OFFICIAL TNA Impact/Wrestling Thread

[TheVileOne]

In honoUr of TNA's debut on Spike TV tomorrow night, I've decided to start a new thread devoted to all things TNA. This includes Impact on Spike TV (Wrestling Channel and EuroSport for you Europeans/UK people), PPV's, DVD's, and Xplosion.

The state of professional wrestling that it is today, its more important than ever that TNA succeeds and hopefully continues to build itself up.

Impact debuts on Spike TV this Saturday and here's the card:

AJ Styles vs. Roderick Strong - AJ Styles is the current NWA TNA X Division champion. Roderick Strong is one of the top indy wrestlers of the world today and the messiah of the back-breaker. They've faced each other before in TNA and the indy scene in some great matches so I'm excited about this.

X Division Triple Threat: Alex Shelley vs. Petey Williams vs. Chris Sabin - Shelley's also one of the top indy guys as well and part of ROH. He recently rejoined TNA's roster in June of this year. Petey Williams is the second longest reigning X Division champion ever behind Christopher Daniels. Sabin is one of the few guys who has held the X division title more than once and has won more of TNA's Ultimate X matches than anyone else. These are 3 of the top and best wrestlers in the X division so I expect this to be of PPV quality :) .

Rhino vs. Jeff Hardy - Well Rhino rocks and Jeff Hardy sucks.

If anyone wants to know spoilers for the first 2 Impact episodes I can post them in blacked out tags tags.

TNA Bound For Glory is set for October 23rd, and its going to be TNA's biggest PPV and signature event of the year. Here's the run-down of the current card:

AJ Styles vs. Christopher Daniels for the X Division Title in a 30 minute Iron Man Match.

Samoa "Jaw" Joe vs. Jushin Thunder Liger, for the first time in professional wrestling history. This is an X Division dream match.

Ultimate X Matt Bentley vs. Chris Sabin vs. Petey Williams. Three of the best in the X division in the X division signature gimmick match.

Monsters' Ball II - Rhino vs. Abyss vs. Sabu vs. Jeff Hardy. Hardcore brawl type match.

The first three matches alone will probably put it over anything the WWE has done on PPV this year bar none.

[punishermax]

I even took the night off to watch Impact.

[TheVileOne]

Yikes. Hope you aren't disappointed then :) .

[SLYspyder]

finally, let the seperation of the WWE and TNA discussions begin

[TheVileOne]

Yeah I figured it was about time what with TNA being on Spike now and all.

And it gets kind of overwhelming with all the wrestling talk just in one thread.

I figure if anyone wanted to we could probably start an INDY wrestling thread as well.

Cause INDY wrestling rocks :) .

[punishermax]

I bought the TNA Anthology the other day with Lockdown, Victory Road, and Turning Point, and it was the best $20 I've spent in a long time. I so freaking stoked for Impact on Spike, I only watched one Impact since they left FSN, so I can't wait to finally see Impact on an actual TV again.

[TheVileOne]

I can't find that set ANYWHERE.

I've checked three Supercenters around Austin, total bust.

Wal-mart sucks :mad: .

[3dman27]

finally, let the seperation of the WWE and TNA discussions begin
i concur

[TheVileOne]

Less than 3 more hours guys :) .

TNA wrestlers like Christopher Daniels have been popping up during commercials for the Ultimate Fighter marathon to promote Impact.

My boy Daniels rocks.

[punishermax]

One hour, almost time to get my tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches ready.

[cabel]

Kickass opener!

[punishermax]

Pretty good show, like to see the return of Nash and the "Deadlys"

[TheVileOne]

It looks like they are actually Team 3-D now according to Don West.

Good show. I enjoyed Strong/AJ and the X Division 3 way.

Next week's show is going to be much better I think and Bound For Glory is going to be awesome.

[punishermax]

3-D, Deadlys, whatever they call themselves, its just gonna be nice to see them go up against actual talented tag teams for the first time a 3-4 years.

[TheVileOne]

I can't wait to see Dudleyz/Naturals and Dudleyz/AMW.

At Bound For Glory I'd make Dudleyz vs. Naturals vs. AMW in a Full Metal Mayhem match.

[Super Kal]

I enjoyed it. Yeah, some of it was bad acting, but they can improve on that. If they work on their acting and performances, they could rival the WWE in a few years. TNA also takes me back to the days of the ECW...

[punishermax]

They surpass WWE in entertainment and mostly talent, now all we need is the average wrestling fan to tune in.

[cabel]

yeah, which is why they need to get a better time slot

[TheVileOne]

Impact's going to be shown on Thursday twice in November I believe.

[punishermax]

Why?

[Incrediblejeff]

I knew I was missing something,I totally forgot about it aww man I can never forgive myself now.

[TheVileOne]

Why?
I think they are pre-empted due to some UFC stuff.

IncredibleJeff, don't fret.

They replay Impact THIS MONDAY late at night. 11PM Central Time Zone.

[Incrediblejeff]

Yay,I did'nt really miss it sort of.I'll set my Dvr.

[3dman27]

now if they can just get A WOMENS DIVISION going everything will be alright in the wrestling world

[TheVileOne]

Now is not the time to start a womens' wrestling division in TNA.

They definitely don't have enough time to start doing that yet.

If they get another hour, then maybe they can start doing that.

And as of now the only 2 women wrestlers they have are Gail Kim and Traci.

[Matt Murdock]

OH MY GOD! I can't believe I've been missing out on Impact! for as long as I have! This is some of the best wrestling I've seen in years!

[3dman27]

i was visiting tna.com last night and noticed sharkboy on their roster will he be appearing on impact or is he unavailable due to his dispute with robert rodrequiz regarding the rights to the name sharkboy[the movie sharkboy and lavagirl]

[jackcool]

As far as I know, he's still available. I saw him wrestling on Impact before. Hell, the commentators even acknowledge that he's currently disputing with RR over the name......

[TheVileOne]

Sharkboy's still there. The dispute of the movie is on his part since he owns the name, gimmick and character.

Here's the card for the next Impact to air this Saturday. From the Oct. 2nd addition of the Bank Shot from TNAwrestling.com:


Main Event: Team 3D vs. America’s Most Wanted – first time ever!
The 3Live Kru vs. Team Canada
The monster Abyss vs. Sonny Siaki
“The Fallen Angel” Christopher Daniels vs. Matt Bentley vs. Austin Aries
A major announcement concerning Tito Ortiz

So another four matches next week. I hope Daniels/Bentley/Aries gets more time than the triple threat this week since it has the potential to be PPV quality.

[Jason Blood]

was impact! any good?

I missed out on it :(

[TheVileOne]

I thought it was pretty good Jason Blood.

If you missed it, you can watch the replay on Monday.

[punishermax]

Main Event: Team 3D vs. America’s Most Wanted – first time ever!
The 3Live Kru vs. Team Canada
The monster Abyss vs. Sonny Siaki
“The Fallen Angel” Christopher Daniels vs. Matt Bentley vs. Austin Aries
A major announcement concerning Tito Ortiz

AWESOME!!!

[Savage]

Awesome stuff. Acting was crap and it looked like they were trying to show off because they finally got picked up and all but the wrestling itself was great. Didn't like the whole "hey look at me!" "no! look at me!" thing they had going the whole night with that Raven thing. Everybody wanted attention...And Alpha Male kind of made an ass out of himself in doing so. It even sounded off when he said "the pooooouunce".

But again, once they got in the ring, all gold. Monty Brown kicked ass and I really want to see him fight Rhino. All my faves(Sabin, Williams, Brown, Rhino and Styles) kicked ass tonight with the exception of Chris Daniels who didn't get to fight. Really glad that this is getting out there. Spreading the word. Everyone I know must check this out. Can't make fun of wrestling after watching this. I mean most of the time I'm watching it I'm like "...No. You can't fake that! Can you?! He really hit him!".

[3dman27]

i'll have to look at the tape of the show i made

[TheVileOne]

Remember guys, if you missed TNA on Saturday it replays TONIGHT, Monday in about 35 minutes.

[punishermax]

Just think, all of those who are new to TNA, this wasn't even close to the best Impact I've seen.

[Savage]

oh yeah. :D

[3dman27]

i'll have to look at the tape of the show i made
i did check it out this should be pretty good stuff

[TheVileOne]

Ratings update for TNA Impact on Spike.

The first Impact on Spike drew a .8 Nielson rating.

While it may not seem like a lot, that is DOUBLE what the last Velocity on Spike TV drew, .4 rating. Spike TV was hoping for a .5 rating for the first show.

[Chaos]

From Meltzer

WWE legal sent TNA a letter demanding they not call their "wrestling superstars," or "superstars" in publicity or commentary, because that's a WWE trademark term for its talent. Bill Banks, who handles the TNA web site, is going out of his way to use the term "TNA star" instead of "TNA Superstar".


Can WWE get anymore ****ing pathetic? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/Constantine/rolleyes1.gif

[TheVileOne]

That is pretty pathetic.

IMPACT replay from last night drew a .5 rating.

So the first Impact scored a combined rating of 1.3.

[TheVileOne]

BTW way guys, The TNA Best Of Anthology DVD's are now out at all major stores.

I picked up the Best Of AJ Styles today at Best Buy for $19.99. Plus shipping charges, I paid probably $15 less than if I had to have ordered it on the TNA website.

Other TNA DVD's released this week:

Best Of Raven
Best Of Jeff Hardy
Best Of X Division Volume 2

In November I believe they will be releasing:

Final Resolution
Against All Odds
Destination X

[Hunter Rider]

TNA are never gonna break the UK market if Eurosport keep this up,http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif

The episodes are months old,there's no promos,no backstage segments,no storylines and the commnetators are dubbed over with 2 of eurosports own crappy guys,oh and you can't here the crowd or the entrance musichttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon13.gif

[TheVileOne]

TNA are never gonna break the UK market if Eurosport keep this up,http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif

The episodes are months old,there's no promos,no backstage segments,no storylines and the commnetators are dubbed over with 2 of eurosports own crappy guys,oh and you can't here the crowd or the entrance musichttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon13.gif

Wait, is Eurosport just airing re-runs and not the new stuff?

You should send Eurosport some feedback and tell them they are ****ing up their TNA broadcasts.

[Hunter Rider]

Wait, is Eurosport just airing re-runs and not the new stuff?

You should send Eurosport some feedback and tell them they are ****ing up their TNA broadcasts.

The matches they are showing are lead ins to Lockdown and they arent proper TNA Impact shows.they are just matches with Eurosports own Comentators dubbed over the top
I registered tonight with Eurosports website and went into their forums,it is full of ppl complaining about the way they are using TNA,i put my complaint in but the thread has been there 2 weeks when i arrived and not one response from the Eurosport adimistrators

[TheVileOne]

It sounds like you need to get The Wrestling Channel hunter-rider.

[3dman27]

is there REALLY a wrestling channel? thevileone?

[Hunter Rider]

It sounds like you need to get The Wrestling Channel hunter-rider.
TNA really need to look into this as it's painting a bad image of their show
I was hoping it would catch on here and we would get some DVD's released

I still havent seen a Samoa Joe Match:mad:

BTW what was the PPV that Jeff Hardy fought Abyss on ?

[Hunter Rider]

is there REALLY a wrestling channel? thevileone?

Yes there is,it shows TNA,ROH and some Japanese promotions as well as old classic matches

[TheVileOne]

TNA really need to look into this as it's painting a bad image of their show
I was hoping it would catch on here and we would get some DVD's released

I still havent seen a Samoa Joe Match:mad:

BTW what was the PPV that Jeff Hardy fought Abyss on ?

Abyss fought Hardy at Against All Odds and Destination X. Abyss beat hardy at Against All Odds. Hardy beat Abyss at Destination X.

There is a wrestling channel but its a UK thing.

[punishermax]

Can't wait for the Triple threat match tonight.

[TheVileOne]

Can't wait for the Triple threat match tonight.
Yes I hope the X Division triple-threat this week gets more time than last week.

Tonight's Impact card:

3 Live Kru vs. Team Canada

X Division Triple Threat - Matt Bentley vs. Austin Aries vs. Christopher Daniels

Sonny Siaki vs. Abyss

For the first time ever - America's Most Wanted vs. The Team Formerly Known As The Dudleyz, Team 3-D.

[Hunter Rider]

Yes I hope the X Division triple-threat this week gets more time than last week.

Tonight's Impact card:

3 Live Kru vs. Team Canada

X Division Triple Threat - Matt Bentley vs. Austin Aries vs. Christopher Daniels

Sonny Siaki vs. Abyss

For the first time ever - America's Most Wanted vs. The Team Formerly Known As The Dudleyz, Team 3-D.

Damn that sounds good,How come Aj and Samoa Joe arent on the card ?
I heard some Rumours Joe may be the next NWA champ

[punishermax]

I think they want Joe to help lead the X division after his match with Liger at BFG.

[TheVileOne]

Damn that sounds good,How come Aj and Samoa Joe arent on the card ?
I heard some Rumours Joe may be the next NWA champ

AJ wrestled last week and they are trying to show other parts of their roster. Plus they taped this show the same night as the first one. Its tough when you only have one hour a week and bi-weekly tapings.

It looks like they are saving Joe for the PPV and building him up for now.

I don't think Joe will be world champ anytime soon.

[Hunter Rider]

AJ wrestled last week and they are trying to show other parts of their roster. Plus they taped this show the same night as the first one. Its tough when you only have one hour a week and bi-weekly tapings.

It looks like they are saving Joe for the PPV and building him up for now.

I don't think Joe will be world champ anytime soon.

There pushing him as an unstoppable heel with a killer finisher right ?

[TheVileOne]

Joe's more of a tweener than a heel.

But yeah, that's the gist of it.

They are pushing Joe more like a silent, legitimate badass as WWE should be doing with guys like Benoit.

[Hunter Rider]

Joe's more of a tweener than a heel.

But yeah, that's the gist of it.

They are pushing Joe more like a silent, legitimate badass as WWE should be doing with guys like Benoit.

He's surprisingly agile for a man his size,i expect he'll win something soon
I don't think this JJ/Nash feud is a good idea

[TheVileOne]

The Nash/Jarrett feud is a horrible idea, but they are doing it anyway :( .

[Hunter Rider]

The Nash/Jarrett feud is a horrible idea, but they are doing it anyway :( .

I think there using Nash to draw the fans that only know the big names,the idea being is that when they buy the PPV to see Nash they will be hooked by the X division

[TheVileOne]

I think there using Nash to draw the fans that only know the big names,the idea being is that when they buy the PPV to see Nash they will be hooked by the X division

That's the THEORY. It still sucks though :) .

[Hunter Rider]

That's the THEORY. It still sucks though :) .

Oh yeah the matches will blow BUT if it does the job and gets fans into TNA then thats all that matters

[punishermax]

They should never let Tito talk.

[punishermax]

Nash's music sucks.

[TheVileOne]

Yeah it blows.

Show's been pretty good though.

[cabel]

ouch...

[Eric Draven]

I think there using Nash to draw the fans that only know the big names,the idea being is that when they buy the PPV to see Nash they will be hooked by the X division

Except I don't really see any of the fans caring about Nash. Hell, I'm sure the fans would care more about Raven being in the main event than Kevin friggin Nash.....

[TheVileOne]

Fans were pretty cold toward Nash, Jarrett, and Ortiz tonight.

[punishermax]

Thats because they suck.

Ortiz (in his squeaky voice way): My punishment, is quick and fair.
Jarrett (in his southern moronic talk): You don't scare me.
Nash: RRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAGHGGGGGHGHGHGHGGHGHGHGHGHG!

[TheVileOne]

Matches announced for next week from TNAWrestling.com:

Main Event: "The Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels in an "Ironman Challenge" against three opponents of AJ Styles' choosing!

"The Homicidal, Genocidal, Suicidal" Sabu vs. "The Man Beast" Rhino

"The Alpha Male" Monty Brown in action

Matt Bentley w/ Traci vs. David Young

[Eklypze]

i just watched TNA for the first time tonite and it was pretty good i gotta say that X match thing looked freakin awesome im gonna have to check this stuff out more often but that move that Joe does (i dont know what its called) is awesome! its really a shame we dont see much innovation like that in WWE i wish i woulda got into this a long time ago

[TheVileOne]

The move Joe does on his opponents off the corner ropes is called the Muscle Buster.

His submission move is a rear-naked choke called the Kojita Cluth. I like to call it the You're My ******.

[Hunter Rider]

Except I don't really see any of the fans caring about Nash. Hell, I'm sure the fans would care more about Raven being in the main event than Kevin friggin Nash.....
You may be right,he doesn't have the legacy or fanbase that true legends like,Hogan,Savage,Flair have but i think they are hoping the casual fans or indeed WWE fans will see his name and buy the PPV

[Hunter Rider]

The move Joe does on his opponents off the corner ropes is called the Muscle Buster.

His submission move is a rear-naked choke called the Kojita Cluth. I like to call it the You're My ******.

What about that move where he drops them from the firemans carry position onto their head ?

[Matt Murdock]

Damn I missed it last night.Will they show it again?

[Hunter Rider]

What was the last TNA PPV to feature a Ultimate X match ?

[Metamorpho1977]

Nash's music sucks.

It almost sounds like the old Wolfpac music.

[TheVileOne]

What was the last TNA PPV to feature a Ultimate X match ?
Traditional Ultimate X was at Final Resolution 2005 in January of this year.

If you count Ultimate X challenge, that was in March 2005.

[Hunter Rider]

Traditional Ultimate X was at Final Resolution 2005 in January of this year.

If you count Ultimate X challenge, that was in March 2005.

Whats the difference between the two ?

[TheVileOne]

Ultimate X Challenge at Destination X had 3 falls and 4 competitors and elimination rules.

First fall was pin/submission under tag team rules. Second fall is pin/submission under triple threat rules. The last 2 men face each other under Ultimate X rules for the final fall.

Sort of stupid and confusing, but it was a little different than typical Ultimate X.

[Hunter Rider]

Ultimate X Challenge at Destination X had 3 falls and 4 competitors and elimination rules.

First fall was pin/submission under tag team rules. Second fall is pin/submission under triple threat rules. The last 2 men face each other under Ultimate X rules for the final fall.

Sort of stupid and confusing, but it was a little different than typical Ultimate X.

Hate to sound a novice at X division but i am:p but what exactly is the ultimate X match ?
It seemed from what i saw that the belt hung from the roof and the guys were diving off structures built onto the ring posts to try and grab the belt

[TheVileOne]

Best way to describe Ultimate X is a ladder match without the ladder.

Four tower structures are on the outside of the ring. From the top, two cables go across each other in an X shape. The X Division belt is from the cables. To win you have to climb the towers and scale across the cables to grab the belt to win the match.

[Hunter Rider]

Best way to describe Ultimate X is a ladder match without the ladder.

Four tower structures are on the outside of the ring. From the top, two cables go across each other in an X shape. The X Division belt is from the cables. To win you have to climb the towers and scale across the cables to grab the belt to win the match.

So we now know which PPV im buying first,that is what i want some damn innovation:up:

[TheVileOne]

Ultimate X is the epitome of innovation and in-ring excellence.

:)

[Hunter Rider]

X Division is the epitome of innovation and in-ring excellence.

:)

You seem to know all TNA stuff so let me know if they anounce some UK market DVD's please:up:

[Hunter Rider]

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Gail Kim finally made her debut in TNA Saturday night on Impact as she low-blowed Brother Devon and aligned with Jeff Jarrett and AMW. TNAWrestling.com has posted a kayfabe article on Gail joining up with Jarrett and Team 3D getting beat down to a bloody pulp.

The reason that Team 3D got beat down in storylines is because Brother Ray and Brother Devon have a prior commitment in Japan in which they must to attend to, hence the injury angle. They won't be available at Tuesday's Impact tapings, however, they'll be taking on America's Most Wanted at Bound For Glory in two weeks.

Jushin Liger is booked to wrestle at Bound For Glory not to mention at the Impact tapings the following Tuesday. He'll be working with the younger X-Division wrestlers. He may be used again in the future, but it's not certain.

Kenzo Suzuki and Hiroko inquired for work in TNA last month, but TNA is not interested in using them. Test also inquired for work, but they said they have nothing for him now. A.J. Styles was said to have lost his cool and expressed his displeasure to management when he saw a bunch of former WWE stars backstage at the TNA Unbreakable pay-per-view last month.

The WWE 90-day, no-compete clauses of Shannon Moore, Jackie Gayda, Charlie Haas, Matt Morgan, Billy Kidman, Mark Jindrak and Dawn Marie all expired on Wednesday. Shannon Moore is pretty much a sure thing to join TNA. Jackie Gayda seems to be a lock as well as TNA wants more women. Charlie Haas and Matt Morgan are possible. Billy Kidman is possible, but less likely. TNA seems to have no interest whatsoever in Mark Jindrak though.

And last, but not least, Dixie Carter would welcome Dawn Marie with open arms if she so chooses to join TNA in the future. Dixie Carter was pregnant earlier this year and feels for her considering that she was fired while pregnant. Dawn's due later this year or early next year. It is not known if Dawn Marie still has her heart in wrestling. If she ever joins TNA, the wait will be a long time.

[Eric Draven]

I remember seeing Kenzo during some of the early TNA days. He wasn't that impressive. And he wore the ugliest pair of pants when he wrestled. Bright pink pants :(

Haas and Morgan would be interesting. So would Kidman, but with the number of injuries he gets, I wouldn't see him lasting in TNA long....

[TheVileOne]

That's great they got Liger for Impact after Bound For Glory.

Here's your next two Liger matches:

Liger vs. Chris Sabin

Liger vs. Matt Bentley

[3dman27]

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Gail Kim finally made her debut in TNA Saturday night on Impact as she low-blowed Brother Devon and aligned with Jeff Jarrett and AMW. TNAWrestling.com has posted a kayfabe article on Gail joining up with Jarrett and Team 3D getting beat down to a bloody pulp.

The reason that Team 3D got beat down in storylines is because Brother Ray and Brother Devon have a prior commitment in Japan in which they must to attend to, hence the injury angle. They won't be available at Tuesday's Impact tapings, however, they'll be taking on America's Most Wanted at Bound For Glory in two weeks.

Jushin Liger is booked to wrestle at Bound For Glory not to mention at the Impact tapings the following Tuesday. He'll be working with the younger X-Division wrestlers. He may be used again in the future, but it's not certain.

Kenzo Suzuki and Hiroko inquired for work in TNA last month, but TNA is not interested in using them. Test also inquired for work, but they said they have nothing for him now. A.J. Styles was said to have lost his cool and expressed his displeasure to management when he saw a bunch of former WWE stars backstage at the TNA Unbreakable pay-per-view last month.

The WWE 90-day, no-compete clauses of Shannon Moore, Jackie Gayda, Charlie Haas, Matt Morgan, Billy Kidman, Mark Jindrak and Dawn Marie all expired on Wednesday. Shannon Moore is pretty much a sure thing to join TNA. Jackie Gayda seems to be a lock as well as TNA wants more women. Charlie Haas and Matt Morgan are possible. Billy Kidman is possible, but less likely. TNA seems to have no interest whatsoever in Mark Jindrak though.

And last, but not least, Dixie Carter would welcome Dawn Marie with open arms if she so chooses to join TNA in the future. Dixie Carter was pregnant earlier this year and feels for her considering that she was fired while pregnant. Dawn's due later this year or early next year. It is not known if Dawn Marie still has her heart in wrestling. If she ever joins TNA, the wait will be a long time.
why would styles get upset about that? they don't work for the wwe anymore their ticket money should be as good as anyone elses right? btw was the "fired while pregnant line refer to dawn marie being fired or ms carter? i'm unclear on that :marv:

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWTorch.com

Spike TV and UFC went head-to-head with the second hour of RAW last night with a "Ultimate Fighter" (best of UFC) show. It is possible that Spike would consider moving TNA's program sooner than later. Spike currently airs CSI going up head-to-head with the first hour of RAW. We'll keep you posted.


Great news for TNA today as the rating this week rose nearly 5% from last week!

TNA scored a .82 rating which translates to about 740,000 households and 994,000 viewers.

The ratings also spiked for the 18 to 49 demographic.

[TheVileOne]

Ms. Carter's the majority owner of TNA. It was referring to Dawn Marie.

Good to hear that the rating was up, if only slightly.

[LastSunrise1981]

Seems TNA is getting more popular everyday, I definitely believe they can keep this up and prove why they're a better alternative to WWE.

WWE is still sucking with TNA and doesn't appear to be getting better anytime soon, so I'll keep tuning in to TNA for a for the rest of my life and continue spreading the word. :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Hey i didn't realise Vince worked for TNA

[TheVileOne]

I just hope these early shows for Impact can get consistent ratings and eventually get higher over time.

Bound For Glory is really shaping up to be THE wrestling PPV event of the year. Though I think TNA needs to announce some more matches already.

[Eric Draven]

Hey i didn't realise Vince worked for TNA

Vince Russo? yeah. He started there shortly after his brief return to the WWE didn't work out.

And it wasn't that great. It was just Russo doing a lot of the crap he did in WCW....

[3dman27]

Ms. Carter's the majority owner of TNA. It was referring to Dawn Marie.

Good to hear that the rating was up, if only slightly.thanks

[Hunter Rider]

Vince Russo? yeah. He started there shortly after his brief return to the WWE didn't work out.

And it wasn't that great. It was just Russo doing a lot of the crap he did in WCW....

lol no i was being sarcastic about the way Vince Mac is booking stuff,i was implying he is working for TNA and destroying WWE from within:o :D

[Eklypze]

anyone know where i can find a clip of the canadian destroyer???

[3dman27]

try the tna website

[Eklypze]

they dont have one up there if anyone wouldnt mind can i get a link?

[Hunter Rider]

they dont have one up there if anyone wouldnt mind can i get a link?

If you go to video archives it is shown in one of the PPV promos

[Eklypze]

thanx

[Eklypze]

which promo is it shown in?

[Hunter Rider]

Samoa Joe will have a new entrance at the Bound for Glory PPV.

Bill Banks stated in his most recent Bankshot column that Jushin Thunder Liger may not be able to make the October 25th Impact tapings following the Bound For Glory PPV. Banks also takes several shots at WWE. To read the column, visit TNAWrestling.com

The following Matches have been added to next Sundays Bound For Glory PPV:

- The Alpha Male Monty Brown vs. Lance Hoyt
- Four-Way X Match: Sonjay Dutt vs. Austin Aries vs. Alex Shelley vs. Roderick Strong
- NWA World Heavyweight Title Match:
Champion Jeff Jarrett vs. Kevin Nash ? Special Referee Tito Ortiz
- X Division Championship Ironman Match:
Champion "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles vs. "The Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels
- The Return Of "The Ultimate X" For The #1 Contender To The X Championship:
Matt Bentley vs. Petey Williams vs. Chris Sabin
- International Showdown:
"The Samoan Submission Machine" Samoa Joe vs. Jushin "Thunder" Liger
- Monster's Ball 2:
"The Monster" Abyss vs. "The Man Beast" Rhino vs. "The Homicidal, Genocidal, Suicidal" Sabu vs. "The Charismatic Enigma" Jeff Hardy
- The Diamonds In The Rough vs. Sonny Siaki, Apolo and Shark Boy

[punishermax]

That PPV will be well worth the $30

[TheVileOne]

Bound For Glory card just got a whole hell of a lot better with that X Division 4 way. Its going to outdo that garbage one at No Mercy this year for sure.

I was pleased with this week's Impact, though disappointed with the finish of the Iron man challenge.

I'm disappointed as hell Liger won't be on Impact to wrestle after the PPV :( .

[TheVileOne]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203865

Interesting news folks. It seems that TNA Wrestling is now the property of Marvel, and TNA wrestlers are Marvel characters to be featured on DVD, or so says blades_shades.

[Eric Draven]

That sounds a bit weird, plus has it been announced on any wrestling sites? :confused:

[TheVileOne]

No. Blades_shades posted this information because he thought TNA wrestlers were Marvel characters supposed to be on a new DVD or something.

[Hunter Rider]

- WrestleMag.com is reporting that TNA is in talks with Alexis of the 2005 WWE RAW Diva Search. The eighth place finisher developed some popularity with Internet fans after releasing the text of a comedic poem she planned to read during the competition. No contract offer has been made, but she was invited to sit ringside at the first of the Spike TV TNA Impact tapings.

- Bret Hart will be appearing at the launch party for The Fight Network this Friday. Jeff Jarrett, Samoa Joe and Sabu will also be in attendance.

[TheVileOne]

I've been wondering. What is the Fight Network? Something to show stuff like boxing and martial arts?

[TheVileOne]

GREAT NEWS!

TNA is going to get its first ever TWO HOUR special next month. Not only that, it will be on PRIME TIME! This is huge baby. UFC is pre-empting the 11/5th edition of Impact. So they are going to have a two hour TNA wrestling special on 11/3! And it will be on from 9-11 pm!

The way Impact is right now, the Saturday episode and Monday replays have been getting a consistent combined Nielson rating of about 1.3 . Hopefully the special will make that much or even more.

I think the best news about this is that Spike TV has faith in TNA and they are happy with the results so far. That much is good.l

[3dman27]

I've been wondering. What is the Fight Network? Something to show stuff like boxing and martial arts?
i hope it is i like to watch the fights :marv:

[punishermax]

GREAT NEWS!

TNA is going to get its first ever TWO HOUR special next month. Not only that, it will be on PRIME TIME! This is huge baby. UFC is pre-empting the 11/5th edition of Impact. So they are going to have a two hour TNA wrestling special on 11/3! And it will be on from 9-11 pm!

The way Impact is right now, the Saturday episode and Monday replays have been getting a consistent combined Nielson rating of about 1.3 . Hopefully the special will make that much or even more.

I think the best news about this is that Spike TV has faith in TNA and they are happy with the results so far. That much is good.l

Thats awesome. :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Preview For Saturday's "iMPACT!" On SpikeTV!Impact Preview October 20th, 2005 00:09SATURDAY ON “iMPACT!” ON SPIKE TV AT 11PM ET
One night before “Bound For Glory” next Sunday on PPV!

The intensity will reach a whole new level Saturday night on “iMPACT!” on Spike TV at 11PM ET, less than 24 hours before the live “Bound For Glory” Pay-Per-View on Sunday night! All of your favorite TNA stars will be a part of the final “iMPACT!” before “Bound For Glory” which will be the biggest weekend in TNA Wrestling history. The huge lineup for Saturday’s “iMPACT!” is as follows:

6-MAN MAYHEM MAIN EVENT
NWA World Heavyweight Champion Jeff Jarrett, “The Alpha Male” Monty Brown and “The Monster” Abyss vs. X Division Champion “The Phenomenal” AJ Styles, “The Charismatic Enigma” Jeff Hardy and Lance Hoyt

Some of the biggest stars in TNA Wrestling will compete in six-man one match this Saturday night on “iMPACT!” just hours before the Pay-Per-View! In addition, all three TNA champions will be in action on the final “iMPACT!” before “Bound For Glory” as Championship Committee member Larry Zbyszko has ordered the following bout:

THE FIRST TNA TITLE MATCH ON SPIKETV – NWA WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS THE NATURALS vs. AMERICA’S MOST WANTED

Longtime enemies will collide again this Saturday night, marking the first TNA title defense on SpikeTV, as NWA World Tag Team Champions The Naturals defend the gold against America’s Most Wanted! Can The Naturals win another battle in the ongoing war between the two teams, or will AMW walk into “Bound For Glory” as the new champions? Tune in and find out!

THE SPIKETV DEBUT OF “THE SAMOAN SUBMISSION MACHINE” SAMOA JOE vs. “PRIMETIME” ELIX SKIPPER

The unstoppable “Samoan Submission Machine” Samoa Joe makes his “iMPACT!” debut on SpikeTV on Saturday night, taking on TNA X Division star and Diamonds In The Rough member “Primetime” Elix Skipper! With his match against Jushin “Thunder” Liger less than 24 hours later at the Pay-Per-View, can Samoa Joe successfully make it past “Primetime”?

3LIVE KRU’S RON “THE TRUTH” KILLINGS vs. TEAM CANADA’S ENFORCER BOBBY ROODE

The war between The 3Live Kru and Team Canada continues to heat up on “iMPACT!” on Saturday night, with 3LK’s Ron “The Truth” Killings facing the Team Canada enforcer Bobby Roode! The question is, will the members of their respective groups get involved in the bout? Will Team Canada’s tactics come into play, or will the 3LK win this battle? Tune in and see!

ALL THIS AND MUCH MORE ON SATURDAY’S “iMPACT!” ON SPIKETV AT 11 PM ET – JUST HOURS BEFORE SUNDAY’S “BOUND FOR GLORY”!

QUICK PREVIEW FOR SATURDAY’S IMPACT:
Jeff Jarrett, Monty Brown and Abyss vs. AJ Styles, Jeff Hardy and Lance Hoyt
Tag Team Title Match: The Naturals vs. America’s Most Wanted
Samoa Joe vs. “Primetime” Elix Skipper
Ron “The Truth” Killings vs. Bobby Roode
Plus, more news on Sunday’s “Bound For Glory”


I wish i could see this stuff,Eurosport arent showing TNA at all now:mad:

[3dman27]

at least tna's pre ppv shows aren't virtual infomercials for said ppv that turns me off[the" infomercial"part i mean}

[Hunter Rider]

Source: Pro Wrestling Torch

A key man that TNA acquired over the last year was Frank Dickerson. Frank became the CEO of the company earlier this year and comes from a real-world business background. Dixier Carter, owner of TNA, comes from a marketing background. It's interesting to note that Frank was a major key in negotiations with Spike TV and the NWA. He is also known to be a straight up guy backstage and many of the guys feel they can approach him and not have to hold anything back for fear that he may go say something.

As it stands right now, Brock Lesnar will not be in TNA despite the strong relationship the company has with New Japan. A key to WWE's settlement case is that Lesnar won't be able to work in the United States until his non-complete clause with WWE expires in 2010. Lesnar will work New Japan's Jan. 4, 2006 Tokyo Dome show but will not tour with them until that point. Several TNA names are expected to work the January show as well. Names being thrown around are AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels and Samoa Joe. Of course, New Japan shocked just about everyone when they brought Lesnar to the company so who knows what could come out of the settlement case, if anything.

For those wondering, New Japan and TNA have a talent deal where they 'share' with each other.

[TheVileOne]

Yeah I knew Lesnar wasn't going to end up in TNA.

So Lesnar's stuck in Japan for the time being or until he and WWE bury the hatchet and they bring him back.

[3dman27]

now that gail kin is in tna how do you think a traci-gail feud would go?

[TheVileOne]

I guess. I think they should get some more female wrestlers in there before they start doing that.

Also at the BOUND FOR GLORY FANFEST today, AJ Styles responded to the comments Batista made about Styles and TNA:

What, do I need to get bigger? Do I need to use more steroids?

I can do a powerbomb too...

OOH! MEGA-BURN BY AJ!

[Hunter Rider]

^^^^^Nice:D :D :D

[Twitch]

Holy **** I struck gold

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4180497&cat=46183&type=2&dept=4096&path=0%3A4096%3A41938%3A45168%3A46183

3 pay-per-views for only 20 bucks :up:

AMW vs. triple X steel cage match at Turning point :eek::up:

[Twitch]

Should I go to to Best Buy instead and pick up one of the "best of" DVDs

I need insights

[Twitch]

Meh, My bestbuy and Walmart suck. Any way I orderd AJ's DVD off Amazon

:up:

[LastSunrise1981]

I guess. I think they should get some more female wrestlers in there before they start doing that.

Also at the BOUND FOR GLORY FANFEST today, AJ Styles responded to the comments Batista made about Styles and TNA:



OOH! MEGA-BURN BY AJ!

Hahaha AJ said that?! That's awesome. Take that Batista, Vince, and the entire WWE(except for Benoit, Shelton, Booker, Kane, Edge, Angle, HBK, Carlito, Cena, and Helms)for good measure.

What gets me is why did Batista run his mouth? Is TNA really starting to get under their skin that much? Being that they provide actual wrestling, less talking, and provide an overall better product to what the WWE releases?

http://www.superaction.co.kr/TNA/wrestler_profileimg/AJ%20Styles_main.jpg

Go AJ! :up:

[TheVileOne]

Batista says crap like that from time to time. Earlier this year he was talking about Smackdown and how bad and unwatchable it is. Though in that case he was right. I'm just saying though, he likes to run his mouth.

FYI, Kevin Nash had to go to the hospital tonight and is not medically cleared to wrestle.

The world title will still be on the line, but Jarrett won't be facing Nash apparently. My guess is that Raven will be the shotgun replacement.

[Hunter Rider]

Batista says crap like that from time to time. Earlier this year he was talking about Smackdown and how bad and unwatchable it is. Though in that case he was right. I'm just saying though, he likes to run his mouth.

FYI, Kevin Nash had to go to the hospital tonight and is not medically cleared to wrestle.

The world title will still be on the line, but Jarrett won't be facing Nash apparently. My guess is that Raven will be the shotgun replacement.

To bad for Nash hope he's ok but it is good news for the card IMO

[Hunter Rider]

Hahaha AJ said that?! That's awesome. Take that Batista, Vince, and the entire WWE(except for Benoit, Shelton, Booker, Kane, Edge, Angle, HBK, Carlito, Cena, and Helms)for good measure.
:up:

I'd add Rey,Randy,RVD,CC and HHH to that list

[Eric Draven]

So.....basically "take that Batista, Vince, and a few jobbers"? :confused: :D :p

Seriously though, anything Batista says should not result in everybody else in the WWE getting bashed. Batista has been known to run his mouth a lot (just to get on the WWE's good side). And I doubt even half of the WWE roster does agree with what Batista had to say. Hell, I bet the majority of the WWE roster are buddy-buddy with the TNA roster.

[Hunter Rider]

So.....basically "take that Batista, Vince, and a few jobbers"? :confused: :D :p

Seriously though, anything Batista says should not result in everybody else in the WWE getting bashed. Batista has been known to run his mouth a lot (just to get on the WWE's good side). And I doubt even half of the WWE roster does agree with what Batista had to say. Hell, I bet the majority of the WWE roster are buddy-buddy with the TNA roster.

LOL im not anti or pro either,I like some of what TNA has to offer(if only Eurosport could get their head out their assess) but i also really enjoyed SD this week.

But Batista sucks ass,god he even messed up the RKO:confused:

[Twitch]

LOL im not anti or pro either,I like some of what TNA has to offer(if only Eurosport could get their head out their assess) but i also really enjoyed SD this week.

But Batista sucks ass,god he even messed up the RKO:confused:

Come to America, and crash in my house :o

[Sabretooth]

So.....basically "take that Batista, Vince, and a few jobbers"? :confused: :D :p

Seriously though, anything Batista says should not result in everybody else in the WWE getting bashed. Batista has been known to run his mouth a lot (just to get on the WWE's good side). And I doubt even half of the WWE roster does agree with what Batista had to say. Hell, I bet the majority of the WWE roster are buddy-buddy with the TNA roster.
He dissed WWE too.He thinks the only people who work hard are himself,HHH,and Taker.Which is just hilarious,because out of both the champs,at least Cena tries to do better.Batista is a lazy bastard.

[Hunter Rider]

Come to America, and crash in my house :o

:D :up:

He dissed WWE too.He thinks the only people who work hard are himself,HHH,and Taker.Which is just hilarious,because out of both the champs,at least Cena tries to do better.Batista is a lazy bastard.

I agree,Cena has improved noticeably since moving to RAW,Batista though as become a dull,repetetive,3 move lazy bore

[Sabretooth]

Batista hasn't been entertaining ever since he actually won the title.They should've worked on Orton instead of Batista.:(

[Hunter Rider]

Batista hasn't been entertaining ever since he actually won the title.They should've worked on Orton instead of Batista.:(

Yep once the Angle with HHH was over he lost his sparkle and it became obvious how poor he is,his timing which is basic for a pro wrestler even sucks

[Twitch]

Batista hasn't been entertaining ever since he actually won the title.They should've worked on Orton instead of Batista.:(

WWE screwed Orton, when they made him into a instant face. Instead they should've have him be cocky, and say **** Evoulution. Perfect transition to fuend with HHH. As a slow burn face he would've been a smash hit :up:

[Sabretooth]

Well,I forgive them for the Evolution thing.But Orton got a second chance,and that doesn't happen often.He could've gone over Undertaker and ended the biggest winning streak ever and become cemented as a Legend Killer. I mean,if HHH could put Batista over in HIAC,where HHH is undefeated,why can't Undertaker put Orton over at WM?He could still say he had 12 consecutive wins...

[Colossal Spoons]

I'll be the odd man out and say that I'm a die hard Batista fan. I admire Batista from a bodybuilding POV more than wrestling. He may not entertain people like The Rock or Austin but he does a good ass job getting the crowd hyped. If you ever see his ring entrance live, you'll know what I mean. True he doesn't have a huge move selection to choose from but jeez; he's a 40 year old man who's been eating 'roids since he could talk.

[Hunter Rider]

I'll be the odd man out and say that I'm a die hard Batista fan. I admire Batista from a bodybuilding POV more than wrestling. He may not entertain people like The Rock or Austin but he does a good ass job getting the crowd hyped. If you ever see his ring entrance live, you'll know what I mean. True he doesn't have a huge move selection to choose from but jeez; he's a 40 year old man who's been eating 'roids since he could talk.

I casn respect how you feel about his bodybuilding and yes his entrance is good but when a guy is in the companies top spot i expect more than a cool entrance,he gets the crowd hyped but he loses them as soon as the match starts
the bottom line i highligted is why he shouldn't be WWE champ

[Colossal Spoons]

Ok, then why do people support Stone Cold so much? He has even less moves than Batista does and his promos are beyond boring but yet he was a top guy in the WWE for years.

EDIT- I mentioned Austin before as an entertainer because at one point, I did find Austin to be entertaining. However, the rebel thing wore off quickly and the "What?" schtick makes me wanna turn the TV off.

[Sabretooth]

Ok, then why do people support Stone Cold so much? He has even less moves than Batista does and his promos are beyond boring but yet he was a top guy in the WWE for years.

EDIT- I mentioned Austin before as an entertainer because at one point, I did find Austin to be entertaining. However, the rebel thing wore off quickly and the "What?" schtick makes me wanna turn the TV off.
Because he's the one who so many wrestlers copy.He is the original badass,he is what every guy wants to be,to just have beers,kick your boss' ass,and do anything and still look cool.

[Colossal Spoons]

No, Piper was the original badass. Nothing produced by the WWE in the last decade has been "original".

[Hunter Rider]

Ok, then why do people support Stone Cold so much? He has even less moves than Batista does and his promos are beyond boring but yet he was a top guy in the WWE for years.

EDIT- I mentioned Austin before as an entertainer because at one point, I did find Austin to be entertaining. However, the rebel thing wore off quickly and the "What?" schtick makes me wanan turn the TV off.

Well i'm maybe not the best person to ask as im not a huge Austin fan but the guy has a lot of charisma and the gimmick that he was an everyman really connected with the crowd,also his mic work is in most ppl's opinion solid outside the "What?" crap plus he was a more capable wrestler than Batista and very explosive when he got on a roll

2 major things made Austin a star though

1)The angle with Mcmahon

2)The Stone Cold Stunner

[Sabretooth]

No, Piper was the original badass. Nothing produced by the WWE in the last decade has been "original".
But Stone Cold is more famous.Go on the street and ask anyone to name a few wrestlers,unless they were an 80's junkie,they'll probably say somebody like Stone COld.

[Hunter Rider]

But Stone Cold is more famous.Go on the street and ask anyone to name a few wrestlers,unless they were an 80's junkie,they'll probably say somebody like Stone COld.

The Rock and Hogan:( would be the 2 best known i think

[Colossal Spoons]

Batista's pretty new though. Ask those same people if they remember "Stunning Steve".

And if Batista's a bore then Hogan has got to be a sedative. His awesome past aside, it pains me to watch him wrestle today. Just look at his finisher in 2005.

[Sabretooth]

The Rock and Hogan:( would be the 2 best known i think
The way I see it,these are the most famous:
Hogan
Rock
HHH
Stone Cold

[Colossal Spoons]

^^ No Taker?

[Sabretooth]

Batista's pretty new though. Ask those same people if they remember "Stunning Steve".

And if Batista's a bore then Hogan has got to be a sedative. His awesome past aside, it pains me to watch him wrestle today. Just look at his finisher in 2005.
I didn't say anything about Batista and being famous.I was comparing Piper and Stone Cold.:o

[Sabretooth]

^^ No Taker?
I don't know many non wrestling fans who know Taker.Outside of the wrestling world,he's really not that famous.

[Colossal Spoons]

Ah ok, I misread. Austin is way more popular than Piper but Piper's rebel gimmick was a precursor for Austins.

[Sabretooth]

Ah ok, I misread. Austin is way more popular than Piper but Piper's rebel gimmick was a precursor for Austins.
Still,did Piper stun Vince?Or drive a beer truck to the ring and spray the McMahons with it?

[Hunter Rider]

Batista's pretty new though. Ask those same people if they remember "Stunning Steve".

And if Batista's a bore then Hogan has got to be a sedative. His awesome past aside, it pains me to watch him wrestle today. Just look at his finisher in 2005.

You'll get no argument from me on Hogan if i never see him in the ring again it will be to soon

[Colossal Spoons]

Still,did Piper stun Vince?Or drive a beer truck to the ring and spray the McMahons with it?

Of course not, that wasn't "cool" in the 80s. Austin is a sort of "evolved" Piper.

[Hunter Rider]

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Popular indy wrestler Homicide continues to have lots of interest shown from TNA in bringing him in. With TNA showing interest in Homicide, not surprisingly WWE has suddenly begun to show interest in him as well. We could see another situation like we saw with CM Punk and Samoa Joe a while back between TNA and WWE. With TNA's pros being that he could work their light schedule and continue to work his indy dates, and WWE's pros being that he is with the biggest wrestling company in North America and would get a bigger paycheck. The major thing working against WWE is their heavy travel schedule and how most of their new talent is treated, for example CM Punk and Frankie Kazarian who had a short-lived stint with the company. However with all of his indy and TNA paychecks combined, and WWE's recent reputation for low paydays, he just might end up making more outside of WWE.

Homicide also apparently has had some interest shown by the New York City police department. He is currently under investigation by the NYPD, and isn't allowed to leave the state, meaning he won't be working any WWE, TNA, or indy shows outside of New York for the time being. Homicide recently stated that the investigation is a very serious matter, but aside from that, there aren't any details on it.

[NDX]

I would prefer to see "The Notorious 187" take a role in TNA. I feel WWE would really subdue his wrestling style, and probably change his name. TNA would be a better fit, once all with the NYPD is done with.

[3dman27]

the notorious 187?

[punishermax]

187 is a police code for a homicide.

[Hunter Rider]

from WZThe likely opponents for Jeff Jarrett are Rhino and Raven. Raven is less likely as he's not booked to wrestle on the show.

Tito Ortiz will still be the special referee of the main event.

[Jason Blood]

I'm surprised that Liger lost, happy that the "Diamonds In the Rough" got a win, and pissed that Hoyt can't get an F'n win

[NDX]

Wow. They are really pushing Joe to be one of their top talents. Hopefully he will get the X-Division title in the near future.

And definately glad to finally see Diamond and his group get the duke.

[TheVileOne]

I was disappointed with the length of Joe/Liger.

The 4 way X division match was FANTASTIC. Better on every level to the crappy 4 way at No Mercy earlier this month.

Ultimate X is on now :) .

[BlackSymbiote]

RHINO! RHINO! RHINO! GORE! GORE! GORE!! NWA World Heavyweight Champion!

What a PPV! Some of the matches were too short, or the endings were kinda meh, but AJ Daniels and the main event were awesome!

You know, I really want to see Joe VS Abyss now.

[TheVileOne]

Weird PPV. Some great matches, but not as great as I was hoping it would be.

[NDX]

Wasn't this supposed to be their WrestleMania?

[TheVileOne]

Yeah it certainly wasn't that. I almost feel ripped off after putting so much faith into TNA. I'm not going to stop watching, but as a fan I feel almost embarrassed. Specifically the main event and the botching in the Ultimate X match.

[NDX]

What I read was really convoluted. Help a guy out, what happened?

[Eric Draven]

In the Ultimate X match, didn't the X fall off a couple of times? I remember that happening in the first UX match, but I thought they would've fixed this by now....:confused:

[TheVileOne]

What I read was really convoluted. Help a guy out, what happened?

Nash was hospitalized and couldn't make the main event.

Instead they made a 10 man gauntlet match where the winner would face Jarrett for the title. Rhino won the gauntlet match and then beat Jarrett to win the title.

And Draven, you are right, it did happen in the first Ultimate X match. However, at least it still had a great finish. No one won the match by the title belt dropping into their hands like the X did tonight.

After 8 ultimate X matches, this is the second time something like this happened.

[Eric Draven]

I guess that's what happens when TNA tries to rely on Nash to be their headliner on their biggest PPV of the year. Seriously, after all the stuff that's happened to Nash by now, you'd think they had learned their lesson......

[Colossal Spoons]

Heh, he's more reliable than Hall.

[NDX]

Both Hall and Nash should be out of the business in general. They might have recognition, but their abilities to put on good matches is lacking. This event should have been headlined by Raven and Jarrett to begin with.

Having 8 Ultimage X matches, knowing that this has happened twice, and the ending to this one, they really need to rethink how they have this thing suspended from the ceiling. Just to prevent this from happening a third time.

[TheVileOne]

I guess that's what happens when TNA tries to rely on Nash to be their headliner on their biggest PPV of the year. Seriously, after all the stuff that's happened to Nash by now, you'd think they had learned their lesson......

This is exactly what I've been saying Draven. TNA paid the price for putting their faith in Nash. IT SCREWED OVER their biggest PPV of the year.

As for Ultimate X, they've had a good track record in NOT botching. This is the ONLY time this happened since the first one over TWO years ago.

[Eric Draven]

I've actually pondered that myself. Why did TNA decide to put Nash in the main event when they could've had Raven there instead? I mean even the WWE quickly realized that Nash couldn't get over in the main event anymore......

[WildChild]

I liked the fact that every one in Team Canada won,Good PPV For me.

[GLfan]

Lords of pain had this to say about the PPV:

- The original plan for "Bound For Glory" did not see Kevin Nash capturing the title from Jeff Jarrett. However, since Nash's injury forced TNA to modify the match, the company opted to give its fans a treat with a surprise victory for Rhino.

- A number of the matches were cut short to allow for the gauntlet match.

- As was witnessed on the PPV, the TNA crew was unable to successfully keep the X above the ring for the Ultimate X match; the second time it fell down, the match was ruled in favor of Petey Williams (who was scheduled to win anyway - just not in that fashion). All of the wrestlers were said to be upset about how the match ended up playing out.

[Hunter Rider]

So Rhino as NWA champ ? interesting
I wonder though what they will do with Daniels after his loss to AJ.
I'm guessing Samoa Joe is gonna feud with AJ next over the X division title
Too bad for the guys in the ultimate X match:(

BTW what was the final score in the iron man match ?

[3dman27]

187 is a police code for a homicide.
thanks

[BlackSymbiote]

BTW what was the final score in the iron man match ?

1-0 AJ.

He pinned Daniels after the Styles Clash with 2 seconds left. Personally, I think it would've been better if it wasn't an Iron Man.

I will admit that the ending to the Ultimate X match was kind of a let down, but it was pretty funny to see how Petey sold it.

What I find funny is that Rhino was the last ever ECW World Heavyweight Champion, and now he's NWA World Heavyweight Champion... I hope he doesn't go 2 for 2. :D

[TheVileOne]

I've actually pondered that myself. Why did TNA decide to put Nash in the main event when they could've had Raven there instead? I mean even the WWE quickly realized that Nash couldn't get over in the main event anymore......

Because they figured Nash's presence would've gotten them more buyrates. In the end it was all fruitless.

[cabel]

Has anyone been able to find the DVDs or have I been going to the wrong stores?

[TheVileOne]

cabel, I've found them at Best Buy, Target, Circuit City, FYE, and Suncoast.

I bought the AJ Styles DVD and the X Division DVD at Best Buy.

[Super Kal]

I really think they need a longer show. 60 minutes is just too short

[TheVileOne]

I really think they need a longer show. 60 minutes is just too short

They are having a PRIME TIME TWO HOUR special on November 3rd. On a Thursday instead of late Saturday night.

[Eric Draven]

I think the 60 minute format is good for TNA. That way, Impact is a weekly one-hour promo used to hype up their PPVs, which is how they get the majority of their revenue. Two hours means having to fill up more time in their shows, and as a result, their PPVs might not feel as special.

[TheVileOne]

Yeah but there are so many great wrestlers we don't get to see on Impact week to week that we should.

I really hope that the two hour special succeeds where Bound For Glory failed in many areas.

[Eric Draven]

More motivation to get the PPVs then to see these wrestlers ;)

[TheVileOne]

The one hour shows are the reason we aren't seeing Jerry Lynn right now :( .

[Eric Draven]

Wasn't that also because of Sean Waltman? :confused:

[TheVileOne]

Nope.

The other thing is that the matches are too short. We want LONGER matches for Impact. The wrestlers do too, they don't want to wrestle short, 3 minute matches. They really want to have good long matches to test themselves and give the crowd a good show.

[NDX]

That is the only aspect of TNA I don't like. Many of the matches are too short. Definately would prefer longer matches on a regular basis.

[TheVileOne]

I'm not asking for PPV quality matches or anything.

But when Impact was online the matches were somewhat longer than they are now.

[NDX]

I'm not asking for PPV quality matches or anything.

But when Impact was online the matches were somewhat longer than they are now.

I noticed that too when watching said matches on Xplosion (which aired iMPACT on television up till a week before the Spike TV deal). I think it was because thy had less advertisements to worry about outside of their own. But I could be wrong.

[TheVileOne]

That and I suppose since they were only on the internet, they were focused on pleasing the internet fan demographic.

A lot really kind of changed after they moved to Spike.

[NDX]

But it's not all bad, thankfully. Most of the matches, albeit short, are still high wenough quality to keep fans interested.

Plus with them being on Spike I see them doing much better segments, such as the Team 3D (man, that is hard to type) funeral. That segment happily brought tears to my eyes.

[3dman27]

I really think they need a longer show. 60 minutes is just too short
a 90 minute long IMPACT would THATwork :marv: :ghost:

[TheVileOne]

But it's not all bad, thankfully. Most of the matches, albeit short, are still high wenough quality to keep fans interested.

Plus with them being on Spike I see them doing much better segments, such as the Team 3D (man, that is hard to type) funeral. That segment happily brought tears to my eyes.

Well we got some better matches on the last show I think.

AJ/Strong and the X Triple Threat on the first show were good, albeit very short.

I hope the 2 hour special is the start of good things and hopefully steps toward a longer show.

[NDX]

I wouldn't mind seeing a 15 minute bout between Styles and Strong. On iMPACT, though. Give Strong 1 title shot. Styles, being champ, should be challenged by a plethora of opponents. Give shots to Aries, Sabin, Williams, Joe, Bentley, Lynn and Shelly. Hell, I wouldn't mind seeing a match between Styles and Hardy. Screw number one contenders. Just give us the good matches. Not that the matches they have already are bad, just, well, you get the idea.

[Eric Draven]

The result of the Prime-time special match between Jarrett and Rhino dumfounds me.......

[NDX]

The result of the Prime-time special match between Jarrett and Rhino dumfounds me.......
Agreed.

Reading that was quite depressing. The event read so positively. The matches read spectacularly. Then I read the results of the closing event.

But then again, the current situation was unexpected, so the results is not shocking and understandable.

By the way, killer avi Draven.

[TheVileOne]

The only reason Rhino won was to distract from how HORRENDOUS the Bound For Glory main event was. It was just a pointless win. Symbolic of...well you know.

[punishermax]

I have yet to see the main event, I watched up to the start of the Gauntlet and then I had to work, but I think TNA did the best that they could with the main event.

[3dman27]

The only reason Rhino won was to distract from how HORRENDOUS the Bound For Glory main event was. It was just a pointless win. Symbolic of...well you know.
not really symbolic of what?

[Hunter Rider]

Ugh Jarrett champ again:down I was hoping Daniels might take it off Rhino

[Keyser Soze]

It seems like they are setting up a feud between Christopher Daniels and Samoa Joe. Should be great, as they are two of the best wrestlers in the world today.

[TheVileOne]

not really symbolic of what?

Well Jarrett won the title again two days later and that sucks. As does TNA's main event scene.

[Sabretooth]

I like TNA and all,but they need to get their head out of Jarret's ass.They're main event scene is quickly becoming like Raw's.How many times has Jarrett won it now?

[Hunter Rider]

From WZ-

At the most recent TNA tapings, during a segment involving the Dudleys, now known as Team 3D, the crowd broke out in an ECW-chant. This could bring TNA some potential legal troubles if it's not edited out from the final show that will air on Spike TV. WWE has previously complained about the ECW chants, saying that ECW is their copyrighted phrase and cannot be used on competition's products. They threatened the Hardcore Homecoming ECW reunion promotion with this, and had them edit out all of the ECW chants throughout the entire show on their DVDs before shipping them out to retail stores. There were quite a few throughout the show, and needless to say, the lack of them really took away from the final product.

[Keyser Soze]

WWE are such rats when it comes to stuff like this. If its not whining about "ECW" chants, its banning TNA from calling its wrestlers "superstars", because they've trademarked the term.

The problem is that, since its debut on Spike TV, TNA has had a real buzz abour it, while WWE's product is fast becoming a joke. And rather than trying to improve the quality of their shows, WWE are trying to attack TNA through these petty legal issues.

[TheVileOne]

FYI, the last TNA Impact on Spike TV drew on 10/22 drew a .9 rating. So the ratings are going up even with the world series going on the same night.

Since moving from FSN to Spike TV, TNA wrestling viewing audience has more than DOUBLED.

[NDX]

That is definately a good sign. I hope they do get a regular 2 hour show, just not on Mondays. At least not yet.

[Sabretooth]

Eh,TNA should stick to competing to SD! for now.But in a few years,I could see them being quite a competitor for Raw.

[TheVileOne]

Agreed, putting them on Monday now is stupid. Its a long term goal, not something they want to do in a few weeks or months.

[Hunter Rider]

- There is speculation that Kevin Nash's wrestling career could be over.

- Although he was backstage, Raven was not used on either of Tuesday night's shows. As noted earlier, the original plan called for Raven to face Nash after Bound for Glory. With Nash out for the time being, plans were changed and Raven will continue his 'barred from the arena' storyline.

- As noted, Team 3-D was a late arrival Sunday night at the PPV and were jet lagged from a long trip back from All Japan Pro Wrestling.

- TNA's Public Relations/Marketing Coordinator E. Whitney Hinton is no longer with the company.

[NDX]

Injury Update Courtesy of WrestlingObserver.com

Chase Stevens of TNA is doing OK after a nasty head dive at the tapings this past week. Doctors have told him he'll be out 3-6 weeks but he may be back even sooner than that.

James Storm of TNA suffered some bruised ribs when he was powerbombed on the ringside railings at the pay-per-view this past Sunday.
____

Hopefully this won't hurt the tag division too much.

[TheVileOne]

Glad to hear both Storm and Stevens are ok. Just goes to show you that these guys are risk-takers and you can get hurt very easilyl.

[Twitch]

I really like how TNA is becoming the new ECW. :up:

BTW, last week did anyone see the long-haired dude with the Hippie shades?
I believe that guy is a famed fan from ECW. If my tapes show it.

[3dman27]

i read this morning on www.lordsofpain.net that sabu has signed a "legends contract with the wwe does this mean he wont be with tna anylonger?

[TheVileOne]

Not sure what that means for his TNA tenure. But I bet he can still have some capacity as a TNA worker. I don't think it breaks any no compete rule if just signs a LEGENDS contract.

[Savage]

I bet it has to do with WWE owning the ECW name. They probably plan on using him for a videogame or some other product. Maybe they're gonna put out ECW DVDs but they have him in it, since those are some of the best stuff and all. Wouldn't put it past em. After all, in the end the money goes to them.

[Hunter Rider]

From WZ

Following up on the Jerry Jarrett story from yesterday, it is clear that Jarrett is not happy with his situation with TNA. So much so that a few months back he had urged Panda to sell to Dave Nelson (supposed operator of the 3WA, that had an ESPN time slot and PPV set up that never came.) Jarrett feels strongly that since he started the company that he should have more of a role in its day to day operations. While Jerry has no power right now, his son Jeff retained some pull when the sale went through and is reportedly happy with the company and its direction.

TNA management is obviously upset at how Jerry Jarrett handled the situation, while the WWE was thrilled to post it on their website. By doing that they were able to make their "closest competition" look weak and second rate. At this point nothing is official, but after yesterday it looks as if Jerry Jarrett may be completely done with TNA.

[TheVileOne]

I think TNA can survive without Jerry Jarrett.

[Keyser Soze]

Just saw Christopher Daniels VS AJ Styles VS Samoa Joe from "Unbreakable". This has been a dream match of mine for a long time now, and it didn't disappoint. Match of the year, without a doubt.

[Savage]

Yeah, I got it downloaded. That was just sheer chaos. And that reversal of the Angel Wings came out of nowhere.

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, I got it downloaded. That was just sheer chaos. And that reversal of the Angel Wings came out of nowhere.

downloaded from where ??????:eek:

[Twitch]

downloaded from where ??????:eek:

Tell both of us right now :eek::mad:

[Sarge 2.0]

Caught an episode on TiVo, and I enjoyed it pretty well. :up:

Christopher Daniels is the ****.

[Twitch]

Caught an episode on TiVo, and I enjoyed it pretty well. :up:

Christopher Daniels is the ****.

You meant in a good way?

[Sarge 2.0]

Yeah. Watching him wrestle was very refreshing for me.

[TheVileOne]

Daniels is currently my favorite wrestler today.

I don't think there is any performer in the industry right now that has the complete package that he does. I dare anyone to name somebody.

[Hunter Rider]

Daniels is currently my favorite wrestler today.

I don't think there is any performer in the industry right now that has the complete package that he does. I dare anyone to name somebody.
Kurt angle,Eddie Guerro,HBK,Benoit

[punishermax]

Tell both of us right now :eek::mad:

Different Wrestling video sharing message boards. I know we're not supposed to advertise so I won't say but I could PM the links if you want.

[Hunter Rider]

Different Wrestling video sharing message boards. I know we're not supposed to advertise so I won't say but I could PM the links if you want.

PM me please:up:

[Twitch]

PM me please:up:

me too :cool:

[Savage]

Me too! :eek:...I got mine on limewire.:D How I got wrestlmania 21 and other matches too but it doesn't have a complete set of matches, just a mish mash of different ones. So yeah, this site would definately be of use to me.:D

[Savage]

Daniels is currently my favorite wrestler today.

I don't think there is any performer in the industry right now that has the complete package that he does. I dare anyone to name somebody.
:up::)

[Sarge 2.0]

Different Wrestling video sharing message boards. I know we're not supposed to advertise so I won't say but I could PM the links if you want.Hook a brutha up! :eek:

[Savage]

Kurt angle,Eddie Guerro,HBK,Benoit
But their gimmicks aren't as cool. :D

[Sarge 2.0]

Me too! :eek:...I got mine on limewire.:D How I got wrestlmania 21 and other matches too but it doesn't have a complete set of matches, just a mish mash of different ones. So yeah, this site would definately be of use to me.:DI downloaded the HBK/Undertaker Hell in a Cell match from from Bad Blood '97. The quality is pretty sucky, but the match still gives me chills.

[Keyser Soze]

Daniels is currently my favorite wrestler today.

I don't think there is any performer in the industry right now that has the complete package that he does. I dare anyone to name somebody.

I agree. He's also my favourite wrestler, and has been at least in my top 5 (usually at the top) for a long time now. I was talking about how great he is back when TNA had yet to take off, and I'm glad that he's now getting the recognition he deserves.

http://www.tnapics.com/albums/superstars/daniels/may25.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

But their gimmicks aren't as cool. :D

thats a matter of opinion;)

[TheVileOne]

Kurt angle,Eddie Guerro,HBK,Benoit

And a resounding NO to all of those.

Angle's great and all, but you don't see him doing all the things that Daniels does. He uses psychology better and he can move around in the ring much better. Daniels can wrestle a bigger variety of styles than Angle.

Eddie Guerrero, I don't think he's ever cut a promo as great as Daniels was right on the Impact right before Unbreakable. I can't even begin to count the number of MOTYC's Daniels has wrestled this year. Eddie's matches as of now are no where near as good as they used to be. His Batista matches are awfully lame.

Benoit, I think Benoit is great, he's one of my all time favorites. I think he does good promos, but again, his promos are no where near as great as Daniels. His matches this year have been no where near as good.

HBK? I like HBK, but I feel he is very overrated. I found his match with Hogan at Summerslam to be downright offensive. HBK doesn't job cleanly enough to other guys, which Daniels does.

[Keyser Soze]

Angle, in his prime, is the best in the business, even better than Daniels. But sadly, I think his time as a wrestler is winding down due to all his nagging injuries.

Eddie Guerrero is a very good performer, but I wouldn't count him amongst the elite. He can be pretty lazy in-ring a lot of the time. I was very disappointed when I went to see at a house-show. Half-assed the whole match.

Chris Benoit is a wrestling legend. He's still up there with the best of them. Daniels' only advantage over him is that he's a much better talker. but Daniels VS Benoit is my dream match.

HBK is good, but he's way past his prime. He can still deliver classic matches, but only when it's with someone like Benoit or Angle, who bring out the best in him.

[Hunter Rider]

And a resounding NO to all of those.

your opinion

Angle's great and all, but you don't see him doing all the things that Daniels does. He uses psychology better and he can move around in the ring much better. Daniels can wrestle a bigger variety of styles than Angle.

Angle is nigh on perfect in every match,his phsycology and technique easy outdo Daniels

Eddie Guerrero, I don't think he's ever cut a promo as great as Daniels was right on the Impact right before Unbreakable. I can't even begin to count the number of MOTYC's Daniels has wrestled this year. Eddie's matches as of now are no where near as good as they used to be. His Batista matches are awfully lame.

Eddie has cut some great promos in his time and damn sure is a better ring craftsman
It's easy having great matches when you wrestle In the X division,Daniels would suck just as much against a slug like Batista

Benoit, I think Benoit is great, he's one of my all time favorites. I think he does good promos, but again, his promos are no where near as great as Daniels. His matches this year have been no where near as good.

You keep going to matches,what the hell do you expect when he is forced to wrestle second rate guys ?
Benoit out does every wrestler in the game for intensity and technique


HBK? I like HBK, but I feel he is very overrated. I found his match with Hogan at Summerslam to be downright offensive. HBK doesn't job cleanly enough to other guys, which Daniels does.


Oh please,he dropped to Hogan clean for that retarded finish and he has more charisma,skill and mic skills than Daniels will ever have,he's not regarded by all the pros as the greatest in ring performer ever for no reason

course like all of your points thats just my opinion:)

[TheVileOne]

Angle, in his prime, is the best in the business, even better than Daniels. But sadly, I think his time as a wrestler is winding down due to all his nagging injuries.

Yeah but when was this though? I followed Angle's career from the beginning. And now after just being exposed to Daniels I feel like I'm watching and experiencing wrestling in a whole new way and on a whole different level when I see Daniels perform.


Eddie Guerrero is a very good performer, but I wouldn't count him amongst the elite. He can be pretty lazy in-ring a lot of the time. I was very disappointed when I went to see at a house-show. Half-assed the whole match.


He also half-assed his match with Benoit at One Night Stand. Which was pretty maddening. His world title match with Batista at No Mercy seemed to epitomize half-assed.


Chris Benoit is a wrestling legend. He's still up there with the best of them. Daniels' only advantage over him is that he's a much better talker. but Daniels VS Benoit is my dream match.

I think Benoit can talk well, just not as well as Daniels agreed. And that's part of why Benoit not as near the complete package that Daniels is.


HBK is good, but he's way past his prime. He can still deliver classic matches, but only when it's with someone like Benoit or Angle, who bring out the best in him.

Well to be fair he had a great match with the young star, Shelton Benjamin earlier this year. It was a great and surprising TV match. However, now I feel HBK still lacks things that Daniels has. Daniels is much more of a company man than HBK is.

BTW, here's the cover of Daniels DVD due out in January of next year:

http://www.talktna.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3

[Hunter Rider]

Well to be fair he had a great match with the young star, Shelton Benjamin earlier this year. It was a great and surprising TV match.





Shelton could be better than all mentioned on this page

[Sarge 2.0]

Yeah but when was this though? I followed Angle's career from the beginning. And now after just being exposed to Daniels I feel like I'm watching and experiencing wrestling in a whole new way and on a whole different level when I see Daniels perform.



He also half-assed his match with Benoit at One Night Stand. Which was pretty maddening. His world title match with Batista at No Mercy seemed to epitomize half-assed.



I think Benoit can talk well, just not as well as Daniels agreed. And that's part of why Benoit not as near the complete package that Daniels is.



Well to be fair he had a great match with the young star, Shelton Benjamin earlier this year. It was a great and surprising TV match. However, now I feel HBK still lacks things that Daniels has. Daniels is much more of a company man than HBK is.

BTW, here's the cover of Daniels DVD due out in January of next year:

http://www.talktna.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3Cover isn't showing up for me...do you have a link to the product?

[Hunter Rider]

Ya know speaking of whose the top guy,RVD could easily be if he wasn't held back IMO

[TheVileOne]

Cover isn't showing up for me...do you have a link to the product?
http://www.talktna.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6547

I think you might have to be a registered USER to see it.

Sorry guys.

[3dman27]

Daniels is currently my favorite wrestler today.

I don't think there is any performer in the industry right now that has the complete package that he does. I dare anyone to name somebody.
aj styles?