2005-2006 NBA thread

[The Riddler]

FIYA NBA Rankings #8
Rank
Team
FIYA Analysis
1
Pistons

They lost a game and then went back to the lockerroom and laughed for an hour about how good they are.
2
Spurs

When asked why he refuses to start Manu Ginobli, Coach Popovich admitted, "Well, because he has the best skin on the team and I'm jealous."
3
Mavs

There's nothing anyone can say to convince me that The Dirtbag Boys (Josh Howard and Marquis Daniels) don't have weed parties monthly.
4
Grizzlies

All jokes aside, this team plays the right way…because they aren't coached by Larry ****ing Brown.
5
Suns

Steve Nash throws more alley-oops than I did on NBA Live '98 (aka the last good Live game EA put out). Yeah, Steve's incredible.
6
Heat

They had their chance to make a statement against the Pistons and they choked like Greg Norman eating a toasted PB&J on the back nine at Augusta.
7
Cavs

LeBron celebrated his 21st birthday by looking 15 years older than he actually is (Sorry, but that dude got Otis Nixon's disease).
8
Nets

Anyone who still can't admit that Vince Carter is the best dunker of all-time needs to take that cheese out their eyes and stop ignoring Juanita when she tells their cheesy ass to take out the trash.
9
Bucks

Toni Kukoc was born in 1968. Ervin Johnson was born in 1967. These men are old. Why are they still playing? Why not just bring back Robert Parrish? I don't like watching people who were alive when Jimi Hendrix was alive. It's eerie.
10
Pacers

With Ron Artest no longer standing in the way, one has to wonder why Steal O' The Draft, Danny Granger hasn't stepped up for the Pacers. Oh, I know. Because he some bull****.
11
Warriors

Does Adonal Foyle have kids? I sincerely hope not. His ugly genes would dominate any beautiful woman's genes you could name.
12
Clippers

Elton's MVP chances are fading away as sadly as Ray Allen's hairline did. And everyone pretended to not notice that, too.
13
T-Wolves

I would pay to see the looks Spree's relatives give him these days. That's gotta be some uncut comedy right there.
14
76ers

Allen Iverson is dedicating this season to Dan Marino. In past years, he's dedicated seasons to Ernie Banks, Barry Sanders, Ted Williams and Michelle Kwan.
15
Lakers

Asked to comment on his two-game suspension, a smirking Kobe stated: "I respect the League's ruling, but I still think it's little unfair. I mean, it's not like a raped someone." Then, he got in his Benz and drove away laughing like a meglomaniac who had James Bond in a deathtrap. I still don't know why people hate him.
16
Magic

For all the kids out there who never saw G. Hill's first step in his prime, let me put it this way: The ***** used to get the ball, stand there and freeze his man, then he'd take off like Chevy Chase on that sled in National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation.
17
Nuggets

Steve Deberg's pinky to Marcus Camby's pinky: "You're a ****ing pussy, dude."
18
Jazz

Contrary to media reports, Boozer did not return last week. So, I checked his AIM message.
BoozGotPaid: HAHAHA. Sike! Nah, but seriously, I hate it here. (What a *****)
19
Sonics

Asked if he feels any pressure to uphold his father's legacy, Damien Wilkins stopped laughing long enough to say, "My father? He wasn't ****. What the **** you talking about, man…hahahahahaha…'The **** you been smoking, dude?"
20
Bulls

The Bulls paid 60 mill to an overrated big man with a bad heart after all. Funny how that worked out.
21
Wizards

Etan Thomas expressed his feelings about the season with the following Haiku:
Damn, fans. We Sorry. Lots of Offense, No defense. I'm still rich though, fans.
22
Rockets

LMAO…Yao laughing. Yeah, Yao!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Let them *****es suffer. (http://www.fiyastarter.com/fs-gfx/fs-yaonkobe.GIF)
23
Hornets

Bostjan Nachbar, Maciej Lampe and Arvydas Macijauskas do not even form a player as good as Kwame Brown. That is a fact. These Euro scrubs are the reason guys like Louis Bullock, Casey Sanders, Jason Capel, Toby Bailey, and Lester Earl do not cash NBA paychecks. And more of them are drafted each year. That is some bull****.
24
Celtics

If Paul Pierce tells anyone that he wants to finish his career in Boston, he should be stabbed.
25
Kings

When you consider that Bonzi is good for at least 15 losses and Shareef is good for 20, doesn't the disappointment of the Kings' season make perfect sense.
26
Blazers

Am I the only one who notices that Zach Randolph looks like Mongo off Heathcliff?
27
Bobcats

Asked to comment on Emeka Okafor's latest injury, an irate Bernie Bickerstaff replied, "**** you! And **** Dwight Howard! There you go. That's my comment. Happy? Print that. Bye."
28
Hawks

If Salim has more than 200 assists this year, I'll gladly staple my balls together.
29
Knicks

Captain's Log: StarDate 6871.3: We have just passed through a severe magnetic storm. Three of our crewman are dead and LARRY BROWN STILL HASN'T SET HIS ****ING STARTING LINEUP!!!! GODDAMN!!! KAAAAAAAAHN!!!!
30
Raptors

Ugliest frontcourt ever? Hmmm. Wait, did the Wizards have Michael Ruffin and Popeye Jones at the same time?
yao laughing? :confused:

[Assassin]

yea i didnt get that either

[Alpha and Omega]

That post is kind of long, more to the point, it's not very funny. Amusing, but not funny.

[Assassin]

i dont care for the poster, therefore i dont care about th emessage

[Alpha and Omega]

well said.

[Jplaya2023]

yao laughing? :confused:

you dont get that fiya comedy

oh well

[Alpha and Omega]

I thought a sig was only supposed to take up 3 lines.

[Eyeballing]

I thought a sig was only supposed to take up 3 lines.

It's Jplaya, what do you expect?

[Alpha and Omega]

This is true. Reasonable expectations are at the heart of disappointment.

[Jplaya2023]

I thought a sig was only supposed to take up 3 lines.

are u the net police?

[Eyeballing]

are u the net police?

Are you the point of no return?

[Super_Ludacris]

smh@ tittyboy hating on Jplaya

[Eyeballing]

smh@ tittyboy hating on Jplaya

SMH?

[Jplaya2023]

SMH?


smh = shaking my head

[Eyeballing]

Ah, meh oh well.

[Assassin]

bye bye boobies

[Immortalfire]

Hawks beat Celtics :up:

[NOFX]

2005-06 Power Rankings: Week 10
RANK (LAST WK) TEAM REC. COMMENT
1 (1) Pistons 26-5 Well ... now we know the team Pistons least want to see in the Finals. A second straight loss to Utah -- yes, Utah -- leaves our trusty No. 1 on a mere 69-13 pace.
2 (2) Spurs 26-8 Just a hunch, but I'm guessing Spurs don't mind one bit that their 26 wins (yes, same as Detroit's total) are generating very little attention/scrutiny/hoopla.
3 (3) Mavericks 25-9 No team has consistently hovered on the heels of the Pistons-Spurs duopoly like Mavs, and here's a big reason why: Dallas is 7-1 in the next game after a loss.
4 (4) Nets 19-12 The week off figured to help preserve Nets' hold on the coveted No. 4 slot. But they barely held on, even after Vince's buzzer-beater in Toronto. Suns are that hot.
5 (6) Suns 22-11 Why didn't they think of this sooner? Formal name change from America West Arena to US Airways Center coincides with back-to-back sweep of Heat and then Spurs.
6 (8) Grizzlies 21-11 My apologies. Grizz have played as though they don't realize Stoudamire's injury is supposed to drop them a notch or two. Until they got to Chicago, anyway.
7 (5) Cavaliers 20-11 Cavs will miss Hughes, obviously, but probably can scrape by in the short term if LBJ keeps this up: 32.5 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 6.9 apg and 51.4-percent shooting since Dec. 1.
8 (11) Pacers 18-13 If you thought last season was one of a kind, think again: Pacers win a couple without O'Neal and Tinsley as the Artest Watch spills into its second month.
9 (7) Heat 20-15 If Riles' goal was shifting the focus off Wade missing a game and an ugly start to a seven-game trip, dropping hints about leaving coaching at season's end did the trick.
10 (13) Jazz 17-17 When you've got Milt Palacio, who needs John Stockton? An exaggeration, perhaps, but for one magical overtime in Motown, you couldn't laugh at that question.
11 (9) Bucks 17-14 T.J. Ford does everything fast, apparently. And no one's happier to see him back so soon than Redd, who shot 36 percent from the floor in four-plus games without him.
12 (14) Lakers 17-16 Maybe Phil won't have to deal directly with Kobe's fury. Maybe the suspension did it for him, judging by the 98 points of anger No. 8 unleashed on Sixers and Clips.
13 (12) Clippers 17-14 Tough for Clips, in the midst of a 3-9 funk, to get too excited about Kaman's surge when the timetable for Maggette's return keeps getting stretched and stretched.
14 (9) Warriors 17-16 The prospect (threat?) of an Artest trade probably is affecting these guys and Denver more than Pacers. Indy, after all, is more accustomed to Artest-related uncertainty.
15 (20) Nuggets 17-18 Anyone else out there expecting Melo, who averaged 29.3 ppg in December, to get more All-Star support from the West's coaches than Grizzlies' Gasol?
16 (15) 76ers 16-17 Devastating as his scoring can be, Iverson is still best when he's also a passer. Sixers are 14-8 when AI has at least six assists, 2-9 when he dishes five or fewer.
17 (18) Hornets 15-18 The present is suddenly painful for Hornets' much-hyped Backcourt of the Future. Paul's out for two weeks, and J.R. Smith has landed in Byron Scott's doghouse.
18 (17) Timberwolves 15-16 Go ahead and add Wolves to the list of teams affected by Artest speculation. Minny is 3-10 since its five-game win streak and under .500 for the first time since 3-4.
19 (27) Raptors 11-23 Way up here? It's a must when my Raps average 110 ppg in stretching their win streak to five and wipe out two second-half deficits of 10-plus points.
20 (19) Wizards 13-18 Just like their first-round playoff foes from Chicago, Wiz are five games under .500. The difference? One coach (Jordan) is feeling more heat than the other (Skiles).
21 (23) Bulls 14-19 If smallish Bulls can recover from an eight-game skid and a 2-9 rut at home, with their declining defense, it would top last season's resurrection from an 0-9 start.
22 (16) Magic 13-18 Retirement is suddenly on Hill's mind, but no one's rooting harder for his swift return than Howard, who desperately needs Hill's playmaking to get to the playoffs.
23 (21) Kings 13-19 The good news? Miller double-doubled in four straight after Reef got hurt. The bad news? Kings don't see Clips again until April; Sacto has won the past 11 meetings.
24 (22) SuperSonics 14-19 The worst news about the new coach getting called for on-court interference in Detroit? Hill's run-in with Rip was the best defensive instinct from Sonics all season.
25 (30) Knicks 10-21 So what can so suddenly make Larry and Steph look (somewhat) harmonious and spark a 3-0 week? Two straight humbling weeks at No. 30, that's what.
26 (24) Celtics 13-20 Celts' defense is getting leakier, and they don't win the close ones: 10 of their 20 losses are by five or fewer points. As a result, fan discontent with Doc is rising.
27 (26) Rockets 12-20 No Yao and no T-Mac? Good thing Houston will be hosting the All-Star Game, because it suddenly has no All-Stars in this bad-to-worse nightmare of a season.
28 (29) Hawks 9-22 On second thought, perhaps Hawks shouldn't be slammed for losing three in a row -- and two in one week -- to a Toronto team that's 10-8 since a 1-15 start.
29 (25) Trail Blazers 10-24 Blake? Telfair? Just start the guy who best puts Randolph in position to score 20 because Blazers win when it happens (8-4) ... but it doesn't happen enough.
30 (28) Bobcats 10-23 As if the Okafor and Knight injuries weren't troubling enough, there's this: Wallace hasn't led Bobcats in scoring once since his Player of the Week honors in November

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I wouldn't put the Jazz so high, but hey that's just me

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

bye bye boobies

Tis true, Tis True :(

[Super_Ludacris]

**** him and his ******* for all you know that could have been a transexual dudes shaking them ta-tas at all of us

anyways, I worry for mcgrady :(

[Lobo]

Yeah that back spasm looked serious :(. I hope he gets better

NYK finally doing something right, and I probably just jinxed them for tonight :(

[Equint77]

Yeah that back spasm looked serious :(. I hope he gets better

NYK finally doing something right, and I probably just jinxed them for tonight :(

you know what's sick??? they're 3 games from the 8th spot for the playoffs. :(

[Lobo]

Undefeated in '06 :D, how's that to start the year ;)

[Equint77]

Undefeated in '06 :D, how's that to start the year ;)

You know Lobo...... I know somewhere here I suggested that Lee can play Small Forward.. and now look...

I dont' care... The 3 rookies are doing great so even if they don't go anywhere this year... they have a decent future with those 3 and Ariza and Curry.

[Lobo]

Yeah we do, but as soon as things start clicking is when Isiah decides to make trades :(, I watched lee in summer league he could average a double double :)

[Super_Ludacris]

Unless you know they decide to bolt or they get traded

[NOFX]

I wouldn't put the Jazz so high, but hey that's just me
They done this without AK47 if im not mistaken.

[DarthRekal]

KOBE!...givin it to the pacers last night!..i was there!:eek:


45+ in four straight games.... dude is UNCANNY!:eek:


Lakers seventh seed.... 1/2 game back of the clips(shouldnt be too hard to catch):up:

[NOFX]

1/2 game back of the clips(shouldnt be too hard to catch):up:
:( :down

[Jplaya2023]

FIYA NBA Rankings #9
Rank
Team
FIYA Analysis
1
Pistons

Is there an official clock counting down the time until everyone can call Darko a bust? If so, someone needs to fix it, because it runs a little too fast on black high schoolers and a bit too slow on Euros.
2
Spurs

Does anyone else laugh at that dumb ass "Is it June, yet?" look on Robert Horry's face? Dude absolutely loafs until playoff time.
3
Mavs

Dirk continues to have the best and most pointless regular seasons of any white player since John Stockton.
4
Suns

…but Nash is gaining on him.
5
Grizzlies

Further attempting to shed his "soft" label, Pau Gasol has now memorized N.W.A.'s entire catalogue, in addition to wearing Stop Snitchin' t-shirts and skullcaps. Despite it all, he still flinches at the sight of Bobby Jackson eating spare ribs. It's just too gully for him.
6
Cavs

If New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin put on Drew Gooden's jersey and replaced him in the lineup, would anyone really notice? (http://fiyastarter.com/fs-gfx/fs-nagin.GIF)
7
Nets

The only dunk left for Vince to do is taking lil' TJ Kidd's head and slamming it on a 12 foot court. I've seen everything else. Step it up, Vince. Dunk TJ's head. I bet you can't.
8
Heat

Without the help of Dwayne Wade, Shaq dropped a whopping 8 pounds in a loss to the Suns. That's a good sign for the Heat. Wait a second…that's points?...WHAT THE?!?!?! Let's just move on...
9
Pacers

Larry "Bad Dad" Bird really thinks he's going to get a sweet deal for Ron Artest. Newsflash, ChickenLips: He's ****ing crazy and everyone knows it. Take the role player and the first rounder that everyone is offering and stop wasting our time.
10
Clippers

Shaun Livingston looks more and more like the tall ass kid in a 16 and under rec league that's just so much better than everyone else. But, this is the NBA and he just looks frail out there.
11
Lakers

48 and 50. To all the people who say I favor Kobe, I'd just like to say "Two wins. 48 and 50."
12
Jazz

Utah is in first place in the Northwest division, despite Carlos Boozer's repeated attempts to sabotage their success and his future life in a state filled with racist Mormons. Can you really blame him?
13
Warriors

As soon as Mike Dunleavy starts playing like he got some damn sense, Baron starts playing like ass. What does that tell us? I think it's obvious. Baron Davis hates white people.
14
Bucks

Reese Gaines leads the Buck in FG%. Ain't that some ****?
15
76ers

Chris Webber is quietly having a 20 and 10 season. That should put to rest any doubt that Iverson can play with other good players…and lose.
16
Nuggets

Carmelo can score all he wants, but until Camby's pinky gets back, they ain't winning.
17
T-Wolves

After answering a call and hearing Tim Duncan on the other end, KG asked, "How your ***** ass get my number?" Duncan responded, "I dunno, man. I just have it." And they both starting laughing like the Smothers Brothers.
18
Hornets

They better be glad they won some games before Chris Paul got hurt. The losing starts now.
19
Bulls
http://fiyastarter.com/fs-gfx/nba/fs-nba-bulls.GIF
Ben Gordon successfully pouted his way into the starting lineup and the Bulls won two in a row. I say it over and over, people…crying helps.
20
Magic

Jameer, despite looking like a goomba from Super Mario brothers, is slowly but surely making Steve Francis look expendable.
21
Sonics

Bob Hill cut Mateen Cleaves. That dirty mother****er! What The 'Teen ever do to him? The 'Teen brings joy to all benches. So what if he misses layups and 10 footers. He makes people smile. He's The 'Teen. He needs a sitcom.
22
Wizards

Gilbert Arenas continues his chase Bernard King's franchise record of "Who gives a ****?" points in a season.
23
Kings

Mike Bibby is so distraught with all the losing that he called his estraged father Henry, who said "Is this about a job, Micheal? No?"
24
Celtics

T-Mac II AKA Gerald Green was demoted to the NBDL last week after stupid ass Danny Ainge realized he's missing a ****ing finger and he will never be as good as T-Mac. Whatchu' think of Isiah passing on him now, Spike? "He did the right thing, Money"--Spike.
25
Rockets

When asked how close he is to returning to action, Yao said through his interpreter, "When I'm done laughing."
26
Knicks

Don't start popping bottles yet, Knick fans. Larry Brown probably wants to lose a few more games, so he can take all the credit for teaching those young players how to win.
27
Raptors

Chuck V raised some eyebrows with two nice games last week. None of the eyebrows belonged to him, but still…
28
Blazers

Where in the world is Darius Miles?
29
Bobcats

After watching Dwight Howard drop 19 and 12 on his team, Bernie Bickerstaff held his post-game press conference with a flame thrower strapped on his back and a look a desperation and hatred in his eyes. After not being asked any questions, he wished all the reporters a safe trip home.
30
Hawks

I wonder if Josh Smith is going to defend his slam dunk title. He ain't got **** else to do.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

**** him and his ******* for all you know that could have been a transexual dudes shaking them ta-tas at all of us

anyways, I worry for mcgrady :(

So basically what you are saying is **** me, since that was my account. And why f me? because I am down on Jplaya? So what most of the people on these boards don't care for him either.

[Super_Ludacris]

So basically what you are saying is **** me, since that was my account. And why f me? because I am down on Jplaya? So what most of the people on these boards don't care for him either.

lol@you having 2 aliases and getting more upset than a housewife

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

lol@you having 2 aliases and getting more upset than a housewife

:rolleyes:

[DarthRekal]

:( :down

sorry nofx..you a clips fan?????


i dont hate the clips like most laker fans would attest.... i actually like the clips....i'm all L.a. all day!...i only root against the clips when it comes to the lakers.....elton brand is a monster!:eek:


but ive been down with purple and gold since birth...so cant betray them...

[Super_Ludacris]

:rolleyes:

lol@ at the weak comeback and rolling your eyes like a girl who just found out she got the wrong baby daddy on the Maury show

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/tmsxl/mad.jpg

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

lol@ at the weak comeback and rolling your eyes like a girl who just found out she got the wrong baby daddy on the Maury show

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/tmsxl/mad.jpg

Sure buddy whatever you say. No matter how I respond you will try to twist it into the fact that I am mad. Why don't you try getting over the fact that I think Jplaya is an idiot. If he's your boy then so what, what do you care what I think of him?

It's not my fault you can't interpret what others say.

[Super_Ludacris]

Sure buddy whatever you say. No matter how I respond you will try to twist it into the fact that I am mad. Why don't you try getting over the fact that I think Jplaya is an idiot. If he's your boy then so what, what do you care what I think of him?

It's not my fault you can't interpret what others say.

The fact that you allow jplaya to get on your nerves is what's hilarous

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

The fact that you allow jplaya to get on your nerves is what's hilarous

He doesn't get on my nerves I just think he's an idiot, whether or not he is being serious is still in question.

[Jplaya2023]

Sure buddy whatever you say. No matter how I respond you will try to twist it into the fact that I am mad. Why don't you try getting over the fact that I think Jplaya is an idiot. If he's your boy then so what, what do you care what I think of him?

It's not my fault you can't interpret what others say.

you have no right to type my name stop now. Thanks

- Management

[Unthinkable]

Off topic, would anyone be interested in joining a Hype Fantasy League next season? It would be kind of dope.

[Jplaya2023]

Off topic, would anyone be interested in joining a Hype Fantasy League next season? It would be kind of dope.

kind sir please explain why my name has graced your sig

[Bizzybone]

So basically what you are saying is **** me, since that was my account. And why f me? because I am down on Jplaya? So what most of the people on these boards don't care for him either.


You're evil, God accepts everyone and you should too.:mad:

[Bizzybone]

lol@ at the weak comeback and rolling your eyes like a girl who just found out she got the wrong baby daddy on the Maury show

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/tmsxl/mad.jpg


Bwhahahahahah.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Unthinkable]

kind sir please explain why my name has graced your sig

Because what you said in my sig is hilarious.

[Jplaya2023]

Because what you said in my sig is hilarious.

Whats so funny about it?? You read/watch batman, they make 1000 of references about batman's secret agenda's

[Poeman]

whats the biggest trade rumour circling?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

You're evil, God accepts everyone and you should too.:mad:

Don't bring God into this because I will turn you into a hypocrite.

"He, who is without sin."

I know I'm not perfect and neither is anyone but that does not mean I have to like Jplaya or that I am evil for thinking he is an idiot, does that make me right? No, but I have the free will to think what I want about anyone. And I never said I hate him and wish him harm, I just think he is off in la la land.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

whats the biggest trade rumour circling?

I don't think it has ben mentioned just yet, but Peja for Artest. Everything is hearsay but think about it. Similar salaries, Peja wants out, especially since they traded Divac, the team is going no where, the kings needs defense, Peja would fit in very nicely at Indiana.

I mean I think it makes the most sense, sure there are talks with other teams like Golden State and Denver but who would you rather have mr. Mike Dunleavy can't drop an open three if he has five minutes or Peja, just get him open looks and he'll drop the three all day ex three point shoot out champ?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

you have no right to type my name stop now. Thanks

- Management

See this is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. As far as I know Malice, Dew and the others are management, not this kid. Maybe that's what he is, just a kid. Oh well, you win some you lose some.

[Bizzybone]

Don't bring God into this because I will turn you into a hypocrite.

Why not? You can't call me a hypocrite.

I know I'm not perfect and neither is anyone but that does not mean I have to like Jplaya or that I am evil for thinking he is an idiot, does that make me right? No, but I have the free will to think what I want about anyone. And I never said I hate him and wish him harm, I just think he is off in la la land.

Jplaya is a brother nontheless. God told eveyone to love one another no matter what the situation might be. I can give a crap whatsoever whether you think that Jplaya is an idiot or not, but that doesn't mean that you can't respect each other.http://superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Bizzybone]

See this is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. As far as I know Malice, Dew and the others are management, not this kid. Maybe that's what he is, just a kid. Oh well, you win some you lose some.

Why are you calling him a kid? Leave him the heck alone. Funny how you seem to post where ever he leaves his foot marks. I should be calling you the hypocrite.

[Bizzybone]

I herd that Ron Artest wanted to go the knicks

[Alpha and Omega]

Kobe scored 45 in 4 straight games. He's the first player to accomplish that since Wilt Chamberlain, and the 3rd in history. Too bad individual accolades are the equivalent of championship success. He's a great player, but late spring and summer basketball is a spectator sport for him now.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Why not? You can't call me a hypocrite.



Jplaya is a brother nontheless. God told eveyone to love one another no matter what the situation might be. I can give a crap whatsoever whether you think that Jplaya is an idiot or not, but that doesn't mean that you can't respect each other.http://superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Once you brouht God into this and started judging me you turned yourself into a hypocrite. I am not saying I am perfect far from it, but what do you care what I think about another?

Maybe you're just a better person than I am, if so leave it at that. I am not calling him a kid referencing to him acting child like, I am just saying maybe he is young, which would explain why he says some of things he does, at least I would understand that. I am not throwing it out as an insult just an inqury.

To tell you the truth I harbor no ill feelings towards Jplaya or anyone, but that does not mean I have to like him. And believe me if you met me in person and talked with me you would be surprised at what I am really about, I don't really get into personal or serious convorsations all that much here at the hype for obvious reasons.

This is a place where I come to discuss comis and other various topics, not serious matters at hand.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Kobe scored 45 in 4 straight games. He's the first player to accomplish that since Wilt Chamberlain, and the 3rd in history. Too bad individual accolades are the equivalent of championship success. He's a great player, but late spring and summer basketball is a spectator sport for him now.

John Sally would have something to say about that.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Why are you calling him a kid? Leave him the heck alone. Funny how you seem to post where ever he leaves his foot marks. I should be calling you the hypocrite.

He just happens to be in one of the threads that I still post in. Luckily he has taken a leave of abscence from the others.

[Alpha and Omega]

John Sally would have something to say about that.

:rolleyes: John Sally is an over-the-hill critic who confuses witless humor for


entertainment......





:) IMO. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon2.gif ESPN > Comcast Sports Net

Stephen A. Smith is hilarious.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

:rolleyes: John Sally is an over-the-hill critic who confuses witless humor for


entertainment......





:) IMO. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon2.gif ESPN > Comcast Sports Net

Agreed but did you specifically here what he and Chris Rose were talking about regarding Jordan and Kobe? I too enjoy ESPN by far to BDSS, with the exception of my future wife Leanne Tweeden (seeing her makes me believe there is a god).

But anyway they were talking about Kobe being selfish and Jordan only caring about winning, Sally was filling everyone in since he played with his Airness. It was interesting to hear what he had to say and compare them.

[Alpha and Omega]

Of course Kobe is selfish, but so was Jordan. I like Jordan better, but I don't dislike Kobe. There should be a new NBA rule for current and former players. Don't mention someone who has won more rings than self.

[Assassin]

screw kobe, its all about Billups now a days :D

Mr Big shot

[Alpha and Omega]

The Pistons will take the East easily. Miami is overrated. Shaq is still injured, and D-wade is nice, but I do not see them beating Detroit.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

The Pistons will take the East easily. Miami is overrated. Shaq is still injured, and D-wade is nice, but I do not see them beating Detroit.

They thought adding MORE or bigger named talent would help but the old rule is the best.

Keep It Simple Stupid!

Pat Riley's ego is getting in the way as well.

I wouldn't say easily, it's too early in the season to say so, you never know what moves will be made. But I agree Detroit is playing on another level just like the Spurs, although the Spurs have the Mavs to worry about.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Of course Kobe is selfish, but so was Jordan. I like Jordan better, but I don't dislike Kobe. There should be a new NBA rule for current and former players. Don't mention someone who has won more rings than self.

Who doesn't like Jordan better? Well I guess most living in LA.

[Alpha and Omega]

They thought adding MORE or bigger named talent would help but the old rule is the best.

Keep It Simple Stupid!

Pat Riley's ego is getting in the way as well.

I wouldn't say easily, it's too early in the season to say so, you never know what moves will be made. But I agree Detroit is playing on another level just like the Spurs, although the Spurs have the Mavs to worry about.

I can't believe Miami added Antoine Walker. When he's in a rhythm, he's decent, but inconsistency plagues him. The postseason isn't kind to him. Pat Riley pulled some shady tactics to put himself back on the bench as well. I like Miami, but they're pick-ups in the office season were questionable.

[Assassin]

I hope Artest doesnt get traded, and gets benched till he quits, arogant(sp?) SOB

[Alpha and Omega]

Artest is leaving the Pacers. The team players had a meeting, and decided that they didn't want to play with him. The Knicks will probably try to acquire him. They need a lot of help. I wonder how Larry Brown feels about Detroit now????

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I hope Artest doesnt get traded, and gets benched till he quits, arogant(sp?) SOB

And you think other players in Basketball, Baseball, Football and many sports aren't arrogant?

[Whack Arnolds]

Haven;t been around in awhile, but I had to stop in and say Kobe is kicking a$$ right now...

[Whack Arnolds]

Haven't been around in awhile, but I had to stop in and say Kobe is kicking a$$ right now...

[Assassin]

u didnt have to tell us twice :(

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Hey you know Stern is geting 100 million a year for 5 years with Sirus? Unless they go bankrupt

[Assassin]

yep, im getting mine in a few weeks

[Whack Arnolds]

Sorry, didn't mean to double post.

[Assassin]

no prob, but making fun of u adds to my post count, nothing personal:D

[Whack Arnolds]

no prob, but making fun of u adds to my post count, nothing personal:DNo doubt. Go ahead with the shots, lol.

[Assassin]

who won today, i was at work, pistons or new orleans?

[NOFX]

Detroit of course:o But on a side note the Clips won today against the magic without Brand and Maggette.:up:

[Assassin]

27 and 5?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yup, 27 and 5 same amount of wins as Spurs and oh no look out the MAVS! :eek:

[NOFX]

Hmmm recent rumors now have Artest for Maggette:( I dont want that!!! Keep Maggette in L.A.!!! I dont care if the Clippers are struggling right now.:o

Quaint idea my pal Professor Hollinger tossed out in a chat the other day, informing his audience that he would happily answer their questions so long as no one asked about Ron Artest.


Maybe it's different in the numbers game, but there's really no such thing as an Artest-free zone on the NBA map.

These days? Every conversation with every executive or coach or scout or agent starts the same. The only uncertainty lies with who asks the question first.

When's this Artest thing going to happen?

Exactly a month has elapsed since Artest decided to tell the local newspaper instead of his Pacer bosses that he wanted to be traded and still we don't know for sure. All I can share, as the calendar flips to Day 32 of the Artest Watch, is the latest info as of Tuesday evening.

In three parts:

A) How can the Pacers be so patient? You are hardly alone in your wonderment, but it really isn't a mystery.

Quite simply, there is no move Indy can make this season that will restore its contender status. This season is already ruined, folks, as far as the Pacers' aspirations to win an Eastern Conference that also houses Detroit, Miami and New Jersey. They're not the same team without Artest and can't acquire anyone who replicates what he did in his lucid moments.

The prudent course, then, is patience. Right up to the Feb. 23 trading deadline if necessary.

The Pacers aren't delusional enough to believe that waiting will eventually bring them equal value for Artest's talents. That's not going to happen under any circumstances, because of his wild side. The goal, though, should be (and is) to make a deal that works best for the reshaping of Indy's future.

That translates to an avoidance of long-term contracts, like Wally Szczerbiak's in Minnesota, and free agents who would be costly to re-sign, such as Denver's Nene and Atlanta's Al Harrington.

B) The frontrunners for actually landing Artest, according to NBA front-office sources, continue to be Golden State and the back-in-it L.A. Clippers.

Indy's Larry Bird has made it clear he prefers a one-to-one trade and the Warriors and Clips are the teams best stocked to complete such a deal . . . unless Memphis, as mentioned many times before, unexpectedly consents to part with Shane Battier.

However . . .

As stated in this cyberspace back in 2005 -- and as the Warriors have re-iterated to the Pacers more than once -- rookie power forward Ike Diogu is an untouchable. Troy Murphy remains a possibility, but both Golden State and Indy would have some reluctance to build a deal around the power forward because the Warriors still like him and because Murphy's five remaining years at $51 million is worrisome for the tax-fearing Pacers.

Which brings us to a package headlined by Mike Dunleavy and Mickael Pietrus.

Enough for the Pacers? You wouldn't think so, especially since Dunleavy has a new long-term deal of his own and doesn't fill the Pacers' on-court needs nearly as well as Murphy. Sources close to the situation, furthermore, suggest that Mullin -- a proven gambler (see Baron Davis) and known Artest fan (who shares St. John's as an alma mater) -- is equally intrigued by the idea of keeping his young core together now that Pietrus is finally healthy enough to rejoin this teetering club.

That must be why multiple suitors who've chased Artest from the start are suddenly calling L.A. "the team." Yet that would almost certainly require the inclusion of Corey Maggette, which the Clippers have steadfastly resisted.

Have they reconsidered?

There is a growing belief around the league that they have, with the Clips' 14-5 start a memory and Mike Dunleavy Sr. perfectly willing to coach the game's foremost problem child. Remember what Dunleavy said in our recent package on the Clippers, before Artest's trade demand was issued: "Give me talent, I'll figure out how to make 'em happy."

Of course, if Maggette were on the table, you'd think we'd be busy breaking down a trade instead of waiting breathlessly for something to dissect. Maggette's left foot, instead, is in a cast with a ligament problem that could keep him sidelined another month. An uncertain recovery timetable, with an injury originally believed to be minor, would figure to give the Pacers some pause even if Donald Sterling is ready to part with one of the only three Clippers he has ever guaranteed long-term millions.

C) Minnesota, Denver and the L.A. Lakers haven't lost interest in Artest but still share the same shortcoming. None of those clubs appears to have the pieces to tempt the Pacers without pulling in a third or fourth team, which Bird, as stated, hopes to avoid.

None of those teams have pulled out of the derby. Yet the Nuggets, for example, have begun to explore their non-Artest trade possibilities, much as they'd love to get a call back from the Pacers and encouragement to refresh their bid.

Not that there is much of an Artest-free world out there, apart from certain chat rooms. The theory that every other trade in this league is being held up by a Ron-Ron deal looks more scientific with each passing day.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dailydime-060111

[Super_Ludacris]

27 and 5?


yeah and San Antonio is coming up on Tommorrow

[DarthRekal]

theres not a team i hate more than the san antonio STERNS... whoop that A$$ luda!:up:

[NOFX]

theres not a team i hate more than the san antonio STERNS... whoop that A$$ luda!:up:
"San Anotonio Sterns?" I dont get it:confused:

[DarthRekal]

the spurs...you ever notice the calls...seem to go the SPURS way????:confused:

[Alpha and Omega]

the spurs...you ever notice the calls...seem to go the SPURS way????:confused:

that's been happening for years.

[DarthRekal]

that's been happening for years.

exactly ...thats why they are called the STERNS..cause they are sponsored by the commissioner:down

[NOFX]

the spurs...you ever notice the calls...seem to go the SPURS way????:confused:
I completly disagree:o Why would Stern want a small market like San Antonio keep winning championships? No one cares about the Spurs other then us Basketball fanatics. Thats why Lakers, Heat, etc...Always get more attenton than the spurs.:o

[Super_Ludacris]

Exactly, Hell Stern is probably behind NYK's 4 game win streak

[Alpha and Omega]

I completly disagree:o Why would Stern want a small market like San Antonio keep winning championships? No one cares about the Spurs other then us Basketball fanatics. Thats why Lakers, Heat, etc...Always get more attenton than the spurs.:o

Texas isn't a small market. It's not like LA, NY, MIA, or CHI-town, but their are a lot of people who like b-ball in TX.

[DarthRekal]

think again the heat and lakers get all the air time.... but they are FAR from model citizens...the dress code ....the appearance...who does he want representing the NBA????

[Alpha and Omega]

Stern is oblivious to what is better for the NBA. He supports the league as a business.

[NOFX]

Stern is oblivious to what is better for the NBA. He supports the league as a business.
True which is why the Lakers and Heat get the national attention but not only do they sell seats, they get ratings as well!!! You cant say that about the spurs:o

[NOFX]

think again the heat and lakers get all the air time.... but they are FAR from model citizens...the dress code ....the appearance...who does he want representing the NBA????
Stern wants the teams that sells which is Lakers, Heat, Cavs, and even the Rockets. Why do you think Ming gets all this attention??? Its not because he's a great center because there are over a billion potential customers in China:eek:

[DarthRekal]

you fail to see the point...attention is one thing...shoot why do you think artest was suspended all last season...the pacers are a force with him..and he wanted artest to be forgotten..if artest made it to the finals last year how would that look?????:confused:

ask the pistons...i feel they got jobbed in the finals last year...


LUDA!????

[Super_Ludacris]

'Sheed will get "Roscoe" back before the end of June 2006!

[DarthRekal]

there ya go!....

[Alpha and Omega]

True which is why the Lakers and Heat get the national attention but not only do they sell seats, they get ratings as well!!! You cant say that about the spurs:o

The Lakers and the Heat are shrouded in hype. The Spurs play the best basketball in the Western Conference. I don't care about their ratings. I would rather watch them.

[DarthRekal]

let the record show the lakers get more national spots then the heat :up: ......


that is all

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Top 5 Players in the NBA right NOW according to you!

5) James- Once this kid steps his game up on the defensive end watch out
4) Nash- Yes Nash, people doubting him last year saying amare was the reason, where is Amare and where are the Suns now?
3) Garnett- This may seem odd to most but look at the kids stats hes all alone
2) Duncan- Always in the top 5
1) Kobe- the way he is playing right now how can you argue with that?

[Super_Ludacris]

I think Chauncey Billups is neck and neck with Steve Nash for the best PG in the league. Stats aside

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I'm not arguing against you, but you have to admit Billups has a lot more to work with.

[Super_Ludacris]

Just 4 other people, who really weren't super athletic established superstars when there careers started in the way Marion and Stoudamire were (and I've followed STAT and the Matrix's careers)

[DarthRekal]

5)KG..

4)Duncan-- i hate the cat but dude is as solid as they come

3)woulda plugged in artest here but ..BAH!... gotta go Lebron

2)Elton Brand-- right now...he's just a monster!:eek:

1)The DAGGER!.... or his new nickname...KOB 45!.....he's just killen em:up:

[NOFX]

2)Elton Brand-- right now...he's just a monster!:eek:
:up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Damn you Warriors!

[Equint77]

Nice win last night. They hit thier free throws and found a way to win.

They're no longer in the gutter.

[Alpha and Omega]

KG just collected his 500th double double. I hope he's traded to a better team. He's a great player, and I hope he has the chance to seriously compete for a ring again.

[Equint77]

I doubt KG's going anywhere.....

the Knicks have what Minny wants.. expiring contracts and Garnett's said early this year he'd love to play with Steph again.. It's all a pipe dream for Knick fans or anyone else hoping Garnett plays for them but at this point anything's possible.

[Alpha and Omega]

What if KG ended up in LA? There have been trade rumours, and it's a distinct possibility.

[Equint77]

I don't think LA has the players or the contracts Minny would want in return.

I mean who would Minny accept outside of Kobe or maybe package Odom and a boat load of Lakers?

[Alpha and Omega]

Isn't Garnett an unrestricted free agent after this season?

[Equint77]

Isn't Garnett an unrestricted free agent after this season?

nope.. he has another 3 years on his contract I think. I'm gonna check hoopshype.com to make sure.

[Alpha and Omega]

nope.. he has another 3 years on his contract I think. I'm gonna check hoopshype.com to make sure.

He has two more years left. He signed a five year ext. in '03. Yeah, he's in MN for right now, but when '08 comes, he might test the free agent waters.

[blahah]

Nate Robinson might compete in this years dunk contest. That would be something to see.

"It's not official, but New York Knicks rookie Nate Robinson, the former Washington Husky, is expected to compete in the dunk contest in next month's All-Star Game in Houston. At 5-9, he would be the event's shortest competitor since Spud Webb won the title several years ago."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002730528_soniglance10.html

one of his dunks during summer league:

http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/gameday/robinson_dunk.html

[Equint77]

I was hoping Nate would be signed up for the contest.... I've seen his college highlights... and in Summer League too.

He'll bring some excitement to what used to be the best event outside of the all star game.

I'm hoping David Lee plays the rookies Vs. Sophmore games too. That'll be great to have all 3 Knick rookies at all star weekend.

Channing Frye for ROY!

[NOFX]

I was hoping Nate would be signed up for the contest.... I've seen his college highlights... and in Summer League too.

He'll bring some excitement to what used to be the best event outside of the all star game.

I remember someone on the hype gave me a link to a Nate Dunk in the preseason:eek: Damn that kid can fly!!! I cant wait to see him in the drunk contest:up:

[Super_Ludacris]

He should enter, he got them Stevie Franchise lil' man hops

[NOFX]

What if KG ended up in LA? There have been trade rumours, and it's a distinct possibility.
Most likely to clippers than the lakers but I'd rather have Brand than Garnett right now:o

[Alpha and Omega]

He should enter, he got them Stevie Franchise lil' man hops

He should. Dunks look better when a person is shorter. They are able to display a full circle of motion.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Robsin will hop out of the damn building!

[Equint77]

I love Nate.... I'm glad the Knicks drafted him... the Garden went crazy last night when he won the jump ball over Devon Harris

[Assassin]

looks like pistons beat spurs

[Unthinkable]

By 15 too, in San Antonio. Good job Detroit. :up:

[Alpha and Omega]

looks like pistons beat spurs

The Pistons are the fav this year, and I hope they do it. Last year's game seven was heartbreaking to watch, and I'm not even a Piston's fan.

[Assassin]

wasnt superludacris a lakers fan last year? now he reps the d..

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

looks like pistons beat spurs

Did manu play? I don't think he did, did he? Not saying that it would matter, but he is still out right?

[blahah]

manu played and did pretty good

[Equint77]

wasnt superludacris a lakers fan last year? now he reps the d..

I hate bandwagoners. :down :down

[DarthRekal]

Lakers Fan since 76...right here!:up:


KObe killin em yesterday...!:eek:

[Alpha and Omega]

KObe killin em yesterday...!

Yep!!

I hate bandwagoners.

Bandwagoners suck, esp. if they start blasting the team they were rooting for the previous year. My team is LA. Sure, now were an average team, but did anyone see our 1pt victory over Clevand? Kobe injured his wrist for a minute, and that could've been the season.:eek:

Haha. Listen to me. I sound like my team actually has postseason hopes, but no matter, we still have a chance, though it is very slim. A win in the first playoff round is progress.

[Super_Ludacris]

wasnt superludacris a lakers fan last year? now he reps the d..

When the **** was I ever a Lakers fan you fart fountain of misinformation? Don't ever call me that.:mad: :) :mad:

[Equint77]

Yep!!



Bandwagoners suck, esp. if they start blasting the team they were rooting for the previous year. My team is LA. Sure, now were an average team, but did anyone see our 1pt victory over Clevand? Kobe injured his wrist for a minute, and that could've been the season.:eek:

Haha. Listen to me. I sound like my team actually has postseason hopes, but no matter, we still have a chance, though it is very slim. A win in the first playoff round is progress.

everyone that knows me knows I'm a Knicks fan and I used to laugh at people who used to call me a bandwagoner when they were winning... last century. :(

I'm happy they're winning again and hope it continues... the city wants to cheer for them. I know I do. Hell I can only hope it doesn't get worse than 2-12. :(

I'm far from a Laker fan Omega but I respect you for sticking to your team. :up: :up:

[Alpha and Omega]

everyone that knows me knows I'm a Knicks fan and I used to laugh at people who used to call me a bandwagoner when they were winning... last century. :(

I'm happy they're winning again and hope it continues... the city wants to cheer for them. I know I do. Hell I can only hope it doesn't get worse than 2-12. :(

I'm far from a Laker fan Omega but I respect you for sticking to your team. :up: :up:

Thanks. The fake fans and obnoxious dissenters left LA after the Kobe troubles, but if we start to win again: Those suckers will come right back:down, and don't worry, Larry Brown will turn New York's team around. He teaches excellent defensive skills, and that's the most valuable part of a team. In the NBA defense determines who plays in the late spring/early summer.:)

[Super_Ludacris]

I hate bandwagoners. :down :down


Actually this is how my bandwagon goes

94-99: Orlando Magic
99-???:Phoenix Suns (Cause Penny went there and Shawn Marion. Plus I liked Amare and Steph:o )
00-04: Orlando Magic (T-Mac)
02-???: Detroit Pistons (I was a Ben Wallace fan when he was in Orlando and kinda carried on watching him to this day and loved the way the Pistons play)

I've been watching the NBA for years and I'm not into that whole rep a team thing. I just love the game of basketball period and certain players (Penny, AI, Steph, Dajuanny Wags,T-Mac,Detriot starting 5, Amare, Matrix etc). **** supporting one team. If your from that town then cool but that's not me.

But to me a bandwagonner is a dude who supports and dickrydes the household popular teams like the Lakers and Bulls when they were winning.And even there you gotta respect those teams because they made history still, it's just there fans were on some bull****
I'm objectivley fair and know when my favourite players **** up (although I supported Penny for the longest :( ).
I just love the game watching and playing it and at the end of the day that's more fun. You might see my rock a Mac Avy or a Detroit Avy or maybe a Allen Iverson one. I'm indifferent over it

[Equint77]

Thanks. The fake fans and obnoxious dissenters left LA after the Kobe troubles, but if we start to win again: Those suckers will come right back:down, and don't worry, Larry Brown will turn New York's team around. He teaches excellent defensive skills, and that's the most valuable part of a team. In the NBA defense determines who plays in the late spring/early summer.:)

thanks man. :up: :up:

You guys are doing well... it's not easy turning a team around (I know :D) but you guys have Phil back and if Bynum starts to get consistant playing time, he can be a huge lift in the next few years.

Good luck on the rest of the season Omega. :up: :up:

[Super_Ludacris]

The Kobe dyckryders are back since he been on this 40 point streak.

[Equint77]

Actually this is how my bandwagon goes

94-99: Orlando Magic
99-???:Phoenix Suns (Cause Penny went there and Shawn Marion. Plus I liked Amare and Steph:o )
00-04: Orlando Magic (T-Mac)
02-???: Detroit Pistons (I was a Ben Wallace fan when he was in Orlando and kinda carried on watching him to this day and loved the way the Pistons play)

I've been watching the NBA for years and I'm not into that whole rep a team thing. I just love the game of basketball period and certain players (Penny, AI, Steph, Dajuanny Wags,T-Mac,Detriot starting 5, Amare, Matrix etc). **** supporting one team. If your from that town then cool but that's not me.

But to me a bandwagonner is a dude who supports and dickrydes the household popular teams like the Lakers and Bulls when they were winning.And even there you gotta respect those teams because they made history still, it's just there fans were on some bull****
I'm objectivley fair and know when my favourite players **** up (although I supported Penny for the longest :( ).
I just love the game watching and playing it and at the end of the day that's more fun. You might see my rock a Mac Avy or a Detroit Avy or maybe a Allen Iverson one. I'm indifferent over it

I can understand that.. you follow players more than teams.. that's cool. I do the same thing as well with Wade and Lebron, those 2 I can watch play all day.... except when they play the Knicks.

I remember being a Bulls fan back in 91 only cause I made a bet during the Finals. By 92 I woke up and now live and die with the Knicks. I can't see myself not ever being a Knick fan. I'm stuck. :D

[Alpha and Omega]

The Kobe dyckryders are back since he been on this 40 point streak.

Stop being a hater. The guy is a phenomenal player. His personal life is his own business.

[Super_Ludacris]

Yeah I was like that for Orlando for the longest.I still follow them, it's just that now I don't get stressed when they lose and watch all the little transactions

Life is so much stress free now :)

[Equint77]

Yeah I was like that for Orlando for the longest.I still follow them, it's just that now I don't get stressed when they lose and watch all the little transactions

Life is so much stress free now :)

you're lucky..... :up: :up:

[Alpha and Omega]

Yeah I was like that for Orlando for the longest.I still follow them, it's just that now I don't get stressed when they lose and watch all the little transactions

Life is so much stress free now :)

If you were an Orlando fan, I bet you were stressed. Penny Hardaway was a great player, but he was one of the most injury-prone people I've ever seen!

I used to love those lil' Penny commercials he did for Sprite though.:up:

[Super_Ludacris]

Stop being a hater. The guy is a phenomenal player. His personal life is his own business.

I'm not. Reading is fundamental, the same dyckryders that you didn't like jocking your team are back is what I meant. Just go to any NBA forum of conversation on or offline.Straight dissmissing the next swingman who puts in work

But you are correct his personal life is his own business.Even if he abuses white poosay

[Super_Ludacris]

If you were an Orlando fan, I bet you were stressed. Penny Hardaway was a great player, but he was one of the most injury-prone people I've ever seen!

I used to love those lil' Penny commercials he did for sprite though.:up:

Ironically what made me hate the team was how blind the other orlando fans were. It's so easy to blame the superstar (Shaq, T-Mac, Penny) but when the track record builds up you know it's the management fault. I guess it's expected the team grew up quick (NBA Finals after 6 seasons of existence) and couldn't handle being normal again. I hate how they make all superstars the scape goat when it really aint there fault. Even our blue collar players left on bad terms like Ben Wallace, Rony Seikaly and Darell "Flash" Armstrong:(
Go Figure though we give Grant Hill chance though

[Alpha and Omega]

But you are correct his personal life is his own business.Even if he abuses white poosay

He's not the only one. Jerry Stackhouse was convicted of sexual assault while the Kobe trial was ongoing. There never was a peep about that, and Stackhouse settled out of court. Perhaps there was less media attention for Stackhouse because he wasn't the Star that Kobe was, but he did some shady things. Again, that's their business, even if it is a grimey one at that.

A lot of these players are out of control, but it's their life, and they're rich. That seems to determine credibility these days.

[Super_Ludacris]

Well Stack didn't snitch his teammates out when being questioned, but Stack is a ***** too, that peanut head ***** sabotage what MJ was trying to do with Washington during the 2002-2003 by dividing the locker room. He never liked MJ since the days the use to play pick up games in the offseason at UNC

[Equint77]

Well Stack didn't snitch his teammates out when being questioned, but Stack is a ***** too, that peanut head ***** sabotage what MJ was trying to do with Washington during the 2002-2003 by dividing the locker room. He never liked MJ since the days the use to play pick up games in the offseason at UNC

ha ha

[Super_Ludacris]

He is though! lol

[Equint77]

you can't really blame Stackhouse for the problems in Washington.. it was pretty much Jordan's fault...

trading away RIP.... drafting Kwame.... then coming back and playing only to demean the team cause they didn't meet his standards... and it was basically the roster he assembled.

I'm amazed Grunfeld has turned that team around... when he was Knicks president he was pretty inept... except when they got Sprewell

[Lobo]

Tonight will make 6 in a row ;)

Accoirding to Peter vecsey Aretest will be traded to the Clips for Maggette within the next week :/

[Equint77]

Tonight will make 6 in a row ;)

Accoirding to Peter vecsey Aretest will be traded to the Clips for Maggette within the next week :/

that's wild... Artest in LA... he'll be on trial for murder before his contract expires... you can book it.

by the way Lobo.. don't jinx us. :(
Let's take it one game at a time... :up: :up: :)

[DarthRekal]

NOBODY's a kobe Dyckryda..watch yer mouth luda..i always respected you!....... i really dont like kobe..but he wears the purple and gold armor..so i gotta support him....he cost us more ships..... wasnt all his fault..but hey now i earned the right to boast when we win a GAME..cause i aint gonna have nothing to boast about for a while....

nobodies a bandwagoner here....:down


as far as artest vescey is a knuckelhead dont believe that trade..ITS dead..maggette needs to have season ending surgery... artest is not going to the clips now..thats for sure:( ..i woulda loved to see him in LA too ..frankly he would be dope on the lakes..but the clips woulda been instant contenders...:eek: ...guess thats how it goes though

[DarthRekal]

oh and equint.... i really like your guys drafting!:up: ..as soon as you guys get rid of those HIDEOUS contracts yall be straight..channing frye is AMAZING!

[Equint77]

oh and equint.... i really like your guys drafting!:up: ..as soon as you guys get rid of those HIDEOUS contracts yall be straight..channing frye is AMAZING!

Thanks Darth :up: :up:

A lot of Knick fans were complaining about Frye before he got drafted and ever afterwards without giving the guy a chance. Now he's like the second best rookie....and I think he'd probably be top rookie if he started and got 30 minutes a night. I'm sooo proud of Nate for adjusting to Larry Brown and the NBA game. And David Lee is great hustle player. I'm hoping Zeke re-signs Trevor Ariza this summer cause he's also a nice player.

There's a bit of light at the end of the tunnel for us... I'm just happy for the team getting a little bit of success.. they've earned it.

[Alpha and Omega]

Tonight will make 6 in a row ;)

Accoirding to Peter vecsey Aretest will be traded to the Clips for Maggette within the next week :/

If the Clipper's can adjust to having Artest in the line-up, their team has just become a legitimate Western Conference contender.

[DarthRekal]

yeah dude in the offseason there were whispers we were gettin ariza..i was stoked...he is nice.... with young cats and lb behind the wheel theres always hope....:up:


hopefully the league has a say and we get an LA v NY finals one year!:eek:

[DarthRekal]

If the Clipper's can adjust to having Artest in the line-up, their team has just become a legitimate Western Conference contender.

alpha read my post the cant get artest now...maggette is done:(

[Alpha and Omega]

alpha read my post the cant get artest now...maggette is done:(

Oops. Well now, Larry Bird and the Pacer's front office certainly aren't going to trade Artest for dead weight. Other teams are still in contention, unless Vecsey is correct, and the Pacers are planning for next year.

[Equint77]

yeah dude in the offseason there were whispers we were gettin ariza..i was stoked...he is nice.... with young cats and lb behind the wheel theres always hope....:up:


hopefully the league has a say and we get an LA v NY finals one year!:eek:

lol.. if that were ever to happen.. David Stern's pants would explode... the media coverage would be ridiculous. :D

I kinda wish both teams were peaking at the same time... Phil Vs. Larry. NY Vs LA. Damn Darth... you're killing me with this cause now I wish it would happen. :D

[DarthRekal]

lol.. if that were ever to happen.. David Stern's pants would explode... the media coverage would be ridiculous. :D

I kinda wish both teams were peaking at the same time... Phil Vs. Larry. NY Vs LA. Damn Darth... you're killing me with this cause now I wish it would happen. :D

dude thats been my daydream since larry went to NY and phil came back.... alas it may be only a dream...:(

[Alpha and Omega]

If NY played LA, the NBA east coast/west coast rivalry that occurred during the Bird/Magic era would happen.

Maybe the games wouldn't be that great, but the hype surrounding them would boost the league.

Imagine this: 7 game series, LA vs NY, title on the line, what else is there to say?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

If NY played LA, the NBA east coast/west coast rivalry that occurred during the Bird/Magic era would happen.

Maybe the games wouldn't be that great, but the hype surrounding them would boost the league.

Imagine this: 7 game series, LA vs NY, title on the line, what else is there to say?

You are talking about in the plyayoffs right? Because no one gives a damn if they play each other during the regular season right now.

[Alpha and Omega]

You are talking about in the plyayoffs right? Because no one gives a damn if they play each other during the regular season right now.

a game seven series implies the postseason, the championship actually, since they're in opposite conferences.

[blahah]

unless Vecsey is correct

haha, and everyone knows how accurate any info from peter vecsey is. and chad ford.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

a game seven series implies the postseason, the championship actually, since they're in opposite conferences.

Just making sure, but NY isn't making it anywhere near that far this year, nor is LA

[Alpha and Omega]

Just making sure, but NY isn't making it anywhere near that far this year, nor is LA

You're crazy. LA is going to playoffs.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif . . . well I hope. We need to. At least that is a step up from last year.

[NOFX]

lol.. if that were ever to happen.. David Stern's pants would explode... the media coverage would be ridiculous. :D

I kinda wish both teams were peaking at the same time... Phil Vs. Larry. NY Vs LA. Damn Darth... you're killing me with this cause now I wish it would happen. :D
I would Kill Equint, JLbats, Sarge, Wilhelm, and Mr. Smash Bros, for that tooo happen!!!:cool:

[NOFX]

It would also be great to see both L.A. Teams in the playoffs:up:

[NOFX]

The much-discussed trade that would send wayward forward Ron Artest from Indiana to Los Angeles for Clippers swingman Corey Maggette, which moved suddenly toward completion this week after initial resistance from L.A., has fizzled.

NBA front-office sources told ESPN.com on Thursday that the Pacers have abandoned their interest in Maggette because of concerns with his troublesome left foot.

The Clippers, sources said, will have to wait up to a month for the removal of Maggette's cast just to determine if the 26-year-old can be reactivated this season -- or if an ongoing ligament problem will require season-ending surgery that places a screw in Maggette's foot. Indiana, as a result, has elected not to pursue the deal, even though Maggette -- a rugged scorer known for getting to the free-throw line -- had been near the top of its wish list since the Pacers decided last month that they would honor Artest's public request to be traded.

Other interested teams
ESPN.com NBA Insider Chris Sheridan revealed in his Friday afternoon chat that he is hearing that the Rockets are now involved in the Ron Artest Sweepstakes. The Rockets - who don't have anything outside of Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady that interests the Pacers - are trying to find a player that Indiana does like. The end result would be a three-or-four-way trade that would bring Artest to Houston.

Denver, Minnesota and the Los Angeles Lakers are also among the clubs to express strong interest in the unpredictable Artest, but sources maintain those teams, like Houston, would need the help of a third or fourth team to assemble a package the Pacers like.
ESPN.com reported Wednesday that the Golden State Warriors, along with the Clippers, were the frontrunners in the Artest sweepstakes, which will soon stretch into a sixth week. The latest Maggette development theoretically enhances Golden State's chances, but the Pacers covet power forward Ike Diogu and the Warriors consider the bruising rookie an untouchable.

The Clippers initially resisted Indiana's insistence on Maggette but relented after a 14-5 start faded into a prolonged slump. L.A. and Golden State emerged as strong Artest contenders with Indiana president Larry Bird preferring to make a trade with one team as opposed to a multi-team deal.

The Warriors can build a trade package around another power forward -- Troy Murphy -- if Diogu remains off limits, but Indiana's luxury-tax concerns and the $51 million over five years left on Murphy's contract make it a questionable fit. Warriors swingmen Mike Dunleavy and Mickael Pietrus have also been mentioned as possibilities.

The Pacers have six weeks left before the Feb. 23 trading deadline to find a deal they like. Artest, who has played in just 23 regular-season games since winning the NBA's Defensive Player of the Year award for the 2003-04 season, was placed on Indiana's inactive list (with pay) after telling The Indianapolis Star on Dec. 10 that he wants a trade.

After telling the newspaper that he wanted a fresh start away from the restrictions of coach Rick Carlisle's system and the memories of last season's 73-game suspension, Artest later withdrew the trade request. The Pacers, though, have maintained from the start that they would not consider a reconciliation and plan to keep Artest inactive until they can move him.

Asked if Pacers players were open to giving Artest another chance, star center Jermaine O'Neal told ESPN.com earlier this month: "I like Ron as a person. I care about him as a person. I don't think there's any bad feelings between us, but he understands my position. I went to bat for him [last season] just like I'm going to bat for this team now. We took a vote and every player said they prefer to move on. I've got to back the team and that's something I told him. It's not just me. That's a bridge you cannot cross, when you start talking about playing with other players and playing for other teams."

After practice Thursday, when asked about the possibility of acquiring Maggette, O'Neal said: "I really don't want to comment about it. He's hurting and is going to have about six more weeks off. I would prefer to have somebody who could play right away, but I don't run the team. I just play the game and know that [Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh] and those guys will make a decision over what's best for the team.''

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

You're crazy. LA is going to playoffs.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif . . . well I hope. We need to. At least that is a step up from last year.

I meant the championship not just the playoffs, but I don't think they will make it in either, MAYBE as the 8 seed but thats maybe.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Golden State is now below .500 :(

[Alpha and Omega]

Golden State is overrated. Maybe J Rich will come to LA, and maybe we'll take him if he works on his fg pct.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Golden State is overrated. Maybe J Rich will come to LA, and maybe we'll take him if he works on his fg pct.

How is Golden State overrated? They've been in the cellar for more than a decade? They are NOT overrated, people are just optimisitc about them this year with right to be, for the first time in 12 years they MIGHT make the playoffs, they are NOT overrated.

The Heat are overrated, too much talent on a that team, they were a better team last year with both Jones'.

[Alpha and Omega]

How is Golden State overrated? They've been in the cellar for more than a decade? They are NOT overrated, people are just optimisitc about them this year with right to be, for the first time in 12 years they MIGHT make the playoffs, they are NOT overrated.

The Heat are overrated, too much talent on a that team, they were a better team last year with both Jones'.

edit: overestimated.:up: :)

The Miami Heat are a distant second to the Pistons and the Pacers' season was ruined by Ron Artest.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

edit: overestimated.:up: :)

The Miami Heat are a distant second to the Pistons and the Pacers' season was ruined by Ron Artest.

Sounds good :)

A VERY distant second :up:

[Super_Ludacris]

NOBODY's a kobe Dyckryda..watch yer mouth luda..i always respected you!....... i really dont like kobe..but he wears the purple and gold armor..so i gotta support him....he cost us more ships..... wasnt all his fault..but hey now i earned the right to boast when we win a GAME..cause i aint gonna have nothing to boast about for a while....


Again reading is fundamental negro. I said the Kobe Dyckriders are coming out and you can see them on other forums here and offline. Go to sohh or Allhiphop or hoopsboards

[blahah]

i find this quote from kobe somewhat amsuing...

Kobe Bryant practiced with a protective brace on his sprained right wrist on Friday, but is expected to play on Saturday. "Thank God I'm a tough guy," Bryant told the Los Angeles Times. "It's a physical game and I enjoy it, actually. It's the same types of battles I used to have with my Pops in the driveway where Pops used to beat the hell out of me – elbows, slapping me and holding me. That got me ready for this type of game to the point where I actually started enjoying the beating that he was giving me. He didn't beat me with a belt. He beat me with elbows."

[Alpha and Omega]

Again reading is fundamental negro. I said the Kobe Dyckriders are coming out and you can see them on other forums here and offline. Go to sohh or Allhiphop or hoopsboards

hahahaha. you said negro.:mad: :down :( :confused: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif :up: :)

[Alpha and Omega]

It would also be great to see both L.A. Teams in the playoffs:up:

The Clippers will probably go. I my team goes too.

[Super_Ludacris]

hahahaha. you said negro.:mad: :down :( :confused: :up: :)

I'm not white:o

[Alpha and Omega]

I'm not white:o

I KNOW!! I still think it's funny. I don't care what race you are. I'm colorblind.:up: :)

[NOFX]

2005-06 Power Rankings: Week 11
RANK (LAST WK) TEAM REC. COMMENT
1 (1) Pistons 29-5 Only thing left for Pistons to prove now, after spanking Spurs again, is that their iron-man starting five can stay healthy for the rest of the season.
2 (2) Spurs 28-9 The real scares? Detroit's board domination in the two games (113-62) and fears that Duncan's mobility won't get any better until he gets offseason rest.
3 (3) Mavericks 27-10 Judging by the win margin in Game 1 after the big demotion in Big D -- 33 points over Jersey -- Mavs players were as fed up with Dampier's lethargy as their fans.
4 (5) Suns 24-12 If you want to beat these guys these days, take them to triple overtime. Suns' only two losses in the past 11 games came in three OTs (Knicks and Nuggets).
5 (6) Grizzlies 23-12 Not sure if it's Kobe's elbow or trade rumors, but Miller has been sparked into some monster numbers lately for a Grizz group on pace to win a whopping 54.
6 (9) Heat 23-15 With the focus on Artest, Francis and Pistons v. Spurs/Kobe v. LeBron, Heat quietly assembled their best week all season, capped by the win at red-hot Utah.
7 (8) Pacers 20-15 Pacers are 10-6 against the West and getting Stephen Jackson's best without Artest: 20-plus points in six of his past seven games -- after just four previously all season.
8 (10) Jazz 19-18 The way Jazz are flowing, on an 8-1 run until Saturday's home setback to Miami, perhaps it's better that Boozer needs more time before making his comeback.
9 (4) Nets 19-15 Three straight losses to bring a thudding end to their hot streak, all without Jefferson, reconfirm that two out of three of their stars ain't enough for Nets.
10 (12) Lakers 20-17 Kobe's critics have quieted down because now he's racking up wins, too. But why should he shoot less when Lakers are 0-7 when Odom takes 15 or more shots?
11 (7) Cavaliers 20-15 The last time Hughes played, Cavs beat Detroit. Without him, Cavs posted an 0-4 week with a bad home loss to Knicks and three discouraging road near-misses.
12 (11) Bucks 19-16 It's gotten to the (worrying) point that Bucks are winning only the close ones. They're up to 9-0 in games decided by three points or fewer, but mired in a 4-7 funk overall.
13 (13) Clippers 19-14 As if the evaporation of their darling status wasn't sufficiently problematic, Clips (mainly their coach) have to mend fences with Maggette after the near-trade to Indy.
14 (15) Nuggets 19-19 It might not be enough to get him to the All-Star Game in a crowded West frontcourt, but 'Melo's ongoing surge has Camby-less Nuggets at a healthy 5-2 in 2006.
15 (16) 76ers 18-18 One more shot from Iverson on Dec. 18 and he'd have broken Rick Barry's record for most consecutive games to start a season with at least 20 shots: 35 in 1974-75.
16 (17) Hornets 17-19 I don't know if it was the prudent course, but C-Paul's speedy return from torn thumb ligaments -- after sitting out just one game -- will only spawn more ROY fawning.
17 (18) Timberwolves 17-17 Call them our anti-Bucks. Wolves have clawed back to .500, but they're a demoralizing 0-5 in games decided by three points or fewer.
18 (20) Wizards 16-19 The lineup shakeup of the under-fire Jordan seems to be working. But before anyone gets too carried away, remember that two of those three wins came against Atlanta.
19 (19) Raptors 13-24 Didn't really expect Raps to make it two straight weeks in the teens. But they have -- helped by this week's upbeat words from Bosh about sticking around.
20 (14) Warriors 17-19 The way they're sliding now, with the team's effort perhaps waning as well, Montgomery is in trouble whether or not Warriors can complete an Artest deal.
21 (25) Knicks 13-22 After a rough 2005, the new year is going so well that even the famously pessimistic Larry Brown has to smile. Wins over Suns, Cavs and Mavs will do that.
22 (21) Bulls 15-21 All the fuss about Gordon's role (starting or sixth man?) and future (on the block or not?) has spared Chandler from a national inquest into his anemic production.
23 (23) Kings 15-21 Kings used to be virtually automatic at home. The norm at Arco now is giving up 100 points, which, for the first time since '93, has happened in 10 straight home dates.
24 (29) Trail Blazers 13-24 Don't like to nitpick after three straight wins, but Portland is still just 8-4 when Zach scores 20. Which means Zach hasn't had a 20-point game since 2005. Why?
25 (26) Celtics 14-22 If you like speculation above all else, this is your team. Because now, on top of the never-ending Pierce chatter, calls for a coaching change are a constant, too.
26 (24) SuperSonics 15-22 If Sonics don't have Ray Allen in uniform -- or Jesus Shuttlesworth -- let's face it. Probably doesn't matter who the coach is in those circumstances.
27 (22) Magic 13-22 As more than one Magic fan has reminded me in the wake of the Francis suspension, the locals don't refer to this franchise as the Orlando Tragic without good cause.
28 (30) Bobcats 11-26 When you miss eight games, then reaggravate your ankle injury in your first game back like Okafor did, you will find it hard to hush the sophomore jinx talk.
29 (27) Rockets 12-23 It doesn't show in the standings, with Rockets now 0-13 in games McGrady misses or can't finish, but Juwan has averaged a game 25 and 12 since T-Mac's latest setback.
30 (28) Hawks 9-26 Only one team has fewer than 10 victories and this is it. But here's a surprise: Hawks were somehow leading the league in 3-point percentage until this week.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Man my Warriors are killing me right now, I don't even care...well I do care but I want them to at least finish above .500, if they miss the playoffs it would be nice to see them finish with a winning record.

[Alpha and Omega]

LA defeated Miami so I'm happy. Our team D is improving.

[DarthRekal]

LA defeated Miami so I'm happy. Our team D is improving.




BYnum..just posterized SHAQ!:eek: :up: :eek: :)



kobe is just ice cold!:marv:


and lamar...what a clutch shot!:thing:

[Guy Gardner]

BYnum..just posterized SHAQ!:eek: :up: :eek: :)



kobe is just ice cold!:marv:


and lamar...what a clutch shot!:thing:
Is Bynum actually any good? I'm just curious because I tend not to see Laker games living on the East Coast (that and I'm a passing Celtics fan) and I'm interested if he's living up to the hype he gave himself coming out of the draft.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Anyone think Lebron's defense will be on the level of his offense one day?

[DarthRekal]

Is Bynum actually any good? I'm just curious because I tend not to see Laker games living on the East Coast (that and I'm a passing Celtics fan) and I'm interested if he's living up to the hype he gave himself coming out of the draft.

his confidence and his footwork are phenomonal!:eek: .... he's still a work in progress..but he is coming along FASTER than expected....he's almost in nba form...he just needs playing time..and phil isnt giving it to him:mad: ...

but dude has everything in place to be the next GREAT big man....keep an eye on him:up:

[DarthRekal]

Anyone think Lebron's defense will be on the level of his offense one day?

defense is 90% mental....and cat has skills...trust...i say he'll get there sooner than expected..

[Guy Gardner]

his confidence and his footwork are phenomonal!:eek: .... he's still a work in progress..but he is coming along FASTER than expected....he's almost in nba form...he just needs playing time..and phil isnt giving it to him:mad: ...

but dude has everything in place to be the next GREAT big man....keep an eye on him:up:
Just for comparisons sake, again remembering I haven't seen him play; and I'm going out on a limb that you've seen this man play, but how would he stack up to Al Jefferson?

[Alpha and Omega]

Is Bynum actually any good? I'm just curious because I tend not to see Laker games living on the East Coast (that and I'm a passing Celtics fan) and I'm interested if he's living up to the hype he gave himself coming out of the draft.

He's only 18, and in 3 or 4 years he has the potential to dominate the paint. W/ a mature vet like Kobe, Phil's philosophy, and the right supporting cast, they could become a contender sooner than later.:up:

[DarthRekal]

Just for comparisons sake, again remembering I haven't seen him play; and I'm going out on a limb that you've seen this man play, but how would he stack up to Al Jefferson?

havent seen much of al jefferson..heard he was good though....i wouldnt mind having al on my team....bynum still wet behind the ears.... he can hold his own with anyone defensively i would assume...but still needs work offensivley..sorry i really cant compare have seen al play:(

[Snipershot]

how a bout them knicks? real roller coaster team. love em, but they suck

[Guy Gardner]

havent seen much of al jefferson..heard he was good though....i wouldnt mind having al on my team....bynum still wet behind the ears.... he can hold his own with anyone defensively i would assume...but still needs work offensivley..sorry i really cant compare have seen al play:(
It's ok...I was just wondering about a comparison since Big Al is someone of similar age and size and I've seen him play a ton.

[Snipershot]

is it just me, or it kobe getting better and better, but still less popular? because most people i know think he is a great player with no teammates, but is still hated, by me included

[Guy Gardner]

is it just me, or it kobe getting better and better, but still less popular? because most people i know think he is a great player with no teammates, but is still hated, by me included
Kobe's just a smug jerk, who gets more and more smug with each game he plays well in. He's not doing a thing for his image with that attitude.

[DarthRekal]

how a bout them knicks? real roller coaster team. love em, but they suck

being a lakers fan pains me to say that i like the new knicks..... frye is spectacular and who DOESNT love nate robinson????


also i know what you mean about kobe...... everyone likes his play but not him...thats what happens when yer a snitch:confused:

[DarthRekal]

Kobe's just a smug jerk, who gets more and more smug with each game he plays well in. He's not doing a thing for his image with that attitude.

i remember someone with the same attitude......used to play for the chicago bulls in the 90's.....


i think his rep as a dynasty killer is more than anything else..if shaq woulda left on better terms..more folx would be inclined to root for kobe.....

the media didnt help either...now they are pumping kobe...watch the scales tip now

[Guy Gardner]

Jordan wasn't as smug and he didn't carry the bad rep around with him, so even if it was smugness, more often than not it came off as confidence.

Unless you're referring to Bill Wennington, then yeah, it was pure unadulterated smug :rolleyes:

[DarthRekal]

Jordan wasn't as smug and he didn't carry the bad rep around with him, so even if it was smugness, more often than not it came off as confidence.

Unless you're referring to Bill Wennington, then yeah, it was pure unadulterated smug :rolleyes:


actually i was referring to luc longley but that was close!:)



but no you're right like i said its more of his rep that kills him..but believe me i watch cat play everynight..its KILLER instinct...more of like..im gonna win regardless what you do...at times its to a fault... but more oftne than not ..we need that

[Guy Gardner]

Quite true...I wish Paul Pierce would have that attitude on a more regular basis

[DarthRekal]

Quite true...I wish Paul Pierce would have that attitude on a more regular basis

paul pierce is great..hes an LA cat...... he has that but i think he's gotten complacent.... i hate to tell ya this but i thik he needs a change of scenery..i heard he wants to come back west like baron

[Guy Gardner]

I know he wants to bail; you can see it in his eyes with every close loss the team suffers.

He's said he doesn't want to really be a part of the rebuilding effort, but that's exactly what the C's are in the midst of right now, and Pierce is having his best season as a pro.

Gotta strike while the iron is hot, I think they'll move him and get something decent in return. Very slowly the Celtics are becoming Ricky Davis and Delonte West's team.

[DarthRekal]

I know he wants to bail; you can see it in his eyes with every close loss the team suffers.

He's said he doesn't want to really be a part of the rebuilding effort, but that's exactly what the C's are in the midst of right now, and Pierce is having his best season as a pro.

Gotta strike while the iron is hot, I think they'll move him and get something decent in return. Very slowly the Celtics are becoming Ricky Davis and Delonte West's team.

you guys got a good young core..if you can get some draft picks and free some cap space for some low price vets.... you guys should be good!:up:

[NOFX]

Is Bynum actually any good? I'm just curious because I tend not to see Laker games living on the East Coast (that and I'm a passing Celtics fan) and I'm interested if he's living up to the hype he gave himself coming out of the draft.
Bynum is actually an insurance policy for the Lakers:o If things dont work out the Lakers will trade Kobe and start over with Bynum but I hope things do work out!!!

[Leonard Shelby]

Bynum is meh.

[Alpha and Omega]

Bynum is actually an insurance policy for the Lakers:o If things dont work out the Lakers will trade Kobe and start over with Bynum but I hope things do work out!!!

:confused: . . . they're going to trade the guy who they paid 144 million:confused: :rolleyes:

In two years LAL will be a western conference contender. Now, they will just make the playoffs and lose in the 1st or 2nd round.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

:confused: . . . they're going to trade the guy who they paid 144 million:confused: :rolleyes:

In two years LAL will be a western conference contender. Now, they will just make the playoffs and lose in the 1st or 2nd round.

They don't make the playoffs and unless they get some more help they will not be western conference contenders in two years.

[DarthRekal]

They don't make the playoffs and unless they get some more help they will not be western conference contenders in two years.

yer sleeping..we do make the playoffs this YEAR!...and we will make some noise...watch!..... also ronny turiaf just re-signed a three year deal with us..CAT has hustle ..energy..just what we need a consistent rebounder.... LOOK OUT!:eek: :up:

[Alpha and Omega]

They don't make the playoffs and unless they get some more help they will not be western conference contenders in two years.

:rolleyes: PJ is teaching them the team defense necessary to do it currently. There is only one major mainstay threat in the west consistently: The Spurs. Every other team fluctuates. They have a shot. If they were in the eastern conference, they would have an easier time. REMEMBER, they are 2nd in their division: only 4 games out of 1st place.

[NOFX]

:confused: . . . they're going to trade the guy who they paid 144 million:confused: :rolleyes:

I used to say the same thing about Shaq and now look what happen to him. Like I said its just an insurance policy if things dont work out with Kobe. In 3 years PJ will be the president of the Lakers and not the coach.:o

[Equint77]

I hope the kobe's wife isn't carrying his baby... but shaq's...

:D

[NOFX]

I hope the kobe's wife isn't carrying his baby... but shaq's...

:D
....

[DarthRekal]

I used to say the same thing about Shaq and now look what happen to him. Like I said its just an insurance policy if things dont work out with Kobe. In 3 years PJ will be the president of the Lakers and not the coach.:o

doubt it..Jim buss is pres..jerry will not step over his son for PJ.... but i dont doubt kobe is safe either...right now things are going pretty smooth as opposed to last year..... if this keeps up kobe will not be going anywhere...neither will phil:up:

[Alpha and Omega]

I hope the kobe's wife isn't carrying his baby... but shaq's...

:D

:rolleyes:Yeah right.:mad: :O :) :o Everybody knows it's Karl Malone's little closet secret.;)

[Equint77]

that would be ****ed up if Phil Jackson was the father....

I think I'd have to die cause nothing would top that. :D

[Super_Ludacris]

So Steph is out with the injury....

[DarthRekal]

So Steph is out with the injury....

yeah thats effed up..he's on my fantasy team:mad:

[Alpha and Omega]

that would be ****ed up if Phil Jackson was the father....

I think I'd have to die cause nothing would top that. :D

What if she had twins, and in a modern marvel that the world didn't quite understand Phil J. was the father of one, and Pat Riley was the father of the other. Talk about sibling rivalry. That would be the best publicity the NBA could ever get.

[Alpha and Omega]

doubt it..Jim buss is pres..jerry will not step over his son for PJ.... but i dont doubt kobe is safe either...right now things are going pretty smooth as opposed to last year..... if this keeps up kobe will not be going anywhere...neither will phil:up:

yep. As long as progress is continuous, every one is happy. If Kobe messes up, Dr. Buss w/ trade him, and rebuild a new team. His contract is worth 12+ rookies.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

yep. As long as progress is continuous, every one is happy. If Kobe messes up, Dr. Buss w/ trade him, and rebuild a new team. His contract is worth 12+ rookies.

No chance in hell he trades Kobe.

1) He already made the decision on who the player will be to take them to the promise land when he traded Shaq.

2) Kobe is still very young with an okay supporting cast at best.

3) Kobe is in the league of players you don't trade: Duncan, Garnett, Iverson, James, Shaq...er (well they shouldn't trade them). For the most part if you have any of these players, you don't trade them you build around them and make them happy.


I mean after Shaq was traded it's obvious anyone can be, but I highly doubt buss will trade Kobe before he is in his early mid 30's...33-36ish.

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Anyone watch the Denver/Clevland game? Damn Can't believe he got the rebound then missed the second free throw attempt. Well he is still very young, so he has plenty of time to elevate his status to "Great".

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yer sleeping..we do make the playoffs this YEAR!...and we will make some noise...watch!..... also ronny turiaf just re-signed a three year deal with us..CAT has hustle ..energy..just what we need a consistent rebounder.... LOOK OUT!:eek: :up:

:rolleyes: PJ is teaching them the team defense necessary to do it currently. There is only one major mainstay threat in the west consistently: The Spurs. Every other team fluctuates. They have a shot. If they were in the eastern conference, they would have an easier time. REMEMBER, they are 2nd in their division: only 4 games out of 1st place.

Who on the team other than Kobe will carry them?....I'm waiting for an answer. Kobe is going to wear himself out by the end of the season having to drop 30 or more on a regular basis.

Then the team will have to be picked up by Odom, George, Parker? I just don't see the rest of the team being good enough to get them into the play offs.

[DarthRekal]

Who on the team other than Kobe will carry them?....I'm waiting for an answer. Kobe is going to wear himself out by the end of the season having to drop 30 or more on a regular basis.

Then the team will have to be picked up by Odom, George, Parker? I just don't see the rest of the team being good enough to get them into the play offs.

you lack faith in kobes conditioning... kobe hasnt played in the entire fourth quarter like three times this year.... he's never been worn thin in previous years..dude will be alright..i see your point on us being thin..but also see ours in that "contenders" in the west are not as they were... there is seedings available..and we will be one.....and if he scores within the confines of the offense it wont take that much energy to do so

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you lack faith in kobes conditioning... kobe hasnt played in the entire fourth quarter like three times this year.... he's never been worn thin in previous years..dude will be alright..i see your point on us being thin..but also see ours in that "contenders" in the west are not as they were... there is seedings available..and we will be one.....and if he scores within the confines of the offense it wont take that much energy to do so

I agree with the West no longer being the dominate force. The Spurs are on top as always and the team to beat, the Mavs would have the two spot locked up if not for bbeing in the same division as the Spurs and have improved thanks to Avery. The six through 8 spots are shakey at best.

Here are the teams right now that the Lakers have to contend with to make it into the playoffs for the 6-8 seeds.

As of right now.

6. Clippers
7. Lakers
8. Jazz

Teams that can threaten those 6-8 spots.

Minnesota-who knows what kind of deal they make before the trade deadline, it could either ruin them or give them the vital boost KG needs, because let's face it, KG is the Wolves as much as Kobe is the Lakers if not more so.

Hornets- I don't see them as being a real threat but you never know what will happen there is still a lot of season left to play.

Warriors- So far we have seen two Warrior teams this season, the Warriors of the past 12 years and the new Warriors that can play with the best of them and belong there. Artest trade may have got them in a funk, the sooner that is wrapped up the better. But which team will we see after?

Kings & Sonics- I put both of these teams together because they both are in similar situations. Both were playoff teams and have the experience but now are a few players short, but as with other teams there is still alot of season left for both as well as trades to be mad. Don't rule out Artest going to the Kings for Peja. I would say these two teams are the longest shot to make it in, but of the teams not in the race right now these two especially the Kings have the most experience.

[DarthRekal]

exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

But

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

But seriously

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

But seriously did

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

But seriously did anyone

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

But seriously did anyone see

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

But seriously did anyone see Kobe

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

But seriously did anyone see Kobe tonight?

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

But seriously did anyone see Kobe tonight? The

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

But seriously did anyone see Kobe tonight? The guy

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

But seriously did anyone see Kobe tonight? The guy is

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

But seriously did anyone see Kobe tonight? I wish I had an 1/8

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

But seriously did anyone see Kobe tonight? I wish I had an 1/8 of the

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

But seriously did anyone see Kobe tonight? I wish I had an 1/8 of the guy's

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

But seriously did anyone see Kobe tonight? I wish I had an 1/8 of the guy's talent.

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exactly i have complete faith we can make it and beat those teams....our depth is succeptable but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts...rony turiaf will help out..and the team d gets better and better each day....we'll be okay

Ehh, well Kobe is no doubt a killer, the guy is just scary, I mean if he gets even a decent look, he is draining it, I mean the guy didn't even hit the rim until it was almost half time.

But that being said, 45 points tonight, overtime and they lost to the Kings. Kobe is good, but I just don't think he has enough support. As much as I really dislike the Lakers and don't care for Kobe, the guy is THE BEST player in the NBA period, with KG very very close.

But Golden State should rebound strong, the way Jazz are playing I won't be surprised and Kings are getting healthy and better used to playing with each other. I'll agree with the Lakers beating out the sonics, unless they get some serious help.

But I can see the Warriors, Jazz and Kings keeping the Lakers out of the playoffs.

But we will have to wait and see.

But seriously did anyone see Kobe tonight? I wish I had an 1/8 of the guy's talent.

[NOFX]

18 double post!!!:eek: wtf???:confused:

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18 double post!!!:eek: wtf???:confused:

Don't ask me what happend, even when I TRY to double post I can't, I have no clue how I do it on accident. :confused: :( :eek: :doom: :spidey:

[Alpha and Omega]

18 double post!!!:eek: wtf???:confused:

hahahahahaha. I did like 5 accidentally the other day, and someone complained, but another person said that the most they'd ever seen was 41:eek: :eek: . I felt embarrassed until I read that. :O http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Milkman95]

Well, Bah Humbbug, you forgot Lebron James in that mix - I think he's right there with KG and Kobe.

The Pistons are now 32-5, and are playing ridiculous basketball. I just hope they can keep it up through the playoffs. Flip has them playing unbelievable right now........

[Alpha and Omega]

Well, Bah Humbbug, you forgot Lebron James in that mix - I think he's right there with KG and Kobe.

The Pistons are now 32-5, and are playing ridiculous basketball. I just hope they can keep it up through the playoffs. Flip has them playing unbelievable right now........

Lebron isn't on the level of Kobe, KG, Tim Duncan, Dwayne Wade, or a handful of others just yet. He is one of the league's premiere players, but he does not consistently play defense. He's not a complete player yet.

[Milkman95]

Lebron isn't on the level of Kobe, KG, Tim Duncan, Dwayne Wade, or a handful of others just yet. He is one of the league's premiere players, but he does not consistently play defense. He's not a complete player yet.

You're right, I should have put the Piston's starting 5 ahead of Lebron........:up: