Reckoning Discussion Thread (100th episode, Spoilers)

[KalKai]

Discuss. :D

[triplet]

Reckoning? Cool title? Where was that, on k-site?

[avidreader]

Reckoning? Cool title? Where was that, on k-site?

Yep.

[mellyM]

Yep.
Reckoning..how perfect....damn...I'm so not looknig forward to the death...guess I'll be investing in kleenix

[avidreader]

Reckoning..how perfect....damn...I'm so not looknig forward to the death...guess I'll be investing in kleenix

I dont think I'm going to be able to keep away from those spoilers. :O

[Serene]

I dont think I'm going to be able to keep away from those spoilers. :O
I don't even try. Why kid myself? LOL..

I am glad that the spoilers aren't always 100% accurate though. It's nice to have a smidge of doubt about them.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

The death WILL happen the 100th Episode. They gotta do something Amazing to keep us talking during Winter Break.

[avidreader]

I don't even try. Why kid myself? LOL..

I am glad that the spoilers aren't always 100% accurate though. It's nice to have a smidge of doubt about them.

I was gonna try real hard for the 100th epi. But I'm one of these people that read the last couple of pages of a book, so I dont know who I'm trying to kid either. :rolleyes:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I'd kinda be laughing a little if its Martha that dies. I mean here we are speculating every other Character dying & yet spoilers say she gets an Disease from Krypton & fine will KNOW that she HAS the Disease. But if it is Martha that dies as an after effect or something Im just gonna be laughing at how we all speculated like nuts :p The big death has to be Alien explination & Martha fits that with what we know so far. Then again Fine probably will heal her or since all Fine does is CONVINCES CLARK TO DESTROY THE FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE. So Fine does NOTHING & then later Clark finds out through like Jor El or something that Fine could have saved Martha but did NOT so Martha dies & Clark goes after Fine.

[triplet]

I think Fine will heal Martha, he'd probably love to undo something Jor-El has done....

I don't think it's Martha, her illness isn't very close to the 100th ep anyway...

[OobeDoobBenubi]

We don't hear much of Martha in Spoilers. She could stay in the Hospital Healing or like I said die as an After Effect from Fines Healing. It can NOT get any Darker then Martha being fine for a while then all of a sudden dying because of what Fine did.

[KalKai]

Martha won't be the 1, Gough said that she plays a BIG part in the 2nd part of the season.

[muscaremy]

so what hes not gonna tell the truth bout everything

[Brainiac 8]

I was gonna try real hard for the 100th epi. But I'm one of these people that read the last couple of pages of a book, so I dont know who I'm trying to kid either. :rolleyes:

That's funny Avid, I do the same thing. It drives my wife crazy! I have a hard time with spoilers, I love looking at them, but my wife doesn't want to know anything in advance, so I'm not alloud to talk to her about what I read. It's very hard not to.

I was going to try and not read spoilers for this year, but I failed, so I'm not going to kid myself.:D

[avidreader]

That's funny Avid, I do the same thing. It drives my wife crazy! I have a hard time with spoilers, I love looking at them, but my wife doesn't want to know anything in advance, so I'm not alloud to talk to her about what I read. It's very hard not to.

I was going to try and not read spoilers for this year, but I failed, so I'm not going to kid myself.:D

I think we're part of a very big club. Reading spoilers, last pages of books, just encourages me to want to see how the whole story pans out even more.

[The Caped Knight]

I expect this episode to be a Jam Packed SUPERMAN Mythology episode . And some Major character development For Clark , From (The farmboy to The Man Of Steel) in his character. For Lois to start her Journey in becoming The Ace Reporter for The Daily Planet. And More of Future badass Lex Luthor.

[Red]

I'm hoping for Fine's return in this episode.

[avidreader]

I wonder when they will be filming this episode.

It seems that they just finished Lexmas, and maybe they've done a bit of Fanatic.

[triplet]

I wonder when they will be filming this episode.

They've completed filming of the 100th episode.

(I heard something from a little birdie I know about a huge party they threw to celebrate the event a week or so ago...)


It seems that they just finished Lexmas, and maybe they've done a bit of Fanatic.

Why? Because of the photos and stuff surfacing? That's not really a good indication of when they have completed filming.

They had all that stuff with Exposed the weeks leading up to its airing but it was probably filmed in late September/Early October but it didn't air until a few weeks ago.

[avidreader]

They've completed filming of the 100th episode.

(I heard something from a little birdie I know about a huge party they threw to celebrate the event a week or so ago...)

Can you PM me the details. :D Please.




Why? Because of the photos and stuff surfacing? That's not really a good indication of when they have completed filming.

They had all that stuff with Exposed the weeks leading up to its airing but it was probably filmed in late September/Early October but it didn't air until a few weeks ago.

I dunno why I thought that, I just did. ;)

[triplet]

Can you PM me the details. :D Please.

No, I'm sorry I can't... I was told the details on condition of keeping them to myself.

So I can't say more...

I don't want to tease but I wouldn't have said anything all except for the fact that I don't think letting out that I know they indeed had a party was specific enough to constitute breaking my promise. Or at least I hope not.

[avidreader]

No, I'm sorry I can't... I was told the details on condition of keeping them to myself.

So I can't say more...

I don't want to tease but I wouldn't have said anything all except for the fact that I don't think letting out that I know they indeed had a party was specific enough to constitute breaking my promise. Or at least I hope not.

Well you are a big tease, arent you. :p :D

[KalKai]

what do you know exactly triplet? details about the episode or just about the party?

[triplet]

All I can say is that there was a party to celebrate the completion of the episode. I did get some details of the party but I can't tell you about them... I'm sorry I brought it up.

I really don't want to be a tease, but I have to protect the details or the little birdie will never tell me anything ever again...

But I can tell you that the info I got didn't include anything on the episode itself... Sorry. :( I wish it had.

[Brainiac 8]

All I can say is that there was a party to celebrate the completion of the episode. I did get some details of the party but I can't tell you about them... I'm sorry I brought it up.

I really don't want to be a tease, but I have to protect the details or the little birdie will never tell me anything ever again...

But I can tell you that the info I got didn't include anything on the episode itself... Sorry. :( I wish it had.


DOH!!!:mad: :D

[avidreader]

I'm sure we'll get to some pictures in the Smallville magazine after the episode airs.

[KalKai]

Tom Welling In The Hollywood Reporter
Special thanks to: Anh (http://www.anh-nguyen.com/) The Nov. 21 edition of The Hollywood Reporter contains a photo of Tom Welling at a celebration honoring Smallville's 100th episode with network executives Peter Roth and David Janollari.
If anyone gets a copy and can send us a scan, e-mail us (planetkrypton@aol.com).



Go buy it somebody. :D


report about the party: http://www.allisonmackonline.com/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=15

[The Incredible Hulk]

I think Pat may have an online subscription to that but I'm not sure

[AgentPat]

I think Pat may have an online subscription to that but I'm not sureI have a subscription to Variety only, which includes on-line access. Of the two trades, I prefer Variety, and just don't have the coin for both. LOL

I can pick up a copy of HR tomorrow though. Thanks for the head's up, KalKai! :D

Anyhoo, it's WAY past my bed time. Cya's tomorrow....

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/goodnight.gif

[GinaRenee]

I have a subscription to Variety only, which includes on-line access.

You do? Did you see the article about Allison on "E.R."? I haven't watched that show since, oh, about 1995 (and I only watched it once then). :) I want to know when to look for her.

[AgentPat]

You do? Did you see the article about Allison on "E.R."? I haven't watched that show since, oh, about 1995 (and I only watched it once then). :) I want to know when to look for her.Allison Mack? There was an article about her in Variety? It must not have mentioned SV (unless the article was just posted?), 'cause I don't remember seeing it?

I've got every print issue for like ... oh, I dunno... the last four years or so. I can also jump on the site and look something up at any time, so I'll be happy to dig something up for you if you give me the search specifics (names and approximate dates if the search is likely to pull up a ton of results.) :)

[GinaRenee]

All I know is that it was very recent -- possibly even the latest issue -- and that it said she's going to be guest-starring on "E.R." in the near future. The news page at http://www.allisonmackonline.com mentioned it, but it was only hearsay, because apparently no one there had actually been able to get hold of a copy. I haven't either, so thanks for checking!

[AgentPat]

All I know is that it was very recent -- possibly even the latest issue -- and that it said she's going to be guest-starring on "E.R." in the near future. The news page at http://www.allisonmackonline.com mentioned it, but it was only hearsay, because apparently no one there had actually been able to get hold of a copy. I haven't either, so thanks for checking!Hmm. Well, I just plugged her name into their search engine. Nothing. Nada. Only mention is as a cast member for SV, and a few things she did a LONG time ago. Nothing recent. Maybe her fan site meant Hollywood Reporter, not Variety?

[AgentPat]

If you can find out which print issue the report was in, I'll dig through my copies at home. :)

[GinaRenee]

Hmm. Well, I just plugged her name into their search engine. Nothing. Nada. Only mention is as a cast member for SV, and a few things she did a LONG time ago. Nothing recent. Maybe her fan site meant Hollywood Reporter, not Variety?

Could be. I'm afraid I don't know which print issue to tell you to look in. I haven't been to K-site in so long that I wouldn't know where to start looking for the post about it over there -- and even if I did, I don't really want to start going over there again! Sorry.

I guess we can always wait a while and see if other publications mention it.

[AgentPat]

This un's for Gina...

Question: I saw the Dukes of Hazzard movie and it can’t compare to the TV series. What is the original Bo Duke, John Schneider, doing now?
—Avery Auerbach, Eurgene, Ore.

Answer: Since 2001, Schneider has starred as teenage Superman’s dad on the hit TV series Smallville. He loves the role because of its positive portrayal of parenthood, which reflects some of his own values. “I like the fact that the young man comes to his parents for advice, and he takes it,” he says. “It says that parents are important.” Schneider and his wife, Elly, raise their three children (two from her previous marriage) in California’s San Fernando Valley. He also can be seen in an upcoming WB network Movie of the Week, Felicity: An American Girl Adventure, which airs Nov. 29.

http://www.americanprofile.com/issues/20051120/20051120_4901.asp

[GinaRenee]

Oh, bless you! I saw that in print but couldn't find the online version. People have been asking me to scan it, and now I won't have to. (Which is especially good because I don't know how to use our scanner.) Thanks!

[mellyM]

Hmm. Well, I just plugged her name into their search engine. Nothing. Nada. Only mention is as a cast member for SV, and a few things she did a LONG time ago. Nothing recent. Maybe her fan site meant Hollywood Reporter, not Variety?
It was mentioned on a message board, and I'm not really sure that person was being very honest. I see nothing in Variety online at all

[The Incredible Hulk]

http://www.themakeupgallery.info/image/weird/teeth/horrible5.jpg

ER? Get this girl to a dentist! :D ;) :p

[GinaRenee]

It was mentioned on a message board, and I'm not really sure that person was being very honest.

That's weird if true. Why would they make it up? Wishful thinking?

Of course, people have made up things even stranger than that on message boards!

[AgentPat]

Ah, okie dokey. Well, if somebody posts something more to go on at those sites (issue date would be a nice start LOL), I'll be happy to scan it.

No prob on that article, Gina. I just happen to come across it this morning and thought of you. ;)

[avidreader]

Someone actually posted the news on this site, regarding Allison Mack being in Er, it was the Has Chloe Touched Your Heart thread. Once I get out of this thread I'll go and see if I can find it.

It could have been a rumour that was dropped to make us think she was exiting Smallville.

Oh, and thanks for that link to AMOL Kalkai. I was wondering if the Hollywood reporter was a magazine or a TV show. Now I know. I'll see if I can find the magazine while I'm out today.

Okay found it!

Desperately looking for a Chloe-centric thread to say:

Alison Mack signed on to do 4 episode of ER next season!!! Congrats to Mack. I read it over at TWOP. But I'll try to find a link of the real source.

And no, I don't think that means that Chloe dies.

[Red]

http://www.themakeupgallery.info/image/weird/teeth/horrible5.jpg

ER? Get this girl to a dentist! :D ;) :p

thats Alison Mack?

[Super_Ludacris]

That pic still makes me laugh

[Red]

Chloe: Come on Clark what does Lana have, that i don't?

[Super_Ludacris]

Chloe: Come on Clark what does Lana have, that i don't?


Clark: (in a Chris Rock voice) "Real teeth *****!!!!!!!!":eek:

[triplet]

Tom Welling In The Hollywood Reporter

Special thanks to: Anh (http://www.anh-nguyen.com/) The Nov. 21 edition of The Hollywood Reporter contains a photo of Tom Welling at a celebration honoring Smallville's 100th episode with network executives Peter Roth and David Janollari.


If anyone gets a copy and can send us a scan, e-mail us (planetkrypton@aol.com).









Go buy it somebody. :D




report about the party: http://www.allisonmackonline.com/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=15

Actually, the AMO article seems to be from the same source I heard the skinny on that party from (second hand) so maybe the info isn't all that private anymore...

[Red]

great review triplet

[The Incredible Hulk]

thats Alison Mack?


yup, isnt she shoooooo shweeeet?

[avidreader]

I was just thinking, that if John Glover was the one to kick the bucket in this episode, you'd think he would have turned up to spend one last night with his fellow cast and crew.

[Brainiac 8]

I was just thinking, that if John Glover was the one to kick the bucket in this episode, you'd think he would have turned up to spend one last night with his fellow cast and crew.


Or not shown up because he was upset for being killed off.:O

[GinaRenee]

Do we even know for sure that they finished filming the episode before the party, though? I heard that sometimes casts have these parties in the middle of filming. If that's the case, whoever was or wasn't there might not have any significance at all.

[Red]

I was just thinking, that if John Glover was the one to kick the bucket in this episode, you'd think he would have turned up to spend one last night with his fellow cast and crew.

I don't want Lional killed yet.

I've always hoped that Lex would be the one to do the deed, (Vortex kind of hinted at it). The Son killing the father and that being the turning point for lex.

[Red]

bump

[Brainiac 8]

I don't want Lional killed yet.

I've always hoped that Lex would be the one to do the deed, (Vortex kind of hinted at it). The Son killing the father and that being the turning point for lex.

I still think Lex will be the one to do the deed.;)

[avidreader]

I found this from Kristen on Line

Who's gonna die on Smallville? Please say it isn't Chloe! Everyone thinks it is.
I'm hearing that Chloe is safe, even though rumors are swirling that more than one death is going to go down.

Make of it what you will.

[triplet]

Here is a tidbit from EW:

Issue #853
..

Time to Kill

Why TV is suddenly nuts about death -- We examine recent killings on ''Las Vegas,'' ''Desperate Housewives,'' and others by Jennifer Armstrong

Dearly beloved, we are gathered here to mourn what appears to be the loss of yet another TV character: George (Roger Bart), Desperate Housewives' murderous pharmacist. We should also mention the recent passings of Monica (Lara Flynn Boyle) on Las Vegas and Shannon (Maggie Grace) on Lost, plus the seemingly dead Abruzzi (Peter Stormare) on Prison Break and Vaughn (Michael Vartan) on Alias.

Why the rampant loss of life? Ratings (of course), buzz, and the chance to embark on a new creative direction. ''Usually you see somebody in the main titles and you think, 'They're not going to die.' That's not the case anymore,'' says Smallville co-creator Al Gough, who is offing a ''big'' character on the show's 100th episode in January. TV's body count will grow this spring when Everwood creator Greg Berlanti co-writes the swan song for a main cast member. ''It's hard for character-driven shows to stand out, so this is one way to do that,'' he says. On the bright side, it gives ghost whisperer Jennifer Love Hewitt a slew of new people to communicate with.

(Posted:12/02/05)



The article was posted here (http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1136274_3|111142||0_0_,00.html) but you have to be a subscriber to read the whole thing. I am a subscriber, so I copied here for everyone but then I noticed that they're being dumb... It's like only one sentence that was all that was missing from the partial article to the version I posted above but it was the one with the punch line.... :D

[TheGoonies]

I can picture the TV Spots now. I can bet they will kinda be like the spots for Splinter

You know a female type robotic repeative voice

"someone will die, someone will die" with shots of the cast besides the obvious & repeating each word over & over again etc like how they did in splinter & each spot ends with Clarks infamous

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOO

[NHawk19]

Well we know it cant be clark that gets killed . . . .again hehe:( I really think they just like adding fuel to the fire.

But I'm sticking w/ Chloe JK and Lionel as being on the block w/ Chloe winning the most likely to die award.

[GinaRenee]

I can picture the TV Spots now. I can bet they will kinda be like the spots for Splinter

You know a female type robotic repeative voice

"someone will die, someone will die" with shots of the cast besides the obvious & repeating each word over & over again etc like how they did in splinter & each spot ends with Clarks infamous

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOO

I think you've probably got it about right. :D They'll milk it for all they're worth.

[avidreader]

Well we know it cant be clark that gets killed . . . .again hehe:( I really think they just like adding fuel to the fire.

But I'm sticking w/ Chloe JK and Lionel as being on the block w/ Chloe winning the most likely to die award.

You know with these spoilers that are released post this episode, I think I'm going along with you. Chloe's character's death could actually start the ball rolling for alot more other characters to progress.

[Brainiac 8]

You know with these spoilers that are released post this episode, I think I'm going along with you. Chloe's character's death could actually start the ball rolling for alot more other characters to progress.


I don't know, my monies still on Jonothan. But whatever the outcome, you know that the producers are just having a ball, watching the speculation and laughing at us.

No matter who the major character to bite it is, I think Lionel will be one of the ones to go either way.

[avidreader]

I don't know, my monies still on Jonothan. But whatever the outcome, you know that the producers are just having a ball, watching the speculation and laughing at us.

No matter who the major character to bite it is, I think Lionel will be one of the ones to go either way.

I'm thinking Lionel is one of them too, and I thought Jor-el as well, but I just feel Clark still needs Jor-el to learn more about Krypton and other stuff. :) It could be Jonathan, but it just screams obvious.

It surprised me reading the Season 3 Companion, how much notice they actually do take of these internet sites. PTB I hope you are having a great time watching all of us knock our heads on this one.

[Brainiac 8]

I'm thinking Lionel is one of them too, and I thought Jor-el as well, but I just feel Clark still needs Jor-el to learn more about Krypton and other stuff. :) It could be Jonathan, but it just screams obvious.

It surprised me reading the Season 3 Companion, how much notice they actually do take of these internet sites. PTB I hope you are having a great time watching all of us knock our heads on this one.

Especially if you think about the discussions we have had here. All of the regulars here and some not so regular have given their opinion as to who will be offed. "Most" of them have also had some great, logical, valid reasons as to why they think that it could be their choice. With all the good explanations, we are no closer to coming up with an answer than we were at the beginning of the announcement.

PTB really have done a good job with this secret, because they have made it hard to peg the answer. All we have been able to do is say who we know it is NOT, and I'm not so sure how certain we are with some of those.

*claps* good job ol' chaps.:up: :)

[Red]

I'm thinking Lionel is one of them too, and I thought Jor-el as well, but I just feel Clark still needs Jor-el to learn more about Krypton and other stuff. :) It could be Jonathan, but it just screams obvious.

It surprised me reading the Season 3 Companion, how much notice they actually do take of these internet sites. PTB I hope you are having a great time watching all of us knock our heads on this one.

By the end of the series i'm pritty sure Lionel won't survive, hes top on the list with Jonathan.

[avidreader]

By the end of the series i'm pritty sure Lionel won't survive, hes top on the list with Jonathan.

That's the end of the series, we're up to the 100th episode and someone's gonna go.

The only one I can say it wont be with absolute conviction, is Clark.

[The Incredible Hulk]

wouldnt that blow everyone's mind....

maybe then Chloe gets a sex change goes to Jor-El and has him make her Kryptonian and then she takes on Clark's name to honor him [/sarcasm] ;) :p

[Kaboom]

wouldnt that blow everyone's mind....

maybe then Chloe gets a sex change goes to Jor-El and has him make her Kryptonian and then she takes on Clark's name to honor him [/sarcasm] ;) :p

you could be onto something!

[Brainiac 8]

wouldnt that blow everyone's mind....

maybe then Chloe gets a sex change goes to Jor-El and has him make her Kryptonian and then she takes on Clark's name to honor him [/sarcasm] ;) :p

Sorry Hulk, they have probably already come up with that theory on K-Site. That is how they think it'll get rid of Evil Clark.:p

[avidreader]

Sorry Hulk, they have probably already come up with that theory on K-Site. That is how they think it'll get rid of Evil Clark.:p

LOL! I was going to say he should go and post that theory on the Ksite Boards, but you've more or less beat me to it. :D

In any case, its a sound theory, 'cause how on earth can Clark possibly become the man that he is supposed to become when to date they have not shown him to act like the future Superman in any manner whatsoever. :p

[avidreader]

Okay, I thought this was interesting to be popping up at this particular point in time. Just go down a little bit to read about the Timeline.

http://www.allisonmackonline.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=185

[rumpuso]

wouldnt that blow everyone's mind....

maybe then Chloe gets a sex change goes to Jor-El and has him make her Kryptonian and then she takes on Clark's name to honor him [/sarcasm] ;) :p
Makes about as much sense as that other ridiculous notion that won't die. (I do get your sarcasm).

[musclesforsupes]

So whats the latest news? Is it
1. Chloe
2. Pa Kent
3. Lionel?

[AgentPat]

So whats the latest news? Is it
1. Chloe
2. Pa Kent
3. Lionel?Breaking news, Muscles, it'll be Shelby.

;)

[Brainiac 8]

Breaking news, Muscles, it'll be Shelby.

;)

But Pat...I thought they announced last week that it was actually going to be...

...HENRY SMALLS...guess we didn't see that coming.;)

[AgentPat]

But Pat...I thought they announced last week that it was actually going to be...

...HENRY SMALLS...guess we didn't see that coming.;)He's the other death. Remember, there's TWO! :D

[NHawk19]

I thought the spoilers said Ezra but Henry wow that is a shock.

Next thing you'll tell me Lex buys the Talon.

[Pixiedust]

wouldnt that blow everyone's mind....

maybe then Chloe gets a sex change goes to Jor-El and has him make her Kryptonian and then she takes on Clark's name to honor him [/sarcasm] ;) :p


Sarcasm duly noted. Thanks for the best laugh I've had all day.

[avidreader]

I thought the spoilers said Ezra but Henry wow that is a shock.

Next thing you'll tell me Lex buys the Talon.


But which one does Clark love the most? :confused:

[avidreader]

I posted this in the Erica Durance Thread, but I thought I would post part of the interview that was pertinent to this thread in here as well.

TVGuide.com: There has been much buzz about the announced 100th episode's death. Is it safe to say that it won't be Lois, since we see her in the Superman movies?
Durance: The only thing that could happen to Lois is if she decided to leave Smallville for a long time, but I haven't gotten wind of that yet, so... I think she's safe for a while, which means that I have my job for a while, which is nice.
TVGuide.com: Do you know who is being killed off?
Durance: Do I know? Yes.
TVGuide.com: But you're sworn to all kinds and flavors of secrecy, eh?
Durance: Yes, I am, unfortunately. If I do , Lois will make a quick trip to Europe! [Laughs] So I'm not going to say anything.
[B]TVGuide.com: Will it be worth the buzz, though?
Durance: I believe people will be very, very impressed. I think they've done a very, very good job with it.
TVGuide.com: There is speculation that WB is releasing false spoilers for after that episode, to mislead fans into thinking they know who's still alive — like Chloe, for example.
Durance: I've traveled around and done conventions, and it's a really big deal — people have all their theories and try to get it out of you — so I'm not surprised if the guys at the top are trying to throw people off.

[Tim Drake]

Whos Henry Smalls again? Are are you guys joking or is that a legitimate death?

[triplet]

Henry "Small" is Lana's biological father, whom we haven't seen since Season 2 when his storylines went no where so he went the way of Aunt Nell and has never been seen again.

[Tim Drake]

Is it legitimate news that hes dying? Or just a joke?

[avidreader]

TVGuide.com: There has been much buzz about the announced 100th episode's death. Is it safe to say that it won't be Lois, since we see her in the Superman movies?
Durance: The only thing that could happen to Lois is if she decided to leave Smallville for a long time, but I haven't gotten wind of that yet, so... I think she's safe for a while, which means that I have my job for a while, which is nice.
TVGuide.com: Do you know who is being killed off?
Durance: Do I know? Yes.
TVGuide.com: But you're sworn to all kinds and flavors of secrecy, eh?
Durance: Yes, I am, unfortunately. If I do , Lois will make a quick trip to Europe! [Laughs] So I'm not going to say anything.
[B]TVGuide.com: Will it be worth the buzz, though?
Durance: I believe people will be very, very impressed. I think they've done a very, very good job with it.
TVGuide.com: There is speculation that WB is releasing false spoilers for after that episode, to mislead fans into thinking they know who's still alive — like Chloe, for example.
Durance: I've traveled around and done conventions, and it's a really big deal — people have all their theories and try to get it out of you — so I'm not surprised if the guys at the top are trying to throw people off.


Quoting myself here, cause I wanted this bit of info to be on the current page.

I thought her comments on the fake spoilers was very interesting, since it has been the topic of much conversation lately. ;)

Chloe fans, I dont think your girl is 100% safe. :D

[Brainiac 8]

Is it legitimate news that hes dying? Or just a joke?

I was just joking. He is one of the characters that got thrown in limbo when the writers were done with him. (ala: Nell, Lucas, and Pete.)

[avidreader]

I was just joking. He is one of the characters that got thrown in limbo when the writers were done with him. (ala: Nell, Lucas, and Pete.)

I think Craig mentioned on his spoilers for Fanatic, that Lex is throwing a birthday party at the Mansion for Lucas.

[triplet]

OMG! Craig has screen caps of a new trailer.

The images start here:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/everything2-1.htm

But later he has images of Clark at the graveyard...

http://www.kryptonsite.com/everything2-55.htm

OMG!

Will it really be like the end of January until we see this episode?

[Serene]

OMG!

Will it really be like the end of January until we see this episode?
I'm entirely too freaked out about this. Do TPTB not understand the stress they're causing me???

At least Clark looks amazing at that graveside. Speaking of which, that's one tiny coffin. ****.

[Tron5000]

Speaking of people leaving the show, I just started watching this season, and so far I've seen all of Season 5 and most of 1 and 2 in reruns. What happened to Pete? I haven't heard about him in Season 5, and he's still alive and well in the reruns I watch...

[tonytr1687]

Speaking of people leaving the show, I just started watching this season, and so far I've seen all of Season 5 and most of 1 and 2 in reruns. What happened to Pete? I haven't heard about him in Season 5, and he's still alive and well in the reruns I watch...

Pete moved to Wichita with his mom at the end of Season 3 b/c he couldn't bare to live with himself if he accidentally exposed Clark. So he thought moving away from Clark would prevent that. This was also after he had just been interrogated and tortured by an FBI agent on Clark's trail. You really should watch all the prior seasons if you really want to get a grasp on everything happening in Season 5.

[triplet]

Speaking of people leaving the show, I just started watching this season, and so far I've seen all of Season 5 and most of 1 and 2 in reruns. What happened to Pete? I haven't heard about him in Season 5, and he's still alive and well in the reruns I watch...

Pete is alive and well and living in Wichita with his mom. She got a Federal Judgeship and he divorced Pete's dad, so Pete decided to move with her.

Season 3 episode Foresaken (3.21) deals with the events leading up to him leaving...

[Tron5000]

Right on. Thanks for that.

[AgentPat]

OMG! Craig has screen caps of a new trailer...
...But later he has images of Clark at the graveyard...

http://www.kryptonsite.com/everything2-55.htmHmmm... I know everything looks small next to Clark, but that casket *does* look tiny. Maybe Jonathan is safe after all? Or are we to believe different scenes were shot to throw fans off - like putting out bogus scripts (TWO of 'em so far)?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ponder.gif

Well, if that funeral scene is real, and if the scripts aren't fake...........








...we know it isn't Clark. LOL :p

[GinaRenee]

Oh golly, senatorial candidate Jonathan looks SO hot! :eek: Excuse me -- I'm going to go off in the corner and drool now.

(Avid, Lex isn't throwing a birthday party for his brother -- I think the combination of the safe is his brother's birthdate, or something like that.)

[KalKai]

Jonathan and Lionel are fighting, Lionel is burning something http://www.kryptonsite.com/S60A-D29-SMA1-10-30.jpg , and yeah that casket is small, if it's Lana, I hope she learns the secret before she dies, but it can't be her lolz.

[Serene]

In the one graveside picture, you can see someone standing behind Clark. Female, from the looks of the shoes.

Of course, it could be anyone...

[The Incredible Hulk]

Hmmm... I know everything looks small next to Clark, but that casket *does* look tiny. Maybe Jonathan is safe after all? Or are we to believe different scenes were shot to throw fans off - like putting out bogus scripts (TWO of 'em so far)?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ponder.gif

Well, if that funeral scene is real, and if the scripts aren't fake...........





...we know it isn't Clark. LOL :p

I've seen sometimes when there's nothing left or not a lot of someone left to bury they use a smaller casket and bury certain personal things that someone owned in their life.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

I think they need to have an episode where all of the limbo characters come back, if only to kill them off.

Okay, maybe just Lucas.

[triplet]

I don't know about in movies or TV, but in theatre they intentionally make caskets and bodies smaller.

The perception from the audience is that it doesn't look real if a person's corpse or casket is real sized. I mean, I've seen a few open casket funerals and the deceased person looked smaller laying there than they did in life to me, so I think there might be something to that. I worked a show where the "corpse" of a man who was over six feet tall was about a foot shorter than the actor.

I wonder if they're doing the same thing here...

If not, I think Pat might have it right. I wouldn't put it past them to film two versions of the scene with different sized caskets.

I mean, look at the image from above. That casket looks rather small for the size hole it's in...

[mellyM]

When I saw the graveside picture, it really hit me that they're truely killing someone..this so sucks, I really don't understand why they feel its necessary, it may be a powerful episode, but the effect is permanent...and just when (if its him) Papa Bo was starting to look so handsome...

[avidreader]

I'm too emotional at the moment to know what I think. This is gonna be one heck of an episode.


There's one shot of Lana facing towards us with Clark in the background. I swear she's got her kryptonite necklace on.

[KalKai]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/S60A-D29-SMA1-10-04.jpg - that? is it me or is she looking older there? and does she still have her old necklace?

[Bruce_Wayne29]

What if Jonathan kills Lionel ("Jor-El") ? lol

[avidreader]

In the one graveside picture, you can see someone standing behind Clark. Female, from the looks of the shoes.

Of course, it could be anyone...

It's either Lana or Martha. Chloe doesnt wear shoes like that.

[mellyM]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/S60A-D29-SMA1-10-04.jpg - that? is it me or is she looking older there? and does she still have her old necklace?
You can't really see what hanging from the chain, so it could be any necklace

[avidreader]

http://www.kryptonsite.com/S60A-D29-SMA1-10-04.jpg - that? is it me or is she looking older there? and does she still have her old necklace?

That's the one. Clark held onto the necklace after Tina Greer put it on him and threw him down the cellar, then the ship neutralised it.

Melly its just the way the chain meets at the centre that made me think it was the kryptonite necklace.

I dont think she looks older just a little stressed.

[mellyM]

That's the one. Clark held onto the necklace after Tina Greer put it on him and threw him down the cellar, then the ship neutralised it.

Melly its just the way the chain meets at the centre that made me think it was the kryptonite necklace.

I dont think she looks older just a little stressed.
Maybe..did Clark ever give it back to her?

[KikiDee]

Okay here's my theory on the casket issue. It looks small because you are looking down on an object that is supposed to be six feet deep in the ground. The space around the casket is actually the sides of the grave. It's perspective kind of like the dopple effect.

I'm not sure if it would necessarily be his dad because I don't think he would leave his mom's side if it were. The person behind him is not facing the casket and seems to be either standing alone or facing someone else.

Hmmm......very interesting. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

[avidreader]

Maybe..did Clark ever give it back to her?

No he hasnt. He would have to give her a good reason for it turning from green to clear and my guess is he hasnt been ready to do that.

In the episode Hereafter she had it on when she was on her death bed.

With that Angel statue in the background, it would make the burial site right near where Lana's parents are.

[SuperSoldier87]

What if Jonathan kills Lionel ("Jor-El") ? lol That's what I'm afraid of that Johnathan is going to do something drastic.

[The Incredible Hulk]

is it just me or do the scenes with the funeral look a bit "dream sequencey"? :confused:

[triplet]

is it just me or do the scenes with the funeral look a bit "dream sequencey"? :confused:

No, it's not just you... they do to me too but it might be how they've treated the film for the trailer.. You know, so it was kinda like they did with Splinter where they made the footage look different.

I don't think it's going to be a dream sequence. If Clark dreamed someone dying but they didn't really die, and that dream was the "death" in the 100th episode, that would be really lame.

I don't really want anyone to die but if they pulled a fast one like that, especially after all this build up, I would be angry. :mad: It'd be a total cop-out.

[KalKai]

..

no.

Probably it's just the trailer that's made up like that, and it gives you that impression, but we all know it's a real funeral.

[Red]

No, it's not just you... they do to me too but it might be how they've treated the film for the trailer.. You know, so it was kinda like they did with Splinter where they made the footage look different.

I don't think it's going to be a dream sequence. If Clark dreamed someone dying but they didn't really die, and that dream was the "death" in the 100th episode, that would be really lame.

I don't really want anyone to die but if they pulled a fast one like that, especially after all this build up, I would be angry. :mad: It'd be a total cop-out.

yeah they sometimes intercut episodes for teasers.

[The Incredible Hulk]

No, it's not just you... they do to me too but it might be how they've treated the film for the trailer.. You know, so it was kinda like they did with Splinter where they made the footage look different.

I don't think it's going to be a dream sequence. If Clark dreamed someone dying but they didn't really die, and that dream was the "death" in the 100th episode, that would be really lame.

I don't really want anyone to die but if they pulled a fast one like that, especially after all this build up, I would be angry. :mad: It'd be a total cop-out.

I didnt exactly mean to imply that they were going to go that route, but they still could have Clark dreaming of the death of someone close to him while having say Jor-El's life force be what's actually extinguished.

[triplet]

I didnt exactly mean to imply that they were going to go that route, but they still could have Clark dreaming of the death of someone close to him while having say Jor-El's life force be what's actually extinguished.

Oh, gotcha....

[GinaRenee]

In the one graveside picture, you can see someone standing behind Clark. Female, from the looks of the shoes.

Of course, it could be anyone...

Now that's odd. A friend and I both thought they looked like a man's shoes.

This reminds me of the old season 3 debate over whether it was Lex or Jonathan crouching in the cemetery at night!

[avidreader]

^^^^ The shoes look like they have heels, ladies' heels.

[GinaRenee]

I went back and took a long hard look. I think what you're seeing as a "heel" is an illusion caused by the falling snow -- there's a flake right there by the person's shoe, about to hit the ground, causing a white spot against the black that looks like a space.

Lord, I'm straining my vision over snowflakes on shoes. Could we be any more obsessed? :)

[Serene]

Lord, I'm straining my vision over snowflakes on shoes. Could we be any more obsessed? :)
LOL.. sad, ain't it?

I do think that Gina is correct about the snowflake, but I still think they look like women's boots/shoes based on the shape of that toe box.

Or some really girly looking man shoes. :D

Oh, and I agree with Kiki about the illusion of looking straight down into the grave. I don't think it's much wider than the casket at all. Trip and I already obsessed over these pictures last night. :)

One thing I was wondering... Any guesses on what that picture of the blueish blur is? It looks like the earth maybe??

I'm also surprised that there's only one shot of Chloe in the whole thing. And what the heck is Lois doing taking aim at Jonathan? She must be hypnOtized.. or something.

[avidreader]

LOL.. sad, ain't it?

I do think that Gina is correct about the snowflake, but I still think they look like women's boots/shoes based on the shape of that toe box.

Or some really girly looking man shoes. :D

Well I thought the toe looked girly, but what I thought was a heel just drove the point home for me that they were girls shoes. Plus the foot looks small.

Obsessed. Who us? Never! :D

Oh, and I agree with Kiki about the illusion of looking straight down into the grave. I don't think it's much wider than the casket at all. Trip and I already obsessed over these pictures last night. :)

Yeah, I went back and checked after reading what Kiki wrote, and I agree.

One thing I was wondering... Any guesses on what that picture of the blueish blur is? It looks like the earth maybe??

Well I thought it was a view of the earth from Clark's perspective in Hidden.

I'm also surprised that there's only one shot of Chloe in the whole thing.

And that shot is from Solitude.

And what the heck is Lois doing taking aim at Jonathan? She must be hypnOtized.. or something.

How do you know its Jonathan? Did I miss something.

If it is, it could have something to do with Fanatic. That crazy girl might have hypnotized her some how.

Great pics. Those ones of Clark in his suit at the graveyard. I mean he looks so incredibly handsome but they give me chills at the same time.

[muscaremy]

when did this trailer air

[Tron5000]

Totally off topic, but right now there are more people on the "Blade" and "The Batman" boards...For real?

[AgentPat]

Totally off topic, but right now there are more people on the "Blade" and "The Batman" boards...For real?Probably kids. Who else would be up at this godawful time of day?

Oh wait...

:p

[Brainiac 8]

I really hope Jonothans not the one that does Lionel in, because that would just take that glory away from Lex. He should be the one to do it.

[AgentPat]

I haven't seen the trailer that K-Site posted the pics from, but I've seen the caps. Typical WB marketing - it's all about misdirection. You can almost tell what will or won't happen based on what they insinuate...

Clark holding a limp Lana in his arms (from Splinter) followed by the funeral scenes in Reckoning? Conclusion: Lana probably isn't one of the characters that dies.

Jonathan and Lionel fighting? Conclusion: One or both may die, but it probably won't be at the hand of the other.

Lack of Chloe scenes? Well, lack of evidence isn't evidence, but it sure is disturbing. :( I'm just hoping they make up for her absence in subsequent episodes. LOL

[The Incredible Hulk]

All of those new clips in that trailer are from episodes 10, 11, and 12. I wouldnt be too worried about who you dont see in them, since basically all of the clips except for Clark and the grave come before the death happens

[Brainiac 8]

Clark holding a limp Lana in his arms (from Splinter) followed by the funeral scenes in Reckoning? Conclusion: Lana probably isn't one of the characters that dies.

"Everything you have wanted to see," Guess I won't get everything I have wanted to see....Doh, did I say that out loud? :O :p

[AgentPat]

All of those new clips in that trailer are from episodes 10, 11, and 12. I wouldn't be too worried about who you don't see in them, since basically all of the clips except for Clark and the grave come before the death happensOh, I know that. But it's *how* they chose to assemble those clips. They're going to try to misdirect viewers into thinking one thing when that won't happen. They're cagey that way LOL.

Brainiac... LMAO!!! :D

[mellyM]

I really hope Jonothans not the one that does Lionel in, because that would just take that glory away from Lex. He should be the one to do it.
LOL..thats interesting, to say that there's "glory" in killing someone. but I know what you mean.
The shot of Lana in the pale blue turtle neck..thats new right? and I assume the shot of the bald girl is from fanatic

[Brainiac 8]

LOL..thats interesting, to say that there's "glory" in killing someone. but I know what you mean.
The shot of Lana in the pale blue turtle neck..thats new right? and I assume the shot of the bald girl is from fanatic

Yea, that didn't sound right.:O

I was meaning within the context of Lex's story and dark turn. You would think that Lex doing away with Lionel would be him expelling that "demon" that has been hounding him his whole life. Thus the new life for Lex Luthor would start.:cool:

[avidreader]

LOL..thats interesting, to say that there's "glory" in killing someone. but I know what you mean.
The shot of Lana in the pale blue turtle neck..thats new right? and I assume the shot of the bald girl is from fanatic

Apart from Mortal, Clark and Lana havent had any loft scenes so far this season.

All of those shots with the two of them together, not including the ones from Splinter, are new.

[mellyM]

Apart from Mortal, Clark and Lana havent had any loft scenes so far this season.

All of those shots with the two of them together, not including the ones from Splinter, are new.
Thought so. The shot with Clark in the background and Lana in the foreground with her back to him doesn't seem like there's anything good going on there. That kind of setup of a shot never bodes well...do you think we're seeing the beginning of the end of Clana?

Ugh! why must they kill someone!..sorry, I'll be prone to random outbursts until the 100th ep airs, lol.

[avidreader]

Thought so. The shot with Clark in the background and Lana in the foreground with her back to him doesn't seem like there's anything good going on there. That kind of setup of a shot never bodes well...do you think we're seeing the beginning of the end of Clana?

Ugh! why must they kill someone!..sorry, I'll be prone to random outbursts until the 100th ep airs, lol.

I actually took a really close look at the Lana /Clark shots. There are three different scenes. Two of them she looks like she's wearing the same jacket, but she doesnt have any earrings on in one of them and the other one she has the high turtle neck sweater on. (talk about obsessed)

The shot you're talking about, I would take a guess and say she's telling him about working with Lex and the black space ship.

[Kaboom]

so i was watching the preview that they kept airing for the 100th episode; the one with clark at the grave. a few things i noticed:

1. a man is definetly standing behind clark in the top left corner....we see his black slacks and shoes. unfortunately we dont know who he is. but do you really think lex or lionel would go to jonathan's funeral? i'm guessing not.

2. clark is tossing dirt on the casket. (this may be reading to much into it, but) tossing dirt is a jewish practice. christians lay flowers. at least thats what i always thought. unfortunatly i cant think of any jews on smallville. so i dont know how much that helps.

[triplet]

I think those are a woman's shoes, not a man's, and Christians throw dirt on the casket too not just flowers...

Although, the only graveside service I had ever attended was for my grandmother and I don't think we did either. Maybe it depends on the religion.

[mellyM]

I think those are a woman's shoes, not a man's, and Christians throw dirt on the casket too not just flowers...

Although, the only graveside service I had ever attended was for my grandmother and I don't think we did either. Maybe it depends on the religion.
we tossed dirt at my grandfathers and grandmother's funerals, and I'm not jewish...i hope its not his mother, I love his mother

[avidreader]

so i was watching the preview that they kept airing for the 100th episode; the one with clark at the grave. a few things i noticed:

1. a man is definetly standing behind clark in the top left corner....we see his black slacks and shoes. unfortunately we dont know who he is. but do you really think lex or lionel would go to jonathan's funeral? i'm guessing not.

It flashed by so quick, but I thought I saw a male as well. Did you notice the screen shot that said "Shocking Death"

2. clark is tossing dirt on the casket. (this may be reading to much into it, but) tossing dirt is a jewish practice. christians lay flowers. at least thats what i always thought. unfortunatly i cant think of any jews on smallville. so i dont know how much that helps.

Well at my mother's funeral we tossed flowers, but I've seen on alot of other TV shows people throwing dirt, so maybe its a tradition they have for TV shows and Movies.

[mellyM]

Well at my mother's funeral we tossed flowers, but I've seen on alot of other TV shows people throwing dirt, so maybe its a tradition they have for TV shows and Movies.
the dirt, at least how it was explained to me was a symbol of closure and the flowers were a symbol of remberance. I'm not sure if that was simply made up to make me feel better, but the tossing of the dirt was supposed to be a way of letting go, in a sense "burying" the person, and flowers meant they'd never be forgotten.

The look on his face is so bitter and final, its just so sad

[avidreader]

the dirt, at least how it was explained to me was a symbol of closure and the flowers were a symbol of remberance. I'm not sure if that was simply made up to make me feel better, but the tossing of the dirt was supposed to be a way of letting go, in a sense "burying" the person, and flowers meant they'd never be forgotten.

Well that makes sense.

The look on his face is so bitter and final, its just so sad

It's gut wrenching isnt it. I'm not sure if I'm looking forward to it or not. :(

[avidreader]

Okay, the Agent Sam prediction. Now I dont know who this guy is, but from what I can gather he has a bit of a reputation around the Smallville Internet Universe.

He said it wasnt.........















Lana

and it wasnt















Chloe

and it wasnt















Martha















Take that and think of it whatever you want. ;)

[rumpuso]

Avid, what site is this person from and do you know any of his credentials? Because honestly, I've found on the internet that there are dozens of self professed "insiders", anywhere from knowing the scoop of the Superman movie, to knowing who will die on Smallville. Everyone knows something, but no one really knows anything. If they did, they probably wouldn't be posting it on a public board if they loved their job. The thing is, there is no way to know who is legit in a world where people can act however they want. All it takes is a winking emoticon and people seem to listen.

So, just wondering who this new insider is....

[KalKai]

He's not new, he's the 1 that gives the spoilers to Kryptonsite "Thanks Sam", he's from TWoP forums.

[rumpuso]

Well maybe he's legit. But isn't this the same forum that screams that Chlois is the truth? I know KSite feeds off them for their arguments. Oye.

[avidreader]

As I said rumpuso, I dont know who he is that's why I said make of it what you want and I'm not saying that his prediction is going to come true.

However, I wasnt well yesterday and I was laid up on the couch just surfing around, and I saw his predictions in a couple of places and they all said that this guy knows things that others dont. As Kalkai said he's the one that provides the spoilers.

Its quite possible that he doesnt know, but because everybody thinks he does, he's gonna stick some things out there to see the reaction.

I dunno. Bottom line is we wont really know until the episode airs. They are being very tight lipped about this. And its a good thing because they are getting the reaction from the fans that they want.

[rumpuso]

Oh I know Avid, that you were only posting what you had seen. I just sometimes get tired of all the supposed "insiders" we see across each and every board. I hope you didn't feel I was knocking you because that was not my intention. And, as you said, we'll know for sure once the episode airs. :)

[mellyM]

I'm retarded, never mind

[mellyM]

He's not new, he's the 1 that gives the spoilers to Kryptonsite "Thanks Sam", he's from TWoP forums.
all that means is he has access to the sides posted..which has nothing to do with the show, since they aren't posting them on free sites anymore

[triplet]

I don't know if I'm happy to know who it might be, I didn't want to find out, but it's been drivig me crazy so I looked...

However, I betcha 'rene is going to be ecstatic it's not be Lana, at least according to this guy.... I had suspected that it might be Jonathan going from the trailer.

It seems like the only other times we'd seen large angel statues in grave yards (even in all the times scenes have taken place in graveyards) was when Clark and Lana were at her parents' graves and then later again at Whitney's Dad's funeral...

Seems like they save the huge angel staturary for parents graves... Or it could mean nothing.

[Red]

Sounds like Jonathan

[The Incredible Hulk]

not the TWOP rumor again? :(

[Red]

Twop?

[KalKai]

Television Without Pity.

Hulk why? you'd have a problem if Jonathan dies?

[Serene]

However, I betcha 'rene is going to be ecstatic it's not be Lana, at least according to this guy.... I had suspected that it might be Jonathan going from the trailer.
Rene isn't taking anything for granted until she sees it with her own eyes. :)

Although, like you.. the noticable absence of Jonathan from the most recent teaser makes me suspicious that it's him. I can see Jonathan having a grabber at that big political rally, perhaps on the eve of him winning the state senate seat.. or maybe right after winning it. All speculation, of course.

I really did want to be surprised.. but I changed my mind so I *tried* to find out who it was by asking someone I know who is probably able to find out. Unfortunately, he doesn't want to know either! He wants to be surprised. Damn! :mad: ;)

[The Incredible Hulk]

Television Without Pity.

Hulk why? you'd have a problem if Jonathan dies?

Jonathan dying, no. Jonathan dying at the hands of Jor-El for something Clark did... YES big time...

[avidreader]

Jonathan dying, no. Jonathan dying at the hands of Jor-El for something Clark did... YES big time...

Maybe if Clark hadnt defied Jor-el and not come back to Smallville, those Kryptonians would have killed alot more people, including Jonathan and Lana.

[KalKai]

That won't happen of course, I still don't understand how they're going to explain Jor-El's words "the life of someone close to you will be exchanged, for yours" "someone you love" .. I really hope he's talking about himself. But still, thinking about it, is a parent able to kill somebody to save their son's life? I say yes.

We know that Jonathan and Lionel will have a fight, something tragic will happen during that fight probably.

[triplet]

Rene isn't taking anything for granted until she sees it with her own eyes. :)

Although, like you.. the noticable absence of Jonathan from the most recent teaser makes me suspicious that it's him. I can see Jonathan having a grabber at that big political rally, perhaps on the eve of him winning the state senate seat.. or maybe right after winning it. All speculation, of course.

I really did want to be surprised.. but I changed my mind so I *tried* to find out who it was by asking someone I know who is probably able to find out. Unfortunately, he doesn't want to know either! He wants to be surprised. Damn! :mad: ;)

Damn is right.

But maybe it's for the best.... *sigh*

[The Incredible Hulk]

Maybe if Clark hadnt defied Jor-el and not come back to Smallville, those Kryptonians would have killed alot more people, including Jonathan and Lana.

even so, you're still pinning Clark's father's death indirectly on him. It sets up all sorts of screwed up character motivations for him and also would make him despise Jor-El...

[avidreader]

even so, you're still pinning Clark's father's death indirectly on him. It sets up all sorts of screwed up character motivations for him and also would make him despise Jor-El...

I agree, I'm not liking it either. Have you posted your little speculation yet at The Kingdom?

I still have this feeling that its Chloe.

[The Incredible Hulk]

yeah I dont believe the TWOP rumors myself. The guy isnt exactly going out on a limb by saying it's gonna be Jonathan. That's like predicting the Colts to win the Super Bowl right now. It's nothing profound when you pick the most obvious candidate.

[avidreader]

yeah I dont believe the TWOP rumors myself. The guy isnt exactly going out on a limb by saying it's gonna be Jonathan. That's like predicting the Colts to win the Super Bowl right now. It's nothing profound when you pick the most obvious candidate.

His speculation is based from the script sides he has for Cyborg.

[The Incredible Hulk]

or so he says. Even so, all the detail could be false. This thing is a pretty heavily guarded secret, if people who regularly get the sides like K-Site and DTS, dont know, I seriously doubt the random guy from the TWOP forums has them either...

[KalKai]

It's not that hard to keep a secret like this, all you gotta do is confuse people and tell lie after lie, lol.

[Spaceballs]

I'll be ticked if the Death turns out to be an "obvious" Character I want it to be like the Advertisements say

SHOCKING & Surprising

If its just Jonathan & or Lionel well I might just want to kill somene

[KalKai]

It won't be shocking or surprising, well maybe shocking yeah, it's still a death after all, but surprising for us.. no.

Jonathan, Martha, Lionel, Lana & Chloe.. they're just 5. :)

Actually they're less, Clark would never cry at Lionel's funeral lol, they're 4.

[Spaceballs]

The one thing that has me curious is WHY this certain Actor / Actress is out of no where leaving the Show. This has got to be a first for Televsion. I hope after the Episode airs we find out WHY. Obviously if this is a PERM death they written in the Show this Person dying to not have to worry about the Character.

[KalKai]

Spaceballs we're at the end anyway, we will be getting a Season 6 i'm sure.. I want the series to end there, actually I want the series to end now just for 1 reason, to see Tom in the suit lol.

A death is necessary sometimes, it doesn't mean that this actor or actress has problems with the cast or with the show, everything has an end.

[Spaceballs]

Spaceballs we're at the end anyway, we will be getting a Season 6 i'm sure.. I want the series to end there, actually I want the series to end now just for 1 reason, to see Tom in the suit lol.

A death is necessary sometimes, it doesn't mean that this actor or actress has problems with the cast or with the show, everything has an end.

WE are NOT at the End if theres gonna be a Season 6 :p

I wonder what Suit they will use when the time comes. If I were a betting man I'd almost bet it'd be Chistopher Reeves as a homage to him.

It is such a shame Chris is gone :( it would have been AWESOME if Swanne asked Clark to come to the Company Thingy & he hands Clark THE SUIT & Martha & Jonathan (if alive) be there & they ask Clark about a name & he thinks back to when Lana said something like "Are you man or Superman" (back in Season 1 or 2 I think) & Clark Picks Superman with Christopher Reeve being the one to give Clark Kent the Superman Suit it would have been soooooooooooooooo good


Would have been a BEAUTIFUL moment to see Christopher Reeve handing Tom as Clark the same Superman Suit he wore (only made for Tom)

[mellyM]

The one thing that has me curious is WHY this certain Actor / Actress is out of no where leaving the Show. This has got to be a first for Televsion. I hope after the Episode airs we find out WHY. Obviously if this is a PERM death they written in the Show this Person dying to not have to worry about the Character.
I doubt they had a choice in the matter..characters sometimes get killed off of series, Alias just did (why I dno't know), waaay long ago 30 Something did it (remember the whiney show?) Lost seems to be making a trend of it. So if they decide to kill your character, you're just out of a job whether you want to be or not

[avidreader]

or so he says. Even so, all the detail could be false. This thing is a pretty heavily guarded secret, if people who regularly get the sides like K-Site and DTS, dont know, I seriously doubt the random guy from the TWOP forums has them either...

I think he is a little more than just some random guy. As Kalkai said he's the one that supplies spoilers to Ksite and I read up on the history of the guy and he just knows more than just random wild guesses.

[The Incredible Hulk]

but yet K-Site hasnt posted it after seeing the same sides he did? :confused:

[avidreader]

http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/index.php?page=smallville

Watch this now.

[KalKai]

Omg What A Fantastic Trailer Omgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg.. okay, lol.

whoever wants to download the trailer, link: http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28WQRIZ0P9K5537M643N964YDE

[triplet]

The one thing that has me curious is WHY this certain Actor / Actress is out of no where leaving the Show. This has got to be a first for Televsion. I hope after the Episode airs we find out WHY. Obviously if this is a PERM death they written in the Show this Person dying to not have to worry about the Character.

It's a ratings grabber, that's why, and it helps them save money at the same time.

It's a win-win for the producers. They trim an expensive cast member and get a bounce in their ratings for Sweeps...

With Lost think of when they killed Boone and Shannon... Boone was killed during the May sweeps and Shannon was killed in November, again during sweeps.

As for whether the actors would welcome leaving....

Ian Somerhalder didn't take the news well, apparently, of Boone's impending death. He grumbled to the press about it after the episode aired. However, he didn't burn any bridges and the Mouse House rewarded his loss of a steady gig by giving him a deal at the studio for future TV projects.

Maggie Grace wasn't at all upset about getting killed off, it would seem. She has a movie career she'd like to pursue, but good luck with that unless her wooden performance in The Fog was due to the hack director....

Probably the actor most willing to move on would probably be John Glover, I would think. He's hardly on anymore anyway since he has so many other things going on back on the East Coast. He works fairly regularly on the stage and shedding the responsibilities of working on Smallville probably wouldn't break his heart. It would give him time to do more of that stuff...

As for John Schneider? If he's the one, would he welcome leaving? Who knows for sure but from what I understand, he's the only cast member who doesn't live in Vancouver while they are shooting. He flies in for his shooting days and then goes back to his home. He clearly has things that keep him elsewhere when he's not working on Smaville so maybe it wouldn't break his heart to leave either.

How about Allison Mack? If Chloe is the one, would she like to return to LA and get other work? Yeah, probably.... She hasn't any major work outside Smallville since signing on. She's complained in the press about movies always not panning out almost every hiatus, so she might welcome leaving and getting on with doing outside stuff.

[avidreader]

Omg What A Fantastic Trailer Omgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg :d :d :d :d

It's frickin amazing isnt it. What's he going to show her? Man, I cant wait.

[KalKai]

I can't believe how slow these forums are, anyway.. new page, ill post the download link again

http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28WQRIZ0P9K5537M643N964YDE

[triplet]

I can't believe how slow these forums are, anyway.. new page, ill post the download link again

http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28WQRIZ0P9K5537M643N964YDE

Thanks... :D

[Spaceballs]

It's a ratings grabber, that's why, and it helps them save money at the same time.

It's a win-win for the producers. They trim an expensive cast member and get a bounce in their ratings for Sweeps...

With Lost think of when they killed Boone and Shannon... Boone was killed during the May sweeps and Shannon was killed in November, again during sweeps.

As for whether the actors would welcome leaving....

Ian Somerhalder didn't take the news well, apparently, of Boone's impending death. He grumbled to the press about it after the episode aired. However, he didn't burn any bridges and the Mouse House rewarded his loss of a steady gig by giving him a deal at the studio for future TV projects.

Maggie Grace wasn't at all upset about getting killed off, it would seem. She has a movie career she'd like to pursue, but good luck with that unless her wooden performance in The Fog was due to the hack director....

Probably the actor most willing to move on would probably be John Glover, I would think. He's hardly on anymore anyway since he has so many other things going on back on the East Coast. He works fairly regularly on the stage and shedding the responsibilities of working on Smallville probably wouldn't break his heart. It would give him time to do more of that stuff...

As for John Schneider? If he's the one, would he welcome leaving? Who knows for sure but from what I understand, he's the only cast member who doesn't live in Vancouver while they are shooting. He flies in for his shooting days and then goes back to his home. He clearly has things that keep him elsewhere when he's not working on Smaville so maybe it wouldn't break his heart to leave either.

How about Allison Mack? If Chloe is the one, would she like to return to LA and get other work? Yeah, probably.... She hasn't any major work outside Smallville since signing on. She's complained in the press about movies always not panning out almost every hiatus, so she might welcome leaving and getting on with doing outside stuff.

Kristen seems to have NO problem getting work outside of Smallville when its on break. Maybe they just dont like Allison :p

[Red]

Great trailer shame about that voice at the end.

[triplet]

Kristen seems to have NO problem getting work outside of Smallville when its on break. Maybe they just dont like Allison :p

Actually they like Allison a lot, Gough said so in a DVD commentary...

I'm not sure how much personal feelings will really be a factor in their decision of who dies, however.

[avidreader]

Can anyone work out what it is Jonathan's holding just before he socks Lionel one?

[Spaceballs]

Damn I hate it they are back to making it look like Clark is going to tell Lana his Secret but we all know how that is going to end up :down

[Spaceballs]

Can anyone work out what it is Jonathan's holding just before he socks Lionel one?


http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/9460/untitled7yz1.png

No Clue

Money Maybe ? Looks Like He Is Crunching Something

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1381/24vd.png

The person behind Clark I am almost certaina WOMAN

[avidreader]

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/9460/untitled7yz1.png

No Clue

Money Maybe ? Looks Like He Is Crunching Something

Its hard to tell.



http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1381/24vd.png

The person behind Clark I am almost certaina WOMAN

The shot pulls up a bit higher than that, and it does appear to be female or a small man.

When we see Clark dropping dirt on the coffin he's actually standing up, I thought he was kneeling, so that makes it even more obvious that the size of the coffin is out of perspective.

[triplet]

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/9460/untitled7yz1.png



Looks likes crumpled paper...



http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1381/24vd.png

The person behind Clark I am almost certaina WOMAN

Yeah, I think it's a woman...

But it is kinda hard to tell from the perspective this shot was taken from. Also the upward movement as the camera craned up could distort things too, so I guess we'll find out for sure in Reckoning...

[avidreader]

But it is kinda hard to tell from the perspective this shot was taken from. Also the upward movement as the camera craned up could distort things too, so I guess we'll find out for sure in Reckoning...

But I'm not sure that I can wait that long. :D

[Serene]

I'm sooo pathetic. Anyone else try to watch that graveside scene frame by frame to see who the person standing behind him is? The picture starts going all-white.. but you can *almost* see part of the head. Someone with better software then me should try and capture it.

You know.. if you're as pathetic as I am. :D

[Spaceballs]

This one Serene ?

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1075/100000009yi.jpg

& Call me crazy but look at the head of the Angel Statue

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1766/200000009ry.jpg

Is it crazy for me to think the Angel Head looks like Jonathans head. The shape is very similiar to it. Compare the head to the Angel Statue & to this Shape with Jonathan & Jonathans Hair

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6512/300000006gy.jpg

Crazy I know

Am I the only one here that sees similarites ?

Yes I know it is a CRAZY thought

[avidreader]

No you arent crazy it does look similar, but they've been using that statue since the pilot.

I'm sooo pathetic. Anyone else try to watch that graveside scene frame by frame to see who the person standing behind him is? The picture starts going all-white.. but you can *almost* see part of the head. Someone with better software then me should try and capture it.


LOL! You're so funny. I've noticed a glimpse of it, and its so damn hard to tell. The body just looks too small to be a guy.

[AgentPat]

LOL! You're so funny. I've noticed a glimpse of it, and its so damn hard to tell. The body just looks too small to be a guy.That's 'cause it's Danny DiVito, my favorite metaphor for Superman casting, didn'cha know? LOLOLOL! :D

Sorry, couldn't resist. Hee! ;)

Awesome trailer! :up:

So does Clark spill it or what? And with a 6th season being in the wings (no pun intended), wouldn't that be too soon? :confused:

[avidreader]

That's 'cause it's Danny DiVito, my favorite metaphor for Superman casting, didn'cha know? LOLOLOL! :D

Sorry, couldn't resist. Hee! ;)

But Danny Divito isnt in Smallville. ;)

Awesome trailer! :up:

So does Clark spill it or what? And with a 6th season being in the wings (no pun intended), wouldn't that be too soon? :confused:

It certainly sounds like he's going to share something with her. But then it could just be very clever editing.

You know I thought in Splinter when she was looking at the trajectory of the meteor shower on her computer that it may well have been the first meteor shower. Explains why she says "what if a ship landed during the first meteor shower and whoever was in it has been living amongst us."

I wonder if she's actually baiting him, to see if he tells her anything.

[Serene]

This one Serene ?

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1075/100000009yi.jpg
That's it! Thanks, Spaceballs. (Now there's a phrase I never imagined saying. ;)).

That's the frame. I guess there's really no way of making out who that is. Of course, I could find my magnifying glass..

So does Clark spill it or what? And with a 6th season being in the wings (no pun intended), wouldn't that be too soon?

I can see two scenarios. Either he tells Lana, because Chloe is dead and Lana then becomes his confidante on the show to help him... OR.. he tells Lana, then they kill her off. Just thought of a third possibility - It's all a big freakin' tease.. AGAIN! Gah!

I actually have no clue.

[avidreader]

I can see two scenarios. Either he tells Lana, because Chloe is dead and Lana then becomes his confidante on the show to help him... OR.. he tells Lana, then they kill her off. Just thought of a third possibility - It's all a big freakin' tease.. AGAIN! Gah!

I actually have no clue.

What if he tells her before Chloe dies.

[AgentPat]

But Danny Divito isn't in Smallville. ;)Yeah, 'cause he couldn't be in the show and the film at the same time.

[Ba da dum - Pish!]

<- is feeling no pain tonight LOL


It certainly sounds like he's going to share something with her. But then it could just be very clever editing.Not sure what I'd rather have. I didn't want Lana to find out till the final episode. The show finale, that is.

You know I thought in Splinter when she was looking at the trajectory of the meteor shower on her computer that it may well have been the first meteor shower. Explains why she says "what if a ship landed during the first meteor shower and whoever was in it has been living amongst us."There's a LOT of exposition that better occur between now and when she says that, 'cause a "sane" individual wouldn't go from meteor shower to aliens living amongst us for 13 years w/o a good deal of circumstantial evidence.

I wonder if she's actually baiting him, to see if he tells her anything.Could be. And I wouldn't be surprised if it were Lex prodding her along with clues so that she could piece together the puzzle all by herself.

[The Incredible Hulk]

what if he tells Lana and then kills her? :D

[avidreader]

Not sure what I'd rather have. I didn't want Lana to find out till the final episode. The show finale, that is.

I'm not sure now is the right time, but if they think it is I'll take it. However, I would want to see it before the series end, as I think we need to see how she deals with it and how she moves on from it. I dont think you could do that in a series finale.

There's a LOT of exposition that better occur between now and when she says that, 'cause a "sane" individual wouldn't go from meteor shower to aliens living amongst us for 13 years w/o a good deal of circumstantial evidence.

Well she's been doing some research with Lex I guess but I'm hoping we get to see some of that exposition in Lockdown.

Could be. And I wouldn't be surprised if it were Lex prodding her along with clues so that she could piece together the puzzle all by herself.

I would love to see her come up with the theory on her own, it would show the audience that she really is more than a pretty face.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Lana should find out long before the final episode, part of what makes their final breakup sad is both of them acknowledging he needs to move on to bigger and better things. They need to have a few shows of her coming to terms with who and what Clark is, and what he's meant to do. There's no way they could cram all of that and everything else that needs to be done in the series finale and do it all justice. I'm hoping they devote the entire second half of the final season to those sorts of things...

[triplet]

Lana should find out long before the final episode, part of what makes their final breakup sad is both of them acknowledging he needs to move on to bigger and better things. They need to have a few shows of her coming to terms with who and what Clark is, and what he's meant to do. There's no way they could cram all of that and everything else that needs to be done in the series finale and do it all justice. I'm hoping they devote the entire second half of the final season to those sorts of things...

Yeah, I think you're right although I had originally thought a scene like Superman for all season's where Clark flew Lana up over the farm was what I wanted.... I think that there's going to be so much going on as is if they throw that into the mix as well it might crowd out the Superman stuff.

[Spaceballs]

I don't think it will be THAT hard for Lana to come to terms. I mean look at Chloe she IMMEDIATELY recognized all the "Mysterious" things that Clark has done in the past when it comes to Saving People. Sure Lana may blame Clark for a bit & resent Clark for keeping it a Secret from her. Heck the Episode or the Episode AFTER Lana finds out (if Chloe is not dead) It'd be quite fun to see the Kents(if Jonathan is not dead) Chloe, Pete try to talk Lana & get her to come to terms with this. They do a whole 3 Episode Arc with Clark freaking out yada yada & everyone else trying to get Lana to come to her sense with a Guest Star Role from Pete. Once Lana knows the Secret pretty much everyone will know except the Luthors & all of Smallville & they better lock Lana up in a room before she goes blabbing to Lex.

Hers another Scenario. After finding out the secret Lana can go to Lex for comfort & to have someone to talk & Lex can eventually get all violent after he realizes Lana knows the Secret & accitdently kills Lana for refusing to tell him after Lana figures out why Lex recruited her etc. He basically used her to try learning Clarks Secret we all know he knew the ship might have something to do with Clark. Hey now thatd be a twist Lex killing LANA

[rumpuso]

edited because I'm not rumpuso and I completely forgot I was using her computer (oops)
-Melly

[Brainiac 8]

But Danny Divito isnt in Smallville. ;)



It certainly sounds like he's going to share something with her. But then it could just be very clever editing.

You know I thought in Splinter when she was looking at the trajectory of the meteor shower on her computer that it may well have been the first meteor shower. Explains why she says "what if a ship landed during the first meteor shower and whoever was in it has been living amongst us."

I wonder if she's actually baiting him, to see if he tells her anything.


Since the Third season I thinks she does know but wants Clark to want to tell her. Think of the season finale of season three, she says to him, "If you have something to say to me, say it before I'm gone." I think she wants him to say of his free will. Her being a jerk to him part of the forth season, I think was do to him not telling her. But she couldn't stay away, and realized that she does love him regardless. Maybe she thinks he'll tell her eventually if they stay together.

Remember in Lois and Clark, when he tells her she says she already knew. That is what I think will happen,and hopefully this season. I think she is still too important to the story of him becoming Superman to kill her off.:D :up:

[Brainiac 8]

Oh, and awsome trailer. I want it too be here now.:(

[Gmanofsteel]

I can see two scenarios. Either he tells Lana, because Chloe is dead and Lana then becomes his confidante on the show to help him... OR.. he tells Lana, then they kill her off. Just thought of a third possibility - It's all a big freakin' tease.. AGAIN! Gah!

I actually have no clue.
The first one makes sense, but idk about the second one, i find it a little hard to belive TPTB would killl a superman charcter who very well has a future :(

gosh this sucks, we need the 100th ep now :(

[avidreader]

Since the Third season I thinks she does know but wants Clark to want to tell her. Think of the season finale of season three, she says to him, "If you have something to say to me, say it before I'm gone." I think she wants him to say of his free will. Her being a jerk to him part of the forth season, I think was do to him not telling her. But she couldn't stay away, and realized that she does love him regardless. Maybe she thinks he'll tell her eventually if they stay together.


She definitely knew something was up with him. He basically admitted to her that he was different as far back as I can remember. And I do believe that she has been protecting him somewhat this season. Hence, why we never saw a big deal made of his resurrection.

Now that she's investigating space ships and meteor showers, its possible that she's starting to tie it all into what he really is.

I still think this Lexana thing thats hinted at for the end of the season will be Lana still trying to help Clark in some way.





Okay, I just rewatched that trailer and I swear whoever is standing behind Clark has long hair. Either Martha or Lana, it doesnt look light enough to be Lois.

[KalKai]

It's obviously Martha, she must be destroyed poor woman.

[Joaqenix]

If it was Martha why would she be just standing there? And far away from the coffin? If it was Martha I feel like she would a bit more "destroyed" and either with Clark right next to the grave, or already on her way out. I don't see her just standing there. To me it looks like someone is standing there basically waiting for Clark to have his time and then come along.

If Jonathan was dying, I doubt Martha would be standing there. It'd probably be Lana, Chloe, or Lois. On the other hand, if Chloe was the dead person, then I could see it being Martha.

On the "when should Lana find out" factor, its one of the things I've thought about the most since I've started watching Smallville. IF season 6 was to be the last, then I think she should find out in the last episode of this season as a cliffhanger. But I do not at all think they should wait until the series finale for her to find out. Its definitely something that should be at least a half-season long arc. I also want Clark to TELL Lana. It shouldn't be her figuring it out or being told by someone else like Alicia telling Chloe.

[muscaremy]

just a nitpick but technically alicia didnt tell chloe.....hehe

[KalKai]

Joagenix all we're seeing in the trailer is just a small part of the funeral, that person (Martha) already had her time, and now she's letting Clark have his time, alone.

[Earthsea]

just a nitpick but technically alicia didnt tell chloe.....hehe

She SHOWED Chloe. If Alicia just told Chloe she'd be skeptical the most. But then again Chloe would just think back to all the Mysterious things Clark have done in the past. But why do that when its better to show her ? I also wonder why Chloe has not told Clark HOW she found out. Well she did technially but did not bring up Alicia :p

[Brainiac 8]

She SHOWED Chloe. If Alicia just told Chloe she'd be skeptical the most. But then again Chloe would just think back to all the Mysterious things Clark have done in the past. But why do that when its better to show her ? I also wonder why Chloe has not told Clark HOW she found out. Well she did technially but did not bring up Alicia :p

I figured that conversation happened off screen, I'm sure she told him.

Welcome to the Hype, by the way! We are a nice bunch Earthsea.:up: :)

[Dagoods]

Who in the world is that bald headed chick?

Please don't tell me that's Lana :(???............:( :( :(

[Brainiac 8]

Who in the world is that bald headed chick?

Please don't tell me that's Lana :(???............:( :( :(


She is the character from "Fanatic" that is stalking Lex during the Campain.

[Dagoods]

She is the character from "Fanatic" that is stalking Lex during the Campain.

Thanks :up:

[Dagoods]

She is the character from "Fanatic" that is stalking Lex during the Campain.

Thanks :up:

[Joaqenix]

Joagenix all we're seeing in the trailer is just a small part of the funeral, that person (Martha) already had her time, and now she's letting Clark have his time, alone.
I know thats just a small part of what will inevitably be in the trailer...all I was saying is that the person standing there looks a little too composed to be someone who was struck close to home by the death.

[triplet]

You can't really see the person's face, how can you know how composed they really are? Just because the person doesn't appear to be in hysterics doesn't mean they haven't suffered a loss....

Different people handle grief in different ways.

[avidreader]

You can't really see the person's face, how can you know how composed they really are? Just because the person doesn't appear to be in hysterics doesn't mean they haven't suffered a loss....

Different people handle grief in different ways.

Whoever it is looks like they have their hands in the pockets of their coat. That is something that Lana does and Martha also does it, but moreso Lana.

By the way, I'm back to thinking its Jonathan. Miles said in the latest Smallville mag. that this death would change the series dramatically and we are also told that its going to have a profound effect on Clark. Whilst I think he would mourn the loss of Chloe, Jonathan's death would have a bigger impact on him.

[triplet]

Whoever it is looks like they have their hands in the pockets of their coat. That is something that Lana does and Martha also does it, but moreso Lana.

By the way, I'm back to thinking its Jonathan. Miles said in the latest Smallville mag. that this death would change the series dramatically and we are also told that its going to have a profound effect on Clark. Whilst I think he would mourn the loss of Chloe, Jonathan's death would have a bigger impact on him.

While Chloe's death would be an important event in his life, it's nothing like the death of a parent. Nothing.

I've had friends die and I've had even cousins and uncles and my grandparents die but none of those deaths, as much as I was impacted by them, was like the death of my father.

I've never really been convinced that anyone other than Jonathan or Martha dying would affect Clark in any significant way, especially in terms of his journey to becoming Superman.

[avidreader]

While Chloe's death would be an important event in his life, it's nothing like the death of a parent. Nothing.

I've had friends die and I've had even cousins and uncles and my grandparents die but none of those deaths, as much as I was impacted by them, was like the death of my father.

I've never really been convinced that anyone other than Jonathan or Martha dying would affect Clark in any significant way, especially in terms of his journey to becoming Superman.

And to a certain extent and within a certain context, we will see Jor-el start to fill the void that the loss of Jonathan has on Clark.

[The Incredible Hulk]

oh will we now? ;)

[avidreader]

oh will we now? ;)

Yeah, I think we will. You got something else to say about it. ;)

[muscaremy]

She SHOWED Chloe. If Alicia just told Chloe she'd be skeptical the most. But then again Chloe would just think back to all the Mysterious things Clark have done in the past. But why do that when its better to show her ? I also wonder why Chloe has not told Clark HOW she found out. Well she did technially but did not bring up Alicia :p


ya i know that was my point she showed not told her..... i was just bustin balls

[triplet]

You know Craig has put a scan from this article that includes a highly spoilerific photo of Lana and Clark...

http://www.calendarlive.com/printedition/calendar/cl-et-smallville19dec19,2,4638433.story

See Craig's scan here:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/hundred.htm

YIKES! :eek:

Hopefully someone will be able to get him a better scan of that image.

[Earthsea]

Is Lana floating up ?

[triplet]

No, I don't know but I think Clark is on his knees. One thing is certain is that it doesn't look like they're in Kansas anymore... ;)

[Brainiac 8]

You know Craig has put a scan from this article that includes a highly spoilerific photo of Lana and Clark...

http://www.calendarlive.com/printedition/calendar/cl-et-smallville19dec19,2,4638433.story

See Craig's scan here:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/hundred.htm

YIKES! :eek:

Hopefully someone will be able to get him a better scan of that image.

Is our resident alien doing what I think he is doing?:eek:

I so hope he tells her in this episode!!!!!:) :up:

[avidreader]

You know Craig has put a scan from this article that includes a highly spoilerific photo of Lana and Clark...

http://www.calendarlive.com/printedition/calendar/cl-et-smallville19dec19,2,4638433.story

See Craig's scan here:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/hundred.htm

YIKES! :eek:

Hopefully someone will be able to get him a better scan of that image.

OMG, bad scan or not its so obvious what it is. :eek:

Jeez, I hope he's not dreaming this.

And just a thought for those who thought Jor-el would be the one to die, including myself at one stage, why would they have a funeral at a grave site for Jor-el. Hmmmm.....?

[Brainiac 8]

No, I don't know but I think Clark is on his knees. One thing is certain is that it doesn't look like they're in Kansas anymore... ;)

That's what I'm saying! I want her to know so bad!!!

And it does look like the knee = FOS = Oh my god!!!:D

Do you really want me to get this excited in the middle of work, they may think I'm crazy.

[AgentPat]

Oh, MAN! Um... Yeah, they're not in Kansas anymore. :rolleyes: :p ;)

And uh... Clark's not hailing a cab either. LOL

[Brainiac 8]

And we still have several weeks to gooooo!!!!:(

Sorry, minor hissy fit.:D

[KalKai]

from DTS

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/20/21032500jpglana9sq.jpg

:D

[The Incredible Hulk]

holy balls on a stick! :eek: do you think that he revives her in the FoS?

[triplet]

Where'd they get that color version?

[The Incredible Hulk]

And just a thought for those who thought Jor-el would be the one to die, including myself at one stage, why would they have a funeral at a grave site for Jor-el. Hmmmm.....?

dream sequence.... misleading trailer. but this may change some things...

[rumpuso]

Does anyone have any guess as to what he is doing? Asking her to accept him maybe?

[AgentPat]

holy balls on a stick! :eek:No truer words have ever been spoken LOLOLOL!!

Talk about turning some big cards over this season, eh? ;)

do you think that he revives her in the FoS?Revives her from what?

[The Incredible Hulk]

Revives her from what?

The never-ending sleep?

[Brainiac 8]

The never-ending sleep?

That would be an interesting way for them to go with the story.

[avidreader]

from DTS

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/20/21032500jpglana9sq.jpg

:D

I'm glad to see he told her to rug up.

Why we doin all these spoilers tags. Isnt this an episode spoiler thread?

That would be an interesting way for them to go with the story.


Is Clark capable of doing that though?

[triplet]

That photo makes me wonder if KK is happy to finally have a scene in the FOS.... ;) :D

Dressed so warmly too, Clark must have warned her to bundle up.

[AgentPat]

Does anyone have any guess as to what he is doing? Asking her to accept him maybe?LOLOL!!!

Regardless of that being a dream sequence or not, I really don't think there's any other explanation than FOS, ring, and uh... what one does on one knee with such an item in front of the "love of their life." *ahem*

Hee!

When's this ep s'posed to air again? February? Man! That's like two months away. Gah!!!!!!!!!!!



Hulk, I'm still thinking it's gonna be Jonathan. I think Chloe is safe, and Lana's too "important" (ratings) to off. Martha's safe too, though Lionel's days are probably numbered as well. But in ep 100? Yeah, Jonathan's toast.

(I've got a bet with my husband for the placement of a new plasma TV. If it's Jonathan, the TV goes in the sun room opposite the Jacuzzi and the bar. :D :up: If it's Chloe, it goes in ManTown. :mad: :p So I have a vested interest in it being Jonathan. LOL If it's neither (fat chance), we'll just draw straws or somethin'.)

[triplet]

from DTS

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/20/21032500jpglana9sq.jpg

:D

I'm curious... did they by any chance say that they got that image from the LA Times (http://www.calendarlive.com/tv/) when they posted that image?

Am I bitter? Naw, not me...

[mellyM]

That would be an interesting way for them to go with the story.
It;d be a lame way and I'd hunt them down for causing me unecessary pain, but as much as I don't want it, I don't think they're kidding when they say someone will die..I think they're going to stay dead

and Yay for him FINALLY telling Lana, that nonsense has gone on long enough, now she can accept him or not with full knowledge

[avidreader]

LOLOL!!!

Regardless of that being a dream sequence or not, I really don't think there's any other explanation than FOS, ring, and uh... what one does on one knee with such an item in front of the "love of their life." *ahem*

Hee!

Where's the ring? I cant see a ring.

When's this ep s'posed to air again? February? Man! That's like two months away. Gah!!!!!!!!!!!

January 26th for the 100th.



Hulk, I'm still thinking it's gonna be Jonathan. I think Chloe is safe, and Lana's too "important" (ratings) to off. Martha's safe too, though Lionel's days are probably numbered as well. But in ep 100? Yeah, Jonathan's toast.

Me too.

(I've got a bet with my husband for the placement of a new plasma TV. If it's Jonathan, the TV goes in the sun room opposite the Jacuzzi and the bar. :D :up: If it's Chloe, it goes in ManTown. :mad: :p So I have a vested interest in it being Jonathan. LOL If it's neither (fat chance), we'll just draw straws or somethin'.)

What a dilemma! :D

[The Incredible Hulk]

That photo makes me wonder if KK is happy to finally have a scene in the FOS.... ;) :D

Dressed so warmly too, Clark must have warned her to bundle up.

well it is still winter in Smallville if we go by the infamous graveyard scene. So she still could have unintentionally been dressed like that.

LOLOL!!!



Regardless of that being a dream sequence or not, I really don't think there's any other explanation than FOS, ring, and uh... what one does on one knee with such an item in front of the "love of their life." *ahem*



Hee!



When's this ep s'posed to air again? February? Man! That's like two months away. Gah!!!!!!!!!!!







Hulk, I'm still thinking it's gonna be Jonathan. I think Chloe is safe, and Lana's too "important" (ratings) to off. Martha's safe too, though Lionel's days are probably numbered as well. But in ep 100? Yeah, Jonathan's toast.



(I've got a bet with my husband for the placement of a new plasma TV. If it's Jonathan, the TV goes in the sun room opposite the Jacuzzi and the bar. If it's Chloe, it goes in ManTown. So I have a vested interest in it being Jonathan. LOL If it's neither (fat chance), we'll just draw straws or somethin'.)

hmm I dont quite make out a ring in his hand there... my theory was that perhaps Lana does get "offed" but Clark flips and brings her to the Fortress to revive her.... So in the end someone dies but they get brought back...very comic-book like....

[rumpuso]

I don't see a ring either, Avid. That's why I wonder what he's doing. His hand is fisted, not holding a ring. It almost looks to me as if he's beseeching her to accept him.

[avidreader]

well it is still winter in Smallville if we go by the infamous graveyard scene. So she still could have unintentionally been dressed like that.

I think its directly after the scene in the Loft where he tells her "I'm Losing You". She's got a white turtle neck sweater on, and he's got his blue jacket and red t-shirt. I think he's preped her for a visit to the cold.

I don't see a ring either, Avid. That's why I wonder what he's doing. His hand is fisted, not holding a ring. It almost looks to me as if he's beseeching her to accept him.

I agree. Can someone do a closeup?

hmm I dont quite make out a ring in his hand there... my theory was that perhaps Lana does get "offed" but Clark flips and brings her to the Fortress to revive her.... So in the end someone dies but they get brought back...very comic-book like....


But would that have the earth shattering effect on the series that we've been led to believe will happen.

[mellyM]

I don't see a ring either, just his fingers..I really can't wait to see how she reacts...his arrival killed her parents, though its clearly not his fault..

[AgentPat]

...my theory was that perhaps Lana does get "offed" but Clark flips and brings her to the Fortress to revive her.... So in the end someone dies but they get brought back...very comic-book like....http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/lies.gif

And LOL@all you guys not "seeing" a ring. What else could he be doing there?

Sometimes a duck is just a duck, y'know?

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/rubberduck2.jpg

^ Clark. :p