2005-2006 NBA thread

[Alpha and Omega]

hahaha, I'm not arguing that. Isaiah is treating NY like his personal "you know what."

I don't see anything good happening for the Knicks. I guarantee a Larry Brown notice of evac w/in 1,2 more seasons. :o sorry NY fans, but you know it's true.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

**** it's the truth my ninja

Yes, yes it is. But according to Woody Paige, they can still make the playoffs :rolleyes:

[Super_Ludacris]

I'm suprised Woody Paige still has a job. I remember like four years ago on Around the Horn when SI's Jackie Macullam a woman who reports on the NBA was debating something with Woody and he lost it and just snapped a sexist remark in the middle.There was like this akward ass silence during the show for like 5 seconds lol

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I'm suprised Woody Paige still has a job. I remember like four years ago on Around the Horn when SI's Jackie Macullam a woman who reports on the NBA was debating something with Woody and he lost it and just snapped a sexist remark in the middle.There was like this akward ass silence during the show for like 5 seconds lol

Hahaha lmfao, sounds like Woody, I tell you for as much as I hate Skip Bayless, especially since I grew up reading his stupid columns for several year here in the bay area. He makes more sense than Paige more often than not.

[Lobo]

Okay, I will give you that for financial reasons but as far as talent upgrade, that doesn't mean squat, talent vs. knowing how to play the game are two vastly different aspects of the game itself.


I agree as Marbury and Francis haven proven that. But itwould give me some hilights to watch besides Nate in the dunk contest

[Alpha and Omega]

Yes, yes it is. But according to Woody Paige, they can still make the playoffs :rolleyes:

Woody Paige. I haven't watched ATH in months. Is that hack still on the show?

[Super_Ludacris]

I agree as Marbury and Francis haven proven that. But itwould give me some hilights to watch besides Nate in the dunk contest


For real Marbury and Francis fighting with each on the bench would be some entertainng ****

[Alpha and Omega]

For real Marbury and Francis fighting with each on the bench would be some entertainng ****

Hahaha. That would be the real ent. Forget the game. We can have Fight-night in the late 3rd quarter when the Knicks are down by two or three dozen and Larry Brown has been ejected. Can you see Channing Frye trying to break them up? NY fans are grimey. They'll want a fight to the death, and I'll catch it on sportscenter.:o

Violence is wrong, but spectacles are a part of life. :D

[Super_Ludacris]

Yo did you draw that picture of Kreuk in your avy? cause I've seen that sketch somewhere

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I agree as Marbury and Francis haven proven that. But itwould give me some hilights to watch besides Nate in the dunk contest

Tis true, plus I wouldn't doubt a package trade or seperate trades involving one or both of them the following year.

[Alpha and Omega]

Yo did you draw that picture of Kreuk in your avy? cause I've seen that sketch somewhere

NO. Google Kreuk and it will come up. I just saved and uploaded it.:o I can't make avvys.:(

Don't worry Lobo, maybe next year. :up:

[DarthRekal]

TMAC to the lake show...you heard it here first!:eek: :up:



disclaimer: i could be wrong!:p

[Mister J]

TMAC to the lake show...you heard it here first!:eek: :up:



disclaimer: i could be wrong!:p

I was getting ready to post "*cough.bull***.cough", then I saw your disclaimer.

Can you imagine Mamba and McGrady in the same backcourt? Zen Master could write 2 more books on that alone.

[DarthRekal]

I was getting ready to post "*cough.bull***.cough", then I saw you're disclaimer.

Can you imagine Mamba and McGrady in the same backcourt? Zen Master could write 2 more books on that alone.

yeah i got a source..but they have been wrong.... i thought so too mister j...but it's better than what we got now...

but seriously..this is a pretty solid rumor...if it falls through(which me being a skeptic, thinks it will) i apologize:O

[Mister J]

For who? Lamar?,...well really, there's no one else.

[DarthRekal]

For who? Lamar?,...well really, there's no one else.

3way...houston gets lamar and francis orlando gets cap space i.e. wesley and mckie and la gets tmac.....

pretty credible source..but anything can happen look what happened with the boozer deal...for me i'll believe it when i see it...

but to be honest i am gettin kinda excited

[Mister J]

Why would Houston want Whiny Francis back? Interesting though.

[NOFX]

Where the link?

[Lobo]

KG to NY :eek: I WISH :(

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

KG to NY :eek: I WISH :(


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!:down

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

TMAC to the lake show...you heard it here first!:eek: :up:



disclaimer: i could be wrong!:p

Another scenario involving two players that need to shoot the ball 20-30 times a game.

[Lobo]

I can dream :mad: :(

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I can dream :mad: :(

No, no you can't. The President of the United States has now outlawed dreaming! :mad:

[Billy Bandit]

hahaha, I'm not arguing that. Isaiah is treating NY like his personal "you know what."

I don't see anything good happening for the Knicks. I guarantee a Larry Brown notice of evac w/in 1,2 more seasons. :o sorry NY fans, but you know it's true.

Maybe it's jsut me, but I don't know what.

[Super_Ludacris]

KG to NY :eek: I WISH :(


To go on a talk show and film commercial maybe

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

"Tracy McGrady told coach Jeff Van Gundy he was considering taking some games off and disappearing from public life.
"I told my coach that's how I felt -- that I really felt like leaving and not tell people where I was going, just getting away for a few days and just clearing my mind," McGrady said. TMac is getting just 19.4 PPG on 35% shooting in February. He's only shot over 50% in one of his past 13 games so his mind is definitely elsewhere. "I've dealt with family members passing away, best friends getting killed," he added. "This is a lot worse than that because it's a combination of things in different areas." He'll be in the starting lineup in Sunday's All-Star game." from rotoworld

wtf is that supposed to mean? he's becoming a hermit for a few days?

[NOFX]

"Tracy McGrady told coach Jeff Van Gundy he was considering taking some games off and disappearing from public life.
"I told my coach that's how I felt -- that I really felt like leaving and not tell people where I was going, just getting away for a few days and just clearing my mind," McGrady said. TMac is getting just 19.4 PPG on 35% shooting in February. He's only shot over 50% in one of his past 13 games so his mind is definitely elsewhere. "I've dealt with family members passing away, best friends getting killed," he added. "This is a lot worse than that because it's a combination of things in different areas." He'll be in the starting lineup in Sunday's All-Star game." from rotoworld

wtf is that supposed to mean? he's becoming a hermit for a few days?
Sounds like "Ricky Williams syndrome" :mad:

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

so McGrady's going away to smoke? that'd be funny

wtf is going on here?

"The Knicks might be able to offer the best package of young players such as Jamal Crawford, former Florida Gator Davis Lee, Trevor Ariza and Nate Robinson. The Nuggets, according to various reports, would send forward Nene' and point guard Earl Watson for Francis. They also might be trying to trade forward Kenyon Martin. Orlando Sentinel"

"The Seattle SuperSonics also have called about Francis, and might be offering point guard Luke Ridnour as part of a deal, the source said. Other teams rumored to be linked to Francis are the New York Knicks and the Denver Nuggets. Orlando Sentinel"

"The Lakers aren't the only team interested in Francis. The Houston Rockets -- Francis' former team -- have picked up interest in the past few days to make a "dramatic move" with the Magic. Orlando Sentinel"

"The Lakers are "aggressively" pursuing a trade that would send forward Lamar Odom to the Magic for Francis in a multiplayer deal, NBA sources told the Orlando Sentinel today. Odom, a 6-foot-10, 230-pound forward, is an all-around player lost in Kobe Bryant's immense shadow with the Lakers. He was acquired in that megadeal involving Shaquille O'Neal and the Miami Heat. Orlando Sentinel"

"Francis' agent, Jeff Fried, said today that the Magic haven't informed him that a trade was pending. The trade deadline is Thursday. "There's no change in Steve's situation that I'm aware of," he said. Asked whether Francis was resigned to being traded, Fried said, "No." Orlando Sentinel"

this time of the season can be really annoying with all the speculation and I thought no one wanted this guy

[Super_Ludacris]

"Tracy McGrady told coach Jeff Van Gundy he was considering taking some games off and disappearing from public life.
"I told my coach that's how I felt -- that I really felt like leaving and not tell people where I was going, just getting away for a few days and just clearing my mind," McGrady said. TMac is getting just 19.4 PPG on 35% shooting in February. He's only shot over 50% in one of his past 13 games so his mind is definitely elsewhere. "I've dealt with family members passing away, best friends getting killed," he added. "This is a lot worse than that because it's a combination of things in different areas." He'll be in the starting lineup in Sunday's All-Star game." from rotoworld

wtf is that supposed to mean? he's becoming a hermit for a few days?


Maybe the Orlando roster should take some time off too......:o they sure play like they need to

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

Maybe the Orlando roster should take some time off too......:o they sure play like they need to
Grant Hill, Kelvin Cato, Jameer Nelson, and Keyon Dooling have taken enough time off for the lot of them.

and Jameer's lost for another 3 weeks apparently

[Super_Ludacris]

The Orlando Tragic stay losing

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

the stupid thing is that they won't let Travis Deiner or Mario Kasun play...seriously, they're not going to lose the game for you, it'll happen anyway

[Hudson]

Fuzz :eek: long time no see.

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

you're still wearing your hat :eek:

[Hudson]

you're still wearing your hat :eek:
yup, I even have the same title, my signature changes sometimes, but not often.:up:

Hows things?

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

I'm well, school is boring and cuts into sleep time. I need to find a job just because.

How are things with you and your hat?

[Hudson]

I'm well, school is boring and cuts into sleep time. I need to find a job just because.

How are things with you and your hat?

they pretty damn cool, I'm an author these days, not a published one but you know I got one Novel written, still needs edit and working on another.
I got boring school as well.

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

Sounds pretty fun but taxing.

[Hudson]

Sounds pretty fun but taxing.
Oh yeah it is, took me 2½ years to write the first one.
Then when the second came around I had already found a community of writers which is helpful. I did 40k or so in a month :eek:

40k of words that is... I'm used to other writer who know what it means ;)

[Stringer]

Iggy got robbed:mad:

[Erich Weiss]

Travis Diener for life:mad:

[Mister J]

Yeah. Nate did well, but the judging on AI's last dunk was shady.

[Lobo]

Iggy got robbed:mad:


I agree :up: and I was rooting for Nate :o

[Mister J]

I did mind seeing Nate win, but AI's last dunk in regulation had shady judging too. It was just too much.

[Lobo]

Nate's dunk over Spud was kick ass tho :up:

[Mister J]

Absolutely and it deserved a 50. Ai just got jobbed. If he did that one wher he went under the backboard later, he would have taken it.

[Stringer]

Yeah Nates dunk over spud was the sh**

[Lobo]

Nate won by one point, so had the judge kept that 10 instead of changing to a 9 we would've had a second tie and second dunk off, they gave it to N8 as a gift cause he's small. AI deserved that win tho.

If I can geta gif of that dunk sometime this wek it will be my avvy :o

[The Riddler]

Yes, and that was clearly evident when the Amare-less Phoenix Suns beat the Rockets 125-75 last night
one game means nothing.

it was also a poor effort by the whole team.

also, your post is so ridiculous; i shouldn't be needing to post a reply to such a short sighted post.

[The Riddler]

You know that is a horrible thing to bring up, if the sports world went on stats entirely then Kobe is better than Jordan (81 single game) and Kareem is the best player of all time.
what are you talking about?

a player can't be measured on one game, so thus stats for one game will be factored but are not the same as being judged on season averages or career averages.

and i think you're talking about wilt, not kareem with his legendary 100.

also, i think kobe is a better scorer than jordan, though not a better player.

[The Riddler]

yea look at those wonderful stats

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/yao_ming/index.html?nav=page

i can't thing of anyone better than yao (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/shaquille_oneal/index.html?nav=page)

do yourself a favor and get NBA league pass so you can actually watch the games
show me a true center who is averaging 20 pts. and over 9 rebs a game.

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

Travis Diener for life:mad:
yes, I love Doogie Howser

[Assassin]

Okay so whos gonna win? I pick East, Flip and his 4 kids are gonna conquer the west!

[Super_Ludacris]

one game means nothing.

it was also a poor effort by the whole team.

also, your post is so ridiculous; i shouldn't be needing to post a reply to such a short sighted post.

They played like ass, did you see the game they were down by like 40 something in the 3rd quarter. If the team is ass the team is ass just admit it


and oh yeah AI got robbed but after that Spud dunk by Nate it was a bit hard to give it to the next man. That was historic but I wanted Dre to win

And Dirk's 3 point was controversial, I mean did that shot after the buzzer shot

[blahah]

Nate won by one point, so had the judge kept that 10 instead of changing to a 9 we would've had a second tie and second dunk off, they gave it to N8 as a gift cause he's small. AI deserved that win tho.

If I can geta gif of that dunk sometime this wek it will be my avvy :o


http://www.imagedonkey.com/out.php/i4637_spud.gif

[Assassin]

jeeeeezus!

[Lobo]

http://www.imagedonkey.com/out.php/i4637_spud.gif


You rule :up:, I found another angle its in the dunk controversy thread, i have someone working on the avvy as well ;)

[Assassin]

shaq looks like a dork doing that robot thing

[Assassin]

am i th eonly one watching this?

who said detroit is weak against the west? :p

[Stringer]

I did and still stand by that:up:

[Super_Ludacris]

**** Detroit was the reason the East came back from that deficet. Wade and Bron did there thing but it was there D that helped. Had the West won I think T-Mac would have won MVP. But all in all a good game, the best one since the 2001 All-Star Game

lol@ Shaq's remote control shoe car

How can anyone hate on Shaquille?

[Super_Ludacris]

Oh Yeah and Iggy was robbed.....

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3046/511408633l5sp.gif

[The Riddler]

don't be messed up.

ai's last dunk wasn't that great at all.

i think nate deserved to win.

[The Riddler]

They played like ass, did you see the game they were down by like 40 something in the 3rd quarter. If the team is ass the team is ass just admit it


and oh yeah AI got robbed but after that Spud dunk by Nate it was a bit hard to give it to the next man. That was historic but I wanted Dre to win

And Dirk's 3 point was controversial, I mean did that shot after the buzzer shot
poor performance=weak game.

and as a team they're much better than the crap they showed against the suns.

look at their previous game against the clip.

[Stringer]

don't be messed up.

ai's last dunk wasn't that great at all.

i think nate deserved to win.
Iggy's dunk wasnt that great?? You CANT be serious:confused:

[Assassin]

I'm not saying this because i live here and am a big fan of detroit, but if it wasnt for them in the 3rd quarters, the east would have lost by 20 pts.

[Stringer]

AI Wade and Lebron brought them back

[Assassin]

after rasheed, billups,ben and hamilton took over

[Super_Ludacris]

^^^ Correct, the Pistons D in the 3rd helped and then Bron and Wade finished the job

BTW the intros to the ASG was the gayest **** ever

[Assassin]

labron was playing like a bum and made an ass out of him self with that air ball, kobe was ****ing passing..and labron wasnt...

[TheWaterologist]

That ****ing Lebron:mad: I'm gonna find someone with a headband on and kill him to make ou pfor that ****ing Lebro:mad:

[Assassin]

Yea i hate him too..but i wouldnt kill some one and pretend it was him...

[TheWaterologist]

Then I would send teh guy with the headband's headband to Lebron and make him wear it:mad: Then I would jerk of to a picture of Flip Suanders.

[Assassin]

great, you do that buddy :up:







**** this guy i'm leaving

[DarthRekal]

yup luda the motown pistons...won that game.... and anyone NOTICE KOBE PASSING THE BALL TO *ahem* TMAC!:confused:

[Ultimate_Superman]

I just find it said that the Pistons + King James can beat an All-Star team.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Oh Yeah and Iggy was robbed.....

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3046/511408633l5sp.gifThats messed up!

[Super_Ludacris]

It's true though, Iggy lost by 1 point and you saw the contest, Barkley, Magic was right he was robbed

[Ultimate_Superman]

Then will you admit GA was robbed of the 3 point title since the winner should have never been in it since he shot after his time ran out?

[Super_Ludacris]

Of course GA was robbed, I just said that in the last page. Dirk's 3 was after the buzzer. But **** GA He played like ass in the ASG

[Go Web Go!]

^^^ Correct, the Pistons D in the 3rd helped and then Bron and Wade finished the job

BTW the intros to the ASG was the gayest **** ever

Why? I thought it was pretty damn funny.

[Mister J]

Why? I thought it was pretty damn funny.

What was funny was that the West saw what the East did and was "Oh ****!, we gotta come up with something." Then they brought that comparitively weak electric wave/worm/breakdance crap.

[Assassin]

yup luda the motown pistons...won that game.... and anyone NOTICE KOBE PASSING THE BALL TO *ahem* TMAC!:confused:

Yep..and did any one notice Labron's ball hogging and the airball in the 1st quarter that made him look like an ass?

[Assassin]

I just find it said that the Pistons + King James can beat an All-Star team.

LOL...but plz dont call him king james, you're buying into the hype..hes marketed too much for some one that never won aanything outside of highschool.

He only won that MVP and rookie of the year because the NBA invested too much in him

[The Riddler]

Iggy's dunk wasnt that great?? You CANT be serious:confused:
?

his last two dunks were essentially the same...

[The Riddler]

I just find it said that the Pistons + King James can beat an All-Star team.
lol lehype's foul of t-mac at the end was shocking because of the no call.

i would think they would call that.

[Assassin]

they didnt call alot of traveling i noticed

[Stringer]

?

his last two dunks were essentially the same...
His best two dunks were leagues better than Robinsons best and did it in about 28 fewer attempts:o

[Mister J]

LOL...but plz dont call him king james, you're buying into the hype..hes marketed too much for some one that never won aanything outside of highschool.

He didn't play college and has only been in the league for 2 years. When exactly was he supposed to do all this winning outside of high school?

He only won that MVP and rookie of the year because the NBA invested too much in him

The all-star MVP is nearly always debateable, but it seems to me he had the most outstanding performance on the winning team.

As far as ROY, the man went 21/6/6. There aren't too many veterans that can do that.

21/6/6 in his rookie year; 27/7/7 his 2nd season; and this year he's 31/7/7. I'd say that hype is being lived up to.

What more do you want from him?

[Mister J]

His best two dunks were leagues better than Robinsons best and did it in about 28 fewer attempts:o

Absolutely.

They really need to do something about this 'unlimited attempts' crap. I don't remember Jordan, 'Nique or Larry Nance needing 10 tries to throw one down. Hell, Kobe, JR and Vince didn't need all that either.

[Super_Ludacris]

I'm not a Lebron but y'all have to be simple minded local fans not to recognise he's one of the best players in the League and a possible top 5 candidate.

He has lived to his hype and just to prove himself in the playoffs but he's making good progression, excellent progression at that

[Ultimate_Superman]

they didnt call alot of traveling i noticedOf course they didn't I mean there was so much traveling going on in that game that some of them had luggage bags..

[Equint77]

I did mind seeing Nate win, but AI's last dunk in regulation had shady judging too. It was just too much.

the shady one was Moses Malone giving Nate 8's while everyone else gave him 9's.

Then giving Andre 10's after his dunks. That was blatant 6'er favortism.

But I'm glad Nate won... he was up to 20 dunk attempts at the end and still managed to make his last dunks.

It's the only thing I can feel good about this season. :(

[Lobo]

since it all we Knicks fans have this season It's my avatar now :)

[Equint77]

sweet avvy Lobo.

It's almost a sure thing that he'll be back next year to defend his title.

I'm hoping he has even better dunks next year.

[Equint77]

http://aol.nba.com/media/allstar2006/NRobinson_300_060218.jpg
http://aol.nba.com/media/allstar2006/Nate-Pool---400.jpg

[Lobo]

I posted to gis of it in the controversy thread E77 ;)

[Super_Ludacris]

Says a lot of about the Knicks when the highlight of the year is a dunk over a retired 5-footer.

smh@ the Knicks

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Says a lot of about the Knicks when the highlight of the year is a dunk over a retired 5-footer.

smh@ the Knicks

lmfao haha

[Super_Ludacris]

And lets not front, Iggy was robbed I'm sorry I keep sayin saying this, but the judge who put down the 10 and then put back up a 9 on his final dunk was tripping and Barkley and Ernie spotted that, he only lost by one point. And I dont want even hear about Nate being robbed of points, that little Martin Lawrence looking mutha****er took like 20 attempts on 2 of his last dunks. If this was the old format he would have been eliminated in the semis.
Watching him take so long to do that was like watching the Special Olympics

Barkley: "Nate needs to give it up.....No Seriously he needs to give it up"

[Equint77]

Says a lot of about the Knicks when the highlight of the year is a dunk over a retired 5-footer.

smh@ the Knicks

uhm.. they're losing? :confused:

I guess I'm supposed to be delusional and act like they're going somewhere.

But don't act like you didn't like Nate's dunks... please. :o

[Super_Ludacris]

uhm.. they're losing? :confused:

I guess I'm supposed to be delusional and act like they're going somewhere.

But don't act like you didn't like Nate's dunks... please. :o


I'll give little man props the dunk through the legs, the 360 and Spud was great but Iggy trumped him. That Dunk he caught from AI behind the backboard was ill. Do you know how hard and dangerous it is to pull that **** off? Nevermind hitting his head on the board, dude could have hurt himself bending his neck avoiding the board

[Equint77]

I'll give little man props the dunk through the legs, the 360 and Spud was great but Iggy trumped him. That Dunk he caught from AI behind the backboard was ill. Do you know how hard and dangerous it is to pull that **** off? Nevermind hitting his head on the board, dude could have hurt himself bending his neck avoiding the board

I'm not taking anything away from Andre... he had some great dunks and that behind the backboard dunk was crazy....

It could have gone either way...... but they need to stop with this "rising stars" bull **** and get the superstars to participate again.

Also they need to bring it back to an 8 player format instead of 4. It looks so hollow.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

And lets not front, Iggy was robbed I'm sorry I keep sayin saying this, but the judge who put down the 10 and then put back up a 9 on his final dunk was tripping and Barkley and Ernie spotted that, he only lost by one point. And I dont want even hear about Nate being robbed of points, that little Martin Lawrence looking mutha****er took like 20 attempts on 2 of his last dunks. If this was the old format he would have been eliminated in the semis.
Watching him take so long to do that was like watching the Special Olympics

Barkley: "Nate needs to give it up.....No Seriously he needs to give it up"

Exactly :up:

[Super_Ludacris]

I'm not taking anything away from Andre... he had some great dunks and that behind the backboard dunk was crazy....

It could have gone either way...... but they need to stop with this "rising stars" bull **** and get the superstars to participate again.

Also they need to bring it back to an 8 player format instead of 4. It looks so hollow.

Well this is true, I never thought I would see more superstars in the Skills competion (last few years its been Marbury,Nash,Kidd,Lebron and Wade) but they need to bring it back to the old format

[Equint77]

And lets not front, Iggy was robbed I'm sorry I keep sayin saying this, but the judge who put down the 10 and then put back up a 9 on his final dunk was tripping and Barkley and Ernie spotted that, he only lost by one point. And I dont want even hear about Nate being robbed of points, that little Martin Lawrence looking mutha****er took like 20 attempts on 2 of his last dunks. If this was the old format he would have been eliminated in the semis.
Watching him take so long to do that was like watching the Special Olympics

Barkley: "Nate needs to give it up.....No Seriously he needs to give it up"

Robbed? Moses Malone kept giving Nate 8's.... that old man was so biased he should have been wearing his old 6er jersey.

But yeah... they need to keep it at 3 attempts at the most. But then again it's not like AI got all his dunks in... at one point it took him like 5 attempts. I think it was after Nate did his alley oop over spud.

[Super_Ludacris]

Robbed? Moses Malone kept giving Nate 8's.... that old man was so biased he should have been wearing his old 6er jersey.
.

I thought he was generous considering it took Tatoo 20 times to dunk that

[Equint77]

I thought he was generous considering it took Tatoo 20 times to dunk that

I think he looks like a mini 50 cent.... but that's just me.

[Super_Ludacris]

Probably explains why I want him capped

[Equint77]

Probably explains why I want him capped

leave him alone... at least he made the dunk contest not boring. :)

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Robbed? Moses Malone kept giving Nate 8's.... that old man was so biased he should have been wearing his old 6er jersey.

But yeah... they need to keep it at 3 attempts at the most. But then again it's not like AI got all his dunks in... at one point it took him like 5 attempts. I think it was after Nate did his alley oop over spud.

Yeah but some of Nate's Dunks were overratted. Jumping over Spud, so what, anyone remember the Olympics where Carter jumped over a 7 footer, in a game? Plus I hate gimick dunks, jumping up and tucking the ball under your leg two times, then throwing it off the backboard from 21 feet and dunking it, really isn't that impressive, it's just timing.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I'm not taking anything away from Andre... he had some great dunks and that behind the backboard dunk was crazy....

It could have gone either way...... but they need to stop with this "rising stars" bull **** and get the superstars to participate again.

Also they need to bring it back to an 8 player format instead of 4. It looks so hollow.

Very true :up:

[Equint77]

Yeah but some of Nate's Dunks were overratted. Jumping over Spud, so what, anyone remember the Olympics where Carter jumped over a 7 footer, in a game? Plus I hate gimick dunks, jumping up and tucking the ball under your leg two times, then throwing it off the backboard from 21 feet and dunking it, really isn't that impressive, it's just timing.

then get vince to participate again..... but it's his own selfishness and David Stern's spinelessness that makes people not wanna see these contests.

Saying his dunks are overrated is opinion... you didn't have to like them... I did. I thought last years contest was lame till that kid pulled out the old Nique jersey.

By the way, they're all gimmick dunks.... ALL OF THEM.. that's the point of the contest. Throwing it off the backboard.. between the legs..

People get tired of watching the same old dunks..... at least some players have the nerve to try something new. Anyone remember Finley doing a cartwheel years ago??

[Super_Ludacris]

That finley would have been ill too if he pulled it off too. And I remeber that 97 Dunk Contest, they robbed that Minnesota player (Carr) over Kobe

[Erundur]

Wizards are going to win tonight :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

then get vince to participate again..... but it's his own selfishness and David Stern's spinelessness that makes people not wanna see these contests.

Saying his dunks are overrated is opinion... you didn't have to like them... I did. I thought last years contest was lame till that kid pulled out the old Nique jersey.

By the way, they're all gimmick dunks.... ALL OF THEM.. that's the point of the contest. Throwing it off the backboard.. between the legs..

People get tired of watching the same old dunks..... at least some players have the nerve to try something new. Anyone remember Finley doing a cartwheel years ago??

yes and I hated it, but you are right they are all gimicks, but I guess I just don't really care for over elaborate dunks that have no point to it.

I mean anyone can jump up and pass the ball under their legs, run over to the sidelines, take a shot of tequilla, bounce the ball off of david stern's head, do 5 jumping jacks , while throwing the ball up in the air, get 2 and 1 guys in to dribble down court with you then throw it off glass and dunk it.

I hate that kind of crap. Yes I agree it's something new, but something new and original isn't always better. But what about improving on old dunks?

I have still yet to see anyone dunk two balls at once in as many years since it's been done. I have yet to see anyone take off from (behind) the free throw line, while actually dribbling the ball. What about someone raising the rim to higher than 10 feet? I mean the one guy on the Globe Trotters can dunk on a 12 foot rim. What about trying a 360 behind the back? Or a 450? or 540?

I like to see new stuff and yes repeating old stuff does get boring if it is the same between the legs garbage but there are plenty of old dunks they can improve on and or plenty of new drunks to try, without bringing in a circus.

And as for Vince Participating again, a little hard to do when for one it's titled rising stars and there are only 4 participants. Plus even Kobe has said before, that the older you get the more it takes a toal on your body. Not saying that gets him off the hook, but it plays a factor.

[Equint77]

yes and I hated it, but you are right they are all gimicks, but I guess I just don't really care for over elaborate dunks that have no point to it.

I mean anyone can jump up and pass the ball under their legs, run over to the sidelines, take a shot of tequilla, bounce the ball off of david stern's head, do 5 jumping jacks , while throwing the ball up in the air, get 2 and 1 guys in to dribble down court with you then throw it off glass and dunk it.


That's not true..... not everyone can do these dunks..... if you can... hell more power to you. They seem like no big deal cause we're pretty much used to these guys doing it on a regular basis... but it should no way make it any less extraordinary.


I hate that kind of crap. Yes I agree it's something new, but something new and original isn't always better. But what about improving on old dunks?

that's all they do.. they do variations of the 360... the free throw line dunk.... the windmill...


I have still yet to see anyone dunk two balls at once in as many years since it's been done. I have yet to see anyone take off from (behind) the free throw line, while actually dribbling the ball. What about someone raising the rim to higher than 10 feet? I mean the one guy on the Globe Trotters can dunk on a 12 foot rim. What about trying a 360 behind the back? Or a 450? or 540?


lol.. if it was that easy to do some of those.. wouldn't we see more of them? Like I said... it looks easy to us cause we've seen sooo many dunks over the years (speaking for myself and some others) we kinda forget how tough it is to jump in the air, move the ball around and still manage to put it in the hole with style.


I like to see new stuff and yes repeating old stuff does get boring if it is the same between the legs garbage but there are plenty of old dunks they can improve on and or plenty of new drunks to try, without bringing in a circus.

What circus? Some of them bring in their teammates for assistance... the dunk Amare did last year where Nash bounced the ball off the head was cool.. no? But remember just how you think the between the legs is garbage.. someone else might be sick of seeing a 360 tomahawk or a windmill. It's preference.


And as for Vince Participating again, a little hard to do when for one it's titled rising stars and there are only 4 participants. Plus even Kobe has said before, that the older you get the more it takes a toal on your body. Not saying that gets him off the hook, but it plays a factor.

I don't buy that.... All-Star weekend is a chance to show off the best your league has to offer... THE BEST. These players shouldn't be complaining about the toll it takes on their body.. it's not EVERY week or every month... it's one weekend a year where they get to show off their talents... and None of them.. are guaranteed to be there every year. Stern loves to sell his product but if he really knew what the fans wanted.. he'd make it mandatory for Lebron, Kobe, Vince, T-mac.. all those guys to participate in as many events as possible.

No one complains about the 3 point shooting contest... that tires out all the same.

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That's not true..... not everyone can do these dunks..... if you can... hell more power to you. They seem like no big deal cause we're pretty much used to these guys doing it on a regular basis... but it should no way make it any less extraordinary.

you're right, for me it's extremley hard, but I guess I just expect more from the NBA.



that's all they do.. they do variations of the 360... the free throw line dunk.... the windmill...

That's not all they do, as you point out below.


lol.. if it was that easy to do some of those.. wouldn't we see more of them? Like I said... it looks easy to us cause we've seen sooo many dunks over the years (speaking for myself and some others) we kinda forget how tough it is to jump in the air, move the ball around and still manage to put it in the hole with style.
Exactly, they are not supossed to be easy to do. They are supossed to be difficult and challenging. But yes I do agree, we are a little jaded.


What circus? Some of them bring in their teammates for assistance... the dunk Amare did last year where Nash bounced the ball off the head was cool.. no? But remember just how you think the between the legs is garbage.. someone else might be sick of seeing a 360 tomahawk or a windmill. It's preference.

Cool? No, anyone that can dunk a basketball can pull that off, the guy on your local court that can dunk can do that. It is nothing impressive. As you said we have become a bit jaded from seeing so many spectacular drunks, that was not one of them. :down Creative yes, difficult? Far from it.



I don't buy that.... All-Star weekend is a chance to show off the best your league has to offer... THE BEST. These players shouldn't be complaining about the toll it takes on their body.. it's not EVERY week or every month... it's one weekend a year where they get to show off their talents... and None of them.. are guaranteed to be there every year. Stern loves to sell his product but if he really knew what the fans wanted.. he'd make it mandatory for Lebron, Kobe, Vince, T-mac.. all those guys to participate in as many events as possible.

No one complains about the 3 point shooting contest... that tires out all the same.

As you said earlier though, we assume it is so easy. It's not like the dunk contest is in the summer time after they have had a month or so to rest. Like you said, we assume it is easy to jump, move the ball, and twist your body then dunk it with consistency and accuracy. Shooting 25 balls in one minute does not take as much energy, is not as tiring nor does it create the same kind of impact on your body that dunking and landing does.

Maybe it's a cop out, maybe it isn't but like you said Stern is also to blame. I mean come on we start at the semi finals? What kind of crap is that?

Don't get me wrong, I would like to see Kobe, T-Mac, Vince, Richardson and others competing, but I don't think it should be mandatory. But I think this also goes back to how a lot of the old school atheletes feel in general about atheletes today. Most of them don't have any pride in the game or true love for it. They just want to get paid and get as much face time as possible.

[Equint77]

As you said earlier though, we assume it is so easy. It's not like the dunk contest is in the summer time after they have had a month or so to rest. Like you said, we assume it is easy to jump, move the ball, and twist your body then dunk it with consistency and accuracy. Shooting 25 balls in one minute does not take as much energy, is not as tiring nor does it create the same kind of impact on your body that dunking and landing does.



it takes a lot of energy to shoot 25 balls in a minute... you feel it in your arms and legs... it doesn't seem like that big a deal but try it one day... I promise you you'll be winded. And yeah sure these guys are pros.. but it's still tough. But you're right it doesn't take the same kind of impact as a dunk... which is what makes the dunks so tough.

I dont' know.... I feel that these guys go to All-star weekend... they shouldn't have to be coaxed into participating. The fact that they got wade and lebron to participate in the skills challenge is a big improvement. I hope they can continue to add on more superstars to All-star saturdays.

[LarryLegend]

Nate had too many chances.

Oh and when will KG demand the trade? I say mid April.

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it takes a lot of energy to shoot 25 balls in a minute... you feel it in your arms and legs... it doesn't seem like that big a deal but try it one day... I promise you you'll be winded. And yeah sure these guys are pros.. but it's still tough. But you're right it doesn't take the same kind of impact as a dunk... which is what makes the dunks so tough.

I dont' know.... I feel that these guys go to All-star weekend... they shouldn't have to be coaxed into participating. The fact that they got wade and lebron to participate in the skills challenge is a big improvement. I hope they can continue to add on more superstars to All-star saturdays.

I have, trust me I have and I did not say it is not tiring, I just said it is not as tiring.

Yeah I agree, they should want to participate in those events. But like I said, most athelete's today, just don't care.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Nate had too many chances.

Oh and when will KG demand the trade? I say mid April.

He won't, I don't see him as being that kind of player. Maybe in the offseason. But I don't think he will do it during the season.

[Alpha and Omega]

He won't, I don't see him as being that kind of player. Maybe in the offseason. But I don't think he will do it during the season.

I don't see him demanding a trade during the season either. Minnesota's franchise has no attraction besides KG; they'll do almost anything to keep him.

He might demand a trade in the offseason, but that's a big 'if' also.

[Superman_20]

it takes a lot of energy to shoot 25 balls in a minute... you feel it in your arms and legs... it doesn't seem like that big a deal but try it one day... I promise you you'll be winded. And yeah sure these guys are pros.. but it's still tough. But you're right it doesn't take the same kind of impact as a dunk... which is what makes the dunks so tough.



it definitely is good practice though, i use to have a trainer do that with me when i was in high school because i wanted to improve my catch and release skills, and after going through that several times a day everyday, i got the hang of it, catch and release shots became very easy, and it improved my range quiet a bit also, and to this day i still can hit shots in catch and release situations

[Go Web Go!]

Yep..and did any one notice Labron's ball hogging and the airball in the 1st quarter that made him look like an ass?

Yes sir. It's like he wanted to outscore everyone early on so that he wouldn't have to worry about it as the game went on. He definitely went into this game knowing he was going to win MVP hence all the shots (lots o' misses)

Boo Lebron. Boo.

[Erundur]

not a big fan of LeBron :down

[Assassin]

me either

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Stupid Warriors :mad:

[Assassin]

He didn't play college and has only been in the league for 2 years. When exactly was he supposed to do all this winning outside of high school?



The all-star MVP is nearly always debateable, but it seems to me he had the most outstanding performance on the winning team.

As far as ROY, the man went 21/6/6. There aren't too many veterans that can do that.

21/6/6 in his rookie year; 27/7/7 his 2nd season; and this year he's 31/7/7. I'd say that hype is being lived up to.

What more do you want from him?

Denver made it to th eplayoffs :D



He didnt:down

[Ultimate_Superman]

Wizards are going to win tonight :up:Great Avatar :up::up::up::up:

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Denver made it to th eplayoffs :D



He didnt :down

One person can't take their team to the playoffs.

[Assassin]

but..damn it whats his name! should have been rookie of the year, he had almost the same points and he took denver to the playoffs

[Super_Ludacris]

Melo?

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but..damn it whats his name! should have been rookie of the year, he had almost the same points and he took denver to the playoffs

I will agree that he and Lebron should have shared it 100%.

[Bizzybone]

One person can't take their team to the playoffs.

michael Jordan took the bulls to the finals.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

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michael Jordan took the bulls to the finals.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

Not in his rookie year.

[Alpha and Omega]

One person can't take their team to the playoffs.

I hope you're wrong.:o :(

[Assassin]

YEAaaaaaaa

Carmello Anthony!

Thanks

[Lobo]

BREAKING NEWS

Steve Francis is a Knick


Just reported on WFAN by Mike and the Mad Dog

Penny and Ariza go to NY for Stevie Franchise

[Bizzybone]

Not in his rookie year.

True.

[NOFX]

By Chris Sheridan
ESPN Insider


Steve Francis is headed to New York under a deal agreed to Wednesday by the Knicks and the Orlando Magic, ESPN.com has learned.



Francis


The teams agreed to a trade of Francis for Penny Hardaway and Trevor Ariza, two league sources with knowledge of the deal told ESPN.com.

The trade was expected to be announced later Wednesday afternoon after being called in to the league office.

In New York, Francis will be paired with Stephon Marbury as the highest-paid backcourt duo in the NBA.


Ariza



Hardaway


The Knicks were still talking with several other clubs as team president Isiah Thomas worked at remaking a roster that has stumbled to the league's second-worst record, 15-37.

For the Magic, the trade will provide salary cap relief to a franchise that can now go further beneath the cap than any of the league's 30 teams in the summer of 2007 when a bumper crop of free agents will be on the market, giving Orlando several options in figuring out how to rebuild around 20-year-old power forward Dwight Howard.

[Assassin]

One person can't take their team to the playoffs.

how do the timberwolves make it every year then?

lol

[Alpha and Omega]

Wow. Francis for Ariza and Penny. I know that the Magic wanted plenty of cap space, but wow. :eek: :doom:

[NOFX]

One person can't take their team to the playoffs.
Tim Duncan Can!!!

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how do the timberwolves make it every year then?

lol

They sure as hell are not making it this year, proof that one person can't carry a team.

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Tim Duncan Can!!!

LOL, he hasn't yet.

[Alpha and Omega]

Tim Duncan Can!!!

Ginobli, Parker, Finley, Nesterovic, must I continue?

[NOFX]

They sure as hell are not making it this year, proof that one person can't carry a team.
Tim Duncan Can take any team in the league make them a playoff team!!!

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I hope you're wrong.:o :(

Lakers?

[Assassin]

Tim Duncan Can!!!
tony parker heps, so does seeing Eva in the ****ing crowds every game..i wouldnt wanna loose knowing she's watching:up:

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Tim Duncan Can take any team in the league make them a playoff team!!!

That's different than him taking them to the playoffs by himself.

[NOFX]

Ginobli, Parker, Finley, Nesterovic, must I continue?
Parker wouldnt be as good without Duncan there. Finley only been there since this season. And Tim Duncan has won a championship without all those guys you mentioned!!!

[NOFX]

That's different than him taking them to the playoffs by himself.
:rolleyes:

[Assassin]

Penny is going home?

maybe he'll go back to his glory days

[NOFX]

Penny is going home?

maybe he'll go back to his glory days
LMAO!

[Alpha and Omega]

Parker wouldnt be as good without Duncan there. Finley only been there since this season. And Tim Duncan has won a championship without all those guys you mentioned!!!

No he didn't. Which ones weren't there?

[Alpha and Omega]

Penny is going home?

maybe he'll go back to his glory days

You do mean Sprite commercials w/ Penny and Tyra, right:D?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Parker wouldnt be as good without Duncan there. Finley only been there since this season. And Tim Duncan has won a championship without all those guys you mentioned!!!

Umm I think he won his first with David Robinson. I mean I am not really sure if that guy is any good or anything though.....:D

[Lobo]

By Chris Sheridan
ESPN Insider


Steve Francis is headed to New York under a deal agreed to Wednesday by the Knicks and the Orlando Magic, ESPN.com has learned.



Francis


The teams agreed to a trade of Francis for Penny Hardaway and Trevor Ariza, two league sources with knowledge of the deal told ESPN.com.

The trade was expected to be announced later Wednesday afternoon after being called in to the league office.

In New York, Francis will be paired with Stephon Marbury as the highest-paid backcourt duo in the NBA.


Ariza



Hardaway


The Knicks were still talking with several other clubs as team president Isiah Thomas worked at remaking a roster that has stumbled to the league's second-worst record, 15-37.

For the Magic, the trade will provide salary cap relief to a franchise that can now go further beneath the cap than any of the league's 30 teams in the summer of 2007 when a bumper crop of free agents will be on the market, giving Orlando several options in figuring out how to rebuild around 20-year-old power forward Dwight Howard.

I beat you to it :o

[Assassin]

lol

I Miss Grant hill, he could have been somebody if he just stayed in detroit :(

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:rolleyes:

Give him the Timberwolves and see if he takes them to the playoffs.

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No he didn't. Which ones weren't there?

First time around he did. But then again he had other players.

[Alpha and Omega]

Give him the Timberwolves and see if he takes them to the playoffs.

Timberwolves, LAL w/ out Kobe, the Magic, The Hawks, must I continue?

[NOFX]

No he didn't. Which ones weren't there?
Parker/ginobli wasnt even in the NBA when Duncan won his first championship!

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

lol

I Miss Grant hill, he could have been somebody if he just stayed in detroit :(

Or how about if he didn't get hurt or if they had done his surgery right the first time instead of the 5.

[Alpha and Omega]

First time around he did. But then again he had other players.

He had David Robinson, postseason Robert Horry, Bruce Bowen, and Sean "I played w/ one kidney" Elliot.:o

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Timberwolves, LAL w/ out Kobe, the Magic, The Hawks, must I continue?

Garnett is on the Timberwolves right now, the guy is posting stupid numbers and plays hard everynight. He isn't taking them to the playoffs. Kobe is the best player in the league period and he may not take the Lakers to the playoffs.

[Assassin]

he wouldnt have gotten hurt if he stayed in detroit :p

[NOFX]

Umm I think he won his first with David Robinson. I mean I am not really sure if that guy is any good or anything though.....:D
David Robinson was no longer an all-star by the time Tim Duncan got there!

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He had David Robinson, postseason Robert Horry, Bruce Bowen, and Sean "I played w/ one kidney" Elliot.:o

Hence why I said he had other players, plus I did mention duncan, read my above post.

[Super_Ludacris]

Holy **** Penny Hardaway is going back to Orlando!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


*faints like a WB girl*

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David Robinson was no longer an all-star by the time Tim Duncan got there!

Dude, he was still David Robinson.

[Assassin]

penny and shaq made it to the finals didnt they?

[NOFX]

He had David Robinson, postseason Robert Horry, Bruce Bowen, and Sean "I played w/ one kidney" Elliot.:o
Bowen and Horry were not there when Duncan won his first championship!

[Alpha and Omega]

Hence why I said he had other players, plus I did mention duncan, read my above post.

I know; I was just answering you and crazy NOFX at the same time. :o Sorry. :)

[NOFX]

Dude, he was still David Robinson.
Your right he "Was" David Robinson!

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Bowen and Horry were not there when Duncan won his first championship!

Yeah he was still with the Lakers then

[Alpha and Omega]

Bowen and Horry were not there when Duncan won his first championship!

Bowen was too there and so were Robinson and Elliot.:o

[Alpha and Omega]

penny and shaq made it to the finals didnt they?

They were swept by MJ in the Eastern conference finals 4 - 0.

[NOFX]

Garnett is on the Timberwolves right now, the guy is posting stupid numbers and plays hard everynight. He isn't taking them to the playoffs. Kobe is the best player in the league period and he may not take the Lakers to the playoffs.
Tim Duncan is a great player because he makes everyone on his team better and that team will always be a good defensive team with Duncan on it! Which is why they will make the playoffs if Duncan Was there!

[Alpha and Omega]

Holy **** Penny Hardaway is going back to Orlando!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


*faints like a WB girl*

I don't think that Penny will be doing anymore Sprite commercials.

*shakes head at silly gold-digger:p*

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Bowen was too there and so were Robinson and Elliot.:o

No Bowen didn't arrive until the 01-02 season.

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Tim Duncan is a great player because he makes everyone on his team better and that team will always be a good defensive team with Duncan on it! Which is why they will make the playoffs if Duncan Was there!

Wrong. So does KG. Duncan is great don't get me wrong but you still need at least a decent supporting cast.

[NOFX]

Bowen was too there and so were Robinson and Elliot.:o
Bowen was not there! It was avery johnson, terry porter, Eilliot, Jarome Kersey, Will Purdue, Robinson, Mario Elie, etc...

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

They were swept by MJ in the Eastern conference finals 4 - 0.

Yup, that was awsome. :D

[Assassin]

i was in 4th grade

[Alpha and Omega]

Bowen was not there! It was avery johnson, terry porter, Eilliot, Jarome Kersey, Will Purdue, Robinson, Mario Elie, etc...

D'oh, I was mixing Bowen up w/ Elie. Mario Elie was crazy, but that sucker always hit a three when they needed one.

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i was in 4th grade

Highschool

[NOFX]

Wrong. So does KG. Duncan is great don't get me wrong but you still need at least a decent supporting cast.
WTF happen last year??? They still had Sprewell, Cassel and they still couldnt make the playoffs last year!!! Duncan is far better player than KG!!! ANd KG doenst make his teammates better!

[Assassin]

i'm 20 now..that makes you old as **** :up:

[NOFX]

D'oh, I was mixing Bowen up w/ Elie. Mario Elie was crazy, but that sucker always hit a three when they needed one.
I hated that fool, he swept my lakers that year!!!:mad:

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WTF happen last year??? They still had Sprewell, Cassel and they still couldnt make the playoffs last year!!! Duncan is far better player than KG!!!

Want me to tell you what happend last year? Sprewell didn't give a **** because he wanted more money, so it didn't matter to him. Cassell pulled a smiliar thing but blammed his back and injuries on his play, but he really wanted money.

Notice how well Cassell is playing this year in LA? His back looks fine to me.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

i'm 20 now..that makes you old as **** :up:

I'm only 4 year's older than you ********, how old were you in the 4th grade? 12?

[NOFX]

Want me to tell you what happend last year? Sprewell didn't give a **** because he wanted more money, so it didn't matter to him. Cassell pulled a smiliar thing but blammed his back and injuries on his play, but he really wanted money.

Notice how well Cassell is playing this year in LA? His back looks fine to me.
Cassel is getting the same money he had last year!!!

[Alpha and Omega]

I hated that fool, he swept my lakers that year!!!:mad:

:eek: Why did you have to say that? :(

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Cassel is getting the same money he had last year!!!

You're still missing the point, the point is he did not play as well, regardless of money or injury.

[NOFX]

:eek: Why did you have to say that? :(
I still have that game on tape, it was that heartbreaking game 2:( My heart still hurts from that Game:mad:

[NOFX]

You're still missing the point, the point is he did not play as well, regardless of money or injury.
Cassel Has been consistently missing games this year and Elton Brand has still carried his team to the 5 spot of the western conference. And I might add without maggette too!

[Assassin]

I'm only 4 year's older than you ********, how old were you in the 4th grade? 12?

Thats not possible then buddy, i remember being on th ebuss in the morning when they said orlando, chitown and who ever was left on the west

I was in 4th or 5thy, but i'm pretty sure it was 4th grade..and i'm a year younger than most ppl who were in 4th grade because i graduated high school at 17

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Cassel Has been consistently missing games this year and Elton Brand has still carried his team to the 5 spot of the western conference. And I might add without maggette too!

He is still playing better this year than he did last year. That is my point, KG was still basically on a medicore team with either hurt players or players not wanting to play. Duncan would have just as much trouble or close to.

[NOFX]

He is still playing better this year than he did last year. That is my point, KG was still basically on a medicore team with either hurt players or players not wanting to play. Duncan would have just as much trouble or close to.
Duncan when his 100% he gives you at least 42 wins a season!!!

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Thats not possible then buddy, i remember being on th ebuss in the morning when they said orlando, chitown and who ever was left on the west

I was in 4th or 5thy, but i'm pretty sure it was 4th grade..and i'm a year younger than most ppl who were in 4th grade because i graduated high school at 17

So you're telling me that it's impossible I was in highschool? Do the math, if I was a freshman and 14, and you were in the 5 grade and 10........1+1=2 :D

Way to go :up:

And I know for a FACT I was a freshman because I made a bet with my friend in the locker room, saying specifically that the Bulls were going to sweep the Magic in the Eastern Finals.

Poor fool never saw it coming.

[NOFX]

2005-06 Power Rankings: Week 16
RANK (LAST WK) TEAM REC. COMMENT
1 (2) Mavericks 41-11 Since Kobe punked them for 62, Mavs have responded by going 23-4. Since Dampier became a sub, Mavs are 15-1 and have allowed 100 points just once.
2 (3) Pistons 42-9 Health and holding off Mavs and Spurs for home-court advantage are all that matter now. Unless you think Pistons have a 28-3 run in them.
3 (1) Spurs 40-12 Dismiss them at your own peril. As fragile as Spurs seem with Duncan and Manu at less than 100 percent, they're on pace to break the franchise record for wins (62).
4 (4) Suns 35-17 No joke: I think Suns can get to the Finals even without Stoudemire, assuming they get all the way to the West finals and let Mavs and Spurs beat each other up first.
5 (5) Nets 28-23 My favorite Nets fan, Sanford, is livid about Kidd's All-Star snub, with Jersey leading its division, but I bet Kidd benefits from a weekend off as much as anyone.
6 (6) Heat 33-20 Between now and April 1, Heat have only four games (out of 18) against teams with winning records. Let's see whether they can stay serious when the schedule is soft.
7 (7) Hornets 29-23 Logic tells you Paul's myriad injuries and rising expectations could cause young Hornets to crumble, but I'm gullible enough to believe in their Cinderella mojo.
8 (8) Clippers 30-21 The reward for being the best Clips ever? Mavs or Spurs in the first round unless they either pass Suns with all these moves they're making ... or drop a slot or two.
9 (11) Cavaliers 31-21 Cavs are just 13-11 without Hughes. But let's set the bar high for the All-Star Game MVP and demand no worse than a 19-11 finish from LBJ's Cavs to get to 50 wins.
10 (10) Pacers 26-23 What a difference a trade makes. Peja already has four 20-point games in his 5-2 start as a Pacer -- after zero 20-point games in the month of January.
11 (12) Grizzlies 29-23 Grizz return to work with the NBA's stingiest defense (87.7 ppg) and the first All-Star in club history (Pau). That's why they're giddier than your typical No. 7 seed.
12 (9) Nuggets 28-26 I don't see any 25-4 runs in their immediate future, but I'd bank on a big finish from a motivated 'Melo ... if rumor-weary Nuggets can regroup after the deadline.
13 (14) Bucks 27-25 Time to solidify their playoff position? Banged-up Bucks reconvened after the All-Star break with a full complement of players for the first time all season.
14 (13) Wizards 26-25 At least one problem solved: Arenas and rest of Wiz won't be pining for Hughes in the second half, knowing that Cavs won't have him, either.
15 (16) Kings 24-29 Credit where credit is due: Artest's arrival has Kings looking more likely to make a playoff push than anyone from No. 9 down in the West. So far, anyway.
16 (18) Lakers 26-26 This is a big reason Lakers spent so much money to get Phil back: Zenmeister teams are 14-for-14 all-time when it comes to making the playoffs.
17 (15) Rockets 22-31 The skeptic in me says that, even though Rockets are still mathematically in the playoff hunt, A-S weekend will prove to be the peak of T-Mac's nightmare season.
18 (21) 76ers 25-27 It's looking like a no-win stretch run. From where they are now, Sixers have to worry about missing the playoffs and the prospect of getting swept by Detroit in Round 1.
19 (19) Bulls 23-29 If the target is making a push for the No. 8 slot, Chicago's nightly target has to be triple digits. The last 20 times they were held under 100 points, Bulls are 2-18.
20 (17) Jazz 25-27 Boozer is finally back to help Kirilenko and Okur, but Jazz have to be wondering whether they were too hasty in parting with Mo Williams and a surging Kirk Snyder.
21 (20) Warriors 24-28 As if the NBA's longest playoff drought weren't enough -- 11 seasons and counting -- Warriors also have the longest All-Star drought now: none since Spree in 1997.
22 (22) Timberwolves 23-29 At just 4-8 with Ricky Davis, and after a 1-4 home stand, you can understand why Wolves are looking to swing one more deal before the trade buzzer.
23 (23) Raptors 20-33 Raps haven't exactly been Mav-like since surrendering Kobe's 81, but they're a decent 5-3 this month, with two OT defeats and last week's two-point loss in NYC.
24 (25) Hawks 16-34 He didn't get a Houston invite, but you'd have to agree that Joe Johnson -- with two game-winning shots and a triple-double -- is having an All-Star Feb. Wouldn't you?
25 (24) Celtics 20-32 Danny Ainge has said Celts are just a move or two away from East contention. I'm pretty sure he said so knowing that cloning Larry Bird is not an option.
26 (26) SuperSonics 20-33 The news just gets bleaker and bleaker in rainy Seattle: No team's winning percentage has fallen further since the end of last season than Sonics' .634 to .377.
27 (27) Magic 19-32 Magic can only hope they do manufacture a Francis trade this week because he won't become any less of a handful if he's stuck in Orlando past Thursday's deadline.
28 (29) Trail Blazers 18-33 I'll go out on a limb and guess that, given all the image problems in Portland in recent years, Rodman's claim that Blazers offered a tryout is probably a fabrication.
29 (30) Knicks 15-37 Probably no one remembers this now, with Knicks at 2-16 since Larry's 1,000th victory, but they were 6-0 in their first six games of 2006. Somehow.
30 (28) Bobcats 14-40 Don't want to make light of a car accident, but the news that Felton was injured during a weekend off is sadly no surprise in Bobcats' season of injury misery.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Duncan when his 100% he gives you at least 42 wins a season!!!

You have nothing to base that on his talent alone though. He has always had help or role players that understood their role and do what they are supossed to do.

If Odom and Brown were doing what they are supossed to do right now, they would be the 4-6 seed.

[Assassin]

what year was it?

95?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

what year was it?

95?

95-96 season

[NOFX]

You have nothing to base that on his talent alone though. He has always had help or role players that understood their role and do what they are supossed to do.

If Odom and Brown were doing what they are supossed to do right now, they would be the 4-6 seed.
Im sorry but Odom and Brown are doing what they supposed to do which is why the Lakers are currently on the 8th spot!

[Alpha and Omega]

Im sorry but Odom and Brown are doing what they supposed to do which is why the Lakers are currently on the 8th spot!

:rolleyes: NOFX: Odom is 6'10/11" and he won't post up:confused: Nuff said.:o

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Im sorry but Odom and Brown are doing what they supposed to do which is why the Lakers are currently on the 8th spot!

No, no they are not.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

:rolleyes: NOFX: Odom is 6'10/11" and he won't post up:confused: Nuff said.:o

Won't? I thought it was can't? :D

[Alpha and Omega]

Won't? I thought it was can't? :D

Exactly. I hope we trade him to Atlanta for Al Harrington. :o

[Super_Ludacris]

Why are Orlando even tripping like tey traded for Penny's contract only and not Penny. They got unconstructive future plans they might as well put him back in a Magic Unifrom

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Exactly. I hope we trade him to Atlanta for Al Harrington. :o

Don't see it happening though.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Why are Orlando even tripping like tey traded for Penny's contract only and not Penny. They got unconstructive future plans they might as well put him back in a Magic Unifrom

I don't know, but they seriously need to start building around Howard, that kid is a monster already. In 3 or 4 years he is just going to be scary.

[NOFX]

:rolleyes: NOFX: Odom is 6'10/11" and he won't post up:confused: Nuff said.:o
Thats because he cant get the ball!

[NOFX]

No, no they are not.
That is exactly How I predicted for Odom and Brown to play this year!

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

That is exactly How I predicted for Odom and Brown to play this year!

Guess you didn't have high expectations for them then.

[Assassin]

i still say detroit is going all the way.

I'm out, later

[NOFX]

Guess you didn't have high expectations for them then.
No, I just knew what type of players Odom and Brown are! Like I said earlier they should have kept Caron Butler! On another note Ducan can take any team in the league make them playoff contenders!

[NOFX]

I Just Owned All Your Azzs!!!

[Assassin]

shut up

[Alpha and Omega]

No, I just knew what type of players Odom and Brown are! Like I said earlier they should have kept Caron Butler! On another note Ducan can take any team in the league make them playoff contenders!

Maybe in the Eastern Conference. Nofx, you're silly. :rolleyes:

[NOFX]

Maybe in the Eastern Conference. Nofx, you're silly. :rolleyes:
No! The entire league! Duncan has 3 Championships for a reason!

[Alpha and Omega]

No! The entire league! Duncan has 3 Championships for a reason!

He's never won a championship w/out another viable 2nd or 3rd option Nofx.

[NOFX]

He's never won a championship w/out another viable 2nd or 3rd option Nofx.
Ducan is soooo good all he needs is just a 2nd and 3rd option!

[Super_Ludacris]

He's never won a championship w/out another viable 2nd or 3rd option Nofx.


Who has won a championship without a viable 2nd or 3rd option though?

[NOFX]

Who has won a championship without a viable 2nd or 3rd option though?
Exactly! The best year Ducan ever had was the year he won his first championship!!! Damn he was soooo good he made Shaq look like Medvedenko!

[Alpha and Omega]

Who has won a championship without a viable 2nd or 3rd option though?

Nobody, save Will Chamberlain and Bill Russell. That wasn't the point though. Nofx is riding Timmy D, and I'm trying to help him calm down. The guy is basically dumping Goldbond on Duncan's jockstrap; Yes Nofx, Duncan is a good player, but he couldn't sustain a team by himself. He would mirror KG in Minnesota.:o

[NOFX]

Nobody, save Will Chamberlain and Bill Russell. That wasn't the point though. Nofx is riding Timmy D, and I'm trying to help him calm down. The guy is basically dumping Goldbond on Duncan's jockstrap; Yes Nofx, Duncan is a good player, but he couldn't sustain a team by himself. He would mirror KG in Minnesota.:o
Ok put KG in the Spurs and almost every NBA Critic will tell you that the mav/pistons will have a better chance of winning the championship with KG on the spurs than Ducan!

[Alpha and Omega]

Ok put KG in the Spurs and almost every NBA Critic will tell you that the mav/pistons will have a better chance of winning the championship with KG on the spurs than Ducan!

They're basically the same. 20 - 10 - 7/8 / night Nofx.

[NOFX]

They're basically the same. 20 - 10 - 7/8 / night Nofx.
Difference is Ducan makes his teammates better! Which doenst show in the stats!!!





























































OWNED!

[Alpha and Omega]

:rolleyes: Duncan has BETTER teammates Nofx. Name one player on Kg's team who is/was as good as Ginobli or Parker. Can you?

And you've never owned me. . . . never will. . . . impossible. . . . the Hawks will win a ship first. . . .the Nets will move to Brooklyn first. . . . You own the bottle of Goldbond you keep safely hidden in Timmy's locker. :D

[Super_Ludacris]

Nobody, save Will Chamberlain and Bill Russell. That wasn't the point though. Nofx is riding Timmy D, and I'm trying to help him calm down. The guy is basically dumping Goldbond on Duncan's jockstrap; Yes Nofx, Duncan is a good player, but he couldn't sustain a team by himself. He would mirror KG in Minnesota.:o


Even Will had Elgin Baylor and Jerry West and some dudes in Philly

And Bill had Cousy (If my NBA Memory doesn't fail me):o

[Alpha and Omega]

Even Will had Elgin Baylor and Jerry West and some dudes in Philly

And Bill had Cousy (If my NBA Memory doesn't fail me):o

Not for every ship.:( Nofx is claiming that Tim Duncan can take a team to the championship by himself. I'm saying that it's highly improbable. I really don't see what the conflict of interests is. :O

[DarthRekal]

Franchise to the KNicks...for penny and trevor ariza:eek:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2339941

looks like the LAKERS are dead in the water again:mad:

[Super_Ludacris]

End of the day everyone has credible 2nd or 3rd options who are Superstars themselves. But the Super-Superstar franchise players make them better and vice versa.

I dont know who that point helps, but you 2 fight for it amongst yourselves like a jumpball

*blows the whistle*

[Super_Ludacris]

Franchise to the KNicks...for penny and trevor ariza:eek:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2339941

looks like the LAKERS are dead in the water again:mad:


[2 Pages ago] Hellooooo [/2 Pages ago]

[DarthRekal]

[2 Pages ago] Hellooooo [/2 Pages ago]


LOL sorry ..i dont read anything but the last page..and yall was talkin history............

[Alpha and Omega]

End of the day everyone has credible 2nd or 3rd options who are Superstars themselves. But the Super-Superstar franchise players make them better and vice versa.

I dont know who that point helps, but you 2 fight for it amongst yourselves like a jumpball

*blows the whistle*

*Nofx aka Kwame is looking for the ball*

*AO hazes Kwame after practice* :D

Sooo, Stevie Franchise and Marbury. Who predicts a fight before the season is over?

[Super_Ludacris]

lol it's all good

[Mister J]

This thread has been busy. Lemme try to catch up...


Penny and Brian Hill are back in Orlando? ONly in the NBA.

Wilt had Jerry West, but no Baylor, for his only ring in 1972.

Russell, for every championship he won, played with either Cousy, Havlickek or Sam Jones

It's possible, but extremely difficult, for one person (alone) to led a team to the playoffs, let alone a championship. Nobody, NOBODY, wins a ring by themselves.

Tim Duncan is a great player, a certain HOF guy. He can make any team 'playoff contenders', but getting to the playoffs really doesn't mean alot unless you have the guns to really advance. Furthermore, 'playoff contender' doesn't mean you get in, it just means you're in the running. Shoot, the team in 10th place with 2 weeks left in the season is a 'playoff contender'.

NOFX, please calm down. When did conjecture and speculation lead to owning somebody? Duncan is extremely talented, but he's also been fortuntate always having a good surrounding cast. KG has never had the right pieces. He can and has certainly made guys better. However, they gotta bring something to the table to begin with.

[Super_Ludacris]

Sadly Penny wont even play a single game in Orlando, hell he wont even show up in Orlando. The contract is up after this season and he's rehabbing in Houston. The whole reason they took his contract was for cap space

But oh pleeeeeease, I hope he suits up

[Mister J]

Penny has had one of the wackiest careers in League history. This man was one of the best guards in the entire League and a lock All-Star. Now look at him. Yeah, yeah, I know...injuries. Still, it's like he's crippled.

[Alpha and Omega]

NOFX, please calm down. When did conjecture and speculation lead to owning somebody? Duncan is extremely talented, but he's also been fortuntat always having a good surrounding cast. KG has never had the right pieces. He can and has certainly made guys better. However, they gotta bring something to the table to begin with.

Thanks MJ. :D and Nofx, we're alright; you just needed to seriously think about the nonsensical things you were typing. Pure habadasheric tomfoolery. . . if you get my drift:o

But oh pleeeeeease, I hope he suits up

You want him to score 40 so he can get another Sprite commercial. . . I do too. Those ads were great.:O

[Alpha and Omega]

Penny has had one of the wackiest careers in League history. This man was one of the best guards in the entire League and a lock All-Star. Now look at him. Yeah, yeah, I know...injuries. Still, it's like he's crippled.

Larry Hughes is the new 'Penny' in a weird twisted sort of way.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

No! The entire league! Duncan has 3 Championships for a reason!

Yeah because he was put on the right team with the right players :rolleyes:

Dude, even Jordan needed Pippen, Kerr, Armstrong, Grant, Paxton and on.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Nobody, save Will Chamberlain and Bill Russell. That wasn't the point though. Nofx is riding Timmy D, and I'm trying to help him calm down. The guy is basically dumping Goldbond on Duncan's jockstrap; Yes Nofx, Duncan is a good player, but he couldn't sustain a team by himself. He would mirror KG in Minnesota.:o

Thank you

[Mister J]

Larry Hughes is the new 'Penny' in a weird twisted sort of way.

Now, come on. Larry's been hurt for one year (not even the full season) after getting to All-Star calibur. Penny's been hurt since what, like 98.

The new Penny is... I don't know really. I've never seen somebody drop off like this unless they were a druggie.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Now, come on. Larry's been hurt for one year (not even the full season) after getting to All-Star calibur. Penny's been hurt since what, like 98.

The new Penny is... I don't know really. I've never seen somebody drop off like this unless they were a druggie.

Well Grant Hill went down hill pretty quick due to injuries.

[Super_Ludacris]

Now, come on. Larry's been hurt for one year (not even the full season) after getting to All-Star calibur. Penny's been hurt since what, like 98.

The new Penny is... I don't know really. I've never seen somebody drop off like this unless they were a druggie.

Grant Hill? I mean they came up together but still