OFFICIAL TNA Impact/Wrestling Thread

[Sarge 2.0]

I dunno, restarting the AMW thing might seem a little "jerky" narrative-wise. I guess it could work, especially if they win, but their characters need a big time overhaul, and soon.

[TheVileOne]

The heel turn was a big time overhaul for them. Especially considering it was the first time they've ever been heels in their history.

[Sarge 2.0]

Actually, I was talking about the Dudleys. AMW are great heels...but face Dudleys suck the meat missle.

[TheVileOne]

What I really just miss are Bubba's old heel promos from ECW.

[Hunter Rider]

Impact was pretty solid this past Saturday and Lockdown is shaping up well despite the carnytastic promo video for it
Steiner at the very least cut a solid heel promo and if they do the wargames match it will cover for any in ring deficiencies

Alex Shelley continues to stand out along with Joe as the freshest talents they have:up:

[The FallenAngel]

I wouldn't mind seeing Shelley with the X-Title soon. He's shown he has great skills all around.

[The_Mystery]

I just got into TNA around the time Christian got there. It's actually pretty good, although I'm still getting used to the way their ring looks. Although, I will say I didn't like Jeff Jarrett in WWF or WCW and the trend continues here. AJ Styles and Chris Daniels are probably my favorite TNA wrestlers now.

[Eklypze]

im the same as you mystery i got into tna when they went on spike but i gotta say that joe is probably my fav

[Kurosawa]

What I really just miss are Bubba's old heel promos from ECW.

Yeah, they need to go back to that as much as they can.

[The_Mystery]

He does move pretty fast for a heavy-set guy.

[3dman27]

it was nice to see sharkboy WIN one for a change

[Mr. Socko]

I use to like Steiner when he was face in wwe. As heel, he just sucked in wwe. Hopefully, he'll be better in TNA. I'm certainly looking forward to Sting vs Steiner.

AJ needs a title win!

[Hunter Rider]

Traci has me so confused:confused: :(

[TheVileOne]

Yeah, they need to go back to that as much as they can.
Thing is, a long while back, after he went to WWE and they won the tag titles, Bubba basically said he's not going to cut his old school style promos anymore.

And you can see in WWE, he altered his promo style quite a bit after a while.

When he and D-von first arrived in WWF in 1999, they made Bubba stutter, and it was pretty stupid. They were jobbers. The Dudleyz finally started getting over when they put them against the Hardyz and let them put people through tables like in ECW. Then Bubba kind of went back to old school ECW Bubba Ray for a while, but then they pretty much altered him into WWF Bubba as time went along.

AJ Styles has gotten to the point where he doesn't really need a title. He recently just had his longest reign ever as X division champ in 2005, so there you go. I mean in 2005 he won the X title twice and the world title once. Sooner or later I'd like AJ to get the lengthy world title reign that he deserves.

Shelley needs to be the guy to beat Christopher Daniels for the X title. We need a fresh face to hold the X title again. Shelley has proven time and time again to be one of the best workers and performers on the roster. He deserves the honor. His match with Lethal at Destination X is very underrated.

[LastSunrise1981]

I use to like Steiner when he was face in wwe. As heel, he just sucked in wwe. Hopefully, he'll be better in TNA. I'm certainly looking forward to Sting vs Steiner.

AJ needs a title win!

Steiner was an awesome heel in WCW. The problem is no one is going to let him do what he did in WCW, especially when you consider how unpredictable and ruthless he was.

WCW gave him a free run to say what he wanted and do what we wanted, which is why he got over in my opinion.

[The FallenAngel]

Shelley needs to be the guy to beat Christopher Daniels for the X title. We need a fresh face to hold the X title again. Shelley has proven time and time again to be one of the best workers and performers on the roster. He deserves the honor. His match with Lethal at Destination X is very underrated.I completely agree with you there. Shelley really is the one who should win it. He has fantastic skills all around, and frankly I'm tired of the same three people going for the X-Title over and over. Now that Joe's out of it, it would only leave AJ and Daniels. AJ doesn't need another title reign just yet. He's had it plenty of times, so he's set for a while. Daniels, I don't mind if he holds it for a while, but he should drop it to Shelley in the end. I thought Shelley's match with Lethal at D-X was awesome, btw. :up:

[Sarge 2.0]

I completely agree with you there. Shelley really is the one who should win it. He has fantastic skills all around, and frankly I'm tired of the same three people going for the X-Title over and over. Now that Joe's out of it, it would only leave AJ and Daniels. AJ doesn't need another title reign just yet. He's had it plenty of times, so he's set for a while. Daniels, I don't mind if he holds it for a while, but he should drop it to Shelley in the end. I thought Shelley's match with Lethal at D-X was awesome, btw. :up:Kind of like how Shelley should've been the one to win the ROH Title from AmDrag on 3/11? :o

[The FallenAngel]

Yes, exactly like that. He should've won it. He should win every title there is, everywhere!

[Keyser Soze]

On the subject of Alex Shelley, www.tnawrestling.com has a preview of the latest Shelleycam video. This one stars James Mitchell, and Christian Cage's wife.

The Abyss/Christian Cage feud just got a lot more interesting...

[Hunter Rider]

On the subject of Alex Shelley, www.tnawrestling.com (http://www.tnawrestling.com) has a preview of the latest Shelleycam video. This one stars James Mitchell, and Christian Cage's wife.

The Abyss/Christian Cage feud just got a lot more interesting...

Woah they just turned it up with that stalker angle,i like it.
It should add some real emotion to the feud and make it more than the standard "number 1 contender" based title match:up:

[OtepApe]

Hmmm, things just got a lot more interesting with the title match. Glad to see they are doing something like this, makes a change from your standard title match.

[The Ghoul]

Storywise, the Shelly cam is the best thing to happen to TNA. Shelly is doing a great job as a sleazy freelance papparazzi heel.

[3dman27]

On the subject of Alex Shelley, www.tnawrestling.com has a preview of the latest Shelleycam video. This one stars James Mitchell, and Christian Cage's wife.

The Abyss/Christian Cage feud just got a lot more interesting...
UH-OH

[Hunter Rider]

UH-OH

Whats the matter ?

[3dman27]

Whats the matter ?
i'm referring to james mitchell being videotaped with cristian cages wife by alex shelly either MITCHELL'S in big time trouble or SHELLY is

[Hunter Rider]

i'm referring to james mitchell being videotaped with cristian cages wife by alex shelly either MITCHELL'S in big time trouble or SHELLY is

Yeah but it's just an angle,should make the feud more interesting:up:

[The FallenAngel]

They should have Abyss go in the house and scare the crap out of her. That would be awesome.

[Eric Draven]

I think it's a bit creepier to have Mitchell start to stalk Cage's wife first. I mean, Mitchell looks very, very creepy at times.

[Sarge 2.0]

Mitchell looks very, very creep all of the time.

Especially since he claims that his eyebrows now "stay that way".

*shudder*

[Eklypze]

man mitchell is a huge anton lavey ripoff all he has to do is shave his head and hes like anton lavey reincarnated i mean i know he was supposed to be satanic and everything back in ecw but he just looks stupid lol

[The Ghoul]

man mitchell is a huge anton lavey ripoff all he has to do is shave his head and hes like anton lavey reincarnated i mean i know he was supposed to be satanic and everything back in ecw but he just looks stupid lol

Hey! I happen to really like the Anton Lavey ripoff. It really really works well, not just for him, but for whatever compony he works for. And his stable with Tajiri & Mikey Whipwreck in late ECW was so awesome & one of the few fresh ideas ECW had left in an era where all their ideas were being stolen... untill WWF stole it with the Ministry & the Brood. & WCW was teetering on full blown stealing sometimes with the stablee of David Flair, Crowbar & Daffney. (which I'm still pissed she wasn't hired by WWE. TNA needs to look into her when Raven returns she can be the "girlfriend.")

[Sarge 2.0]

I think Christy Hemme is supposed to be the "girlfriend", if she signs soon.

And yeah, Mitchell's character kicks ass. He's been a great manager for Abyss so far.

[Hunter Rider]

yeah strong rumours suggest Hemme will be the GF
Mitchell needs to try not to go to carny with his act IMO

[Eklypze]

mitchell is ok but i just still dont hold him in to high regard i mean yeah his ecw days were golden but hes just way to played out now if mikey whipwreck came to tna and teamed with abyss and had mitchell as a manger again it would really boost my opinion on mitchell cuz i mark the hell out for mikey

[Sarge 2.0]

I don't think he's played, especially since he's finally got a real monster to play off of.

I like Mitchell right now for the same reason I like(d) Paul Bearer, the sort of carny, over the topness adds to the mystique of the character he's managing, it seems like there could be an interesting story behind the wrestler.

[Sabretooth]

I applaud TNA for airing Impact on the same night as WWE HOF Induction Ceremony,but I'm going to tune into HOF this time. I've waited too long to see Bret Hart get inducted,and Impact has gotten very lame in the last few weeks.

[The FallenAngel]

Hell yeah, I'm ordering Lockdown just for Joe/Sabu.

[LastSunrise1981]

Hell yeah, I'm ordering Lockdown just for Joe/Sabu.

Should be a very awesome match. I hope Joe/Sabu at least get a 25 to 30 minute match.

[TheVileOne]

I will hand it to TNA, ending AJ/Joe/Daniels is the right move.

Now we get some new faces to go for the X title. Joe begins his ascenion to the world title.

Joe has never faced an opponent like Sabu before, I'm excited to see it.

[Savage]

Yeah, this oughta be awesome. :up::D

[Jason Blood]

I really want to see Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope win the tag titles

it would be great

[Eklypze]

man i used to love insane clown posse but now that im a bit older i think they are jokes now twiztid on the other hand are awesome

[TheVileOne]

I think ICP just sort of hosted their house show event. I don't think they are coming into TNA.

Their wrestling runs were really never anything of note.

[Hunter Rider]

Joes new shirt

http://www.tnawrestling.com/updates/images/main/joeshirt.jpg

[Sarge 2.0]

I'm buying like, ten of those. :(:up:

[The Ghoul]

ICP & all those "juggalo" crowds piss me off. these fat ****** tools who ruin my wrestling expirence. Not to mention ICP will always suck at life.

[Sabretooth]

Joes new shirt

http://www.tnawrestling.com/updates/images/main/joeshirt.jpg
That is now my #1 thing I want for my birthday. :(

[Sarge 2.0]

ICP & all those "juggalo" crowds piss me off. these fat ****** tools who ruin my wrestling expirence. Not to mention ICP will always suck at life.I hate Juggalos as much as anyone, but I find it hilarious that ICP wrestle. If they showed up at a local show, I would probably laugh my ass off.

[The FallenAngel]

Joes new shirt

http://www.tnawrestling.com/updates/images/main/joeshirt.jpgI'm buying like, everyone of those shirts. Even the small ones. I'll go hand them out at a pre-school or somethin. :o

[Sabretooth]

I'm buying like, everyone of those shirts. Even the small ones. I'll go hand them out at a pre-school or somethin. :o
Watch out for the soccer moms then. :o

[Eric Draven]

pffttt.....I'm eagerly awaiting the Scott Steiner shirt :rolleyes:



:o

[Keyser Soze]

Any luck tracking down spoilers for the Impact tapings?

[Mr. Socko]

I'd like them too

[Eric Draven]

Impact spoilers:

Full TNA Impact Taping Results (SPOILERS)
Posted by Larry Csonka on 03.28.2006

All of the action from tonight's tapings!

Credit: Richard Trionfo and PWInsider.com

Impact for April 1

Eric Young, Scott D'Amore and Bobby Roode come out to sing Team Canada and ripped on the United States. Team 3D came out through the crowd. They brawled and gave Roode the belly to back necnbreaker and Young the Wazzup headbutt. Petey Williams and A-1 hit the ring to take the advantage. Young hit a moonsault on Brother Ray. Roode hit The Northern Lariat on Devon. Young hit a top rope elbow on Devon through a table.

Jeremy Borash interviewed Scott Steiner, America's Most Wanted, and Jeff Jarrett backstage. Jarrett said that Sting was dictating the rules to TNA but it's his turn and declared Wargames would be an eight man match, listing his team as the men standing with him. Steiner said that the longer he has to wait to hear about a contract from TNA, the more people will get hurt.

NWA Tag Team champions America's Most Wanted defeated The James Gang. Gail Kim and Jackie Gayda were at ringside. Gayda tripped Chris Harris at one point, leading Kim to slap Gayda. James Storm tried to use a bottle but the referee stopped him. Konnan hit Kip with a slapjack and Kip was pinned. Bob Armstrong came out to check on the James Gang after the match.

Jeremy Borash interviewed Abyss and Jim Mitchell inside the ring. When asked about last week's Documentary, Mitchell said "Mission Accomplished" and said Christian Cage was trying to hide from defending against Abyss. He said that Cage left his wife vulnerable and wondered what it's going to take to get Cage to give Abyss a title match. They then showed the "second half" of the documentary, with Shelley and Mitchell going towards Cage's house. Christian confronted them and was jumped by Abyss. They brawled through Cage's house into his pool. Mitchell told Abyss to stop trying to drown Cage because they can't win the title from a dead man. Mitchell told Cage that things would get worse if Abyss doesn't get his title match.

Christopher Daniels come to the announcing table for the next bout.

Samoa Joe defeated Sonjay Dutt, Alex Shelley, and Chris Sabin in a Four Way Match, hitting the Musclebuster on Dutt. Before the bout, Joe got in Daniels' face. After the match, Joe and Daniels fought around ringside.

Backstage, Jeremy Borash interviewed Team Jarrett, who said they were going to the ring to call out Sting. They go to the ring. The lights go out. Rhino and The James Gang are in the bleachers. Rhino says on the mic that the mind games aren't over. Jarrett continued to talk but Ron Killings, Shark Boy, Norman Smiley, and Chase Stevens come out in another set of bleachers. Jarrett continues, but AJ Styles, Sonjay Dutt, Jay Lethal, and Chris Sabin come out on one of the entranceways. The lights go out and when they return, Sting is in the ring behind the Army. Sting hits all of them with the baseball bat. Team Canada and Alex Shelley hit the ring and the heels take over, but all the babyfaces rush the ring for the save. The segment was really good live.

Impact for April 8

Abyss vs. AJ Styles appeared to go to a no contest. Abyss went to get his bag of thumbtacks. Christian Cage hits the ring with a tire iron and attempts to go after Abyss. Security holds Cage while Abyss and Mitchell exit. Cage gets the mic and says that Abyss will get his title match at Lockdown. Cage says he has a question for Abyss, asking if he's ready to die after what he did to Cage's family, because Christian is.

In an Arm Wrestling Match, Bob Armstrong vs. Konnan. Homicide and The James Gang were sent to the back. Konnan refused to lock up several times. Hotstuff Hernandez hit the ring and hit Armstrong with a slapjack. The James Gang hit the ring.

Backstage, Jeremy Borash was in Larry Zbyszko's office, discussing the Samoa Joe vs. Sabu match at Lockdown as well as the World X Cup. Zbyszko announced he's been talking to wrestling companies all over the world and announced Christopher Daniels vs. Jushin "Thunder" Liger at Lockdown. Zbyszko announced that on the first Thursday night Impact, Samoa Joe will challenge Christopher Daniels for the X-Division championship.

The next match was scheduled to be Diamonds in the Rough vs. Norman Smiley and Shark Boy, but it never took place because Jeff Jarrett's Army came out. Jarrett went to the announce table while Scott Steiner and AMW attacked Smiley and Shark Boy. Steiner locked the Steiner Recliner on Smiley.

Alex Shelley defeated Roderick Strong and Chase Stevens after Sliced Bread #2 on Strong in a World X Cup Team USA Qualifying match, so Team USA is Shelley, Sonjay Dutt, Jay Lethal, and Chris Sabin.

Sting came to the ring and came back because he loves wrestling, the fans, and TNA. Sting said that Final Resolution was bittersweet because Jarrett put everything that was important to him on TV. He said that he'll return at Destination X and how his return was one-upped by Scott Steiner attacking him at the PPV. He said that the sweet part will be when he gets his hands on Jeff Jarrett at Lockdown and he will announce his Wargames team members on 4/13 on the first Thursday Impact. He dared Jarrett to come meet him face to face on 4/13. Jarrett's Army came out and everyone who was involved in the brawl "last week" came out to assist Sting.

Xplosion

Team Canada's Bobby Roode and Petey Williams defeated Jay Lethal and Cassidy Riley after the Northern Lariat on Riley.

Shark Boy and Chase Stevens defeated The Diamonds in the Rough with Shark Boy pinning both with a double Dead Sea Drop, then gave one to Simon Diamond after the match.

[NDX]

Some of those matches read to be really good.

But I hoping Raven was going to make his return at this taping.

[TheVileOne]

So here is what the Lockdown Card will look like:

NWA World Title Match:
Christian(c) vs. Abyss

X Division Title Match:
Christoper Daniels(c) vs. JUSHIN THUNDER F'N LIGER!

Wargames Match
Sting, The Truth, Rhino, and AJ Styles vs. Jeff Jarrett, AMW, and Scott Steiner

Grudge Match
Team 3-D vs. Team Canada

Sabu vs. Samoa Joe

Not too bad. I think it will end up being stronger than Destination X and last year's Lockdown if Daniels/Liger and Joe/Sabu deliver. Add an X-division X-scape match and you got a pretty damn good looking card. Better than Wrestlemania at least.

[Keyser Soze]

Yes, the card is looking very strong. You mentioned Daniels VS Liger and Joe Vs Sabu as being the highlights of the show, and they probably will. But in terms of storyline, both War Games and Abyss VS Christian Cage have been built up excellently so far.

Only match I have my doubts about is Team 3D VS Team Canada. Firstly, Team 3D should be fighitng AMW in Six Sides of Steel. Secondly, TNA already gave us this cage match on free TV.

Personally speaking, I see us having an Xscape match between Alex Shelley, Chris Sabin, Jay Lethal and Sonjay Dutt to see who gets to be Captain of Team TNA in the World X Cup.

[TheVileOne]

Yes, the card is looking very strong. You mentioned Daniels VS Liger and Joe Vs Sabu as being the highlights of the show, and they probably will. But in terms of storyline, both War Games and Abyss VS Christian Cage have been built up excellently so far.

Well I love Abyss and I'm glad to see him competing for the world title again. If I was the booker, I'd have him win the world title. Abyss has been overdue for a world title run for a LONG time. And I'd just love to see a heel champion OTHER than Jeff freaking Jarrett. We haven't had a good monster champion like Abyss in wrestling for a long time. I really see Abyss as the evolution of Vader.

Mitchell and Abyss remind me a lot more of Race and Vader than Bearer and Kane.


Only match I have my doubts about is Team 3D VS Team Canada. Firstly, Team 3D should be fighitng AMW in Six Sides of Steel. Secondly, TNA already gave us this cage match on free TV.


I agree, they've done this match SEVERAL times. It should be TEAM 3-D vs. AMW for the tag titles and Team Canada in the War Games. That way we get ALL the titles on the line for this show.


Personally speaking, I see us having an Xscape match between Alex Shelley, Chris Sabin, Jay Lethal and Sonjay Dutt to see who gets to be Captain of Team TNA in the World X Cup.

That's an awesome idea. Here's something cooler, JERRY LYNN as the special guest referee. Why? Jerry Lynn was the team captain of Team TNA for the first World X Cup.

[Hunter Rider]

The card is very strong but if Abyss wins it would be a disaster
I think Shelley should have been on Jarretts team

[TheVileOne]

The card is very strong but if Abyss wins it would be a disaster

I disagree, it would be a refreshing change. It gives us a strong heel champion and an unbeatable monster.


I think Shelley should have been on Jarretts team

I also disagree. Shelley is better served on an X division match where he will truly shine. Put him in the Wargames match and he will be minor in comparison to Jarrett and Steiner and just get squashed by Sting, Rhino, etc. which would just tick me off.

His match with Lethal this month was pretty damn cool.

[Keyser Soze]

VileOne, you make an excellent point about Team Canada and AMW. Eric Young and Bobby Roode should have been the ones filling out Jarrett's team. After all, we have the whole Eric Young/Sting dynamic to explore, which could make for some funny segments in the War Games match.

Lockdown is set to be an awesome PPV. And in my opinion, the main thing holding it back is that not all the titles are being defended. One of the things that has always set TNA apart from WWE is that all titles have value. And when TNA is trying to build its self as an alternative to WWE, the last thing they can afford to do is neglect their tag team division like WWE do.

[Hunter Rider]

I disagree, it would be a refreshing change. It gives us a strong heel champion and an unbeatable monster.

How is he an unbeatble monster:confused: loads of ppl have kicked his ass,he's just big over bumping Mankind ripoff and certainly not a guy they want to have flagshipping a show that they are trying to get over with the mainstream




I also disagree. Shelley is better served on an X division match where he will truly shine. Put him in the Wargames match and he will be minor in comparison to Jarrett and Steiner and just get squashed by Sting, Rhino, etc. which would just tick me off.

His match with Lethal this month was pretty damn cool.

Shelley has been a huge central point of the angle with Sting,to stick him in another random XD match with sabin or whomever seems a waste

[TheVileOne]

VileOne, you make an excellent point about Team Canada and AMW. Eric Young and Bobby Roode should have been the ones filling out Jarrett's team. After all, we have the whole Eric Young/Sting dynamic to explore, which could make for some funny segments in the War Games match.

Great point. I want some more pay-off to SHOWTIME Eric Young and Sting :) .


Lockdown is set to be an awesome PPV. And in my opinion, the main thing holding it back is that not all the titles are being defended. One of the things that has always set TNA apart from WWE is that all titles have value. And when TNA is trying to build its self as an alternative to WWE, the last thing they can afford to do is neglect their tag team division like WWE do.

Yeah, I liked it a lot better when they would usually have all their titles defended on EVERY show.

[TheVileOne]

Footage from the first TNA house show:

Chris Sabin vs. Alex Shelley:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=C8KBdAKU0Ec

AJ vs. Samoa Joe (WHOLE MATCH IN FIVE PARTS!)
http://www.youtube.com/results?related=TNA%20wrestling%20AJ%20Styles%20Sa moa%20Joe%20house%20show

Its unfortunate this show will never be on DVD. It looks like in Detroit, TNA totally out-classed the WWE. This was CLEARLY the better show than the crappy SNME.

[Sabretooth]

I'm glad that Shelley will be involved in a feud with Sting. At first I though this video camera gimmick was the stupidest **** ever,but then he started doing these films on Sting and Christian's wife,and all of them have been pure gold.

[Sabretooth]

I disagree, it would be a refreshing change. It gives us a strong heel champion and an unbeatable monster.

Surely this unbeatable monster that you speak of isn't the one that does HBK turnbuckle sells for AJ Styles. Surely. :o ;)

[TheVileOne]

I don't think Shelley's really feuding with Sting. Its more about Sting/Jarrett/Steiner.

[TheVileOne]

Surely this unbeatable monster that you speak of isn't the one that does HBK turnbuckle sells for AJ Styles. Surely. :o ;)

Not sure what you mean. I don't think I've ever seen Abyss flip up on a turnbuckle and back down like HBK.

If you mean selling offense for smaller workers, see Big Van Vader.

[Hunter Rider]

Not sure what you mean. I don't think I've ever seen Abyss flip up on a turnbuckle and back down like HBK.

If you mean selling offense for smaller workers, see Big Van Vader.

I can't believe your comparing the greatest big man worker of all time,a guy that had classics with everyone from Sting to Flair to Takada to Kobashi with a big indietastic mediocre worker like abyss:confused:

Vader sold the offensive comebacks smartly and within reason and the guys he was fighting were proper heavyweights,Abyss does flip flop Rock like bumps for Aj Styles and Chris Sabin drop kicks,he is the least smart worker in TNA

[TheVileOne]

I can't believe your comparing the greatest big man worker of all time,a guy that had classics with everyone from Sting to Flair to Takada to Kobashi with a big indietastic mediocre worker like abyss:confused:

Vader sold the offensive comebacks smartly and within reason and the guys he was fighting were proper heavyweights,Abyss does flip flop Rock like bumps for Aj Styles and Chris Sabin drop kicks,he is the least smart worker in TNA

I don't recall Abyss flip-flopping around. And he's not as big as Vader was either.

[Sabretooth]

Not sure what you mean. I don't think I've ever seen Abyss flip up on a turnbuckle and back down like HBK.

If you mean selling offense for smaller workers, see Big Van Vader.
I was joking. While Abyss sometimes oversells,it's better than acting like a zombie like most other big men and dark characters.

[Hunter Rider]

I don't recall Abyss flip-flopping around. And he's not as big as Vader was either.

Every time he takes a gore or a missile dropkick or a powerbomb from AJ he does that Stunner style sell Rock used to do,it's not how a smart big man works

Plus while not as heavy as Vader he is supposedly taller right ?

[TheVileOne]

Its not like the Rock wasn't a big guy either.

I dunno, I think he might be a little taller than Vader was, maybe.

Also, I can only recall AJ doing a powerbomb type move on him once, and he didn't do a weird flip-flop off of it.

[Hunter Rider]

Its not like the Rock wasn't a big guy either.

I dunno, I think he might be a little taller than Vader was, maybe.

Also, I can only recall AJ doing a powerbomb type move on him once, and he didn't do a weird flip-flop off of it.

Rock was getting hit by other big men and wasn't billed as a monster
Monsters feed small bursts of offense to faces and then cut them off,they don't take huge over exagerated bumps for them,thats what the face is supposed to do for the monsters offense

Look at how ROH booked him,he was far more effective from the bits ive seen of him in that promotion than he has been in TNA

[TheVileOne]

Rock was getting hit by other big men and wasn't billed as a monster
Monsters feed small bursts of offense to faces and then cut them off,they don't take huge over exagerated bumps for them,thats what the face is supposed to do for the monsters offense

Eh, that's what I see Abyss do for the most part.


Look at how ROH booked him,he was far more effective from the bits ive seen of him in that promotion than he has been in TNA

Well it shows that he has that capacity, which I admit, TNA is not as effective at booking than ROH.

[Hunter Rider]

Eh, that's what I see Abyss do for the most part.

His cut off transition moves are solid and his timing is good but his offensive giving needs to be toned down




Well it shows that he has that capacity, which I admit, TNA is not as effective at booking than ROH.

TNA wanted a Mankind clone and they got it,Abyss mannerisms are all out of the Mankind book but he isnt in Foley's league overall

They have a big agile man and need to make him fearsome not a freak
As ROH showed ringwise he can do that with the way he killed guys like Evans and Sydal without taking to much offense for these smaller guys
Im not sure how TNA can make him credible again as he has spent so long doing the weirdo thing
he should have been booked as a Vader-like killing machine from the start with a manger in the heyman mould like Brock had instead of a sideshow freak with a carny manager

[Keyser Soze]

I'm not complaining about James Mitchell. He's probably the best manager in the business, and has done more for getting Abyss over as a monster than anyone else in TNA.

[Sabretooth]

Anybody watching Distraction on Comedy Central? Joe,Kazarian, and Curry Man are back. :D

[Sarge 2.0]

Haha, I saw them the first time. It was great seeing Joe hold back, yet still brutalize those people.

[Sabretooth]

Yeah, I think Kazarian made that one guy tap out in the first one and then the host was saying how if they were in a prison,the contestant would be the b**ch :D

[The Ghoul]

http://www.progressiveboink.com/b/images/archive/cm4.jpg
:D

[Sarge 2.0]

No pic. :o

[The Ghoul]

No pic. :o
awww that sucks its an old indiee pic of Daniels as Curry Man

[TheVileOne]

FYI, on the April 13th Impact here is what its going to be:

Samoa Joe vs. Daniels for the X division title
AMW vs. Team 3D in a street fight
Sting vs. Eric Young

[The FallenAngel]

Pretty good iMPACT. Glad to see Roderick is back. :up:

[TheVileOne]

Yeah, back still doing nothing. But hey we finally saw the STrong Hold in TNA, albeit briefly. Gotta dig that.

[The FallenAngel]

Yeah, that was sweet. So was that standing moonsault he did. I wish they would bring Aries back so we can have Gen Next in TNA again. That team ruled.

[nite-owl]

Guys, I got a question its my birthday coming up soon and am thinking about getting some tna dvds. These are what I am thinking of geting:

The best of Christopher Daniels
Bound For Glory
Slammiversary
Genesis

Are these any good is there any you'll recomend?

[The FallenAngel]

Don't know about the others, but I heard The Best of Christopher Daniels was all clipped, and wasn't too good. But I'd say check out the Best Of Raven.

[nite-owl]

I have the best of Raven.

[Hunter Rider]

Guys, I got a question its my birthday coming up soon and am thinking about getting some tna dvds. These are what I am thinking of geting:

The best of Christopher Daniels
Bound For Glory
Slammiversary
Genesis

Are these any good is there any you'll recomend?

No Surrender has one of the better line-ups and Lockdown was pretty good

Bound For Glory was weak IMO and Slammiversery was a 1 match show

[The FallenAngel]

I have the best of Raven.Okay, then you should also check out the new one they have. Best of the Bloodiest Brawls.

[nite-owl]

Okay so I should get No Surrender and Lockdown. What about Genesis? What are some of the good events to get?

[TheVileOne]

nite-owl, I think of those 3, No Surrender is the best show.

[nite-owl]

Do any of yous recommend any tna dvds?

[NDX]

Do NOT buy the Christopher Daniels dvd. Worst wrestling dvd I ever purchased.

Still need the Bloodiest Brawls and Raven dvds myself.

[TheVileOne]

Do any of yous recommend any tna dvds?

Yes. For the best ofs:

AJ Styles
Best of the X division volume 1
best of the X division matches
Ultimate X collection
Raven

PPV DVD's:

Final Resolution 2005
Lockdown
Slammiversary
No Surrender
Genesis

PWI is reporting that Jushin Liger is OFF for the X Division title match at Lockdown. I'm very depressed about that now.

[Sarge 2.0]

Dammit, I really wanted to see that match too. :(

[TheVileOne]

I know Sarge 2.0, I'm so sad I could cry.

Imagine you were in the same room with Samoa Joe, and he was looking at you like he is in my avata.

You'd be sad too.

[The FallenAngel]

Damn, that match would've been amazing. :(

[3dman27]

I know Sarge 2.0, I'm so sad I could cry.

Imagine you were in the same room with Samoa Joe, and he was looking at you like he is in my avata.

You'd be sad too.
SAD? me i'd be scared you-know -what-less

[Hunter Rider]

WTF Joe has won the XD title from Daniels at the Impact tapings

[Sarge 2.0]

Guh? :confused:

What's the point of Joe moving up at Lockdown and Daniels going over at Destination X if Joe just wins it back so quickly?


There better be a good ****ing explanation for this.

[The FallenAngel]

What the hell? :confused: That doesn't even make sense.

[NDX]

I thought they were pushing Joe as a heavyweight with Lockdown. Unless this is just some makeshift storyline due to Liger being unable to show for Lockdown.

Hell, this seems pointless. Guess they really want to push the undefeated streak overboard. Who the hell are they going to have beat Joe now?

[Sabretooth]

That's stupid. Looks like we'll get Joe vs. Daniels vs. AJ.....again. :rolleyes:

Though admittedly I was never enthusiastic about Daniels winning the title at the last PPV. Someone like Sabin would've been nice.

[The FallenAngel]

Shelley should win it. :mad:

[Sabretooth]

Shelley should win it. :mad:
He's gonna be feuding with Sting anyway,isn't he? Out of Team Canada/Jeff Jarrett's army I personally would've liked Eric Young to get it.:o

[NDX]

I'm still pulling for Jay Lethal to capture the title.

[Sabretooth]

I definitely think Lethal will get it at some point. Could use more personality though.

[Sarge 2.0]

His promos are almost embarassing. :(

[NDX]

True, his mic work is, how can I put this nicely, atrocious.

[The FallenAngel]

Tonight...is the night...I've been waiting for. * Flex and weird facial expression*

[Hunter Rider]

TNA iMPACT! airs this Thursday April the 13th

Samoa Joe def. Christopher Daniels to win back the X Division title via a top rope Island Driver. The match went about 13 minutes. Daniels was a bloody mess.

Sting cut a promo and said he will announce his team for Lockdown later in the show.

Team 3D vs AMW ended in a no contest. Gail Kim and Jackie had a cat fight during the match. Team Canada ran in but Spike Dudley made his TNA debut making the save for Team 3D.

Sting defeated Eric Young The match was around 8 minutes long. Sting took a hard bump against the guardrail, and he did plancha dive out of the ring onto Alex Shelley and Eric Young. Sting won with a Scorpion Deathlock. Shelley attacked Sting after the match, but Shelley got put into the Scorpion Deathlock. Jarrett then came out and tried to hit Sting with a guitar, Sting used his bat to block the guitar shot. AMW then came out, followed by Scott Steiner and they beat up Sting. AJ Styles, Rhino and Ron Killings came out for the save, and they will be Sting's partners at Lockdown

[The FallenAngel]

Spike Dudley?! Holy crap.

[Sabretooth]

SPIKE? friggin sweet. :up:

[Sarge 2.0]

Spike in TNA? What will his name be, brother Spike?

[Hunter Rider]

Sting's team is not that exciting after his speed dial comment

[Sarge 2.0]

That might mean some interference will go on at the end of the match.

Hopefully they follow through with the speed dial thing.

[Sabretooth]

Spike in TNA? What will his name be, brother Spike?
Ew. But I could see them naming him that. But,ugh. :down

[Twitch]

I'll really will like Spike if they do a throwback to his ECW gimmick.Team 3D needs to turn back ECW heel.

[Eric Draven]

And what a better way for Team 3D to turn heel than to decimate Spike....again

[NDX]

Hey, having Spike on the show might be what Team 3D needs, without destroying him in the ring.

[nite-owl]

Yes. For the best ofs:

AJ Styles
Best of the X division volume 1
best of the X division matches
Ultimate X collection
Raven

PPV DVD's:

Final Resolution 2005
Lockdown
Slammiversary
No Surrender
Genesis

PWI is reporting that Jushin Liger is OFF for the X Division title match at Lockdown. I'm very depressed about that now.

Thank you:)

[Sarge 2.0]

And what a better way for Team 3D to turn heel than to decimate Spike....againI doubt they'll turn heel with this, but if they did it would be much better than them staying as their unbelievebly boring face characters.

[Hunter Rider]

Austin Aries has reportedly not recovered from the knee injury he suffered at TNA's Against All Odds PPV back in February and is still wearing a knee brace as a result. Aries also stepped down as the head trainer for Ring of Honor's wrestling school in order to take more international bookings.

Aries had originally passed up those opportunities due to commitments with both TNA and ROH. He is already booked for an upcoming 1PW event at the end of May in the U.K. In regards to his status with TNA, he hasn't been given any indication of being brought back after he was suspended in late February/early March.

It should be noted that when Aries originally signed his TNA deal, it carried ten guaranteed dates in Orlando. Aries has already worked all ten dates he signed for. This means at this time that TNA is not contractually obligated to bring him back. Roderick Strong, who was also suspended by TNA along with Aries, was recently brought back to a recent iMPACT! taping a few weeks ago

[Twitch]

I read over at DVDR that Sabu might not make it to Lockdown. :(

[Sarge 2.0]

****...first Liger now Sabu?

I guess that's why Joe won the title for tonights show, as a failsafe.

[Sarge 2.0]

Austin Aries has reportedly not recovered from the knee injury he suffered at TNA's Against All Odds PPV back in February and is still wearing a knee brace as a result. Aries also stepped down as the head trainer for Ring of Honor's wrestling school in order to take more international bookings.

Aries had originally passed up those opportunities due to commitments with both TNA and ROH. He is already booked for an upcoming 1PW event at the end of May in the U.K. In regards to his status with TNA, he hasn't been given any indication of being brought back after he was suspended in late February/early March.

It should be noted that when Aries originally signed his TNA deal, it carried ten guaranteed dates in Orlando. Aries has already worked all ten dates he signed for. This means at this time that TNA is not contractually obligated to bring him back. Roderick Strong, who was also suspended by TNA along with Aries, was recently brought back to a recent iMPACT! taping a few weeks agoIf Aries is gone completely, I'm going to go ahead and say TNA really dropped the ball with this one.

[Twitch]

****...first Liger now Sabu?

I guess that's why Joe won the title for tonights show, as a failsafe.

Yeah and its Daniels vs Joe (I think this is going to happen if Sabu can't make it) :(

[Sarge 2.0]

**** that. :(

Sabu/Joe and Daniels/Liger were what would basically make the Lockdown PPV for me. Ah well, at least the 100th show the night before in ROH will be awesome. :o

[Hunter Rider]

If Aries is gone completely, I'm going to go ahead and say TNA really dropped the ball with this one.

I agree,he is one of the brightest talents in the US they'd be foolish to let him go

Sabu/Joe is vital for Lockdown as far as im concerned,if TNA don't deliver that as well as the mix up with Liger it makes them look bush league

[Sarge 2.0]

Totally agree. If they can't come through with Sabu, and then he shows up at AONS in June, it will be big kick to the balls for the company. Lockdown was really looking excellent, too. :(

[The FallenAngel]

TNA is screwing up big time with some of this stuff. To let Aries go is a BIG mistake. Losing Liger was pretty bad, but now the possibility of a Sabu loss is really putting a hurt on them.

[The FallenAngel]

Joe/Daniels was a great match. That Island Driver was sick.

[Addendum]

Best opener I've ever seen.

[Addendum]

I'm a proud mark for Li'l Spike Dudley :D:up:

[The FallenAngel]

They didn't even say his name. I guess they can't.

[Addendum]

Just call him LSD.

At least they were still able to call his move "The Acid Drop"

[TheVileOne]

I won't forgive TNA if they let go of Aries.

But **** all, that Daniels/Joe match was like one of the best free TV matches of all time.

[Addendum]

Yup, and the best opening match for any Wrestling show, ever.

[3dman27]

whats this about jushin liger and sabu?

[Sarge 2.0]

There were problems with communication over Liger's appearence at Lockdown, thus the match won't be happening. And it's rumoured that Sabu can't show as well. Sans Sabu and Liger (the Liger match being the one I was really looking forward to the most) Lockdown isn't looking too great. Hopefully Sabu can show.

[The FallenAngel]

TNA.com says that Spike Dudley will now be known as "Runt". Wow...

[Sarge 2.0]

Well...at least it fits his character...

[The FallenAngel]

Yes. Brother Runt. Interesting...

[Sarge 2.0]

I would've rathered Brother Spike. :(

[The FallenAngel]

I know. He could've did what Rhino did, and just change the spelling.

[Sarge 2.0]

I'm so glad I TivO'd this last night, I'm just watching the Joe/Daniels match right now. God, it kicks ass. I think I can forgive Joe winning back the title now.

[The FallenAngel]

Although I still don't fully agree with him winning it back, I think it may have needed to be done due to the problems with Lockdown. The match more than makes up for it though. The ending rules.

[Sarge 2.0]

Hmm...Tenay said he would defend his title against Sabu....really?

I mean, I didn't think Sabu would win, but I didn't think they would make it a title match either. I guess Daniels is going to sit Lockdown out.

[TheVileOne]

No. Supposedly Daniels is going to face a "mystery opponent" now. Whoever that is.

I'm just praying its not Jeff Hardy.

[Sarge 2.0]

It might be Raven, but I wouldn't bet against Hardy.

[3dman27]

There were problems with communication over Liger's appearence at Lockdown, thus the match won't be happening. And it's rumoured that Sabu can't show as well. Sans Sabu and Liger (the Liger match being the one I was really looking forward to the most) Lockdown isn't looking too great. Hopefully Sabu can show.
thank you

[Addendum]

Brother Runt? That sounds lame.

Brother LSD would be killer.

[The Techno Bat]

Seeing Spike Dudley back was great, hopefully it will breath some much needed like back into Team 3-D, and interest. Although I would like to see Spike and Brother D-Von team up a bit more and go for the tag team titles and see Bubba more of a singles guy, he had some great feuds with HHH and has shown that he is a top player as a singles wrestler, I could see Bubba holding the NWA World Title.

Seeing Sting back on TV was really fun, and believe it or not I did miss the guy alot more than I thought I did. It's Show Time FOLKS!

Joe vs Daniels was GRRRREAT, S*cks that Daniels lost the belt though, but he is actually too good for it and should really be in the world title picture. I think TNA should have allowed the match to be seen from the start, I don't get why on a debut show they bring you into such a high caliber match up like this one halfway through it ? ? ?

[The FallenAngel]

Well, I heard the main reason they did it was because of the way it started when the broadcast aired. You go from UFC, right into seeing a dude get his head kicked in and bleeding. It catches the attention of the audience they're going for.

[3dman27]

Seeing Spike Dudley back was great, hopefully it will breath some much needed like back into Team 3-D, and interest. Although I would like to see Spike and Brother D-Von team up a bit more and go for the tag team titles and see Bubba more of a singles guy, he had some great feuds with HHH and has shown that he is a top player as a singles wrestler, I could see Bubba holding the NWA World Title.

Seeing Sting back on TV was really fun, and believe it or not I did miss the guy alot more than I thought I did. It's Show Time FOLKS!

Joe vs Daniels was GRRRREAT, S*cks that Daniels lost the belt though, but he is actually too good for it and should really be in the world title picture. I think TNA should have allowed the match to be seen from the start, I don't get why on a debut show they bring you into such a high caliber match up like this one halfway through it ? ? ?
you have a point there i wonder if runt ever gets a girlfriend would it be nora greenwald[molly holly?]

[TheVileOne]

Exactly. It was a stroke of brilliant strategy. No opening, just straight into Joe/Daniels.

[Addendum]

It didn't seem like "oh, another opening match. snore"

[TheVileOne]

I think they should just dump the opening and promos, and just start the show with a great match like that.

[Sabretooth]

Nah,that's good when they're trying to make a match vicious and all,but I'd get tired of it fairly quickly. It'd also seem like they're too cheap to have an opening.

[Hunter Rider]

What TNA need is to have some opening mic segments that are even close to being as good as the recent Edge/HHH/Cena ones to set the stage for their show,opening with a match will not interest the average viewer week after week

[Sabretooth]

The problem is what's 30 minute promos for Raw can only be like 5 minutes for TNA. They just can't have real long promos like that.

[Addendum]

The average viewer are just douches anyway. TNA should just stick to what works for them. And if they continue to have killer opening matches, I'll stick around and watch

[TheVileOne]

**** 20 minute promos. The slogan says more action less talk. If I want to watch 20 minute promos, I'll watch WWE.

I'll take Joe vs. Daniels every day of the week instead. I'm going to watch the replay tonight as well.

[Hunter Rider]

**** 20 minute promos. The slogan says more talk less action. If I want to watch 20 minute promos, I'll watch WWE.

I'll take Joe vs. Daniels every day of the week instead. I'm going to watch the replay tonight as well.

Then TNA will fail,if they want to make a go of things they need to have proper promo segments,the general audience doesn't care about workrate or stiff strikes

[The FallenAngel]

The problems that arise are based on the hour timeslot. If they had an extra 30 minutes, or an extra hour, they'd be able to get stories across better with longer promos. Average viewers would be able to understand what is going on. The only reason they went right into the match was because they wanted to get the attention of the audience that watches UFC, which is what Spike is building the station around.

[Addendum]

Dude, the WWE is not the end-all, be-all of wrestling. Yes, they're the only big name on the block today.

However 10 years ago, there was this little promotion based out of Philly. What was it's name? EC ****ing W. While they didn't have the big guns that the WWF and WCW had at the time, they were still popular for as long as they lasted.

They didn't have deep pockets. They didn't have guys that made the perfect promo every week. They went out and kicked ass, and let what was done in the ring speak for itself.

That's why to this day, Paul Heyman is the ONLY wrestling promoter that when the fans say "Thank you", they mean every damn word.

[Hunter Rider]

Dude, the WWE is not the end-all, be-all of wrestling. Yes, they're the only big name on the block today.

However 10 years ago, there was this little promotion based out of Philly. What was it's name? EC ****ing W. While they didn't have the big guns that the WWF and WCW had at the time, they were still popular for as long as they lasted.

They didn't have deep pockets. They didn't have guys that made the perfect promo every week. They went out and kicked ass, and let what was done in the ring speak for itself.

That's why to this day, Paul Heyman is the ONLY wrestling promoter that when the fans say "Thank you Paul", they mean every damn word.

As nice as that sounds,every guy working there's ambition was to leave and go to WWE and most of the workers didn't like Heyman cos he shafted them out of money,the bloodthirsty crowd that guys like Dreamer and Sabu killed themselves for may love him but most don't
Also TNA aren't aiming to be ECW or ROH and be indy bush league,they just spent half a million on Sting to try and become a big time promotion,they need to use the formula that works and it isn't 20 minute matches

[Addendum]

And when you have only 1 hour to show your product, you don't waste time doing 20 minute promos alongside a total of 15 minutes worth of commercials. That would only leave 25 minutes worth of wrestling for a 1 hour show.

That would be the definition of a ****ty product

[The FallenAngel]

They should start the show off with an appearance of a bigger name star, so the audience's attention is caught. Then they could do a match, then the needed promos, and so on.

[Hunter Rider]

And when you have only 1 hour to show your product, you don't waste time doing 20 minute promos alongside a total of 15 minutes worth of commercials. That would only leave 25 minutes worth of wrestling for a 1 hour show.

That would be the definition of a ****ty product

But if all they have is matches no one will care,guys pretending to hurt each other without purpose or character will not bring in an audience
They need to have one big promo segment a week focused on the main event scene,they need less of guys like Skipper and Dutt flipping around in qualifying matches

[The FallenAngel]

A big promo would be great, but it kinda goes against their slogan. They seem to be set on following it.

[Addendum]

I'd rather watch the matches. Save the drama for the WWE.

[TheVileOne]

Then TNA will fail,if they want to make a go of things they need to have proper promo segments,the general audience doesn't care about workrate or stiff strikes

Eh whatever. The point of the last Impact was to try and carry over some of the UFC audience. I doubt the UFC audiences cares about promo segments.

[Hunter Rider]

Put it this way,if TNA just put matches on all hour then they will crumble,the money Panda are investing is substantial and they aren't looking to appeal to smarks like ROH,they want the big money like WWE and to get that they will need to make the guys more than men in tights,there must be angles and promo's in order for the public to care why they are fighting

[Addendum]

Jesus. :rolleyes:

They can't do that in their current format of 1 hour. That would kill the product. No one would watch a 1 hour show that only has 25 minutes worth of wrestling.

[Hunter Rider]

Jesus. :rolleyes:

They can't do that in their current format of 1 hour. That would kill the product. No one would watch a 1 hour show that only has 25 minutes worth of wrestling.

25 minutes is enough,most of the matches are squashes anyway,it's buisness,once the audiecne begin to care about Joe and Daniels and the other guys on the roster then they can up the workrate but part of a successful promotion is promo and angle time
TNA right now execute matches with shoddy build and that will have to change if they are gonna succeed
Do you really think that 40 minutes wrestling and 10 minutes promo for 4 main feuds is enough ?
I wasn't suggesting they have segments as long as Edge/Cena/HHH i was using them as a quality guideline of how to make a match and feud interesting to the everyday fan,they could spread that 20 minutes of promo over 3 feuds each week and drop a match

[Addendum]

Then we agree to disagree.

[Hunter Rider]

Then we agree to disagree.

So in other words you would rather they didn't bother with hardly any promo time and just make 90% of the show matches ?

[Addendum]

I just want guys to shut the **** up and fight.

[Hunter Rider]

I just want guys to shut the **** up and fight.

But then TNA would just fold,that works for ROH b/c they budget for the smark crowd but with TNA they are spending the kind of money that demands that they make the kind of profit that can only be achieved by obtaining a big audience and guys pretend fighting for no reason won't get the job done

[Addendum]

TNA is 'Rasslin. WWE is "sports entertainment".

They are separate beasts and shall remain so.

[Eklypze]

like usual i gotta agree with you on this hunter

[3dman27]

I'd rather watch the matches. Save the drama for the WWE.
i agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY

[3dman27]

TNA is 'Rasslin. WWE is "sports entertainment".

They are separate beasts and shall remain so.
and thank god for THAT
now that the repeats aired i can sy i liked the jackie vs kim bit i hope tna builds on that

[Hunter Rider]

TNA is 'Rasslin. WWE is "sports entertainment".

They are separate beasts and shall remain so.

TNA is sports entertainment also,thats why they are paying half a million to Sting and are signing Goldberg and doinng tie ins with Baseball teams
If they wanted to remain wrasslin they should have stayed that way and being a sister company with ROH which is great,i love ROH but the fact is TNA are aiming to get a piece of the WWE pie

Now im curious are you seriously suggesting thatb in the 1 hour show they have mostly matches and expect the ppl to buy PPV's without any proper angles or characters ?

[Mister J]

I just started watching TNA on a regular basis and I gotta say I like it. A lot of people were talking about this Samoe Joe character, so I had to check him out. After I few weeks, I see what the buzz was about. That X-Division match between him and Daniels was badass.

This is good stuff and a nice change of pace.

[Sabretooth]

Cage alone brings the Sports Entertainment shtick. How many times does he open the show with a promo, or sometimes end the show with a promo?

I agree that they should bring in more of the entertainment thing. Without it,so many guys are left bland. I mean,they took a chance with Aries and Strong and they got real heat as a tag team,didn't they? The problem with it all is how much can you really have in 1 hour? 10-15 minutes alone is commercials,and then you can have like 1 promo and a few backstage segments,but then you also want to fit in 5-6 matches? Not gonna work.

[Sabretooth]

I just started watching TNA on a regular basis and I gotta say I like it. A lot of people were talking about this Samoe Joe character, so I had to check him out. After I few weeks, I see what the buzz was about. That X-Division match between him and Daniels was badass.

This is good stuff and a nice change of pace.
You should also see some of Joe's independent matches. His feud with Necro Butcher is some of the most hardcore **** I've seen in a long time. :up:

[The FallenAngel]

You should also see some of Joe's independent matches. His feud with Necro Butcher is some of the most hardcore **** I've seen in a long time. :up:You see their first match in IWA-MS? There were some sick spots in that.

[Addendum]

TNA is sports entertainment also,thats why they are paying half a million to Sting and are signing Goldberg and doinng tie ins with Baseball teams
If they wanted to remain wrasslin they should have stayed that way and being a sister company with ROH which is great,i love ROH but the fact is TNA are aiming to get a piece of the WWE pie

Now im curious are you seriously suggesting thatb in the 1 hour show they have mostly matches and expect the ppl to buy PPV's without any proper angles or characters ?
Have a quick promo that gets to the point that doesn't rely on T-shirt catchphrases. At most: a 3 minute promo. Then get to the match.

With the WWE unless the guys are saying some funny **** as in Steve Austin or the Rock, or if they always make interesting promos like Mick Foley, I ALWAYS tune out the promos.

And besides, when you watch whatever PPV a few years after the storylines are finished, you can enjoy the matches without having to follow whatever storyline

[Hunter Rider]

Have a quick promo that gets to the point that doesn't rely on T-shirt catchphrases. At most: a 3 minute promo. Then get to the match.

With the WWE unless the guys are saying some funny **** as in Steve Austin or the Rock, or if they always make interesting promos like Mick Foley, I ALWAYS tune out the promos.

And besides, when you watch whatever PPV a few years after the storylines are finished, you can enjoy the matches without having to follow whatever storyline
Yes but in order to sell the PPV at the time the audience need to be interested and a card full of matches with no reason other than #1 contendership or a title won't achieve that

I think they need the opening segment to be at least 6/7 minutes and be all about the main event guys,then lead into a match,make the match part of an ongoing feud as opposed to a random match and let it go 10 minutes,after that do a short 2 minute backstage skit and then another match,this time shorter highlighting a guy that's coming through
The next segment could vary from week to week and then close the show out with a match that is a result of the shows opening promo and end it so that the next week their is unfinished business with which to build the opening promo around

[MODOK]

My opinion...

Positives: Finishing moves. I cannot believe some of the moves that these guys make. WWE wrestlers seem to be more concerned about their health and earning ability (not that I totally blame some of them). Just look at the headlock-fest that is every Triple-H match these days.

Negatives: I think it is too similar to WCW in the 90's in a couple of ways. The heels seem to come out and squash the faces in the end just like the NWO used to do. Also, I cannot stand the whole "we gotta go" thing. A few months back I remember Kevin Nash walking to the ring when he hadn't been there in months. As soon as he got to the ring they were out of time, see you next week...

[Addendum]

Don't forget when RAW gets pre-empted for the dog shows, even though it is kinda funny

[punishermax]

Yes but in order to sell the PPV at the time the audience need to be interested and a card full of matches with no reason other than #1 contendership or a title won't achieve that

I think they need the opening segment to be at least 6/7 minutes and be all about the main event guys,then lead into a match,make the match part of an ongoing feud as opposed to a random match and let it go 10 minutes,after that do a short 2 minute backstage skit and then another match,this time shorter highlighting a guy that's coming through
The next segment could vary from week to week and then close the show out with a match that is a result of the shows opening promo and end it so that the next week their is unfinished business with which to build the opening promo around

Exactly. The casual fan, whether the IWC wants to admit it or not, are 95% of the people watching wrestling. They could care less about work ehtic, they want charismatic guys, who can have at least a decent match, but can also cut a killer promo. Casual fans could care less about Sonjay Dutt, Chris Sabin and others, because those guys don't deliver the great promos that usually, not always, but usually get guys over. TNA may be an alternative, but if they want to be an actual counterpoint to the WWE, then they have to get rid of the pointless 3 and 4 Way X Division matches that plague almost every Impact and put more focus on the building of fueds and building of individual characters. Established stars all ready have their character figured out, and thats why I think TNA is going after those guys, I don't blame them, I like it personally, although they could book those established stars better. People want to see factions that are entertaining, they really don't care about Sting's army or Jarrett's army right now. People will buy the PPV because it is Sting, but after a while the novelty of Sting will wear off and people won't care anymore. Sting's army consists of Sting, Killings, Rhino and Styles. Sting people will tune in for, Styles, pretty much can't cut an entertaining promo (remember, look at this like a casual fan), Killings still could do a lot more than break dancing in the ring, Rhino, overrated wrestler whose best days were in ECW. I like Rhino, but people build him up too much. Jarrett's army has AMW, himself, and BPP. Fans will watch that team, not for AMW but for Jarrett but for the most part Steiner.

Now I know most will disagree and pick apart this rant, but remember, put your personal bias towards the wrestlers or TNA itself, and try to look at TNA as if you were a 12 or 13 year old mark again.

[Sabretooth]

Well,when I was 12 wrestling sure as hell was different. No politics (at least,not as apparent) bright colorful gimmicks,and marking out over the dumbest **** (seeing Hogan legdrop as a child would seriously make my jaw drop)

[Eklypze]

Well,when I was 12 wrestling sure as hell was different. No politics (at least,not as apparent) bright colorful gimmicks,and marking out over the dumbest **** (seeing Hogan legdrop as a child would seriously make my jaw drop)

man i miss those days ill never forget the first time i saw someone get power bombed it was just godly

[Addendum]

When I was 12, I was a Bret Hart fan.

And I still am 15 years later

[Eklypze]

hell yeah dude i used to mark out for Bret Hart back in the day man i remember going to my first ever wwf house show back in like 93 and freakin out because i got high fives from Bret Hart and Owen Hart back when he was in High Energy with Koko B. Ware this stuff just seemed so much cooler back then because when your a little kid like that wrestlers just seem like Greek Gods it was like meeting your favorite comic books characters in real life

[Addendum]

Plus, I had Mid-Southern Wrestling/Continental Wrestling/Championship Wrestling Association and the USWA in my town as well.

And we also had the AWA Southern as well

[Eklypze]

really? where are you from cuz i remember when they used to do USWA i would watch Jeff Jarret and Brian Christopher fued all the time

[Addendum]

Memphis: Home of the Three Kings. Elvis, B.B. and Jerry Lawler :D

[Sabretooth]

When I was 12, I was a Bret Hart fan.

And I still am 15 years later
My friend got shaded by Bret Hart one time at a house show I think. I envied that bastard for the longest time.

[Addendum]

I never got a chance to go to any WWF event

[TheVileOne]

I haven't been to a WWF event since WM X7 in my hometown of Houston 5 years ago.

[Mr. Socko]

Bret Hart doesn't hold a candle to Sting.

[NDX]

Old WWE house shows were a lot of fun, why I'm hoping TNA will run a few in NYC one day.

Last house show I went was back in 1996 or 1997 at MSG, headlined by Mankind and Undertaker. First time I ever took the time to actually cheer the heel in a match.

Before that I saw a house show where Taker faced Bret for the heavyweight title and yelled at The British Bulldog. Man, those were good times.

[Eklypze]

the last time i went to any show was in 98 it was a raw taping i remember cuz Kane came out and sat fire to a Vader clock and it was the day after Cactus Jack and Terry Funk and been put in that dumpster and thrown off the ramp and when i saw that they were ok i felt so betrayed lol

[Eklypze]

lol man i remember the first heel i ever cheered for was Repo-Man i dont know why i just always thought he was really cool when i was a lil kid

[Addendum]

Everytime I saw Repo Man come out, I kept thinking about this...

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6305971285.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[NDX]

I always thought Repo Man was ****ing hillarious. Every time he skulked his way out to the ring I couldn't stop laughing.

World X Cup news - Hirooki Goto, who was scheduled to compete at in TNA's World X Cup Tournament, recently suffered a torn intercostal while training in the last few days. He is not scheduled to take part in the tournament anymore.

[Hunter Rider]

TNA scored a 1.1 rating in their debut on Thursday evenings on Spike TV. The episode was the most watched TNA iMPACT! ever since their debut on Spike TV. In all, a total 1.3 million viewers watched TNA's debut on Thursday

[Sarge 2.0]

That's good. They just need to move to 9 on Thursdays in a couple of months...Eleven on a week night is suicide. :(

[NDX]

Latest on talk of Goldberg to TNA

While nothing has really progressed in the TNA-Bill Goldberg discussions, the Wrestling Observer reports that TNA has already talked about a number of storylines to take place upon his—assumed inevitable—debut.

TNA has investigated a number of singles and tag options for the wrestler.

The company initially hoped to strike a deal with Goldberg prior to the taping of the debut Thursday night show, but that unfortunately did not happen. The assumption was that Goldberg would have been part of Sting’s team for the Lockdown PPV.

[Sabretooth]

That would've been awesome. Especially with Sting's ''speed dial'' comment.

[NDX]

It would have been nice for a one time only thing (such as this match at Lockdown), but otherwise I think it's a good think Goldberg is not in TNA.

[Donnie Darko]

I'm gonna be so pissed when Goldberg comes to TNA. I mean, look at all the actual TALENT they have in TNA. Now, when he comes, he's just going to keep those people off tv and waste my time as a viewer

[TheVileOne]

I'd be fine with never seeing Goldberg in TNA ever.

[Hunter Rider]

Signing Goldberg is a risky thing,he gives them a huge name that will draw interest but will he be willing to help establish the younger talent or just push himself

[TheVileOne]

My picks for Daniels mystery opponent for this Sunday. Chatter seems to indicate it will be someone new and interesting. So NOT Jeff Hardy:

1. Matt Sydal
2. Jack Evans
3. Chris Hero
4. Jimmy Rave
5. The Human Tornado
6. Puma
7. Black Tiger
8. KENTA
9. The Hard Gay
10. The Erotic Terrorist
11. Curry Man

Any other thoughts on who his mystery opponent will be? I doubt it's going to be Frankie Kazarian.

[NDX]

It has been confirmed that the main event of the TNA debut at the former ECW Arena in Philadelphia on June 9 called "Hardcore War" will feature TNA X-Division champion Samoa Joe defending his championship against both Christopher Daniels and AJ Styles in a Three-Way match.

Jeff Jarrett is also confirmed for TNA Hardcore War which will be his first ever appearance in the ECW Arena. Most of the major TNA talent are planned to also be there.

Tickets go on sale this Saturday morning at 10am (EST). An announcement on how tickets can be purchased and pricing for the show will come soon.

Enough with Joe/Styles/Daniels

[TheVileOne]

It's a house show, big deal. They recently did it at one of the UWF/TNA VA house shows.

[3dman27]

anyone got this weeks impact spoilers?

[Hunter Rider]

1. Matt Sydal
2. Jack Evans
3. Chris Hero
4. Jimmy Rave


Not Hero or Rave but Sydal is a strong possibility and Evans would be ideal as more know him


5. The Human Tornado
6. Puma
7. Black Tiger

Puma maybe but i don't see it being either of the others

8. KENTA
9. The Hard Gay
10. The Erotic Terrorist
11. Curry Man


It wont be any of these

[TheVileOne]

Supposedly Hiroki Goto is another possibility.

[NDX]

I'll quote myself on this one.

World X Cup news - Hirooki Goto, who was scheduled to compete at in TNA's World X Cup Tournament, recently suffered a torn intercostal while training in the last few days. He is not scheduled to take part in the tournament anymore.

If the injury is keeping him out of the tournament, I doubt he'll come here to wrestle in a cage, even if it is just one match.

[TheVileOne]

Wrong. He recently stated that his injury has healed a lot faster and he will still participate in the world x cup.

[NDX]

I'm just going witht he news I read a few days ago. I haven't seen an update on any of the pages I read yet. If he's healed, even better. Would like to see someone from the World X-Cup facing Daniels at Lockdown in order to promote it more.

sources: Pro Wrestling Torch

Sabu will be appearing at the Lockdown PPV after all. It was speculated that he may not be able to make it after he no-showed the last Impact tapings, and then TNA officials had problems contacting him. Things have been worked out though. Also, Sabu will more than likely be appearing at ECW One Night Stand 2 as well, he is not under contract to TNA.

[TheVileOne]

While I want to see Sabu vs. Joe, I'm somewhat annoyed that its an X division title match. Sabu isn't really X division and he's not really done anything to get the title shot.

The only reason its an X title match is because Joe is champion and they need another title match on the PPV.

[Sarge 2.0]

I think it had more to do with Liger, as they wanted to give weight to the title and Daniels' reign by having an opponent like Jushin. I think that the title match last Thursday would've ended with Joe being disqualified had Liger still been able to show.

[NDX]

The Latest On Frankie Kazarian

- Frankie Kazarian is looking to come back to TNA, but the promotion is against a Bentley/Kazarian reunion. TNAWrestlingNews.com is reporting that Bentley is said to have heat for his attitude and they don't want to pair Kazarian with someone who already has heat with some people.

There doesn't seem to be enough room for Kazarian to come back anyway.

[Sarge 2.0]

Yeah, he would probably just get stuck in limbo like Hoyt, (oddly enough) Bentley, The Naturals, and tons of others.

[Sabretooth]

He can still come back,just not as a tag team.

[NDX]

Bill Goldberg strongly considered joining TNA a few weeks ago. He would've joined Sting's team for the match at Lockdown. His motivation to join TNA was to "stick it to Vince." However, Goldberg didn't want "lower his value" by coming in for anything less than what he believed is fair money compensation for his name value. Unfortunately, Goldberg doesn't realize that the economics of wrestling have changed greatly since his time in WCW.


Backstage agent Terry Taylor recently had neck fusion surgery. He wore a neck brace at the last Impact tapings.


Scott D'Amore injured his shoulder at a wrestling show in Mexico two weeks ago.

source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

[The Ghoul]

My picks for Daniels mystery opponent for this Sunday. Chatter seems to indicate it will be someone new and interesting. So NOT Jeff Hardy:


11. Curry Man


HAHA!

While I want to see Sabu vs. Joe, I'm somewhat annoyed that its an X division title match. Sabu isn't really X division and he's not really done anything to get the title shot.

The only reason its an X title match is because Joe is champion and they need another title match on the PPV.

What?! If it wasn't for the **** Sabu has been doing since the late 80s all the way to today there would be no X-Division. I think he'd make a great short term champ... But it won't happen. I see someone else beating Joe, I don't know who but not Sabu.

[nite-owl]

Highlights from the Scott Steiner/TNA conference call

- TNA representative ran down the Impact ratings for Thursday’s episode and plugged Sunday’s Lockdown PPV.

- Steiner is looking forward to working with Sting. He said it was the Sting storyline the reason he came to TNA.

- Steiner said the chest tattoo was for his freaks.

- Steiner said he has no plans to return to Japan.

- He said he has no immediate plans to go for the NWA title and his efforts are turned to taking care of Sting.

- Steiner said he doesn’t mind if they bring in Goldberg, as he has already beat him.

- He said he was a big fan of “Superstar” Billy Graham, but he didn’t copy his gimmick.

- He said he has no plans to reunite with Rick Steiner.

- Steiner said Triple H is a very insecure man, and that he wouldn’t have his spot if he wasn’t “banging” the boss’s daughter.

- Steiner stated that Vince McMahon never picked up the WCW audience, and TNA could capitalize on that.

- Steiner said he is wrestling as much as he wants to, and would have no problem with drug testing as he has never failed a drug test in his life.

- Steiner said he had extensive work on his foot after leaving the WWE, including being in a cast for five months.

- He said his time away from wrestling was spent with women.

- Steiner trashed the Spirit Squad, and can’t believe WWE is pushing a “retard.”

- His post wrestling time will be spent with women, breaking Wilt Chamberlain’s “record.”

- Steiner talked about his long relationship with Jeff Jarrett dating back to the mid 80’s.

- Steiner said TNA’s hands are “on the button” when it comes to promos.

- Steiner said the time away from wrestling was good, and it made him miss the business.

- He said the “big poppa pump” gimmick is who he is, and said it’s natural for him to upset the crowd.

- When asked about Midajah returning, he said you never know.

- He didn’t want to comment on the war of words between AJ Styles and Batista.

- Steiner put over Stacy Keibler’s legs, and said he enjoyed working with her.

- When asked about comments made by Bill Watts, Steiner called him an “*******.”

- Steiner said the higher ups in Turner didn’t want wrestling, thus one of the main reasons WCW collapsed.

- Steiner said Eric Bischoff was the best thing that ever happened to WCW.

- Steiner said it would be good for TNA to become a traveling company.

[NDX]

Sabu suffered a broken arm and a concussion last week wrestling in Mexico.

As of now he is still scheduled to wrestle Samoa Joe on Sunday at Lockdown and has told those in TNA that despite the injury he will give the match 110%.

Hopefully he'll be able to work the UXW Chris Candido Memorial Show on May 20th. He's challenging Raven for the heavyweight title that evening.

Lockdown card -

--All matches will be inside the Six Sides of Steel Cage--

NWA World Heavyweight Championship Match
- Christian Cage (c) vs. Abyss.

Lethal Lockdown
- Sting's Army (Sting, AJ Styles, Rhino & Ron "The Truth" Killings) vs. Jeff Jarrett's Army (Jeff Jarrett, Scott Steiner & NWA World Tag Team Champions America's Most Wanted).

X Division Championship Match
- Samoa Joe (c) vs. Sabu.

Anthem Match
- Team 3D vs. Team Canada.

Xscape Match
- Chris Sabin vs. Elix Skipper vs. Petey Williams vs. Shark Boy vs. Chase Stevens vs. Puma.

- Christopher Daniels vs. mystery opponent.

Arm Wrestling Challenge
- Konnan vs. "Bullet" Bob Armstrong.

[Hunter Rider]

"Buff Bagwell was on the Ringside Insanity Internet show yesterday saying he would be backstage at this Monday's TNA taping and claims he will be working the show."

Credit: Gerweck.net


:( :down

[NDX]

"Buff Bagwell was on the Ringside Insanity Internet show yesterday saying he would be backstage at this Monday's TNA taping and claims he will be working the show."

Credit: Gerweck.net


:( :down

Wrestling news is getting more and more painful to read as of late.

From another wrestling board, Sabu should not miss any UXW dates. But then again, that forum is a piece of **** with more fake poster than anything else. So I won't hold my breath.

[Sarge 2.0]

Highlights from the Scott Steiner/TNA conference call

- TNA representative ran down the Impact ratings for Thursday’s episode and plugged Sunday’s Lockdown PPV.

- Steiner is looking forward to working with Sting. He said it was the Sting storyline the reason he came to TNA.

- Steiner said the chest tattoo was for his freaks.

- Steiner said he has no plans to return to Japan.

- He said he has no immediate plans to go for the NWA title and his efforts are turned to taking care of Sting.

- Steiner said he doesn’t mind if they bring in Goldberg, as he has already beat him.

- He said he was a big fan of “Superstar” Billy Graham, but he didn’t copy his gimmick.

- He said he has no plans to reunite with Rick Steiner.

- Steiner said Triple H is a very insecure man, and that he wouldn’t have his spot if he wasn’t “banging” the boss’s daughter.

- Steiner stated that Vince McMahon never picked up the WCW audience, and TNA could capitalize on that.

- Steiner said he is wrestling as much as he wants to, and would have no problem with drug testing as he has never failed a drug test in his life.

- Steiner said he had extensive work on his foot after leaving the WWE, including being in a cast for five months.

- He said his time away from wrestling was spent with women.

- Steiner trashed the Spirit Squad, and can’t believe WWE is pushing a “retard.”

- His post wrestling time will be spent with women, breaking Wilt Chamberlain’s “record.”

- Steiner talked about his long relationship with Jeff Jarrett dating back to the mid 80’s.

- Steiner said TNA’s hands are “on the button” when it comes to promos.

- Steiner said the time away from wrestling was good, and it made him miss the business.

- He said the “big poppa pump” gimmick is who he is, and said it’s natural for him to upset the crowd.

- When asked about Midajah returning, he said you never know.

- He didn’t want to comment on the war of words between AJ Styles and Batista.

- Steiner put over Stacy Keibler’s legs, and said he enjoyed working with her.

- When asked about comments made by Bill Watts, Steiner called him an “*******.”

- Steiner said the higher ups in Turner didn’t want wrestling, thus one of the main reasons WCW collapsed.

- Steiner said Eric Bischoff was the best thing that ever happened to WCW.

- Steiner said it would be good for TNA to become a traveling company.Wow, he comes off as really bitter.

[The FallenAngel]

I find it incredibly stupid that there is going to be an arm wrestling match inside a steel cage. I also fear that this might lead to LAX getting punked by a dude in his 60's and two douche bags. Poor Homicide. :(

[Sabretooth]

Imagine if Steiner said some of that **** at a TNA taping. Kinda like in WCW where they let him say what he wanted to.

[NDX]

I personally would rather see Homicide in the main event world title hunt with Abyss. I feel TNA could use someone like him in a real nice feud with Christian.

[Sarge 2.0]

Homicide is too busy jobbing to the Old Age Outlaws and their dad.

[NDX]

I'm only saying what I want to see, not what's happening, unfortunately. Truly a horrible storyline.

[Sarge 2.0]

I'd like to see how Homicide and CC work together as well. His character would fit much better than Abyss in this whole "invading Christians home and driving him to the edge" thing. But unfortunately Homicide is stuck trying to bring credibility to guys who probably shouldn't even have careers anymore.

[NDX]

I'd like to see how Homicide and CC work together as well. His character would fit much better than Abyss in this whole "invading Christians home and driving him to the edge" thing. But unfortunately Homicide is stuck trying to bring credibility to guys who probably shouldn't even have careers anymore.

I was thinking the exact same thing. It just seems like it would fit his character properly. Plus he could play it off by having a gang behind him while Cage is going at it all alone. It could have really worked.

Although this storyline works well for Abyss, too. So far it has been the most interesting angle I've seen (except for Christian's "Are you ready to die" line) since I started watching TNA.

[The FallenAngel]

When are they gonna start the whole Sting/Shelley matches part of the feud that was supposed to take place?