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SuGarRush
09-01-2005, 02:40 PM
A thread to Mr. Terrific, one of my new favorite heroes. Dang this guy is cool.
So pictures, comments and anything else about him is more than welcome.
I do have a question though, anyone know if he ever had his own series? or played a prominent part in the TPB's of JSA or anything?


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/hyiroprotagonist/mr_terrific.jpg

yenaled
09-01-2005, 03:16 PM
he plays a prominant part in just about every JSA story.

sinewave
09-01-2005, 03:50 PM
Yeah, I like him quite a bit, also. He's a great character. The JSA named him their official leader.

Here's some more pics for ya:

http://pc59te.dte.uma.es/cdb/series/dc/bitmaps/mrterrific.jpg

http://www.dccomics.com/secret_files/images/dc/pic_medmrterrific.jpg

There might be more out on the web, but I'm having trouble finding them.

Scorpion
09-01-2005, 03:51 PM
Whoo hoo,..one of DC token Black heroes! Let's hear it for DC!

sinewave
09-01-2005, 03:54 PM
Whoo hoo,..one of DC token Black heroes! Let's hear it for DC!

I know you're probably joking, but what about Black Lightning, Black Manta, Steel, Jakeem Thunder, John Stewart, Thunder, Cyborg (well, half of him anyway :) )? There's plenty of them, man.

Valorman
09-01-2005, 04:13 PM
fair play mutha*****a

Scorpion
09-01-2005, 04:18 PM
I'm not trying to be A Black extemest, but I'm not exactly joking either.

How much have we seen Black Lightning in the past 20 years? Has he ever had his own long running book?

I can't remember the last time I saw Black Manta other than the new Justice book by Alex Ross.

Steel was around for awhile, but John Henry Irons isn't even Steel anymore, his neice is. And I haven't seen her around since Cir-El.

No idea who Jakeem Thunder is, so I can't comment on that. But, since it's a name I am not familiar with, I have to ask, how popular and widely used are they?

John Stewart only showed up again because of the Cartoon Network's JLA cartoon, and I think he was there instead of Kyle Rayner, Hal Jordan, Guy Gardner, or Alan Scott just so that they could try to be P.C. and have a token black character.

Thunder I believe is on the Outsiders, and I'd never heard of that character before that series started. If I'm correct, she was created for that comic, specifically.

Cyborg has been around for awhile, but, again, has he ever had his own ongoing series?

I'm just saying, I'd like to see a few more people with a variety of ethnicities in DC as dominate characters (not sorry a$$ cheap knock offs like Orpheus in a purple trench coat), instead of a token here, and a token there.

Tropico
09-01-2005, 04:27 PM
Not this again! :(

I can't remember the last time I saw Black Manta other than the new Justice book by Alex Ross.

If you read Aquaman you would see that he had a big part in the "Thirst" story arc. He came back after that and made another appearance in last month's Aquaman. If I'm not mistaken he will (again) have a central role in the upcoming story. I'd say he's a recurring character but I don't want to go agaoinst anyone's conceptions. :(

SuGarRush
09-01-2005, 04:28 PM
Please please please don't turn this into a ethnic equality thread. It doesn't matter that he's black or white, Mr. Terrific is just plain cool thats why we like him so much.

So just love him for who he is. I don't think, "oh look Mr. Terrific is black, and cool..."
I think, whoa Mr. Terrific sure is cool!
His being black never enters my mind.

Scorpion
09-01-2005, 04:29 PM
"Not this again! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif"

That's what everybody said in the 60's when Martin Luther King Jr. marched. But, I won't continue,...I know that the majority of the Hype users are anti-heroes of color.

SuGarRush
09-01-2005, 04:33 PM
no, we enjoy heroes of colour just as much or more as anyone else, we just don't care about the colour of a heroes skin, we care about the heart that beats beneath it.

yenaled
09-01-2005, 04:33 PM
How much have we seen Black Lightning in the past 20 years? Has he ever had his own long running book?

This month and last month in Outsiders, next month he is having a two part arc with Green Arrow and he was in Identity Crisis. And yes he had a solo series in the 1970s and then again in 1995.


I can't remember the last time I saw Black Manta other than the new Justice book by Alex Ross.

recently been in an aquaman arc.

No idea who Jakeem Thunder is, so I can't comment on that. But, since it's a name I am not familiar with, I have to ask, how popular and widely used are they?

he is the controller of the thunderbolt. he was in JSA every month till a few issues ago, soon there will be an arc about where he went too.

John Stewart only showed up again because of the Cartoon Network's JLA cartoon, and I think he was there instead of Kyle Rayner, Hal Jordan, Guy Gardner, or Alan Scott just so that they could try to be P.C. and have a token black character.

actually he was selected to be in it as paul dini said he was his favourite green lantern. he can now be seen in both JLA and in the Green Lantern series. Even when he wasn't a green lantern he would regulary be in the comics as a supporting character.

Thunder I believe is on the Outsiders, and I'd never heard of that character before that series started. If I'm correct, she was created for that comic, specifically.

she is black lightnings daughter. well yes she was created for the comic, but so?

Cyborg has been around for awhile, but, again, has he ever had his own ongoing series?

no he hasn't had a solos eries, but he has still been the main stay in the titans for a good thrity years.
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Mr. Terrific is one of the best characters in comics at the moment. To be honest, I can't see your problem with him.

Tropico
09-01-2005, 04:35 PM
That's what everybody said in the 60's when Martin Luther King Jr. marched. But, I won't continue,...I know that the majority of the Hype users are anti-heroes of color.


Chill, dude! This is a thread to praise the character and you came in to belittle it. You should do a search and see that there was a lengthy thread discussing this same theme, It doesn't have any place in here! And if you think that the MAJORITY of the Hype posters are racists you'd be surprised at how wrong you are.

The Question
09-01-2005, 04:39 PM
I'm not trying to be A Black extemest, but I'm not exactly joking either.

Fair enough.

How much have we seen Black Lightning in the past 20 years? Has he ever had his own long running book?

He's currently leading The Outsiders

I can't remember the last time I saw Black Manta other than the new Justice book by Alex Ross.

He's an Aquaman villain, and thus apeares in his book on and off.

Steel was around for awhile, but John Henry Irons isn't even Steel anymore, his neice is. And I haven't seen her around since Cir-El.

Both John and his neice have been apearing in Superman's supporting cast regularly.

No idea who Jakeem Thunder is, so I can't comment on that. But, since it's a name I am not familiar with, I have to ask, how popular and widely used are they?

Jakeem Thunder (also known as J.J. Thunder) is the other junior member of the JSA along with Stargirl (and Captain Marvel, I guess), and is the most recent inheritor of the Thunderbold geni.

John Stewart only showed up again because of the Cartoon Network's JLA cartoon, and I think he was there instead of Kyle Rayner, Hal Jordan, Guy Gardner, or Alan Scott just so that they could try to be P.C. and have a token black character.

Actually, John had been a major supporting character in Kyle's series for years before JL and JLU came on the air. And, he's going to be featured prominantly in Green Lantern Corps: Recharged.

Thunder I believe is on the Outsiders, and I'd never heard of that character before that series started. If I'm correct, she was created for that comic, specifically.

She was. Does that make her any less of a character? Oh, and she's also Black Lightning's daughter.

Cyborg has been around for awhile, but, again, has he ever had his own ongoing series?

No, but he's a very major character in TT. Has been for years.

I'm just saying, I'd like to see a few more people with a variety of ethnicities in DC as dominate characters (not sorry a$$ cheap knock offs like Orpheus in a purple trench coat), instead of a token here, and a token there.

I see what you're saying. But I'd only agree with that if they focus on the character, and not just try and say "hey look, this guy's (insert nationality/ethnicity/religion here)".

The Question
09-01-2005, 04:42 PM
Please please please don't turn this into a ethnic equality thread. It doesn't matter that he's black or white, Mr. Terrific is just plain cool thats why we like him so much.

So just love him for who he is. I don't think, "oh look Mr. Terrific is black, and cool..."
I think, whoa Mr. Terrific sure is cool!
His being black never enters my mind.


Exactly. And yes, Mr. T (oh my God, I just got that) is one hella cool character. Batman has even riped of his tech, he's so cool.

sinewave
09-01-2005, 04:48 PM
Exactly. And yes, Mr. T (oh my God, I just got that) is one hella cool character. Batman has even riped of his tech, he's so cool.

Yup, the dude's one of the smartest human characters in the DCU. I 'd love to see him get his own on-going series or at least a mini. He's very uderrated and underutilized.

yenaled
09-01-2005, 04:48 PM
Just found this:

http://www.blacksuperhero.com/images/exh-dc-mrterrific.jpg

looking at the signature it is drawn by Simone Bianchi, who is currently drawing seven soldiers: shining knight, and will be drawing green lantern soon.

but I could be wrong.

sinewave
09-01-2005, 04:51 PM
Just found this:

http://www.blacksuperhero.com/images/exh-dc-mrterrific.jpg

looking at the signature it is drawn by Simon Bianchi, who is currently drawing seven soldiers: shining knight, and will be drawing green lantern soon.

but I could be wrong.

Yeah, that's a cool pic, I wanted to post it but was looking for a larger version. Unfortunately there's not a lot of pics of him available on-line. :(

A_French_Gal
09-01-2005, 04:51 PM
Mr. Terrific is pure awesome. I love his T-spheres!

The Question
09-01-2005, 04:55 PM
Did anyone notice that his name can be shortened to "Mr. T"? Is that a coincidence, or a gag put in by the writers? I mean, I know Mr. Terrific predates T, but since the new one is black, I'm just saying, it's funny. Even though he's about 1,000,000 times smarter than Mr. T.

yenaled
09-01-2005, 05:00 PM
I think it is a coincidence. Well I wouldn't even call it a coincidense as Michael Holt doesn't look anything like Mr. T except that he is black and male. ;)

Scorpion
09-01-2005, 05:01 PM
[QUOTE] "This month and last month in Outsiders, next month he is having a two part arc with Green Arrow and he was in Identity Crisis. And yes he had a solo series in the 1970s and then again in 1995."

Wow, this month and last month,...not bad for a character that's been around since the 70's. And in Identity Crisis,...he did have a rather big part in that, didn't he? And, dang he had his own series in the 70's and '95? Then he's had more than his fair share of airtime.

[QUOTE]"recently been in an aquaman arc."

That's astonishing! One of the few rogue's gallery Aquaman actually has, recently was afforded an arch. Did he have his helment off at any time during that arch?

[QUOTE]"he is the controller of the thunderbolt. he was in JSA every month till a few issues ago, soon there will be an arc about where he went too."

It's weird that I've been reading various DC titles for 20 or more years and I don't recall ever hearing about him. I'm sure he's an overly used character, I must have just missed him.

[QUOTE]"actually he was selected to be in it as paul dini said he was his favourite green lantern. he can now be seen in both JLA and in the Green Lantern series. Even when he wasn't a green lantern he would regulary be in the comics as a supporting character."

Really, I can't remember the last time I saw him in comics before his return around 2002-ish.

[QUOTE]"she is black lightnings daughter. well yes she was created for the comic, but so?"

Just notating that she's not a main character and was created as, no doubt, another token character for filler.

[QUOTE]"no he hasn't had a solos eries, but he has still been the main stay in the titans for a good thrity years."

Cyborg made his first appearance in October of 1980, hardly "a good 30 years," and has been in the various Titans books, over the years. I would hardly say he's been a constant.

Does DC have even one character on par with Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, or the majority of the GLs? I can't think of one.

The Question
09-01-2005, 05:01 PM
I think it is a coincidence. Well I wouldn't even call it a coincidense as Michael Holt doesn't look anything like Mr. T except that he is black and male. ;)



Good point. I'm just saying, the writer had to have noticed that. Anyway, Terrific is hella cool. One of the best.

Assassin
09-01-2005, 05:03 PM
My new fav character

The Question
09-01-2005, 05:03 PM
Really, I can't remember the last time I saw him in comics before his return around 2002-ish.


He had been a major supporting character in Kyle's book for years befor 2002.

Tropico
09-01-2005, 05:08 PM
http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2004/aug25/mrterrific.jpg

http://members.aol.com/whoclix/mrterr.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/jsa-70.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/cassady475.jpg

King_Mungi
09-01-2005, 05:25 PM
That's astonishing! One of the few rogue's gallery Aquaman actually has, recently was afforded an arch. Did he have his helment off at any time during that arch?

Does DC have even one character on par with Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, or the majority of the GLs? I can't think of one.

Yes, even his new helmet in the recent ark has glass in the front clearly showing he is a black man. On the surface we see him talking to a corporation about his endeavers and shows he is a black man. Hell even in Justice #1 he took off his helment.

Actually he will be, he is doing gene thearpy to turn himself into a full water breather like Aquaman. He is Aquaman's main rogue.

sinewave
09-01-2005, 05:27 PM
http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2004/aug25/mrterrific.jpg

http://members.aol.com/whoclix/mrterr.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/jsa-70.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/cassady475.jpg

Great pics, Trop! Especially the one by John Cassaday! Where'd you find them?

SuGarRush
09-01-2005, 06:06 PM
that first one there of Dr. Mid-nite and Mr. Terrific (two of my new fave heroes) they both look sooooo bad. in a good way rather.

Who is that artist? I will assume thats JSA, anyone know the issue numbers?


And yes, I would LOVE for Mr. Terrific to get his own series, just like Dr. Mid-nite did, I'd just rather that Terrific's had some decent art...

DarkKnightJRK
09-01-2005, 06:19 PM
Cyborg made his first appearance in October of 1980, hardly "a good 30 years," and has been in the various Titans books, over the years. I would hardly say he's been a constant.

Still 25 years. The only series of TT he WASN'T in was the first TT series during the 60's.

Does DC have even one character on par with Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, or the majority of the GLs? I can't think of one.

Green Arrow.

Boomshakalaka.

The Question
09-01-2005, 06:20 PM
How about, a Mr. Terrific series drawn by Alex Maleve and written by Grant Morrison. That would be a sweet book.

DarkKnightJRK
09-01-2005, 06:20 PM
How about, a Mr. Terrific series drawn by Alex Maleve and written by Grant Morrison. That would be a sweet book.

Sweet? More like F**KIN' RICHIEOUS. :o

The Question
09-01-2005, 06:23 PM
I don't know what "richieous" means, but if you're saying it's a good idea, I agree.

SuGarRush
09-01-2005, 06:26 PM
I agree with Question, if Richeous means incredible, I'd be in!


heck, I think it would be.... TERRIFIC!

The Question
09-01-2005, 06:27 PM
*rimshot*

Tropico
09-01-2005, 06:33 PM
Great pics, Trop! Especially the one by John Cassaday! Where'd you find them?

I Googled them by typing "Mr. Terrific". It's a shame that all the images for the cover to JSA All Stars #7 (the Cassaday pic was used for that one) sucked, they were too small. I love the Mr. Terrific character, but I felt his part in the time travel story, or rather the story itself was lack luster. The character deserves better.

DarkKnightJRK
09-01-2005, 06:34 PM
I don't know what "richieous" means, but if you're saying it's a good idea, I agree.

F**k you, I don't know how to spell it. :mad:

Tropico
09-01-2005, 06:36 PM
Yeah! It's not like he's writing "crotching" instead of "crouching". :D

The Question
09-01-2005, 06:37 PM
*hi fives Tropico*

DarkKnightJRK
09-01-2005, 06:39 PM
What's going on and why do I think I'm the butt of that joke? :confused: :(

Scorpion
09-01-2005, 06:39 PM
"Righteous."

The Question
09-01-2005, 06:46 PM
What's going on and why do I think I'm the butt of that joke? :confused: :(

What's going on is that Trop was mocking you for your spelling "crouching" as "crotching". And you get the feeeling that you're the butt end of the joke because you are. But it's okay. We still love you.


















In a platonic way.

jaydawg
09-01-2005, 08:44 PM
Yeah, Mr.Terrific totally ****ing rocks. Great backstory, great character. Just letting you guys all know he's get his own episode on Justice League Unlimited this season. You know its gonna kick ass.

DarkKnightJRK
09-01-2005, 08:47 PM
Yeah, Mr.Terrific totally ****ing rocks. Great backstory, great character. Just letting you guys all know he's get his own episode on Justice League Unlimited this season. You know its gonna kick ass.

No s**t? F**kin' sweet. :batman::up:

Varient
09-01-2005, 10:58 PM
Reading along,................

SuGarRush
09-04-2005, 10:58 AM
do we know when it is going to be?

sinewave
09-04-2005, 11:22 AM
I Googled them by typing "Mr. Terrific". It's a shame that all the images for the cover to JSA All Stars #7 (the Cassaday pic was used for that one) sucked, they were too small. I love the Mr. Terrific character, but I felt his part in the time travel story, or rather the story itself was lack luster. The character deserves better.

Hmm, I tried that and got tons of pics of the orig. Mr. Terrific and some pics of just random dudes who thought they were terrific. You must have the touch.

sinewave
09-04-2005, 11:25 AM
How about, a Mr. Terrific series drawn by Alex Maleve and written by Grant Morrison. That would be a sweet book.

I'd be down with that, but I'm thinking maybe Geoff Johns (I know, he should be writing every book) and Phil Hester or John Cassaday.

sinewave
09-04-2005, 11:29 AM
Yeah, Mr.Terrific totally ****ing rocks. Great backstory, great character. Just letting you guys all know he's get his own episode on Justice League Unlimited this season. You know its gonna kick ass.

I love that effing show! That Cadmus arc with the Question was freaking amazing! 80% of what's great about it is just trying to spot all the random 2nd and 3rd string characters like Hourman and Star Girl. Can't wait for Mr. "Fair Play" to get under the spotlight. Well deserved.

ShadowBoxing
09-04-2005, 11:59 AM
I do like Mr Terrific. I also like that while being African American he is not a typical stereotype. It reminds me of Bishop in the early ninties where he acted like the antithesis of the stereotype (I also like how they showed that he and Storm, not a stereotype either, were night and day). Similarly Mr Terrific is shown as smart and a cut above the rest, he is awesome. Its always good to show that surrounding, and not race, it whats makes someone who they are.

SuGarRush
09-04-2005, 05:52 PM
Exactly, he acts like a succesful, intelligent PERSON. He isn't trying to talk jive or "slap five" like Cage used to.
He isn't all black power.
He is a person, he worked hard, he got rewarded.
he continues to work hard, he becomes a superhero. I mean it sounds pretty like a pretty darn cool guy to me...

DarkKnightJRK
09-04-2005, 07:31 PM
I'm surprised that no one has made any cracks about why our current "Fair Play" is so TERRIFIC, if you know what I mean. ;)

sinewave
09-05-2005, 12:34 AM
Exactly, he acts like a succesful, intelligent PERSON. He isn't trying to talk jive or "slap five" like Cage used to.
He isn't all black power.
He is a person, he worked hard, he got rewarded.
he continues to work hard, he becomes a superhero. I mean it sounds pretty like a pretty darn cool guy to me...

Yes, the modern Bill Cosby would be proud! :D

deemar325
09-05-2005, 09:43 AM
no, we enjoy heroes of colour just as much or more as anyone else, we just don't care about the colour of a heroes skin, we care about the heart that beats beneath it.

I concur Mr. T..Mr.T? hey!! ;)

deemar325
09-05-2005, 09:55 AM
[QUOTE] "This month and last month in Outsiders, next month he is having a two part arc with Green Arrow and he was in Identity Crisis. And yes he had a solo series in the 1970s and then again in 1995."

Wow, this month and last month,...not bad for a character that's been around since the 70's. And in Identity Crisis,...he did have a rather big part in that, didn't he? And, dang he had his own series in the 70's and '95? Then he's had more than his fair share of airtime.

[QUOTE]"recently been in an aquaman arc."

That's astonishing! One of the few rogue's gallery Aquaman actually has, recently was afforded an arch. Did he have his helment off at any time during that arch?

[QUOTE]"he is the controller of the thunderbolt. he was in JSA every month till a few issues ago, soon there will be an arc about where he went too."

It's weird that I've been reading various DC titles for 20 or more years and I don't recall ever hearing about him. I'm sure he's an overly used character, I must have just missed him.

[QUOTE]"actually he was selected to be in it as paul dini said he was his favourite green lantern. he can now be seen in both JLA and in the Green Lantern series. Even when he wasn't a green lantern he would regulary be in the comics as a supporting character."

Really, I can't remember the last time I saw him in comics before his return around 2002-ish.

[QUOTE]"she is black lightnings daughter. well yes she was created for the comic, but so?"

Just notating that she's not a main character and was created as, no doubt, another token character for filler.

[QUOTE]"no he hasn't had a solos eries, but he has still been the main stay in the titans for a good thrity years."

Cyborg made his first appearance in October of 1980, hardly "a good 30 years," and has been in the various Titans books, over the years. I would hardly say he's been a constant.

Does DC have even one character on par with Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, or the majority of the GLs? I can't think of one.

Dude! I'm black also, your getting bent outta shape for nuthin. Mr.Terrific is an Cool @$$ character! an he is the Leader of the JSA, what more do ya want?
Yeah DC is kinda lacking with minority heroes, but their actively changing that Most of these characters where created before the civil right movement the world(America) wasn't ready for black superheroes, but because of guys like Stan Lee/Kirby they made it possible just enjoy the character for what it is.

sinewave
09-05-2005, 12:56 PM
[QUOTE=Scorpion][QUOTE] "This month and last month in Outsiders, next month he is having a two part arc with Green Arrow and he was in Identity Crisis. And yes he had a solo series in the 1970s and then again in 1995."

Wow, this month and last month,...not bad for a character that's been around since the 70's. And in Identity Crisis,...he did have a rather big part in that, didn't he? And, dang he had his own series in the 70's and '95? Then he's had more than his fair share of airtime.

[QUOTE]"recently been in an aquaman arc."

That's astonishing! One of the few rogue's gallery Aquaman actually has, recently was afforded an arch. Did he have his helment off at any time during that arch?

[QUOTE]"he is the controller of the thunderbolt. he was in JSA every month till a few issues ago, soon there will be an arc about where he went too."

It's weird that I've been reading various DC titles for 20 or more years and I don't recall ever hearing about him. I'm sure he's an overly used character, I must have just missed him.

[QUOTE]"actually he was selected to be in it as paul dini said he was his favourite green lantern. he can now be seen in both JLA and in the Green Lantern series. Even when he wasn't a green lantern he would regulary be in the comics as a supporting character."

Really, I can't remember the last time I saw him in comics before his return around 2002-ish.

[QUOTE]"she is black lightnings daughter. well yes she was created for the comic, but so?"

Just notating that she's not a main character and was created as, no doubt, another token character for filler.



Dude! I'm black also, your getting bent outta shape for nuthin. Mr.Terrific is an Cool @$$ character! an he is the Leader of the JSA, what more do ya want?
Yeah DC is kinda lacking with minority heroes, but their actively changing that Most of these characters where created before the civil right movement the world(America) wasn't ready for black superheroes, but because of guys like Stan Lee/Kirby they made it possible just enjoy the character for what it is.

Well said, dude! :) :up:

batnkevlar
09-05-2005, 02:39 PM
Yeah, I personally don't care whether Mr. Terrific is black or not, other than that he's black and not written sterotypically... One day, I want kids to say "When I grow up, I'm gonna be Mr. Terrific!"

That'd be cool...

TheCorpulent1
09-05-2005, 02:50 PM
I want to hear a white kid say, "When I grow up, I'm gonna be Mr. Terrific!" :)

batnkevlar
09-05-2005, 02:52 PM
I want to hear a white kid say, "When I grow up, I'm gonna be Mr. Terrific!" :)

Hey, I'm not black and I look up to the guy... well, Him, Hal Jordan, Batman, the Flash, and Beast Boy...

TheCorpulent1
09-05-2005, 02:53 PM
Yeah, I'm not black and I like him too. I just think it'd be funny to see a white kid say that. :)

Whoa, wait a second, you look up to Beast Boy??

batnkevlar
09-05-2005, 02:55 PM
Yeah, I'm not black and I like him too. I just think it'd be funny to see a white kid say that. :)

Whoa, wait a second, you look up to Beast Boy??

Well, only cuz McKone and the other guy (artist of Beast Boy minseries) draws Beast Boy so he looks like me... so I feel a certain clone-brotherhood to BB...

DarkKnightJRK
09-05-2005, 02:58 PM
Well, only cuz McKone and the other guy (artist of Beast Boy minseries) draws Beast Boy so he looks like me... so I feel a certain clone-brotherhood to BB...

And let's not forget that he's preety much going out with the hot goth chick. :up:

deemar325
09-05-2005, 03:06 PM
[QUOTE=deemar325][QUOTE=Scorpion][QUOTE] "This month and last month in Outsiders, next month he is having a two part arc with Green Arrow and he was in Identity Crisis. And yes he had a solo series in the 1970s and then again in 1995."

Wow, this month and last month,...not bad for a character that's been around since the 70's. And in Identity Crisis,...he did have a rather big part in that, didn't he? And, dang he had his own series in the 70's and '95? Then he's had more than his fair share of airtime.

[QUOTE]"recently been in an aquaman arc."

That's astonishing! One of the few rogue's gallery Aquaman actually has, recently was afforded an arch. Did he have his helment off at any time during that arch?

[QUOTE]"he is the controller of the thunderbolt. he was in JSA every month till a few issues ago, soon there will be an arc about where he went too."

It's weird that I've been reading various DC titles for 20 or more years and I don't recall ever hearing about him. I'm sure he's an overly used character, I must have just missed him.

[QUOTE]"actually he was selected to be in it as paul dini said he was his favourite green lantern. he can now be seen in both JLA and in the Green Lantern series. Even when he wasn't a green lantern he would regulary be in the comics as a supporting character."

Really, I can't remember the last time I saw him in comics before his return around 2002-ish.



Well said, dude! :) :up:

Thanks Homey!

Tropico
09-05-2005, 04:51 PM
And let's not forget that he's preety much going out with the hot goth chick. :up:

And what Elseworlds reality is this happening in?

Corpy, I would love for the Mr. Terrific thing to happen like you describe it too; but I'll have a nagging feeling that there already was a white Mr. Terrific, even if it's not the current one (and the one kids would probably be saying they want to be like). We've already seen the power of television and the wonders it's done to an obscure character like the Question. If they make Mr. T cool in the JLU episode there's a good chance that his popularity will rise.:up::D

Someone post more pictures, dammit!!!!:mad:

TheCorpulent1
09-05-2005, 04:59 PM
Yeah, I thought of Terry. But, really, who outside of major comic fans would know about the original Mr. Terrific? Certainly not some kid who's probably just reading JSA because their older siblings or parents read it. I'll join you in hoping that Mr. Terrific gets a great showcase in JLU, though. Look at the wonders it's done for John Stewart as GL. :p

And, since you asked so nicely, here's his super-nifty cover for JSA All-Stars:
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/44490220045.7.GIF

batnkevlar
09-05-2005, 05:01 PM
So what exactly did the original Mr. Terrific do?

Tropico
09-05-2005, 05:06 PM
Yeah, I thought of Terry. But, really, who outside of major comic fans would know about the original Mr. Terrific? Certainly not some kid who's probably just reading JSA because their older siblings or parents read it. I'll join you in hoping that Mr. Terrific gets a great showcase in JLU, though. Look at the wonders it's done for John Stewart as GL. :p

And, since you asked so nicely, here's his super-nifty cover for JSA All-Stars:
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/44490220045.7.GIF

YAY! The color version of the Cassaday pic. I couldn't get any decent ones when I searched.

Batnkevlar, the original Mr. Terrific was almost the same as the current one. He was a genius and all around athlete. Think of it as the current Mr. Terrific without the tech.

DarkKnightJRK
09-05-2005, 05:16 PM
And what Elseworlds reality is this happening in?

The current Teen Titans stories. :)

Tropico
09-05-2005, 05:29 PM
The current Teen Titans stories. :)

Riiiiiiight.:rolleyes:

TheCorpulent1
09-05-2005, 05:59 PM
So what exactly did the original Mr. Terrific do?
Die. And, I think, before that he used to fight crime or something. ;)

Oh, and he's the current Roulette's uncle.

Scorpion
09-05-2005, 08:34 PM
[QUOTE=sinewave][QUOTE=deemar325][QUOTE=Scorpion][QUOTE] "This month and last month in Outsiders, next month he is having a two part arc with Green Arrow and he was in Identity Crisis. And yes he had a solo series in the 1970s and then again in 1995."

Wow, this month and last month,...not bad for a character that's been around since the 70's. And in Identity Crisis,...he did have a rather big part in that, didn't he? And, dang he had his own series in the 70's and '95? Then he's had more than his fair share of airtime.

[QUOTE]"recently been in an aquaman arc."

That's astonishing! One of the few rogue's gallery Aquaman actually has, recently was afforded an arch. Did he have his helment off at any time during that arch?

[QUOTE]"he is the controller of the thunderbolt. he was in JSA every month till a few issues ago, soon there will be an arc about where he went too."

It's weird that I've been reading various DC titles for 20 or more years and I don't recall ever hearing about him. I'm sure he's an overly used character, I must have just missed him.



Thanks Homey!

You're welcome.

sinewave
09-06-2005, 12:20 AM
[QUOTE=deemar325][QUOTE=sinewave][QUOTE=deemar325][QUOTE=Scorpion][QUOTE] "This month and last month in Outsiders, next month he is having a two part arc with Green Arrow and he was in Identity Crisis. And yes he had a solo series in the 1970s and then again in 1995."

Wow, this month and last month,...not bad for a character that's been around since the 70's. And in Identity Crisis,...he did have a rather big part in that, didn't he? And, dang he had his own series in the 70's and '95? Then he's had more than his fair share of airtime.

[QUOTE]"recently been in an aquaman arc."

That's astonishing! One of the few rogue's gallery Aquaman actually has, recently was afforded an arch. Did he have his helment off at any time during that arch?



You're welcome.

HA! You make me smile, you so-and-so, you! :D

Anubis
09-06-2005, 01:32 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/DC/JSA_44.jpg

Yeah, I know this was on page two. But mines bigger. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/DC/jsa70.jpg

Assassin
09-06-2005, 03:09 AM
sweet

Scorpion
09-06-2005, 05:22 AM
[QUOTE=Scorpion][QUOTE=deemar325][QUOTE=sinewave][QUOTE=deemar325][QUOTE=Scorpion][QUOTE] "This month and last month in Outsiders, next month he is having a two part arc with Green Arrow and he was in Identity Crisis. And yes he had a solo series in the 1970s and then again in 1995."

Wow, this month and last month,...not bad for a character that's been around since the 70's. And in Identity Crisis,...he did have a rather big part in that, didn't he? And, dang he had his own series in the 70's and '95? Then he's had more than his fair share of airtime.



HA! You make me smile, you so-and-so, you! :D

Glad I could brighten yer day.:cool:

deemar325
09-07-2005, 01:33 AM
[QUOTE=sinewave][QUOTE=Scorpion][QUOTE=deemar325][QUOTE=sinewave][QUOTE=deemar325][QUOTE=Scorpion]

Glad I could brighten yer day.:cool:

You guys are silly as hell!:spidey:

ang_hulk
09-07-2005, 02:29 AM
what are his powers and how did he get them?

Anubis
09-07-2005, 02:56 AM
He doesn't have any powers. He's a master of multiple martial arts, and he hold doctorates in multiple sciences. One of the Smartest guys on the DC Earth. He also has these T-Spheres which are devices that do anything from, holograms, to hacking computers.

sinewave
09-07-2005, 10:27 AM
what are his powers and how did he get them?

Yeah, like Anubis said, he's not a meta or anything, he's just (supposedly) the smartest human on earth, has won multiple Olympic medals, is a master of several forms of martial arts and he built his costume to be non-detectable to ANY electronic device, kind of a a stealth suit, I think it's bullet-proof too. He's got the psychically controlled (I think) T-spheres that perform several functions, like act as projectiles and cameras and fire various gases and whatnot. His T-mask is made of some special compound where he can will it on and off and it acts as a gas mask and I think a re-breather. He's a lot like Batman, but with better technology and less anger.

sinewave
09-07-2005, 10:29 AM
[QUOTE=Scorpion][QUOTE=sinewave][QUOTE=Scorpion][QUOTE=deemar325][QUOTE=sinewave][QUOTE=deemar325]

You guys are silly as hell!:spidey:

Thanks, man! :D

TheCorpulent1
09-07-2005, 10:31 AM
His forte seems to be inventing and engineering. Batman was so impressed with his T-spheres that he stole the design and used them as a method of delivering emergency instructions to the JLA. He also tends to assist Dr. Mid-Nite in all of the JSA's medical procedures, so I guess one of his doctorates might be an MD or some kind of biological science.

superhater
09-08-2005, 11:08 AM
DC doesn't care about black people. Sorry I just couldn't resist.

deemar325
09-08-2005, 11:58 AM
DC doesn't care about black people. Sorry I just couldn't resist.

Lol!!! heh,heh! :yellow:

SuGarRush
09-08-2005, 01:51 PM
poor poor foolish Kanye....

Detective501
09-09-2005, 04:42 PM
Whoo hoo,..one of DC token Black heroes! Let's hear it for DC!

Mr. Terrific is anything but token.

DarkKnightJRK
09-09-2005, 05:43 PM
He's a lot like Batman, but with better technology and less anger.

Yeah, his is more grief. I've seen many a issue where he's reminising on his dead wife.

TheCorpulent1
09-09-2005, 05:55 PM
That's the basis for a really interesting character arc in JSA where Dr. Mid-Nite tries to expose Mr. Terrific to spirituality and stuff to help him get over his wife's death. That's the really tragic part about it: Terrific's so smart and so devoted to science that he can't even let himself believe in a Heaven to allow himself the comfort of believing his wife may be in a better place.

DarkKnightJRK
09-09-2005, 06:39 PM
That's the basis for a really interesting character arc in JSA where Dr. Mid-Nite tries to expose Mr. Terrific to spirituality and stuff to help him get over his wife's death. That's the really tragic part about it: Terrific's so smart and so devoted to science that he can't even let himself believe in a Heaven to allow himself the comfort of believing his wife may be in a better place.

That...that makes no sence whatsoever. I mean, considering that one of the founding members of the JSA was a frickin' ANGEL, isn't that proof enough?

Anubis
09-09-2005, 06:43 PM
Just because a guy says he's an angel doesn't mean he is one.

DarkKnightJRK
09-09-2005, 06:51 PM
Just because a guy says he's an angel doesn't mean he is one.

There's also JLA member Zaurael. The fact that Wonder Woman exists is proof of SOME sort of diety in the world. Green Arrow left heaven.

You see what I mean?

TheCorpulent1
09-09-2005, 07:28 PM
That doesn't mean anything. The Spectre is powerful, sure, but Dr. Fate is nearly as powerful at his best and he makes no claims to being in any way associated with Heaven or a real God. How is Zauriel supposed to prove to Terrific that he's from Heaven and that there is a God? Superman's a totally mortal alien and he's far more powerful than Zauriel, and Green Lantern flies around with a ring so technologically advanced on his finger that it's indistinguishable from magic, so Zauriel's impressive powers or Heavenly gifts won't prove anything. I think you're underestimating the power of skepticism.

Anubis
09-09-2005, 07:31 PM
Sure I see what you mean, but the thing is, he's a scientist. And like most scientists, he's skeptical about such things. Especially if he hasn't seen the proof with his own eyes. Like for instance, GA, died and was in heaven for a good while. He knows whats out there. Terrfic hasn't been there, so how is he to know. Especially with all the other stuff you have to contend with. Like you said, WW and her Gods. THe New Gods. God like beings showing up every month trying to take over the universe. I can understand why most people would be a bit skeptical. As a man of science, such beings are just one more all powerful being with a claim to God hood.

That said, I belive he's already come to terms with all that. I forgot what issue, but I know it happened. I gotta go back and look. I'll probally get back to everybody with that. Or somebody else can post it.

DarkKnightJRK
09-09-2005, 07:35 PM
Sure I see what you mean, but the thing is, he's a scientist. And like most scientists, he's skeptical about such things.

No offence, but that's really stereotypic and mostly wrong.

Honestly, last year in my Biology class, my teacher gave all of us a lecture about this. While there are certainly the hard-core athiests in the field, it's actually the minority. Most scientists either try to credit both ideas (evolution and creationism), or just don't care about it and just try to explain things in their world.

TheCorpulent1
09-09-2005, 07:41 PM
Doesn't matter what most scientists believe, it's been stated in the comics that Mr. Terrific doesn't believe in God. Whether that puts him in the majority or minority among other scientists is another story.

Amira
09-09-2005, 07:45 PM
I love jsa! :)

Anubis
09-09-2005, 08:46 PM
I love apple Martini's

No offence, but that's really stereotypic and mostly wrong.

Honestly, last year in my Biology class, my teacher gave all of us a lecture about this. While there are certainly the hard-core athiests in the field, it's actually the minority. Most scientists either try to credit both ideas (evolution and creationism), or just don't care about it and just try to explain things in their world.


Your right, and I shouldn't have made the generalization. So, many scientists are in fact atheists and or agnostic.

chamber-music
09-10-2005, 08:40 AM
I have heard of heard of Mr Terrific but never read anything of him in in it but this thread has got me intrested in the character. Is there any sites with a bio or backsrory on the character. Does he have any arch enemies or anything.

Anubis
09-10-2005, 08:59 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Terrific_%28comics%29

As far as arch enemies, I guess Roulette would be the closest. She is the niece of the orginal Terrific. I think she has a thing for him. You can find a good story about her in JSA: Fair Play. As well as JSA: Lost.

sinewave
09-10-2005, 03:01 PM
I love jsa! :)

I love apple Martini's

I love Jeebus! :)

batnkevlar
09-10-2005, 03:54 PM
The way i figure it, and I am a scientific guy, is that God exists, that God runs physics and such, and lets everything run, like evolution. We don't need magical explanation. He IS science. The only way you can believe in evolution AND God is that you don't take the Bible literally, and I believe they are parables meant to teach lessons.

But Mr. Terrific is SO cool...

TheCorpulent1
09-10-2005, 04:29 PM
That's a popular theory these days. A lot of scientists tend to "fill in the gaps," so to speak, with God until empirical data proves how something works.

BlackOpsTengu
09-10-2005, 05:14 PM
Excepting of course that whole annoying, missing energy concept most scientists try not to think about.

The Big Bang theory assumes an original concentration of energy. Where did this energy come from? Astronomers sometimes speak of origin from a "quantum mechanical fluctuation within a vacuum." However, an energy source is still needed. Actually, there is no secular origin theory, since every idea is based on preexisting matter or energy.

More over, after centuries of study, there is no true defination as to what energy actually is. It can't be created or destroyed. You can explain the effects of energy, but you cannot explain its origions or why it chooses to work the way it does. It's like trying to explain what love is to an Emperor Penguin.

Not to spin us off course too much, but surely in the DC universe, most scientists realize that there is quite a bit out there that doesn't obey the laws of science.

sinewave
09-10-2005, 05:34 PM
How did a thread celebrating a great DC superhero devolve into a debate of science vs. religion? Someone post more cool pics of Mr. Terrific, please? This is getting kinda OT.

Anubis
09-10-2005, 08:51 PM
Sorry, but thats pretty much all the Mr. Terrific pics there is. Oh, wait, I got this one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/other%20stuff/Commission1.jpg

Now, if I had a scanner, we'd be in business.

Scorpion
09-10-2005, 10:21 PM
It baffles me how people will accept ANY answer, no matter how complex or how utterly ridiculous for the universe's beginning, EXCEPT God. People want so badly for there not to be a God so that they don't have to answer for their actions or be accountable for anything they do. And they want to think that Humanity is the ultimate source of authority in the universe. I got news for ya guys, you're in for a rude awakening.

Anubis
09-10-2005, 10:23 PM
I believe in God, I just don't think we are as important as we like to think we are to God.

batnkevlar
09-11-2005, 03:03 AM
I believe in God, but not in the Bible, nor do I believe God is as manipulative, arrogant, and condescending as everyone makes him out to be...

TheCorpulent1
09-11-2005, 10:34 AM
It baffles me how people will accept ANY answer, no matter how complex or how utterly ridiculous for the universe's beginning, EXCEPT God. People want so badly for there not to be a God so that they don't have to answer for their actions or be accountable for anything they do. And they want to think that Humanity is the ultimate source of authority in the universe. I got news for ya guys, you're in for a rude awakening.
Some people simply acknowledge that they don't know what happened during the creation of the universe. I'm sure there are a lot of scientists out there who know that the Big Bang doesn't follow certain scientific laws but just assume that there are other, undiscovered sciences and laws that cover it. Maybe it's beyond our capacity to understand, since obviously the universe doesn't exist simply for human beings to understand it. But just because there are things that people don't know, doesn't mean that they automatically MUST assume the existence of a God.

Tropico
09-11-2005, 10:54 AM
Look! More pictures! PICTURES!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/Mr.jpg

TheCorpulent1
09-11-2005, 11:42 AM
Pictures are teh pwnZZ0rZ!

Nice edit with Cave there. Subtle. :)

Zeu
09-11-2005, 12:53 PM
Hmm, I like the concept of the character but something in his uniform needs tweaking.
If I got my hands on him, I´d get rid of the jacket or update it somewhat.
Too 90´s.

A thing that has always bugged the hell outta me in black superheroes is that aside from Icon and maybe Storm, most aren´t usually very high in the food chain in terms of power.
They´re either streetlevelers with a gimmick or base their powers on technology.

Where are the equivalents of Superman and Wonder Woman, REAL demigods instead of guys with toys?

sinewave
09-11-2005, 05:47 PM
Look! More pictures! PICTURES!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/Mr.jpg

Woot! Thanks! I like how that page ends. Geoff Johns has a great sense of humor. Can you scan more shots for us, Trop?

sinewave
09-11-2005, 05:50 PM
Hmm, I like the concept of the character but something in his uniform needs tweaking.
If I got my hands on him, I´d get rid of the jacket or update it somewhat.
Too 90´s.

A thing that has always bugged the hell outta me in black superheroes is that aside from Icon and maybe Storm, most aren´t usually very high in the food chain in terms of power.
They´re either streetlevelers with a gimmick or base their powers on technology.

Where are the equivalents of Superman and Wonder Woman, REAL demigods instead of guys with toys?

Yeah, that jacket is looking pretty tacky these days. If I could draw worth a damn I'd post some ideas for a few updates to it. Anyone else feel free to, though.

Anubis
09-11-2005, 05:51 PM
A thing that has always bugged the hell outta me in black superheroes is that aside from Icon and maybe Storm, most aren´t usually very high in the food chain in terms of power.
They´re either streetlevelers with a gimmick or base their powers on technology.

Where are the equivalents of Superman and Wonder Woman, REAL demigods instead of guys with toys?


Yeah, thats pretty much the main problem with black Superheros. Sure, people can respect a hero without powers. I mean, look at Batman. But there should at least be a few that have that massive power that seems to be lacking in black heros. There was Icon, the current Firestorm is maybe one of the most powerful heros period. But you look at everybody else and they're all pretty much moderate power to street level.

LanternFan
09-11-2005, 06:02 PM
You know what pisses me off to no end? The demeaning way that purple superheros have been portrayed in comics. I mean how many purple heroes can you think of just off the top of your head???

That's what I thought. I'm tired of this poop.

Tropico
09-11-2005, 06:25 PM
Woot! Thanks! I like how that page ends. Geoff Johns has a great sense of humor. Can you scan more shots for us, Trop?

I'm looking for worthy stuff to put up, I'm going through my comics right now. I haven't found the one where he fights Kobra. THAT I will DEFINITELY scan. Interesting stuff I've found:

-He's got a GOLD medal from Olympic Decathlon.
-Dr. Midnite says that he doesn't know how Mr.T has all the degrees he has when it was hard enough for Midnite to get just his medical Phd. Coming from a guy who got his degree at 19 years old is impressive.
-Common quote I've found regarding Mr.T: "He's mastered almost every skill in the world, every sport, every subject; except faith."
-His wife was pregnant when she was killed.
-Jakeem doesn't like Terrific's costume. I found this particularly relevant since people in this thread have been complaining about it. Personally, I like it.
-Terrific's mask (which is adhered by nanites to his face) is more than just some funky face paint; it actually protects the area it covers well enough that getting sprayed with mace didn't faze him.

Tropico
09-11-2005, 11:09 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/MrT1.jpg

Scorpion
09-12-2005, 01:27 AM
You know what pisses me off to no end? The demeaning way that purple superheros have been portrayed in comics. I mean how many purple heroes can you think of just off the top of your head???

That's what I thought. I'm tired of this poop.

You're a MORON.

Tropico
09-12-2005, 11:54 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/MrT3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/MrT2.jpg

Varient
10-25-2006, 09:08 AM
Digging up all the Just Because / Just Becuase threads in search of Psyloc,.. Just Becuase.

Zeu
10-25-2006, 09:58 AM
Yeah, that jacket is looking pretty tacky these days. If I could draw worth a damn I'd post some ideas for a few updates to it. Anyone else feel free to, though.

Is that a challenge? :D :D


Yeah, thats pretty much the main problem with black Superheros. Sure, people can respect a hero without powers. I mean, look at Batman. But there should at least be a few that have that massive power that seems to be lacking in black heros. There was Icon, the current Firestorm is maybe one of the most powerful heros period. But you look at everybody else and they're all pretty much moderate power to street level.

Quoted for agreement.
I mean, I LOVE Cyborg, he was one of my youth idols back in the Wolfman/Perez day but as cool as the character was, he was just a man with prosthetic limbs.

fifthfiend
10-25-2006, 10:06 AM
The Big Bang theory assumes an original concentration of energy. Where did this energy come from? Astronomers sometimes speak of origin from a "quantum mechanical fluctuation within a vacuum." However, an energy source is still needed. Actually, there is no secular origin theory, since every idea is based on preexisting matter or energy.

And there is no religious origin theory, because religion isn't theory, it's superstition and make-believe.:up:

... Some people would say this is extra specially pointless, given it's a response to a year+ old post.

But some people aren't me.

sinewave
10-25-2006, 10:09 AM
Is that a challenge? :D :D

sure! have at it, dude!

Kitsune
10-25-2006, 10:33 AM
I love the way he hangs onto his Atheism in IC? His explinations for Angels and ghost and all sorts of evidance of the afterlife sound so much like a Fundamentalist trying to discount evidence for the evolution.

fifthfiend
10-25-2006, 10:50 AM
I love the way he hangs onto his Atheism in IC? His explinations for Angels and ghost and all sorts of evidance of the afterlife sound so much like a Fundamentalist trying to discount evidence for the evolution.

http://www.shortpacked.com/comics/20060804atheist.png

Hee.