.html

yawn

[Bunker]

Pursuit of Happiness music video:

http://miunex.blogspot.com/2009/12/kid-cudi-pursuit-of-happiness-feat-mgmt.html

Pretty much just a bunch of slo mo shots of people drinking and a really long and out of place Drake cameo. Cudi, I am disappoint.

[Flint Marko]

I'm not that much a rap guy anymore, but I've always had a special place in my heart for Three 6 mafia. Their older stuff is leaps and bounds ahead of what they're makin now, but their new stuff is still awesome in my opinion. Any of yall heard that song they did with Techn9ne, 'Shots after shots'? Look it up on youtube.

[Crook]

The "long-awaited" direct collabo between Weezy and Em just leaked earlier today. Can't link it, but you can easily find it on YouTube.

So after years of Wayne calling him out, Em finally puts out. So who do ya'll think won?

[KenK]

The "long-awaited" direct collabo between Weezy and Em just leaked earlier today. Can't link it, but you can easily find it on YouTube.

So after years of Wayne calling him out, Em finally puts out. So who do ya'll think won?

Well, I think this is supposed to be a track off of Wayne's "rock" ( :hehe: ) album, so it doesn't seem like he's putting all his effort into actually rapping. But even if he did, I'd say Em put an end to any debate people may have had.