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i'm Spider-Man
09-26-2005, 01:09 PM
http://www.suite101.com/files/articles/111000%5C111830/fonz.jpg

EEEYYYYYY.....

I thought i'd celebrate this, my 2,500th Post on the SHH! boards, by telling you all what i've loved about Marvel recently. not gonna get too deep, cause i only have about five minutes before i have to leave the house and go to the Pub. :)

Bendis/Maleev on DD: I only read the 'Decalogue' arc, i read the solicits for the first couple of issues and it intrigued me - i loved the whole idea of going into the victims of these crimes, rather than keeping the focus on Matt/DD the whole time. Nt quite sure who the 'new villain' is that was promised to us lol.

THE ULTIMATES 2: love it. LOVE it. Everything's a giggle, everything's incredibly well thought out, and compelling. Who's the traitor? NOBODY KNOWS! NOBODY!

Ultimate Secret: Might be taking a freakin' decade to get published, but the two issues i've read so far have left me wanting so much more.. :D

New Avengers: Now, despite not being a long-time Avengers reader myself, i can see the problem a lot of people would have with the new team. It really does seem like a popularity contest, meshed with 'lost or unknown heroes' - Spidey, Wolverine et al mixed with Luke Cage and Sentry. But i like it. I wish McNiven could stay on the title FOREVER - Finch's Pinches are starting to annoy me (the look he gives each human face). But, back he comes for Ronin's introduction...

YOUNG AVENGERS: Best new thing to come out of Marvel in the last year or so, if you ask me. Great new characters, an interesting background soon to follow, and a decent mix of personalities and possible new villains. Would love to see a YA/Runaways crossover.

HOUSE OF M: (this includes all the spin-offs), I'm enjoying the story. THat's not to say i'm not dreading what's going to be changed about the MU afterwards, but i really am enjoying the story. the way it's panning out. I like the fact that Scott is taking charge, whereas before it seemed like it was oging to be Logan's show. Scott being a leader to the group makes more sense. I liked the emotional moments with Cage and Peter Parker - especially the Spider-Man splash page in #5. Enjoyed teh FF: HOM mini, and am still enjoying the SPIDEY: HOM mini.


(on a non-Marvel note, i'm also enjoying Supergirl and and a bit disappointed by All-Star Batman and Robin, though i am still intrigued to see if Bruce ends up learning from Dick.)

that's all!

I'd be interested to learn what others are enjoying too.

Kevin
09-26-2005, 01:10 PM
Congrats Btw

JewishHobbit
09-26-2005, 01:56 PM
Congrats on the big 2500 man. And I'm a Marvel Zombie so I'll give ya a go!

Runaways - I LOVED this title! I've been a fan from day one and these characters just keep getting better and better and more and more indepth. I absolutely LOVED Excelsior and can't wait for thier return to the book (or in their own!!!). I'm really excited to see what happens when the Runaways hit the big time over in NY when they run into Spidey, Cloak and Dagger, and others (I'm thinking Young Avengers to come soon as well). Right now I have to say that this is probably my favorate book out! (though I didn't like the art on the two most recent issues focused on Karolina).

New Avengers and Young Avengers - I put these together because I love the feeling both give. I've not been a long time Avengers fan as I just could never get into the old stuff. But Since these two started I like how it's starting to feel like a core Marvel group instead of just another team from Marvel. I personally LOVE that Spidey and Sentry are on the team and though I could pick a few better ones than Wolvie I like him there too. I've loved every issue of New so far! Young Avengers really gets that "the next generation" feel going where I could easily see one of these guys growing into the next big avenger. I like the tutelage thing these guys could be going through and I can't wait to see what awaits them.

House Of M - As a whole I'm loving it! I thought that the mini by itself was just alright until I got ahold of the other branch offs. Since reading all of those and getting a full scope of the HoM world I've grown to appreciate the mini all the more. I love how the world has changed and all the changes are interesting. I also love some of the exchanges, especially of Peter's reaction when learning what happened. I can't wait for the final two issues! I love every off shoot also save Mutopia X (which really just doesn't seem to be relevant thus far). My fav's thus far are the mini, FF, and Hulk. Academy X is great as well! And I also can't wait to see the repercussions. Right now I feel that Marvel is good but it's lacking,.. I hope the changes that are coming will make the world of Marvel a place that lacks nothing!

New X-Men: Academy X and New X-Men: Hellions (mini) - Now this book will be changing soon with a new creative team,.. but thus far this has been my favorate X-title in a long while! It has perfect attention to continuity and details of the marvel universe. They managed to take a large amount of relatively new characters and make me care for each and every one of them,... even Tag! I fell for this book back when it was just New Mutants, but felt that it was lacking. When it became Academy X it picked up that aspect it was missing and now it's wonderful! Hope the new team keeps up the greatness!

iloveclones
09-26-2005, 02:08 PM
Happy 2500th.

What I currently like, the ones I read first and really look forward to:

MTU (of course)
Supreme Power
New Avengers
Young Avengers
Amazing Spider-Man
Captain America
Nighthawk mini
Runaways
Wolverine (recent run)
Fantastic Four(Waids run was great, and JMS' looks like it has a lot of promise)

And any and all Dan Slott. He's yet to do something that I haven't liked. So soon, I'll be adding She-Hulk and Thing to that list, I'm sure.

hippie_hunter
09-26-2005, 02:22 PM
New Avengers has been getting better, but Young Avengers kicks ass!

spidey-dude
09-26-2005, 02:28 PM
i have been reading young avengers, academyX and ult spidey, lovin them all atm OH YEAH AND I LOVE THE 1st 4 ISSUES OF NYX

gildea
09-26-2005, 02:56 PM
6 positive posts in a row dear me?

This day I am looking forward to neil gaiman and the enternals!

Nick Eastwood
09-26-2005, 03:25 PM
Captain America. My god, I am turning into such a Brubaker-lite. I can't wait until Winter Soldier picks up again. Total gold.

Amazing Spider-Man. Started lacking after Book of Ezekiel, but now it's finally picked up and JMS has turned it gold again.

New Avengers. Decent, entertaining read.

The Ultimates. Best ultimate book by far. It's engaging, reads like a movie and you can't help by dig the characters and all their eccentricities.

Young Avengers. I like it, good entertaining read. Heinberg is great at writing teenagers and it shows. This book will become a classic somewhere down the line.

Dwarf lord
09-26-2005, 04:34 PM
6 positive posts in a row dear me?

This day I am looking forward to neil gaiman and the enternals!

MARVEL SUCKS!!!!!!!!! :p ;)

Well I'm really enjoying New Avengers and I'm starting to get into Captain America. And I like everything by Dan Slott.

Muze
09-26-2005, 04:47 PM
http://www.suite101.com/files/articles/111000%5C111830/fonz.jpg

EEEYYYYYY.....

I thought i'd celebrate this, my 2,500th Post on the SHH! boards, by telling you all what i've loved about Marvel recently. not gonna get too deep, cause i only have about five minutes before i have to leave the house and go to the Pub. :)

Bendis/Maleev on DD: I only read the 'Decalogue' arc, i read the solicits for the first couple of issues and it intrigued me - i loved the whole idea of going into the victims of these crimes, rather than keeping the focus on Matt/DD the whole time. Nt quite sure who the 'new villain' is that was promised to us lol.

THE ULTIMATES 2: love it. LOVE it. Everything's a giggle, everything's incredibly well thought out, and compelling. Who's the traitor? NOBODY KNOWS! NOBODY!

Ultimate Secret: Might be taking a freakin' decade to get published, but the two issues i've read so far have left me wanting so much more.. :D

New Avengers: Now, despite not being a long-time Avengers reader myself, i can see the problem a lot of people would have with the new team. It really does seem like a popularity contest, meshed with 'lost or unknown heroes' - Spidey, Wolverine et al mixed with Luke Cage and Sentry. But i like it. I wish McNiven could stay on the title FOREVER - Finch's Pinches are starting to annoy me (the look he gives each human face). But, back he comes for Ronin's introduction...

YOUNG AVENGERS: Best new thing to come out of Marvel in the last year or so, if you ask me. Great new characters, an interesting background soon to follow, and a decent mix of personalities and possible new villains. Would love to see a YA/Runaways crossover.

HOUSE OF M: (this includes all the spin-offs), I'm enjoying the story. THat's not to say i'm not dreading what's going to be changed about the MU afterwards, but i really am enjoying the story. the way it's panning out. I like the fact that Scott is taking charge, whereas before it seemed like it was oging to be Logan's show. Scott being a leader to the group makes more sense. I liked the emotional moments with Cage and Peter Parker - especially the Spider-Man splash page in #5. Enjoyed teh FF: HOM mini, and am still enjoying the SPIDEY: HOM mini.


(on a non-Marvel note, i'm also enjoying Supergirl and and a bit disappointed by All-Star Batman and Robin, though i am still intrigued to see if Bruce ends up learning from Dick.)

that's all!

I'd be interested to learn what others are enjoying too.

so, really, how much are they paying you?

Not Jake
09-26-2005, 04:49 PM
you had me at fonzllo:(

Marcdachamp
09-26-2005, 04:57 PM
New Avengers- I know a lot of older Avengers fans hate it, but I've been reading Avengers since the beginning of Busiek's run, and I haven't enjoyed it this much since then.

Runaways- So much fun. Just... fun. One of the greatest hidden gems on stands.

Cable and Deadpool- the even more hidden but not quite as beautiful but still elegant in its own way gem. :up:

Joe Mad back at Marvel.

Young Avengers- Who'da thunk?

The Ultimate Spiderman videogame- Buy it. NOW!

Kitty and Spiderman in USM- They're so cute.

Millar's run on Wolverine- MUCH better than MKSM, this is gonna be one for the books, ESPECIALLY last issue.

House of M- Good stuff.

citizenpain
09-26-2005, 04:59 PM
congrats on the post. here's some of the stuff i've been reading/enjoying as of late, which is pretty similar to your list:

+ house of m (i still haven't grabbed #6, but what i've read so far is really interesting. i've always been a fan of alternate universe type stories and this one is insanely awesome... i can't believe nobody thought of a world where mutants are the majority and humans the minority before. i gotta save up some cash and get the tie-ins too... any suggestions as to which are the best so far?)

+ the punisher (the last arc was awesome, and the new one is shaping up to be even better, especially with covers like this...)

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/652/652513/marvel-in-december-20050921005115361.jpg

+ new avengers (i for one am completely satisfied with the new roster since i believe that change is GOOD. i'm definitely looking forward to seeing more of the sentry and i always thought spider-woman was cool, especially with her pheromones)

+ wolverine (i only recently picked up millar's run starting with the agent of shield story and i'm dying to dig back into the past few issues cuz i've apparently missed a lot. that stand alone ish with the nazis looks pretty badass too)

+ young avengers (again due to a lack of funds, i have only the first few issues but i'm definitely going to get back on track with this book)

+ daredevil vs. punisher: means to an end (only part i don't like is the friggin' punisher gettin' whooped on waaay too much)

other notables:
+ the ultimates
+ daredevil
+ ultimate spider-man
+ cable/deadpool

taskmaster
09-26-2005, 05:03 PM
Cable and Deadpool- If this book gets cancelled before it's time I may not but another comic again. It's that good, buy it.

New Avengers- I've never been a fan of the Avengers but this is what got me into it. Now I pick all the stuff I can. It may not be the best but it's led to me finding better Avengers stories and for that I'm greatful

Ultimates- The only ultimate title worth picking up anymore. I've been loving it so far can't wait to see what loeb and mad do with it.

Daredevil- I picked up the Hardcovers last week and I want more. It's really good makes me sad that bendis and maleev are leaving right after I started reading it.

gildea
09-26-2005, 05:16 PM
It occurs i didn't answer this properly.

Ok the core ultimate line is still among the best in superhero comics out there.

Young avengers has sold me on something i never thought i was buying.

New avengers is really good too.

Daredevil bendis and maleev going out on a high with brubaker coming in!

The punisher is still great in ennis's hands.

JewishHobbit
09-26-2005, 05:18 PM
+ house of m (i still haven't grabbed #6, but what i've read so far is really interesting. i've always been a fan of alternate universe type stories and this one is insanely awesome... i can't believe nobody thought of a world where mutants are the majority and humans the minority before. i gotta save up some cash and get the tie-ins too... any suggestions as to which are the best so far?)


Fantastic Four and Spiderman ahve both been wonderful. I personally liked Hulk and am liking New Mutants: Academy X. But if I had to suggest one I'd say Fantastic Four.

JewishHobbit
09-26-2005, 05:22 PM
6 positive posts in a row dear me?

This day I am looking forward to neil gaiman and the enternals!

I love that this thread has stayed posative and that we have had quite a few people saying that they enjoy such things as House of M and New Avengers,... where as in other threads it's constant criticizing with people saying how it all sucks and that no one likes them. I guess it comes down to "Those who yell loudest are the most obvious, though they're retarded."

I think it was Ghandi who said that.

Marcdachamp
09-26-2005, 05:26 PM
I love that this thread has stayed posative and that we have had quite a few people saying that they enjoy such things as House of M and New Avengers,... where as in other threads it's constant criticizing with people saying how it all sucks and that no one likes them. I guess it comes down to "Those who yell loudest are the most obvious, though they're retarded."

I think it was Ghandi who said that.
I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who first said: "ShUt teh *** up NooB!" :p

Edit: wow, this thing even censors misspellings??

Muze
09-26-2005, 05:31 PM
I love that this thread has stayed posative and that we have had quite a few people saying that they enjoy such things as House of M and New Avengers,... where as in other threads it's constant criticizing with people saying how it all sucks and that no one likes them. I guess it comes down to "Those who yell loudest are the most obvious, though they're retarded."

I think it was Ghandi who said that.

what's funny is that you believe your own pro-marvel propoganda bs.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200490 (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200490)

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200314 (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200314)

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190638 (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190638)

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199847 (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199847)

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200509 (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200509)


this thread is Elijya's recommendations in a new "Yay Marvel" wrapper; not to mention a collection of the threads i linked to.

i'm Spider-Man
09-26-2005, 05:46 PM
so, really, how much are they paying you?

:rolleyes: not enough :(

i'm Spider-Man
09-26-2005, 05:48 PM
this thread is Elijya's recommendations in a new "Yay Marvel" wrapper; not to mention a collection of the threads i linked to.
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well mate, i just thought i'd start a thread that wasn't all "this is what they're doing wrong, why haven't they done that?, I don't like what JMS is doing, I think PAD should come back to Hulk and stay there forever, Bendis is a moron" the entire time.

bring a ray of sunshine to pierce the eternal gloomy pessimism.

TheCorpulent1
09-26-2005, 05:54 PM
Young Avengers: The most pleasant foot sandwich I've ever had. I was dead-set against it initially, but the previews won me over enough to give the first issue a try, and from there I was absolutely, 100%, inextricably hooked. Add to that the Vision's awesome return and continued presence and, while a lot of people just love to point out that it's a Teen Titans rip-off, it's totally kicking the Titans' collective ass right now. Best title Marvel currently publishes. :up:

Amazing Spider-Man: "Sins Past" is a dead horse and JMS is proving why, outside of the occasional hiccup, he's perfect for Spider-Man. The current arc is a better New Avengers arc than anything that's been in New Avengers yet.

Marvel Team-Up: Kirkman is injecting some of the overarching shared universe concept that Marvel's been lacking for years back into the universe, and I, for one, am enjoying it immensely. While I miss Kolins, I actually am enjoying Paco Medina's art even more. I didn't really like him on Thor much, but now that he has a more varied bunch of heroes to work with, he's really growing on me.

Thunderbolts: I refuse to call it "New" Thunderbolts, but other than that stupid title change that Marvel has officially made a cliché, this team of ex-Avengers villains feels more like the Avengers than the Avengers now. The Purple Man arc was interesting until I started getting bored of the Purple Man and his writing analogies, but now that we've gotten hints of an even greater power than the Purple Man behind everything, I'm more intrigued than ever. Not to mention that nagging question of who the hell the new Swordsman is. Lots of mysteries and lots of fun superhero action make this title great.

Captain America: While the idea of Bucky being back still doesn't sit well with me, I can deal with it given the absolutely phenomenal story Brubaker is weaving around it. One of the few times I've been happy that a writer has jumped ship from DC to Marvel. And Epting's current work is every bit a pleasure to look at as his Avengers run. This is the best Cap's been since the Waid/Garney relaunch after Heroes Reborn.

Defenders: I was a little apprehensive that Giffen and DeMatteis would make the Defenders look too silly, but the first issue's sheer hilarity made me not care anymore. The Silver Surfer seeks kindred spirits on a beach? Namor calls Dr. Strange arrogant? Great comedy. Maguire proves that he's the king of facial expressions again, too.

Thor: Blood Oath: Thor faces a bunch of ex-teammates who don't give a damn about him and an uncertain future in the present, but Oeming's Blood Oath is a perfect return to a Simonsonesque Thor of old. Minor continuity issues pop up, like the fact that Don Blake and Jane Foster are working at a hospital when Don actually had a private practice in the original comics, but those are easily fan-wanked or ignored. It's great to see the Warriors Three and Thor play off each other, and the giant's quest will undoubtedly provide some interesting scenariors for Oeming the mythology buff to explore.

Runaways: I love it for all the same reasons I loved the first volume. Plus, Excelsior rules. The art for the last two issues sucked (a lot) but Alphona's coming back for the next issue and we get to revisit the relationship between the Runaways and Cloak and Dagger, which is always fun. This is my second most anticipated Marvel title every month.

Exiles: I'm well aware that the series is basically a Sliders rip-off, but who cares? More to the point, this is what Sliders COULD have been if the creators could think up realities as interesting as some of the ones Marvel's already got built in. I'm incredibly bored with Beak and can't wait to see him get the hell off the team, but other than that I've never loved this title more, even when Winick was on. Bedard's new status quo looks like it'll provide fuel for this series to continue its run of great stories for a long time. Paul Pelletier's pencils are also an EXTREMELY pleasant sight after Miyazawa's bland, often misshapen work, too.

That's all I can really think of right now. I'm enjoying other stuff at Marvel, but these are the titles I actually look forward to and get excited about every month.

Dread
09-26-2005, 07:14 PM
What the heck, I'll bite. I've likely been pessimistic enough over the past few days that I should visit what Marvel's done right this year. Because they have done some things right.

WHAT DREAD LOVES ABOUT MARVEL RIGHT NOW:

YOUNG AVENGERS: Anyone who expected this series to be as good as it is when the solicts first came out is lying. We all lambasted this project and Heinberg & Cheung totally proved us wrong with a refreshing look at a young hero team that brings with it all the legendary stuff and interactions of the Avengers of old. It makes DISASSEMBLED almost seem worth it to allow a backdrop and purpose for the series. Rather than be straightfoward, Heinberg has left the characters mysteries and slowly uncovers their secrets, all while being entertaining. The Kang stuff got annoying but at least it's Kang, and not, say, Sauron. Plus, reviving Vision with a new look and powers and some kids to guide is a nifty way to change the status quo of a character often neglected. Can't wait for each issue every month.

RUNAWAYS: Created by Vaughan & Alphona last year, it's tied with YA right now for me. It's another satisfying read about a teen team coming of age, only with a little less spandex and no less amount of thrills. Vaughan displays an ability to create new characters while still playing well with the MU, such as using Cloak & Dagger, Wrecking Crew, Swarm, Skrulls, and Excelsior, consisting of a score of neglected 90's heroes, and Ultron, which added another Vision relation to the mix. The teens consist of many genres in a universe that at times seems stuck in "spandex or Mutant" mode. It's also one of the few "can't wait" titles out there that is consistantly on time.

ULTIMATE X-MEN: While not as good as his RUNAWAYS stuff, Vaughan's been the best writer on the title since Millar launched the first 30+ issues, and manages to take elements from the work of Millar, Bendis, and Austen on the title (Austen wrote the 2 Gambit issues) and not only run with them, but manage to add his own personal touches. If only 616 writers could adhere and flex with continuity so fluidly. While he has had his issues, I've loved his run and hate to see it end when he's hampered by Hollywood folks later this year.

MARVEL TEAM-UP: Kirkman writes a fun superhero title in a world of grimness. Some of the plots aren't perfect but this is an enjoyable pleasure every month. Am really liking Medina's art more than collins, and like that Kirkman isn't deathly afriad of mainstream superheroics, warts and all. Comics these days fear being fun rather than "edgy", and Kirkman gets it right.

GRAVITY: Yes, yes, this is INVINCIBLE Lite, yada yada. But I still like the title, with it's simple story, enjoyable main hero and great art. Out of the score of MARVEL NEXT titles, I hope to see more of this rookie in the major leagues.

ASTONISHING X-MEN: The last arc wasn't it's best, but by virtue of shoddy competition, it's the best X-book out there and the only one I buy on a regular basis. Plus, Cassaday's art can improve almost any story, even mediocre "evil robot" ones. I just wish Colossus was allowed to kick more arse in other titles. He's the one Marvel bruiser who's NEVER had a shot to shine for long.

DEFENDERS: I prefer MTU, which pokes fun at characters while still taking them seriously, but I can't help but laugh at the hyjinks in this title.

SLOTT: Whether it was SPIDER-MAN & HUMAN TORCH or GLA, the guy's been quite enjoyable with his titles lately and I'll surely be grabbing THING when it comes out.

CaptainStacy
09-26-2005, 07:17 PM
New Avengers
Amazing Spider-Man
Spider-Girl
Fantastic Four
Marvel Knights: 4
Daredevil
Marvel Team-Up
Defenders

Looking forward to;

Black Widow
Books Of Doom
Punisher vs Bullseye
The Thing
She Hulk

WOLVERINE25TH
09-26-2005, 07:47 PM
MTU
Runaways
New X-Men
Spider-Girl
Exiles
Cable & Deadpool
Punisher
Fantastic Four
Amazing Spider-Man
Ultimates 2
Ultimate Spidey
Ultimate FF
Young Avengers
Stormbreaker

Dr.Fear
09-26-2005, 08:04 PM
ill tell ya what i think of young avnergers. look at my sig!!
new avengers rocks.
supreme power awesome as hell. still wish it was monthly

i'm Spider-Man
09-27-2005, 03:50 AM
Young Avengers and Teen Titans are both teen superhero teams.

That's just about where the similarity ends.

Were the Teen Titans founded by the younger self of one of the JLA's greatest villains, who travelled back in time and assembled a team of heroes purely to stop himself from annihilating other worlds?

TheCorpulent1
09-27-2005, 10:16 AM
ill tell ya what i think of young avnergers. look at my sig!!
Jesus tap-dancin' Christ, and this thread was going so well, too. :o

Dr.Fear
09-27-2005, 10:20 AM
Young Avengers and Teen Titans are both teen superhero teams.

That's just about where the similarity ends.

Were the Teen Titans founded by the younger self of one of the JLA's greatest villains, who travelled back in time and assembled a team of heroes purely to stop himself from annihilating other worlds?

JLA??


but the team was put together by using visions program, an android such cyborg! admit. its a ripoff and you know it.

Muze
09-27-2005, 10:24 AM
JLA??


but the team was put together by using visions program, an android such cyborg! admit. its a ripoff and you know it.

kind of sad that this rip-off is superior to New Avengers in every way.

iloveclones
09-27-2005, 10:34 AM
Jesus tap-dancin' Christ, and this thread was going so well, too. :o

Seriously, what did you expect?

I can barely talk about the comics that I like (I mean, why would I buy them?) without being accused of working in Marvel's office, or how my taste is suspect, or not being discriminating, blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah.

Can I just enjoy them? Just for one freakin' minute?

BTW, I saw Jesus off-Broadway. Man, can he move!



I'm going to hell....

TheCorpulent1
09-27-2005, 10:35 AM
JLA??


but the team was put together by using visions program, an android such cyborg! admit. its a ripoff and you know it.
What does that have to do with the Teen Titans? The Titans weren't formed by Cyborg, they were formed by Robin, Aqualad, Wonder Girl, Speedy, and Kid Flash. Even the new Titans weren't really formed by Cyborg, they were formed by the remnants of Young Justice. Barring any euphemisms, sure, the concept of Young Avengers is basically a rip-off of the concept of Teen Titans, but it's not the first and it almost certainly won't be the last, and it's even better than Teen Titans has been in a while, thanks to Simone and Liefeld mucking up the works.

TheCorpulent1
09-27-2005, 10:36 AM
BTW, I saw Jesus off-Broadway. Man, can he move!



I'm going to hell....
Wait 'til you see him in the Icecapades. You wanna talk miracles? :cool:



I'll see ya down there.

iloveclones
09-27-2005, 10:49 AM
Wait 'til you see him in the Icecapades. You wanna talk miracles? :cool:



I'll see ya down there.

:D http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/iloveclones/spittake.gif

BlackKnight1
09-27-2005, 10:50 AM
Seriously, what did you expect?

I can barely talk about the comics that I like (I mean, why would I buy them?) without being accused of working in Marvel's office, or how my taste is suspect, or not being discriminating, blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah.

Can I just enjoy them? Just for one freakin' minute?

BTW, I saw Jesus off-Broadway. Man, can he move!



I'm going to hell....

There is a huge difference between talking about comics you like and claiming that because 5 or 6 people have said they liked it to that everyone must like it and anyone who dosen't is a retard. That was what Jewishhobbit did and that is what set off the negative posts. You can't insult people and then expect them to sit around and take it.

Now for what I like from Marvel
Young Avengers
Captain America
Astonishing X-Men
Ultimates

I have a few more that I like but those are my favs.

Dr.Fear
09-27-2005, 10:56 AM
What does that have to do with the Teen Titans? The Titans weren't formed by Cyborg, they were formed by Robin, Aqualad, Wonder Girl, Speedy, and Kid Flash. Even the new Titans weren't really formed by Cyborg, they were formed by the remnants of Young Justice. Barring any euphemisms, sure, the concept of Young Avengers is basically a rip-off of the concept of Teen Titans, but it's not the first and it almost certainly won't be the last, and it's even better than Teen Titans has been in a while, thanks to Simone and Liefeld mucking up the works.


all i needed. thank you.

iloveclones
09-27-2005, 11:02 AM
I love that this thread has stayed posative and that we have had quite a few people saying that they enjoy such things as House of M and New Avengers,... where as in other threads it's constant criticizing with people saying how it all sucks and that no one likes them. I guess it comes down to "Those who yell loudest are the most obvious, though they're retarded."

I think it was Ghandi who said that.

claiming that because 5 or 6 people have said they liked it to that everyone must like it and anyone who dosen't is a retard

He didn't say that at all.

euroq
09-27-2005, 11:03 AM
I only read good comics. :)

Okay, that's not entirely true. My Spidey fandom occasionally makes me read books that I don't enjoy.

Anyway, what I love about Marvel at the moment:

Amazing Spider-Man
Supreme Power
Young Avengers
Fantastic Four
Captain America

Plenty of other good books too but those are the best. :)

BlackKnight1
09-27-2005, 11:04 AM
He didn't say that at all.

Wow blind are you. I guess this was not in his post. and he said quite a few, sorry my bad for using numbers.. Unfortuantly for you it means the same thing.



[QOUTE=JewishHobbit]
where as in other threads it's constant criticizing with people saying how it all sucks and that no one likes them. I guess it comes down to "Those who yell loudest are the most obvious, though they're retarded." [/QUOTE]

TheCorpulent1
09-27-2005, 11:04 AM
all i needed. thank you.
Yeah, your logically flawed vendetta against it is now justified in whatever bizarre world you live in, I'm sure.

Dr.Fear
09-27-2005, 11:07 AM
Yeah, your logically flawed vendetta against it is now justified in whatever bizarre world you live in, I'm sure.

hush now puppy!

euroq
09-27-2005, 11:08 AM
Weren't Teen Titans DC's answer to Marvel's X-Men anyway? :)

WOLVERINE25TH
09-27-2005, 11:08 AM
Okay, Boston fans over there, Yankees fans over here....

TheCorpulent1
09-27-2005, 11:10 AM
hush now puppy!
I don't really care to argue with you anymore, but I gotta ask: How do you justify reading Supreme Power while constantly panning the Young Avengers as rip-offs of the Teen Titans?? :confused:

iloveclones
09-27-2005, 11:14 AM
I wasn't talking about the numbers. I'm talking about the intent. He's obviously poking fun at people who hang around here for no other reason than to complain. If you're not one of those people, than He's not talking about you and it shouldn't affect you either way.

Let me put it this way. I think playing video games is a waste of time. I see no value in it. But I don't go out of my way to go to gaming boards to call out people that do and tell them how lame they are. Hey, if they enjoy it, more power to them. Believe it or not,they can exist in their own little world, and have conversations about Grand Theft Auto or whatever the craze is, and I don't have to be involved whatsoever.

iloveclones
09-27-2005, 11:15 AM
Okay, Boston fans over there, Yankees fans over here....


Go Pirates......aww, who am I kidding.....

Doc Destruction
09-27-2005, 11:24 AM
I'm digging:

Defenders - Giffen FTW!
Supreme Power - if only it were on time ever. The minis are good too, so far.
THIS arc of ASM - DREADING the Other, but the Hydra arc has been great.
Wolverine - the last issue was soooo damn good.
Exiles - Never gets old.
Thunderbolts - best Marvel team book going right now.
Young Avengers - gooood plots
Runaways - fun stuff, great characters.

BlackKnight1
09-27-2005, 11:29 AM
I wasn't talking about the numbers. I'm talking about the intent. He's obviously poking fun at people who hang around here for no other reason than to complain. If you're not one of those people, than He's not talking about you and it shouldn't affect you either way.

Let me put it this way. I think playing video games is a waste of time. I see no value in it. But I don't go out of my way to go to gaming boards to call out people that do and tell them how lame they are. Hey, if they enjoy it, more power to them. Believe it or not,they can exist in their own little world, and have conversations about Grand Theft Auto or whatever the craze is, and I don't have to be involved whatsoever.


You wondered why some people posted negative posts, I was explaining that when you insult people. Like he did, you have to expect them to post back. Is this a hard concept for you to grasp. If you want to just have a thread about how much you love a comic, don't go around insulting people who don't like it in the thread. Common sense a concept that escapes many...

Also your analogy does not work because you don't go onto a video game board and then start a thread about something saying how retarded people are who don't like it.

Pretty simple to understand if you ask me.

iloveclones
09-27-2005, 11:34 AM
All I can tell you, BlackKnight1, is that when I see title headers like this one, I make up in my mind a list who's probably going to come by and ruin it. Is it coincidence that I'm usually spot on?

iloveclones
09-27-2005, 11:38 AM
Also your analogy does not work because you don't go onto a video game board and then start a thread about something saying how retarded people are who don't like it.


I don't go to gaming boards because I don't like video games. Just like I wouldn't go to a DC board if I didn't like DC, or an Astonishing X-Men thread if I didn't like Astonishing X-men, or a thread titled What I Love About Marvel At The Moment if I didn't love anything about Marvel at the moment.

BlackKnight1
09-27-2005, 11:57 AM
All I can tell you, BlackKnight1, is that when I see title headers like this one, I make up in my mind a list who's probably going to come by and ruin it. Is it coincidence that I'm usually spot on?

Many of those times that a thread is ruined I am sure you can go back and find that it was fine until a person was insulted for no reason, such as this one. Nothing was happening, there where no negative posts until all people who complain about NA were called retarded.

Perhaps, there would be fewer negative posts if others didn't decide to insult people.

Also on the flip side, I can always predict who is going to say that a marvel comic is great. And I am almost always spot on in that as well.

Muze
09-27-2005, 11:59 AM
Also on the flip side, I can always predict who is going to say that a marvel comic is great. And I am almost always spot on in that as well.


iloveclones, jewishhobbit, and any no0b with a spiderman avatar; from what i've seen.

Weren't Teen Titans DC's answer to Marvel's X-Men anyway? :)

the Xmen were Marvel's answer to Doom Patrol. but anyways, who cares?


the only titles i like, at the moment, are Supreme Power and Young Avengers.

BlackKnight1
09-27-2005, 12:04 PM
I don't go to gaming boards because I don't like video games. Just like I wouldn't go to a DC board if I didn't like DC, or an Astonishing X-Men thread if I didn't like Astonishing X-men, or a thread titled What I Love About Marvel At The Moment if I didn't love anything about Marvel at the moment.

But you see, people do like things about marvel so why should then not come here, that arguement is invalid, and then they get the if you complain about NA your a retard statement which is a negative post in and of itself. End of a story.
Call a spade a spade.

I am not saying that somepeople don't go around looking for threads to flame, but then again, if you insult people you are asking for it.

If you want to think that people that post negative posts about things then don't like are the bad guys go right ahead. But I have seen more spit and hatefulness from the so-called postive posters many times.

BlackKnight1
09-27-2005, 12:07 PM
iloveclones, jewishhobbit, and any no0b with a spiderman avatar; from what i've seen.



the Xmen were Marvel's answer to Doom Patrol. but anyways, who cares?


the only titles i like, at the moment, are Supreme Power and Young Avengers.

Marcchamp as well..

gildea
09-27-2005, 01:21 PM
double post

gildea
09-27-2005, 01:22 PM
But he didn't say anyone who didn't like NA was retarded???


Though i do agree using that word regardless of context is flamebait.

BlackKnight1
09-27-2005, 01:34 PM
I love that this thread has stayed posative and that we have had quite a few people saying that they enjoy such things as House of M and New Avengers,... where as in other threads it's constant criticizing with people saying how it all sucks and that no one likes them. I guess it comes down to "Those who yell loudest are the most obvious, though they're retarded."

I think it was Ghandi who said that.


Take a good look at he mentions HOM and NA and then goes on to call peopel who criticize them retarded.

And yes that is exactly what I was trying to explain to iloveclones was that if you post like this you are asking to be flamed. But it is like trying to explain Algebra to a 5 year old, it just does not seem to be happening.

gildea
09-27-2005, 01:42 PM
I think the central point should be that really posting phrases like that is asking for trouble.

But saying those who yell their criticisms the loudest (ie those who constantly ***** on and on which doesn't happen much anymore I should say) is retarded is completely different from saying everyone who doesn't like the book is retarded which is what you said at the start.

Regardless though your main point that it only causes trouble is (IMO) correct.

BlackKnight1
09-27-2005, 01:45 PM
I think the central point should be that really posting phrases like that is asking for trouble.

But saying those who yell their criticisms the loudest (ie those who constantly ***** on and on which doesn't happen much anymore I should say) is retarded is completely different from saying everyone who doesn't like the book is retarded which is what you said at the start.

Regardless though your main point that it only causes trouble is (IMO) correct.

Yes I think I got sidetracked onto the NA thing whe iloveclones stared into the if video games and all his weird anology stuff that had no baring on what I was saying.

But yes you are correct in what I was trying to point out, and also that many times the so-called inocent is actually the person who created the mess in the first place and/or is making it worse.

iloveclones
09-27-2005, 03:26 PM
But it is like trying to explain Algebra to a 5 year old, it just does not seem to be happening.

Yes, I see how you valiantly try to keep the conversation on an adult level. My bad.

iloveclones
09-27-2005, 03:27 PM
iloveclones, jewishhobbit, and any no0b with a spiderman avatar; from what i've seen.



What a bitter little person you are.

Anubis
09-27-2005, 03:48 PM
Wow, this thread turned to s**t rather fast.

BlackKnight1
09-27-2005, 03:49 PM
Yes, I see how you valiantly try to keep the conversation on an adult level. My bad.

And you prove to me again that talking to you is like to talking to a 5 year old.

Can't except he is wrong. 5 year old check : iloveclones check
Acts like he or his friends never can do a wrong. 5 year old check : iloveclones check

you know it was just metaphor, but it was nice of you to prove it.

BlackKnight1
09-27-2005, 03:51 PM
Wow, this thread turned to s**t rather fast.

Yep and we have the usually suspect to thank... iloveclones, and others, who then say they have nothing to do with and hate people who derail threads.

I know I helped to derail it, but I get so tired of people who insult others then when they are called for it cry foul..

iloveclones
09-27-2005, 04:36 PM
Wow, this thread turned to s**t rather fast.

Sorry.

i'm Spider-Man
09-27-2005, 04:57 PM
iloveclones, jewishhobbit, and any no0b with a spiderman avatar; from what i've seen.

trying to say something???

:rolleyes:

Glad to see so much positivity in the thread - isn't it nice when we all just... get along?

- ISM

Muze
09-27-2005, 05:01 PM
trying to say something???

:rolleyes:

Glad to see so much positivity in the thread - isn't it nice when we all just... get along?

- ISM

the truth hurts. don't be ashamed of being an overly positive person. :up:


aside: would love to see how supportive of marvel he'd be if they killed Spiderman.

WOLVERINE25TH
09-27-2005, 05:33 PM
You know what's funny? Some ass comes along an' ruins a thread, but instead of movin' it on, everyone else complains about th' ass who ruined th' thread. Why can't anyone just quote said ass, say "You're an ass" an' then move on with th' theme of th' thread, payin' no mind to any further retort?

Anubis
09-27-2005, 05:37 PM
Because everyone will retort that the guy is an @$$ for calling the other guy...an @$$... it's a vicious cycle. Like Mojo Jojo with the runs.

citizenpain
09-27-2005, 06:03 PM
vicious indeed.

i'm Spider-Man
09-27-2005, 06:45 PM
Wolvie, if you've ever run into jPlaya on teh Batman vs. the Marvel Universe thread... you'd understand. truly.

Muze, as for your little idea....

I wouldn't mind.

HA! guess you weren't expecting that?

I know what you're thinking... with a screename like "I'm Spider-Man", i must be pretty fixated on him? nonono. In fact, The only Spidey title i buy is HoM Spider-Man. Which'll be over in a month or two anyway. After that, It's going to be New Avengers and that's about it.

I'm finding all these new heroes and loving most of them - to be honest, until i heard about teh Spider-Man moie and actually started READING comic books, I hardly knew any apart from the "popular" characters - some X-Men, Spider-Man, Fantastic Four and Iron Man. Wasn't really aware of Captain America!

deemar325
09-27-2005, 11:34 PM
Congrats Homey!! Good Thread Idea.:up:


New Avengers: Great stuff!! like the mix of heroes except Wolverine.

Runaways: A breath of fresh air, Damn it's that original!

Dare Devil: As much as I hate Bendis....I gotta give it to the punk! DD is a gem.

Young Avengers: Love it! Jim Cheung rules! a bit of a ripoff but what character isn't?

Captain America: Amazing!! Brubaker/Epting I can't express the love I have for this book.

Marvel Team-up: Kirk!!!! Man!!! the true essence of Marvel (not Bendis)

She-Hulk: Dan Slott...If only Marvel would wake up and see the real Future in Slott and Kirkman these guys are the true Believers Excelsior!

Punisher: Ennis/Frank match made in heaven! Bradstreet screw Alex Ross.

Ultimates: The best thing to happen to the Avengers! Sam Jackson as Fury?freaking genius!!

Truth(Red,white&Black): Just look at the size of Joey Q's cojones.

Make mine Marvel B___ches!!

:ghost:

Marcdachamp
09-28-2005, 01:37 AM
Marcchamp as well..
That's DA Champ, mother ****er, don't forget it.

I love how you drag me into a **** storm for no apparent reason. I've answered this before. I don't buy very much that I dislike, and when I DO, it's usually dropped swiftly. There's plenty at Marvel I don't like:

The return of so many X-Books
Milligan's X-Men
Continuity errors
Sins Past (for the most part)
Mike Deodato compared to JR

The thing is, I come on these boards to talk about what I like, not ***** incessantly, like some OTHER people.

Anubis
09-28-2005, 09:59 AM
That's DA Champ, mother ****er, don't forget it.




Champ of what? Getting your s**t pushed in mother ****er? heh, just kidding.

Muze
09-28-2005, 11:03 AM
Wolvie, if you've ever run into jPlaya on teh Batman vs. the Marvel Universe thread... you'd understand. truly.

Muze, as for your little idea....

I wouldn't mind.

HA! guess you weren't expecting that?

yeah. before i had a sliver of respect for you because i thought you were a diehard fan of the character. thanks for revealing yourself as a poseur.

I know what you're thinking... with a screename like "I'm Spider-Man", i must be pretty fixated on him? nonono. In fact, The only Spidey title i buy is HoM Spider-Man. Which'll be over in a month or two anyway. After that, It's going to be New Avengers and that's about it.

what i'm thinking is that i'm actually a real fan of Ant-Man and i can't read about him because of New Avengers.

I'm finding all these new heroes and loving most of them - to be honest, until i heard about teh Spider-Man moie and actually started READING comic books, I hardly knew any apart from the "popular" characters - some X-Men, Spider-Man, Fantastic Four and Iron Man. Wasn't really aware of Captain America!

great. welcome to comics. i hope you find a character that you really really like.



-----------
i read
the Ultimates

i enjoy
Supreme Power
and
Young Avengers

Marcdachamp
09-28-2005, 11:44 AM
Champ of what? Getting your s**t pushed in mother ****er? heh, just kidding.
Only if it's your Dad, *****. :up:

God I feel dirty...

Anubis
09-28-2005, 12:25 PM
Hey, better to be the ****er than the ****ie.

oddly enough, I feel clean.

gildea
09-28-2005, 04:19 PM
words to live by truly.

Marcdachamp
09-28-2005, 04:34 PM
Hey, better to be the ****er than the ****ie.

oddly enough, I feel clean.
We take turns. It's only fair; it IS his money.

masteryoda
10-02-2005, 01:53 PM
come on people now, smile on your brother...

Muze
10-02-2005, 03:17 PM
my brother's an *********.

masteryoda
10-02-2005, 03:24 PM
Takes after his brother does he? :p
:D

Sentry2005
10-02-2005, 04:15 PM
ok, back on topic.... well from me any way :D lol

i'm enjoying young avengers, the ultimates, new avengers, house of m and astonishing x-men.

new avengers may not be as good as busiek and perez's run, but its getting better every issue. not enough for me to concede taht bendis can write teams (he can't!) though.

house of m's central premise isn't "oo, we're in an alternate timeline" or "we're in a alternate world" its that the real world has been changed. and i'm enjoying it. the last two issues look set to be good, with the ontroduction to the battle that we got at the end of the last issue.

young avengers is just... wow. i LOVE the teen titans over in dc. but this is better. young kids who want to be superheros, but the adults actually fight it. an explanation why marvel doesn't have sidekicks in issue one!! i love this comic.

astonishing x-men: whedon..... he wrote buffy (one of my all time favourate tv shows), he wrote angel (another one), he wrote firefly (and another!) and also Serenity (one of the best pictures i've seen in an age). And whats more, he can write the x-men. he's made them interesting to me again, which is something i never thought would happen after operation: zero tolerence.

the ultimates is a great magazine too. the characterisations are wonderful, the battles immense, and i love the cinematic feel to the whole project, add to that my favourate artist joining as of ultimates 3, and i'm looking forward to the future for the ultimates.

Langoth
10-02-2005, 04:35 PM
MAX Punisher is probably my second favorite book write now, I love how its drawn, I love the storyline and dialog, I love it I love it I love it.

Cable and Deadpool: Excellent book, it IS my favorite, the humor, the storyline, it all works for me.

Ultimate X-men: Normally, I detest this book and rarely buy or read it, but Magnetic North is working for me, and working well.

However, on another note-

I am not going to just sit here and piss about how lalalala the Marvel universe is, I have significant problems with a large number of their other titles, including, basically every X-title I can think of.

But thats just me, and as this thread is "Possitive" I will not go into further detail. So :P

i'm Spider-Man
10-04-2005, 07:09 PM
Slight update - glad to see the thread moving along nicely!

I picked up six issues this week just gone;

New Avengers
Young Avengers
Sentry #1
Spider-Man House of M
Ultimate Iron Man
Ultimate Secret

LOVING both the Avengers titles - although a little annoyed to see Bendis' random placement of scenes and CONSTANT slow-boiling storylines.

Sentry #1 - Hmm. I liked the opening issue, but.. wasn't exactly GRIPPED by it. The artwork goes well with the book and I'm glad to see it was a SENTRY book and not a New Avengers, GUEST-STARRING THE SENTRY! book.

S-M:HOM - Liking the story although now, it's really starting to get confusing. Waid's doing a damn good job of keeping me coming back for more though!

UIM: Nice to see how Tony started out - GETTING HIS LEGS BURNT OFF IN A FURNACE!

ULTIMATE SECRET: Nice to see the interplay between Reed and Tony Stark, but I'm sad McNiven isn't drawing the whole series.

i'm Spider-Man
10-28-2005, 06:30 AM
I picked up Sentry #2, and it's fast beocming onw of my favourite titles. Lindy preferring Sentry over Bob? Not surprising, I guess, but nice to hear a character being so frank about it. Will be interesting to see what happens in the Negative Zone too...

I'm also enjoying the way Young Avengers is being handled, but my copy was a misassembled one and it'd missing some pages, while some are doubled. So i'll have to pop back into the shop next week i suppose!

i'm Spider-Man
10-31-2005, 05:18 AM
also, I suppose I do like the whole Ronin mystery. Even after all the discussions and arguments, people are still unable to conclusively name the identity of Ronin (though I do think it's Stone)

kinda frustrating that we keep getting misled by BMB and Marvel. "It's not Daredevil" etc. etc.

iloveclones
10-31-2005, 06:16 AM
also, I suppose I do like the whole Ronin mystery. Even after all the discussions and arguments, people are still unable to conclusively name the identity of Ronin (though I do think it's Stone)

kinda frustrating that we keep getting misled by BMB and Marvel. "It's not Daredevil" etc. etc.

???

The whole point of a mystery is to mislead you.

euroq
10-31-2005, 06:50 AM
???

The whole point of a mystery is to mislead you.

Yeah but I think the mystery should come from within the story, not from the outside.

Dark Hulkness
10-31-2005, 02:19 PM
Everything cept for astonishing coming out only once every blue moon

i'm Spider-Man
10-31-2005, 02:52 PM
Everything cept for astonishing coming out only once every blue moon

you like that?

i'm Spider-Man
10-31-2005, 04:56 PM
'cause this thread is about the things you like, love, or generally feel positive about, in terms of Marvel comics.

Xofenroht
10-31-2005, 05:43 PM
I like that Neil Gaiman and Stephen King are writing titles for next year.

i'm Spider-Man
10-31-2005, 05:53 PM
yeah it should provide Marvel with a few very different titles to read... I've never read a 'dark tower' story before but look forward to seeing what King does.


I kinda assumed he'd be takingover an existing Marvel character, though. Someone dark, like, uhh... Umm.. y'know that guy, err..... i dunno.

i'm Spider-Man
09-18-2006, 11:33 AM
another shameless, nay, JOYFUL bumo. What are we loving!?

for me - looking forward to getting Civil War 4 and AXM 17 in the post on Friday morning :D