Arrival- Discussion Thread (spoilers)

[triplet]

Okay, no one has started an episode discussion thread yet so I thought I'd go ahead and do it.

I found a very positive review of the season preem and thought I'd start it with that:

'Smallville' returns to the Kansas we all know (URL: http://www.kitsapsun.com/bsun/entertainment/article/0,2403,BSUN_19066_4112901,00.html)
By DAVE MASON
September 26, 2005

Faster than a speeding bullet, "Smallville" has made Superman soar again.


Not that Clark Kent gets to fly in Thursday's fifth season premiere, airing at 8 p.m. EDT on The WB. (That's a new day and time slot.) But viewers won't need telescopic vision to see the series has returned to its original flight plan. The focus is back on Clark (Tom Welling), his family and friends.

Last season veered off course with a search for Kryptonian power stones, people getting possessed by other spirits or personalities and a new boyfriend that neither Lana Lang (Kristin Kreuk) nor viewers needed. Clark even had a possible love interest with an unfamiliar character who could teleport herself. All of that made me feel that, just like Dorothy in "The Wizard of Oz," I wasn't in Kansas any more - at least not the Kansas known to Superman fans.

All of that changes with the season premiere. The episode, "The Arrival," is the best "Smallville" story since the third season. The reasons: The show has strengthened its focus on Clark Kent dealing with his Kryptonian and human sides, and the producers have wisely incorporated elements from the first two (and the best two) "Superman" movies. Most of all, the episode keeps its focus on the characters we know and care about.

The key character remains the future Superman, Clark, still played with realism by the talented Welling. Each season, Welling seems more comfortable with the character, and I have a hunch he's learning from the show's two best actors, John Schneider and Annette O'Toole, who have given new depth to Jonathan and Martha Kent, Clark's parents. (O'Toole, by the way, played Lana Lang in "Superman III.")

And it's good to see that Erica Durance, who was one of the best additions to last season, continues to play Lois Lane, this time with her name in the opening credits. Durance has given Lois the same spunk that Margot Kidder did in the "Superman" films.

Michael Rosenbaum and Kreuk continue to do well as Lex Luthor and Lana Lang. The big question is how fast Lex's power is corrupting him, a question "Smallville" needs to answer this season.

Viewers with x-ray vision will see there are plot spoilers ahead.

The season premiere picks up on last season's finale, in which another meteor shower strikes Smallville, Kan., a repeat of the shower that featured Clark Kent's arrival from Krypton. With the meteor shower comes another spaceship, this one with more Kryptonians. I won't spoil the details beyond that, except to say fans likely will like the story.

Meanwhile, Clark, who was magically transported to Alaska in the season finale, throws the Kryptonian stone into the ice, and, yes, he sees the sudden emergence of a Fortress of Solitude very similar to the one in "Superman I" and "II." And Clark hears the voice of his Kryptonian father Jor-El (and that's the voice of Terence Stamp, who played the villainous General Zod in the "Superman" movies.) Jor-El warns him of a threat to Earth.

It makes more sense to me to see Clark talking with Jor-El in that Fortress than in those Smallville caves that I never felt fit the series. I'm just not a fan of mixing "Smallville" with "Indiana Jones."

I won't give away too much, but Thursday's season premiere features some long overdue decisive turns. Clark and the other characters are taking charge of their destiny, and that will give "Smallville" more power to tell good stories.

And Thursday's story features a classic comic-book villain; Brainiac, played by "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel" star James Marsters (who played the vampire Spike). You'll be seeing more of him as "Smallville" focuses on the legend surrounding the Man of Steel. I hope the focus doesn't change.

(Contact Dave Mason of the Ventura County Star in California at www.venturacountystar.com.) Copyright 2005, kitsapsun.com. All Rights Reserved.

[avidreader]

Apparently Tom is going to be interviewed tomorrow morning by a couple of radio stations, one in Chicago the other in L.A. I assume he will be talking about Arrival and the season to come.


Good review above Triplet. Cant wait! How many hours to go?:)

[Brainiac 8]

I know, I was reading that review too. It just made the couple day wait more excrutiating. I hope they go into more detail through the season about the phantom zone, and what it was used for. All hail General Zod!

[Bad Superman]

I'm pumped for this season. It's a relief the show will be more focused on Clark rather the witch thing. :D

[Brainiac 8]

I'm pumped for this season. It's a relief the show will be more focused on Clark rather the witch thing. :D

That is deffinatly an understatement! Lana is a witch on her own without the help she had last year. (Just kidding, just kidding) Please don't hurt me.:(

[Bad Superman]

That is deffinatly an understatement! Lana is a witch on her own without the help she had last year. (Just kidding, just kidding) Please don't hurt me.:(

I agree to an extent. :D

[Morg]

Give me Thursday night and then I'll discuss about it :D

[triplet]

Apparently Tom is going to be interviewed tomorrow morning by a couple of radio stations, one in Chicago the other in L.A. I assume he will be talking about Arrival and the season to come.

cool, I hope they get posted online... :up:


Good review above Triplet. Cant wait! How many hours to go?:)

More than 48... :(

I can't wait.

It sounds like the reviewer wasn't too happy with the witch/stones plot line either (which I've discussed and thought was brilliant, but to each his own) but the fact that he thinks the preem is setting things aright will no doubt make all the Lanabel haters out there rejoice...

;) :D

:up:

[Kal-El 8]

All of that changes with the season premiere. The episode, "The Arrival," is the best "Smallville" story since the third season. The reasons: The show has strengthened its focus on Clark Kent dealing with his Kryptonian and human sides, and the producers have wisely incorporated elements from the first two (and the best two) "Superman" movies. Most of all, the episode keeps its focus on the characters we know and care about.

Awesome,

And it's good to see that Erica Durance, who was one of the best additions to last season, continues to play Lois Lane, this time with her name in the opening credits. Durance has given Lois the same spunk that Margot Kidder did in the "Superman" films.

Sweet !!!!!! ( When Lois is around, I'm on Cloud 9 *Feels like Heaven* :D )

Meanwhile, Clark, who was magically transported to Alaska in the season finale, throws the Kryptonian stone into the ice, and, yes, he sees the sudden emergence of a Fortress of Solitude very similar to the one in "Superman I" and "II." And Clark hears the voice of his Kryptonian father Jor-El (and that's the voice of Terence Stamp, who played the villainous General Zod in the "Superman" movies.) Jor-El warns him of a threat to Earth.



OMG, This sounds like it's going to be SUPER.

And Thursday's story features a classic comic-book villain; Brainiac, played by "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel" star James Marsters (who played the vampire Spike). You'll be seeing more of him as "Smallville" focuses on the legend surrounding the Man of Steel. I hope the focus doesn't change.

Whoa ! Let's hope so.

Great review ,can't wait to see it. Only 2 Days left.

"THE DAY IS COMING WHEN THE LAST SON WILL BEGIN HIS QUEST TO SAVE HUMANITY!!!"\8/ :supes:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Little early here :p

[Wolfsbane]

Great review up there. I wish I could speed up time, these days are passing too slow!

[Threshold]

I'm going to be missing a lot of this season unfortunatley, I got cast in a lead role in a play at college and have late rehersals. I'll just have to catch up on the reruns.

[Kal-El 8]

Triplet got anymore reviews ?

[triplet]

Well, I'll probably post mine to kryptonsite on Saturday... :shrug: Did you read the one on Sci-Fi.com?

[Kal-El 8]

Well, I'll probably post mine to kryptonsite on Saturday... :shrug: Did you read the one on Sci-Fi.com?

Sat :confused: I thought the premiere is on Thursday . Yeah, But the one you posted was a better review.

[avidreader]

cool, I hope they get posted online... :up:

If you go to James's site, he has the radio stations listed, I think they're going to be available on Podcast. Does that mean you can download it to itunes? Anyone know?


More than 48... :(
I can't wait.

Too slow, too slow.

It sounds like the reviewer wasn't too happy with the witch/stones plot line either (which I've discussed and thought was brilliant, but to each his own) but the fact that he thinks the preem is setting things aright will no doubt make all the Lanabel haters out there rejoice...

;) :D

:up:

Well hallelujah to that! :)

[triplet]

Sat :confused: I thought the premiere is on Thursday . Yeah, But the one you posted was a better review.

No, I meant my review. I do episode reviews for kryptonsite, I thought that's what you were talking about.

The show still preems on thursday...

It usually takes me about a day to write it and Craig doesn't always get them up before Saturday and that's when it was on Wednesdays last season.

So, I want to try to get them up sooner this year and still make it by Saturdays, if possible, but we'll see how it goes.

[KikiDee]

If you go to James's site, he has the radio stations listed, I think they're going to be available on Podcast. Does that mean you can download it to itunes? Anyone know?


http://wtmx.com/ek.php

here's the link if it works...they have info on how to download it on the site. This is for the station in Chicago by the way. I couldn't find any podcast info on the other station. If anyone finds out please let us know.

[Wolfsbane]

No, I meant my review. I do episode reviews for kryptonsite, I thought that's what you were talking about.

The show still preems on thursday...

It usually takes me about a day to write it and Craig doesn't always get them up before Saturday and that's when it was on Wednesdays last season.

So, I want to try to get them up sooner this year and still make it by Saturdays, if possible, but we'll see how it goes.
That's pretty cool. I'll have to check out your reviews.:)

[Kal-El 8]

No, I meant my review. I do episode reviews for kryptonsite, I thought that's what you were talking about.

The show still preems on thursday...

It usually takes me about a day to write it and Craig doesn't always get them up before Saturday and that's when it was on Wednesdays last season.

So, I want to try to get them up sooner this year and still make it by Saturdays, if possible, but we'll see how it goes.

Whoa :eek: your the one who does, the reviews of the episode. (Wow I find most of your review to be quite Impressive .) :supes:

[BaK]

am I going to love each and every episode of season 5 ?

duh..

:)

[avidreader]

http://wtmx.com/ek.php

here's the link if it works...they have info on how to download it on the site. This is for the station in Chicago by the way. I couldn't find any podcast info on the other station. If anyone finds out please let us know.

Thanks for posting that Kiki. I guess tomorrow we can dowload it after its been on. I live in Southern California but I can barely get reception for 106.7.

Triplet, looks like your building up a fanbase with your reviews. Way to go girl! :up:

[triplet]

That's pretty cool. I'll have to check out your reviews.:)

He posts links to them on the news page usually, but here's that one from sci.fi.com if you didn't catch it...

It's also largely positive, but they didn't like the kryptonian story line as much as the reviewer above.

http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue440/screen2.html

Craig had this linked to from his new page, here:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/news.htm

[triplet]

Triplet, looks like your building up a fanbase with your reviews. Way to go girl! :up:

:D :up:

I don't forgive them their bad episodes but I actually had someone PM me on K-site saying that my reviews helped them see the show in a different way and they found they were enjoying the show more.

That made me feel really good.

:up:

If I can spread the word about how excellent the show is to one and all, I've done my job.

[Serene]

WHAT!!! Tom is going to be on with Eric and Kathy? Cool!

I assume this is a phone in interview and not an appearance? If Tom's actually in Chicago... Oh my..

[Brainiac 8]

Triplet, is there anyone that does a review for smallville on this board that you know of.


Because being a writer like I am also, I had thought I would start a review column for this board and the people who come here and enjoy the show like us.
If someone else does that you know of let me know please.

Danke!:)

[avidreader]

:D :up:

I don't forgive them their bad episodes but I actually had someone PM me on K-site saying that my reviews helped them see the show in a different way and they found they were enjoying the show more.

That made me feel really good.

:up:

If I can spread the word about how excellent the show is to one and all, I've done my job.

That's excellent. Good Job!

Serene I think its a phone interview.

I was just looking at those new stills again, I cant wait to see how Clark gets out of that vortex.

[triplet]

Triplet, is there anyone that does a review for smallville on this board that you know of.

Yeah, The Incredible Hulk did one last year but I don't know if he'll continue... He put it up on a blog site and always posted links to his reviews on the episode discussion threads...


Because being a writer like I am also, I had thought I would start a review column for this board and the people who come here and enjoy the show like us.

If someone else does that you know of let me know please.

Danke!:)

Bitte. ;) That's about the extent of my German... :D

I'm not sure that anyone else does formal reviews, and mine tend to be a bit more verbose than Hulk's, I tend to go into the technical aspects a little (I was a film major in college)...

[Brainiac 8]

Yeah, The Incredible Hulk did one last year but I don't know if he'll continue... He put it up on a blog site and always posted links to his reviews on the episode discussion threads...




Bitte. ;) That's about the extent of my German... :D

I'm not sure that anyone else does formal reviews, and mine tend to be a bit more verbose than Hulk's, I tend to go into the technical aspects a little (I was a film major in college)...

You know who else does really technical reviews for Smallville, is Neal Baily on Supermanhomepage.com. He can be a bit harsh on the show sometimes too. But his reviews are good. I didn't know you were the Ksite reviewer, good job.:up:

[avidreader]

I saw one guy do a review of Blank, and honest to goodness he was so damn picky that I couldnt understand why he was reviewing a Smallville episode and posting it on a Smallville website.

I'm not sure if its the guy you're speaking of Brainiac but he was so damn technical that I thought it was beyond ridiculous. I just think some of these reviewers, and Triplet is definitely not one of them, need to realise that Smallville is a fantasy fictional TV show.

I've rambled a bit, but to those who havent read Triplet's reviews she does a really fair and great job of them, and points out things that you dont often see as a viewer. :up:

[Brainiac 8]

I saw one guy do a review of Blank, and honest to goodness he was so damn picky that I couldnt understand why he was reviewing a Smallville episode and posting it on a Smallville website.

I'm not sure if its the guy you're speaking of Brainiac but he was so damn technical that I thought it was beyond ridiculous. I just think some of these reviewers, and Triplet is definitely not one of them, need to realise that Smallville is a fantasy fictional TV show.

I've rambled a bit, but to those who havent read Triplet's reviews she does a really fair and great job of them, and points out things that you dont often see as a viewer. :up:

It could be, he picks apart very strange things out of the show and get very technical, in a negetive way, that sometimes he gets a little over the top. I think he may forget that it is a fantasy show, like you said.

He did point out on two or three episodes that you can see mountains in the backround, it was kinda funny. But if he likes an episode he will praise it above all things though.

[triplet]

You know who else does really technical reviews for Smallville, is Neal Baily on Supermanhomepage.com. He can be a bit harsh on the show sometimes too. But his reviews are good. I didn't know you were the Ksite reviewer, good job.:up:

Well, Neal and I have vastly different styles and I'm pretty sure he does not come from the same place I do when reviewing.

I review the show cause I love it, he seemingly barely tolerates it for existing....

Meh... to each his own. A lot of people love his reviews and find them funny, I don't particularly.

I used to also read the episode recaps on Television Withtout Pity, but I don't go out of my way to read those anymore... They tend to be really long.

There are a lot of fan reviews done on tv.com, btw. If you want to read more reviews you should check there, once the episode airs.

[HUMAN]

Last season left most of the characters in jeopardy as a meteor shower rained down on Smallville. While a meteor crashed into the Kent's house, Lana saw a spaceship in a crater and watched as it started to open, and Lex, on the hunt for the stones, took Chloe to the caves. Chloe was able to stop Lex from seeing Clark in a blaze of white light, but she got caught in the fallout when Clark was transported to someplace with a whole bunch of snow.

As season five begins, Lana sees two beings emerge from the spaceship. She tries to run, but they confront her and demand to know where Kal-El is. Meanwhile, Lois arrives at the Kent's house and helps Jonathan dig through the wreckage looking for Martha. They find her, but she's barely alive. And at the caves, Lex wakes up to find Chloe gone, but something else of interest catches his attention.

In Alaska, Clark throws the artifact into the snow, and the Fortress of Solitude emerges from the ground. He enters the structure and is told by Jor-El that "a dark force from Krypton has been awakened, and its sights are set on Earth." He tells Clark he must study with diligence, because it is the only way to save the planet.

However, just as Clark begins his training, a nearly frozen Chloe finds her way into the Fortress. Clark knows he has to save her, but Jor-El tells him he must be back before the sun sets. Clark makes the promise he will return on time. However, as Clark races to save those he loves and heads toward Smallville, he soon discovers that keeping his promise to Jor-El may be more difficult than he thought.

Revelations and a new villain

With some major revelations, an increase in the tension between Clark and Lex and a new villain on the horizon, Smallville's season-five premiere was well worth the wait. The WB promises "everything you've waited four seasons to see ... will happen." And it just might, based on where this first episode of the season is taking us.

"Arrival" works on several levels, particularly in strengthening the bonds between some of the characters and pushing farther apart the eroding relationship between Lex and Clark. The Superman mythology also gets touched on as Clark finally makes it to the Fortress of Solitude, which in design is very reminiscent of the Superman movies with Christopher Reeve.

While the plot involving the Kryptonians and their search for Kal-El has little depth, it's quite obviously a setup for something to come. Still, it's a weak device that could have been better incorporated into the story.

However, what does work nicely are any moments that involve Michael Rosenbaum and his increasingly complex portrayal of Lex. We see his descent into evil and Clark's part in that journey. It colors the hero as well as the villain. Also, Kristin Kreuk as Lana is particularly good in the episode. Her own character's progression into the mythology of Smallville last season was fascinating, and in "Arrival" the mix of terror and bravery continued to build on that depth of character.

It's going to be quite a year for Smallville fans, who at the end of "Arrival" will finally get a glimpse of James Marsters as Brainiac. The character will appear in several episodes this year, becoming a major new villain. In addition, look for Aquaman to steal Lois' heart at some point this season.

http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue440/screen2.html

Awesome!

So, Jor-El is going to teach him how to save earth, eh? Well, its not the 12 years tutelage that was in Superman: The Movie, but hey! Twelve years is a lot more to carry on the show without seeing Superman. I can see how this season will be "Superman in training" like Gough said. Can't wait!

[Serene]

I'm stunned.
I just watched the Arrival clips just posted to K-Site, and each one is wonderful and so touching. Man, I missed this show.

2 more days...

[KikiDee]

double post. oopshttp://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/ashamed/ashamed0003.gif

[KikiDee]

Thanks for posting that Kiki. I guess tomorrow we can dowload it after its been on. I live in Southern California but I can barely get reception for 106.7.

You're welcomehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif Anything for a fellow Smallvillian. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[triplet]

I'm stunned.
I just watched the Arrival clips just posted to K-Site, and each one is wonderful and so touching. Man, I missed this show.

2 more days...

Wow.. they're great.. Tom Welling is as handsome as ever and Kristin totally rocked in that last scene.

Why isn't it thursday yet?

[Serene]

Wow.. they're great.. Tom Welling is as handsome as ever and Kristin totally rocked in that last scene.

I seriously am so moved by all 4 clips. Those were good scenes to showcase. I wonder why they would release so much of the show prior to the airing? Not that I'm complaining. :)

Granted, I really like KK, but her delivery in that last scene was just perfect. And I loved how Tom handled the scene with Chloe.

I'm just going to watch those clips over and over until Thursday finally gets here.

[Zorex]

I seriously am so moved by all 4 clips. Those were good scenes to showcase. I wonder why they would release so much of the show prior to the airing? Not that I'm complaining. :)

Granted, I really like KK, but her delivery in that last scene was just perfect. And I loved how Tom handled the scene with Chloe.

I'm just going to watch those clips over and over until Thursday finally gets here.
Um...yes. I don't know what else to say. All four clips were really good. Moving. Well-acted. A little rough, they felt, in the audio at least. But still...I think I'm going to be watching these again...and again. These were damn good.

[MJZ]

Awesome clips. Welling's really "turning into the man," as corny as that may sound...

[Wolfsbane]

Well, it's Wednesday now. Which means it's still not Thursday. Damnit!

[Brainiac 8]

Well, it's Wednesday now. Which means it's still not Thursday. Damnit!

True....True.....:(

[The Incredible Hulk]

Yeah, The Incredible Hulk did one last year but I don't know if he'll continue... He put it up on a blog site and always posted links to his reviews on the episode discussion threads...

Bitte. ;) That's about the extent of my German... :D

I'm not sure that anyone else does formal reviews, and mine tend to be a bit more verbose than Hulk's, I tend to go into the technical aspects a little (I was a film major in college)...

yeah I'm still going to be doing them, but I'll be doing them (among other things) for a website this year, instead of my own personal blog. I dont know if it will all be together for tomorrow's ep though so I may just blog that one too... More details to follow :supes:

[AgentPat]

yeah I'm still going to be doing them, but I'll be doing them (among other things) for a website this year, instead of my own personal blog. I dont know if it will all be together for tomorrow's ep though so I may just blog that one too... More details to follow :supes:aHAH! Gotcha. ;)

<- putting the pieces together. :D :up:

[KikiDee]

Just got throught listening to Tom on the radio. What an adorable man!!! I have no technical abilities so I couldn't capture, but it was well worth the whole 5 min little blurb. It'll be out on podcast this evening for those who want to listen.

They mostly talked about the show, but no new info. They did ask him about imdb bio blurb where he supposedly saved a woman from a mugger. He said it was actually him wearing the purse and a woman saved him from a mugger....heehee. Lots of other cutsie stuff that us girlies will swoon over. He was very careful not to mention his wife and to correct them on the fact that Clark not himself would be happy for the Lana/Clark thing happening. I don't think they knew he was married because of a couple of comments about Kristen. He was very gracious and humble about his fans and even said that he was the one sending in all the emails to the radio station about himself.
Anyway, on cloud nine now, but thought I should share.http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/love/love0058.gif

[jas01724]

I've already put the clip up. :)

[KikiDee]

I've already put the clip up. :)

Wow, James you really are fast....http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[jas01724]

I won't be so quick with the KROQ clip. I might have that in three or four hours.

[KikiDee]

James, what is htm format? I can never download the clips from your site. I visit often because I just think you're so damn cheeky and irresistible, but alas I can't enjoy your clips or pics. :(

[avidreader]

I've already put the clip up. :)

You are the man James. Thanks so much. Loved listening to that clip. :)

He was stacking the dishwasher, I found that so funny.

[jas01724]

James, what is htm format? I can never download the clips from your site. I visit often because I just think you're so damn cheeky and irresistible, but alas I can't enjoy your clips or pics. :(HTM is the file format of the error page. Most people get that if they're behind a firewall because of hotlink protection. And you have to click the links directly, don't do "save to disk."

[KikiDee]

HTM is the file format of the error page. Most people get that if they're behind a firewall because of hotlink protection. And you have to click the links directly, don't do "save to disk."

Thank you sir that helps tremendously.:)

[musclesforsupes]

Yea I hated the witch theme from last year.

[Brainiac 8]

Yea I hated the witch theme from last year.

Me too, I hated that whole arc.

[jas01724]

Thank you sir that helps tremendously.:)Am I to assume that means it works now? ;)

[triplet]

Cool.... Tom is so charming.

thanks for posting that, James!

Have some flowers...

http://www.mckinney.to/emoticons/images/emoticons/Flowers2.gif

[Serene]

What a geek. I actually took a portable radio and headphones with me to work in case I didn't hear it during my drive in, which I didn't (Tom wasn't on until 9:15). So between patients, I was standing by the windows (the only place I could get radio reception) trying to listen.
I did catch it though... Tom was charming as usual, and very funny. Eric is usually pretty amusing, but Kathy gets on my nerves. I thought it seemed odd that when asked if he lived alone, he said it was just "me and my dog." It's not like it's a secret that he's married. Maybe there's trouble in paradise, or maybe he just misunderstood the question to be who was home at the moment? I LOL'd when he said that he had just sent all the fan emails in that morning. :)

I'll have to listen to them on Friday morning again to see if they mention actually watching SV the night before or not. The station was running quite a few WB commercials, including a SV one with some spoiler dialogue. All I can remember is Lex yelling at someone that "this was all a set-up" and Lana saying in a very playful manner, "Clark.. you talk to much."

Another thanks to James for posting it.. It's nice to be able to listen to it without being in a rush or contorting my body to get a radio signal. ;)

[NHawk19]

In the first review they make it sound like SV didnt progress as planned over the 4th season. I wonder just how much Chris Reeve impacted the season.

[tonytr1687]

It's possible Reeve had an integral part in season 4's arc, even if it would have been just one episode. Margot Kidder would have returned and therefore Bridget Crosby probably wouldn't have been killed off like she was. Who knows how the latter half of the season could have gone, but I'm still happy with what we got. Most likely we wouldn't have gotten filler episodes like Krypto and the Lucy eppy.

Btw can someone remind me how Clark got the octagonal key back from Swann?

[ObakeTora]

I heard Braniac. Can't wait.

[The Incredible Hulk]

It's possible Reeve had an integral part in season 4's arc, even if it would have been just one episode. Margot Kidder would have returned and therefore Bridget Crosby probably wouldn't have been killed off like she was. Who knows how the latter half of the season could have gone, but I'm still happy with what we got. Most likely we wouldn't have gotten filler episodes like Krypto and the Lucy eppy.

Btw can someone remind me how Clark got the octagonal key back from Swann?

Swan had it shipped back to him in "Sacred"

[KikiDee]

Am I to assume that means it works now? ;)

Yep, I just had to open it with a different browser MSN wouldn't let it through which is strange because it will let all sorts of other crap through.

Anyway, you're way high on my "Lovin' You" list right now.http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/love/love0039.gif

[KikiDee]

It's possible Reeve had an integral part in season 4's arc, even if it would have been just one episode. Margot Kidder would have returned and therefore Bridget Crosby probably wouldn't have been killed off like she was.?

I'm not totally sure, but I think she was brought on because of Chris's death. She was written off because she's nuts and wanted more money. She thought they were exploiting his death for ratings when actually they just really needed a way to complete his story line respectfully.

I do agree with you however that that is part of the reason for all the filler fluff episodes. I think they had to scramble to rewrite the remainder of the season so that it made sense.

[tonytr1687]

I'm not totally sure, but I think she was brought on because of Chris's death. She was written off because she's nuts and wanted more money. She thought they were exploiting his death for ratings when actually they just really needed a way to complete his story line respectfully.

I do agree with you however that that is part of the reason for all the filler fluff episodes. I think they had to scramble to rewrite the remainder of the season so that it made sense.

Kidder made her first appearance in Season 4's premiere, that was months before Chris' death. So she wasn't brought on just because of his death.

[triplet]

She was brought on because Chris had other committments and couldn't spare the time to fly out to Vancouver.

She did all her work at once in the middle of september last year, which was about a month before Chris Reeve died...

[triplet]

I think that vortex is for the Phantom Zone, like people were saying (and unlike what I first thought), but I was wondering why it was in Lex's study and not at Fort Ryan like the spoilers.

But I think this image probably proves that it is the entrance to the Phantom Zone.

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3765/arrival6hy.th.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arrival6hy.jpg)

This photo looks like Clark and the two kryptonians...

They musta moved the Fort Ryan scenes to the mansion for some reason... The vortex bit must happen after this...

[avidreader]

I think that vortex is for the Phantom Zone, like people were saying (and unlike what I first thought), but I was wondering why it was in Lex's study and not at Fort Ryan like the spoilers.

But I think this image probably proves that it is the entrance to the Phantom Zone.

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3765/arrival6hy.th.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arrival6hy.jpg)

This photo looks like Clark and the two kryptonians...

They musta moved the Fort Ryan scenes to the mansion for some reason... The vortex bit must happen after this...

Maybe they scrapped the idea of Lois luring them away. Makes more sense for Lana to be in the scene then since she's already staying there.

[KikiDee]

Kidder made her first appearance in Season 4's premiere, that was months before Chris' death. So she wasn't brought on just because of his death.
:O
Well, I did say I wasn't sure. Thanks Trip for clearing that up.. I really just couldn't remember when she was introduced.

[triplet]

Maybe they scrapped the idea of Lois luring them away. Makes more sense for Lana to be in the scene then since she's already staying there.

That's probably it, but they were also already over budget so they might have rewritten to include a standing set: it's cheaper than building a new one or going on location.

[triplet]

Hey, I just saw a new scene in an ad on yahoo.com's main page.. if you click on the ad you get more of the hospital scene with Chloe...

It's way cool and it's the final cut of that part, it has music and everything, unlike the other clips...

:up:

It's looking good.

Is it only 19 hours until the 5th season starts?

Heee...!

:up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

EDIT: man, my math sucks.

[MJZ]

Fantastic. :up:

[triplet]

Hey, it's like 15 hours NOW... ;)

Why won't 7pm come sooner than on other days?

:D

I can't wait...

[user123456789]

just a little over 14 hours!!!

[Wolfsbane]

I'm so hyped up today, lol. It has finally arrived! I can't wait for tonight.

[Triligors]

tonight. Just 12 more hours- yes!!!

Smallville Season 5 ARRIVES

Also, excited to see how the opening sequence was altered. Also Lois trying to bazooca kill the Kryptonians that's going to be a funny scene.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

tonight. Just 12 more hours- yes!!!

Smallville Season 5 ARRIVES

Also, excited to see how the opening sequence was altered. Also Lois trying to bazooca kill the Kryptonians that's going to be a funny scene.

They'll be lucky if that scene does not turn out corny :p

[RakuMon]

AICN finally shows some love to Smallville:
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=21428
[spoilers in the review]
Herc Quite Enjoys Tonight's
SMALLVILLE Season Premiere!!
I am – Hercules!!
I kind got fed up with “Smallville” and stopped watching early last season when Chloe Sullivan survived a cliffhanger explosion and Lionel Luthor dodged the gas chamber and Lex was suddenly friends with Clark again, and Clark was squandering his free time playing football against humans, and Lana somehow was the one American who stumbled upon some Old World Kryptonian relics. It just got to be too much for me.
The good news for me and those like me? You don’t have to have seen any part of season four to enjoy the season-five opener. It does a swell job of catching you up on who now knows Clark is Superboy, what Chloe is doing at the North Pole, where the Lex-Clark relationship stands, and any other questions that might niggle at you.
(Although – because I saw a few early episodes of season four – I am still a little curious as to how they explained the coincidence of Clark’s Smallville classmate, Lana, being the individual who happens to come upon Europe’s Kryptonian artifacts. Not curious enough to buy or watch the season-four DVD set, mind you, but curious enough to let the talkbackers catch me up if they’ve a mind to.)
From this point forward, do take that main-page spoiler warning-box seriously, because …
With this fifth-season premiere, the show suddenly and gratifyingly embraces the goofy 1978 special-effects iconography of Richard Donner’s 1978 “Superman” movie. While Clark’s birth-dad Jor-El has always been portrayed as kinda an evil presence in “Smallville” (his voice is provided by the great Terrence Stamp, who played supervillain Zod in the Donner movie), the Fortress of Solitude is reintroduced in 5.1, and looks EXACTLY like it did in the Marlon Brando movie. The Phantom Zone returns as well, and we again get to see the faces of agonized individuals pressed up against that spinning, floating geometric space-jail window. It’s all an excuse to recreate the weird ‘70s special effects with dramatic computer-generated imagery, and it’s great fun.
Clark does not tonight fly out of his new fortress as he does in the movie. Nor does he don the blue tights. But there are arrogant Kryptonian villains dressed in black wreaking small-town havoc. And we again get to hear a little bit of John Williams’ always-welcome “Superman” movie theme.
I’m inclined to believe these nods to Donner have something to do with the fact that Bryan Singer’s upcoming “Superman Returns” feature adheres so strongly to visual elements introduced in the 1978 feature. At this year’s Comic Con in San Diego, we heard Singer tell the thousands gathered that he and the producers of “Smallville” were sharing information about their respective projects. It seemed odd at the time, because the TV continuity and the movie continuity don’t – and can’t -really match up, but Singer’s comments do make more sense after you’ve seen both the “Superman Returns” footage screened at Comic Con and “Smallville” 5.1.
Lois Lane is now a regular character, with E.N. Durance’s pretty face newly wedged between those of Michael Rosenbaum and Allison Mack in the main title sequence.
We learn in the credits – the ones subsequent to the “Somebody Save Me” song - that “Buffy” vet James Marsters, who embodies the evil living computer Brainiac this season, appears in tonight’s opener, but I wish someone had arranged to reposition his credit to show’s end – or eliminate it entirely. Marsters’ is not a speaking part this week, and he only appears in the episode’s closing seconds. His nifty entrance would have had far more impact if we weren’t anticipating him all episode.
Herc’s rating for “Smallville” 5.1?
***
The Hercules T. Strong Rating System:
***** better than we deserve
**** better than most motion pictures
*** actually worth your valuable time
** as horrible as most stuff on TV
* makes you quietly pray for bulletins
8 p.m. Thursday. The WB.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Clark does not tonight fly out of his new fortress as he does in the movie. Nor does he don the blue tights. But there are arrogant Kryptonian villains dressed in black wreaking small-town havoc. And we again get to hear a little bit of John Williams’ always-welcome “Superman” movie theme.


:up:

[Serene]

Nice to see a non-fan enjoy the show so much. I can only imagine what us die-hards will think. :D

[Kal-El 8]

"THE DAY IS COMING WHEN THE LAST SON WILL BEGIN HIS QUEST TO SAVE HUMANITY!!!" :supes:

[NHawk19]

Nice to see something positive going forward. So many of the posts last season were negative.

[Kal-El 8]

Also, excited to see how the opening sequence was altered. Also Lois trying to bazooca kill the Kryptonians that's going to be a funny scene.

Me too. :up: :up:

[KalKai]

the fight won't take place in the hanger anymore, but in the Luthor Mansion, so no Lois with rocket launchers.

[mellyM]

If you go to Yahoo.com theres a longer clip of the Clark and Chloe scene..you just have to click on the Smallville ad on the front page to see it.

Its only hours now! I can't believe it!!:)

[smsvmos]

The Phantom Zone returns as well, and we again get to see the faces of agonized individuals pressed up against that spinning, floating geometric space-jail window. It’s all an excuse to recreate the weird ‘70s special effects with dramatic computer-generated imagery, and it’s great fun.


WOW so it os confirmd THE PHANTOM ZONE is also goin to be in Smallville :D

[Triligors]

Phantom zone, amazing. Also the Lois scene was meant for comedic relief because if it's not evident enough- tonight's episode will probably be the most serious SMALLVILLE ever. Remember what happened where we last left off, the after effects of such a meteor shower is going to be dramatic and some parts maybe even depressing. Thus, to have fights, comedy and phantom zone is going to be the things that liven it up.

[The Incredible Hulk]

If you go to Yahoo.com theres a longer clip of the Clark and Chloe scene..you just have to click on the Smallville ad on the front page to see it.

Its only hours now! I can't believe it!!:)


gah! damn yahoo and their insistence on using WMV format for video files :mad: They never work right and look like doo doo... I keep getting to the part where Chloe says "flotilla" and then it stops and goes black :(

[Brainiac 8]

tonight!!!!!!!WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!

[AgentPat]

Gah! Okay, spent WAY too much time searching for this new Clark/Chloe clip. Where the **** is it? Anybody got a more specific link? The one off Yahoo just goes to the WB, and every clip there is the premiere trailer - which I've seen a few hundred times already. *sigh*

[KikiDee]

Gah! Okay, spent WAY too much time searching for this new Clark/Chloe clip. Where the **** is it? Anybody got a more specific link? The one off Yahoo just goes to the WB, and every clip there is the premiere trailer - which I've seen a few hundred times already. *sigh*

Did you click on the picture? If you're on yahoo.com there's the picture of the trailer that flashes by and under it say tonight on the WB. Click on the flashing picture.

[mellyM]

Gah! Okay, spent WAY too much time searching for this new Clark/Chloe clip. Where the **** is it? Anybody got a more specific link? The one off Yahoo just goes to the WB, and every clip there is the premiere trailer - which I've seen a few hundred times already. *sigh*

I just clicked on the ad itself, the animated one of the front page (use IE if you're not) and it changed to a Media player window and opened the clip..I'm not sure why its not working, I just tried it again and it seems fine. ..well its only a few hours now anyway..:)

[jas01724]

I'm not even seeing an ad on the front page of Yahoo.com, and that's in IE with all ad blockers turned off.

[triplet]

Gah! Okay, spent WAY too much time searching for this new Clark/Chloe clip. Where the **** is it? Anybody got a more specific link? The one off Yahoo just goes to the WB, and every clip there is the premiere trailer - which I've seen a few hundred times already. *sigh*

Aw, it's gone now...

It was right on the main page on the right hand side above the links to specific news stories...

I watched it several times last night...

I'll see if I can paraphrase what they said:



Clark: How long have you known?

Chloe: I've suspected for a long time, there have been too many quick exits and miraculous recoveries... But I didn't find out for sure until I watched you catch a car like it was a beach ball.

Clark: Why didn't you say anything?

Chloe: (this was longer, but I can't remember what else she said) I wanted you to tell me on your own terms.

(then there wa a bit in here about not telling anyone and loose lips sinking ships or something... and her having sunk her own flotilla...)

Clark: You're a good friend, Chloe.

Chloe: I could have been a better one.

(I'm fuzzy on this part...)

Clark: I wanted to tell you for so long...

Chloe: I won't tell anyone Clark. Your secret will never pass my lips. (pause) Does Lana know.

Clark: No.

Chloe: Don't worry, I won't be the iceburg to your Titanic... But I still got some blank spots. Like how did we get transported to the North Pole and what exactly happened in that 40 story igloo?


Which is where that other clip picked up, the clip stopped after clark told Chloe about being born in another galaxy....

I hope this is helpful...

I can't wait. 8 hours for me and counting.

:up:

:D

[AgentPat]

Did you click on the picture? If you're on yahoo.com there's the picture of the trailer that flashes by and under it say tonight on the WB. Click on the flashing picture.I clicked on the picture, which brought me to the WB's homepage for SV. I was using Netscape though, which might explain the problemo. *shrugs*

I'm back at work now, so it'll have to wait till later. At that point though, I might as well just watch the episode instead. LOL

On a related note, it's great to see the preem get so much exposure. Putting it on Yahoo's main page is a pretty big deal.

[Bad Superman]

Aw, it's gone now...

It was right on the main page on the right hand side above the links to specific news stories...

I watched it several times last night...

I'll see if I can paraphrase what they said:



Clark: How long have you known?

Chloe: I've suspected for a long time, there have been too many quick exits and miraculous recoveries... But I didn't find out for sure until I watched you catch a car like it was a beach ball.

Clark: Why didn't you say anything?

Chloe: (this was longer, but I can't remember what else she said) I wanted you to tell me on your own terms.

Clark: You're a good friend, Chloe.

Chloe: I could have been a better one.

Clark: I wanted to tell you for so long...

Chloe: I won't tell anyone Clark. Your secret will never pass my lips. (pause) Does Lana know.

Clark: No.

Chloe: So, I still got some blank spots. Like how did we get transported to the North Pole and what exactly happened in that 40 story igloo?


Which is where that other clip picked up, the clip stopped after clark told Chloe about being born in another galaxy....

I hope this is helpful...

I can't wait. 8 hours for me and counting.

:up:

:D

7 hrs and 43 mins for me. :p

[AgentPat]

...Clark: How long have you known?

Chloe: I've suspected for a long time, there have been too many quick exits and miraculous recoveries... But I didn't find out for sure until I watched you catch a car like it was a beach ball.

Clark: Why didn't you say anything?

Chloe: (this was longer, but I can't remember what else she said) I wanted you to tell me on your own terms.

Clark: You're a good friend, Chloe.

Chloe: I could have been a better one.

Clark: I wanted to tell you for so long...

Chloe: I won't tell anyone Clark. Your secret will never pass my lips. (pause) Does Lana know.

Clark: No.

Chloe: So, I still got some blank spots. Like how did we get transported to the North Pole and what exactly happened in that 40 story igloo?

I hope this is helpful... COOL!!! THANKS!!!

That scene is gonna be interesting, though if Clark just lets the car-catching thing slide, he really IS an idiot. LOL

... but a lovable one. ;)

I can't wait. 8 hours for me and counting.DITTO!!!

[avidreader]

I just went to Yahoo, and the clip is still there, for those that wanna see it. Its pretty awesome is all I can say and they both are doing such a fantastic job of it. Who said 7 hours to go, boo hoo, I have to wait 9 hours 30 .

I'm going back to watch the clip again.

[triplet]

I'm looking at yahoo.com on two different computers and one has the ad and the other one doesn't... weird.

[avidreader]

That is weird.

[jas01724]

On the likes of Yahoo!, AOL, and other big sites, nothing's weird. It may be focused content ... different content for different systems and IP's. Of course their focusing isn't very accurate most of the time. *grumbles*

[triplet]

On the likes of Yahoo!, AOL, and other big sites, nothing's weird. It may be focused content ... different content for different systems and IP's. Of course their focusing isn't very accurate most of the time. *grumbles*

Yeah, well... since I can see the ad on the other PC now I could get a more accurate transcript down...

Anyone interested?

I kinda messed up with the one I did... some stuff was out of order, but the intent of the scene is fairly accurate...

[The Incredible Hulk]

I'd like to know what on Earth happens after Chloe says "Flotilla" because mine keeps crapping out after she says it... :mad:

BTW 5 hours 46 minutes....

[avidreader]

I'd like to know what on Earth happens after Chloe says "Flotilla" because mine keeps crapping out after she says it... :mad:

BTW 5 hours 46 minutes....

...or 8 hours 46 minutes.

[triplet]

Clark: How long have you known?

Chloe: I guess I've always had my suspicions. The quick exits, the miraculous recoveries, the lame excuses... But I think when I saw you catch a car like it was a beach ball, that kinda confirmed everything.

Clark: Why didn't you say anything?

Chloe: I figured if you wanted to tell me that you were part of the superpower persuasion, you would when you were ready. On your terms, not on mine.

Clark: You're a good friend, Chloe.

Chloe: Obviously not good enough.

Clark: There were so many times I wanted to tell you...

Chloe: Clark, I don't blame you, Loose lips sinks ships and God knows I've sunk my share of flotillas. (pause) What about Lana? Does she know?

Clark: No.

Chloe: Well, I want you to know that I will never be the iceberg to your Titanic and your secret will never, ever leave my lips. No matter what.

Clark: I appreciate that.

Chloe: There are still a few blind spots, though. Like how did we get beamed from the kawatche caves to the North Pole? And what was really going on in that 40 story igloo?

(clark spills alien-ness to chloe...)

[jas01724]

...or 8 hours 46 minutes.
... or around four months. ;)

[triplet]

My buddy Venom said he couldn't see the ad using Firefox, but could once he switched to IE...

If that's helpful...

[The Incredible Hulk]

...or 8 hours 46 minutes.


heh just another reason it sucks to be on the West Coast ;)

... or around four months. ;)

or Europe ;)

[AgentPat]

Review from Eclipse Magazine.
(with a few NEW spoilers, so beware)

This is it, we are promised: the season of 'Smallville' [The WB, 8 p.m.] where Lex Luthor makes the decision to go down the wrong path, while Clark Kent [Tom Welling] begins to learn that he has a responsibility to the whole planet! Despite the continued presence of Lois Lane [Erica Durance], the season premiere, 'Arrival,' fairly crackles with the energy of a series that has regained its focus.

In season four, 'Smallville' got mauling, wacky, campy and, overall, boring. Whether it was the 'Evil Charmed Ones' episode, or the introduction of Jane Seymour as a murderous, blackmailing *****, the show fairly pole-vaulted over the proverbial shark. As the season wore on, and the continued high-profile presence of Lois Lane deepened the need for one heckuva Big Red Reset Button, it got harder and harder to buy into the 'Superman-in-training' premise of the show.

Then came the season finale – the murderous Seymour and her hellspawn son [Jensen Ackles, now rocking the joint in fellow WB series 'Supernatural'], were gone; all traces of the 'Charmsville/Smarmsville' had been dealt with – and there was one big honkin' meteor shower, putting everyone of our series regulars in harm's way.

'Arrival' opens with Clark arriving [!] at the North Pole and flinging a certain crystal to the ice hundreds of yards away. In the sequence, which references Jeff East's similar scene in 'Superman: The Motion Picture,' we get to watch the familiar form of the Fortress of Solitude grow from the very ice. Inside the ice palace, a crystal disengages from a bank of similar crystals and floats into his hand. The Voice of Jor-El informs him that he must be trained if he is to save his foster homeworld.

In rapid succession, 'Arrival' deals with all of the season four cliffhangers: Lois finds Jonathan Kent [John Schneider] going through the wreckage of the Kent farmhouse, looking for Martha [Annette O'Toole], and pitches in to find her; Lana Lang [Kristin Kreuk] sees two oddly dressed people emerge from a spaceship in a crater, and they ask her where Kal-el is; Chloe Sullivan [Alison Mack] finds herself out of the cave, but in the Arctic – looking at a very strange building that is apparently made of ice; Lex [Michael Rosenbaum] regains consciousness in the cave to find Chloe gone, and eventually finds the badly injured Lana limping away from the crater...

The two aliens [Alana De La Garza and Leonard Roberts] are, of course, Kryptonians – and they want Kal-el to join them in making Earth a Kryptonian utopia. Their encounters with Lana, the local police and the people in Smallville's hospital show us that they are definitely evil. In a curious scene at the Luthor mansion, Lana is told, by a very creepy Lionel Luthor [John Glover, at his very best], that their only weakness is their home – which leads to a failed trap and a showdown.

Somehow, the script, by Todd Slavkin and Darren swimmer, manages to balance all the plot threads begun in the fourth season finale and weave them through to a most unexpected and eerie finale scene. There are other references to the 'Superman' canon that come as a surprise to the unspoiled – I won't say what they are so you can enjoy them completely – and that final scene comes as a bit of a surprise, as well.

'Arrival' is not perfect, by any stretch. The continued presence of Lois Lane, well before Clark is to meet her for the first time [at the Daily Planet], remains irksome, though the character is well played by Durance. Also, the feat of keeping all those plot threads in the air means that the episode is paced a bit too frantically – quiet moments are few and far between. Of those, an exchange between Chloe and Clark works the best, while one between Lex and Chloe, important as it is to the overall season arc, seems rushed.

Is 'Smallville' back on track? One episode isn't enough to really make that call, but the groundwork is definitely being laid for that to be the case – which is good for the show as it opens in one of the most hotly contested timeslots in primetime. Now all the show's creative team has to do is follow through.

http://www.eclipsemagazine.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1511

[avidreader]

When I click on it now it never plays out in full. I guess there are too many people trying to watch it.

[jas01724]

My buddy Venom said he couldn't see the ad using Firefox, but could once he switched to IE...I tried in IE, Firefox, Mozilla, Opera ... hmm, I may have too many browsers. Anyway, all I'm getting is an ad for FIFA.

Maybe someone could post the link that's on the ad? If we have the link we can (theoretically) see whatever the link leads to. :D

[triplet]

I tried in IE, Firefox, Mozilla, Opera ... hmm, I may have too many browsers. Anyway, all I'm getting is an ad for FIFA.

Maybe someone could post the link that's on the ad? If we have the link we can (theoretically) see whatever the link leads to. :D

I right click on it, all I get is the macromedia flash stuff... I couldn't find a link and I looked in the source code for the page too....

[jas01724]

Oh crap. I didn't realise it was a flash ad ...

What does it look like? The only SV ad I've seen on Yahoo! is the same as the ads they're running on thewb.com.

[avidreader]

It's of Tom/Clark's face, just flashin' around.

[triplet]

There's some macromedia type animations with flashes of people's faces, and then this is the final frame once that introductory part is over:


http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/593/flashad2lt.jpg

[muscaremy]

4 hrs 58 min

[jas01724]

Thanks ... so it's the same as the other ads, just with a different vid playing in it.

[Bad Superman]

4 hours and 56 minutes to go. In the meantime. . . .

http://www.kevinjapan.com/napoleon.gif

[triplet]

6 hours for me... I'm at work and I'm finding it hard to concentrate on actually working...

*sigh*

It's going to be a long afternoon....

[avidreader]

6 hours for me... I'm at work and I'm finding it hard to concentrate on actually working...

*sigh*

It's going to be a long afternoon....

tell me about it, I keep seeing these 4 hours to go things, and I'm 3 hours behind. I know there are folks out there that are some months behind, but the time is going slow. I'm getting hungry now, so I have to and have lunch, that'll kill some time right. :D

[Superman=Routh]

Almost Smallville Time! WHOO HOOO

[muscaremy]

least you got sumtin keepin u busy i currentyly unemployed and weather sux so i cant do anythin but sit and twiddle my thumbs

[Bad Superman]

6 hours for me... I'm at work and I'm finding it hard to concentrate on actually working...

*sigh*

It's going to be a long afternoon....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/Bad_Superman/shrek2_spotlight2.jpg

[triplet]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/Bad_Superman/shrek2_spotlight2.jpg

LOL!

I LOVE Puss in boots!

Thanks, made me smile while I'm killing a few minutes from the misery I'm suffering while writing process documentation that will allow someone else to do my job... http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif

(Muscaremy... my job is on precarious footing so I feel for you...)

That someone will probably be in Singapore, by the way. Part of my job is geting outsourced... I hope the rest of it doesn't at least until I can sell my damn house.

I so shouldn't even be on here but I can't help it... http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

I need breaks from the tedium and reminders that although my job is torture, TV is great and I can't wait the now 5 1/2 hours until Smallville!

[Bad Superman]

LOL!

I LOVE Puss in boots!

Thanks, made me smile while I'm killing a few minutes from the misery I'm suffering while writing process documentation that will allow someone else to do my job... :(

(Muscaremy... my job is on precarious footing so I feel for you...)

I so shouldn't even be on here but I can't help it... ;)

I need breaks from the tedium and reminders that although my job is torture, TV is great and I can't wait the now 5 1/2 hours until Smallville!

:) Mission Accomplished. :)

[muscaremy]

hehe "I am PUSS....... IN BOOTS" he deserves his own damn movie

[The Incredible Hulk]

4 hours and 56 minutes to go. In the meantime. . . .

http://www.kevinjapan.com/napoleon.gif


Your mom goes to college! :D

[Bad Superman]

Your mom goes to college! :D

Yeah. She's studying graphic arts. She's drawing me a liger at this very moment. ;)

[Bad Superman]

Well, I'm done for the day. I will write my review tommorow. Enjoy the show guys and gals!

4 hours and 5 minutes to go!

[The Incredible Hulk]

Yeah. She's studying graphic arts. She's drawing me a liger at this very moment. ;)

:up:
http://xo.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/liger.jpg

[Brainiac 8]

4 hours to go!!!!

[Dark_Lord]

Look what I found:

http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/1-/java/promotions/wb/050929/stream.swf

[avidreader]

least you got sumtin keepin u busy i currentyly unemployed and weather sux so i cant do anythin but sit and twiddle my thumbs

Oh, I know how you feel. I'm not allowed to work here in the U.S. Visa complications. I keep myself busy by volunteering at my kids' schools. I've actually started teaching art which I find fun. I also keep busy by doing what most women do best, SHOP.

Oh and I also come to play on Smallville Message Boards.

[avidreader]

Look what I found:

http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/1-/java/promotions/wb/050929/stream.swf

Cool, thanks heaps for that.

[The Guardian]

I'M DIEING TO SEE THE NEW SEASON, TONIGHT IS GONNA BE A LOT OF FUN.:supes:

[Serene]

I'm actually getting nervous.
I have things to do.. and I'm paranoid something's going to come up that will make me miss the show tonight. Maybe I'll go hide in the closet so no one can bother me until it starts.

[Dark_Lord]

I cant wait!!! Season 5 is going to be awesome!!!

[avidreader]

I'm actually getting nervous.
I have things to do.. and I'm paranoid something's going to come up that will make me miss the show tonight. Maybe I'll go hide in the closet so no one can bother me until it starts.

Breathe in, Breathe out.... everything will work out just hunky dorey.

[Kal-El 8]

Breathe in, Breathe out.... everything will work out just hunky dorey.

lol :D

[muscaremy]

just thought id say 1hr 4 min for me here so cool i get too watch season 2 repeat in 4 min on abc family than change and watch season premiere

[smsvmos]

ONLY 30 min till SMALLVILLE BEGINS. U WILL BELIVE THAT THE BOY BECAME THE MAN :supes: OUR SUPERMAN

[Mike_D]

9 min. and counting!

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Do these guys have effects guys that work on Stargate Atlantis as well ? While the first minute of the new Episode has a Total Rip Off of Atlantis Rising the FOS one was cool :up: I love the new title intro :up: It was also very cool how they RE CAPPED last Season. Can't wait to get the HR HDTV rip later tonight :up:

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thud3.gif

I'm speechless....
(and it just started)

[BT18]

Those effects were good but they could have done more with less (less elaborate but more realistic and less cartoony looking). At certain points it looked like the movie "Ice Age".

[BT18]

who is that new hot brunette and the guy who played Riley's black "Initiative" teammate in season 4 of Buffy?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Does anyone else besides me find it weird that theres no small WB logo bottom right of the Screen like usual this Season ? Bah never mind :down

[smsvmos]

DUDES THOSE SCEENS WHERE FROM SUPERMAN THE MOVIE :eek:

[AgentPat]

Does anyone else besides me find it weird that theres no small WB logo bottom right of the Screen like usual this Season ? Bah never mind :downIt's there on the HDTV signal? :(

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I wonder what Lex was thinking when he saw the 2 new guys Speed Off like that. It looked like he was thinking

"Hmmmm where have I seen that before I know someone who can do that"

That is exactly what he was thinking as they super speeded out of the desert in my opinion

[smsvmos]

The Chamber Reveald Sceens From Krypton

[smsvmos]

A Thats Sucks

[smsvmos]

A Thats Sucks THE STAR SHIP FROM SUPERMAN THE MOVIE NOOOOOOOOOO

[smsvmos]

THAT IS SO Un-Original :( I didnt like when Singer did it and I dont Like it now

[smsvmos]

The sceen from the Fortress of Solitud was 2 short :( COOL DONT GET ME WRONG but Short

[smsvmos]

BOOM THE FORTRESS Comes out and Bang he is in it? It was to fast. They should have made it more dramatic

[OobeDoobBenubi]

HOLY *****

Did Luthor say Zod sent them ?

[Zor-El]

Theyre disciples of Zod, yes.

[smsvmos]

Yes Lionel said ZOD and the Kryptonian females has a Z on her lower back

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I still thing Lex was thinking of Clark & how he would always disappear just like the 2 new guys did

[smsvmos]

that was cool and Lionel was cool how he came out

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Hmm that was kinda easy with how Clark dealed with those guys. I think they'll be back

[smsvmos]

DAMN IT IT WAS 2 Fast

[smsvmos]

I didnt like it at all

[smsvmos]

The Phantom Zone lookd cool how they created the tube but how the Kryptonian end was NOT GOOD AT ALL

[OobeDoobBenubi]

You can almost bet Zod himself will eventually come do things himself as those 2 failed :up: So Clarks punishment for screwing over Jor El was loosing his Power Bleh

[smsvmos]

10 min left and I have not been impressd

[OobeDoobBenubi]

The Phantom Zone lookd cool how they created the tube but how the Kryptonian end was NOT GOOD AT ALL

I highly doubt this is the last we will see of them. It is OBVIOUS they will BE BACK

[smsvmos]

Dudes This is not looking good for a season premier

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Dudes This is not looking good for a season premier

I agree with that & how long for Clark to be powerless ? It is going to be boring

[riotgirl77]

i like it

[BT18]

Where the F is James Marsters? I thought he was going to be in this episode

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Where the F is James Marsters? I thought he was going to be in this episode

Well what do you know

[BT18]

nevermind, there he was. Cool intro

[smsvmos]

Brainiac was Cool

[OobeDoobBenubi]

It is gonna stink with Clark Powerless for a while. Then when he gets his powers back Clark will go back to lying with Lana. God I hope this is the LAST time we deal with Clark & Lana it is going to get ANNOYING.

[smsvmos]

The season Premier was dedicated to Loeb Son that was cool

[Anguissette1979]

Zod.... not braniac, right? Or are both Zod AND Braniac in play here this season?

I can't imagine Zod being stopped just by sucking his disciples into the Phantom Zone!

(PS: I'm baaaaaaaaaaack)

[The Guardian]

THAT WAS AWESOME , I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE NEXT ONE.:supes:

[punishermax]

ZOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[smsvmos]

where the heck did u see ZOD ??? He was menttiond and thats it but NO ZOD. I was hopeing for an Alien look Brainiac for his first apperence

[punishermax]

I didn't see Zod, I didn't look up the spoilers and thought it was awesome that those 2 were disciples of Zod.

[tecnowraith]

So Brainiac is a crystalized-nontech andriod? That is a new twist/idea for what this version is like. It makes sense and they say that "he is Krypton" like from the animated show that would be cool.

[smsvmos]

I dont think this Season Premier tops last Season Premier

[Anguissette1979]

Zod was not seen but his disciples were there. The writers are dumb enough to leave THAT thread hanging so I think that eventually he'll show up.

I liked the James Marsters flash at the end.... set the Buffy and Angel fans who didn't know about him all aflutter.

[Mike_D]

Its brainiac, zod wasnt black sludge, LOL

[roach]

It is gonna stink with Clark Powerless for a while. Then when he gets his powers back Clark will go back to lying with Lana. God I hope this is the LAST time we deal with Clark & Lana it is going to get ANNOYING.

yeah He'll be powerless until Zod comes and then has to decide...just like in Superman 2

[uga2002]

10 min left and I have not been impressd

There's always one in every crowd. If you didn't like this show, then go watch Lost or something.

Great show. That's all I have to say.

[Zorex]

Great premiere. A LOT going on here, which is why I think they could have definitely made good use of at least another half hour. Either way...great set up. Lots of mythos stuff, while looking to push the characters + dynamics further....which is just GREAT.

I just about freaked out when they started showing clips of Krypton from STM floating around Clark.

[Anguissette1979]

I'm so not up on my movies but is it sad that I'm more looking forward to this season than to SR next summer? :-\

[The Incredible Hulk]

I'm so not up on my movies but is it sad that I'm more looking forward to this season than to SR next summer? :-\


No its not sad at all, come join the ever expanding club :up:

[punishermax]

Can I join that club, they freakin said Zod.

[ROBOTRON]

Smallville, a new season...its hawt again.



2nites episode was friggin' sweet.



Meteor shower includes 2 superhuman diciples of General Zod. They attack people looking for Clark. Cloe reveals the fact she knows about Clarks powers to Clark. Lex evil meter goes up a notch...he steals the invaders spaceship. We see the Fortress of Solitude and The Phantom Zone for the 1st time.



Spiderman symbiot suit leaves the spacship (pun).



Smallville is good again. Thank the maker.

[Mike_D]

I loved the premiere. Definately more mature than previous SV eppys (althought "Pariah" was pretty good). You can DEFINATELY tell that Tom Welling's acting is MUCH more better, maybe he carried what he learned from "The Fog" into this season. Its gonna be a GREAT season. :)

[Zorex]

I'm so not up on my movies but is it sad that I'm more looking forward to this season than to SR next summer? :-\
Not really....we all have our preferences, and, luckily, come next summer we'll officially be able to say that we have a nice abundance of Superman in the media :up:

[MJZ]

Fantastic episode. One of the best ever.

Never been crazy about these "lose your powers" episodes but it looks like it'll lead to more Jor-El + more FOS+ more Clana, so I'm a happy camper.

Brainiac was damn cool too.

[C Doody]

That was awesome. I Loved Chloe finally telling Clark she knows, And The Zod mention! This season will rule. :D

I Loved the new opening also.

[HUMAN]

Hmm, I liked the Phantom Zone up until they did a remake of the glass/window effect. Looked a little too cheesy. Should've just kept it as the bracelet when the vortex disappeared.

[MJZ]

Hmm, I liked the Phantom Zone up until they did a remake of the glass/window effect. Looked a little too cheesy. Should've just kept it as the bracelet when the vortex disappeared.

Of course it looked cheesy. That was the point. It was an homage to the past films and that era of SFX.

[The Question]

where the heck did u see ZOD ??? He was menttiond and thats it but NO ZOD. I was hopeing for an Alien look Brainiac for his first apperence


Well, mabey he only looks human for the sake of blending in. I'm sure later on we'll see him evolve into his ultimate technorganic form.

[Mike_D]

They just have him lose his powers until

he and lana have sex because hes mortal now. He'll get them back in a few episodes from now after he returns to FOS.

DId anybody remember the name of that song at the end? "Play the Angel" or "Play that angel"?? which title?

[Anguissette1979]

Not really....we all have our preferences, and, luckily, come next summer we'll officially be able to say that we have a nice abundance of Superman in the media :up:

Well, I DO have to watch SOMETHING until the new Batman movie comes out and I can revel in its fantastic-ness once more. ;)

[smsvmos]

Things that I didnt like about this Premier and take underconsideration that I love SV:

1. How the Fortress was created: It was 2 fast and then Clarks goes in and boom he is in the main chamber.

2. They used actual footage of Superman the Movie: Not verry original, u could see the ppl falling from the kryptonian buildings and the StarShip OHHHH GOD THE STARSHIP :( Whyyyyy? Whyyyyy? :( I dint like it when Singer used it and I dont like it now. TOTALY UN ORIGINAL.

3. The Kryptonians: How the heck do we now that one of them is named Nam-Ek and the other Ahrtyr or what ever her name was???? It was not even mentiond. Character development went down the toilet with that one.

4.My God Lana should be dead :eek: she fell from the sky and was bangd pluse she took a mayor hit from the Kryptonians but she seems to be OK???? her next sceen in the series should be in a freeking wheelchair for at least half a season. I can take the Lex flying arownd cause he is a man but Lana??

5.How Clark lost his powers: I didnt like that at all. I was more in the lines of Clark returning to the Fortress and saying to Jor-El "OK I took care of the guys so now Please Make me normal" and Jor-El saying "Ok Son but u will have to suffer the consecuences" that would have been cool but "ouch" im cut ? Not cool

in conclusion They tried to cramp 2 many things in one episode and hey faild

[Michael Corleone]

DUDES THOSE SCEENS WHERE FROM SUPERMAN THE MOVIE :eek:


Yeah that was very cool. This season should be damn good.

[The Guardian]

I LOVED THE FORTRESS, THE NOD, THATS NOD, NOT ZOD,:D TO THE MOVIES WAS AWESOME AND SYMBIOTE BRAINIAC WAS COOL, BUT I'M CURIOUS AS TO HOW LIONEL KNEW ABOUT ZOD, I GUESS WE'LL FIND OUT, ANYWAY THAT WAS SWEET, I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE AQUAMAN.:supes:

[Michael Corleone]

Things that I didnt like about this Premier and take underconsideration that I love SV:

1. How the Fortress was created: It was 2 fast and then Clarks goes in and boom he is in the main chamber.

2. They used actual footage of Superman the Movie: Not verry original, u could see the ppl falling from the kryptonian buildings and the StarShip OHHHH GOD THE STARSHIP :( Whyyyyy? Whyyyyy? :( I dint like it when Singer used it and I dont like it now. TOTALY UN ORIGINAL.

3. The Kryptonians: How the heck do we now that one of them is named Nam-Ek and the other Ahrtyr or what ever her name was???? It was not even mentiond. Character development went down the toilet with that one.

4.My God Lana should be dead :eek: she fell from the sky and was bangd pluse she took a mayor hit from the Kryptonians but she seems to be OK???? her next sceen in the series should be in a freeking wheelchair for at least half a season. I can take the Lex flying arownd cause he is a man but Lana??

5.How Clark lost his powers: I didnt like that at all. I was more in the lines of Clark returning to the Fortress and saying to Jor-El "OK I took care of the guys so now Please Make me normal" and Jor-El saying "Ok Son but u will have to suffer the consecuences" that would have been cool but "ouch" im cut ? Not cool

in conclusion They tried to cramp 2 many things in one episode and hey faild


How is any of that different from anything else theyve done as of late. At least it's about Superman and not some 17th century witch that JUST happens to be related to Lana.

[LastSon Kal-El]

I thought there would have been more of a fight with the kryptonians. Still, I enjoyed this episode. Welling's acting was top notch. His scenes with Allison Mack were excellent. He definitely has the look of "Superman"

[Morg]

oh man, I ****ing love it, my only complaint it wasn't long enough and that fight with those kryptonians were too easy

[smsvmos]

What they should have done was take season premier and continued it to episode 2 that way it had space for Character development

[tonytr1687]

Loved it. Only problem I had is I think they jumped the gun a little with Lex talking like a real villian when he's still not fully evil. The tone of voice he had with Chloe was a little much. Or maybe that was Rosenbaum going a little over the top.

[Wolfsbane]

I wish they would've had more time to do things. The fight was way too short. Other then that, I'm in shock. That was incredible.

[Anguissette1979]

I LOVED THE FORTRESS, THE NOD, THATS NOD, NOT ZOD,:D TO THE MOVIES WAS AWESOME AND SYMBIOTE BRAINIAC WAS COOL, BUT I'M CURIOUS AS TO HOW LIONEL KNEW ABOUT ZOD, I GUESS WE'LL FIND OUT, ANYWAY THAT WAS SWEET, I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE AQUAMAN.:supes:

Remember in the finale that the stone zapped Lionel. He now has all the Kryptonian knowledge. I think of him as like a Krypton librarian. I wonder if clark will ever use him as a resource and what Lex will do with him.

[Robin91939]

I liked it, a lot. Braniac at the end was really good, I liked how they had him as the hitchhiker, and having the computer piecesput him together.

Lois was handled awesomly, as was Chloe and Lex.

I hope we see those two Kryptonians again, and maybe Zod, but Aquaman and Braniac will be terrific DCU characters to see this season.

-R

[Zorex]

oh man, I ****ing love it, my only complaint it wasn't long enough and that fight with those kryptonians were too easy
I agree with both points.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Things that I didnt like about this Premier and take underconsideration that I love SV:

1. How the Fortress was created: It was 2 fast and then Clarks goes in and boom he is in the main chamber.

2. They used actual footage of Superman the Movie: Not verry original, u could see the ppl falling from the kryptonian buildings and the StarShip OHHHH GOD THE STARSHIP :( Whyyyyy? Whyyyyy? :( I dint like it when Singer used it and I dont like it now. TOTALY UN ORIGINAL.

3. The Kryptonians: How the heck do we now that one of them is named Nam-Ek and the other Ahrtyr or what ever her name was???? It was not even mentiond. Character development went down the toilet with that one.

4.My God Lana should be dead :eek: she fell from the sky and was bangd pluse she took a mayor hit from the Kryptonians but she seems to be OK???? her next sceen in the series should be in a freeking wheelchair for at least half a season. I can take the Lex flying arownd cause he is a man but Lana??

5.How Clark lost his powers: I didnt like that at all. I was more in the lines of Clark returning to the Fortress and saying to Jor-El "OK I took care of the guys so now Please Make me normal" and Jor-El saying "Ok Son but u will have to suffer the consecuences" that would have been cool but "ouch" im cut ? Not cool

in conclusion They tried to cramp 2 many things in one episode and hey faild

man someones's in M, B, & C mode tonight judging by your "blow by blow" account of the episode....

1. How much time did you really want them to spend on it? It shot up from the ground, and Clark walked in. They spent more time on it here than they ever did in Superman the movie.

2. Why is using footage from Superman the movie a bad thing? :confused: It's not like it was interspersed as actual footage, it was shown on that screen that Clark was looking at. It's called a homage man, they didnt do that because they were lazy. I'm not sure either how you can say "yo didnt like it when Singer did it" since you havent seen a thing he's done yet? :confused:

3. Did anyone ever call them Nam EK or Aethyr on the show? No. The only places those names were ever seen was on the script pages that K-Site took the spoilers from. It's not a lack of character development at all since their names were irrelevant to the plot.

4. She's laid up in a hospital bed which usually mean your worse off than you are when your just in a wheelchair. What more did you want??

5. You scenario wouldve been totally out of character for the show since Clark was just starting to embrace his powers and destiny at the end of last season. I dont see the problem with the way it happened on the show, once again Clark chose the well being of others over himself regardless of consequences and that's a big part of who Superman is. It doesnt get anymore Superman that that.

Honestly, judging by your commentary you seemed to dislike the episode 5 minutes into it. Your entitled to your opinion and all but your complaints seem a bit misinformed and others just dont make any sense. I had to check the web address on my browser to make sure this wasnt K-Site after reading that rant.

[Carter]

Lana is hot even when she's filthy and has broken limbs.
I gotta find me a girl like that.

And the show was awesome. I can't wait for next week.

[Evelisse]

Was good, and like some have said, only wish the fight at the end with the Kryptonians was bigger and longer. And you know, could have used some more John Williams theme music in the episode.


And yes once again James/Spike/Brainiac comes to only make a WB show even Better! :D

[smsvmos]

What I liked about season Opener and take in mind that I love SV:

1. How the Fortress came to be was cool and Clarks face was priceless :D

2. Clark telling Chloe was awsome and Chloe's answer was again priceless

3.HOw the Kryptonian handeld Lex was cool

4 Lionel sceen was freeking cool: The ZOD part was again Priceless

5. The Phantom Zone lookd cool but untill the part where they fell in it where the rectangle came to be.

6. At first I tought that Clark had taken Chloe to Sv but when at the end she was actually in another contry that was cool and how Lex found her :D

7.The Black Ship and BRAINIAC was AWSOME and PRICELESS

Those are some of the things that I liked

[Mike_D]

I found it funny that Lana was badley limping all over the episode...looked like she turned into a zombie as a result of the meteor shower, LOL.

[MJZ]

Lana is hot even when she's filthy and has broken limbs.
I gotta find me a girl like that.

And the show was awesome. I can't wait for next week.

I'm a Kreuk fan myself. :up:

Many don't like her character but I think she's one of the best parts of the show.

[storyteller]

Brainiac is made up of nanobots obviously. No possession but i will take this without any complaint. I just hope he gets his actual look for his "final" appearence.

[The Guardian]

Remember in the finale that the stone zapped Lionel. He now has all the Kryptonian knowledge. I think of him as like a Krypton librarian. I wonder if clark will ever use him as a resource and what Lex will do with him.

OH YEAH, I FORGOT, I'M OLD, IT HAPPENS!:D :supes:

[Anguissette1979]

I think John Schneider is pretty hot for an older dude. ;) Tom Welling is pretty tasty, too. :)

[Phantasm]

This.sucked.ass!

[The Guardian]

I think John Schneider is pretty hot for an older dude. ;) Tom Welling is pretty tasty, too. :)

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT GUYS OR A BUFFET DINNER.:D :supes:

[Anguissette1979]

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT GUYS OR A BUFFEE DINNER.:D :supes:

JS and TW can be part of my buffet ANY time.

[The Guardian]

JS and TW can be part of my buffet ANY time.

LOL! EEEEUUUUUUWWWW!!!!!, LOL!:D :supes:

[Darthkush]

I liked it a lot. Anytime Kryptonian characters show up, the show usually delivers. i liked Clark's confession scene with Chloe. I loved seeing the Fortress of Solitude(and hearing subtle little music cues from the films).

Marsters as Braniac I understood but I think many viewers will go "Huh? Spike is on Smallville now?". I'm extremely skeptical about this whole thing though. It's either gonna suck massively or just be "okay". I can't imagine it being great though. We'll see what happens.

Smallville has about 3 solid weeks to wow me.

[Spider-Gamer]

This episode was kick ass! :up:

[Mike_D]

he gets his powers back in the 3rd episode this season, good thing we dont have to wait forever eh?

i wonder if zod will appear this season...maybe season finale?

[MJZ]

I think John Schneider is pretty hot for an older dude. ;)

I hope I look that good when I'm his age. Both him and Glover are in great shape.

[AgentPat]

Day-um! That was just way too cool! :up:

Acting was the best its ever been. They are all so amazing now. And jee-zus! Welling is spot on. He really nailed it. And OMG, did he look good!!!!

The new title credits were AWWWWWWESOME!!!! I won't be fast forwarding through them for a while. LOL

Chloe's line about "SuperClark" had me rolling. Hah! Perfect.

So Lana knows about Kryptonite, but she leaves ALL of it inside the safe? Now if I were her, I'd have a few pieces handy OUTSIDE the safe, just in case. Silly. :p

I know they were dreadfully over budget with this ep, but I would have liked to see a longer, slower creation for the FOS with more bass in the audio track. Make it *feel* as huge as it looks. I would have also preferred a more interesting fight sequence between Clark and the two Kryptonians. It was just too easy.

Hey, what happened to Clark's newly learned back flip?

Damn, that darn Key gets around, doesn't it? ;)

And that final scene with Braniac. Um... anybody here watch the X-Files? C'mon! I half expected Alex Krychek aka Rat Boy to pop out of the Black Oil LOL.

All in all though, a GREAT FREAKIN' EPISODE!! I can't wait till next week!!!!!! :D

[MJZ]

I really liked when Clark ran out of the room and Chloe goes "whoa" or something, was hard to make out.

Welling's certainly starting to act very Supermanly and I'll be damned if his age isn't starting to show, no doubt on purpose. He looked a bit different in the hospital scene.

The new credits are great, very comic book, especially the end shot. :)

[Serene]

I can take the Lex flying arownd cause he is a man but Lana??
^Well that's says an awful lot. :rolleyes:


I LOVED this episode. Even though I had seen all those scene clips, it was still thrilling to see them in their entirety.

I gotta say this first of all.. Tom did an amazing job in this entire episode. You could practically see the Supermanly vibes coming off of him. Even at the end, with his powers gone, the guy somehow manages to convey such strength and character.

Chloe said all the things I'd expect her to say, and all the things Clark needed to hear. AM does such a consistently wonderful job. The only thing I wanted to hear was her telling him that it was Alicia who revealed his abilities to her. But maybe this wasn't the time or place for that conversation.

How the heck did Lex know where to find her at the end??? He was damn creepy in that scene.

The Kryptonians were a little short-lived.. but with all the story they had to cram in only one hour (minus commercial time), it seems understandable. I liked the square Phantom Zone thingy.. a nice homage.

The scene with Lex confronting Clark in the house made me sad for the friendship that is lost. Lex knew Clark was lying and I think it pissed him off, but also broke his heart.

I'm thrilled to pieces to see the actually having Lana *do* something as opposed to being left behind whenever there's any action. And the Clana scene was wonderful to see. The two of them are so comfortable working with each other after all these years and it shows.

I'm excited to see more of the FOS. Since they made it from the old cave set, I wonder if they'll utilize it as much as they did the caves. I hope so, it was damn cool.

Brainiac.. since he didn't speak, he's still Spike to me. ;)

Oh, and the opening credits.. awesome! (except for Tom's goofy hair) :p

Is it next Thursday yet? :D

[Triligors]

Absolutely love the new credits. As a poster stated above it had that comic book feel to it which was very amazing and new as well. It sure was refreshing for a different type of opener.

[muscaremy]

i thought the episode was slick ****. sure there were some faults but every show has one... only problem i had is that when clark and chloe were havin the talk in the hospital my hdtv went lil crazy and it looked and sounded like a jackie chan movie...... voice track was totally off. better after commercial.... so funny to see mouths movin but nuttin comin out.... so all chloe sed after he sped out was coooll... basically

[Superfreak]

Great episode, finally a little bit of quality.




However, they did drop the ball at the climax of the episode. It was too simple and too easy. Clark pulls himself free, and only has to give our villains a little push each to send them flying into the FZ. I thought that was a little too easy, and very anticlimatic.

The rest of the epi was gold though

[MJZ]

Great episode, finally a little bit of quality.




However, they did drop the ball at the climax of the episode. It was too simple and too easy. Clark pulls himself free, and only has to give our villains a little push each to send them flying into the FZ. I thought that was a little too easy, and very anticlimatic.

The rest of the epi was gold though

Well, it's Superman...

Frankly things are going to have to start getting easier for him.

[Triligors]

Yeah, also thought that. I will now save the day- shove, push. Glass flies away. How strong were these Kryptonians anyway? Even meteorfreaks put up a fight. Might have been the wind currents though that if knocked off balance they were sucked into it.

[amazingfantasy15]

Episodes like this are why I watch Smallville! Zod, the Phantom Zone, Fortress of Solitude, Brainiac, evil Lex, Chloe knowing the secret, two more Kyrptonians (they'll be back, hopefully soon). F'in great! Only problem I had is how the hell do the Kent's pay for these medical bills, there's no way they can get medical insurance and they're constantly in the hospital.

[smsvmos]

man someones's in M, B, & C mode tonight judging by your "blow by blow" account of the episode....

1. How much time did you really want them to spend on it? It shot up from the ground, and Clark walked in. They spent more time on it here than they ever did in Superman the movie.

Are u really sure??? I think that in STM they took abit more time u can time it if u want. But dont take me wrong It lookd better than in the movie 100 time better but they could have maid it a more dramatic entrance. For Example: A big Door where Clark has to put his hand in it to be identifyd or something along those line to make it look more like in the comics or something

2. Why is using footage from Superman the movie a bad thing? :confused: It's not like it was interspersed as actual footage, it was shown on that screen that Clark was looking at. It's called a homage man, they didnt do that because they were lazy. I'm not sure either how you can say "yo didnt like it when Singer did it" since you havent seen a thing he's done yet? :confused:

S Hulk for me Homage would be the Superman Theme Song or a cameo of one of the actors ala Chris Reeve , Margot Kidder, Terence Stamp ect.. ect..
But actuall footage from the movie is just a bit much and thats where I have the problem with SR cause they are doing the samething. And its true that I have not seen The Singer Movie but I have heard that Brando is goin to be in it and some more along those lines and I DONT LIKE. U can say that is a homage but I say Un-Original and yea it was lazy of their part since the even used one of the sceens from the StarShip Blasting away, and thats not even the ship that they used for the series. They could have done better

3. Did anyone ever call them Nam EK or Aethyr on the show? No. The only places those names were ever seen was on the script pages that K-Site took the spoilers from. It's not a lack of character development at all since their names were irrelevant to the plot.

All I can say is lack of Character Development. Here is why: Where is Kal-El? / He is not Kal-El / Oh The Key / U know where Kal-El is/ Oh its a Trap/ U must Join us Kal-El / If u Dont Join Us then goodbye/ AHHHHHH NNOOOOO
Thats It???
Come on??? U have to agree SHulk, that suckd :( I hate to Rant but it is the truth. At least they should have explain themselfs, make us feel who this guys where, something along those lines.

4. She's laid up in a hospital bed which usually mean your worse off than you are when your just in a wheelchair. What more did you want??

Take season 3 when the Horse hit her. That was cool cause she was in a coma for sometime and after that they fallowd up with the therapy episodes. And that was only a horse. But this is a Helicopter Crash + a Blow from one of the Kryptonians that sent her flying at least 10 feet in the air and I bet u that she is goin to be up and running in the next episode from what I hear in the Spoilers. Thats 2 much Way 2 Much. If they make Lana be in a Wheel chair for half a season then its ok but they are not goin to do that.

5. You scenario wouldve been totally out of character for the show since Clark was just starting to embrace his powers and destiny at the end of last season. I dont see the problem with the way it happened on the show, once again Clark chose the well being of others over himself regardless of consequences and that's a big part of who Superman is. It doesnt get anymore Superman that that.

Ok we agree that he embodys Superman to perfection and they did write him good in those sceens. But embrace ??? He wants to be normal like the rest of us and u can see that in the last sceens where he is Happy that he dosent have the powers, so that sceen that I told u, would have been way better than the "ouch"

Honestly, judging by your commentary you seemed to dislike the episode 5 minutes into it. Your entitled to your opinion and all but your complaints seem a bit misinformed and others just dont make any sense. I had to check the web address on my browser to make sure this wasnt K-Site after reading that rant.

SHulk maybe I just expected a hold lot more and made a whole movie in my head and then boom it all fell down :( But what the heck SV is Back and Superman is Back (Tom Welling)

[Venom71]

Well I thought it was a great season premiere....I was shocked to hear Zod's name mentioned and to see The Phantom Zone] I also liked it when Chloe called Clark SuperClark..that was funny. Looks like this is going to be a great season! :up:

[tonytr1687]

Hey can anyone tell me if the next episode skips ahead three months like they usually do after the premiere?

[KikiDee]

I found it funny that Lana was badley limping all over the episode...looked like she turned into a zombie as a result of the meteor shower, LOL.

Hee hee....my husband said the same thing.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Hey can anyone tell me if the next episode skips ahead three months like they usually do after the premiere?

nope it's all going to be sequential as far as i know...

[Amira]

i loved this episode...this is going to be great.

[muscaremy]

heres waitin for more brainiac stuff..... like someone sed is it next thursday yet

[RKromwell]

But actuall footage from the movie is just a bit much and thats where I have the problem with SR cause they are doing the samething. And its true that I have not seen The Singer Movie but I have heard that Brando is goin to be in it and some more along those lines and I DONT LIKE. U can say that is a homage but I say Un-Original and yea it was lazy of their part since the even used one of the sceens from the StarShip Blasting away, and thats not even the ship that they used for the series.


I am just going to guess that you don't know much about SR. It takes place after the events of Superman II. It will ignore Superman III and IV. Kinda like all the Highlander movies after the first, they should be ignored.




I thought tonights show was freaking perfect. Sadly, while I don't know for sure as I try to avoid the spoilers I think by the end of this season Lex will try to kill Chloe for not telling him what he wants. Good thing she is leaving town, so to speak.

Well I take that back, Clark should have punched the male kryptonian. Other than that I have no problems with the show and cannot wait until next week.

[batman44]

I gotta say I really liked this episode and I'm not even a fan of Smallville. The commercials were right, everything I wanted to happen...well did (for the most part anyway).Lastly, seeing Clark in that force field seeing Krypton... :eek: :up:

[smsvmos]

I am just going to guess that you don't know much about SR. It takes place after the events of Superman II. It will ignore Superman III and IV. Kinda like all the Highlander movies after the first, they should be ignored.

Yeas I Know all the info that is out there from SR and I Dont Like anything that they are doing. but thats something that it is not to be discuse in here so...

[Triligors]

The fortress of solitude teaches Clark further how to use his powers.... I wonder what this may mean. A new power this season? But which one.