View Full Version : X-Men 3 is headed in the same direction as Mortal Kombat Annihilation.
PikaZeroX
10-05-2005, 11:24 AM
For those of you that aren't familiar with Mortal Kombat Annihilation, it was the sequel to the video game movie Mortal Kombat which was a surprise hit. MKA tried to have it all, and failed horribly.
It was crammed to the brim with characters, there was no room for character development. The plot took a giant nosedive with pathetic plot devices and killing off great characters for terrible reasons. Sounding familiar?
I groan with each cast addition report on more mutants (If that model is Stacy X, WTF?!), and how important characters are looking to go out in a whimper (Especially Cyclops getting punked when he's essential to the whole storyline. Hell, even if he doesn't die he's apparently gotten the big shaft again. Where does he get sidetracked this time :down ). Mutant cure? Even if it's a cover for the legacy virus it's a lame plot device that rehashes "Bad man wants to get rid of mutants" from X2. They even have use a mutant to produce the "problem solving" agents they need AGAIN.
There you go Lightning. :)
Lightning Strykez!
10-05-2005, 11:25 AM
Thank you. I appreciate your opinion, although I don't share it. But thanks for substantiating your views all the same. And again, welcome to the Hype!
:cool::up:
Lazmarquez
10-05-2005, 11:31 AM
For those of you that aren't familiar with Mortal Kombat Annihilation, it was the sequel to the video game movie Mortal Kombat which was a surprise hit. MKA tried to have it all, and failed horribly.
It was crammed to the brim with characters, there was no room for character development. The plot took a giant nosedive with pathetic plot devices and killing off great characters for terrible reasons. Sounding familiar?
I groan with each cast addition report on more mutants (If that model is Stacy X, WTF?!), and how important characters are looking to go out in a whimper (Especially Cyclops getting punked when he's essential to the whole storyline. Hell, even if he doesn't die he's apparently gotten the big shaft again. Where does he get sidetracked this time :down ). Mutant cure? Even if it's a cover for the legacy virus it's a lame plot device that rehashes "Bad man wants to get rid of mutants" from X2. They even have use a mutant to produce the "problem solving" agents they need AGAIN.
There you go Lightning. :)
I can see some of your points most definetly, but the only thingt i disagree with is the mutant cure issue.. I think it's an interesting idea that really toys with the individual concerns on the characters.. I think if used correctly, it could work nicely.. Generally with X-Men, you cqan't stray in too many directions besides "Humans trying to rid themselves of Mutants" or "Mutants trying to rid themselves of Humans"... it's kind of a one or the other situation, that in my opinion, has to be taken. It just depoends on how you will take this approach and i like the cure idea. :)
That's good for you buddy!
blades_shades
10-05-2005, 11:35 AM
That's the most ridicuous thread ever. Even more so than my David Coulier for Gambit thread. You can't compare MC2 to the mega-budget X3 directed by Brett Ratner with some very popular stars including Hugh Jackman, Halle Berry, Ian McKellen, Patrick Stewart, Kelsey Grammar, etc...This is an event film and it's gonna be a huge battle. Many of these new faces are coming out of the woodwork for a reason. They're not just being thrown up onto the screen for kicks. Only a handful will have the spotlight though so there is no problem with too many characters. It's like one of the producers said. It's a Marvel movie it's about the X-Men. The X-Mansion has more people in it than just the main characters. So you need extra's and smaller roles to fill it in. So when Wolverine walks through the mansion he's not going to bump into some random school boy. It'll be a mutant and you want to take advantage of that and maybe make it a cameo that the fans may recognize...but the general audience probably won't.
It's not over cast. All the characters mentioned to be in the movie are not even going to get a speaking role. They may not even end up in the final cut. They just wanted to give names to the background characters. Yes, there are a few new characters that will get introduced, but it's clear that it's being approached as efficiently as possible.
Everything is going to be all right, just relax, and you'll see.
CASHMERE
10-05-2005, 11:50 AM
How pretentious.
StevieNicks1988
10-05-2005, 11:51 AM
1) Mortal Kombat Annihilation was originally a much better film, but because of shotty editing and taking a lot of stuff that didn't need to be cut out, it became a sloppy mess.
2) The directors and producers didn't think the movie-going audience would get the MK-Mythology so they took out most of the juicy bits of storyline like the first MK had and just made it a movie full of action.
3) X-Men has already established its background and story and after 2 movies, people get it well enough so that with X3, they won't have to worry about people 'getting lost' among the storytelling.
Quing
10-05-2005, 11:54 AM
If at first your thread is locked, try try and make the same thread again.
Neto Magnus
10-05-2005, 11:58 AM
"Mortal Kombat! Dun Dun Deh Deh Dun Dun!"
http://www.unknown-insanity.com/uploads/dancing.gif
HighVoltage
10-05-2005, 12:00 PM
I have a new post.
Kevin Roegele
10-05-2005, 12:12 PM
For those of you that aren't familiar with Mortal Kombat Annihilation, it was the sequel to the video game movie Mortal Kombat which was a surprise hit. MKA tried to have it all, and failed horribly.
It was crammed to the brim with characters, there was no room for character development. The plot took a giant nosedive with pathetic plot devices and killing off great characters for terrible reasons. Sounding familiar?
I groan with each cast addition report on more mutants (If that model is Stacy X, WTF?!), and how important characters are looking to go out in a whimper (Especially Cyclops getting punked when he's essential to the whole storyline. Hell, even if he doesn't die he's apparently gotten the big shaft again. Where does he get sidetracked this time :down ). Mutant cure? Even if it's a cover for the legacy virus it's a lame plot device that rehashes "Bad man wants to get rid of mutants" from X2. They even have use a mutant to produce the "problem solving" agents they need AGAIN.
There you go Lightning. :)
But Mortal Kombat has no substance anyway. Annihilation is no different to the first Mortal Kombat film - weak characters and a story-line just there to set up multiple fights.
X-Men is about much more than just fighting.
StevieNicks1988
10-05-2005, 12:14 PM
The Mortal Kombat story has gained MUCH more depth since the 90's with the recent games, but thats not the point. The point is, like James Bond in Die Another Day, the director gained too much control and ruined the film.
With X-Men, that hasn't been the case and I don't see why it would be now seeing as it rakes in oh so much money.
Octoberist
10-05-2005, 12:43 PM
Die Another Day was bad...The World is Not Enough was freaking boring.
Obsidian
10-05-2005, 12:54 PM
What made Mortal Kombat: Annihilation suck was that Paul W.S. Anderson was involved in it. Any movie he touches is crap.
"Mortal Kombat! Dun Dun Deh Deh Dun Dun!"
http://www.unknown-insanity.com/uploads/dancing.gif
Hahaha.What was her fatality?
Octoberist
10-05-2005, 12:58 PM
I feel bad for PAUL THOMAS ANDERSON...(also knowns as P.T. Anderson).
Poor guy...people confuse this genious with Paul W.S. Anderson..a geniue hack.
With Alien Vs. Predator, Paul WS displayed his raw talents of being bad. That script was terrible. That one Italian scientist was JUST there to deliever the 'backstory' before he got killed off. That was his only intention; his only purpose. He's not even a character; he's a exposition plot device. A big no-no in screenwriting!
Mistopurr83
10-05-2005, 12:59 PM
For those of you that aren't familiar with Mortal Kombat Annihilation, it was the sequel to the video game movie Mortal Kombat which was a surprise hit. MKA tried to have it all, and failed horribly.
It was crammed to the brim with characters, there was no room for character development. The plot took a giant nosedive with pathetic plot devices and killing off great characters for terrible reasons. Sounding familiar?
I groan with each cast addition report on more mutants (If that model is Stacy X, WTF?!), and how important characters are looking to go out in a whimper (Especially Cyclops getting punked when he's essential to the whole storyline. Hell, even if he doesn't die he's apparently gotten the big shaft again. Where does he get sidetracked this time :down ). Mutant cure? Even if it's a cover for the legacy virus it's a lame plot device that rehashes "Bad man wants to get rid of mutants" from X2. They even have use a mutant to produce the "problem solving" agents they need AGAIN.
There you go Lightning. :)
That's right.
Like I mentioned earlier. I'm afraid X3 is in danger of ending up like MKA b/c that was a sequel where they tried to do way too much with SO LITTLE TIME during filming and post production. That's all I've gotta say.
Mistopurr83
10-05-2005, 01:02 PM
What made Mortal Kombat: Annihilation suck was that Paul W.S. Anderson was involved in it. Any movie he touches is crap.
MKA was NOT directed by Paul Anderson (he had no input on MKA either). It was directed by this unexperienced director named John R. Leonetti. Most of the blame goes to him basically. :down
AdWolF16
10-05-2005, 01:15 PM
sigh, the "too many mutants" argument is getting way old. the only real new characters are going to be Beast, Angel, Kitty, and Juggernaut. everybody else who has been cast is just there for a cameo role -- if you need someone to be a henchman, why have it be someone totally random and new? why not have it be "avalanche" or "omega red" as a cameo/nod to the fans? if you need a doctor, why have it be someone totally random and new? why not have it be "dr. rao" as a cameo/nod to the fans? if they made it clear that we were seeing Blob and Cable and Forge and Trevor Fitzroy and Mastermind during the Cerebro scenes in X2, nobody would have complained about "too many characters" and "lack of development." hell, nobody complained about having so many new characters (Beast and Siryn and Colossus and Nightcrawler and Stryker and Artie and Deathstryke and Pyro etc etc) in X2. X3 is going to be no different.
tonytr1687
10-05-2005, 01:38 PM
Even though I don't think X3 is going the way of MKA, I can see some of the similarities. The pretty boyfriend getting killed off in the beginning of the movie (Johnny Cage/Cyclops), and then the mentor after that (Raiden/Xavier), the dozens of characters and cameos that serve no real purpose, a bunch of different storylines crammed together. Despite all this though much of these similarities are only rumors for X3, and I'm confident the team will deliver a much better movie.
Oh and to clear things up, Paul WS Anderson was not involved in the MK sequel but he did direct the first movie, which I thought was decent for what it was.
Mortal Kombat Annihalation was an awesome movie. There was no need for character development, because its a way to show fans the characters without waxing poetic about it. They did a fine job, just not alot of people respected it, although it was what I always wanted to see in a game movie. Yet then there is Final Fantasy Advent Children, that movie had all the original characters in it, and they did an excellent job, a beautiful, terrific movie.
PikaZeroX
10-05-2005, 02:07 PM
What made Mortal Kombat: Annihilation suck was that Paul W.S. Anderson was involved in it. Any movie he touches is crap.
False. MKA was directed by someone else, Paul Anderson directed the first which was a GOOD movie. AVP sucked hard though.
It's obvious X3 and MKA are different movies, but they're going down the same road. X-Men 3 is under an even tighter schedule than MKA was, don't expect anything as awesome as X2.
PikaZeroX
10-05-2005, 02:21 PM
Mortal Kombat Annihalation was an awesome movie. There was no need for character development, because its a way to show fans the characters without waxing poetic about it. They did a fine job, just not alot of people respected it, although it was what I always wanted to see in a game movie. Yet then there is Final Fantasy Advent Children, that movie had all the original characters in it, and they did an excellent job, a beautiful, terrific movie.
I'm about to get a little off topic here, if you haven't seen MKA, don't bother reading this post.
Believe me when I say I wanted to love MKA, I wanted it to be "awesome". By no means is it anything other than garbage. Reasons:
-Only two original cast members returned, the new castings are very bad.
-Atrocious story that makes little sense
-Johnny Cage, the most likeable character from the first movie, gets offed in the first 5 minutes.
-Raiden was very out of character, terrible continuity.
-Shao Khan is NOT related to Shinnok or Raiden. He's not a bald guy with fat arms either, should've left the awesome helmet on.
-Fan favorite characters show up out of nowhere, get in a fight and die or completely disappear off the face of the earth.
-Power Rangers esque fighting
NocturnalMadman
10-05-2005, 02:36 PM
And WHAT exactly is it that hints that X3 will head down that route?
All we have to go on is rumours and it's already been stated that there are around 11 chars considered as "main" that's not THAT many and is still no indication of their screen time
Fray Ok
10-05-2005, 02:54 PM
The difference is X3 has talented actors.
PikaZeroX
10-05-2005, 03:06 PM
Superman 3 did too :(
PikaZeroX
10-05-2005, 03:36 PM
And WHAT exactly is it that hints that X3 will head down that route?
All we have to go on is rumours and it's already been stated that there are around 11 chars considered as "main" that's not THAT many and is still no indication of their screen time
They are rumors and perhaps I'm jumping the gun, but they were from a script that is looking more and more like the one being filmed. My expectations are dropping very fast. Please don't think of me as some sort of troll, I loved the first two films and I'd just hate to see the third one fall on it's face with lazy plotlines and killing off important characters.
panzertank
10-05-2005, 03:57 PM
Ok, so I don't say much, I mostly just look and get my info that way, but why of all the terrible sequels to compare X-3 to, did you choose MKA. They are totally different circumstances, big to small budget, wide audience to video game fans, good actors to bad actors. I mean, not that I am comparing it to this, but Batman&Robin would make a much better comparison. MKA didn't have an overkill of characters, it just had terrible ones. It doesn't make sense just to compare two sequels thinking they have alot in common. Look at every sequel, they always add more characters into the fray, thats what sequels do, expand.
So in accordance with this one I think I will start a thread titled...
X-3:Citizens on Patrol???
The Guard
10-05-2005, 09:57 PM
You know what MKA had against it? Story and actors. Know what X3 has going for it? Story and actors.
Dumbest thread ever.
PikaZeroX
10-05-2005, 11:33 PM
You know what MKA had against it? Story and actors. Know what X3 has going for it? Story and actors.
Dumbest thread ever.
Rehashing plot devices and killing off characters is a positive?
Doctor Goblipus
10-05-2005, 11:35 PM
This guy makes some good points.
cookiva
10-05-2005, 11:36 PM
Rehashing plot devices and killing off characters is a positive?
I dont think anyone is dying. Oh, and its the XMEN!! How would you like it if instead of Phoenix being a main plot of the movie, it was Xmen 3- The gang finds out who stole the pie!
Demon Within
10-05-2005, 11:39 PM
What they did to subzero in MKA was criminal. Lets pray to all that is Holy that they dont screw a character like that.
StevieNicks1988
10-06-2005, 12:04 AM
Mortal Kombat is different. Low budget, casting sucked, director didn't give a **** about the story, characters, anything. Also edited the **** out of it, as I said earlier.
Here we have a nice fat budget, good casting, director is a comic fan and X-fan who cares about story, characters, and everything involved. Also, I doubt editing will be a problem here as there aren't 2 hours of fightscenes.
Kmack
10-06-2005, 12:05 AM
I don't think it will be anywhere near as horrible as MK Annihilation:o
Nell2ThaIzzay
10-06-2005, 01:57 AM
I dont think anyone is dying. Oh, and its the XMEN!! How would you like it if instead of Phoenix being a main plot of the movie, it was Xmen 3- The gang finds out who stole the pie!
Well, maybe that way they could finally fit in Gambit!!! :eek: (sorry)
(There is a real purpose to my post, I swears it)
Okay, there are a few things I wanna reply to, and I'm not quoting it all, so please just bear with me here.
1. To the person who said Die Another Day sucked and World Is Not Enough was boring... WHAT KIND OF CRACK ARE YOU ON?!?!!
I'm sorry, I'm hard pressed to find any of the Pierce Brosnan Bond movies to be anything close to "bad". Pierce is my favorite Bond, Die Another Day and World Is Not Enough are 2 of my favorite Bond movies, and Brosnan's worst Bond movie (Tomorrow Never Dies) is still among the "better of the franchise" list. I really thought that Die Another Day was one of the best Bond movies period.
2. I also really liked Alien vs. Predator, why all the hate?
I'm not a big fan of either franchise (In particular Predator, but I do like the Alien movies), and I thought the "vs." movie was just going to be lame. But my friend is a huge Predator fan, and was looking forward to this movie almost as much as I anticipate an X-Men movie, and I went with him to see it, even tho I thought it was going to be horrible.
I actually left the theatre pleasantly surprised, and ended up buying it on DVD when it came out.
Now, my friend and I both acknowledge it was nothing supertacular, but it's a very entertaining movie for what it is, with some very very nice action scenes.
3. One quote I want to respond to in particular:
"They are rumors and perhaps I'm jumping the gun, but they were from a script that is looking more and more like the one being filmed."
Are you talking about the script that AICN reviewed?
Now, granted, there are some things in that script that are proving to be legit (Alcatraz / Golden Gate Bridge, Jean Grey origin scene), but there is also a lot of it that is proving to be quite inaccurate at this juncture:
-I believe in that script, Jean Grey / Phoenix was more of a background, subplot kinda thing. I believe that one of the writers (Kinberg I believe) confirmed that the Phoenix storyline is actually going to be a major, major focus. Not just something happening while the X-Men duke it out with Sentinels (which I wish them the best of luck in doing, because I know that when I was creating my fan-plotlines for X-Men 3, I was completely and utterly stumped on how to handle the Phoenix situation)
-It appears that Cyclops doesn't die all that early, as I believe we had a set report which involved a nice fight scene with Cyclops. Even as it was, I never believed he would really die in the movie, because Cyclops' death was written as a way to accomadate Marsden's busy schedule. However, filming of X-Men 3 was pushed back, which allowed him to be on the set of this movie for a much longer period of time, allowing him to have a beefier role. I will seriously be shocked if Cyclops dies in the movie.
-Omega Red. Where in that script review was Omega Red. Despite the fact that came from RickyH, I think it's pretty safe to say that was a very legit picture, as even Fox asked a1ant to take it off his site.
That script that AICN reviewed was obviously legit. But it was also a very early -draft-, not even close to a finished script. It's a basic outline of things they wanna do. The details will be worked on and evolve as shooting presses forward.
4. One more quote:
"Rehashing plot devices and killing off characters is a positive?"
We don't know that the plot device is being rehashed. We don't know how any of these characters are going to play into the overall plot. And we don't know who, if anyone, is dying.
5. Now on to the characters.
Let's take a look at the characters that we are confirmed to have in this movie:
-Xavier
-Cyclops
-Jean Grey / Phoenix
-Storm
-Wolverine
-Rogue
-Iceman
-Kitty Pryde
-Colossus
-Beast
-Angel
-Magneto
-Mystique
-Pyro
-Juggernaut
-Dr. Kavita Rao
-Omega Red
-Gauntlet
-Multiple Man
-Stacy X (?)
-Steven Lang / Bolivar Trask (?)
-Leech
-Dr. Moira McTaggert
("?" = rumored character that their respective actors / actresses are playing)
Now, these are all the characters who are going to be more than a cameo. Maybe not neccesarily a major player, but are going to be more than a cameo. Character count: 23
Now let's look at X2:
-Xavier
-Cyclops
-Jean Grey
-Storm
-Wolverine
-Rogue
-Iceman
-Nightcrawler
-Pyro
-Magneto
-Mystique
-Col. William Stryker
-Jason / Mutant 143
-Senator Kelly
-President McKenna
-Lady Deathstrike
Character count: 15
Albiet that is about an 8 character difference, we have to look at some of the following details:
10 of the 23 characters for X-Men 3 that I listed are returning characters. The general audience knows these characters already. They've been introduced, their motives established, there's no real screen time needed to develop these characters, as they've been developed as is. There will be some growth to these characters of course, but the beef of their characters is already known.
Of the remaining 13 characters, there are about 6 of those who's roles we really don't know the size of. Granted, we don't know the size of any of the roles, really, but a lot of them we can get a good idea of. However, the roles of Kitty Pryde and Colossus may be nothing more than very small roles / glorified cameos. Yes, Colossus is getting a bigger role, but that could mean anything considering the size of his role in X2. Kitty Pryde may be nothing more than a homewrecker in this movie, which won't take much development.
Omega Red and Gauntlet may be glorified henchmen. Hopefully (at least in Red's case) they are around for more than just 1 fight scene as random mutants who happen to be named. But even if they are, they may be no more than what Sabretooth, Toad, or Lady Deathstrike were.
And Multiple Man and Stacy X may just be featured cameos. They may also need no true development to the overall plot.
Which is going to leave about 7 new characters that need to be developed.
Angel, Beast, and Juggernaut are going to need good development. They'll need a very good amount of screen time. Kavita Rao and Moira McTaggert may have roles no bigger than President McKenna for all we know. Bill Duke will probably be the Magneto of X-Men and William Stryker of X2 sized role. And Leech, only thing about him that needs to be addressed is his powers.
So that's about 3 or 4 new characters that are going to hog a lion's share of the "new character" screen time for development. That's not bad at all, especially considering that in X2, we easily had that with Nightcrawler, Pyro, and William Stryker getting that treatment.
Sean Madrox
10-06-2005, 02:23 AM
Very well said Nell.
I think that we shouldn't judge a movie until we see it.
For those of you that aren't familiar with Mortal Kombat Annihilation, it was the sequel to the video game movie Mortal Kombat which was a surprise hit. MKA tried to have it all, and failed horribly.
It was crammed to the brim with characters, there was no room for character development. The plot took a giant nosedive with pathetic plot devices and killing off great characters for terrible reasons. Sounding familiar?
I groan with each cast addition report on more mutants (If that model is Stacy X, WTF?!), and how important characters are looking to go out in a whimper (Especially Cyclops getting punked when he's essential to the whole storyline. Hell, even if he doesn't die he's apparently gotten the big shaft again. Where does he get sidetracked this time :down ). Mutant cure? Even if it's a cover for the legacy virus it's a lame plot device that rehashes "Bad man wants to get rid of mutants" from X2. They even have use a mutant to produce the "problem solving" agents they need AGAIN.
There you go Lightning. :)
What a shallow, ignorant, assuming and uneducated opinion.
1. We haven't seen the movie.
2. We haven't read the script.
3. We've seen ONE cast picture (from afar), that is totally out of context, it could mean anything and is NOTHING to really go by.
4. So what's your opinion based on?
Answer: Nothing.
Halcohol
10-06-2005, 03:25 AM
What a shallow, ignorant, assuming and uneducated opinion.
1. We haven't seen the movie.
2. We haven't read the script.
3. We've seen ONE cast picture (from afar), that is totally out of context, it could mean anything and is NOTHING to really go by.
4. So what's your opinion based on?
Answer: Nothing.
Last I checked, it's perfectly alright to debate things that MAY or MAY NOT happen. If you don't agree, well that's your problem, you don't need to go around insulting people.
It's shallow, ignorant, assuming, & uneducated.
Last I checked, it's perfectly alright to debate things that MAY or MAY NOT happen. If you don't agree, well that's your problem, you don't need to go around insulting people.
It's shallow, ignorant, assuming, & uneducated.
Why would you want to waste your time getting yourself worked up over something that you have no PROOF about? That's where I'm coming from. It's childish to talk out of your neck and make claims about things like that when in all reality you have NOTHING to go on apart from rumours and what you THINK you know.
I can't wait for this movie to blow haters away so they can quit talking out of their necks like this. Anyone would think they work on the set!
HippieKiller
10-06-2005, 06:22 AM
Is there going to be a scene where Omega Red pops out of nowhere and gets flattened by a chandelier?
RedIsNotBlue
10-06-2005, 06:27 AM
Wow. This thread is still not closed??
Wow. This thread is still not closed??
I know.
Sentinel X
10-06-2005, 08:14 AM
Dude,to even compare the X-men franchise to Mortal Kombat should be concidered a crime--its just plain evil :down :down
Hunter Rider
10-06-2005, 08:27 AM
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PikaZeroX
10-06-2005, 02:04 PM
What a shallow, ignorant, assuming and uneducated opinion.
1. We haven't seen the movie.
2. We haven't read the script.
3. We've seen ONE cast picture (from afar), that is totally out of context, it could mean anything and is NOTHING to really go by.
4. So what's your opinion based on?
Answer: Nothing.
Please, I'm allowed to form opinions based on information I've seen and if you don't like it, please eject from the topic.
There's been more than one cast picture, and to top it all off that's not what I'm forming my opinions on. My opinions form from set reports which are very comparable to AICN's script review. I honestly DO NOT want this movie to flop on it's face, I'm very concerned because this is easily my favorite comic book-movie franchise.
Doomed_hero
10-06-2005, 02:06 PM
I have felt kinda the same way with some of the news. All these action scenes and character cameos have kinda help with my belief.
Sean Madrox
10-06-2005, 02:12 PM
I honestly DO NOT want this movie to flop on it's face, I'm very concerned because this is easily my favorite comic book-movie franchise.
I think what you said was kind of redundent, you say that you hope it doesn't flop on its face, but you compare it to MKA.
If it is easily your favorite comic-book franchise then don't jump to conclusions, take everything 'spoiled' with a grain of salt. If you want to be a true fan to the franchise then patiently wait for the first trailer or wait for it to hit theaters.
PikaZeroX
10-06-2005, 02:13 PM
Wow. This thread is still not closed??
My first topic about this was closed due to a huge lack of detail, this one is in greater detail and is worth discussing as it's own thread and apparently the mods agree.
As a member of this forum, I am allowed to make topics. Should you not agree with my topic, please respond with respect or simply ignore it and move on. I'm not hurting anyone or anything.
RedIsNotBlue
10-06-2005, 02:37 PM
My first topic about this was closed due to a huge lack of detail, this one is in greater detail and is worth discussing as it's own thread and apparently the mods agree.
As a member of this forum, I am allowed to make topics. Should you not agree with my topic, please respond with respect or simply ignore it and move on. I'm not hurting anyone or anything.
I simply saw the same thing closed the other day so I assumed this should be closed. I did not now the other one was closed for that reason.
The Guard
10-06-2005, 09:07 PM
Rehashing plot devices and killing off characters is a positive?
Where did I say that? I just said it's idiotic to compare MKA to X3. For obvious reasons. One, there are always going to be rehashed plot devices in a film franchise. That's how it works. Two, there are clearly going to be some new plot devices and characters. And yes, killing off characters can be a positive, if it's done well.
TNC9852002
10-06-2005, 09:14 PM
Man,..I feel like watching MKA right now..
Well, at least all of the good part(s)... :p
-TNC
RedIsNotBlue
10-06-2005, 09:15 PM
Man,..I feel like watching MKA right now..
Well, at least all of the good part(s)... :p
-TNC
So you feel like watching the credits?? :o
Haha...sorry I couldn't resist.
Gotta love that techno MK theme.DUN DUN DUN DUN DUDUN DUN DUN
Sean Madrox
10-06-2005, 09:38 PM
Never say MKA is it worth watching and wasting my time? I vaguely remember the first movie, so I'm, not sure what to expect.
PikaZeroX
10-06-2005, 09:53 PM
It's laughably bad, but if you're a fan of the first movie you should see it at least once, since in the end it does wrap everything up in a decent enough fasion, but the overall movie is garbage. It should have been handled better.
BigMac
10-06-2005, 09:55 PM
There are two movies that I have been to where I wanted to stand up, walk up to the screen, and piss on it. Those movies were MKA and Wing Commander.
RedIsNotBlue
10-06-2005, 09:56 PM
There are two movies that I have been to where I wanted to stand up, walk up to the screen, and piss on it. Those movies were MKA and Wing Commander.
What about B&R?
xwolverine2
10-06-2005, 10:06 PM
i cant believe were comparing this movie to X3 for gods sakes.
Sean Madrox
10-06-2005, 10:10 PM
i cant believe were comparing this movie to X3 for gods sakes.
You and I both.
PikaZeroX
10-06-2005, 10:10 PM
Man,..I feel like watching MKA right now..
Well, at least all of the good part(s)... :p
-TNC
I'll be honest, there are a few parts that worked and made me happy. The beginning of the movie was pretty much how I imagined it would happen, minus Johnny getting lamed and power ranger palette swap ninjas. Shao Khan was unbelieveably cool UNTIL he took off his helmet and became a daddy's boy.
xwolverine2
10-06-2005, 10:10 PM
You and I both.
welcome to the hype :up: ;)
Sean Madrox
10-06-2005, 10:11 PM
Finally I was welcomed lol, I been reading for a while, but never posted.
xwolverine2
10-06-2005, 10:13 PM
Finally I was welcomed lol, I been reading for a while, but never posted.
thats basically what i did for my first year or so............then a couple of weeks ago i got addicted to posting..........im trying to really cut back.
ETHERSPIN
10-07-2005, 12:57 AM
invalid comparison.. and xmen has been loaded with characters since the first one..
TNC9852002
10-07-2005, 01:05 AM
I think people like to take it to the extremes around the internet when dealing with movie quality...
I know horrible, terrible, awful movies when I see one, and MKA is near them, but not exactly one of them...Unlike some really bad movies I've seen, MKA had several redeeming factors that kept it somewhat mildly entertaining...
Hmmm...or maybe I just haven't seen it in a few years and forgot how bad it was.. :p
:(
-TNC
Radford
10-07-2005, 01:15 AM
But Mortal Kombat has no substance anyway. Annihilation is no different to the first Mortal Kombat film - weak characters and a story-line just there to set up multiple fights.
X-Men is about much more than just fighting.
Mortal Kombat has tons of backstory and a great mythology to it. It spans several races, and several realms, as well as 100's of years in time. Most people just dont know the jist of it, and assume its just a bunch of ninjas ripping limbs apart.
But yeah, seriously, it has a huge mythos to it. Dont discount it like that.
Downhere
10-07-2005, 02:13 AM
Finally I was welcomed lol, I been reading for a while, but never posted.
Dude, I hear that. I basically have read the boards ever since X-Men. lol. So it was many years ago. Finally decided to become part of the community here...been posting like crazy the last couple of weeks.
...about the movie being compared to MK...good grief...X3 is gonna be awesome people...stop the negativity.
RedIsNotBlue
10-07-2005, 02:14 AM
Dude, I hear that. I basically have read the boards ever since X-Men. lol. So it was many years ago. Finally decided to become part of the community here...been posting like crazy the last couple of weeks.
...about the movie being compared to MK...good grief...X3 is gonna be awesome people...stop the negativity.
Its not negativity. Just a legitmate concern and opinion.
Downhere
10-07-2005, 02:23 AM
I understand the concern but to start comparing it to movies like MK...I mean, geesh that's a little drastic I think. For me I see the X-trilogy mirroring Starwars OT. So you'd have X-Men compared to A New Hope, then X2 to Empire...and X3 to Jedi. Since Jedi was good but not as good as Empire, I could see X3 going that way. Being good but not as good as X2. But then again...it could very well be better than X2. So we'll have to wait and see.
RedIsNotBlue
10-07-2005, 02:26 AM
I understand the concern but to start comparing it to movies like MK...I mean, geesh that's a little drastic I think. For me I see the X-trilogy mirroring Starwars OT. So you'd have X-Men compared to A New Hope, then X2 to Empire...and X3 to Jedi. Since Jedi was good but not as good as Empire, I could see X3 going that way. Being good but not as good as X2. But then again...it could very well be better than X2. So we'll have to wait and see.
And thats your opinion to compare it to a certain movie. No need to call it negative because he is concerned that it is sounding like MK to him. I used to get the same **** on the Superman boards just cause I thought some of the things I was hearing were weak. I wasn't being negative...just concerned.
SingItWithMeNow
10-07-2005, 02:29 AM
Man,..I feel like watching MKA right now..
Well, at least all of the good part(s)... :p
-TNC
I feel like watching back to the future for some reason/??
Downhere
10-07-2005, 02:31 AM
I feel like watching back to the future for some reason/??
Now that you mention it I wouldn't mind watching BTTF trilogy myself.
PikaZeroX
10-07-2005, 11:52 AM
I understand the concern but to start comparing it to movies like MK...I mean, geesh that's a little drastic I think. For me I see the X-trilogy mirroring Starwars OT. So you'd have X-Men compared to A New Hope, then X2 to Empire...and X3 to Jedi. Since Jedi was good but not as good as Empire, I could see X3 going that way. Being good but not as good as X2. But then again...it could very well be better than X2. So we'll have to wait and see.
I'm not comparing these movies as equals. The X-Men film franchise is far better and I stand by that. Regardless of how these movies are in "different leagues" the same mistakes made in MKA could easily happen in such greater movies like X-Men 3 and spoil it, which is what I'm noticing and am concerned about.
BigMac
10-07-2005, 05:19 PM
B&r?
Nell2ThaIzzay
10-07-2005, 05:27 PM
B&r?
Batman & Robin
Batman & Robin
Ugh, lets not even mention that star studded dulness! That movie was like watching a fly about to hit a windshield in slow motion.
PikaZeroX
05-13-2006, 04:46 PM
This thread made seven months ago, I feel like I was right, even when I tried to have hope.
Kurosawa
05-13-2006, 04:49 PM
For those of you that aren't familiar with Mortal Kombat Annihilation, it was the sequel to the video game movie Mortal Kombat which was a surprise hit. MKA tried to have it all, and failed horribly.
It was crammed to the brim with characters, there was no room for character development. The plot took a giant nosedive with pathetic plot devices and killing off great characters for terrible reasons. Sounding familiar?
I groan with each cast addition report on more mutants (If that model is Stacy X, WTF?!), and how important characters are looking to go out in a whimper (Especially Cyclops getting punked when he's essential to the whole storyline. Hell, even if he doesn't die he's apparently gotten the big shaft again. Where does he get sidetracked this time :down ). Mutant cure? Even if it's a cover for the legacy virus it's a lame plot device that rehashes "Bad man wants to get rid of mutants" from X2. They even have use a mutant to produce the "problem solving" agents they need AGAIN.
There you go Lightning. :)
I wouldn't insult Mortal Kombat Annihilation by comparing it with X3.
PikaZeroX
05-13-2006, 04:51 PM
I also just saw that Psylocke thread which was deleted..
Honestly, do we really need more pitiful losses just to have a bodycount? Character with huge future movie potential just flushed down the drain? Exactly like Mortal Kombat Annihilation.
Spidey 2007
05-13-2006, 04:52 PM
guys PALEEEAAASE..... youve got to be kidding me right? theres people living in denial about wanting this film to be better... but i think its just pathetic how you people hate on it so much before you even ****ing see it... its worse then living in denial, imo.
xwolverine2
05-13-2006, 04:52 PM
this thread shouldve been deleted a LONG TIME AGO!
Aiden
05-13-2006, 04:52 PM
Well, I wouldn't insult X3 by comparing it to Mortal Kombat Annihilation
Spidey 2007
05-13-2006, 04:53 PM
Well, I wouldn't insult X3 by comparing it to Mortal Kombat Annihilation
theres no comparison, it doesnt make sense to compare the 2, youd have to have such a small ammount of sense to think they would be anything alike.
xwolverine2
05-13-2006, 04:54 PM
theres no comparison, it doesnt make sense to compare the 2, youd have to have such a small ammount of sense to think they would be anything alike.
and apparently many do!:o
Aiden
05-13-2006, 04:56 PM
and apparently many do!:otoo many...
PikaZeroX
05-13-2006, 05:08 PM
Even the final battle is eerily reminiscent of the final battle in MKA :X
Spidey 2007
05-13-2006, 05:10 PM
Even the final battle is eerily reminiscent of the final battle in MKA :X
wrong.
actually its not! :) :up:
xwolverine2
05-13-2006, 05:12 PM
Even the final battle is eerily reminiscent of the final battle in MKA :X
shut up!....my god!!
FreeRadical
05-13-2006, 05:14 PM
http://www.uncut.dk/UNCUT/billeder/MORTALKOMBAT.jpg
http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00222/X-Men_3_222854m.jpg
Fight! Fight! FIGHT!!!
Spidey 2007
05-13-2006, 05:16 PM
http://www.uncut.dk/UNCUT/billeder/MORTALKOMBAT.jpg
http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00222/X-Men_3_222854m.jpg
Fight! Fight! FIGHT!!!
um, no.
ororoandme
05-13-2006, 05:48 PM
never!! i say never!! never will X3 be the travesty that MKA was!
grey_jeanie
05-13-2006, 05:49 PM
lol that movie looked crap. I doubt it'll be that bad.
ororoandme
05-13-2006, 05:49 PM
The dialogue iN MKA was god awful! I remember Shao khan's line delivery! It was soooo over the top and just plain....BAD!!
Mar420x
05-13-2006, 05:50 PM
damn u cant compare x-men with mortal kombat. thats like slapping the x-fans on the face. what a disgrace. stay off the glass pipe. peace.
xwolverine2
05-13-2006, 05:52 PM
why do mods keep this f***ing thread and not the ones that matter!??
WTH!
neemer5
05-13-2006, 05:53 PM
For those of you that aren't familiar with Mortal Kombat Annihilation, it was the sequel to the video game movie Mortal Kombat which was a surprise hit. MKA tried to have it all, and failed horribly.
It was crammed to the brim with characters, there was no room for character development. The plot took a giant nosedive with pathetic plot devices and killing off great characters for terrible reasons. Sounding familiar?
I groan with each cast addition report on more mutants (If that model is Stacy X, WTF?!), and how important characters are looking to go out in a whimper (Especially Cyclops getting punked when he's essential to the whole storyline. Hell, even if he doesn't die he's apparently gotten the big shaft again. Where does he get sidetracked this time :down ). Mutant cure? Even if it's a cover for the legacy virus it's a lame plot device that rehashes "Bad man wants to get rid of mutants" from X2. They even have use a mutant to produce the "problem solving" agents they need AGAIN.
There you go Lightning. :)
Funny coincidence, I predicted the same thing a few months ago when Ratner kept adding charters upon characters to this film. I made the exact same analogy.
But if you look at a film like LOTR, they have just as many characters. The difference between MKA and LOTR, is that while in MKA, the charaters were literally going down a hall, room to room, fighting a different character. LOTR added some complexity, story arcs, and major development. The reason they were able to do this was simply because they had a longer film. I'm still optimistic, but the whole Church scene in the preview where Magneto watches Callisto and Quills show their powers seemed way to forced. It was sorta like "How are we going to introduce these guys?" "Let's just have Magneto ask them..."
Spidey 2007
05-13-2006, 05:53 PM
damn u cant compare x-men with mortal kombat. thats like slapping the x-fans on the face. what a disgrace. stay off the glass pipe. peace.
lmao its worse then that. they arnt comparable in any sense of the word. whoever made the thread needs slapped. just...slapped. i dont even care what he'll say about me, he needs slapped, lol. lemme get the address and ill make a special trip out there just to slap him for making this thread..... whoever bumped it needs slapped, if its the same person, he needs slapped twice.
its ****ing hillarious, lol....
LostSon88
05-13-2006, 06:03 PM
Even the final battle is eerily reminiscent of the final battle in MKA :X
Classic fanboy to jump the gun based on 3-4 minutes of footage....
:o
I can't belive that people are comparing MKA with X3. MKA had such a stupid plot and the acting was terrible , x-men haves a great plot and the actors are also great.
LostSon88
05-13-2006, 06:11 PM
Not everyone...just some overreacting aintitcool reject.
oh god, dont trust aicn.
they said 'space truckers' was great.
space truckers for the love of god.
Psionic Force
05-13-2006, 06:23 PM
It was crammed to the brim with characters, there was no room for character development. The plot took a giant nosedive with pathetic plot devices and killing off great characters for terrible reasons. Sounding familiar?
I might feel that way if this was the FIRST movie that was released from the franchise, but this is the THIRD. There has been plenty of character development. And since we have pretty much been told that there will not be a fourth, we do not need to see more development from minor characters.
I also do not share your opinion....
Strgts
05-13-2006, 06:25 PM
And since we have pretty much been told that there will not be a fourth
There will not be a fourth MY ASS. As long as this Movie makes Money there WILL BE A FOURTH
Psionic Force
05-13-2006, 06:27 PM
There will not be a fourth MY ASS. As long as this Movie makes Money there WILL BE A FOURTH
Until I see it officially mentioned that there will be a forth, then I will believe it. But until then, with all the cast members pretty much saying this is the last one, I tend to believe otherwise.
To each his own ...
PikaZeroX
05-13-2006, 06:31 PM
Of course this is the last one, they're running it into the ground.
Cyclops-Summers
05-13-2006, 07:03 PM
oh yeah!! me too I find X3 looks like MK annihilation !!! they are both sucks movie
Mar420x
05-13-2006, 07:07 PM
:down oh yeah!! me too I find X3 looks like MK annihilation !!! they are both sucks movie
yea i can agree mk sucks. but u already seen x3? i doubt it, buddy.
Cyclops-Summers
05-13-2006, 07:13 PM
U buddy!!!
no Cyclops uniform and Phoenix power'Jean during all the movie!!!! so damn it!! no necessary I see the movie!! these 2 things that's I wanted to see in X3
So you idiot ? let me hate this movie!!!
Aiden
05-13-2006, 07:26 PM
U buddy!!!
no Cyclops uniform and Phoenix power'Jean during all the movie!!!! so damn it!! no necessary I see the movie!! these 2 things that's I wanted to see in X3
So you idiot ? let me hate this movie!!!Are you an X-Men fan?
Mar420x
05-13-2006, 07:27 PM
U buddy!!!
no Cyclops uniform and Phoenix power'Jean during all the movie!!!! so damn it!! no necessary I see the movie!! these 2 things that's I wanted to see in X3
So you idiot ? let me hate this movie!!!
well i see your new member. so u did see the movie? i cant understand your writing since your complaining like a little boy who didnt pay attention in school. learn. read. write. it takes time. anyone can do it. :up: and im not no idiot pal im a respected member around here. check my contributions around this board. your @ the bottom of the heap.
lordofthenerds
05-13-2006, 07:32 PM
U buddy!!!
no Cyclops uniform and Phoenix power'Jean during all the movie!!!! so damn it!! no necessary I see the movie!! these 2 things that's I wanted to see in X3
So you idiot ? let me hate this movie!!!
So you think that X3 will be as bad as MKA just because we nevr see Cyke in uniform or firey effects for Phoenix? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Cyclops-Summers
05-13-2006, 08:06 PM
According to me? yeesssssss
I hate X3 just because no Cyke in costume whereas he is in the poster, no Jean flamming up, short duration involving characters and plots no developed
So what ? it's my point of view. no happy?
Aiden
05-13-2006, 08:13 PM
According to me? yeesssssss
I hate X3 just because no Cyke in costume whereas he is in the poster, no Jean flamming up, short duration involving characters and plots no developed
So what ? it's my point of view. no happy?This movie has more plot than the last one
lordofthenerds
05-13-2006, 08:15 PM
According to me? yeesssssss
I hate X3 just because no Cyke in costume whereas he is in the poster, no Jean flamming up, short duration involving characters and plots no developed
So what ? it's my point of view. no happy?
I'm not happy about people's point of views when they make ridiculous comparisons like that before even seeing the movie.
Psionic Force
05-13-2006, 08:16 PM
According to me? yeesssssss
I hate X3 just because no Cyke in costume whereas he is in the poster, no Jean flamming up, short duration involving characters and plots no developed
So what ? it's my point of view. no happy?
growing bored of people like this....
Boba_Fett_123
05-13-2006, 08:24 PM
All right, you know what? That's it. I'm done. This is just completely ridiculous. I'm completely ******* tired of reading all of this bull****. I'm out. See everybody on the 27th, when maybe everyone will shut the hell up.
FieryBalrog
05-13-2006, 08:24 PM
shut up!....my god!!
why the **** do you care? Shut yourself up, please.
All right, you know what? That's it. I'm done. This is just completely ridiculous. I'm completely ******* tired of reading all of this bull****. I'm out. See everybody on the 27th, when maybe everyone will shut the hell up.
Great idea !
bye :up:
shut up!....my god!!
i can't believe the way you behave xwolverine2 ..that's his opinion got it?
You wan't to "fight" it? be reasonnable , have arguments.
you can't handle a message board? , don't say anything and go away to do some boxing.
so maze if i said "gay people should all burn" would you respect my opinion?
I would say : learn to read and/or to think
there 's a big difference with what some has said here.
not really maze old boy, most people would stand up, but you seem to except alot of things. besides people are talking about killling fox execs in the cyclops forum, and other unspeakable things. It makes me wonder what else they would like to "kill" for dumb reasons......
xwolverine2
05-13-2006, 09:01 PM
well....im sorry this thread is so annoying!...
then theres people that say the final abttle is "reminisent" to MKs final battle
WITHOUT EVEN SEEING IT!
please Maze theres no defending the comment he made....
although yes what i said was rude...and i appologize:up:
xwolverine2
05-13-2006, 09:02 PM
not really maze old boy, most people would stand up, but you seem to except alot of things. besides people are talking about killling fox execs in the cyclops forum, and other unspeakable things. It makes me wonder what else they would like to "kill" for dumb reasons......
ROTFLMFAO!
AVP82
05-13-2006, 09:03 PM
I hate it when people start being pessimistic even though they haven't seen the movie yet.
StylishHokie21
05-13-2006, 09:07 PM
How is it headed in the same direction? MKA was horrible to begin with. Only two actors from the original came back. The cast wasn't all that great. The special effects sucked. The plot didn't make any sense.
xwolverine2
05-13-2006, 09:09 PM
How is it headed in the same direction? MKA was horrible to begin with. Only two actors from the original came back. The cast wasn't all that great. The special effects sucked. The plot didn't make any sense.
.....and the acting was horrible.......along with the music
Its time i step in, presenting X-3 meets mortal combat Annilation PART 1:
Opening SCENE:Ruins of the golden gate bridge
The x-team is surrounded buy numerous evil mutants, as they are scattered about the destoyed bridge. The evil mutant emperor lord Magneto has his forces ready to destroy mankind. Cyclops fights of some mutants, and sees Magneto laughing evilly ontop a pillar. He ISsurrounded buy his main guys Jugs,Pyro, and Mystique. Xavier comes hovering up on his new hover chair, with the other memebers of the X-men. Cyclops greets them, but the moment is broken by magnetos evil voice.
"TELL ME CHARLES, DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN WIN?" Magneto arrogantly asks.
"THIS IS WRONG ERIC, YOU HAVE BrOKEN THE RULES!" Xaviers yells.
Cyclops then bravely leaps at Magneto, but Mags hits him with a metal plate. Mags then picks up the weak Cyclops, and grabs him buy the neck.
"If you want to save one of you prescious X-men, then bow your head before me Charles." Mags says
The other X-men look at Xavier, and Xavier hover up to Magneto in shame.
"As you wish eric." Xavier says as he bows is head.
"SUCKER!" Mags yells out.
Mags breaks Scotts neck, and then laughs.
"NO!" Xavier yells out.
The other X-men yell in anger as well.
"IT HAS BEGUN!" Magneto states.
TO BE CONTINUED.......................................
xwolverine2
05-13-2006, 09:16 PM
Its time i step in, presenting X-3 meets mortal combat Annilation PART 1:
Opening SCENE:Ruins of the golden gate bridge
The x-team is surrounded buy numerous evil mutants, as they are scattered about the destoyed bridge. The evil mutant emperor lord Magneto has his forces ready to destroy mankind. Cyclops fights of some mutants, and sees Magneto laughing evilly ontop a pillar. He ISsurrounded buy his main guys Jugs,Pyro, and Mystique. Xavier comes hovering up on his new hover chair, with the other memebers of the X-men. Cyclops greets them, but the moment is broken by magnetos evil voice.
"TELL ME CHARLES, DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN WIN?" Magneto arrogantly asks.
"THIS IS WRONG ERIC, YOU HAVE BrOKEN THE RULES!" Xaviers yells.
Cyclops then bravely leaps at Magneto, but Mags hits him with a metal plate. Mags then picks up the weak Cyclops, and grabs him buy the neck.
"If you want to save one of you prescious X-men, then bow your head before Charles." Mags says
The other X-men look at Xavier, and Xavier hover up to Magneto in shame.
"As you wish eric." Xvier says as he bows is head.
"SUCKER!" Mags yells out.
Mags breaks Scoots neck, and then laughs.
"NO!" Xavier yells out.
The other X-men yell in anger as well.
"IT HAS BEGUN!" Magneto states.
TO BE CONTINUED.......................................
LOL!!.. as funny as that was, its the very thing that keeps this thread alive!:down
Bishop2
05-13-2006, 09:17 PM
For those of you that aren't familiar with Mortal Kombat Annihilation, it was the sequel to the video game movie Mortal Kombat which was a surprise hit. MKA tried to have it all, and failed horribly.
It was crammed to the brim with characters, there was no room for character development. The plot took a giant nosedive with pathetic plot devices and killing off great characters for terrible reasons. Sounding familiar?
I groan with each cast addition report on more mutants (If that model is Stacy X, WTF?!), and how important characters are looking to go out in a whimper (Especially Cyclops getting punked when he's essential to the whole storyline. Hell, even if he doesn't die he's apparently gotten the big shaft again. Where does he get sidetracked this time :down ). Mutant cure? Even if it's a cover for the legacy virus it's a lame plot device that rehashes "Bad man wants to get rid of mutants" from X2. They even have use a mutant to produce the "problem solving" agents they need AGAIN.
There you go Lightning. :)
I love you.
I've totally had this very same opinion for a while now, and have even made the Annihilation comparison. :)
not really maze old boy, most people would stand up, but you seem to except alot of things. besides people are talking about killling fox execs in the cyclops forum, and other unspeakable things. It makes me wonder what else they would like to "kill" for dumb reasons......
If some people have said that they are out of their mind.
and that has nothing to do with this thread.
Cyclops-Summers
05-14-2006, 06:21 PM
This movie is so short they dont know how use and develop x-men characters, it's a shame!!!!!!!!!! This movie is bad for me that's all!!!!
Cyclops dies instead of participing during all the movie.. In a plot involving Phoenix we need him !!! more than Wolverine n Storm!!
They completely left out Scott its ridiculous!!
I hate this movie and hate every people who dont understand !!!!!!!!! You like this movie I dont care, but me, I hate!!! its simple as that
Spidey 2007
05-14-2006, 06:22 PM
This movie is so short they dont know how use and develop x-men characters, it's a shame!!!!!!!!!! This movie is bad for me that's all!!!!
Cyclops dies instead of participing during all the movie.. In a plot involving Phoenix we need him !!! more than Wolverine n Storm!!
They completely left out Scott its ridiculous!!
I hate this movie and hate every people who dont understand !!!!!!!!! You like this movie I dont care, but me, I hate!!! its simple as that
why did you bump this, lol.... just go see it, you cant judge it yet...
Cyclops-Summers
05-14-2006, 06:25 PM
I dont see yet this movie. So what ? I criticize if I want
I know Cyclops dies and doesnt participate at final (its a shame!!!)
I know Phoenix power are sucked, not the same which Singer began to introduce in X2 (flamme energy around body, shinning eyes)
For these reasons, I f****** the film. so disapointed. That's all
Spidey 2007
05-14-2006, 06:26 PM
I dont see yet this movie. So what ? I criticize if I want
I know Cyclops dies and doesnt participate at final (its a shame!!!)
I know Phoenix power are sucked, not the same which Singer began to introduce in X2 (flamme energy around body, shinning eyes)
For these reasons, I f****** the film. so disapointed. That's all
okay... just go see it. you might liek it :up:
Aiden
05-14-2006, 06:28 PM
This movie is so short they dont know how use and develop x-men characters, it's a shame!!!!!!!!!! This movie is bad for me that's all!!!!
Cyclops dies instead of participing during all the movie.. In a plot involving Phoenix we need him !!! more than Wolverine n Storm!!
They completely left out Scott its ridiculous!!
I hate this movie and hate every people who dont understand !!!!!!!!! You like this movie I dont care, but me, I hate!!! its simple as thatStop complaining and overusing exclamation marks
xwolverine2
05-14-2006, 06:30 PM
as kurosawa would put it...
this thread is a slap in the face to x3 fans!
SilentType
05-14-2006, 06:31 PM
They could edit the X3 trailers together and play them backwards and still end up with a better movie than MK:A.
I can tell you with no hyperbole that MK:A was one of the worst movie I have ever seen.
xwolverine2
05-14-2006, 06:33 PM
They could edit the X3 trailers together and play them backwards and still end up with a matter movie than MK:A.
I can tell you with no hyperbole that MK:A was one of the worst movie I have ever seen.
i think it falls under the worst sequels catagory too!
RagingTempest
05-14-2006, 06:37 PM
False. MKA was directed by someone else, Paul Anderson directed the first which was a GOOD movie. AVP sucked hard though.
It's obvious X3 and MKA are different movies, but they're going down the same road. X-Men 3 is under an even tighter schedule than MKA was, don't expect anything as awesome as X2.
:confused: Have you read the reviews? It has already been stated that X3 isn't as good as X2 but it is still a pretty good movie!!!
The Dark Defender
05-14-2006, 06:43 PM
If it's not as good as X2, it'd have to be a blank screen...no, wait, that'd still be better.
RagingTempest
05-14-2006, 06:45 PM
If it's not as good as X2, it'd have to be a blank screen...no, wait, that'd still be better.
:confused:
Vandal
05-14-2006, 08:17 PM
as kurosawa would put it...
this thread is a slap in the face to x3 fans!
Yeah except Kurosawa probably agrees with the sentiment of this thread and is just waiting to come in here and claim that they 'raped' the Phoenix saga like he does in every other discussion.
Spidey 2007
05-14-2006, 08:20 PM
thanks for the horrendous bump of this utterly useless thread :up:
Vandal
05-14-2006, 08:21 PM
thanks for the horrendous bump of this utterly useless thread :up:
Hey, I'm surprised its even lasted 6 pages..:confused:
lordofthenerds
05-14-2006, 08:21 PM
thanks for the horrendous bump of this utterly useless thread :up:
It was just a two hour bump. Sometimes people bump utterly useless threads from years ago.
Kurosawa
05-14-2006, 08:22 PM
If it's not as good as X2, it'd have to be a blank screen...no, wait, that'd still be better.
:up:
Kurosawa
05-14-2006, 08:23 PM
Yeah except Kurosawa probably agrees with the sentiment of this thread and is just waiting to come in here and claim that they 'raped' the Phoenix saga like he does in every other discussion.
I think it's common knodledge by now that they butchered the Dark Phoenix Saga.
But the MKA comparision is unfair...to MKA.
RagingTempest
05-14-2006, 08:28 PM
I think it's common knodledge by now that they butchered the Dark Phoenix Saga.
But the MKA comparision is unfair...to MKA.
Your bashing the movie before you even see it, which isn't even as bad as people are saying!!! The reviews for it have been pretty postive so far!!!:confused:
Kurosawa
05-14-2006, 08:43 PM
Your bashing the movie before you even see it, which isn't even as bad as people are saying!!! The reviews for it have been pretty postive so far!!!:confused:
And plenty of other people are praising the movie before they see it, so what?
Plus I'll never see it.
Sentinel X
05-14-2006, 08:55 PM
And plenty of other people are praising the movie before they see it, so what?
Plus I'll never see it.Its okay to have a negative views,I have a few things I dont like myself, but if you are planning on NEVER seeing it and you came here just to bash then youre being a major troll...no?
Balthus Dire
05-14-2006, 08:58 PM
They have developed a cure for mutants...
and IT IS GLORIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kurosawa
05-14-2006, 09:02 PM
Its okay to have a negative views,I have a few things I dont like myself, but if you are planning on NEVER seeing it and you came here just to bash then youre being a major troll...no?
Not really.
FieryBalrog
05-14-2006, 09:15 PM
I'll say it: they butchered the Dark Phoenix saga. It is, at the very least, commonly held to be among the top 2 or 3 arcs of the X-men comics ever. And what does it get? A subplot in a 95 minute movie between a Zombie Mute Jean and Wolverine.
Sentinel X
05-14-2006, 09:17 PM
Not really.YES REALLY!!!YOUR BEING A TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad:
Now,please stop :)
X-Maniac
05-14-2006, 09:20 PM
The trouble with Kurosawa is that he/she/it tends to make negative posts ripping things apart...only appearing when there is already a massive uproar over something (like Cyclops)... If this person contributed in other threads, about other characters or the X-Men in general, they'd appear a lot less trollish...
Reasons:
-Only two original cast members returned, the new castings are very bad.
-Atrocious story that makes little sense
-Johnny Cage, the most likeable character from the first movie, gets offed in the first 5 minutes.
-Raiden was very out of character, terrible continuity.
-Shao Khan is NOT related to Shinnok or Raiden. He's not a bald guy with fat arms either, should've left the awesome helmet on.
-Fan favorite characters show up out of nowhere, get in a fight and die or completely disappear off the face of the earth.
-Power Rangers esque fightingHehe, X3 certainly seems to have similarities like that.
- Well, I would'v liked to have Nightcrawler back and some baddies are miscast.
- The story of X3 sounds messy. They should'v just stick to Dark Phoenix.
- Cyclops.
- Dunno about this. Wolverine? Storm?
- Juggernaut is not related to Xavier
- Jepp. It looks like that's gonna happen.
- God I hope not.
RedIsNotBlue
05-14-2006, 09:34 PM
The trouble with Kurosawa is that he/she/it tends to make negative posts ripping things apart...only appearing when there is already a massive uproar over something (like Cyclops)... If this person contributed in other threads, about other characters or the X-Men in general, they'd appear a lot less trollish...
I put him on ignore a long time ago...lol.
Kurosawa
05-14-2006, 09:36 PM
The trouble with Kurosawa is that he/she/it tends to make negative posts ripping things apart...only appearing when there is already a massive uproar over something (like Cyclops)... If this person contributed in other threads, about other characters or the X-Men in general, they'd appear a lot less trollish...
The only characters that have much to talk about are Wolverine (who I hate) and Storm, who I like okay but she's been given Scott's parent/child relationship with Xavier. All the other characters are either cameos or are in small supporting roles.
Kurosawa
05-14-2006, 09:37 PM
I put him on ignore a long time ago...lol.
RINB blindly supported the FF movie and the way they butchered Dr. Doom in it.
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