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Spaceballs

01-18-2006, 08:00 PM

their 'reunion' is probably referring back to clarks last meeting with his dad; when he was a baby being put in the ship

The ONLY reason I can see why Jor El wanting to take his REAL Human form after all this time is so he can help Clark battle

Zod
Braniac
The Other 2 Kryptonians

NO WAY will Clark be able to handle those 4 by himself. It would be kinda cool if Jor El & Clark can put aside their differences & kick some Kryptonian butt. Why else would Jor El FINALLY want to take his real Human Form ?

user123456789

01-18-2006, 08:03 PM

The ONLY reason I can see why Jor El wanting to take his REAL Human form after all this time is so he can help Clark battle

Zod
Braniac
The Other 2 Kryptonians

NO WAY will Clark be able to handle those 4 by himself. It would be kinda cool if Jor El & Clark can put aside their differences & kick some Kryptonian butt. Why else would Jor El FINALLY want to take his real Human Form ?

jor-el is dead... how would he help clark other than teaching him to fully embrace his abilities?

Spaceballs

01-18-2006, 08:05 PM

jor-el is dead... how would he help clark other than teaching him to fully embrace his abilities?

Jor El was able to do it before (Season 5 Premiere) why all of a sudden take Human Form to train him ? Makes no sense & if you read the Scan we SEE the REAL Jor El & him & Clark gets REUNITED so hes techinically NOT dead if he can do that eh

user123456789

01-18-2006, 08:06 PM

Jor El was able to do it before (Season 5 Premiere) why all of a sudden take Human Form to train him ? Makes no sense & if you read the Scan we SEE the REAL Jor El & him & Clark gets REUNITED so hes techinically NOT dead if he can do that eh

uh... what?

when was jor-el in human form during Arival?

Spaceballs

01-18-2006, 08:08 PM

uh... what?

when was jor-el in human form during Arival?

Read what I said again. I said he was able to teach Clark abilities WITHOUT having to take Human Form. There has to be a GOOD reason why Jor El all of a sudden wants to take Human Form. I guess we will get a better idea in the Finale

user123456789

01-18-2006, 08:10 PM

Read what I said again. I said he was able to teach Clark abilities WITHOUT having to take Human Form. There has to be a GOOD reason why Jor El all of a sudden wants to take Human Form. I guess we will get a better idea in the Finale

ok i personally can't comprehend your posts.

this discussion is over for me..

JAX

01-18-2006, 11:17 PM

It'll be interesting to see what footage shows after tomorrows episode, and how much news comes out about reckoning later this week

JAX

01-19-2006, 01:02 PM

Wow. We need some news...

avidreader

01-19-2006, 01:09 PM

Wow. We need some news...

Jonathan's going to be the one to die in this episode.;)

I think Lana's car accident and subsequent death is the shocking death that they were advertising. She's just not gonna stay dead.

JAX

01-19-2006, 01:16 PM

Jonathan's going to be the one to die in this episode.;)

I think Lana's car accident and subsequent death is the shocking death that they were advertising. She's just not gonna stay dead.

LOL :up:

Threshold

01-19-2006, 02:28 PM

Stumbled across these accidently thanks to www.comics2film.com

http://www.smallvilleph.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10057/reckoning17.jpg

http://www.smallvilleph.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10057/reckoning13.jpg

http://www.smallvilleph.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10057/reckoning15.jpg

www.smallvilleph.com

NOTE: These Pictures Were Released Officially by the WB (so this could be a desperate attempt to throw us off...)

Spaceballs

01-19-2006, 02:32 PM

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4396/normalreckoning123xw.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8635/normalreckoning148xd.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/7228/normalreckoning64jr.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8149/normalreckoning102lz.jpg

Okay maybe some more

The Incredible Hulk

01-19-2006, 02:43 PM

already posted

KalKai

01-19-2006, 02:49 PM

OLD, so OLD, lol.

Kaboom

01-19-2006, 03:12 PM

not only old but in the "reckoning" thread.....merge, or close?

AgentPat

01-19-2006, 03:19 PM

Welcome to last year (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7507874&postcount=714). Literally. LOL :p

These threads are breeding. Make it stop! ;)

Spaceballs

01-19-2006, 03:22 PM

Welcome to last year (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7507874&postcount=714). Literally. LOL :p

These threads are breeding. Make it stop! ;)

One more week to go my friend, one more week to go

Threshold

01-19-2006, 03:52 PM

My bad guys, comics2film had them up on their site for today so I figured that they were new.

Mike_D202

01-19-2006, 04:14 PM

okay everybody watch out for potential hints in tonights episode. :D

Carter

01-19-2006, 04:22 PM

Lana in the fortress?
That ***** is dead

Spaceballs

01-19-2006, 05:02 PM

I hope we get another Dun Dun Dun ending. They really should have saved that for tonight (Lockdown)

Triligors

01-19-2006, 05:48 PM

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8635/normalreckoning148xd.jpg

I think this picture is new. Yeah, we knew Lana enters the fortress. But, with these "new" pics we can see Lana clutching onto herself. She is probably bleeding. Then we see Lana laying on something, motionless. And Clark grabbing a crystal probably screaming out for Jor-El to save Lana. Which he won't. Jesus Christ, if that's it- I'm definitely going to be sad. This will leave a dent in Clark's psyche for sure.

Triligors

01-19-2006, 05:59 PM

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8635/normalreckoning148xd.jpg

I hope Lana doesn't die, because Clark would be more than devestated. Remember what happened when Alicia died? (I think that was her name). Clark became really, really depressed. Well, this would be that times a million and would definitely make the episodes to come a lot darker- same with Jonathon Kent.

Spaceballs

01-19-2006, 07:30 PM

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4838/s30j126sma110268xj.jpg

Well we just got proof that the Woman in this Picture is NOT Sherrif Adams

Mike_D202

01-19-2006, 07:50 PM

Looks like lois.

haha, theres gonna be a lot of ppl going to the hospital in this episode.

Spaceballs

01-19-2006, 07:53 PM

Looks like lois.

haha, theres gonna be a lot of ppl going to the hospital in this episode.

Yeah busier then the Premire

Kaboom

01-19-2006, 08:02 PM

so maybe the reason lana goes to see lex is bc she goes to tell him the truth about clark....................

user123456789

01-19-2006, 08:10 PM

so maybe the reason lana goes to see lex is bc she goes to tell him the truth about clark....................

no way. nope, nada, never.

Spaceballs

01-19-2006, 08:10 PM

so maybe the reason lana goes to see lex is bc she goes to tell him the truth about clark....................

Nope in the 3 Minute Trailer where see Lana in the Car on the Highway & Lex is following shes on the phone with Clark & she tells Clark that Lex was drunk & that Lex could tell that Lana knows something. I guess Lex brought up Clark & Lana had some weird face & Lex was about to tell she knew something So your wrong there & damn it looks like Lionel gives Jonathan one heck of a punch in that 3 Second Clip of that Scene. I really hope Martha feels like shiat :down

user123456789

01-19-2006, 08:23 PM

so maybe the reason lana goes to see lex is bc she goes to tell him the truth about clark....................

no way. nope, nada, never.

uga2002

01-19-2006, 08:47 PM

The death WILL happen the 100th Episode. They gotta do something Amazing to keep us talking during Winter Break.

Jesus Christ! How many frickin' breaks do the buttwipes that do this show need? Smallville is like no other show I've ever seen. They seemingly do 5 episodes, then they take a frickin' 3 month break. They come back and do 5 more shows, and then take another 2 month.

How about these idiots do enough shows where they don't have to take a break every 5 shows. DAMN!

Yes, it pisses me off because it's lame.

Spaceballs

01-19-2006, 08:52 PM

uga2002

01-19-2006, 08:54 PM

Lost is going on break again after 2nd new Episode

Lame! Good thing I don't watch that show. They need to start filming these shows far enough in advance where they don't have to go on so many ridiculous breaks.

Spaceballs

01-19-2006, 08:58 PM

Lame! Good thing I don't watch that show. They need to start filming these shows far enough in advance where they don't have to go on so many ridiculous breaks.

& from what I know its a 6 week break (sighs) they should do what Stargate does & film the entire Season at once. Been that way past 10 years with SG1 & now SGA is doing the same. New shows will never learn :down Sg1 is already filming its 10th Season I think or will be soon

Triligors

01-19-2006, 09:03 PM

Where does it even mention a break? LEXMAS was during the "winter break" then the show came back on and the next episode after reckoning scheduled on tv.com as being the very next week.

SPIDER-MAN-ROX

01-19-2006, 09:06 PM

Jesus Christ! How many frickin' breaks do the buttwipes that do this show need? Smallville is like no other show I've ever seen. They seemingly do 5 episodes, then they take a frickin' 3 month break. They come back and do 5 more shows, and then take another 2 month.

How about these idiots do enough shows where they don't have to take a break every 5 shows. DAMN!

Yes, it pisses me off because it's lame.

I know it sucks but, they have to take time in between to do the special effects for each show. The show would be boring without the special effects. Shows like this which rely heavily on special effects take longer to crank out that just regular shows were all they do is act.

Triligors

01-19-2006, 09:10 PM

Why does everyone says there will be a break after RECKONING. Even K-Site says that there is going to be no "breaks"- whoever spread that, has wrong information.

Robin91939

01-19-2006, 09:48 PM

Spaceballs

01-19-2006, 09:50 PM

Its the 100th Episode not 99th

Anguissette1979

01-19-2006, 09:51 PM

I think Robin was referring to the fact that Sheriff Adams was shot and killed in Ep 99.

Robin91939

01-19-2006, 09:55 PM

indeed.

-R

Robin91939

01-19-2006, 09:56 PM

indeed.

-R

Mister J

01-19-2006, 09:56 PM

I think Robin was referring to the fact that Sheriff Adams was shot and killed in Ep 99.

I really have to remember to stop coming here on Thursdays after the show premieres on the East Coast. Damn eager nature to discuss Smallville.

No biggie, there's always next week.

Robin91939

01-19-2006, 09:56 PM

:: Double Post ::

-R

Spaceballs

01-19-2006, 09:57 PM

I wonder how many times Lex has been shot these last 5 years

Morg

01-19-2006, 10:04 PM

what I wonder is consider how much crime and superpowers nuts Smallville had, why didn't the sheriff had a bulletproof vest on?

user123456789

01-19-2006, 10:06 PM

what I wonder is consider how much crime and superpowers nuts Smallville had, why didn't the sheriff had a bulletproof vest on?

DUDE... i was expecting her to reveal a vest when she unzipped her jacket...

and what kind of bullets do those deputies carry? that thing tore her a new a-hole.

The Hurricane

01-19-2006, 10:24 PM

So who does everyone think is going to die? Sorry if this thread has been done already :eek:

Chloe has got to go I think... What do you guys think?

The Hurricane

01-19-2006, 10:26 PM

And of coarse I find the place where I shold ahve posted this 10 seconds after I make it. Sorry

Morg

01-19-2006, 10:26 PM

we do have a Smallville forum, go there

The Hurricane

01-19-2006, 10:31 PM

One thing that ticks me off is that so many characters have been shot, etc. I'm glad that in the 99th ep some ppl actually died. Even though Luthor was shot in 2 of 3 episodes.

I really do, however think that Chloe is going to bite the dust in 100.

I really have it narrowed down to:

John and Chloe.

-R
They better actually die this time. I dont want any revivals or mysterious healings. I want them to be 100% cold and dead. And it beter be Chloe

DarthSkywalker

01-19-2006, 11:00 PM

That stupid promo basically tells you Lana is not going to bit it. crap.

thechubbysaint

01-19-2006, 11:14 PM

Looks like Lana and Jon.

Mister J

01-19-2006, 11:22 PM

I'm still holding out for Chloe to be Dead Woman Walking. Its too obvious for Jonathan and they've been pointing at he and Lana for awhile. Chloe would be a swerve of sorts.

Carter

01-19-2006, 11:35 PM

. I want them to be 100% cold and dead. And it beter be Chloe

haha wow thats cold

darkzombiemutt

01-19-2006, 11:37 PM

Oh no!, Im going to be in Mexico next week during this episode! AAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spider-Gamer

01-19-2006, 11:50 PM

haha wow thats cold
I have to agree! :eek:

JAX

01-19-2006, 11:51 PM

I want them to be 100% cold and dead

LOL...thats funniest thing I've heard in thread in while.

avidreader

01-20-2006, 12:24 AM

so maybe the reason lana goes to see lex is bc she goes to tell him the truth about clark....................

Apparently she goes there because she's left some paperwork at Lex's, from their researching, that may pinpoint towards Clark and his secret.

Lex realises a short while after that she's taken it and that's why he chases after her.

muscaremy

01-20-2006, 12:29 AM

had absolutely no clue where this should go so ill just throw it in here.... i was watching the trailer for the silent hill movie and someone whos been on smallville is in it..... the lil creepy clone girl emily dinsmore person is in it.... a link to the trailer is on superhero main page for those that care

Brainiac 8

01-20-2006, 12:39 AM

Oh no!, Im going to be in Mexico next week during this episode! AAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

El Donde es Smallville!:eek: :p ;)

muscaremy

01-20-2006, 12:46 AM

so anyone else besides me want it to be next week already

Tron5000

01-20-2006, 02:52 AM

Sorry if this is late (luckily I have TiVo, so I just watched it), but all those folks that thought that Sheriff Adams would bite it were correct...albeit 1 episode early.

Tron5000

01-20-2006, 02:52 AM

And to be quite honest, I thought there would be much more chatter on this board following Ep 99.

The Hurricane

01-20-2006, 03:40 AM

And to be quite honest, I thought there would be much more chatter on this board following Ep 99.
She was anoiying anyway. It just gives the makers of smallville an excuse to make another episode based around the new sherif

Tron5000

01-20-2006, 03:55 AM

It also throws some people off track, since we know 2 people will die in 100.

The Hurricane

01-20-2006, 04:59 AM

Yeah.. ture. And whats the bet in this 100th episode that lana dies because clark told her the secret or she get amnesia AGAIN! because we cant have her knowing clarks secret.

Triligors

01-20-2006, 06:20 AM

I actually now think the pictures go something like this:

1. Lana gets into a major accident and is severely bleeding
2. Clark knows that the hospital can't do anything, so he tries the Fortress of Solitude
3. Lana walks in, clutching her chest in pain- as Clark tells her his secret. She faints, he places her on something and begs for his father to save her life.
4. Jor-El agrees, since this was not part of his plan (a la Jonathon dies), and he saves Lana
5. Lana wakes back up, Clark asks her to mary him

How do you think those pictures may line up?

GarudA

01-20-2006, 06:29 AM

I think it could turn out this way as well, Clark begs Jor-El for Lanas life and, Jor-El some how turns back time before the events, and clark saves lana before she can die, and whiles thats happening JK dies and clark asks Jor-El again for help, grants it, but this time Lana dies in turn.

What I am saying is Lana might die twice, as away Jor-El might show clark he can't do nothing to stop her from dying as its meant to happen.

rumpuso

01-20-2006, 07:08 AM

I don't remember seeing any blood on Lana in the Fortress. What page is that picture on here?

Kane

01-20-2006, 07:14 AM

NHawk19

01-20-2006, 07:41 AM

Pythenis

01-20-2006, 08:22 AM

So does Jonathan kent become the new face of Jor-el??????

Pythenis

01-20-2006, 08:23 AM

Maybe??

Serene

01-20-2006, 08:28 AM

So does Jonathan kent become the new face of Jor-el??????
I believe Al Gough just said in an interview either on KSite or TWOP that the plan is to get Terence Stamp to play Jor-El.

I'd look it up, but work calls...

bleh.

Kane

01-20-2006, 08:41 AM

Well he wouldnt be the first choice I had to play Jorel...

but I guess it works well with the voice.

The Hurricane

01-20-2006, 10:31 AM

The guy who does Jor els voice is Zorg fromt he original SUperman movie. Here is his IMDB http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000654/

Michael Corleone

01-20-2006, 11:28 AM

The guy who does Jor els voice is Zorg fromt he original SUperman movie. Here is his IMDB http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000654/

Uh not trying to be a jackass about this but yes everyone knows...But it's Zod not zorg. His name is Terrence Stamp. Check him out in his other work...he is an excellent actor.

8atman

01-20-2006, 11:35 AM

You know the trailer got me very excited but there has been so much hype over who gets it on the 100th episode that I can't believe they would just release a clip revealing the big secret. You know there is going to be some type of big twist that will make the trailer be the final outcome. I've heard rumors of time travel being involved which frankly I think kind of sucks. If Kryptonians were capable of time travel you would think they would of been much more capable of keeping there planet from blowing up.

Triligors

01-20-2006, 11:47 AM

Ok, yeah my mistake- I originally only saw the pictures that Spaceballs had up and attempted to link them, but after seeing the pictures are actually of Jonathon dieing. I'm thankful. Not to be- "I wanted Jonathon to die"- but we all know Jonathon's death= Superman's "birth."

Mister J

01-20-2006, 12:00 PM

The cynic in me is beginning to think they just threw those pictures of Jonathan in the FOS out there to throw people off. This seems like one of the better guarded plot-twists in reecnt memory, even in this massive Net/Information Age. If I were a producer, I'd do it. How hard is it to snap a few pics of JK around the time you're doing the actual death scene?

Of course, this could all be a manifestation of my extreme desire to see Chloe go bye-bye.

Kaboom

01-20-2006, 12:08 PM

His name is Terrence Stamp. Check him out in his other work...he is an excellent actor.

like in Elektra.....lol

Spaceballs

01-20-2006, 12:22 PM

like in Elektra.....lol

I'll never forgive him for being in that

The Sage

01-20-2006, 12:57 PM

At last the time is near. Die old man, die...*cues ominous music*

Michael Corleone

01-20-2006, 03:53 PM

like in Elektra.....lol
Ouch you went there. lol OK so actors dont always make the best choices. I'll give him some slack considering his other films.

musclesforsupes

01-20-2006, 04:17 PM

God cant someone or some website spoil it for us, does Kryptonsite know who dies, and is withholding it from us? If I find out now, I wont have stress over the weekend :( SOMEONE TELL ME NOW!

Kaboom

01-20-2006, 04:20 PM

Ouch you went there. lol OK so actors dont always make the best choices. I'll give him some slack considering his other films.

i did...i did....

Zorex

01-20-2006, 06:13 PM

At last the time is near. Die old man, die...*cues ominous music*
hahaha :up:

Thunder Emperor

01-20-2006, 08:23 PM

At last the time is near. Die old man, die...*cues ominous music*
no pa kent will live.

The Hurricane

01-20-2006, 08:36 PM

like in Elektra.....lol
Probably cant turn down working with Jennifer Garner

Kaboom

01-20-2006, 09:03 PM

she used to be my favorite actress until she started changing husbands like i change my shirts.

mellyM

01-20-2006, 09:09 PM

she used to be my favorite actress until she started changing husbands like i change my shirts.
I hope you've changed shirts more than twice ;)

Kaboom

01-20-2006, 09:15 PM

lol i meant boyfriends and husbands...it seems like she constantly upgrades (if you can call ben affleck an upgrade) as her celebrity star rises.

Kaboom

01-20-2006, 09:17 PM

user123456789

01-20-2006, 09:24 PM

i didnt know where ot put this: but im watching numb3rs on cbs.....and theres a particularly attractive blond walking around on it. now i know this isnt a shock...a pretty girl on television?!?!?!?! the thing is when she oened her mouth and started speaking, my mouth dropped! its alicia from smallville! there is no mistaking that voice! just thoght you would all like to know

just another example of people who guest star in smallville that go on to do more things in entertainment.

she has also been in an episode of Entourage on HBO.

JAX

01-20-2006, 11:11 PM

just another example of people who guest star in smallville that go on to do more things in entertainment.

she has also been in an episode of Entourage on HBO.

I miss her. She was smoking hot.

Squatlow

01-20-2006, 11:37 PM

I'd be more than happy with Terence Stamp as Jor-El since he's voiced the character all along. But in my "Fantasy Smallville League" if MacLeod is gonna be Zod, then I'll trade Stamp for Methos!

and of course maybe a player to be named later... :D

Wiccan

01-21-2006, 01:53 AM

Hello,

I have been reading and enjoying this thread since about post 50.

I see that no one enhanced a couple of the photos that looked of some interest. So, I did that.... The second does look like Lois? I had to play with the lighting, and to let you know - her hair was a bit of a warmer brown in the earlier stages, but not as dark as Lana's.

In the first image, it looks like Lana just fell out of the door - no fatal wounds from the look of it......?

Your thoughts?

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5463/svp4yg.png

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5402/image27jp.png

Wiccan

01-21-2006, 02:37 AM

I translated one of the French posts on the site that had the movie trailer... Please excuse some of the rough edges.

Le personnage qui meurt dans le 100ème épisode a été révélé. Pour ceux qui ne souhaitent pas savoir veuillez ne pas lire ce qui suit. Après avoir réssucité Clark, Jor-El lui a annoncé qu'il y avait une conséquence à cela, et qu'une personne qu'il aime devrait mourrir en échange de sa résurection. Dans le 100ème épisode de la série, intitulé Reckoning, la personne que Clark aime et qui mourra est Jonathan, son père. L'acteur John Schneider a du être surpris car aux dernières nouvelles il a refusé un pilot que TheWB lui a proposé. (surligner pour lire) Affaire à suivre...

The character who dies in the 100th episode was revealed. For those who do not wish to know please not read what follows. After having ressucity(resuscitated or bring back from the dead) Clark, Jor-El announced to him that there was a consequence with that, and that a person whom he loves should die in exchange of his résurection (resuscitated or bring back from the dead). In the 100th episode of the series, titled Reckoning, the person that Clark loves and who will die is Jonathan, his father. The actor John Schneider has surprised being bus with the last news he refused a pilot that The WB proposed (Information for reading) Business to be followed to him...

Wiccan

01-21-2006, 02:37 AM

Ooops duplicate post...

MJZ

01-21-2006, 04:32 AM

Haven't read this anywhere else but someone told me one of the rumors going around is that Lana actually dies but Jonathan sacrifices himself to bring her back? Anyone else heard this? Link?

Wiccan

01-21-2006, 07:16 AM

Actually, I thought that the paragraph I worked on was going to say that...

But, that said, I have read speculation on that as well.

avidreader

01-21-2006, 10:10 AM

The actor John Schneider has surprised being bus with the last news he refused a pilot that The WB proposed (Information for reading) Business to be followed to him...

I'm not quite following the entire meaning of this sentence. Do you think you could expand on in it a little?

JAX

01-21-2006, 10:57 AM

I'm not quite following the entire meaning of this sentence. Do you think you could expand on in it a little?

I would say the meaning is John Schneider refused the new pilot from WB, which is surprising considering he is looking for new work from the WB. That would be my guess. I'll try to translate it more.

JAX

01-21-2006, 11:10 AM

avidreader

01-21-2006, 11:32 AM

I just read the Gough interview for a 2nd time at K-Site (http://www.kryptonsite.com/gough0106.htm) and its interesting to hear from the producers how much the movie dictats SV. It's kind of upsetting.

I think they have a pretty free hand, but what they're able to do with Lois is probably somewhat restricted by the sounds of it.

Serene

01-21-2006, 11:56 AM

Haven't read this anywhere else but someone told me one of the rumors going around is that Lana actually dies but Jonathan sacrifices himself to bring her back? Anyone else heard this? Link?

No links to hardcore proof but that is one of the many speculations floating around. It seems likely from a lot of what has been said about this episode, that Lana will not stay dead.. if she indeed dies even, which also looks likely.

How she comes back, is still a subject of much discussion. A few possibilities:

1) Clark pulls a Cher and 'turns back time' (a nod to the movie in typical SV fashion). The timing of the reversal is also a subject of debate. Leading theories are that he will take her back to before he revealed all and proposed to her. Which will piss me off in a very big way, btw. :)

2) Jonathan offers his lifeforce in exchange for hers (knowing his ticker's about to cash in anyway - thereby giving Clark a lesson in self-sacrifice, and his inability to save everyone.

3) She is only critically injured (again) but not fatally. Does this girl even HAVE medical insurance anymore?

avidreader

01-21-2006, 12:06 PM

1) Clark pulls a Cher and 'turns back time' (a nod to the movie in typical SV fashion). The timing of the reversal is also a subject of debate. Leading theories are that he will take her back to before he revealed all and proposed to her. Which will piss me off in a very big way, btw. :)

You and me both. If that happens we can join forces and go and tear down the writers' room together. I'm sure we'll have lots of helpers if need be. ;)

Furthermore, I cannot see Jor-el agreeing to do something like this. It goes against everything that he has tried to teach Clark.

2) Jonathan offers his lifeforce in exchange for hers (knowing his ticker's about to cash in anyway - thereby giving Clark a lesson in self-sacrifice, and his inability to save everyone.

This is my preference, and given that the episode only lasts for 42-43 minutes, I think this is the most appropriate and logical theory. And the self-sacrifice thing fits in well. Plus it also fits back to Lana's line in Fanatic about coming back from the dead.

3) She is only critically injured (again) but not fatally. Does this girl even HAVE medical insurance anymore?

LOL! The do say someone dies in the car crash. It makes it even more dramatic if she does.

Actually reading the WB description again

In the 100th episode of the series, Clark (Tom Welling) reveals his secret to Lana (Kristin Kreuk), Jonathan (John Schneider) and Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) learn the results of the senatorial election and there is a tragic car accident on the highway that takes the life of someone Clark loves. A desperate Clark appeals to Jor-El for help. Allison Mack, Erica Durance, John Glover and Annette O'Toole also star.

If she is only injured it is possible that Jonathan heals her or sacrifices himself, and that is the life that is lost as a consequence of the car accident. There are so many scenarios, that thinking about it makes one's head hurt, so I think I'll just stop speculating and wait the few days left 'til the episode airs, before I really hurt myself.:)

Spaceballs

01-21-2006, 12:39 PM

LOL! The do say someone dies in the car crash

The trick is what happens AFTER. Not many actually stay dead on Smallville

Red

01-21-2006, 12:46 PM

Haven't read this anywhere else but someone told me one of the rumors going around is that Lana actually dies but Jonathan sacrifices himself to bring her back? Anyone else heard this? Link?

thats what i suggested, still sounds like a good idea. Clark stepping forward to save Lana and Jonathan scarifices himself for his son.

triplet

01-21-2006, 12:56 PM

You and me both. If that happens we can join forces and go and tear down the writers' room together. I'm sure we'll have lots of helpers if need be. ;)

You know, I'll be happy to swing a sledge hammer right along side you, as long as I get to take one of their Herman Miller Aeron chairs home with me...

The one thing I miss about working at the evil empire that is Hewlett-Packard is the great chair I sat my ass in every day:

http://www.hermanmiller.com/hm/content/product/image/P_AER_L122.jpg

You know, if I ever sell a script I'll treat myself to one of these... that chair was truly the most comfortable chair I had ever had the pleasure to put my butt into. :D

Spaceballs

01-21-2006, 01:03 PM

I call using Grenade Laucnhers if they screw up this Episode

Bruce_Wayne29

01-21-2006, 01:12 PM

I don't know why they never ask Gough, the million dollar question: after the show is over would he do a spinoff (tv or theatrical) movie with Welling in the suit.
Would also be nice to know if they have tried to get Gene Hackman for a special part in an episode.

Spaceballs

01-21-2006, 01:15 PM

I don't know why they never ask Gough, the million dollar question: after the show is over would he do a spinoff (tv or theatrical) movie with Welling in the suit

A) Welling in the Suit & Theatrical = NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN

B) Those questions will be asked more near when the Show is almost over

triplet

01-21-2006, 01:21 PM

I call using Grenade Laucnhers if they screw up this Episode

No, a sledge hammer is the way to go. Much more cathartic to use muscle power to do something like that I think.

As long as we have Pat and Hulk right there swinging next to us, that is. I'm not exactly the brawney type.

:D

Spaceballs

01-21-2006, 01:28 PM

No, a sledge hammer is the way to go. Much more cathartic to use muscle power to do something like that I think.

As long as we have Pat and Hulk right there swinging next to us, that is. I'm not exactly the brawney type.

:D

You guys can have the sledge hammers I'll stick with Grenade Launcher. The more damage the better :up:

Wiccan

01-21-2006, 01:45 PM

I would say the meaning is John Schneider refused the new pilot from WB, which is surprising considering he is looking for new work from the WB. That would be my guess. I'll try to translate it more.

Your correct, Thanks! :)

Spaceballs

01-21-2006, 01:48 PM

Jonathan offers his lifeforce in exchange for hers (knowing his ticker's about to cash in anyway - thereby giving Clark a lesson in self-sacrifice, and his inability to save everyone.

& you know what really sucks if Jonathan gives his life for Lana. In the end Clark & Lana does NOT stay together. I say keep Lana dead for that reason. Not worth it for Clark loosing Jonathan over a girl he wont even be with for the rest of his life. Damn you show writers

Serene

01-21-2006, 02:00 PM

& you know what really sucks if Jonathan gives his life for Lana. In the end Clark & Lana does NOT stay together. I say keep Lana dead for that reason. Not worth it for Clark loosing Jonathan over a girl he wont even be with for the rest of his life. Damn you show writers

That's kind of a shallow attitude. Clark and Lana will not be staying together, ultimately, but that's not the point.

The lesson is about self-sacrifice, not about just saving the girl your son loves.

KalKai

01-21-2006, 02:29 PM

http://television.aol.com/videoondemand

New scene, with Lex and Lana, she has the ring on, he notices, and starts asking why she said yes with all the lies he (Clark) tells her.

http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/aoltelevision/2006/wb/smallville/smallville_episode_512_preview_dl.mov

right click & save.

JAX

01-21-2006, 02:59 PM

A) Welling in the Suit & Theatrical = NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN

B) Those questions will be asked more near when the Show is almost over

Never say never. Now, yes it is very unlikley. I hate to speculate, but if there is a small chance that fans (general and internet) dont react well to the movie, and the movie itself is not a big draw.....at that point WB may look at Welling, Gough, Millar for a "Batman Begins" type Superman movie. However, considering the movie will make millions on name reckogniation alone...doubt that will happen. I reserve my thoughts on the movie once I see it start to finish.

The Incredible Hulk

01-21-2006, 03:34 PM

JAX

01-21-2006, 03:34 PM

JAX

01-21-2006, 03:38 PM

I think they have a pretty free hand, but what they're able to do with Lois is probably somewhat restricted by the sounds of it.

Hopefully they wont block Shaq from doing a cameo as STEEL.........................just kidding :)

Spaceballs

01-21-2006, 04:03 PM

New scene, with Lex and Lana, she has the ring on, he notices, and starts asking why she said yes with all the lies he (Clark) tells her.

Then Lana gives Lex a look & Lex figures out that Lana now knows & starts to get evil at Lana & Lana tries to change the subject then Lex starts to get Violent Lana kicks Lex in the nuts & she leaves the mansion & Lex goes after her :p

I'll try to find out the Choir Music at the end its great

MJZ

01-21-2006, 04:21 PM

Who here's with me in thinking that Lana will conveniently "forget" about Clark's secret, along with Lex?

MJZ

01-21-2006, 04:32 PM

EDIT: Sorry double-post.

Spaceballs

01-21-2006, 04:55 PM

Who here's with me in thinking that Lana will conveniently "forget" about Clark's secret, along with Lex?

Then we gather an army & attack any & all WB Studios :up:

This Episode is supposed to COMPLETELY CHANGE THE SHOW so lets hope that crap dont happen

KalKai

01-21-2006, 05:01 PM

EW wouldn't have given the episode a B+ if that really happened.

triplet

01-21-2006, 05:04 PM

triplet

01-21-2006, 05:09 PM

EW wouldn't have given the episode a B+ if that really happened.

Good point! :D

user123456789

01-21-2006, 05:10 PM

why does lana touch lex so affectionately nowadays?

The Incredible Hulk

01-21-2006, 05:26 PM

because she's feeling a bit randy lately and Clark cant "close the deal" :p

avidreader

01-21-2006, 05:35 PM

You know, I'll be happy to swing a sledge hammer right along side you, as long as I get to take one of their Herman Miller Aeron chairs home with me...

Sure, the more the merrier.

EW wouldn't have given the episode a B+ if that really happened.

That is an excellent point, and thanks for posting the clip.

The Caped Knight

01-21-2006, 06:53 PM

I just read a New WB Official Description for : "Reckoning" from another SV site that mentions Lois & Chloe. anyways I saw The same Description Click here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallville_%28Season_5%29)

"Reckoning"

Clark is finally willing to reveal his secret to Lana, but could it be too late? Jonathan and Lex learn the results of the senatorial election and the life of someone Clark loves will be taken away from him. A desperate Clark appeals to Jor-El for help. Chloe helps Lois prepare to move to the city again.

Look like Lois is Heading Back to Metropolis, and going to be with Chloe, Is it possible she heading back to school ?

Kaboom

01-21-2006, 06:58 PM

why cant it just be thursday then all our questions will have answers.

The Hurricane

01-21-2006, 07:34 PM

why cant it just be thursday then all our questions will have answers.
I know. The suspence is killing me. But ihave to wait till friday

Spaceballs

01-21-2006, 07:36 PM

[quote=Kal-El 8]Clark is finally willing to reveal his secret to Lana, but could it be too late? /quote]

I thought Clark reveals the Secret before the accitdent (newest Video says so) Unless these guys are trying to throw People off & if they are they are sure doing a poor job

The Incredible Hulk

01-21-2006, 07:38 PM

theyre doing fine. I'd say about 2-3% of the people who watch Smallville analyze it to death like those of us here... My entire family is clueless.. oh yeah and they know nothing about episode 100 either ;) :p

AgentPat

01-21-2006, 07:41 PM

A) Welling in the Suit & Theatrical = NEVER GOING TO HAPPENWanna make a little wager on that? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smug.gif

Serene

01-21-2006, 07:50 PM

No matter how many times I see that clip of Clark running up to Lana's overturned car and her laying there, I get a lump in my throat. :(

triplet

01-21-2006, 07:56 PM

No matter how many times I see that clip of Clark running up to Lana's overturned car and her laying there, I get a lump in my throat. :(

Me too... :(

Spaceballs

01-21-2006, 07:58 PM

Wanna make a little wager on that? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smug.gif

Wont happen ANY TIME soon Theatrical Wise. Wether you like it or not which I know you dont like it Superman Returns WILL be a hit & even if it under performs (which is HIGHLY UNLIKELY) this Movie WILL make its Money back on DVD & HD-DVD & Blu Ray which will get it Sequels. The :supes: name alone will make this Movie money. Just because YOU dont like the new Movie does not mean others will & besides If WB really wanted it it they could have ended Smallville at Season 4 & do a Smallville Movie with Clark finally becoming Superman on the Big Screen but WB didnt. So that alone says something. If WB wanted Welling to be Superman hed be Superman. While Tom has repeated said he himself is happy they are not making him wear the Suit & have him be Superman but Money changes everything & if WB pushed for it Tom would be Superman but guess what hes not & WB didnt try their hardest to get Tom & get Smallville on the Big Screen. The Closest we will get Tom as Superman is a Metropolis spin off but WB would have to anti up Toms Pay Check since Tom is very happy he doesnt have to wear the Suit now.

Serene

01-21-2006, 08:07 PM

Wont happen ANY TIME soon Theatrical Wise. Wether you like it or not which I know you dont like it Superman Returns WILL be a hit & even if it under performs (which is HIGHLY UNLIKELY) this Movie WILL make its Money back on DVD & HD-DVD & Blu Ray which will get it Sequels. The :supes: name alone will make this Movie money. Just because YOU dont like the new Movie does not mean others will & besides If WB really wanted it it they could have ended Smallville at Season 4 & do a Smallville Movie with Clark finally becoming Superman on the Big Screen but WB didnt. So that alone says something. If WB wanted Welling to be Superman hed be Superman. While Tom has repeated said he himself is happy they are not making him wear the Suit & have him be Superman but Money changes everything & if WB pushed for it Tom would be Superman but guess what hes not & WB didnt try their hardest to get Tom & get Smallville on the Big Screen. The Closest we will get Tom as Superman is a Metropolis spin off but WB would have to anti up Toms Pay Check since Tom is very happy he doesnt have to wear the Suit now.

Is that a "no?" to Pat's question then?

Spaceballs

01-21-2006, 08:10 PM

Is that a "no?" to Pat's question then?

Yep

Like I said actions speak louder then words & IF the WB REALLY REALLY wanted Tom to be Superman then he would be Superman

Serene

01-21-2006, 08:14 PM

Actually.. I was being both facetious and rhetorical.

I really need to stop amusing myself so much.

triplet

01-21-2006, 08:15 PM

Yep

Like I said actions speak louder then words & IF the WB REALLY REALLY wanted Tom to be Superman then he would be Superman

:rolleyes:

AgentPat

01-21-2006, 08:21 PM

Wont happen ANY TIME soon Theatrical Wise. Wether you like it or not which I know you dont like it Superman Returns WILL be a hit & even if it under performs (which is HIGHLY UNLIKELY) this Movie WILL make its Money back on DVD & HD-DVD & Blu Ray which will get it Sequels... [snip continued irrelevant diatribe]:rolleyes:

Whatever dude. I'm continually amazed by what people ass-u-me based on heresy, misquoted comments, and flat out blatantly wrong information, and then post it as fact. But that's okay. SR's success or failure means squat to SV's potential future theatrically, but I'll just drop it here. I've been around the block with this line of discussion quite a few times, and I don't wish to turn an episode thread into yet another place for film/show argument. Suffice it to say however I'm fairly certain enough to bet money on quite a few people eating SV Crow at some point in the future, "near" or otherwise. :p

Spaceballs

01-21-2006, 08:31 PM

:rolleyes:

Whatever dude. I'm continually amazed by what people ass-u-me based on heresy, misquoted comments, and flat out blatantly wrong information, and then post it as fact. But that's okay. SR's success or failure means squat to SV's potential future theatrically, but I'll just drop it here. I've been around the block with this line of discussion quite a few times, and I don't wish to turn an episode thread into yet another place for film/show argument. Suffice it to say however I'm fairly certain enough to bet money on quite a few people eating SV Crow at some point in the future, "near" or otherwise. :p

I guess Pat must think she rules the world. Whatever she dont like no one else does & whatever she thinks IS FACT & everyone else is wrong

jas01724

01-21-2006, 08:32 PM

And this is why I won't discuss that topic any more.

If we're placing bets, I'll bet on the fifth dimension ...

JAX

01-21-2006, 08:39 PM

:rolleyes:
eating SV Crow at some point in the future:p

Pun intended????:up::)

Squatlow

01-21-2006, 10:51 PM

I guess Pat must think she rules the world. Whatever she dont like no one else does & whatever she thinks IS FACT & everyone else is wrong

Long time posters (and long time lurkers ) who follow the "Adventures of Smallville Forum" know that some posters are more...uhhh...aware of certain...uhhh...events in the world of...uhhh...entertainment behind the scenes...uhhh...as it were, and...uhhh...may be better at reading and deciphering...uhhh...tea leaves...uhhh...which is to say that they...uhhh... may have or share little bits of...uhhh...intel (so to speak) either privately or through...uhhh...cryptic posts and so are usually...uhhh...pretty spot on in their...uhhh...assessment of the...uhhhh...situation both past and future.

In other words, I'd personally be reluctant to discount Ms. Pat or one of her (occasional) favorite partners in prose...uhhhh...whuzzzizzzname....jack something or other...mercy sakes, if only I could remember that guy's name.
:)

NotFadeAway

01-22-2006, 01:09 AM

Man Im gonna miss Jonathan a lot more than Lana........

avidreader

01-22-2006, 11:18 AM

Squatlow.... nice post. :up:

I'm with Serene and Triplet. I get a lump in my throat and shivers down my spine every time I watch that Reckoning clip. And to think that we're going to have to go through it twice within that episode.

:(

Red

01-22-2006, 12:35 PM

Kaboom

01-22-2006, 01:15 PM

lanas death definetly woul not upset me.....maybe pete ross,,,, but not me

Spaceballs

01-22-2006, 03:24 PM

The Incredible Hulk

01-22-2006, 08:23 PM

Squatlow I miss your old sig :)

Squatlow

01-22-2006, 09:19 PM

Squatlow I miss your old sig :)

If you mean the 'my dog has a lisp' sig; it'll be back around the same time as the release of a certain summer popcorn movie...:bomb:

Meanwhile, as a public service, I shall continue to quote President Bush.:D :D

"Speech is a mirror of the soul; as a man speaks, so is he."
Publilius Syrus (~100 BCE)

Mister J

01-22-2006, 09:25 PM

If theres one thing to look forward to after this Episode is Lana wont be treated like an idiot with Clark anymore with the lame excuses Clark always used to make. It took 5 years but I guess even an alien can be a slow learner
:p

We'll see. This whole time travel thing has me edgy, though it may just be a rumor. If she comes out of this episode still not knowing, I'll let loose a primal scream. Of course, none of you will hear it, so I'll have to convey it through my keyboard.

avidreader

01-22-2006, 09:28 PM

We'll see. This whole time travel thing has me edgy, though it may just be a rumor. If she comes out of this episode still not knowing, I'll let loose a primal scream. Of course, none of you will hear it, so I'll have to convet it through my keyboard.

If Lana loses her memory, I think the WWW might suffer from a major crash as everybody will be screaming through their keyboards.

jas01724

01-22-2006, 09:40 PM

If Lana loses her memory, I think the WWW might suffer from a major crash as everybody will be screaming through their keyboards.I'll just tap my desk and think "typical." :p

avidreader

01-22-2006, 09:44 PM

Just found this interview, thanks to Sweet.

Smallville's 100th: Whose Number Is Up?
by Matt Webb Mitovich
strPhotoCredits +="Smallville by Sergei Bachlakov/ The WB, "http://www.tvguide.com/NR/rdonlyres/476CD7D6-1197-4300-A4E7-BE090D7AD7E4/6142/060123insider1.jpgTom Welling and Kristen Kreuk, Smallville

Psst. I'm going to let you in on a little secret: The 100th episode of WB's Smallville (http://online.tvguide.com/NewSearch/detail.aspx?id=3149668&tvobjectid=100398&sourcetype=S&progseriesparentid=3149668&keyword=smallville&referrer=search1), airing this Thursday at 8 pm/ET, features the death of a major character. "No!" you exclaim. "You're making this up!" "First I've heard!" OK, enough, you wisenheimers. Still, much secrecy (some of it rather effective) has surrounded the ill-fated Smallviller's identity, and while this Q&A isn't about to blab who it is, we thought it'd be interesting to chat up cocreator Al Gough (http://www.tvguide.com/redirect?keyword=al+gough) about... yeah, that. TVGuide.com: You must feel like this is all you've talked about for half your life, don't you?
Al Gough: [Laughs]
TVGuide.com: You never want to hear "100th-episode death" again, do you?
Gough: [Still laughing] "100th-episode death hoopla!"
TVGuide.com: But first: Is WB ready to announce that Smallville has been picked up for next season?
Gough: No. That would be great, but no word yet. We're confident, though!
TVGuide.com: Enough digression. Regarding the "100th-episode death," how beholden do you and Miles Millar (http://www.tvguide.com/redirect?keyword=miles+millar) keep yourselves to the Superman movies' mythology when determining characters' fates? Do you feel like you can't kill someone we've already seen alive in the films? Is that a hard-and-fast rule?
Gough: No, not necessarily, to be perfectly honest. We feel like in our show, like the various Superman comics, [the characters] can each sort of exist in their own reality. It's not something that is necessarily synched up to the movie franchise, past or present.
TVGuide.com: So with all due respect to Annette O'Toole (http://www.tvguide.com/redirect?keyword=annette+o'toole), who played Lana in Superman III, you conceivably could kill off Lana.
Gough: Exactly. We kept ourselves open to that. It could be any of the characters — but not Clark. [Laughs]
TVGuide.com: How will this death affect Clark's direction for the remainder of the season?
Gough: Not just for the remainder of the season, but for the remainder of the series, it really makes him take a look at his life up to this point, the decisions he's made and the decisions going forward. It's definitely a step away from Superboy towards Superman, which is what this whole season has been about. That's one of the reasons the fans have been responding to [Season 5], because we're allowing the characters to grow up. They're out of high school and facing bigger, more complex decisions. Certainly Clark is, in his relationship with Lana and having sex.... There are now bigger costs and bigger consequences for everything he does. Things don't neatly wrap themselves up at the end of every episode.
TVGuide.com: What were the driving forces in deciding to kill off this character? Was it purely for story-line impact, did budget play into it at all, was it just a desire to shake things up...?
Gough: Again, what we have found doing this show each season is that you need to do something to kind of shake things up. Last year we brought in Lois. This year we knew we had some big pieces to play with — the Fortress of Solitude, Brainiac, Clark and Lana having sex — but then we said, "It's the fifth year of the show and there needs to be a seismic shift in the series." Something happens that really is absolute, and this person won't magically come back to life.
TVGuide.com: That was my next question: How dead is this dead person?
Gough: Oh, they're dead. It's no "Bobby Ewing stepping out of the shower." It's not a dream.
TVGuide.com: And 24's Jack Bauer didn't help stage the whole thing.
Gough: Exactly. [Laughs] Actually, Chloe from Smallville and Chloe from 24 teamed up and....
TVGuide.com: Both Chloes are good with computers, and both are blonde.... Interesting. Anyway, how did this cast member take the news?
Gough: The cast member took it, actually, with great dignity. I was impressed. While they are sad — notice I'm trying to avoid pronouns — they took it as well as one could expect. It's the nature of being an actor, and it's the nature of television, so....
TVGuide.com: "It's not personal; it's Smallville business."
Gough: No, it's not personal at all. Like I said, a lot of thought went into the decision-making process, and we made sure it was signed off on by the studio and the network. When we pitched it, we said, "This is what we want to do, but we want your blessing."
TVGuide.com: Is it my understanding that we're also bidding adieu to a second character imminently?
Gough: Um... could be. Could be. [Laughs]
TVGuide.com: You're just going to laugh, aren't you? You're not going to comment.
Gough: That's all I can do, is just cackle.
TVGuide.com: Are you and Miles above disseminating bogus info to fan sites, to throw folks off the scent of the 100th-eppy death?
Gough: [Laughs] We're trying to write an Aquaman pilot. We haven't got time to disseminate false information.
TVGuide.com: Well sure, but you get some lackey in the copy room to do it.
Gough: To get online and feed misinformation? We actually don't do that. We probably should, but we don't have our Dick Cheney-like disseminators of misinformation. I think other shows do, and they do that very well — 24 does a brilliant job in that you never knew anything about that show. It just doesn't seem to get out. But with Smallville, I think sometimes I read about the script online before I get it at my house!
TVGuide.com: So, you aren't so insulated to think there aren't a few fans who know for a fact who dies on Jan. 25.
Gough: I'm sure they do. I'm also sure people have strong feelings, and I've seen various speculation about who could die. "Are the characters they created for the series on the chopping block because they aren't in the DC mythology?" All sorts of stuff. Look, we're in the fifth year of the show, I'm just glad people are talking about it! All you can do as a TV show is try to stay relevant and make the best show you can make.
TVGuide.com: You're bringing on Cyborg [played by Lee Thompson Young] in the Feb. 16 episode. How does he fit into the mix?
Gough: We always liked that character from the Teen Titans. He's basically a kid who was a star high-school football player, had a full ride to USC, and then was in a massive car accident, and LuthorCorp, experimenting on what's essentially bionics, sort of put him back together — but potentially for a more nefarious scheme than just helping out this kid. The issues he deals with, it's like Robocop — "How much man am I? How much of a machine am I?" Clark helps this kid figure out how his radically different life isn't necessarily a curse, and how he can get these powers under control, find his humanity and go on and live life.
TVGuide.com: You mentioned Aquaman before. Where do you stand with the pilot?
Gough: We cast Aquaman, obviously — Will Toale — and we are prepping to start shooting in March in Miami.
TVGuide.com: Does Alan Ritchson feel gypped? Was there any unsaid agreement that, having guest-starred as Smallville's A.C., he'd get dibs on the series?
Gough: No, there wasn't, because at the time we did the episode, we had no plans for doing a series. We think Alan did a great job in that episode, but when you see the series, it's a different version of the character than what you saw on Smallville.
TVGuide.com: The basic "hook," no pun intended, is that A.C. runs a dive shop?
Gough: He lives in the Florida Keys, and again, it's a guy in his twenties who really doesn't know about his destiny and has these abilities. He uses them to have fun and get laid, but then in the pilot, destiny comes knocking at his door and he realizes what his true calling is, which is that he's the exiled prince of Atlantis. We liken him to Prince Hal in Henry IV, before he becomes Henry V. It's about getting his act together because his future holds bigger things than running a dive shop.
TVGuide.com: Will it be a struggle to keep his adventures land-based? I mean, how many sea horses can he summon to apprehend a bank robber?
Gough: There will be a fair amount of tank work, but we're not going to Atlantis or anything like that. Plus, you obviously also have the Bermuda Triangle down there as well, so that plays a part.
TVGuide.com: Who knows what sort of creepy crawlies can come out of there?
Gough: Right, who knows what could come out of the Bermuda Triangle?

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Insider/default.htm?cmsRedir=true&rmDate=01232006&cmsGuid=

I'll just tap my desk and think "typical."

You're alot more composed that I am.:rolleyes:

Kaboom

01-22-2006, 09:47 PM

even if lana gets amnesia itll be ok but after the backlash, g and m will write in that lana was making up. and clark believed her because she had forgotten so many imes before.

Spaceballs

01-22-2006, 09:48 PM

Even Gogh says this is Superboy :p & hmm after reading about Aquaman & the Bermuda Triangle fitting into the Plot my interest in that Show has risen a little. Sounds interesting

Zorex

01-22-2006, 11:35 PM

avidreader

01-22-2006, 11:52 PM

I may be more weary than I think, but...Twice within the episode?

Yeah first with Lana, and next with Jonathan. Two deaths, twice the pain and emotion.

Spaceballs

01-22-2006, 11:53 PM

Yeah first with Lana, and next with Jonathan. Two deaths, twice the pain and emotion.

But with Lana that'll fade away quick. Since she does not stay dead. But now she'll know how Clark felt eh

The Hurricane

01-23-2006, 01:12 AM

TVGuide.com: What were the driving forces in deciding to kill off this character? Was it purely for story-line impact, did budget play into it at all, was it just a desire to shake things up...?
Gough: Again, what we have found doing this show each season is that you need to do something to kind of shake things up. Last year we brought in Lois. This year we knew we had some big pieces to play with — the Fortress of Solitude, Brainiac, Clark and Lana having sex — but then we said, "It's the fifth year of the show and there needs to be a seismic shift in the series." Something happens that really is absolute, and this person won't magically come back to life.

Im glade to see that this person will actually be dead dead. There wont be any magical cures here.

JackMercy

01-23-2006, 01:13 AM

In other words, I'd personally be reluctant to discount Ms. Pat or one of her (occasional) favorite partners in prose...uhhhh...whuzzzizzzname....jack something or other...mercy sakes, if only I could remember that guy's name.
:)

You don't say...

I'm sorry, "Egregious Mythology Clashes" prevent me from commenting further...

;)

Enjoy that Fog cereal with some Reckoning pancakes, folks...

(ugh...someone's up waaay too late at the watchtower...)

Spaceballs

01-23-2006, 01:48 AM

There wont be any magical cures here.

"cough, Lana cough"

rumpuso

01-23-2006, 05:30 AM

After reading that TV Guide interview, I'm not quite sure how much that 'Jonathan exchanging his life for Lana's' theory holds value. From Gough's statements, whomever dies stays dead. As he says, they are not pulling a Bobby Ewing.

He also says they don't release false information to stir up internet fans, so it's more than likely that the spoilers for Vengeance with Chloe are true. But then again, this latest WB write-up mentions Lois moving back to Metropolis. Could this be a repurcussion from her cousin's death, possibly?

Good lord! Basically what we have here is nothing. We may all just be surprised as heck come Thursday.

The Hurricane

01-23-2006, 06:27 AM

I cant see lois moving away if one of clarks parents die. She would need to be thre for clark and who ever ensle survived but if chloe dies she would want to go to Metropolis to leave it all behind

musclesforsupes

01-23-2006, 08:07 AM

Hey Pat do you know something about TW dawning the tights in a Superman feature film? Especially after what you said to spaceballs you got me interested. What you know!:)

NHawk19

01-23-2006, 08:51 AM

You don't say...

I'm sorry, "Egregious Mythology Clashes" prevent me from commenting further...

;)

Enjoy that Fog cereal with some Reckoning pancakes, folks...

(ugh...someone's up waaay too late at the watchtower...)

Damn I hate deciphering Jack's stuff. I cant tell whether Lana or JK are the mythology clashes he's refering to :confused:

avidreader

01-23-2006, 09:28 AM

After reading that TV Guide interview, I'm not quite sure how much that 'Jonathan exchanging his life for Lana's' theory holds value. From Gough's statements, whomever dies stays dead. As he says, they are not pulling a Bobby Ewing.

If Jonathan exchanges his life for Lana's, then that's the dead that stays dead. The first one does not stay dead. :rolleyes:

I cant see lois moving away if one of clarks parents die. She would need to be thre for clark and who ever ensle survived but if chloe dies she would want to go to Metropolis to leave it all behind

I think the idea is that she's moving to Metropolis before the death happens.

You don't say...

I'm sorry, "Egregious Mythology Clashes" prevent me from commenting further...

;)

Enjoy that Fog cereal with some Reckoning pancakes, folks...

(ugh...someone's up waaay too late at the watchtower...)

Damn I hate deciphering Jack's stuff. I cant tell whether Lana or JK are the mythology clashes he's refering to :confused:

Yeah, I'm with you, if anyone can explain that I would be forever in their debt.

Maybe he and Muscles are in it together. You know the whole cornkflakes thing. :D

musclesforsupes

01-23-2006, 09:36 AM

Im still waiting to be apart of Kryptonsite :9 I emailed Superman Homepage to see if I could get on with them..

Red

01-23-2006, 10:43 AM

Ain’t no sunshine when shes is gone. Ain’t no sunshine when she’s gone, but she’s always gone to long, anytime she goes away.

mellyM

01-23-2006, 12:37 PM

I think the idea is that she's moving to Metropolis before the death happens.

Where did you read Lois is moving back to Metropolis?

avidreader

01-23-2006, 01:19 PM

Where did you read Lois is moving back to Metropolis?

It was in one of the TV mag episode descriptions. Sorry I cant remember which one, but if I stumble across it again, I'll let you know. :O

mellyM

01-23-2006, 02:52 PM

It was in one of the TV mag episode descriptions. Sorry I cant remember which one, but if I stumble across it again, I'll let you know. :O
its ok, I found it:)

Anguissette1979

01-23-2006, 02:52 PM

Is it Thursday yet? :(

Spaceballs

01-23-2006, 02:54 PM

Is it Thursday yet? :(

Episodes like these makes you wish Smallville was still on Wednesdays :up:

musclesforsupes

01-23-2006, 02:59 PM

GUYS LOOK!!! I was just surfing on Wikipedia.org and look what someone typed!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_Returns

Early Reactions
At the San Diego Comic-Con, Bryan Singer showed a five minute montage of clips from the film to over six-thousand viewers, receiving a standing ovation.

Christopher Reeve's widow Dana Reeve, in an appearance on the Oprah Winfrey Show in 2005, was shown the press release photo of Brandon Routh and gave her nod of approval to the actor and the suit.

However many fans stated that Brandon Routh was not there first choice, and that ultimately many fans wanted Tom Welling in the role, as stated by Welling himself at the Teen Choice Awards. In the end many fans of both Welling and the new Superman movie, feel that some sort of conspiracy occurred with the WB as to why he was not cast, which has led many fans having sour feelings towards Brandon. Welling it seems remains the top choice for Superman Returns in the eyes of many Superman Fans.

NHawk19

01-23-2006, 03:02 PM

musclesforsupes

01-23-2006, 03:03 PM

I didnt do it.

musclesforsupes

01-23-2006, 03:13 PM

HOLY DOUBLE CRAP!!!!

Superman role

Brandon Routh as SupermanPrior to Routh's casting as Superman, Warner Bros had spent over a decade developing a plan to relaunch the franchise, with possible stars including Nicolas Cage and planned helmers including Tim Burton, Wolfgang Peterson, McG, Brett Ratner and Shekhar Kapur. Initially the studio reportedly considered a roster of name actors for the iconic role, including Josh Hartnett, Ashton Kutcher, Jude Law, Brendan Fraser, Jim Caviezel and Smallville star Tom Welling. But when Singer came aboard to direct the film, he insisted that a fresh face be cast to play the part of the famed comic book superhero in the tradition of film's most famous Man of Steel, Christopher Reeve.

Routh, then 25, who won a Hollywood Halloween costume contest in 2003 by dressing as Clark Kent with his shirt open to reveal the Superman "S" underneath had previously auditioned for McG and was tapped by Singer after extensive casting calls in the United States, United Kingdom, Canada and Australia. Impressed by his resemblance to the comic book icon and finding the actor's humble Midwestern roots a perfect fit for the hero's all-American persona, within the first few minutes of meeting Routh, Singer knew "[Routh] is my Superman."

Within hours of the October 2004 casting announcement Routh's name filled an endless array of Internet pages devoted and some not devoted to discussing his worthiness for the role. For his part, the actor kept a low profile to help build anticipation for the film. His casting caused alot of anger in many forums, mostly due to the Welling vs Routh Casting wars which continue to this day. Along with the majority of the fans wanting him to walk in favor of Tom Welling.

Recently however he did step out further into the Hollywood realm by being a presenter with former Lois and Clark star Teri Hatcher at the Golden Globe Awards. He will also be presenting for the Academy Awards on March 5th of 2006 as well.

Filming for the movie Superman Returns began in Australia in February 2005. The film is scheduled for release on June 30, 2006.

When asked about how to handle the big changes that will come after Superman premieres, he said that he doesn't know exactly how he'll be ready for it, but he knows to "prepare to be prepared"

Brandon Routh as Clark KentIn his spare time, Routh enjoys playing soccer and basketball, swimming, biking and reading

Spaceballs

01-23-2006, 03:14 PM

musclesforsupes how can you honestly expect to be part of sites that reports NEW news when you go after OLD ASS NEWS & I mean VERY OLD ASS NEWS & then deny you didnt do it ? Id stop trying if I were you. Your giving everyone more reasons to NOT let you join any sites.

AgentPat

01-23-2006, 03:21 PM

I guess Pat must think she rules the world. Whatever she dont like no one else does & whatever she thinks IS FACT & everyone else is wrongOverreact much? I jokingly asked if you wanted to make a bet - as if either of us are in a position to collect on such a silly thing - and you flew off into lala land about the price of tea in China. Grow up, will ya?

And this is why I won't discuss that topic any more.Tell me about it. Jeeze! :rolleyes:

If we're placing bets, I'll bet on the fifth dimension ...I hear Mxy takes those bets.

Pun intended????Always, JAX. Puns are my middle name.

"Adventures of Smallville Forum"OMG! Aint THAT the truth. At least it'll never be boring here, eh?

In other words, I'd personally be reluctant to discount Ms. Pat or one of her (occasional) favorite partners in prose...uhhhh...whuzzzizzzname....jack something or other...mercy sakes, if only I could remember that guy's name.LOL!! :up:

Squatlow I miss your old sig :)Ditto! I miss it too. :(

If Lana loses her memory, I think the WWW might suffer from a major crash as everybody will be screaming through their keyboards.If they pull a memory reset, I swear I might just write a letter LOL.

I'm sorry, "Egregious Mythology Clashes" prevent me from commenting further...

Enjoy that Fog cereal with some Reckoning pancakes, folks...Eh, I'd rather have a Dozen pizzas. I'll leave the choice of toppings up to the chef, but keep the crust traditional, please. :up:

After reading that TV Guide interview, I'm not quite sure how much that 'Jonathan exchanging his life for Lana's' theory holds value. From Gough's statements, whomever dies stays dead.The person that stays dead is Jonathan, though I wouldn't rule out a flashback episode or two down the road.

Damn I hate deciphering Jack's stuff. I cant tell whether Lana or JK are the mythology clashes he's referring toWait! Jack was talking about the episode? ;)

Yeah, I'm with you, if anyone can explain that I would be forever in their debt.Well, I'd start with how the Brothers Warner gross a couple hundred million dollars off the SV franchise every year. It gets complicated after that. Really complicated.

Oh, and Muscles, for the love of SV fans everywhere, please STOP! :(

Spaceballs

01-23-2006, 03:30 PM

Oh, and Muscles, for the love of SV fans everywhere, please STOP! :(

Cant he get banned for posting SR stuff in the wrong place ? God I hope so (for the banning part) muscles should know mods made that against the rules but he did it anyway

Serene

01-23-2006, 04:02 PM

It was in one of the TV mag episode descriptions. Sorry I cant remember which one, but if I stumble across it again, I'll let you know. :O

Can you or Melly post a link, or just the text?

I don't remember reading that.

avidreader

01-23-2006, 04:10 PM

Can you or Melly post a link, or just the text?

I don't remember reading that.

Since I dont remember where it was or which mag, actually it was probably at Sweet that I read it but they fly through the threads over there so you'll never find it. If its okay I might hand it over to Melly. :)

mellyM

01-23-2006, 04:16 PM

Since I dont remember where it was or which mag, actually it was probably at Sweet that I read it but they fly through the threads over there so you'll never find it. If its okay I might hand it over to Melly. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallville_%28Season_5%29#Reckoning

there you go:)

avidreader

01-23-2006, 04:21 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallville_%28Season_5%29#Reckoning

there you go:)

Thanks Melly.

I wonder if Lois is moving back to the city because Jonathan's won the State Senate and she is going to be his right hand man/woman.

Just forget I said that.... knowing nothing about American politics or geography, makes one have dumb things come out of the keyboard. :O

Mister J

01-23-2006, 04:29 PM

I wonder if Lois is moving back to the city because Jonathan's won the State Senate and she is going to be his right hand man/woman.

in Metropolis?
:confused:

Zorex

01-23-2006, 06:04 PM

Yeah first with Lana, and next with Jonathan. Two deaths, twice the pain and emotion.
Ok, you meant the emotion. I read it waaaay too literally as "going to have to go through that clip/scene twice in the episode." Right...gotcha.:P

Wow, it's mere days away.

Spaceballs

01-23-2006, 06:28 PM

I'll be sad when Jonathan bites it. But for me its going to be VERY HARD to feel any kind of sad for when Lana bites it because as we know she'll be coming back.

Super_Ludacris

01-23-2006, 06:30 PM

Thank god for more Kristin Kreuk then

Serene

01-23-2006, 06:43 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallville_%28Season_5%29#Reckoning

there you go:)
Thanks, melly. :)

avidreader

01-23-2006, 06:46 PM

Ok, you meant the emotion. I read it waaaay too literally as "going to have to go through that clip/scene twice in the episode." Right...gotcha.:P

:up: ;)

Wow, it's mere days away.

And this westcoaster is definitely not coming into this forum, like I usually do, to read everything you all have to say.

If you see me here, tell me to go away. :D

Serene

01-23-2006, 07:36 PM

From the new trailer pics posted on www.kryptonsite.com (K-Site)

Dayumm... I hope ALL of that isn't supposed to be Lana's blood. Maybe leaking fuel too?
:(
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8745/smallville100thclip704ba.jpg

user123456789

01-23-2006, 08:05 PM

i can't make out what exactly is in that picture besides the upside down car..

ps: almost at 100 pages for this thread! (for me)

Kaboom

01-23-2006, 08:28 PM

looks like shdows

Spaceballs

01-23-2006, 08:29 PM

I see Lanas head & hand in that Picture & we know its Lana in the car thanks to the Trailers & 3 Minute Video

Zorex

01-23-2006, 11:15 PM

The Hurricane

01-23-2006, 11:27 PM

she wont die. Its probably the other person in the other seat. Probably who ever was with lana who was trying to escape from lex

Lt. Figgnuts

01-23-2006, 11:42 PM

she wont die. Its probably the other person in the other seat. Probably who ever was with lana who was trying to escape from lex

The video didn't make it look like she was with anybody...

Michael Corleone

01-24-2006, 12:00 AM

she wont die. Its probably the other person in the other seat. Probably who ever was with lana who was trying to escape from lex
Well there isnt any clue to someone being with her in the car. We even see her from a side view and you still dont see anyone in the car. Besides if that was the case then said person would have been sitting in Lana's lap because thats the driver side door she's laying out of.

Spaceballs

01-24-2006, 12:03 AM

Well there isnt any clue to someone being with her in the car. We even see her from a side view and you still dont see anyone in the car. Besides if that was the case then said person would have been sitting in Lana's lap because thats the driver side door she's laying out of.

No ones with Lana at Lexs house. She sneaks out of the Celebration Party & calls Clark while trying to lex the Mansion

NotFadeAway

01-24-2006, 01:35 AM

Holy **** Lana is really gonna bite it.....

Mister J

01-24-2006, 01:56 AM

Thursday can't get here fast enough.

Triligors

01-24-2006, 06:41 AM

If it is Jonathon, the best way to do it is that Jonathon dies at the political rally, while Clark is off tending to Lana.

This is REALLY confusing.

Super_Ludacris

01-24-2006, 08:06 AM

Nah, John-o's death got to be something spectacular

Kane

01-24-2006, 08:37 AM

I dont know if this was posted already. Im usually the last to know;

From vance: Did you see Tom Welling at TCA?
Yep. He came to talk about the 100th episode, which airs this Thursday. I've seen it, but I'll just let Tom tell you about it: "For us, this was a really exciting episode to shoot because it's a turning point, and I think from this episode on, the show is going to be very different from what it's been in the past. We're going to actually start seeing the Lex Luther and Clark Kent rivalry. It's going to start to explode a lot faster than it has in the past...The person who died, it was very bittersweet for that person themselves, because I think they were looking forward to a little time off. But when the day came, that person was caught a few times on set just kind of looking around, going, 'Yeah, well, I guess this is it, you know.' "

From Jen: Please give us info on Smallville. Who will bite the dust? Say it ain't Lana.
I spoke with Al Gough this week, and he would only say, "One of the characters in our opening credits dies...It was a hard decision and one that we did not take lightly. We talked about it for months before taking the plunge. But we do feel good about it now and feel that it's a necessity for where the show is heading. And you know, it's been five years and we haven't killed anyone. Lost is killing someone off every week. So, my actors are lucky! I think reality shows have raised the stakes and shown us that there do need to be consequences."

From snarkycole: Do you know who dies this week on Smallville? Please, tell me Chloe's safe...That's all I really need to know.
I'm pretty sure she's safe. I asked Al Gough why people always assume it's Chloe, and he said, "I think because she wasn't part of the original mythology, people always assume it's going to be her. She and Lana seem the best bets because we created them. But we have altered the mythology before, and this death doesn't necessarily have to play into what happens later on. And we love Allison Mack."

If theyre not gonna kill Chloe, I WILL! Just for the dellusional minds on the K-site board who want her to be Lois.

Kane

01-24-2006, 08:42 AM

However many fans stated that Brandon Routh was not there first choice, and that ultimately many fans wanted Tom Welling in the role, as stated by Welling himself at the Teen Choice Awards. In the end many fans of both Welling and the new Superman movie, feel that some sort of conspiracy occurred with the WB as to why he was not cast, which has led many fans having sour feelings towards Brandon. Welling it seems remains the top choice for Superman Returns in the eyes of many Superman Fans.

Muscles your losing ur edge. Wikipedia is full of biased prespectives since its fan submitted information. Its turning into the new imdb nowadays, just as unreliable. :down Conspiracy?...Jeez

Besides all of this is ancient history now. The actual movie is even finished filming.

Kane

01-24-2006, 08:43 AM

From the new trailer pics posted on www.kryptonsite.com (http://K-Site)

Dayumm... I hope ALL of that isn't supposed to be Lana's blood. Maybe leaking fuel too?
:(

Ill be disapointed if Lana's body is in one piece! :p

Spaceballs

01-24-2006, 08:50 AM

If it is Jonathon, the best way to do it is that Jonathon dies at the political rally, while Clark is off tending to Lana.

This is REALLY confusing.

But other Pictures show Jonathan there with Clark. I guess shortly after that happened news traveled quickly. I guess that Cheerleader got on her Cell Phone alerting her friends, who alerted her friends etc. Jonathan probably bites it during the Lionel Confrontation or Lionel beats him up pretty bad & Lionel leaves him for dead until Clark comes in. You know its funny that every time Clark goes to Jor El WILLINGLY for help something bad always happens after that. In this case its Jonathans death. Clark has quite the bad luck with good old dead dad.

Lt. Figgnuts

01-24-2006, 09:45 AM

Serene

01-24-2006, 10:10 AM

You know...

Lex saw Clark super-speed to the scene of the accident. That's another big shift...

...something tells me they're not going to go THAT far. Kill folks? Sure. Reveal Clark's secret to Lex for good? No way.

Also, permenantly kill off one of the most popular actresses on the show? Hmm..maybe, but I don't know...

Do you suppose this might be leading towards a Superman-esque scene in which Clark super-speeds around the world fast enough to turn back time? :o

Gee.. now there's an interesting speculation.. :rolleyes:

;) I'm just giving you grief, Figg. But that is something that has been very widely discussed here, and pretty much everywhere else.

I think it's not only possible, but very likely that some sort of time-reversal is going to happen. How far back he takes it, is the big question.

I keep hearing that Cher song whenever this is brought up!

*If I could turn back ti-ime..*

NHawk19

01-24-2006, 10:10 AM

Spaceballs

01-24-2006, 10:16 AM

I seriously doubt he'd turn back time given the fact that he cant even fly yet.

I doubt EW would have given this a B+ if that happened & the fact that this Episode is supposed to 100 % COMPLETELY CHANGE THE SHOW after this. I can imagine Clark going to Jor El to revive Lana, Jonathan but turning back time is a BIG NO NO. You would think with a SERIOUS Episode they would stay away from crazy things like that & not give it stuff to laugh at

Kane

01-24-2006, 10:25 AM

There better not be time reversal. Thatd be beyond lame.

Kaboom

01-24-2006, 10:26 AM

Gee.. now there's an interesting speculation.. :rolleyes:

;) I'm just giving you grief, Figg. But that is something that has been very widely discussed here, and pretty much everywhere else.

I think it's not only possible, but very likely that some sort of time-reversal is going to happen. How far back he takes it, is the big question.

I keep hearing that Cher song whenever this is brought up!

*If I could turn back ti-ime..*

then i could find a way, to take back all those things about krypton, i heard you say...if i could reach the stars (not that i can fly, but you know...if)...id gve them all to you (not that i could really move a star...heh)...and youd love me love me love me like you used to do (like when i lost my powers and it was hot)

musclesforsupes

01-24-2006, 10:33 AM

If Lana or Ma go I will be really mad!

Serene

01-24-2006, 10:34 AM

then i could find a way, to take back all those things about krypton, i heard you say...if i could reach the stars (not that i can fly, but you know...if)...id gve them all to you (not that i could really move a star...heh)...and youd love me love me love me like you used to do (like when i lost my powers and it was hot)

ROFL!!! :up:

Kaboom

01-24-2006, 10:39 AM

i try to make funnies. thanks for letting me know i succeeded serene!

YEA 100! PAGES. WOOT!

Lt. Figgnuts

01-24-2006, 12:20 PM

I doubt EW would have given this a B+ if that happened & the fact that this Episode is supposed to 100 % COMPLETELY CHANGE THE SHOW after this. I can imagine Clark going to Jor El to revive Lana, Jonathan but turning back time is a BIG NO NO. You would think with a SERIOUS Episode they would stay away from crazy things like that & not give it stuff to laugh at

I dunno...from the look of that clip, Clark super-speeds right in front of Lex...killing off characters is one thing, but that is a HUGE change. If the writers actually go through with that without any kind of memory wipe on Lex's part, I will be GREATLY impressed.

EDIT: I dunno, though. This clip makes it look as though Lana got into the car accident because Lex was chasing her trying to find out Clark's secret...that means her death is essentially Clark's fault as well as Lex's. At least, that's how Clark might look at it...so it gives him a reason both to hate Lex and to become Superman, I guess? I dunno...just seems a bit too contrived, to me.

Also, time travel does not automatically equal laughs. Depends on how it's handled, for the most part.

Red

01-24-2006, 12:27 PM

is their a downloadable trailer out?

avidreader

01-24-2006, 01:13 PM

triplet

01-24-2006, 01:48 PM

is their a downloadable trailer out?

Find it here, just right click on this and save target as...

http://raincloud.warnerbros.com/thewb/us/content/G7gd6Q_SM512-trl_qt_300.mov

If you also want to peek at the scene with Lex and Lana and her calling Clark... very spoilery, just do the right click and save again:

http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/aoltelevision/2006/wb/smallville/smallville_episode_512_preview_dl.mov

Mike_D202

01-24-2006, 02:00 PM

2 days :D

Spaceballs

01-24-2006, 02:01 PM

This clip makes it look as though Lana got into the car accident because Lex was chasing her trying to find out Clark's secret...that means her death is essentially Clark's fault as well as Lex's.

Actually I blame Lanas death on Lana. Lex was drunk at that time granted but had Lana NOT snuck out of the Celebration Party & she stayed with Clark & the Kents NONE of that would have NEVER happened to begin with. Sure while the accitdent is Lexs fault but Lana is ultimately the one to blame. She left that party (IN SECRET) on her own free will. So technically there is only one person to blame for Lanas death & that is Lana & if a girl I (proposed to) SECRETLY left to see another guy when that could have easily have waited until the next day Id question her :p The least she could have done is TOLD Clark she was leaving & Lana does not even do that. So really the one to blame is LANA herself & also that same day Clark told Lana the biggest secret anyone can ever know & Lana STILL can NOT trust Clark to tell him she has to leave & take care of something but she sneaks out. Lana & Clark still have issues. But like I said the person to blame for Lanas death is Lana. She didnt trust Clark to tell him that she was at least leaving.

Super_Ludacris

01-24-2006, 02:04 PM

Do you post at K-site with that logic

Zorex

01-24-2006, 02:05 PM

wooo, Chloe gonna live. Live, Chloe, Live!

[yes, yes, I know...for now...]

Spaceballs

01-24-2006, 02:07 PM

Do you post at K-site with that logic

Never registered at K-site, never have & never will

Red

01-24-2006, 02:45 PM

Find it here, just right click on this and save target as...

http://raincloud.warnerbros.com/thewb/us/content/G7gd6Q_SM512-trl_qt_300.mov

If you also want to peek at the scene with Lex and Lana and her calling Clark... very spoilery, just do the right click and save again:

http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/aoltelevision/2006/wb/smallville/smallville_episode_512_preview_dl.mov

Thanks trip :up:

avidreader

01-24-2006, 03:30 PM

I just saw this over at Ksite, and thought I would post it for your information. The post number I'm referring to is post number 10 and check out 45 while your at it.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49363

Lt. Figgnuts

01-24-2006, 03:31 PM

Actually I blame Lanas death on Lana. Lex was drunk at that time granted but had Lana NOT snuck out of the Celebration Party & she stayed with Clark & the Kents NONE of that would have NEVER happened to begin with. Sure while the accitdent is Lexs fault but Lana is ultimately the one to blame. She left that party (IN SECRET) on her own free will. So technically there is only one person to blame for Lanas death & that is Lana & if a girl I (proposed to) SECRETLY left to see another guy when that could have easily have waited until the next day Id question her :p The least she could have done is TOLD Clark she was leaving & Lana does not even do that. So really the one to blame is LANA herself & also that same day Clark told Lana the biggest secret anyone can ever know & Lana STILL can NOT trust Clark to tell him she has to leave & take care of something but she sneaks out. Lana & Clark still have issues. But like I said the person to blame for Lanas death is Lana. She didnt trust Clark to tell him that she was at least leaving.

This may very well be true...but would Clark see it that way?

If he had never told her his secret, would she still have snuck out? Even if she had, would Lex have realized that she knew the secret and chased her to find out?

Look at it from Clark's perspective. Not the logical one.

JAX

01-24-2006, 03:40 PM

I just saw this over at Ksite, and thought I would post it for your information. The post number I'm referring to is post number 10.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49363

" It's kind of fun to watch all of you screw yourselves up when the answer is just so easy."

Hmmm.....wonder if he's talking about the answer being as easy as Jonathan Kent? And people are screwing themselves up thinking its Lana or Chloe. That's what I make of it.

triplet

01-24-2006, 03:46 PM

Thanks trip :up:

:D

You're welcome....

avidreader

01-24-2006, 03:46 PM

" It's kind of fun to watch all of you screw yourselves up when the answer is just so easy."

Hmmm.....wonder if he's talking about the answer being as easy as Jonathan Kent? And people are screwing themselves up thinking its Lana or Chloe. That's what I make of it.

I'm not sure what to think of it, but I thought it was interesting enough to post. And I think he's a she. ;)

JAX

01-24-2006, 03:48 PM

And I think he's a she. ;)

The she's always have good info:up:

KalKai

01-24-2006, 03:49 PM

Episodes like this 1 should get leaked on the internet.

Are you kidding me!!!

Smallville's 100th episode promises to be a night that you will never forget!

I finished watching the episode, and I was absolutely blown away.

I was rendered speechless!!! I was hyperventalating some of the time too!

It was one of the most phenomenol episode I've ever seen of any television show in my entire life!

The death is so very powerful and it's such a strong scene. I went through 3 whole, 2 ply with lotion tissue boxes and even then it was unbelievable!

Tom Welling really shows his full potential as you are almost sucked in and enveloped in Clark's sadness for this character.

This episode truly is THE ONE YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST SEE!!!

*Those scenes that you saw in the "forbidden" videos (Clark telling Lana the truth, Clark's proposal in the Fortress of Solitude, Lex and Lana scene in the mansion) are only parts of those scenes*

YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET AND SMALLVILLE IS ABOUT TO GO THROUGH A MAJOR CHANGE.

THE BALANCE OF POWER HAS BEEN SHIFTED

So jealous.

Serene

01-24-2006, 03:51 PM

Look at it from Clark's perspective. Not the logical one.

You make a valid point about looking at things from Clark's perspective. However, I have to disagree (strongly) that the Spaceball scenario and conclusion are logical.

avidreader

01-24-2006, 03:56 PM

The she's always have good info:up:

Being part of that group I'll take that as a compliment. :)

Kalkai, its only two more days, two more. Hang in there!

Serene

01-24-2006, 04:09 PM

I'm not sure what to think of it, but I thought it was interesting enough to post. And I think he's a she. ;)
Perhaps someone should PM her and invite her to join us :)

Avid..you do it. You're much nicer than I am. :O

Kaboom

01-24-2006, 04:13 PM

we are pretty much the "super-est" smallville forum around. not that i have a biased opinion or anything.

join us...lol....

Super_Ludacris

01-24-2006, 04:15 PM

That Lana_Lana #1 is really selling it lol

avidreader

01-24-2006, 04:19 PM

Perhaps someone should PM her and invite her to join us :)

Avid..you do it. You're much nicer than I am. :O

Done! :D

Serene

01-24-2006, 04:20 PM

join us...lol....

That sounds scary. :eek:

But I agree.. the Super-est forum evah! ;)

Sorry, I'm just freaking a bit after reading what that poster wrote about the ep. Only TWO days! I'm excited, I'm nervous.. I'm.. GAHHH!

I need to go lay down for a bit, I think.:O