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Darthphere
04-03-2006, 11:24 AM
It is a wrong opinion.


Nope.:o

Dangerous
04-03-2006, 11:25 AM
Yes.
The end.

ROBOCOP CPU001
04-03-2006, 11:33 AM
Wait.dudes..its only an opinion..this is how wars are started..over a persons difference's of an opinion.

Darthphere
04-03-2006, 11:37 AM
Wait.dudes..its only an opinion..this is how wars are started..over a persons difference's of an opinion.


I know, ive just been reading through this thread and hate to see some people being attacked for a different opinion, in a thread asking for an opinion.:eek:

ROBOCOP CPU001
04-03-2006, 11:40 AM
Unfortunatly..its the way of the world..to many people can't take another persons view on something.

That sucks,

:down

The Kid
04-03-2006, 11:42 AM
Let's have fight then. Meet you in the ring.

I can defend my views an all but kicking ass is so much easier.

ROBOCOP CPU001
04-03-2006, 11:46 AM
Lol!!

:D

Milkman95
04-03-2006, 12:11 PM
I happen to like all the films but prefer Rocky I - III. Rocky III was great because of the training scenes and his comeback and winning the title back with Apollo.

Even though Rocky V is viewed as the worst film, here's what I liked:

-The Mickey flashbacks.
-Pauly being the smart one knowing that Tommy was a bum.
-Adrian's speech to Rocky in the street about losing his family.
-Rocky's speech to his son to mend their relationship.
-"You knocked him down why don't you try knockin me down now"

The Adrian speech was excellent, about how she talks about Mickey, how he won those fights with heart, and about his son being lost. Awesome.

That's what I like about the Rocky films, NOT the actual fights, but the story behind the character and his family. The people that don't like these films can't see them for what they really are............

Dangerous
04-03-2006, 02:56 PM
Right on MM95, you are right.

\S/JcDc\S/
04-03-2006, 10:17 PM
I happen to like all the films but prefer Rocky I - III. Rocky III was great because of the training scenes and his comeback and winning the title back with Apollo.

Even though Rocky V is viewed as the worst film, here's what I liked:

-The Mickey flashbacks.
-Pauly being the smart one knowing that Tommy was a bum.
-Adrian's speech to Rocky in the street about losing his family.
-Rocky's speech to his son to mend their relationship.
-"You knocked him down why don't you try knockin me down now"

The Adrian speech was excellent, about how she talks about Mickey, how he won those fights with heart, and about his son being lost. Awesome.

That's what I like about the Rocky films, NOT the actual fights, but the story behind the character and his family. The people that don't like these films can't see them for what they really are............


BRAVO MAN. BRAVO!

The Kid
04-04-2006, 01:14 AM
That's what I'm talking about too. The mindless punching aspect of the rocky movies while cool and stuff, just isn't as interesting to me as the drama in the man's life.

I guess as a kid, all that mattered was the cool muscle-building scenes and the great fight at the end, but now i can't really give a hoot about that unless I know something more about the person doing them. Does that make senze?

Dangerous
04-04-2006, 07:37 AM
It makes some sense yes, don worry wesyeed we understand.

Kirsten-Is-Hot!
04-04-2006, 07:40 AM
Me too I don believe that he will die that would indeed suck.

Kirsten-Is-Hot!
04-04-2006, 07:41 AM
Bah all this talk of RB dieing, -nonsense.

Milkman95
04-04-2006, 07:51 AM
Don't worry, he's not going to die. If he does, I'd be really surprised and Stallone himself would have to change his mind in post-production, because from what I've heard, he's not dying.

Milkman95
04-04-2006, 07:54 AM
Rocky is not going to die - it's going to be an uplifting ending - it's a story about never giving up, no matter how old you are. Listen to the dialogue in the teaser trailer again and look at the pictures from Vegas - he's smiling and playing up to the crowd after the fight.

He'd have to die of complications at home, by himself, a day or two after the fight, which I guess is possible, but being that Talia Shire isn't doing a cameo, I don't see this happening.

Milkman95
04-04-2006, 08:02 AM
It makes perfect sense, and in the end, that's what makes this franchise work, NOT the training scenes, his age, or the actual fights. The people that automatically dismiss this film just think about one thing - Rocky's age, which is pretty ridiculous, but to each their own.

\S/JcDc\S/
04-04-2006, 08:19 PM
Don't worry, he's not going to die. If he does, I'd be really surprised and Stallone himself would have to change his mind in post-production, because from what I've heard, he's not dying.


To me it would be a cliche move to have him die so I hope you are right.

Neto Magnus
04-04-2006, 08:29 PM
I'll only like this movie if he dies before the big fight. now that's suspense!:up:

ROBOCOP CPU001
04-05-2006, 02:31 AM
IMO he should die.. What an impact and a bow out to a fantastic charactor. surly he can not be thinking ROCKY7???

Milkman95
04-05-2006, 08:36 AM
IMO he should die.. What an impact and a bow out to a fantastic charactor. surly he can not be thinking ROCKY7???

No, Rocky 7 will NOT happen. He wants to send the character out on a high note that's inspirational. Death is NOT inspirational in my opinion.

My opinion is that he'll lose by decision but a lot of people will think he won the fight. The last shot of the film will be him on the steps standing next to his own statue more than likely.........

Dangerous
04-05-2006, 09:34 AM
No, Rocky 7 will NOT happen. He wants to send the character out on a high note that's inspirational. Death is NOT inspirational in my opinion.

My opinion is that he'll lose by decision but a lot of people will think he won the fight. The last shot of the film will be him on the steps standing next to his own statue more than likely.........

Preach brother,

I agree Rocky dieing would be a total downer.
I know this will be the last film in the series, Stallone has gone on record to say this. He never said that about any of the previous films.
I'm also guessing he will loose by decision, just going the distance but giving the champ something to chew on.
Just like the first film.
RB will be awesome.

Dangerous
04-05-2006, 09:38 AM
Yeah, I just think that after reading the synopsis RB is a really cool story.

Dangerous
04-05-2006, 09:40 AM
No way like you say the ending will be uplifting.

Can't wait to see the fight, Tarver sais in interviews that him and Stallone really worked on making the fight look realistic. He said people will be impressed by what they have done w/ it.

Bad Superman
04-05-2006, 09:48 AM
I read somewhere in one of the four endings that were shot it seems he could die. . . . :(

I'll do some checking to confirm.

Wilhelm-Scream
04-05-2006, 10:12 AM
The people that automatically dismiss this film just think about one thing - Rocky's age, which is pretty ridiculous, but to each their own.Not true. I don't care about the age as much as the fact that it's just pathetic when your career is in the doldrums compared to your glory days, so you go back to the well again (see:Basic Instinct 2)

I feel the same about any movie that was a classic as a stand-alone, but then they make 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6...as if they're now Police Academy

Like Alien - Brilliant, Aliens - the BEST!.....3? 4? AVP?

Stop living in the past and create something N.E.W.

Bad Superman
04-06-2006, 07:36 AM
One of the endings DOES point that Rocky may die. Just confirmed it with a poster at Stallone Zone who was at the Vegas shooting.

Rocky is shown walking towards the dressing room with his entourage and he faints halfway through

Dangerous
04-06-2006, 08:31 AM
I guess it would be cool if he shoots 3 alternate endings.
The main ending will have to be the best tho.

Poeman
04-06-2006, 08:50 PM
rocky will die and three days later will rise again...

THE END... then promo for rocky 7: rocky 4ever

ToddIsDead
04-06-2006, 08:53 PM
Rocky VII: The Second Coming of Balboa

Poeman
04-06-2006, 09:21 PM
there will be a rocky movie when he is 70 where he is gonna finally take on the ARNOLD in a classic fight...

rocky vs the "terminator"

Milkman95
04-07-2006, 07:17 AM
One of the endings DOES point that Rocky may die. Just confirmed it with a poster at Stallone Zone who was at the Vegas shooting.

Rocky is shown walking towards the dressing room with his entourage and he faints halfway through

Well, he shot 4 endings and it's possible that could be one of them.........if that's the case he should win the fight. If he doesn't die, then he should lose by decision. Just my 2 cents.............:)

Bad Superman
04-07-2006, 07:28 AM
Well, he shot 4 endings and it's possible that could be one of them.........if that's the case he should win the fight. If he doesn't die, then he should lose by decision. Just my 2 cents.............:)

I agree :up: There have been practically no more updates on the film. :(

Dangerous
04-07-2006, 07:46 AM
Balboa will not die, in the real cinema version he will not die.

ROBOCOP CPU001
04-07-2006, 09:20 AM
Then one would assume he will screen the movie with the original ending then play the alternates..and see which version gets the better reaction.

Bad Superman
04-07-2006, 10:34 AM
And we could get all four endings on the Special Edition DVD. :D

ROBOCOP CPU001
04-07-2006, 02:13 PM
^^^

count on it my friend.

:up:

Milkman95
04-07-2006, 03:20 PM
I agree :up: There have been practically no more updates on the film. :(

The calm before the storm my friend..........I hope so anyway.

And yes, I'm sure we'll get all four endings on the DVD.............:)

Dangerous
04-10-2006, 10:45 AM
What I mainly want is a proper godamned SE boxset w/ all 6 films and them all having a commentary atleast.

Dangerous
04-10-2006, 10:54 AM
Yet you reckon Aliens is the best Alien film, better than the first in your mind.
Thus proving that if handled correctly sequals can be a great and worthy addition to the series.
As for Stallone going back to Rocky he had wanted to do it since the late
90's but did not have the backing then.

So I guess I beat you on both counts there.

Darthphere
04-10-2006, 11:00 AM
Yet you reckon Aliens is the best Alien film, better than the first in your mind.
Thus proving that if handled correctly sequals can be a great and worthy addition to the series.
As for Stallone going back to Rocky he had wanted to do it since the late
90's but did not have the backing then.

So I guess I beat you on both counts there.



Ooooo, you beat him.:down

The-Arachnoid
04-10-2006, 11:00 AM
Can't wait for this badboy.

The-Arachnoid
04-10-2006, 11:02 AM
Beating people is cool darth, anyway I agree wit dangerous Rocky Balboa is gona rock!

Darthphere
04-10-2006, 11:03 AM
Beating people is cool darth, anyway I agree wit dangerous Rocky Balboa is gona rock!


I agree with spelling.:up:

The-Arachnoid
04-10-2006, 11:06 AM
Umm?

Milkman95
04-11-2006, 07:38 AM
Yeah, if done right, sequels can be very good as well as entertaining. Stallone has been wanting to do this since the mid 1990's since he felt that Rocky V did not complete the story he wanted to tell.....

Batman333
04-13-2006, 06:32 PM
Ah, cant be worst than Rocky 5...

Plus Antonio Tarver is the main bad guy, so I will see it just for him.

WorthyStevens
04-13-2006, 08:16 PM
I put rule... Who knows, maybe it won't suck.

\S/JcDc\S/
04-13-2006, 11:54 PM
Lol it's been at least 5-6 years since I've seen the last Rocky movie. When he fought Tommy on the street I swear I remember them playing the rocky theme. LOL it was just off and out of place in that moment :D It's NOT the ring :)

Seriously taking their fight out of the ring sucked :down

Milkman95
04-14-2006, 08:50 AM
I agree, they should have fought in the ring, but like I said before, V does have it's strengths............

Milkman95
04-17-2006, 08:37 AM
New script review, probably just the first draft, but a positive one with minor complaints........SPOILERS:

Look At The "Rocky VI" Script
Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 12:57pm
Source: Dark Horizons
Author: Garth Franklin

'Elijah' has sent in this very thorough review and breakdown of the "Rocky Balboa" film script, giving us a glimpse at what we can expect late 2006/early 2007:

"The cover reads "Rocky VI". The title has changed since then, and lets hope this is not the shooting script. I am one of those who didn't necesarily HATE Rocky V. For better or worse, that is pretty much the only direction the story could have gone at that time (supposing one must make a Rocky V). Sure watching Tommy Morrison try to act is enough to give one AIDS (it happened once to a guy I knew), but otherwise its OK. In theory, Rocky V: not a bad idea. So we have Rocky VI. And its really Rocky I and V rolled into one. "Rocky Balboa" in ways is a stand alone film. One could almost watch this with total disregard for the other five movies.

This is really the story of what one does with the rest of their life after their soulmate has died. What does one do when your boy's all grown up, your love is long gone, few friends surround you, and all that's left are stories of who you once were? And for the first half of the script, it is a heavy-handed stroll down memory lane. It mostly consists of Rocky saying "Remember this from Rocky 1? Remember that from Rocky 1?". A reluctant Paulie placates Rocko' as he follows him around visiting all the landmarks of Rocky lore. The good thing is Paulie is still Paulie. If anything, he's got his nuts way more together than Rocky does. Paulie is resigned to a life in the meat factory (yep, THAT meat factory). But the point is, he's trying to move on and face the same nuts one just faces in life. Rocky simply lives in the past. Tellin' stories about fights with Creed and things Mickey said, all while grilling up some steaks in his own little "Rocky's" restraunt. And so, round and round the first half of the script goes.

It should be noted though, that the absence of Adrian is sort of liberating in a way. With the death of Mickey and Apollo, the death of Adrian is the next logical step. But also as a narrative device, Adrian has always tended to stop the plot to a grinding halt. In all the movies, her "dont do it/you can do it" mumbo jumbo is what MADE the others so predictable and formulaic. Without her, Rocky and indeed the plot come off a little...lost. But I think Stallone knows what he is doing by doing this. Not since Rocky 1, has a Rocky movie been so much about character study. I get down on the first half of the story only because it is a bit heavy handed and repetitious with the whole "Remember Rocky 1?" motif. Yeah we remember it. How about Rocky VI? But again in theory, Stallone is on the right track. I personally hope the rewrites reflect this.

And then there's the second half. Rocky reapplies for his boxing license, reinvigorated to see that an ESPN computer simulated matchup estimates that Rocky would beat current champ Mason "The Line" Dixon. Holy nuts. Mason "the Line" Dixon. Holy nuts. What parent would name their kid that? Apparently the same type that would name theirs Apollo Creed, Clubber Lang, Ivan Drago, Tommy Gunn or Union Cane. But given the tone of THIS STORY it just seems a little...gratuitous. Speaking of which, there is indeed a training montage but I somehow doubt we'll get any tacky (though highly motivational) power-rock thrown over this one. Again the tone of this film (aside from the strolls down memory lane) does not scream SEQUEL. I think this will be a different movie. Less self-absorbed, less faithful to the Rocky conventions (in all their tackiness). but nuts what do I know. The guys name is Mason the Line Dixon and Rocky is gonna need a training montage to protect himself from getting f**ked up.

From here we see how Rocky's renewed course in life affects those around him. Paulie realizes that resigning himself to waste away is not the same thing as "living". He's in, all-or-nothing with Rocky on this final trip. Rocky befriends MARIE and her wayward son. This is the same Marie that Rocky walked home in Rocky 1. This, my friends, is where Stallone brings it home. Thematically, the Rocky/Marie relationship is the point of the entire Rocky story (all six movies). Not Adrian, but little Marie. What did Rocky try to tell her? "They wont remember you, they'll just remember the rep. I'm gonna use a bad word: sleeper.../ Screw you Rocky!" Marie has since, blown it. She didn't take his advice. Stallone wonderfully introduces Marie (before we know she's "Marie"): She's a woman who looks like she's made one too many mistakes in her life." She doesn't really act as the replacement Adrian, and appropriately no romantic relationship develops between her and Rocky, but she is the female lead. And her unexpected re-involvement in the story really, to me, spells out the simple point of the whole Rocky saga: It's never too late to start doing something with your life. Or to at least TRY to do start doing something with your life. Paulie and Marie and her son help Rocky on his unlikely way back to the ring.

Some shortcomings: Robert. Rocky's son. What a punk-ass pregnant dog. I wanted to reach into the script and beat the nuts out of this guy. Or at least shake him. Hitting is wrong. What a prick. How many times does this guy give his dad the cold shoulder? Inexplicably he's somewhat embarassed by his father. Robert has gone corporate. Totally un-involved with 'the streets' or boxing. He is embarassed by his father's latest stunt to return to the ring, despite the fact that his co-workers think his father is the shiz-nit. Eventually he comes around and joins Rocky's team. Yay. Sort of a forgetable development. AND...

Mason Dixon. He has a little more heart than Apollo but essentially his situation is the same as Apollo's and Union Cane. In fact he seems to be Union Cane from Rocky V redux. Another black champ whose all glam and "got no respect" according to critics. Here I feel, Stallone missed an opportunity. He once again took the road most travelled. Mason isn't a bad guy per se, he's just the same whiny pregnant dog that Union, Tommy, and Apollo were. Like Rocky, he has something to prove, and Stallone nicely hammers that point. But still, one wishes (and by one, I mean me) that Stallone could have whipped up a far different type of contender. Mason need not be a supervillain like Drago or Clubber, and indeed he's not portrayed as such. Stallone writes it as if its two good guys fighting to make the same point. Mason is a little more down-to-Earth than Apollo. He's not an angry young buck. But if Stallone wanted to pair Rocky up against another decent guy, why not throw out all the rest of the cliches that hobble Mason? Aren't there ever any motivating factors for a black athlete in the Rocky movies other than "respect". It's been done to death.

AND.....SPOILER SPOILER

Rocky doesn't die. In this draft, the fight comes to a standstill just like in Rocky 1 (nice touch). Mason breaks his hand during the fight but fights on. This is wonderful because it gives Mason some heart. Oh and Clubber makes a cameo as one of the commentators on the fight. Seems that Clubber went on a downward spiral after his loss in Rocky III and has since found Christ. Anyway back to my eventual qualm: Mason wins by decision. That's fine, Rocky made his point. BUT. This whole script sort of lends itself to Rocky dying. I know Stallone initially drafted Rocky to die in Rocky V, and so that idea must still be floating in his head. But Rocky V wasn't building to his death. Was a good move on the producer's part to nix that idea. "Balboa" however deserves that ending. It deals far more with mortality, usefullness, uselessness and at-long-last reunions than any of the other movies. It just feels as if Rocky deserves to go. He wants to be with Adrian. I'm not dead-set on Rocky dying. It just feels that thematically and tonally Stallone could get away with it in this story. And to start cracking jokes about a Rocky VII would unduly undermine the point of "Balboa". But apparently Stallone has shot four endings for the movie. Maybe he'll sneak Rocky's death into one of those and try it out in post.

THE FINAL ANALYSIS

Tighten up Mason's character, tone down on Robert's dickishness, and ease up on the first half with all the Rocky 1/Adrian stuff and Stallone could have a fine Rocky film on his hands. In terms of characterization its second only to Rocky 1. The fight ranks high but more so in an emotional sense rather than a situational one (i.e. Drago). Bottom line I'd say it's better than Rocky V. With the best possible rewrites it could be a more important/interesting/inspiring story than Rocky 2 or 3. Nothing beats the original. And Rocky IV is just f**king out of this world, as we all know. Funny to think the Rocky that I read in Rocky VI is the same guy who went to Russia and wiped Ivan Drago's super-blood from his brow with the American flag. That movie has so much Survivor pumping through it's balls-to-the-wall "I'm gonna get you" veins that I don't think anything compares. Holynuts. I'm gonna go watch Rocky IV right now. Till then, don't fear for "Rocky Balboa". It's going to be okay".

Dangerous
04-17-2006, 12:26 PM
Well not gonna read that spoiler, but basically Woot Rocky Balboa!!!

Dangerous
04-17-2006, 12:30 PM
Hope it is decent length too like Long dong silver as it will be the last one.

Milkman95
04-17-2006, 12:41 PM
I don't think the spoiler is anything you didn't know already, since Stallone shot 4 different endings...................

Milkman95
04-17-2006, 12:49 PM
Well, it's now a possibility that Balboa could die - at first I really didn't like the sound of that, but if done right, it could be a good way for this character to exit............I know Stallone is thinking about it..........

Dangerous
04-18-2006, 06:48 AM
Godammit I hope he don't do it.
If it's an alternate ending I can live w/ that, but as you already pointed out MM95,- in the teaser the theme of the film is pushing foward and to keep going.

Milkman95
04-18-2006, 07:51 AM
^Yeah, that's true.

I know the four previous alternate endings, and death wasn't a part of it, but that was a while ago and things change sometimes. Hopefully it will be an alternate ending on the DVD like you said..........

Milkman95
04-18-2006, 07:52 AM
I'd like to see a review of a later draft - I bet we'll get one in the Fall.................

Milkman95
04-18-2006, 08:44 AM
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/rocky/blog/images/DF-04055.jpg

Bad Superman
04-18-2006, 09:52 AM
New script review, probably just the first draft, but a positive one with minor complaints........SPOILERS:

Look At The "Rocky VI" Script
Posted: Sunday April 16th, 2006 12:57pm
Source: Dark Horizons
Author: Garth Franklin

'Elijah' has sent in this very thorough review and breakdown of the "Rocky Balboa" film script, giving us a glimpse at what we can expect late 2006/early 2007:

"The cover reads "Rocky VI". The title has changed since then, and lets hope this is not the shooting script. I am one of those who didn't necesarily HATE Rocky V. For better or worse, that is pretty much the only direction the story could have gone at that time (supposing one must make a Rocky V). Sure watching Tommy Morrison try to act is enough to give one AIDS (it happened once to a guy I knew), but otherwise its OK. In theory, Rocky V: not a bad idea. So we have Rocky VI. And its really Rocky I and V rolled into one. "Rocky Balboa" in ways is a stand alone film. One could almost watch this with total disregard for the other five movies.

This is really the story of what one does with the rest of their life after their soulmate has died. What does one do when your boy's all grown up, your love is long gone, few friends surround you, and all that's left are stories of who you once were? And for the first half of the script, it is a heavy-handed stroll down memory lane. It mostly consists of Rocky saying "Remember this from Rocky 1? Remember that from Rocky 1?". A reluctant Paulie placates Rocko' as he follows him around visiting all the landmarks of Rocky lore. The good thing is Paulie is still Paulie. If anything, he's got his nuts way more together than Rocky does. Paulie is resigned to a life in the meat factory (yep, THAT meat factory). But the point is, he's trying to move on and face the same nuts one just faces in life. Rocky simply lives in the past. Tellin' stories about fights with Creed and things Mickey said, all while grilling up some steaks in his own little "Rocky's" restraunt. And so, round and round the first half of the script goes.

It should be noted though, that the absence of Adrian is sort of liberating in a way. With the death of Mickey and Apollo, the death of Adrian is the next logical step. But also as a narrative device, Adrian has always tended to stop the plot to a grinding halt. In all the movies, her "dont do it/you can do it" mumbo jumbo is what MADE the others so predictable and formulaic. Without her, Rocky and indeed the plot come off a little...lost. But I think Stallone knows what he is doing by doing this. Not since Rocky 1, has a Rocky movie been so much about character study. I get down on the first half of the story only because it is a bit heavy handed and repetitious with the whole "Remember Rocky 1?" motif. Yeah we remember it. How about Rocky VI? But again in theory, Stallone is on the right track. I personally hope the rewrites reflect this.

And then there's the second half. Rocky reapplies for his boxing license, reinvigorated to see that an ESPN computer simulated matchup estimates that Rocky would beat current champ Mason "The Line" Dixon. Holy nuts. Mason "the Line" Dixon. Holy nuts. What parent would name their kid that? Apparently the same type that would name theirs Apollo Creed, Clubber Lang, Ivan Drago, Tommy Gunn or Union Cane. But given the tone of THIS STORY it just seems a little...gratuitous. Speaking of which, there is indeed a training montage but I somehow doubt we'll get any tacky (though highly motivational) power-rock thrown over this one. Again the tone of this film (aside from the strolls down memory lane) does not scream SEQUEL. I think this will be a different movie. Less self-absorbed, less faithful to the Rocky conventions (in all their tackiness). but nuts what do I know. The guys name is Mason the Line Dixon and Rocky is gonna need a training montage to protect himself from getting f**ked up.

From here we see how Rocky's renewed course in life affects those around him. Paulie realizes that resigning himself to waste away is not the same thing as "living". He's in, all-or-nothing with Rocky on this final trip. Rocky befriends MARIE and her wayward son. This is the same Marie that Rocky walked home in Rocky 1. This, my friends, is where Stallone brings it home. Thematically, the Rocky/Marie relationship is the point of the entire Rocky story (all six movies). Not Adrian, but little Marie. What did Rocky try to tell her? "They wont remember you, they'll just remember the rep. I'm gonna use a bad word: sleeper.../ Screw you Rocky!" Marie has since, blown it. She didn't take his advice. Stallone wonderfully introduces Marie (before we know she's "Marie"): She's a woman who looks like she's made one too many mistakes in her life." She doesn't really act as the replacement Adrian, and appropriately no romantic relationship develops between her and Rocky, but she is the female lead. And her unexpected re-involvement in the story really, to me, spells out the simple point of the whole Rocky saga: It's never too late to start doing something with your life. Or to at least TRY to do start doing something with your life. Paulie and Marie and her son help Rocky on his unlikely way back to the ring.

Some shortcomings: Robert. Rocky's son. What a punk-ass pregnant dog. I wanted to reach into the script and beat the nuts out of this guy. Or at least shake him. Hitting is wrong. What a prick. How many times does this guy give his dad the cold shoulder? Inexplicably he's somewhat embarassed by his father. Robert has gone corporate. Totally un-involved with 'the streets' or boxing. He is embarassed by his father's latest stunt to return to the ring, despite the fact that his co-workers think his father is the shiz-nit. Eventually he comes around and joins Rocky's team. Yay. Sort of a forgetable development. AND...

Mason Dixon. He has a little more heart than Apollo but essentially his situation is the same as Apollo's and Union Cane. In fact he seems to be Union Cane from Rocky V redux. Another black champ whose all glam and "got no respect" according to critics. Here I feel, Stallone missed an opportunity. He once again took the road most travelled. Mason isn't a bad guy per se, he's just the same whiny pregnant dog that Union, Tommy, and Apollo were. Like Rocky, he has something to prove, and Stallone nicely hammers that point. But still, one wishes (and by one, I mean me) that Stallone could have whipped up a far different type of contender. Mason need not be a supervillain like Drago or Clubber, and indeed he's not portrayed as such. Stallone writes it as if its two good guys fighting to make the same point. Mason is a little more down-to-Earth than Apollo. He's not an angry young buck. But if Stallone wanted to pair Rocky up against another decent guy, why not throw out all the rest of the cliches that hobble Mason? Aren't there ever any motivating factors for a black athlete in the Rocky movies other than "respect". It's been done to death.

AND.....SPOILER SPOILER

Rocky doesn't die. In this draft, the fight comes to a standstill just like in Rocky 1 (nice touch). Mason breaks his hand during the fight but fights on. This is wonderful because it gives Mason some heart. Oh and Clubber makes a cameo as one of the commentators on the fight. Seems that Clubber went on a downward spiral after his loss in Rocky III and has since found Christ. Anyway back to my eventual qualm: Mason wins by decision. That's fine, Rocky made his point. BUT. This whole script sort of lends itself to Rocky dying. I know Stallone initially drafted Rocky to die in Rocky V, and so that idea must still be floating in his head. But Rocky V wasn't building to his death. Was a good move on the producer's part to nix that idea. "Balboa" however deserves that ending. It deals far more with mortality, usefullness, uselessness and at-long-last reunions than any of the other movies. It just feels as if Rocky deserves to go. He wants to be with Adrian. I'm not dead-set on Rocky dying. It just feels that thematically and tonally Stallone could get away with it in this story. And to start cracking jokes about a Rocky VII would unduly undermine the point of "Balboa". But apparently Stallone has shot four endings for the movie. Maybe he'll sneak Rocky's death into one of those and try it out in post.

THE FINAL ANALYSIS

Tighten up Mason's character, tone down on Robert's dickishness, and ease up on the first half with all the Rocky 1/Adrian stuff and Stallone could have a fine Rocky film on his hands. In terms of characterization its second only to Rocky 1. The fight ranks high but more so in an emotional sense rather than a situational one (i.e. Drago). Bottom line I'd say it's better than Rocky V. With the best possible rewrites it could be a more important/interesting/inspiring story than Rocky 2 or 3. Nothing beats the original. And Rocky IV is just f**king out of this world, as we all know. Funny to think the Rocky that I read in Rocky VI is the same guy who went to Russia and wiped Ivan Drago's super-blood from his brow with the American flag. That movie has so much Survivor pumping through it's balls-to-the-wall "I'm gonna get you" veins that I don't think anything compares. Holynuts. I'm gonna go watch Rocky IV right now. Till then, don't fear for "Rocky Balboa". It's going to be okay".

Awesome!! :up:

Milkman95
04-18-2006, 09:59 AM
^Yup, you got that right..........

ToddIsDead
04-18-2006, 12:00 PM
I'm pretty excited for this film. I've always been a really big Rocky fan. The sript review sounds pretty good.

Dangerous
04-21-2006, 05:19 PM
This could maybe be the best of the series.

Dangerous
04-21-2006, 05:20 PM
I'd be cool w/ that.

The Kid
04-21-2006, 05:32 PM
Marie is back! Well done mr. Stallone. I always wanted to see her again in a sequel.

The-Arachnoid
04-22-2006, 06:47 AM
Clubber Lang too as a commentator!

The-Arachnoid
04-22-2006, 06:50 AM
Rocky will no way die.

Super_Ludacris
04-22-2006, 06:53 AM
I heard Clubber Lang (Mr. T) is back as a ring announcer so hell yeah.

Mr. T will return :)

The-Arachnoid
04-22-2006, 07:31 AM
This film will positivley rule.

Super_Ludacris
04-22-2006, 07:34 AM
Clubber Lang is returning

Dangerous
04-26-2006, 05:26 PM
I know Lang as a commentator is cool as f**k.

Dangerous
04-26-2006, 05:31 PM
Do gimme no back talk sucker

Dangerous
04-26-2006, 05:33 PM
Yeah rocky etc.

The Kid
04-26-2006, 05:45 PM
I'm going to learn spanish so I can say how much this movie rules. IN SPANISH.

Furious Styles
04-26-2006, 09:16 PM
I'm not going to lie, I was hoping for a Rocky IV training montage. You know; bench pressing some 500 lbs. boulders, curling some 115 lbs tree, shovelling 30 feet of snow, chopping wood and making a nice chair, stuff like that. All with a crappy Survivor "let's try to revive our careers" song blaring in the background.

Now that's what I want to see...

Dangerous
04-28-2006, 06:11 AM
Training montages are not crap and who sais there wont be one in Rocky Baloboa?

Dangerous
04-28-2006, 06:12 AM
Cool Im gonna visit Philly and run up the art museum steps the day it opens.

Kirsten-Is-Hot!
04-28-2006, 06:13 AM
Hope Lang is still mean.

Super_Ludacris
04-28-2006, 07:00 AM
Of course he is Sucka!

*gives mean grill look*

Super_Ludacris
04-28-2006, 07:03 AM
Do gimme no back talk sucker

Quit yo Jibber-Jabber Foo!:mad:

Milkman95
04-28-2006, 07:12 AM
Mr. T has always had a cameo. Mike Tyson is also in the film. A new teaser trailer should be out soon by the way..........

Milkman95
04-28-2006, 07:14 AM
All I can say is this film will surprise A LOT of people.........the one's that have automatically dismissed it because of his age will more than likely eat their words, but we're used to close-minded people here, so no big deal.

The Kid
04-28-2006, 07:43 AM
I hope it's Rocky vS God next.

Darthphere
04-28-2006, 09:41 AM
All I can say is this film will surprise A LOT of people.........the one's that have automatically dismissed it because of his age will more than likely eat their words, but we're used to close-minded people here, so no big deal.


Close minded? But you already made up your mind its going to be gods gift to cinema. It does go both ways.

amazingfantasy15
04-28-2006, 11:40 AM
I have no interest in this movie. Rocky was a great '80s character, he doesn't need to be revived for on last fight. Rocky 2-4 were basically the same movie, just with a different "villian" (it's fun to watch them when on TV, but they are basically interchangable), Rocky 5 was total trash. Wasn't Rocky told he'd die if he went back into the ring? Will, he actually learn to block punches in this, will that be the big twist?

Milkman95
04-28-2006, 12:49 PM
I have no interest in this movie. Rocky was a great '80s character, he doesn't need to be revived for on last fight. Rocky 2-4 were basically the same movie, just with a different "villian" (it's fun to watch them when on TV, but they are basically interchangable), Rocky 5 was total trash. Wasn't Rocky told he'd die if he went back into the ring? Will, he actually learn to block punches in this, will that be the big twist?

I think most people would agree that Rocky V wasn't good enough to end the story on, so I'm glad he's trying to send this character off into the sunset better.

I wasn't looking forward to this film either until I read the script - it's a good one, and should be much different than what people are used to........he does manage to get re-licensed, and I also believe that his condition has indeed improved since Rocky V..........

Kirsten-Is-Hot!
05-04-2006, 07:32 AM
No it does not Rocky rules!

Kirsten-Is-Hot!
05-04-2006, 07:36 AM
Blocking aint Rocky's style, like he sais its about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.

Kirsten-Is-Hot!
05-04-2006, 07:39 AM
there better be one.

Milkman95
05-04-2006, 08:06 AM
Rocky Balboa Premiere News:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/060502m.php

It will premiere November 21st for it's 30th anniversary..........

Horrorfan
05-04-2006, 08:30 AM
I can't wait. Rocky lives forever!

Has anyone seen the action figures by the way? lol cheesy but kinda cool, from the makers of the WWE figures (heck rocky even gets two pieces of meat to punch the crap out of! and a ring too!)

The-Arachnoid
05-09-2006, 11:59 AM
I know them figues are badass! you can get Rocky from all the films plus all his adverseries! Will prob be picking up the Drago one to start with.

The-Arachnoid
05-09-2006, 12:05 PM
Just wondering what you guys think.

The-Arachnoid
05-09-2006, 12:06 PM
BTW- why did all the other Rocky threads get locked?
man this sucks we will have to build them all up again.

Dangerous
05-09-2006, 12:11 PM
It will rule, and yeah we had like 6 threads, I was hoping by the film dates launches the first page of this forum would all be rocky threads.
Oh well, there is still time.

Dangerous
05-09-2006, 12:13 PM
I will be getting Clubber Lang.

Mic
05-09-2006, 12:25 PM
The film will be what Rocky 5 should have been...........GOOD.

Iceman
05-09-2006, 12:31 PM
I really couldn't be sure - could go either way :(

Bad Superman
05-09-2006, 12:33 PM
There's a new cool teaser on the official website.

http://www.rockybalboablog.com/archives/2006/05/check_out_an_ex.php

Bad Superman
05-09-2006, 12:36 PM
http://www.rockybalboablog.com/archives/2006/05/check_out_an_ex.php

New teaser trailer.

Bruce_Wayne29
05-09-2006, 12:58 PM
the new clip rules. Love the song and the look on Rocky's face. Sly looks great. The songs seems familiar to me... is it new or is it the one Frank sings in the first Rocky ?

Two-Face
05-09-2006, 01:05 PM
http://www.rockybalboablog.com/archives/2006/05/check_out_an_ex.php

New teaser trailer.

That was great teaser, who taht young man next to Rocky?

The Kid
05-09-2006, 01:26 PM
Golly wiz, burt's so old now. It's nice to hear frank's old song, take you back.

Rocky looks so anxious about stepping back in the ring one last time. I hope he dies in the end but wins the fight anyway.

Bad Superman
05-09-2006, 02:21 PM
the new clip rules. Love the song and the look on Rocky's face. Sly looks great. The songs seems familiar to me... is it new or is it the one Frank sings in the first Rocky ?

Yes, it's sung by Frank Stallone but I think it's an "updated version" of the song.


That was great teaser, who taht young man next to Rocky?

To Rocky's right? His son, Robert.

Milkman95
05-09-2006, 04:33 PM
Thanks for holding down the fort Bad Supes - AWESOME Teaser!!

Stallone couldn't have used a better song sung by his brother - it's definitely an updated version from the one he sang in the first film.

Oh, and by the way Darthphere, I never said it's going to God's gift to cinema, just that I thought the script was superb and the film should surprise a lot of people...............

ToddIsDead
05-09-2006, 04:40 PM
I'm pretty excited for this. It looks to be pretty good.

Armand Z Trip
05-09-2006, 04:57 PM
http://www.rockybalboablog.com/archives/2006/05/check_out_an_ex.php

New teaser trailer.

Very nice, the pause, the fear, then the smile. Awesome.

DACrowe
05-09-2006, 05:15 PM
Well the last one sucked and now we're going with the rest of the original cast now gone or written off....so nope, this will be crap most likely.

Oh well.

GoldGoblin
05-09-2006, 05:53 PM
Suck

livrule
05-09-2006, 08:16 PM
I pray its great.

I like Sly and respect him as an actor and person. If anyone deserves a bit of luck its him.

I still think we need to see another Rambo movie so fingers crossed on this one.

The Dark Defender
05-09-2006, 11:19 PM
The last one was pretty damn good/underrated. The Mickey flashbacks alone have more impact than alot of entire movies do.

Rocky II is the most well made of the lot, and Rocky IV is the most entertaining, so I'm glad Sly is writing/directing this one.

Considering what the character is all about, doing what everyone else says that you can't, the fact that he's "too old" for a Rocky movie now can very well be what makes this the perfect Rocky movie.

Batman333
05-10-2006, 05:44 AM
hope it's good....Mr T returns!

Batman333
05-10-2006, 05:44 AM
But Andrian is dead, so that is kind of weird for a Rocky movie.

KenK
05-10-2006, 07:20 AM
But Andrian is dead, so that is kind of weird for a Rocky movie.

That will be interesting.

People have ragged on Stallone, but he's actually proved himself a very good actor from time to time.

thealiasman2000
05-10-2006, 07:49 AM
Given the kind of attention they give it on this boards (ie. 6 or 7 diffrents threads all about that movie), my guess is that most Hype users will gladly go to see the movie, therefore making it a sucess.

Milkman95
05-10-2006, 08:33 AM
^Totally agree, the clip is all class.

Milkman95
05-10-2006, 08:35 AM
The last one was pretty damn good/underrated. The Mickey flashbacks alone have more impact than alot of entire movies do.

Rocky II is the most well made of the lot, and Rocky IV is the most entertaining, so I'm glad Sly is writing/directing this one.

Considering what the character is all about, doing what everyone else says that you can't, the fact that he's "too old" for a Rocky movie now can very well be what makes this the perfect Rocky movie.

Exactly - this film will have a dual message for both Sly and the character of Rocky itself. I will say this again and again - this film will surprise a lot of people and will make a nice amount of money............

I SEE SPIDEY
05-10-2006, 09:56 AM
Suck ofcourse.

Milkman95
05-10-2006, 10:00 AM
Suck ofcourse.

Well, since you said it would suck oh mighty one, I guess it will..........give me a break............

I SEE SPIDEY
05-10-2006, 10:08 AM
Well, since you said it would suck oh mighty one, I guess it will..........give me a break............Back off.

Milkman95
05-10-2006, 10:11 AM
Back off.

Nah........

I SEE SPIDEY
05-10-2006, 11:00 AM
Nah........Something is wrong with you.

Cinemaman
05-10-2006, 12:39 PM
Rocky Balboa Premiere News:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/060502m.php

It will premiere November 21st for it's 30th anniversary..........

Good news. Hope full trailer will be released in July-August.

Cinemaman
05-10-2006, 12:42 PM
New clip looks awesome.

thealiasman2000
05-10-2006, 04:05 PM
I warn you: do NOT mess with Milkman95.

He's got the moderators on his pocket, so you MAY get banned for pissing him off...

Milkman95
05-10-2006, 04:09 PM
I warn you: do NOT mess with Milkman95.

He's got the moderators on his pocket, so you MAY get banned for pissing him off...

I do? Nah............

thealiasman2000
05-10-2006, 04:18 PM
I saw you adressing Lightning Strikes! as if he were your own brother, so don't lie.

Milkman95
05-10-2006, 04:29 PM
I saw you adressing Lightning Strikes! as if he were your own brother, so don't lie.

Yes, he is a friend but if I'm acting out of line, he has no problem telling me to shut my mouth. Same goes for the other mods........

thealiasman2000
05-10-2006, 04:33 PM
Well, you tend to provoke rage in other people, so we'll see if that lasts...

Personally, I don't care about yet ANOTHER sequel in a franchise that should have stayed dead.

ToddIsDead
05-10-2006, 04:40 PM
It'll rule. I have a lot of faith in this production.

Milkman95
05-10-2006, 05:26 PM
Well, you tend to provoke rage in other people, so we'll see if that lasts...

Personally, I don't care about yet ANOTHER sequel in a franchise that should have stayed dead.

Sure, but I guess you could say the same about James Bond........

Also, I provoke rage? I tend to kid a lot, sure, but provoking rage is not one of them.....

C. Lee
05-10-2006, 05:51 PM
BTW- why did all the other Rocky threads get locked?
man this sucks we will have to build them all up again.
They weren't locked....they were merged....just as this one has now been.

Milkman95
05-10-2006, 05:56 PM
^Thanks.........

C. Lee
05-10-2006, 06:09 PM
All you had to do was look on page 2....and there it was.

Hunter Rider
05-10-2006, 06:17 PM
All you had to do was look on page 2....and there it was.

What has happened here ?:confused: has pollmans thread been merged into milks ?:(

C. Lee
05-10-2006, 06:41 PM
What has happened here ?:confused: has pollmans thread been merged into milks ?:(
This is about 6 merged threads.....I lose count.

Hunter Rider
05-10-2006, 06:42 PM
This is about 6 merged threads.....I lose count.

So jumbled now like poor Rocky's brain after all those fights:(

\S/JcDc\S/
05-15-2006, 10:51 PM
This is dumb...

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163930

I was the first one to post news of a possible Rocky movie yet my thread gets closed :rolleyes: Stupid mods

Milkman95
05-16-2006, 07:23 AM
^Nice.

Bad Superman
05-16-2006, 07:26 AM
I warn you: do NOT mess with Milkman95.

He's got the moderators on his pocket, so you MAY get banned for pissing him off...

Yeah. . . You mess with one of us, you mess with da whole family. . .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/Bad_Superman/gangsters.jpg

C. Lee
05-16-2006, 07:41 AM
This is dumb...

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163930

I was the first one to post news of a possible Rocky movie yet my thread gets closed :rolleyes: Stupid mods
http://www.w3bdevil.com/forums/LOL-Doggie.jpg

\S/JcDc\S/
05-16-2006, 09:25 PM
http://www.w3bdevil.com/forums/LOL-Doggie.jpg

What's so funny? You evil man you!

Bad Superman
05-17-2006, 10:17 AM
From: http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23349

Jared-Syn City Says ROCKY BALBOA Isn't A KO...Yet!!


Merrick doesn’t understand why Stallone replaced that cute little squirrel…


Jared-Syn City e-mailed a report from last night’s screening of ROCKY BALBOA.
It should be noted that the film is slated for a late November release in Philadelphia, and will be issued Christmas Day everywhere else in America. As such, many of the criticisms Jared voices below may be addressed before the film’s final cut.
Or, maybe they won’t.


Either way, here’s Jared..



!!!BEWARE HEAVY SPOILERS!!!



Hey Aint it Cool peeps,

I went to go and see Poseidon on Friday and there was a guy there giving out passes to a Monday night sneak preview of ROCKY BALBOA.

I was excited, my girlfriend maybe not so much, but we signed up via the internet that night. We had to be between 17 and 49. When we got there we gave our names and ages again, and got put through a search for camera phones and the like with a hand held metal detector.

Some of the seats were taped off, but the theatre was quite full. Around movie time one of the staff got in front of the audience and told us that this was the first preview for this movie. He gave us the speech about how any reproduction of this film is a federal crime…yada,yada,yada. He told us to stay in our seats afterward to fill out the survey.

NON SPOILER SUMMARY – Right now it is pretty disappointing. There are some serious edits and pacing issues that need to be resolved before November. Keep in mind that this was the very first preview of the movie. Even in its current form it is 600 times better that Rocky V. There is some serious hope that this could be a very good or even great movie with some edits to it. No Mr. T cameo. No Talia Shire cameo. Fantastic performances by Stallone and Burt Young. Rocky and Paulie have some of the best scenes in the whole series in this movie.

WARNING SPOILERS AHEAD:

The movie starts out with the trailer that was released a little bit ago with the close up on Rocky’s sweaty face talking about how it’s not how hard you can hit, it’s about how hard you can get hit. If you don’t like this speech, well then tough luck because it is repeated almost word for word two more times throughout the movie. We are then treated to the usual ROCKY opening with the words scrolling across the screen and the memorable Bill Conti music. If you are a Rocky fan you will like this moment, but those moments are unfortunately far an in-between in this rough cut.

The movie then shows Rocky getting up in his house in Philly, and going about his usual routine. He goes with Paulie to visit Adrian’s grave. This is a touching scene and both Stallone and Burt Young do a phenomenal acting job throughout the Movie. Rocky goes to visit his son, who says that he casts a “large shadow” and we see that he is not really happy about being the son of the famous boxer.

We see the restaurant that Rocky owns, called “Adrian’s” Spider Rico is a regular guest and Rocky lets him eat for free every time. Rocky and Paulie drive around town to visit all of the places that remind Rocky of Adrian. The pet shop, their old house, the ice skating rink. There is some more great work between Sly and Young when Paulie tells Rocky that he just can’t do this anymore. Rocky then goes to a tavern and meets “Little Marie” the little girl who he walked home in the first move. He drives her home and meets her son, Steps.

The whole middle of the move is convoluted and desperately need some editing. Rocky attempts to befriend Steps by giving him a job and a dog. All of this seems so unnecessary and goes absolutely nowhere. Rocky and Little Marie get closer and closer, but Rocky tells her that although his wife is gone, he is still married. They share a brief kiss in the film, but never allude to anything overly romantic, which is good because the movie hits you over the head with Adrian being gone, so it would have felt out of place. We see various scenes of Rocky Jr. ignoring his dad and we also see Rocky make at least, no kidding here, 4 more trips of Adrian’s grave.

The Mason Dixon character played by Antonio Tarver is about as cardboard as can be. They never try to make you hate him, like a Clubber Lang, but they don’t paint him as a good guy either. They do a silly thing on ESPN where a computer says Rocky would beat Dixon in a fight if both fighters were in their prime. This is accompanied with some unrealistic computer animation that got some chuckles from the audience. They talk about it on the 1st and Ten show on ESPN and pretty much say that Rocky was and is a bum. Rocky doesn’t take well to this.

Rocky decides that he wants to go back into boxing and there are three great scenes with Rocky Jr. telling him that it is a mistake, Paulie telling him that he hasn’t been the same since Adrian left him and Rocky tearfully says “She didn’t leave me Paulie, she Died” (This is the best scene in the move, really great acting by both and very moving) and another great scene where Rocky gets his license back from the athletic committee after they originally tell him that they won’t license him.

Dixon’s people then contact Rocky about the fight and Rocky is blown away by the offer. He says that he wants to just do some local stuff and wasn’t thinking about something that big. Eventually he decides that “fighter’s fight” after talking to Marie. After he takes the fight there is a big scene with him and Rocky Jr. that is pretty good about their relationship and how Jr. blames Sr. for all his woes. The next day Rocky Jr. meets Sr. at….Adrian’s grave and the reconcile with Jr. telling pop that he quit his job and that he wants to be with him for this fight. Semi – cheesy, but forgivable. There is a rather boring press conference with Dixon and Rocky that goes nowhere.

We then see Tony Duke training Rocky. It starts with a funny scene with Duke telling him that he doesn’t have speed or mobility thanks to his age, but he has strength and that is going to be what they focus on. We see Rocky lifting weights to the “Take it back” song. Then FINALLY we get to see Rocky training to “Gonna Fly Now” running up the stairs with his new dog and, of course, drinking raw eggs. This got a great reaction from the audience. The movie really needs more of these moments.

From there we go to the fight. There is an exchange between Rocky and Mason where Mason says that he will take it easy, but if he has to he will hurt Rocky. Rocky says something like “A lot of people come to Vegas to lose, but I didn’t” Fight time with the whole HBO PPV treatment, all of the graphics and music feel legit and Jim Lampley, Larry Merchant and Max Kellerman provide the commentary.

Rocky enters the ring to Sinatra singing “High Hopes” which was done for comedy, but it felt almost too silly. Mike Tyson is in the audience and Rocky says hi, the announcers and the setting are much more realistic that any other Rocky movie. Dixon comes out to boos and even has a verbal tussle with Tyson before the fight gets under way. The music that is played here MUST be temporary because it would be so much better with the Conti music.

There is some stuff where it goes black and white and only the blood is red. I don’t think this works like Sly wanted it to; it just comes off as distracting. In the final round Rocky almost gets knocked out, but gets back up to finish the round. Again, different music would have made this scene work much, much better.

The fight is over and Rocky. . . LOSES the fight via a split decision. I know we are going for realism, but it’s Rocky for God’s sake! Oh well. Rocky walks back to the dressing room and stands in the spotlight while the crowd chants ROCKY…ROCKY…ROCKY… He stands in the spotlight a moment to soak it all up. This is actually a very good, well shot scene with genuine emotion.

The final scene takes place at… Adrian’s grave. We see Rocky putting some roses on her tombstone, say a few words, and then finish by softly saying “Yo, Adrian we did it”

CREDITS

THE GOOD: Stallone gives a fantastic performance here. He doesn’t play Rocky like the punch drunk buffoon that he was in Rocky V. The story is actually pretty realistic, the Boxing scenes look genuine and the HBO and ESPN moments lend some credibility. Burt Young also has some great one liners ( Rocky – Hey Paulie we are just about to serve the special. Paulie – Hey Rocko, Italian food cooked by a bunch of Mexicans ain’t that special) and the scenes with him and Sly are great. The rare moments that we were treated to the familiar Rocky music were a treat and there was applause and cheers from the crowd.

THE BAD: Some MAJOR editing needs to be done. There are some scenes that screech the movie to a halt. There are seriously 6 or 7 trips to Adrian’s grave. After a while they lose their emotional impact. WE GET IT! She’s dead and he misses her! The Steps character has to go. He has no place and that whole storyline goes nowhere. When we were filling out our survey cards in the audience, what I kept hearing over and over again was that no one liked Steps. The movie in its current form is WAY too long.

There are times when it felt more like an ABC mini-series than a movie. Mason Dixon is neither a sympathetic character, nor a convincing bad guy. Tarver does a good job, but he has nothing to work with. The Music needs some pumping up, but I assume that this soundtrack will all be replaced.

There is a VERY GOOD movie in there, but in its current form it is absolutely mediocre. With some edits to make the movie shorter, some better music, and some more genuine “Rocky” type moments this could be a very good movie. Stallone gives a great performance here.

It will be interesting to see what changes are made when it is released in November.

Milkman95
05-17-2006, 12:38 PM
Thanks for the heads up Bad Supes - sounds pretty good, especially if you're a Rocky fan. I'm sure Stallone will tighten up the film as he continues to screen the film.............

Poeman
05-17-2006, 12:46 PM
well they have filmed 4 different endings.. so we could see all 4 in different screenings

Bad Superman
05-17-2006, 12:51 PM
Thanks for the heads up Bad Supes - sounds pretty good, especially if you're a Rocky fan. I'm sure Stallone will tighten up the film as he continues to screen the film.............

You're welcome!!! I'm sure Sly will do a couple of adjustments. Overall, the film sounds to be the (hopefully) perfect end for the franchise. I think it should end differently though. I'm not bothered if Rocky loses by split decision.


well they have filmed 4 different endings.. so we could see all 4 in different screenings

I'm sure there's a big chance we'll see them all on the DVD. . . Here's hoping :up: .

Bruce_Wayne29
05-17-2006, 02:05 PM
Sounds interesting. It should be a great movie.

Cinemaman
05-17-2006, 02:14 PM
It looks like very good movie :up:

Milkman95
05-18-2006, 07:42 AM
MGM to distribute Rocky Balboa - looks like December 22nd people:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14594

ToddIsDead
05-18-2006, 08:57 AM
So, this is coming out early in Philly? I'll try to catch it then.

Milkman95
05-18-2006, 12:50 PM
The premiere in Philly is on November 21st I believe.......

ToddIsDead
05-18-2006, 12:50 PM
Nice.

Milkman95
05-18-2006, 12:55 PM
^It's for the 30th anniversary of the first film..........

ToddIsDead
05-18-2006, 12:56 PM
Cool. I really hope that I enjoy this movie.

Bad Superman
05-18-2006, 12:56 PM
Well, December 22 is the day!!!! I will watch it on the 21st since opening day for films are on Thursdays. :D

Milkman95
05-18-2006, 01:03 PM
Well, December 22 is the day!!!! I will watch it on the 21st since opening day for films are on Thursdays. :D

Very nice. I might make the trip out to Philly............it's not that far from Detroit....:)

Bad Superman
05-18-2006, 01:07 PM
Very nice. I might make the trip out to Philly............it's not that far from Detroit....:)

So you'll watch in November???? :eek:

Milkman95
05-18-2006, 01:08 PM
So you'll watch in November???? :eek:

If I can get a ticket to the Premiere...........which will probably be a million to one shot, but you never know.

Bad Superman
05-18-2006, 01:12 PM
If I can get a ticket to the Premiere...........which will probably be a million to one shot, but you never know.

Good luck.:up: Let me know if you get it.

ToddIsDead
05-18-2006, 01:17 PM
I'm going to see if I can get a ticket for the premeire. I only live about fifteen minutes out of Philly.

Milkman95
05-18-2006, 01:22 PM
I'm going to see if I can get a ticket for the premeire. I only live about fifteen minutes out of Philly.

How about grabing two tickets for Bad Supes and I?

ToddIsDead
05-18-2006, 01:23 PM
First I'd have to find out how the Hell to get tickets to it in the first place.

Bad Superman
05-18-2006, 01:40 PM
How about grabing two tickets for Bad Supes and I?

Thanks man, but I live a bit far (Puerto Rico). I wouldn't be able to make it. Thanx anyways :D

Milkman95
05-18-2006, 01:40 PM
First I'd have to find out how the Hell to get tickets to it in the first place.

We'll work on that.........I'll try to find out as well.

Bad Superman
05-18-2006, 01:40 PM
First I'd have to find out how the Hell to get tickets to it in the first place.

Good luck! Man, I can't wait for this film.

Bad Superman
05-18-2006, 01:50 PM
http://craigzablo.proboards18.com/index.cgi?board=SlyTalk&action=display&thread=1147896373

Some New Behind The Scene pics. Enjoy!!

ToddIsDead
05-18-2006, 01:53 PM
Nice pics.

Milkman95
05-18-2006, 02:11 PM
Great pics.........thanks.

Advanced Dark
05-18-2006, 06:30 PM
It was just annouced that MGM is distributing this film and within the text of the article the producers and studio mentioned Rocky Balboa was perfect for a Holiday release? Wasn't this coming out in February on a non-Holiday weekend? They must be moving it up to Dec 14th 2006 taking Narnia's spot.

Milkman95
05-19-2006, 08:26 AM
Friday, December 22nd is the release date for Rocky Balboa.

Short blurb about someone else seeing a rough cut of RB:

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/709/709151p1.html

Mr. Credible
05-19-2006, 09:00 AM
any word on the soundtrack?

Milkman95
05-19-2006, 09:05 AM
any word on the soundtrack?

Not yet, hopefully we'll hear something soon.

Mr. Credible
05-19-2006, 09:10 AM
i hope we get some awesome old school survovor type stuff. i can't see rocky with anything else.

Furious Styles
05-19-2006, 01:21 PM
Over at TotalRocky forums, some guy gave us a demo of a new Survivor song called "Fire Makes Steel." Which was much in the same vain as Eye Of The Tiger. Whether this will actually be in the final cut of the film or whether he was blowing smoke up our you know what, who knews?

Armand Z Trip
05-31-2006, 11:13 AM
Watched Countdown to Tarver vs. Hopkins on HBO last night. Stallone said Tarver was a player, a thinker, a famliy man, a good well rounded guy. Stallone stood in front of a tv and pointed out Tarvers motions in a fight scene, see how he sits as he throws a punch like a pro, not an actor. Tarver said Stallone really wanted him to hit him, that this was not going to be like Apollo thowing a jab from obviously a foot too far away and Rocky's head snapping back, this is going to be real.

There was this funny montage of everyone they interviewed saying how much weight they heard Tarver gained for the movie; he was 200, 205, 210, 212, 220 and finally 222 pounds.

ToddIsDead
05-31-2006, 01:25 PM
I watched that last night. It was pretty cool. I'm really looking forward to Hopkins/Tarver.

Dark Donnie
05-31-2006, 05:15 PM
I saw it as well...I think Tarver is going to whoop Hopkins, the real fight is Jermaine Taylor/Winky Wright

Milkman95
06-05-2006, 10:25 AM
New pics just to bump this thread:

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6136/8889328mediavast65200650741am5.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3149/8889329mediavast65200650937am9.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9784/8889331mediavast65200650913am6.jpg

Hunter Rider
06-05-2006, 10:27 AM
Sly,Arnie,Bruce,Caan,Travolta and is that Tom Jones ?:confused:

Milkman95
06-05-2006, 10:32 AM
^Yes it is. I have no idea why he's there.

Cinemaman
06-05-2006, 10:53 AM
Nice pics. Rocky and Terminators are friends??? :eek:

Just kidding :D

The Kid
06-05-2006, 11:06 AM
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm that cake looks delicious.

R3M3D1
06-05-2006, 12:36 PM
^Yes it is. I have no idea why he's there.
Party entertainment? lol

Cool pics.

MR.Fixit
06-27-2006, 11:39 PM
I read some post on here where people said he looks good for his age.Sly looks good for any age.Most of u should look in the mirror then look at him in those Balboa pics and see who looks better.not an insult,so dont take it that way.One more thing to everybody out there who sais Sly is too old for Rocky or Rambo.One of these days your gonna be 50 or 60 and still be able to do the things u did when u were 25-30.But there gonna be some that say don't cuz your too old and ur gonna get offended and feel challenged.Then your gonna look back and quietly thank Sly for showing people what you're gonna wish u could show them yourself:That your never too old as long as you the heart,will power and determination to accomplish something.

Furious Styles
06-28-2006, 12:19 AM
New pics just to bump this thread:


http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3149/8889329mediavast65200650937am9.jpg


:eek: John McLane! Rambo And The Terminator!!!!! :eek:

BTW! Hopkins WHOOOOPPED Tarver's a$$....Spanked him like a baby! Can't be good for the promotion of the film lol

Milkman95
07-05-2006, 08:44 AM
New Rocky Balboa blog site and new pic:

http://rockybalboablog.blogspot.com/

U.S War Machine
07-06-2006, 10:53 AM
http://www.lashorasperdidas.com/noticias/002572.gifhttp://www.sonypictures.com/movies/rocky/blog/images/DF-02108_r3.jpg

Bad Superman
07-07-2006, 09:39 AM
NEW CLIPS FROM ROCKY BALBOA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vinR-a3TdJc

Cinemaman
07-07-2006, 09:43 AM
^^^

Where can I download it on my PC? :)

Venom71
07-07-2006, 09:48 AM
NEW CLIPS FROM ROCKY BALBOA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vinR-a3TdJc
Cool Clip..is that Tony training Rocky again?

Bad Superman
07-07-2006, 09:50 AM
Cool Clip..is that Tony training Rocky again?

Yep. He's gonna train him to build up some "hurtin' bombs". Love that line :D

Advanced Dark
07-07-2006, 09:52 AM
Rocky Foreman. Look good. I'll buy a ticket.

U.S War Machine
07-07-2006, 09:52 AM
NEW CLIPS FROM ROCKY BALBOA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vinR-a3TdJcSweet man I might actually go see this movie now :up:

Bad Superman
07-07-2006, 09:52 AM
^^^

Where can I download it on my PC? :)

Just click on the link and wait for it to download. :)

Bad Superman
07-07-2006, 09:55 AM
I love how Sly tackles the age issue.

Milkman95
07-07-2006, 10:34 AM
This looks better than I expected, especially the age issue like Bad Supes says. If this is indeed in front of all copies of Dead Man's Chest, it's going to get some good buzz from it.........

This little $40m dollar film is going to make a nice profit I believe.

LostSon88
07-07-2006, 02:08 PM
Nice footage...i'm actually excited now! Milkman, you mean to tell me there's gonna be a trailer wid POTC: DMC?

Milkman95
07-07-2006, 03:11 PM
Nice footage...i'm actually excited now! Milkman, you mean to tell me there's gonna be a trailer wid POTC: DMC?

That's the rumor my friend........:up:

kainedamo
07-07-2006, 03:35 PM
Will the trailer be online???

That's what I want to know!

Poetic Chaos
07-07-2006, 04:35 PM
I saw the trailer with my POTC and it was awesome.

Dr. Evil
07-07-2006, 11:17 PM
New pics just to bump this thread:

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3149/8889329mediavast65200650937am9.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9784/8889331mediavast65200650913am6.jpg

Bruce Willis is always hilarious on Letterman.

black_dust
07-10-2006, 05:06 PM
Just watched the trailer on yahoo:) looks pretty cool

U.S War Machine
07-10-2006, 05:10 PM
Send me a link somebody

black_dust
07-10-2006, 05:11 PM
http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2006/NOPQR/Rocky-Balboa/trailer.php

there you go

U.S War Machine
07-10-2006, 05:18 PM
http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2006/NOPQR/Rocky-Balboa/trailer.php

there you goThanks that was pretty good trailer

Advanced Dark
07-10-2006, 05:22 PM
That was good. He's looking young yet old at the same time. I like the idea. I think this will bring back some awesome memories and probably do decent at the box office.

MR.Fixit
07-10-2006, 05:40 PM
This movie looks great.Our real greatest heroe returns.

Dark Donnie
07-10-2006, 06:15 PM
I thought it looked pretty good, kinda suprised me

U.S War Machine
07-10-2006, 06:37 PM
Coming out this christmas thats a pretty good time to release it. Nothing like a good holiday movie.

ToddIsDead
07-10-2006, 06:44 PM
Great trailer. This movie looks great. Really a return to form for Sly and the Rocky series.

WorthyStevens
07-10-2006, 10:39 PM
This movie looks awesome. Hopefully it'll be more along the lines of Rocky than Rocky V...

BatMatt
07-10-2006, 10:55 PM
I'm....excited :eek:
Definitely skeptical at first, but this looks like a quality film

Obsidian
07-10-2006, 11:06 PM
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/rockybalboa.html

Speedball
07-10-2006, 11:12 PM
um...
WOW!
I actually wanna see this film now.

WorthyStevens
07-10-2006, 11:46 PM
It's alot better seeing it on the big screen.

U.S War Machine
07-10-2006, 11:53 PM
I like that one part in trailer where he says "It's over when it's over"

"What is that 80's"

Stallone-"No, more like 70's"

Thats the good ol Rocky right there

dark_b
07-11-2006, 02:17 AM
NEW CLIPS FROM ROCKY BALBOA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vinR-a3TdJcyou do know that this is teh trailer right? :confused:

IKnowSomeJudo
07-11-2006, 06:36 AM
I like that one part in trailer where he says "It's over when it's over"

"What is that 80's"

Stallone-"No, more like 70's"

Thats the good ol Rocky right thereThat's pure senior citizen ownage right there.

Milkman95
07-11-2006, 06:52 AM
Simply outstanding. I've been waiting a long time to hear that music again, and it looks as though Stallone is doing a very "real" take on the character. Love the gritty look and him hitting the cow again.

Great touch with Pauly giving him a kiss on the cheek before the fight as well. This film is going to do well, despite the moans and groans from people saying "You've got to be kidding me". People will check it out because of curiosity I'm sure.

"The Greatest Underdog Story of Our Time". Bad Ass.

Cinemaman
07-11-2006, 07:04 AM
Trailer was good :up:

Milkman95
07-11-2006, 07:17 AM
Trailer was good :up:

I can't stop watching it. If the budget of this film is truly $40 million, it will do more than fine.

Cinemaman
07-11-2006, 07:21 AM
I can't stop watching it. If the budget of this film is truly $40 million, it will do more than fine.

I thought the budget is $24m :confused:

Well, I think Rocky 6 will make $40-50m.

Bad Superman
07-11-2006, 07:31 AM
WOW. I was blown away by the trailer. Awesome stuff. The computer fight looked like Fight Night Round 3 for X-Box.

Milkman95
07-11-2006, 07:43 AM
I thought the budget is $24m :confused:

Well, I think Rocky 6 will make $40-50m.

I actually think it's got a shot at $75m - $100m. A lot of people in the U.S. grew up on this character, so I wouldn't underestimate too much.

Bad Superman
07-11-2006, 07:44 AM
Bigger, Better Version

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GBR0GeQ9THw

Milkman95
07-11-2006, 07:47 AM
Nice.

Hunter Rider
07-11-2006, 07:55 AM
Awwwwwww man that trailer gave me chills:( :up: the dialogue is great "lets start building some hurting bombs":D and the last line of the trailer is gold,i smell a hit for this ,it looks fantastic:up: :up:

Milkman95
07-11-2006, 08:00 AM
Awwwwwww man that trailer gave me chills:( :up: the dialogue is great "lets start building some hurting bombs":D and the last line of the trailer is gold,i smell a hit for this ,it looks fantastic:up: :up:

I think anybody that has a liking for this character or likes the underdog story will dig this film.

You're also correct about that line, which is now in my sig...:up:

Bad Superman
07-11-2006, 08:07 AM
Lots of merchandise will be released. Toy figures from all six films and lots of other stuff. Stallone Zone.Com is the best source for updates and info.

Hunter Rider
07-11-2006, 08:20 AM
I think anybody that has a liking for this character or likes the underdog story will dig this film.

You're also correct about that line, which is now in my sig...:up:
:up:
I got chills the moment the music kicked up,it seems a fitting end for an iconic character IMO

Milkman95
07-11-2006, 08:21 AM
New pic:

http://www.rockybalboaassets.com/RBB/pictures/DF-08632.jpg

Bad Superman
07-11-2006, 08:27 AM
:up:
I got chills the moment the music kicked up,it seems a fitting end for an iconic character IMO

Yep, the film is the perfect Finale for the franchise. :up:

TrailerCues
07-11-2006, 08:28 AM
Yep, the film is the perfect Finale for the franchise. :up:

If this makes any money there will be mroe & you know it.

Bad Superman
07-11-2006, 09:05 AM
If this makes any money there will be mroe & you know it.

I seriously doubt it. Maybe Rambo, but Rocky's final chapter is Rocky Balboa.


Here's a link for the toy figures:

http://rockyfigs.com/

MIKE TYSON HAS BEEN SIGNED BY JAKKS FOR ROCKY LINE.

Why Tyson? Well, he has a cameo on Rocky Balboa.

raybia
07-11-2006, 09:07 AM
The trailer looked excellence! No disrepect to Stallone but it looks like a Michael Mann film.

I have a really good feeling about this movie.

My prediction is that the magic is back and it will gross $75 - $100m domestically. With a budget of $40 million, that would be a big time hit.

When all said and done I think this will rank critically as the 3rd best of the Rocky movies and a satisfying end to one of Hollywood's beloved characters.

I just wish I could see this film now!

Milkman95
07-11-2006, 09:31 AM
The trailer looked excellence! No disrepect to Stallone but it looks like a Michael Mann film.

I have a really good feeling about this movie.

My prediction is that the magic is back and it will gross $75 - $100m domestically. With a budget of $40 million, that would be a big time hit.

When all said and done I think this will rank critically as the 3rd best of the Rocky movies and a satisfying end to one of Hollywood's beloved characters.

I just wish I could see this film now!

It does look as though this film will have a ton of heart and be more emotional than the previous ones. I'll probably be crying like a baby in this film.............

IKnowSomeJudo
07-11-2006, 10:15 AM
This looks to be a Dark Knight Returns of Rocky movies. Hell. Yes.

Cinemaman
07-11-2006, 10:16 AM
I hope if Rocky 6 has success, Stallone will make 2 more, but only in this style (Underdog Story+Emotions+Serious Drama) :up:

cabel
07-11-2006, 10:25 AM
my brother said it best,

"Don't bother getting me a Christmas present. Stallone's got me covered."

U.S War Machine
07-11-2006, 10:25 AM
Oh they will

Mr. Credible
07-11-2006, 10:33 AM
as long as they have a montage with some of the same music from one of the first four movies... i'm sold.

that trailer was pretty good, too.

LostSon88
07-11-2006, 10:41 AM
my brother said it best,

"Don't bother getting me a Christmas present. Stallone's got me covered."

Hahaha....nice. :up:

Red Mask
07-11-2006, 10:43 AM
Rocky's back, eh? Sure why not? It could be a bigger comeback than Superman. :up:

TrailerCues
07-11-2006, 11:02 AM
The only way to market a Rockyh Movie is to do Trailers with the theme Rocky Fans all know & love. Rocky Trailers dont need dialogue just that one theme

Bad Superman
07-11-2006, 11:17 AM
my brother said it best,

"Don't bother getting me a Christmas present. Stallone's got me covered."

:D :up: send him the link for the trailer.

aerosmith6703
07-11-2006, 11:20 AM
The big question is how does the fight end?
-Rocky wins?
-Hot Shot new boxer wins?
-Tie?

Bad Superman
07-11-2006, 11:33 AM
The big question is how does the fight end?
-Rocky wins?
-Hot Shot new boxer wins?
-Tie?

No one knows what ending Sly will use, but he filmed four different endings:

*Dixon wins by unanimous decision

*Dixion wins by split decision

*Rocky wins by unanimous decision

*Rocky wins by split decision

The rumored ending is:

Dixon wins by split decision

aerosmith6703
07-11-2006, 11:36 AM
I would prefer the rumored ending.. it would fit more with the Rocky storyline. :up:

Bad Superman
07-11-2006, 11:38 AM
I would prefer the rumored ending.. it would fit more with the Rocky storyline. :up:

I'm a huge Rocky mark and I agree. It's the best way to go Dixon by split decision

ROBOCOP CPU001
07-11-2006, 11:38 AM
liked that trailer alot..cant wait to see this..and i can't wait for Rambos return..

:up:

is there a downloadable link for the trailer?