The Sarah Connor Chronicles

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Andy Vajna and Mario Kassar's C2 Pictures, which produced Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, has pacted with Warner Bros. TV and writer Josh Friedman (War of the Worlds) for Fox's tentatively titled The Sarah Connor Chronicles. The Fox series will focus on robo-warrior Sarah Connor and her savior son John Connor.

Variety reports that Friedman will write the pilot and serve as executive producer-showrunner of the series, which will take place in the fictional time frame between the second and third "Terminator" features. Vajna and Kassar will serve as executive producers, with C2 senior vice president of development James Middleton also producing.

In addition, Vajna confirmed that C2 is in "the final phases of development" of a fourth "Terminator" film and that the series will have a link to what's being envisioned as a new feature trilogy.

"There will be a connection," Middleton said. Linda Hamilton is not expected to be involved in The Sarah Connor Chronicles. And because the series will be focused on the Connor family, it's not anticipated that Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger would be a regular part of the series either.

Middleton said the series will explore what happened to Sarah Connor after the end of "T2," when the character went on the run. "She has the weight of the world on her shoulder and she also has to raise a 14-year-old son who may be the salvation of the world," he said.

Friedman said his "challenge is trying to figure out how to reinterpret (Connor) for television."

Because the "Terminator" franchise involves time travel and alternate futures, Friedman believe he'll be able to take a few plot liberties in the series -- emphasis on "few."

"The last thing I want to do is take a title and exploit it," Friedman said. "The show needs to stand on its own while still being respectful of the franchise."

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=11940

[Sava]

thats what Terminator needs... more crapy stories :up:

[Wolfwood]

I don't know, doesn't seem to interesting. I mean, what's a Terminator without a Terminator?

[Kable24]

I don't know, doesn't seem to interesting. I mean, what's a Terminator without a Terminator?


Exactly. :up:

[TheVileOne]

Ugh. This does NOT sound like a rise.

[WallCrawl]

Ugh. This does NOT sound like a rise.

More like the exact opposite if you ask me.

[black_dust]

shot them slefs in the foot when they made t3 now they are trying to saw the leg off ;)

[UltimateJustin]

It sounds intelligent.

[amazingfantasy15]

"The last thing I want to do is take a title and exploit it,"

Uh, that's what you're doing though!

I think it'd be much better if the timeframe of this took place between T1 and T2, when she was still freaked about Judgement Day and training John. How exciting can a show about a Sarah Conner who thinks Judgement Day won't happen anymore? What show her waiting for John to come home for school with a pot roast in the oven?

[black_dust]

"The last thing I want to do is take a title and exploit it,"

Uh, that's what you're doing though!

I think it'd be much better if the timeframe of this took place between T1 and T2, when she was still freaked about Judgement Day and training John. How exciting can a show about a Sarah Conner who thinks Judgement Day won't happen anymore? What show her waiting for John to come home for school with a pot roast in the oven?
You see thats much better, they could show the men she shacked up with and how she ended up in the nut house :)

[Lord Blackbolt]

This is not a good idea. If anything... a series base on the Future war is a better story. And even that shouldn't be a live action...cause it'll cost too much. They should do a CGI animated series set in the Future. Cause The guy playing Kyle reese is too old.

[Triligors]

Andy Vajna and Mario Kassar's C2 Pictures, which produced Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, has pacted with Warner Bros. TV and writer Josh Friedman (War of the Worlds) for Fox's tentatively titled The Sarah Connor Chronicles. The Fox series will focus on robo-warrior Sarah Connor and her savior son John Connor.

Variety reports that Friedman will write the pilot and serve as executive producer-showrunner of the series, which will take place in the fictional time frame between the second and third "Terminator" features. Vajna and Kassar will serve as executive producers, with C2 senior vice president of development James Middleton also producing.

"There will be a connection," Middleton said. Linda Hamilton is not expected to be involved in The Sarah Connor Chronicles. And because the series will be focused on the Connor family, it's not anticipated that Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger would be a regular part of the series either.

Middleton said the series will explore what happened to Sarah Connor after the end of "T2," when the character went on the run. "She has the weight of the world on her shoulder and she also has to raise a 14-year-old son who may be the salvation of the world," he said.

Friedman said his "challenge is trying to figure out how to reinterpret (Connor) for television."

Because the "Terminator" franchise involves time travel and alternate futures, Friedman believe he'll be able to take a few plot liberties in the series -- emphasis on "few."

"The last thing I want to do is take a title and exploit it," Friedman said. "The show needs to stand on its own while still being respectful of the franchise."

This sounds interesting and very possible to be a success. Love the idea. Terminator: The Series. Even if it's not Arnold exactly, as we all know- there's tons of machines out there just waiting for their time to strike. Should be fun.

[deathshead2]

:down :mad: bad idea

[Carter]

Theres potential here, but I don't think it'll be realized.
I don't see it working.

And if it does make it's way on tv by some miracle, I think it'll be under-appreciated and be canceled within 2 seasons.

[ShadowBoxing]

oh God...no more pain

[Triligors]

well, it said no more Arnold Terminator. Which there are evidently many more models, such as the villain of T2 and villainess of T3. Meaning many different types of Terminator, just not those that look exactly like the governator.

[Ronny Shade]

I've always had thoughts of a Terminator TV show.

Of course I always thought itd be a sitcom with Arnold as the dad, Sarah/Linda as mom as they live with their son John Connor and all fight a new robot each week that is sent to kill young John.

That's quality televison

[Caliber]

It could be good if its given a chance.

[The Phantom]

The only actress I can see playing Sarah Conner in a television series is Michelle Rodriguez.

[Carter]

The only actress I can see playing Sarah Conner in a television series is Michelle Rodriguez.

She's really hispanic though. She's tough and hot to boot, but I dont really see any Sarah Connor in her

[Speedball]

Serenity Comes to Sarah Connor
Firefly veteran Summer Glau joins the Terminator TV project, but who is she playing?
by Eric Goldman

February 8, 2007 - Yesterday we spoke to Summer Glau for an interview for IGN TV that will be appearing on our site early next week. The actress, currently appearing on The Unit and best known for her role as River Tam in Joss Whedon's Firefly and its film sequel Serenity apologized for being, "a little bit blurry," noting that she was in the midst of shooting a pilot and had been up until five or six in the morning shooting that morning. "But it was fun! We were doing fun stuff," she added, saying, "I'm really excited about it. I think it's going to be awesome. I'm having a wonderful time."

When we pressed for details on what the pilot was, Glau replied, "Well, I'm not supposed to say yet. It's supposed to be a surprise. But it's killing me, because they've announced some of the other characters, but I'm not supposed to say. My character is a surprise." However, she did tell us the pilot was for FOX.

Immediately we couldn't help think that she was likely referring to The Sarah Connor Chronicles. The Terminator spinoff was set to shoot about now, and the mentions Glau made of working on a FOX pilot with action elements fit the bill.

Well as it turns out, we've discovered that last week Variety did indeed note, in the midst of a pilot update piece, that Glau is part of the cast of The Sarah Connor Chronicles, so what project she is working on can be laid to rest. However, this begs the question of what character she is playing, and why the need for secrecy, when they've announced other actors and the characters they play, such as Thomas Dekker as John Connor and Lena Headey in the title role as Sarah.

Given Glau's very impressive background doing fight scenes, and the fact that she played something of a programmed killer in Serenity, our minds have started to wander… and we can't help think, what would a Sarah Connor story be, without a Terminator in the midst? This is just our speculation mind you, and Glau could be playing any number of characters the Connor family encounters. Assuming The Sarah Connor Chronicles is picked up, we will hopefully find out the secret of Glau's role in the coming months.

Summer Glau as a Terminator...didn't see that one coming!
Now I can't wait to see this :woot:

[Prognosticator]

I could see this being the type of suckfest crapola that no matter what I think, I can't stop myself from watching.

*Cough* Smallville *Cough*

[kainedamo]

So the first episode was pretty good. And dare I say it, better than T3.

I mean, in the first episode they take advantage of the continuity of the first two movies way better than T3 did. In fact, T3 barely remarked on the first two movies at all. In the tv show, they went as far as having Sarah and John visit Miles Dyson's house again! Excellent nod to continuity. The action is decent. The actors are decent. In fact, they're probably better actors than the ones chosen for T3.

I'd give it about 8 out of 10.

[Dugath]

She's really hispanic though. She's tough and hot to boot, but I dont really see any Sarah Connor in her

Throw in the fact she can not act as well.

[DocHoliday]

So the first episode was pretty good. And dare I say it, better than T3.

I mean, in the first episode they take advantage of the continuity of the first two movies way better than T3 did. In fact, T3 barely remarked on the first two movies at all. In the tv show, they went as far as having Sarah and John visit Miles Dyson's house again! Excellent nod to continuity. The action is decent. The actors are decent. In fact, they're probably better actors than the ones chosen for T3.

I'd give it about 8 out of 10.

Yeah I can't wait for this show. Good or bad it'll be good to have The Terminator back.

[Speedball]

So the first episode was pretty good. And dare I say it, better than T3.

I mean, in the first episode they take advantage of the continuity of the first two movies way better than T3 did. In fact, T3 barely remarked on the first two movies at all. In the tv show, they went as far as having Sarah and John visit Miles Dyson's house again! Excellent nod to continuity. The action is decent. The actors are decent. In fact, they're probably better actors than the ones chosen for T3.

I'd give it about 8 out of 10.
Wait...Where did you see the pilot?

[Tempest19]

online, go to demonoid.com. It's been online for a long time.

[GoldGoblin]

online, go to demonoid.com. It's been online for a long time.

^
Is that the only place to see it,and when does it air on t.v.?

[JustABill]

It's going to be a mid season replacement apparently.

[Tempest19]

Apparently there is already advertising on FOX for the series, anyone see red dots during FOX programs recently? Well, that wasn't a part of the program or your imagination it was the TERMINATOR!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=19442031

I stumbled upon this while surfing on imdb and then looked it up on google and apparently many people have noticed these red eyes everywhere. I personally only saw them once on PRISON BREAK.

[Angelus7181]

Apparently there is already advertising on FOX for the series, anyone see red dots during FOX programs recently? Well, that wasn't a part of the program or your imagination it was the TERMINATOR!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=19442031

I stumbled upon this while surfing on imdb and then looked it up on google and apparently many people have noticed these red eyes everywhere. I personally only saw them once on PRISON BREAK.

That is freaking AWSOME!

Kind of scary also... I hardly watch FOX anymore but seems like I will be soon enough! :woot:

Here's another take during prison break (I think): http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=19726287

[Arkady Rossovich]

This will be a quick failure.

[Spider-Vader]

It said Arnie wouldn't be regularly involved so maybe he'll be in 1 or 2 episodes? :D

[black_dust]

I just saw the Piolt on stage6, was alright fair sight better than T3 and had the right feel to the film. Some of it was off in places (but thats just me being a fanboy)

But if i see this on tv i will give it a watch!

When does it start anyway?

[Spider-Vader]

Middle-End of the season.

I hope the "eyes" appear during the Simpsons or Family Guy. The only shows (besides American Idol) I watch on Fox, until this airs. :)

[Hypestyle]

say, wasn't this supposed to be out already? what happened? did it get delayed to mid-season?

[Kingfish]

pretty sure it started as a mid-season.

the pilot was good, i'll definately watch it.

[Spider-Vader]

I saw a commercial with the eyes blinking during football today.

[Shoemeister]

I saw a commercial with the eyes blinking during football today.

Yeah, I saw this too.

[fabman]

I've seen a trailer after I did an online survey... could be either good or total crap. The guy who played Claire's friend on Heroes Volume 1 is playing John Connor.

[Darkfly]

saw the pilot was better than I hoped for but still mediocre at best. But I'll be watching it just for the hot Summer Glau alone.

[Dave McFly]

saw the pilot was better than I hoped for but still mediocre at best. But I'll be watching it just for the hot Summer Glau alone.

http://i7.tinypic.com/6gus5dd.jpg

word :woot:

[Darkfly]

that picture doesn't do Summer justice so I post some of myfav's from my personal Summer collection...

http://i17.tinypic.com/526ldp1.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/4l5bjio.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/5ytcpc8.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/4z39ctv.jpg
http://i19.tinypic.com/5xot1fr.jpg

[Lord Blackbolt]

http://i7.tinypic.com/6gus5dd.jpg

word :woot:


Did she get implants...her boobs look bigger?

[black_dust]

Maybe she just filled out haha, or its a padded bra

[JustABill]

Summer is not hot to me. She's an amazing actress though.

[Darkfly]

Did she get implants...her boobs look bigger?

No she hasn't just they tarted her up a little bit for that pic. She's still reasonably flat chested as always but I still love her.

[Webhead2006]

yea i cant wait for the show to start in jan. originally it was set for fall but got pushed back when the pilot had to be reshot for a few scenes and the evil terminator in the pilot was recasted. I did see the unaired pilot a few months back and i thought it was pretty good. I am glad that t3 events dont happen in the show's timeline. I do hope fox gives the show a chance. Also it would be great if arnie was able to appear at somepoint as the t101 but highly doubtful since he is still governer. At the most i could see the show producers probably getting robert patrick(t1000) to probably appear since he does tv shows nowadays and all that. any one see this pic of the actor who is the new evil terminator for the pilot episode:
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/ewsarahconnor2.jpg

[Wolfwood]

Those little red eye things are pretty creepy and a brilliant way of teasing the show. :up:

[daywalker2007]

what is the point of this series, its a waste of time.

terminator and t2 were enough.

T3 already pissed on Cameron's work, and now we have this.

The whole story of the Terminator has been watered down for todays MTV reality audiences.

The original Terminator movie was a gruesome, violent low budget sci fi masterpiece with nasty and powerful synthesized music.

T2 expanded, taking advantage of more gruesome, violent and epic action with state of the art sfx, and an even better synthesized music score.

Then we got T3, a ****ty movie for the MTV reality audiences, watered down and with a bloody orchestral score.

Now we have this series, even more watered down, with campy actors and pointles story lines which nobody wants to see.

On top of that, its on Fox network. oh dear.

[black_dust]

what is the point of this series, its a waste of time.

terminator and t2 were enough.

T3 already pissed on Cameron's work, and now we have this.

The whole story of the Terminator has been watered down for todays MTV reality audiences.

The original Terminator movie was a gruesome, violent low budget sci fi masterpiece with nasty and powerful synthesized music.

T2 expanded, taking advantage of more gruesome, violent and epic action with state of the art sfx, and an even better synthesized music score.

Then we got T3, a ****ty movie for the MTV reality audiences, watered down and with a bloody orchestral score.

Now we have this series, even more watered down, with campy actors and pointles story lines which nobody wants to see.

On top of that, its on Fox network. oh dear.

Well im a massive fan of both T1 and T2 and i saw the Pilot a few months back and i thought it was pretty dam cool

[fu manchu]

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/ewsarahconnor2.jpg

hahahaha.....creepy. is that a pickle on his head?

[Dave McFly]

Did she get implants...her boobs look bigger?

no it is a push up bra, that picture was a publicity shot for a tv movie she did where she was in a college sorority and there was a killer going after her and others.

[BeserkerHilf]

what is the point of this series, its a waste of time.

terminator and t2 were enough.

T3 already pissed on Cameron's work, and now we have this.

The whole story of the Terminator has been watered down for todays MTV reality audiences.

The original Terminator movie was a gruesome, violent low budget sci fi masterpiece with nasty and powerful synthesized music.

T2 expanded, taking advantage of more gruesome, violent and epic action with state of the art sfx, and an even better synthesized music score.

Then we got T3, a ****ty movie for the MTV reality audiences, watered down and with a bloody orchestral score.

Now we have this series, even more watered down, with campy actors and pointles story lines which nobody wants to see.

On top of that, its on Fox network. oh dear.


well don't worry, it'll be canceled before we see a majority of these pointless storylines.

...or does cancellation only happen to FOX shows with promise?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

no it is a push up bra, that picture was a publicity shot for a tv movie she did where she was in a college sorority and there was a killer going after her and others.

When did they make Scream 4 :wow:

[Apollo]

i doubt this will last over 1 season.

[Spider-Vader]

what is the point of this series, its a waste of time.

terminator and t2 were enough.

T3 already pissed on Cameron's work, and now we have this.

The whole story of the Terminator has been watered down for todays MTV reality audiences.

The original Terminator movie was a gruesome, violent low budget sci fi masterpiece with nasty and powerful synthesized music.

T2 expanded, taking advantage of more gruesome, violent and epic action with state of the art sfx, and an even better synthesized music score.

Then we got T3, a ****ty movie for the MTV reality audiences, watered down and with a bloody orchestral score.

Now we have this series, even more watered down, with campy actors and pointles story lines which nobody wants to see.

On top of that, its on Fox network. oh dear.

I don't understand the hate for T3. I thought it was great.

[Mr. Socko]

The new Terminator looks terrible. Is he suppose to be T-101!?

[hlbimage]

there was a new commmercial that aired tonight and you can view or download it here (http://terminatorcommercials.blogspot.com)

[Mr. Socko]

Actually looked cool. Who's play John in this?

[Dave McFly]

Thomas Dekker aka claire's friend from season 1 of Heroes. and i dont think it is a T-101, as the 101 was arnold's model number. it may be the same series which was 800, hell it could be a 102 or a 103, etc ;).

[Webhead2006]

I thought the pilot was pretty good when i got ahold of it a few months back. I cant wait to see it officially in jan to see how the new actor playing the evil terminator is like cause i didnt like the original guy they had. Also i cant wait to see what was changed since they had to reshot a few scenes from the pilot. The only nitpick i have from the unaired pilot i hope gets fixed before it airs officially was this. During one scene in 1999 the fbi guy who is trailing sarah mentions the desctruction of cyberdyne happened 2 yrs before the show which is wrong and it is really 5 yrs in 99 from what it was blown cause t2 was set in 94. I really hope someone caught this mistake and it is easily fixed.

[daywalker2007]

I thought the pilot was pretty good when i got ahold of it a few months back. I cant wait to see it officially in jan to see how the new actor playing the evil terminator is like cause i didnt like the original guy they had. Also i cant wait to see what was changed since they had to reshot a few scenes from the pilot. The only nitpick i have from the unaired pilot i hope gets fixed before it airs officially was this. During one scene in 1999 the fbi guy who is trailing sarah mentions the desctruction of cyberdyne happened 2 yrs before the show which is wrong and it is really 5 yrs in 99 from what it was blown cause t2 was set in 94. I really hope someone caught this mistake and it is easily fixed.

i don't think they can rectify such a mistake. they don't have enough brain and mental capacity to do that. After all, it is on Fox network.

And that Terminator make up in that pic above looks pathetic. Worse than an 80s B movie horror. I've seen better makeup done by amateurs.

Also, has anyone heard the rumour that because of today's MTV reality audiences, apparently, John and Sarah have to deal with a Gay Terminator sent to kill them.

It is supposed to be a season finale.

great stuff from Fox.

[black_dust]

Thomas Dekker aka claire's friend from season 1 of Heroes. and i dont think it is a T-101, as the 101 was arnold's model number. it may be the same series which was 800, hell it could be a 102 or a 103, etc ;).

:UP: you speak the truth :) makes me sad when people dont know that its T-800 model 101 not a T-101 lol

[Webhead2006]

well people usually make that mistake cause usually only the name t 101 was said. in the movies.

[CFE]

Wait, when the hell did they show the pilot?

:huh:

CFE

[Darkfly]

on some site, you can also download it but I'm sure you don't need somebody like me to tell you where.

[black_dust]

well people usually make that mistake cause usually only the name t 101 was said. in the movies.

Only in the ****ty 3rd film where they dont know their ass from their elbow!

"Cyberdine systems model 101" - T2

T-600 Rubber skin one
T-800 Arnie
T-1000 Rob



Yeah the pilot leaked i saw it on the net

[Webhead2006]

but the aired pilot will be slightly different from the leaked one with some scenes got reshot and the actor who played the evil terminator in the pilot was Yea and the evil/good terminator models will probably be different model then arnie t-800 101 model and all that. I believe the producers of the show are fans of the series so they probably wont make mistake on model numbers. And as i mentioned before in the leaked pilot they made a goof during one of the 99 scenes saying cyberdyne was destroyed 2 yrs before the show started when it is 5 yrs really. Since t2 was set in 94 and the show starts in 99. I think if someone did catch the mistake they could easily dub the line out and replace it with 5 yrs instead of two yrs.

[Metamorpho1977]

This could be a really cool tv show.

[Golgo-13]

There's only one reason i might tune into this show; LENA HEADEY.

[Mr. Socko]

I didn't realize that was Thomas Dekker! I love him. And Lena Headey was great in 300.

I just hope the Terminator himself isn't crap, this could be a winner.

[CFE]

This could be a really cool tv show.

I didn't realize that was Thomas Dekker! I love him. And Lena Headey was great in 300.

I just hope the Terminator himself isn't crap, this could be a winner.

"Could" being the word of the day, of course...

CFE

[Son of Sun]

Initial thoughts: Hmm...

Then I noticed Summer Glau and ran away.

[CFE]

I personally lost hope for it when they showed the teeny bopper chick terminator say "Come with me if you want to live."

:dry:

A line of dialogue written by James Cameron and made iconic by both Michael Biehn and Arnold...and it gets reduced into THAT...

:whatever:

CFE

[Darkfly]

There's only one reason i might tune into this show; LENA HEADEY.

And Summer Glau, nmmmm

[DACrowe]

Well I watched the pilot online last month. It was surprisingly good. I'm just not sure how this show could last more than a season or two without the setory running htin or recycling itself (which is a variation on the story of Terminator 2 in a lot of ways). Headley is good and fills Linda Hamilton's boots well, but Hamilton is still missed. The new John is okay but had actually little to do in the pilot than look weighed down by life and destiny.

But the story was satisfying and serious enough that it exceeds the self-parody that was the awful T3. The climax was surprising and took the show in a new direction got around the "period piece" setting in a clever way. Summer Glau is an underrated TV actress and is good in the very limited role here. I hope she eventually gets a part that thinks of her more thn a femme ass kicker (yeah River is a very complex and great character, but only Joss and his fans see that as TV producers keep recasting her as a stereotypical nutjob or killing machine...literally).

The show could be good, but I don't see the premise allowing for a show with longevity...but knowing Fox that won't matter because anything with potential must be stamped out with extreme prejudice to make way for bad reality television.

[Mr. Socko]

I personally lost hope for it when they showed the teeny bopper chick terminator say "Come with me if you want to live."

:dry:

A line of dialogue written by James Cameron and made iconic by both Michael Biehn and Arnold...and it gets reduced into THAT...

:whatever:

CFE


OMG! I just saw the trailer. That one line ruined the entire thing:dry:

Seriously, was that needed. I was liking the trailer until she showed up in the truck and said that. They better take that out.

I lost hope after that bit too.

[Arkady Rossovich]

This won't last long.

[Lord Blackbolt]

OMG! I just saw the trailer. That one line ruined the entire thing:dry:

Seriously, was that needed. I was liking the trailer until she showed up in the truck and said that. They better take that out.

I lost hope after that bit too.

What's so bad about it? Just cause the terminater looks like a girl? All the protectors of the future say it.

[black_dust]

What's so bad about it? Just cause the terminater looks like a girl? All the protectors of the future say it.

So John can say it to a young reese so he can say it to Sarah and the loop goes on :)

[Mr. Socko]

What's so bad about it? Just cause the terminater looks like a girl? All the protectors of the future say it.


lol, I thought it was a gurl:oldrazz:

[phoenixflight]

Those Terminator posters (for the TV show) look amazing. Can someone post them here for ALL to see...

[Hypestyle]

hopefully the strike won't doom the show.. i'd like to see it continue for several years.. develop new, human villains, don't rely on just terminator threats.. have lots of X-Files intrigue..

[phoenixflight]

Here are 3 of 4 posters for the new series. Absolutely love them!!

They are really doing a nice marketing job for the show thus far...let's hope it's good. Terminator 4 is on the horizon if this show does really well!!

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2185/poster1gt4.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3630/poster2rk0.jpg

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1589/poster3zp1.jpg

[Speedball]

JEBUS CHRIST!!!
They're f***ing amazing!
Especially the Sarah Conner one.

[The Chris]

I would reall love it if this show used the terminator theme. Oh, and the posters are great.

[Mr. Socko]

The show better use the Terminator theme! It must!


I love the Sarah Connor poster, it's fantastic. Not a big fan of the others. I don't really like female Terminators. As you can obviously tell with the last poster, they only make the Terminators female for sex appeal. Just like they did with T3. Movies like MIIB suffered from the exact same fate, as well. There's no denying it.

[The Chris]

The show better use the Terminator theme! It must!


I love the Sarah Connor poster, it's fantastic. Not a big fan of the others. I don't really like female Terminators. As you can obviously tell with the last poster, they only make the Terminators female for sex appeal. Just like they did with T3. Movies like MIIB suffered from the exact same fate, as well. There's no denying it.

That Sarah Connor poster is so T2. It's definately the best one.

[phoenixflight]

Finally, here is the 4th and final poster that was intorduced in Entertainment Weekly...ALL these poster are truly amazing!!!

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5171/terminlb5.jpg

[Lord Blackbolt]

The show better use the Terminator theme! It must!


I love the Sarah Connor poster, it's fantastic. Not a big fan of the others. I don't really like female Terminators. As you can obviously tell with the last poster, they only make the Terminators female for sex appeal. Just like they did with T3. Movies like MIIB suffered from the exact same fate, as well. There's no denying it.


What's wrong with Sex appeal. The guy terminators are done for sex appeal too. They don't make them ugly scrawny guys.

[Silvermoth]

Actually, none of the male terminators are sexy. Just bulky and robotic

[Kanon]

I love the Sarah poster!

[Darkfly]

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1589/poster3zp1.jpg

It's like Summer almost topless, why the tease its not right.

[fu manchu]

nice posters.:yay:

[Arkady Rossovich]

I would say that last one is a little disturbing.

[union_jak]

Looks alright, hope it'll be aired in the UK not too long after the US.

[black_dust]

Looks alright, hope it'll be aired in the UK not too long after the US.

Watch it online haha i am :p



THOSE POSTERS! are cool as hell, i really like the one of half naked summer. wow :wow:

[Rac]

****ing awesome posters! Don't like the fourth one though. Bad photoshopping.

[Golgo-13]

Headey looks hot, as usual and the previews for this show look promising. My only concern is that the events of this show are gonna f-up the continuity within T3. I could have sworn that during Conners (Stahls) monologue at the beginning of T3 he said the last Terminator that came after him, was the T-1000..or something to that effect. :huh:

[Mr. Socko]

What's wrong with Sex appeal. The guy terminators are done for sex appeal too. They don't make them ugly scrawny guys.


Schwarzenegger, Patrick, Biehn, were not cast or written in the movies for sex appeal as say, Kristanna Loken was. Recall the ridiculous scene in which the cop goes up to her and her breasts inflate to a larger size. Again, MIIB suffered from the exact same problem. Instead of writing good solid characters, let's just slap a bimbo lingerie model in there with a nice rack and make her the main villain.

If they're going to make one of the Terminators a female then at least make her appear strong or imposing.

[Lord Blackbolt]

Well...part of the reason they made the terminators were cause they were suppose to blend in. Personally, I think a sexy girl can blend into anyplace...bascially they're more deadly cause no one expects them to be a killer.

[Webhead2006]

Headey looks hot, as usual and the previews for this show look promising. My only concern is that the events of this show are gonna f-up the continuity within T3. I could have sworn that during Conners (Stahls) monologue at the beginning of T3 he said the last Terminator that came after him, was the T-1000..or something to that effect. :huh:
i guess u didnt know this bit of news. Its been confirmed by many sources the show takes places after the events of t1 and t2 and starts off 5 yrs after t2 which was set in 1994 and the show will start in 1999. The events of t3 dont happen in the show and all that. The producers of the show said they didnt not want it in same timeline as t3 and stating t3 events happened in an alternate timeline. It is a smart move making the show based after the events of t1 and t2 and not have t3 apart of the timeline in the show cause most terminator fans hated t3. I thought it was a good movie but had many bad and good parts to it.

[zanos]

Schwarzenegger, Patrick, Biehn, were not cast or written in the movies for sex appeal as say, Kristanna Loken was. Recall the ridiculous scene in which the cop goes up to her and her breasts inflate to a larger size. Again, MIIB suffered from the exact same problem. Instead of writing good solid characters, let's just slap a bimbo lingerie model in there with a nice rack and make her the main villain.

If they're going to make one of the Terminators a female then at least make her appear strong or imposing.

You mean like Lena Headey? Sorry they already cast her as Sarah Connor.

[black_dust]

i guess u didnt know this bit of news. Its been confirmed by many sources the show takes places after the events of t1 and t2 and starts off 5 yrs after t2 which was set in 1994 and the show will start in 1999. The events of t3 dont happen in the show and all that. The producers of the show said they didnt not want it in same timeline as t3 and stating t3 events happened in an alternate timeline. It is a smart move making the show based after the events of t1 and t2 and not have t3 apart of the timeline in the show cause most terminator fans hated t3. I thought it was a good movie but had many bad and good parts to it.

No what he is saying is that in the opening of T3 John was talking about the terminators sent back to kill him and his mother (the ones from T1 and 2) so more terminators are sent back in the show Plus they go forward in time to 1997! and there is no mention of it in T3 which makes it all very confussing and make it even worse when t4 comes out

[Rac]

T3 ****ed the timeline already. It's only a good thing it will be "skipped".

[Golgo-13]

i guess u didnt know this bit of news. Its been confirmed by many sources the show takes places after the events of t1 and t2 and starts off 5 yrs after t2 which was set in 1994 and the show will start in 1999. The events of t3 dont happen in the show and all that. The producers of the show said they didnt not want it in same timeline as t3 and stating t3 events happened in an alternate timeline. It is a smart move making the show based after the events of t1 and t2 and not have t3 apart of the timeline in the show cause most terminator fans hated t3. I thought it was a good movie but had many bad and good parts to it.

Alternate timeline. O.K that clear it up.

Hated T3 anyhow....

No what he is saying is that in the opening of T3 John was talking about the terminators sent back to kill him and his mother (the ones from T1 and 2) so more terminators are sent back in the show Plus they go forward in time to 1997! and there is no mention of it in T3 which makes it all very confussing and make it even worse when t4 comes out

Why would it be confusing if the events of T3 haven't even happened yet during the show..?

[Darkfly]

Alternate timeline. O.K that clear it up.

Hated T3 anyhow....



Why would it be confusing if the events of T3 haven't even happened yet during the show..?

like your signature, I grew up in the same city as INDIRA VARMA, Bath, Somerset, UK.

[Golgo-13]

like your signature, I grew up in the same city as INDIRA VARMA, Bath, Somerset, UK.

Thanks. :up:

I grew up in Ilford, Essex.

[BenReilly]

Terminator 3 will be completely ignored by this show, so they can pretty much continue Sarah and John's story and way they please.

Series Creator Josh Friedman talked about this in an interview a while back:

http://tv.ign.com/articles/798/798086p1.html

IGN TV: Are you working within the continuity of the Terminator movies, specifically Terminator 3?

Friedman: We're gonna go off on our own. I think the thing about T3 is, obviously there was just no Sarah Connor and that's something the fans were never happy with. I don't even think the people who made T3 were happy with that. It just wasn't a choice of theirs. You know, Linda Hamilton was going through some things and didn't want to be a part of it. They had a script at one point I know; there was a T3 that had Sarah in it. I've never read it. I don't know anything about it. But I know that they did and they wanted to do that. They wanted it to be kind of her trilogy, and it never could be. So I think that my feeling was this TV series to me sort of serves as the third act to that trilogy - what could have happened had we followed that after T2. So I almost think of this as T3. To me it takes the place of T3. But also I think that sort of in the spirit of Terminator, it's an alternate timeline. I know a lot of people get very worked up about the continuity and the canon and all that stuff. What I try to do is stay very, very true to the first two movies and then sort of take it from there. But always remain true to the spirit of everyone's intent and again, take some time with this woman and explore what maybe would have happened.

IGN TV: So we shouldn't expect her to get leukemia in Season 3?

Friedman: You should not expect her to get leukemia in Season 3… Unless Lena really pisses me off.

[daywalker2007]

The show better use the Terminator theme! It must!


I love the Sarah Connor poster, it's fantastic. Not a big fan of the others. I don't really like female Terminators. As you can obviously tell with the last poster, they only make the Terminators female for sex appeal. Just like they did with T3. Movies like MIIB suffered from the exact same fate, as well. There's no denying it.

i don't know what is more disgraceful,
the fact that they are raping the Terminator franchise even further by giving us this MTV Teen Audience PG Watered Down show,

or the fact that nobody wants to watch this. Its a pointless series.

We already saw what they gave us with T3, a watered down Teen Friendly piece of crap, whereas in direct comparison, T1 and T2 were both gloomy, violent and epic sci fi action masterpieces.

T1 and T2 contained some nasty killing scenes and some brutal violence.

Whereas T3 was a PG MTV teen friendly piece of crap.

This new show is further evidence.

Funny how in the original Terminator, Arnold just rips out a guy's heart in horrific and gory fashion,

and now 20+ years later, we get a kid friendly weekly series.

Talk about pissing on a franchise and disgracing it. This tv show is an abomination.

[daywalker2007]

put it this way, you won't see anyone die on this new show in a gory and horrific fashion like T1 and T2.

you won't see a Terminator rip out a guy's heart.
you won't see a Terminator poke a knife through a guys eye.
you won't see a Terminator machine gun down a whole police precint.
you won't see a Terminator morph into a woman and brutally shove a knife into a guys mouth through his head.

Oh dear, im sick of people destroying a story that has already been told and has no need to be expanded upon.

lets hope this writers strike and poor ratings kill of this piece of crap show.
Its on Fox anyway, so i shouldn't think it will be a problem.
They love cancelling shows, so good omens here.

[daywalker2007]

I would reall love it if this show used the terminator theme. Oh, and the posters are great.

i doubt it.

you all saw what happend with T3.

Marco Beltrami did an orchestral score and didn't even use the main theme until the end credits (what a freaking moron he is).

the Terminator theme is like 50% of the actual series. Without that Brad Fiedel music, it just sucks turd.

No wonder T3 was a disgrace, disgraceful people with no regard for a great theme.

No wonder Brad Fiedel doesn't score movies anymore, when you have idiot directors making such pathetic decisions.

Fiedel's theme to the terminator series is like the Superman theme to superman.

you just don't touch it or not have it.

[black_dust]

Alternate timeline. O.K that clear it up.

Hated T3 anyhow....



Why would it be confusing if the events of T3 haven't even happened yet during the show..?


Because the show is before T3 so anything thats done say john loses an arm.... how the hell would it be explained thats he has 2 arms in t3?

[Swordmaster]

Because the show is before T3 so anything thats done say john loses an arm.... how the hell would it be explained thats he has 2 arms in t3?
The show does not acknowledge T3's existence. It retcons it.

[Webhead2006]

Yea i mentioned this earlier and others have too. The producers stated T3 doesnt happen in the timeline in the show. They didnt want to connect it to what happened before T3 events.

[Darkfly]

lets hope this writers strike and poor ratings kill of this piece of crap show.
Its on Fox anyway, so i shouldn't think it will be a problem.
They love cancelling shows, so good omens here.

Fox prob will cancel, especially with Thomas Dekker playing John Connor,man if you've seen the Pilot you'll know why, they made John Connor such a wuss and the actor who plays him is utter bollocks.

[black_dust]

Yea i mentioned this earlier and others have too. The producers stated T3 doesnt happen in the timeline in the show. They didnt want to connect it to what happened before T3 events.

Fair enough, T3 really ****ed alot of things up tho. Hope they have half decent writers on this who know whats what

[Golgo-13]

Because the show is before T3 so anything thats done say john loses an arm.... how the hell would it be explained thats he has 2 arms in t3?

I had the same question on the previous page but, i think that was answered above. The series is disregarding T3.

[Golgo-13]

Fox prob will cancel, especially with Thomas Dekker playing John Connor,man if you've seen the Pilot you'll know why, they made John Connor such a wuss and the actor who plays him is utter bollocks.

Fox are indeed trigger happy when it comes to cancelling shows, but i think the strike might work in the shows favor (and every other show for that matter) because they (the networks) have limited things they can air and count on at this point. I'm suprised K-Ville has lasted this long, but like i stated the strike is working in some shows favor....

..just to add. I thought Nick Stahl was an utterly terrible and weak John Conners. They totally f'ed up his image by making him dependant on his wife...i'm not suprised you said this one sucks either.

[Mr. Socko]

I like Thomas Dekker, I'm sure he will be better than Nick Stahl(great in Sin City, terrible in T3)

[Golgo-13]

So is Skynet still gonna be a network, rather than a virus like they said it was in T3?

[GoldGoblin]

Those posters look awesome,I just wish this show wasn't airing on Fox.

[Webhead2006]

well were else would u want to see it on. Yes fox isnt the best place for it since they are always canning shows before they give them a chance.

[Warhammer]

^But FOX owns the rights. I wish Cameron owned all the rights, because if he did, we wouldn't have gotten T3, or have anything else continue his story that he clearly meant to be finished. :csad:

I do love the fact that this show is in an alternate timeline.
With that said, I look at this new timeline as a tangent of T2. I am still a firm believer that the main timeline ends with Judgment Day being prevented and the Connors living life honkey dorey.

[Lord Blackbolt]

yeah..that's how I see it too. Alternate timeline...that's why they all look different

[Webhead2006]

actually i believe it is WB that owns the rights and is producing the show but it is licensced to fox to air there.

[JTStarkiller]

Man I hope this show is good. T3 was mediocre at best, and I can't believe they got ****ing McG to continue the franchise.

[Rac]

Watched the Pilot. Can't say anything yet. Gotta see couple of more episodes first. One thing that bugged was that Summer Glau's Terminator seemed little too human. She smiled and everything. Like no stiffness at all. The baddie Terminator was more stiff and terminatorlike, but still he seemed little bit human too. Maybe it's the new models or something that have that ability. But anyway, not judging the show yet. It wasn't bad, but it didn't blow my mind away either.

Dyson family (well, Tarissa and Danny) cameo was nice.

[Kanon]

Yeah, it seemed human, more like an AI than just robots...

[Rac]

Yeah, exactly.

[amazingfantasy15]

I wish this show was set after Judgement Day, I just think that setting would give the show a lot more to work with. I mean, what's going to happen in the show, after week Skynet sends another Terminator back to try and kill John? I'd much rather see the resistance fighting back against Skynet, sure it'd be more expensive, but there'd be a lot more story potential.

[Rac]

actually i believe it is WB that owns the rights and is producing the show but it is licensced to fox to air there.
Yep.

Production Companies

C-2 Pictures (http://akas.imdb.com/company/co0066021/)
Warner Bros. Television (http://akas.imdb.com/company/co0005035/)Distributors

20th Century Fox Television (http://akas.imdb.com/company/co0056447/) (2007) (USA) (TV)
Virgin 1 (http://akas.imdb.com/company/co0212156/) (2008-) (UK) (TV)http://akas.imdb.com/title/tt0851851/companycredits

[Webhead2006]

yea Wb got control of the rights from who ever it was that owned the terminator rights after cameron lost control of the property.

[Apollo]

why the hell wont WB put it on their TV shows? why give it to fox??

[Sawyer]

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2185/poster1gt4.jpg

OMFG. That looks awesome.

[Speedball]

why the hell wont WB put it on their TV shows? why give it to fox??
Because no one watches the CW.
Millions watch Fox, thousands watch the CW.

[Sawyer]

Because no one watches the CW.
Millions watch Fox, thousands watch the CW.

Bulls***. Millions watch CW. However, more do watch Fox. Fox= killer of cult shows.
Love your avvy, by the way.

[Webhead2006]

yea fox and the other big networks do get more viewers ranging from 10-20+million compared to the 3-6million viewers cw shows get.

[Warhammer]

yeah..that's how I see it too. Alternate timeline...that's why they all look different

Yep. This show and T3 (as well as Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins and so on) are only tangents/alternate timelines branched off of T2 to me.

:up:

actually i believe it is WB that owns the rights and is producing the show but it is licensced to fox to air there.

Yep.

Production Companies
C-2 Pictures (http://akas.imdb.com/company/co0066021/)
Warner Bros. Television (http://akas.imdb.com/company/co0005035/)Distributors
20th Century Fox Television (http://akas.imdb.com/company/co0056447/) (2007) (USA) (TV)
Virgin 1 (http://akas.imdb.com/company/co0212156/) (2008-) (UK) (TV)http://akas.imdb.com/title/tt0851851/companycredits

yea Wb got control of the rights from who ever it was that owned the terminator rights after cameron lost control of the property.

I made a mistake. Orion (merged with MGM in 1997) made The Terminator. Tri-Star (owned by Sony/Columbia Pictures) then got the rights and made T2: Judgment Day. Then, WB then got the rights and did this show and T3. Now, the rights belong to Halcyon Co. for Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins.

Apparently, this show was the last thing that WB set in motion before they had to give up the rights to Halcyon.

why the hell wont WB put it on their TV shows? why give it to fox??

Either FOX offered the highest bid, or FOX was the only one of the big 4 to take the chance of airing it.

[Mr. Socko]

I think it's a smart move to put it on Fox if they want as many viewers as possible. My only problem will be is that normal single digit channels don't come in as well for me quality wise as cable channels do.

[GoldenAgeHero]

this loooks like garbage. the previews aren't impressive at all it just comes off cheesey and the terminators stink!

[Golgo-13]

I hope there's no O.C-like love story involved between John Conners and the female Terminator.. :whatever:

Anyhow, speaking of Conners, from what i've seen in the previews he looks much more capable that Nick Stahls as the saviour of the human race. Stahl's Conner looked like a ****ing idiot...

....for those of you that have seen the pilot, is this Conners much better/stronger that the T3 one?

[Kanon]

Is a lot like him, and like Furlong, tired of being called the saviour...

But, yes, now that you mention it, yep, he looks stronger, more on his feet

[Superfreak]

saw the premier... I had low expectations going in. But all the peices still seem to fit. It was good, and I'm excited to see more.

and the only thing that left me wondering, was how far are they gonna take the sexy teen sexterminator. I mean you can just taste the things that a channel like WB would want to do with the concept. Even I had fun toying with the idea of a teen terminator sexbot. Anyhow, hope they don't ever go in that direction.


nice to see that they haven't completely bastardized the property.

[Warhammer]

I hope there's no O.C-like love story involved between John Conners and the female Terminator.. :whatever:

Anyhow, speaking of Conners, from what i've seen in the previews he looks much more capable that Nick Stahls as the saviour of the human race. Stahl's Conner looked like a ****ing idiot...

....for those of you that have seen the pilot, is this Conners much better/stronger that the T3 one?

I'd hope so. Since these are different timelines and all, I hope so.

[black_dust]

....for those of you that have seen the pilot, is this Conners much better/stronger that the T3 one?

Conners isnt.

But John Connor is :p

[Spider-Vader]

What's the date this will air in the U.S.?

[Neto Magnus]

After watching teh pilot I realize now how incredibly pointless SCC and T3 are. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE THE ****ING FUTURE WAR?!

[Golgo-13]

I know Lena Headey is gonna kick ass. She looks just as badass as Hamiliton did in T2.

[Neto Magnus]

I know Lena Headey is gonna kick ass. She looks just as badass as Hamiliton did in T2.

yea she was quite bad ass but still these eps are gonna be pointless. And by judging other recent Fox shows, I assume alot of these eps are gonna be filler as well.

[Golgo-13]

Lena makes my 'machine' rise. :yay:

[Webhead2006]

will be starting sunday jan 13th and also monday jan 14th it regular airing night.

[DACrowe]

Well here's hoping. The pilot was decent but had potential. I saw on the promos they are building to a single date in 2011 and I would love to see a much more satisfying RISE OF THE MACHINES in teh fifth (or fourth, whatever) season.

Hope it lives up to potential. And Lena and Summer Glau are both well cast.

I must say Glau is a much better actress than Loken and if anything is being underused in the role of a terminator, which is a part that can be slept walked through usually. Arnie was visually great but it was the writeing and iamge that sold the character, only the actor (I forget his name) who played T-1000 in all his liquidy glory in T2 has shown any real acting chops.

I think though some of htis hate is more at women in an action role.

As for LEna, as I said she fills the boots of Hamilton nicely. But Hamilton will be missed. And I'm still not sure TV has the epic or personal quality as a medium that a film does that was achieved with the first two. But the pilot entertained and it could go places. But I've seen Fox cancel better shows (Firefly, Arrested DEvelopment, and Futurama most promienetly for me). But then again Prison Break can last on this channel so who knows.

I have hopes and the marketing campaign including the first two posters (robot Glau and badass Lena) were really well done. I didn't care for the second two. Just out of curiosity why isn't there a poster for John, though?

[Webhead2006]

there is posters of john lol.

[Cagefighterkip]

This is gonna be really good, i can tell. The clips I've seen look well made, and online sections are tight (from IGN) and the pics look amazing. Well cast too. So excited, January isn't that far off...

[Webhead2006]

Hey guys i was reading earlier over on terminatorsite.com one of the sub sites of kryptonsite. Well they were saying terminator the sarah connor chronicles will not be be interfering with heroes reruns. They stated nbc has a revised jan schedule of shows and in heroes place at mondays at 9 which is the airing time for terminator will be deal or no deal. So this is good news for the show. They will not have to worry about going against heroes. Here's hoping the ratings do well and fox gives the show a chance.

[Webhead2006]

Sorry Double Post.

[Cagefighterkip]

Hey guys i was reading earlier over on terminatorsite.com one of the sub sites of kryptonsite. Well they were saying terminator the sarah connor chronicles will not be be interfering with heroes reruns. They stated nbc has a revised jan schedule of shows and in heroes place at mondays at 9 which is the airing time for terminator will be deal or no deal. So this is good news for the show. They will not have to worry about going against heroes. Here's hoping the ratings do well and fox gives the show a chance.

sweetness, thanks man :woot:

[Webhead2006]

np man i didnt see any one report this on the board so i thought i would post it here cause some people might no know that kryptonsite sister site for terminator.

[Kanon]

Cool site, thanks Webhead2006! :up:

[Webhead2006]

Yea it is a pretty good site. As i mentioned it is run by the guy who does the smallville show kryptonsite page. Now for the show there is one mistake i talked about here i hope got fixed for the pilot that is going to be airing in jan. The mistake was twice in the unaired pilot characters mentioned that the destruction of cyberdyne and death of miles dyson was only 2 yrs ago when it was 5 yrs. T2 is set in 1994 if you go by the date of when john was born on the police computer the t1000 checks. He was born in feb of 85 and the film is set 10 yrs after t1 in 84. So in T2 would make john 10(Not 13 stated in T3-mistake there, and T3 has nothing for the show). The show starts off in 1999 before going into the future and they say john is 15 in the show so as i said T2 was 94 and start of show is 99 which is 5 yrs. I really hope this mistake got fixed. Cause if not that is a bad goof on the producers.

[FaT_tONle]

Is this thing it continuity? I find it hard to believe since John Conner believes they had already prevented judgement day in T3... there shouldn't be any Terminators hunting him from after T2 to T3

[Kanon]

Apparently, for now, they are ignoring T3, which sucks IMO...

But other than that, an ongoing series about Terminator is a dream come true!

[Webhead2006]

Yea i mentioned in post posts the show in not in continuity with T3. The producers have stated t3 isnt in there continuity and can do what ever they want. I was just stating watching the unaired pilot a few times they make the mistake saying its only been two yrs since T2(1994) and start of show(1999) when it is really 5 yrs.

[FaT_tONle]

I just wonder if T3 will be gradually shaded out of this franchise like it never happened...

[Webhead2006]

That would be nice but probably not with T4 is coming soon. T3 will always play a part in the film series even though many of us fans hated it.

[Cagefighterkip]

why does everybody hate T3 so much? it wasnt great, but i didnt think that it was bad.

[zanos]

Well here's hoping. The pilot was decent but had potential. I saw on the promos they are building to a single date in 2011 and I would love to see a much more satisfying RISE OF THE MACHINES in teh fifth (or fourth, whatever) season.

Hope it lives up to potential. And Lena and Summer Glau are both well cast.

I must say Glau is a much better actress than Loken and if anything is being underused in the role of a terminator, which is a part that can be slept walked through usually. Arnie was visually great but it was the writeing and iamge that sold the character, only the actor (I forget his name) who played T-1000 in all his liquidy glory in T2 has shown any real acting chops.

I think though some of htis hate is more at women in an action role.

As for LEna, as I said she fills the boots of Hamilton nicely. But Hamilton will be missed. And I'm still not sure TV has the epic or personal quality as a medium that a film does that was achieved with the first two. But the pilot entertained and it could go places. But I've seen Fox cancel better shows (Firefly, Arrested DEvelopment, and Futurama most promienetly for me). But then again Prison Break can last on this channel so who knows.

I have hopes and the marketing campaign including the first two posters (robot Glau and badass Lena) were really well done. I didn't care for the second two. Just out of curiosity why isn't there a poster for John, though?

Glau could possibly be a better actress than Loken but being able to play a terminator is more visual. Just compare the "actor" playing the bad terminator in the pilot. He was absolutely awful. Just compare his performance with Arnold, Robert Patrick and Loken. Loken is MUCH better at playing a terminator than Glau.

[DACrowe]

There is more to the performance than glaring wich is all Loken did. I think if the producers allowed her to play the character cold she could do it really easily. It comes from the producers wanting to make her more humanish so she doesn't get boring after 3 or 4 episodes. But I think the image of the small girl who can then devestate works quite well. I say give her a few more episodes because all Loken did was scowl and serve as the basis for sex jokes. Glau's character has already avoided that pitfall and I think after a few episodes she'll find her better.

[DACrowe]

Plus who wouldn't want to be terminated by this? ;) :p

http://summer-glau.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=205&pos=8

http://summer-glau.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=205&pos=7

[Dr Lee]

When did the pilot air?

[Spider-Vader]

After watching teh pilot I realize now how incredibly pointless SCC and T3 are. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE THE ****ING FUTURE WAR?!
T4. Duh.
why does everybody hate T3 so much? it wasnt great, but i didnt think that it was bad.

Same here.

[zanos]

Aside from the big chase scene and Loken's performance T3 was an awful hack job that relied heavily on copying T2 with not an ounce of originality.

[Webhead2006]

When did the pilot air?
It hasnt aired yet. It starts up Jan 13th a sunday and Jan 14th(a monday and its normal airing day) as a two parter series preimere.

[DACrowe]

Pilot is online though. In rough cut.

[Cagefighterkip]

Pilot is online though. In rough cut.

how is it???

[Webhead2006]

pretty good and its been online for months.

[Apollo]

just saw the commercial during family guy......and DAMN!! totally not what i was expecting! :wow: :up:

[DACrowe]

Are the ads online?

The pilot while in rough cut was pretty decent. I think recasting the "bad terminator" was a good idea, though. It was entertaining and had some really good set pieces for a tv show and the acting and casting other than the bad T-800 was pretty solid. The storyline was a little conventional (though I really like the beginning where Sarah goes ape**** on her son and is ready to move at a moment's notice), but the last 10 minutes change the show's dynamic significantly and hopefully after a few episodes can get out of the "robot chase mentality" and make an entertaining enduring show.

I'd call the pilot decent, but shows a lot of potential that was not touched in it. Hopefully the show will live long enough to reach that potential.

[sithgoblin]

I saw the pilot and it was LAME.

The Terminator was sleeping?! They travelled forward through time?! A teenage chick Terminator?! John and Sarah keeping their first names and making their surname REESE?!?! How f**king stupid are they?

And why are these new John Connors wimps? Edward Furlong had more balls than Stahl and this guy put together. He was bossing his mum around, not vice versa. Seriously, having a wimpy John doesn't work. He's supposed to be the future leader of humanity for christsakes.

I also couldn't stand it when Summer Glau saved the day, and kept not answering Sarah's questions about her plan. As if Sarah would go along with that. Sarah Connor would want to know everything every step of the way, she's not the kind of person who would accept 'hope' or whatever bulls**t it was for an answer.

[Kanon]

David Silver Vs. The Terminator
Date : December 12, 2007 Writer : Clint Morris

Former ‘’Beverly Hills 90210’’ star Brian Austin Green is headed back to FOX to star in “The Terminator : The Sarah Connor Chronicles”, reports TV Guide.

There’s no word on who the former dance king of Beverly Hills High will be playing in the new series but chances are he won’t be a Terminator - if only because a David Silver-droid would be about as frightening as finding a couple of ants in your mailbox.

Additionally, the site reports that Owain Yeoman, who played the new evil Terminator (Cromartie’s his name, says the site), has been dumped from the show. He played the part in the pilot, but from episode one former “Deadwood” star Garret Dillahunt takes on the role.

Brian Bloom, seen on the short-lived FOX series “Drive”, has also been cast in the series – he too will play a Terminator.

I’m looking forward to this show. I saw the pilot, and it was fun – I especially liked Lena Headey as Sarah Connor. There are a lot of possibilities there.
http://www.moviehole.net/news/20071212_david_silver_vs_the_terminator.html

[Cagefighterkip]

http://www.moviehole.net/news/20071212_david_silver_vs_the_terminator.html

huh, cool :yay:

[zanos]

Thank god they dumped that guy. He was awful as a terminator. I don't understand the casting of BAG though. You couldn't choose a more irelevant actor in hollywood.

[Indrid Cold]

Dang it let the franchise rest!

[Cagefighterkip]

Dang it let the franchise rest!
may i ask WHY???

[Scar Predator]

Dang it let the franchise rest!

Forget that! This is the first show that I'm actually going to watch since Blade went off the air.

[JTStarkiller]

Looking forward to it, but not expecting much better than T3, to be honest. Headey and Glau are the two main reasons I'll watch.

[Cagefighterkip]

Looking forward to it, but not expecting much better than T3, to be honest. Headey and Glau are the two main reasons I'll watch.

me too, but still... looks tight for TV

[Webhead2006]

Hey guys terminatorsite.com has a series of new trailers for the show. They also some some unseen footage from upcoming episodes of the show. Here is the link so you guys can go check them out: http://www.terminatorsite.com/terminatorvideo.htm

[Lord Blackbolt]

I wonder how they can keep this fresh for more than one season....but then again...I thought the same with 24 and Prison break...and I love those shows

[Kanon]

Thanks Webhead2006!

I have some super hi res version of the posters on my site... I don't know if they are anywhere else on the net, so...

http://pochoclisimo.com/galeria.php?id=6

Click on the thumbnails, and then click where it says "Ver alta resolución"

[zanos]

24 is so unbelievably played out. They're just cashing in right now. The quality of that show went down the tubes after the third season.

[Matt Mortem]

I'm really amped up bout this series. Bout time there was some good **** on tv

[samsnee]

I'm thinking this won't be that great. I don't like how it messes with the continuity of the film, plus, this site: http://takebackthefuture.com means they're thinking the show will be on for a few years. A bit optimistic.

[Webhead2006]

the show is only using the continutiy of t1 and t2 and not using the continuity of t3. This has been known for months now. The producers didnt want the events leading up to t3 play a part in the show since they had sarah killed off for t3.

[mr. peasant]

In other words, this sounds like an 'alternate reality' story, akin to Smallville (or maybe T3 is the alternate reality?). Personally, I think that's a smart move, especially establishing it early on before going into the series. That way, they'd have more freedom, don't have to worry too much about continuity and we as the audience don't have the comfort of knowing how exactly things are going to play out.

[Orb]

Can someone pm me the link to the pilot?

[Spider-Vader]

Forget that! This is the first show that I'm actually going to watch since Blade went off the air.
First non-reality/cartoon for me. :csad:
the show is only using the continutiy of t1 and t2 and not using the continuity of t3. This has been known for months now. The producers didnt want the events leading up to t3 play a part in the show since they had sarah killed off for t3.
So is this non-canon or is T3?

[Webhead2006]

For the show T3 is not cannon for them. For the movie series the show is out of continuity with the movies.

[Webhead2006]

Hey guys if u havent heard tomorrow night midnight est/10pm central time for 24 hrs fox it airing the official pilot online at yahoo. Man i cant wait to check it out. Also cant wait to see the scenes that had to be changed. Also hopefully the fixed the mistake that was said 3 times by 3 different characters about how long since t2 events it has been. It is really 5 yrs but they kept saying it was only 2 yrs.

[Matt]

Hey guys if u havent heard tomorrow night midnight est/10pm central time for 24 hrs fox it airing the official pilot online at yahoo. Man i cant wait to check it out. Also cant wait to see the scenes that had to be changed. Also hopefully the fixed the mistake that was said 3 times by 3 different characters about how long since t2 events it has been. It is really 5 yrs but they kept saying it was only 2 yrs.

Maybe its not a mistake, they are just reconning it. :huh:

[Webhead2006]

well they probably made the same mistake some people think. Some think john was 13 in t2 which he was only 10 yrs old actually.

[Lord Blackbolt]

isn't it a alternate reality...so anything goes

[DIRECTOR]

Anybody watched the pilot of the show?
http://tv.yahoo.com/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles/show/39221/videos#5821348

[deathshead2]

Yeah so far its horrible. Typical fox trash. Very badly miscasted all round.

[Moviefan2k4]

Yeah so far its horrible. Typical fox trash. Very badly miscasted all round.Speak for yourself! I just got done watching it, and my sole reaction is just simply, "Wow". If James Cameron ever sees this, he should feel very proud that Fox stayed this faithful to his concepts. :D

[Webhead2006]

yea i was watching the airing pilot at midnight est time. It was pretty good compared to the unaired pilot. I am a little pissed they didnt fix the mistake saying t2 events only happened two yrs ago when it is actually 5 yrs but i can live with it. I noticed they kept the school shooting scene i thought i remember reading it was getting cut and replaced with a different scene i guess fox allowed them to keep it. Also i noticed they recast sarah fiancee with a new guy. Also noticed a few added scenes here and there. Overall i liked it.

[DIRECTOR]

The episode is sooooooooo stupid, this show will fail. The terminator is crap, and that girl terminator is CRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

Crappy acting

I LOVE ARNOLD SCHWARRZENGGER!!!!!!!!!!!

[Symbiotic]

I just watched the pilot. Good stuff IMO.

[Taiwarriorz21]

i doubt this will be interesting at all. seen the trailer not to good.

[Moviefan2k4]

Since things lke this could further affect the continuity of the show, I thought it best to address a common issue regarding the timeline. It's already been stated by Fox that the events of "T3" have no bearing on the series, so I'll omit those references...but what about "T2"?

The "T2" timeline has always been sketchy, even in the context of the film itself. The T-800-101 Terminator (Schwarzenegger's model) says this about the history of Skynet...

"The man most directly responsible is Miles Bennett Dyson...in a few months, he creates a revolutionary type of microprocessor. In three years, Cyberdyne will become the world's leading supplier of military computer systems...the Skynet funding bill is passed. The system goes online August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware, 2:14 AM, Eastern Time, August 29th."

Now, according to the police computer in the T-1000's squad car, John Connor was born on February 28th, 1985. While James Cameron said in intreviews John's age was ten, the film itself never mentions it.

If John is at least ten years old, the film would have to take place during the summer of 1995. Yet, in the above dialogue, the Terminator mentions 1997 as being "three years away". So, either John was actually 9 years old, or the Terminator was using an estimate...quite unusual for a machine to do, especially when reciting what he knows about future events.

Assuming both the "three years" mention and John's DOB are officially canon, then "T2" takes place in the summer of 1994. The pilot episode of "The Sarah Connor Chronicles" specifically mentions a two-year gap since the T-1000's attack...which would mean it takes place in 1996, when John should be 11 years old...not 1999 (with John actually being 14, not 15), as shown in the series.

I smell a number of huge retcons being done...either that, or a lot of folks haven't paid close enough attention to begin with. Your thoughts?

[mr. peasant]

Actually, the only retcon needed is his year of birth. If you accept Cameron's mention of Connor's age of ten during T2, and that Skynet goes online in three years time from that movie, placing the movie in 1994, then Connor would be 15 in 1999.

[Moviefan2k4]

But if you retcon John's DOB, then that necessitates a lot of changes regarding the original film, which is set in the spring and summer of 1984.

[mr. peasant]

Again, not really. Just backtrack it a year as well.

[Webhead2006]

Since things lke this could further affect the continuity of the show, I thought it best to address a common issue regarding the timeline. It's already been stated by Fox that the events of "T3" have no bearing on the series, so I'll omit those references...but what about "T2"?

The "T2" timeline has always been sketchy, even in the context of the film itself. The T-800-101 Terminator (Schwarzenegger's model) says this about the history of Skynet...

"The man most directly responsible is Miles Bennett Dyson...in a few months, he creates a revolutionary type of microprocessor. In three years, Cyberdyne will become the world's leading supplier of military computer systems...the Skynet funding bill is passed. The system goes online August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware, 2:14 AM, Eastern Time, August 29th."

Now, according to the police computer in the T-1000's squad car, John Connor was born on February 28th, 1985. While James Cameron said in intreviews John's age was ten, the film itself never mentions it.

If John is at least ten years old, the film would have to take place during the summer of 1995. Yet, in the above dialogue, the Terminator mentions 1997 as being "three years away". So, either John was actually 9 years old, or the Terminator was using an estimate...quite unusual for a machine to do, especially when reciting what he knows about future events.

Assuming both the "three years" mention and John's DOB are officially canon, then "T2" takes place in the summer of 1994. The pilot episode of "The Sarah Connor Chronicles" specifically mentions a two-year gap since the T-1000's attack...which would mean it takes place in 1996, when John should be 11 years old...not 1999 (with John actually being 14, not 15), as shown in the series.

I smell a number of huge retcons being done...either that, or a lot of folks haven't paid close enough attention to begin with. Your thoughts?
I have been saying this since the pilot first leaked out. I think the producers goofed on the time/yr T2 was set in and all that. I think since some of the shows producers worked on T3 they made the mistake by going on what nick stahl said he was 13 in t2(during the opening in T3, and yes i know T3 has no bearings on the show). but he was ten actually. I wished they did fixed the goof of them saying its only been 2 yrs since t2 events when it is actually 5yrs.

[Moviefan2k4]

I have been saying this since the pilot first leaked out. I think the producers goofed on the time/yr T2 was set in and all that. I think since some of the shows producers worked on T3 they made the mistake by going on what nick stahl said he was 13 in t2(during the opening in T3, and yes i know T3 has no bearings on the show). but he was ten actually. I wished they did fixed the goof of them saying its only been 2 yrs since t2 events when it is actually 5yrs.Agreed. the only way i see of them working around this (without future retcons) is by having John, Sarah, or Cameron clarify the "two years" statement, possibly like my example below.

(Sarah recalls a conversation with John, set before the pilot, in a future episode.)

John (in flashback): "It's been two years, Mom. Two years since the day the Machines were said to take over. I'm tired of running, Mom. I can't do this anymore."

[Webhead2006]

its kinda hard to do that since the fbi guy said it was two yrs ago they blew up cyberdyne. I really wished they would have fixed the goof. I guess they didnt check messageboards after it first leaked with people like us talking about the mistake.

[Golgo-13]

When does this show officially air? i'm sad to hear that so many are on the fence about it (which usually means i'll think it'll suck once i see it).

Is at least Lena Headey good?

And plz for gods sake don't tell me the premise is, Young Conners has the hots for this new female Terminator, and she feels something for him..but they can't cross that line..? :whatever:

[Moviefan2k4]

The show premieres over the course of two nights: Sunday, January 13, and Monday, January 14th, on the Fox network. As far as I know, each night will feature one episode, and they will air at 7PM (Central Time).

[Spider-Vader]

When does this show officially air? i'm sad to hear that so many are on the fence about it (which usually means i'll think it'll suck once i see it).

Is at least Lena Headey good?

And plz for gods sake don't tell me the premise is, Young Conners has the hots for this new female Terminator, and she feels something for him..but they can't cross that line..? :whatever:

I can understand John, but the Terminator should be like "WTF does he want!?"

[M.O.Steel]

here's my rating with T2 as --10

T1 --8
T3 --2

Chronicles --6 (good show, will follow all the way, but not terminator great)

[M.O.Steel]

i think lena heady is the best choice second to linda hamilton herself. I think she will do the character justice.

[Golgo-13]

Isn't the premier tomorrow?

[Webhead2006]

yes the pilot is tomorrow night and then episode 2 monday night on its normal night and time.

[zanos]

What's different in the new pilot. I heard the fired the previous terminator.

[Webhead2006]

In the broadcast version they recast the role of sarah's fiancee(spelling?), added a few scenes like one invovling cameron and john, one with sarah an cameron, and a few others, and the ending is slightly different.

[zanos]

That's really odd. I heard they had to reshoot the school schooting scene and they recast the guy playing the terminator because he was so bad. Why on earth would they even bother recasting the fiancee? That's like recasting the kids in John Connor's classroom.

[Webhead2006]

yea i too remember hearing the evil terminator was recast and they where cutting the school shooting scene to something else but i guess fox allowed them to keep the school shooting.

[Golgo-13]

School shooting? With all the recent mass shooting's in real life...:huh. Fox is taking a risk.

[mr. peasant]

That's really odd. I heard they had to reshoot the school schooting scene and they recast the guy playing the terminator because he was so bad. Why on earth would they even bother recasting the fiancee? That's like recasting the kids in John Connor's classroom.

Maybe this is an indication that he's going to play an important role, or that they have plans for him later in the season. Think similarly along the lines of Mohinder Suresh's father in Heroes.

[Arkady Rossovich]

I saw the preview,i don't think this show will last.

[zanos]

Maybe this is an indication that he's going to play an important role, or that they have plans for him later in the season. Think similarly along the lines of Mohinder Suresh's father in Heroes.

If you have an awful actor who can't even play a robot right why on earth would you want to get him to do more episodes? It might just have been too experience redoing ALL his scenes. That is the only reason I can come up with why they stayed with him.

[Matt Mortem]

i have very high hopes for this series and my only concern at this point is the female robot, she seems tooo human

[Mladen]

i have very high hopes for this series and my only concern at this point is the female robot, she seems tooo human

she's a bit too typical-buffy-cast-member looks for me as well.

[mr. peasant]

If you have an awful actor who can't even play a robot right why on earth would you want to get him to do more episodes? It might just have been too experience redoing ALL his scenes. That is the only reason I can come up with why they stayed with him.

I was referring to why they changed the fiancee's actor.

[Webhead2006]

well the thing with the female protector terminator we dont know what model she is and its looking like she is probably the most human like model.

[Lord Blackbolt]

I think this show will be really fun. I hope it's a hit.

[Golgo-13]

It's on now!

[Golgo-13]

Jeez, it looks like ****s hitting the fan already!LOL!

[Ion Kenshin]

so far so good....im enjoying....am I correct in saying that's the kid from heroes

[Cory]

this show was going great...then the girl turns out to be a terminator, and says come with me if u want to live, and its an insult.

[Ion Kenshin]

forgive the noob question bit does this take place after the 2nd film

[Gmanofsteel]

forgive the noob question bit does this take place after the 2nd film

yes

[Cory]

forgive the noob question bit does this take place after the 2nd film

yes, 2 years after.

[The Guardian]

HI GUYS, I LIKE THE SHOW SO FAR, IT'S PRETTY GOOD!!!:D:up:

[Golgo-13]

so far so good....im enjoying....am I correct in saying that's the kid from heroes

Is it the kid from Heroes? Your talking about the kid that was dating Clair? If so i don't think that was him.

Anyhow, so far i'm loving this. Hope they mention howThe Terminator found John this time...since they're supposed to be living off the grid.

[cabel]

so far so good....im enjoying....am I correct in saying that's the kid from heroes

And the girl from Firefly

[Ion Kenshin]

Is it the kid from Heroes? Your talking about the kid that was dating Clair? If so i don't think that was him.

Anyhow, so far i'm loving this. Hope they mention howThe Terminator found John this time...since they're supposed to be living off the grid.

I meant season one zack I think was his name

[Lord Blackbolt]

this show is very entertaining....I hope they can make all the episodes like that.....give it a sci-fi take on the fugitive