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deDIKnight
09-02-2005, 07:08 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/Paulwithoutshadeslookinpainedandang.jpg
Hi I'm Paul 'Deadeye' Knight

But Dedi or Deadeye are fine too,

A good few years ago I was all set on a comicbook artist career, when my sight gave out on me, due to a genetic birth defect, and i was struck blind for nearly a decade

Getting my sight back in only one eye now - i want to make up for lost time and resume my comicbook career - but as a Writer

I'm still not a bad artist - but i'm old and slow and I just cant compete with you young guns out there, who are better and faster at what you do

Anyway without further ado - here is my new comic book and its FIRST character series


http://www.encomixprod.com/art/deDIsketch.jpg



http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/DeadeyeSamuraiWebsite.jpg

This is a great drawing by my good friend and wonderful artist Kal-El - Ron Miranda

Please check out Kal's Thread if you havent already

This is going to be My flagship character for the new comics I'm setting up both in limited run "real world " from and in webcomic from

Lol

Well thats the plan anyway

Cos I'm disabled (sight problems hence the screenname), a recovering artist, Writer and model maker - I am spreading myself too thin and its effecting my health - as i'm putting in every hour nearly that God sends me

I aint no spring chicken no more

So Please do versions of this character in whatever medium you please - CGI, photomanip or classic comicstrip



I also want to know if anyone would like to draw, co-write, ink or colour the book as well



This is one of many other comic projects that are coming up

I dont care if you are the best artist in the world (tho that would be nice) as long as you love comics and would like to help out

Post your fanart of this character doing different stuff



His swords are Katana/ninjato like and composed from pure light and can turn into ANY martial arts weapon - so be creative


So they have to be the brightest things about the character as he is surrounded by a corona of red sunlight energy like the GL Corps glow (but Red)


I dont just want to see swords - longbows, naginatas, nunchuks, bo staffs etc can be done too

i'd also like to see a multi figure combat scene -

again be creative with what he is fighting -

Common streetpunks and gangsters to supernatural demons or aliens



He also has a redsun jewel in the middle of his forehead - How he "sees" as the sunburst energy burnt off all his hair and blinded him
hence his name

The concept of the character has elements of GL, Ghostrider, Daredevil and EleKtra

And I'm writing the prologue just now and will post it here first

Heres the Overview/Synopsis for issue one






This is a project all the great talent on the board can get involved in - even if its just one page of pinup art or a sequential piece of storytelling

Thanks again for looking:) :up:


Paul 'deadeye' Knight

deDIKnight
09-02-2005, 07:16 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/deadeyesamuari02.jpg

This is a quick pencils sketch posted by Smoke87

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/spideyfreak08/deadeyesamurai2.jpg

Smoke87s pencils sketch base coloured by Spiderfan08 -

theres still red lightsaber razzmatazz to be worked upon it

deDIKnight
09-02-2005, 07:33 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/deadeyesamurai01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/deadeyesamurai03.jpg
http://203.97.5.87/staff/joel/deadeyesamurai03.jpg

Pencil Sketchs again by my man Smoke87 (Please visit his thread also) -

Last one corrected by CyberMonkeytron

Great work and thanks fellas

Need some comabat scenes tho - (((((Hint hint))))):) :up:

heres who he'll be fighting over 300 years - mortal enemy - the ONI

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/BDOONI1.jpg

Some quick concept PC work (as I cant draw small outside a PC dude to my sight) for Japanese Oni Demons - tall, skinny, silver haired white faced demons are the generals - while the ogre or troll like ones are the foot soldiers

They should be armed with all matter of weponry from huge twisted warblade like katanas to gigantic iron clubs called Tetsubo all these weapons are cursed by dark magic

This stuff is by Big Dirty Ogre and Myself taken from an ink concept drawing by BDO

deDIKnight
09-02-2005, 08:47 AM
http://www.castlereshka.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=8195&stc=1

BDO's Original concept sketch:) :up:

deDIKnight
09-02-2005, 08:50 AM
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a103/papakeelo/Deadeye.jpg

This is a sketch I got over PM from Nosebleed

It looks great so far and he calls this messy - it shows a a great sense of motion and battle readiness for the opening strike:) :up:

triem23
09-02-2005, 11:06 PM
Deadeye sent me this smoke87 pencil to color, so here it is:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/triem23/Triemcolordeadeyesamurai03.jpg

Whoever did the original design did a nice costume: I guess Kal-El did the original desing.

Just a note--I darkened up the wrist wraps as well, because I felt it added a little bit of POP to the forearms, and some glow on the center of his chest because it looked like the jewel on the forhead, and, to me, I can't think of another reason why there's a big, blank circle in the center of the chestpiece.

Again, this is a great character design, and I'll do a few sketches myself when I get a chance.

deDIKnight
09-03-2005, 01:49 AM
WOW

That is a real nice piece of coloring triem -

Good to have you aboard my man - sure you wont be disappointed in the designs we got coming up also

As for deadeye samurais design?

Its a cross between Kal-El and I designing it - my original concept - his superb skills and patience

I'll post the original concept stages between Kal, Myself and another friend - Kazuya

Originally he had hair but since hes caught in a heatblast explosion - giving him his powers - he has no hair left and has been struck blind

The crystal shard piercing his forehead into his pineal allowing him to mystically "see" again, binding the entity in the crystal to his being

Though he can fight Just as well at night as well as thru the day - He has to charge his powers by facing the rising japanese Sun every so often - so has to make a pilgrimage to Japan and sit atop mount Fujiama

So in that respect he is like a GL a bit as well as his powers being light based

He calls himself a totally different name to deadeye samurai - Akai Taiyo - that is the name of the ancient entity that has possesed him - a Guardian Kami (shinto spirit)

Created to do one thing and one thing only - DESTROY EVIL

But the Newpapers give him the name of Deadeye samurai for obvious reasons - as is the case in comics:) :up:

deDIKnight
09-03-2005, 01:14 PM
http://www.encomixprod.com/art/deDIsketch.jpg

Kal-El's Early concept Sketch For Deadeye Samurai

Note the hair compared to the final piece

spiderfan08
09-03-2005, 01:15 PM
really cool. i like how it turned out too.

deDIKnight
09-03-2005, 01:32 PM
This is a concept Sketch from a good friend in Norway - Hyperion, of what the Kami spirit inside Deadeye Samurai could look like

A floating ball of red solar energy abstracted in the form of a giant grim samurai warrior

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/AkaiTaiyo2.jpg

Another good friend Daffyboy69 will do a few versions from this in different styles and poses and combat scenes


Could somebody please colour this?

I want it to be Incandescent red sunlight and abstracting the central figure who is made out of pure light too

Thank you:up:

Kal_EL
09-03-2005, 03:47 PM
Whoever did the original design did a nice costume: I guess Kal-El did the original desing.

Again, this is a great character design, and I'll do a few sketches myself when I get a chance.

Thanks Triem. DediKnight let me know what he had in mind and I tried my best at it. The colors were tricky but I got them. I'm just glad my good friend Dedi liked this pic.

nosebleed.
09-03-2005, 11:41 PM
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a103/papakeelo/dEDi.jpg

brad
09-04-2005, 06:49 AM
I have done a drawing of your Deadeye Samurai, and have started to color it. here is a preview I hope you like. I am doing it in a cartoon style color.

http://doomedculturegraphics.com/Pics2/Deadeye1.jpg

deDIKnight
09-04-2005, 07:01 AM
Great stuff from Nose bleed and Brad - Thanks alot dudes

If you guys would like to do anything in sequential fights scenes please do so

Single figures are great n all - but if anyone would even like to do a pinup fight scene we could work that in as a panel in a sequential layout - or as a splash intro

Nightwing: Endgame
09-04-2005, 07:41 AM
everything looks kickass bro, i cant wait to work with you on this...maybe at some point we can have Deadeye and Blue Inferno cross over...by the way hypsters...Blue Inferno is my City of Heroes character that i am turning into a comic book...heres a screenshot of him from the game...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/xxnightwingxx/screenshot_2005-09-03-20-51-44.jpg
let me know if anyone wants in on that too...

brad
09-04-2005, 08:02 AM
Here is the finished one.

Pencils
http://doomedculturegraphics.com/Pics2/Deadeye2.jpg

Colors
http://doomedculturegraphics.com/Pics2/Deadeye1.jpg

spiderfan08
09-04-2005, 08:06 AM
that is awesome brad

deDIKnight
09-04-2005, 08:11 AM
Great stuff Brad would u like to do anymore on the book?

sequentials or splash pages?
Pinups? Or covers?

Let me know man

That is a wonderful drawing - thanks buddy

brad
09-04-2005, 08:15 AM
You know if you need a pin up or splash page. This was a quick drawing and coloring job. I am pretty busy with putting some of the final touches on my book. However that being said I would happly make room for a small project. :up:

deDIKnight
09-04-2005, 08:20 AM
NIGHTWING


everything looks kickass bro, i cant wait to work with you on this...maybe at some point we can have Deadeye and Blue Inferno cross over...by the way hypsters...Blue Inferno is my City of Heroes character that i am turning into a comic book...heres a screenshot of him from the game...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/xxnightwingxx/screenshot_2005-09-03-20-51-44.jpg
let me know if anyone wants in on that too...
__________________

Buddy between you and me writing the Deadeye Samurai stories and blocking out fightscenes with each other - this project will be at least two issues finished hopefully years end

And if you give me a hand with this, I repay help with help in return

COUNT ME IN ON BLUE INFERNO

Cos I'm disabled - I got plenty of time to commit to the projects, a good creative mind and a reasonable amount of artistic talent

I'm sure all of us working as one we'll get stuff done faster

Theres strength in numbers:cool: :up:

spiderfan08
09-04-2005, 08:24 AM
here you go dedi


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/spideyfreak08/glowingfigure1.jpg

deDIKnight
09-04-2005, 08:25 AM
BRAD

You know if you need a pin up or splash page. This was a quick drawing and coloring job. I am pretty busy with putting some of the final touches on my book. However that being said I would happly make room for a small project. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif



Brad what can I say, ANY artistic involvement from you will be of course GREATLY appreciated

And thanks to Nosebleed also who PMed and said he'd like to commit to the book and do sequentials

You guys tell me if you just want to do pencils or full work - Brad from what you just said - you might like to tackle everything yourself

Cool man thanks a lot:up: :cool: :up:

brad
09-04-2005, 08:27 AM
Hey deDIKnight, just send me any daetals on an enemy he fights to my email.
You can get it from my Website link in my Sig.

deDIKnight
09-04-2005, 08:32 AM
SPIDERFAN08

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/spideyfreak08/glowingfigure1.jpg



Hhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gifLY Mhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gifLEY!!!! Spider that is wonderful and FAST work from a guy your age - you work hard at school - get to artschool and ANY comic company would be insane not to hire you as a colorist

DAMN lil guy thats incredible http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif GRhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gifVYhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

deDIKnight
09-04-2005, 08:37 AM
BRADHey deDIKnight, just send me any daetals on an enemy he fights to my email.
You can get it from my Website link in my Sig.
__________________
I calculated the odds of this succeeding against the odds that I was doing something incredibility stupid, and went a head and did it anyways.

Brad M.
Doomed Culture Graphics (http://www.doomedculturegraphics.com/)


Man - you got it bro:cool: :up: - thanks again

Thats very cool of you Brad - the enemies for the first issue are on this page

The Oni & DaiOni - machinations of the japanese "Satan" character Amatsu-mikaboshi

I'll put together more details on them this week


we need more images of them from you talented dudes out there

Hyperion_Prime
09-04-2005, 09:56 AM
Hey Dedi!

Well, I finally hooked up here. Lots of cool pictures of your character too :)

Love what you and your guys did with the Samurai Spirit! :up:

Maxwinner
09-04-2005, 01:44 PM
I did sum colorin'....



http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2369/dediknight1ou.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

deDIKnight
09-04-2005, 02:00 PM
HYPERION PRIME
Hey Dedi!

Well, I finally hooked up here. Lots of cool pictures of your character too http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

Love what you and your guys did with the Samurai Spirit! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif



Hey Thor!!!

Lol

How you doing man? welcome to my thread - well you drew the line drawing that made it possible for such a clean image to colour man

Thanks for your input and continued interest in this project


And MAX WINNER

MaxwinnerI did sum colorin'....



http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2369/dediknight1ou.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)


Wow


You done justice to Mrs Rs sketch, real nice colouring - :)

I especially like the heat shimmer on the "blade":up:

but the jewel on the head should shine like the chest one

Maxwinner
09-04-2005, 02:38 PM
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6496/dediknight7gi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

deDIKnight
09-04-2005, 02:48 PM
better

great colouring anyway bro:up:

deDIKnight
09-04-2005, 04:10 PM
Heres an update of the Spirit Samurai graphic

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/9972/akaitaiyo0tc.jpg

deDIKnight
09-05-2005, 01:21 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/deadeyefight01.jpg


The FIRST Deadeye Samurai fight scene - Very Nice work Smoke

But there wont be so much blood as the swords are made from burning sunlight - so they'll act like lightsabers

watch the foreshortening and perspective on these - but great work

if you need help with poses - both the wife and I are Martial Artists

We can provide you pose photos or line illustrations from our photos to flesh out and add to
AND STAY IN CONTACT - PM or IM - I instruct a lot of beginning artists on this board in drawing, manipping etc - Spiderfan08 is one of my best students and he's 15!!!! Look at the standard of his work now

its one of the ways where i can help you with the Foreshortening/perspective


Keep up the great work on these bro:up: GR:) :)VY :up:

And try some variation on the weapons - as he can will them to turn into ANY martial arts weapon - or increase blood size etc

Have fun:) :up:

NDX
09-05-2005, 02:54 AM
I said I draw one for ya dedi and here it is

http://gallery.bezerker.org/The-Art-Goes-Here/Deadeye_Samurai_Small

I know the figure is pretty much ****ed. And the inkings offered by my pens just didn't come out as hoped. But it was a fun draw.

Comments welcomed and encouraged.

And please check out the other crap in my art page.

Nex

deDIKnight
09-05-2005, 07:19 AM
You aint crap man - not by a longshot

Theres a Nice sense of motion and dynamicism -

the one thing you maybe did wrong is his face looks a bit like Kevin Spacey or Gene hackman as Lex Luthor - so a bit jowlly there with the chin

oh yeah lol - sorry in advance for this.....

But the redsun jewel?

It looks like a small bun stuck on his head at a funny angle instead of a jewel set in his forehead just above his eyes

Still a good, quick drawing, from a good friend:) :up:

I appreciate that man - thank you

Ultimate Movie-Man
09-05-2005, 07:53 AM
Hey is it okay for my short story with Deadeye that I make up a villian?

Maxwinner
09-05-2005, 10:13 AM
Sum more Colorin'



http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/591/deadeyefight01gfjujhy8wa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Silver Sable
09-05-2005, 10:53 AM
Awesome artwork Knight! Keep it up!

deDIKnight
09-05-2005, 11:05 AM
Thanks sable - All these guys just make me look good:)

Max - REAL Nice colouring job my man, but a bit dark for these old peepers

Maybe slightly lighter background may have shown the ninjas up better - but love the motion blur on the swords

I see you toned down the blood which is good but these swords are Hot and Cauterise -

So when its passing thru a body that area will be glowing orangey burning ash

Kinda like killing a Vampire in the Blade movies

But the motion blur and the light highlights on his armour

Damn good job:) :up:

Even hides smokes perspective issue on the far away arm

Could you do a glowing arc from the sword so you see the path of the blade?

check my avatar for what I mean

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/591/deadeyefight01gfjujhy8wa.jpg


Keep in Contact with me MAX by IM or PM to gimme updates please

I'm on AIM - dediblindeyejedi

I'm on Yahoo - deadeye_blindswordsman2000


Spiderfan08 and Triem23 - i still like to know how your interpretation will look in coloring the original B&W

Theres also NDX's one to colour too:) :up:

deDIKnight
09-05-2005, 11:09 AM
Movie-man2000

Hey is it okay for my short story with Deadeye that I make up a villian?

Course it is - I'd love that:) :up:

Keep in Contact with me by IM or PM to gimme updates please

I'm on AIM - dediblindeyejedi

I'm on Yahoo - deadeye_blindswordsman2000

Maxwinner
09-05-2005, 11:46 AM
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2577/deadeyesamuraismall9ny.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Maxwinner
09-05-2005, 12:04 PM
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/7352/deadeyefight01gfjujhyfd2al.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

deDIKnight
09-05-2005, 02:42 PM
you just keep on amazing me with yer meaty coloring goodness Max

Thanks man - Great work

Valorman
09-05-2005, 02:51 PM
wow.awesome work all around,especialy big ups to brad.great work


its great that this character seems to be gaining interest by outsiders,that just goes to show that on the market it would have great success.

lets all hope and pray that sept 14th means ill be getting my wacom tablet.or at least a scanner,who knows maybe you might see some of my contributions in the near future :D

deDIKnight
09-05-2005, 03:03 PM
lookin forward to it my fellow canuck,

Good luck on your project too Val

Maxwinner
09-05-2005, 03:57 PM
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2893/deadeyedfhrth3nc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

deDIKnight
09-05-2005, 04:34 PM
VEEEEERY Noice!!!!!:)

deDIKnight
09-05-2005, 04:47 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/deadeyesamuari02.jpg

Do this one next max please - and remove that dagger from his face and hand please;)

Big Dirty Ogre
09-05-2005, 05:21 PM
Sketched out a raggedy version of Deadeye, just for kicks.
Maybe someone could polish it up, and add weapons?



Maxwinner, your coloring is ****ing awesome!!!


http://www.castlereshka.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=8205&stc=1

Maxwinner
09-05-2005, 05:37 PM
This was a pretty fast one (30 minutes) Tired.. gotta go to bed and sleeeeeeeeeep...

http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/2075/deadeyesamuari02sfhdyj2ar.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Big Dirty Ogre
09-05-2005, 05:49 PM
another great coloring job, man. Dedi is gonna love it.

Silver Sable
09-05-2005, 08:32 PM
I wish I knew how to draw like you Knight :(

Jack Rabbit
09-05-2005, 08:35 PM
Deadi, I'm working on a Deadeye Samurai picture, dod you mind if I alter the costume...? It's not that I don't like it, buty I'm havin' fun just playing with different designs for him...

NDX
09-05-2005, 10:53 PM
My logo looks weird glowing red.

Very nice coloring Max. You fixed the problem with the jewel I drew on his forehead (which looked more like a turd in my lineart). And I like the glow you hooked up for the first blade, but you left the second blade black.

Nex

lionhart
09-05-2005, 11:53 PM
Before I contribute to your character, I'd like to see some of your previous work. Maybe I can do it in your style.

deDIKnight
09-06-2005, 12:05 AM
Big Dirty ogre - Great seeing your art here too cajun - I think you dark inks and chunky ripped bodied characters rock:) :up:

Silver Sable - Thanks M, but plenty here better than I





Jack Rabbit
Deadi, I'm working on a Deadeye Samurai picture, dod you mind if I alter the costume...? It's not that I don't like it, buty I'm havin' fun just playing with different designs for him...-


No Thats okay - I trust your ability man

Feel free to mess around with the costume - but how he is just now is what he will look like for the first 12 issues

After that - I might use your costume if I dig the look too

Go right ahead bro




Lionhart

Before I contribute to your character, I'd like to see some of your previous work. Maybe I can do it in your style.


- You mean before I went blind or now?

Check my PENANCE character on "deadeyes Amalgam Comicbook Challege"
My Fanart for Silver Sable on her "Do any of you do Fanart requests" thread
My Beast on Crimson Dynamos "Draw Beast challenge"

Thats what I draw like these days - painting/manip

Before I went blind - I drew like a cross between Paul Gulacy and Killian
Plunket - its coming back slowly but surely but I'll probably never get that cleanlines look back

Max Winner - BDOs right - I love it - Another amazingly great Job :) :up: - you keep doing them - I'll keep praising them
That last one the Nunchuks batons seemed a bit small - but i'll fix that
Thanks again buddy

lionhart
09-06-2005, 12:12 AM
Before you went blind, if you can, please post some examples.


The Penance really seems like a rehash of The Angel Punisher deal which everyone tries to forget.

:(

deDIKnight
09-06-2005, 12:29 AM
Whoa - way to put the hate on PENANCE there Lionhart - bit presumptious

I can write better than that

I'm on my last draft - I need an artpack - you interested?

But I'm realistic about the Industry and things fall thru all the time

If Marvel doesnt Pick it up - I'm changing the design away from GR/Punisher and turning it into one of my own comics - still a great name, concept and a great hellfire vengeance character


Okay -- hope that satisfied your curiosity bro

I showed u my past stuff

Those are my pencils that I colored recently - Like I said i used to draw like a cross between Killian Plunkett and Paul Gulacy

But not as good as either I guess, and definitely not anymore

I challenge any artist here to go thru what I went thru and still keep the faith, and a certain degree of ability

Jeez even my check signing signature has changed - I got to go thru 20 questions just to get cash change cos my sig doent match the sig on my bankcard

Hope you appreciate Lionhart, how much this frustrates me that i cant draw like this no more




I'd rather look forward than look back man - so if you want more samples - youre out of luck - I sold most of my stuff to pay for my eye ops

This scene was composed from pencil sketches of Models that I made -
I usually blocked out a scene with 12" models - but since I dont have a camera no more (that got sold too) I cant show you my models either:(

lionhart
09-06-2005, 12:39 AM
That wasn't hate. In fact it was far from it. Just seemed similar to me, and as a Punisher fan I'm sure that Marvel would see something similar. Marvel seems fairly protective of Frank now, especially with the movie franchise and Ennis being on the title for about 5 years. I never said it would suck so you seem a bit presumptious on that. I'm glad you're realistic and am thoroughly looking forward to examples of your Dark Horse work.

What title and issue is that from?

deDIKnight
09-06-2005, 12:44 AM
I never got to be on the Darkhorse books, I went blind before I could really start
The aboves a sample from the sketches and rough sequentials i put together for the portfolio

I also wrote that scene - its a "missing scene" from Empire Strikes Back I thought would be funny to write and draw

So this deal at Marvel is my second bite at the big time - hope it comes off

wish me luck

lionhart
09-06-2005, 12:47 AM
What were you scheduled to start on? And what brand of Marvel are you being told that Penance would fit on?

deDIKnight
09-06-2005, 12:53 AM
Would you like to keep the past to IM or PM? We're going off topic

I'm pitching Penance to cash in on the Ghostrider Buzz next year - Its good mrketing sense - its a "Oneshot" deal

if it gets optioned for a longer series after that - Its all gravy

but I'm writing it as a one-off sorta "What if" kinda feel to it

lionhart
09-06-2005, 12:57 AM
If you feel that it requires further discussion feel free to IM me.

deDIKnight
09-06-2005, 01:05 AM
I'll be glad to IM you sometime and tell you the long and unlucky past of deadeye - how I feel cursed - and how NOW means more to me than the past

So Please - Since I shown my stuff - I'd very much like to see you draw something for the Thread here

I love your artwork

Your Deadpool one last months contest was one of my favourites

And I'd love you to post that in my ADAMANTIUM SANCTUM thread please - along with any other Weapon X characters you done

lionhart
09-06-2005, 01:14 AM
Well I'd love to draw something for this thread, but I would've liked to do it in your original style. I just cannot get the 'feel' from it from that one example. Thanks for the comment on the Deadpool piece, needless to say that I had high hopes for it, but I guess that doesn't matter now.
I'm currently working on this month's contest, t shirt designs for my brother's soccer team (he's a coach), and also working on a story which will take a horrendous amount of my time. So I'm currently unsure just how much I can contribute to your Adamantium Sanctum, which I'm sure you understand.

deDIKnight
09-06-2005, 01:31 AM
Erm I thought I was being clear when I said to just post your Deadpool you already done in ADAMNTIUM SANCTUM

Saves you work bro

As for doing it in my style - I dont see the point of that - when i think your style is so much better

Since you handle "ninja-like" characters so well like Deadpool - Deadeye Samurai isnt that far off

Theres plenty of reference here for the costume my man - sure you'll do fine

Even change the damn costume if you want

Jack Rabbit is - i can have him wearing different suits in the comic bro

Try one out please

triem23
09-06-2005, 01:50 AM
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/591/deadeyefight01gfjujhy8wa.jpg


Spiderfan08 and Triem23 - i still like to know how your interpretation will look in coloring the original B&W

Theres also NDX's one to colour too:) :up:

AH, my friend, I'm in New York on vacation this week, and I didn't bring my tablet with me (I didn't have room in my luggage), so no coloring from me until this weekend... I DID bring my sketchbook, tho, and I have some layouts going for what's looking like a 2 page "flashback" sequence. DeadEYE, it's almost 3am for me, and I've been up for almost 36 hours, so I'll write you tomorrow with some questions about backstory/character and origin. In the meantime I tease you with the first draft of what the text for the flashback is... (Each line is caption)

"The shard is more than the source of his power...

..it is a REMINDER.

Of a life once lived.

Of a woman once loved.

Of service once given.

Before that day when it was taken from him...

...and who was responsible.

It is a REMINDER.

Of a moment of ultimate pain, never far from his mind.

Of the moment when he was cursed...

...and blessed...

...with the gifts to make the one responsible...

...and his servents...

...pay with their LIVES.

It is more than Vengance.

More than Justice.

It is Honor."

(Again, first draft, and this may change after I talk with ya, DeadEYE. Still *hands you some tissue.*)

triem23
09-06-2005, 01:57 AM
To other artists who have colored the Deadeye Samurai...

Oh, yeah, I still feel that the forearm wraps should be colored in the same dark grey as the blindfold/abdomen... I think it "pops" the arms a bit and gives better contrast with the glowof the weapons he manifests. Part of that is that I tend to build glows in layer in photoshop using "screen" blending mode, and you can't brighten white.

I also use an 80% grey as the base color for the bright parts of the costume for the same reason...so I have some room for highlighting, take a look here, and you'll see what I mean.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/triem23/Triemcolordeadeyesamurai03.jpg

Otherwise, I've seen some great lineart and coloring in this thread... I think we're all agreed that this is a great character--it's up there with Bill 9K's Crusader, and my siggy makes it clear how cool I think that is.

NDX
09-06-2005, 01:58 AM
AH, my friend, I'm in New York on vacation this week, ...

Enjoy my neck of the woods.

If you listen to heavy metal or hardcore music, look into the Continental in Manhattan or Redzone in Queens. Unfortunately, I don't know of any other venues. Lost track once Castle Heights closed.

I have to say, the image that BDO came up with looks really good. The muscle structure is really defined. And the face/mask came out great. Makes me want to get to class and draw.

_____

Nex

Big Dirty Ogre
09-06-2005, 02:11 AM
I have to say, the image that BDO came up with looks really good. The muscle structure is really defined. And the face/mask came out great. Makes me want to get to class and draw.

_____

Nex


Thanks, man!!!!

Dedi is the only guy who seems to have much respect for my style, lately.

I like my characters substantial, and harshly drawn. I works well for some types of characters, but it's a weakness for overall versatility, i'll admit.

Laymen seem to think my **** is great, but other artists are usually dismissive about it.


Your pic is awesome, too. I ain't just returning the compliment to be polite. :up:

Smoke87
09-06-2005, 02:31 AM
wow, some of these coloring jobs make my sketches look a lot better than they actually are. Great job guys:up:

Anyway, here is another sketch, used a different weapon. Let me know what to fix and stuff. Thanks again

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/deadeyesamurai04.jpg

I'll be working on another fight scene soon dedi.

Ultimate Movie-Man
09-06-2005, 02:32 AM
WOW! That's excellent!

Big Dirty Ogre
09-06-2005, 02:43 AM
wow, some of these coloring jobs make my sketches look a lot better than they actually are. Great job guys:up:

Anyway, here is another sketch, used a different weapon. Let me know what to fix and stuff. Thanks again

I'll be working on another fight scene soon dedi.

this one is pretty great, actually. the only thing i can see is that the left leg looks a little off in it's postioning. it's much better than anything i can do, though. i love the perspective.

deDIKnight
09-06-2005, 04:04 AM
PC done screwed up again - wish i had a good paying job like a Medical Doctor or something that I could get techware together to improve things about this book

Hell I'd settle for the PC basically just to running properly

This Goddamn PC is on its last legs and as i'm stupidly paying it up - Its double the cost a new PC these days would be still got £720 to pay on it

And if it wasnt for the fact I'm stil paying medical treatments on my face and eyes and other damn debt....

"I'd break this Rusty Cage and Run" (paraphrased) as SoundGarden once sang

Lol

Great work to Kal-El,BDO, Smoke87, Triem23, MAx Winner, Spiderfan08, Brad, NDX, Nosebleed, Hyperion and all the others that have been or will be contributing to this thread

BIG gold stars in my Cool Book the lot of you

And Movieman2000, BDO, Triem23 and Nightwing for storyline input

Youre a Great bunch of guys - My band of brothers:up: :p :up: whasssssuuuup!

deDIKnight
09-06-2005, 04:24 AM
Triem23

AH, my friend, I'm in New York on vacation this week, and I didn't bring my tablet with me (I didn't have room in my luggage), so no coloring from me until this weekend... I DID bring my sketchbook, tho, and I have some layouts going for what's looking like a 2 page "flashback" sequence. DeadEYE, it's almost 3am for me, and I've been up for almost 36 hours, so I'll write you tomorrow with some questions about backstory/character and origin. In the meantime I tease you with the first draft of what the text for the flashback is... (Each line is caption)

"The shard is more than the source of his power...

..it is a REMINDER.

Of a life once lived.

Of a woman once loved.

Of service once given.

Before that day when it was taken from him...

...and who was responsible.

It is a REMINDER.

Of a moment of ultimate pain, never far from his mind.

Of the moment when he was cursed...

...and blessed...

...with the gifts to make the one responsible...

...and his servents...

...pay with their LIVES.

It is more than Vengance.

More than Justice.

It is Honor."

(Again, first draft, and this may change after I talk with ya, DeadEYE. Still *hands you some tissue.*)

WELL thats definitely along the lines of how i feel about the character and various story elements and yeah i'll definitely use that in the book

Deadeye Samurai's credo is

"My death is but a feather in the wind, in the shade of my duty which is mountain"



Wuz gonna keep it as a surprise - but the current "Deadeye Samurai" wasnt the first one - theres been at least one more DS, back in the past, at least at this stage of writing

But hell - continuity is famous for being rewritten and as long it doesnt screw up with the set up in the future incarnation (2025) SAM URI YASHIDA

Anything can and should happen in my bookhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

But glad we are on the same wavelength Triem23http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif



http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/triem23/Triemcolordeadeyesamurai03.jpg

Otherwise, I've seen some great lineart and coloring in this thread... I think we're all agreed that this is a great character--it's up there with Bill 9K's Crusader, and my siggy makes it clear how cool I think that is.
__________________



As for comparing My Deadeye Samurai character to Bill9000s Crusader - Whttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif W - what a compliment

That has got to be One of the nicest thing anyones said about the character - seriously I'm chuffed to hell about that

Maybe you could be "IN THE KINGDOM OF THE BLIND THE ONE EYED MAN IS KING" in your sig too to show your obvious respect for my character?
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif


but really.....

I am but a feather in the wind, in the shade of Bill9000 the Mountain

I'm Just a humble deadeye knighthttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Maxwinner
09-06-2005, 04:25 AM
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/7571/deadeyesamurai04rffh0yh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

deDIKnight
09-06-2005, 04:43 AM
Damn that was fast Max - again man fantastic work

I was gonna write praise to Smoke and ask if any colorists in 818 can colour that
and like wally west man your here with the goods

ARE U HUMAN? Amazing


But I DO like Triems darker costume take also

Cant wait to see his n' others interpretations also

But Max youre good and fast - respect


As BDO says - Its all gravy - and guys - I'm getting the bread to lap it all up

Respect to y'all:up: :up: :up:

pimpernel
09-06-2005, 04:52 AM
this one is pretty great, actually. the only thing i can see is that the left leg looks a little off in it's postioning. it's much better than anything i can do, though. i love the perspective.

Dude... is that Slaine in your avatar?

NDX
09-06-2005, 05:08 AM
Your pic is awesome, too. I ain't just returning the compliment to be polite. :up:

Yeah, sure you're not.

Thanks man, appreciate that. I don't really hear that from people I haven't know for 3 years often enough.

Ultimate Movie-Man
09-06-2005, 05:23 AM
Hey Dedi, want me to do this story then?

deDIKnight
09-06-2005, 05:49 AM
Yup - but i'll have to rewrite it with you over IM - I can tell you EXACTLY what my take on your story is and how i can incoporate it

Sent you a PM back

And Pimpernel
Welcome to my thread - hope you like what you see - its coming together nicely

That aint Slaine - I was a big 2000AD fan - and that guy in BDOs avvy would hand Slaine Macroth his ass

Thats Wolverine - BDO and I are part of the Adamantiums
See our sigs

-Æ-
09-06-2005, 08:47 AM
I Think im going to give this a shot, I really like what yall are doing here.

Nightwing: Endgame
09-06-2005, 09:15 AM
wow guys sweet artwork...deadeye and i are working together on our books...if any of u artists wants to do some sketches or artowrk for Blue...post it here.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197218

deDIKnight
09-06-2005, 02:45 PM
Very. very, very rough manip to block out a fight scene - if any of you want to take a crack at drawing this better

or your own fight scene

please i need combat pics

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/DeadeyeSamurai4wayattack.jpg

Big Dirty Ogre
09-06-2005, 02:47 PM
ill work on this tonight.

deDIKnight
09-06-2005, 03:04 PM
good man

Just DONT throw it away if you F'up a bit

Whatevers broke - i can fix on PC

TRUST ME

Maxwinner
09-06-2005, 03:55 PM
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1083/1jhhjdf2qz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

0neDisturbedSOB
09-06-2005, 03:59 PM
Here is the finished one.

Pencils
http://doomedculturegraphics.com/Pics2/Deadeye2.jpg

Colors
http://doomedculturegraphics.com/Pics2/Deadeye1.jpg

Oh man that is f**king sweet!

Son Of Logan
09-06-2005, 04:04 PM
Oh, so this is where everyone has been hanging out. Great freakin' artwork!!! I wish I could still draw.

0neDisturbedSOB
09-06-2005, 04:10 PM
How can you not?

Big Dirty Ogre
09-06-2005, 04:14 PM
Maxwinner, that is freakin awesome!!!!! Interesting how his scars and nipples glow. Lol.
I'd have stopped at the scars, and left the nipples normal. Your coloring is top notch!!

triem23
09-06-2005, 05:27 PM
BDO, I like your linework, too--it's got a style somewhere in between "current" comic art and a 15th century woodcut. It's very unique.

And if some people don't get it--oh, well... Show them some Keith Giffen art from 1994 and watch thier eyes explode--works for me.

deDIKnight
09-06-2005, 05:28 PM
great stuff max

Smoke87
09-06-2005, 06:53 PM
hello agian :)

Here is another sketch. Kind of a fight scene I guess. Anyway, let know what I could work on. I know the guy head of the guy getting kicked is messed up, but it was aggrivating me too much so I just left it. Here it is

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/deadeyefight002.jpg

spiderfan08
09-06-2005, 08:12 PM
once my computer is fixed i will do some major coloring for you guys. sorry again i have to "be away" for awhile.

deDIKnight
09-07-2005, 01:12 AM
Spiderfan08 - your continued interest and coloring skills are above reproach

dont worry about it dude - aint your fault - just sorry goddamn yahoo mussed with yer PC - I feel guilty about that

But there aint any reason why it should have


Triem - totally agree - BDO's art is singular and bold - as you say like a 15th century woodcut mixed with modern graphic art
Its like old etchings - and i really want the guy to have more confidence in his ability - his style is perfect for the early antiquity of the original Deadeye Samurai Era
His work also reminds me a bit of Maurice Sendak - the guy that illustrated "Where The Wild Things Are"


Smoke87 - AWESOME ACTION SCENE - dude - keep em coming need more of those for the book


Hope Max winner, Triem or spiderfan colours it soon

nosebleed.
09-07-2005, 01:14 AM
Hey Dedi, I'll work on a battle scene when I get a chance...work has got me kinda stressed lately. But I really want to work on one because I haven't done a battle scene in quite a while.

deDIKnight
09-07-2005, 03:00 AM
Cool man - did you see the one I already blocked out?


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/DeadeyeSamurai4wayattack.jpg


Have a crack at that - is very ruff - but since I'm rewriting this story i'm stuck AND HAVE to concentrate on that for large chunks

triem23
09-07-2005, 03:32 AM
SMoke, the only problem with the last fight scene you drew is the length of the neck on the guy getting kicked---remember the pivot point on the neck in the bas of the skull, so if his head is shifted that far back it's going to shorten the appearant length of the neck--otherwise, that's a sweet drawing.

NDX
09-07-2005, 03:39 AM
Dedi, do you have any specifics for a fight scene or just go at it? I might find a handfull of minutes to sketch something out in the coming days.
________

EDIT:

I forgot, I drew this while ignoring my lecturer, I mean taking detailed notes, in class today:
http://gallery.bezerker.org/albums/The-Art-Goes-Here/Sep07_01_2_Small_CRed.jpg

This was done directly in pen in the back of my notebook. I know the proprtions are ****ed (again, and I want to teach art? I must be crazy) and the head is slanted (was I drunk whan I drew this???) but I am quite proud of it.

I had made it a habit to draw directly in pen for so long in my life I thought I forgot what to do because this summer near all of my art was sketched out beforehand and inked afterwards. After this image, I feel much better knowing I can still just grab a pen and pound out an image or two without much planning.

Note: Please don't color this. I rather leave the image like this.

Again. shameless plug for my art page in the addy in the picture. I'll stop this once I earn a signature.

Nex

deDIKnight
09-07-2005, 04:47 AM
Liking that NDX - Thats looking good man

No specifics for a fight scene other than try and use more weapons than just Nunchucks and Katana swords

Try a few panels like him Cloaked, appearing kicking and slashing, throwing light based shuriken, using a longbow to pick off distance targets, using a bo staff for nonlethal combatetc

Even without his powers - Sam Yashida is a highly competent martial artist in archery, kendo, Jujitsu and Aikido

He comes from a long line of noble Samurai ancestors - but these days he is an archaeologist professor and antiques dealer - including ancient weapons

Theres several huge LOTR style battles in this than can be stylised in silhouttes for bacground combatants concentrating on foreground action

Smoke87
09-07-2005, 04:53 AM
SMoke, the only problem with the last fight scene you drew is the length of the neck on the guy getting kicked---remember the pivot point on the neck in the bas of the skull, so if his head is shifted that far back it's going to shorten the appearant length of the neck--otherwise, that's a sweet drawing.

thanks, I know what you mean. I has been bothering me since I finished it.
Here, I tried to fix it a little, but it still doesn't look right to me. Maybe I'll put more effort into fixing it later,(or just screw it and draw a completly different scene) Thanks again for the suggestions:up:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/deadeyefight002-2.jpg

NDX
09-07-2005, 05:06 AM
I think the problem with the image Smoke is with the perspective of the head in the image. It looks like the neck (in the previous image as well) is coming out of the back of the skull rather than under it. I think it is because the back of the ninja is too stiff and straight to have a head to that.

I've been kicked in the face a few times and know my head never reached that angle unless I was laying on the ground. Goddamned steel toed boots.

deDIKnight
09-07-2005, 05:11 AM
The head - I think everyone is getting hung up on too much
Anatomy lessons aside

Smoke - Just sever the Goddamn head from the body

Kick the guys head off - make him a Cadaver /zombie mummy etc - problem solved:)

Then have the head fly back and attack him

theres a species of Vampiric undead in Jap folklore called RokoroKubi (sp?) - they can detach their heads and attack independently

You can see an example of this if you look at the Mignola comicbook strips drawn for the Hellboy DVD

deDIKnight
09-07-2005, 08:06 AM
Okay here is the ROUGH overview - subject to rewriting - which I'm doing just now with the involvement of Big Dirty Ogre, Movie-man2000 and Triem23


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/DeadeyeSamuraisynopsis12.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/DeadeyeSamuraisynopsis3.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/DeadeyeSamuraisynopsis4.jpg

brad
09-07-2005, 08:20 AM
Sounds very cool, I like it.

deDIKnight
09-07-2005, 08:52 AM
Thanks Brad, buddy

What do you want me to consult on for yours?

RAMORE
09-07-2005, 09:33 AM
neato

bane
09-07-2005, 09:36 AM
A quick speedpaint :)
Cool story but why don't you break it into comic book panels or something?


http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5871/deadeye0up.jpg

RAMORE
09-07-2005, 09:51 AM
Well bane you've done it again! You just come in here flaunting your skills like nothing:mad: Just Kidding wicked take on the samurai:up:

Son Of Logan
09-07-2005, 09:56 AM
If there is anything you should know about me, it's that I love the saga of the samurai. That story kicks major ass, Deadeye. It seems like a lot for a first issue though. Have you considered breaking it into an opening story arc?

deDIKnight
09-07-2005, 10:49 AM
Yep SOL

BDO and I have been discussed breakin it down further into a wider story arc over a couple of issues
And like I said if you read that post again -
that was the initial ROUGH overview to get you all aquainted with what i got a cookin in my noggin

YES BANE

OBVIOUSLY I SHALL break that treatment down into a comicstrip panel script - I said when i posted that it was subject to be rewritten

Both Triem and movieman2000 have ideas I want to incoporate into the story

I am going to make this as a Co-operative project for the whole board to become involved in if they want
But ultimately I retain creative control

YOU CAN WRITE? -You will get co-writers credit for your story input
YOU CAN DRAW? - You will get co-artist credit with inkers n colorers

Unless theres people that can do ALL the latter like yourself Bane.
However not everyone is a Wunderkind as you obviously are at 17:eek:

Some are great at pencils, others inks and colors
So its THE TEAM here - thats the mentality


I dunno how well you are aquainted with how some writers work Bane-
some just go straight to comic script
others like to plan it out before hand in a text story format

I like a bit of both as well as going straight into working in storyboards - as I can draw too (obviously not as well as you guys)

but I thought I would give you all an OVERVIEW of the ROUGH plot so far

Theres still the Bushido EDO period of Japan to be inserted between that time and I have to rewrite a way where again the samurai gets buried so that the archaeologist in the future finds the Caveman remains


The only way I can think of right now.... is if there is a confrontation Like the cataclysm in the past - where a chunk of the "primitive" Ds' Head jewel is chipped/broken off somehow

That piece is found centuries later in the EDO period of feudal Japan by a Samurai Ancestor of the future archaeologist Yashida

He may use it as a goodluck omen in his subsequent battle campaigns, the jewel fragment -maybe worn as a ring or medallion not being as strong as the larger version buried with the primitive DS

But still able to bestow superior fighting prowess to its user

This piece can become a family heirloom in the Yashida family passed on generationally until the future Archaeologist Sam Uri Yashida inherits it from his uncle

Its THIS MEDALLION that may act as a catalyst for the explosion that turns him into DEADEYE SAMURAI (2025)

This Ring/medallion may have a kinda LOTR intelligence, perhaps an Ulterior motive to unite with its larger piece

And thru predestinated circumstance guides Yashida to the buraial place of the original deadeye Samurai



THOUGHTS?

deDIKnight
09-07-2005, 11:43 AM
BANE - Grrrrrreat Piece of work BTW - very cool - I LOVE IT!!!

But his swords glow:)

LMAO - just getting you back for stating the obvious to me about script

Lol;)

Nah Youre cool bro

You fine with our colorers handling the sword glow, suit colors and other effects?

One of them is Roma - who made your Avatar:):up:

Son Of Logan
09-07-2005, 11:45 AM
I may be able to help with writing or at least suggesting plots and such.


What if when the crystal is chipped someone finds a piece and figures out how to manipulate it for an evil purpose?

deDIKnight
09-07-2005, 11:54 AM
Maybe more than one piece is chipped?

So you have two powerful samurai warlords good and evil?

See the primitive DS cuts himself in half (extreme seppukku style) so the body wont reconstitute and if the crystal is shattered the AKAI TAIYO spirit is unbound but trapped within the cave by the magical mirror so its dormant

I'll use the A-BOMB idea to dislodge the hex on the Barrow cave (Nothing except the pwer of the sun can dislodge this seal) but its the magical mirror that keeps the AKAI TAIYO in check - "the genie back inside his bottle" so to speak

Thoughts?

Whats your IM, SON OF LOGAN?

mongo44
09-07-2005, 12:02 PM
Great thread Deadeye! It’s great to be exposed to a new character and think of the infinite possibilities for such a new character. I have enjoyed creating new characters since I was 6. I think it would be fun to start a thread as well giving an idea and description of such a character and see how it would evolve as well under someone else’s design.

Son Of Logan
09-07-2005, 12:05 PM
Currently without one. :(

Perhaps with the spirit released it goes berzerk, overly sensative to good and evil, it's standards too high murdering the innocents as well as the guilty. The body inherent of the DS must recapture the spirit to reform the balance.


What are the main points, charactaristics which you want DS to reflect?

mongo44
09-07-2005, 12:10 PM
I may be able to help with writing or at least suggesting plots and such.


What if when the crystal is chipped someone finds a piece and figures out how to manipulate it for an evil purpose?

...or what if fragments in general could bestow powers unconditionally. It would depend on the person finding the fragment. Could make for a good side story following the fragments. And a way to develop characters in general. And think of those infinite possibilities based on the finder.


Someone was impacted in a good way by the hero. Finds a fragment and is bestowed a gift. The finder decides to utilize this found power in tribute to their savior, Deadeye.



A finder has a grudge against Deadeye for some reason known only to them. They become an enemy as you mentioned.



Someone happens across a fragment, sells it on ebay, and the buyer unknowingly becomes recipient of a powerful tool. How would they use it?



A scientist or archeologists happens across a fragment and it ends up in the hands of a corporation using it for profitable means.



I think the fragment idea is a good way to generate future story ideas.

deDIKnight
09-07-2005, 12:13 PM
Yep its definitely is

Thanks for the support on that idea

I also like how the Yashida piece is passed down to the guy that finds the original "source"

deDIKnight
09-07-2005, 12:16 PM
Son Of Logan

Currently without one.

Perhaps with the spirit released it goes berzerk, overly sensative to good and evil, it's standards too high murdering the innocents as well as the guilty. The body inherent of the DS must recapture the spirit to reform the balance.


What are the main points, charactaristics which you want DS to reflect?


Well are you talking about the original DS? Or the Sam Yashida Future DS?

The original acts benevolently at first, evolving humanity to use fire and metal work etc - a protector of its people as it feels an overwhelming sense of duty, but then starts succumbing to the true spirit of the jewel and goes on kill crazy rampages slaughtering innocents that have the barest trace of evil in them

It judges all guilty so he is its tool to carry out sentence

But he comes to his own senses sees what the "entity" will do if freed and commits "honorable suicide" again a sense of TRUE duty prevails to inevitably do the RIGHT thing - but this time its not the AT pulling his mental strings

And when the AT spirit Crystal possesses Yashida in the future - the story is set up for

Will this happen again? Will history repeat itself?

But Yashida isnt a mystically evolved cave man - he has a strong moral code from his upbringing - more civilised - so he is able to resist the entity's influence better:up::)

Again Sense of DUTY Prevails - but how long can he resist?

NDX
09-07-2005, 10:06 PM
I knew it, Bane's not human.

Amazing work of art Bane. Again. But for some reason, the chin bothers me. Otherwise, amazing.

Ultimate Movie-Man
09-08-2005, 06:41 AM
Hey, Dedi, this is the basic final product...I can never be arsed to add a background on these sorts of things...rrh.

Hope people like...if not, thats cool...I'm not the one desiging the look of Deadeye.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/Chattery/deadeyesamurai05.jpg

And his gloves are, like...silver...so that's why it looks that way.

Maxwinner
09-08-2005, 08:18 AM
Dedi, For some inspiration, see some Akira Kurosawa films... or...something....

deDIKnight
09-08-2005, 08:35 AM
Was that a Diss or Honest help MAx?

I'm not sure if that was sarcasm there max or you being helpful

Why exactly do you think I havent Max?

Thanks for the input tho

I have Seven SAmurai and Yojimbo - all the Zatoichi (Blind Swordsman) films (Beat Takeshi and the old Katsushin 60/70s TVs show), Shogun Assassin (and babycart film series) and Lady snowblood

So I'm up on Samurai stuff from EDO period

As well as Jet Lis Fong sai yuk series, Crouching Tiger, Flying Daggers and umpteen hong kong movies I aint gonna bore anyone with listing

Maxwinner
09-08-2005, 08:41 AM
Of course i was kidding, No Diss!

Where did you buy Lady snowblood!? wow, cant find it anywhere

deDIKnight
09-08-2005, 09:10 AM
Contact me By AIM and i'll tell ya

My yahoo connection is Down just now

Deadeye samurai is influenced by Shogun Assassin, Zatoichi and Fong Sai Yuk 2 among other references

bane
09-08-2005, 10:24 AM
deDIKnight let someone else color my Samurai:)Always wanted to see somebody else coloring my drawings.

deDIKnight
09-08-2005, 12:02 PM
You got it Bane my friend - when max has stopped being a smart ass - he can take a crack

Then theres the real great colorers spiderfan08 and Triem23, and your friend Roma who is still on holiday I believe but wants to help out on the book

Maxwinner
09-08-2005, 12:22 PM
I hope you like...Please Like IT!!!!












http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3868/deadeye0upfgjh1iw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

bane
09-08-2005, 12:51 PM
It's cool, just try to put white spot on his head like you have puted one on his left arm.Overal it's cool!

deDIKnight
09-08-2005, 01:07 PM
Its Cool

EXCEPT

THE SWORDS ARE MEANT TO BE GLOWING!!!!!!(VOICE ECHOES AROUND THE GALAXY)

They dont exist unless he calls them forth - they are made - handle and blade from light

So they should be as bright as his Glowing Jewels

Big Dirty Ogre
09-08-2005, 07:25 PM
roughed out sketch of the O.G. Deadeye.


left it blankish so one of you top notch colorists can pretty it up for Dedi.


as you can see, the crystal takes up much of his upper face and skull.


http://www.castlereshka.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=8217&stc=1

CyberMonkeytron
09-08-2005, 07:42 PM
your stuff always reminds me of robert crumb, orge- which is a good thing in my books :up:

liking the idea of the jewel being a large bit of his head.

Smoke87
09-09-2005, 03:26 AM
just finished this. Came out darker than I wanted it to on his back, but oh well. Quick and simple. I'll be doing the rest of that fight scene next dedi.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/deadeyesamurai05.jpg

Big Dirty Ogre
09-09-2005, 03:27 AM
your stuff always reminds me of robert crumb, orge- which is a good thing in my books :up:




Thanks, man. :)

Big Dirty Ogre
09-09-2005, 03:32 AM
just finished this. Came out darker than I wanted it to on his back, but oh well. Quick and simple. I'll be doing the rest of that fight scene next dedi.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/deadeyesamurai05.jpg


Smoke, I have to mention something. You're a great penciller, with awesome style, but you go way overboard on muscles. That picture is borderline Liefeldian. Many of those muscles don't exist. I suggest purchasing a few body building and/or fitness magazines for referance.

Exaggeration is one thing, but inventing entirely new muscle groups may very well impede your progress as an artist.

I'm not trying to pick, but it'd be a shame to see you let such phenomenal raw talent be squandered when the remedy is so simply attained.

Just a thought, my friend.

Smoke87
09-09-2005, 03:41 AM
Smoke, I have to mention something. You're a great penciller, with awesome style, but you go way overboard on muscles. That picture is borderline Liefeldian. Many of those muscles don't exist. I suggest purchasing a few body building and/or fitness magazines for referance.

Exaggeration is one thing, but inventing entirely new muscle groups may very well impede your progress as an artist.

I'm not trying to pick, but it'd be a shame to see you let such phenomenal raw talent be squandered when the remedy is so simply attained.

Just a thought, my friend.

lol, thanks. I know what u mean, I did go a little overboard on the muscles. I really should look at some magazines like u said. It's kind of funny looking at it now, cuz it didn't seem that bad when I was doing it. thanks for the advice

Big Dirty Ogre
09-09-2005, 03:50 AM
Please don't be too hard on yourself.

Rest assured that 98% of the people who look at this picture will not only think it's fantastic, but won't even notice what I pointed out.

Your art is awesome looking, regardless of what I said. You have the basic shape down pretty well, honestly.

Also, I'm a guy who's been lifting weights for over a decade, and I used to look at reference materials constantly, as I don't have the natural ability that you have.

Basically, I'm telling you about the musculature, because it's something a publisher would look at when considering you for employment.

Your raw skill exceeds what I've seen in many pro comic books, but even those guys with shoddy art usually know anatomy pretty well.

I really dig your stuff, and simply want to see you reach your potential.

Big Dirty Ogre
09-09-2005, 03:55 AM
I've attatched a couple of roughed out pics of the spirit form, A.T.



Any of you colorists out there want to enhance them, feel free.

lionhart
09-09-2005, 06:32 AM
I'd actually recommend anatomy books over bodybuilding magazines.

Big Dirty Ogre
09-09-2005, 06:38 AM
It depends on what you're trying to draw.

I wouldn't recommend one over the other, unless I knew precisely what the person was trying to draw.

Anatomy books usually feature average build figures, and they are often illustrations.

Bodybuilding magazines feature both grossly overdeveloped and ultra ripped pictures of real bodies.


If you want to learn to draw a superhero-esque physique, a bodybuilding magazine is the way to go.

lionhart
09-09-2005, 07:27 AM
No, ninjas, Spiderman, Daredevil, Batman, and others are not "grossly overdeveloped and ultra ripped." It's better to have knowledge of the human body, and of the muscles in it. Rather than being able to draw behemoths in thongs.

bane
09-09-2005, 09:01 AM
deDIKnight here's what i had in mind about the cover
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/4981/deadeye019zl.jpg

Son Of Logan
09-09-2005, 09:16 AM
God dam, that's frikkin' awesome, Bane.

RAMORE
09-09-2005, 09:56 AM
WOW^ very good:up:

deDIKnight
09-09-2005, 01:13 PM
Sorry I've been away so Long guys - had crap to deal with outside the board


Smoke87(Superb)

Big Dirty Ogre (Great Work)

Bane (WOW!!!)

thanks for contributing concept designs, panel work and other stuff for this thread

all different styles, all great work

And the rest of you that have contributed thus far also have my profound respect for your hard work




Lionhart as a Medical professional in Life you Unequivocably know your stuff - but you arent TOTALLY RIGHT either

BOTH your and BDO's advice for Smoke are valid - especially since Most superheros are ripped - muscle mags are an invaluble resource AND CHEAPER than a book on anatomy

But Anatomy is important too

I dunno what you may or may not have seen but all those superheroes you mentioned at some point have been portrayed as RIPPED
And some have been drawn and Painted by BORIS VALLEJO and JULIE BELL veritable Gods in the field of superheroics and fantasy
Using Body builders

Alex Ross too uses body builders as his heroes - but undoubtedly has a profound knowledge of anatomy as well

But BDO is quite correct when you draw a superhero - standard musculature is important but superheros dont usually have average musculature especially spiderman Batman and DD

They are the peak ,and in spideys case, beyond human physical perfection

Bruce Lee had more muscle definition than your average man

Both Big Dirty Ogre and I are body builders - myself a martial artist for ten years - Wing Chun and we are pretty decent artists

You a medical proffessional and artist

So we all know a fair bit about muscle groups between the three of us


SO PLEASE LIONHART

Show us all how its done and post some of your work here using your medical muscle group expertise to your advantage

Try and draw the Deadeye Samurai

BDO, Bane and others have

Why dont you lead by example?

Challenge given

Challenge accepted?

lionhart
09-09-2005, 01:47 PM
I suggested anatomy books as another option so that way you would know how to draw something besides muscled behemoths in thongs. Sometimes they are necessary. From what I have seen Alex Ross does not use bodybuilders as models. He is very skilled with how he can take a photo and paint it. Besides his work comes across as more thick than built. As a former football player, I know all about working out and built bodies. I don't think that Batman has ever been portayed as more than 220lbs and Spiderman no more than 180lbs. They are not bodybuilders and therefore should not be based on it. I'd even make a case for Superman on this.
As far as contributing to your Deadeye Ninja, I'll pass. It holds no interest to me to work on another's original creation. I'd rather work on my own when I get the chance. I'm sure your 'elite' will get the job done. It'll be very interesting to see where this goes.

Big Dirty Ogre
09-09-2005, 02:07 PM
No, ninjas, Spiderman, Daredevil, Batman, and others are not "grossly overdeveloped and ultra ripped." It's better to have knowledge of the human body, and of the muscles in it. Rather than being able to draw behemoths in thongs.

Why are you argueing with me?

I didn't contradict what you said, I simply extrapolated on my own point.

Batman most definitely is drawn as over developed and super ripped in his comic form, about 90% of the time.

He's a huge guy. DD isn't far behind, at a completely shredded 6', 200 lbs.

Being 6', 200 lbs at a very low bodyfat would indeed mean you are built like a guy in a bodybuilding magazine.

You're aware that not all bodybuilders are 290lb steroid abusers, right?

I don't use any supplementation at all these days, except for whey protein and a multivitamin. I promise you, I'm much more well built than either the figures in anatomy books, or Christian Bale.

The human body changes shape dramatically when it becomes very muscular, and drawing a wider version of an average figure wont cut it.

lionhart
09-09-2005, 02:14 PM
Okay, see my post above and congratulations on having a better build than Christian Bale.

deDIKnight
09-09-2005, 02:22 PM
LOL 290lb steroid abuser?

Thats funny BDO

I'm 280lbs and 40 of that is fat - gotta get back in shape

And I never juiced

Lionhart I wasnt arguing with you - just saying that BDO was also right

As for Alex ross working with bodybuilders - he does - not ultra ripped but very muscular
So does Vallejo and Julie Bell
Simon Bisley has drawn batman and daredevil and simon who I know well, always consults muscle mags before anatomy 101



All I was asking you is draw a technically anatomically perfect deadeye samurai for the thread to Further illustrate your point

Dont want to do that, fine - but we have illustrated ours adequately enough


And Here is a great piece again By BANE updating the orginal he posted



http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9666/deadeye016hp.jpg
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/misc/vbulletin3_logo_white.gif (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/index.php?)

deDIKnight
09-09-2005, 02:51 PM
Lionhart

I suggested anatomy books as another option so that way you would know how to draw something besides muscled behemoths in thongs. Sometimes they are necessary. From what I have seen Alex Ross does not use bodybuilders as models. He is very skilled with how he can take a photo and paint it. Besides his work comes across as more thick than built. As a former football player, I know all about working out and built bodies. I don't think that Batman has ever been portayed as more than 220lbs and Spiderman no more than 180lbs. They are not bodybuilders and therefore should not be based on it. I'd even make a case for Superman on this.
As far as contributing to your Deadeye Ninja, I'll pass. It holds no interest to me to work on another's original creation. I'd rather work on my own when I get the chance. I'm sure your 'elite' will get the job done. It'll be very interesting to see where this goes.


[QUOTE] Lionhart

I suggested anatomy books as another option so that way you would know how to draw something besides muscled behemoths in thongs.



No you flatly went against what BDO said - Please reread your posts

True there are "Musclebound behemoths" as you put it in muscle mags - but neither BDO or myself are ultra ripped

There are different kinds of body builder - you remember correctly i cited Bruce lee


From what I have seen Alex Ross does not use bodybuilders as models. He is very skilled with how he can take a photo and paint it. Besides his work comes across as more thick than built.


Well he has on occasion as well as muscle mags of the 50s/60s eras with steve reeves etc and actual models

As far as contributing to your Deadeye Ninja, I'll pass. It holds no interest to me to work on another's original creation. I'd rather work on my own when I get the chance. I'm sure your 'elite' will get the job done. It'll be very interesting to see where this goes.

That much is obvious that you have no interest in this thread

and your talent - which I have admired - will be missed

But I wonder....if you have no interest to work on anothers original creation -

Why are you here posting in this thread?

Or for that matter drawing comic characters?

They are afterall by definition - another's original creation

And My character isnt a "Deadeye Ninja" - Shinobi (ninja) are usually dressed in dark garb, have face masks and are assassins

He is called DEADEYE SAMURAI and like a samurai he struggles with conflicting emotions to walk an honorable path and do the right thing

And he is far more "superpowers" than either Ninja or samurai


But thank you for saying its very interesting to see where this goes
Others have faith in this too

Son Of Logan
09-09-2005, 03:27 PM
I'm 5'9 and 215 lbs. I can't lift a weight to save my life. But I'm strong and despite a little beer belly I'm far from fat.


Anyways...can we ignore these trolls and get on with the positivity? :)

deDIKnight
09-09-2005, 04:04 PM
Yep SOL post some japanese words to help out an Adamantium Brother

I need specifically Good, Evil, Ugly, beautiful, Red, Black, white, Moon and sun in japanese

triem23
09-09-2005, 05:58 PM
Right, colored the first Bane:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/triem23/TriemColorBaneDeadeye0up.jpg

On to either coloring someone else's deadeye, or continuing to work on my own.

deDIKnight
09-09-2005, 08:05 PM
That is an AWESOME piece of Coloring

Love the background and the swords are glowing

Perfect

Bane,

Max did you proud my man

Triem23 went one better

Well done T:up: ;) :up:

campbell551
09-09-2005, 11:29 PM
first post here. I'm throwing this out on a very late night night for me. Just got home from a 12 hour shift and I'm all hopped up on red Bull anda caffeine pills. Anyway, I banged this out in about 10 mins, so forgive the poor perspective and absence of feet. (as Leifeld once said, 'when in doubt, black it out' Haha
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/campbell551/Dedicopy.jpg
If anyone wants to taker a stab at color or proportion fixing, have at it. I plan to do a more intensive treatment sometime soon.
Be well, everyone.

campbell551
09-09-2005, 11:30 PM
first post here. I'm throwing this out on a very late night night for me. Just got home from a 12 hour shift and I'm all hopped up on red Bull anda caffeine pills. Anyway, I banged this out in about 10 mins, so forgive the poor perspective and absence of feet. (as Leifeld once said, 'when in doubt, black it out' Haha
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/campbell551/Dedicopy.jpg
If anyone wants to taker a stab at color or proportion fixing, have at it. I plan to do a more intensive treatment sometime soon.
Be well, everyone.

Big Dirty Ogre
09-10-2005, 01:40 AM
damned nice, both times.

deDIKnight
09-10-2005, 02:11 AM
I agree with my learned fellow Adamantium Member.....

That is a very good drawing Campbell - nice pose

When you can find time bro - let it be the first of many

Welcome to the thread:)

would you like that colored?

campbell551
09-10-2005, 11:06 AM
I agree with my learned fellow Adamantium Member.....

That is a very good drawing Campbell - nice pose

When you can find time bro - let it be the first of many

Welcome to the thread:)

would you like that colored?
Hey, thanks for the welcome, and color away. I'm really impressed by the quality of work in this thread, I plan to be around for awhile. Consider me inspired.

brad
09-10-2005, 01:03 PM
Here is one I am working on still getting the feel for the character.

http://doomedculturegraphics.com/Pics2/DeadI1.jpg

Big Dirty Ogre
09-10-2005, 03:53 PM
Great, dynamic pose.

Awesome art.

Face looks a bit too small on his head, though.

Maxwinner
09-10-2005, 06:14 PM
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/8519/dedicopyxfbg9ky.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

djsupes
09-10-2005, 06:25 PM
I havn't read any posts but I did look at the pics, pretty nice ;)

So is this getting published DeDI?

CyberMonkeytron
09-10-2005, 09:16 PM
hey max-keep in mind the differnt materials that you are rendering.

I find you often have the same bright highlight sparkle on all surfaces no matter what you are colouring. Metal and skin and leather all reflect or absorb light differently so they wouldn't necessary all have the same shiny spot.

And stay away from photoshops grass brush...its the devil...or atleast his cousin...

brad
09-10-2005, 10:15 PM
Here is the finished peice.

http://doomedculturegraphics.com/Pics2/DeadI1a.jpg

deDIKnight
09-11-2005, 12:32 AM
Brad and everyone else who is keeping the faith and doing stuff for this thread

THANK YOU SO MUCH

http://doomedculturegraphics.com/Pics2/DeadI1.jpg

http://doomedculturegraphics.com/Pics2/DeadI1a.jpg

Brad that is an incredible piece - and I really want to see my character even more now in animated form after seeing your take

I love the gunsight behind him too

deDIKnight
09-11-2005, 12:39 AM
DJ Supes

I havn't read any posts but I did look at the pics, pretty nice http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

So is this getting published DeDI?


Well I and the others here are not going to all this hard work for nothin, Canuck:) :up:

Two part plan

Get the finished comic done - even if its just the first issue and send a copy to each of the big studios - see if they want to pick it up as one of their own series

Not only will i get my writing and design showcased - but also the artwork and writing of the others that come with me on the project

If Not

I self publish it myself and thru the contacts I've made in other countries

Also looking into doing it as a paypal webcomic too
But thats an area I dont know too much about


DJ, if you want to read the posts - instead of just lookin at the art - you'll get the basic story etc

peace

deDIKnight
09-11-2005, 04:45 AM
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/campbell551/Dedicopy.jpg

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/8519/dedicopyxfbg9ky.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Very good Colouring job of Campbell's original Great pencils, Max - the leaves and grass are an especially nice touch :up: :eek: :up:

deDIKnight
09-11-2005, 05:55 AM
http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/9972/akaitaiyo0tc.jpg



Updates for the AKAI TAIYO spirit that possesses the various hosts over the eras Great work by Spidefan08 and Hyperion
with a redraw of the face by me


And the superb Jim Lee like artwork of my good friend and good ol' countryboy daffyboy69 who has draw the AKAI TAIYO spirit like a Gaki (a hungry ghost)

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4486/dedi25wc.jpg
__________________


Superb Work Daffy :up: :eek: :up: - Thats definitely what a Gaki - Looks like - I would make it more red tho

Lol - remember Johhny Thunder? And the Thunderbolt? - I think it needs more red so it doesnt look so pink

But Awesome work none the less

I cant wait to see you draw your take on the battle scene at the start - if BDO can do the darkside and you draw the light side - maybe if i can get the cash together - we can put it in a big poster or make a double gatefold cover ( just an Ideahttp://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/images/smilies/redface.gif )

did you read the script I posted previously

See if theres anything in that you want to draw



Hes going to do a spawn like version soon

deDIKnight
09-11-2005, 06:56 AM
Could someone Colour the rest of my man Big Dirty Ogres Work?

Smokes and NDXs too please

IM or PM me for exactly what i want for this

Triem does and I know spiederfan08 cant right now

But Max - I see you got a few messengers there - I'm on two AIM and Yahoo


PM or IM ME PLEASE

triem23
09-11-2005, 07:52 AM
hoping to get to the BDO "Caveman" pic tomorrow--right now I need sleep.

I'm thinking that BDO's art might benefit more from flatter, less saturated colors, maybe with more of a subtle, but still flattish gradient look, like a japanese watercolor, but I'm not sure yet.

Then on to Campell's, the Brad's, then back to my own drawing.

deDIKnight
09-11-2005, 08:03 AM
Great stuff triem

Looking forward to that

Youre the man

djsupes
09-11-2005, 10:48 AM
Well I and the others here are not going to all this hard work for nothin, Canuck:) :up:

Two part plan

Get the finished comic done - even if its just the first issue and send a copy to each of the big studios - see if they want to pick it up as one of their own series

Not only will i get my writing and design showcased - but also the artwork and writing of the others that come with me on the project

If Not

I self publish it myself and thru the contacts I've made in other countries

Also looking into doing it as a paypal webcomic too
But thats an area I dont know too much about


DJ, if you want to read the posts - instead of just lookin at the art - you'll get the basic story etc

peace

Cool! I wish you the best Dedi, I'd definately pick it up in stores just cause it's cool to have someone from SHH do that kind of thing!

deDIKnight
09-11-2005, 11:00 AM
Well thanks man - you wishing me well means a lot, man

Considering how you and i argued before - but thats past now

Good to know youre a "true believer"

LOL

Lot of hard work and a lot of faith is what this project and all the others I got planned will be built on

So thanks for your faith

clubber
09-11-2005, 11:26 AM
WOW.

The new Deadeye pics look great.

I like Brad's coloring style on this version!

deDIKnight
09-11-2005, 12:47 PM
Yeah brads stuff is really good

had the privilige of reading some of his Seamus O Leary comic script hes bringing out

funny stuff

deDIKnight
09-11-2005, 03:04 PM
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a103/papakeelo/dEDi.jpg


Still got this one to colour up too guys:) :up:

Démon
09-11-2005, 04:04 PM
Must compliment everybody in this thread on their excellent artwork. You've got a very interesting character, DeDIKnight, and it's great to see a lot of diversity in everyone's interpretations of the character. Great work, everyone! :up:

(Personally, I'd like to do up a design myself, but since I lack a scanner, it's kind of pointless.)

deDIKnight
09-11-2005, 04:13 PM
I just draw by hand (no vectoring and such) using a clapped out mouse and Paintshop pro 6

And i'm half blind

If I can do it - you can do it too bro

Try it - you can download a trial for free at Jasc Paintshop pro website

triem23
09-11-2005, 08:29 PM
My colors of BDO's AT.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/triem23/TriemBDOAT.jpg

EdRyder
09-11-2005, 08:49 PM
Straight to comic script is a better aproach (imho).,,The foremost reason would be editing.As in.,the format that youve started with now,will take an edit to be formated to script form.Dont know if youve ever read comic scripts but there just great--(page 2 panel 3-closeup of so and so looking all hatey-the ballon reads"blahblah blah bliggity blah"--Love em!- Im sure you can find some online to read

Triem thats uber cool!Constellation Kagemushaaaaa!!!

triem23
09-11-2005, 10:53 PM
And Campell's

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/triem23/Triem_CampbellDedicopy.jpg

triem23
09-11-2005, 10:59 PM
THanks for the compliment Ed!

As far as script format goes--very few comic writers start with the script phase--DeDI's still in his plotting and outline phase. And, yes, it will take another edit to get into script format, but, then again, going to script would be a mistake.

The character, storyline and world are still in development. Script later.

Take a look at the DC book of Comic Book Writing by Dennis O' Neil---he'll talk about the different script formats, as well as all the stuff you do BEFORE you go to script.

Script later, development first.

And, there is no "set format" for writing a comic script... Each writer has his own format.

I'm sure deDI takes it as a compliment that so many people are eager to see the script phase, but he's not at that point yet.

ANd, *ahem* asking deDI if he's seen a script might piss the man off--he's a former comic pro, sidelined thru disability, trying to get back into the game---I'm guess he's seen a script before.

Smoke87
09-12-2005, 05:10 AM
Hey guys. I was gone for a few days, but back now. Heres a new sketch. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/deadeyefight03.jpg
let me know what needs fixing

deDIKnight
09-12-2005, 06:37 AM
The deadeye Samurai character is very nicely drawn as always smoke - :) :up:

but what's with the Reject from VanHalen?:mad:

WTF he meant to be?



Hes nicely detailed and drawn too - especially the arms and torso - hairs

but you've gone a bit overboard with the muscles and he's in such as strange pose that i couldnt easily read it at first

He looks like he's twisted back to front and that there looks to be fingers growing out of his knee - the neck looks strange and over developed too

If hes meant to be looking back over his shoulder while facing front then that thigh muscle structure should different

Cos the way you have drawn it
theres no incline into the crotch area and so looks like along with the loin cloith that his ass is facing the viewer while his upper body is unnaturally twisted around facing his butt

but still a great piece of pencilling:up: - i love how you build up tone :up: - just watch that you differentiate cloth from muscle


I thought you were going to do the Sequential head attack panel?

I left notes for you for the strip sequence in your thread bro

Smoke87
09-12-2005, 07:21 AM
I know what you mean. Looking at it now in full, his leg is weird. Also, his hair cracks me up for some reason. it looks like spaghetti.

Oh, I haven't forgotten about the other fight scene I was suppose to finish, just took a litte break from it. I'll continue on it tomorrow. Well off to bed now, thanks dedi

campbell551
09-12-2005, 08:47 AM
And Campell's

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/triem23/Triem_CampbellDedicopy.jpg

Wow, i'm really impressed by both color attempts on my sketch. Great stuff guys. I hope to have some more drawings ready soon.

deDIKnight
09-12-2005, 09:12 AM
Thanks for the compliment Ed!

As far as script format goes--very few comic writers start with the script phase--DeDI's still in his plotting and outline phase. And, yes, it will take another edit to get into script format, but, then again, going to script would be a mistake.

The character, storyline and world are still in development. Script later.

Take a look at the DC book of Comic Book Writing by Dennis O' Neil---he'll talk about the different script formats, as well as all the stuff you do BEFORE you go to script.

Script later, development first.

And, there is no "set format" for writing a comic script... Each writer has his own format.

I'm sure deDI takes it as a compliment that so many people are eager to see the script phase, but he's not at that point yet.

ANd, *ahem* asking deDI if he's seen a script might piss the man off--he's a former comic pro, sidelined thru disability, trying to get back into the game---I'm guess he's seen a script before.




Yeah sorry triem for not giving you due Praise before

The New colorings of Both BDOs AK spirit and Campbells Deadeye Samurai are SUPERLATIVE as ever - it really goes without saying

GREAT WORK TRIEM - Big Dirty Ogre is gonna love that

But Like Campbell - I like both of the colouring jobs thats been done too

Both have their own merits

But You know I do have my favourite also:) :up:


And thanks for saying what needed to be said to "Mr ED" there



EDRyder - I was a trained professional at one point and i knew several industry writers and artists

Each has their own Writing style and method, just like an artist does

While i'm not exactly pissed off at your comments -

Maybe you should take in all variables why i put up a synopsis first
And THEN think about making assumptions on my competence and script expedience as a writer?

If You go back again - and look at the post where i put up the story Synopsis

Before it.......

IT CLEARLY SAYS - That its subject to being rewritten and ROUGH

I am still in two minds whether to do the story in sequence

>>>Prehistory>>>>Early man>>>>Feudal Japan>>>>Future

Or do the feudal Japan part in flash back

I also want to see what all the artists here are capable of


You see.....Say i had a finished script ready to go and an artist was great at doing one off single character posters - but not sequential art

And I gave that artist the Strip script to do - He'd be struggling wouldnt he?

So I want to see what evryone can do - sequential art, fightscenes etc and THEN to play to their strengths

:) :up:

Big Dirty Ogre
09-12-2005, 04:46 PM
Hey guys. I was gone for a few days, but back now. Heres a new sketch. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/deadeyefight03.jpg
let me know what needs fixing


nice, man.

looks like you're trying to tone down the muscles a little. try to simplify it a little more. do you do layouts first?

hopefully, smoke is about to kill that creepy anabolic homosexual. :confused:

the it's all really good, except for the wonky leg.

Big Dirty Ogre
09-12-2005, 05:23 PM
Straight to comic script is a better aproach (imho).,,The foremost reason would be editing.As in.,the format that youve started with now,will take an edit to be formated to script form.Dont know if youve ever read comic scripts but there just great--(page 2 panel 3-closeup of so and so looking all hatey-the ballon reads"blahblah blah bliggity blah"--Love em!- Im sure you can find some online to read

Triem thats uber cool!Constellation Kagemushaaaaa!!!


thanks for complimenting triems colors of my art. triem is the man, indeed.

but as for your other comments, care to show us your professional comic creator resume? or a comic script you wrote, that was published?

boji
09-12-2005, 05:55 PM
but as for your other comments, care to show us your professional comic creator resume? or a comic script you wrote, that was published?

can dedieye do the same?

Boji

Big Dirty Ogre
09-12-2005, 07:06 PM
The guy made a living from his art, before becoming disabled. He was blind for a decade, and a surgery partially restored his vision in one eye.
He is starting to get back into the industry right now, and is making a real effort, instead of blabbing about what he'd like to do.
Why the **** would he have us draw panels of a story that isn't finished?
That would be stupid, and time consuming.
I'm still designing a final version of my segment's characters.
This thread also serves as a "human resources dept.", as we're rounding up interested artists and writers.
We are all working out the details together, under his guidance. We're getting the ball rolling, and having a damned good time.

Are you an artist or writer, in any capacity?

boji
09-12-2005, 07:12 PM
Oh so he hasn't yet. Thanks!!!!!!!! By the way, for a comic, this has some really cool sequential art.

Smoke87
09-12-2005, 08:28 PM
hello yet again

I have done the first page of the sequential fight scene dedi has been asking about. A few things first.

1. I did not shade it like the first pic, yet. Let me know if I should (although it would take a long ass time)
2. I'm not use to drawing so small, so there is not as much detail as some of my others.
3. My scanner doesn't pic up some of the light stuff too great, so if u are having trouble seeing it, let me know and I'll lower the brightness and make it easier.

ummm I think that's it... let me know how it is comming along and how to fix stuff. I'm working on page 2 as we speak :)

first page redone:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg0.jpg

2nd page, none shaded.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg1.jpg

spiderfan08
09-12-2005, 08:44 PM
very cool smoke. i like it a lot. keep at it!

boji
09-12-2005, 08:47 PM
In page one, looks like the guy has some leg length discrepancy.

EdRyder
09-12-2005, 08:50 PM
It wasnt my intention for a simple suggestion to result in an attack on my personal life or career.
Ogre try and keep things in perspective man.
I was not aware Dedi had a profesional past,and if you read my post it does say"dont know if you have read any scripts before"
"think about making assumptions on my competence and script expedience as a writer"
I made no such assumption,other than maybe you hadnt read any before,I most definately didnt make ANY comment on your competence,,sorry you took it that way

Smoke87
09-12-2005, 08:50 PM
thanks spiderfan, I'm working on it.
And yeh, there is a problem with the length of his leg in the first pic, but I'm WAY too lazy to fix it right now. May later

Big Dirty Ogre
09-12-2005, 10:52 PM
Oh so he hasn't yet. Thanks!!!!!!!! By the way, for a comic, this has some really cool sequential art.


I have an idea, sarcastic troll. Why don't you ask him what he's worked on?

When artistry is your profession, meaning that you make money from it, you are by definition a professional artist.

Are you a writer, troll?

Are you an artist, troll?

How about showing us some of your professional work, or would that involve a deep fryer or a broom?

If you're here to criticize everyone's work, it's only fair that we see what you can do. Otherwise, no one gives a **** about your little opinion.


As for finished sequential art, that comes after the story planning is done. You first come up with a story. Then you design your charcacters. Then you fine tune both, until you've weeded out the wonky bits. Then you finish your script, with detailed panel descriptions. Then the artists draw the comic, according to the writers instructions.
We are in the conception phase. It's not that hard to figure out, genius. :up:

Big Dirty Ogre
09-12-2005, 11:04 PM
Another pic of AT, a little more detailed.

http://www.castlereshka.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=8225&stc=1

boji
09-12-2005, 11:26 PM
I have an idea, sarcastic troll. Why don't you ask him what he's worked on?

Ok, what has he worked on? Although I believe I already asked this question.

When artistry is your profession, meaning that you make money from it, you are by definition a professional artist.

Wow, thanks for explaining.

Are you a writer, troll?

Yeah I was before I went blind. Shrek???

Are you an artist, troll?

See above. Shrek???

How about showing us some of your professional work, or would that involve a deep fryer or a broom?

Deep fryer, broom. I take it you had a bad childhood.

If you're here to criticize everyone's work, it's only fair that we see what you can do. Otherwise, no one gives a **** about your little opinion.

Apparently you do, because you're arguing with me.

As for finished sequential art, that comes after the story planning is done. You first come up with a story. Then you design your charcacters. Then you fine tune both, until you've weeded out the wonky bits. Then you finish your script, with detailed panel descriptions. Then the artists draw the comic, according to the writers instructions.
We are in the conception phase. It's not that hard to figure out, genius. :up:

"Charcacters?" Oh you mean characters. I guess you haven't made it into proofreading. Wonky? What are you? Canadian? Well have fun with your "charcacters."

boji

CyberMonkeytron
09-12-2005, 11:49 PM
Im not one to butt into other peoples disagreements, but it sounds like you guys are in the need of some medicine:

http://203.97.5.87/staff/joel/joelstuff/chillpill2.jpg



I hate it when mummy and daddy fight....

Big Dirty Ogre
09-13-2005, 12:08 AM
Ok, what has he worked on? Although I believe I already asked this question.

Like I said, ask him for his work history.

While we're at it, lets hear all about the amazing things you've accomplished, internet troll. Oh ****, you've never done anything creative or constructive, have you? That's why you have to create accounts on superhero message boards, go straight into the fan art section, and start picking apart other people's artistic endeavors with your very first post.

Smells to me like someone who may already be a member, but is too much of a cowardly prick to talk **** under his original name.


Wow, thanks for explaining.

You're welcome.
I've always had compassion for the mentally challenged, so I try and make things as simple as possible for them to understand.


Yeah I was before I went blind. Shrek???
See above. Shrek???

Wow, you're so ****ing clever. I have never once been called "Shrek". :rolleyes:
Pat yourself on the back, doofus.
Oh, yeah.....
Way to go, making fun of someone who spent 10 years not being able to see his children grow up.
You're just as tastefully humorous as you are intelligent, apparently.



Deep fryer, broom. I take it you had a bad childhood.
Apparently you do, because you're arguing with me.

You keep cracking lame jokes, but you've yet to provide a reason why anyone should give a rat **** about what some troll with a single digit post count thinks about our story. What makes you worthy of questioning other people's work, when you obviously have no talents of your own.
That's like Andy Dick giving Arnold Schwarzenegger bodybuilding tips.




"Charcacters?" Oh you mean characters. I guess you haven't made it into proofreading. Wonky? What are you? Canadian? Well have fun with your "charcacters."

Oh, a weak crack about a typo, and a Canadian joke, all in the same breath?

The originality and depth of your humor continually amazes me.


For the record, I'm a creole, from a place with infinite culture and history, southern Louisiana.

Proofreading? In your very first post, you couldn't even get the author of this thread's name right. It's on every page of this thread, multiple times.

It's dediKnight, or dedi for short. Not "dedieye". So much for your flawless spelling and typing, jackass.

Thanks for signing the bottom of your post, by the way, because otherwise I'd have never known it was you. Dip****.

Big Dirty Ogre
09-13-2005, 12:17 AM
Im not one to butt into other peoples disagreements, but it sounds like you guys are in the need of some medicine:

http://203.97.5.87/staff/joel/joelstuff/chillpill2.jpg



I hate it when mummy and daddy fight....

Forgive me for not bending over and taking it like a good little boy.

Perhaps I should have handed him a bottle of baby oil, intead?

The guy is a prick, with the sole intention of mouthing off to people on the internet, after spending another day of his pitiful existence cleaning the bathroom at McDonalds.
What's wrong, "boji"(which is so much cooler than "Big Dirty Ogre". Man, I wish I'd thought of that one first.)?
Mommy didn't make you cookies today?

Still mad that "Enterprise" got cancelled?

****ing trolls make me sick.


I ain't got a problem with you, Cyber, but guys like this need to be told.

No matter how much **** he talks, he won't be able to back his opinions up with credibility.

He's the most worthess type of individual. He talks **** to people from the safety of his little computer desk, because he's a coward.

nosebleed.
09-13-2005, 12:22 AM
lol

NDX
09-13-2005, 12:26 AM
That looks like a huge ecstasy pill. Or aspirin.

And we all know no one cleans the bathrooms at McDonalds. Which is seriously sad.

Smoke87
09-13-2005, 02:28 AM
ok, did the thrid page. I'll put all of them here so u can see them in seqence.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg0.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg2.jpg

pg 4 coming soon :up:

deDIKnight
09-13-2005, 03:02 AM
Well BDO thanks for the support - I guess I'm always gonna have the disbeliever

I think its more important in what I do now than the things, I was going to do in past

I'm a professional in that I'm commited to the Job in hand - it takes me time

Even more Time cos i'm doing it without the best equipment and without the best of health

I cant afford state of the art on state disablility benefit

And making cracks about my blindness Boji just makes you look bad - not me

If you honestly want to Know my past history Boji - IM me and we'll have it out there

Just keep it out of this thread or I'll get Excelsior or Drakon to do it for you

NDX
09-13-2005, 03:34 AM
The demonic face on the floating head (which having the head kicked off really fixed the first image) came out well. But I feel the teeth conforming to the line of the lip makes the mouth look a bit lazy towards the corners of the mouth. Just my thoughts.

deDIKnight
09-13-2005, 03:50 AM
ok, did the thrid page. I'll put all of them here so u can see them in seqence.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg0.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg2.jpg



Thats lookin GREAT smoke:up: :) :up:



a few things that you missed tho from my scripted fight scene block buddy -

Panel 1 ---- bigger sword on the assailant or axe weapon
flick knife really doesnt sell it and you do great swords man

Panel 5 ----When the body falls - the head stays where it is

And DediSam has actually turned his back to the falling body from the spin kick - so please Alter that

Panel 7 ---There should be a full figure long shot of dedisam in the background looking over his shoulder at the head you drew there

Panel 9 ---- I'd make the teeth the biggest part of the head tho -
Splitting it in half!!!

Eyes should be more Ping pong ball like with a black dot
but I love the serpent look

Smoke87
09-13-2005, 04:02 AM
thanks for the tips dedi. I got a few things to edit, might take me awhile to get around to it. maybe I'll just finish this scene up, treat it as a rough draft, and do it over, it might acutally be easier for me. Ok, later.

triem23
09-13-2005, 07:16 AM
Some randomness, in order of occurring to me.

Ignoring the internet troll is not "Bending over and taking it." The internet troll skulks around and starts crap. That's his entertainment. If you fight, by his "rules," he "wins," because there will be nothing logical or thought out in the troll posts, really, he's just trying for a reaction.

So don't give him one.

Most of us can spot the trolls, and we ignore them.

Smoke, I think you're right, treat the first fight scene as a layout, and repencil, there's enough edits where it could be a pain in the ass to redraw, and you'll end up with smearing from imperfectly erased graphite---lightbox it if you've got a panel you're in love with.

I'm a sick bastard, and deDI's note about "when the body falls the head stays where it is" for some reason makes me want to have the demon's head land on the back of it's own corpse (repeat of the panel where the body hits the ground, but add the head on top, with a "schplik!" as the sound effect). The physics would be terrible, but at 4am, it makes me laugh.

triem23
09-13-2005, 07:37 AM
Two more colorings of BDO's AT--I'm trying to get this insubstantial energy-looking creature thing on, and I think I'm on the right track.

I like this one, but I know it would never actually fly--AT's face, if nothing else, is too hard to see, so this is only moderately successful.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/triem23/Triem_BDO_AT3black.jpg

and for THIS one--well, this one took a lot more effort than one would think. But look at the B&W BDO posted, and you'll se why.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/triem23/Triem_BDO_AT3black_v2.jpg

triem23
09-13-2005, 07:39 AM
Another pic of AT, a little more detailed.

http://www.castlereshka.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=8225&stc=1

Namely, this.

deDIKnight
09-13-2005, 10:58 AM
Triem23

I'm a sick bastard, and deDI's note about "when the body falls the head stays where it is" for some reason makes me want to have the demon's head land on the back of it's own corpse (repeat of the panel where the body hits the ground, but add the head on top, with a "schplik!" as the sound effect). The physics would be terrible, but at 4am, it makes me laugh.



LOL - nothing wrong with being a sick bastard it worked for Peter Jackson:)

Well M, no offence intended -

But I would like the lad to redraw it EXACTLY the way I wrote It
I'm writing so far - hes doing sequentials


But by all means do a version of that scene by yourself - you can draw also

I'm doing a version too

Then we can see which is better:up:


Great coloring again on BDOs AKAI TAIYO spirit form pics

Superb work Triem

Big Dirty Ogre
09-13-2005, 01:34 PM
Two more colorings of BDO's AT--I'm trying to get this insubstantial energy-looking creature thing on, and I think I'm on the right track.

I like this one, but I know it would never actually fly--AT's face, if nothing else, is too hard to see, so this is only moderately successful.

and for THIS one--well, this one took a lot more effort than one would think. But look at the B&W BDO posted, and you'll se why.



LoL.........I don't draw my stuff thinking about the colorist's future difficulties. :O
Sorry, bud. From now on, I'll post the original sketch, so you can do your thing more easily.

Here's the original, in an attatchment.

Bishop.
09-13-2005, 02:08 PM
wow.. there is some pretty sweet art in this thread..

Son Of Logan
09-13-2005, 02:14 PM
There sure is. I'm getting impatient. This comic is gonna be phat. First a comic, then the toys, then the movie.

:wolverine

spiderfan08
09-13-2005, 04:29 PM
trying to get back in my coloring groove.



http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/spideyfreak08/dedi5.jpg

deathshead2
09-13-2005, 04:35 PM
I want to buy that comic.....it could be the best one ever....the art is fantastic!!!!

triem23
09-13-2005, 04:41 PM
LoL.........I don't draw my stuff thinking about the colorist's future difficulties. :O
Sorry, bud. From now on, I'll post the original sketch, so you can do your thing more easily.

Here's the original, in an attatchment.

LOL, no worries--Actually, I was able to get most of your original lines out of the first posted version, which was a fun excersize---but notice the face in the second colored version--it's actually a negative, where I reversed your blacks and whites--I don't know if it works, but it was something to try.

deDIKnight
09-13-2005, 05:13 PM
Son Of Logan

There sure is. I'm getting impatient. This comic is gonna be phat. First a comic, then the toys, then the movie.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/classicwolv.gif



Patience - wanna get everyone cool in their role - then the ball rolls

I'm working on building the action figure protoype, right now:up:
obviously so i can draw from it too

I'd love to see it mangafied as an animated movie someday -

I'm gonna get some money together for Poser


but first merchandise will be t-shirts, badge and figures

Smoke87
09-14-2005, 01:06 AM
Ok did page 4. I'll post all of them again I guess.

also, I edited one thing in the 2nd page, deadeye looking over his shoulder in the second to last panel. is this what you meant dedi?
2nd page
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg1-1.jpg
3rd page
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg2.jpg
4th page (new)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg3.jpg

I'll be working on the 5th one now.

triem23
09-14-2005, 02:01 AM
Right, another coloring.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/triem23/Triem_deadeye_dEDi.jpg

Smoke, as soon as you and deDI start calling the fight scene pages "done" I'll start coloring. (Who needs inks when you have photoshop?) The fight's shaping up nicely--Page 4 is super-sweet.

triem23
09-14-2005, 02:05 AM
trying to get back in my coloring groove.



http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/spideyfreak08/dedi5.jpg

nice job, spider you get better with pretty much every piece of yours I see.--But I'm thinking if you go back and do a highlights pass you can really get that to pop more, and the trailing edge of the headscarf and the darks on the boots is lost in the blue background..maybe a lighter blue. Are you using Photoshop, Painter, or PSP?

spiderfan08
09-14-2005, 07:08 AM
i am using PSP. thanx again triem. i had to get a dark backround for the glow.

deDIKnight
09-14-2005, 07:39 AM
I LOVE IT WHEN EVERYONE WORKS TOGETHER IN SYNERGY

Great advice everyones givng each other and I'm always learning too

Smoke EXCELLENT job on that fight scene except lil grumbles on a few panels


I'm gonna do a version how I envisaged it and You do it from that OK?

Just a few panels - the rest is goddamn AWESOME

I know I might be being a lil hardass on ya - but as creator and editor on the comic - I want everything to pop

And your talent is gonna get burnished and polished even more in that editorial fire

I'll do a few corrections to the panels I think need it - Using YOUR style on Psp

Then we'll go from there

But you really are a great artist and are getting better and better:)


Great Colouring again to Triem and spiderfan08 lookin good also lil guy

Great effort everyone

Smoke87
09-14-2005, 01:21 PM
ok dedi, thanks alot. Yeah, i think if I see exactly how you want it, it will be a lot easier for me.

Maxwinner
09-14-2005, 02:18 PM
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6185/at3blackvf3xq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2051/at3gfcnh5rp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Big Dirty Ogre
09-14-2005, 04:30 PM
personally, i don't think it's necessary to distort the image that much.

Maybe have him look like he's translucent energy, and save most of the distortion for the weapons.

Also, his eyes can have a more intense glow to them, perhaps leaving behind streaks of energy as they move.

Attatched is a very very rough pic of what i'm thinking of, for future reference.

deDIKnight
09-14-2005, 04:35 PM
Great idea BDO

Liking that ALOT

Big Dirty Ogre
09-14-2005, 04:45 PM
thanks, man.
I'll be on a lot tomorrow, and Saturday, and we can mull over more stuff.

That isn't to say your coloring wasn't great, Maxwinner. I just think his face(especially the eyes) and weapons should be the focal points.

The energy highlights in his body shouldn't obscure him so much.

triem23
09-14-2005, 05:41 PM
I did one more of BDO's last AT, with the revised linework posted.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/triem23/Triem_AT3_v3.jpg

I'm still working off that original BDO concept of the white lines in the red, circular energy field.

So, the AT drawings I've really been coloring thru automated processes, and I figure I'll share the basic working method here--this one was created in Photoshop 6, the other two (on the last page) in Photoshop CS. PSP and Painter users should be able to adapt this technique if they wanna steal it. Also, I share this information to attempt to narrow down the "final" looks for the characters, so we all end up on the same page.

I took BDO's linework and copied it to a new layer--used Select: Color Range to grab all the white and delete it, leaving just the black linework (BDO's linework is so crisp and bold that it seperates easily--this would be much hard to do with, say, smoke's pencils. No offense smoke, this is a technical issue, not artistic.).

I made a copy of the isolated linework and copied it to a fresh layer. Both copies were color inversed to give white lines

Again, using Select: Color Range, I selected all the linework, then, in the Paths menu selections "Convert Selection to Path."

I selected the smudge tool (I think that's the warp brush in PSP), set it to a size of 35 pixels and a strength of 35% (go figure) and selected "Stroke Path with brush"--this ran the smudge brush around all the edges of the artwork... I could have done this by hand (I did for an earlier BDO pic), but, working under the assumption that this project is going to succeed, I'm trying to come up with shortcuts to speed up the process. Working artist has to meet deadlines, you know.

Using Photoshop's layer styles, I assigned a glow to the linework. If you combine an outer glow with a drop shadow (set to 0px distance), both set to "screen" mode, you will get a more vibrant glow than just using the outer glow alone. Both glows are the same red, but you can see how the interaction of the glow and drop shadow lighten to form oranges and yellows.

Now, at this point, the smudging looked really good on the body and swords, but it muddied up the face. So I took my other copy of the linework, gave it the same layer style and put it on the top of the stack.

I used layer masks to remove the smudged linework in the face, and the unsmudged linework everywhere BUT the face.

The bubble is a black circle with the same layer style as the linework, but adding an inner glow and inner shadow as well.

Some touchups the the smudge layer were done by hand, just to get the bottom of AT (A straight line--the bottom of BDO's document) fit into the bottom of the bubble correctly.

I think that, overall, this method of combining smudged and unsmudged layers softens BDO's linework enough to give that feeling of translucent energy, without obscuring the detail. Also, since I've got it down to a largely automated process, if we end up going with this kind of look for AT, I can now color any AT picture (not counting backgrounds) in far less time than it took me to type this bulliten.

triem23
09-14-2005, 05:50 PM
One more thing, guys--can we all post up signature blocks or something? Not forum siggy's, but whatever you would use to sign some artwork. That way, when I color a Smoke or BDO or Campbell, or whoever piece, I can make sure that I get your name on it.

On the net, you never know who's going to download a drawing, and I'm a stickler for proper credit (I don't care so much about money--I want my bragging rights.)

This is the best idea I've had all week.

Just to get the ball rolling, here's my triem glyph--Three angled, interlocking letters "M" for my initials. (And now y'all know what "triem" means...23's a lucky number, Hail Eris.)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/triem23/TriemGlyphB.jpg
Make it Big and Bold, and high-contrast, because it's much easier to shrink pixel art and have it look good, than to enlarge it, and easier to seperate a good solid black from a white background. The glyph above is designed for a full-print-rez 600dpi page. I shrink it almost every time I use it

triem23
09-14-2005, 05:56 PM
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6185/at3blackvf3xq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I REALLY like the look of this one, Max, if you could just get the detail back into the face.

Son Of Logan
09-14-2005, 06:00 PM
This may be the wrong thread, but does anyone have tips on using PSP? I have it, but can work half the tools in it. I usually use Micrsoft Photodraw. I'm asking here, because I see the great result you guys are getting.

And I really like how that last pic came out for you, triem.

spiderfan08
09-14-2005, 06:08 PM
hey sonoflogan, there was a psp help thread. let me search and bump it for you. and thanx for the tut triem. i will try some things out.

Son Of Logan
09-14-2005, 06:15 PM
hey sonoflogan, there was a psp help thread. let me search and bump it for you. and thanx for the tut triem. i will try some things out.

Thanks, man. I've had that program for three years and hardly use it.

spiderfan08
09-14-2005, 07:03 PM
hope you guys like this.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/spideyfreak08/glowingdedi3.jpg

triem23
09-14-2005, 07:43 PM
Spider--that came out nicely.

Logan--thanks for the kind words.

Daffyboy69
09-15-2005, 04:10 AM
Hey, Paul, made it on with the wife's laptop, desktop still won't let me. Nice work here everybody!:D

Smoke87
09-15-2005, 05:09 AM
hello again guys. here with page 5.
This one was hard for me cuz I'm not use to drawing a head in this position, but I tried:O

anyway, here it is
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg4.jpg

and I will post the previous pages in links just in case.
Pg. 01http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg0.jpg
Pg. 02http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg1-1.jpg
Pg. 03 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg2.jpg
Pg. 04 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg3.jpg

thanks again.

Big Dirty Ogre
09-15-2005, 05:57 AM
One more thing, guys--can we all post up signature blocks or something? Not forum siggy's, but whatever you would use to sign some artwork. That way, when I color a Smoke or BDO or Campbell, or whoever piece, I can make sure that I get your name on it.

On the net, you never know who's going to download a drawing, and I'm a stickler for proper credit (I don't care so much about money--I want my bragging rights.)

This is the best idea I've had all week.

Just to get the ball rolling, here's my triem glyph--Three angled, interlocking letters "M" for my initials. (And now y'all know what "triem" means...23's a lucky number, Hail Eris.)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/triem23/TriemGlyphB.jpg
Make it Big and Bold, and high-contrast, because it's much easier to shrink pixel art and have it look good, than to enlarge it, and easier to seperate a good solid black from a white background. The glyph above is designed for a full-print-rez 600dpi page. I shrink it almost every time I use it


here's mine.

great job on the latest AT, btw.

triem23
09-15-2005, 02:53 PM
You know, of the last two AT's that Max colored, I'm looking at the really cloudy one (on the black background) and my brain is seeing the 2025 AT (Assuming he's not destroyed in the EDO period) infiltrating computer systems... Maybe it's because what Max did reminds me of the look of the Red Queen hologram in the Resident Evil movie.

Max, how DID you get that look?

BDO, thanks much for the icon and the comment--by some point later today all of my coloring of your stuff will mysteriously aquire signature blocks...

Smoke/DeDI what pages of the fight scene are considered "done," so I can get coloring those?

Also, at some point, as the project moves forward, we'll have to think about print-resolution artwork for deDI's pitch portfolio. Comic pages are 5.66 x 8.90 inches, I believe, but I don't remember how much room to add to each edge for full bleed (it's either 1/8th or 1/4 inch.).

Of course, in the "pro" world, the art is produced at double-size and reduced to sharpen the linework and (and hide the occasional flibbed line) and colored at final size at 600 dpi. 300 dpi will work well enough for our purposes. At 300 dpi, a 5.66 x 8.90 inch page translates to 1698 x 2670 pixels... much, much larger than the images we're doing for this thread.

Also for print work, the files should be saved as a TIFF, and not a JPEG (TIFFs are much, much larger files, but they don't have the compression artifacts and distortion of a JPEG).

AND, for printwork, you other color guys need to make sure you know the differences between and RGB color space (computer monitor) and CMYK color space (print). It's really easy in computer art do generate colors that you can't print accuratly, especially in the greens, so if you're NOT familiar with RGB vs. CMYK, then you'll need to do some research (If you intend on being a professional artist working in print, comic books, posters, cd covers, dvd boxes, whatever, you're going to need to know this stuff, anyway.)

Here's a link to start you off--this is a good, concise explanation of the basics.

http://dx.sheridan.com/advisor/cmyk_color.html

triem23
09-15-2005, 02:58 PM
hello again guys. here with page 5.
This one was hard for me cuz I'm not use to drawing a head in this position, but I tried:O

anyway, here it is
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Lee_san87/fightscene-pg4.jpg



If I felt like being anal retentive, I would say that the perspective and hinging of the lower jaw seems off--more like the top of the skull is flipping up rather than the mandible going down, but frankly, it looks much more monsterous and creepy like that. Plus it echoes some of the stuff in anime demons where they always tweak out the jaws.

Son Of Logan
09-15-2005, 02:58 PM
AND, for printwork, you other color guys need to make sure you know the differences between and RGB color space (computer monitor) and CMYK color space (print). It's really easy in computer art do generate colors that you can't print accuratly, especially in the greens, so if you're NOT familiar with RGB vs. CMYK, then you'll need to do some research (If you intend on being a professional artist working in print, comic books, posters, cd covers, dvd boxes, whatever, you're going to need to know this stuff, anyway.)

This really depends on the equipment doing the printing. And there are some programs that will switch between RBG and CMYK color schemes. Best thing to do is contact a printer before you start.

triem23
09-15-2005, 03:06 PM
This really depends on the equipment doing the printing. And there are some programs that will switch between RBG and CMYK color schemes. Best thing to do is contact a printer before you start.

Very true, different printers/processes do have different color spaces, and Photoshop will switch between RGB and CMYK color spaces, but just letting photoshop do the conversion can yield ugly surprises. Personally, I make sure that I'm using CMYK legal colors, based on my printer's ICC configuration, so I don't have too many problems moving from screen to print.

Problem is, it's a tricky subject, because even just saying RGB and CMYK is a simplification--there's RGB sRGB NTSC RGB, etc, and god only knows HOW many different CMYK profiles have been defined, and entire books have been written just on this topic.

Logan is right, you are best to talk to a printer, but you still need to learn the basics of RGB vs. CMYK color profiles to be able to communicate with your printer effectively.

Fortunatly, every single person on this board already has the greatest tool for finding information and educating yourself ever invented--the internet.

deDIKnight
09-15-2005, 03:08 PM
Hey, Paul, made it on with the wife's laptop, desktop still won't let me. Nice work here everybody!:D


Hey My kansas compadre!!!!! Good to see you at last

Why didnt you post your Stuff you did for the thread?

Its okay man I'll do it for you:up:

http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/1388/at14hj.jpg

a bit pink and rosy but that is an awesome drawing of the AT, J:) :up:

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4486/dedi25wc.jpg

Great Gaki ghostlike rendition of the AT spirit


A sketch of Sam Uri Yashida just after the explosion in the future storyhttp://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8168/yashida1gu.jpg

spiderfan08
09-15-2005, 03:25 PM
so what pages are done so we can start coloring them?

Big Dirty Ogre
09-15-2005, 04:46 PM
spiderfan, I like what you did on that AT coloring, man.


triem, are you still going to color in that caveman style DS?

I'm just curious.


I'll have more stuff up later today.