View Full Version : Stewart X3 Surprise
cookiva
09-10-2005, 03:31 AM
I just posted my thoughts on the surprise in the Fear and Loathing board, but i fear and loathe that it will get lost among the quarreling. Here is my post.
You know what ive been throwing around? The idea that Gambit is the great surprise Stewart talked about. Filming his scene could be something done in one filming session. They could bring in a nobody, someone scruffy, who people looking on the set might think is a crew member until he goes inside. Its not an expensive scene, like Sentenels or Danger Room. Something like that would get noticed when the budget went out, yet listing our "mystery man" as an extra would not get noticed. I know it sounds weird, but hey, it would be a surprise.
I dont know if there was already a thread about it. I looked up to the 3rd page of threads, and couldnt find one, so i started a new one. If there was one, Im sorry.
Demon Within
09-10-2005, 03:35 AM
I posted mine in "fear" thread as well about Magneto taking over the Xmen after X dies and how that would be a cool surprise. Another "suprise" that usually happens to X is he gets his legs back and either dies and manages to get them paralyzed again. maybe he gets them back and thats the surprise then he dies. that wouldnt be that cool tho
cookiva
09-10-2005, 03:38 AM
Or maybe it is something innane, like Jean Grey coming back. I would be so pissed off if that was the surprise.
Demon Within
09-10-2005, 03:43 AM
Nah hes smarter then that to say theres a surprise then it end up being something that was so very obvious in the second one.whatever it is i hope its not lame. Maybe he does a little battling, now that would be a surprise.
cookiva
09-10-2005, 03:47 AM
But we agree on the fact that it must be something small, something that could be overlooked on the large amount of time spent filming. If its a character, be it new, changed, or changing sides, it must be something quick, so that people who are able to roam the Estate cannot get suspicious.
HexualCirce
09-10-2005, 03:54 AM
Well, I don't think thst the "suprise" would have to take place at the mansion, or did he actually say that? Remember that Jean's death was the big suprise and kept under wraps during the X2 shoot and that was NOT small.
Demon Within
09-10-2005, 04:00 AM
Well, I don't think thst the "suprise" would have to take place at the mansion, or did he actually say that? Remember that Jean's death was the big suprise and kept under wraps during the X2 shoot and that was NOT small.
whats your guess then?
cookiva
09-10-2005, 04:01 AM
Thats true, its just that they decided to show her as the Pheonix when filming was almost over. This is one of the first things they filmed, and since they didnt have it in the script, it must be near the end. This means, hopefully, some sort of continuity for a possible 4th. Also, some of the other surprises brought up include Sentenels, Danger Room, Apocolypse, etc... All of these are too expensive to be covered up, and Apocolypse would just be ruined at this point and time. The thing is, is that Sentenels or DR would cost too much money just to be labeled "Set Design" or something along the nature of that. But, I do agree that it might have been outside. Its possible, but I think for one short scene, it might be more likely that its in the Mansion. I mean, how many scenes were outside in the first 2? I think something like the DR is more likely to be a surprise than Sentenels. For them, you would pretty much have a large amout of people outside, with alot of extras actually acting. I think that the DR could be kept on the dl (heheh), as only a select few of the cast would know about it.
Lisea
09-10-2005, 05:28 AM
Stewart isn't fan enough to call Gambit a "great surprise". The great surprise will most likely be a major plot twist with enough special effects to cost a ****load. Gambit does not fit this bill.
Avalanche
09-10-2005, 07:53 AM
I presumed the surprises would have been some of the deaths, even though they aren't really surprises at all to many of us.
NocturnalMadman
09-10-2005, 07:54 AM
But it's already been filmed at the "mansion" so...that kinda limits what it could be
Jan Irisi
09-10-2005, 08:36 AM
The surprise is that Data makes a cameo appearance? Maybe?
*runs off giggling*
afmvdp
09-10-2005, 08:41 AM
you all are forgetting that only a conversation scene is what was filmed at the mansion. If they want to use it to introduce a character or sentinels for instance all it would take in that "unscripted scene" is to have them turn on and be watching something happening on tv, or something coming across a computer screen. Thats all that would be filmed there, and then when the other scene to be shown is filmed it gets edited into that scene. Post production is where ALOT of work takes place, right now they are just filming the setups.
Electrix
09-10-2005, 08:43 AM
I think Stewarts suprise is...
Boo!
Lisea
09-10-2005, 09:06 AM
The surprise is that Data makes a cameo appearance? Maybe?
*runs off giggling*Isn't Data's head supposed to be on Earth at this time period anyway? There's your sentinel right there. :p
I posted mine in "fear" thread as well about Magneto taking over the Xmen after X dies and how that would be a cool surprise. Another "suprise" that usually happens to X is he gets his legs back and either dies and manages to get them paralyzed again. maybe he gets them back and thats the surprise then he dies. that wouldnt be that cool tho
I always thought that would be an awesome turn of events.I posted this somewhere else,but I'll say it again.To have Xavier die and have Mags lead the X-Men would be awesome.Read the last pages of Uncanny #200,if you want to know how it happened in the comics.It's a real touching moment.
Now if Mags fulfills his dying friend's wish,it would be cool to see Mystique and the rest of the Brotherhood leave Mags.Maybe form the Freedom Force with the gov't perhaps later on?This could be their way of getting back at Magneto for betraying them while having the whole "mutant hunters for the gov't" as a cover for their true intentions.
Let's say Xavier does die.Another way this could play out:Phoenix could possibly rejuvenate him to bring him back to life.However,Jean must sacrifice her own life if she goes thru with this.Jean dies.Xavier returns but is physically and mentally weak,so he must stay on Muir Island to recooperate until he becomes well again.
The Apocalypse
09-10-2005, 01:21 PM
I really don't think that Xavier is going to die in the mansion, and I don't think Magneto will take over the X-Men because he might be the leader of The Brotherhood. I think the nice suprise will be Jugs breaking into the mansion and then we might see the Colossus Jugs fight.
I really don't think that Xavier is going to die in the mansion, and I don't think Magneto will take over the X-Men because he might be the leader of The Brotherhood. I think the nice suprise will be Jugs breaking into the mansion and then we might see the Colossus Jugs fight.
He already is the Leader of the Brotherhood.No one stated Xavier was going to die at the mansion.
The Apocalypse
09-10-2005, 01:49 PM
I know both of those things, but I thought I saw it said that the suprise was already flimed, and they did film at the mansion.
cookiva
09-10-2005, 02:11 PM
Ok, like I said before, it would be idiotic for Ratner to film a "surprise" like Juggernaut vs. Colossus or Sentinels at the mansion. That would be done in a studio, where they could copy parts of the mansion, so they could have things break. The wont tear down walls in the mansion itself for one scene. Secondly, I really like what one poster said awhile ago about watching the Sentinels on TV. They could fight them later, but a big surprise would be the beginning of the movie, to see a Sentinel pop down in front of a camera.
Beastbone
09-10-2005, 03:00 PM
Ok, like I said before, it would be idiotic for Ratner to film a "surprise" like Juggernaut vs. Colossus or Sentinels at the mansion. That would be done in a studio, where they could copy parts of the mansion, so they could have things break. The wont tear down walls in the mansion itself for one scene. Secondly, I really like what one poster said awhile ago about watching the Sentinels on TV. They could fight them later, but a big surprise would be the beginning of the movie, to see a Sentinel pop down in front of a camera.
Also, bearing in mind that whatever was filmed isn't necessarily at the "beginning" of the movie, yes... I agree. Something like this is closer to what the surprise might be. It's gotta take place at the mansion and it's gotta come through dialogue.
Gambit is a possibility.
Sentinels also.
Even though both have been officially debunked from the film. Hmmm. I'm always a fan of Magneto taking over the X-Men. However, this couldn't be the case because Ian's still at Da Vinci. Magneto HAS to be in that scene. I'm at a loss really. And I'm thankful of that, too. Hopefully this will be something that none of us see coming.
BB
ichorinmyveins
09-11-2005, 07:15 AM
Not everyone is thinking about Gambit. This surprise whatever it is must be something for general viewers, not only for Gambit fans.
cookiva
09-11-2005, 01:44 PM
But Stewart said it at a convention. Im thinking that not many people that would be considered the general public go to conventions. Its gotta be something like a character appearing, one dying, etc...
The Guard
09-11-2005, 01:49 PM
Wouldn't it be hilarious if the surprise was something like Jean's return as Phoenix?
cookiva
09-11-2005, 01:54 PM
I said the same thing, word for word, awhile ago. I know that Stewart isnt that stupid. Enspecially telling it to a CON crowd. They, along with us, will be watching for the surprise.
cookiva
11-11-2005, 01:25 AM
Remember Stewarts surprise!!!
Looking back on it, got any new suggestions?
Antonello Blueberry
11-11-2005, 01:33 AM
I know what the surprise is:
During the sex scene Wolverine finds out Storm is really a man on the notes of "The crying game"
HexualCirce
11-11-2005, 03:02 AM
whats your guess then?
My guess is nothing.
My guess is that I'm not going to try to figure out the suprise so when I see the movie I can be suprised.
Quing
11-11-2005, 03:27 AM
Given the crowd that he was addressing at the time, it's got to be something from the comics that a comic fan would appreciate and fine surprising. Gambit maybe... there was that period where they made a point of not talking about him, which would suggest that they have something to hide. And just because they say it isn't happening, it doesn't necessarily mean that it is so. They could just be trying to throw people off.
Since it's Patrick Stewart we're talking about, chances are it has something to do with his character. So I think that we may see him walk. Perhaps in the flashback.
lazerustheduck
11-11-2005, 03:47 AM
Patrick isn't a big comic book fan so what he would consider a big suprise is not the same as a fans idea about a big suprise. I just think he's talking about the death.
logansoldcigar
11-11-2005, 05:13 AM
I would be absolutely amazed if the big surprise is either Gambit or pheonix.
IMO, to have Gambit (or a cameo by any character) as surprise so great it wasnt in the script would just be a massive disappointment , and I think the ending of X2 clearly implies, even to the general audience, that not everything was as it seemed with Jeans death.
If i were a betting man, i would make it one of the deaths is different to those weve heard rumours of, although i think some form of sentinel (just not 50ft tall pink and purple robots, pleeeaaasseeeee) would be quite groovy
lazerustheduck
11-11-2005, 06:27 AM
(just not 50ft tall pink and purple robots, pleeeaaasseeeee)
Pink purple and very shiny.
Sentinels built for mutant eradication and your pleasure.
Kanon
11-11-2005, 11:14 AM
I think the surprise is Magneto's mutation-inducing machine from X1 being the trigger of Jean releasing her powers. It's not a biiiiiiiiiiig surprise, but it's not that obvious
EnSabahNur
11-11-2005, 12:58 PM
maybe that million that was wasted on that scene that got cut or whatever was a cover up excuse for the expense of a gambit scene hmmm?
Angry Sentinel
11-11-2005, 01:10 PM
I know what the surprise is:
During the sex scene Wolverine finds out Storm is really a man on the notes of "The crying game" Once again LMAO!!
Remember Stewarts surprise!!!
Looking back on it, got any new suggestions?
I believe the word you were looking for was ....BUMP :up:
Lazmarquez
11-11-2005, 01:16 PM
I think it's the death. Stewart would mainly discuss things that focus more on his character. I've been a fan of his for a long time and believe to understand how he works, so thats my best educated answer. It's the death.
Weadazoid
11-11-2005, 01:51 PM
It s a nice surprise for fans... so what could it be
hmm..
Havock, Cyclops Brother who has been absent thus far.
Very true it could well be Mags taking over the team at the end.
We have of course the other surprises, perhaps Sentinals
Perhaps something like Apocalypse or Sinister.
Perhaps they take it one step even further Scott dies but jean is left with his child
Angry Sentinel
11-11-2005, 02:02 PM
Edit...
Perhaps they take it one step even further Scott dies but jean is left with his child :eek:
Xmen 3: The Young Mutant and the Restless
Xmen 3: Mutant days of our Lives
EnSabahNur
11-11-2005, 02:05 PM
Xmen 3: The Bold and the Mutiefull
TNC9852002
11-11-2005, 03:05 PM
In the original thread/article I thought I remembered him talking about new scenes that weren't even written anywhere in the original script drafts or something like that, so, it could be anything I guess..
-TNC
EnSabahNur
11-11-2005, 03:07 PM
Maybe it will be Blob, Oh how I love Blob!
OobeDoobBenubi
11-11-2005, 03:32 PM
In the original thread/article I thought I remembered him talking about new scenes that weren't even written anywhere in the original script drafts or something like that, so, it could be anything I guess..
-TNC
I actually remember reading that 2
cookiva
11-11-2005, 03:34 PM
I actually remember reading that 2
Ya, he said something like "Its such a secret/surprise, that the writers have not written it in the scripts."
In the original thread/article I thought I remembered him talking about new scenes that weren't even written anywhere in the original script drafts or something like that, so, it could be anything I guess..
-TNC
Yep,glad to hear there's still shtuff we don't know.
MoPlaYa43
11-11-2005, 04:09 PM
I`m sure there is alot we dont know....we will find out May 26th 2006 :cyclops: :wolverine :xmen:
Specter313
11-11-2005, 04:25 PM
Ya, he said something like "Its such a secret/surprise, that the writers have not written it in the scripts."
Which makes me think that it can't be anything really elaborate. They can't have too many lines going on, because it would take awhile for them to memorize it if they had alot. It makes me think that it's going to be a small hint like the Phoenix at the end of X2 and the majority of it be special effects driven.
lazerustheduck
11-11-2005, 04:54 PM
Which makes me think that it can't be anything really elaborate. They can't have too many lines going on, because it would take awhile for them to memorize it if they had alot. It makes me think that it's going to be a small hint like the Phoenix at the end of X2 and the majority of it be special effects driven.
What like the removal of the x-mansion roof and having a big robot looking in as a precursor to X4.
Specter313
11-11-2005, 04:57 PM
What like the removal of the x-mansion roof and having a big robot looking in as a precursor to X4.
Exactamundo.
cookiva
11-11-2005, 04:58 PM
Exactamundo.
That might be a lil too big. Im thinking something more along the lines of a red dotted forehead popping out of the dark.
Sents would be sweet though
aaron
11-11-2005, 06:14 PM
im not sure if stewart knows enough about comics and the x-world to say that gambit in x3 would be a surprise
BigMac
11-11-2005, 06:16 PM
We have to realize that Stewart doesn't know much about the x-universe. It won't be something too fanboy, because he doesn't know anything about it. I doubt he has ever heard of Mr. Sinister. As for the giant robots; if they make the Sentinals taller than 9 feet, it will be too much.
OobeDoobBenubi
11-11-2005, 06:24 PM
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6797/untitled6yq.gif
"Surprise"
GreatWhiteWhale
11-11-2005, 07:16 PM
The surpise will be something like the X-Men discovering that Xavier put mental blocks on Jean and they feel that they can't trust them anymore so they confront him and he knocks them all out with his powers and rolls out the door.
xwolverine2
11-11-2005, 07:24 PM
maybe the movie will have 5 different endings like CLUE to please everyone!
lol...j/k
cookiva
01-30-2006, 10:40 PM
Bump?...
because of the Cyke surprise in Kinbergs post in Xverse...
sebaa
01-30-2006, 10:55 PM
im wondering what is the stewart surprise!
TNC9852002
01-30-2006, 11:03 PM
Don't!...You could ruin it!.. :p
-TNC
bosef982
01-31-2006, 12:12 AM
What was the Cyke's surprize?
the Firestarter
01-31-2006, 12:17 AM
i don't know what the cyke suprise is... but i would guess it is that cyclops did not die in the beginning of the film. maybe he returns at the end to help jean regain control.
The Shredder
01-31-2006, 12:34 AM
Cyclops disappears at the beginning of the film, but later returns at the end?
Sounds plausible.
Wouldnt be any different than X2. :o
the Firestarter
01-31-2006, 12:36 AM
or maybe it's that the pheonix makes professor x grow hair. only to take it away from him in the end.
RedIsNotBlue
01-31-2006, 12:43 AM
Can we stop the Gambit speculation?? He isn't in...period. I think one of the surprises is Sentinels.
the Firestarter
01-31-2006, 12:59 AM
i doubt gambit will be in it ... but it would be a nice, easy & inexpensive addition that would greatly please the x-fans. if i were behind the movie i would slip in a small cameo during the (alcatraz) prison break scene. only fans would be able to identify gambit... and his character could be developed & introduced in a future installment without taking anything away from either picture. with a short cameo nobody would even notice that the actors might be different in two films.
logansoldcigar
01-31-2006, 03:27 AM
but it wouldnt please most of them. what we would get then is a torrent of inane wibbling about how it isnt right that he only gets a cameo when some of the others got lines. How we didnt see his "trademark" (insert something to do with the character here). How we didnt get to see him steal rogue from iceman. How we didnt this and how we didnt that, and its just not fair (add infinitum)
Proteus-X312
01-31-2006, 05:00 AM
It s a nice surprise for fans... so what could it be
hmm..
Havock, Cyclops Brother who has been absent thus far.
Very true it could well be Mags taking over the team at the end.
We have of course the other surprises, perhaps Sentinals
Perhaps something like Apocalypse or Sinister.
Perhaps they take it one step even further Scott dies but jean is left with his childIt could be Sinister because in another thread it was mentioned that Dr.Kavita Rao will be working with a scientist by the name of Essex.Could he be Sinister in disguise?
onejeremytogo
01-31-2006, 11:58 AM
My guess is nothing.
My guess is that I'm not going to try to figure out the suprise so when I see the movie I can be suprised.
Here here. When I went to see X2 I was soooo ticked because a friend of mine read the book and just HAD to tell me that Jean turns into Phoenix. This time I want to be surprised. Therefore, I'm not reading this thread any more. :) You guys have fun. I want there to be atleast one thing about the movie that I don't know before I see it.
Aiden
01-31-2006, 12:14 PM
I think it's either something todo with Cyke or Sentinels because when Simon was asked at the Xverse whether or not Sentinels were in the movie,he said "Sorry, that's a spoiler"
Wolverini
01-31-2006, 12:29 PM
If they werent in .. he'd say "No"
But this time , he said it was a spoiler. My guess? WE GOT SENTINELS BABY!!!
BBraddockLover
01-31-2006, 04:36 PM
i cant wait to find out
Dark_Phoeinix86
01-31-2006, 06:09 PM
I think its Sentinels because in the teaser you see Storm fly/jump down in a battle sceen. and 2 streams of red lasers go by, not Cyclops (dont think so atleast) wether its the danger room or at the bridge. i think we will see them. cmon think an army of muties, and some military people going againced them. the Sentinels seem pretty good to fit in here.
pyromaniac
01-31-2006, 09:13 PM
I think its Sentinels because in the teaser you see Storm fly/jump down in a battle sceen. and 2 streams of red lasers go by, not Cyclops (dont think so atleast) wether its the danger room or at the bridge. i think we will see them. cmon think an army of muties, and some military people going againced them. the Sentinels seem pretty good to fit in here.
Nope, lt's one that hasn't even been written on paper.
the Firestarter
01-31-2006, 11:10 PM
do you have a theory pyromaniac?
GreatWhiteWhale
01-31-2006, 11:39 PM
Didn't you guys knows?
The surpise is the X-Men walk in on Xavier and Moira doing it on the dining room table.
Then they back away awkwardly, one by one, and shut the door.
:D
the Firestarter
02-01-2006, 01:10 AM
the big surprise has to do with the ending. sentenels? cyclops? death of xavier?
the movie really needs to end with a bang. wonder how things will wrap up for the xmen.
Anton Oksehud
02-01-2006, 02:30 AM
Didn't you guys knows?
The surpise is the X-Men walk in on Xavier and Moira doing it on the dining room table.
Then they back away awkwardly, one by one, and shut the door.
:D
LOL:) That's a messed up picture in my head......
FRUITY
02-01-2006, 02:39 AM
Didn't you guys knows?
The surpise is the X-Men walk in on Xavier and Moira doing it on the dining room table.
Then they back away awkwardly, one by one, and shut the door.
:D
you just made an ugly mental picture in my head :eek:
Proteus-X312
02-01-2006, 06:30 AM
It would be interesting to see Mags lead the team after Prof X dies.Here are my ideas:
If Magneto joins and leads the X-Men.I would expect that many of the young mutants living at the school would not agree with it and decide to leave seeing as though the institute may be corrupted.This would also be because of their parents.(having a known mutant terrorists among a school full of children will cause concern)
Enter Emma Frost.Having known Charles for years and being knowledgeable in her own right decides to offer some of the students leaving a chance to join her.Those that join her will eventually be a team,combining with other mutants that Frost has encountered in her own life.
Six months later the team is established and recieve their first mission.A geneticist has been kidnapped and taken to an unknown location.Gathering clues from the site of the kidnapping the team(New Mutants)are sent to where the scientist is taken.The scientist is seen on his knees and in chains.As the team approaches the scientist suddenly reveals himself to be Mr.Sinister in disguise.The Nasty Boys are there to assist him as a brief battle ensues.The New Mutants lose and are kidnapped sans Emma Frost who escapes and alerts the X-Men of the ambush.Mr.Sinister plans to tinker with the childrens dna and also to find out what happened to Phoenix and Cyclops.One of the mutants dies after the torture recieved by Sinister.Magneto leads the X-Men,Wolverine,Storm,Colossus,Kitty,Angel,Iceman and Beast and they go to Sinister's base.Wolverine finds out that one of the children died by Sinister's hand and goes into a beserker rage.He decides to leave the rest of the team and ambushes the Nasty Boys ALONE!!!
What do you guys think of this?
WalkingDead
02-01-2006, 07:24 AM
I'm sorry but at this point I don't know what they could do to convince me that Magneto could ever change and join the X-Men. The movies have him set a certain way, I mean it would take the right things happening to make me believe that Magneto could ever join the X-Men's cause...particularly after he wages his war with humans in X3.
HOTROD1988
02-01-2006, 09:29 AM
I think the BIG surprise would be this:
The "Jean Grey" that the X-Men would be fighting against in X3 turns out to be a duplicate of the original and the original's body is lying at the bottom of Alkali Lake,in suspended animation,healing itself from the strain she suffered at the end of X2.Perhaps the "duplicate" turns out to be a being of pure psychic energy let out by Jean under the great pressure and it turns out its controlled by the mythical bird known as Pheonix.Perhaps the ending will have a certain scientist by the name of Dr Essex retreiving a nude body of the original Jean out of the waters...
Kaboom
02-01-2006, 10:04 AM
my theory:
at the end of the movie...with the huge fight going on between all the mutants. the sentinels are just going to ambush and kill just about everyone. except for wolverine and a few others.
this would lead right into a days of future past scenario...(isnt already pretty set that Bishop has at least a cameo).
We know theres a wolverine movie comin up...so maybe wolvies movie would be him in X-4 trying to figure out a way to save the x-men from dying in the past....hence forge and Bishop.
sparky_parker
02-01-2006, 12:10 PM
me like kaboom
Dark_Phoeinix86
02-01-2006, 01:43 PM
if they go the path of the future with Forge, Bishop and what not, then will they put Cable in it at all? along with Apocalypse? so many possibilities. so many xmen paths to take.
Dark_Phoeinix86
02-01-2006, 01:45 PM
double post
if they go the path of the future with Forge, Bishop and what not, then will they put Cable in it at all? along with Apocalypse? so many possibilities. so many xmen paths to take.
That to be honest would be an excellent spin off. No need to explain where all the other xmen are, its the future. Perfect spin off.
Kaboom
02-01-2006, 01:56 PM
aaaaw thaaaaaaaaaaanks...i thought so too
Hell, anything that involves forge bishop and Cable, even if it was a god damn musical, id be for it!
sparky_parker
02-01-2006, 04:46 PM
the secret scene is.........................
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9460/truffleshuffle7gi.gif
Wheels vs Blob
Electrix
02-01-2006, 04:48 PM
:eek: :eek:
LMAO!!!
Storm22
02-01-2006, 05:21 PM
HAHA, brilliant Sparky!!
sparky_parker
02-01-2006, 05:23 PM
*takes a bow*
Kazaire
02-01-2006, 05:25 PM
I think the BIG surprise would be this:
The "Jean Grey" that the X-Men would be fighting against in X3 turns out to be a duplicate of the original and the original's body is lying at the bottom of Alkali Lake,in suspended animation,healing itself from the strain she suffered at the end of X2.Perhaps the "duplicate" turns out to be a being of pure psychic energy let out by Jean under the great pressure and it turns out its controlled by the mythical bird known as Pheonix.Perhaps the ending will have a certain scientist by the name of Dr Essex retreiving a nude body of the original Jean out of the waters...
This may seem really cool to all the fans, but the casual movie-goers might not get what happened.
chaseter
02-01-2006, 05:59 PM
There is going to be a lot of suprises. The sentinels will be fought in the danger room. That is right, there are sentinels but they are computer programs in the danger room sequence...not in real life. Prof X dies but Magneto does not lead them. He will continue to lead his brotherhood. I think Gambit will make an appearance but towards the end. It would be awesome if they introduced a Dr. Nathaniel Essex as the lead creator of the cure. After all, the cure is deadly and kills Mystique. What if Apoc was behind the cure in the first place, making Essex(who will become Sinister at the end) impllant a virus in the new cure to kill off all the mutants so that he will reign supreme.
chaseter
02-01-2006, 06:00 PM
There is going to be a lot of suprises. The sentinels will be fought in the danger room. That is right, there are sentinels but they are computer programs in the danger room sequence...not in real life. Prof X dies but Magneto does not lead them. He will continue to lead his brotherhood. I think Gambit will make an appearance but towards the end. It would be awesome if they introduced a Dr. Nathaniel Essex as the lead creator of the cure. After all, the cure is deadly and kills Mystique. What if Apoc was behind the cure in the first place, making Essex(who will become Sinister at the end) impllant a virus in the new cure to kill off all the mutants so that he will reign supreme.
Valorman
02-01-2006, 07:49 PM
i know people keep saying "Patrick doesint know enough about the universe to think gambit is a suprise" but what if it came up, like a writer/director whoever just happens to mention a big secret like gambit or hey any other character and patrick,overhearing, understands that it would be quite a shock to fans.
do i believe that? no. but i figured id point it out
chaseter
02-01-2006, 07:54 PM
That would be crazy if it were so.
WalkingDead
02-01-2006, 08:27 PM
I think the BIG surprise would be this:
The "Jean Grey" that the X-Men would be fighting against in X3 turns out to be a duplicate of the original and the original's body is lying at the bottom of Alkali Lake,in suspended animation,healing itself from the strain she suffered at the end of X2.Perhaps the "duplicate" turns out to be a being of pure psychic energy let out by Jean under the great pressure and it turns out its controlled by the mythical bird known as Pheonix.Perhaps the ending will have a certain scientist by the name of Dr Essex retreiving a nude body of the original Jean out of the waters...
Nothing against you...
But I think that would be very much crap.
It would cheapen all the events and emotions involved with and around Jean/Phoenix. Plus that just doesn't seem plausible for the style and realism within the movie universe.
I mean if it happens, nothing I can do about it, but I think it would suck.
WalkingDead
02-01-2006, 08:31 PM
There is going to be a lot of suprises. The sentinels will be fought in the danger room. That is right, there are sentinels but they are computer programs in the danger room sequence...not in real life. Prof X dies but Magneto does not lead them. He will continue to lead his brotherhood. I think Gambit will make an appearance but towards the end. It would be awesome if they introduced a Dr. Nathaniel Essex as the lead creator of the cure. After all, the cure is deadly and kills Mystique. What if Apoc was behind the cure in the first place, making Essex(who will become Sinister at the end) impllant a virus in the new cure to kill off all the mutants so that he will reign supreme.
I seriously doubt Gambit will make even the slightest hidden cameo. I mean, it's nice if Gumbo-fans want to hold on to hope for him in some aspect, but let's not kid ourselves here.
And I really, really hope Apocalypse isn't introduced in this movie in anyway. No point to be all cliffhanger about the "ultimate mutant" or whatever. And Apocalypse wouldn't want to kill all mutants, he wants Survival of the Fittest, the strong to survive and live over the weak.
HOTROD1988
02-01-2006, 11:52 PM
Nothing against you...
But I think that would be very much crap.
It would cheapen all the events and emotions involved with and around Jean/Phoenix. Plus that just doesn't seem plausible for the style and realism within the movie universe.
I mean if it happens, nothing I can do about it, but I think it would suck.
Just a thought...just a thought :)
PWN3R
02-02-2006, 05:48 PM
the secret scene is.........................
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9460/truffleshuffle7gi.gif
Wheels vs Blob
wow man that is freakin awesome, stewart's face is......:unishr:
chaseter
02-02-2006, 05:57 PM
They could at least introduce an unmuttie Nathaniel Essex, like they did Dr. Hand McCoy in the last film. Essex could easily be the new bad guy in one of the future spinoffs. He would join up with Apocolypse who could see the survivors of the Legacy Virus/the cure as being fit enough to join his new world vision.
LoGaN's RuNNer
02-02-2006, 08:52 PM
I always thought that would be an awesome turn of events.I posted this somewhere else,but I'll say it again.To have Xavier die and have Mags lead the X-Men would be awesome.Read the last pages of Uncanny #200,if you want to know how it happened in the comics.It's a real touching moment.
Now if Mags fulfills his dying friend's wish,it would be cool to see Mystique and the rest of the Brotherhood leave Mags.Maybe form the Freedom Force with the gov't perhaps later on?This could be their way of getting back at Magneto for betraying them while having the whole "mutant hunters for the gov't" as a cover for their true intentions.
Let's say Xavier does die.Another way this could play out:Phoenix could possibly rejuvenate him to bring him back to life.However,Jean must sacrifice her own life if she goes thru with this.Jean dies.Xavier returns but is physically and mentally weak,so he must stay on Muir Island to recooperate until he becomes well again.
Perhaps this could link to that screen cap from a while back where some thought Jean was spitting at him or somthing.... Maybe he could take over the xmen and jean takes over the brotherhood, at least for a time..... Bad idea?...:)
sparky_parker
02-04-2006, 11:26 AM
where can I find that screen cap??
cookiva
03-22-2006, 08:41 PM
Im thinking that this scene could have been a shot of the origonal 5.....
WorthyStevens
03-22-2006, 08:51 PM
That's my thinking too. I mean, Stewart did say it was a scene not in the script, therefore not scripted...
Seeing my two favorite characters, Angel and Cyclops, in the same scene...
That's just too awesome for words even thinking about it. :D
Iceman/Psylocke
03-22-2006, 08:52 PM
That's my thinking too. I mean, Stewart did say it was a scene not in the script, therefore not scripted...
Seeing my two favorite characters, Angel and Cyclops, in the same scene...
That's just too awesome for words even thinking about it. :D
Even if it's Angel burying Cyke? :p
WorthyStevens
03-22-2006, 09:03 PM
Even if it's Angel burying Cyke? :p
:eek:
Damn your cold heart! :( :mad:
:p
That's the second time I've said that tonight. :p
TNC9852002
03-23-2006, 12:39 AM
Bah...The possibilities are endless.. :(
-TNC
WorthyStevens
03-23-2006, 12:44 AM
Bah...The possibilities are endless.. :(
-TNC
At least we'll be surprised... :O
silver_arrow
03-23-2006, 02:16 AM
If Apocalypse could disguise like Mystique, then it'd be him. But since it's Stewart talking, it must be something that has to do with his character. Perhaps, Jean contacted him telepathically?
silver_arrow
03-23-2006, 02:18 AM
I wouldn't recognize it as a surprise if it's Gambit, Cable or whoelse, the general public wouldn't be surprised, or at least I am--I won't recognize him, heck, I don't even know him.:lol
FieryBalrog
03-23-2006, 02:42 AM
Its not going to be something obscure or fan-oriented, if Stewart says its a surprise it'll be a surprise from the perspective of a movie storyline.
Sunstar
03-23-2006, 03:55 AM
Im thinking that this scene could have been a shot of the origonal 5.....
I wish they would film that scene or at least take a pic of it and make it available to everyone it would be sooooooooo cool! :D :up:
TNC9852002
03-23-2006, 04:45 AM
Just seeing Angel, Beast, and Iceman in one scene would be good enough for me... :D
-TNC
martinbluther
03-23-2006, 04:49 AM
What is the fear and loathing board? Or, rather, where? Did a search and could not find it...
GoldGoblin
03-23-2006, 04:52 AM
Stewart isn't fan enough to call Gambit a "great surprise". The great surprise will most likely be a major plot twist with enough special effects to cost a ****load. Gambit does not fit this bill.
^:up:
GoldGoblin
03-23-2006, 04:53 AM
Maybe spidey comes swinging into a scene:)
Angry Sentinel
03-23-2006, 01:06 PM
Just seeing Angel, Beast, and Iceman in one scene would be good enough for me... :D
-TNC I second this :up:
StevieNicks1988
03-23-2006, 01:09 PM
I bet I know what the surprise is. When the X-Men arrive at the location of the final battle, Magneto decides to try and make the X-Men feel small and weak, so he leads his entire mighty Brotherhood into the Michael Jackson's Thriller dancemoves!! :eek:
:o
Angry Sentinel
03-23-2006, 01:18 PM
I bet I know what the surprise is. When the X-Men arrive at the location of the final battle, Magneto decides to try and make the X-Men feel small and weak, so he leads his entire mighty Brotherhood into the Michael Jackson's Thriller dancemoves!! :eek:
:o or better yet... MOONWALKER!! :hyper:
phantom47
03-23-2006, 02:22 PM
I think what Stewart is meaning by surprise is that the audience will see Xavier and Mags at Jeans house 20 years before, and that they both will be younger.
RedIsNotBlue
03-23-2006, 02:26 PM
I think what Stewart is meaning by surprise is that the audience will see Xavier and Mags at Jeans house 20 years before, and that they both will be younger.
Yeah thats what I was thinking. Or he was probably just talking about Sentinels.
WorthyStevens
03-23-2006, 02:29 PM
I think what Stewart is meaning by surprise is that the audience will see Xavier and Mags at Jeans house 20 years before, and that they both will be younger.
It was either Kinberg, Penn or Stewart who said that the secret scene wasn't in the script. It was unscripted.
RedIsNotBlue
03-23-2006, 02:31 PM
It was either Kinberg, Penn or Stewart who said that the secret scene wasn't in the script. It was unscripted.
Well maybe it was scripted to have younger guys at first? I dunno.
phantom47
03-23-2006, 02:31 PM
It was either Kinberg, Penn or Stewart who said that the secret scene wasn't in the script. It was unscripted.ohh ok gotcha:up:
Angry Sentinel
12-11-2006, 08:34 AM
Bumpage, Did we decide what the Stewart X3 surprise was/is?
His apparent body swap? That he was slightly the cause of a major villian? That he played NO part in redeeming Jean/Pheonix?
... Any others?
Halcohol
12-11-2006, 08:35 AM
It would've been his scene with Moira after the credits. That's about it. :p
Angry Sentinel
12-11-2006, 08:38 AM
Seems like the obvious choice, but I wonder if any one thought differently. You'd be surprised what people disagree on around here.
Halcohol
12-11-2006, 08:40 AM
Seems like the obvious choice, but I wonder if any one thought differently. You'd be surprised what people disagree on around here.
Arguments in this forum generally accomplish nothing but give people carpal tunnel syndrome :p No, it was definitely the "secret" scene after the credits.
04nbod
12-11-2006, 08:46 AM
wow this is an old thread- i haven't seen cookiva around here in ages. And its been confirmed it was the scene on the credits on the DVD- both ratner and stewert said it was so hush hush it was unscripted.
Angry Sentinel
12-11-2006, 08:58 AM
They referred to it on the dvd, good. I'm glad that there's some actual proof out there to what he eluded to. Again, it is the most obvious choice.
Well there went that good topic. With all the split feelings and perceptions on the movie I was hoping to find some topic that we all can agree.
Halcohol
12-11-2006, 09:00 AM
They referred to it on the dvd, good. I'm glad that there's some actual proof out there to what he eluded to. Again, it is the most obvious choice.
Well there went that good topic. With all the split feelings and perceptions on the movie I was hoping to find some topic that we all can agree.
I believe it would be called a "fact" ;) :cool:
Angry Sentinel
12-11-2006, 09:09 AM
I believe it would be called a "fact" ;) :cool:... WOW, THEY DO EXIST!!! :woot: :up:
TheCaptain22555
12-11-2006, 10:27 AM
My only surprise when I saw X3 was my favorite X-Man (Cyclops) got nearly no face time and then got smoked like 25 minutes into the movie.
04nbod
12-11-2006, 12:17 PM
^funny thing- i looked through the massive x men book i ordered for christmas- they have a spotlight on cyclops with the subheading 'the indespensible x man' maybe i should buy mr ratner a copy
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