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BAH HUMBBUG!
05-20-2006, 04:37 PM
Hahaha, '1990's Finley' posterized Dampier; what he did was worse than Charles Barkley's usual rants about how Dampier is an underachiever.

:up:

Assassin
05-21-2006, 01:54 AM
Wtf Is Up With All The Fouls Not Being Called On The Cavs In Game 6? Its Like The Nba Is Forcing Lebron To Be The Next Champ.

Assassin
05-21-2006, 01:57 AM
i dont know who that is, does that make me a bad man?

lol like i said...

batman44
05-21-2006, 03:40 PM
So do you guys think the Cavs are gonna win today?

BAH HUMBBUG!
05-21-2006, 05:17 PM
Nope, especially since it's over. I think the Cavs were in the same position the Mavs are, if they didn't close it out in game 6, it's over for them. Which now it is.

Go Web Go!
05-21-2006, 09:54 PM
Had the Cavs practiced how to rebound between games 5 and 6 then they might have had the chance to steal the series. They didn't. They're going home. Miami/Detroit rematch is on.

Mister J
05-21-2006, 09:59 PM
Damn right, the rematch is on. I've been waiting for this. No abdominal injuries or deep thigh bruises this year and it's going down.

Go Heatians!

BAH HUMBBUG!
05-21-2006, 10:22 PM
Unfortunately I think the Heat were a better team last year than they are this year. As for the Pistons though, there appears to be more chinks in their armor than I would have thought going into the playoffs.

Either way this series is going to be great :up:

Go Web Go!
05-21-2006, 11:19 PM
Unfortunately I think the Heat were a better team last year than they are this year. As for the Pistons though, there appears to be more chinks in their armor than I would have thought going into the playoffs.

Either way this series is going to be great :up:

How was last years Heat team better than this years? They're in the same exact spot. :confused:

Jplaya2023
05-21-2006, 11:20 PM
How was last years Heat team better than this years? They're in the same exact spot. :confused:

Continuiety(sp)

Go Web Go!
05-21-2006, 11:21 PM
Continuiety(sp)

Explain?

LastSunrise1981
05-21-2006, 11:38 PM
I'm about 50/50 when it comes to the series with the Spurs tomorrow.

Part of me believes that Dallas can do it, although the other half feels they choked this series away. I also believe that $tern played a part in this and made sure to push it to 7 games by suspending Terry.

I REALLY want to believe we can do it. I just don't know if Dallas is mentally tough to do it, because when you have a team down 3-1, you need to finish them off and they showed they could beat a much weaker team. But yet, they struggle when facing the Sterns, I mean the Spurs.

Trainwreck2100
05-22-2006, 12:15 AM
Continuiety(sp)

Any team with Jason Williams and Antoine Walker has nothing related to that.

Mister J
05-22-2006, 12:28 AM
Explain? It's the same nonsense that people have been spouting all year long about the Heat since all the moves were made. "They only needed minor adjustments, not an entire new supporting cast". Blah, blah, blah.

I've thought this year's team is better from the start. A huge problem with the 2004-05 Heat was that there weren't any real ball handlers outisde of D.Wade. Damon Jones was adequate at best in bringing the ball upcourt and looking for Wade nearly as soon as he crossed halfcourt, if not before. They have Payton and Williams at the point now. Neither of which is going to panic in the face of a halfcourt trap. Additionally, both are capable of distributing the ball, running the offense and taking guys off the dribble.

The biggest loss was Eddie Jones, particularly for his defense. James Posey has been effective in that role and he can give you a little offense. Throw in Derek Anderson and I feel that the perimeter defense is as good as it was, if not better. Antwoine Walker is a offensive threat and that's been shown in recent playoff games. Williams and Payton have kicked in with some offensive punch as well.

The only thing that was going against this year's squad was whether or not the new players (especially Willaims and Walker) would be accepting of their roles. I haven't seen anything to the contrary. Jason Williams has been better than I thought and hasn't played selfishly or out of control. Walker has jacked up shots left and right and out of the offensive flow. Both have bought into the system and are doing what makes the team better.

This team is more versatile and effective. As far as any continuity is concerned, they've had a whole year and two playoff series to meld and I like what they're doing. They're at the same point as last year and I believe they're better equipped to go further than before.

Go Web Go!
05-22-2006, 01:02 AM
Any team with Jason Williams and Antoine Walker has nothing related to that.

None at all. That's why they've been sitting back for the last week waiting for an opponent in the East finals. :rolleyes:

BAH HUMBBUG!
05-22-2006, 01:24 AM
How was last years Heat team better than this years? They're in the same exact spot. :confused:

IMHO, I feel the team played together better overall last year as a team and had better chemistry. Granted they got a lot more out of Alonzo this year than last year, I feel that may have been the only positive upgrade to the team since he only played 19 games with them roughly.

I think they have too many players on the team this year that are not good role players, Walker, Payton and Willaims. Payton alone would have been a decent addition, but let's face it, he's not the glove anymore. Plus they have no consistency from the outside, so no one to open up the floor as they did with Jones and Alston. They may have more talent but that does not make them a better team. IMHO.

The Incredible Hulk
05-22-2006, 08:19 AM
DEEEEEEETROIT BASKETBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bring on the Heat.... I agree they had a better team last season. They have too many frauds like Jason Williams and Antoine Walker who will wilt under the pressure.

Pistons in 5...........

Assassin
05-22-2006, 09:06 AM
wheres xwolverinex ?

lol

Poeman
05-22-2006, 02:04 PM
clippers and mavs will win tonight

i guarantee it

Equint77
05-22-2006, 02:08 PM
Why do the hell would Stern play favorites? especially with the Spurs??? One of the best boring championship teams of all time! Spurs dont get high tv ratings. San Antonio is a small market. Duncan is not marketable. There jerseys dont sell outside of San Antonio. No kids in the NBA want to play like the spurs. Ask an average person to name one of the spurs and chances they will most likely say Eva Longoria than any of the spurs:(

he's not looking at revenue when it comes to SA.. he's looking at image.... right now Stern wants wholesome basketball and the Spurs are the granddaddy of good citizens in the NBA.. you don't think Stern is still trying to erase the Detriot/Indiana riots a few years ago?

Having SA in the WCF and in the Finals is about a safe bet as you can get to fixing the league's image. Once he's felt he's gotten the NBA back on track, watch the Spurs go away.

BAH HUMBBUG!
05-22-2006, 02:08 PM
I guarantee the opposite :up:

Equint77
05-22-2006, 02:10 PM
barring something extremely ridiculous like Tim Duncan having a personality Spurs and Suns in the WCF.

NOFX
05-22-2006, 02:13 PM
clippers and mavs will win tonight

i guarantee it
Is it a Guran"sheed"?

NOFX
05-22-2006, 02:14 PM
he's not looking at revenue when it comes to SA.. he's looking at image.... right now Stern wants wholesome basketball and the Spurs are the granddaddy of good citizens in the NBA.. you don't think Stern is still trying to erase the Detriot/Indiana riots a few years ago?

Having SA in the WCF and in the Finals is about a safe bet as you can get to fixing the league's image. Once he's felt he's gotten the NBA back on track, watch the Spurs go away.
Spurs won 2 championships long before the Detroit/Indiana riots??? The NBA image was fine by back than!

Equint77
05-22-2006, 02:16 PM
Spurs won 2 championships long before the Detroit/Indiana riots??? The NBA image was fine by back than!

it just seems that way.... believe me Stern is trying to completely erase that day and he's playing it safe with SA. You wanted to know why he keeps giving them the pass.. it's to make sure nothing bad happens in the finals and a personality-less team is the sure bet.

NOFX
05-22-2006, 02:20 PM
it just seems that way.... believe me Stern is trying to completely erase that day and he's playing it safe with SA. You wanted to know why he keeps giving them the pass.. it's to make sure nothing bad happens in the finals and a personality-less team is the sure bet.
Even if the spurs make it to the finals they will most likely meet the heat or the pistons who are more of a personality team! So your theory is flawed!

Equint77
05-22-2006, 02:21 PM
Even if the spurs make it to the finals they will most likely meet the heat or the pistons who are more of a personality team! So your theory is flawed!

alright.

batman44
05-22-2006, 02:37 PM
Tonights game with Mavericks and Spurs is gonna be the game to see. If either team wants to win, they better play like they're in the finals; heck basically this is the Western Finals.

The Incredible Hulk
05-22-2006, 03:07 PM
I'd love to see the Mavs win, as I cant stand San Antonio and having to look at Eva Longoria and Tony Parker. But I know Dallas will once again take up their mantle of being playoff chokers and blow this 3-1 lead they had.

As for Clips/Suns, I cant say I care too much as neither of them will advance past the next round, but I like the Clippers Cinderella story...

reggiebar
05-22-2006, 03:15 PM
I'd love to see the Mavs win, as I cant stand San Antonio and having to look at Eva Longoria and Tony Parker. But I know Dallas will once again take up their mantle of being playoff chokers and blow this 3-1 lead they had.

...

The best thing about Dallas winning would be more shots of the first 3 rows of the arena at Mavs home games (the "talent" in the crowd at Mavs games is by far the best in the NBA)...

Go Web Go!
05-22-2006, 04:27 PM
DEEEEEEETROIT BASKETBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bring on the Heat.... I agree they had a better team last season. They have too many frauds like Jason Williams and Antoine Walker who will wilt under the pressure.

Pistons in 5...........

Look! A Pistons fan! Funny how you all disappeared when Detroit lost 3 straight to Cleveland. :)

IMHO, I feel the team played together better overall last year as a team and had better chemistry. Granted they got a lot more out of Alonzo this year than last year, I feel that may have been the only positive upgrade to the team since he only played 19 games with them roughly.

I think they have too many players on the team this year that are not good role players, Walker, Payton and Willaims. Payton alone would have been a decent addition, but let's face it, he's not the glove anymore. Plus they have no consistency from the outside, so no one to open up the floor as they did with Jones and Alston. They may have more talent but that does not make them a better team. IMHO.

They weren't going to go any further than the Eastern finals had they kept last years team intact. People look at this years team and think that it was overhauled. In a way it was, but people forget that Damon Jones left via free agency. Their back up PG Keyon Dooling left via free agency. The "experts" say that Miami isn't as good because they've played up and down all year. They say that Riley should have left the team intact. Why? In the big picture they traded an aging Eddie Jones for a starting PG in Jason Williams and a BETTER 3rd option in Antoine. Lets not forget James Posey, who started the entire regular season and has been doing a good job coming off the bench in the playoffs. 3 for 1. I'll take it. They're in the same exact spot they were in last year. You can't say the moves were a mistake until the season is over and done with. So far they seem to have worked.

BAH HUMBBUG!
05-22-2006, 04:33 PM
Look! A Pistons fan! Funny how you all disappeared when Detroit lost 3 straight to Cleveland. :)



They weren't going to go any further than the Eastern finals had they kept last years team intact. People look at this years team and think that it was overhauled. In a way it was, but people forget that Damon Jones left via free agency. Their back up PG Keyon Dooling left via free agency. The "experts" say that Miami isn't as good because they've played up and down all year. They say that Riley should have left the team intact. Why? In the big picture they traded an aging Eddie Jones for a starting PG in Jason Williams and a BETTER 3rd option in Antoine. Lets not forget James Posey, who started the entire regular season and has been doing a good job coming off the bench in the playoffs. 3 for 1. I'll take it. They're in the same exact spot they were in last year. You can't say the moves were a mistake until the season is over and done with. So far they seem to have worked.

Let's not forget that Wade was injured and not 100% last year in game 7.

Poeman
05-22-2006, 04:36 PM
heck im only really rooting for the dreadful franchise the LA clippers.
but i believe in dirk and brand to come thru in this moment of greatness.

Duncan will be off for the first 3 periods then in the 4th catch fire, but will be to late.
tony parker will end up with a broken face, and after the game we will hear about a supposed break up with eva longoria and parker
dirk from here on wil grow a beard and take it all the way till game 7 of the finals

oh i forgot avery johnson will do backflips on the court after the win

Go Web Go!
05-22-2006, 05:29 PM
Let's not forget that Wade was injured and not 100% last year in game 7.

Right. He sat out game 6 and wasn't at full strength in game 7. Hell, Shaq was still recovering from a thigh-bruise. Had they both been healthy one can argue that the result would have been different. Anyway, the fact of the matter this year is that there are no excuses for either team. Both teams are healthy. It's going to be a close series.

BAH HUMBBUG!
05-22-2006, 05:47 PM
Right. He sat out game 6 and wasn't at full strength in game 7. Hell, Shaq was still recovering from a thigh-bruise. Had they both been healthy one can argue that the result would have been different. Anyway, the fact of the matter this year is that there are no excuses for either team. Both teams are healthy. It's going to be a close series.

Agreed, before the playoffs had started I would have said that the Heat don't stand a chance and the Pistons were a lock for Eastern Champs. But seeing how surprisingly close the Cavs came. This series could go either way :up:

Go Web Go!
05-22-2006, 10:08 PM
Down go the Spurs. Good thing the Mavs recovered to win the game because that would have gone down as one of the biggest choke-jobs in recent memory - well, as far as single games are concerned. We WILL have a NEW NBA champion in 2006. David Stern will have a tough time sleeping tonight.

KALEL114
05-22-2006, 10:12 PM
Mavs Win! What a brilliant series!

Mister J
05-22-2006, 10:16 PM
I was wrong about Dallas, I can admit it. Granted, they haven't won anything, but I didn't give them a chance at beating the Spurs. It was looking like the same ol' impressive regular season/flop in the playoff Mavs, especially when they gave up that 20 point lead. However, they kept it together and pulled it out. Avery Johnson has done a hell of a job there. Nellie's boys would have folded.

That was a damn good series. :up:

batman44
05-22-2006, 10:21 PM
Wonderful, just wonderful. The Texas shoot out was everything I wanted to see in the playoffs; congrats to the Mavs. All that is left now is the Clippers and Suns.

The Incredible Hulk
05-22-2006, 10:22 PM
Look! A Pistons fan! Funny how you all disappeared when Detroit lost 3 straight to Cleveland. :)


son I came on here after Game 5 and told you they would still pull out the series. ;)

good to see the Spurs go down. I cant stand that team. Mavs tried as hard as they could to blow it, but prevailed.

LastSunrise1981
05-22-2006, 10:24 PM
WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Dallas! I think its safe to say that they win it all this year and finally silence the critics.

I definitely believe they're better than the Suns, Clips, Heat, and Pistons.

Now I wonder what mush mouth Charles has to say now? He's been riding SA's nuts since the beginning of their reign; what will he say now? Will he finally give them the respect they deserve?

WOHOO!!!!!!!!

Go Web Go!
05-22-2006, 10:36 PM
son I came on here after Game 5 and told you they would still pull out the series. ;)

good to see the Spurs go down. I cant stand that team. Mavs tried as hard as they could to blow it, but prevailed.

You got it, son. :up:

Poeman
05-22-2006, 10:39 PM
DAMN RIGHT

what i tell u all!!!
THE MAVS WOULD WIN, I GUARANTEED IT, not GUARAN"sheed" it

all that is left is the CLIPPERS WIN

someone tell me Avery Johnson did backflips after the win!!!

DOG LIPS
05-22-2006, 10:40 PM
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!


Hell yes!

GO MAVS!!!

KALEL114
05-22-2006, 10:43 PM
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!


Hell yes!

GO MAVS!!!
Thats right! I am still trying to catch my breathe from this entire series let alone this game.:up:

DOG LIPS
05-22-2006, 10:44 PM
Holy crap that game kicked ass. I was on the edge of my seat. Bye Spurs! Go Mavs!

KALEL114
05-22-2006, 10:45 PM
I won't be able to sleep at all tonight. My adrenaline is still pumpin.

LastSunrise1981
05-22-2006, 11:32 PM
I love watching Pop at a press conference. Maybe he'll finally retire and stop using his hot head tactics to get what he wants.

GO MAVS!

Spider-Nerd
05-23-2006, 12:25 AM
tim duncan is an absolute animal.

samurai black
05-23-2006, 12:26 AM
But Dirk is a force of nature

Go Web Go!
05-23-2006, 01:10 AM
tim duncan is an absolute animal.

Yeah, but he's on vacation. :down

NOFX
05-23-2006, 01:32 AM
Well this will be the last time ill be posting in this thread but I would like to say Congrats to Clippers! What a great year they had! No one expected the clippers to be even in the playoffs this year but yet they were one game away from the west finals! I hope they resign Cassel and lets see what this team can do now they some playoff experience! Please Keep The Clippers together Donald Sterling, so many fans hopes and dreams are in your hands! Congrats to the suns and good luck to them against the mavs in the next round because there going to need it, well peace out people until next season :) :up:

Spider-Nerd
05-23-2006, 12:37 PM
Yeah, but he's on vacation. :down
Goin fishin with ernie, charles, and kenny.:up:

The Incredible Hulk
05-23-2006, 12:57 PM
Bring on the Heap! errr Heat!

Ultimate_Superman
05-23-2006, 12:59 PM
I still say the Wizards would have won it all if not for the ref's bs calls. I mean they had the Cav's number each game and well lets face it this season they owned the Pistons. The Pistons and Piston fans should get on their knees and thank god they didn't have to play the Wizards.

Assassin
05-23-2006, 06:44 PM
???

if it wasnt for the BS calls on detroit the pistons would have won in 5 and the heat and pistons would be on game 4 right now. screw the wizards.

DarthRekal
05-23-2006, 07:19 PM
CMON ....:up: DALLAS - DETROIT FINALS!

DarthRekal
05-23-2006, 07:20 PM
I still say the Wizards would have won it all if not for the ref's bs calls. I mean they had the Cav's number each game and well lets face it this season they owned the Pistons. The Pistons and Piston fans should get on their knees and thank god they didn't have to play the Wizards.

thats like sayin the lakers woulda made round two had THEY drawn the nuggets not the clips...no what if's ISH happens..it is what it is......:(

Assassin
05-23-2006, 07:28 PM
dallas is easyer for the pistons than the spurs.

samurai black
05-23-2006, 08:41 PM
Bring on the Heap! errr Heat!

{In Kristen Dunst voice}The "Heap" have brought it!

Assassin
05-23-2006, 08:50 PM
games not over yet bub

samurai black
05-23-2006, 08:52 PM
yeah, wade going out is tough.

Assassin
05-23-2006, 08:55 PM
he's injured? ididnt start watching yet, just getting scores online

samurai black
05-23-2006, 08:56 PM
nope 4 fouls in the 3rd. sitting down and coincedently miami goes 1-8

Assassin
05-23-2006, 08:58 PM
haha

samurai black
05-23-2006, 09:01 PM
as long as heat hold the lead going into the 4th, shaq and wade will back in and clean up.

LastSunrise1981
05-23-2006, 09:02 PM
dallas is easyer for the pistons than the spurs.

Says who? They were pretty much even with Detroit in the regular season.

Dallas, in my opinion, is a much better and much deeper team than Detroit is. Obviously this is the fan side of me speaking, but Detroit has no one that can stop Nowitzki or Terry for that matter.

Nowitzki has flat out abused both Wallaces like red headed step-children.

If they do meet in the NBA finals, I expect the series to go 6 to 7 games with Dallas coming out on top.

Assassin
05-23-2006, 09:06 PM
dallas has 2 ppl, spurs are like detroit, we can stop 2 ppl, we cant stop a team like us..

samurai black
05-23-2006, 09:08 PM
Dallas, in my opinion, is a much better and much deeper team than Detroit is. Obviously this is the fan side of me speaking, but Detroit has no one that can stop Nowitzki or Terry for that matter.


As i miami heat fan, it hurts me to say that neither team from the east matches up well with the mavs, but the heat can hang better offensively.

batman44
05-23-2006, 09:41 PM
Miami wins game 1.

samurai black
05-23-2006, 09:44 PM
now all they have to do is take care of home and NBA Finals here we go!

Alpha and Omega
05-23-2006, 09:59 PM
Miami wins game 1.

:eek: Detroit seems Lethargic. What gives? It kind of looks like the regular season push might catch up w/ them. They seem tired.

samurai black
05-23-2006, 10:12 PM
Not to take anythign away from the heat's great performance, but they had alot more rest and the cavs did take the pistons to the edge. They'll probably come back in game 2 strong.

Go Web Go!
05-23-2006, 11:38 PM
Miami steals game 1 and homecourt like the Pistons did last year. How 'bout them apples? :mad:

Stringer
05-24-2006, 12:53 AM
3 more to go:up:

Mister J
05-24-2006, 01:06 AM
That supporting cast that allegedly didn't make the Heat better, looked pretty good tonight. ESPN flashed a stat that Miami outscored Detroit 20-7 with Shaq and Wade on the bench.

The boys need to come out strong in Game 2 as well. There shouldn't be any let up.

Stringer
05-24-2006, 01:11 AM
None at all. Its obvious the Pistons are still suffering from that tough series from the Cavs. The Heat need to take advantage and take both games in the D.

jusblaze21
05-24-2006, 01:18 AM
So Miami Won.:up:

NOFX
05-24-2006, 01:19 AM
None at all. Its obvious the Pistons are still suffering from that tough series from the Cavs. The Heat need to take advantage and take both games in the D.
If the heat want to win this series they have to win the next game!

Super_Ludacris
05-24-2006, 02:46 AM
So I go away on vacation for 2 weeks and this happens?

Detroit allowed Stern and Lebron to have a series
Nash ethered another LA team
and San Antonio is ghost


If I'm the Pistons I wouldnt sweat the game 1 loss. Fact of the matter is they were lethargic from a tough 7 game series and the Heat had a week off and it showed from the cold shooting and the lack of defense on Toine and Payton and the Jerry Springer extra.
Getting Wade in foul trouble was a plus and an interest way to contain him even though he still did is thing and they held Shaq in check and they came back STILL from a sluggish start and kept it close even at the end in the 4th. Fact of the matter is they still only won by 5 points.
But Detroit gotta watch out and keep that pressure on the team. I'm worried about Ben Wallace, he hasnt been playing too well in the last series and they gonna need him to readjust too. Sheed gotta check that ankle too.

It's Detroit, they know what they gotta do and make the adjustments accordingly

Super_Ludacris
05-24-2006, 02:47 AM
If the heat want to win this series they have to win the next game!


and the winner in the no **** sherlock category goes to...

Ultimate_Superman
05-24-2006, 08:04 AM
CMON ....:up: DALLAS - DETROIT FINALS!I really do not want Dallas in the finals because we'll be hearing about how after every game MC (aka the forgotten teammate) has sent a tape in on how unfair the ref's are or how they need to make this a rule.

Mister J
05-24-2006, 08:37 AM
How is it that the Heat need to win Game 2 in order to win the series? Seems to me it's the other way around. Miami clearly can't just give Wednesday's game away and they'd be well-served to snatch it too, but the possibility of 0-2 and going back to Miami for 3 & 4 isn't something Detroit wants any part of. Game 2 is must win for the Pistons.

The Heat held a lead of 8+ points from about 8 minutes left in the 4th. Detroit didn't get close until the garbage time points of easy lay-ups started and fouls started.

The Incredible Hulk
05-24-2006, 08:41 AM
the Pistons played like crap last night. That was probably the worst game I've seen from them the entire playoffs, and they still only lost by 5. You cant shoot 32% from the floor and expect to win. That needs to change tomorrow night. My prediction still stands

Mister J
05-24-2006, 08:47 AM
You Piston fans are certainly a spirited group.

samurai black
05-24-2006, 08:55 AM
How is it that the Heat need to win Game 2 in order to win the series? Seems to me it's the other way around. Miami clearly can't just give Wednesday's game away and they'd be well-served to snatch it too, but the possibility of 0-2 and going back to Miami for 3 & 4 isn't something Detroit wants any part of. Game 2 is must win for the Pistons.


Agreed. The Heat have taken the advantage of home court away from the pistons, game 2 is a must win for Detroit and now they have to win a game in miami, which with the way the supporting cast is playing, is going to be tough.

Ultimate_Superman
05-24-2006, 08:57 AM
the Pistons played like crap last night. That was probably the worst game I've seen from them the entire playoffs, and they still only lost by 5. You cant shoot 32% from the floor and expect to win. That needs to change tomorrow night. My prediction still standsWell they lost by only five because at that point Miami didn't even care they knew they had the game won they just made sure they kept the ball in their best shooters hand for when the Pistons came to foul. As I told before Hulk this is a series the Pistons will not win. For one they don't listen to their coach it is like the starters are their own coach and come over to him out of respect.

The Incredible Hulk
05-24-2006, 09:10 AM
As I told before Hulk this is a series the Pistons will not win. For one they don't listen to their coach it is like the starters are their own coach and come over to him out of respect.

you said the same thing about the Cavaliers series.....

Ultimate_Superman
05-24-2006, 09:12 AM
And the Cav's would have won it in Game 6 if they didn't mess things up in the end.

samurai black
05-24-2006, 09:14 AM
And the Cav's would have won it in Game 6 if they didn't mess things up in the end.

yeah, they pretty much gave that one away in the end.

Ultimate_Superman
05-24-2006, 09:20 AM
Yes they did they let the Pistons come back and beat them. Really the Pistons should have been at home.

Stringer
05-24-2006, 09:22 AM
Pistons fans are a cocky bunch. I guess you guys take on the personality of your team huh?:o

samurai black
05-24-2006, 09:52 AM
. I guess you guys take on the personality of your team huh?:o

I hope not. That would mean we'd have
2 guys who can actually post well
1 guy who could post well, but would always be banned for technicals
1 guy who doesn't do much posting, but can defend other's posts well
And a bunch of other guys who throw in a good psot once every so often

Mister J
05-24-2006, 09:56 AM
I hope not. That would mean we'd have
2 guys who can actually post well
1 guy who could post well, but would always be banned for technicals
1 guy who doesn't do much posting, but can defend other's posts well
And a bunch of other guys who throw in a good psot once every so often
All they'd all be lazy posters who think they can turn the tide of a discussion simply by showing up because they've done enough quality posting already.

The Incredible Hulk
05-24-2006, 09:58 AM
And the Cav's would have won it in Game 6 if they didn't mess things up in the end.

And IF the Queen had balls, she'd be King...... I'm sure the Pistons winning had nothing to do with them clamping down defensively in Games 6 and 7, and forcing the Cavs to win with someone else besides LeBron, which they were obviously incapable of doing.

The Incredible Hulk
05-24-2006, 10:01 AM
Pistons fans are a cocky bunch. I guess you guys take on the personality of your team huh?:o

Not cocky, confident. Well atleast not me. When you're the two time defending conference champs, and a Robert Horry prayer away from being the two time defending World Champs, you should be confident.

The Incredible Hulk
05-24-2006, 10:08 AM
I hope not. That would mean we'd have
2 guys who can actually post well
1 guy who could post well, but would always be banned for technicals
1 guy who doesn't do much posting, but can defend other's posts well
And a bunch of other guys who throw in a good psot once every so often

As opposed to the Heap, who would be:

1 guy who can do nothing but make the easy slam dunk posts
1 guy who's a generally good poster but acts as if he's been shot when he comes in contact with another poster, and
3 guys who dont ever make much of a difference, one being a real oldbie who's hung on to the forums MUCH too long.

samurai black
05-24-2006, 10:23 AM
As opposed to the Heap, who would be:

1 guy who can do nothing but make the easy slam dunk posts
1 guy who's a generally good poster but acts as if he's been shot when he comes in contact with another poster, and
3 guys who dont ever make much of a difference, one being a real oldbie who's hung on to the forums MUCH too long.

Actually that would be
1 legendary poster who has not 1, but THREE best post rings and is the most DOMINANT poster to ever in forum history.
1 poster who has come into his own as a superstar and takes cheat shots from less skilled posters, but has the will to comes back and do an excellent post
3 guys who used to start threads of their own, but now have made a name for themselves as great supporting posters.

Ghostvirus
05-24-2006, 10:35 AM
So let me get this straight. Detroit wins one Championship in the last 15 years.

Then the next year struggles with a already crippled Indiana team. Then goes to game seven with a team that had Shaq hurt in the beginning of the series, then lost wade in the end of the series.

Then! goes to game seven this year with a team that really only has one great player.

What in the blue hell does Detroit fans have to be cocky about? Detroit is a mediocre team simple as that. They may have won a crap load of games during the season, but so did seattle when Denver steam rolled them back in the 90's. This Miami series is going 5 maybe 4 games. This is not going to be as much of a series as some of you think it will be.

The Incredible Hulk
05-24-2006, 10:45 AM
yeah the Pistons are mediocre. :rolleyes: Two straight conference titles, and one world championship in the past two years, with a game 7 loss in the Finals last season. Not to mention they had the best record in the entire NBA this season, no one in the Eastern Conference was even really close.

If they're mediocre, what the hell does that make the Heap?

samurai black
05-24-2006, 11:11 AM
A team that would have beaten the pistons (who had larry brown) had not their emerging superstar guard gotten hurt. But enough about the past,right now, the "heap" are the team that has taken a 1-0 lead over the defending conf champs. And it doesn't matter if you had the best regular season record if it's hard for you to get the best of 7 against lebr...i mean the cavs.

The Incredible Hulk
05-24-2006, 11:23 AM
So the regular season doesnt matter, but what we did in the previous playoff round does? :confused:

As for last season, wouldve, couldve, shouldve... big deal, you had guys that got hurt for part of the series. Everybody has injuries, you have to play through them. Rasheed was hurt for a good portion of the last series, and the Pistons still pulled through, that's what good teams do, they dont make excuses.

Look, I've already said Miami was the better team last night, but even if the Pistons had won I wouldnt be on here talking crap about them being "mediocre"

samurai black
05-24-2006, 11:30 AM
The regular only matters for one reason, to get into the playoffs for a chance to win the NBA title. Your wins only matter to determine if you have homecourt throughout the playoffs. If their regular season record was a trophy, then the pistons have desecrated it by allowing the cavs and heat to win games in the palace. Homecourt means nothing if you can't protect it, so what's the point of winning all those games now?

LarryLegend
05-24-2006, 11:30 AM
Its only one game. Personally I'd rather see the Heat win but I think it will be a 6 or 7 game series.

Stringer
05-24-2006, 11:33 AM
I agree regardless of who wins I think this will go 6 or 7.

The Incredible Hulk
05-24-2006, 11:34 AM
The regular only matters for one reason, to get into the playoffs for a chance to win the NBA title. Your wins only matter to determine if you have homecourt throughout the playoffs. If their regular season record was a trophy, then the pistons have desecrated it by allowing the cavs and heat to win games in the palace. Homecourt means nothing if you can't protect it, so what's the point of winning all those games now?

they lost a game at home, big deal. They've already proven they can win on the road in the playoffs. I've never professed home court as being hugely important to the Pistons anyway. The Heat have lost at home to the Nets in this years playoffs, so it's not like the Pistons cant grab it right back.

Go Web Go!
05-24-2006, 12:30 PM
As for last season, wouldve, couldve, shouldve... big deal, you had guys that got hurt for part of the series. Everybody has injuries, you have to play through them. Rasheed was hurt for a good portion of the last series, and the Pistons still pulled through, that's what good teams do, they dont make excuses.


What's this then? :o

Not cocky, confident. Well atleast not me. When you're the two time defending conference champs, and a Robert Horry prayer away from being the two time defending World Champs, you should be confident.

Equint77
05-24-2006, 12:48 PM
yeah the Pistons are mediocre. :rolleyes: Two straight conference titles, and one world championship in the past two years, with a game 7 loss in the Finals last season. Not to mention they had the best record in the entire NBA this season, no one in the Eastern Conference was even really close.

If they're mediocre, what the hell does that make the Heap?

I don't think they're mediocre but they sure are struggling in the playoffs... 5 losses already. :confused:

DarthRekal
05-24-2006, 12:58 PM
wtf ...pistons!??????:mad:

The Incredible Hulk
05-24-2006, 12:59 PM
What's this then? :o

how is saying that Robert Horry made a prayer an "excuse?" :confused: It was used to emphasize how close we were to winning a 2nd straight title. That wasnt the reason why they lost, but they couldve clinched it in Game 6 if not for that shot. The Pistons blew game 7 on their own

Go Web Go!
05-24-2006, 01:17 PM
how is saying that Robert Horry made a prayer an "excuse?" :confused: It was used to emphasize how close we were to winning a 2nd straight title. That wasnt the reason why they lost, but they couldve clinched it in Game 6 if not for that shot. The Pistons blew game 7 on their own

Well if you want to use that to measure how close the Pistons were to winning their second consecutive title then we can go back to Shaq and Wade's injuries and how they affected the outcome of the East finals. We can go back and forth all day. What happened last season doesn't matter anymore. Like you said: Would've, could've, should've...didn't.

The Incredible Hulk
05-24-2006, 02:55 PM
No you're still missing the point. me bringing up Horry was to say how close we were but we got beat. Horry even said he put up a prayer and it was answered. I didnt say that was why we got beat, just that we were close. obviously there were cumuative factors.

You talking about injuries, and saying "if Shaq and Wade were 100% we wouldve won," is a direct excuse for losing the games themselves. Not to mention it's an assumption.

DarthRekal
05-24-2006, 02:57 PM
your boys better get ther act straight hulk....!:mad: :up:

Soundwave
05-24-2006, 04:30 PM
Mavs are gonna win the championship anyways so arguing over who's gonna win the east conference is pointless. haha.

To those of you who are saying the regular season isn't important just ask the Phoenix Suns about those two Game 7 victories on their home court which would not have been possible had they not had the kind of regular season that they did. I will admit that good teams will find a way to win on the road(as my Mavs have shown) but don't underestimate the importance of having home court advantage. Maybe the Pistons would have won last year if Game 7 were at the Palace instead of in San Antonio. And to call Detroit mediocre is a bit harsh. They haven't played their best in this year's playoffs but they are more than capable of making it to the Finals again. I wouldn't be so quick to write them off after 1 game.

DarthRekal
05-24-2006, 05:01 PM
Mavs are gonna win the championship anyways so arguing over who's gonna win the east conference is pointless. haha.

To those of you who are saying the regular season isn't important just ask the Phoenix Suns about those two Game 7 victories on their home court which would not have been possible had they not had the kind of regular season that they did. I will admit that good teams will find a way to win on the road(as my Mavs have shown) but don't underestimate the importance of having home court advantage. Maybe the Pistons would have won last year if Game 7 were at the Palace instead of in San Antonio. And to call Detroit mediocre is a bit harsh. They haven't played their best in this year's playoffs but they are more than capable of making it to the Finals again. I wouldn't be so quick to write them off after 1 game.

i hope your right..i just dont want the heat to win

rdh007
05-24-2006, 05:22 PM
The Pistons are killing me. Absolutely killing me.

The word on the street is that The 'Fro is gonna ask for 6yrs./$100 million. Just the word on the street.

Go Web Go!
05-24-2006, 06:45 PM
The Pistons are killing me. Absolutely killing me.

The word on the street is that The 'Fro is gonna ask for 6yrs./$100 million. Just the word on the street.

I'd let him walk. I'd give him half of that seeing how he only plays on the defensive end.

rdh007
05-24-2006, 07:12 PM
I agree. I'd offer him 4 years/35 million.

LastSunrise1981
05-24-2006, 07:17 PM
The Pistons are killing me. Absolutely killing me.

The word on the street is that The 'Fro is gonna ask for 6yrs./$100 million. Just the word on the street.

It's just one game. The Pistons will come out a lot more physical, pissed off, and will definitely be ready to play for sure when Game 2 arrives.

The Heat will not beat Detroit in this series. I know the Heat is supposedly a different team, however, I believe Detroit really is going to make them look pretty bad in this series.

I expect the Mavs(my favorite team) to beat the Suns in 6 or 7 games.

It'll be Dallas/Detroit for the championship and I say Dallas in 5 or 6.

Victor Von Doom
05-24-2006, 08:05 PM
I wan't dallas tow win so that the media will give us some credit and some props for once.

samurai black
05-24-2006, 08:35 PM
It's just one game. The Pistons will come out a lot more physical, pissed off, and will definitely be ready to play for sure when Game 2 arrives.

The Heat will not beat Detroit in this series. I know the Heat is supposedly a different team, however, I believe Detroit really is going to make them look pretty bad in this series.

I agree that the pistons in game 2 will have more urgency, but it'll be bc they DO NOT want to come to south beach down 0-2. Detroit is a great defense team. But as we've seen this year in the playoffs, great offense beats great defense. It's the Heat vs. Mavs in the Finals

Victor Von Doom
05-24-2006, 08:36 PM
I say Heat in 5. that's right Piston's only take 1.

U.S War Machine
05-24-2006, 08:38 PM
What you got Shaq vs. Wallace [Ben] I mean wallace is tryin to put up a good fight in the low post against shaq wouldn't you say

Victor Von Doom
05-24-2006, 08:42 PM
Ben Wallace is a total non factor on the offensive end. Everytime Detroit has the ball, it's practically 4 on 5. The only thing you have to worry about with Ben is that he might dunk the ball, but that's just not likely with a healthy diesel in the lane.

The Incredible Hulk
05-24-2006, 09:44 PM
offensive non factor? :confused: Christ, do you guys know anything about basketball??? Ben Wallace led the entire NBA this season in both offensive rebounds (301) and offensive rebounds per game (3.7). Granted he doesnt score a ton, but he's HUGE on the offensive glass for this team, in addition to being the defenssive player of the year 4 out of the past 5 years....Scoring isnt his function on the team, and he more than makes up for it in other areas.
You want to talk about a guy who's only talent is dunking the ball, look no further than Shaq.

Mister J
05-24-2006, 10:22 PM
You want to talk about a guy who's only talent is dunking the ball, look no further than Shaq.
Yes, shame on Shaq for dunking all these years. Who cares if he's strong and dominant enough to establish that position and take such a high percentage shot. I don't care if the announcers have been mentioning Shaq's use of finesse moves of as late to combat the foul trouble he's been experiencing. It makes no difference that he used a series of dropsteps, jumphooks, and spins last night. I demand he start shooting 3-pointers now to justify yet another All-NBA First Team! :mad:

The Ether
05-24-2006, 10:34 PM
Mavs lost game 1 boo-urns

LastSunrise1981
05-24-2006, 10:37 PM
I didn't watch the entire game of the Mavs/Suns. But I just reviewed the stats and for Diaw to have 37 points is inexcusable.

From the sounds of it they made Diaw, Marion, and Nash look like absolute superstars. Oh well, it's just one game and Dallas will probably take the next one on Friday.

Edit: Where is everybody? Only one person watched the game? I figured we all should have a much better discussion that mush mouth Charles can ever have. :p

But seriously, from the sounds and looks of it, it appears it was a really good and tense close game. Obviously Diaw, Marion, and Nash caught fire which is unfortunate. Apparently the defense of the Mavericks isn't as good as it should be, but as I said, it's one game and Dallas is just going to have to play smarter, more focused, and not allow easy lay-ups and wide open threes.

Mister J
05-24-2006, 10:43 PM
Seeing Diaw with 37 caught me off guard too. :confused:

I know Dallas has some firepower, but they really don't need to try to run with Phoenix.
The Mavs let one get away tonight. Of course, if past history is any indication, the Suns will be more than happy to allow Dallas to make up for it.

The Incredible Hulk
05-24-2006, 10:45 PM
that doesnt surprise me. Neither of those teams can play defense

LastSunrise1981
05-24-2006, 10:48 PM
that doesnt surprise me. Neither of those teams can play defense

Both teams are okay defensively. They're not horrible by any means, they're not great when it comes to say Detroit, San Antonio, or even Chicago in particular.

I don't mind seeing high scoring games at all. But I also want to see some defense and from the looks of it by viewing the stats, there was none on either side of the equation.

I think Phoenix are a very overrated team. The Lakers proved if you can move it to a half-court offense/defense, slow the tempo, and not run with them, you can easily beat them and make them look like the elderly team they are when they're suffocated by a half-court set defense.

Maybe Avery can use the Phil Jackson strategy and slow the tempo down.

The Incredible Hulk
05-24-2006, 10:52 PM
Yes, shame on Shaq for dunking all these years. Who cares if he's strong and dominant enough to establish that position and take such a high percentage shot. I don't care if the announcers have been mentioning Shaq's use of finesse moves of as late to combat the foul trouble he's been experiencing. It makes no difference that he used a series of dropsteps, jumphooks, and spins last night. I demand he start shooting 3-pointers now to justify yet another All-NBA First Team! :mad:

yes because if one cant dunk it implies they must be able to hit 3's right? :rolleyes: All of the great centers had a much more rounded game than Shaq does. Chamberlain, Russell, Kareem, Walton, Ewing, Olajuwon, etc all had a decent game from 5-10 feet away from the hoop, and they could actually hit free throws with a decent consistency. Something Shaq has never had.He's by FAR the most one dimensional big time center. That's not a bad thing mind you, since it obviously works for the guy. But people shouldnt be pointing the finger at Wallace for only being able to dunk when SHaq is on your team.

The Incredible Hulk
05-24-2006, 10:57 PM
Both teams are okay defensively. They're not horrible by any means, they're not great when it comes to say Detroit, San Antonio, or even Chicago in particular.

I don't mind seeing high scoring games at all. But I also want to see some defense and from the looks of it by viewing the stats, there was none on either side of the equation.

I think Phoenix are a very overrated team. The Lakers proved if you can move it to a half-court offense/defense, slow the tempo, and not run with them, you can easily beat them and make them look like the elderly team they are when they're suffocated by a half-court set defense.

Maybe Avery can use the Phil Jackson strategy and slow the tempo down.

actually Phoenix was the 3rd worst team in the NBA in points allowed (102.8), surprisingly the Mavs were 7th best (92.3) whihc surprises me.

LastSunrise1981
05-24-2006, 10:59 PM
actually Phoenix was the 3rd worst team in the NBA in points allowed (102.8), surprisingly the Mavs were 7th best (92.3) whihc surprises me.

Really? I never knew that. 3 is very high up there, and 7 is a pretty high number too, so neither team are that good at holding teams to a low percentage in the game.

Well one thing is for sure, we'll see a lot of high scoring in this series. :p

Victor Von Doom
05-24-2006, 11:23 PM
Granted he doesnt score a ton,
Which is consequentally the only thing I was talking about. I was stating that he's not an offensive threat, leaving the defense free to double team out of the zone. Just keep him out of the lane and what's he got? shaq will occasionally bank in a turn around J.

samurai black
05-25-2006, 01:10 PM
But people shouldnt be pointing the finger at Wallace for only being able to dunk when Shaq is on your team.

Shaq and Wallace contribute to their teams in the manner they were recruited to do so and both are great players. Granted Shaq has lost some his dominant attitude (and gained some pounds) haslem easily makes up for any defense slack he gives. Where the teams differ is not their centers, but in their depth. Miami has the best supporting cast in the playoffs right now and for all the flack they get for being old, still manage to outplay the pistons bench.

samurai black
05-25-2006, 01:26 PM
All of the great centers had a much more rounded game than Shaq does. Chamberlain, Russell, Kareem, Walton, Ewing, Olajuwon, etc all had a decent game from 5-10 feet away from the hoop, and they could actually hit free throws with a decent consistency. Something Shaq has never had.He's by FAR the most one dimensional big time center.

Russell was known for his extraordinary defensive ability and rebounding, and on a waaaay lesser note, so was walton.
Ewing's has great shooting abilty, but never was an inside threat or consistent defensive threat. (remember the trouble he would have with the bulls 3 headed center monster?)
Kareem and Olajuwan were truly magnificent big men. The perfect balance of inside/outside game. Kevin Garnett is more of an the type of player they should be compared to.
Chamberlain was a giant amongst ants, which is Shaq is to modern age basketball. He may not have the grace of kareem and hakeem, but Shaq has used his gifts to the best of his ability and deserves to be mentioned with all of the names above.

Assassin
05-25-2006, 03:30 PM
So let me get this straight. Detroit wins one Championship in the last 15 years.

Then the next year struggles with a already crippled Indiana team. Then goes to game seven with a team that had Shaq hurt in the beginning of the series, then lost wade in the end of the series.

Then! goes to game seven this year with a team that really only has one great player.

What in the blue hell does Detroit fans have to be cocky about? Detroit is a mediocre team simple as that. They may have won a crap load of games during the season, but so did seattle when Denver steam rolled them back in the 90's. This Miami series is going 5 maybe 4 games. This is not going to be as much of a series as some of you think it will be.


you're ****ing stupid, and i say that in the nicest way possible. even the ppl who hate detroit respect the pistions as a team, a really really good team.

Assassin
05-25-2006, 03:30 PM
So let me get this straight. Detroit wins one Championship in the last 15 years.

Then the next year struggles with a already crippled Indiana team. Then goes to game seven with a team that had Shaq hurt in the beginning of the series, then lost wade in the end of the series.

Then! goes to game seven this year with a team that really only has one great player.

What in the blue hell does Detroit fans have to be cocky about? Detroit is a mediocre team simple as that. They may have won a crap load of games during the season, but so did seattle when Denver steam rolled them back in the 90's. This Miami series is going 5 maybe 4 games. This is not going to be as much of a series as some of you think it will be.


you're ****ing stupid, and i say that in the nicest way possible. even the ppl who hate detroit respect the pistions as a team, a really really good team.

Go Web Go!
05-25-2006, 10:06 PM
For as bad as Miami played they only lost by 4. Had they learned how to make a shot in the first half, maybe get a rebound or 2 they would be going home up 2-0. Oh well. They didn't. Game 3 Saturday.

Mister J
05-25-2006, 10:06 PM
The boys missed an opportunity at 77-71; took some bad shots instead of going for the money plays. The role players did show up until the end of the 3rd. Needless to say, Miami needs to take care of business at the Triple A with some sweet home cookin'.

edit: Does Chauncey ever miss a ****ing free throw? :mad:

The Incredible Hulk
05-25-2006, 10:14 PM
Well that was 45 minutes of Pistons basketball, hard nosed defense, clutch shooting, etc.
The last 3 minutes however, I dont know what that was. It was just UGLY. No way it shouldve been that close at the end. Too many mental mistakes. Although the ref ignoring Tayshaun when he calls a time out after Payton plows Billups out of bounds, didnt help any. Still, they needed to play a full 48 and didnt do it, and that better change come Saturday night. BTW anyone else think that ref looked like the Crypt Keeper?

Mister J
05-25-2006, 10:19 PM
The ref did look wacky. I wonder what he said to Prince after the game. Whatever it was, he doesn't have any business antagonizing players. These damn refs need to be reigned in.

Jplaya2023
05-25-2006, 10:27 PM
Miami just lost a chance at winning this series. Played 2 complacent. Wade playing like an idiot and Shaq not dominating.

Antwione walker is a cancer along with HO DOURVES ass Udonis Haslem.

Go Web Go!
05-26-2006, 12:29 AM
Miami just lost a chance at winning this series. Played 2 complacent. Wade playing like an idiot and Shaq not dominating.

Antwione walker is a cancer along with HO DOURVES ass Udonis Haslem.

You don't know anything about basketball. Go away.

Although the ref ignoring Tayshaun when he calls a time out after Payton plows Billups out of bounds, didnt help any. BTW anyone else think that ref looked like the Crypt Keeper?


Now now. He wasn't ignoring Tayshaun. He's just blind in one eye and forgot to bring his hearing aids to The Palace tonight. Anyway, I'm guessing you're not familiar with Dick Bavetta, eh? Liked around the league from what I understand, but he's known for some bogus calls/no-calls. Hell, I went to a game earlier this year where he slipped while running down from one side of the court to the other and SMACK. He hit the floor. The crowd started cheering. I kinda felt sorry for the old man. Hehe. :O

Ghostvirus
05-26-2006, 02:17 AM
you're ****ing stupid, and i say that in the nicest way possible. even the ppl who hate detroit respect the pistions as a team, a really really good team.

I never said that I didn't respect them. I also don't hate them. I just think that they are not as good as they seemed in the Reg. Season.

I do love how you broke my reasons down in a logical sensible manner. Without having to resort to childish name.... oh wait that was the Incredible Hulk that debated logically, my bad.

The Incredible Hulk
05-26-2006, 09:51 AM
I always knew Shaq was "special" LOL

http://www.espn.go.com/photo/2006/0525/nba_g_shaq_395.jpg

Ultimate_Superman
05-26-2006, 10:16 AM
The Pistons almost threw that game away which was very very very sad which is why I picked the Heat to win in 6.

Super_Ludacris
05-26-2006, 10:32 AM
Bevatta's a homo straight up. How the hell can you not hear Tayshaun call the time out? Makes me feel like the refs and stern want Wade and Shaq in the finals for ratings. The crowd was too loud? The arena was half empty with a minute to go, what's really good?

As for people questioning Detroit's ability, yes they can be complacent and cocky and they have every right to be but they rely soley on there work. This is a team with no superstars and yet they still win consistently but sometimes (which is natural) they can keep it up (because they got no superstars but also yeah there complacent) nevertheless we have seen there motto "If it aint rough it aint right" and this team will claw and scrap.

A team with Shaq and D-Wade SHOULD have beaten them in the regular season and handle them but Detroit claws and scraps but they cannot be complacent because it showed in the last quarter when they gave the Heat's supporting cast open shots after they did a great job making them non-factors for 3 quarters and that was on the Pistons, they laid back on the defense in the last 2 minutes because they thought it was garbage time, they need to take that into account. Even if Detroit loses both games in Miami this thing is going 7 games and that's real.

Ghostvirus
05-26-2006, 11:48 AM
Seriously, you all need to stop blaming the Refs & Stern for every little thing that happens. The refs are bad in every sport. It's almost as much a tradition as the sport its self. It is also easier to blame the refs instead of just saying there team played poorly.

For instance if Prince hadn't cut it so close to 5 seconds before calling the time out. He wouldn't have put him self in that situation.

Super_Ludacris
05-26-2006, 11:59 AM
If you saw the game he was screaming for time out well before the 5 seconds ran out. I mean jesus you only have 5 seconds, plus you saw the highlights on Sportscenter, Flip was signalling to the other ref for a TO.

And Bevatta's excuse was he couldnt hear him cause the crowd was too loud? Cracka please....

Jplaya2023
05-26-2006, 01:28 PM
You don't know anything about basketball. Go away.



I've forgotten more basketball than you know. Beat it Junior.

The heat fugged up plain and simple. Riley now needs to put udonis (mcdonalds commercial making) haslem on the bench and either go big with zo or go small with posey. Haslem sucks.

Wade is turning the ball over way to many times off pick and rolls and his careless passing is hurting them as well. He needs to do a better job at recognizing when his teammates are on and when their not. When he made that 3 in the 4th quarter i thought he would start to take over. But for the next 5 possessions he doesnt even touch the rock and twione walker and posey are jacking up 3's. That essentially ended the game.

Go Web Go!
05-26-2006, 04:15 PM
I've forgotten more basketball than you know. Beat it Junior.

The heat fugged up plain and simple. Riley now needs to put udonis (mcdonalds commercial making) haslem on the bench and either go big with zo or go small with posey. Haslem sucks.

Wade is turning the ball over way to many times off pick and rolls and his careless passing is hurting them as well. He needs to do a better job at recognizing when his teammates are on and when their not. When he made that 3 in the 4th quarter i thought he would start to take over. But for the next 5 possessions he doesnt even touch the rock and twione walker and posey are jacking up 3's. That essentially ended the game.

You know...you're right. You know so much more. I apologize. Just look at all the obvious points you've made. You can't turn the ball over. You need to score baskets. You need to make good passes. Taking bad shots killed them. You should be sitting next to Hubie Brown, sir.

Haslem has had 2 bad games and you're calling for his head? Please. The guy is as consistent with his mid-range jumpshots as anyone in the league. He shot over 50% in the regular season and hasn't played any different in the playoffs with the exception of the last 2 games. He'll bounce back.

Jplaya2023
05-26-2006, 04:59 PM
You know...you're right. You know so much more. I apologize. Just look at all the obvious points you've made. You can't turn the ball over. You need to score baskets. You need to make good passes. Taking bad shots killed them. You should be sitting next to Hubie Brown, sir.

Haslem has had 2 bad games and you're calling for his head? Please. The guy is as consistent with his mid-range jumpshots as anyone in the league. He shot over 50% in the regular season and hasn't played any different in the playoffs with the exception of the last 2 games. He'll bounce back.


Haslem is sucking at the wrong part of the season. Riley cant afford for haslem to "bounce" back he needs to be consistent from the get go. When the heat went small they scored 17 points in 1:40 of game time. That extra athleticism with posey out there makes them a more dangerous team that can spread the floor for when shaq is out there.

DarthRekal
05-26-2006, 05:53 PM
If you saw the game he was screaming for time out well before the 5 seconds ran out. I mean jesus you only have 5 seconds, plus you saw the highlights on Sportscenter, Flip was signalling to the other ref for a TO.

And Bevatta's excuse was he couldnt hear him cause the crowd was too loud? Cracka please....

bevetta needs to retire.. i wonder what he called tayshaun..did you see his interview ..prince said he apologized but not for seeing the TO ...for saying somethin to him....i agree...homes blew it and prolly on purpose...:down

LastSunrise1981
05-26-2006, 11:46 PM
Go Dallas! They tied the series tonight. I wish they were up 2-0 at this point, but hopefully when the games in Phoenix arrive they can take both and finish it in Dallas.

Won't be easy though.

If they get by Phoenix and I believe they will, the championship will be set and Dallas will win it all if they get by the Suns. :up: :up:

LastSunrise1981
05-27-2006, 12:53 AM
So no one watched the Phoenix/Dallas game? :confused:

DOG LIPS
05-27-2006, 12:54 AM
So no one watched the Phoenix/Dallas game? :confused:
I did, great game. Go Dallas!!! :D

Go Web Go!
05-27-2006, 01:18 AM
Haslem is sucking at the wrong part of the season. Riley cant afford for haslem to "bounce" back he needs to be consistent from the get go. When the heat went small they scored 17 points in 1:40 of game time. That extra athleticism with posey out there makes them a more dangerous team that can spread the floor for when shaq is out there.

Who would you like in there to replace Haslem? Shandon Anderson? Maybe Michael Doleac? I know! Jason Kapono!

Ok, it's playoff time. He knows it. He'll BOUNCE back. He's a better offensive player than Posey and has done a decent job on a bigger Rasheed Wallace.

Jplaya2023
05-27-2006, 01:31 AM
Who would you like in there to replace Haslem? Shandon Anderson? Maybe Michael Doleac? I know! Jason Kapono!

Ok, it's playoff time. He knows it. He'll BOUNCE back. He's a better offensive player than Posey and has done a decent job on a bigger Rasheed Wallace.


Jesus,did you not see the suggesstion that suggested that instead of haslem they could go big with zo, or they could go small with james posey. Lol @ naming the worse players on the team what a joke.

O'neal
Mourning
Walker
Wade
Williams

or

O'neal
Walker
Posey
Wade
Williams

Go Web Go!
05-27-2006, 02:10 AM
Not familiar with sarcasm, eh?

Mourning's too slow to defend any part of the court other than the post. He can't chase Rasheed around and close in on 3 pointers. He's not as mobile. And Posey just isn't an offenaive threat. They need to score points. Haslem can provide that.

Jplaya2023
05-27-2006, 10:00 AM
Not familiar with sarcasm, eh?

Mourning's too slow to defend any part of the court other than the post. He can't chase Rasheed around and close in on 3 pointers. He's not as mobile. And Posey just isn't an offenaive threat. They need to score points. Haslem can provide that.

haslem 1-12 in the first 2 games. Haslem cant guard rasheed anyway and mourning with force him to shoot jumpers instead of posting up haslem and ****ting on him. Posey is there to shoot "open" 3pt shots created by shaq and wade and he can play defense on tay better than anyone on that team could.

Super_Ludacris
05-27-2006, 11:35 AM
So no one watched the Phoenix/Dallas game? :confused:

I did and to be honest Phoenix is right in it even with no Raja Bell, Kurt Thomas and Amare. I mean the were leading for most of the game and only fell apart when there shots werent going down in the 4th. It could have been 2-0 easily. They need to be more aggressive with their interior scoring and not take rush shots, every one on the Suns team messed up in the 4th, the game was there's for the taking. But the advantage is they got confidence and a split heading back to the Phoenix

Go Web Go!
05-27-2006, 01:37 PM
First Kobe, now Amare:

Stoudemire to switch to No. 1:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2459075&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

Jplaya2023
05-27-2006, 09:53 PM
good win for the heat. Udonis trashcan played OK this game. Wade's effiency is disgusting

Go Web Go!
05-27-2006, 09:56 PM
Heat win :up:

good win for the heat. Udonis trashcan played OK this game. Wade's effiency is disgusting

10 points and 7 rebounds is his average. What else do you want? By the way you rip the guy I would think he raped your sister. Sheesh.

Mister J
05-27-2006, 09:57 PM
The Heatians looked good tonight. Big efforts from Shaq and D.Wade. Walker's penetration, scoring and distributing was huge. Haslem chipped in with about 10 and some tight post D.

They got kinda flat early in the 4th and got the lead cut to 1, but responded well to close it out. We need more of the same in Game 4.

Jplaya2023
05-27-2006, 10:04 PM
Heat win :up:



10 points and 7 rebounds is his average. What else do you want? By the way you rip the guy I would think he raped your sister. Sheesh.

for him to be consistent every game.

I like him he has a horace grant potential for my bulls squads in the early 90's but he isnt consistnet enough.

Mister J
05-28-2006, 04:03 PM
It's kinda quiet around this place. Hmm...

You can't arrest me. I'm a basketball player. I play for the Washington Wizards, and I'm not going to leave my teammate.

Hey! You're Not David Stern. I Don't Have To Listen To You! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2461375)

batman44
05-28-2006, 10:25 PM
Mavs now lead series 2 to1.

DOG LIPS
05-28-2006, 10:26 PM
Good game, go Mavs!!! :D:D:D

LastSunrise1981
05-28-2006, 10:42 PM
GO DALLAS! I'm not going to celebrate just yet though. I know this series can go either way and the Suns did come back from a 3-1 deficit.

So I'm intending to stay humble while up 2-1 and will stay even more humbler if they go 3-1.

Either way I'm happy my favorite team has the leader. If only they won Game 1 and they'd be up 3-0. Oh well, can't win them all, right? :)

Mister J
05-28-2006, 10:46 PM
I get the feeling this thing is going 7. Both teams seem to eager to let the other back into the game. Dallas did step up and finally play some D tonight after trying to run with Phoenix in the first 2 games. If they continue that, forget about 7.

Go Web Go!
05-29-2006, 01:53 AM
It's kinda quiet around this place. Hmm...



Hey! You're Not David Stern. I Don't Have To Listen To You! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2461375)

Ha. I saw that in the news. Silly Gilbert. :down

NOFX
05-29-2006, 02:07 AM
Damn why couldnt Bell be injured during the last series with the Clippers :O

Mister J
05-29-2006, 10:00 PM
Heat 3-1, baby!!

batman44
05-29-2006, 10:07 PM
Pistons I dunno they have not been playing the way they should. Good job Maimi, even though they lost some "heat" in the third quarter they definitely turned it up in the fourth. And did ya'll see Shaq on the fast break?!!! Too funny.

Mister J
05-29-2006, 10:12 PM
Detroit's laziness and arrogance is catching up with them in the face of a team that's more than capable. I didn't pay too much attention to that ugly loss @ Milwaukee, but that Cleveland series was ridiculous. No way that thing should have gone more than 6 games. They've got internal issues too, with players questioning the coach's decisions.

The Diesel running the break was hilarious. His reaction on his way back up the court was funny too.

batman44
05-29-2006, 10:17 PM
Detroit's laziness and arrogance is catching up with them in the face of a team that's more than capable. I didn't pay too much attention to that ugly loss @ Milwaukee, but that Cleveland series was ridiculous. No way that thing should have gone more than 6 games. They've got internal issues too, with players questioning the coach's decisions.

The Diesel running the break was hilarious. His reaction on his way back up the court was funny too.

I couldn't have said better myself. Detriot needs to do a self check and get back in the game. If the Miami closes Detriot out next game, I'll happy for Miami but dissapionted in the this series as it should be better.

Jplaya2023
05-29-2006, 10:18 PM
miami played well but will have to make their ft's and not go into droughts like they did at the start of the 3rd quarter to win.

LastSunrise1981
05-29-2006, 10:26 PM
That's okay. If we get by the Suns in the series, it'll be fun watching the Mavs literally dismantle the Heat.

The Heat stand no chance against the Mavs or the Suns for that matter.

Mister J
05-29-2006, 10:26 PM
That's okay. If we get by the Suns in the series, it'll be fun watching the Mavs literally dismantle the Heat.

The Heat stand no chance against the Mavs or the Suns for that matter.

Joke of the night.

Go Web Go!
05-29-2006, 10:36 PM
The Heat stand no chance against the Mavs or the Suns for that matter.

They're picking apart the 2-time Eastern champs. Weren't they EVERYONE'S pick throughout the season to win the NBA title? Weren't they the "best" team in the league throughout the year? Yeah, I believe that was them. If Miami can do this to Detroit they can do it to anyone else.



Piston fans...where are you? :confused:

Mister J
05-29-2006, 10:44 PM
Piston fans...where are you? :confused:
Really.

Game 5 is coming up. Shouldn't Detroit be getting ready to close out the series? :confused:

LastSunrise1981
05-29-2006, 10:45 PM
I'm not saying Miami wouldn't win any games against Dallas. However, Dallas has a much deeper bench than Detroit or Miami.

It's still not over between Detroit or Miami though. Just like the Suns came back from a 3-1 deficit against the Lakers; Detroit can still catch fire and end up taking Miami to a 7th Game.

It's nowhere near over between the Mavs and Suns either.

But seriously Miami nor Detroit stand a chance against Dallas or Phoenix at all. They would probably win a game or two, but in the end, Phoenix or Dallas would take the series against both teams in the long run.

Just like everyone thought that the "Dream Team Lakers" would punk out Detroit and Detroit *****slapped them.

Jplaya2023
05-29-2006, 11:10 PM
They're picking apart the 2-time Eastern champs. Weren't they EVERYONE'S pick throughout the season to win the NBA title? Weren't they the "best" team in the league throughout the year? Yeah, I believe that was them. If Miami can do this to Detroit they can do it to anyone else.



Piston fans...where are you? :confused:

your boy udonis played his ass off tonight

Mister J
05-29-2006, 11:31 PM
I'm not saying Miami wouldn't win any games against Dallas. However, Dallas has a much deeper bench than Detroit or Miami.

It's still not over between Detroit or Miami though. Just like the Suns came back from a 3-1 deficit against the Lakers; Detroit can still catch fire and end up taking Miami to a 7th Game.

It's nowhere near over between the Mavs and Suns either.

But seriously Miami nor Detroit stand a chance against Dallas or Phoenix at all. They would probably win a game or two, but in the end, Phoenix or Dallas would take the series against both teams in the long run.

Just like everyone thought that the "Dream Team Lakers" would punk out Detroit and Detroit *****slapped them.
Seriously, have you contacted the people at The Comedy Store or The Laugh Factory yet?

LastSunrise1981
05-29-2006, 11:33 PM
Seriously, have you contacted the people at The Comedy Store or The Laugh Factory yet?

Nope. Just because they're beating Detroit doesn't mean they'll win against Dallas or Phoenix.

I'm not denying the Heat's talent at all. They're a great team and their nucleus is a very tough one, but seriously, in MY opinion I don't think the Heat or Detroit stand a chance against Dallas or Phoenix.

Both teams have much deeper benches and more consistency.

What will happen if Detroit comes back and wins this series? Anything can happen and who knows, maybe the Heat can or will beat Dallas or Phoenix, even though I don't see it happening at all.

Jplaya2023
05-29-2006, 11:48 PM
Nope. Just because they're beating Detroit doesn't mean they'll win against Dallas or Phoenix.

I'm not denying the Heat's talent at all. They're a great team and their nucleus is a very tough one, but seriously, in MY opinion I don't think the Heat or Detroit stand a chance against Dallas or Phoenix.

Both teams have much deeper benches and more consistency.

What will happen if Detroit comes back and wins this series? Anything can happen and who knows, maybe the Heat can or will beat Dallas or Phoenix, even though I don't see it happening at all.

the suns dont have a bench

NOFX
05-30-2006, 01:08 AM
The Heat stand no chance against the Mavs or the Suns for that matter.
:rolleyes:

Who's going to stop Shaq? Eric Dampier? Diop? They have no answers for shaq, let alone Wade.

Ghostvirus
05-30-2006, 01:34 AM
:rolleyes: So I guess now that Detroit is pretty much done. It is time for The Dallas & Sun fanse to start talking smack:rolleyes:. I swear it isn't Detroit that hasn't gotten enough love this year. Its Miami. I hope that win the championship. Just to shut everyone up.:joker:

The Incredible Hulk
05-30-2006, 08:52 AM
Pistons fans are here. Just spent my Memorial Day weekend drunk and sunburnt, which is how the Pistons have looked the last two games. They havent looked themselves outside of the first 3 quarters of Game 2. The Heat are literally beating the snot out of them, and should be given credit. Though I still detest Wade and his out of control drives to the hoop where he starts looking at the ref for a foul call before he even leaves his feet, but that's a whole nother story.
The Pistons have dug themselves a fine hole now. Time to put this "backs against the wall" crap that Rasheed and Rip like to spew to the test.

Ultimate_Superman
05-30-2006, 08:56 AM
Well I think the Pistons will win tomorrow but game 6 will be their last.

Soundwave
05-30-2006, 09:06 AM
My Mavs are going to take the next step in their championship run tonight in Phoenix. Mavs are playing some excellent ball right now and I just think that Phoenix has completely run out of gas. Dallas just has too much depth for the Suns to handle and when Phoenix is not hitting their shots, they have no chance because they are not gonna get a lot of seond chance points. Phoenix is still gonna play hard and play them tough but I think all the injuries and fatigue will ultimately be too much to overcome.

I'm stunned at how the Pistons have been playing in these playoffs. Miami is completely having their way with Detroit right now and it seems as if something has been "missing" from Detroit's game ever since the playoffs started. Detroit may win Game 5 but i think the Heat close them out in Game 6.

If the Mavs make the Finals I think they would have to be the favorite to win against either East team. Shaq would be a matchup problem for the Mavs but they beat the Spurs with Tim Duncan playing like a man possessed. I don't think any big man can play any better than what Duncan played against the Mavs for the entire series and the Mavs still went in and won Game 7 on the road in San Antonio. Also Miami has no one to cover Dirk. It will be a great Finals regardless of who's in there. The NBA playoffs haven't been this good in a long time.

Mister J
05-30-2006, 09:07 AM
Just spent my Memorial Day weekend drunk and sunburnt
That's a bad combination, I've been there. The former led to the latter. :(

Poeman
05-30-2006, 11:38 AM
itll be miami vs dallas with dallas wining the championship

dirk is our day and ages larry bird

Ultimate_Superman
05-30-2006, 01:35 PM
Say what you want about Gilbert but thats a stand up guy. He was there trying to see what was going on and seeing how he could help out his friend. To me the cop didn't have to take him to jail but could have explained why they were taking his friend in and let him follow.

Go Web Go!
05-30-2006, 06:38 PM
Say what you want about Gilbert but thats a stand up guy. He was there trying to see what was going on and seeing how he could help out his friend. To me the cop didn't have to take him to jail but could have explained why they were taking his friend in and let him follow.

Do you know him personally? Something tells me you don't. Maybe he is a stand-up guy, maybe he's your usual prick millionaire athlete. The point is if a police officer gives you a command on a busy weekend in that area of Miami (557 arrests as of Sunday) you need to follow it - basketball star or average joe.

LastSunrise1981
05-30-2006, 10:47 PM
VERY disappointed in how Dallas played tonight. As much as it pains me to say this, there's no way they should be struggling with Phoenix the way they are.

This was their chance to go up 3-1 and it's just frustrating to see them play great one game, then play very lazily the next game, so I don't even know what to expect of these guys in the next game.

The fact that Phoenix doesn't have Joe Johnson anymore, Raja Bell is out with a torn calf muscle, no Jim Jackson, and no Amare, just shows that possibly they don't deserve to win a championship. No way they should be getting blown out by a team that is riddled with injuries and very overrated.

If Phoenix wins the next game, then I'll say its over for sure. I'm very disappointed in Dallas right now.

Edit: Nevermind. Raja Bell did play. I never knew you could heal from a torn calf muscle so quick. :rolleyes: More than likely it wasn't torn just bruised or cramped up on him.

Assassin
05-30-2006, 10:49 PM
yea..i can say the same for the pistons

CameraObscura
05-30-2006, 11:24 PM
I'm to sure how you can say the Phoenix is overrated.:rolleyes:

LastSunrise1981
05-30-2006, 11:41 PM
I'm to sure how you can say the Phoenix is overrated.:rolleyes:

Because it's perfectly obvious that when you slow down the pace they're practically a useless team.

They're very overrated much like the Spurs. The Suns haven't faced a team that will grind it out for 48 minutes. Now, in all honesty, the Lakers showed in Games 2, 3, and 4 that if you slow down the pace, control the boards, and play a set offense/set defense the Suns will lose easily.

The problem is stopping them from running. All the Suns are is just a run and gun team. That's all they are. Make them play defense or a set offense and they'll buckle down worse than KG in crunch time.

Go Web Go!
05-30-2006, 11:44 PM
How can the Spurs be overrated? They've won 3 championships since '99. :confused:

Mister J
05-30-2006, 11:49 PM
Not to mention they took Dallas to OT in Game 7. I don't get the overrated thing either.

LastSunrise1981
05-31-2006, 12:44 AM
Not to mention they took Dallas to OT in Game 7. I don't get the overrated thing either.

Overrated because if certain teams learn to clog the paint or defend the paint the Spurs would be useless.

I remember watching them(the Spurs) play against the Lakers(When they had Karl Malone and Shaq). Everytime Parker or Manu tried driving into the pain, Shaq or Malone would put them on their asses.

The end result forced the Spurs to become jump shooters and that's how they lost the series.

So yes I say they're overrated as most of their offensive power is created from penetration.

LastSunrise1981
05-31-2006, 12:46 AM
Not to mention they took Dallas to OT in Game 7. I don't get the overrated thing either.


99 was their year

2000-2002 was the Lakers.

Spurs won the championship in 2003.

Got knocked out by the Lakers in 2004 and Detroit won the championship.

Won it in 2005.

Got knocked out by Dallas this year.

I know their 3 rings outweigh Dallas having 0, however, one has to be able to defend their championships and that's what made teams like Chicago, Detroit, Boston, and Los Angeles so much better than them because they defended their title.

BAH HUMBBUG!
05-31-2006, 12:54 AM
Well I can understand what LastSunrise is saying, but if I agree with him. Then I have to say that the entire NBA is overratted. All teams are, period. That's if I agree with him.

BAH HUMBBUG!
05-31-2006, 12:57 AM
99 was their year

2000-2002 was the Lakers.

Spurs won the championship in 2003.

Got knocked out by the Lakers in 2004 and Detroit won the championship.

Won it in 2005.

Got knocked out by Dallas this year.

I know their 3 rings outweigh Dallas having 0, however, one has to be able to defend their championships and that's what made teams like Chicago, Detroit, Boston, and Los Angeles so much better than them because they defended their title.

Whoa, don't forget you are also talking about one of the greatest decades of the NBA, the 80's. Not to mention you are throwing in Jordan's bulls, come on. You can't compare any of those teams to teams today, it's just not the same game. Yes the Lakers were the last team to repeat, but also look at who they had. Shaq in his prime was/is an unstoppable force, period, against anyone, any era, period.

These days basketball teams don't play ball like they used to. It's really not the same comparing two different eras of basketball.

Mister J
05-31-2006, 01:05 AM
Sunrise, that doesn't make a lot of sense. You're saying if teams could clog/defnd the paint, the Spurs would be useless. It can't be that simple or else teams would do it. Doesn't the fact that the Spurs have those 3 rings in 8 years say something about how proficient they are at what they do and how difficult it is to defend? If it was such a quick fix, San Antonio wouldn't be an elite team and a title contender year in and year out.

You can make the argument that they aren't one of the premiere dynasties in League history, but that's a long way from being overrated. If the Spurs are overrated, you must not have much regard for the rest of the League. It took all Dallas had to top the Spurs this year and the Mavs still have a LONG way to go before they can be as 'overrated' as San Antonio.

You may not like the Spurs, but I don't see how you can't respect what they've done.

Ultimate_Superman
05-31-2006, 08:27 AM
So will today be the last time we see the Pistons???????




I think so.

samurai black
05-31-2006, 10:09 AM
So will today be the last time we see the Pistons???????
I think so.

I think that detroit has too much pride to be eliminated on their own court, so it will last one more game and then they're gone.

Mister J
05-31-2006, 10:36 AM
Yes, Detroit is a proud team and rightfully so. However, I don't think pride is going to have anything to do with it. They've been proud since the season started. It's not as if they lack self-confidence or the ability to get it done. San Antonio is a proud team too and it didn't stop Dallas from lowering the boom on them in Game 7 @ the AT&T Center. They just got outplayed.

As clichéd as it sounds, it's going to come down to execution. Detroit is going to have to man up and find someway to keep Wade and Shaq from doing whatever the hell they want. At the same time, they can't pay too much attention to those guys as to let Walker, Haslem, Posey and the others have a field day with open looks. They've got to be more proficient on the offensive end too. Perhaps most importantly, they need to stop their internal *****ing and the whining about the referees.

The Pistons are capable of getting the W tonight. If it goes down that way, it'll be because they managed to play like they did in the regular season, not because of a desire to not get eliminated at the Palace. Miami knows what type of fire is coming tonight. They're not going to get beat by pride.

samurai black
05-31-2006, 11:19 AM
As clichéd as it sounds, it's going to come down to execution. Detroit is going to have to man up and find someway to keep Wade and Shaq from doing whatever the hell they want. At the same time, they can't pay too much attention to those guys as to let Walker, Haslem, Posey and the others have a field day with open looks. They've got to be more proficient on the offensive end too. Perhaps most importantly, they need to stop their internal *****ing and the whining about the referees.

The Pistons are capable of getting the W tonight. If it goes down that way, it'll be because they managed to play like they did in the regular season, not because of a desire to not get eliminated at the Palace. Miami knows what type of fire is coming tonight. They're not going to get beat by pride.

The Heat are clearly the better team talent wise, but if they have a habit of letting teams back in by playing soft on the road. I think Detroit internal breakdown will be better with the confidence of playing at home. I'm with the Heat all the way, but just alittle nervous about tonights game.

BAH HUMBBUG!
05-31-2006, 01:01 PM
I think that detroit has too much pride to be eliminated on their own court, so it will last one more game and then they're gone.

? Too much pride to be eliminated? Where was that pride when the Cavs came back from being down 3-1?

If Saunders makes the right adjusments they win, if not they lose.

Assassin
05-31-2006, 01:28 PM
no nba team in the final 4 are over-rated, thats impossible..they made it to the finals on each side.

btw, i know lots of detroiters hang out here, click the link in my profile for more info

Go Web Go!
05-31-2006, 04:19 PM
The Heat are clearly the better team talent wise, but if they have a habit of letting teams back in by playing soft on the road.

With the exception of their first 2 roadies in Chicago they've done a fine job on the road. They closed the Bulls series out on the road, won 2 straight in NJ, and won the opener in Detroit. Tonight's game could go either way, but I would think Miami (especially Shaq & Wade) would want to close it out on Detriot's court and get some payback after last years game 7.

Jplaya2023
05-31-2006, 09:44 PM
pistons in 7

The Incredible Hulk
05-31-2006, 09:58 PM
Hey! look who showed up tonight, the Pistons I've watched the past 3 seasons, not the chumps who put on the blue and red down in Miami... Like I said earlier, clamp down on Shaq and Mr. "Out of Control to the Hoop" and force those other 3 faceless dudes to beat you..... Whoever wins Game 6 wins this series.....

Ghostvirus
05-31-2006, 10:10 PM
Hey! look who showed up tonight, the Pistons I've watched the past 3 seasons, not the chumps who put on the blue and red down in Miami... Like I said earlier, clamp down on Shaq and Mr. "Out of Control to the Hoop" and force those other 3 faceless dudes to beat you..... Whoever wins Game 6 wins this series.....

Wow you got quite magic trick going there! You conveniently dissappeared after Miami went up 3-1. Now Bamf! you are back again. Wow!

Go Web Go!
05-31-2006, 10:23 PM
Hey! look who showed up tonight, the Pistons I've watched the past 3 seasons, not the chumps who put on the blue and red down in Miami... Like I said earlier, clamp down on Shaq and Mr. "Out of Control to the Hoop" and force those other 3 faceless dudes to beat you..... Whoever wins Game 6 wins this series.....

I believe it was someone on your beloved Pistons that once said "Even the sun shines on a dogs ass."

The Incredible Hulk
05-31-2006, 10:34 PM
Wow you got quite magic trick going there! You conveniently dissappeared after Miami went up 3-1. Now Bamf! you are back again. Wow!

Hey! You apparently dont know what you're talking about!!! Go back and check this thread for the prior 2 games, and I was on here giving the Heat credit and saying how poor the Pistons had looked, so dont even throw that "fair weather" crap around........ It's ok, I'll wait here while you look, and wait for the apology....

The Incredible Hulk
05-31-2006, 10:36 PM
I believe it was someone on your beloved Pistons that once said "Even the sun shines on a dogs ass."

And I believe it was George Michen who talked about "losing with dignity." I was here after each of the last two games saying that the Heat were the better team those nights, at least give me the same courtesy, hell you're stilll up 3 games to 2....

Go Web Go!
05-31-2006, 10:42 PM
And I believe it was George Michen who talked about "losing with dignity." I was here after each of the last two games saying that the Heat were the better team those nights, at least give me the same courtesy, hell you're stilll up 3 games to 2....

Relax. We're still friends. Miami just wasn't going to win tonight going 6-20 at the FT line. They didn't hit some of their open looks and again had problems holding on to the ball. Tayshaun had a good game, but the rest of the Pistons need to pick it up. In the end they still picked up the win, but Miami still shot a better percentage as bad as they played.

Ghostvirus
05-31-2006, 10:49 PM
I never said you were fair weather. I think you need to look up the definition of that. It does seem that when it looked like your team was through you turned tail, & ran. Now you are back talking smack again. I am guessing that if they lose on Friday you will not be seen talking about basketball until...uhmm... I don't know... October maybe.

Ghostvirus
05-31-2006, 10:51 PM
On a side note - If the Heast stay the way they are, & the Pistons stay the same. We could be looking at one heck of a rivarly for a while.

The Incredible Hulk
05-31-2006, 10:55 PM
It does seem that when it looked like your team was through you turned tail, & ran. Now you are back talking smack again. I am guessing that if they lose on Friday you will not be seen talking about basketball until...uhmm... I don't know... October maybe.

:rolleyes: I didnt run anywhere, go scroll back two stinking pages and read my post from 5/29 after Game 4....

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9006553&postcount=4694

How's your foot taste?

Mister J
06-01-2006, 12:51 AM
The boys were spotty at best tonight. They had no real consistency and were absolutely hideous at the line. Detroit brought it tonight and Miami didn't do enough to take the game and close it out. Tayshaun was out of his mind. This guy makes the craziest shots look routine. The Heatians need a better effort to get this thing done back at the Triple A. The next game in Detroit I wanna hear about is the Tigers.

Ghostvirus
06-01-2006, 01:19 AM
Like Chicken:)

samurai black
06-01-2006, 04:11 PM
When you're that bad from the free throw line, college teams even have a shot. I said it before, it's hard to close out any oppenent in their own arena, let alone the reigning conf champs. The Heat are still the better team, just they didn't have the mentatlity of a team about to be eliminated. Tayshaun said it himself that they(Pistons) play better with their backs against the wall. Miami now feels the pressure knowing if thEy blow game 6, they have to head back into the palace and knock off the pistons. So i believe we'll see a different HEAT team on the floor fri, it'll be the same team that won 11 games in the playoffs and will win 5 more to become champs.

Mister J
06-01-2006, 10:21 PM
What the hell got into Dirk tonight? Obviously, he's one of the best players in the League, but damn. It's like he had a video game cheat code or something.

KALEL114
06-01-2006, 10:27 PM
What the hell got into Dirk tonight? Obviously, he's one of the best players in the League, but damn. It's like he had a video game cheat code or something.
How do you say up,up,down,down,left,right,left,right,b,a,b,a press start in German? That was a great performance. I have a been a Dallas fan for a long tim and know enough to not get to excited yet. I really hope it doesn't go 7 games.

batman44
06-01-2006, 11:54 PM
I'm so mad I missed the second half of tonights Mavs/ Sun's game and all the last Pistons/ Heat game. I told that Dirk had 50 POINTS tonight!!!! I guess he felt that he'd have to make up for the last game.

BAH HUMBBUG!
06-02-2006, 12:38 AM
How do you say up,up,down,down,left,right,left,right,b,a,b,a hold select press start in German? That was a great performance. I have a been a Dallas fan for a long tim and know enough to not get to excited yet. I really hope it doesn't go 7 games.

I don't know how you say it in German but you don't need to hold select. Only press it if you are playing two player :D

DOG LIPS
06-02-2006, 03:07 AM
Great game tonight. Dirk went ****ing ballistic. :up:


Go Mavs!

Mister J
06-02-2006, 08:58 AM
How do you say up,up,down,down,left,right,left,right,b,a,b,a hold select press start in German?
That's funny. :D :up:

In other related news...
Gut-check for the Heatians tonight. Time to close this thing out.

Ultimate_Superman
06-02-2006, 09:07 AM
What the hell got into Dirk tonight? Obviously, he's one of the best players in the League, but damn. It's like he had a video game cheat code or something.Now that I agree with.

samurai black
06-02-2006, 10:22 AM
In other related news...
Gut-check for the Heatians tonight. Time to close this thing out.

Yeah, it's now or never for the Heat. I don't want to see them go back into the palace for game 7. A win tonight validates all the drama that has been their season.

The Incredible Hulk
06-02-2006, 03:24 PM
In other related news...
Gut-check for the Heatians tonight. Time to close this thing out.

Bring It!

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/2006/May/060530/060531_heat_pistons_vlg9p.widec.jpg

denied!

KALEL114
06-02-2006, 09:03 PM
I don't know how you say it in German but you don't need to hold select. Only press it if you are playing two player :D
Ah, thank you for the correction. It has been edited,:up:

KALEL114
06-02-2006, 09:05 PM
Miami is looking pretty good right now. Only 12 minutes left.

NOFX
06-02-2006, 09:07 PM
Looks like Heat will be in the finals! Nice to see Shaq back in the finals! On a side note this will now prove that when the Lakers and pistons met in the finals it was more that the lakers were not on the same page and not because the pistons were the better team!!!

Ghostvirus
06-02-2006, 09:19 PM
Bring It!

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/2006/May/060530/060531_heat_pistons_vlg9p.widec.jpg

denied!

It's Been Brought

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The Incredible Hulk
06-02-2006, 09:24 PM
Looks like Heat will be in the finals! Nice to see Shaq back in the finals! On a side note this will now prove that when the Lakers and pistons met in the finals it was more that the lakers were not on the same page and not because the pistons were the better team!!!

How the hell does anything the Heat do now prove anything about the Fakers from 3 years ago?? :confused: That's like saying because Jordan didnt win a title with the Wizrds his titles with the Bulls were a fraud....
That Faker team was Shaq and Kobe and a bunch of over the hill vets along for the ride on their backs.....the Fakers got swept, it wasnt even close. The Pistons were BY FAR the better team in that series, and unlike this year they actually played defense with a passion.

The Incredible Hulk
06-02-2006, 09:26 PM
It's Been Brought

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/6357/untitled5bw.pnghttp://img153.imageshack.us/img153/772/untitled25yi.png

yeah no kidding. this is embarassing. We've become the T-Wolves of a few years back under Saunders. Oh well good luck in the Finals. I'll be rooting for the heat as I cant stand any of the teams in the West. Go Tigers!

KALEL114
06-02-2006, 09:37 PM
Congrats Heat.

danielisthor
06-02-2006, 09:39 PM
4 more wins to go. GO HEAT.

batman44
06-02-2006, 09:40 PM
Congrats to the Heat. Pistons you ought to be ashamed of yourselves for that game. N E Wayz, Who will Maimi face now Mavs or Suns.........I'm betting Mavs.

Mister J
06-02-2006, 09:40 PM
It's Been Brought

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/6357/untitled5bw.pnghttp://img153.imageshack.us/img153/772/untitled25yi.png Very nice :up:

That's how you're supposed to close out the defending champs at home. Jump on 'em early and stay on 'em.
Good effort all around. I like that Jason Williams had a big game since he was the target of most of the flack that came with all the moves.

12 down, 4 to go.

Go Heatians!

Slipknot
06-02-2006, 09:44 PM
I don't mind the Heat... but I don't like Jason Williams, he seems like such a little *****.

NOFX
06-02-2006, 09:53 PM
How the hell does anything the Heat do now prove anything about the Fakers from 3 years ago?? :confused: That's like saying because Jordan didnt win a title with the Wizrds his titles with the Bulls were a fraud....
That Faker team was Shaq and Kobe and a bunch of over the hill vets along for the ride on their backs.....the Fakers got swept, it wasnt even close. The Pistons were BY FAR the better team in that series, and unlike this year they actually played defense with a passion.
The lakers had way too much turmoil to overcome that series. Kobe free agency, Kobe Rape case, Kobe not passing the ball, Kobe and Shaq hated each other, Phil Jackson retirement, Malone sleeping with Kobe wife, Malone injury, No Robert Horry, Medvenko was playing, etc....Yes the lakers lost the series but they lost not because the pistons were the better team but because all that turmoil and drama! I dont care who you are, theres no way to overcome those distracgtions!