For ALL Discussion of the Richard 'Ricky' Hoggard Incident

[MattC]

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

Mirko, who for those of you who don't know created SHH!, has given me permission to post this thread on the basis that it is the ONLY place for discussion of Ricky and the whole incident. This is to primarily try and take conversation of him out of random threads so that X3 related conversations can continue in a normal manner.

Please if you wish to discuss ANYTHING regarding Ricky and his involvement with the boards etc can you post it in this thread. A lot of board members would like to move on from the whole thing and it would be respectful of those still wanting to discuss the issue to do so in this thread only (so that it can be avoided by those not wanting to read).

If people do not wish to discuss this issue then this thread will slip into the archive pages never to be seen again, it is not my intention to drag all this up again as it is still being discussed actively. I am just moving it to a thread of its ok.

BACKGROUND INFO

Who is Ricky Hoggard?
Ricky was invited to SHH! a while back by poster Retroman upon discovery of his claim to be involved in X3. He claimed to be involved in the production as a character named Avalanche and has gone on to post various spoilers and a few images taken during filming. He has now been banned from this forum after FOX intervened and informed the SHH! admins of his lies (stating that he has no such role in the movie); the banning was SHH!s decision and not FOX's.

Thats the short version, but those who want to know more can ask for it in here. Its basically for members who have come back and found he has gone and want to know why, along with allowing current members to discuss whether or not he is real.


No flaming please, everyone is entitled to believe or disbelieve him.

Thanks everyone! Hopefully we won't need to keep this thread open for too long :)

[JP]

Oh God, let this work! :up:

[MattC]

Oh God, let this work! :up:

If people have any respect for each other on this board then it will work. :) Anyone who comes in complaining about the discussion will be politely told that they have no need to come in here if they don't want to discuss it.

[Coldqueen]

It's an "incident" now?

[spidey207]

So I was gone since thursday and all I have gathered is Ricky H got banned but I don't really know why. Can someone fill me in please?

[GNR]

I'm actually done discussing this.This got way too blown up.

[GNR]

The events which transpired within the last week or so:



RickyH:the informant claiming to be Avalanche in X3 has given us some spoilers and photos to back up his claims.many of us have trusted him,some remain skeptical,while some despise him.



Yesterday morning,he was banned by the Mods.The reason being he was supposedly a fake,they were told by FOX.This ignited a heated battle among many of us taking sides and what not.



These issues remain unresolved to this day.The shockwaves are still being felt with all of us looking for answers we know we will not be receving for a while.

There ya go.

[spidey207]

^^^Thanx man.

[The Infernal]

I thought in one of the threads SHH posted that Fox had nothing to do with the banning. I can't remember which thread that was but I think SHH next post in that thread was the one about preparing for the hurricane.

[The Original Bamfer]

Hmmm...

[MattC]

I thought in one of the threads SHH posted that Fox had nothing to do with the banning. I can't remember which thread that was but I think SHH next post in that thread was the one about preparing for the hurricane.

In the first post I mentioned:

the banning was SHH!s decision and not FOX's.

Fox discussed the issue with SHH!, they did not demand that Ricky was banned. Mirko stated that the decision was made by himself.

[RedIsNotBlue]

See this is the thing. Fox say they didn't want him banned yet they tell SHH! he is a fake? And why ban him EVEN if he was a fake? He was giving us actual set photos. A part of me is feeling he struck a nerve with Fox.

[AdWolF16]

he wasn't a fake, fox just didn't like him talking so much (or at least didn't like people believing him so much) so they discredited him.

[Specter313]

he wasn't a fake, fox just didn't like him talking so much (or at least didn't like people believing him so much) so they discredited him.

No, they said he was spreading false info. It's pretty much a given that he's Ricky, but there's a lot more questioning whether or not he's really in the movie. Considering that he gave false info on his agency, and that he doesn't answer anyone's questions anymore, and that FOX has said more than once that he is not in the movie, I'd say that the answer to that is a big fat NO. If he was really in the movie, he should have known from the beginning that he wasn't allowed to give out what he was, because just about everyone else has signed a confidentiality agreement, so why wouldn't he have?

[Downhere]

Ahh, this is good, a thread for all RickyH talk to be in. You know though. It's kind of old now though. lol. We needed this like right after the news hit.

[Hellion]

Interesting...didn't know the whole story.

[wolviechickie]

Why is this such a big deal...he was banned...big deal. Case open and shut

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I have a lot of questions about a lot of things... not all of them RickyH related.

Somewhere along the line in this whole X-Men 3 business, we're being jerked around.

I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but I do think something fishy is going on, and this RickyH thing is just a part of it.

[Octoberist]

So you're thinking that RickyH, though being a phooney, could be somehow connected to the production?

I doubt..I really doubt. But I think we're at a stage where we don't know crap about this movie. I have to admit that some of Ricky's comments and the Xmenfilm.net spy scoop were well thought out; everything that he mentioned were NOT TOTALLY FALSE, but could also be a bolt of creativity.

I don't know....

[RedIsNotBlue]

So you're thinking that RickyH, though being a phooney, could be somehow connected to the production?

I doubt..I really doubt. But I think we're at a stage where we don't know crap about this movie. I have to admit that some of Ricky's comments and the Xmenfilm.net spy scoop were well thought out; everything that he mentioned were NOT TOTALLY FALSE, but could also be a bolt of creativity.

I don't know....

How do you explain the on set pics he got?

[Octoberist]

That's the thing...I don't know.

It's not like "HE's bad" and that's it. There's more to it...But I don't know where to start.

Ricky was fairly consistent with his reports (certain ones anyway) and his photo supply was huge. (It wasn't like he stole them..or did he?) He could of been on the set and shot the pics, but it doesn't mean that he was in the movie. Then again, he could be connected somehow, nevertheless!

RedisnotBLue, I don't know what the deal is with Ricky, but I'm over it (for the most part). Now I'm back to being more uncertain of X3..

[Retroman]

The whole episode is confusing and hurtfull. Mostly because -no offence to SHH!, XVerse, XMF etc- i'm not 100% certain that FOX is telling the truth nor am i convinced (based on whats happened recently)Ricky is telling the truth.

It's times like these i really wish i had access to Cerebro. I want to see the proof with my own two eyes.

[Octoberist]

Exactly Retro. I mean...it was you who brought him here. If Ricky betrayed you, it's almost personal (for the internet anyway..in real life, it's worse :) ) But now, we all don't know anything until more scoops get published in the upcoming months. Waiting for the definate 'truth' (for me anyway) is painful.

[JustABill]

I said I was over this, and not going to have my presence in this thread unless something groundbreaking and revealing in the case happened.

But RickyH being a fraud, or the possibility of it, as big as it is, is rather very hurtful, and I can understand how it'd be even more so for people ike Retro and Ant.

But like Nell, said in a whole something is rather fishy about the production of X3 as a whole and Ricky is just a tiny cog in the huge puzzling clock that is the X3 production.

[Octoberist]

well said bill.

[RedIsNotBlue]

That's the thing...I don't know.

It's not like "HE's bad" and that's it. There's more to it...But I don't know where to start.

Ricky was fairly consistent with his reports (certain ones anyway) and his photo supply was huge. (It wasn't like he stole them..or did he?) He could of been on the set and shot the pics, but it doesn't mean that he was in the movie. Then again, he could be connected somehow, nevertheless!

RedisnotBLue, I don't know what the deal is with Ricky, but I'm over it (for the most part). Now I'm back to being more uncertain of X3..

There are pictures that were posted that required more access than just a bystander could get. And be honest...noone is really "over" it...haha. We are all waiting to see what the deal is and time will tell.

[Octoberist]

You're right. This is a topic some people WANT to ramble on forever. It's interesting because it's a big mystery that we all want to solve right away. BUt time is the enemy.

I'm thinking that we'll know for sure by the end of the year. No doubt.

[prins777]

one question, is scarlet witch in the movie or not? I remember that it was rickyh that broke that news.

[Octoberist]

Nobody knows...everything now is so blended with FACT and FICTION that I don't know what to think. Samething with the Sentinals...

[bluewolv]

IQUOTE=Nell2ThaIzzay]I have a lot of questions about a lot of things... not all of them RickyH related.

Somewhere along the line in this whole X-Men 3 business, we're being jerked around.

I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but I do think something fishy is going on, and this RickyH thing is just a part of it.[/QUOTE]



agree with that. I mean Fox says they don't want him banned yet he is, even though he IS really an actor and however he got them, did have real set photos and a pretty good knowledge of the x-men production (still doesn't prove he is real though). He is banned yet Spiderman-2 who is just flat out lying gets his posts re-posted despite having NOTHING credible to back him up.

[-Æ-]

Like I said before, hopefully Ricky didn't get into trouble because of us. I mean he really didn't even know about SHH!. I think that he actually was Ricky Hoggard, yet FOX got really pissed at him. I can understand SHH! hiding the true info, not to discredited FOX any because they could backlash with lawyers.

I also believe that, it will show if Ricky is or isn't in the movie this time around. The only way to find out is,

1. Find out where Ricky Hoggard is, and contact him.

2. Contact his agency

3. Find out who his cousins agent is (the one from american idol) and contact him. They might just have the same agent.

4. Wait till fox releases the full Character list.

5. Wait until they release the trailers, and see if he is in them.

Hopefully, like I said, he didn't get into trouble. It is a possibility that FOX can backlash by not letting him post anything more incredulous by threating to recast the row (which would put them behind schedule seriously if he actually is in the movie)

Yet lies just get to messy, and the truth will eventually surface from all of this. Doesn't this all just make you feel a little dirty though?

[tedw]

Endeavor contacted his supposed former agency to inquire about contact details for his current agent, who he said worked for his old agency until a point. They'd never heard of Ricky or his agent, who would have been a former employee of theirs.

No one knows what Fox said to SHH, so it's not fair to say Fox didn't want him banned. Whatever transpired, SHH had word that he's not legit and made their own administrative decision.

[afmvdp]

and no where does it say fox DIDN'T want him to be banned, just that they didn't make the final decision. This is because they don't have any jurisdiction to do so, Ricky knew better and wasn't posting pictures or actual script clips that would make Fox angry, Fox just let SHH know that what he was spewing was all false and SHH made the wise move to save people from themselves and ban him.

[-Æ-]

That could be true, yet there are too many holes in the topic besides the fact. Also we haven't seen this fake pop up any trolls on the boards debuffing this statement, or retorting to the fact that they are fake or not. (like some usually do when they get banned)

I believe FOX has alot more to do with it, especially since they made Xmenfilms remove those photos of Omega Red and Gauntlet because RickyH (didnt take them) but was 'able' to provide them. He released alot of information about the movie though.

It is a very big possiblity that RickyH is a fake period, yet there is the considerable feeling that RickyH is very genuine. There is going to be alot of speculation on this until proven otherwise.

You can't deny that this seems awfuly vague and incomplete. Its like a damn mystery or something. Like going to a press conference and just getting the answer 'no comment'.

Yes, I know alot of you have already dropped this subject all together. Also I know alot of your psyche has been utterly shattered towards the fact that someone has con'ed you. This just can't be the 'end' of it to all.

For all of you conspiracy theorist out there, you can chew and mew all over this if you want. Its not going to help the fact that SHH! has stated what the now, or more to the fact, what they want us to know.

Leave it be, that like I have posted before. The truth will surface of all of this. To me this stinks to high heaven. Don't let the words fool you, if you have to believe what you want, yet don't get all up in someone elses post without speaking a clear a conscience explanation on why you feel like that.

Futhermore, consider the likelyhood that this is all one big bulk of crap-o-la to the highest extent. There is nothing more vagrantly jacked up then a bunch of egos being shattered over one thing.

[the a1ant]

I'm actually done discussing this.This got way too blown up.

I agree. I'm not discussing this matter further, unless I get some new info (which may come later today, I don't know).

[Mr. Freeze]

All i know is he played all you guys..... i mean damna he strait up made you guys look stupid not to mention he is probaly laugning his ass off when he realizes how much of a commotion he started by having his own thread were people are discussing his legitamacy....Man he was one smart mofo to fool you guys like he did

Holy crap to tell ya the truth i am impressed,

I mean i have seen people come on these boards and claim **** and of course you guys believe it.....but this guy took it to another level


I hope you guys feel ashamed on how well he conned you guys into believing....to put it in simple terms he won you guys lost badly............

By the way seeing is how all that **** he said was bs.. for all we know the movie might suck because everything so far could be total bull****


I mean he got you guys so well because you all believed it so well... maybe it was because he was telling you guys what you wanted to hear.. i dont know but i hope you guys feel stupid


Cuse i not once amazingly beleived it i mean sure i said it sounds cool and hoped it was true but i knew from day one he was a fraud.

[GNR]

All i know is he played all you guys..... i mean damna he strait up made you guys look stupid not to mention he is probaly laugning his ass off when he realizes how much of a commotion he started by having his own thread were people are discussing his legitamacy....Man he was one smart mofo to fool you guys like he did

Holy crap to tell ya the truth i am impressed,

I mean i have seen people come on these boards and claim **** and of course you guys believe it.....but this guy took it to another level


I hope you guys feel ashamed on how well he conned you guys into believing....to put it in simple terms he won you guys lost badly............

By the way seeing is how all that **** he said was bs.. for all we know the movie might suck because everything so far could be total bull****


I mean he got you guys so well because you all believed it so well... maybe it was because he was telling you guys what you wanted to hear.. i dont know but i hope you guys feel stupid


Cuse i not once amazingly beleived it i mean sure i said it sounds cool and hoped it was true but i knew from day one he was a fraud.

That's good for you Freeze.What do you want,a trophy?

[Holly Goodhead]

Seriously, who cares? Get over it.

[NocturnalMadman]

Judging by his post, Freeze wants to be smacked upside the head with said trophy GNR...

Has anyone had anymore contact with Ricky? It's his unwillingness to comment on the situation that makes me uncomfortable but then for all we know he could be skating on very thin ice with Fox for revealing what he did...

It really could go either way.

But as so many others have said, time to leave this one alone for now...

[JP]

I talk to him over aim.

[The Original Bamfer]

Just did a couple minutes ago... ;)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I talk to him over aim.

Want a medal ?

[JP]

Want a medal ?

I'm sorry. Forgive me for answering someones question.

[Mr. Freeze]

Oh by the way does that mean that there is no Avalanche,Scarelett witch nor is there a figt scene at the mansion involving Juggs vs collosus,rouge vs scarlett witch,pyro vs iceman or avalanche vs jubilee? iam guessing that is bull**** also

So it seems like almost everything we know so far is bull****..
so for all we know it could suck,.....

Great

[Specter313]

This is because they don't have any jurisdiction to do so, Ricky knew better and wasn't posting pictures or actual script clips that would make Fox angry

I'd say giving out pictures that were asked to be removed and giving out possible spoilers for big scenes should be plenty to get any movie company pissed.

[AgentEnforcer]

Just did a couple minutes ago... ;)

SO whats the situation with the guy? "Um, hey man, I dunno if you know this but you got BANNED for being a fraud..."

Whats the dude saying? "They are just trying to shut me up... I've been saying too much, etc." "No, I was just playin'... heh heh... good times!"

Like is this guy maintaining that he is telling the truth?

[ctvampslayer]

The Ricky thing is weird to me. If he's fake, how'd he get those pics? If he's real, why were some of his posts contradictory, and why would a huge company like FOX go out of their way to deal with him? I'm in agreement that something doesn't add up. When I heard he was Ant's source, though, I was extremely surprised. I'd think he would've made sure before taking somone in out of nowhere. Oh well, I'm still optimistic about the movie, and we'll see how everything turned out in May.

[wolviechickie]

I have found...that I really dont care about the whole ricky and scarlett witch thing. It just means that as mush as I want to know things about the movie..I will just have to wait for the movie to come out.

[pyromaniac]

All i know is he played all you guys..... i mean damna he strait up made you guys look stupid not to mention he is probaly laugning his ass off when he realizes how much of a commotion he started by having his own thread were people are discussing his legitamacy....Man he was one smart mofo to fool you guys like he did

Holy crap to tell ya the truth i am impressed,

I mean i have seen people come on these boards and claim **** and of course you guys believe it.....but this guy took it to another level


I hope you guys feel ashamed on how well he conned you guys into believing....to put it in simple terms he won you guys lost badly............

By the way seeing is how all that **** he said was bs.. for all we know the movie might suck because everything so far could be total bull****


I mean he got you guys so well because you all believed it so well... maybe it was because he was telling you guys what you wanted to hear.. i dont know but i hope you guys feel stupid


Cuse i not once amazingly beleived it i mean sure i said it sounds cool and hoped it was true but i knew from day one he was a fraud.

You're no better than Ricky who is imitating 'I told you so!' to those who sided with him, more or less.

Ant and Retroman were on that 'side' - are you hoping they fêel, or felt bad to begin with...?

You're confusing the authenticity of Ricky's with the one of the relătionship betwêen the SHH and Fox.

Just for the record - if Ricky was telling us all we wanted to hear, he'd have mentioned Gambit - who is arguably the most piece of news that we all want to hear, and Ricky'd have done his 'work'.

It's no big loss to me - nobody is ashamed or fêels stupid any more than confused, frustrated and curious as to get to the 'bottom of the matter'.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

You know the week X Men 3 opens next year there should be a thread about the Good Old times we have had here at SSH :p

[-Æ-]

So what did RickyH say on AIM?

[Mr. Freeze]

I gurantee you this Ricky H is rolling on the floor laughing his ass off to all the suckers...

And one reason why he did not say anything about Gambit, because this dude was not some dumbass who knew that it would be to wierd and obvious if he said Gambit is not in it....I would have done the same

[Mr. Freeze]

I gotta give props to the guy
Never ever seen anything like this....And i have been herefor a while

[JP]

Your funny.

[pyromaniac]

I gurantee you this Ricky H is rolling on the floor laughing his ass off to all the suckers...

And one reason why he did not say anything about Gambit, because this dude was not some dumbass who knew that it would be to wierd and obvious if he said Gambit is not in it....I would have done the same

But you just said he was only telling us what we 'wanted' to hear - or do you mean, subconsciously, ie we wanted Scarlet Witch to appear..? ;)

And anyway, if he's laughing, I doubt it was his intent to get banned considering the amount of self promotion he had.

If he went to great lengths to fơol us all, I'm not sure if that spark of deception he had in his brain would extend to the end of his 'shelf life' on the boards, so to speak.

What do you think, mate? Think he'd intended to be banned in the end, sêeing that quite a few people on here has his name and email on their msns or aims.

[-Æ-]

It will be ok Mr. Freeze, it will be ok.

[spideyboy_1111]

thought that was funny.. he so freely gave hims AIM sn to people but would never answer any when on.. all u get was a message leading u to a virus...

[the a1ant]

"Richard Hoggard is a fraud. Production has never even heard of him. I think he was just looking for some free self-promotion...."

Case closed....I hope.

Still have doubts for some reason :p, but that's what FOX is saying, so I guess I have to take their word for it.

What Ricky's connections to X3 are is still a mystery. I guess he just knows someone who's in the film, because he had the goods (photo wise).

[AgentEnforcer]

thought that was funny.. he so freely gave hims AIM sn to people but would never answer any when on.. all u get was a message leading u to a virus...

Ouch that sucks.

[bluewolv]

You know what is funny is that the entire time we thought he was really a part of X3 he wasn't listed in the imdb, but now that he has been discredited he is listed as being part of the cast...go figure

[Hugh'sMrs]

While I do believe that Fox did officially discredit this guy I still wonder why they went to the bother. They've never denied anyone works for them before so why this time? Also why aren't they making a specific statement about Spiderman_2? I'm guessing the comment 'don't believe all those set reports' are supposed to mean people like him but why be so vague and not specific like they were with RickyH?

[afmvdp]

because Ricky wasn't the average troll response of "a friend of a friend of mine is the third cousin of a person who works on the set for X3 and he told me...." it was someone who was actually claiming to be an actor IN the movie, and from the sound of it, SHH asked Fox for confirmation of whether or not he was in it, Fox responds saying no he's a fake, SHH Bans him. Pretty straight forward course of events.

[Octoberist]

Is really Ricky Hoggards though? Or some guy pretending to be him. I don't understand how someone could 'pretend' to be a unknown actor like that. I really doubt that the REAL Ricky could pull off something like this, BECAUSE it's well thought out as a prank.

It sounded more like a 40 something year old virgin living in his mom's basement who did it. I don't think that the real Ricky is that 'board savy'.

But then again, Retroman brought 'RickyH' here in private. So unless someone was posing to be Ricky the whole time (before he got here), that would be creepy. If it's the real Ricky, he needs a life.

[afmvdp]

nah it prolly is the real ricky and the kid prolly feels some personal scorn by fox because he didn't make it into the movies and wants to cause some chaos.

[GNR]

I will say one thing,EnSabaNur pointed out in another thread I think,that there have been several people in the past giving out false info concerning a movie.Most were able to post without being banned regardless of how much material they would "spill".So why now does Ricky get banned for supposedly giving out "spoilers"?This SM2 fellow is spilling what looks to be an entire movie and FOX,or the powers that be,are simply letting him post false information?That's just fishy my fellow hypsters.I know if someone was leaking truthful info,and I was a higher-up,I would definitely want that mouth shut.

[GNR]

Then,there's the whole other side of the story.If this guy was a fake,he is the biggest loser who has alot of time on his hands.

But,I am still 50/50.

[Octoberist]

GNR, I'm thinking the reason why Spiderman 2 is still here is because a lot people here fro m the get-go neve believed him. Even when Ricky H was still here.

Spiderman 2 is full of crap; I remembered that he stated that the report from xmenfilms.net were true (it was even in the original thread title!). Since those xmenfilm reports were from Ricky himself, that alone kills off spiderman 2's legit status.

[AgentEnforcer]

GNR, I'm thinking the reason why Spiderman 2 is still here is because a lot people here fro m the get-go neve believed him. Even when Ricky H was still here.

Spiderman 2 is full of crap; I remembered that he stated that the report from xmenfilms.net were true (it was even in the original thread title!). Since those xmenfilm reports were from Ricky himself, that alone kills off spiderman 2's legit status.

Then why don't you ASK SM2 that? Ask how could what he says be true if something he had previously reported was completely debunked in RickyH's case. Maybe you'll catch him in a lie... just don't be a ween about it when you ask. You could be the hero for finding out yet another fraud.

[-Æ-]

Got a point there, yet im pretty sure hes out on the fence (Spider_Man_2) about the subject at hand.

[Genosha]

I'm just amazed that Spidey 2 is able to retrieve so much info from his memory because he had to quickly give back the summary.

I'm still 50/50 on the whole Ricky thing. Something seems a little off and I don't think we have the full story from either side.

[Mr. Freeze]

What i wanna know is is there really a Ricky Hoggard??As in not this phoney on the boards but the actual actor himsellf. and if he does exsist is he indeed playing Avalanche iam still confused about that

[JP]

Then why don't you ASK SM2 that? Ask how could what he says be true if something he had previously reported was completely debunked in RickyH's case. Maybe you'll catch him in a lie... just don't be a ween about it when you ask. You could be the hero for finding out yet another fraud.

We've asked him all kinds of things of that nature. Not only does he not answer us, but the people who do belive him (God help them) bash us, and accuse us of 'flaming'. :o

[curiousgirl]

What i wanna know is is there really a Ricky Hoggard??As in not this phoney on the boards but the actual actor himsellf. and if he does exsist is he indeed playing Avalanche iam still confused about that
There is an actor with this name in IMDb. no entries.
Since a short time (yesterday or today) he is named for X-Men 3.
BUT: IMDb is a fan made site. Each special pro (forgot the term) can change the actors. All or the most off them are only fans.
In the past they had added a lot of false actors (like this girl from Lost...) and later erased them. The same with composer... role names... Normally far far behind other sites.
http://pro.imdb.com/name/nm1839845/

I am neutral. I like the changing in the mood, since he appeared firdt here. Had a good feeling, that the mood could stay positiv.
And i have no idea, if he is in or not or.... is it really important? The same with this other ... Very entertaining/interesting. Like reading a storiy, i have no idea, if he is real or not. We will see.

[AgentEnforcer]

We've asked him all kinds of things of that nature. Not only does he not answer us, but the people who do belive him (God help them) bash us, and accuse us of 'flaming'. :o

nah nah, all you guys gotta do is phrase the questions like your genuinely interested, and not trying to make the guy look like a fool. If everyone gets along, all questions will be answered. A BAD way of going about it, for example, would be to say "SM2, you didn't answer my question, you are a liar!" If he doesn't answer you just ask again, and keep asking. If someone flames to you for asking multiple times you just say, "He didn't answer the first time, I wanted to make sure he saw the question."

We can all get along and find out what we all need to know. :marv:

[JP]

nah nah, all you guys gotta do is phrase the questions like your genuinely interested, and not trying to make the guy look like a fool. If everyone gets along, all questions will be answered. A BAD way of going about it, for example, would be to say "SM2, you didn't answer my question, you are a liar!" If he doesn't answer you just ask again, and keep asking. If someone flames to you for asking multiple times you just say, "He didn't answer the first time, I wanted to make sure he saw the question."

We can all get along and find out what we all need to know. :marv:

I don't feel like waisting my time in such a sordid thread. :o

At least in the past our 'scoopers' tried to sound legit.

[pyromaniac]

Spiderman 2 is full of crap; I remembered that he stated that the report from xmenfilms.net were true (it was even in the original thread title!). Since those xmenfilm reports were from Ricky himself, that alone kills off spiderman 2's legit status.

I read that spiderman never even heard of Ricky till someone pointed that out. I could be wrong though.

As for why spiderman is still here - read my other post in his thread.

He hasn't much cause for a ban, because the circumstances are different. Spiderman, for all who he is, not exactly an 'insider', or part of the cast which was even verified by himself.

Ricky was much more involved, and that's another difference that should be noticed. I think that the nature of status, not of the content really distinguishes them both.

[RedIsNotBlue]

I still see no need to ban him if EVEN if he WAS a fake. I mean if spider-man2 can claim to know all of those things about X3 then why can't Ricky? Fishy fishy.

[logansoldcigar]

nah it prolly is the real ricky and the kid prolly feels some personal scorn by fox because he didn't make it into the movies and wants to cause some chaos.

Thats actually along the lines of what im wondering. was cast, and was in it, got some set pics through that, and then found out his scene(s) were gonna be cut. Got approached to come on here, and decided to tell everyone what they wanted to hear:
"are there sentinals, please tell me there are sentinals?" then comes out with a spiel and scene that sentinals are in. Does this a few times, and before we know where we are, peoples expectations of the film have reached a phantom menace point (where what people were expecting was beyond anything they were ever going to get). so they bad mouth it. and the hope is the bad word of mouth affects the BO.
Now, personally, i think the few hundred people on this site wont have that much effect. but thats just my opinion. there are people that think these boards have an inordinate amount of clout.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Thats actually along the lines of what im wondering. was cast, and was in it, got some set pics through that, and then found out his scene(s) were gonna be cut. Got approached to come on here, and decided to tell everyone what they wanted to hear:
"are there sentinals, please tell me there are sentinals?" then comes out with a spiel and scene that sentinals are in. Does this a few times, and before we know where we are, peoples expectations of the film have reached a phantom menace point (where what people were expecting was beyond anything they were ever going to get). so they bad mouth it. and the hope is the bad word of mouth affects the BO.
Now, personally, i think the few hundred people on this site wont have that much effect. but thats just my opinion. there are people that think these boards have an inordinate amount of clout.

A scene with a Sentinel HAS been filmed.

[Halcohol]

A scene with a Sentinel HAS been filmed.

I, along with many others on these boards, would like nothing more than to believe that, but can you prove it?

[RedIsNotBlue]

I, along with many others on these boards, would like nothing more than to believe that, but can you prove it?

I believe a respected source on here (not RickyH) confirmed it. I don't remember who said it though.

[Halcohol]

Well that's settled then. :up:

[Downhere]

Well, there were some reports of a Sentinal Head being moved around and things. So maybe the Sentinal talk is true.

[logansoldcigar]

A scene with a Sentinel HAS been filmed.

according to who?

I suspect/believe the source was a1ant. whom i have no beef with . But Ricky wotsit was providing him with a lot of info.

[GNR]

A scene with a Sentinel HAS been filmed.

Whoa,if you can back this up,I'll love you forever.

Someone on the HNR forums said something about a robot foam head replica,but that hasn't been confirmed.

There were rumours of a foot coming down on Wolvie in a car,with Storm pulling him out.That hasn't been confirmed either.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Whoa,if you can back this up,I'll love you forever.

Someone on the HNR forums said something about a robot foam head replica,but that hasn't been confirmed.

There were rumours of a foot coming down on Wolvie in a car,with Storm pulling him out.That hasn't been confirmed either.

Trust me.

[cookiva]

There was an article in the North Hollywood Report that said that X3 had asked an effects company to make a robotic head for X3.

[logansoldcigar]

It is pretty much confirmed. Retroman talked to someone who was close to the action. Here is the statement he gave:

As for the surprise, I've heard nothing about Gambit (don't confirm or deny) but I was the one who first noticed the upcoming shoot with the giant metal foot and realized it HAD to mean Sentinels!

and no chance that this someone was ricky wotsit? (who retroman brought to the boards. again, i have no beef with retro, so I hope it doesnt sound like i have)


edit: oooooooooooooooooo you realised that just as i was typing this out, didnt ya?

[RedIsNotBlue]

and no chance that this someone was ricky wotsit? (who retroman brought to the boards. again, i have no beef with retro, so I hope it doesnt sound like i have)


edit: oooooooooooooooooo you realised that just as i was typing this out, didnt ya?

The source was not Ricky. I was asked to take off that statement. So if you could please edit your post and remove it.

[GNR]

There was an article in the North Hollywood Report that said that X3 had asked an effects company to make a robotic head for X3.

That was actually someone posting on the HNR forums,not an actual article.

RedIsNotBlue,I want to trust you,lol,but how do you know they filmed a Sentinel scene already?

[Maze]

well ,even if i ask to take all that with a grain of salt, personnaly, i can believe that at least one sentinel is in the movie..

think about this:Kimsh of the " They're filming 2 scenes from X-Men 3 by my house! "Topic told that wolverine and storm are involved , and that there will be a street fight.

Ok , what did the Xmen.net told us some weeks ago? "that storm pull Wolverine from a car before it is crushed by a sentinel"

for me ,at least a sentinel is in..

edit : and that's why also i doubt that Ricky lied..i may be wrong ..but i doubt it ..

[MattC]

Ok , what did the Xmen.net told us some weeks ago? "that storm pull Wolverine from a car before it is crushed by a sentinel"

That was part of the info from Ricky i thought?

[Octoberist]

Honestly, that's interesting...if Kimshe is real. I do like her little faces (>_<) though. LOL.

Maze, I don't know what to think. If Kimshe is real, I'm going to question that Storm and Wolverine scene...

[NocturnalMadman]

Yea, all of it was bar the Wolvie in the woods/Omega people bit

[Maze]

That was part of the info from Ricky i thought?


yes , now that everybody knows it , i can say yes :D

(read my edit above please)

[Octoberist]

I want to ask Matt of Xverse a question:

Have you guys heard or even contact Darren from that one 'pulled' article? Fox asked you guys to remove the article a while back ago, even though the so called spoilers wasn't..that bad.

Can you contact him at all? We never had a follow up on that situation, or even Darren's take on what happened. I also think that if you did a follow up on this, people will question you guys less, because there were things within the article (Kea Wong, subtle hints of Gambit) that were questionable.

[MattC]

I want to ask Matt of Xverse a question:

Have you guys heard or even contact Darren from that one 'pulled' article? Fox asked you guys to remove the article a while back ago, even though the so called spoilers wasn't..that bad.

Can you contact him at all? We never had a follow up on that situation, or even Darren's take on what happened. I also think that if you did a follow up on this, people will question you guys less, because there were things within the article (Kea Wong, subtle hints of Gambit) that were questionable.

We spoke with him after the article was pulled and he reiterated that it had to be removed because he was in breach of the contract that all the extras had been made to sign which stated that NO discussion whatsoever of what happened on the set that day was permitted.

What specifically did you want me to contact him about? He no longer is able to discuss X3 because of being contacted by Fox and asked not to. It was one of the cases where Fox could see his name in the article, knew he had signed a contract and could contact him.

[Octoberist]

No No No. It's cool man. I was just wondering about that. Thanks man.

[MattC]

No No No. It's cool man. I was just wondering about that. Thanks man.

No problem! :)

[Octoberist]

Well.....

In that article, he did two things: Confirmed Kea and hinted at Gambit.

Now, I believe that Gambit is not in. Darren seems like a smart guy, but I've always wondered about his "Gambit" comment. Ted W. came here after the article was published and he stessed out that Darren was "unwilling" to talk about Gambit, not "unable".

To this day, a lot of the Gambit fans would use this as a...piece of evdence that he's in. To me, I don't know what to think. Maybe he saw somebody who 'looked' like him, but he can't be for sure. Since he's a legit source, there's SOME credit there.

So if I had a chance, I would ask him about that. (TOO BAD HE CAN'T).

I know he can't talk and you can't speak for him, but I want to hear your take on that. I find it weird and it's always been a loophole in the rumors, and I don't know if you or Ted addressed it or not.

Thanks anyway, Matt.

[MattC]

I just wrote a huge post that is now lost due to my internet connected. ARGH.

He said Kea was there based on a picture of her we showed him from X2, he said that he was very sure of that being her.


The way I interpret the Gambit situation is:

* They maybe wanted him in X2 and threw around the idea to have him in X3 in the early stages.

* When people were speaking about X3 last year/earlier this year he was still included in some small role. They then decided that he wasn't really going to fit with the rewrites and that with the amount of stories they already have to tell in the movie it would be bad to bring him in this time and not do him justice.

* Ralph confirms that Gambit won't be in this movie but possibly the next.

* Zak is now able, because Ralph has spoken publically about it, to confirm that Gambit isn't involved and elaborates slightly.

It is the way Zak answers the question that should confirm to people that he won't be in the movie. If he was then Zak wouldn't have been able to elaborate on it (he could have easily chosen not to discuss the issue anyway). I have never heard people speak very much about the characters they are trying to hide, they usually stick to "no comment" or "we aren't allowed to disclose that information at this time". Why would Zak bother to outright lie to us over choosing to not answer that question? He offered up the reason why Gambit was cut which to me means he was cut.

If Gambit was in the movie then, despite their efforts to hide it, we would probably have casting news already. Also, why choose to hide a possibly minor cameo by Gambit yet reveal all the other new characters?

[Mr. Freeze]

So right now we have no clue wheter Avalanche,Scarelett Witch are in the movie or not????

[MattC]

So right now we have no clue wheter Avalanche,Scarelett Witch are in the movie or not????

If you believe that I was told by several sources (Fox, Ralph..) that Avalanche is not in the movie and that SHH! were told the same thing then no he isn't. Not sure on Scarlett Witch because that was a rumor circulated originally by Ricky, whether there is really someone playing that character we don't know yet.

[spideyboy_1111]

well we heard no RICKY not no AVALANCHE.... soooo i think thats still up in the air

[Balthus Dire]

This is all brilliant publicity for the movie.


:)

[tedw]

Just to answer Octoberist with a thought of mine:

I sent Darren a 2x3 picture grid of six kids and asked for visual confirmation on their cameos. I included Jubilee, Colossus, Jones, Artie, Siryn and Kitty (Ellen Page). He seemed not to be entirely sure about Artie or Jones, but was fairly sure about seeing Ellen and the other three. I can't speak for how close he was to the actors and what interaction he had (I don't believe extras are generally supposed/allowed to interact with the main cast outside of their directed actions).

Darren specifically asked me not to say "unable" in my article, but rather to say "unwilling". I don't think this is because he had special details about Gambit, but because Gambit falls under different rules than the student cameos I mentioned. Those kids are established roles, as are all of the main cast that places like Variety confirm. But if Gambit were in, he'd be a new, "secret" character for them to reveal. I get the impression that Darren wanted "unwilling" used so that any studio employees or production crew reading the article might know that whatever details he knows, he has decided NOT to discuss this character out of respect of his NDA.

It's like me saying, "I know who dies in the film, but I'm not willing to discuss this," versus me saying, "I don't know anything about who dies." The second implies that if I knew, I'd spill the beans. The first one says that I'm trying to be respectful of the rules. I think he wanted people to know that he wasn't going to talk about any big details, whether he knew them or not.

Does this make sense? At the time, I had hopes that it meant that he knew something and it certainly might've said something better about his inclusion. Darren was trying to go by the rules of his NDA and answer questions for us. He was great about working with us to provide what info he felt he could. :)

P.S. I've rambled a bit, maybe... my point is that we might've read too much into that Gambit comment. ;)

[Specter313]

well we heard no RICKY not no AVALANCHE.... soooo i think thats still up in the air

No, they made it a point both times when they said Ricky wasn't in, to say that Avalanche was not in as well.

[GNR]

This is all brilliant publicity for the movie.


:)

Ya Damn Right!

[Octoberist]

thanks Ted w. for clearing that up.

[Mr. Freeze]

Damn it i wanted to See Avalanche really badly.......

[RedIsNotBlue]

Well I know some of you could care a less about IMDB but they have Ricky Hoggard listed in the X3 cast as Avalanche.

[Star]

isnt imdb ...fan-run?
like no one official? mind you, what IS official these days. Until i see his name on the x-men official site i am just going to.... not believe anything about the whole ricky incident

[RedIsNotBlue]

isnt imdb ...fan-run?
like no one official? mind you, what IS official these days. Until i see his name on the x-men official site i am just going to.... not believe anything about the whole ricky incident

That is what I referred to in the FIRST HALF of my sentence. I said some people on here care care a less what they say.

[Crimson Warrior]

The problem with IMDB for movies still in production is that they allow users tp submit info about movies without double checking it. I could submit my name as Spike and its possible that they would post it.

[spideyboy_1111]

egh.. regardless i still think a mutant cameo will be avalanche... even if its just a name or someone using similar powers

[Star]

That is what I referred to in the FIRST HALF of my sentence. I said some people on here care care a less what they say.


yeah yeah i got you
i dont know, lately i've been in a rage towards IMDB
ever since they listed cyclops as 'Scott 'Slim' Summers/Cyclops' any mention of IMDB sends me raging... :O

[RedIsNotBlue]

yeah yeah i got you
i dont know, lately i've been in a rage towards IMDB
ever since they listed cyclops as 'Scott 'Slim' Summers/Cyclops' any mention of IMDB sends me raging... :O

They fixed that. And why would that make you mad?

[RedIsNotBlue]

The problem with IMDB for movies still in production is that they allow users tp submit info about movies without double checking it. I could submit my name as Spike and its possible that they would post it.

Well on the boards they are aware of the "Ricky" situation yet he is still up there.

[Star]

They fixed that. And why would that make you mad?


Actually, i'm not really sure. I just remember that when they had all those weird nicknames up there I ...was in a rage? I even started a thread on IMDB complaining about it haha....

I think mainly because they never have and probably never WILL use those nicknames in the movies.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Actually, i'm not really sure. I just remember that when they had all those weird nicknames up there I ...was in a rage? I even started a thread on IMDB complaining about it haha....

I think mainly because they never have and probably never WILL use those nicknames in the movies.

They weren't weird...they were their actual names and nicknames.

[Star]

They weren't weird...they were their actual names and nicknames.

when (in the movies) do you think they're going to be referring to scott as 'slim' :P

[pyromaniac]

I think mainly because they never have and probably never WILL use those nicknames in the movies.

... Only as a nod to the comics should they chơose to use them so, of course.
Something akin to that of the 'yellow spandex' line of X1.

[RedIsNotBlue]

They probably won't. But it is his nickname.

[Star]

yeah, i suppose
i dont know, i like to see the comics/movies as a completely different thing for some strange reason...
i'm not sure, i just can't picture them calling james marsden 'slim'
or mystique 'raven'

just because of the way the first two films were, it just... doesnt seem to fit?
It's probably just me though

[Specter313]

Well on the boards they are aware of the "Ricky" situation yet he is still up there.

Pfft, the people who run imdb don't pay attention to the boards unless they get massive abuse reports for someone.

Actually, i'm not really sure. I just remember that when they had all those weird nicknames up there I ...was in a rage? I even started a thread on IMDB complaining about it haha....

Did you use the same name as you do here?

[Mr. Freeze]

Damn i was looking foward to the supposed brawl at the mansion involving pyro avalanche,juggernaut, scarelet witch vs jubilee,rouge,colossus,iceman

[Maze]

Mr. Freeze]Damn i was looking foward to the supposed brawl at the mansion involving pyro avalanche,juggernaut, scarelet witch vs jubilee,rouge,colossus,iceman
FROM Mr. FreezeAll i know is he played all you guys..... i mean damna he strait up made you guys look stupid not to mention he is probaly laugning his ass off when he realizes how much of a commotion he started by having his own thread were people are discussing his legitamacy....Man he was one smart mofo to fool you guys like he did

Holy crap to tell ya the truth i am impressed,

I mean i have seen people come on these boards and claim **** and of course you guys believe it.....but this guy took it to another level


I hope you guys feel ashamed on how well he conned you guys into believing....to put it in simple terms he won you guys lost badly............

By the way seeing is how all that **** he said was bs.. for all we know the movie might suck because everything so far could be total bull****


I mean he got you guys so well because you all believed it so well... maybe it was because he was telling you guys what you wanted to hear.. i dont know but i hope you guys feel stupid


Cuse i not once amazingly beleived it i mean sure i said it sounds cool and hoped it was true but i knew from day one he was a fraud.

:p :up:

[RedIsNotBlue]

Bwahahahahahaha.

[Star]

Did you use the same name as you do here?

no, my IMDB nickname is watersmells_likesky

[tromeo]

is justin timberlake still doing the soundtrack for the movies?
:up:

[Crimson Warrior]

LOL I remember that one^ and that guy who's picture was posted on the X3 page.

[The Geek Vault]

I was never sure about this guy. This does sound fishy. So does that mean that we won't see marrow or scarlet witch. Also does this mean that there's a chance professer X might now die and it will be someone else. Third does this mean that omega red and gaunlet aren't in it.

[BigMac]

It means we no jack about the movie. Thats about all we have marvelman. As with every movie and every rumor. Take everything with a grain of salt. It makes things so much easier.

[Endeavor]

I heard a certain someone came by to stir things back up again... Too bad I missed him.

[Specter313]

I heard a certain someone came by to stir things back up again... Too bad I missed him.

Ya didn't miss much. It was basically him saying he was pissed that people were talking about him so negatively since he was never mean to anyone. He seems to have missed the point that it's not that he wasn't mean to anyone, but he was telling us stuff that is apparently flat out false. People don't enjoy being d!cked around like that, and when they learn you were lying, they're not gonna be so friendly with their words. Also, he said that he gave out fake agent info on purpose or something to that effect. He also admitted that he was drunk while he was typing that, so I don't know how he expected anyone to take him seriously. No offense Ricky, since you said you're also lurking still, but there's just too much going against you for me to believe you.

[cookiva]

Where did he post?

[Endeavor]

Ah, so he admitted to lying about the Agent Info. I was online when he originally posted that information. He answered the question very fast and very precisely. That just proves one thing, he's a seasoned liar... I guess the steps I took by calling that agency don't look so extreme now, huh?

[Specter313]

Where did he post?

He came back with the sn Ricky Hoggard, and started a whole thread about it. Forget what it was called, but it looks like the mods deleted it since last night.

[cookiva]

Oh, I wasnt even on at all last night. Damn, I wanted to see it!

[Angry Sentinel]

Does anyone else remember the time he mentioned he got his hand slapped for saying too much? I was online at the time but I cant remember his exact comments!

[cookiva]

He said that he "was afraid that Fox would react as they did when he revealed himself as Avalance", when talking about Scarlet Witch. Something like that.

[Endeavor]

Does anyone else remember the time he mentioned he got his hand slapped for saying too much? I was online at the time but I cant remember his exact comments!


Here it is:
I just got *****ed at on the phone LOL. Nothing bad, they got mad at me revealing my self into the public eye at hype. But they just told me to tone down what I say, and its cool, and that i'll be leaving tomorrow to go to Vancouver.

[cookiva]

Sweet, thanks Endeavor!

[Endeavor]

By the way, before we start getting comments defending his lie about the Agent, let me get a jump on that conversation.

Go here: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196569&page=21&pp=25 and focus on page 21.
Ricky was answering questions, in specific from AgentEnforcer. Now as you may remember there was minor animosity between spider_man_2 and RickyH, because Ricky was saying that Spider2 was a fake and spider2 didn't appreciate that. AgentEnforcer believed spider_man_2 at that point in time (I don't know if he still does) and he was drilling Ricky to see if Ricky was a fake. It was Agent Enforcer who asked Ricky about his agent/representation and it took Ricky all of 4 minutes to asnwer the question. Notice how he later further elaborates on the lie by giving a scenario of how he got to be involved with CED. This folks is not a simple cover up because somebody doesn't want to give out sensitive information, this is an elaborate lie trumped up to make himself look legit, and one which obviously had thought out before because he probably anticipated the question. If Ricky truly did not have anything to hide and he just didn't feel right about giving out his true agent infomation then all he had to do was say "I can't give you that information", not build up some very elaborate lie just so he can give out the ilussion of legitimacy.
Maybe now you guys will believe those of us that tell you the lengths to which these people go, just to fool others and get them to believe their lies.

[Angry Sentinel]

He said that he "was afraid that Fox would react as they did when he revealed himself as Avalance", when talking about Scarlet Witch. Something like that. But who was it that slapped his hands (supposedly). Could it have been the real Ricky? Maybe his real inside source? Maybe he was his own inside source.

Say you were in that production and wanted to put a lot of info online (for attention, revenge or whatever). Wouldnt you use a made up name, Identity, give false information about your background? Your smart enough to know that word would get back to FOX, so dont you "play the game"! I still remember all the times he would post that he was gonna be on set, was that just to throw off the people trying to figure out who this Ricky was that was posting on SHH?

I'm not saying I believe, but there's always room for possibilities...

(just ignore me, I'm being the devil's advocate today)

[-Æ-]

Ah, so he admitted to lying about the Agent Info. I was online when he originally posted that information. He answered the question very fast and very precisely. That just proves one thing, he's a seasoned liar... I guess the steps I took by calling that agency don't look so extreme now, huh?

Ive read the thread before they deleted it, and I dont remeber reading he admitted to lying. I know he said that to wait for the movie to release to see if he is lying or not (not in that same context) yet you get the point.

[cookiva]

By the way, before we start getting comments defending his lie about the Agent, let me get a jump on that conversation.

Go here: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196569&page=21&pp=25 and focus on page 21.
Ricky was answering questions, in specific from AgentEnforcer. Now as you may remember there was minor animosity between spider_man_2 and RickyH, because Ricky was saying that Spider2 was a fake and spider2 didn't appreciate that. AgentEnforcer believed spider_man_2 at that point in time (I don't know if he still does) and he was drilling Ricky to see if Ricky was a fake. It was Agent Enforcer who asked Ricky about his agent/representation and it took Ricky all of 4 minutes to asnwer the question. Notice how he later further elaborates on the lie by giving a scenario of how he got to be involved with CED. This folks is not a simple cover up because somebody doesn't want to give out sensitive information, this is an elaborate lie trumped up to make himself look legit, and one which obviously had thought out before because he probably anticipated the question. If Ricky truly did not have anything to hide and he just didn't feel right about giving out his true agent infomation then all he had to do was say "I can't give you that information", not build up some very elaborate lie just so he can give out the ilussion of legitimacy.
Maybe now you guys will believe those of us that tell you the lengths to which these people go, just to fool others and get them to believe their lies.

I know that hes a fake, but that wasnt what did it for me.

[Endeavor]

Ive read the thread before they deleted it, and I dont remeber reading he admitted to lying. I know he said that to wait for the movie to release to see if he is lying or not (not in that same context) yet you get the point.

- I've had 3 people tell me (here and in PMs) that in that deleted thread he admitted to having lied about the agent information because supposedly "that information is too sensitive to give away online".

- I don't have to wait for the movie. We already have proof that he's lied to us before. That's good enough for me.

[-Æ-]

- I've had 3 people tell me (here and in PMs) that in that deleted thread he admitted to having lied about the agent information because supposedly "that information is too sensitive to give away online".

- I don't have to wait for the movie. We already have proof that he's lied to us before. That's good enough for me.

Well I can understand fibbing about Agent info, that giving just too much away, although theres other ways to find out what type of Agency some one is working for. Just because he lied about that, doesn't mean he is lying about the other stuff. Im being a skeptic here, but he did give us alot of good info, which alot of it now is starting to link up with current news that we are getting now.

[Angry Sentinel]

He definitely lied about who he was! no doubt, but my devil's advocate is wondering about the info. THERE IS NO-WAY YOU CAN COME ONLINE AND BE YOURSELF AND GIVE OUT THAT MUCH INFO. So that lie in particular actually makes sense. I'm sure he made stuff up, if it were Ian Mckellan himself he would be smart enough to do that.

So the question is, how likely are we to see a lot of what this guy...forecasted coming true in May?

(keep in mind he is the only one, to date, that has ben removed on request by FOX for fibbing, pictures banned, threads deleted. I'll admit I didnt believe him from a monkey on the corner, until he got some serious attention. With the only explanation being he lied about who he was(and like a million other trolls havent done that). These types of things could be just the way they seem, or they could be...C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y...

[cookiva]

I dont believe who he is, but what he said is the questionable thing. From him, we got MM rumors proved, Omege Red pics, and another bit of info (scarlet witch), which could be proved true soon.

[Endeavor]

Well I can understand fibbing about Agent info, that giving just too much away, although theres other ways to find out what type of Agency some one is working for. Just because he lied about that, doesn't mean he is lying about the other stuff. Im being a skeptic here, but he did give us alot of good info, which alot of it now is starting to link up with current news that we are getting now.

You didn't understand what I wrote in my longer post, or my reason for posting it. The excuse that "that information is too sensitive" is just a bullsh|it coverup because he was caught with his pants down. He LIED because he wanted to make himself look legit. If the information truly is too sensitive to give out then all he had to do was say THAT in his answer to AgentEnforcer. But he didn't. He made up a very complex lie that he continued to elaborate on in further posts. That just shows he's a good liar.
As far as believing everything else he said (don't call it "good info" until it's confirmed to be factual), all we have to go on is this person's word. He offered no proof besides the pictures he gave to XFM. As we've discussed before, there are many possible scenarios of possibilities of how he could have gotten his hands on those pictures. In fact, he lied to Ant when he gave them because he told ant they were ok to post, yet the publicist that ant has been in touch with told him that anybody working in the production would know thatis not the case because they've all been instructed on the matter (so that's another lie right there).
Simply said, trust is the only thing he had going for him. I don't know about you, but I can't trust a person whom I know has lied to me before.

[-Æ-]

or they could be...C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y...


C- Constantly

O- optioning

N- negative

S- streaming

P- preventing

I- inside

R- radical

A- assumptions

C- convertly

Y- yondered

[Endeavor]

I dont believe who he is, but what he said is the questionable thing. From him, we got MM rumors proved, Omege Red pics, and another bit of info (scarlet witch), which could be proved true soon.

A couple of things:

- The MM rummors and "sightings" had been circling the net way before Ricky joined us here at SHH. He didn't really give us a scoop, it was more like building up on what was being rummored elsewhere. As far as him confirming MM. I don't know if he gave the actors name who is currently associated with the character, but even if that was him I have yet to hear official confirmation that that guy is in fact playing MM

- The Omega Red picture shows that he or somebody he knows had access to the closed set. But they don't confirm anything he said about the plot, besides the fact that a couple of guys with the Omega Red symbol COULD end up being in the movie. Before you say that he gave a valid scoop, wait for confirmation on the stuff that he described on the indo he gave to Ant.

- Scarlet Witch hasn't been confirmed. Even if she ends up being in the film, Ricky wasnt the first person to start mentioning her either.

[Angry Sentinel]

C- Constantly

O- optioning

N- negative

S- streaming

P- preventing

I- inside

R- radical

A- assumptions

C- convertly

Y- yondered Sentinel LOL@ -Æ-, yeah that's what I was sayin:cool:

Hey bud, you still in the Avatar making business.. I may be looking for a new one!

[Maze]

the ricky thread has been deleted? :confused:

Why didn't they merge it with this one?

and after that , they want us to believe that there is not something fishy lol

[skippysuperfly]

if it were Ian Mckellan himself he would be smart enough to do that.

So are you saying that RickyH is Ian McKellan?

(This is how rumors get started.)

[-Æ-]

Sentinel LOL@ -Æ-, yeah that's what I was sayin:cool:

Hey bud, you still in the Avatar making business.. I may be looking for a new one!


Yep im still in the biz Angry Sentinel. How can I be of assitance?

[The Original Bamfer]

I'd be interested as well... something terrific for my new style ;) a cool NC pic or something 75x75 :D

If ya don't want to, its quite alright :up:

[-Æ-]

I think I can be of assitance to all

[The Original Bamfer]

Great! :up:

[cookiva]

Hey AE, you think that you might be able to make me one when you are done? I dont want to have ppl spam you, so if you are too busy, its all good.

[-Æ-]

Ok, when I get back today around 8pm cst I should have something for yall, these are some homemade creations, hope yall likes...be back soon gotta go out of town

[heck13r]

Jeez just google the dude.
he's in wikipedia listed as a cast member
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men#X-Men_3
his biography on tv.com
http://www.tv.com/richard-hoggard/person/338003/biography.html
some interesting facts

[Specter313]

Jeez just google the dude.
he's in wikipedia listed as a cast member
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men#X-Men_3
his biography on tv.com
http://www.tv.com/richard-hoggard/person/338003/biography.html
some interesting facts

Anyone can add anything to Wikipedia. If I wanted to, I could add Rosie O'donnell as playing the Blob.

Tv.com, formerly tvtome.com, is the sister site of Movietome.com, who has Lindsey Lohan playing Jubilee. Still think they're trustworthy?

[ljr]

Lol,is anyone trustworthy on the net.

[heck13r]

that was just crap i found on google.. dont really know the history of any the sites that popped up on there.. just thought it was interesting several sites had him listed as avalanche

[Retroman]

The site also lists Kelly Hu and Bruce Davison. That takes it's credibilty down a notch..

[Genosha]

Its too bad Ricky isn't in it. I would've loved to see some Avalanche action.

And also, I liked the ideas he threw out of X3 being a huge WAR movie.

[xwolverine2]

i bet there gonna make a made for tv movie about this "incident"

fox presents----"THE RICKY INCIDENT" rated TVMA

[Kanon]

I still see no need to ban him if EVEN if he WAS a fake. I mean if spider-man2 can claim to know all of those things about X3 then why can't Ricky? Fishy fishy.
I Agree. There's absolubtely no reaon to ban him except he is someone else impersonating Ricky Hoggard. If he is Ricky, or his nick doesn't point to a real person, then why the ban? Because he posted details, true or not, about the movie? In the case that information were highly sensitive for someone, I think the apropiate action from the adm would have been to remove the material from the board at most. The only side it could have wanted to ban Ricky Hoggard is whosever is damaged by that information (true or not) being spread, call it Fox, X3 producers or god-kows-who-else. I'm not saying what he says is real or not, just saying that what he did wasn't enough for a ban, unless he is actually R.Hoggard (or someone with true information) AND the damaged side were those dictating the rules of the board.

Anyways... Is there anyway to get those Omega Red photos? :D

[bosef982]

This is still going on...hmm...

[Retroman]

After a brief return Ricky has been banned for second time. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204431&page=3

What do you make of this??

[Pierce_Bond]

Just another example of 'the man' trying to opress us........man - We're gonna stick it to the man one of these days. Believe me.......filthy corperation , trying to destroy society

[Halcohol]

I am firmly of the opinion that I have no opinion.

We wait for official confirmation of anything... he's been banned, we're not 100% positive why, so either one of two possibilities:

1) He was telling the truth and needed to be silenced... sort of a Krystallnacht type thing, or

2) He was full of *****, meaning he a) wasn't in the movie or b) wasn't Ricky Hoggard.

I'm not dealing with this anymore. While the ideas he brings up are intriguing, I'm not buying into anything until we get the word from up on high.

[MattC]

Not that I wish to continue discussing him but I just wanted to respond to something he said in the closed thread:

and the fact that I said Eric Dane was in, and Ted/Matt said it was impossible that he was in, cause he was doing a movie in europe?

Impossible, they said. They also claimed I wasn't in the movie, but yeah, so did Hype. so you know what, I don't blame people for not believing me, nor do I care. But
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204431&page=5&pp=25

I don't recall EVER using that phrasing, in fact what I posted is here:

Ant, was the Eric Dane casting news from him as well? Because I have to say that it surprised me a bit, Eric is filming in Malta currently (although he could obviously film scenes when he gets back).
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6796207&postcount=199

I never said it was impossible, I merely said it surprised me. I hate it when people put words into my mouth, especially when they are lies. I still stand by him not being in the movie, but won't be discussing him further. I just wanted to clear this up as I hate it when people make out I say things I haven't.

[Halcohol]

In MALTA?

What, you have something against the MALTESE people? What, are you racist or something? What did the MALTESE people ever do to YOU, huh?

mattc eats babies.

I'm not putting words in your mouth, you said them here:


I hate Malta and I eat babies.


Oh, by the way, you can twist people's words on this board here. Hell, you can even make things up to look like people said something.

*note* Mattc did not ever say, nor did he endorse the above statements. If I've offended you, matt, I apologize. Oh, Ricky didn't say those things either. But he's not here.

[NocturnalMadman]

A couple weeks ago, when he was signed on msn, his handle was "My name's not Ricky, it's Pierre lol"

...dunno what to make of that

[Quing]

I believe that is a joke, NocturnalMadman. Hence the "lol."

[BigMac]

I would pay good money to never see Ricky or this thread again.

[conan69]

"Does anyone else remember the time he mentioned he got his hand slapped for saying too much? I was online at the time but I cant remember his exact comments!"

He said Fox had talked to him abotu giving out too much info on the boards. When he leaked the Scarlett Witch info he was going to give the actress name, but was told by Fox not to(so he said).

"I still see no need to ban him if EVEN if he WAS a fake. I mean if spider-man2 can claim to know all of those things about X3 then why can't Ricky? Fishy fishy."

Becuase Rick has been officially discredited and Spiderman2 hasnt....yet.

Thats the difference.

He never provided a copy or partial copy of his contract and I always thought it was strange that he never had any pics of himself. Espeically for someone trying to get into the business.

[Mr. Freeze]

That is interesting how spidey 2 has not been discredited ...yet

But how come he hads stopped giving all this info????Rickh incident scare him off or something

[Feyd Rautha]

Hey, who said those awful things about Malta? I'm Maltese, and i've been there a few times. It's a babesville. ;)

About Ricky? I don't know, I'm 50-50. Ricky constantly being banned here is throwing me off, otherwise he does sound convincing in many areas. Time will tell...

Btw, he apparantly PMed someone about a Gambit cameo? How can this be if he's out of the movie...unless he has a meaningless 2 second cameo? kind of like Colossus in X1?

[ichorinmyveins]

what about testing the water about this Ricky issue. Say someone would make an xmen message board, invite Ricky, people from here would let him talk and post anything he provides... and wait what will happen?

[Halcohol]

The start of the SHH Civil War, that's what.

[ichorinmyveins]

I don't think we're stupid here. We'll just play along,only matured people could come. What I want to find out if indeed Fox will contact the admin and would ask to ban Ricky. And if they do that, it'd mean that Ricky is indeed a great threat. SHH is saying that it's its decision to ban him and FOX has nothing to do with it.

[logansoldcigar]

on the whole "he lied about his agent" thing, just to comment, cos i actually couldnt care less if he was genuine of not, rather than give a fake agent's details, wouldnt it have been easier to say "sorry, Im not telling anyone who my agent is, you can either believe im genuine, or not believe im genuine, it doesnt bother me either way", rather than that whole spiel about that he ended up doing?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

That is interesting how spidey 2 has not been discredited ...yet

But how come he hads stopped giving all this info????Rickh incident scare him off or something

Or maybe hes a fake 2 & stopped while he did so he dont get bashed as bad ?

[spider_man_2]

No, actually I just got tired of all the incessant bashing. It's not in my nature to come to a place with good intentions and stay there despite being attacked because of those same good intentions.

And, you know, in a way RickyH really *is* Avalanche... He did create a landslide in this board after all...

[ljr]

But spidey you backed him up on the whole mansion thing and you claimed avalanche was in.But we haven't heard any confirmation that any of the characters you mentioned are in.I'm not calling you a liar,But I think whoi ever gave you the script review was pulling your leg.

[spider_man_2]

I don't know how he come across that same information that I provided, but the truth is that I was surprised to see him posting it online practically at the same time I was reading it in the physical world. Parts of his scoop were very legit-looking. So yes, I backed him up in regards to certain things. He certainly brought a lot of new info into the mix in the form of cast pictures and information, while I merely had access to a shooting script... *However*, what I didn't enjoy at all about him was his personality, whereas he (and a few others; you know who you are) kept nagging me and calling me a fake when, to the best of my knowledge, I am not lying to any of you.

I do not know Ricky H personally nor do I know if he is truly the Richard Hoggard that was cast to play Avalanche. I didn't even know who had been cast for that part until I made acquaintance with him, but rest assured, Avalanche *is* in the movie. At one point, I tried contacting Ricky H via PM (several times) to find out how he got his information but got no response from him. I've read somewhere in this topic about that theory where he is either impersonating the real Richard Hoggard (hence the banning, but legit-ing the info) or someone close to the actor who had access to all that stuff. Either of these two theories seems likely.

Unfortunately, this is one of those cases where time will *not* tell...

[ljr]

I know but the script you got must have gone through major rewrites before shooting cause all the scoops we've got don't tally with it.As for ricky-who the hell knows what is going on with that-it's a mystery,one i've given up trying to solve.

[spider_man_2]

Yes, it is likely that the script has suffered some (major?) changes. I never said it wouldn't. But you'll probably be surprised to see how much of my information was accurate when you watch the final cut of X3 next year.

[ljr]

It might be but so far none of it has been confirmed.But it could just be fox knowing it was general knowledge and delibitly keeping that info back until nearer release.So they don't have to admit they have a leak.

[-Æ-]

Yeah I think thats pretty true, there is alot of backlot nonsense on the x3 movie. With that report that Retroman put up about the director being novice ie it doesnt really prove anything (because singer was sorta wet behind the ears in action), yet there is a underlining feel that alot of this info present from all of these sources, is putting a strain on FOX creditbility.

Yet, I don't know, I really don't have access to info and such like other players here (mattc, alant1, retroman, etc). Hopefully if there still planning on releasing the character info at the end of the week, hopefully we get a decent list of characters involved in the upcoming movie.

Also, I do believe this is one of those situations were time *will tell the truth about all of this.

[TNC9852002]

I think they were talking about the second unit director..That is, even if the report was true..

-TNC

[RedIsNotBlue]

Hey I am sorry for bringing this old topic back up again but I have something to add.

If Ricky is indeed a fake why hasn't Fox released any public statement or anything denouncing Ricky? I mean a couple of people involved in the movie have already stated that Gambit is not in. Why couldn't they do the same for Avalanche? Just gets me thinking thats all.

[newwaveboy87]

Hey I am sorry for bringing this old topic back up again but I have something to add.

If Ricky is indeed a fake why hasn't Fox released any public statement or anything denouncing Ricky? I mean a couple of people involved in the movie have already stated that Gambit is not in. Why couldn't they do the same for Avalanche? Just gets me thinking thats all.

cause Ricky is only causing waves in a small community. it's too petty for them to intervene just yet.

[RedIsNotBlue]

cause Ricky is only causing waves in a small community. it's too petty for them to intervene just yet.

Not petty enough to call him a fake and have him banned though.

[newwaveboy87]

they cut it off at the head before it became an even bigger problem and he got SHH! into trouble.

[RedIsNotBlue]

they cut it off at the head before it became an even bigger problem and he got SHH! into trouble.

i still don't understand why Fox couldn't exclusively give SHH! to put on their front page but oh well. The confusion continues.

[aaron]

well im pretty sure hes in the movie ,i trust ricky

[Specter313]

Not petty enough to call him a fake and have him banned though.

Fox didn't have him banned. How many times did the mods say it? It was their choice, not Fox's. They just let SHH know he was a fake, like Xverse, and it was SHH's choice to ban him.

And like newwave said, it was a small isolated incident. Not that many people knew about this whole debacle outiside of these message boards, so why address it at a bigger level? That's only going to cause more questions to come up with many more people, and will blow the whole issue into something bigger than it already was. We don't need that.

[aaron]

what im stomped about, is why shh would believe fox anyways, theyve told lies before to cover things up

[newwaveboy87]

what i'm stumped by is why people believed Ricky in the first place

[RedIsNotBlue]

Fox didn't have him banned. How many times did the mods say it? It was their choice, not Fox's. They just let SHH know he was a fake, like Xverse, and it was SHH's choice to ban him.

And like newwave said, it was a small isolated incident. Not that many people knew about this whole debacle outiside of these message boards, so why address it at a bigger level? That's only going to cause more questions to come up with many more people, and will blow the whole issue into something bigger than it already was. We don't need that.

Indirectly or not Fox caused the ban of RickyH. Okay...it was a small isolated incident. Couldn't have someone from Fox just made a statement for this forum to see?

[RedIsNotBlue]

what i'm stumped by is why people believed Ricky in the first place

He has given us pics and info in which most have been pretty much confirmed.

[The Original Bamfer]

Eck, thats the situation, indeed... on the surface. That is the visible truth. But few know Ricky to the level I do, and I don't rarely trust people. But the so-called-imposter is actually Ricky Hoggard. I can prove that. Whether he is in the movie or not, well, a ton of signs point to the fact that he is. I haven't gathered anything to make me think otherwise. Some kid wouldn't waste his time pretending to be who he's not for so long, and do it so masterfully as well as predicting true info. When you find something that proves him flase, le tme know...


Sorry if that was extremely repetative... :p

[aaron]

he is obviously involved someway, no one can deny that

[RedIsNotBlue]

Eck, thats the situation, indeed... on the surface. That is the visible truth. But few know Ricky to the level I do, and I don't rarely trust people. But the so-called-imposter is actually Ricky Hoggard. I can prove that. Whether he is in the movie or not, well, a ton of signs point to the fact that he is. I haven't gathered anything to make me think otherwise. Some kid wouldn't waste his time pretending to be who he's not for so long, and do it so masterfully as well as predicting true info. When you find something that proves him flase, le tme know...


Sorry if that was extremely repetative... :p

:up:

[newwaveboy87]

people can deny it, and will deny it.
the only thing 100% confirmed that he told us was Multiple Man/Eric Dane.

[aaron]

Eck, thats the situation, indeed... on the surface. That is the visible truth. But few know Ricky to the level I do, and I don't rarely trust people. But the so-called-imposter is actually Ricky Hoggard. I can prove that. Whether he is in the movie or not, well, a ton of signs point to the fact that he is. I haven't gathered anything to make me think otherwise. Some kid wouldn't waste his time pretending to be who he's not for so long, and do it so masterfully as well as predicting true info. When you find something that proves him flase, le tme know...


Sorry if that was extremely repetative... :p

:):):):)

[The Original Bamfer]

Actually, he told me that one of the leather suited girls were probably going to be Juggernaut's "lackey" weeks before it was confirmed...

[Specter313]

Some kid wouldn't waste his time pretending to be who he's not for so long, and do it so masterfully as well as predicting true info. When you find something that proves him flase, le tme know...

No offense, but by that logic, that guy over at Can Mag wouldn't waste his time making up all that stuff he did unless he was telling the truth. We've had plenty tell us he's false, and that he is a masterful liar(the incident with the agency), plus actual word from people making the movie that he is not in. That should be enough for anybody. Like you said, he's obviously Ricky, but seems to be someone just trying to get his name out there.

[Specter313]

Indirectly or not Fox caused the ban of RickyH. Okay...it was a small isolated incident. Couldn't have someone from Fox just made a statement for this forum to see?

They did. They told SHH he was telling lies. Isn't that statement enough? Why go out of the way to make some big official thing for one tiny little liar? He wasn't worth it.

He has given us pics and info in which most have been pretty much confirmed.

He gave us pics that anyone at that set could have taken, whether they were involved with the movie or just a visitor, and has only given us one thing that was confirmed to be true, as newwave stated.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

No offense, but by that logic, that guy over at Can Mag wouldn't waste his time making up all that stuff he did unless he was telling the truth. We've had plenty tell us he's false, and that he is a masterful liar(the incident with the agency), plus actual word from people making the movie that he is not in. That should be enough for anybody. Like you said, he's obviously Ricky, but seems to be someone just trying to get his name out there.

100 % agreed

[Kanon]

But the so-called-imposter is actually Ricky Hoggard. I can prove that. Whether he is in the movie or not, well, a ton of signs point to the fact that he is.
:eek:
Ok, I kinda believe RickyH at some level, but I have two questions that don't let me believe in his story
1)If I had a part in X3, as a know character (with name, not ugñy-mutant#64), Why would I risk it by telling people stuff that clearly I am not supposed to say?
2)If I did spread some details about the movie in point #1, Wouldn't Fox use my ass as pencil holder for the rest of my life? (instead of "Shhhh! silly, don't say anything else about our most precious secret, get over here and continue working for us")

[xwolverine2]

this thread should have died years ago........

[BigMac]

It will not die!

[cookiva]

2)If I did spread some details about the movie in point #1, Wouldn't Fox use my ass as pencil holder for the rest of my life? (instead of "Shhhh! silly, don't say anything else about our most precious secret, get over here and continue working for us")

How do you know that they arent?

[RedIsNotBlue]

They did. They told SHH he was telling lies. Isn't that statement enough? Why go out of the way to make some big official thing for one tiny little liar? He wasn't worth it.



He gave us pics that anyone at that set could have taken, whether they were involved with the movie or just a visitor, and has only given us one thing that was confirmed to be true, as newwave stated.

What about the fact that some of the most respected posters are 100% that he is Ricky Hoggard? And how does he get this info that is later on confirmed?? He has gotten pics that anyone could have taken true but he has also given us pics that would most likely require a certain access. Either he is a hell of a spy or he is or was involved with the X3 production.

Can you at least agree with this statement?

He is Ricky Hoggard and was involved in the production at some point.

[Specter313]

What about the fact that some of the most respected posters are 100% that he is Ricky Hoggard? And how does he get this info that is later on confirmed?? He has gotten pics that anyone could have taken true but he has also given us pics that would most likely require a certain access. Either he is a hell of a spy or he is or was involved with the X3 production.

Can you at least agree with this statement?

He is Ricky Hoggard and was involved in the production at some point.

And did I ever say he wasn't Ricky? No. I even said he was in another post.

And no I can't agree with your statement. There are several other ways that he could have gotten that stuff. He could have known someone on the staff, or he was visiting the set. He could have easily had connections from X2 from his supposed deal from that, if that was even true. He didn't need any kind of "special access" to get any of those pics. People working on the movies bring in friends and relatives all the time. That one guy didn't need "access" to see Kelsey in Beast makeup. And pretty much all the other pics that we've been given were by people who were visiting the sets, all of which were pretty much the caliber of what Ricky gave us. He's nothing special except he is an actor as well.

And didn't it ever strike you odd that the only "confirmed" stuff and pics he gave us all revolved around stuff involved in that woods scene? That tells me that he was only visiting the set to see that stuff and that stuff alone. That's why he knew about it, not because he had anything to do with the movie.

[Kanon]

And didn't it ever strike you odd that the only "confirmed" stuff and pics he gave us all revolved around stuff involved in that woods scene? That tells me that he was only visiting the set to see that stuff and that stuff alone.
GOOD point

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I think he was just simply think he was just invited to the set or he knows someone part of Production or w/e & he saw an opportunity to take pics & thats that & just simply reported here what he saw / heard. If he was PART of Production you can bet FOX would have made him sign some NDA thing where he can't say *****.

[SudburyDude]

Hey. I know Ricky Hoggard. I live in Sudbury Ontario. He is an actor, singer, model and a great person...but he is NOT in X-men 3. Though... He was on set for the first few months of filming. I think the reason he has information is because he was there, so if he gave you guys information...chances are its 100% accurate, minus the whole Avalanche part.

There have been tv camera's all over sudbury for the past year, following Ricky. I can't say what network, I wouldn't even if I knew. But there is something going on media wise, when Ricky Hoggard is involved.

Ricky Hoggard and Hunter Parrish were on Summerland supposively, but no one saw them on ANY episodes. Yet KTLA news, which is affliated with the WB, which is where Summerland is aired had a interview with Hunter and Ricky which showcased them BASHING Jesse McCartney. I saw this, but didn't see them on the episodes they are suppose to be on. The weird thing is, they were credited on the summerland ending credits, IMDB amd TV.com and many sites mention them as guest stars.

Rumours around my city are that Ricky Hoggard has a reality show coming out, about faking it to the point where your a high level celebrity. What me and some friends figured out is that Ricky Hoggard is payed to pretend to be in X-men 3 -- and FOX is okay with this, cause drama for his show and make people believe he is in, for publicity. The family won't talk.

I was friends with him before high-school, he got home-schooled and got heavily into acting and singing. But I know he is really good friends with Kea Wong from Snowday. She was at one of his big parties a few years ago.

I don't know anything official, I just know what I hear. I googled him and found this board. Hope my information helps. I'm also a x-men fan, but to anyone who thinks Ricky is Avalanche...hes not, but I wouldn't discount anything hes said, he was on set, for a LONG time for reasons regarding what I believe to be, a reality show.

[Halcohol]

The plot thickens... interesting. Just something Fox would do, too.

But why the hell would Ricky get his own show?

[JP]

Hey. I know Ricky Hoggard. I live in Sudbury Ontario. He is an actor, singer, model and a great person...but he is NOT in X-men 3. Though... He was on set for the first few months of filming. I think the reason he has information is because he was there, so if he gave you guys information...chances are its 100% accurate, minus the whole Avalanche part.

There have been tv camera's all over sudbury for the past year, following Ricky. I can't say what network, I wouldn't even if I knew. But there is something going on media wise, when Ricky Hoggard is involved.

Ricky Hoggard and Hunter Parrish were on Summerland supposively, but no one saw them on ANY episodes. Yet KTLA news, which is affliated with the WB, which is where Summerland is aired had a interview with Hunter and Ricky which showcased them BASHING Jesse McCartney. I saw this, but didn't see them on the episodes they are suppose to be on. The weird thing is, they were credited on the summerland ending credits, IMDB amd TV.com and many sites mention them as guest stars.

Rumours around my city are that Ricky Hoggard has a reality show coming out, about faking it to the point where your a high level celebrity. What me and some friends figured out is that Ricky Hoggard is payed to pretend to be in X-men 3 -- and FOX is okay with this, cause drama for his show and make people believe he is in, for publicity. The family won't talk.

I was friends with him before high-school, he got home-schooled and got heavily into acting and singing. But I know he is really good friends with Kea Wong from Snowday. She was at one of his big parties a few years ago.

I don't know anything official, I just know what I hear. I googled him and found this board. Hope my information helps. I'm also a x-men fan, but to anyone who thinks Ricky is Avalanche...hes not, but I wouldn't discount anything hes said, he was on set, for a LONG time for reasons regarding what I believe to be, a reality show.

:eek: ...

[SudburyDude]

Oh I don't think FOX is giving Ricky his own show, whatever network Ricky is involved with must of been with in talks with Fox, about having him on set for their movie to benefit Ricky's reality show. Thats my theory. This has been going on since last winter. However I do think FOX is benefiting from all this, cause its rising the hype.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Hmm a Reality Show showing one dude lying his butt off at SSH & the show showing off all the Ticked Off Users

Thats a new one

[Electrix]

Oh....

We'll have to keep our eyes out...

[Halcohol]

Oh I don't think FOX is giving Ricky his own show, whatever network Ricky is involved with must of been with in talks with Fox, about having him on set for their movie to benefit Ricky's reality show. Thats my theory. This has been going on since last winter. However I do think FOX is benefiting from all this, cause its rising the hype.

Damn straight it is... so what made you come onto SHH and tell us this?

Welcome to it, btw.

[SudburyDude]

Hmm a Reality Show showing one dude lying his butt off at SSH & the show showing off all the Ticked Off Users

Thats a new one

I don't think him posting here is apart of his show, I think that was just him being his VERY center of attention self. He is a good guy, but a big attention whore, and has been his whole life.

[the a1ant]

LOL...I hope he does get his own show. Maybe we'll all get some publicity? :D

[SudburyDude]

Damn straight it is... so what made you come onto SHH and tell us this?

Welcome to it, btw.

I was just googling Ricky and found a post about him here, read it up and laughed and decided to let it be known what I know, or think I know.

[cookiva]

Maybe he will actually talk about specific people here!

[Electrix]

I wonder if he shows the PM's I sent him....I'll see my screename on TV!

[Electrix]

Well my old one!

[the a1ant]

I don't think him posting here is apart of his show, I think that was just him being his VERY center of attention self. He is a good guy, but a big attention whore, and has been his whole life.

Ooooh.....

[SudburyDude]

When Ricky Hoggard was on the set of summerland, the entire episode was entirely spoiled weeks before it aired. He's really good to the fans of these shows, because he gives out info to benefit him, and to gain a fanbase. He has a big one for someone whos done voice acting only, and work as a extra.

Hes just a actor with good connections, whos going to make it by doing a whack out reality show. Which good on him, but i'm surprised there was such a big Ricky talk here or anywhere. I wouldn't even thunk it.

[cookiva]

When Ricky Hoggard was on the set of summerland, the entire episode was entirely spoiled weeks before it aired. He's really good to the fans of these shows, because he gives out info to benefit him, and to gain a fanbase. He has a big one for someone whos done voice acting only, and work as a extra.

Hes just a actor with good connections, whos going to make it by doing a whack out reality show. Which good on him, but i'm surprised there was such a big Ricky talk here or anywhere. I wouldn't even thunk it.


Hmmm, suddenly Im glad hes not in X3. I dont want the entire movie spoiled for me!:up:

[Halcohol]

When Ricky Hoggard was on the set of summerland, the entire episode was entirely spoiled weeks before it aired. He's really good to the fans of these shows, because he gives out info to benefit him, and to gain a fanbase. He has a big one for someone whos done voice acting only, and work as a extra.

Hes just a actor with good connections, whos going to make it by doing a whack out reality show. Which good on him, but i'm surprised there was such a big Ricky talk here or anywhere. I wouldn't even thunk it.

LOL too bad Endeavor's not here, he'd be pretty pleased.

[SudburyDude]

I don't know how much he spoiled, I like the movies but never been to any of these sites before, but if he spoiled anything, I wouldn't say its not true because hes not in it. He was on set for a long time, two months, and his sister had mentioned he was going back and forth. His information is probably valid, discluding him being Avalanche. Take Avalanche totally out of the picture.

[the a1ant]

*Wonders if this is really Ricky talking, under different screen name*

lol

[SudburyDude]

*Wonders if this is really Ricky talking, under different screen name*

lol

I'm not Ricky if you mean me. But i've got to go. Just letting you guys know.

[cookiva]

*Wonders if this is really Ricky talking, under different screen name*

lol

Thank god someone else was thinking this!!!! I didnt think that a random person would come here for no reason, then see this thread and decide to help RickyH.

[EnSabahNur]

unless its his mom or something

[the a1ant]

oh. my. dear. lord.

[the a1ant]

um...lets change subject.

*whistles*

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Yeah that had to be MORE THEN LIKELY Ricky

[Downhere]

And the drama continues I see.