Fullmetal Alchemist discussion

[PyroProductions]

If you watch this amazing show, discuss it here. New season, old season...it doesn't matter. I am entwined within this story and was wondering who else watches it.

Also, is the long-haired kid a homonculus of Alphonse? That was really weird that he had the right arm and left leg of Ed. It also kind of looks like Al. Why must I wait one more week to find out!

[Tamanon]

I don't think he's of Al......the Right arm was given up to bring their mom back, the leg was given up to bond Al's soul. I don't know if he actually died or not..... And I'm relatively sure all the questions won't be answered next episode;)

[X-Ray]

i'll hold back ... don't wanna spoil the whole series ;)

[PyroProductions]

I don't think he's of Al......the Right arm was given up to bring their mom back, the leg was given up to bond Al's soul. I don't know if he actually died or not..... And I'm relatively sure all the questions won't be answered next episode;)



while this may be true, Ed did see the kid in the gateway...and also was talking about how if it was equivalent exchange, why did the kid have his arm and leg?
there is also the unanswered question of how homonculi are created
idk..i guess we will just have to wait it out

yeah, X-Ray, my bro has seen the Japanese dubbed versions
and he almost told me
and i went psycho
:D

[TheVileOne]

If you watch this amazing show, discuss it here. New season, old season...it doesn't matter. I am entwined within this story and was wondering who else watches it.

Also, is the long-haired kid a homonculus of Alphonse? That was really weird that he had the right arm and left leg of Ed. It also kind of looks like Al. Why must I wait one more week to find out!

I've seen every episode AND the movie. If you guys have any questions, feel free to ask.

This is my favorite anime series of all time. Its just such a beautiful and emotional story.

I just picked up Volume 5 on DVD. Its got audio commentary by the English dub VA's. Awesome stuff :) .

[PyroProductions]

I've seen every episode AND the movie. If you guys have any questions, feel free to ask.

This is my favorite anime series of all time. Its just such a beautiful and emotional story.

I just picked up Volume 5 on DVD. Its got audio commentary by the English dub VA's. Awesome stuff :) .

nice
i'm still waiting for the Season One of the english version to come out. I want my girlfriend to see them

[TheVileOne]

Well Volumes 1-5 (Episodes 1-20) on DVD fill the first boxset.

[PyroProductions]

true, but thats like 15-20 dollars a set, meh....i want it so bad!

[TheVileOne]

Maybe, but its worth EVERY penny :) .

[Swordmaster]

I hate that its on so late at night

[TheVileOne]

Its on 10:30 PM where I live.

The reason its on so late is so they can only make the minimum amount of edits.

Use a VCR dude...or get the DVD's :) .

[WallCrawl]

Its on 10:30 PM where I live.

The reason its on so late is so they can only make the minimum amount of edits.

Use a VCR dude...or get the DVD's :) .

my VCR broke. I'm surprised how expensive VCR's still are. I just download episodes that I miss.

[PyroProductions]

its on at 10:30 where i live too...but its on a saturday
you cant stay up till midnight on saturday?

[WallCrawl]

its on at 10:30 where i live too...but its on a saturday
you cant stay up till midnight on saturday?

Who stays home on a saturday night? :o

[TheVileOne]

Who stays home on a saturday night? :o

Seeing as to how Adult Swim gets such great ratings...quite a few people do I imagine.

[Swordmaster]

its on at 10:30 where i live too...but its on a saturday
you cant stay up till midnight on saturday?

I can. I choose not to :o

[PyroProductions]

Who stays home on a saturday night? :o


my saturdays revolve around this show!! then i go out
haha

[PyroProductions]

yeah, so TheVileOne, my co-worker decided to cheat and download the next three episodes, so I had him spoil it for me...although i had kind of guessed it already

So the teacher HAD tried human transmutation before on her stillborn, and when it turned out like Ed and Al's mom, she put it back in the Gateway. And apparantly, I'm still not sure how this works though, but the baby was the one who took Ed's limbs, and thats why he has them now. I assume he figured out a way to get out of the Gateway using the limbs. So now its just a matter of will they be able to get Al back through the Gateway?? It is apparently possible to do this, because Teacher's kid did it.

[TheVileOne]

Yeah that's pretty much it. It was pretty obvious that Izumi had tried seeing as to how she can perform alchemy using her body as an array and how both herself and her husband knew how homunculi were created.

[PyroProductions]

that was it
i knew i didnt just pull the theory out of my ass!
my co-worker was trying to figure out how i came to the conclusion
I still dont quite get the concept of how homunculi are created though

[guitarsingerguy]

Yeah, killer show. I read spoilers of the new movie, and I can't wait. Any ideas on when we'll see an English dub, if ever?

[guitarsingerguy]

Well Volumes 1-5 (Episodes 1-20) on DVD fill the first boxset.

So is there an actual boxset out yet or do you know something we don't?

[TheVileOne]

So is there an actual boxset out yet or do you know something we don't?

Funimation released a box set that comes with Volume 1 of the series on DVD, the official soundtrack, and a tin that holds the first five volumes on DVD.

[PyroProductions]

wow i had no idea they had one of those out
about how much does that cost?

[PyroProductions]

man last nights episode kicked ass
when Izumi ran in there and started just breaking stuff up to get her kid back...and things just escalated and got worse...i love it!

[TheVileOne]

wow i had no idea they had one of those out
about how much does that cost?

I think I got it for like $35 at Best Buy.

[guitarsingerguy]

I think I got it for like $35 at Best Buy.

Yeah, you can get it for $29.99 off of deepdiscountdvd.com. After Christmas I'll have to pick up the entire set.

[TheVileOne]

Yeh. Keep in mind the first set only comes with Volume 1 on DVD.

Volumes 2 - 5 are all separate.

[PyroProductions]

Yeh. Keep in mind the first set only comes with Volume 1 on DVD.

Volumes 2 - 5 are all separate.


thats what i figured, that it just came with a tin that would hold the rest of the volumes after you buy them

[Frank]

Anyone know where I can find some scanlations? I read the first 40 chapters and now I needs more.

[PyroProductions]

Anyone know where I can find some scanlations? I read the first 40 chapters and now I needs more.


what is a scanlation?

[guitarsingerguy]

Yeh. Keep in mind the first set only comes with Volume 1 on DVD.

Volumes 2 - 5 are all separate.

Yeah, I'm looking at about $102 getting the whole first volume from deepdiscountdvd. The only problem is now they've got volume 2 starting to come out. :(

[PyroProductions]

I wouldn't mind spening the money though
It would be well worth it

[WallCrawl]

what is a scanlation?

A scan of the original japanese manga that has been fan edited to include english translations of the text.

[PyroProductions]

A scan of the original japanese manga that has been fan edited to include english translations of the text.


ah, i havent read any of the mangas, i just watch the show.
so i wouldn't know where to find any, Frank...sorry.
Try googling it

[Frank]

That's how i found the first 40 chapters. I usually like reading the scanlations over the anime because they're usually way farther ahead.

[PyroProductions]

That's how i found the first 40 chapters. I usually like reading the scanlations over the anime because they're usually way farther ahead.

ahhh...i may have to check that out in the future

[TheVileOne]

So any thoughts on the latest episode?

Episode 30?

[guitarsingerguy]

Well, we all knew the limbs were really Ed's. It also explained why Izumi was so pissed off at them for doing human transmutation. I was glad to see that it went deeper than simply breaking some stupid rule. I'm curious how in the hell she's still sustaining herself. How long could it have taken for her other organs to overcompensate for the ones that are missing? I can only assume maybe there is more to that than meets the eye.

[guitarsingerguy]

There's a few other things I'm curious about. What exactly is Tucker's game? How long has he been working with the homonculi? Obviously when Ed found him in lab 5 in his chimaera form, he had been working with them, but for how long exactly? Had he been working with them the whole time? Is he there by choice or by force? Also, in episode 30, he seemed to be siding with a different group of homonculi. The inculsion of the Crimson Alchemist gives that away. The original group was trying to sacrifice him as one of the offerings to make a philosopher's stone, but this group has him as a henchman. I'm probably just reading too much into it.

[TheVileOne]

There's a few other things I'm curious about. What exactly is Tucker's game? How long has he been working with the homonculi? Obviously when Ed found him in lab 5 in his chimaera form, he had been working with them, but for how long exactly? Had he been working with them the whole time? Is he there by choice or by force? Also, in episode 30, he seemed to be siding with a different group of homonculi. The inculsion of the Crimson Alchemist gives that away. The original group was trying to sacrifice him as one of the offerings to make a philosopher's stone, but this group has him as a henchman. I'm probably just reading too much into it.

Well let's do the math. Tucker was supposedly "executed" after Ed turned 12. Ed encountered the new Chimera Tucker once again shortly before he turned 16. So he's been like that and running experiments for nearly 4 years.

Also the ONLY homunculus in the group Tucker was talking to is Greed. Crimson Alchemist = Kimbley.

Well, we all knew the limbs were really Ed's. It also explained why Izumi was so pissed off at them for doing human transmutation. I was glad to see that it went deeper than simply breaking some stupid rule. I'm curious how in the hell she's still sustaining herself. How long could it have taken for her other organs to overcompensate for the ones that are missing? I can only assume maybe there is more to that than meets the eye.

Well. She already had her sickness when she first met the Elrics, who were probably around 10 and 11 at the time. So she's been able to sustain herself for over a period of 6-7 years.

We don't know how its able to work like that, even the doctor does not. Obviously its not doing a great job since she's coughing up blood.

[guitarsingerguy]

Well let's do the math. Tucker was supposedly "executed" after Ed turned 12. Ed encountered the new Chimera Tucker once again shortly before he turned 16. So he's been like that and running experiments for nearly 4 years.

Also the ONLY homunculus in the group Tucker was talking to is Greed. Crimson Alchemist = Kimbley.

But Tucker was involved in attempting to make Ed create a philosopher's stone using all those prisoners correct? Which means he must have been in cahoots (yes, I just said cahoots) with the group of homonculi we were first introduced to. So, the inclusion of the Crimson Alchemist being in the same group that Tucker was in in episode 30 makes me think there is some sort of separation between the homonculi and Tucker is either switching sides or playing both. Like I said, I'm probably reading into that way too much.



Well. She already had her sickness when she first met the Elrics, who were probably around 10 and 11 at the time. So she's been able to sustain herself for over a period of 6-7 years.

We don't know how its able to work like that, even the doctor does not. Obviously its not doing a great job since she's coughing up blood.

But it seems like something must have been done immediately to take up the slack. Was something performed on her almost immediately to force her other organs to take up the slack?

[TheVileOne]

But Tucker was involved in attempting to make Ed create a philosopher's stone using all those prisoners correct? Which means he must have been in cahoots (yes, I just said cahoots) with the group of homonculi we were first introduced to. So, the inclusion of the Crimson Alchemist being in the same group that Tucker was in in episode 30 makes me think there is some sort of separation between the homonculi and Tucker is either switching sides or playing both. Like I said, I'm probably reading into that way too much.


Or maybe you are right and on the right track. You'll just have to wait and see ;) .


But it seems like something must have been done immediately to take up the slack. Was something performed on her almost immediately to force her other organs to take up the slack?

Nothing was performed on her. Her internal organs were missing like the doctor said. By all intents and purposes she SHOULD be dead.

But you know, its sort of like this. When homeostasis is altered, organisms will change or adapt so to speak in order to survive.

From the evidence given to us, WE KNOW that Izumi performed human transmutation. Perhaps performing such a process allows her to live without those organs.

[guitarsingerguy]

Vile One, you've seen the movie. Did you feel satisfied? I've heard some people complaining because the makers claimed to tie up all the loose ends, and I've heard that they simply leave more questions at the end of the movie.

[TheVileOne]

Without spoiling anything, all I have to say is this.

The movie was totally in-sync with the tone of the series. Everything happened as it should have.

I was totally satisfied with the movie.

[guitarsingerguy]

Fair enough. Any news on when it's gonna cross shores?

[TheVileOne]

Not until after the series has finished its initial run on Adult Swim. 21 episodes left for this seasons. So that's well into 2006.

Since its usually about a year...I'll say mid-late summer 2006.

What's really cool about Fullmetal Alchemist though is that it essentially premiered on Adult Swim in the US right after it finished in Japan.

[PyroProductions]

deep stuff...so the movie turns out pretty good, eh Vile?
I haven't read anything on it, I kind of want to see this movie with no pre-knowledge...i don't know why, I just do.

[guitarsingerguy]

Not until after the series has finished its initial run on Adult Swim. 21 episodes left for this seasons. So that's well into 2006.

Since its usually about a year...I'll say mid-late summer 2006.

What's really cool about Fullmetal Alchemist though is that it essentially premiered on Adult Swim in the US right after it finished in Japan.

Oh wow. I had no idea the series was actually that recent.

[TheVileOne]

deep stuff...so the movie turns out pretty good, eh Vile?
I haven't read anything on it, I kind of want to see this movie with no pre-knowledge...i don't know why, I just do.

Since you are watching the series, you can't help but go in with pre-knowledge of it. The movie is a direct sequel to the series.

[Tamanon]

I thought it was interesting when everyone was in South HQ and Ed makes the comment about "4-way" and the Fuhrer just says "Well, I guess I make it 5".

I wonder if he's working with someone else since we know his secretary is a homonculi. Hrm..........

[TheVileOne]

I thought it was interesting when everyone was in South HQ and Ed makes the comment about "4-way" and the Fuhrer just says "Well, I guess I make it 5".

I wonder if he's working with someone else since we know his secretary is a homonculi. Hrm..........

If you noticed, Fuhrer was in Central HQ talking to Roy Mustang. While at the exact same time he's in SOUTH HQ and said that line.

I can only think of ONE character that can do something like that in Fullmetal Alchemist.

[PyroProductions]

Since you are watching the series, you can't help but go in with pre-knowledge of it. The movie is a direct sequel to the series.

eh i really meant more on the lines of reading plot summaries and things like that, but yeah, i guess i can't help it

[guitarsingerguy]

If you noticed, Fuhrer was in Central HQ talking to Roy Mustang. While at the exact same time he's in SOUTH HQ and said that line.

I can only think of ONE character that can do something like that in Fullmetal Alchemist.

Yeah, I had to point that out to my girlfriend. Poor girl has got no friggin' attention span. :(

[PyroProductions]

Yeah, I had to point that out to my girlfriend. Poor girl has got no friggin' attention span. :(

cuz shes a woman!! (not that im sexist or anything)

[guitarsingerguy]

cuz shes a woman!! (not that im sexist or anything)

No, it's cause she's ****ing crazy and doesn't pay attention to ****!

[PyroProductions]

No, it's cause she's ****ing crazy and doesn't pay attention to ****!

haha true true

[TheVileOne]

Wow...he talks about his own old lady like that :) .

Guitarsingerguy...is your girl hot for Ed? Is she an Ed fangirl or anything like that?

[PyroProductions]

Wow...he talks about his own old lady like that :) .

Yeah, well ya gotta put them in their place or they'll run all over ya!

[guitarsingerguy]

Wow...he talks about his own old lady like that :) .

Guitarsingerguy...is your girl hot for Ed? Is she an Ed fangirl or anything like that?

HAHAHA. No, I actually got her hooked on the show because she thought Nina was so cute. Then she couldn't get over how cute Al's voice was in that huge armor. Once she started watching, it was pretty easy to get her hooked. Now she's just as pumped about the series as I've ever been. And yeah, me and my GF are always talking **** about each other. When you've been together as long as we have, you gotta do something to make it interesting. ;)

[Tamanon]

If you noticed, Fuhrer was in Central HQ talking to Roy Mustang. While at the exact same time he's in SOUTH HQ and said that line.

I can only think of ONE character that can do something like that in Fullmetal Alchemist.

I guess I had unconsciously assumed the scene had ended and that was taking place afterwards. Or that the Homonculi was already represented and so wouldn't be a fifth side:P My bad, heh.

[Tamanon]

HAHAHA. No, I actually got her hooked on the show because she thought Nina was so cute. Then she couldn't get over how cute Al's voice was in that huge armor. Once she started watching, it was pretty easy to get her hooked. Now she's just as pumped about the series as I've ever been. And yeah, me and my GF are always talking **** about each other. When you've been together as long as we have, you gotta do something to make it interesting. ;)

Oof Nina was really cute and all, but what happened must've shocked her!

[guitarsingerguy]

Oof Nina was really cute and all, but what happened must've shocked her!

Of course it did, but you know how it is. Anytime you can become emotionally attatched to characters of any nature, it's hard to stop watching even if something crazy happens.

[Tamanon]

Well that's true, guess that's why episode 25 really made me appreciate the series even more, hah. What a great show:)

[PyroProductions]

Well that's true, guess that's why episode 25 really made me appreciate the series even more, hah. What a great show:)

Yeah, I like the fact that I can connect with these characters, fictional as they may be. It's hard to do that. This show has me by the balls and I don't know if it will let go!

[PyroProductions]

so i just finished reading this first part of the manga..my little bro picked it up the other day and i have to say that the manga is just as good as the show!

[TheVileOne]

The manga and the anime get very divergent later on. Not unlike the Trigun manga and anime. Just like with Trigun, the manga was still a work in progress and the studio had to make a certain number of episodes for the anime. So they had to change the story to make it fit within the 51 episodes of the series and since Hiromu Arakawa is still yet to finish the manga.

There's actually quite a good deal of FMA manga purists that HATE the anime and the changes that were made. Its not unlike the comic book fanboys that don't like the changes made in movies like Spider-man and X-men.

[Trainwreck2100]

What's the name of the movie?

[TheVileOne]

Fullmetal Alchemist: The Conqueror Of Shambala. I suppose it could also be The Emperor of Shambala depending on your translation preference.

Before the anime was dubbed/subtitled officially, everyone had "Touka koukan" fansubbed as "Equivalent trade". When the anime came out in the US it became, "Equivalent exchange."

[guitarsingerguy]

Fullmetal Alchemist: The Conqueror Of Shambala. I suppose it could also be The Emperor of Shambala depending on your translation preference.

Before the anime was dubbed/subtitled officially, everyone had "Touka koukan" fansubbed as "Equivalent trade". When the anime came out in the US it became, "Equivalent exchange."

Well, equivalent exchange just sounds better. But hey, that's why people get paid the big bucks to do translations.

[TheVileOne]

I remember when the otaku first heard "Equivalent exchange" in English and they totally freaked out. They already started threads on how Funimation was "butchering" the anime. Pretty sad, and its just symbolic of the arrogantly paranoid and elitist OTAKU fanboy mindset.

[guitarsingerguy]

I remember when the otaku first heard "Equivalent exchange" in English and they totally freaked out. They already started threads on how Funimation was "butchering" the anime. Pretty sad, and its just symbolic of the arrogantly paranoid and elitist OTAKU fanboy mindset.

Ah, to hell with 'em. I'm enjoying the **** out of their show. As long as they keep sending them over for us to butcher, I'm satisfied. :D

[TheVileOne]

Agreed guitarsingerguy. And just a little suggestion. Great avatar and everything :) , but FYI, Ishbala is the name of the God the Ishbalans (Scar-san) worship. Ishbal is the name of their country.

[guitarsingerguy]

Agreed guitarsingerguy. And just a little suggestion. Great avatar and everything :) , but FYI, Ishbala is the name of the God the Ishbalans (Scar-san) worship. Ishbal is the name of their country.

Whoops. Thanks for the correction. ;)

[guitarsingerguy]

Last nights episode? Thoughts, complaints, orgasms? Anything? :D

[TheVileOne]

Big time revelations in last night's episode as the origins of the homunculi are finally revealed. They are the result of attempted human transmutations. The child now known as Wrath, was Izumi's miscarried baby, who she banished into the Gateway of Alchemy. When Ed attempted the transmutation, Wrath took Ed's limbs. Using the limbs and the power of Ed's alchemy he was able to escape the gate.

We also learned about Greed. It seems there's a division between Greed and the other homunculi. Greed is not their ally and seems to be working toward his own goal. He seems to have a past with Envy and has never met Lust, Sloth, or Wrath before. Envy also mentioned that "all 7 of us are gathered together." Seven sins, those being: lust, sloth, envy, wrath, gluttony, greed, and...Pride. So we've seen all of the homunculi except one, Pride. Who is Pride?

[guitarsingerguy]

Two things Envy said that struck me. The first was, "There is a new Lust now." So homonculi can be brought back multiple times. Interesting. The other thing was "all 7 of us are gathered together AGAIN". Again? Interesting. Since Envy has such hatred for Ed and Al's father, I'm beginning to assume that perhaps the homonculi attempted to get their dad to make a Philosopher's Stone. It also explained why Lust looked so much like Scar's brother's significant other. He attempted a human transmutation of her and Lust was the result. Last thing that's bothering me. If homonculi are caused by human transmutation attempts, then what happened to Ed and Al's mother when they brought her back. She doesn't seem to be one of the homonculi........or is she? Perhpas that is Pride.

[PyroProductions]

yeah, some crazy stuff went down last episode...but guitarsingerguy pretty much asked all the questions I had, namely what happened to Ed and Al's mom.

[TheVileOne]

Two things Envy said that struck me. The first was, "There is a new Lust now." So homonculi can be brought back multiple times. Interesting. The other thing was "all 7 of us are gathered together AGAIN". Again? Interesting. Since Envy has such hatred for Ed and Al's father, I'm beginning to assume that perhaps the homonculi attempted to get their dad to make a Philosopher's Stone. It also explained why Lust looked so much like Scar's brother's significant other. He attempted a human transmutation of her and Lust was the result. Last thing that's bothering me. If homonculi are caused by human transmutation attempts, then what happened to Ed and Al's mother when they brought her back. She doesn't seem to be one of the homonculi........or is she? Perhpas that is Pride.

I think you misinterpreted Envy's quote. Homunculi can't necessarily be brought back multiple times. It just meant that there was a new homunculus going by the moniker as Lust, and another homunculus had been called Lust before.

You guys are very close with some of your predictions.

However, you have enough information to know what happened to Ed and Al's "mom." To give you a hint...NOT Pride.

[guitarsingerguy]

I think you misinterpreted Envy's quote. Homunculi can't necessarily be brought back multiple times. It just meant that there was a new homunculus going by the moniker as Lust, and another homunculus had been called Lust before.

You guys are very close with some of your predictions.

However, you have enough information to know what happened to Ed and Al's "mom." To give you a hint...NOT Pride.

Actually that's what I meant. I just said it wrong. So, if their mom isn't Pride, then that means she's one of the pre-existing homonculi. The only one that it could be is the girl that is sitting in as the Fuhrer's secretary. She does heavily resemble their mom from what I remember of her.

[guitarsingerguy]

Yeah, I take that back. She dosen't just look similar, she's the spitting image just without the wide happy eyes. Wow, I really need to go back and watch all the first episodes. People kinda pop in and out and you forget exactly what they look like.

Trisha Elric
http://www.nautiljon.com/images/perso/miniatures/Fullmetal_Alchemist/trisha_elric.jpg

Sloth
http://www.jasms.de/anime/hagane/sloth01.jpg

[TheVileOne]

If it helps at all...Sloth and Trisha Elric have the SAME voice actress ;) .

[guitarsingerguy]

If it helps at all...Sloth and Trisha Elric have the SAME voice actress ;) .

Well, after seeing the pics I pretty much had it, but haven't the Elrics seen her before? Damn I can't remember. It doesn't help that every woman Al sees reminds him of his mother. Probably part of the reason they do that, to keep you off guard when he says it because he says it so damn much.

[TheVileOne]

Well, after seeing the pics I pretty much had it, but haven't the Elrics seen her before? Damn I can't remember. It doesn't help that every woman Al sees reminds him of his mother. Probably part of the reason they do that, to keep you off guard when he says it because he says it so damn much.

Yes. Both of them have. When Ed first saw her, he looked at her curiously. When Al saw her in episode 22, he said he saw/heard(?) Mom.

The only other time a woman reminded Al of his mother was Psiren/Clara in episode 10 when she was cutting an apple for the old lady at the hospital.

[guitarsingerguy]

Yes. Both of them have. When Ed first saw her, he looked at her curiously. When Al saw her in episode 22, he said he saw/heard(?) Mom.

The only other time a woman reminded Al of his mother was Psiren/Clara in episode 10 when she was cutting an apple for the old lady at the hospital.

That's it! I have to get all the friggin DVDs and rewatch all that crap. :D

[guitarsingerguy]

Another thing that has my damn mind going is what the deal is with Greed being called the ultimate shield. Is that some sort of psuedo nickname or something? And do all the homonculi have these "other" names? Do they just describe each one's particular gifts or something?

[guitarsingerguy]

Vile One, I've got a really odd question that I'm pming to you. I don't want to post it cause it's really off the wall, but just in case it's true, I'd rather have it answered in a pm.

[TheVileOne]

Dude, get the DVD's. They are REQUIRED VIEWING!

Plus, volume 5 has a great audio commentary track by the English VA's.

[guitarsingerguy]

Dude, get the DVD's. They are REQUIRED VIEWING!

Plus, volume 5 has a great audio commentary track by the English VA's.

I know I know. The only issue is that X-mas is coming up and I just don't have the spare cash right now. Looks like I'm gonna have to wait until January to pick them all up.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

This show is AMAZING move over Naruto or w/e that one show is & THANK GOD they did NOT screw up the English Dub. It is PERFECT.

[TheVileOne]

Yeah, Funimation has really come a long way from their DBZ days. They've improved a great deal.

[guitarsingerguy]

Yeah, Funimation has really come a long way from their DBZ days. They've improved a great deal.

And to think, I used to think DBZ got involved. ;)

[Tamanon]

Yeah, the dub for FMA is amazing.

Greed also called Envy the Ultimate....then he paused and said "I guess you want to be called abomination".

Hrm.....wondering what's up with that also!

[guitarsingerguy]

Yeah, the dub for FMA is amazing.

Greed also called Envy the Ultimate....then he paused and said "I guess you want to be called abomination".

Hrm.....wondering what's up with that also!

Well, obviously they have some ugly past. Envy mentioned that he would imprison Greed in the skull again as soon as he found it. So there you go. Envy was the reason that Greed was imprisoned, but in a skull? Strange stuff there. I guess we're just gonna have to wait and see.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Hey guys are the PS2 games for this Series any good ? & are they going to be making more ? Or just these 2 ?

[guitarsingerguy]

Hey guys are the PS2 games for this Series any good ? & are they going to be making more ? Or just these 2 ?

My co-worker (Pyro Productions) has them both I believe. Send him a pm and ask him. He's the one that started the thread here, so one of his posts shouldn't be too hard to find.

[Nathan]

:D

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/051010.jpg

[PyroProductions]

Hey guys are the PS2 games for this Series any good ? & are they going to be making more ? Or just these 2 ?

The games are alright but they aren't very long at all. The first one took me 5 hours the second one took me 7, and they are a little more dumbed down than the show...its worth the rent, I wouldn't buy them though.

guitarsingerguy, I have the first two volumes if you want to borrow them.

[Tamanon]

I've only played game 2, it's pretty fun. Good beat 'em up, the graphics are great though!

[TheVileOne]

That strip is hilarious. Thanks for the link Nathan.

"EQUIVALENT EXCHANGE *****!"

[Nathan]

Because of that strip I have to download the Anime again.

[PyroProductions]

so yeah, I'm pretty excited to find out what tonights episode will hold. the storyline is getting so off the wall!! but then again, thats what I love about this show!

[TheVileOne]

So...Dante, the teacher of Izumi. And the return of Lyra from episode 9. Curious :) .

[Tamanon]

Scar's arm has something to do with souls.....and Greed seems to have a rather nice power indeed, lol. Good episode, damn I hate waiting a week between each new one!

[PyroProductions]

Scar's arm has something to do with souls.....and Greed seems to have a rather nice power indeed, lol. Good episode, damn I hate waiting a week between each new one!

yeah i hear you on that one. i love the show, but hate having to wait the week to see what happens! so, vile, i want to know so bad whats going to happen, but I don't want you to tell me directly!! ahh, it sucks that you know already!

[guitarsingerguy]

So...Dante, the teacher of Izumi. And the return of Lyra from episode 9. Curious :) .

Yeah. And what's up with all the human transmutations going on? Everyone connected to the Elircs seems to have attempted one at some point. Dante created Greed. Izumi created Wrath. The Elric brothers created......I can't remember which one she is. :p I wonder if the reason Envy hates Ed and Al's father so much is because he created him. And Lyra has popped back up. It's hard to believe that is mere coincidence. Have to just wait and see I guess.

[TheVileOne]

yeah i hear you on that one. i love the show, but hate having to wait the week to see what happens! so, vile, i want to know so bad whats going to happen, but I don't want you to tell me directly!! ahh, it sucks that you know already!

Just like Edward becoming a genius and state alchemist at age 12, it took me hard work and effort to know already :up: ;) .

As for what is so bad that is going to happen. Let's just say, the **** has not even BEGUN to hit the fan yet :D .

Very interesting theories guitarsingerguy, let's see how they hold up later.

[PyroProductions]

Just like Edward becoming a genius and state alchemist at age 12, it took me hard work and effort to know already :up: ;) .

As for what is so bad that is going to happen. Let's just say, the **** has not even BEGUN to hit the fan yet :D .

Very interesting theories guitarsingerguy, let's see how they hold up later.

damn, I am really looking forward to it. I have a question, the name of Ed and Al's father, does that have anything to do with anything?

[TheVileOne]

Their father's name is Hohenheim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracelsus

[guitarsingerguy]

Their father's name is Hohenheim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracelsus

Well, what I want to know is why do they block out his face in the picture in the opening credits? Is it someone that we've already seen, and we simply don't know that it's him?

[TheVileOne]

Its building up anticipation for when we finally get to see/meet Hohenheim obviously ;) .

[PyroProductions]

i knew his name was Hohenheim, my little brother told me that, I was just wondering if that plays a major part in the story or if they just don't introduce him as Hohenheim until later.

[TheVileOne]

I think it just correlates to their being an actual prolific alchemist in history named Hohenheim. Other than that its not that significant.

[PyroProductions]

Ah...I hadn't even noticed that they blacked out the fathers picture....interesting

[guitarsingerguy]

I think it just correlates to their being an actual prolific alchemist in history named Hohenheim. Other than that its not that significant.

Well, I told you I'm reading into every little thing. It's not my fault. Every single anime I've ever watched has been very tricky with easily overlooked aspects.

[Tamanon]

Greed is one bad mofo, that's for sure.

Tonight's episode rocked.

"Who the heck are you?"
"I'm PISSED OFF"

Wonder what the hell is in that bag that Kimbley has.....Greed looked scared of it....hrm.....

[TheVileOne]

To give you guys a hint, Envy referenced what was in the bag when Envy and Sloth met up with Greed on the island where Ed, Al, Wrath, and Izumi were on.

[guitarsingerguy]

To give you guys a hint, Envy referenced what was in the bag when Envy and Sloth met up with Greed on the island where Ed, Al, Wrath, and Izumi were on.

Ah, how awesome. The skull that imprisoned Greed. No wonder they had to split so quickly. Obviously there is a bit of bad blood between Izumi and Dante. Dante must not be all that she seems either, considering she was the first person Izumi pointed her finger at.

[PyroProductions]

yeah, that was the first thing I thought, the skull that Greed was imprisoned in. that sure did scare the **** out of him! also, I liked the way they made you think Ed was coming to the rescue, and Izumi busts in. That was awesome.

[TheVileOne]

Now here's the question

How can the homunculi, especially a seemingly invincible one such as Greed be imprisoned by a skull?

[guitarsingerguy]

Now here's the question

How can the homunculi, especially a seemingly invincible one such as Greed be imprisoned by a skull?

Well, I guess to answer that we need to know who the skull belonged to. That would be my first question.

[PyroProductions]

Well, I guess to answer that we need to know who the skull belonged to. That would be my first question.

i didn't even think of that...it would have to be a certain skull wouldn't it

[TheVileOne]

Who the skull belongs to is very important ;) .

[PyroProductions]

Who the skull belongs to is very important ;) .

hmmmm....i hate being on the right track, but not knowing if i'm on the right track or not...

[guitarsingerguy]

Who the skull belongs to is very important ;) .

I have a question for you Vile. If you don't want to answer it here then send me a pm, but is Greed the only homonculus that can be trapped in the skull or can any homonculus be trapped?

[Tamanon]

Spoiler the answer if you post it here please:P

I'm actually enjoying not knowing all the facts about a series beforehand, hehe.

[TheVileOne]

Tonight's an EXTRA crucial episode guys. Do NOT miss it.

All I have to say is...questions will be answered. New ones will be raised :) .

[guitarsingerguy]

PyroProductions spoiled it for me. It actually has a really big question bothering me now though.

[PyroProductions]

PyroProductions spoiled it for me. It actually has a really big question bothering me now though.

Yeah, same here, I couldn't get it off my mind, so I had to ask my little brother whose skull it was...now I know, but I am still looking forward to actually seeing what happens in the episode, because I don't know that yet...I actually guessed whose skull it was previously, but I didn't know for sure when I guessed.

[PyroProductions]

DAYUM!!!! What the **** happened to Dante??!! Was she cut in half?!?! And why was Greed throwing up Philosophers Stones?! (I guess thats what they were...)
Geez, you were right Vile, I have so many questions now!!

[TheVileOne]

DAYUM!!!! What the **** happened to Dante??!! Was she cut in half?!?! And why was Greed throwing up Philosophers Stones?! (I guess thats what they were...)

Those were not the actual Philosopher's Stone. They were the incomplete red stone, made from human lives. They are what give homunculus their healing powers and keep them from dying. That's why Greed wasn't able to heal himself after getting the killing blow from Ed.


Geez, you were right Vile, I have so many questions now!!

If anyone has questions, PM me or something and I will answer.

This was really a great episode for me. Greed turned out to be a not so bad guy. It was important to him that he fought Ed, to teach him not only to kill but how to defeat a homunculus. So homunculi do have a weakness, they CAN be killed.

[guitarsingerguy]

Wow. What a powerful episode. Edward has taken his first life. Greed has actually prepared him to finish his journey. Who would have thought that a homonculus would be the one that cleared the way for him? This episode obviously raises questions about the girl now. What is her part in this whole game? Can she be the final homonculus? If so, how could she use the flanel to perform alchemy? Every episode simply raises more questions, but damn, what a great friggin show.

[guitarsingerguy]

On a final thought, there are seven deadly sins, seven homonculus, for their plans to move forward, do all seven of them have to be accounted for? Greed obviously wasn't going along with what they were planning, but for their true plan to come to fruition does a new Greed have to be born?

[TheVileOne]

Wow. What a powerful episode. Edward has taken his first life. Greed has actually prepared him to finish his journey. Who would have thought that a homonculus would be the one that cleared the way for him? This episode obviously raises questions about the girl now. What is her part in this whole game? Can she be the final homonculus? If so, how could she use the flanel to perform alchemy? Every episode simply raises more questions, but damn, what a great friggin show.

Not necessarily, remember episode 4? Mahjhal? While it was not Ed's intent, he did take his life. This may or may NOT be adressed later ;) .

When you say girl, I suppose you mean Lyra. And did anyone find it interesting that it was LYRA who trapped Greed? Interesting, not only that...but early on the series, Ed totally schooled Lyra and handed her ass to her. Now Lyra can cripple a homunculus. Very interesting indeed ;) .

On a final thought, there are seven deadly sins, seven homonculus, for their plans to move forward, do all seven of them have to be accounted for? Greed obviously wasn't going along with what they were planning, but for their true plan to come to fruition does a new Greed have to be born?

No, it was just coincidence that all 7 were around at the same time for the first time in a long time.

However...there is still ONE homunculus left unaccounted for.

We've met Envy, Lust, Gluttony, Wrath, Greed, and Sloth...but...where is Pride... ? ;)

[guitarsingerguy]

Not necessarily, remember episode 4? Mahjhal? While it was not Ed's intent, he did take his life. This may or may NOT be adressed later ;) .

When you say girl, I suppose you mean Lyra. And did anyone find it interesting that it was LYRA who trapped Greed? Interesting, not only that...but early on the series, Ed totally schooled Lyra and handed her ass to her. Now Lyra can cripple a homunculus. Very interesting indeed ;) .



No, it was just coincidence that all 7 were around at the same time for the first time in a long time.

However...there is still ONE homunculus left unaccounted for.

We've met Envy, Lust, Gluttony, Wrath, Greed, and Sloth...but...where is Pride... ? ;)


I don't remember Mahjhal. And yes Lyra is who I meant. Was she faking in the earlier episode or has her alchemy knowledge grown that extensively, or was she simply given a false Philosopher's Stone by the other homonculus since they seem to have planned on Greed being there and all the other pieces falling into place. And as far as the final homonculus, I'm still sticking with my off the freakin' wall theory on who that is. I don't want to post it here because it's so damn unlikely, but Vile One knows who I'm talking about. ;)

[TheVileOne]

I don't remember Mahjhal.

Before Ed joined the military, he and Al took a detour and met Mahjihal who apparently knew their father. He was actually using alchemy to kill young women in the village to use them as sacrifices to try and resurrect his dead lover using these prosthetic dolls. It turns out his lover never died, but Mahjihal's love for her was only from her superficial beauty. Mahjihal went mad and tried to kill them, but Ed using self-defense inadvertently killed him.

And yes Lyra is who I meant. Was she faking in the earlier episode or has her alchemy knowledge grown that extensively, or was she simply given a false Philosopher's Stone by the other homonculus since they seem to have planned on Greed being there and all the other pieces falling into place.

Well here's a question...why would Lyra have faked getting schooled by Ed at that time?

Also...what happened to Dante? Isn't she like a master alchemist that trained Izumi?


And as far as the final homonculus, I'm still sticking with my off the freakin' wall theory on who that is. I don't want to post it here because it's so damn unlikely, but Vile One knows who I'm talking about. ;)

;)

[guitarsingerguy]

Before Ed joined the military, he and Al took a detour and met Mahjihal who apparently knew their father. He was actually using alchemy to kill young women in the village to use them as sacrifices to try and resurrect his dead lover using these prosthetic dolls. It turns out his lover never died, but Mahjihal's love for her was only from her superficial beauty. Mahjihal went mad and tried to kill them, but Ed using self-defense inadvertently killed him.



Well here's a question...why would Lyra have faked getting schooled by Ed at that time?

Also...what happened to Dante? Isn't she like a master alchemist that trained Izumi?



;)

Oh, yeah. I do remember Mahjhal. Based on what you're saying about Lyra, I can only assume she was persuaded to aid the homonculus. Perhaps Lust took care of Dante and gave Lyra a false Philosopher's Stone and told her how to deal with Greed.

[TheVileOne]

Oh, yeah. I do remember Mahjhal. Based on what you're saying about Lyra, I can only assume she was persuaded to aid the homonculus. Perhaps Lust took care of Dante and gave Lyra a false Philosopher's Stone and told her how to deal with Greed.

That might be it...or it might be something else entirely :) .

[guitarsingerguy]

That might be it...or it might be something else entirely :) .

Damn you Vile. Never leave it past you to plant the seed of doubt. :p

[TheVileOne]

I'm called The VILE One for a reason.

:D :p

[PyroProductions]

Those were not the actual Philosopher's Stone. They were the incomplete red stone, made from human lives. They are what give homunculus their healing powers and keep them from dying. That's why Greed wasn't able to heal himself after getting the killing blow from Ed.

So is that why Lust is able to make the rings with the fake Philosopher Stones? She's just using the ones from her body?

[rigel7soldiers]

Who was that girl? The maid, that is. I know we've seen her a few times before, but I just can't remember the name.

Also, I missed the first few new episodes, so I'm completely lost.

[guitarsingerguy]

So is that why Lust is able to make the rings with the fake Philosopher Stones? She's just using the ones from her body?

No, they're simply refined from the red liquid. Don't you remember the episode where the two boys pretending to be Ed and Al were helping that man refine the red liquid. That's how they make the incomplete red stones.

[PyroProductions]

No, they're simply refined from the red liquid. Don't you remember the episode where the two boys pretending to be Ed and Al were helping that man refine the red liquid. That's how they make the incomplete red stones.

Ah, duh. I've seen that episode several times too.

[TheVileOne]

In case you guys forgot, they were also making incomplete stones in the 5th Laboratory using red liquid. And the red liquid was made using the lives of the prisoners. We know someone in the military is doing or is connected to this. We know Sloth, the Fuhrer's secretary, is involved with it for sure.

The maid's name was Lyra. She used to be the bodyguard for Yoki in a mining town. Ed easily defeated her. Recently she popped up again as the apprentice of Dante. But strangely enough, Dante's body was sliced in half and Lyra was able to take away the red stones from Greed's body.

[guitarsingerguy]

In case you guys forgot, they were also making incomplete stones in the 5th Laboratory using red liquid. And the red liquid was made using the lives of the prisoners. We know someone in the military is doing or is connected to this. We know Sloth, the Fuhrer's secretary, is involved with it for sure.

The maid's name was Lyra. She used to be the bodyguard for Yoki in a mining town. Ed easily defeated her. Recently she popped up again as the apprentice of Dante. But strangely enough, Dante's body was sliced in half and Lyra was able to take away the red stones from Greed's body.

The more you type, the more I think my predicition may be correct.

[TheVileOne]

Maybe I'm trying to give you guys hints ;) .

[PyroProductions]

Maybe I'm trying to give you guys hints ;) .

or maybe we're just really smart.........nah I'll stick with the you giving us hints ;)

[guitarsingerguy]

Maybe I'm trying to give you guys hints ;) .

That's it! My theory is correct until proven wrong!!!!! :p

[PyroProductions]

That's it! My theory is correct until proven wrong!!!!! :p

Haha, I forgot who you told me you think it is and why....if you don't want to post it, just send it in a PM, cause it is really bothering me now. :mad:

[PyroProductions]

So, Vile, are last weeks questions going to be answered in this weeks episode....namely, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO DANTE!!! God, it's bugging me, haha.

[TheVileOne]

No. You already have enough information to know what happened to Dante. At this point I had already figured it out and made an accurate prediction ;) .

I will warn you guys though, the episode we are going to see tomorrow is one of the most raw, depressing, and gut-wrenching episodes of Fullmetal Alchemist. Be forewarned.

[Tamanon]

Holy crap.....I was just starting to feel sympathy for Lust through the episode, but that ending................

Damn, that's depressing.

"You are my little mistake"

:(

[TheVileOne]

This episode is why I NEVER felt sympathy for Lust.

[guitarsingerguy]

Well, we've learned that the homonculus possibly have flashbacks to their former selves, or perhaps this is specific to Lust. Good episode, but one of the least important we seem to have been given in a while.

[TheVileOne]

After an episode like THAT guitarsingerguy, I don't understand how you can just say LEAST important.

When I watched this episode I felt like I was put through a meat grinder and chopped up.

Also homunculus don't really have former selves, just people they were intended to be resurrected as.

[guitarsingerguy]

After an episode like THAT guitarsingerguy, I don't understand how you can just say LEAST important.

When I watched this episode I felt like I was put through a meat grinder and chopped up.

Also homunculus don't really have former selves, just people they were intended to be resurrected as.

I guess all I meant was that it had the least to do with Ed and Al. It had the least to do with the characters at the true heart of the series, that's all. And yeah, I understand that about the homonculus, but obviously Lust was getting memories from somewhere. I guess those are things that were meant to be instilled into the resurrected woman and are some sort of residual effect?

[Corinthian™]

I've been reading the Manga for a while and my girlfriend watches the Anime and we get to discuss..

the Anime is really hard to follow and sometimes it spoils me the story, even tho I'm more advanced in the manga...

I dunno, but I like more the manga than the anime

[TheVileOne]

I guess all I meant was that it had the least to do with Ed and Al. It had the least to do with the characters at the true heart of the series, that's all. And yeah, I understand that about the homonculus, but obviously Lust was getting memories from somewhere. I guess those are things that were meant to be instilled into the resurrected woman and are some sort of residual effect?

Yeah pretty much.

[PyroProductions]

I wonder if Lust actually felt anything for that man....

[TheVileOne]

Yes she did, and that's why she killed him.

[PyroProductions]

Yes she did, and that's why she killed him.

That's what I thought. I didn't think she was capable of it. I felt no sympathy for her, though. She's such a *****! It was a weird episode altogether, but I did like the beginning of it. Also, that was a weird disease...or was it something other than a disease?

[TheVileOne]

Well we do know that Envy himself spread it through the village. So it wouldn't surprise me if the homunculi or someone designed the fossilization epidemic.

[Tamanon]

What's ironic is that Lust killed someone because she was starting to feel emotion for him, but isn't she trying to become human?

Odd....

[TheVileOne]

What's ironic is that Lust killed someone because she was starting to feel emotion for him, but isn't she trying to become human?

Odd....

Its not odd at all. Lust was afraid of the emotions and memories that Lujon brought out from her. She reacted in the way she normally would...stabbiting things as Black Mage would say.

Lust wants to become human, but her problem is that she can't.

[guitarsingerguy]

What's ironic is that Lust killed someone because she was starting to feel emotion for him, but isn't she trying to become human?

Odd....

No, what's truly ironic is that she reacted the way many humans do, by pushing them away. The only problem is that her way of "pushing him away" was to get rid of him.

[PyroProductions]

So, guitarsingerguy, did your girlfriend think it was sweet that Lujon and that other girl died side by side?

[guitarsingerguy]

So, guitarsingerguy, did your girlfriend think it was sweet that Lujon and that other girl died side by side?

No, she kept *****ing about how all he wanted was Lust and not the other chick.

[TheVileOne]

No, what's truly ironic is that she reacted the way many humans do, by pushing them away. The only problem is that her way of "pushing him away" was to get rid of him.

Yes, in many ways, Lust is more human than she thinks she is :) .

That's putting it pretty brilliantly guitarsingerguy.

[guitarsingerguy]

Yes, in many ways, Lust is more human than she thinks she is :) .

That's putting it pretty brilliantly guitarsingerguy.

Uh oh. I must have inadvertantly picked up on something.

[TheVileOne]

Not really guitarsingerguy. But that's a great observation you made about Lust and human nature in general. We try and push things away that are close to us. Lust just takes a more gruesome approach.

[guitarsingerguy]

Not really guitarsingerguy. But that's a great observation you made about Lust and human nature in general. We try and push things away that are close to us. Lust just takes a more gruesome approach.

Well thank you. It's hard to tell when you're dropping hints and when you're not. It keeps us on our toes. :D

[PyroProductions]

No, she kept *****ing about how all he wanted was Lust and not the other chick.

Eh.....women...

[TheVileOne]

Well now we know more about Scar and his brothers' past with alchemy.

It seems the only way to make a Philosopher's Stone is by creating a holocaust through alchemy.

[PyroProductions]

Well now we know more about Scar and his brothers' past with alchemy.

It seems the only way to make a Philosopher's Stone is by creating a holocaust through alchemy.

Yeah, that's pretty ****ed up. So Ed and Al have been searching all this time for a way around it, yet it is inevitable, they will have to kill mass amounts of people. Damn.

[TheVileOne]

Yeah, that's pretty ****ed up. So Ed and Al have been searching all this time for a way around it, yet it is inevitable, they will have to kill mass amounts of people. Damn.

Ed and Al? But who was the one setting out to do it just in this episode?

[PyroProductions]

Ed and Al? But who was the one setting out to do it just in this episode?

Oh ho! I totally forgot about Scar! The episode came on 30 mins early last night, so I watched it at 1 am. Needless to say, I was a little sleep-drunk. But yeah, Scar's been searching for it too. I forgot if they gave a reason as to why? I'd imagine it would have something to do with his brother.

[PyroProductions]

Oh, and they mentioned that person Ed killed in this episode, so he knows he has killed before Greed. Plus, he almost killed all those prisoners in Lab 5.

[TheVileOne]

Oh ho! I totally forgot about Scar! The episode came on 30 mins early last night, so I watched it at 1 am. Needless to say, I was a little sleep-drunk. But yeah, Scar's been searching for it too. I forgot if they gave a reason as to why? I'd imagine it would have something to do with his brother.

Scar wants to use the Philosopher's Stone against the military.

[PyroProductions]

Scar wants to use the Philosopher's Stone against the military.

Oh, that makes sense. And also, everyone who follows Ishbala that has performed alchemy is scarred, or is it something else that is making them scarred?

[TheVileOne]

Do you mean the tattoos on Scars arm? If you remember, Scar's arm belonged to his brother. You'll find out about all this...eventually :) .

[guitarsingerguy]

Do you mean the tattoos on Scars arm? If you remember, Scar's arm belonged to his brother. You'll find out about all this...eventually :) .

I think he's talking about their faces. The old man had his face marked, and I guess he's talking about Scar's face as well. But Scar's face markings weren't to show he was an outcast. Remember the children had seen him several times, and they didn't know he had performed alchemy until he showed his arm and admitted it.

[TheVileOne]

Once again, you will find out the genesis of his facial scar...eventually ;) .

Though you should have enough information to figure out WHO gave it to him.

[guitarsingerguy]

Once again, you will find out the genesis of his facial scar...eventually ;) .

Though you should have enough information to figure out WHO gave it to him.

Bah. More stuff to ponder. Damn you Vile. :p

[PyroProductions]

So is tonights episode going to be back on track? I don't know about the rest of you guys, but it just seems like the past two episodes have just been skipping around.

[TheVileOne]

Tonight's episode is a little different. But I think in the end you will understand the point.

"Difficult times lay ahead" doesn't even begin to cover it.

[PyroProductions]

Tonight's episode is a little different. But I think in the end you will understand the point.

"Difficult times lay ahead" doesn't even begin to cover it.

Sweet, now I'm left in wonder for the rest of the day.

[TheVileOne]

I think you guys should know that things are about to happen, with Scar preparing to make a Philosopher's Stone to cripple the military.

We still don't know who the last homunculus is.

[guitarsingerguy]

I think you guys should know that things are about to happen, with Scar preparing to make a Philosopher's Stone to cripple the military.

We still don't know who the last homunculus is.

Well, PyroProductions and I have been talking at work. We both have a question that we want to know that we know you aren't going to answer, but I'm gonna ask it anyway. Scar was dragging a large stone through a cemetary at the end of the last episode. Can the Philosopher's stone be created using already dead beings? If so, then that isn't that big a deal. I just feel that there was obviously some significance to that shot of Scar, and I can't put my finger on it.

[guitarsingerguy]

Man, what in the hell is going on between Armstrong and Mustang?

[TheVileOne]

Well, PyroProductions and I have been talking at work. We both have a question that we want to know that we know you aren't going to answer, but I'm gonna ask it anyway. Scar was dragging a large stone through a cemetary at the end of the last episode. Can the Philosopher's stone be created using already dead beings? If so, then that isn't that big a deal. I just feel that there was obviously some significance to that shot of Scar, and I can't put my finger on it.

No. The key ingredient to the Philosopher's Stone is as Ed said. "Live human beings, in large quantities."

There is a SPECIFIC reason Scar was in the graveyard. If you looked closely he dug up a grave and REMOVED something from it.

The LOCATION of the grave is also important. I'm going to go ahead and tell you that the graveyard was in what was formerly-ISHBAL.

You should be able to figure it out now ;) .

[guitarsingerguy]

No. The key ingredient to the Philosopher's Stone is as Ed said. "Live human beings, in large quantities."

There is a SPECIFIC reason Scar was in the graveyard. If you looked closely he dug up a grave and REMOVED something from it.

The LOCATION of the grave is also important. I'm going to go ahead and tell you that the graveyard was in what was formerly-ISHBAL.

You should be able to figure it out now ;) .

Ah, I can only assume he dug up his brother's remains.

[TheVileOne]

Ah, I can only assume he dug up his brother's remains.

But why? What does that do?

Don't you remember what certain remains do to CERTAIN THINGS?

;)

[guitarsingerguy]

But why? What does that do?

Don't you remember what certain remains do to CERTAIN THINGS?

;)

Oh ****. He's the final homonculus?!?! Is that what you're getting at?

[TheVileOne]

:rolleyes:

guitarsingerguy, work with me here. I'm giving it to you on a silver platter.

Think back to episode 35. The episode with Lust and that guy Lujon's village. What did we see during Lust's flashbacks?

What did we see during Scar's flashback when he encountered Lust?

[guitarsingerguy]

:rolleyes:

guitarsingerguy, work with me here. I'm giving it to you on a silver platter.

Think back to episode 35. The episode with Lust and that guy Lujon's village. What did we see during Lust's flashbacks?

What did we see during Scar's flashback when he encountered Lust?

Man, you're gonna have to give me a break here. I'm running a fever and my head isn't exactly working too well today. I'm just not putting two and two together here. It's right in front of my face, and I know it. Maybe I'll figure it out when I feel better.

[TheVileOne]

Ok guitarsingerguy. Here you go.

-Forget about Scar's brother being a homunculus.

-Remember what the remains of certain people do to certain things.

-What happened when Scar first saw Lust?

-What were the circumstances of Lust's...CREATION?

Ok, now...with all that in mind, why would Scar be looking in through a graveyard in what was formerly Ishbal?

[guitarsingerguy]

Ok guitarsingerguy. Here you go.

-Forget about Scar's brother being a homunculus.

-Remember what the remains of certain people do to certain things.

-What happened when Scar first saw Lust?

-What were the circumstances of Lust's...CREATION?

Ok, now...with all that in mind, why would Scar be looking in through a graveyard in what was formerly Ishbal?

Okay okay. I'm a retard. Wow.......I can't believe I had to have that spelled out for me.

[TheVileOne]

I know. I need to make you guys work harder for it :) .

[guitarsingerguy]

I know. I need to make you guys work harder for it :) .

Hey man. I'm all out of crazy ass ideas after the one about the Furher (which I'm still sticking by). :p I've been pretty on until this one. And you never really tell us jack!!!!! It's always maybe this and maybe that. What do you mean work HARDER?!?! :mad: :p

[TheVileOne]

Just be happy I've already told you guys a lot more than you deserve :p .

Besides, its no fun if I just spill the beans. I do want you blokes to have fun experiencing it and figuring it out like I did.

[guitarsingerguy]

Just be happy I've already told you guys a lot more than you deserve :p .

Besides, its no fun if I just spill the beans. I do want you blokes to have fun experiencing it and figuring it out like I did.

Don't worry. You aren't spoiling anything. What the hell do you think PyroProductions and I do at work? This is our soap opera. :D

[PyroProductions]

Don't worry. You aren't spoiling anything. What the hell do you think PyroProductions and I do at work? This is our soap opera. :D

Ha ha. It's true. it is all we talk about most of the time when we aren't being random from the boredom.

[PyroProductions]

I got a question for you Vile, and you don't have to answer it here if you don't want to, or you don't even have to answer it at all, but did Scar's brother create Lust?

[guitarsingerguy]

I got a question for you Vile, and you don't have to answer it here if you don't want to, or you don't even have to answer it at all, but did Scar's brother create Lust?

Sherlock Holmes everybody. :D

[TheVileOne]

Look at the last page. I think you know.

[PyroProductions]

Ha, wow. I looked right past that one.

[TheVileOne]

Well...Winry came out and said it. Any thoughts?

Marta's back. I LOVE Tiffany Grant. FYI, she's also the voice of Asuka on Evangelion.

[PyroProductions]

Well...Winry came out and said it. Any thoughts?

Marta's back. I LOVE Tiffany Grant. FYI, she's also the voice of Asuka on Evangelion.

Yeah, and Al's pissed off at Marta too. I don't blame him, though. I would've been as well.

[guitarsingerguy]

The more we see, the more it appears that the Fuhrer is somehow involved. Perhaps not in as "strange" a way as I had predicted, but at this point, I'm almost convinced he is involved in some way, shape, or form.

[PyroProductions]

So is Winry going to wait a long time to tell Ed?

[TheVileOne]

I don't think Ed and Al want Winry where they are going.

[PyroProductions]

So, damn, Rose is now the new "Father Cornello"....did not see that one coming. And all the tension between Mustang and the rest of the military...what is going on between them?

[guitarsingerguy]

So, damn, Rose is now the new "Father Cornello"....did not see that one coming. And all the tension between Mustang and the rest of the military...what is going on between them?

Well, things are obviously coming to a head. We're getting pretty close to the end of the series I do belive. I think there is about 52 episodes or so, and next weeks is episode 40 I believe. It's gonna take that many episodes just to flesh everything out. Next episode we apparently get to learn the origin of Scar's facial scarring. I can't wait cause it's one of the things I've been most curious about.

[PyroProductions]

Well, things are obviously coming to a head. We're getting pretty close to the end of the series I do belive. I think there is about 52 episodes or so, and next weeks is episode 40 I believe. It's gonna take that many episodes just to flesh everything out. Next episode we apparently get to learn the origin of Scar's facial scarring. I can't wait cause it's one of the things I've been most curious about.

Yeah, I've been curious about that myself. I'm also wondering what's going to happen involving that huge transmutation circle around Leore.

[TheVileOne]

I have a feeling you will find out very soon.

As for Scar, you should be able to piece together the origin of his facial scar by now.

Rose really isn't like Father Cornello though. You are also going to find out something pretty brutal soon...

[PyroProductions]

I have a feeling you will find out very soon.

As for Scar, you should be able to piece together the origin of his facial scar by now.

Rose really isn't like Father Cornello though. You are also going to find out something pretty brutal soon...

Yikes...

[guitarsingerguy]

I have a feeling you will find out very soon.

As for Scar, you should be able to piece together the origin of his facial scar by now.

Rose really isn't like Father Cornello though. You are also going to find out something pretty brutal soon...

Well, the transmutation circle seems self explanatory to me, but what the hell do I know? It seems like Scar is simply planning on using the community's people to attempt to make the Philosopher's Stone, and the transmutation circle is simply his catalyst. As far as Scar's facial markings, I have my suspicions, but half the time I'm right and half the time I'm wrong. :p I knew something was up with Rose in the last shot. I do have a question about the next episode. Do Ed and Scar kinda bond in the next episode? I got the feeling from the preview that Scar kinda reveals his background to Ed, and maybe Ed gets a better understanding of his situation. Guess we'll find out this Saturday. Can't wait! :D

[TheVileOne]

You seem to have something their guitarsingerguy. I guess we'll find out for sure in a couple days.

[guitarsingerguy]

Well, I hope I'm right. Scar is an interesting character, and I welcome any chance to learn more about him.

[TheVileOne]

You are in luck guitarsingerguy, because if I could in any way describe the next couple episodes, I'd describe them as a Scar buffet. A Scar smorgas board if you will. You are going to dine and fill yourself on Scar goodness.

Warning, enjoy it while it lasts ;) . Remember the nature of this series, its Fullmetal Alchemist.

[guitarsingerguy]

By the way, one of my Christmas presents from my fiancee is all the DVD's available at this point. She's the greatest. :D

[TheVileOne]

You are getting married guitarsingerguy? MAZEL TOV! :D

I hope she got you the ones with the tins as well. Cause if she didn't, that means its time to see other people ;) .

But seriously, congratulations. It almost gives me hope for myself :) .

[guitarsingerguy]

You are getting married guitarsingerguy? MAZEL TOV! :D

I hope she got you the ones with the tins as well. Cause if she didn't, that means its time to see other people ;) .

But seriously, congratulations. It almost gives me hope for myself :) .

Oh yeah. We aren't gonna be getting married for several years since we both have quite a bit of schooling to go, but yes I am engaged. And of course she bought me the tins!!!! The woman understands I'm a collector!!! There's hope for everyone Vile. It just takes running across the right person. Thank you by the way. :D

[guitarsingerguy]

:eek: OMG!!!! I can't friggin believe I called that. So, the Fuhrer IS the final homonculus. That is so f'ed up. When I said it, I didn't actually think that was gonna be the truth. I knew the Fuhrer was involved, but the whole him being a homonculus and hiding his symbol behind his patch was pulled outta my ass! Wow, what a great friggin episode!

[Tamanon]

Yeah that was a great episode. A couple really moving scenes in there. Al's capturing of Kimbley was brilliant. Learning how Scar became Scar was great....and damn was that final scene of Al crouched on the ground with blood pouring out his armor disturbing.

Good episode though.

[PyroProductions]

:eek: OMG!!!! I can't friggin believe I called that. So, the Fuhrer IS the final homonculus. That is so f'ed up. When I said it, I didn't actually think that was gonna be the truth. I knew the Fuhrer was involved, but the whole him being a homonculus and hiding his symbol behind his patch was pulled outta my ass! Wow, what a great friggin episode!

Yeah, I can't believe you pulled that out of your ass either. Damn, and to think they'll be wrapping this up in 10 odd episodes. I knew there was something else about the circle around Leore, but I didn't expect Scar to plan on using the military. Also, what the **** is up with Rose and that baby? I wonder if that has anything to do with what happened to her when she was captured by the military.

[Tamanon]

Yeah, I can't believe you pulled that out of your ass either. Damn, and to think they'll be wrapping this up in 10 odd episodes. I knew there was something else about the circle around Leore, but I didn't expect Scar to plan on using the military. Also, what the **** is up with Rose and that baby? I wonder if that has anything to do with what happened to her when she was captured by the military.

I'm thinking she was raped by the military and that's where she got the kid and also became mute. I think that's what Ed thought of also when he got that really horrified expression.

[PyroProductions]

There's a very good possibilty of that. I don't think she is a mute, I just think that she is in so much shock she didn't know what to say. Plus, she talked in this episode when she told Scar about telling Ed about his brother. And Lyra is a lying mother****er. I'm sure she is the one who killed Dante, but she is acting like it was something beyond her control.

[TheVileOne]

Yeah, kind of fill in the blanks with Rose and the baby.

As for Lyra...you have enough information to figure it out :) . But she is acting rather shifty to say the least.

[PyroProductions]

I gave some misinformation. After watching the episode again, they did say that Rose was a mute, and Lyra was speaking for her. It's just really weird that Lyra is hanging around with Scar and Rose. Is she planning to use Scar to obtain a Philosopher's Stone for Lust?

[TheVileOne]

I gave some misinformation. After watching the episode again, they did say that Rose was a mute, and Lyra was speaking for her. It's just really weird that Lyra is hanging around with Scar and Rose. Is she planning to use Scar to obtain a Philosopher's Stone for Lust?
Why for Lust?

[guitarsingerguy]

Why for Lust?

Yeah, what connection do you think she has with the homonculus? I would like to know how in the hell she got that fake philosopher's stone to empty the life stones out of Greed. Is that why you're assuming Lust?

[HiddenElric81]

I gave some misinformation. After watching the episode again, they did say that Rose was a mute, and Lyra was speaking for her. It's just really weird that Lyra is hanging around with Scar and Rose. Is she planning to use Scar to obtain a Philosopher's Stone for Lust?
That's what I've been wondering too....I don't quite trust Lyra at the moment

I'm guessing that the baby Rose was holding was a result of her being raped by the military too....Although part of me is thinking that it may belong to Scar as well......

[TheVileOne]

Yeah, what connection do you think she has with the homonculus? I would like to know how in the hell she got that fake philosopher's stone to empty the life stones out of Greed. Is that why you're assuming Lust?

Ok, I'm going to be nice and give you guys another hint.

Remember the first time we saw Lyra and got her ass kicked by Ed? Then we see her again and suddenly, she is able to cripple a homunculus? How was LYRA able to do this?

[PyroProductions]

Ok, I'm going to be nice and give you guys another hint.

Remember the first time we saw Lyra and got her ass kicked by Ed? Then we see her again and suddenly, she is able to cripple a homunculus? How was LYRA able to do this?

I'm sure it has something to do with her obtaining a fake Philosopher's Stone. But I will tell you this, we won't be finding out next week, because [adult swim] is not airing anime next Saturday, but rather a Perfect Hair Forever marathon...damn you, [as]!!

[PyroProductions]

Yeah, what connection do you think she has with the homonculus? I would like to know how in the hell she got that fake philosopher's stone to empty the life stones out of Greed. Is that why you're assuming Lust?

That's exactly why I assumed Lust, how else would she have obtained a stone?

[guitarsingerguy]

I'm sure it has something to do with her obtaining a fake Philosopher's Stone. But I will tell you this, we won't be finding out next week, because [adult swim] is not airing anime next Saturday, but rather a Perfect Hair Forever marathon...damn you, [as]!!

You've gotta be kidding me. I hate that friggin' show. There's funny, then there's weird, then there's so weird it's funny, but Perfect Hair Forever doesn't satisfy any of those. It falls much close to so weird it's crap. :o

[PyroProductions]

You've gotta be kidding me. I hate that friggin' show. There's funny, then there's weird, then there's so weird it's funny, but Perfect Hair Forever doesn't satisfy any of those. It falls much close to so weird it's crap. :o

Yeah, I know. I thought the show was going to be funny, but it really disappointed me, and now they aren't airing a good show because they are showing a crappy marathon of PHF.

[guitarsingerguy]

Yeah, I know. I thought the show was going to be funny, but it really disappointed me, and now they aren't airing a good show because they are showing a crappy marathon of PHF.

Well, I guess in alot of ways it's a good thing. We'll all pretty much be occupied with Christmas Eve festivities, so I won't have to pay attention to anything too hard except for maybe A Christmas Story. :o

[TheVileOne]

I'm sure it has something to do with her obtaining a fake Philosopher's Stone. But I will tell you this, we won't be finding out next week, because [adult swim] is not airing anime next Saturday, but rather a Perfect Hair Forever marathon...damn you, [as]!!

PyroProductions...did you happen to see Lyra posessing an incomplete Philosopher's Stone? How can you be sure about that?

Once again...how was LYRA...LYRA of all people able to cripple a homunculus?

[PyroProductions]

Cute...once again, another marathon is coming on, which means another week that I won't be able to see this show. It's not the end of the world, though, because now I can go out on a Saturday night.

[TheVileOne]

Well technically that was the second/third season and we are awaiting the fourth and final one.

We needed a good break for what's about to happen.

[guitarsingerguy]

Well technically that was the second/third season and we are awaiting the fourth and final one.

We needed a good break for what's about to happen.

Have they already dubbed the next episodes or is there gonna be an extended break like last time?

[TheVileOne]

The entire series is done with the dubbing last I heard.

It was like this last year too, they did some filler-in stuff during the holiday weekends.

[PyroProductions]

So we now know who Pride is, how many episodes are left to go? 10? The main question I have is how they are going to wrap everything up within that period...after that, I'll probably buy the movie (if it's available).

[guitarsingerguy]

We'll see I guess. Also, don't forget that they changed the damn time again. Now it is coming on at 11 C time. The Boondocks and Stroker and Hoop are coming on before FMA.

[PyroProductions]

I noticed that. I think they are gonna do away with the anime Saturday, but as long as Fullmetal plays out to the end, I'll be content.

[TheVileOne]

Yuck. I liked it better when FMA was the start of the anime block after replacing crappy Inuyasha.

However...at least this way I don't have to wait for the replay since it usually came on the same time as TNA Impact.

[TheVileOne]

Well...

How'd you like that episode guys? This and the next episode are probably the most significant in the entire series. They were aired together as a one hour special in Japan.