the look of venom

[Reptile]

how do you want venom to look like in the new movie

[Kritish]

No symbol, but a lot like the licker on the resident evil movies .

[Arcturus]

I want Venom to look like Venom.

[Dangerous]

No symbol pah!,

Venom should look just like Venom.

[cookiva]

Venom should be Venom!

[Brodie_Bruce]

i really dont mind if he had the symbol or not id want it but if he doesnt thats not the most important thing id look out for.

[Kritish]

The symbol is unrealistic, the symbiote is an alien not a costume.

[Brodie_Bruce]

The symbol is unrealistic, the symbiote is an alien not a costume. yeah your right the symbol probably shouldnt be there

[Tangled Web]

The symbol should be there. This belongs in the sequels forum.

[Reptile]

The symbol should be there. This belongs in the sequels forum.

I think it shouldnt be a solid costume, it should be a sludge that drips:spidey:


venom is in spiderman 3 so it belongs in this forum

[javi1024]

i think it should have a solid/wet texture. something like what we saw in spawn.

here's one: what about his mouth? CG? animatronic? none?

[daveswb]

Is the fact that Venom is in 3 a spoiler? Should this be in the spolier forum?

Anyway. Yes the symbiote is an alien, but it's also a costume. It mimics clothing and works with the host to change it's appearence for what the host wants. I always wondered why when they origioanlly created the character they kept the symbol. I mean you would think with the hatred Brock and the symbiote both shared for spidey they would of changed it. But if you think about it there are few good explinations for this.

one the artist wanted to make him the anti spider-man. The ultimate anti-hero to spiderman. To keep that in the readers mind he needed to look like spidey with differences.

two it could be argued that because of the obsession Brock had for getting revenge on Spider-man that is why his mind kept the look when he got the symbiote.

third it makes for a good story telling element. A character tha tlooks like spider-man going around doing evil. The inital thought by the public is Spidey went bad.

fourth it could also be argued the symbiote liked the look of the symbol on itself.

And finally a character that is all black is not visually appealing in a comic or on the big screen.

I think we will get the symbol in the movie, because if Rami uses him, he'll want to do the anti-spider-man type story for him.

[Kritish]

This is not the comic book people, most of the people that will watch this movie have never read a venom comic in there life .

"And finally a character that is all black is not visually appealing in a comic or on the big screen. "

They had no problem with the monster on alien now did they ?

[Hype Police]

Don't compare Venom to H.R. Giger's Alien design for Gods sake. The design for Alien was one of the most masterful concepts in sci-fi and cinema history. There will never be a design as widely accepted and original for an Alien creature as long as we're all alive. The craft and complexity that went into the design of the creature was far beyond that of a simple, uninspired, black, carbon copy of an already existing design. Venom would be a cool thing to see onscreen, but daveswb has a point in saying an all black character isn't very visually exciting. There going to need to find a compromise that doesn't involve a contrived spider symbol emblazoned across Venoms chest but at the same time keep the rest of the design elements intact. I wouldn't be at all dissapointed with an all Black Venom as long as he has the menacing white eyes and that long slobbery tongue. As long as he is visually an imposing advisary to Spider-man the spirit of the character is there. That's just me though.

[orange]

i agree. though i would really hate for him to be complete cgi, what if they use the technique they did with lord of the rings for gollum, or the robots in I Robot where they let a man where a skin tight green costume and they animate the body later, at least the actors will be able to interact with one another properly.

ps. i'd also like him to have a wettish texture.

[borinquenknight]

Venom should be Venom!

Amen to that!

[Chris Wallace]

I say no symbol. If I really hate somebody I'm not gonna wear their symbol on my chest.

[Bicranial]

I say no symbol, and no tongue. I'd actually rather see the symbol than the tongue. That freakin' tongue is just, well, weird. If they do tongue, maybe it should evolve. I'd like to see a Venom that goes from plain, like a shadow, taking over Brock, to the big hulking thing of the McFarlane years. Maybe. Then we can have an imposing stature and some drool and fangs.

[Kritish]

I say no symbol, and no tongue. I'd actually rather see the symbol than the tongue. That freakin' tongue is just, well, weird. If they do tongue, maybe it should evolve. I'd like to see a Venom that goes from plain, like a shadow, taking over Brock, to the big hulking thing of the McFarlane years. Maybe. Then we can have an imposing stature and some drool and fangs.

It's an alien for god's sake of coarse it's supposed to look weird!

[zeptron]

I don't care how he looks as long as he has the tongue. He just has to do the tongue thing.

[Silverstein]

I say that Venom should start out with no symbol. But then maybe he'd defeat Spidey in a battle and claim to be the better of them. Thus he'd claim to be a better spider-man than spidey...So the symbol would appear. Then he'd just keep it the rest of the movie.

As for texture...Well it's a living suit. So it should look organic and look like it can move and stuff. In the comic he often has tendrils and stuff...So he has to look wet and slippery.

Venom has to look like Venom, or else it's not. If he has a texture like Spawn, and no spider...then why bother calling it Venom? Just call it Bob the builder and don't get our hopes up.

With Doc Ock, they kept the glasses/goggles...they kept the hair pretty similar...he looked like Doc Ock..Sandman in that picture looks like Sandman. So if Venom appears he should be Venom-tastic.

No ultimate Venom either. I've thought about it. I think they should keep with classic. Ultimate is sometimes disappointing.

[spider-jide]

Venom should look like the way he's always looked. That way, people cant argue that its not him or that sony/raimi got another thing wrong yet again.

[Chris Wallace]

Like that can really be prevented.

[Arkady Rossovich]

I hope he looks like he did during the comics,a muscular being,built with graphics to be similar to the Hulk.

[Bicranial]

It's an alien for god's sake of coarse it's supposed to look weird!


That's assuming Raimi uses the alien origin. And I don't mind weird, I just want believable. It doesn't have to make scientific sense, Raimi just has to make us believe it! And the tongue, ah, I don't really care. Let it whip out like a frog's and catch helicopters. Wicked.

[Venomsixx]

I think the 1988 look. It's an alien. It's not just going to be plain and simple.

[javi1024]

No ultimate Venom either. I've thought about it. I think they should keep with classic. Ultimate is sometimes disappointing.
i just dont see how they would introduce eddie brock and venom into one film with out taking the shorter story though. besides its not that far-fetched: an organic body suit that was made to cure cancer. it seems comic-reality possible and could give peter/eddie some kind of relationship since their fathers created it.

if they try and do the real story (1)it wont fit into one film and will be ruined (2)they would have to cut out alot and it wouldnt flow/make sense.

the only thing that i could think of is jameson going into space and the suit stowing away as the shuttle crash-lands into the hudson river. then eddie is on sight taking pictures and he finds the suit right away. but then that wouldnt really explain why it mimics spiderman or why eddie hates him so much.

[The_Guyver]

I think Sam Raimi will go with the Spider-Man TAS version of the symbiote saga, otherwise what would've been the point of introducing John Jameson if it could've been Harry MJ ran back to, was proposed to by, and ultimately left at the altar for Peter. 616 Venom is the way to go when the character is introduced.

[javi1024]

thats pretty much what i wrote above. but i dont think they could follow TAS and use hobgoblin and sandman fully.

this is how i think ^that^ would go:
-symbiote stows away on jameson's shuttle
-shuttle crash-lands on GW bridge- spidey to the rescue
-eddie pursues spidey to ID him and get his job back
-spidey finds suit- new abilities n rage
-sandman robs bank- spidey takes him out n more rage
-harry becomes hobgoblin n attacks spidey 2-3 times for revenge
-final showdown in church tower- eddie follows
-spidey dominates n almost kills harry- peter fights back
-clock strikes 12 n symbiote goes crazy
-spills away n finds brock- venom is born
-venom/symbiote already full of built-up rage and goes berserk on peter/harry
-peter eventually beats him- dunno what would happen to harry

this could work but it would either be a really long movIe or it would have to be a real short fight with venom in the very, very end. raimi will probably wanna explore the peter/harry relationship, which makes sense, but i wouldnt want venom to be short-changed like that n i dont think venom fans would either. i wanna see a cat-n-mouse thing with venom terrorizing spider-man cuz he hates him.

[Jason Martell]

Like that can really be prevented.

LOL! I don't know why, but that is real funny and true at the same time. No matter what he does people will complain, because it gives them something to talk about.

[Spideys Sister]

It should be like the Ultimate game version. he should only get the symbol after he tries to absorb Peter again. Note: I said again.

[spiderdroppings]

i think they should use the original venom!! all you guys that think topher grace will play venom will have us belive that verne troyer will play the king pin!!lol!!!http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/81/27/12m.jpg (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0873942/photogallery)

[Reptile]

if they did put the spider on the symbiote they should do it kinda like venom 2099
with the spider made of the webbing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/wardo_b/Venom2099.gif

http://www.samruby.com/Spider-Man2099/Large/2099Spiderman38a.JPG

[Venomsixx]

NOOOO


That looks like the new born alien!!!!

[White_Howling]

Venom 2099 had a very interesting look.. it worked for that comic line.. but the face .... hummmmmmm.. not my first choice in design

[ThePrincely1]

Has anyone seen the movie 'THE MASK' with jim carrey? The only reason I ask is because there are some ideas in there for venom. When the bad guy puts the mask on his voice changes, that would be a good way for venom to sound and the guys tongue becomes all snake-like, just like venoms but not as long. CG the tongue! Have the guys face come thorugh the mask as well, in some parts!

[Reptile]

not completly like venom 2099 just the look of the spider

[Hellsbuttmonkey]

This is how Venom should look

http://actuacine.net/concept-art/venom-big.jpg

[ngoc]

yes that is the one a slimy scaly texture good work on finding this venom

[Venomsixx]

THAT'S COOL
http://actuacine.net/concept-art/venom-big.jpg[/quote]

[Matt Murdock]

i like the way the teeth look in that pic, i think that he should appear not to have that much control over the suit though, like in USM and the original comics

[Matt Murdock]

thats pretty much what i wrote above. but i dont think they could follow TAS and use hobgoblin and sandman fully.

this is how i think ^that^ would go:
-symbiote stows away on jameson's shuttle
-shuttle crash-lands on GW bridge- spidey to the rescue
-eddie pursues spidey to ID him and get his job back
-spidey finds suit- new abilities n rage
-sandman robs bank- spidey takes him out n more rage
-harry becomes hobgoblin n attacks spidey 2-3 times for revenge
-final showdown in church tower- eddie follows
-spidey dominates n almost kills harry- peter fights back
-clock strikes 12 n symbiote goes crazy
-spills away n finds brock- venom is born
-venom/symbiote already full of built-up rage and goes berserk on peter/harry
-peter eventually beats him- dunno what would happen to harry

this could work but it would either be a really long movIe or it would have to be a real short fight with venom in the very, very end. raimi will probably wanna explore the peter/harry relationship, which makes sense, but i wouldnt want venom to be short-changed like that n i dont think venom fans would either. i wanna see a cat-n-mouse thing with venom terrorizing spider-man cuz he hates him.


i think you wanted to put this in the story idea thread?

[spideyboy_1111]

actually the symbol should be there.. only if it was on peter first.. due to it absorbing some of his mentality

[The Shredder]

Very nice Venom pic. :up:

[ZeroCorpse]

He should look like this ----->




(not there at all)

[Matt Murdock]

=-o


why is that?* Venom is a great villain and should at least get SOME screen treatment!

[spideyboy_1111]

o he should and will but why put spideys top 3 villains in the first 3 movies? ...its kinda stupid esp cramming one who needs alot of explination

[ShadowBoxing]

symbol better be there...the best thing about these movies so far is that Raimi actually seems to be pushing for original costumes....showing how well Spidey was recieved and how badly Goblin was panned...I say the closer you are to the comic the better

[JustABill]

I think he should look like Ultimate Venom, but retain the powers of 616 Venom.

[neosonic]

symbol better be there...the best thing about these movies so far is that Raimi actually seems to be pushing for original costumes....showing how well Spidey was recieved and how badly Goblin was panned...I say the closer you are to the comic the better

Totally agree.

[HourManRocks]

i like the way the teeth look in that pic, i think that he should appear not to have that much control over the suit though, like in USM and the original comics

i totally agree

[DJeevan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/DJeevan/Venom.jpg

[Arcturus]

^

Oooh, I dig!

:up:

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/DJeevan/Venom.jpg


Isn't that just a toy or something?

[ScottishFogg]

No symbol, but a lot like the licker on the resident evil movies .

he HAS to have the symbol! the symbol represents Venom almost more than the toothy grin and flickering tongue! all you have to see is that symbol, and you know "Venom!" it's as classic and recognizable as Superman and Batman's symbol (just about).

besides the aestethetic, if he didn't have the symbol, he'd just be a black blur. i think if we're going to be able to really see his movements and what's going on, he's going to have to have some sort of detail going on. just look at the Alien movies. the aliens are completely black, and it's hard to see what they're doing unless they're lit from every angle. it works for those movies, they're supposed to be scary/horror movies.

and i know, i know. Venom's supposed to be scary/horrorific too, but he has to fit into Spider-Man's world and have huge, kick-@$$ fights with him. how are we supposed to enjoy these fights if we're only able to see Spider-Man fighting a black mass? or worse yet, Spider-Man in the dark so we can barely see him, and only be able to see Venom's eyes and teeth? seeing his eye and teeth behind Spider-Man would be cool, but only as a reveal. not for his entire existence on screen.

so i say give him his symbol. make him look like Bagley did in his Amazing run back in the day.

[HourManRocks]

he HAS to have the symbol! the symbol represents Venom almost more than the toothy grin and flickering tongue! all you have to see is that symbol, and you know "Venom!" it's as classic and recognizable as Superman and Batman's symbol (just about).

besides the aestethetic, if he didn't have the symbol, he'd just be a black blur. i think if we're going to be able to really see his movements and what's going on, he's going to have to have some sort of detail going on. just look at the Alien movies. the aliens are completely black, and it's hard to see what they're doing unless they're lit from every angle. it works for those movies, they're supposed to be scary/horror movies.

and i know, i know. Venom's supposed to be scary/horrorific too, but he has to fit into Spider-Man's world and have huge, kick-@$$ fights with him. how are we supposed to enjoy these fights if we're only able to see Spider-Man fighting a black mass? or worse yet, Spider-Man in the dark so we can barely see him, and only be able to see Venom's eyes and teeth? seeing his eye and teeth behind Spider-Man would be cool, but only as a reveal. not for his entire existence on screen.

so i say give him his symbol. make him look like Bagley did in his Amazing run back in the day.


and of course if spidey's wearing a black costume, then it be a totally black screen!!

lol:D

[DTX]

how do you want venom to look like in the new movie


Let's see...how bout' NOT crappy?! :mad:

[ICXCNIKA]

How about this, by Tom Taggart? I think it's perfect.:up: http://www.tomtaggart.com/Images/P_Venom.jpg

[Guardian Enzo]

Symbol, not too much teeth/tongue. Kind of like the 94 spider-man series interpritation of Venom, not so much the comics/artists.

[DTX]

It HAS to look beleivable, ppl! Like you'd actually BELEIVE you could run into this guy in the street!

[Arcturus]

How about this, by Tom Taggart? I think it's perfect.:up: http://www.tomtaggart.com/Images/P_Venom.jpg

Hah, I have the very same poster on the wall in my bedroom. I've had that one for years.

:up:

[Matt Murdock]

You wouldnt run into venom on a street. See, hes kind of terrifying, so you would probably run away from him. The idea of a symbiotic creature living on a human being and giving them powers just isnt beleivable. Of course, he HAS to look like he could exist, just not in a "how are ya, neighbor?" sense.

[Timstuff]

Teh :eek:!

I've been away from this area for a while but now I'm back....

Here's my idea for Venom:)

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/1550/frenzyvenom7sq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[ICXCNIKA]

Hah, I have the very same poster on the wall in my bedroom. I've had that one for years.

:up:

That's the best-looking Venom ever, in my opinion!

[Nathan]

Venom definitely should have the Spider Symbol. But I don't want to have any spikey teeth, slobber, or a giant tongue.

He should start out like the McFarlane Venom with a nice, big, white, grin and then evolve into a monster like the Bagley Venom.

http://membres.lycos.fr/stephmas78/marvel/v/venom.JPG http://www.leaderslair.com/spider-man/amazing/amspider-man374pic1.gif

[Arcturus]

That's the best-looking Venom ever, in my opinion!

Couldn't agree more!

:up:

[Iron Fist.]

like this, of course:venom:

http://spideydude.com/venswingwide-ani.gif

[Matt Murdock]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/DJeevan/Venom.jpg

smaller teeth, and then its perfect

[Andy C.]

I've never been that big a fan of the big-snarling-monster Venom, mainly because a lot of the time it seems like people lose track of the fact that there's still a guy in there. Sure, having a head with a massive slavering jaw looks scary, but where's Eddie's head in the middle of all that?

I'd go with something closer to the MacFarlane Venom, just a bigger nastier Spider-Man with fangs.

[fangrl06]

This is how Venom should look

http://actuacine.net/concept-art/venom-big.jpg
I'm liking this one...

[Matt Murdock]

i think the hands look big on that one.

[V3NOM]

This The Real Venom

[Cyclops]

Make your time you have no chance to survive.

All your base are belong to us.

[V3NOM]

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=4/9201470217.jpg&s=x11

[V3NOM]

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=4/9201470217.jpg&s=x11

[Masta_mind257]

Venom has the spider sign coz when he's on spiderman the symbiote probably keeps the sign when he moves onto brock, so keep the symbol

[FredL]

venom should be like he looks in the comics.
I agree with the someone who talked about SPAWN, becuase when I saw spawn , I was thinking this is how the costume can look for venom... If they modify it abit! .... it must look like a suit and then move like the symbiote does.... the symbiote can form itselfs into any kind of clothing and thus even if it is an alien, it is still a suit.. so there.. to those who says otherwise...
i really hope they make him really good, if they cant then they should NOT use him!!

[Nathan]

I finally found the picture I was looking for all this time. It's the perfect look in my opinion.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v385/Dusk/th_PerfectVenom.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v385/Dusk/PerfectVenom.jpg)

[klown23]

I finally found the picture I was looking for all this time. It's the perfect look in my opinion.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v385/Dusk/th_PerfectVenom.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v385/Dusk/PerfectVenom.jpg)

Totally agree with you for the pic...

My opinion of this topic? If the symbiote is 'alive' and merges with Parker, he will keep something of peter... a memory... a symbol... webbing. Eddie Brock didnt had spider-powers, but went bulidings to buildings around the city with web as Venom. Brock didnt relate to a spider... the suit? Yes it does, cause of Peter. That's why Venom has spider-man's habilities and kinda logo costume. The symbiote relates to Parker. That's why Brock knows all Parker's secrets and feelings.

Venom without his spider logo? Gonna take a good explanation in the movie to make me like it.

[50cent]

nice pic

[pucky]

Venom should look like the eric larsen version only WITHOUT the symbol....I want him to be a scary MONSTER not just a dude in a costume....I want to be afraid of venom and I want to think "whoa, spidey might not get out of this one" when i'm watching it. For once, I want a scary bad guy, not a cheesy rehash of all the other bad guys who have a "master plan" in every other comic. All Venom should be is a monster obsessed with ripping spiderman apart. No symbol, no cheesy "I want to eat your brain" lines, just a pure animailistic killing machine!! SCARE ME RAIMI!!

[Nebins]

Venom shouldn't be as huge as he is in the comics. It wouldn't translate well to the "realistic" world of the movies. He should definitely be bigger than Spidey though and have the symbol.

[ICXCNIKA]

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=spiderman+3+venom/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/;_ylt=A9iby4U02j5EGgsA6rqjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNW N0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12p7nvb24/EXP=1145056180/*-http%3A//www.spyder-25.com/covers/venom_vs_carnage/venom_carnage_03.jpg
Interesting picture I found.
And another one. Sorry they don't show up here.
http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/previews/1104/VENOM_vol_3.jpg

[trustyside-kick]

I hope he looks like he did during the comics,a muscular being,built with graphics to be similar to the Hulk.

I would hate it if they made Venom to be as big as Hulk was. They should just have him to be way taller then Spidey, and obviously muscular.