The Hip Hop Thread

[Call Me Darkman]

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart_watch/52862/week-ending-may-9-2010-starting-the-recovery-process/

Eminem's "Not Afraid," the first single from his upcoming album Recovery, enters the Hot 100 at #1. It's the first song to debut in the top spot since Britney Spears' "3" did it in October. It's only the second rap song ever to debut at #1, following "I'll Be Missing You" by Puff Daddy & Faith Evans (featuring 112) in 1997. "Not Afraid" is Eminem's third #1 on the Hot 100, following "Lose Yourself," his Oscar-winning smash from 8 Mile, and "Crack A Bottle," his all-star collaboration with Dr. Dre and 50 Cent.

"Not Afraid" sold 379,000 copies in its first week. That's the biggest weekly sales tally so far this year. Only three songs in digital history have sold more copies in their first week. All were 2009 releases: Flo Rida's "Right Round" (636,000), the Black Eyed Peas' "Boom Boom Pow" (465,000) and the aforementioned "Crack A Bottle" (418,000).

"Not Afraid" posted the biggest weekly sales total since Ke$ha's "Tik ToK" rang up sales of 394,000 in the week ending Jan. 3. (That was the final week of the 2009 chart year.)

Recovery, Eminem's sixth studio album, is due for release on June 22. Eminem's last album, Relapse, debuted at #1 in May 2009. It posted first-week sales of 608,000 copies. Only one album, Susan Boyle's I Dreamed A Dream, sold more copies in any one week last year.

"Not Afraid" also enters Hot Digital Songs at #1. It's Eminem's fifth #1 on that list, following "Just Lose It" in 2004, "When I'm Gone" in 2005," "Smack That" in 2006 (an Akon smash on which he was featured) and "Crack A Bottle." ("Lose Yourself" was released in September 2002, nine months before the introduction of the Digital Tracks chart. The anthemic hit has sold 2,702,000 copies.)

[vanson]

does someone know what song this is ?

HkeXEclt6kE

[RockSP]

Picked up Little Brother's final (:csad:) album the other day. Looking forward to their solo efforts.

[ComicChick]

final? :(

whats it called?

[RockSP]

final? :(

Yep. Unfortunately.

whats it called?

LEFTBACK

[ComicChick]

ill have to look for it. any tracks you recommend?

[The Geek Vault]

Can anyone recomend some more hipster-hop to me. I really like Chiddy Bang and Kid Cudi and B.o.B does anyone know any other artists that have this kind of sound?

[Aesop Rocks]

Aesop Rock. :awesome: :csad:

[terry78]

Talib Kweli and Hi-Tek's newest one.

[RockSP]

ill have to look for it. any tracks you recommend?

Tigallo for Dolo, Revenge, So Cold, 24 are the stand outs for me (keep in mind I've only heard it all the way through a couple times)

[ComicChick]

thanks for the recommendations RockSP, i gotta check this album out soon

[Poetic Chaos]

My friend had 2 tracks from The Game on a mix CD that totally go me on his wagon. Better Days from his upcoming The R.E.D. Album and Red Bandana which I don't think is on any of his official albums. Better Days is one of those "keepin it real" tracks along the lines of Changes or Life Goes On from 2pac. Red Bandana is just raw as hell and badass while talkin **** about 50 cent. Anything else from this guy anyone would recommend?

Red Bandana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeIlaUdFB_w

Better Days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8fEEp7Z8tU

[Crook]

Damn, Em isn't playing around with this reinvention phase:

http://rapradar.com/2010/05/27/eminem-recovery-tracklist/
http://rapradar.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/eminem-album-cover-large.png?w=450&h=450 (http://rapradar.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/eminem-album-cover-large.png)




1. Cold Wind Blows
2. Talkin’ 2 Myself Feat. Kobe
3. On Fire
4. Won’t Back Down Ft. Pink
5. W.T.P.
6. Going Through Changes
7. Not Afraid
8. Seduction
9. No Love Ft. Lil Wayne
10. Space Bound
11. Cinderella Man
12. 25 to Life
13. So Bad
14. Almost Famous
15. Love the Way You Lie Ft. Rihanna
16. You’re Never Over



Dude got a feature with Rihanna and Pink?! :eek:

[bunk]

I wouldn't even guess that was an Em album if I didn't already know.

[KenK]

Damn, Em isn't playing around with this reinvention phase:

http://rapradar.com/2010/05/27/eminem-recovery-tracklist/

Dude got a feature with Rihanna and Pink?! :eek:

:wow:

[Crook]

Kanye's back:

http://usershare.net/dmd9ej2sziz8

I don't know if this is just a street single reintroducing Ye back to the rap game, but it's definitely mainstream friendly. Either way, the beat bangs. Hard. http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/yes.gif

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I ****s with that song :up:

[The Batman]

Its nice to see Kanye bite back after the overblown backlash to the VMA incident, and I hope we see him go after some more people, not just snl.

[Poetic Chaos]

The new T.I. single with Keri Hilson is fire.

[Nightmare]

Damn, Em isn't playing around with this reinvention phase:

http://rapradar.com/2010/05/27/eminem-recovery-tracklist/

Dude got a feature with Rihanna and Pink?! :eek:

Kobe?!

[StrainedEyes]

Eminem ft. Pink - Won't Back Down
http://rapradar.com/2010/06/03/new-music-eminem-x-pink-wont-back-down/

[ComicChick]

That BOB and Hayley song Airplane is really growing on me. i may have to get his album

edit:
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a cool cover of B.O.B's Airplanes, no rapping. By lisa Scinta

[Crook]

Terrible. Em is 0/2 with me so far on this new album. But then again so was Relapse and I liked it enough.

I just don't think this career reinvention is really right for him as an artist. It's strange because he's becoming a more conventional rapper with his production and guest features. Usually that's a sign of trying to reach mainstream. But as we all know, he's already there.

I know not many are going to agree with me on this, but Jay is the perfect example of how to evolve and progress with your music. He's not nearly the way he was in his prime, but the guy has a good ear for the type of songs to make. And he's also consciously aware of what's right for him to rap about. I feel like Em is chasing some sort of appeasement threshold that he'll never attain. Relapse was for the hardcore fans who've been listening to him since his Slim Shady days. Recovery is starting to be like Em trying to carve out a new fanbase that didn't really like his usual artistic sensibilities.

[Aesop Rocks]

Loving that Power song by Kanye. Thanks Crook! :up: :yay:

[StrainedEyes]

Eminem, Royce Da 5′9″ and Mr. Porter’s Tim Westwood Freestyle drops tomorrow.

A snippet was released. Em and Royce sound good, Porter is mediocre as always.

[RockSP]

Porter's production is his strength.

[Nightmare]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBQ-QRowBZg

15 seconds snippet of eminem's new "not afraid" music video

[KenK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBQ-QRowBZg

15 seconds snippet of eminem's new "not afraid" music video


Whole Vid's here (http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2010/06/eminem-not-afraid-video).

I'm also liking Rah Digga's new song (http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2010/06/download-rah-digga-this-aint-no-little-kid-rap).

Going to see her when I go to the Spill Con in Austin.

[ComicChick]

Rah is back? Yay

[TheAQU4M4N]

Recovery defintely ****s on anything Em has done since 8 mile.

[Firm18]

Recovery - Eargasm.

Perfect.

[Bunker]

This is definitely Em's most personal album in a while. ****ing LOVING it.

[Nightmare]

Been hearing Recovery since last night. ****'s crazyyy, amazing.

[Crook]

I'm on my third listen to Recovery, initial impressions are that this is Em's most complete and focused album since TES. His last two efforts definitely seemed like he wasn't really comfortable as an artist. Encore was some lame attempt at a record while on drugs, and Relapse was proving to the hip-hop heads that he could still spit, but was full of random raps. I've never heard someone trash their work so much as he just did on this entire album ("the last two didn't count" and "f**k my last CD, that s**t is in the trash"). :funny:

Recovery has a theme and an Eminem with a clear head. I think it's safe to say we can say goodbye to the SS/MM rapper, as this is clearly someone who has evolved past that. The production is nothing, NOTHING, like the Eminem of old. He's changed up the entire scale and direction of his songs. If anyone has been tired of Em for the last few years, I'd recommend checking this one out to see if he can recapture their ears again. His distinct style is spread throughout; the angry flow, the constant singing (his most in his career), the crazy multi's. But the introduction of a new production crew delivers a fresh, even melodically-inclined Eminem. This is no doubt his most mainstream friendly, yet most personal record to date.

This is the type of album I'll have to give multiple listens and a lot of time to really gauge where in his catalogue this rates as. But for the first time in a long time I feel like Eminem isn't confused anymore. He's an artist of a new-age now, and a comparison to post-Black Album Jay isn't unfounded. They're past their primes, but they haven't gone on a steep decline and instead are coasting on a comfortable pace that puts most of today's rapper to shame.

[StrainedEyes]

Finally listened to Recovery... that is a damn solid album.

[Firm18]

The great thing about this album is, that there isn't any skip-thru songs.
I don't mind his singing at all.....but, You're Never Over is just too much, the chorus is bad.

[Crook]

As solid as it is, I feel like there are no milestone moments on the album. There's no "Rock Bottom", "Stan", "Till I Collapse", or "Lose Yourself". The best he has here is very good, but nothing exceptional that will be remembered in a few years. I guess that's where a little of my disappointment is.

[Firm18]

Hmm I kinda agree, but this might be because I love every single song, and I find the whole album to be so good that I don't skip nothing. I guess time will tell.

[TheAQU4M4N]

after a few listens i have to say the stand out track are "25 to Life", "Love The Way You Lie", "Talkin' To Myself" and probably "So Bad"

[CrypticOne]

The great thing about this album is, that there isn't any skip-thru songs.
I don't mind his singing at all.....but, You're Never Over is just too much, the chorus is bad.

You're Never Over is probably my favorite track on the album. Dope.

[Cmill216]

So here's my problem with Drake:

Is the dude talented? Absolutely. While his wordplay isn't overly complex, and he's not much of a technical wizard, the dude can flow with the best of them. No question.

But the problem I have with this cat is that he really has absolutely nothing to say. And ultimately, it makes Thank Me Later an uneven listening experience.

Hip hop is about a specific individual struggle. An angle. But Drake doesn't have one. His entire record is devoted solely to his sudden fame, to the point that it's almost too self-aware. And it begs the question: what is this dude going to be rapping about two albums from now?

No matter how many sparse, dark backdrops the dude has on his record, the melancholy derived from his purported struggles with women feels artificial. I understand the concept of the trials and tribulations of fame, but is that really a tangible subject for your debut release? Is that really how you're going to announce yourself to the world?

You intentionally go out of your way to achieve success, and then you spend the entirety of your first record complaining about it. How does that make any sense?

At the end of the day, Drake's gonna have a great career because he can flat out ride a beat. But if he wants to attain the level of respect and status of the legends he believes he can hang with (and subsequently whine about being amongst) the dude needs to find a sense of focus outside of his surface level here and now.

[Aesop Rocks]

Watching the video for "**** **** Stack" by Reggie Watts has me asking who this is:

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3654/womanj.png :wow:

[Colossal Spoons]

So here's my problem with Drake:

Is the dude talented? Absolutely. While his wordplay isn't overly complex, and he's not much of a technical wizard, the dude can flow with the best of them. No question.

But the problem I have with this cat is that he really has absolutely nothing to say. And ultimately, it makes Thank Me Later an uneven listening experience.

Hip hop is about a specific individual struggle. An angle. But Drake doesn't have one. His entire record is devoted solely to his sudden fame, to the point that it's almost too self-aware. And it begs the question: what is this dude going to be rapping about two albums from now?

No matter how many sparse, dark backdrops the dude has on his record, the melancholy derived from his purported struggles with women feels artificial. I understand the concept of the trials and tribulations of fame, but is that really a tangible subject for your debut release? Is that really how you're going to announce yourself to the world?

You intentionally go out of your way to achieve success, and then you spend the entirety of your first record complaining about it. How does that make any sense?

At the end of the day, Drake's gonna have a great career because he can flat out ride a beat. But if he wants to attain the level of respect and status of the legends he believes he can hang with (and subsequently whine about being amongst) the dude needs to find a sense of focus outside of his surface level here and now.

Amen. Although, you give his talent more credit than I do. Glad little homie made his paper when he did, but I'm ready for his 15 mins to be up.

Flocka!

[Aesop Rocks]

So I finally got around to hearing REVOFEV by Cudi.

Yeah, it's amazing.

[Crook]

Is the dude talented? Absolutely. While his wordplay isn't overly complex, and he's not much of a technical wizard, the dude can flow with the best of them. No question.

Well I'm most definitely going to object to this. :o

Dude has gone on a track with some pretty great rappers, but by no means would I ever group him with them based on his flow. Especially now. His fame has gotten to his head so bad that he doesn't even switch it up now. Listen to his freestyles or his songs, it's exactly the same. And it's not even an ill flow either! Rap a few bars, follow it up with another bar that stretches out the last word:

Everybody in my city know I run the town,
b*tches get crazy every time a n***a come arrrrooooooouuuunnddddd

:dry:

His entire scheme is:

Bar 1 rhyme A
Bar 2 rhyme A
Bar 3 rhyme B
Bar 4 rhyme B

C'mon fella, this isn't the late 80s of rap. You've gotta try harder than that. :down

I used to f**k with Drake, but dude has gotten so corny to me now. I would not be surprised at all if he has the 50 syndrome, where he'll be hot s**t now, but simply does not have the talent or unique ability to outlast the burst of popularity.

*goes back to bumpin' Recovery*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Occasions/011.gif

[Cmill216]

Well I'm most definitely going to object to this. :o

Dude has gone on a track with some pretty great rappers, but by no means would I ever group him with them based on his flow. Especially now. His fame has gotten to his head so bad that he doesn't even switch it up now. Listen to his freestyles or his songs, it's exactly the same. And it's not even an ill flow either! Rap a few bars, follow it up with another bar that stretches out the last word

And I'm not gonna disagree with that. I never said the dude had diversity. But I will give him credit that when compared to most of the cats who've come up in the mainstream over the last few years, he can actually ride a beat.


I could relate to kids going straight to the league
When they recognize that you got what it takes to succeed
And that's around the time that your idols become your rivals
You make friends with Mike, but gotta AI him for your survival
Damn, I swear sports and music are so synonymous
'Cause we wanna be them, and they wanna be usBut his flaws as a lyricist are exposed for the world to see on "Light Up". Again, he rides the beat nearly flawlessly, but then you listen to Jay's verse where Jay is KILLING it metaphorically, and it's night and day:


Drake:

Yeah, and I'm just filling up this daily planner
Getting busy 'cause I'm a star, no spangled banner
Jealous dudes get to talking in their music
And I just say I wrote it for your girlfriends
Kelsey Grammar

Jay:
I ain't gotta scar yet,
You f***ing 'round with me and my dogs is far fetched

And to these n***as I'm like Windows 7
You let 'em tell it and they swear that they invented you
I once was, cool as the Fonz was,
But these bright lights turned me into a MunsterDudes can hate on Hova all they want, and rightfully so when he puts out garbage like The Blueprint 3. But every now and then Jay drops a verse that reminds you why he deserves the legend status.

[Crook]

And I'm not gonna disagree with that. I never said the dude had diversity. But I will give him credit that when compared to most of the cats who've come up in the mainstream over the last few years, he can actually ride a beat.
Eh, but mainstream rappers are pretty wack for the most part, so being slightly above average in this respect is no high compliment. He has a very good ear for what makes a song, that is his biggest talent. As far as raps go though, he's exactly what he's trying to be: a poor man's Kanye/Weezy.

But his flaws as a lyricist are exposed for the world to see on "Light Up". Again, he rides the beat nearly flawlessly, but then you listen to Jay's verse where Jay is KILLING it metaphorically, and it's night and day
There's a difference with those 2 on the track. They both take on the "less is more" approach with their bars and slow delivery, but Jay is actually saying something. It confuses me how someone who cites Nas and Jay as huge influences, can be so blatantly weak with the pen.

Dudes can hate on Hova all they want, and rightfully so when he puts out garbage like The Blueprint 3. But every now and then Jay drops a verse that reminds you why he deserves the legend status.
Can you take those dudes seriously though? At this point it's straight-up hater-status to undermine Hov. People were questioning his comeback from retirement and yet he's the most relevant and popular rapper in the game as of now.

[bunk]

Drake is a waste of space. J Cole or Wale deserve that kind of exposure, not him.

[RockSP]

Drake is a waste of space. J Cole or Wale deserve that kind of exposure, not him.

"I'm on another level, I'm on top of nose bleeds"

[Colossal Spoons]

Drake is a waste of space. J Cole or Wale deserve that kind of exposure, not him.

Replace Wale with Jay Electronica and I'm with ya

[bunk]

Replace Wale with Jay Electronica and I'm with ya

I like Jay Electronica too, but I feel like Wale is working harder at it. They're all better than Drake anyway.

[Colossal Spoons]

Wale throws Go-Go beats into a lot of his songs. Awesome if you're a fan of it but went to college near DC and hated every time it was played. I could listen to Baltimore Club all day though. I could listen to "I'm the S**t" by DJ Class all day :awesome:

[ComicChick]

90210 by Wale is pretty decent

its def not the kinda song i was thinking he'd do

[Cmill216]

Can you take those dudes seriously though? At this point it's straight-up hater-status to undermine Hov. People were questioning his comeback from retirement and yet he's the most relevant and popular rapper in the game as of now.

The problem is with consistency. How could someone make a straight up gem like American Gangster, and then turn with some mediocre s*** like The Blueprint 3?

Jay's whole career has been like this. A great record, followed up by mediocrity. It's like the dude takes breaks.

[bunk]

Recovery is the first Em album I can listen to straight through without wanting to skip anything.

[DDRSkata]

Unpopular opinion, but I still think Drake kills it. Thank Me Later as an album was too low-key and aside from a few notable moments of introspection, he mostly just rides the beat. I like the album, and I've listened to it quite a few times since it came out, but he needed some more songs like he was doing before, like Ransom for example, where he just goes hard.

There's a lot of rising talent that we'll probably be seeing a lot more of. Maybe not on a Drake level of exposure, but at least on, say, a Cudi level. J.Cole kills it like nobody's business. Chiddy Bang had one of last year's best mixtapes, hands down. Childish Gambino has not released anything that has been less than awesome. And there are some real small people right now that are starting to get attention from the right people, like Kid Kasanova.

It's a really interesting time for hip-hop, I think.

[CrypticOne]

Yeah, I can't wait for J. Cole's album. His mixtape The Warm Up is dope.

And I can't wait for Cudi's new album. He's probably my favorite new-age artist.

[ComicChick]

i'm seeing a couple of music recommendations i'd like to check out on the last page or so. Cole, Electronica, Chiddy, etc.

i acquired the new Roots album today so I will be checking that out later after work.

oh yeah, i still need to get that last Little Brother too

[DDRSkata]

I gotta get some more Jay Electronica as well. And some Big Sean, because my cousin played his **** for me last weekend and it was money.

Childish Gambino has a new album coming out July 2, so I'm pretty stoked on that.

[RockSP]

Today is the day...HOW I GOT OVER by The Roots finally comes out (was originally supposed to be released in like october of last year) :applaud

[ComicChick]

i picked up the Roots, haven't listened yet though

[DDRSkata]

I haven't gotten the new Roots, but I did listen to Things Fall Apart earlier. I love that album.

[Cmill216]

I don't know how they did it, but How I Got Over is a damn masterpiece.

Maybe having the time to really kick back in the studio and let their music breathe helped them, because it's obvious in listening to this record that they've been re-energized by their new late night gig. While I enjoyed Rising Down, I ultimately felt like it was a little too much of a "more of the same" kind of vibe.

This is not to say that The Roots had gone stale, but the mix-n-match melancholy on that record (which was done better on Game Theory) just wasn't sticking with me the way it should have. Plus, the production was just all over the place. But this record is a completely different story.

The production is immaculate. Piano, strings, choirs. It runs the gamut. And ?uest's work here is some of his best to date.

All of the guest spots work. Phonte drops two sick verses, and all of the indie acts help create a tangible sense of mood and help keep the sound completely unpredictable.

But more importantly, Black Thought absolutely tears it up. Tears. It. Up.


"Uh huh, they said he's busy hold the line please
Call me crazy, I thought maybe he could mind read
Who does the blind lead? Show me a sign please
If everything is made in China are we Chinese?
And why do haters separate us like we siamese?
Technology turning the planet into zombies
Everybody all in everybody's dirty laundry
Acid rain, earthquakes, hurricane, tsunamis
Terrorists, crime sprees, assaults and robberies
Cops yelling 'stop freeze', shoot him 'fore he try to leave
Air quality so foul, I gotta try to breathe
Endangered species, and we running out of trees
If I could hold the world in the palm of these
hands, I would probably do away with these anomalies
Everybody checking for the new award nominees
Wars and atrocities, look at all the poverty
Ignoring the prophecies, more beef than broccoli
Corporate monopoly, weak world economy
Stock markets toppling, mad marijuana
OxyContin and Klonopin, everybody out of it"Why is this dude never brought up in the conversation of G.O.A.T.?

Flow? Check. Wordplay? Check. Consistency? Check. Substance? Check.

The Roots, to me, will always represent what hip hop is really all about. This is their best record since Things Fall Apart, and maybe their most complete record to date. There isn't a weak song on here. Hell, there isn't an average song on here. It really doesn't get more pure than this.

Best of album of the year so far. No contest. Moving right along.

[ComicChick]

im gonna have to listen to this soon, i'm dying to find the time

[Crook]

So the self-proclaimed singer FINALLY actually sings live, one of his songs:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdstce_216243341_webcam/

..and f**ks it up badly. :funny:

[Aesop Rocks]

Hahaha! :awesome:

Wait, is he lip-singing?

[Crook]

The hook is being played back, but everything else is all him. Now I know why he refused to sing in any of his live shows. Dude straight up sucks without post-production help.

He has a good ear for melody though. If only someone sung for him. :o

[bunk]

Holy crap is that bad. It's not even a difficult song.

[DDRSkata]

http://vimeo.com/12449882

Now this is fire.

[bunk]

Oh yeah, great song. There's a version with Joell Ortiz which is also good.

[RockSP]

IBut more importantly, Black Thought absolutely tears it up. Tears. It. Up.

Why is this dude never brought up in the conversation of G.O.A.T.?

Flow? Check. Wordplay? Check. Consistency? Check. Substance? Check.


I personally don't believe in a single GOAT but Thought is definitely one of the all time greats. And nobody touches him in a live setting...he should add Captain Breath Control to his list of monickers :hehe:

I find it interesting that for the last couple of albums the guest spots in terms of emcees have played such a huge role. There are several songs with just one verse from BT. Guess after being slept on for so long and so many albums he's like "@#$% all that writing".

[ComicChick]

The hook is being played back, but everything else is all him. Now I know why he refused to sing in any of his live shows. Dude straight up sucks without post-production help.

He has a good ear for melody though. If only someone sung for him. :o

yeah that's pretty terrible

its like kanye's 808 album, i love when others sing his songs, i just dont think he sings that well

[ComicChick]

so i've only gotten to listen to the first half of the Roots album so far and I'm digging it. i really need to go back and get their older stuff cuz other than a few singles (don't say nuthin, you got me, the seed) i dont think i have anything else by them

[Cmill216]

so i've only gotten to listen to the first half of the Roots album so far and I'm digging it. i really need to go back and get their older stuff cuz other than a few singles (don't say nuthin, you got me, the seed) i dont think i have anything else by them

:eek:

Do it. Do it now.

Things Fall Apart, Illadelph Halflife, Game Theory, Phrenology.

So much win.

[Cmill216]

The song that instigated the greatest diss of all-time:

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/videos/id.5796/title.jay-z-eminem-renegade-david-letterman-performance

It's still amazing to see how badly Em kills Jay on this track. I mean, Jesus. It's not even close.

[Colossal Spoons]

I never get why people are always saying Em slaughtered Jay on that track. Em made the beat. Em's verses were stronger no doubt, but Renegade didn't feel like a Jay-Z type song from the second it starts.

In other news, lovin this Roots CD :up:

[RockSP]

so i've only gotten to listen to the first half of the Roots album so far and I'm digging it. i really need to go back and get their older stuff cuz other than a few singles (don't say nuthin, you got me, the seed) i dont think i have anything else by them

Wow. You might as well start from the beginning.

Do You Want More?!!!???? is their major label debut, though they had an independent release before that called Organix (which didn't widely released until years later).

DYWM is what made me a Roots fan :up::up::up::up::up:

[Cmill216]

I never get why people are always saying Em slaughtered Jay on that track. Em made the beat. Em's verses were stronger no doubt, but Renegade didn't feel like a Jay-Z type song from the second it starts.

'Cause Jay goes out of his way to pump himself up as the GOAT, but then puts a track on his album where the guest verse absolutely eats his alive.

It's one thing for a guest verse to outshine the main attraction. It happens. But that first Em verse is seriously one of the sickest ever spit, and it makes Jay look inept.

[bunk]

I never get why people are always saying Em slaughtered Jay on that track. Em made the beat. Em's verses were stronger no doubt, but Renegade didn't feel like a Jay-Z type song from the second it starts.

In other news, lovin this Roots CD :up:

It actually was an Eminem song, that's why it seems so out of place. Jay's verses are actually really good, but it's almost like he was an after thought.

[Colossal Spoons]

'Cause Jay goes out of his way to pump himself up as the GOAT, but then puts a track on his album where the guest verse absolutely eats his alive.

It's one thing for a guest verse to outshine the main attraction. It happens. But that first Em verse is seriously one of the sickest ever spit, and it makes Jay look inept.

Ah, so this was some sort of "Jay getting put in his place" thing for you. I doubt Jay(or any of his fans) lost any sleep over it. Any self-proclaimed GOAT is gonna give a B or C-level performance; just so happens Em brought A+ lyrics to that song.

Cats act like Jay's supposed to high-five Eminem for Renegade or something

It actually was an Eminem song, that's why it seems so out of place. Jay's verses are actually really good, but it's almost like he was an after thought.

I'd love to hear what the original with Royce would have sounded like. After completing the song, Idk why Jay/Em didn't just put it on Em's next CD.

[Cmill216]

Ah, so this was some sort of "Jay getting put in his place" thing for you.

I mean, yeah. Sort of. But I'm a huge Jay fan, so it doesn't really matter either way.

Jay's best moments are at the height of the genre, but my biggest beef with him will always be his inconsistency. Em, too, has fallen on his fair share of hard times.

[CrypticOne]

I always thought Renegade was supposed to go on Royce da 5'9"'s album.

Dope song none the less.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, it was.

Recovery is F'n sick :up:

[Aesop Rocks]

Y'all need to check out reggie watts.

On da real.

[Firm18]

Em sold 750k, awesome.

[CrypticOne]

Em sold 750k, awesome.

Hell yeah. Congrats to Em. I've been listening Recovery all week. 25 To Life has to be my favorite track, now that I've listened to it like 50 times.

[Aesop Rocks]

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[Aesop Rocks]

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[Aesop Rocks]

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*cough*

Oh DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!! :wow:

[Dvhyzs]

New song from Cudi's new album leaked on a Cleveland radio station:

YVBfXjI1Fkg

Also, has anyone listened to Big Boi's new album? It's leaked already. It sound really ****ing good.

[DDRSkata]

The new Childish Gambino is out. It's like Drake's Thank Me Later in the sense that it's more personal lyrically, there are more slow songs with singing on them than expected, and he doesn't go as hard, on average, as he did on previous work, but it's really good.

[Dvhyzs]

Yeah I'm really loving the Childish Gambino album. Not as much as the new Big Boi album, but come on, that's like comparing Donald Glover to Big Boi.

[KBX]

I'd love to hear what the original with Royce would have sounded like. After completing the song, Idk why Jay/Em didn't just put it on Em's next CD.

K_O_-URLgIM

I thought it was dumb for any fan, let alone Ems to use Renegade as a way to say Em is better than Jay. Renegade is a legendary song where you have two of the best on one track for the first and only time together. That is a reason why I don't think these two will ever do another song together, which I clearly understand. To put in perspective Drake has done 2 songs with Jay, while Wayne has done 2 with Em.

[Tissues]

I'm listening to the Childish Gambino album too and I really like it. Like it more than his previous stuff.

[DDRSkata]

I might be behind on this, but the new Big Sean/Drake collab, Made, is sick. It's not Drake's best verse, but Big Sean brings it.

[RockSP]

Got Big Boi's solo joint yesterday. Only had a chance to listen like maybe 1 and a half times to it...but I like it for the most part. It's silly how the label wouldn't let Andre be on it, but hey those tracks can easily be found and downloaded.

[Firm18]

Gucci Mane has a song with Talib Kweli....

Btw, Recovery sold over 1 milli in US in 2 weeks, plus 1.5 around the world.
Listing to it every day.

[Colossal Spoons]

K_O_-URLgIM...To put in perspective Drake has done 2 songs with Jay, while Wayne has done 2 with Em.

Drake's song with Jay is one of the 2 Drake songs I don't hate. Can't wait for that bum's 15 mins to be up. He can take Minaj with him too, after her n00dz come out of course :o

Got Big Boi's solo joint yesterday. Only had a chance to listen like maybe 1 and a half times to it...but I like it for the most part. It's silly how the label wouldn't let Andre be on it, but hey those tracks can easily be found and downloaded.

Haha. The internet, gotta love it.

Gucci Mane has a song with Talib Kweli....

Talib probably lost a bet. Lemon!

[Cmill216]

How has no one ever jumped all over this beat? Hot damn, Rich Harrison:

QEmidjJDMPs

[Crook]

Anyone else guilty of bumping a lot of Ross' features? I mean damn I really don't like the guy, but I can't lie he's making a lot of hits. That BMF joint he has bumps hard. And he probably gave one of his best verses on his new track with Jay:

http://limelinx.com/files/0cbd7f90799ff1f3385ebf0a3bc62107

Which btw, Jay stays coming back with that heat every time people doubt him. Easily one of the hottest bars he's spit in a long while.

[Aesop Rocks]

Love that Cudi track.

Didn't Glover release Gambino a while ago? I remember downloading it legally a while back.

[knowsbleed]

The Roots... greatest hip hop group of all time... it's official.



J Cole > Drake... any damn day of the week.

[knowsbleed]

BTW... Kanye's song, Power, has one of the gayest lyrics I've ever heard in my life:

"I don’t need yo p***y, b**** I’m on my own d***”

[knowsbleed]

btw pt II...


Janelle Monae is foine:

_GlpeFqMLZI

[Aesop Rocks]

BTW... Kanye's song, Power, has one of the gayest lyrics I've ever heard in my life:

Oh God, is that what he says?!

*deletes from iTunes*

[RockSP]

btw pt II...


Janelle Monae is foine:

_GlpeFqMLZI

Indeed. She needs to stick to singing, though. Rapping is definitely not her thing :hehe:

[Colossal Spoons]

Anyone else guilty of bumping a lot of Ross' features? I mean damn I really don't like the guy, but I can't lie he's making a lot of hits. That BMF joint he has bumps hard. And he probably gave one of his best verses on his new track with Jay:

http://limelinx.com/files/0cbd7f90799ff1f3385ebf0a3bc62107

Which btw, Jay stays coming back with that heat every time people doubt him. Easily one of the hottest bars he's spit in a long while.

I was sayin' the same thing about Ross yesterday. I listen to Hello Goodmorning like everyday

BTW... Kanye's song, Power, has one of the gayest lyrics I've ever heard in my life:

I thought that line was kinda cool haha

[ComicChick]

Tightrope :up:

[AndThePickles]

BTW... Kanye's song, Power, has one of the gayest lyrics I've ever heard in my life:

Isn't that supposed to empower you men or some ****?

[DDRSkata]

Love that Cudi track.

Didn't Glover release Gambino a while ago? I remember downloading it legally a while back.

He's had several releases under Childish Gambino. He put out Sick Boi in 2008, Poindexter in 2009, two mixtapes (I Am Just A Rapper and I Am Just A Rapper 2) earlier this year, and Culdesac on July 3. All of it has been released as free downloads.

Has anyone seen the new Big Sean video? It's not as cool as the J.Cole video, but it's a dope song.

[knowsbleed]

Isn't that supposed to empower you men or some ****?

Men don't really need empowerment, we're kind of over-empowered as it is. I think that is a rapist's mentality. Maybe 'Ye wants to force himself upon... himself.

:csad:

[ComicChick]

i could believe it

[AndThePickles]

we're kind of over-empowered as it is


Yes, but Kanye is the epitome of over-empowered, hence why he wrote that lyric.

[Colossal Spoons]

u mad?

[AndThePickles]

Not unless he comes at me. He does make me :whatever: though :o

[Aesop Rocks]

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/5903/36778443537290451504060.jpg

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh noes

[Ipodman]

BTW... Kanye's song, Power, has one of the gayest lyrics I've ever heard in my life:


F-ck SNL and the whole cast
Tell ‘em Yeezy said they can kiss my whole ass
More specifically, they can kiss my *******
I’m an *******? You n-ggas got jokes


I don’t need yo’ p-ssy, *****, I’m on my own d-ck
I ain’t gotta power trip, who you goin’ home with?
How ‘Ye doin’? I’m survivin’
I was drinkin’ earlier, now I’m drivin’
Where the bad *****es, huh? Where ya hidin’?
I got the power, make yo’ life so excitin’ (So excitin’)


I have lost all respect for him lol.

[Lpilgrim]

anybody here fans of the emcees that came out of the good life cafe and project blowed in LA?

[RockSP]

^^Yes, though I don't have much of their stuff besides Freestyle Fellowship's Inner City Griots album. I remember Aceyalone had another group called Haiku Detat...

[knowsbleed]

Mike, Aaron and Eddie = :up:

Nyo4DgrE9AY

[Dvhyzs]

Anyone else guilty of bumping a lot of Ross' features? I mean damn I really don't like the guy, but I can't lie he's making a lot of hits. That BMF joint he has bumps hard. And he probably gave one of his best verses on his new track with Jay:

http://limelinx.com/files/0cbd7f90799ff1f3385ebf0a3bc62107

Which btw, Jay stays coming back with that heat every time people doubt him. Easily one of the hottest bars he's spit in a long while.

I love his new song "Live Fast, Die Young", but mainly because I love Kanye and his verse on this is great. Plus Kanye produced the track and it sounds gooooooooooooooood.

http://metallungies.com/2010/07/rick-ross-live-fast-die-young-ft-kanye-west/

My outfit is so disrespectful, you can go ahead and sneez because my presence blessed you...

[chamber-music]

Kanye never graduated award show etiquette.

Anyone heard rapper Ty album Special Kind Of Fool. Its my rap album of the year so far followed closely by Big Boi's new one.

[ComicChick]

anybody here fans of the emcees that came out of the good life cafe and project blowed in LA?

ive only heard of aceyalone and only one song

[The Batman]

No offense, but if people werent so obsessed with the **** he did and apologized for months ago, he wouldnt need to make a song like "Power" in the first place. Hell, maybe we could've gotten a song with "College Dropout" type social commentary instead.

[Aesop Rocks]

So far I'm loving J. Cole and Wale a lot. :up:

[RockSP]

No offense, but if people werent so obsessed with the **** he did and apologized for months ago, he wouldnt need to make a song like "Power" in the first place. Hell, maybe we could've gotten a song with "College Dropout" type social commentary instead.

First off, I'm wondering who would be offended by what you wrote...?:huh:

Power is cool to me...just be glad he's not trying (and failing) to sing anymore.

BTW... Kanye's song, Power, has one of the gayest lyrics I've ever heard in my life:

I'm gonna assume you know what he was really saying, heh heh. But just in case, check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBkYdUgl3-M I'd say Cam, Biggie and DJ Quik have Kanye beat easily in the gay lyric department.

[The Batman]

First off, I'm wondering who would be offended by what you wrote...?:huh:

Power is cool to me...just be glad he's not trying (and failing) to sing anymore.





Its the hype...people get offended over the silliest things. Just covering my bases, really.

Honestly, "Power" is the type of song he needed to make. Frankly, the response to the Taylor Swift incident was overblown, and I'm glad he went at SNL for their crappy jokes on the situation (especially with taylor lautner kicking the kanye-dummies head off...which is funny, cause he was on stage when it happened and didnt do a damn thing). Really, Kanye is one of the better mainstream acts going, and its a shame he needs to remind people of that.

[William_C]

This is off topic from Kanye - but I just read this article that posted two days ago on HipHopDx.com about artist retiring from rap - from older artist who do it for attention/sales to today's younger artist who do it with only one album out. It's a lengthy read, but it is a very solid article.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/editorials/id.1571/title.rap-retirement-plans

[terry78]

This is off topic from Kanye - but I just read this article that posted two days ago on HipHopDx.com about artist retiring from rap - from older artist who do it for attention/sales to today's younger artist who do it with only one album out. It's a lengthy read, but it is a very solid article.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/editorials/id.1571/title.rap-retirement-plans

I agree wholeheartedly. How do you retire at age 22 or some ****? If it was just about the money, then I suppose so. But if you didn't get into it for the music and an outlet for what you had to say, I don't know what to tell you.

[Firm18]

Dominic Monagan (Charlie from Lost)
and
Megan Fox

in the new Eminem video:

http://api.ning.com/files/lEkJqlxtAK0VQuKZDxooNd2slyHGybOHIRhqxXavPYT6wwvcVq yWUGvDk5gavuvtuAVDrgysR7e9tJQ5Q-QFpaxmEC9otQua/00megan1.PNG

[Aesop Rocks]

That looks ****ing terrible. :funny:

[Cmill216]

Anybody in here MC? I've been looking to collaborate with someone for a while now, and I've got a truckload of beats waiting.

[MessiahDecoy123]

I'm going to start listening to christain rap because I'm sick and tired of rappers rapping about nothing.

I previewed some christian rap and it reminded me a Tupac, true renegade rap with a purpose.

I'm not overtly religious either, it's just that I'm hungry for hip hop that is fighting for something important. Underground hip hop used to fill that space but now it's just repetitive and directionless. The chistain rappers rap like their souls are depending on it. It's refreshing and it's not corny like christain rock music. I was surprised how good it is.

[Firm18]

I'm an mc.

[Aesop Rocks]

I've always wanted to be freestyler. When I was blasting the Marshall Mathers LP daily and religiously, I used to freestyle somewhat back then.

[Cmill216]

I'm an mc.

PM me if you have any demos.

[DDRSkata]

Anybody in here MC? I've been looking to collaborate with someone for a while now, and I've got a truckload of beats waiting.

I've been writing verses for a while, but I don't have beats or any way to record anything (some people I know do great **** with just their laptop mics, but I can't get it to sound even remotely okay; I don't know a thing about recording). When I move up to New York next week, I should be hitting the studio, if not immediately then within a month. Definitely trying to get some **** rolling.

I'll probably be working a lot with my cousin and his boys. This is a demo one of his boys just put out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py4sg2-DG9c

EDIT: The video doesn't appear to be working. I don't know if it's me misusing the tags or what, but here's the link just in case: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py4sg2-DG9c

[chamber-music]

I'm going to start listening to christain rap because I'm sick and tired of rappers rapping about nothing.

I previewed some christian rap and it reminded me a Tupac, true renegade rap with a purpose.

I'm not overtly religious either, it's just that I'm hungry for hip hop that is fighting for something important. Underground hip hop used to fill that space but now it's just repetitive and directionless. The chistain rappers rap like their souls are depending on it. It's refreshing and it's not corny like christain rock music. I was surprised how good it is.

You should check out Ty - special kind of fool. Some good conscious rap.

[Dark Sentinel]

I'm going to start listening to christain rap because I'm sick and tired of rappers rapping about nothing.

I previewed some christian rap and it reminded me a Tupac, true renegade rap with a purpose.

I'm not overtly religious either, it's just that I'm hungry for hip hop that is fighting for something important. Underground hip hop used to fill that space but now it's just repetitive and directionless. The chistain rappers rap like their souls are depending on it. It's refreshing and it's not corny like christain rock music. I was surprised how good it is.


Check out Lecrae..his stuff is raw

[terry78]

I confess I need a bit of cussing in my rap. Not constant, but something to just make you take notice that they're pissed about something.

[Aesop Rocks]

I'm am SO excited to get Wale's new EP!!!!

[ComicChick]

I'm am SO excited to get Wale's new EP!!!!

when's it coming out?

[Aesop Rocks]

Today

[ComicChick]

for serious?

[Aesop Rocks]

for seriously. The Break Up Song is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good!

[CrypticOne]

Anyone listen to Vado? Dope.

[Colossal Spoons]

I've been diggin everything I've heard from Vado

[ComicChick]

i've never heard of Vado

[Aesop Rocks]

Oh my God, Large on the Streets just changed my life!

[Dvhyzs]

Kanye's video for Power debuts on MTV tomorrow night. I'm excited, even though it's only supposed to be a little over 1 minute long. Supposedly it might have a "trailer" attached to the end of it, previewing the new album.

[bunk]

This Wale is worth the wait.

[Aesop Rocks]

I love Wale's new EP soooooooooo much!

[Dr. Evil]

The next President of Haiti: Wyclef Jean?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100804/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_haiti_elections_wyclef

[Aesop Rocks]

I find it funny because that song he has called If I Was President.

[CrypticOne]

What's the new Wale EP called?

[Aesop Rocks]

More About Nothing

[CrypticOne]

More About Nothing

Oh, downloaded earlier. Thought it was a mixtape. Pretty dope so far.

[Aesop Rocks]

I thought it was an EP. lol my bad.

[Crook]

Anyone see the making-of teaser for Kanye's new vid? It's NSFW but you can easily find it on YouTube. Pretty amazing stuff that 'Ye has commissioned. He went all artsy on it it. Looks like a really trippy video that once again separates him from the rest of the pack.

Gotta give it to him, you can tell the guy takes his craft seriously. :up:

[The Batman]

I love how Kanye has become an instant classic on twitter, lmao. Cant wait to see his "power" video.

In addition to the power vid, theres footage of kanye performing some of his new stuff at the facebook offices:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Umjy314sQQ&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exNOyZ220jg&feature=related

[Dvhyzs]

Anyone see the making-of teaser for Kanye's new vid? It's NSFW but you can easily find it on YouTube. Pretty amazing stuff that 'Ye has commissioned. He went all artsy on it it. Looks like a really trippy video that once again separates him from the rest of the pack.

Gotta give it to him, you can tell the guy takes his craft seriously. :up:

Yep, I respect the hell out of him. He does nothing but come out with good **** again and again and again and again. Have y'all seen the video of his live performance of Power in Singapore the other night? He freestyled in the middle of it and it basically ended up being a public apology for the Taylor Swift incident. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link it because it has some language in it... just search "Kanye West Singapore" and it's the one with him in the pink suit.

Hopefully it ends up on the album like Pinocchio's Story was on 808s.

[Crook]

Kanye West "Power" official video:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=106119087

ILL concept, but way too damn short. WTF. Such a grand concept for a catchy anthem and you give us 90 seconds? C'mon...

Eminem ft. Rihanna "Love The Way You Lie" Official Video:


Pretty much as I expected, but well done video nonetheless. I know Dominic must have been thanking his lucky stars to be married to a hottie and still get to tongue-lock Fox on the side. Rihanna looks fine as hell, wish she and Em played the parts but oh well. This'll probably be the biggest mainstream single off of Recovery, so I wonder where Em will go for follow-ups.

[Bunker]

On Twitter Kanye said it was a painting, not a video. Whatever the **** that means. Hopefully we see a legit video soon.

[Blackman]

yeah that was pretty stupid. Great song, interesting concept, but it just came out lame

[Devan]

On Twitter Kanye said it was a painting, not a video. Whatever the **** that means. Hopefully we see a legit video soon.

Nah, that's all they filmed. Basically it was meant to be a trailer for the new album. Now we just have to wait for the second single...

[Anti-Moderator]

I thought the length of the video/portrait or whatever was perfect for this day and age. Most countdown shows on these "music networks" rarely even show a video in its entirety anyways and its perfect for views on YouTube. This man knows what he's doing.

[Bunker]

Nah, that's all they filmed. Basically it was meant to be a trailer for the new album. Now we just have to wait for the second single...

Power should have been THE single, though. ****ing waste of a great song.

[Dark Sentinel]

Anyone know when the Rihanna/Eminem video is premiering? I heard it's supposed to be tonight at 9 or something

[Crook]

Look above for the vid, it premiered hours ago.

[Firm18]

I love the new Eminem video.

[Prison Mike]

Same here. Like the video.

[Dark Sentinel]

Link doesn't work!!!

[Dark Sentinel]

Nevermind, downloaded it. Killer video, not as good as Not Afraid (can't beat that Supershady!!) but good nonetheless..he definity could follow it up with a "Space Bound" video next.

But that's probably wishful thinking

[Crook]

It's most likely "No Love". Em said that Wayne taped his part before he went to jail.

[Dark Sentinel]

That song is amazing..Em just keeps spitting on it and you think his bit is never gonna end

But I think "Space Bound" and "You're Never Over" are my favorite tracks. SB because he basically goes through every emotion immediately following a breakup, YNO because it's just the best song off the album

[CrypticOne]

Agreed.

My two favorite songs off Recovery are Cold Wind Blows and Space Bound.

[Devan]

Power should have been THE single, though. ****ing waste of a great song.
I history repeats itself, Kanye's second single always rapes the first.

[Dark Sentinel]

Agreed.

My two favorite songs off Recovery are Cold Wind Blows and Space Bound.

I like Cold Wind Blows because it's (along with So Bad) reminiscent of the Slim Shady side of Em's personality. The quirky beats and sarcastic humor are great and fits him very well. But I hapen to prefer the Marshall Mathers side, because his lyrics ring truer and hit harder. I think for the most part that we've seen the last of Slim Shady, and Em is gonna tackle more serious themes in his songs from here on out

[CrypticOne]

I like Cold Wind Blows because it's (along with So Bad) reminiscent of the Slim Shady side of Em's personality. The quirky beats and sarcastic humor are great and fits him very well. But I hapen to prefer the Marshall Mathers side, because his lyrics ring truer and hit harder. I think for the most part that we've seen the last of Slim Shady, and Em is gonna tackle more serious themes in his songs from here on out

Yeah, I think you're right.

I do not know why he is putting Relapse down though. That is probably my third favorite Eminem album.

[Dark Sentinel]

There's an interview he did where Em said that he was initially satisfied with Relapse, but that as he sobered up more he realized that he wasn't as on top of his game as he wanted to be. That's why Relapse 2 was scratched in favor of Recovery. If I can find the interview on YouTube I'll post it

[Nightmare]

Nice. I love Recovery a lot more over relapse.

[Dark Sentinel]

I'm not saying that Relapse was a bad album, but the only song I REALLY liked was "Beautiful"

[BigSams50]

I didn't really care for Relapse at all. I'm loving Recovery though.

[Dark Sentinel]

What makes Recovery such a great album is the subject matter.

[Crook]

Kanye premiered his new track with Beyonce & Charlie Wilson:

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I LOVE this track, it's just the right tone Kanye needs for his new album. That feel-good, soulful, positive hip-hop. Not like that's not what he's been doing, but this almost is an ode to the College Dropout days...which I've been dying to hear again for ages.

This is my morning wake-up theme for a good while. :cool:







Oh, and "I'mma let you finish, but I got Beyonce on the track!". Kanye's a fool. :funny:

[Aesop Rocks]

Really not digging Kanye's new song See Me Now.

[Blackman]

Its alright kind of feels...generic. Did Kanye produce it his beats always sound better. The hook wasnt that good, lyrics were pretty clever as always
Its not bad, just not that good. But with Beyonce and Kanye this will definitely hop to the top 10

[ComicChick]

i actually kinda like it. like Crook said, reminiscent of College Dropout and I love that album

[LegendaryCaleb]

I dont like that track :(

[theShape]

As far as the rap game is concerned right now, Eminem is back at the top where he belongs, Drake is killing it, Weezy is poised to make a huge comeback (his new song with Drake called "Right Above It" is pretty hot), and I'm hearing way too much Rick Ross on the radio for my own good.

[RockSP]

Boy, Kanye is just trying too hard with the nonsensical statements lately.

First he says Nicki Minaj could end up being #2 rapper of all time behind Eminem (:whatever:), and now Swizz beats is the best rap producer of all time...:dry:

:lmao:

[DDRSkata]

As far as the rap game is concerned right now, Eminem is back at the top where he belongs, Drake is killing it, Weezy is poised to make a huge comeback (his new song with Drake called "Right Above It" is pretty hot), and I'm hearing way too much Rick Ross on the radio for my own good.

Right Above It is okay, but Drake's verse is just the verse he did on Tim Westwood a few weeks ago but not as good. It just doesn't flow right.

[theShape]

Right Above It is okay, but Drake's verse is just the verse he did on Tim Westwood a few weeks ago but not as good. It just doesn't flow right.

You're right, it is part of his Westwood "freestyle", but it sounds better in Right Above it. Flow seemed on point to me.

[Colossal Spoons]

As far as the rap game is concerned right now, Eminem is back at the top where he belongs, Drake is killing it, Weezy is poised to make a huge comeback (his new song with Drake called "Right Above It" is pretty hot), and I'm hearing way too much Rick Ross on the radio for my own good.

Ross is destroying this summer :up:. I'd rather hear him than Drake and Lil Wayne for sure

[Dezzy West, Jr.]

I haven't been feeling Cudi's leaked tracks from his new album, but "Mr. Rager" is dooope.

[theShape]

Ross is destroying this summer :up:. I'd rather hear him than Drake and Lil Wayne for sure

Sorry but I can't take him seriously. He's by far the fakest rapper that exists in mainstream rap today and I don't think I need to explain why. He tried to start beef with 50 and just got himself embarrassed, and now Jeezy's taking shots at him for being so fake. I'll admit he's got nice flow on some tracks as well as some super hot beats recently (love the Aston Martin Music instrumental), but his voice and "trademarks" ("HUHHH"..."ROSAY") are annoying and he relies too heavily on features from other artists (like 95% of Teflon Don).

[DDRSkata]

Ross is destroying this summer :up:. I'd rather hear him than Drake and Lil Wayne for sure

"I’ve grown tired of these ****in’ grown man liars
Storytellers, they ain’t even need a campfire"
--Drake, "Light Up"

[Blackman]

Rick Ross is beyond wack. That song B.M.F. is terrible

[Colossal Spoons]

Sorry but I can't take him seriously. He's by far the fakest rapper that exists in mainstream rap today and I don't think I need to explain why. He tried to start beef with 50 and just got himself embarrassed, and now Jeezy's taking shots at him for being so fake. I'll admit he's got nice flow on some tracks as well as some super hot beats recently (love the Aston Martin Music instrumental), but his voice and "trademarks" ("HUHHH"..."ROSAY") are annoying and he relies too heavily on features from other artists (like 95% of Teflon Don).

I've stopped caring about how "real" rappers are after the Jay/Nas "feud". They're mostly a bunch of ex drug dealers and gangbanger homies who say some words over a hopefully sick beat. Ross could work at Chuck E. Cheese's in his spare time but when his verse in "Hello Good Morning" starts, the bass in my car goes up......and it stays there.

"I’ve grown tired of these ****in’ grown man liars
Storytellers, they ain’t even need a campfire"
--Drake, "Light Up"

I wish he'd respond to Beanie Sigel callin him out so he can get destroyed. But he'd most likely just have Weezy swoop in and battle for him. Yeah yeah, I'm sure this is Beanie's last ditch effort to return to relevance but the dude is disgusting on the mic. Too bad he can't stay out of jail :(

Rick Ross is beyond wack. That song B.M.F. is terrible

Damn, never met anybody who didn't like that song. Nice to meet ya lol

[knowsbleed]

I quit hip hop. I'm taking up smoking again... it's healthier.

[Colossal Spoons]

I was bored with it too, until Flocka came on the scene :D

[AndThePickles]

Oh lord

[Colossal Spoons]

u mad?

[Blackman]

Flocka is wack too

[AndThePickles]

I'm not sayin his music isn't catchy. What I am sayin is it's some of the least intelligent music I've ever heard :csad: Like, I think that he may be mentally challenged.

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh, he's def a little retarded. Same with his former mentor Gucci Mane

[knowsbleed]

Plies is smart though. I've read his thesis on how rhyming "me" with "me" is actually reducing global warming. It's a lifechanger.

[bunk]

Gucci Mane has one of the most punchable faces ever. Him and Cam'ron.

[AndThePickles]

Plies can kiss my ass, he thinks that all white girls are ****s.

[knowsbleed]

O_o

[terry78]

Plies can kiss my ass, he thinks that all white girls are ****s.

Well.....that is kinda the consensus among some of us more..less enlightened black dudes.

<_<


Spoons, man...just hook up some alterna-**** like Lupe, Doom, and the like. EVer since I heard the Ricky Bobby dance, I just had to stop with the radio.

[knowsbleed]

terry is so old... quit acting so old!

[AndThePickles]

O_o

He mentions white people in his music a lot, I've noticed. It'd be more humorous if I wasn't an individual fighting that stereotype. White girls get a bad enough rep from other women in terms of "black men only date them because they're hoes," so I don't need Plies broadcasting that viewpoint across the radio. :csad:

[knowsbleed]

Same thing can be said about Black guys dating Asian women... people who perpetuate the stereotypes deserve to be resurrected as men's bicycle seats IMO.

[Blackman]

Plies exhaggerates his "Southern" accent in his raps so much. And says "cracka" way too many times.

Plus he took a great beat a hook with that song Hypnotize and almost made in un-listenable

[AndThePickles]

Same thing can be said about Black guys dating Asian women... people who perpetuate the stereotypes deserve to be resurrected as men's bicycle seats IMO.

:up:

[terry78]

Same thing can be said about Black guys dating Asian women... people who perpetuate the stereotypes deserve to be resurrected as men's bicycle seats IMO.

Hey, it's not my fault if they know how to do...certain things. :cmad:

[Aesop Rocks]

Wait, rappers still call girls "hoes"?

People still listen to all that "fancy life, hoes everywhere, from da hood listen to me me me" ****????

[AndThePickles]

terry, prepare to be a bicycle seat :o

[terry78]

I willingly take that punishment.

[RockSP]

Wait, rappers still call girls "hoes"?

People still listen to all that "fancy life, hoes everywhere, from da hood listen to me me me" ****????

Even before the "fancy life, etc" stuff rappers were calling girls hoes. Hip-hop and PC don't really belong in the same sentence.

[AndThePickles]

I willingly take that punishment.

That means that you will become an obese sweaty man's bicycle seat :csad:

[Aesop Rocks]

Even before the "fancy life, etc" stuff rappers were calling girls hoes. Hip-hop and PC don't really belong in the same sentence.

lulz

That means that you will become an obese sweaty man's bicycle seat :csad:

But that's implying all male bicyclist's are obese! :csad:

[knowsbleed]

"I never call you my b**** or even my boo
There's so much in a name and so much more in you"

Common

[Aesop Rocks]

:up:

[RockSP]

"Theres a party in your mouth, b****, and everybody's (censored)"

Common Sense

[terry78]

Ironically, that won't sell albums. Or in today's market, downloads. Common is popular, but the crowd that the rap game is trying to appeal to today, i.e; young girls, he's boring.

[knowsbleed]

Wasn't he talking about Ice Cube though? I don't think that counts.

[RockSP]

Wasn't he talking about Ice Cube though?

Nope. That beef hadn't happened yet.

[knowsbleed]

People evolve... Common started making sense.

[Aesop Rocks]

I get it.

[RockSP]

People evolve... Common started making sense.

My point was that calling (some) women hoes isn't just a "fake thug rapper" thing. It's been going on forever.

[knowsbleed]

Mary Magdalene... what a ho.

[Aesop Rocks]

**** It All by Don Glover literally just changed my life.

[Aesop Rocks]

What is this (500) Days of Weezy Mixtape?! :huh:

[Colossal Spoons]

Gucci Mane has one of the most punchable faces ever. Him and Cam'ron.

But...but...it's Gucci time :(

Spoons, man...just hook up some alterna-**** like Lupe, Doom, and the like. EVer since I heard the Ricky Bobby dance, I just had to stop with the radio.

Oh I def ****s with the more intelligent hip-hop; was mainly talking about the radio pop/club music

[Colossal Spoons]

Plies can kiss my ass, he thinks that all white girls are ****s.

"got a white girl that be boofing
gotta watch her cause she use it
but she **** me like she stupid
and she always ready to give me that becky
last time it was so good I almost crashed my Bentley"

-Juelz Santana

P.S. I had to look up "boofing" on urban dictionary, L.O.L.

[Aesop Rocks]

brb, boofing.

[terry78]

I MUST be old, because I was unaware you could get ****ed up doing it that way. Yeesh.

[Colossal Spoons]

There're blood vessels in there :o


:dry:

[KenK]

Just looked up boofing. . . . now I'll never be able to watch Teen Wolf again without thinking about that. Jesus.

[AndThePickles]

"got a white girl that be boofing
gotta watch her cause she use it
but she **** me like she stupid
and she always ready to give me that becky
last time it was so good I almost crashed my Bentley"

-Juelz Santana

P.S. I had to look up "boofing" on urban dictionary, L.O.L.

Text me what "boofing" is, can't look it up at work :o But yeah, boo to him too.

[AndThePickles]

"I never call you my b**** or even my boo
There's so much in a name and so much more in you"

Common

:up:

[The Batman]

Ironically, that won't sell albums. Or in today's market, downloads. Common is popular, but the crowd that the rap game is trying to appeal to today, i.e; young girls, he's boring.

Lol, isnt there an Eminem song where he comments on the fact that girls constantly dance to songs where they're referred to as "****s"?

[ComicChick]

now i have to look up boofing cuz i have never heard of it before

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, I've found a few definitions but they all revolve around the same body part

[terry78]

Lol, isnt there an Eminem song where he comments on the fact that girls constantly dance to songs where they're referred to as "****s"?

So did Chris Rock, who said they all say the same thing. "He ain't talkin' about me." :doh:

[DDRSkata]

That's me. It's laptop demo action, but it gives you some idea.

[Aesop Rocks]

Now THAT I am diggin'!!!