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Ultimate Movie-Man
11-10-2005, 01:03 PM
I would love to see:
Catwoman
Poison Ivy (it could be possible)
Two Face (DrokyFresh, my man! ... or woman)
Mad Hatter (We already have them!)
Ventriliquist (A must! That'd be so freaky)
Maybe Harley Quinn if she didn't have the costume...something a bit less...it.)
So yeah!
PS I know the Joker's in the sequel, and I know we've seen the scarecrow, but he's most likely gonna be in the sequel..go Cillian!
PPS If I've missed ANY villains please say!
regwec
11-10-2005, 01:53 PM
Good poll. I'd like to see all of the vintage rogues: The Joker, The Penguin, Catwoman, The Riddler, Two Face and the Scarecrow. I think your only serious ommission was Ra's al Ghul, whom I would like to return.
Zaphod
11-10-2005, 01:54 PM
Riddler.
I'm not a great fan of the SAW-serial killer ideas people have been suggesting, as I think it deviates to far from the character, and we already have a psycho-killer planned for the sequel. I think the Riddler would work wonderfully as a secondary villain though.
To repost my previous idea:
Have Nygma featured as the 'right hand man' to a powerful mob boss (Throne or Maroni). He is the intellect to compliment the muscle, concocting harebrained schemes in leading the authorites away from the crimes his boss commits, a'la the riddles. He could also be an expert in (what I like to call) 'The Riddles of Human Nature', such as the hidden truths behind body language, tone of speech, lies, in this sense he is a human lie-detector, which would make for some fantastic interrogation scenes if done right. He should wear the green suit, bowler hat, and have the cane, but with no question marks dotted over him.
Scarecrow I want to return. He should be in the sequel. Batman captures and detains him to Arkham, uses his insight into learning about the Joker, who it is discovered is a prior paitent of Cranes (sort of like a Clarice Starling/Hannibal Lecter relationship, but with obvious alterations)
Rynan
11-10-2005, 05:50 PM
I liked the Riddler as the Gotham Smart guy, the dork Batman hits up for information when he's at a dead end, ala' Dark Victory.
Also, anyway I look at it, I think using Crane like Calander Man is a bad idea. The Joker should be an enegma to all.
Ceb-Man
11-12-2005, 11:33 AM
The Villians I would like to see varies..
1.) The Scarecrow: there needs to be closure from Begins with Batman getting Crane.
2.) I really like the idea of the rumor going around that the villians maybe The Joker, The Penguin, Black Mask, and a mob boss (Maroni or Thorne). It mixes in villians we have seen and haven't seen. Black Mask is a modern age villian, mixing him in with classic Rogues Joker, and Penguin.
Villians I would like to see down the line of sequels are The Riddler, Two-Face, Catwoman, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Man-Bat, Professor Hugo Strange, Bane, Councilman/Boss Rupert Thorne ( if he isn't the mob boss in Begins sequel), Sin-Tzu, The Mad Hatter, Killer Croc, Harley Quinn, and Clayface.
dutchmarvel
11-17-2005, 07:46 AM
Not of the 4 first movie´s. With the other ones i don´t have any problem if needed.
Shamik
11-17-2005, 12:39 PM
This isn't really my pick, but I heard that this was Nolan's first choice for the role. What do you guys think?
http://shamik01.tripod.com/art_work/index.album?i=6&s=1
If someone could, please post the image on the thread. I can't get it to. Thanks.
Ultimate Movie-Man
11-17-2005, 09:22 PM
Not of the 4 first movie´s. With the other ones i don´t have any problem if needed.
Why? BB isn't connected with the first four movies...so why can we not see them? We're seeing the Joker in Batman 2, we've already seen him. You gonna have a spaz about that? I just find that comment a bit contradictory and useless...sorry.
and to Shamik:
http://shamik01.tripod.com/art_work/Joker2.jpg
Ultimate Movie-Man
11-17-2005, 09:23 PM
but Nolan has already confirmed that the Joker isn't wearing white make up...
Katsuro
11-17-2005, 10:10 PM
but Nolan has already confirmed that the Joker isn't wearing white make up...
No, he has not. Not even close.
Jett from BOF talked to a "Treatment Insider" who said that the Joker would not have a fixed smile or make-up, meaning natural smile, unlike Jack Nicholson, and that his skin is bleached white, not make-up he applies. The actor will still use white make-up, but in the story it'll be his natural skin color. Get it? This insider also said that Joker would look very similar to how he traditionally looks.
Ultimate Movie-Man
11-17-2005, 10:14 PM
Oh okay, sorry! My mistake...thanks Katsuro! That's made me a lot happier!
Sweet can't wait.
regwec
11-18-2005, 11:15 AM
Jett really should edit his site more carefully.
The Joker™
11-18-2005, 03:07 PM
The Joker, but you knew that. :D
CoolAsICE
11-19-2005, 07:14 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing almost any of these. I'm confident that Nolan will bring the best out of whichever characters he uses. But the ones at the top of the list would be Joker, Two-Face, Riddler, Ventriloquist/Scarface, and Bane. I'd love to see a Knightfall-ish story (thus washing out any memory of the Bane goon we saw in Batman & Robin). I'd also like to see an entire movie dedicated to Two-Face and his origin.
CConn
11-19-2005, 08:50 PM
Honestly...whoever the hell Nolan wants to use. His choice of villains in both BB, and now apparently BB2 were/are just excellent, and I have full confidence whichever villains he picks for the films, they were be extraordinary. If I had one specific...wish, it'd probably be to see Harleen Quinzel as head of Arkham in BB2, and maybe a Harley Quinn cameo in BB3.
Katsuro
11-20-2005, 01:33 AM
Really, they dont even have to give her the costume. I'd love it if in the second one, after Joker is captured and goes to Arkham, they bring in Harleen to talk to him and that's it. Just a nod to character, they dont even HAVE to show her. It could be like the end of Red Dragon, where that guy mentions to Hannibal Lecter that Clarice is here to see him, but they dont even show her or anything.
Ultimate Movie-Man
03-05-2006, 03:37 AM
Exactly, I'd love that as well. See? This is comic book movie thinking done right.
warren_sparta27
03-05-2006, 06:39 AM
i'd like to see The Riddler, Batman and Gordon going to him for help, like in 'Red Dragon', i'd like to see Ed Norton play the character.
Had hatter, as a child raper, wacko, maybe abit to violent for a batman film?
and small camoes by, Bane, Ivy and Black Mask.
Golgo-13
03-05-2006, 06:44 PM
People should want to see villans that have never been put on screen before, the most imo. That's why i'd like to see Nolans translation of Killer Croc and The Ventriliquist...
StorminNorman
03-05-2006, 09:41 PM
Give me Harley Quinn and I will be happy, I listed the other classic villians as well, but Quinn is my number 3 villian behind the guaranteed Joker and Two Face.
Would also love to see Hush and/or Black Mask
lochneffmonster
03-05-2006, 09:45 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing almost any of these. I'm confident that Nolan will bring the best out of whichever characters he uses. But the ones at the top of the list would be Joker, Two-Face, Riddler, Ventriloquist/Scarface, and Bane. I'd love to see a Knightfall-ish story (thus washing out any memory of the Bane goon we saw in Batman & Robin). I'd also like to see an entire movie dedicated to Two-Face and his origin.
Oooh. Great idea!:up:
HNutz
03-06-2006, 10:49 PM
Really, they dont even have to give her the costume. I'd love it if in the second one, after Joker is captured and goes to Arkham, they bring in Harleen to talk to him and that's it. Just a nod to character, they dont even HAVE to show her. It could be like the end of Red Dragon, where that guy mentions to Hannibal Lecter that Clarice is here to see him, but they dont even show her or anything.
That works for me. Or they could go the other way (like Karen Page in Daredevil or the Gordons in Batman Begins) and show her (maybe even with a nametag or name on the door, etc.) but not have her really identified. Or something like how they dropped a ton of names during X2...
I'd like to see Harvey Dent, too. Not Two-Face. Not yet, at least. But a movie or two where the new D.A. is fighting the good fight, helping Batman keep folks behind bars.
I'd like to see some Bane action, too. Not a big role. Maybe the muscle of Thorne or whoever's in charge now. His lieutinent, his second in command. Someone who's smart, cunning and maybe planning to overthrow him one of these days...
What, no Man-Bat love here? Or Clayface? Yeah.. they could be hard to realistically pull off, but IF they could, it'd be sweet...
trustyside-kick
03-07-2006, 04:29 PM
I would love to see Bane in one of the sequels done really well.
nolan's roll'n
03-19-2006, 07:17 AM
I want too see the Joker the most. Then Two-Face. Then Dr.Harleen Quinnzel. Then Scarecrow Stage 2. Then Catwoman. Then the Riddler. Then the Mad Hatter. Then Poison Ivy. Then Black Mask. Then Bane. Then Penguin. Then Mr.Freeze.
COMPO
03-19-2006, 08:56 AM
I think that should bring in Hush, Man-Bat. Because we've never seen those characters before and with the Man-Bat character Batman would have to face a much larger form of his fears. I also feel they have redo Bane because then they can have him breaks Batman's back and bring more scope to the Batman character. Where he tries to regain his strength away from Gotham.
DarKush
04-01-2006, 08:10 AM
I would like to see Man Bat, Hugo Strange, Black Mask, Clayface. Mainly because it would be cool to see some villians seen before in the movies. Also the Reaper/Phantasm. There is more Nolan could do with them, and they are good enough to be on the silver screen.
And because the previous movies messed them up, Poison Ivy, Bane, Two Face, Mr. Freeze, and Riddler. I wouldn't mind seeing a more traditional take on the Penguin either, though I really liked what Tim Burton/Danny DeVito did with the character.
If Catwoman and Two Face turn up in the movies, I hope their reveal, and down fall occurs slowly, over the course of two movies. They can be introduced in movie 2 for example, and wreak havoc in movie 3.
Two-Face
04-01-2006, 08:25 AM
Harvey Dent will be in BB2 then will be turn into Two-Face in BB3.
Quentin Beck
04-02-2006, 07:27 AM
I'd like to see The Penguin,Mr Freeze,Killercroc,Bane and Riddler :)
warren_sparta27
04-02-2006, 07:55 AM
i don't know if this should go in this thread or not, but anyway
i was thinking maybe Man-bat could be in the sequals, a guy that is facinated with The Batman, and creates his own winged, flying suit type thing to try and help Batman fight crime.
But...Scarecrow is still in town spreading his fear gas/toxin, Batman gets a dose of it and becomes poisoned. So when he sees Man-Bat, instead of seeing him as some carzy wacko trying to help him, he sees a gaint Bat that's trying to terrorize him.
just an idea i had, what do ya think?
trustyside-kick
04-03-2006, 02:13 PM
Harvey Dent will be in BB2 then will be turn into Two-Face in BB3.
I wonder if they will include Sal Maroni and just slightly change the story before Maroni throws the acid onto Harvey.
newwaveboy87
04-11-2006, 12:26 AM
i'm down with Joker, Two-Face, more Scarecrow, Penguin, Riddler, Catwoman, and Harley Quinn. and i know how i want most of them to be incorporated too.
Ultimate Movie-Man
04-11-2006, 02:15 AM
After the floppiest flop that ever flopped, Catwoman, I'm really eager to see what Nolan can do with Selina Kyle.
warren_sparta27
04-11-2006, 03:01 AM
i don't know if this should go in this thread or not, but anyway
i was thinking maybe Man-bat could be in the sequals, a guy that is facinated with The Batman, and creates his own winged, flying suit type thing to try and help Batman fight crime.
But...Scarecrow is still in town spreading his fear gas/toxin, Batman gets a dose of it and becomes poisoned. So when he sees Man-Bat, instead of seeing him as some carzy wacko trying to help him, he sees a gaint Bat that's trying to terrorize him.
just an idea i had, what do ya think?
so know one had any thoughts on this idea?:(
Ultimate Movie-Man
04-11-2006, 03:23 AM
well, it's just the gas problem was cleaned up before BB ended. Te only problems were that the prisoners of Arkham and the Scarecrow were let loose.
Joker, Riddler, Penguin, Man Bat, Mr. Feeze, every other male villain was in that group I think.
warren_sparta27
04-11-2006, 05:41 AM
but that doesn't mean Scarecrow can't develop a new kind of fear gas
Ultimate Movie-Man
04-11-2006, 09:31 AM
I didnt think about that, but now I do, it wouldn't be a major part of the sequel, IMO. Sorry if I sound like a hater of all of your ideas I'm just saying what might happen...
trustyside-kick
04-11-2006, 08:10 PM
but that doesn't mean Scarecrow can't develop a new kind of fear gas
One of my favorite episodes from the New Batman Animated Series or whatever the proper name is...was that episode "Never Fear". Scarecrow developed a new hallucigen that instead of causing fear it took away fear and caused several problems especially when Bats got a wiff of it and got super careless.
Maybe they could do something like that if they give Scarecrow some movie time in the future films.
newwaveboy87
04-11-2006, 08:12 PM
that would be cool, i think that they could do something interesting by teaming Scarecrow with a revised Poison Ivy. would that not be amazing?
warren_sparta27
04-12-2006, 12:58 AM
a Poison Ivy and Scarcrow team would be great, i've been thinking of something like that for awhile.
Ultimate Movie-Man
04-12-2006, 01:11 AM
I dunno...it could wor but I can't picture it at the moment.
Are you talking about Poison Ivy supplying the plants for fear gas? Coz then it could work.
I am now converted:p
newwaveboy87
04-12-2006, 11:45 AM
yep, she supplies him with her little plants, possibly some mutated for a particularly horrendous strain of his fear gas? it would be interesting. she could always double cross him and use some of his basic research for her own plant mutation work.
it could be interesting.
Ronny Shade
04-12-2006, 12:48 PM
Double crossing villains is what dreams are made of.
Mr. Socko
04-12-2006, 04:10 PM
I'd love to see:
Scarecrow(return)
Joker
Mr. Freeze
Two Face
Ventriloquist
Harley Quinn
Bane
Riddler
Ra's Al Ghul(return)
Hush
Dark Guardian
04-12-2006, 05:47 PM
Yeah, in my opinion, they should hold off a little for the Joker. If need be, have him first, but don't crowd too many villians in there with him. He is after all the Clown Prince of Crime. Two Face as well should get his own movie, modeled after the TAS episode(two parter) that introduced him because that was perfect. What people don't realise is that Two-Face is just as dangerous as Joker because Harvey was Bruce's long time friend. Joker he can knock around all he wants, but Two-Face brings a whole different aspect to it because Bruce doesn't want to hurt him, but cure him. Freeze they just HAVE to do after Heart of Ice from TAS, because that is the perfect Mr. Freeze.
So as my line up goes:
I think they should do:
Two Face first, in his own movie with maybe the Scarecrow returning because he's still at large.
Joker. Own movie, no-one else.
Mr. Freeze. Own Movie
The Ventriloquist maybe with someone like Black Mask, because those two are similar.
Bane
Riddler
Ra's Al Ghul really should come back cuz he really can't die like that. They need to somehow put in the Lazirus Pit.
Riddler
etc.
warren_sparta27
04-12-2006, 10:58 PM
I dunno...it could wor but I can't picture it at the moment.
Are you talking about Poison Ivy supplying the plants for fear gas? Coz then it could work.
I am now converted:p
that's what i was thinkning of, Poison Ivy being Cranes supplier of the plants.
Rabid_Rust
04-23-2006, 11:31 AM
I think they should have Bane for sure, because it seems to me, that villains like the penguin and the joker don't pose much of a physical threat to batman.
Another villain would be Man-Bat, just to have batman have to face his greatest fear.
I'd also like to see Ras Al Ghul (don't know how to spell it) I remeber reading awhile back on this forum someone saying something like "RAs cant die like that cuz he's an immortal, member he said so!" When Ra's said "Or, is Ra's Al Ghul immortal?" Or whatever, I think that he meant the name is, and it's passed on from master to student, so I'd like to see the next Ra's Al Ghul.
TheFalcon
04-23-2006, 12:11 PM
I'd like to see these villains:
Joker (Lachy Hulme or Paul Bettany)
Two-Face (Liev Shcreiber or Guy Pearce)
The Riddler (Ed Norton)
Catwoman (not sure, but someone that looks like Selina in the comics)
Penguin (Hoffman, maybe)
Two-Face
04-23-2006, 12:27 PM
I'd like to see these villains:
Joker (Lachy Hulme or Paul Bettany)
Two-Face (Liev Shcreiber or Guy Pearce)
The Riddler (Ed Norton)
Catwoman (not sure, but someone that looks like Selina in the comics)
Penguin (Hoffman, maybe)
When you say someone that would like the comics but who? There is different artists draw Catwoman.
Ultimate Movie-Man
04-23-2006, 12:29 PM
Someone with short black hair, someone who looks distinguised, and someone who can act...is what I think of when I read "like the comic"
newwaveboy87
04-23-2006, 12:31 PM
Charlize Theron for Catwoman!
dont try and act like she didn't look good with black hair.
Two-Face
04-23-2006, 12:34 PM
Blond or not she will be looking good.
http://www.canmag.com/images/front/movies2005/aeon1.jpg
newwaveboy87
04-23-2006, 12:37 PM
besides, the more important thing - she CAN act
Mr. Socko
04-23-2006, 01:31 PM
besides, the more important thing - she CAN act
Good looks and can act!
MY GAWD!!!
I've found our Catwoman:up::up::)
newwaveboy87
04-23-2006, 01:38 PM
dont you forget it
Mr. Socko
04-23-2006, 02:04 PM
Scarecrow
Joker
Catwoman
Penguin
Mr. Freeze
Two-Face
Mad Hatter
Clayface
Ventriloquist
Harley Quinn
Bane
Riddler
Black Mask
Zsasz
I want to see everyone on that list in a Batman sequel at one point in time, I wouldn't mind Poison Ivy either.
trustyside-kick
04-23-2006, 02:48 PM
Good looks and can act!
MY GAWD!!!
I've found our Catwoman:up::up::)
Nah, I would rather see Kate Beckinsale.
newwaveboy87
04-23-2006, 07:38 PM
i wouldn't mind either or actually. just as long as it's NOT Angelina Jolie, i think i'll be ok.
trustyside-kick
04-24-2006, 08:27 PM
Ya...she is hot, a good actor and sort of looks like some artists Selina Kyle if she had short hair...but you don't want a red carpet celebrity like her...especially not for a comic movie.
newwaveboy87
04-24-2006, 08:30 PM
who are you talking about? Charlize? Angelina?
trustyside-kick
04-24-2006, 08:31 PM
I was talking about Jolie cause you said "as long as it is NOT Angelina Jolie". Thought that was clear.
newwaveboy87
04-24-2006, 08:34 PM
ok, just making sure. you know, i really don't think Angelina is that good of an actress. she's good at playing particular TYPES, but she's not really terribly diverse. she's ALWAYS the tough hottie or the complete psychopath, and she always OVERacts in either of those roles lately. she works better in a small supporting role like in Girl Interrupted or Sky Captain. but i will give up to her for her work in Gia, her only good leading performance to date.
i want Charlize or Kate in the role. either one of them would make me happy!!
^_^
trustyside-kick
04-24-2006, 08:36 PM
I guess I could see Charlize in the Catwoman suit...but as Selina Kyle? That is what bothers me.
newwaveboy87
04-24-2006, 08:37 PM
i could see her as both of them, she's a really talented actress.
see Monster, 2 Days In the Valley, Celebrity, North Country, and Devil's Advocate for proof of her talents.
trustyside-kick
04-24-2006, 08:39 PM
This is a stupid reason but maybe it is cause I have always seen her as a blonde? Lol. Basically cause I really want to see Kate get the role. :)
newwaveboy87
04-24-2006, 08:40 PM
ah, well, Aeon Flux is fun but dumb and shows her with black hair and in a catsuit, check that out if you need help seeing her as Catwoman.
trustyside-kick
05-04-2006, 12:21 AM
ah, well, Aeon Flux is fun but dumb and shows her with black hair and in a catsuit, check that out if you need help seeing her as Catwoman.
Ya but...I want Beckinsale for that role. :P
newwaveboy87
05-04-2006, 12:28 AM
either/or
trustyside-kick
05-04-2006, 08:05 PM
It would be cool to see David Cain or Slade Wilson make an appearance in the sequels.
ganstaman56
05-07-2006, 06:17 PM
u just ripped this off of my thread!
trustyside-kick
05-07-2006, 06:21 PM
No? This guy made this thread months ago.
Two-Face
05-07-2006, 06:36 PM
yeah it was made 11-10-2005.
trustyside-kick
05-07-2006, 06:38 PM
Yea, so if anything ganstaman56 you copied him un-knowingly only yours is villains you don't want to see in the sequels.
StorminNorman
05-07-2006, 07:05 PM
gangstaman annoys me :( :down
newwaveboy87
05-08-2006, 12:19 PM
gangstaman annoys me :( :down
seconded
bdsproductions
05-08-2006, 08:18 PM
The Joker
Two-Face
Riddler
Catwoman
Scarecrow
The Penguin
those not listed:
Black Mask
Calendar Man (one of my favourite villains)
trustyside-kick
05-08-2006, 09:01 PM
Calendar Man does not do anything really. We know that he is in arkham for committing crimes that coincide with the calendar but he has not appeared in any other comics after TLH. I liked his role in it and in DV but I don't know about seeing him in the future films unless you just see him at arkham briefly.
newwaveboy87
05-08-2006, 09:02 PM
Calendar Man could be an awesome cameo.
bdsproductions
05-08-2006, 09:54 PM
Calendar Man could be an awesome cameo.
true.
PS i LOVE your Avatar.
newwaveboy87
05-08-2006, 09:57 PM
who could you not? i'm recruiting Hype members at an alarming rate with it. soon...i shall take control over it!
trustyside-kick
05-08-2006, 10:36 PM
Calendar Man could be an awesome cameo.
Would not be a long cameo. I bet if they did do that most people would not notice. I do not know if this is true but someone talked about in Batman Begins during the prison escape they showed some people that looked like some villains..specifically The Ventriloquist for one.
newwaveboy87
05-08-2006, 10:37 PM
they showed Zsasz
trustyside-kick
05-09-2006, 07:06 PM
I can care less about Zsaz. They showed end of his trial...showed him at the escape and after the escape as he was about to attack Rachel and the boy....big whoop.
newwaveboy87
05-09-2006, 08:32 PM
*shrugs*
a Calendar Man cameo that size could work. besides, i was just responding to your whole during the prison escape they showed some villians thing. i know for sure they showed Zsasz, i need to rewatch and see if i can spot anyone else.
trustyside-kick
05-09-2006, 08:35 PM
*shrugs*
a Calendar Man cameo that size could work. besides, i was just responding to your whole during the prison escape they showed some villians thing. i know for sure they showed Zsasz, i need to rewatch and see if i can spot anyone else.
Ok. Yea basically the same or a little less of camera time for Calendar Man's cameo would be cool.
newwaveboy87
05-09-2006, 08:36 PM
i want Penguin to have a Falcone sized role. that would be cool.
i also liked the rumor about Phillip Seymour Hoffman for the role. i wonder what he'd look like with black hair dye...hmm...
trustyside-kick
05-09-2006, 09:12 PM
Yea...Batman Returns was a good movie don't get me wrong...but I rather have Penguin portrayed as the mob boss and all more than him just being some freak side-show pissed.
newwaveboy87
05-09-2006, 09:14 PM
i prefer the freak side show, but i want him to be the mob boss.
i also want a Falcone, or smaller, sized role for The Riddler in a future sequel. i want them to use him like TLH or DV.
trustyside-kick
05-09-2006, 09:18 PM
Omg my favorite issue in TLH was probably the one The Riddler was in. That issue he came up with possible scenarios of who Holiday could have been and at the same time Bats did. :up: :)
newwaveboy87
05-09-2006, 09:20 PM
that was a great moment! and i usually dislike The Riddler strongly.
trustyside-kick
05-09-2006, 09:20 PM
Well, his appearance in Dark Victory was not as cool. Probably only the fact that Batman scared the crap out of him. But at the end of the interrogation when he mentioned that the game Hang Man is played with two people or else it would be stupid because then the one person playing would know the answer was cool. Made me think maybe 2 people were teamed up with the Hang Man killings. Like maybe Calendar Man and someone...since you see in TLH and DV Calendar Man saying several times "The Calendar Man is being forgotten...that is unacceptable."
newwaveboy87
05-09-2006, 09:22 PM
true, but i like him as an informant for Batman.
he's not really a bad guy, or a good guy, or a threat really. he's just this lowly weasel type. i like him like that.
or like how he was in BTAS
trustyside-kick
05-09-2006, 09:23 PM
Oh um...I editted my post while you were replying appearently...did you notice?
newwaveboy87
05-09-2006, 09:25 PM
i just now noticed.
how i took it in DV was that there was two people playing Hangman. i think Sofia, if given the chance, was going to place the entire blame upon her brother once everything was done. which is why Calendar Man is allowed to toy with him in the house for that whole time.
she was also probably going to turn around and take CM out after she was finished. she was infinitely crueler than her father.
trustyside-kick
05-09-2006, 09:32 PM
i just now noticed.
how i took it in DV was that there was two people playing Hangman. i think Sofia, if given the chance, was going to place the entire blame upon her brother once everything was done. which is why Calendar Man is allowed to toy with him in the house for that whole time.
she was also probably going to turn around and take CM out after she was finished. she was infinitely crueler than her father.
Ya I always though that there were two people behind this Hang Man as well and only because of that issue with The Riddler. I thought Calendar Man was one and I knew it could not have been Alberto aka Holiday because of not only his parole but because would be too obvious then. Never suspected Sophia though...the fact that the killings happened to Cops was making it hard to decide who could have been Hang Man. I did not realize their connection with Dent.
newwaveboy87
05-09-2006, 09:33 PM
i couldn't figure it out for the life of me!!
the ending surprised me. i didn't buy the whole Two-Face killing them angle.
trustyside-kick
05-09-2006, 09:37 PM
Yea you could tell Two-Face was not Hang Man because all of the police evidence was pointing to him and Loeb would never make it that obvious.
To get back on topic a bit..I could see Firefly although ignored a lot in the comics and a bit in the animated series would be a good villain. With Nolan taking a little more realistic twist on Batman (but not to the extreme thank god) he would be a great villain. Maybe not a main villain but certainly a big role.
newwaveboy87
05-09-2006, 09:40 PM
i still maintain that i want Poison Ivy to be given justice!!
i always liked her.
trustyside-kick
05-09-2006, 09:41 PM
I dunno...what are some of the Batman storylines that she played a huge role? I do not see Poison Ivy as that great of a villain.
newwaveboy87
05-09-2006, 09:44 PM
i want her to have a SMALL role.
no need to give you a big one, i'd like to see her and Scarecrow team-up....i think i already brought this up in the thread....? hmm...let me go check.
yep...here it is!
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8416686&postcount=41
The Riddler
He just seems like the *perfect* wimp character with more power than people imagine. He's obviously a nervous wreck, and he only gives his witty cutting (yet very intelligent) remarks far away from threat (ala David Spade). He'd be the guy Batman doesn't bother trying to get done with very quickly - he's an old eccentric businessman who wears a dark green suit and bowler hat, with a '?' cane----not too dangerous. But he's the brains of Gotham, and Batman interrogates him if he needs information....I also like the previously stated idea of him being a "human lie-detector."
To be honest, he is the only villain I really want to see on screen--done correctly. Jim Carrey could've been great in the role, but under a director like Chris Nolan. Joel Schumacher ruined an otherwise memorable performance with his over-the-top homosexual bag of crap dressed in spandex.
NinjaTurtleFan
05-31-2006, 03:54 PM
The Riddler
He just seems like the *perfect* wimp character with more power than people imagine. He's obviously a nervous wreck, and he only gives his witty cutting (yet very intelligent) remarks far away from threat (ala David Spade). He'd be the guy Batman doesn't bother trying to get done with very quickly - he's an old eccentric businessman who wears a dark green suit and bowler hat, with a '?' cane----not too dangerous. But he's the brains of Gotham, and Batman interrogates him if he needs information....I also like the previously stated idea of him being a "human lie-detector."
To be honest, he is the only villain I really want to see on screen--done correctly. Jim Carrey could've been great in the role, but under a director like Chris Nolan. Joel Schumacher ruined an otherwise memorable performance with his over-the-top homosexual bag of crap dressed in spandex.
I think and this is a bit of a stretch, but David Hyde Pierce would be a good Riddler. Look at his character Niles on "Fraiser" he was a big wimp, but was witty and intelligent.
trustyside-kick
05-31-2006, 04:30 PM
Pierce would be great...got the looks, voice, attitude, talent to pull off The Riddler.
newwaveboy87
05-31-2006, 04:33 PM
i'll give you everything but voice for Riddler.
he sounds too soft. watch Hellboy, and listen to him voice Abe Sapien - he sounds intelligent but way too soft.
unless we're going to go with the TLH/DV version of Riddler here?
tallsy_1
06-02-2006, 09:05 AM
I want to see The Riddler, portrayed darkly as well. I think with villains it's more important for the actor to have a bit of themselves in the part. That's why for casting. I would worry less about looks other than age, and look for a talented actor who does crossword puzzles or soduku in his spare time. Riddler is a high risk/high reward villain, and I think the actor would need to see a little bit of himself in the role.
newwaveboy87
06-02-2006, 01:34 PM
i still say Edward Norton would be wonderful
grabmygladys
06-02-2006, 01:48 PM
Joker, Harley Quinn, TwoFace, and Catwoman.
Two-Face
06-02-2006, 01:49 PM
i still say Edward Norton would be wonderful
Yes, he's my choice for "The Riddler":up:
newwaveboy87
06-02-2006, 01:57 PM
i recently saw ALL of American History X, and he scared me...:(:up:
he could be great in the role.
tallsy_1
06-02-2006, 02:00 PM
I just see Nolan going with a smaller name for The Riddler. What about Jonathan Rhys Meyers. He did an excellent acting job in Match Point. But can also do action, as seen in MI:3.
newwaveboy87
06-02-2006, 02:04 PM
he might be too pretty for Riddler.
but then again, Cillian Murphy is too pretty for Scarecrow....hmm....
trustyside-kick
06-02-2006, 02:09 PM
I just see Nolan going with a smaller name for The Riddler. What about Jonathan Rhys Meyers. He did an excellent acting job in Match Point. But can also do action, as seen in MI:3.
I agree. Nolan most likely would not pick someone as well known as Norton for a role like The Riddler.
grabmygladys
06-02-2006, 02:17 PM
Ed Norton would make a great Riddler!!
captain_jimbo
06-02-2006, 03:24 PM
Ed Norton would make a great Riddler!!
Actually, I wasn't convinced at first, but now that I've thought about it, he could probably play it really well, in a similar style to the animated series.:up:
NinjaTurtleFan
06-02-2006, 03:32 PM
Edward Norton I kind of wanted to see as The Joker like Tim Roth and Sam Rockwell. I don't know if I could see him as The Riddler, maybe a art manip would seduce me into saying "yes" but I think David Hyde Pierce would be the closest thing to the cartoon version of Riddler.
newwaveboy87
06-02-2006, 03:37 PM
i couldn't see Norton as Joker.
nor could i see Tim Roth, despite all of the manips i've seen.
Rockwell i could see as Joker.
captain_jimbo
06-02-2006, 03:45 PM
I'd also love to see Mr. Freeze done properly, with Christopher Lloyd as Freeze.
trustyside-kick
06-02-2006, 03:49 PM
I'd also love to see Mr. Freeze done properly, with Christopher Lloyd as Freeze.
I'd prefer Bill Nighly.
captain_jimbo
06-02-2006, 03:53 PM
I'd prefer Bill Nighly.
Hmmm...that's a pretty interesting choice.:)
newwaveboy87
06-02-2006, 03:54 PM
i'd like to see Aaron Eckhart play Freeze.
trustyside-kick
06-02-2006, 03:58 PM
Guy from the Punisher? Iono.
newwaveboy87
06-02-2006, 04:00 PM
he wasn't in Punisher....:confused:
trustyside-kick
06-02-2006, 04:06 PM
he wasn't in Punisher....:confused:
I wasn't sure of the actor and I googled him up and the pictures looked like that guy in the recent Punisher movie. Sorry, yea it is the wrong guy...one picture he looked like the actor I was thinking of. :O
NinjaTurtleFan
06-02-2006, 04:19 PM
I wasn't sure of the actor and I googled him up and the pictures looked like that guy in the recent Punisher movie. Sorry, yea it is the wrong guy...one picture he looked like the actor I was thinking of. :O
You're thinking of Thomas Jane bub. ;) :unishr:
newwaveboy87
06-02-2006, 04:27 PM
Tom Jane was hot in Punisher.
Eckhart was in Insomnia, Nurse Betty, Thank You For Smoking, and is in the upcoming Black Dahlia.
trustyside-kick
06-02-2006, 05:08 PM
Tom Jane was hot in Punisher.
Eckhart was in Insomnia, Nurse Betty, Thank You For Smoking, and is in the upcoming Black Dahlia.
Than I cannot really judge on that actor since I have not seen him in action. Only thing I can go by is looks and I couldn't see him look-wise as Freeze.
newwaveboy87
06-02-2006, 05:09 PM
he's an amazing actor!
truly, he is underrated.
maxmccumber
06-02-2006, 07:18 PM
They gotta introduce Roman Sionis (Black Mask) and have Joaquin Phoenix play him. He'd be ideal for the part.
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trustyside-kick
06-02-2006, 07:33 PM
Didn't they say and hint how Black Mask was going to be in the sequel?
newwaveboy87
06-02-2006, 07:39 PM
not outright, but there's been rumors.
Cinemaman
06-03-2006, 03:41 AM
My TOP4:
1. Joker
2. Two-Face
3. Penguin
4. Riddler
newwaveboy87
06-03-2006, 11:46 AM
i want Catwoman to come back! and this time...to REALLY be Catwoman.
and, Jackman for Dent? never gonna happen.
he's too involved with the X-Men franchise, and now the Wolverine spin-off to do another comic book movie franchise.
trustyside-kick
06-03-2006, 11:58 AM
I would not like to see Jackman as Dent...
newwaveboy87
06-03-2006, 12:04 PM
me niether.
i also loathe this Josh Lucas as Dent rumor.
the Schreiber one...that is just pure genius.
titan101
06-21-2006, 08:49 PM
isn't it obvious?
joker.
JTStarkiller
06-21-2006, 09:30 PM
I read somewhere that they weren't sure whether or not The Joker would be the villain for part II, even though they alluded to it at the end of Begins.
Did I just dream that?
newwaveboy87
06-21-2006, 11:25 PM
i think you did.
there's nothing but talk of possible Joker and Two-Face casting - i think it's safe to say those two are a lock.
everything else is up in the air.
Mr.Dent
06-26-2006, 05:45 PM
Have any of you guys read The Forensic Files of Batman? It's a book filled with case files, basically like CSI: Batman.
Anyway, the last chapter would be awesome as a movie.
It shows Batman searching for a serial killer (Zsasz) who kidnaps women, strings them up above him, tortures them for a couple of days, then stabs them from down under, lets the blood pour over him, and then proceeds to slice a "third eye" in their face. Anyway, the whole chapter scared the willies out of me, and even though there was no action except for the final battle (Wich was badass), I hardly noticed. IT was so engaging and exciting to follow Batman through the DETECTIVE work.
Of course when I think about it, it would be a slow and dull movie, but it's just so awesome, I really recommend you guys read it.
But yeah my suggestion is Mr. Zsasz. He's badass and very, very scary.
Marvel Man
07-01-2006, 04:11 AM
Story-wise i would like to see Catwoman be like a side-story that just rbs palces and she is an easy person tell the background of, just make her a theatric Cat-burglar
ISHMAEL
07-01-2006, 03:36 PM
I'd prefer Bill Nighly.
I'D PREFER ED HARRIS
xwolverine2
07-01-2006, 03:55 PM
mostly the ones the dont defy the laws of nature.
joker
catwoman(burgler)
two face
harley quinn
scarecrow
..and bane i made an execption because im sure they could make it seem real
HBKfan28
07-15-2006, 01:57 AM
Catwoman, Joker, Riddler, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, Penguin, Croc.
Not have Catwoman be a full on villain, more like the burgler who toys with Batman, and maybe even helps him once.
Yurka
07-15-2006, 05:28 AM
joker, killer croc, two face
nolan's roll'n
07-15-2006, 10:24 AM
mostly the ones the dont defy the laws of nature.
joker
catwoman(burgler)
two face
harley quinn
scarecrow
..and bane i made an execption because im sure they could make it seem real
:up: :up:
nolan's roll'n
07-15-2006, 10:54 AM
-The Joker
-Two-Face
-The Riddler
-Scarecrow (stage 2)
-Harley Quinn
-Penguin
-Catwoman
-Poison Ivy
ReptileOrion
07-15-2006, 12:25 PM
It would be interesting to see the character of Lady Shiva in a film. It would be difficult for her to carry the film as a main villian. The inclusion of her character would make for one hell of a fight scene with Bats.
BatFitz
07-15-2006, 08:22 PM
I would definitely love to see Clayface!
trustyside-kick
07-15-2006, 08:42 PM
-The Joker
-Two-Face
-The Riddler
-Scarecrow (stage 2)
-Harley Quinn
-Penguin
-Catwoman
-Poison Ivy
I bolded that because it stuck out to me the most. While I do not wish to see villains repeated that was an interesting idea. Crane got a taste of some of his own medicine when he tried to attack Bats from behind and next we see him crazier than usual while in Arkham and then again at the end on his horse. It would be interesting if they did bring him back to have him look more like we see him in the comics.
If someone feels that it would not fit cause of Nolan's realistic-verse then check out the Batman OYL arc where we see Scarecrow in a different more 'realistic' (if you will) suit.
Borat
07-15-2006, 09:00 PM
mostly the ones the dont defy the laws of nature.
joker
catwoman(burgler)
two face
harley quinn
scarecrow
..and bane i made an execption because im sure they could make it seem realThe fear gas in BB was easy to make seem real, so Bane's venom wouldn't be too much harder. Or even if they made it a new type of powerful steroid.
newwaveboy87
07-16-2006, 04:44 PM
Catwoman, Joker, Riddler, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, Penguin, Croc.
Not have Catwoman be a full on villain, more like the burgler who toys with Batman, and maybe even helps him once.
that's what i'm taking about! :o :up:
nolan's roll'n
07-17-2006, 07:50 AM
Scarecrow Stage 2 in one of the sequels. The reason they didn't put it in BB, I don't know. They were going to but I think they changed their mind.
The Hurricane
07-17-2006, 10:38 PM
You know Im a bit dissapointed to see Joker is going to be in this movie. I know he is everyones favourate and I know I wont be disapointed but I was looking forward to seeing something new. We have already seen the joker before.
Batman 3- Two Face, Roman Sionis (Black Mask), Arnold Wesker (Ventriloqust), introduce Selina Kyle as pre-Catwoman love interest of Bruce Wayne
Batman 4- Hush, Catwoman, Mad Hatter
Laderlappen
09-15-2007, 05:26 AM
III - Two-face, Joker, Catwoman(but not as a villian), & maybe, just maybe, Alberto Falcone
Mr. Socko
09-15-2007, 12:18 PM
I've posted this in another thread:
TDK will have: Joker, Two Face(minor), Scarecrow(minor), Maroni
So I'll say...
Batman 3:Two Face, Joker(minor) Catwoman(?), Penguin(minor), Thorne
Doubt they'll will go past 3 with this team so I'll just stop there.
Catwoman is pending, sometimes I want her in the third film, sometimes not.
DonnyLebeau
09-15-2007, 12:46 PM
Edward Nygma - Depending on whether Anthony Michael Hall is him in DK.
Rupert Thorne - There always seems to be a mob boss in the Nolan era.
Tony Zucco - IF Grayson is introduced in part 3 then Zucco will no doubt there.
And obviously 2 Face. But oddball characters like Penguin, Croc and Scarface/Ventriliquist shouldn't be in these movies as they would make it a laughing stock and take away the dark element of realism Nolan has set.
Having Joker or Scarecrow as minor villains is useless. I'd rather see Raas Al-Ghul return in someone elses body(Thalia) ala Batman Beyond than have Scarecrow or Mister J play a sidekick. Cameos of them in Arkham is fine but bringing them back just to be killed off is pointless.
I wouldn't mind seeing a live action rendition of "The Trial" from BTAS where all the villains held a court case against Bats and teamed up to kill him.
IzzyJG99
09-15-2007, 01:06 PM
The trouble with this reboot (Which I love, btw) is that it's realistic. Trouble with that is that it's a comic book character so naturally some of these villains that make Batman great just are not workable at all. Which I hate, but eh it's cool. There's still plenty of other good villains to choose from.
I think Black Mask, Tony Zucco, The Joker, Two Face, Scarecrow and others that're a bit more grounded like them will work fine.
I honestly think that if Anthony Michael Hall is playing Riddler...then he'll make the character really good. That's probably the only thing I liked about Batman Forever. The riddles and clues that Batman had to deduce with Alfred. (Which btw should have been in the cave even if it was destroyed..)
Eagle_23
09-15-2007, 04:43 PM
Two Face
Joker (minor)
Riddler or Penquin (Bob Hoskins...PLEASE), but not both (minor)
Alberto Falcone (just an apperance, not a full on villian role)
AND
IF there's going to be a Batman 4 than in #3 I'd like Selina Kyle to be introduced and still have a fairly large role, but no Catwoman apperance till #4. Otherwise if there's no plans for a fourth than she HAS to appear as Catwoman in #3. Of course though too, Catwoman really isn't a villian. But she needs to get her due's after the horrible Catwoman movie and I think Nolan would create/cast an amazing Catwoman.
Laderlappen
09-15-2007, 05:11 PM
I think the greatest of allcomic book villian time deserves more than just a minor part.
az824
09-15-2007, 05:31 PM
3: Two-Face and Catwoman, joker (small role)
4: poison ivy, penguin and riddler
Nepenthes
09-15-2007, 11:52 PM
3: Penquin, Catwoman, Joker, Two-Face,
There will be no 4
Laderlappen
09-16-2007, 04:30 AM
3: Penquin, Catwoman, Joker, Two-Face,
There will be no 4 That's too many. We don't need Penguin.
Maybe we don't, but I think we all agree that Pinguin played by Philip Seymour Hoffman would be ass-kicking :D
And maybe I'm taking this 'realistic approach' a bit to far from the original comics, but I think that the Pinguin could really work in Nolan's Batman universe when he is portraited as a man who has only two stump arms because of an accident or something...instead of those wing like arms deVito had in Returns
Nepenthes
09-16-2007, 05:16 AM
That's too many. We don't need Penguin.
Two-Face needs a new mob rival
The trouble with this reboot (Which I love, btw) is that it's realistic. Trouble with that is that it's a comic book character so naturally some of these villains that make Batman great just are not workable at all. Which I hate, but eh it's cool. There's still plenty of other good villains to choose from.
Most villains can work in the Nolan series, they just have to be adapted to suit it, just because they wouldn't have the exact same look/costumes doesn't mean they still couldn't work. Here's a list of the rouges I think can be adapted to suit the Nolan series quite easily.
Catwoman
Penguin
Riddler
Harley Quinn
Talia al Ghul
Hush
Lady Shiva
Bane
That's quite a large list. These however are the more difficult ones:
Mr Freeze
Man-Bat
Clayface
Killer Croc
Mad Hatter
The one I'm fence sitting on is Poison Ivy, she the one I can't really decided on.
Gotham22
09-16-2007, 04:07 PM
Batman 3
Two-Face
Catwoman
Mr. Socko
09-25-2007, 02:45 PM
I don't think I want Catwoman in the third film now. Joker and Two Face as well as another minor villain are enough. Especially considering how much screentime Joker and Two Face would demand, see as how important characters they are. I don't think Catwoman would be able to fit in there. If she did, she probably wouldn't have much screentime. Two Face, Joker, and a third minor villain will be doing their things. I don't see a need to throw in Catwoman too, as she would more than likely serve as a villain.
In Begins, Ra's was the main villain with Falcone and Scarecrow serving as supporting villains, or pawns, if you will. In The Dark Knight, Joker will be the main villain with Scarecrow & Maroni serving as supporting villains with Two Face being introduced at the very end. They always have a main villain and supporting. Batman 3 will(supposedly) have Two Face and Joker, Two Face being the main villain and hopefully Joker not too far behind. Catwoman would then have to sacrifice a spot as a small supporting villain, I'd rather just save her for when she could play a larger role.
FaT_tONle
09-25-2007, 03:17 PM
Nolan needs to shove Penguin, Riddler, or Sionis in there eventually... ideally... all those guys need a supporting role or at least a cameo... I'd like to see a mention of Selina Kyle... also Joker shouldn't be front and center again... I'd even prefer they leave the door opened on the character instead of closing his arc.
Villains for Batman 3
Main Role
Two Face
Supporting
Joker
Catwoman (Ambiguous)
Minor Role
Harley Quinn
Laderlappen
09-25-2007, 04:15 PM
^Perfect! Minus Harley Quinn.
Hellion
09-25-2007, 05:08 PM
I'm not going to go into where in the films they should appear...but more as if they could work on film:
Nocturna
Firefly
Lady Shiva
Talia Al Ghul
Poison Ivy
Catwoman
Penguin
The Riddler
...and maybe...Killer Croc
Mr. Socko
09-26-2007, 03:25 PM
Nolan needs to shove Penguin, Riddler, or Sionis in there eventually... ideally... all those guys need a supporting role or at least a cameo... I'd like to see a mention of Selina Kyle... also Joker shouldn't be front and center again... I'd even prefer they leave the door opened on the character instead of closing his arc.
Two Face will be the main villain of Batman 3. With Joker coming back as well. Do you want Penguin, Riddler, & Sionis all in Batman 3 as well? Or are you saying if Nolan goes past 3...If not, I sure as hell wouldn't want all of them crowded together in one 2.3 hour film.
Laderlappen
09-26-2007, 03:33 PM
Two Face will be the main villain of Batman 3. With Joker coming back as well. Do you want Penguin, Riddler, & Sionis all in Batman 3 as well? Or are you saying if Nolan goes past 3...If not, I sure as hell wouldn't want all of them crowded together in one 2.3 hour film.
Don't forget that Catwoman might be in it as well.
LexCorp
09-27-2007, 06:55 AM
I would like to see Clayface...if they can do what they did for sandman in S3 they can do it for Clayface.
FaT_tONle
09-27-2007, 06:10 PM
Two Face will be the main villain of Batman 3. With Joker coming back as well. Do you want Penguin, Riddler, & Sionis all in Batman 3 as well? Or are you saying if Nolan goes past 3...If not, I sure as hell wouldn't want all of them crowded together in one 2.3 hour film.
It just really irks me that we may have to be stuck with DeVito's take on that character... or Carrey's take on Riddler... I don't know who AMH is playing so don't tell me... Sionis you can probably do away with as well. But I do hope that Selina rumor a while back is true. Heck... I'll be happy if we even get a third flick.
Mr. Socko
09-27-2007, 10:29 PM
I'm sure we'll eventually get new version of Penguin and Riddler.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
10-04-2007, 03:23 AM
The dark knight- Joker, Scarecrow (minor)
Batman (III) - Joker (minor), Two-face, Bane (I hope over catwoman)
The dark knight- Joker, Scarecrow (minor)
Batman (III) - Joker (minor), Two-face, Bane (I hope over catwoman)
Bane? Interesting choice.
The Riddler is an obvious choice for the third film because he's a fan favorite that could "work in the real world" like Nolan likes it, but because he appeared with Two Face in Batman Forever it's highly unlikely we'll get him.
Nolan said he doesn't care too much for the Penguin.
So I suppose that leaves Catwoman and some tier two villians like The Mad Hatter etc...
Venom 1988
10-04-2007, 10:15 AM
Nolan said he doesn't care too much for the Penguin.Its not that Nolan doesn't care for him, he just feels that hes too unrealistic which doesnt make any sense because he could easily work in these movies.
Laderlappen
10-04-2007, 10:44 AM
Its not that Nolan doesn't care for him, he just feels that hes too unrealistic which doesnt make any sense because he could easily work in these movies.Penguin sucks anyway so what's the problem?
Bat-Mite
10-04-2007, 11:16 AM
The Penguin would only work as a minor villain, similar to how Falcone was in Begins. I just don't think he'd be interesting enough to use as a main villain.
Mr. Socko
10-04-2007, 07:42 PM
Its not that Nolan doesn't care for him, he just feels that hes too unrealistic which doesnt make any sense because he could easily work in these movies.
When asked about Phillip Seymour Hoffman as the Penguin a year ago, Nolan said he'd be more excited to have Hoffman in the film than the Penguin. And said he was a "tricky character to handle."
So I doubt we'll get the Penguin in any of Nolan's Batman films.
http://www.movies.go.com/tipster?id=854868
David Rice
10-04-2007, 08:55 PM
The dark knight- Joker, Scarecrow (minor)
Batman (III) - Joker (minor), Two-face, Bane (I hope over catwoman)
:huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:
I'll bet my bank accounts it will be Joker (minor role), Two Face and Catwoman.
Nepenthes
10-04-2007, 09:01 PM
^ with Penguin in a minor role. Two-Face needs another mobster to go up against. and Penguin's one character that can work best in a crowd
David Rice
10-04-2007, 09:03 PM
^ with Penguin in a minor role. Two-Face needs another mobster to go up against. and Penguin's one character that can work best in a crowd
I agree! That would rock!
Mr. Socko
10-04-2007, 09:14 PM
:huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:
I'll bet my bank accounts it will be Joker (minor role), Two Face and Catwoman.
Catwoman isn't for sure I'd say. Still just a rumor.
DA Dent
10-06-2007, 09:18 PM
Man-Bat or Killer Croc would be interesting under Nolan’s style, although I’m not sure if they could be pulled off right. If they're ever done, they should be a supporting villain under a bigger name.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
10-07-2007, 12:53 AM
Bane? Interesting choice.
Yea, I think he could fit into nolans batman quite well if done right, he was in
batman and robin, but he was like a pet dog or something.
http://www.fxsupply.com/features/penikas/images/B-4.JPEG
http://www.toastedpixel.com/comic/bane.jpg
Mr. Socko
10-07-2007, 11:37 AM
I don't want Bane right now. Maybe years from now. In like a 5th film or so.
I think Black Mask could play a great supporting villain.
The thing is, a new Batman movie is only released every 3 years. It's for that reason why I don't think WB would want to spend that much time to show off a smaller villain like the Mad Hatter, Ventriloquist, or Man-Bat. I doubt we'd ever see them in a movie.
That'ssuper!
10-11-2007, 11:52 PM
Killer Croc indeed.
http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/28ae7d4d6f.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)
TheScarecrow
10-12-2007, 03:27 AM
Batman 3:
Joker, Two-Face, Catwoman.
Batman 4:
Catwoman, The Riddler, Hush.
Batman 5:
Penguin, Rupert Thorne, Bane. Use them in a "Mystery of the Batwoman" with The Huntress playing the role of Batwoman (minus the twist).
Batman 6:
Mad Hatter, Poison Ivy, Black Mask.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
10-12-2007, 05:48 AM
I don't want Bane right now. Maybe years from now. In like a 5th film or so.
I think Black Mask could play a great supporting villain.
The thing is, a new Batman movie is only released every 3 years. It's for that reason why I don't think WB would want to spend that much time to show off a smaller villain like the Mad Hatter, Ventriloquist, or Man-Bat. I doubt we'd ever see them in a movie.
Blackmask is a pretty underrated character outside the comics it seems, bane has been on screen, but it was really nothing like him, if you read the comics he's sort of like an anti-batman, he has brains as well as brawn.
It would be difficult to picture the mad hatter and the Ventriloquist in Nolans batman, tbh, never much of a fan of them, would take a shot in the dark and guess either catwoman or the riddler will appear in the third movie.
Iceburgeruk
10-16-2007, 09:52 AM
The best plan seems to be two villains. Main threat, poster boy. Secondary threat, less known.
For example Batman Begins and Drak Knight have scarecrow as the secondary villain and Ra`s/Joker as the main villains (Ra`s isn`t on the posters but it was primarily just batman in the advertising anyway).
So that seems like a good way to go. Have a less well known perhaps more gimmicky character with each big villain.
I`d include bane as a main villain though. Sure he was rubbish in batamn and robin but if we go comic storyline wise he has to be the main villain in his film. I mean seriously it would be the biggest batman film plot twist ever...End fight and Bane breaks wayne`s spine! Leaving him to recover in the next film.
az824
10-16-2007, 05:46 PM
i really want a poison ivy but i dont want movies to get too crowded, so i want her in a 4th film with black mask or riddler
TBadora
10-20-2007, 12:58 PM
Which Batman willain would you like to see, who hasn't been done yet?
Of that list...Croc or Hatter.
CFE
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
10-20-2007, 01:09 PM
bane
TBadora
10-20-2007, 01:11 PM
bane
He would definitly be my second choice. After clayface.
Grinder
10-20-2007, 01:12 PM
Bane in combination with Clayface or The Mad Hatter
Devan
10-20-2007, 01:14 PM
Crazy Quilt.
Captain Clown
10-20-2007, 01:15 PM
I think The Mad Hatter could work very well, have him kidnap a bunch of girls because he's looking for his "Alice."
I think that might fit into Nolan's world.
TBadora
10-20-2007, 01:16 PM
I think Bane deserves to be done by himself. He is a classic bad-a$$ villain. He broke Batman's back for Pete's sake. Putting him in a movie with anyone else would weaken the character. Look at what happened to "Batman and Robin".
TBadora
10-20-2007, 01:18 PM
I chose clayface because there he has alot of potential, story-wise. I think he has far more depth than any other character. In fact, I think if they use a strong acter for the role, we may see a few oscars being handed out.
I'd be worried about Clayface turning out too much like Sandman though.
Eggyman
10-20-2007, 01:36 PM
The Mad Hatter: Starting tonight, toupees will die. I'm a man with a hat.
Riddler and the Mad Hatter against Batman (but not necessarily 'together') would be a real mind-fuack w/ lots of potential for some crazy mystery puzzles scenarios, really making Bats step up his detective skills :up: :up:
Nepenthes
10-20-2007, 01:46 PM
Croc, Freeze, Ivy and Crazy Quilt.
^Agreed. Riddler's challenges to Batman in "Batman Forever" weren't nearly deep or cryptic enough.
If Nolan tackled Riddler, his questions and puzzles would have to truly be something so incredibly difficult that even Batman would have, not a lot of trouble, but somemore difficultly in figuring them out.
And they need to make sense, BC I still can't quite figure out just how the hell Bruce knew the numbers in the "BF" Riddles pertained to the alphabet. He had to've been grabbing at straws
CFE
TBadora
10-20-2007, 02:05 PM
^Agreed. Riddler's challenges to Batman in "Batman Forever" weren't nearly deep or cryptic enough.
If Nolan tackled Riddler, his questions and puzzles would have to truly be something so incredibly difficult that even Batman would have, not a lot of trouble, but somemore difficultly in figuring them out.
And they need to make sense, BC I still can't quite figure out just how the hell Bruce knew the numbers in the "BF" Riddles pertained to the alphabet. He had to've been grabbing at straws
CFE
You think that was bad; you should see some of the stuff from the old TV show.
hegele
10-20-2007, 02:07 PM
i'm partial to the mad hatter.
jimmy
10-20-2007, 02:08 PM
Egghead
Metal Head
Grundy
Crazy Quilt
Tally Man
Black Mask
Abittator
t1box135
10-20-2007, 02:09 PM
where's calendar man? he is SO awesome.
fu manchu
10-20-2007, 02:13 PM
Voted for the Mad Hatter, since he would best fit in with Batman/Nolan movies, IMO. I think he would have the most interesting story from the list. second choice would been Bane.
I'd be worried about Clayface turning out too much like Sandman though.
unfortunately, yeah, he would look like Sandman. I also think Killer Croc would be the same as The Lizard, on which I been anticipated for the Spiderman movies.
Part of me, would like to see The Ventriloquist on screen and to see if Nolan can make him not look like a lame villain with a puppet.
Anjow1060
10-20-2007, 02:15 PM
Bane
Mr. Freeze
- Jow
The Shredder
10-20-2007, 02:18 PM
Out of the list ...
Clayface, then Bane.
Eggyman
10-20-2007, 02:34 PM
Egghead
Metal Head
Grundy
Crazy Quilt
Tally Man
Black Mask
Abittator
Why thank you :)
saint sinner x
10-20-2007, 02:39 PM
I really want to see clayface Nolanized. However, bane could work as well, just make bane as a really skilledfull, intellegent bodyguard to one of the mobsters who usings strength enhancing drugs. Clayface would be highly trickier to do in Nolans realistic world.
Kargo Warrior
10-20-2007, 02:40 PM
From the list Bane or The Mad Hatter...if all villains are in question,The Ridddler no doubt for me.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
10-20-2007, 02:43 PM
No clock king fans?
saint sinner x
10-20-2007, 02:46 PM
No clock king fans?
Sorry kez, but clock king is such a cornie villain.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
10-20-2007, 02:55 PM
lol yea.
He's so bad even Warner bros would have trouble screwing him up.
TBadora
10-20-2007, 03:00 PM
Clock King was great. He was certainly better than some other ones out there. I enjoyed him the TAS show.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
10-20-2007, 03:04 PM
Clock King was great. He was certainly better than some other ones out there. I enjoyed him the TAS show.
He seemed to fit in well with TAS style, the way he was written in didn't seem to shabby either. In a live action movie, it's debatable if he would work well.
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7999/batmananimclockkingvk7.jpg
Izzy_23
10-20-2007, 03:05 PM
The Mad Hatter.
But if we had any choice I'd pick Ivy, simply for her ties with Harvey. Although clearly that wouldn't work though.
Clock King was great. He was certainly better than some other ones out there. I enjoyed him the TAS show.
If you enjoyed him so much, why doesn't he have any votes? :oldrazz:
Batman>all
10-20-2007, 03:06 PM
BLack Mask
The clock king ep was what got me into batman when I was a kid ('92?). So it'd be cool to see him in a movie, even if just for memory's sake. But it'd be nice to see some villians big and small from the eps when we were all kids.
jimmy
10-20-2007, 03:16 PM
Why thank you :)
Ha, yes!
You think that was bad; you should see some of the stuff from the old TV show.
Oh I know, believe me...
But what works for a TV show in 1966 doesn't necessarily translate the same way to a 1995 big budget summer blockbuster film.
Or at least, in most cases, it shouldn't...:o
:oldrazz:
CFE
Izzy_23
10-20-2007, 03:36 PM
Oh I know, believe me...
But what works for a TV show in 1966 doesn't necessarily translate the same way to a 1995 big budget summer blockbuster film.
Or at least, in most cases, it shouldn't...:o
:oldrazz:
CFE
Oh, no we need Heath, to turn the town's water in jellow.
That's the twist Nolan, will have for you.
He'll slowly eliminate the diabetics with the high sugar blood levels! :woot:
TBadora
10-20-2007, 03:59 PM
If you enjoyed him so much, why doesn't he have any votes? :oldrazz:
Just because I enjoyed him in TAS doesn't mean he will fit well in a movie. And for the record, I have placed my favourites on the poll list. He was one of them.
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
10-20-2007, 04:01 PM
Why no blackmask?
Oh, no we need Heath, to turn the town's water in jellow.
That's the twist Nolan, will have for you.
He'll slowly eliminate the diabetics with the high sugar blood levels! :woot:
But then Joker would have a new enemy.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b16/BlackGreyWhite/Pictures/dWilfordBrimley.jpg?t=1192914304
:woot:
TBadora
10-20-2007, 04:07 PM
Why no blackmask?
I felt his story would be too similar to Carmine Falcone.
TBadora
10-20-2007, 04:07 PM
But then Joker would have a new enemy.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b16/BlackGreyWhite/Pictures/dWilfordBrimley.jpg?t=1192914304
:woot:
LMAO
Two-Face
10-20-2007, 04:09 PM
I voted for Bane, he was terribly handled in Batman & Robin. I don't care for others if they make the their debut or not.
Chucktallica101
10-20-2007, 04:09 PM
I would love to see Bane redone. I think that Nolan and Co. could really make something interesting with him as the muscle of some mob...
TBadora
10-20-2007, 04:12 PM
I would love to see Bane redone. I think that Nolan and Co. could really make something interesting with him as the muscle of some mob...
I agree. I think bane could really impress on the big screen. Best of all he's not to difficult to do.
Stotch
10-20-2007, 04:12 PM
Mr. Freeze (redone). I refuse to choose anyone else....besides clayface.
Mr. Wooden Alligator
10-20-2007, 04:15 PM
Killer Croc
I'd like to see him being some muscle for Two-Face like Grundy was in TLH/DV. An urban legend that Dent meets after fleeing the hospital.
---Morzan
TBadora
10-20-2007, 04:19 PM
Killer Croc
I'd like to see him being some muscle for Two-Face like Grundy was in TLH/DV. An urban legend that Dent meets after fleeing the hospital.
---Morzan
A little known fact is that Tim Burton wanted to introduce Killer Croc to the big screen in Batman Returns. Later, when the idea was scratched, he decided to leave a little tease in the film, which was in the begining where the little boy is selling newspapers about a croc sighting in the sewers. Alfred is then approached by the boy.
Careful on the useage of Bane as mob muscle...
People seem to forget that Bane as featured in the comics wasn't initially hired muscle.
He was a master strategist who used the hard edged influence of being born into a maximum security prison to strengthen both his body and mind.
He isn't some dribbling brute. This guy's a methodical mastermind who plotted and planned out the long term and eventual demise of Batman, to which in a few ways he succeeded by crippling him.
If Bane's redone in the Nolan universe, he needs to be his own man. Not a hired thug strong arming for the mob, and most certainly not as a single-word spewing moron acting on the whims of Poison Ivy (no offense to Jeep, god rest his soul)
CFE
Why Are You Crouching Spock?
10-20-2007, 04:29 PM
Careful on the useage of Bane as mob muscle...
People seem to forget that Bane as featured in the comics wasn't initially hired muscle.
He was a master strategist who used the hard edged influence of being born into a maximum security prison to strengthen both his body and mind.
He isn't some dribbling brute. This guy's a methodical mastermind who plotted and planned out the long term and eventual demise of Batman, to which in a few ways he succeeded by crippling him.
Exactly, more than a match intellectually for batman, not a knuckle dragging caveman, what the hell was that thing in batman and robin?
I thought Joel was suppose to be a fan, what comic is he reading?
Exactly. The whole deal with him and Ivy could've ruined his image. He was like a whipped puppy in that movie. Bad deal.
Killing Joke926
10-20-2007, 04:30 PM
Black Mask and Bane for me. I know Karl Urban has been rumored for the role of a possible Black Mask, but I think he should be played by Richard Roxburgh. As for Bane, I really have no idea where to start; either he should be a wrestler or he should be CGI.
TBadora
10-20-2007, 04:33 PM
Careful on the useage of Bane as mob muscle...
People seem to forget that Bane as featured in the comics wasn't initially hired muscle.
He was a master strategist who used the hard edged influence of being born into a maximum security prison to strengthen both his body and mind.
He isn't some dribbling brute. This guy's a methodical mastermind who plotted and planned out the long term and eventual demise of Batman, to which in a few ways he succeeded by crippling him.
If Bane's redone in the Nolan universe, he needs to be his own man. Not a hired thug strong arming for the mob, and most certainly not as a single-word spewing moron acting on the whims of Poison Ivy (no offense to Jeep, god rest his soul)
CFE
Yeah, I think Bane should be featured in his own film. And not as some hired musclebound jerk, with no brains. Most importantly, Bane needs to be depicted as he was originally in the comics. He was, as you said, a brilliant strategist who had succeeded, on several occcasions, in outsmarting Batman himself.
Egghead and King Tut!
:woot:
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