Superman Lives!

[Kevin Roegele]

http://members.aol.com/megadethdc/images/newlogo.jpg
Official logo design

What might have been.....

Intention here is to provide all possible information on Tim Burton's never made Superman movie.

The 'history of the production thread' -
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125321

http://www.superman-v.com/images/Superman_battle.jpg
Costume design by Bradford Richardson

Interview with lead graphic designer Bradford Richardson at
http://www.superman-v.com/interviews/bradfordrichardson.php

http://www.cinemaemcena.com.br/cinemacena/Geral/designproducao/superman5_01.jpg
Concept design for Superman's battle with an alien creature at the climax, possibly by Harald Belker

http://www.cinemaemcena.com.br/cinemacena/Geral/designproducao/superman5_02.jpg
Designs for Braniac's skull ship, also maybe by Harald Belker

[Kevin Roegele]

http://www.cagefactor.com/photos/art/art_nic-cage-as-superman.jpg
Nicolas cage as Superman by cagefactor.com

http://cagefactor.com/photos/conair/co_24_large.jpg

http://cagefactor.com/photos/conair/co_20_large.jpg

http://cagefactor.com/photos/the-rock/rock_12_large.jpg

What sold Warner Bros on Cage was his ability to play comedy nerds like Stanley Godspeed in The Rock (1995) and also badass action heroes like Cameron Poe in Con Air (1997).

[Metropolis_Man]

Thanks for the info and the pics. How do you think this movie would've set with general audiences? I always wish they would've made this but never released it, so we could at least see what might've been.

[Lazlo Panaflex]

Cage as Superman would've sucked, I liked him in Face/Off but that hill-billy accent he used in Con Air was distracting.

[idahoprime]

i have some art for this up at
http://www.kal-el.org/SL

and some flyby art too
http://www.kal-el.org/flyby

[HUMAN]

Summary of Dan Gilroy script:

The film starts on Krypton, where Jor-El is working on a computer called Brainiac. However, once Kal-El is born, Jor-El abandons his work to spend time with his son. Brainiac is jealous of Kal-El, so he destroys Krypton...but not before Kal-El escapes. Brainiac vows to hunt down Kal-El and kill him.

Flash forward 30 years. Lex Luthor's LexCorp company discovers that a UFO crash-landed in Smallville. Lois investigates the story and discovers that the shuttlecraft landed on the Kent farm, forcing Superman--who she's been having a full-blown affair with--to reveal his secret identity to her. (And since he has no clue to his origins, this whole spaceship thing comes as a shock to Superman.) Brainiac comes to Earth with Doomsday in tow, merges with Luthor to become "Lexiac," and takes over LexCorp. Luring Superman to the LexCorp tower, Lexiac sics Doomsday on the Man of Steel, and the two kill each other in battle. Lexiac then confiscates the world's nukes and tries to seduce Lois. Meanwhile, Superman is revived by "K," the still-living, combined essence of Jor-El and Lara. Initially powerless upon his rebirth, Superman uses sheer willpower to regain his lost powers. A final fight ensues, in which Superman separates Luthor and Brainiac with one second left on the nuclear clock. In the end, Superman becomes fully aware of his alien origins, saves the world...and finds out that Lois is pregnant with his kid!

[Darth Nata]

It will never happen but because Tim Burton wanted to direct Superman with Nicholas Cage and already directed Batman with Michael Keaton, how cool would the Batman vs Superman script written by Andrew Kevin Walker be with Burton, Keaton and Cage on board...

[Kevin Roegele]

I must be the only person who can see cage as Superman. I think he would have been great. He would have played Superman, not Nicolas Cage.

[Morg]

having Cage as Superman would had bombed the movie just like Berry did with CINO

[Kevin Roegele]

i have some art for this up at
http://www.kal-el.org/SL

and some flyby art too
http://www.kal-el.org/flyby

I've never been to kal-el.org before, it's very good.

[Kevin Roegele]

having Cage as Superman would had bombed the movie just like Berry did with CINO

I doubt it. It may have sucked, but it wouldn't have bombed.

[Morg]

yes it would

[Kevin Roegele]

yes it would

Tim 'Batman' Burton?
Directing Superman?
Nic Cage at the height of his action hero stage?

People would have seen it for curiousity alone.

Don't confuse quality with popularity.

[Showtime]

This movie would have been awful. I never wanted Tim Burton to touch Superman and Batmanize it. The Gilroy script was awful, Kevin Smith's version was much better. Batman vs Superman wouldn't have been as good as everyone thought. There were great moments in the script that were ruined by horrible scenes. Scene after Scene of Clark home in Smallville after Lois breaks up with him. He pours his heart out to Lana Lang. Then there are some great moments but Batman and Superman are not together enough in the script.

[Morg]

Tim 'Batman' Burton?
Directing Superman?
Nic Cage at the height of his action hero stage?

People would have seen it for curiousity alone.

Don't confuse quality with popularity.


the dead people of the people went to see it would stop them, I hated Cage a sSuperman and would had him shoot on sight

[cabel]

That is one scary looking S

[Cosmic]

I shudder to think of what this movie would've been like.

[boywonder13]

http://www.superman-v.com/reviews/gilroy.php

Heres a full scrip review from superman v.

[PSU442]

what was Superman Flyby? Was that Abrams' script? This is a great thread by the way. Great stuff posted here.

[PSU442]

ahh... i read the FlyBy reveiw. It sounds interesting, like Superman Lives but I'd hate for that to be the official cinematic representation of Superman. I like reading alternate storyline graphic novels too but I wouldn't want them to become offical.

[Showtime]

I am a huge Superman Lives fan. I would have loved to see that script made. I think the action was fantastic and the dialogue between Superman and Lois was classic. It would have worked at the time but I wouldn't want to see it developed now. It wouldn't work against Batman Begins or Spiderman 1&2.

[Metropolis_Man]

I am a huge Superman Lives fan. I would have loved to see that script made. I think the action was fantastic and the dialogue between Superman and Lois was classic. It would have worked at the time but I wouldn't want to see it developed now. It wouldn't work against Batman Begins or Spiderman 1&2.

Nicely put sir. I think for the date when it was first planned to be released, the story would've been really well, but now, we needed something better, and something that took a step up.

[Showtime]

Nicely put sir. I think for the date when it was first planned to be released, the story would've been really well, but now, we needed something better, and something that took a step up.

I think Kevin Smith included everything that needed to be covered. He had incredible battle scenes with Doomsday and Superman. He gave us a Superman that was without powers and to use other means to save earth. He also gave us the love story between Lois and Clark/Superman in a different way. In this version Lois knows about the alter ego.

[Whack Arnolds]

having Cage as Superman would had bombed the movie just like Berry did with CINODon't believe the bull**** you just said...Halle could have EASILY played Catwoman well, but she didn't have quality material to work from.

[mad-sci]

Abram's 1st draft (the much-derided one) can be found here (http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/Superman(JJAbrams).pdf)

It's dated 2002, so it's the Ty-Zor / non-exploding Krypton one and I can see why Moriaty from AICN hated it. There's is just so much that is bad here, and not that much good.

There's far too much story all rushed (in the space of 15 minutes, you go from Superman's interview with Lois, to a battle with a robot in Washington, to Superman the outcast, and the death).

You've also got some REALLY REALLY bad characterisation. Jonathon Kent's hardly in it, and his death is meaningless, Ma Kent is wasted, Jimmy is written like a 15 year old wimp, Perry is a complete caricature of J Jonah Jamseon with NO redeeming qualities, Lois is completely schizo (one minute a strong, independant woman, and less than 1 minute later a complete victim), but the worst character is Clark Kent / Superman. From the beginning of the film, Clark's portrayed as isolated, with little human contact. He grows up afraid of his abilities, forced to help because he has to, not because he wants to. Then, after his 'death', he does a complete 180 and is now a true hero???!!!

I can see this film would have had some decent action, but would have been a terrible story, because there's not a single person to care about here.

[batman strikes]

Sweet where did you find this. I've been wanted to read this thing for along time, just out curiosity of what it was like. I wonder why they called it Superman Flyby then, because this script is just titled Superman.

[Bishop2]

I think there was a later draft titled "Fly By."

Thanks very much for this. I just saved it and am anxious to read it.

[BenReilly19]

"FlyBy" was just the codename for the project, just like "Red Sun" was to Superman Returns and "The Intimidation Game" was to Batman Begins. I don't believe it was ever intended to be the actual title of the film.

[Katsuro]

Anyone find it funny that this script starts off at the film's climax, then jumps back to the beginning... just like Mission: Impossible III did?

[mad-sci]

Anyone find it funny that this script starts off at the film's climax, then jumps back to the beginning... just like Mission: Impossible III did?


I had the same thought when I saw MI:3. Apparently, Abram's uses the same device in his Alias show too.

[batman strikes]

Anyone find it interesting that with a major rewrite on this script, that this could be a prequel to Superman Returns. Just have change Ty-Zor into General Zod and make sure Krypton actually explodes, and you almost got yourself a prequel. After reading this script though, it makes me glad that Singer brought back the real Superman mythology. I know that Singer had this Returns story for along time though. Just out curiosity what actors were you guys imagining while reading this script.

[echostation]

Val Kilmer or Joquin Phoenix for Ty Zor

Brendan Gleason for Kata Zor

Hopkins for Jor-El was cast

Mathew Bomer for Superman

my question to you is, who should be cast as the buff and strong as hell (but as JJ Abrams describes her, the hottest girl in town if she were acutally from the town) ALTA... the gal who initially pummels the living hell outta Superman to the point where he's bloodied

[retconned]

This script was rewritten heavily by Josh Schwartz in the third draft, becoming far more faithful to the comics, althought still switching some stuff about the origin.

[batman strikes]

This script was rewritten heavily by Josh Schwartz in the third draft, becoming far more faithful to the comics, althought still switching some stuff about the origin.

Do you know some of the differences? Could you tell us some of them please? Like how they made it closer to the comics, and if they changed the villian, that sort of stuff.

[Bishop2]

Do you some of the differences? Could tell us some of them? Like how they made it closer to the comics, and if they changed the villian, that sort of stuff.

I can tell you some of the differences that came later... but in my opinion, they weren't that close to the comics at all.

1) Lex Luthor starts off as a shoe salesman in his 40s, around the time when Clark is in college. He encounters an alien pod that crash-lands from Krypton, and a symbiote attaches itself to him. Cut to 10 years later - Lex is now the highly successful owner of LEXCORP, a company he founded and turned into one of the biggest corporate enterprises around in less than a decade. Obviously, this is because the symbiote turns out to be an advanced Kryptonian scout that attached itself to Lex, giving him advanced alien technology that skyrocketd him in the field.

2) In order to explain the origin of Kryptonite, the evil brother's attack on Jor-El's royal palace and city ends up breaking a big chunk of the planet OFF of Krypton. The planet is still mostly intact, but one big chunk now orbits freely in space. As a result, small chunks from the explosion follow Clark's ship to earth...

3) Superman no longer gets a funeral. He dies at the NASA compound and is left for dead, but wakes up within like half an hour now, instead of being buried and such.

Other than that, I don't know any other changes.

I've never read this original draft... but my god, it's awful. I can't believe that Clark Kent actually took SUPERCRAPS when he was a baby. Seriously?! His diapers had ultra-smelly SUPERCRAPS?! This is ridiculous.

[echostation]

Batman Strikes

I came up with a possible cast in answer to your question, what would your cast be? also who would you cast as Alta in answer to my question?

[batman strikes]

Batman Strikes

I came up with a possible cast in answer to your question, what would your cast be? also who would you cast as Alta in answer to my question?

This is who I was imagining while reading the script.

Matthew Bomer-Clark Kent/Superman (although it was kinda hard because I kept picturing Brandon Routh hahaha)

Lois Lane-Keri Russell mostly because of Abrams writing the script

Perry White-Christopher Walken he was rumored for the part

Jimmy Olsen-Adam Brody

Ty-Zor-Joaquin Phoenix I really think that he would of been great in this role and no I'm not just copying you.

Kata-Zor-I couldn't come up with anyone reading the script, but I liked your Idea about Brendan Gleeson.

Jor-El-Anthony Hopkins

Lex Luthor-This was a hard one because I couldn't see Ralph Fiennes playing this Lex Luthor or Kevin Spacey for that matter (they seem more of Buisness type Lex to me). Don't laugh (actually it might be pretty funny) but because of the whole CIA angle and with Lex wearing a black suit like Agent Smith I actually kept picturing Hugo Weaving for that particular characterization of Lex.

Martha Kent-Someone who wasn't around 30 or 40 but someone around 50 or 60 so you could believe that there about late 60's early 70's when Clark is 29.

Jonathan Kent-Same

For Alta I have know clue, I kept thinking of Ursa from Superman II. But from the description she was given, I would find someone who's not that big of an actor because she dosen't talk at all in the script. sorry if that's not a good enough answer. I tryed.

By the way Bishop2 thanks for telling me some of differences. This script was a good read but unless they gave this script major rewrite to make it closer to the comics then I wouldn't want to see it on screen. You just have to appreciate what Bryan Singer did with this project turning from just an action picture to something with heart and just giving us a real Superman Movie.


Bring on SUPERMAN RETURNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

[Excel]

actually the third draft has JOR-EL as the villain with supermans evil brother in place of ty zor....

[batman strikes]

Jor-El as the Villian? are you serious, that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard. Did you get to read this draft or did someone tell you about it?

[Bishop2]

Jor-El as the Villian? are you serious, that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard. Did you get to read this draft or did someone tell you about it?

Hey, Jor-El's been a bad guy on Smallville for some time now... even though he's dead, he's still doing all kinds of evil crap from beyond the grave.

Of course, Smallville blows. But I'm just sayin'. The concept's already out there.

[Drewsillac]

Anyone know where to get a 2nd Draft...the so called "Flyby" script...???

Anyone, anyone?

[JackBauer]

ugh, I was already thining it'd be pretty bad, but this was even worse than I thought it'd be.

[mercureyx]

Hey,

Does anyone know where I can find the vector image that someone made of this symbol:

http://www.superman-v.com/images/gilroyslives.jpg

It was really perfect and was posted somewhere in these forums months ago, and I'm not able to find it. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

[pwl4life]

you mean this one?
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1526/shirt5nr.jpg

I refined that design for my own personal supes' shield.
Pm me if interested int he vector image i did

[boywonder13]

WOW! I'm so happy that it's online!!! :)

[mercureyx]

PM sent

[sag002]

cool symbol. its the one from electric supes costume right?

[SUPERSEBAS]

Hey,

Does anyone know where I can find the vector image that someone made of this symbol:

http://www.superman-v.com/images/gilroyslives.jpg

It was really perfect and was posted somewhere in these forums months ago, and I'm not able to find it. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

I made this one some time ego!!! maybe can help you!!!!:)

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3038/3shild4sn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[sag002]

Dude!! Sweet!!!!!!!!!

[mercureyx]

That's really cool man! The version that I was talking about wasn't three dimensional though...

-Ian

[KnightBat]

I always liked this version of the S logo.

[mizzaxer]

WOW someone actually made thier own supes suit...and they wear it!!! hahah what a foolish loserrrlll

[fabman]

sorry, for 'reviving' this 1 year old topic. but to be honest, i would've liked to see what tim burton could have come up with nic cage as superman.

[captain_jimbo]

Cage as Superman would've sucked, I liked him in Face/Off but that hill-billy accent he used in Con Air was distracting.

Sucked doesn't even cover it, he'd have been f**king s***e! He's one of the most wooden actors I've ever seen. Why in the hell did they ever think of him for Superman? :huh:

[fabman]

nic cage is no way a wooden actor!

[AndrewGilkison]

http://www.screentalk.biz/scripts/supermanlives-20Sep98.pdf

Anyone read this yet?

[echostation]

http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/6734/sl1kp8.jpg

http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/6958/sl2af4.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/305/sl4ze5.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5154/sl3vr8.jpg

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/1076/sl5nd2.jpg

YOU LIKE????

[Super Kal]

no...

[Kevin Roegele]

Cyberpunk Superman.

[KnightBat]

Those are really interesting echostation. Where did u get them? Do you have more? If so please post them.

[echostation]

i can't reveal where I got the pics from... suffice to say, I'm surprised more people haven't responded to this topic since these are some of the newest unseen production art from the aborted Superman Lives project

[Super Kal]

all those pics came from the LUITS Superman Documentary...

[BatFitz]

http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/6734/sl1kp8.jpg

http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/6958/sl2af4.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/305/sl4ze5.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5154/sl3vr8.jpg

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/1076/sl5nd2.jpg

YOU LIKE????

I don't even know if they could've done that back in 1998

[Binker]

Hey guys, question: could someone make me the LIVES S-shield, 800x600?

[Andy C.]

Ah, good old 'Edward Super-Hands.' Every morning, I wake up and breathe a sigh of relief that this movie never happened.

[captain_jimbo]

Me too.

[captain_jimbo]

...And Batman & Robin is partly to thank, because it did so badly Warners dropped the idea of doing any other Superhero films for the foreseeable future.

[Retroman]

Wow though they're as weird as heck i think those pieces of production art are awfully cool! Thanks for posting them echostation.:cool: :up:
Those are really interesting echostation. Where did u get them? Do you have more? If so please post them.
I'm wondering the same thing.
all those pics came from the LUITS Superman Documentary...
Que? LUITS?:huh: :huh:

[Andy C.]

Que? LUITS?:huh: :huh:

Look! Up in the Sky!, the documentary that came out this summer right around the release of SR.

[Binker]

Here is a youtube 20-min vid of Kevein Smith of his work on Superman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk&

Interesting and funny.

[Andy C.]

Indeed. Reminds me of how awful most movies were in the 90s.

[Retroman]

Look! Up in the Sky!, the documentary that came out this summer right around the release of SR.
Thanks for enlightning me. I've not had the pleasure of seeing Look Up in The Sky yet. When i get the ultimate dvd set in a few weeks time i'll finally be able to check it out myself.:yay:

Its good to hear that they acknowledged one of the many aborted projects in that documentary.I wish though that they also included a bonus disc on the SR dvd solely devoted to the tumultuous 17 years (and over 40 million dollars) of development hell.I've always been intruigued by the previous attempts, what could have been.

[AndrewGilkison]

I just finished reading Dan Gilroy's script, and it is as bad as that SupermanV.com reviewer said it was. Count me in the "I am glad this never got made" pile as well.

[Antonello Blueberry]

I just finished reading Dan Gilroy's script, and it is as bad as that SupermanV.com reviewer said it was. Count me in the "I am glad this never got made" pile as well.
Do you have it in digital format? Can you share it?

[AndrewGilkison]

Do you have it in digital format? Can you share it?

I posted a link to it a few posts up, in this very thread. It's on a PDF file though.

[Antonello Blueberry]

I posted a link to it a few posts up, in this very thread. It's on a PDF file though.
Thanks

[echostation]

does anyoe know where I can see the youtube or some online video of Kevin Smith talking about his documentary on Prince? I can't find it on youtube anywhere

[Binker]

Here's an extra, Kevin Smith talks about Tim Burton:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKbAEmvZyKQ

[Retroman]

Another piece that was apparently shown in the Look, Up in the Sky! documentary.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/549/sinvolvementci3.jpg


Source: http://dvd.monstersandcritics.com/reviews/article_1177582.php

[Retroman]

Kerry Gammill has added some colorized versions of designs he did for Superman Lives on his site. Theres a few pieces there that i've not seen before.

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1760/wtripodic7.jpg

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/839/wdd1qa5.jpg

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/2818/wkillersws9.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5142/dd6rx2.jpghttp://img487.imageshack.us/img487/4792/scan003uu5.jpg

Superman Lives
These designs were done for an unproduced movie "Superman Lives" starring Nicolas Cage and directed by Tim Burton. It was to be based on the comic book story of the death and rebirth of Superman. It was cancelled in pre-production when Burton left the project. These designs are not connected with the movie "Superman Returns" which is currently in production.


Source: http://gammillustrations.bizland.com/monsterart/supelives.htm

[Retroman]

Also found two pieces artist Brom did of Brainiac's menagerie for Edge FX.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5391/never04fz7.jpghttp://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9039/never05ba2.jpg


Source (Click on Folio then on Never Before Seen): http://www.edgefx.net/home.htm

[SUPERSEBAS]

Chris Reeve with the Superman Lives Costume!

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/43168788/

[FreeRadical]

Kerry Gammill has added some colorized versions of designs he did for Superman Lives on his site. Theres a few pieces there that i've not seen before.

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1760/wtripodic7.jpg

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/839/wdd1qa5.jpg

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/2818/wkillersws9.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5142/dd6rx2.jpghttp://img487.imageshack.us/img487/4792/scan003uu5.jpg

Superman Lives
These designs were done for an unproduced movie "Superman Lives" starring Nicolas Cage and directed by Tim Burton. It was to be based on the comic book story of the death and rebirth of Superman. It was cancelled in pre-production when Burton left the project. These designs are not connected with the movie "Superman Returns" which is currently in production.


Source: http://gammillustrations.bizland.com/monsterart/supelives.htm

:wow: They look like generic XBOX 360 first person shooter monster designs!

[batman strikes]

I really want to see a picture of of Nicolas Cage in the updated classic Superman costume, that they made for him at time. From the description I read it sounded kind of cool. By the way, I'm not talking about the Black and Silver suit he was going to wear, I hated those designs.

[Antonello Blueberry]

I really want to see a picture of of Nicolas Cage in the updated classic Superman costume, that they made for him at time. From the description I read it sounded kind of cool. By the way, I'm not talking about the Black and Silver suit he was going to wear, I hated those designs.
The red and blue costume? Yes, and I would like to see the screen test of him flying, too.

[Darkest Knight]

Movies were so damn bad in the 90's. haha

So much corny, cliched stuff.

[Darkest Knight]

Here's an extra, Kevin Smith talks about Tim Burton:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKbAEmvZyKQ
****ing CLASSIC.

[captain_jimbo]

Another piece that was apparently shown in the Look, Up in the Sky! documentary.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/549/sinvolvementci3.jpg


Source: http://dvd.monstersandcritics.com/reviews/article_1177582.php

Wow, I've seen the Look up in the sky documentary, and I don't remember this bit.

[bat89]

I've read the script by Kevin Smith and it was pretty good. With a few characters and plot details taken out, it could have been a good movie especially if Bryan Singer directed it. Does anyone agree?

[Sam Fisher]

Kevin Smith is overrated.

[El Payaso]

Very much.

[Travis K]

Where did you read the script?

Bryan Singer s overrated.

[bat89]

Kevin is a little overrated come to think about it, but he wrote a good script.

[bat89]

Where did you read the script?

Bryan Singer s overrated.

Just type in Superman Lives and it'll come up.

[Kevin Roegele]

I've read the script by Kevin Smith and it was pretty good. With a few characters and plot details taken out, it could have been a good movie especially if Bryan Singer directed it. Does anyone agree?

The movie would not have been like the script, Burton ditched it.

I would have loved to have seen Burton's movie though, and especially Cage as Supes.

[matthooper]

I've read the script by Kevin Smith and it was pretty good. With a few characters and plot details taken out, it could have been a good movie especially if Bryan Singer directed it. Does anyone agree?


I actually think Singer might have been ok since the script was written by someone who knew who Superman was. That was the problem with Supeman Returns, it was written by people with a fundemental lack of understanding for the character. Singer is not a bad director, he just directed a bad film because of the script. Of course, he had input in the script so that was one of the problems.

If he could have just directed the KS script with no injection of his own personal feelings into the script, we might have had a cool film...but probably not.

[Antonello Blueberry]

The movie would not have been like the script, Burton ditched it.

I would have loved to have seen Burton's movie though, and especially Cage as Supes.

Did you read the script Burton was going to shoot?

[Kevin Roegele]

Did you read the script Burton was going to shoot?

You mean the Wesley Strick 'Lexiac' script? I didn't like it as much as the Kevin Smith version.

[Antonello Blueberry]

You mean the Wesley Strick 'Lexiac' script? I didn't like it as much as the Kevin Smith version.
I have the Dan Girloy one and it's a mess.
The Kevin Smith version could have been improved (like in the characterization of Lex) but it wasn't bad.

[Showtime]

I thought Kevin Smith did a good job with Lois and Superman's interaction but the script itself was average.

[Kevin Roegele]

I thought Kevin Smith did a good job with Lois and Superman's interaction but the script itself was average.

Action adventure is just not his forte, as he'll happily admit.

[ChocheTheHero]

Kevin Roegele, one of my phrases is in your signature... Why? :P

[Showtime]

Action adventure is just not his forte, as he'll happily admit.

I think I have heard him admit it, he is good for what he does do right though.

[Kevin Roegele]

I think I have heard him admit it, he is good for what he does do right though.

He said it when he turned down directing Green Hornet.

[Kevin Roegele]

Kevin Roegele, one of my phrases is in your signature... Why? :P

Because it's funny. :) But I'll get rid of it if you want.

[ChocheTheHero]

Kevin Roegele, don´t worry. It makes me... Happy :D
Long live to the Jeremy´s hotdog xDDDDDDD

[The Shredder]

I would have had a curiosity (perhaps morbid) to see the flick. Cage as Supes would have been .... different. But maybe interesting in some ways as well. Agreed on Smith's script being superior to that of Burton's final shooting Wesley Strick script.

[batman strikes]

I would have had a curiosity (perhaps morbid) to see the flick. Cage as Supes would have been .... different. But maybe interesting in some ways as well. Agreed on Smith's script being superior to that of Burton's final shooting Wesley Strick script.

I thought the Dan Gilroy script was the final draft before Burton left the project. Because if I remember correctly the studio hated that draft and told Burton to have it changed. Anyways could someone review Wesley Strick's draft because I have no idea what the basic storyline for that script was.

[Kevin Roegele]

I thought the Dan Gilroy script was the final draft before Burton left the project. Because if I remember correctly the studio hated that draft and told Burton to have it changed. Anyways could someone review Wesley Strick's draft because I have no idea what the basic storyline for that script was.

Yeah, WB made Burton change the script continuously. He went through four or five writers as I recall.

I would have had a curiosity (perhaps morbid) to see the flick. Cage as Supes would have been .... different. But maybe interesting in some ways as well. Agreed on Smith's script being superior to that of Burton's final shooting Wesley Strick script.

I've been fascinated by the project ever since 1997, when I was telling everybody that Cage was the new Superman. It would have been extremely unique. I must be the one person in the world who though Cage as Supes was a fantastic idea. He's nothing like the typical Superman, but as a different, Elseworlds version of Superman if you like, I loved the idea.

I'm still toying with the idea of novelising Kevin Smith's script, or drawing some pages as comicbook pages, or something. It's almost an obsession.

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[Abaddon]

wasn't Lex a Kryptonian in the script?

[The Shredder]

wasn't Lex a Kryptonian in the script?
No. I believe you're thinking of JJ Abrams first draft script.

[KrypJonian]

Kevin- Do you happen to know how I could get my hands on the Strick or Gilroy scripts? I've always wanted to read them, but only found reviews...:csad: