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darkzombiemutt

10-20-2005, 09:41 PM

I bet you jump to the last page of the story don't you?
Im not sure what you mean exactly. If you mean i read the ending of stories first, no.
The Lois/Arthur thing was not done well. I dont know why she would even like the guy besides the fact he has a good body. The lois I know would have made more fun of him then the color scheme of his outfits. His lame badboy surfer additude made my eyes roll. The sad Lois ending was a bit much, its not like thier romance was anything special. And if he would have made anymore references to the water, I would have turned off the tv.

"Im gonna float around for awhile" "I'll swim by later" and so on and so on.

Is that supposed to be cute? It got hella annoying along with "Bro" or "Brah" or however he was saying it. Barf

Now Im a huge fan of the show, HUGE. But I feel this was as much of a waste of my time as Velocity was. They had good intentions but it was badly executed.

OobeDoobBenubi

10-20-2005, 09:46 PM

Great

It is OBVIOUS Lex knows who those 2 were that zoomed off

Lex is gonna be turning his attention to Clark again

KikiDee

10-20-2005, 09:50 PM

Im not sure what you mean exactly. If you mean i read the ending of stories first, no.
The Lois/Arthur thing was not done well. I dont know why she would even like the guy besides the fact he has a good body. The lois I know would have made more fun of him then the color scheme of his outfits. His lame badboy surfer additude made my eyes roll. The sad Lois ending was a bit much, its not like thier romance was anything special. And if he would have made anymore references to the water, I would have turned off the tv.

"Im gonna float around for awhile" "I'll swim by later" and so on and so on.

Is that supposed to be cute? It got hella annoying along with "Bro" or "Brah" or however he was saying it. Barf

Now Im a huge fan of the show, HUGE. But I feel this was as much of a waste of my time as Velocity was. They had good intentions but it was badly executed.

I was teasing you.....but to each his own.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif I enjoyed it even though maybe they did overdo it with the silly references. I have a tendency to overlook that stuff. I understood why they set her up with A.C. and yes it seemed rushed, but he was pretty persistent and you could see how she softened when she realized he wasn't going for her tough girl act. She needed to get that taste of a superhero. However badly you think it was played it was meant as foreshadowing.

Like I said about overlooking stuff. I agree the bro and bra stuff was grating, but I've learned to tune things out when they begin to irritate me. Wait until you have kids or a really naggy spouse.

I do agree with you on some things, but overall I still think the season is going well. I haven't been disappointed yet and actually pleasantly suprised for the most part.

muscaremy

10-20-2005, 09:51 PM

Great

It is OBVIOUS Lex knows who those 2 were that zoomed off

Lex is gonna be turning his attention to Clark again

for sho you see the look he gave after he looked

ang_hulk

10-20-2005, 09:51 PM

best episode as far as fans go.

OobeDoobBenubi

10-20-2005, 09:53 PM

It is about time Clark wants to bring Lex & Lex Corp down :up:

Bah I hate the OBVIOUS foreshadowing of the future at the end of this Episode. Can this show get more obvious then what Loist & Clark talked about at the end :down

Serene

10-20-2005, 09:58 PM

I agree the bro and bra stuff was grating, but I've learned to tune things out when they begin to irritate me. Wait until you have kids or a really naggy spouse.

ROFL!
^5 <--that's a high five, btw. :D

amazingfantasy15

10-20-2005, 09:59 PM

Can't believe no one's mentioned the continuity nod to last week with Clark wearing the bandage where he got shot.

celldog

10-20-2005, 10:00 PM

Does Welling seem to have lost some muscle tone??? I thought I saw some love handles..... :eek:

Descendant

10-20-2005, 10:09 PM

Yeah I didn't like the bro thing about AC either. I hope they aren't seriously considering this guy to play Aquaman on the big screen because, unless he steps it up a notch, he won't even compare to the guys we have playing superheroes right now. I mean c'mon guys he may look like Aquaman but next to the seriously-improved Tom Welling and everyone else on the show he's not that good of an actor. Then again Tom and the others do have more experience, but still...

I noticed a lack of Lana and Chloe in this ep. Oh yeah and where's Lionel? Anyway does anyone agree with me on Lex's recent rushed transformation?

I thought the "bro" thing was funny as hell. I know how culture views that Aquaman is lame and by him saying that and the way Lex looked at him, just showed that nobody has respect for Aquaman. And the fact that AC didn't care and that he was still going to save the world was cool. I don't know it just seemed to fit with me like they were playing with the corny part about Aquaman but showing that it doesn't really matter because he kicks a**! Not as good as an episode for Season 5 and not better than "Run" but it was still a solid good episode for the season.

The Caped Knight

10-20-2005, 10:36 PM

I loved the episode,

(1) Lois looked SUPER HOT in the Red bikini . (Erica got one hell of a nice body.)

(2) All the Lois & Clark scenes were great. I love the ending (The Forshadowing was super in this episode.)

(3) Clark & Pro. Fine (James is awesome, I can't wait to see more of him.)

(4) Clark & Lex (that was amazing , This is the begining of the end for them, From Best friends to Enemies .)

(5) Lex vs. a weak Aquaboy. (Amazing, Lex is becoming worst than his father, SOB Lex Luthor = (THE REAL LEX LUTHOR) is begining to take compleate control of good Lex.)

(6) Superboy vs. Aquaboy (Underwater fight)

(7) Aquaboy (he wasn't as good as Kid Flash, but still enjoyable .)

cheungcheung

10-20-2005, 10:49 PM

i think the episode was nicely written, but because of the actor they hired to play Aquaman, it ruined it for me.

worst. actor. ever. but physically, he made a perfect aquaman.

everytime he opened his mouth, it just ruined it for me.

the underwater scene rocked.. thank god no speaking was involved.

:sigh:

oh well. the previous 3 episodes were too good. maybe it was time we were brought down for a bit. next week's episode looks ridiculous. but it's about lana so it's all good. :up:

also, not liking that lois is randomly back to bumming around teh kent's and smallville, being a loser townie once again. :down

LostSon88

10-20-2005, 10:51 PM

Smallville Season 5 IMO: 4/4

:up:

Oh, and this is pretty much off topic but to those who know...didn't Professor Fine/Brainiac give off kind of a Christian Troy kind of vibe (Nip/Tuck)?

Super_Ludacris

10-20-2005, 10:51 PM

also, not liking that lois is randomly back to bumming around teh kent's and smallville, being a loser townie once again. :down

LMAO!!!!

X-Ray

10-20-2005, 11:01 PM

lol @ Clark's JLA line ...

yah, i think everyone gets it :o

Pickle-El

10-20-2005, 11:17 PM

Seriously, I dont know why everyone is praising this episode. The dude who played Aquaman was a horrible actor that had no chemistry with anyone, especially Lois on screen. And the whole romance was completely forced. Why waist our time with that crap instead of actually flushing out the main part of the story?
Lex was great in his scene with Aquaman though and Marsters was Fine, pun intended. I hope his character really turns out, I like him as an actor, I know it was merely an into to him, but I was hoping for some more sinister crap from his end, even if it wasnt visable to Clark.
And there was like no pace to this episode, it seemed strung togeather with no climax.

Bah.

I gotta say I agree with DZ....Compared to 'Run' this wasn't quite as good. I really don't have much to add. Though, this was still better than half of season 4, so....

And that Durance... :eek:

Venom71

10-20-2005, 11:29 PM

Smallville Season 5 IMO: 4/4

:up:

Oh, and this is pretty much off topic but to those who know...didn't Professor Fine/Brainiac give off kind of a Christian Troy kind of vibe (Nip/Tuck)?
I only caught the last 20 mins of this episode...taped it and going to watch all the episode tomorrow...but the scene with Prof Fine...I thought at first it was Julian McMahon/Christian from Nip/Tuck guest starring...then I relaized it was Brainiac.

The Incredible Hulk

10-20-2005, 11:45 PM

Had a hockey game tonight so just saw the ep now. I enjoyed it, it wasnt the greatest episode and Aquaman isnt one of my favorite characters, but I think it got it's point across with Clark being more wordly. The actor who played Aquaman, while not great by any means, was good enough for the role. His phrases that seemed to bother some, really didnt bother me, then again I grew up in shore town and was a surf rat for many a summer. I also liked the setup of Marsters character, and I didnt see anyone else talk about all the hints that were given about him being an "educator". That's going to be very true in more than one sense of the world.

Will post more thoughts in the morning.

As for next week, I'm not sure about it. But the writers have been on fire this season so far, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt..Plus from what I hear there's going to be a scene with Clark thats going to put the fans into a minor tizzy... (a good one)

DarthSkywalker

10-20-2005, 11:46 PM

It was good. Not near what last week was but good. Really solid start this season, but next week could end that.

\S/JcDc\S/

10-20-2005, 11:53 PM

SV is getting this habit of not just making nods to certain things, but blatantly pointing them out in a manner thats almost insulting to the average intelligence of a human being :mad:

cough

The Incredible Hulk

10-20-2005, 11:54 PM

are you really that starved for attention that you feel the need to quote yourself? :confused:

Frantik

10-21-2005, 12:05 AM

I got a total kick out of this ep. There were a few tiny things that weren't perfect. Aqua man did have to grow on me but by the end of the ep, I was even enjoying him. Loved all the forshadowing and Lex is a very nasty boy now which is so good. MR must be really enjoying himself. I am unspoild so I don't know what is coming between the prof and Clark but it is looking good because the 2 of them played off each other well.

Serene

10-21-2005, 12:06 AM

are you really that starved for attention that you feel the need to quote yourself? :confused:
Posterbation.

MJZ

10-21-2005, 12:29 AM

Decent episode. It's kinda hard to knock it too much considering we just had Hidden.

Aquaman was decent but the surfer schtick got a little old, but it was no biggie. He and Clark worked really well together.

Next week's looks a little subpar though.

Oh, and despite what some may say, Durance looked bangin' like she always does.

jaydawg

10-21-2005, 12:44 AM

Here's the thing about the fight: it was literally three moves. AC attacks, Clark attacks, then AC does the waterball move....and somehow can see Clark on the land and smiles from within the lake. It sucked. The sole thing that was good about this episode was Professor Fine.

triplet

10-21-2005, 01:00 AM

I've gotta buy one of those tags.

I bought those, they're nice and heavy and are good quality.

:up:

I recommend them, not just because it's for a good cause. They're very attractive.

RKromwell

10-21-2005, 01:06 AM

I don't think it was that he could see Clark on land. I think it had more to do with the fact that he did not come back after that second blast.

triplet

10-21-2005, 01:13 AM

Marsters was one of the reasons I enjoyed this episode, despite my reservations with the actor playing AC. And to whoever said he was leagues above everyone else in the acting department I totally agree, although all the regulars are excellent too. But I think it comes from all those years working on Buffy and Angel.

No, actually I think it was due to all those years studying acting at places like Julliard and the American Conservatory Theatre...

triplet

10-21-2005, 01:20 AM

Now Im a huge fan of the show, HUGE. But I feel this was as much of a waste of my time as Velocity was. They had good intentions but it was badly executed.

I agree, to an extent, but I think I liked it better than you but it wasn't nearly as good as Run was, IMO. I just don't see it, for those that prefer this to Run.

The mind boggles, actually.

And Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer were the writers on this episode, and were also responsible for Velocity.

Did you know that when you mentioned that particular episode?

Pretty funny if you didn't, and very telling... ;)

muscaremy

10-21-2005, 02:12 AM

watchin it again .... i notice did ac ever say how he was able to do what he does..... cuz i didnt think so

oh and the brainiac line was "do you knw where the worlds greatest super computer resides" pointin to his head "the brain" again cant believe no one sed anythin

RKromwell

10-21-2005, 02:34 AM

I got quite a few smiles from the lines tonight. But when AC called Clark a boyscout I was rolling.

KalKai

10-21-2005, 02:40 AM

Fine saying "we only use 10% of our brain" that ain't true right? i remember reading somewhere that it's all a lie lol.

muscaremy

10-21-2005, 03:28 AM

boyscout yea forgot bout that one hehe had me rollin too

darkzombiemutt

10-21-2005, 05:26 AM

NHawk19

10-21-2005, 06:49 AM

Gotta say I liked this episode. Not as much as run but close. Only reason I give run the nod is because compared to that this one was kind of a carbon copy. Also A.C..s surfer speak was starting to become grating.

Things that I thought they did well; nice nod back to Run, Lex is definetly going darking and MR is pulling it off, Brainiac was handled well, Superboy was a nice one to sneak in.

Things I thought were forced; JLA though I did go nuts when I heard him bring it up.

Other than that the only thing I have to question is why the hell Lana doesnt know. For the love of god her bf was shot, killed, and brought back. She cant be that dumb especially after the no secrets speach.

Overall not as good as the first 3 but a far cry from Lucy.

KenK

10-21-2005, 07:00 AM

Where's young Bruce Wayne! I figure they'll have to get around to all the JLA heavy hitters at some point! Can't wait for them to do an ep where a mysterious woman named "Diana" comes to Smallville! But more than anything I want to see Bruce, especially since WB originally wanted to focus on him in his teen years for a series.

joke

10-21-2005, 07:06 AM

Well I just started watching this episode and.. Well, in the beginning when Lois appears in the bikini.. Is it just me or did she look like a twig? Or was she just really sucking in her stomach?

KenK, if I remember correctly, they can't get the rights to use Bruce Wayne's character in Smallville. And they've already mentioned a woman embassador from an island called.. (Check out the first episode in the series, 1x01)

NHawk19

10-21-2005, 07:06 AM

Mike_D

10-21-2005, 07:15 AM

Other than that the only thing I have to question is why the hell Lana doesnt know. For the love of god her bf was shot, killed, and brought back. She cant be that dumb especially after the no secrets speach.

Clark likes his womans stupid :D

NHawk19

10-21-2005, 07:20 AM

Clark likes his womans stupid :D

Yeah I can see it

Lana: I thought you were dead

Clark: Nope

Lana: But I saw you

Clark: must've been someone else

Lana: ok . . .How did you ruin your clothes

Clark: I fell down . . . .alot

Brainiac 8

10-21-2005, 07:42 AM

I agree, to an extent, but I think I liked it better than you but it wasn't nearly as good as Run was, IMO. I just don't see it, for those that prefer this to Run.

The mind boggles, actually.

And Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer were the writers on this episode, and were also responsible for Velocity.

Did you know that when you mentioned that particular episode?

Pretty funny if you didn't, and very telling... ;)

It wasn't as good as run, but the episode was good. When he shot Clark out of the water, I was lovin it. Plus I thought the JLA line was hilarious, and A.C. calling Clark Superboy. I also agree about Velocity, but there are not many as bad as that one, maybe Lucy, but not many more.

All in all a great episode with an interesting character addition. A.C. showing Clark that he had to look beyond his home town was great. Trouble isn't always just happening locally.

Strange catch of the episode: Did anyone notice the mountains around Crater Lake? Since when are there mountains in Kansas?

The Incredible Hulk

10-21-2005, 07:55 AM

Posterbation.

LOL now thats pretty damn funny...

Brainiac 8

10-21-2005, 08:17 AM

Also, how could you not like the respect Reeves recieved at the end of the episode with the Reeves foundation ad with Annette? A great nod to the original Supes!

dpm07

10-21-2005, 08:19 AM

I loved this episode!!

Definitely some of the best work yet by the cast, IMO.

The guy who played Aquaman was really good. I really like the allusions he made to his heritage, and that line about swimming with the seals was great!

Arthur Curry's slight surfer talk didn't bother me a bit. It made sense because of his age, and besides, what made Aquaman the character he is was captured in this episode.

I was liking Milton Fine (Braniac) a lot. The dialogue between he and Clark, and Clark and Lex for that matter was awesome. It's really cool to see how things are unfolding. I love it when they make references to various comic lore, and the history of the character in the dialogue. I look forward to these things in every episode, and for those of us that like it, we really received it in this episode.

Aqua was definitely one of the better episodes. It's liked they have really upped their game this season. It shows, and I appreciate their efforts.

celldog

10-21-2005, 08:31 AM

Didn't the guy playing Aquaman kinda' look like a beefed up "Eddie Haskel" from Leave It To Beaver :D ???

The Incredible Hulk

10-21-2005, 08:35 AM

Also, how could you not like the respect Reeves recieved at the end of the episode with the Reeves foundation ad with Annette? A great nod to the original Supes!

The man's name was REEVE, leave off the S for :supes:

Serene

10-21-2005, 08:39 AM

Didn't the guy playing Aquaman kinda' look like a beefed up "Eddie Haskel" from Leave It To Beaver :D ???
LOL! Yeah.. he did a little.
(except the guy who played Eddie had a bit more range. ;))

celldog

10-21-2005, 08:59 AM

LOL! Yeah.. he did a little.
(except the guy who played Eddie had a bit more range. ;))

HA!! :D "Gee, you look radiant today Mrs. Cleaver."

Immortalfire

10-21-2005, 09:10 AM

These one-word episode titles are getting annoying..with the vampires next week, is it going to be called "Suck"? :rolleyes:

Great show with Aquaman btw. :up:

mellyM

10-21-2005, 09:12 AM

I agree, to an extent, but I think I liked it better than you but it wasn't nearly as good as Run was, IMO. I just don't see it, for those that prefer this to Run.

The mind boggles, actually.

And Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer were the writers on this episode, and were also responsible for Velocity.

Did you know that when you mentioned that particular episode?

Pretty funny if you didn't, and very telling... ;)
lol..well I didn't really like Run, but I thought it was a good episode, I liked Aqua better only because there were other storylines going on..I loved the introduction to Prof. Fine, and the scenes between Clark and Lex..I felt like Aqua moved the characters forward more. I've gone over it a million times, trying to think of why I didn't enjoy Run, and I think I'm just not that keen on storylines that don't focus on Clark, selfish and perhaps slightly obsessive I know, but I didn't care enough about the Flash kid to watch an episode about him, as good as he was. But like I said, it was a well done episode, just not one of my personal favorites. And Aqua will probably one of my lesser favorites too, but I still enjoyed it more than Run.

The Lizard

10-21-2005, 09:13 AM

The Aquaman ep was better than I thought it was going to be, but it wasn't nearly as awesome as the previous episodes this season. Some observations:

- Lana doesn't seem to notice that Clark has no scar on his bare chest after getting shot recently eh? Either she knows his secret or she's really dumb....or the writers think we the viewers are very dumb.

-I'm glad someone did their homework with Aquaman's origin so it wasn't too far off from the comic. Ditto with the "Superboy" and "JLA" gags.

-Lex is all out evil now apparently after seeing him torture poor A.C.

-And speaking of "out", that was a pretty gay moment between Lex and Clark when Lex made that crack about his "pitchfork." :eek:

-RE: Next episode with the vampires -- I will be totally amazed if this isn't completely stupid. Did we not learn anything from the "Witches of Smallville" episode?

Brainiac 8

10-21-2005, 09:21 AM

The man's name was REEVE, leave off the S for :supes:

Thanks for correcting...I type too fast and have been watching too much George Reeves superman lately.:p :up:

Got the names cross-mojonated.:p

The Incredible Hulk

10-21-2005, 09:32 AM

The Aquaman ep was better than I thought it was going to be, but it wasn't nearly as awesome as the previous episodes this season. Some observations:

- Lana doesn't seem to notice that Clark has no scar on his bare chest after getting shot recently eh? Either she knows his secret or she's really dumb....or the writers think we the viewers are very dumb.

Or that the viewers werent paying attention and didnt see the big bandage on Clark's stomach ;)

http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/dtsgallery/albums/smallville/episodes/season5/504-07.jpg

-RE: Next episode with the vampires -- I will be totally amazed if this isn't completely stupid. Did we not learn anything from the "Witches of Smallville" episode?

It's a Halloween episode, and I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt since the show has been on fire so far this season

0neDisturbedSOB

10-21-2005, 09:33 AM

I thought the episode was pretty good. The guy that played "AC" definitely had the Aquaman look down, and the orange/green clothing was a nice touch.

Best part of the episode was the "JLA" remark....I actually laughed out loud for that one.

How good does Lois look in a bathing suit? Lana must be really insecure about her body, she's walking around in a frickin' one piece!

The part at the end with Lois and Clark talking about finding someone special was nice to see, it was a total "teaser" moment.

Great episode over all but I hate that they haven't really shown Clark use his powers all that much (with the exception of stopping the rocket). I would've loved to see Clark and AC REALLY use their powers to stop Lex's machine.

The Incredible Hulk

10-21-2005, 09:38 AM

I agree with your points, but that's just about the WORST Superman quote ever in your signature... ;)

avidreader

10-21-2005, 10:02 AM

Did she really need to rip on the guy's breath minutes after he saved her life? Then she's falling over herself drooling for him.

Although she didnt exactly say it, I think she was meaning he had smelly fish breath.

lol..well I didn't really like Run, but I thought it was a good episode, I liked Aqua better only because there were other storylines going on..I loved the introduction to Prof. Fine, and the scenes between Clark and Lex..I felt like Aqua moved the characters forward more. I've gone over it a million times, trying to think of why I didn't enjoy Run, and I think I'm just not that keen on storylines that don't focus on Clark, selfish and perhaps slightly obsessive I know, but I didn't care enough about the Flash kid to watch an episode about him, as good as he was. But like I said, it was a well done episode, just not one of my personal favorites. And Aqua will probably one of my lesser favorites too, but I still enjoyed it more than Run.

I'm with you Melly, I could never really get what all the hype about Run was. This one had a much more interesting story going on with our core characters.

I loved Clark's line when he said to Lex "that he wasnt going to believe his lies anymore" and then when he walked off and said "I guess I am naive" So he really does know that he's a BDA.:)

Its funny as they never film an episode in sequence but I thought Alan Ritchson's acting got better as the show progressed, or maybe it was that his character developed further as the show progressed. However, his surfie language didnt bother me and I didnt really notice it either, living in Southern California in a house with 3 teenage boys, I here that kind of talk all the time.

All the nods were slipped in really well.

Clark/Brainiac/Lex - this is going to be absolutely awesome watching this story unfold. :up:

And I loved the little scene at the end beteen Clark and Lois, him with his red t-shirt, standing behind Lois looking very much like the cape, and Lois in front in her blue shirt, symbolising the body. :up: :) It'll make a great screen capture if anyone out there has the means to do it.

Thirst looks like its going to be a real fun Halloween episode, and a really good laugh. Looking forward to it.

Brainiac 8

10-21-2005, 10:05 AM

Run was actually one of my favorite episodes the show has done. This one was great too!:up:

avidreader

10-21-2005, 10:08 AM

Run was actually one of my favorite episodes the show has done. This one was great too!:up:

I didnt dislike it and it was a well put together story, but they're have been more stories that I have enjoyed alot more.

KikiDee

10-21-2005, 10:12 AM

Posterbation.
LOL:up:

SuperSoldier87

10-21-2005, 10:25 AM

There setting up, after they introduce two more DC heroes we are going to have a JLA episode for Season 7.

Brainiac 8

10-21-2005, 10:26 AM

Anyone notice when A.C. was giving Lois mouth to mouth, he totally touched her boob.;)

Billy Batson

10-21-2005, 10:28 AM

Very good episode,WB should spinoff Aquaman into his own series.
IMHO,Man from Atlantis style.

http://epguides.com/ManfromAtlantis/cast.jpg

The Incredible Hulk

10-21-2005, 10:28 AM

Anyone notice when A.C. was giving Lois mouth to mouth, he totally touched her boob.;)

heh my wife pointed that out. to which I said, can you blame him? Hulk proceeded to get smacked :o :(

Brainiac 8

10-21-2005, 10:36 AM

heh my wife pointed that out. to which I said, can you blame him? Hulk proceeded to get smacked :o :(

I made a joke about it too. Brainiac proceeded to get smacked also by wife.:(

avidreader

10-21-2005, 10:36 AM

I would never have done that guys. :)

newbrando

10-21-2005, 10:38 AM

Ok, I’m back on the love train now. I loved the first episode of this season but then I didn’t like the two after it and started to give up on the show. Just by chance I taped Aqua last night. I have class and I get home really late so I wasn’t even going to watch it last night but as I was falling asleep, I popped it in. This is the first episode this season I have watched without fast forwarding at all. The story was very good. The acting was better. And I actually liked Lois. I am shocked. I laughed out loud when she said that her first book in college was a bartender’s book. (TWOP shout-out!) I think the writer’s get it that we think she’s a drunk and they appear to be in on the joke, which helps a lot. Also we finally got a “hero” who teaches Clark to change instead of the other way around. Clark was in his usual judgmental state, thinking that AC must be evil. And he actually changed his mind and followed someone else to get the job done.

Even more, I am loving evil Lex. There is still this vulnerability there that made me feel bad that he didn’t get to WOW his potential buyers with his great invention, even though I am happy that the weapon was destroyed. It’s that kind of complexity that makes Lex so intriguing in the future and I hope the writers go with that.

I understand Lois a little bit more now. She is that girl who always tries to act like she’s an expert on something. When she was drinking with the college kids, she was all, “I drank with generals.” When she is challenged about swimming, she’s all, “I swam with Navy Seals.” Half the stuff she says is probably an exaggeration but for some reason, I find that quirkiness more understandable than her random partying from last season. Also, I understand why Lois falls in love with Superman and not Clark first now. The line about “saving the world instead of owning it” shows that she’s got her eye out for compassion and greatness. That would also explain why she ends up flirting with Lex later too. He can sometimes be confusingly heroic.

So anyway, I’m happy. I will be skipping next week’s episode so I don’t have to get on the hate train. LOL!

avidreader

10-21-2005, 10:40 AM

newbrando

10-21-2005, 10:48 AM

You should watch it, or at least tape it newbrando.
You might be right. I don't watch stuff with vampires though. Worse case scenerio, I'll read a detailed summary of the show and then watch the good parts.

Brainiac 8

10-21-2005, 10:50 AM

But there's some really great Brainiac stuff going on next week, with the ship and everything.

Then Chloe starts work at the Planet and Princess Leia is her boss. You should watch it, or at least tape it newbrando.

I really look forward to this scene!
Per Kryptonsite:
Fine And The Spaceship
- In one of the last scenes of the episode, Fine has made his way into the LuthorCorp hangar and is face to face with the black Kryptonian spaceship. He smiles like a man returning home. He reaches out to touch the ship, but is interrupted by a clicking noise. Lex's henchman, Ramirez, is behind him and has a gun pointed to his head. "Shouldn't be putting your hands on things that aren't yours, professor," Ramirez tells him.
- "Actually, it is mine," Fine tells him. His hands morph into black metal spikes which pierce Ramirez's skull. Fine turns back to the ship and touches it. As his hand touches the ship, it too morphs into black metal. His entire body follows as he is absorbed back into the hull of the ship.....

KikiDee

10-21-2005, 10:52 AM

I would never have done that guys. :)

My husband pointed it out and all I did was say "I bet she was having a hard time keeping a straight face". I expect those kinds of things from my husband I would actually think he was slipping if he didn't notice.

KikiDee

10-21-2005, 10:54 AM

[QUOTE=Brainiac 8]I really look forward to this scene!
Per Kryptonsite:

[/Fine And The Spaceship
- In one of the last scenes of the episode, Fine has made his way into the LuthorCorp hangar and is face to face with the black Kryptonian spaceship. He smiles like a man returning home. He reaches out to touch the ship, but is interrupted by a clicking noise. Lex's henchman, Ramirez, is behind him and has a gun pointed to his head. "Shouldn't be putting your hands on things that aren't yours, professor," Ramirez tells him.
- "Actually, it is mine," Fine tells him. His hands morph into black metal spikes which pierce Ramirez's skull. Fine turns back to the ship and touches it. As his hand touches the ship, it too morphs into black metal. His entire body follows as he is absorbed back into the hull of the ship..... QUOTE]

This really does sound awesome........ I love evilhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

The Lizard

10-21-2005, 11:10 AM

Or that the viewers werent paying attention and didnt see the big bandage on Clark's stomach ;)

http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/dtsgallery/albums/smallville/episodes/season5/504-07.jpg

Do'h! -- I must have been distracted by something else during that scene! :O

triplet

10-21-2005, 11:23 AM

HAHAHAHA I had no idea they wrote it. Nice catch Triplet.

:D

The only reason I caught that was because I do like to do a little research for my reviews, and remembered that was in the list of the ones they did.... ;)

Reading up on James Marsters actually was very interesting... I gotta love a guy who co-founds a theatre group named after the group run by Orson Welles.

He's getting a glowing review for this episode from me, btw. Marsters did a brilliant job with not a whole lot of screen time.

:up:

Alan Ritchson, not so much.

The Guardian

10-21-2005, 11:23 AM

THIS EPI WAS AWESOME, THE UNDERWATER BATTLE WAS SWEET, I REALLY HOPE THEY BRING AQUAMAN BACK. LEX WAS A BASTARDO, AND LOIS LOOKED REALLY HOT!:eek: :p :D

The Incredible Hulk

10-21-2005, 11:36 AM

Do'h! -- I must have been distracted by something else during that scene! :O

werent we all...werent we all :)

Gmanofsteel

10-21-2005, 11:41 AM

This episode stunned me to DEATH! I loved it way too much (of course i was geeked the whole time when i realized arthur was wearing orange & green) He did smile and say "bro" one too many times, but i loved this ep. I loved him calling vlark superboy and the "boyscout". I have to admit something, when i heard the jla line, i was screaming "oh yeah"!!!!! tool . . . . . hee hee

this season is off the hook! (not thrilled about the next ep, but hey, they can't all be gems right?) amazing :D :up:

avidreader

10-21-2005, 12:25 PM

:D

The only reason I caught that was because I do like to do a little research for my reviews, and remembered that was in the list of the ones they did.... ;)

Reading up on James Marsters actually was very interesting... I gotta love a guy who co-founds a theatre group named after the group run by Orson Welles.

He's getting a glowing review for this episode from me, btw. Marsters did a brilliant job with not a whole lot of screen time.

:up:

Alan Ritchson, not so much.

It was his first real acting job, everyone has to start somewhere and he fit the bill in every other aspect, so I would give him a thumbs up for that. :up:

triplet

10-21-2005, 12:35 PM

It was his first real acting job, everyone has to start somewhere and he fit the bill in every other aspect, so I would give him a thumbs up for that. :up:

True, and his inexperience goes a long way to explaining his uneven performance.

He did do better in the scenes with MR and TW, He seemed more focused in those (probably got some help from the other guys, he talked about Tom giving him tips in that interview on K-site) but he was very uneven in the ones with ED.

At times their scenes were sweet and romantic, at other times awkward and stiff.

:shrug:

AgentPat

10-21-2005, 12:36 PM

It was his first real acting job, everyone has to start somewhere and he fit the bill in every other aspect, so I would give him a thumbs up for that. :up:While he definitely had moments of new-actor-syndrome, I'll cut him a break. It's not like his first big gig was as the star of a $250M tentpole film. :p

user123456789

10-21-2005, 12:43 PM

avidreader

10-21-2005, 12:44 PM

While he definitely had moments of new-actor-syndrome, I'll cut him a break. It's not like his first big gig was as the star of a $250M tentpole film. :p

I had to read that twice before I got it. :D

Brainiac 8

10-21-2005, 01:03 PM

A few other small things I liked that I caught:

Arthur mentions being raised by a lighthouse keeper. That is true to Aquaman canon.

Clark covering the bomb with his body was just cool!:up: Almost made me think of when Superman put the bomb in his mouth in the pilot of Lois and Clark.

Lex has a sample of A.C.'s blood now, I wonder if that is going to be touched on later in the series.:confused: :up: I hope so!:)

RakuMon

10-21-2005, 01:24 PM

Did anyone happen to read "Justice" #2?
http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/4317_400x600.jpg
It's the bi-monthly series written and painted by Alex Ross.
Anyway, I thought it was interesting that this issue came out the same week "Aqua" aired. One reason is that the issue features the debut appearance of Braniac. Secondly, the reveal on the last page of the ish looks just like this scene from the show (just substitute Lex with Brainiac):
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/smallville2/aqua6.jpg

NHawk19

10-21-2005, 01:32 PM

Chris Wallace

10-21-2005, 01:35 PM

the next episode: Aqua

Lot's happing in this episode.

(1) Aquaman Guest stars

(2) Lois retruns

(3) Lex is becoming more evil.

(4) More Professor Fine

(5) Clark learns more about Lex's secrets

(6) Super Battle between Clark & Arthur

and so much more.

Discuss.I'm not a big fan of Aquaman-nor of DC in general, for that matter-but I enjoyed this episode. It was fun. That's all that matters.

avidreader

10-21-2005, 01:40 PM

Did anyone else catch Lex's nod to AC about how he must be a freak if he's hanging about with Clark? I thought that was intriguing given the debate about whether or not Lex will know Clark is \S/ later in life.

Yeah, I did. And that he saw two somethingerothers swimming off after the weapon exploded.:rolleyes:

Serene

10-21-2005, 02:01 PM

Another thing I noticed.. which could very well just have been coincidence.. was when Lois said to A.C., "You're not a military brat, are you?" And he replied, "No, just a brat."

In fact, Alan Ritchson is a military brat.

Guess I picked up on that because I am too.

\S/JcDc\S/

10-21-2005, 02:11 PM

One thing is for sure, this guy was ripped more than Tom Welling ever was :o Seriously Tom got a bit flabby this season. Wonder why?

The Incredible Hulk

10-21-2005, 02:16 PM

I'm not a big fan of Aquaman-nor of DC in general, for that matter-but I enjoyed this episode. It was fun. That's all that matters.

wise words

\S/JcDc\S/

10-21-2005, 02:18 PM

As for Erica Durance, after Teri Hatcher playing Lois... Eh, Erica seems so average to me. Wish she wasn't even on the show.

Brainiac 8

10-21-2005, 02:53 PM

I'm sure they used Aquaman because he is one of the only ones that doesn't have a hard set movie slated yet. That is ok though, I did enjoy this episode very much.

AgentPat

10-21-2005, 03:02 PM

I had to read that twice before I got it. :DLOL!! Just having some fun. :D

Did anybody else catch Fine's line to Clark about having issues with people who change their minds more often than they do their clothes? I *totally* laughed out loud there. In fact, I applauded. Brilliant. :up:

celldog

10-21-2005, 03:21 PM

HEY!! How do you get to have one of those neat moving pictures to the left side of your post under your name???

KalKai

10-21-2005, 03:24 PM

One thing is for sure, this guy was ripped more than Tom Welling ever was :o Seriously Tom got a bit flabby this season. Wonder why?

you wonder why? let's see, The Fog, Cheaper by the Dozen 2.. and something called a life?

triplet

10-21-2005, 03:27 PM

HEY!! How do you get to have one of those neat moving pictures to the left side of your post under your name???

You have to have at least 300 posts before you can select a custom avatar....

BLAQUE-SPIDERMAN

10-21-2005, 03:30 PM

I really enjoyed the episode as well! When i saw the college professor, i was like: "Oh SNAP, it's Brainiac!" The highlights of the episode was of course the underwater fight between Clark and A.C., and Clark's diposal of the bomb that A.C. planted at the Luthor Corp lab! Does anybody disagree that Lex is uncapable of killing anyone this season, or having anyone killed for that matter? He's truly embracing Lionel's teaching from the first two seasons, and he's running with it!

BLAQUE-SPIDERMAN

10-21-2005, 03:32 PM

Oh yeah, the actor playing Aquaman was definitely in better shape than Tom! Com'on Tommy, you can't let the guest-stars' steal your thunder!! You're Superman for cryin' out loud! (LOL!)

GyLocke

10-21-2005, 03:38 PM

Okay, this will be negative, and I just have to get it out of my system, because this episode pissed me off.
James Masters was awsome, and the rest of the cast was okay (Barely any Lana, yay!) but this aquafreak ruined this for me. Look at his face. Like he's escaped from the mezezoic or something. I expected him to start saying
"Chumba hungry! Chumba likes food!" or something of that nature.
Look at his forehead people. Didn't he play one of the villagers in Ice Age? And it only got worse when he tried to act. It was cute when Arnie gave the same performance earlier in his carreer, but he had a freaking sweet accent, and therefore kicked lots of ass. This guy had nothing, no charm, no talent, just the ability to bug me to hell.
Then again, from now on, Kristen is not giving the worst performance in the histroy of the show. Yay!
They should give some lines to the janitor sometimes, he could out act "AC" anytime and clean your toilet while he's at it.
Also, this is Clarks first day at collage and we get... this? Four minutes about his new station in life? The new status quo?
Well done writers, you didn't find a place this season to explore the new day at school theme, but hey, you have new meteor freaks (and vampires!) to show, so I understand you couldn't spear an episode to show Clark's character facing his new environment. Don't worry, maybe his first day at the planet a few years down the line. But I can see they passing on that in favor of some giant, kryptonite powered purple gorillas. Maybe they should give the janitor some writing duties as well.
But then again Brainiac was freaking sweet, and even TW had some chemistry with him. Also, I'm in freaking love with Chloe, so I'm there for the rest of the season. And I know I should not encourage piss poor writing and horrible acting by watching it, but there are a few, very few talented and hard working people on the show who's work I kinda dig. If they didn't have to work with these hacks, how cool this show could be. So I'll toon in next week for... vampires. Kryptonite Vampires. In kansas. In a teen superman show. I'm a freaking moron.

Thunder Emperor

10-21-2005, 03:53 PM

As for Erica Durance, after Teri Hatcher playing Lois... Eh, Erica seems so average to me. Wish she wasn't even on the show.

Jc Dc quite whining, Erica is great and you know it. We all love teri and she is too damn old to be on the show so move one with life. :o

Thunder Emperor

10-21-2005, 03:56 PM

While he definitely had moments of new-actor-syndrome, I'll cut him a break. It's not like his first big gig was as the star of a $250M tentpole film. :p

thanks for that i will give him a break. then

AgentPat

10-21-2005, 03:58 PM

thanks for that i will give him a break. thenLOL! I knew you'd get a good chuckle out of that, Thunder. ;)

Lackey

10-21-2005, 04:01 PM

As for Erica Durance, after Teri Hatcher playing Lois... Eh, Erica seems so average to me. Wish she wasn't even on the show.

Teri Hatcher made a crappy Lois

Pickle-El

10-21-2005, 04:15 PM

Jc Dc quite whining, Erica is great and you know it. We all love teri and she is too damn old to be on the show so move one with life. :o

This is funny.

Spydernorbs

10-21-2005, 05:20 PM

AC: Maybe we should start a Junior Lifeguard Association or something.

Clark: I don't think I'm ready for the JLA yet.

CLASSIC!!!!!!

avidreader

10-21-2005, 05:26 PM

LOL!! Just having some fun. :D

Did anybody else catch Fine's line to Clark about having issues with people who change their minds more often than they do their clothes? I *totally* laughed out loud there. In fact, I applauded. Brilliant. :up:

I was gonna say I knew there must have been something to that line , but I didnt get it, then all of a sudden I got it. Duh!

That is funny.:) :supes:

Scooter

10-21-2005, 06:24 PM

I was gonna say I knew there must have been something to that line , but I didnt get it, then all of a sudden I got it. Duh!

That is funny.:) :supes:

I don't get it.

:O

avidreader

10-21-2005, 06:46 PM

I don't get it.

Who changes outfits all the time, to become someone else. ;)

SLYspyder

10-21-2005, 06:53 PM

Does Welling seem to have lost some muscle tone??? I thought I saw some love handles..... :eek:

yup, that's what it looked like to me. I thought Wellings was still bigger than me, but i guess he's not after all.

\S/JcDc\S/

10-21-2005, 07:27 PM

This is funny.

Quite funny :)

Heh heh.

Thunder must have made up a conversation in his own head that had me saying Teri should be on the show :confused: LOL he's crazy.

Scooter

10-21-2005, 08:23 PM

Who changes outfits all the time, to become someone else. ;)

Still not following...

muscaremy

10-21-2005, 09:21 PM

whats the show bout scooter

storyteller

10-21-2005, 09:52 PM

This episode restored my faith in the show. Aquaman is accurate(he aint king of the seas yet and in no way did they seriously mess with his origin or where he's going). Kinda hoped clark would have mention bart but oh well. Lex is seriously coming along. They could end lex stay on the show now and that be it for his story. The whole lois thing is getting ridicules though. Yes we get it superman and lois, lois and clark. Aquaman was good. I didnt actually expect there to be fight and in which clark gets owned.

Serene

10-21-2005, 09:58 PM

Kinda hoped clark would have mention bart but oh well..

He did. Not by name, perhaps, but he did say something to Chloe about a kid he knew that could run really fast. I thought it was cute the way he said it with kind of an amused and look on his face.

The Incredible Hulk

10-21-2005, 10:04 PM

Where's Sage been with the screen caps? :(

KikiDee

10-21-2005, 10:23 PM

Still not following...

:supes:

Thunder Emperor

10-21-2005, 10:28 PM

Quite funny :)

Heh heh.

Thunder must have made up a conversation in his own head that had me saying Teri should be on the show :confused: LOL he's crazy.

sure

Scooter

10-21-2005, 10:48 PM

:supes:

OOOOOOOOOOOh! I'm a moron.

In that case, that joke wasn't all that funny.

user123456789

10-22-2005, 01:12 AM

yup, that's what it looked like to me. I thought Wellings was still bigger than me, but i guess he's not after all.

When we first saw still pics of Tom in aqua, I just thought he lost some definition. But aftering seeing his shirtless body in motion, he has just lost so much muscle mass.

And yes, there are a dozen reasons why he has lost mass, ie. time, movies, other things, a life, etc... but, i am a full time college student, and no matter how busy I get, i always have 3-4 free times a week to hit the weights for ~45 min. I guess the producers and Tom don't stress too much over his physique?

celldog

10-22-2005, 02:42 AM

When we first saw still pics of Tom in aqua, I just thought he lost some definition. But aftering seeing his shirtless body in motion, he has just lost so much muscle mass.

And yes, there are a dozen reasons why he has lost mass, ie. time, movies, other things, a life, etc... but, i am a full time college student, and no matter how busy I get, i always have 3-4 free times a week to hit the weights for ~45 min. I guess the producers and Tom don't stress too much over his physique?

No excuse! This guy doesn't have a "real" job. His job is to look good for the camera and remember his lines. No kids to take to school.....no factory or office to report to......personal trainers, diet???? That's his life. He's "Superman" for cryin' out loud. The producers need to stay in his head.

celldog

10-22-2005, 02:46 AM

You have to have at least 300 posts before you can select a custom avatar....

You're kidding...riight?

celldog

10-22-2005, 02:47 AM

you wonder why? let's see, The Fog, Cheaper by the Dozen 2.. and something called a life?

No excuse......

spider-neil

10-22-2005, 06:53 AM

No excuse......

whoa tough crowd. it didn't help tom that arthur curry was build like a brick s*** house. next to that guy Lou Ferrigno would have looked like a wimp

The Incredible Hulk

10-22-2005, 09:56 AM

No excuse! This guy doesn't have a "real" job. His job is to look good for the camera and remember his lines. No kids to take to school.....no factory or office to report to......personal trainers, diet???? That's his life. He's "Superman" for cryin' out loud. The producers need to stay in his head.

you do realize that filming the TV show takes about 14 hours a day 6 days a week, sometimes longer, dont you?

That being said, he's still bigger than the alleged Superman in the new movie, he just doesnt have the luxury of wearing a muscle suit.

avidreader

10-22-2005, 10:03 AM

And check out the episode Mortal where he and Lana sit down on the couch to have a smooch. I dont know what those muscles are called, from the mid-back to the shoulders, he is huge. A couple of weeks of pumping iron and he would have alot of definition.

Do you think if he didnt look any good that they would still have him running around shirtless all the time.

I dont care for the way Alan Ritchson is so ripped, very unnatural looking.

Tom Welling is far superior in my eye.

Serene

10-22-2005, 10:46 AM

Do you think if he didnt look any good that they would still have him running around shirtless all the time.

Speaking of "running.." He looked pretty darn good running along that dock before he dived in to save Lois. I'll have to see if I can find that clip..

Dr.Dark

10-22-2005, 10:48 AM

avidreader

10-22-2005, 10:51 AM

He definitely has that :supes: look.

Without a doubt. When he is wearing shirts, his shoulders and upper arms have got Superman screaming all over them. Couple that with his small waste and long slim legs. :up:

avidreader

10-22-2005, 10:52 AM

Speaking of "running.." He looked pretty darn good running along that dock before he dived in to save Lois. I'll have to see if I can find that clip..

Yeah and if there was any so called "flab" we would have seen it then.

Gosh, I wish my flab looked that good.:)

KikiDee

10-22-2005, 12:20 PM

When we first saw still pics of Tom in aqua, I just thought he lost some definition. But aftering seeing his shirtless body in motion, he has just lost so much muscle mass.

And yes, there are a dozen reasons why he has lost mass, ie. time, movies, other things, a life, etc... but, i am a full time college student, and no matter how busy I get, i always have 3-4 free times a week to hit the weights for ~45 min. I guess the producers and Tom don't stress too much over his physique?

I think he likes fast food too though. Your body changes as you age and you have to change things like diet and exercise to compensate. He does have a dog and a wife to tend to so I'd think there are a lot of priorities pulling at him besides the gym. Give the guy a break.

Oh and I remember that full time college student stuff hmmm not much comparison to a full work day and a family life.

BeserkerHilf

10-22-2005, 12:26 PM

The Incredible Hulk

10-22-2005, 01:23 PM

did any else get a good laugh out of Fine's line:

"The greatest computer on earth...[points to HIS head]...is right up here; it's the human brain"

just thought that was a little amusing since he is super-computer.

yeah I liked that one, the subtle stuff like that with Marsters delivery was great. :up: Everyone complains when the references are too overt like a lot of the ones AC was making but then you have Fine do a great one like that, and hardly anyone catches it or talks about it.... Go figure :confused:

BaK

10-22-2005, 01:32 PM

"The greatest computer on earth...[points to HIS head]...is right up here; it's the human brain"
just thought that was a little amusing since he is super-computer.
I don't know of any super-computers that can walk..
So far, they play chess, (very good), and provide teraflops for tsunami, or galaxies collision simulations/analysis..
They can't even make a tea..

triplet

10-22-2005, 01:39 PM

You're kidding...riight?

No, I'm not kidding. 300 posts is what you need before you can have an avatar.

It's been awhile since I've been at 300 posts, but I believe I'm remembering that correctly.

triplet

10-22-2005, 01:43 PM

AgentPat

10-22-2005, 01:49 PM

That being said, he's still bigger than the alleged Superman in the new movie, he just doesn't have the luxury of wearing a muscle suit.I'm glad *somebody* said this 'cause I've been biting my lip for days.

And check out the episode Mortal where he and Lana sit down on the couch to have a smooch. I dont know what those muscles are called, from the mid-back to the shoulders, he is huge. A couple of weeks of pumping iron and he would have a lot of definition.This is very true. It's actually what bodybuilders do. They're eating machines up until a few weeks before competition. Then they "diet" (I use that term loosely) and ramp up the cardio to strip any fat that might hide muscle definition. The fat is needed during regular training as a fuel source. You have less energy if you stay ripped all the time and consequently can't work out as hard as you normally would, nor as long.

Knowing this, and knowing how easy it is to strip the fat when necessary, it makes me wonder if there might be something else going on here in preparation for the season finale. :p

Do you think if he didn't look any good that they would still have him running around shirtless all the time.Indeed! Not on THIS show, anyway.

I feel the blue in my face coming back as I reiterate into the ether, Welling hasn't changed *that* much over the last five or so years. Overall, he's put on more mass in the form of both muscle and fat, and goes through various periods of looking smaller and more cut, to bigger and less defined. It's natural for somebody whose schedule changes more often than his wardrobe. But the fact of the matter is, he's still a HUGE guy. It's the FIRST thing people say - both coworkers and fans - who have had the pleasure of meeting him or working with him.

Folks have been looking at that set shot of Welling and Kreuk. Kreuk is closer to the camera and standing on an apple box. At 6'4", Welling is a full foot taller than Kreuk (who btw, is *average* height for an adult woman according to research conducted by the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/ad/ad347.pdf) of average height and weights of adults in the US between 1960-2002.)

Put Welling in a frame by himself and he looks like an average, well-built guy. Put him next to the averaged size person however (5'4" for a woman, 5'9 1/2" for a man) and he IS huge. Look at the size of his hands alone...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/mortal4.jpg

Has he lost a little definition? Yeah. But he's STILL a house. That hasn't changed. And as I've already pointed out, it wouldn't take him long - maybe a month - to strip back the definition again.

I dont care for the way Alan Ritchson is so ripped, very unnatural looking.I think in terms of image, he was well cast. He fit Aquaman to a glove. But in terms of overall appeal, the face is just as important (to me) as the body, and that's where he loses points. Does he look like a young Aquaman? Yes. Do I find him handsome? Mmm... not so much. LOL

Tom Welling is far superior in my eye.You're preachin' to the choir, hon. :D

The Incredible Hulk

10-22-2005, 01:52 PM

I don't know of any super-computers that can walk..
So far, they play chess, (very good), and provide teraflops for tsunami, or galaxies collision simulations/analysis..
They can't even make a tea..

umm this is a Kryptonian supercompuer we're talking about here

triplet

10-22-2005, 01:54 PM

umm this is a Kryptonian supercompuer we're talking about here

Marsters was amazing in that first scene.... He gave that lecture so many layers.

He's perfect as Brainiac.

avidreader

10-22-2005, 01:58 PM

Knowing this, and knowing how easy it is to strip the fat when necessary, it makes me wonder if there might be something else going on here in preparation for the season finale. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

You know I've been thinking something along these lines myself. :) We shall wait and see.

avidreader

10-22-2005, 01:59 PM

Marsters was amazing in that first scene.... He gave that lecture so many layers.

He's perfect as Brainiac.

Wasnt he brilliant. :up:

BaK

10-22-2005, 02:08 PM

umm this is a Kryptonian supercompuer we're talking about here
well, you are right, if the evolution in the Kryptonian ''information era''
followed the same ''lingo path'' as on earth..
I don't think they even had the word ''superman'' ;)

The first sentence of that post had "..earth.." mentioned - so super-computer was in that ''context''..
anyway, stop ruining my jokes.. :p

user123456789

10-22-2005, 02:11 PM

I think he likes fast food too though. Your body changes as you age and you have to change things like diet and exercise to compensate. He does have a dog and a wife to tend to so I'd think there are a lot of priorities pulling at him besides the gym. Give the guy a break.

Oh and I remember that full time college student stuff hmmm not much comparison to a full work day and a family life.

That's all subjective, which is why i gave both perspectives, not just mine. Some colleges are harder than others, and even then, it is subjective to each student on what 'hard' really is.

user123456789

10-22-2005, 02:15 PM

I'm glad *somebody* said this 'cause I've been biting my lip for days.

This is very true. It's actually what bodybuilders do. They're eating machines up until a few weeks before competition. Then they "diet" (I use that term loosely) and ramp up the cardio to strip any fat that might hide muscle definition. The fat is needed during regular training as a fuel source. You have less energy if you stay ripped all the time and consequently can't work out as hard as you normally would, nor as long.

Knowing this, and knowing how easy it is to strip the fat when necessary, it makes me wonder if there might be something else going on here in preparation for the season finale. :p

Indeed! Not on THIS show, anyway.

I feel the blue in my face coming back as I reiterate into the ether, Welling hasn't changed *that* much over the last five or so years. Overall, he's put on more mass in the form of both muscle and fat, and goes through various periods of looking smaller and more cut, to bigger and less defined. It's natural for somebody whose schedule changes more often than his wardrobe. But the fact of the matter is, he's still a HUGE guy. It's the FIRST thing people say - both coworkers and fans - who have had the pleasure of meeting him or working with him.

Folks have been looking at that set shot of Welling and Kreuk. Kreuk is closer to the camera and standing on an apple box. At 6'4", Welling is a full foot taller than Kreuk (who btw, is *average* height for an adult woman according to research conducted by the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/ad/ad347.pdf) of average height and weights of adults in the US between 1960-2002.)

Put Welling in a frame by himself and he looks like an average, well-built guy. Put him next to the averaged size person however (5'4" for a woman, 5'9 1/2" for a man) and he IS huge. Look at the size of his hands alone...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/mortal4.jpg

Has he lost a little definition? Yeah. But he's STILL a house. That hasn't changed. And as I've already pointed out, it wouldn't take him long - maybe a month - to strip back the definition again.

I think in terms of image, he was well cast. He fit Aquaman to a glove. But in terms of overall appeal, the face is just as important (to me) as the body, and that's where he loses points. Does he look like a young Aquaman? Yes. Do I find him handsome? Mmm... not so much. LOL

You're preachin' to the choir, hon. :D

Although some of your comments are subjective, I am glad someone here can take the time to be unbiased and write a well thought out post, that states both sides of each argument, and finally states your opinion.

Thank you.

The Batman

10-22-2005, 02:29 PM

Pickle-El

10-22-2005, 03:06 PM

you do realize that filming the TV show takes about 14 hours a day 6 days a week, sometimes longer, dont you?

That being said, he's still bigger than the alleged Superman in the new movie, he just doesnt have the luxury of wearing a muscle suit.

awwwwwwww....... :(

Welling HAS lost a lot from the looks of S3 and 4, there's no way he's equally as cut or big....

ps, from the looks of 'Aqua', he'd need the benefit of neoprone at Smallville's conclusion...:o

Sauron

10-22-2005, 03:13 PM

I liked that Aquaman was kind of wearing his orange and green costume at the end, the shirt and shorts gave it that appearance, it's cool.

BaK

10-22-2005, 03:48 PM

Aquaman was another great example how good these guys are in giving life to a comics character for which I do not really care all that much in dc universe, as I supose many don't, and turn it into a great presence - ''keepin' it real'' kinda magic..
:)

muscaremy

10-22-2005, 03:50 PM

yeah I liked that one, the subtle stuff like that with Marsters delivery was great. :up: Everyone complains when the references are too overt like a lot of the ones AC was making but then you have Fine do a great one like that, and hardly anyone catches it or talks about it.... Go figure :confused:

wtf..... i mentioned that line twice and got no love....... from anyone..... what is this hate on the musc thread

KikiDee

10-22-2005, 04:04 PM

That's all subjective, which is why i gave both perspectives, not just mine. Some colleges are harder than others, and even then, it is subjective to each student on what 'hard' really is.

Hmmm. I'm not exactly sure what kind of response to give to this because you obviously think noone else on the boards puts any thought into their posts. Yes, some colleges and courses of study are harder. Some students are more serious and studious and tend to work harder. Some people have to work as well as attend school. Gee, I could go on and on, but that's really not the topic of discussion.

You're problem with Tom is that he's not as cut or defined as his guest stars. He's already said in interviews that he doesn't have much time to work out and I have a feeling he's a guy who actually tries to spend what little free time he has enjoying life. At least, I would hope so.

I'm glad that you take time for yourself. I think it's wonderful that you want to be healthy and look good. It's a TV show and if they don't feel Tom is supermanly enough you'll notice a difference in the rest of the season. They will make sure he has the time he needs and the trainers. I personally would like to think that some of those not-so-thoughtful posters have the right idea. They're building him up to be something to remember. He's not Superman yet.

Eklypze

10-22-2005, 04:38 PM

what all happened in the scenes with Brainac? I got home a little late and just caught the end of the scene with him and Clark where they look like they were on a college campus. Thanx for the info guys.

GLfan

10-22-2005, 04:45 PM

It was an alright episode. The guy who played Aquaman was a bit weak, and AC was too surfer like. I also wished they delved a bit more into AC's history. Like the Flash ep, they didnt delve much into his origin, which is kinda disappointing. Lex becoming more vicious was nice to see, though
Maybe we'll see more of him in future episodes and I think he did well enough to possibly warrant his own series which would be interesting. Then they could go into his orgin.

The Incredible Hulk

10-22-2005, 04:59 PM

awwwwwwww....... :(

Welling HAS lost a lot from the looks of S3 and 4, there's no way he's equally as cut or big....

ps, from the looks of 'Aqua', he'd need the benefit of neoprone at Smallville's conclusion...:o

that's "Neoprene" smart guy, and I agree he doesnt look as big as he did last season. But he hardly looks small or "flabby", and if how he looked in "Spell" is any indication of his mass potential, than you'd be sorely mistaken....

triplet

10-22-2005, 05:48 PM

Find my review here....

http://www.kryptonsite.com/aquareview.htm

Pickle-El

10-22-2005, 06:23 PM

that's "Neoprene" smart guy, and I agree he doesnt look as big as he did last season. But he hardly looks small or "flabby", and if how he looked in "Spell" is any indication of his mass potential, than you'd be sorely mistaken....

Big. Baby.

avidreader

10-22-2005, 06:33 PM

Find my review here....

http://www.kryptonsite.com/aquareview.htm

Thorough as usual, but for the life of me I cannot remember Clark/Lois ever making inuendos about their future life together. You're not the only one that I've seen say this. Can you enlighten me?

triplet

10-22-2005, 07:08 PM

Thorough as usual, but for the life of me I cannot remember Clark/Lois ever making inuendos about their future life together. You're not the only one that I've seen say this. Can you enlighten me?

She says she likes Arthur because he wants to save the world. That was actually a Superman reference.

In the comics she falls in love with Superman first before she realizes that he's really Clark in part just because of he's always saving people. I think she'll probably know Clark is Superman in the Smallville continuity should they ever go that far, but I guess we'll see.

I thought it interesting that Clark was surprised she thought that. I think he saw something new in her there...

Also, at the end she tells Clark that she wants to could find someone special like Arthur again someday and he says he can guarentee that she will.

Yeah, she will. When she meets and falls in love with Superman... Funny how he thought he could guarentee that.

I think there were others in the episode but I can't think of them right now...

Billy Batson

10-22-2005, 07:16 PM

HE'S THE KING FISH

http://www.nypost.com/photos/ent102005045.jpg

By DON KAPLAN

October 20, 2005 -- RALLY your undersea friends! Aquaman, the world's most misunderstood superhero, is suddenly a big fish in Hollywood.

As the King of Atlantis, Aquaman's superpowers add up to having the ability to talk to marine life, breath underwater, swim really fast and wear a scaly orange and green costume.

Tonight, he pays a visit to young Clark Kent on the WB's "Smallville" and has been at the heart of this season's edition of HBO's "Entourage." Also, like most of the DC come book characters, he is slated to be retooled over the next year as part of an ongoing story called "Infinite Crisis."

Along the way, the character is getting more, uh, depth.

"We like to call him the much maligned Aquaman," "Smallville" creator Alfred Gough told The Post yesterday. "He always seems to get a bad rap for some reason."

When Aquaman initially came up as a possible guest star at the "Smallville" writers meeting, "at first we laughed," Gough says. But the show's producers figured out a way to work Aquaman into the series in order to teach Clark Kent an important life lesson and set the stage for their later working relationship as members of the Justice League - a team of DC's most popular superheroes, chronicled in comic books for decades and more recently on the Cartoon Network show.

On "Smallville," Aquaman is a marine biology student and environmental activist from the University of Miami (the school's colors are, ahem, orange and green), who travels to Kansas to deal with Lex Luthor, who is testing a new sonar weapon in a lake near Smallville.

"The message he has for Clark Kent is that he should think globally, not locally," Gough says. "He shows Clark that he needs to wake up and realize that there's a bigger world out there than just Smallville and Metropolis and you have to use your powers to stop people from doing bad things."

"Entourage" - a show about a fictional young movie star named Vincent Chase and his friends - has Chase playing the watery hero in what is supposed to a big budget "Aquaman" film by "Titanic" moviemaker James Cameron.

For a long time, Aquaman as a superhero has been seen as kind of a joke among Hollywood insiders and many comic fanatics, which is likely the reason why the comedy writers behind "Entourage" chose him as the centerpiece of the show this season.

Aquaman first appeared in DC's "More Fun Comics" in 1941, and has had several variations on his origin story. One from the 1960s tells of how his father was a lighthouse keeper and his mother was a mermaid.

A more complex and more widely accepted story tells of Aquaman being born as the crown prince of Atlantis who was abandoned by his parents because of his blond hair, which was seen by his people as a curse. At first he was raised by a dolphin and then by a lighthouse keeper who gave him his own name, Arthur Curry.

Most casual viewers, however, remember Aquaman from the 1970s cartoon "Superfriends," in which he rode around on a seahorse, called whales with telepathy and basically stood around, useless, on dry land.

But DC revamped the character later, making him a Conan-esque hero who commanded an army and sported a hook for a hand. That was the makeover used by Cartoon Network's "Justice League," which made him less a hero than a loose cannon with a bad attitude.

Aquaman's sudden and unlikely prominence has not gone unnoticed.

"Yes, I've noticed the sudden resurgence," says Jay Franco, a die-hard comic book fan and editor for the Science Fiction Book Club, a division of the Book of the Month Club. "I'm not sure what is on the horizon for this superhero from the sea, but he is definitely worth keeping an eye on."

The Caped Knight

10-22-2005, 07:19 PM

Find my review here....

http://www.kryptonsite.com/aquareview.htm

Triplet, I agree with most of the stuff /points from your review , exsept Erica's Preformance as Lois Lane & The Forshadowing of Lois & Clark (Future romance).

I thought Erica preformance Lois Lane was good and entertaining as usually.

And The Lois & Clark forshadowing was well done. It shows Clark's feelings for Lois as just a friend is changing, he starting to fall for Lois.

triplet

10-22-2005, 07:51 PM

Meh... I thought her lack of chemistry with Ritchson was her biggest problem and that's not really her fault.

I think either you have chemistry with another as an actor or you don't. It's not something you can act your way out of.

I just think the foreshadowing is getting old. We know they're soul mates and that they're destined to be together, but do we need to be reminded of that every stinking week?

AgentPat

10-22-2005, 08:10 PM

And The Lois & Clark foreshadowing was well done. It shows Clark's feelings for Lois as just a friend is changing, he starting to fall for Lois.I have to agree. There's something going on there. Even though Clark wants to "smother Lois with a pillow" (LOL!!!), *something* is starting to spark. It's extremely low key, but that end dialog in Aqua was quite revealing, and I really, really liked it. They can hit me over the head with all the foreshadowing they want; it's a HUGE part of my enjoyment of the show. Clark IS Superman, even if people don't call him that yet. Being reminded of his future gives me a big warm and fuzzy each and every episode. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/love.gif

The Caped Knight

10-22-2005, 08:49 PM

I just think the foreshadowing is getting old. We know they're soul mates and that they're destined to be together, but do we need to be reminded of that every stinking week?

I prefer the forshadowing alot more than the Clana crap I've had to watch for the past fricking four years.

Super_Ludacris

10-22-2005, 08:51 PM

I prefer the forshadowing alot more than the Clana crap I've had to watch for the past fricking four years.

with pointless Clois crap :confused:

triplet

10-22-2005, 08:59 PM

I have to agree. There's something going on there. Even though Clark wants to "smother Lois with a pillow" (LOL!!!), *something* is starting to spark. It's extremely low key, but that end dialog in Aqua was quite revealing, and I really, really liked it. They can hit me over the head with all the foreshadowing they want; it's a HUGE part of my enjoyment of the show. Clark IS Superman, even if people don't call him that yet. Being reminded of his future gives me a big warm and fuzzy each and every episode. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/love.gif

While I appreciate your viewpoint, I think they need to use a lighter touch.

The references and allusions can be fun, I loved the Entourage and JLA references and some of the others from the episode, but they're sometimes laid on too thickly...

GL1

10-22-2005, 09:13 PM

Honestly, I think AC was pretty well done... the "bro" thing felt a BIT pushed, but in the end it made sense... I wanted a really good song like at the end of "Run" but it didn't happen... instead I got "Junior Lifeguard Association" which made me pause, talked a screaming lap around the room and hear it again before I could go on...

Also, the action in the climax was sort of skipped over and I didn't like that, I wanted to see something, but I suppose Lex's POV was good storywise... and, imho, they overdid the orange and green, they could've kept that a bit more downkey, but I suppose clark is always in his colors, so go figure...

The end scene... the last line it didn't sit quite welll with me... it was good foreshadowing, but... "I promise you'll find someone even more special" ???? Who says that? Who can promise that? are you serious? It just sounded so rediculous to me... I did like the pose and the zoom out... and Lois' body is smokin...

AgentPat

10-22-2005, 09:20 PM

While I appreciate your viewpoint, I think they need to use a lighter touch.S'kay. Dif'rent strokes for dif'rent folks. I'm cool with that. :)

The references and allusions can be fun, I loved the Entourage and JLA references and some of the others from the episode, but they're sometimes laid on too thickly...It's interesting 'cause UseNet posters, many of whom aren't hardcore Superman fans, miss a lot of the things we see as being sledgehammer overt. If looked at from the POV that most viewers don't know the mythos as well as we do, it can be argued that that kind of heavy handedness is necessary for the average viewer. I sometimes find myself explaining the things that have me off the couch cheering to my husband 'cause he isn't a Superman fan per se. I gauge a lot of what might be considered "general audience" appreciation off of what HE catches and doesn't. For example, he didn't even recognize Marsters from his brief appearance in Arrival. If I hadn't said THAT's the guy who came out of the ship, hubby would still be thinking Fine was just one of Clark's college professors.

triplet

10-22-2005, 10:16 PM

S'kay. Dif'rent strokes for dif'rent folks. I'm cool with that. :)

It's interesting 'cause UseNet posters, many of whom aren't hardcore Superman fans, miss a lot of the things we see as being sledgehammer overt. If looked at from the POV that most viewers don't know the mythos as well as we do, it can be argued that that kind of heavy handedness is necessary for the average viewer. I sometimes find myself explaining the things that have me off the couch cheering to my husband 'cause he isn't a Superman fan per se. I gauge a lot of what might be considered "general audience" appreciation off of what HE catches and doesn't. For example, he didn't even recognize Marsters from his brief appearance in Arrival. If I hadn't said THAT's the guy who came out of the ship, hubby would still be thinking Fine was just one of Clark's college professors.

You have a point... The sledge hammers probably need to come out for most people to get those references.

I guess it's probably not going to change, then is it?

Oh, well.

I'll try not to groan too loudly.. ;) :D

mellyM

10-22-2005, 10:26 PM

While I appreciate your viewpoint, I think they need to use a lighter touch.

The references and allusions can be fun, I loved the Entourage and JLA references and some of the others from the episode, but they're sometimes laid on too thickly...
That was the first foreshadowing that wasn't said as a joke, it was actually a very sweet scene, and made me really see him as the people they'll become one day, it was a nice touch, if not subtle, but its hard to be subtle when its a show about an iconic comic book hero.

The Incredible Hulk

10-22-2005, 10:59 PM

Big. Baby.

Ummm OK? :confused:

triplet

10-22-2005, 11:07 PM

That was the first foreshadowing that wasn't said as a joke, it was actually a very sweet scene, and made me really see him as the people they'll become one day, it was a nice touch, if not subtle, but its hard to be subtle when its a show about an iconic comic book hero.

Well, I still thought it looked more awkward than sweet to me, but I think I'm outnumbered in thinking that...

:shrug:

KikiDee

10-22-2005, 11:15 PM

Well, I still thought it looked more awkward than sweet to me, but I think I'm outnumbered in thinking that...

:shrug:

It's okay. You have a different perspective......I didn't even get to see the scene. My network went black at that moment. I could hear it, but couldn't see it. :(

So what I'm saying is I can't give an opinion either way. You do see things from a former actors perspective though so maybe that's why it felt awkward to you.

RKromwell

10-22-2005, 11:51 PM

hehe, I missed the last five minutes, my family came home from roller skating and I could not hear a thing.

LadyVader

10-23-2005, 12:59 AM

The guy that played Aquaman had more chin then Jay Leno! :)

I don't think we should jump the gun about Clark and Lois just yet. He cares about her just like he would care about Pete or Chloe.
What I totally hatye about this show is that... all of the sudden, these kids go to collegge! No sats, no acceptance letters, no nothing basically! Instead of just showing up in high school, now they're just showing up in collegge. I understand this isn't a show about collegge life, but come on now... just one stinking drop of realism in this giant epic... something... definetly wouldn't hurt.

Archangel08

10-23-2005, 02:32 AM

i think aquaman had his hands a little low on lois when he was doing cpr on her...he was only on her lower boob...i think it's supposed to be higher up (no perverted jokes intended)

haha but other than that, it was a cool episode...his surfer talk kinda bugged me...but o well, we need more lana =P

punishermax

10-23-2005, 04:05 AM

I just realized, someone else may have, but the first ep of the season still took place on the day/day after graduation, so from the first ep to this one they started college. They're missing three months in there, I know they do when the season wraps, but how many times has it happened in season. I can't think of any shows that have.

darkzombiemutt

10-23-2005, 05:26 AM

I think there was supposed to be a larger portion of time when Clark was Mortal then just 2 episodes worth of time.

AgentPat

10-23-2005, 09:02 AM

What I totally hate about this show is that... all of the sudden, these kids go to college! No sats, no acceptance letters, no nothing basically! Instead of just showing up in high school, now they're just showing up in college. I understand this isn't a show about college life, but come on now... just one stinking drop of realism in this giant epic... something... definitely wouldn't hurt.:confused:

They spent the better part of last season talking about college. Various episode dealt in depth with graduating high school, GPAs and football scholarships, whether or not they were going to live on campus, which colleges they were interested in, AND of course the application process. Some of the dialog wasn't even necessary to the main plots of the episodes, but it was done to gear up the audience for the 5th season.

I just realized, someone else may have, but the first ep of the season still took place on the day/day after graduation, so from the first ep to this one they started college. They're missing three months in there, I know they do when the season wraps, but how many times has it happened in season. I can't think of any shows that have.Arrival took place immediately after the events of Commencement (May). It was established in the dialog that Mortal was WEEKS later (June sometime?) Hidden was weeks after that since the Kent house was mostly repaired (July/August?) And Aqua takes place just as they're starting college (August/Sept.)

I think there was supposed to be a larger portion of time when Clark was Mortal then just 2 episodes worth of time.In show time, he was human for the better part of the summer. Three months, perhaps? I wouldn't have wanted them to stretch it out more than that. I know Clark's a hero with or without superpowers, but three months is long enough for him to learn that hammers are blunt objects, bed posts fit nicely between toes, and bullets move re-heeeely fast. I'm thinking that particular learning process had served its purpose in the greater scheme of his education. :D

The Incredible Hulk

10-23-2005, 10:43 AM

:confused:

They spent the better part of last season talking about college. Various episode dealt in depth with graduating high school, GPAs and football scholarships, whether or not they were going to live on campus, which colleges they were interested in, AND of course the application process. Some of the dialog wasn't even necessary to the main plots of the episodes, but it was done to gear up the audience for the 5th season.

If I remember correctly all of the college stuff came up in Spell, Recruit, Forever, and Commencement.

avidreader

10-23-2005, 12:02 PM

She says she likes Arthur because he wants to save the world. That was actually a Superman reference.

In the comics she falls in love with Superman first before she realizes that he's really Clark in part just because of he's always saving people. I think she'll probably know Clark is Superman in the Smallville continuity should they ever go that far, but I guess we'll see.

I thought it interesting that Clark was surprised she thought that. I think he saw something new in her there...

Also, at the end she tells Clark that she wants to could find someone special like Arthur again someday and he says he can guarentee that she will.

Yeah, she will. When she meets and falls in love with Superman... Funny how he thought he could guarentee that.

I think there were others in the episode but I can't think of them right now...

Within that episode there were a couple, yes I agree, but not alot since her time on Smallville. Which I guess is what I thought you meant.

I really liked that last scene. I'm a big Clana fan but I have been waiting for them to throw in some more lines to suggest that Clark and Lois are going to have a future together.

AgentPat

10-23-2005, 01:12 PM

If I remember correctly all of the college stuff came up in Spell, Recruit, Forever, and Commencement.Yeah, those were the ones that were pretty focused on the road to college, but there were references in other episodes too. For example, Clark talks about going to the University of Miami at the beginning of Blank, and Lana and Jason argue over dorms in Pariah (I *think* it was Pariah.) I'm just saying the transition from high school to college wasn't something that was glossed over by the writers. At least three episodes in the fourth season had plots that totally revolved around leaving high school and entering college, and a few other eps reminded viewers of that eventual goal through the dialog.

avidreader

10-23-2005, 01:16 PM

I dont think anyone mentioned Sacred, at the very beginning, when Martha throws a pile of College Prospectuses (does that word have a plural :rolleyes: ) on the table and tells him he has to make some decisions. Then at the end we see him trying to type up his application.

The Caped Knight

10-23-2005, 01:23 PM

LordSimen

10-23-2005, 02:09 PM

After this episode and the Flash episode, I can't wait for them to do a young Bruce Wayne episode. XP

The Caped Knight

10-23-2005, 02:21 PM

After this episode and the Flash episode, I can't wait for them to do a young Bruce Wayne episode. XP

That's every fans Dream. I for one would want Bale as young Bruce Wayne . But Al & Miles said Bruce Wayne isn't coming to smallville . (which sucks because he and SUPERMAN are good friends.) In fact Bruce was the first Superhero Clark met in the comics (post crisis) when he first became SUPERMAN .

The Sage

10-23-2005, 04:31 PM

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The Sage

10-23-2005, 04:31 PM

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avidreader

10-23-2005, 04:37 PM

Thanks Sage. Are you able to do a cap of Lois & Clark in the loft at the end. :) Please.

The Sage

10-23-2005, 04:49 PM

Thanks Sage. Are you able to do a cap of Lois & Clark in the loft at the end. :) Please.
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avidreader

10-23-2005, 04:59 PM

Thanks Sage, I really appreciate that. I have a feeling that that scene is going to be a memorable one in Smallville's history.

The Caped Knight

10-23-2005, 04:59 PM

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Thanks Sage . :up: :up: :supes:

Brainiac 8

10-23-2005, 05:31 PM

triplet

10-23-2005, 05:42 PM

Great Review Triplet! I didn't quite agree about A.C. though, I thought that with what they gave him, he did quite well. I'm not sure it was totally his fault that some of his scenes didn't quite work.

Enjoyed reading it anyways.:up:

I thought he did fine, well.. Considering. Everyone seems to think I was being hard on him...

Yeah, his performance was uneven but I thought I'd made it clear most of his problems were due to inexperience. I thought he did well in several scenes, especially in ones where he was in scenes with Michael and Tom...

Brainiac 8

10-23-2005, 05:49 PM

I thought he did fine, well.. Considering. Everyone seems to think I was being hard on him...

Yeah, his performance was uneven but I thought I'd made it clear most of his problems were due to inexperience. I thought he did well in several scenes, especially in ones where he was in scenes with Michael and Tom...

Other than that I agreed with what you said about the episode. Evil Lex in particular, MR consistently shows why he is one of the best actors they have for the show. I keep waiting for him to do something particularly evil and start MUWAHAHAHAHing. Or touch the tips of his fingers and go "EEXXIILLLENTTT", kind of like Mr. Burns.

Did you notice the mountains in Kansas in the episode. It made me laugh a little. I always enjoy the way you look at the episodes though Triplet. So keep it up!:up:

The Incredible Hulk

10-23-2005, 08:58 PM

Yeah, those were the ones that were pretty focused on the road to college, but there were references in other episodes too. For example, Clark talks about going to the University of Miami at the beginning of Blank, and Lana and Jason argue over dorms in Pariah (I *think* it was Pariah.) I'm just saying the transition from high school to college wasn't something that was glossed over by the writers. At least three episodes in the fourth season had plots that totally revolved around leaving high school and entering college, and a few other eps reminded viewers of that eventual goal through the dialog.

yeah, call me crazy but I didnt want to see Clark taking his SAT Prep course... :D

triplet

10-23-2005, 09:14 PM

yeah, call me crazy but I didnt want to see Clark taking his SAT Prep course... :D

Yeah, and taking those SAT practice tests would have made for compelling TV... ;) :p

zanos

10-23-2005, 10:07 PM

What the heck is Lana wearing in that picture. Thats one weird ass swimsuit... I guess she got tired of the 2 piece.

It's not a swimsuit, it's a dress. Chloe is wearing one as well. It's for the girl who wants to go to the beach but doesn't want to reveal anything :)

mellyM

10-23-2005, 10:12 PM

this is a great site for screencaps, if anyone needs any: http://www.oxoniensis-art.net/index2.htm

The Caped Knight

10-23-2005, 10:21 PM

this is a great site for screencaps, if anyone needs any: http://www.oxoniensis-art.net/index2.htm

Indeed it is.

Serene

10-23-2005, 11:07 PM

It's not a swimsuit, it's a dress. Chloe is wearing one as well. It's for the girl who wants to go to the beach but doesn't want to reveal anything :)

They both have swimsuits on with cover-ups over them. Lana's is one that ties around the hips.

Serene

10-23-2005, 11:12 PM

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9208/vlcsnap37332311tx.jpg
I'm just going to have to snag this one.. I have a major weakness for Wet Clark..
I think it needs to filed in the Drooling thread too.

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8572/vlcsnap37333207za.jpg
*Cue theme from Jaws* :D

Thanks, Sage. :up:

zanos

10-23-2005, 11:59 PM

They both have swimsuits on with cover-ups over them. Lana's is one that ties around the hips.

Nope it was a dress. Same as Chloes.

Serene

10-24-2005, 12:23 AM

Nope it was a dress. Same as Chloes.

Have you seen many beach cover-ups?

This is from DTKK (www.devotedtokristinkreuck.com) and big.. so I'll just post a link.
You can see the wrap tied about KK's hips in this one:
http://www.devotedtokristinkreuk.com/images/stills/kk-aqua-bts-01.jpg

And this shows Chloe with a cover-up over her bathing suit.
http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/temp/504-28.jpg
from DTS (www.devotedtosmallville.com)

Why would they wear "dresses" to a beach anyway?

triplet

10-24-2005, 12:34 AM

Nope it was a dress. Same as Chloes.

Nope. They're cover ups.

Listen to the girls when it comes to this....

She's wearing a one-piece haltar top bathing suit but has a cover up tied around her hips...

The cover up is that black and white, chiffon ruffled multi-layered skirt that covers up where her bathing suit ends.

zanos

10-24-2005, 12:38 AM

Cover up, dress, same thing. If Chloe was wearing underwear underneath it'd be called a dress. As for KK I just go by what I see in the episode. The pic you provided does show a much clearer image of what she is wearing but watching the episode it is indistinguishable and simply left up to the imagination. Eithe she looks like crap in it.

triplet

10-24-2005, 12:43 AM

Since when does a dress cover just your hips?

Chloe's might be mistaken for a dress, since it would be similar to a haltar strap dress, but it's not since you can see her bathing suit top underneath it.

But what mystifies me is why you're arguing semantics over the difference between a dress and a cover-up when you have no idea what a cover up even is....

rumpuso

10-24-2005, 05:26 AM

RakuMon

10-24-2005, 09:43 AM

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/301/vlcsnap26927050ii.jpg

Check out that pose for Clark!
Just imagine him in the sky instead of underwater...

avidreader

10-24-2005, 10:24 AM

Have you seen many beach cover-ups?

This is from DTKK (http://www.devotedtokristinkreuck.com/) and big.. so I'll just post a link.
You can see the wrap tied about KK's hips in this one:
http://www.devotedtokristinkreuk.com/images/stills/kk-aqua-bts-01.jpg

That's a great picture of our leading man. :up: :)

triplet

10-24-2005, 10:38 AM

Kryptonsite (http://www.kryptonsite.com/) has a poll up asking, "Would you watch an Aquaman spin-off series from Smallville?" Wonder if this is being given serious consideration since this episode did so well in the ratings. I'm not sure I'd actually watch it past the pilot if it ever came to be.

Personally, I'd rather see just a spin off of The Flash using Kyle Gallner but they've got a Flash movie in the works, I thought, so that may not happen.

But then again, they've got an Aquaman film in the works too.

mellyM

10-24-2005, 11:13 AM

I think the only other superhero I'd be remotely interested in, is Batman, and they have that covered with Batman Begins, but it would have been great to see a series based on that.

avidreader

10-24-2005, 11:39 AM

Whilst it would be good to see these guys, it would be hard to maintain them as a series. That's probably why movies work best.

mellyM

10-24-2005, 12:03 PM

Whilst it would be good to see these guys, it would be hard to maintain them as a series. That's probably why movies work best.
I agree, I don't know if other superheroes are as complex enough to warrant a series..I'm probably wrong of course, feel free to tell me if I am..I think Superman and Batman are expections.

AgentPat

10-24-2005, 12:18 PM

That's a great picture of our leading man. :up: :)Y'know, if Serene hadn't posted that, I probably never would have seen it. Are there any other shots of TW in the KK forums that haven't shown up where they should? :mad: :p

BTW, I just have to say it... that bathing suit they gave Kreuk looks HORRIBLE on her. What's up with that? She's a beautiful woman, and that... whatever it is... is just... gah!

avidreader

10-24-2005, 12:27 PM

Y'know, if Serene hadn't posted that, I probably never would have seen it. Are there any other shots of TW in the KK forums that haven't shown up where they should? :mad: :p

BTW, I just have to say it... that bathing suit they gave Kreuk looks HORRIBLE on her. What's up with that? She's a beautiful woman, and that... whatever it is... is just... gah!

James has some great behind the scenes shots on his site. Go there.

I didnt like Kristen's bathing suit much either, it was very conservative looking.

The Incredible Hulk

10-24-2005, 12:32 PM

Y'know, if Serene hadn't posted that, I probably never would have seen it. Are there any other shots of TW in the KK forums that haven't shown up where they should? :mad: :p

BTW, I just have to say it... that bathing suit they gave Kreuk looks HORRIBLE on her. What's up with that? She's a beautiful woman, and that... whatever it is... is just... gah!

wait a minute, you mean there was another female in that scene besides Lois?? :confused: ;)

AgentPat

10-24-2005, 01:11 PM

James has some great behind the scenes shots on his site. Go there.Huh? I thought he didn't do pictures anymore? :confused:

I didnt like Kristen's bathing suit much either, it was very conservative looking.It was awful. At least Chloe's reflected her character. Then again, maybe that's the whole idea? Maybe they WANT Lana to have that bland look?

wait a minute, you mean there was another female in that scene besides Lois?? :confused: ;)To be honest, I was looking at Lois most of the time myself. Well, when Clark and Aquadude wasn't in the frame, that is. If I were Kreuk or Mack, I'd be like WTF to the wardrobe guy. LOL

avidreader

10-24-2005, 01:23 PM

Huh? I thought he didn't do pictures anymore? :confused:

He said it was rare, but he thought he would share. :)

It was awful. At least Chloe's reflected her character. Then again, maybe that's the whole idea? Maybe they WANT Lana to have that bland look?

To be honest, I was looking at Lois most of the time myself. Well, when Clark and Aquadude wasn't in the frame, that is. If I were Kreuk or Mack, I'd be like WTF to the wardrobe guy. LOL

Maybe that was the whole idea, take the attention off Lana and Chloe, and have it all on Lois. ;)

musclesforsupes

10-24-2005, 01:35 PM

I thought run was better.

Gmanofsteel

10-24-2005, 01:41 PM

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9398/vlcsnap37342112ol.jpg
I loved that scene :up:

mellyM

10-24-2005, 03:30 PM

James has some great behind the scenes shots on his site. Go there.

I didnt like Kristen's bathing suit much either, it was very conservative looking.
I thought it was cute, and looked like something Lana would wear..she;s not Lois

triplet

10-24-2005, 03:32 PM

I thought it was cute, and looked like something Lana would wear..she's not Lois

I thought it was tasteful, but the wrap cover up didn't really go with the suit. I woulda busted the costume designer for that in my review, but it didn't really read in the episode.

It looks like something they made and didn't make well, to be honest.

avidreader

10-24-2005, 03:53 PM

I thought it was cute, and looked like something Lana would wear..she;s not Lois

Its just that they seem to have done a complete 180 on Lana's clothing. She was all pretty in pink, and now all we see her in are dark colours. I'd like to see her in some brighter tones, not necessarily pink, but something that really compliments her colouring. I think that's what I wasnt liking about the bathing suit, the dark monotone colouring.

BaK

10-24-2005, 04:10 PM

As usual, the whole panel is wrong.. :p

Lets see..

Earth revolves around the sun..
Nothing can look bad on KK..
That Aquadude sure can swim.. :D

rumpuso

10-24-2005, 04:14 PM

I guess I must face the fact that I am a dissenter. I actually thought Lana's bathing suit was very nice. And she looks adorable in most everything.

The Batman

10-24-2005, 04:15 PM

Does anyone realize that AC's water ball was a reference to the 1967 Aquaman cartoon?

avidreader

10-24-2005, 04:18 PM

I guess I must face the fact that I am a dissenter. I actually thought Lana's bathing suit was very nice. And she looks adorable in most everything.

She still looks adorable, I'd just like to see her in some happy colours. :)

triplet

10-24-2005, 04:41 PM

Its just that they seem to have done a complete 180 on Lana's clothing. She was all pretty in pink, and now all we see her in are dark colours. I'd like to see her in some brighter tones, not necessarily pink, but something that really compliments her colouring. I think that's what I wasnt liking about the bathing suit, the dark monotone colouring.

I think they made the switch in part because she hated wearing pink since it's like her least favorite color.

Actually, I think she looks beautiful in darker colors. I like that she's not wearing pink anymore. Maybe she could wear it now and then, but the amount of pink she'd wear was ridiculous.

No one, except for Mary Kay sales reps and 8 year old girls, would ever be wearing that much pink.

BaK

10-24-2005, 04:58 PM

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8572/vlcsnap37333207za.jpg

I liked this moment because:

- It gave the whole fight thing new light, and the good one..
- That smile was real an playfull..
- It had the joy of being a part of something bigger then just (super)boys being boys..
(ok, I may be overreading it a bit) :)
- No malice at all, but no boy scoutness too..
- Being a superhero can be fun - as seen in ''Run'' ;)

\S/JcDc\S/

10-24-2005, 05:28 PM

Kristin is such a cutie she looks great in pink :o

Super_Ludacris

10-24-2005, 05:31 PM

She is hot

Serene

10-24-2005, 06:25 PM

Y'know, if Serene hadn't posted that, I probably never would have seen it. Are there any other shots of TW in the KK forums that haven't shown up where they should? :mad: :p
Maybe a few more.. and bigger.
You need to get out more, Pat. :p

BTW, I just have to say it... that bathing suit they gave Kreuk looks HORRIBLE on her. What's up with that? She's a beautiful woman, and that... whatever it is... is just... gah!
It was pretty conservative, but I do suspect that it's intentionally so. Lana is not Lois. It takes a Nicodemus flower for her to start showing flesh.. and even then it's not hers! LOL..

I thought it was tasteful, but the wrap cover up didn't really go with the suit. I woulda busted the costume designer for that in my review, but it didn't really read in the episode.
Actually I think the wrap did go with the suit. It's hard to tell in the actual ep, but in the bigger BTS photos, you can see that the trim around the neckline matches the lighter colored ruffle along the bottom of the wrap.

I agree though.. they could have given her something conservative but a little more attractive. It was just kinda blah.

Its just that they seem to have done a complete 180 on Lana's clothing. She was all pretty in pink, and now all we see her in are dark colours.
Has anyone else noticed that Chloe is the new Pink Princess? She's worn pink in several of her recent scenes, including a really pretty cami in her last loft scene.

I prefer Lana in the darker, or jewel toned clothes. But that's just my personal preference. I think she's gorgeous enough and has nice enough coloring to wear just about any color.

The Sage

10-24-2005, 10:25 PM

Bwahahahaha....

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9398/vlcsnap37342112ol.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3121/untitled2cf.jpg

The Sage

10-24-2005, 10:30 PM

Hehehe...

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1561/aquahr1875hq.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7357/j020275bz.jpg

\S/JcDc\S/

10-24-2005, 10:32 PM

Sage rocks :cool:

The Sage

10-24-2005, 10:47 PM

Sage rocks :cool:
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2902/rattlethecages7xz.jpg

The Sage

10-25-2005, 06:28 PM

Bwahahahaha....

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9398/vlcsnap37342112ol.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3121/untitled2cf.jpg

For people who may have missed my award winning comparisons.:)

Metamorpho1977

10-25-2005, 06:55 PM

They said they will bring one more hero this season. My guess would be either Martian Man Hunter (desguised as human) or Oliver Queen (Green Arrow) since they don't have movies in development.
Though Green Lantern and Plastic Man (lol) may also be serious contenders since their movies are in development hell.
I would love to see an episode with Swamp Thing.

There have been hints at Green Arrow since season two or was it season 3 i can't remember, since it was a Queen Industries boat that saved Lex.

The Caped Knight

10-25-2005, 07:47 PM

Bwahahahaha....

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9398/vlcsnap37342112ol.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3121/untitled2cf.jpg

Hehehe...
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1561/aquahr1875hq.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7357/j020275bz.jpg

Great Comparisons Sage.

Got anymore ?

RakuMon

10-26-2005, 08:26 AM

Hey Sage, I brought this exact thing up last week!
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7011393&postcount=333
Did anyone happen to read "Justice" #2?
http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/4317_400x600.jpg
It's the bi-monthly series written and painted by Alex Ross.
Anyway, I thought it was interesting that this issue came out the same week "Aqua" aired. One reason is that the issue features the debut appearance of Braniac. Secondly, the reveal on the last page of the ish looks just like this scene from the show (just substitute Lex with Brainiac):
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/smallville2/aqua6.jpg
Anyway, you got a scan of the last splash page of Brainiac/Aquaman to compare with the Smallville shot of Lex/Arthur?

I thought it was more than a coincidence that the Justice issue shipped the same week as the Aquaman episode!

I also loved how the ep was yet another classic example of Aquaman getting captured and tied up and needing Supes to come to the rescue!!