For ALL Discussion of the Richard 'Ricky' Hoggard Incident

[Retroman]

i havent looked back in this thread much, but what ricky said about the sentinels being in x3, how a foot crushes down on a car, is this true, false or 50/50?
For what it's worth - I heard the same thing from one of the Multiple Man extras. He also saw Storm's wig (gave a pretty description as well) so i trust his opnion.

[aaron]

For what it's worth - I heard the same thing from one of the Multiple Man extras. He also saw Storm's wig (gave a pretty description as well) so i trust his opnion.

ok cool :)

and do u still think hes telling the truth about that li'l thing he told us in pms/ims etc?

[Retroman]

ok cool :)

and do u still think hes telling the truth about that li'l thing he told us in pms/ims etc?
I'm not 100% sure. It would be 'wet my pants' kind of stuff IF it is true wouldn't it?

[aaron]

i think it would be 's**tmy pants' kind of stuff if it was true hehe

[Retroman]

yeah. lol. I think i'm carrying a extra pair of undies with me in May.

[aaron]

hehe

[Electrix]

[Note to diary}

Take extra pair of thermals for viewing of X3

[Downhere]

ok cool :)

and do u still think hes telling the truth about that li'l thing he told us in pms/ims etc?

*Wonder's what was told to Kol and Retro...hmm*

[GNR]

*Wonder's what was told to Kol and Retro...hmm*

The supposed short Gambit cameo.

[Downhere]

^ Oh, that's nothing knew from the Ricky days. lol.

[Holly Goodhead]

l wish l could remember my Beverely Mahood password.

[Downhere]

I hate when I can't remember something yet it's at the tip of my tongue.

[Feyd Rautha]

i havent looked back in this thread much, but what ricky said about the sentinels being in x3, how a foot crushes down on a car, is this true, false or 50/50?

This is coming from a guy who said they faxed him an altered version of the script (which has the descriptions mentioned above). Why on earth would they fax someone who's not in/or involved with the movie parts of a script which they've clearly been so protective of?

[Specter313]

GREAT find by Rez( :up: :up: ) in the 'Metal Monstrosities - The Official Sentinels/Project Wideawake thread' today... :eek:

All that likely has absolutely nothing to do with the movie itself. Just look at other movies in the past who have had action figures for chracters and outfits that never made it into the movies that they were connected to. Ricky was a liar, we've already established that. Avalanche is not in this movie. His inclusion in that toy list is about as relevant as including NC, Gambit, or Sabretooth, who we already know aren't in the movie.

[TheVileOne]

Don't start holding your breath.

That's probably an early line-up based on script drafts which had Gambit. Just like Nightcrawler was in earlier drafts and they had him in the early line-up. Nightcrawler of course is no longer in the movie.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Don't start holding your breath.

That's probably an early line-up based on script drafts which had Gambit. Just like Nightcrawler was in earlier drafts and they had him in the early line-up. Nightcrawler of course is no longer in the movie.

Well set reports confirmed that Angel flies across to the church that Nightcrawler hid out in in X2. So you never know.

[Specter313]

Well set reports confirmed that Angel flies across to the church that Nightcrawler hid out in in X2. So you never know.

But that scene is set in San Francisco. Nightcrawler's scene with that church took place in Boston. So it's clearly not supposed to be the same church.

[cookiva]

But that scene is set in San Francisco. Nightcrawler's scene with that church took place in Boston. So it's clearly not supposed to be the same church.

I was about to ask that.

[RedIsNotBlue]

But that scene is set in San Francisco. Nightcrawler's scene with that church took place in Boston. So it's clearly not supposed to be the same church.

You never know.

[cookiva]

You never know.

So what happens is that Angel flies from San Fran, to across the street, which is Boston?

[RedIsNotBlue]

So what happens is that Angel flies from San Fran, to across the street, which is Boston?

No. I am saying just because it appears that way doesn't mean it is necessarily going to appear that way in the movie.

[logansoldcigar]

So what happens is that Angel flies from San Fran, to across the street, which is Boston?

Nah, you just dress it differently. In X2, it was meant to be abandoned. amazing how different it would look without all the boarding outside, and allsigns of regular use.

[Retroman]

bump

[cookiva]

Thanks retro. Too much disscussion going on in the 2 new threads about ricky!

[TheVileOne]

Well set reports confirmed that Angel flies across to the church that Nightcrawler hid out in in X2. So you never know.

Actually we do. Nightcrawler is NOT in the movie.

The reason he flies across the church, think about the imagery. A guy that flies...with WINGs...that's called ANGEL. Just think about it a little bit ;) .

[Jan Irisi]

And for all we know the scene may end before the church is even in the shot. It is more than likely coincidence that the church is across the street, and that happens to be where they set up the crane.

[cookiva]

And for all we know the scene may end before the church is even in the shot. It is more than likely coincidence that the church is across the street, and that happens to be where they set up the crane.

Ya, I agree. If it is in the scene, it will just be him flying over it.

[TheVileOne]

They'll probably have a shot of people seeing Angel through the church window or something.

[Specter313]

They'll probably have a shot of people seeing Angel through the church window or something.

And then they break into all sorts of religious practices. Praying, repenting, hail mary's, saying the end is near, etc..

[TheVileOne]

Probably Specter313. I imagine Ratner will try and play it off rather comedically, but that's just a guess.

But its also an image we've seen in the comics and cartoons before.

[Retroman]

Update
A1ant asked if Darwin also took these pics http://public.fotki.com/xmenfilms/x-men_3_lynn_valley/ I asked him and Darwin kindly replied:
No, I didn't take those pics, but anyone in Vancouver could have taken them. The set was in a public park.On Ricky he says:
I don't really want to be involved in that whole thing.I didn't know him, never met him, just talked to him a few times. People can make up their own minds about him, but I can't vouch for him in any way.
I asked (more like begged) to answer these questions on this boards behalf. Hope this helps. :)

[aaron]

youre such a beggar retro tut tut :D

[Downhere]

Update
A1ant asked if Darwin also took these pics http://public.fotki.com/xmenfilms/x-men_3_lynn_valley/ I asked him and Darwin kindly replied:
On Ricky he says:

I asked (more like begged) to answer these questions on this boards behalf. Hope this helps. :)

Interesting.

[Retroman]

youre such a beggar retro tut tut :D
:o :O

[Retroman]

Hope i'm not causing much distress by bumping up this ancient thread but i feel the need to do so.This is the only appropriate place.:O

I got a copy of Empire Magazine (Australia edition) today (Wolverine on the cover). I started flipping through the pages when i noticed something...something VERY familar. Once i checked my computer photo album it confirmed my suspicions; i was looking at a picture of 'Ricky Hoggard' or the pic he said/claimed was a pic of himself at the time.It's on the last page of the magazine, a VIZIO Plasma Monitor ad.

Heres the original thing....
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/959/campusstarter4bu8ed.jpg


I'll try to scan the VIZIO ad tomorrow.

[Halcohol]

So he even lied about his picture? Go figure :p

[spideyboy_1111]

actually im not sure hes lying about his picture at all, unless you can confirm that that person is indeed not ricky. I use to talk to him on aim... and he talked about hanging around LA... and how he got into acting... and who he knows (no one big, but he rubbed elbows with a couple reality tv stars) plus one must admit about half of what he has said, indeed has come true... or close to it

[Specter313]

actually im not sure hes lying about his picture at all, unless you can confirm that that person is indeed not ricky. I use to talk to him on aim... and he talked about hanging around LA... and how he got into acting... and who he knows (no one big, but he rubbed elbows with a couple reality tv stars) plus one must admit about half of what he has said, indeed has come true... or close to it

He had one or two things come true, nowhere even close to half.

[BBraddockLover]

well its funny his picture is used in an x3 magazine

[spideyboy_1111]

He had one or two things come true, nowhere even close to half.
meh... so he said scarlet witch was in the movie.. he told me himself he was not an X-men fan... and didnt know one character from the next.... and to someone who knew of a character... and saw famke in her phoenix costume.. one could easily confuse the 2.... but as for avalanche.... and gambit... both were in the original scripy...

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

meh... so he said scarlet witch was in the movie.. he told me himself he was not an X-men fan... and didnt know one character from the next.... and to someone who knew of a character... and saw famke in her phoenix costume.. one could easily confuse the 2.... but as for avalanche.... and gambit... both were in the original scripy...

Don't forget the Storm saving Wolverine from the smashed car scene.

[pt_photo_inc]

I, along with many others on these boards, would like nothing more than to believe that, but can you prove it?

so this was good info right?

[Specter313]

so this was good info right?

No.

[Specter313]

meh... so he said scarlet witch was in the movie.. he told me himself he was not an X-men fan... and didnt know one character from the next.... and to someone who knew of a character... and saw famke in her phoenix costume.. one could easily confuse the 2.... but as for avalanche.... and gambit... both were in the original scripy...

Except anyone could probably tell you who the heck Famke is. And there's no way he could mistake the two with the other crap he fed us about SW, saying he specifically had scenes with her attacking the school.

[Specter313]

Don't forget the Storm saving Wolverine from the smashed car scene.

Probably the one and only thing he ever got right.

[CapBeerCino]

Hopefully we won't need to keep this thread open for too long :)
Yep. :D

[Avalanche]

Isn't it time we stopped talking about the 'Ricky Hoggard incident'? It's long in the past now.

[britrogue]

Wow, this is the first I'd heard of any of this. Has my head been in the sand or what?

[Retroman]

I scanned the ad that appeared in Empire Magazine Australia (April)...

http://rapidshare.de/files/18985860/Empire_Australia_Ad.JPG.html

[pt_photo_inc]

Probably the one and only thing he ever got right.

HE GOT THE SENTINELS RIGHT

[The Original Bamfer]

meh... so he said scarlet witch was in the movie.. he told me himself he was not an X-men fan... and didnt know one character from the next.... and to someone who knew of a character... and saw famke in her phoenix costume.. one could easily confuse the 2.... but as for avalanche.... and gambit... both were in the original scripy...

Wrong about confusing the two characters, Scarlet and Phoenix. His Scarlet Witch was a young actress who played a young character - he knew full-well who Phoenix was. He knew, like all of us, that Avalanche was once planned to be in this film. Sans him saying he never read the script review. Somehow, he was involved in the movie. He knew of some stuff - like the surprise ending character. It is also mildly possible he was cast for Avalanche when Vaugn was on board. But its obvious Ratner only kept the real talent for X3. Anyway, he could be getting leaked crap from other people. Who knows... All we do know is he was a fake, a liar, and the Queen of Attention Whores. And like the best of them all, he's probably drooling over the slight attention he is getting. I hope this gets closed soon...

[onejeremytogo]

I just want a link to something he posted? I don't remember reading anything he's posted. I'm VERY lost. What pics did he post and so on?

[Endeavor]

HE GOT THE SENTINELS RIGHT
So did 20 other people who were just guessing and never claimed to have insider info. For that matter there were posters here who predicted, in wishfull thinking, that Callisto would be in X3 and she'd fight Storm. Does that mean that those posters had a part in X3? No

Ricky was a liar, a fake, a creep who enjoyed playing mindgames. Please accept that people, cause it wont be the last time you encounter people like that online.. and move on!

[invincible mann]

creeps like this do exist they all promise access and info
just to get their moment in the sun forget him

[Avalanche]

So did 20 other people who were just guessing and never claimed to have insider info. For that matter there were posters here who predicted, in wishfull thinking, that Callisto would be in X3 and she'd fight Storm. Does that mean that those posters had a part in X3? No

Ricky was a liar, a fake, a creep who enjoyed playing mindgames. Please accept that people, cause it wont be the last time you encounter people like that online.. and move on!
He did get a couple of things right. He may have lied abaout a lot of things, but he had some kind of access to get the few bits of correct information that he did.

But again, this thread is still open?