The Official Erica Durance Thread

[The Caped Knight]

Erica Durance is the CW Star of the week at the cw source.

Check it out

CLICK HERE (http://blogs.trb.com/network/cwsource/2006/10/the_cw_star_of_the_week_erica.html)

[zanos]

I heard and saw the interview and I didn't think there was anything wrong with Howard's questions or even the amount of questions he asked. I don't understand why she left crying especially since she didn't appear upset at all during the interview and after the interview during commercials Howard, Robin and Erica were laughing and joking around about the naked parties. Then everyone hugged each other goodbye and that was it. It was all very friendly. I don't think she was upset with Howard. I think Erica is deeply troubled by how she may be perceived because there was so much focus on the nude parties thing and she doesn't want this to be some huge story out there. That's all. End of story.

[Jim Hall]

Howard isnt the "must do" for people trying to promote things anymore since he only has about 200k listeners on Sirius as opposed to the few million he had on terrestial radio. Sirius is losing a bundle on his contract since his fans didnt come over in droves like they wxpected them to.


I have been a long time reader of these boards, but have never posted. I had to register and post because I was blown away by the complete INACCURACY of the statement above.

Love him or hate him, the subscribers of Sirius satellite radio went from 300,000 listeners to 5.5 MILLION since Howard Stern made the announcement he was moving to Sirius. A conservative estimate attributes 4 million of those subscribers as Stern listeners.

Industry experts have stated time and time again that Stern's 5 year contract has already paid for itself, and his first year isn't even up yet!

[Antonello Blueberry]

http://www.egotastic.com/media/pictures/0610/erica-durance-butterfly-effect-35.jpg
More here:
http://www.egotastic.com/entertainment/celebrities/erica-durance/erica-durance-is-naked-and-crying-001758

[blksuperman2]

youre talking to the same sycophant who posted everyone's pictures here into an immature degrading "movie." Do you really have to ask?

Wow I'm slow. Now I've put all the pieces together.:cmad: :csad:

[Nautica7mk]

The Butterfly Effect 2 is out. Has anyone seen it? Bought it Tuesday. Durance was pretty decent in it, but I wished she had a bigger part considering the lead guy was going through all this time-hopping for her.

[bsquad]

The only thing Clark is supposed to be not immune to is Kryptonite (which is harmless on Krypton).



kryptonite are pieces of krypton that went radioactive after it blew up. it would hurt a kryptonian either way because it is now radioactive

[Lunar_Wolf]

Anyone here good with computers because for no reason my sound is gone from my computer, does anyone know how I could fixed this?

[avidreader]

Anyone here good with computers because for no reason my sound is gone from my computer, does anyone know how I could fixed this?

Speakers? Sound Card?

[Kaboom]

Anyone here good with computers because for no reason my sound is gone from my computer, does anyone know how I could fixed this?
do you realize that makes no sense? obviously the sound is gone because of a reason, you just dont know what it is. To the extent you're asking for help to address the issue is itself evidence that theres a reason theyre not working.

[AgentPat]

do you realize that makes no sense? obviously the sound is gone because of a reason, you just dont know what it is. To the extent you're asking for help to address the issue is itself evidence that theres a reason theyre not working.
http://meuse.com/john/aflack.jpg



;)

[Venomfan]

what a costume.....oliver queens is cool to

[The Caped Knight]

I loved her Maid Marian costume in "Wither" .

[RakuMon]

You should probably check your PM

[Brainiac 8]

Oh, gotcha...

I forgot who I was talking to. Figures.

Well, my theory was correct then.

Too bad I didn't look here sooner, or I wouldn't have still been wondering.:o :cmad:

[The Caped Knight]

You should probably check your PM

Wow....:wow: :hyper: :wow: that's .........:woot: ....Thank you .

[MJZ]

The Butterfly Effect 2 is out. Has anyone seen it? Bought it Tuesday. Durance was pretty decent in it, but I wished she had a bigger part considering the lead guy was going through all this time-hopping for her.

does she get nekkid

[user123456789]

does she get nekkid
probably not :(

[MJZ]

The prospect looked good from those caps that were posted awhile ago...

[LostSon88]

Doubt it, especially now that she's more established.

[MJZ]

Oh well was worth a shot.

[Antonello Blueberry]

does she get nekkid
http://www.egotastic.com/entertainme...-crying-001758 (http://www.egotastic.com/entertainment/celebrities/erica-durance/erica-durance-is-naked-and-crying-001758)

[LostSon88]

Well based on those caps....technically she gets nekkid. But she doesn't show nothin! What a tease she is... :cwink: :oldrazz:

[Venomfan]

no maid marian pics yet?

[The Caped Knight]

no maid marian pics yet?

http://smallville.starpoints.net/index.php?cat=342

[The Incredible Hulk]

I have been a long time reader of these boards, but have never posted. I had to register and post because I was blown away by the complete INACCURACY of the statement above.

Love him or hate him, the subscribers of Sirius satellite radio went from 300,000 listeners to 5.5 MILLION since Howard Stern made the announcement he was moving to Sirius. A conservative estimate attributes 4 million of those subscribers as Stern listeners.

Industry experts have stated time and time again that Stern's 5 year contract has already paid for itself, and his first year isn't even up yet!

OK Mr. Bold for Emphasis, I'd love to see the data that backs that up and hopefully it's not from a Stern site. Sirius had 3.3 million subscribers before Stern got there and allegedley he added just over a million new subscriptions, a lot of which werent retained. I've seen the data the Sirius shareholders get and it's not pretty.

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/SVS6001.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/1_SVS6001.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/1_SVS6008.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/1_SVS6010.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/1_SVS6011.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/1_SVS6012.jpg

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/602Smallville001.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/602Smallville003.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/602Smallville004.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/602Smallville006.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/602Smallville009.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/602Smallville010.jpg

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/603Smallville001.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/603Smallville002.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/603Smallville003.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/603Smallville005.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/603Smallville006.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/603Smallville008.jpg
http://www.erica-durance.org/livejournal/Smallville_-_Season_6_Icons_by_Janine/603Smallville011.jpg

from http://www.erica-durance.org

[NHawk19]

OK Mr. Bold for Emphasis, I'd love to see the data that backs that up and hopefully it's not from a Stern site. Sirius had 3.3 million subscribers before Stern got there and allegedley he added just over a million new subscriptions, a lot of which werent retained. I've seen the data the Sirius shareholders get and it's not pretty..

Stern really isnt any better on satelite. The only real difference is the amount of swear words, and it seems as you said before he cant get the celebs the way he used to.

I chose Sirius because of the NFL, stern was just an added bonus until the endless F this F that made me feel like my brain was going numb.

[The Caped Knight]

http://smallville.fan-sites.org/gallery/index.php?cat=24

[The Caped Knight]

Erica did a fantastic job protraying The sassy, sexy, smart, and tough hard as nails Ace Reporter : LOIS LANE !! in tonight's episode "Arrow" .

I can't wait to see more

Erica proved she can be more than just an eye candy Lois Lane. But that she can be The Iconic Ace Reporter from the superman mythology .
:super:

[zanos]

OK Mr. Bold for Emphasis, I'd love to see the data that backs that up and hopefully it's not from a Stern site. Sirius had 3.3 million subscribers before Stern got there and allegedley he added just over a million new subscriptions, a lot of which werent retained. I've seen the data the Sirius shareholders get and it's not pretty.

Where do you get all your misinformation from? Go read any article online to get the real info.

[avidreader]

Where do you get all your misinformation from? Go read any article online to get the real info.

I'm guessing you dont know what Hulk does for a living? :whatever:

[Kaboom]

I'm guessing you dont know what Hulk does for a living? :whatever:

oooh ooooh pick me , I know the answer i know the answer!

[avidreader]

oooh ooooh pick me , I know the answer i know the answer!

Donkey!

[Kaboom]

Shrek 2 day of the donkey

[avidreader]

Shrek 2 day of the donkey

You kind of remind me of Donkey. And I say that with great affection. :cwink:

[Kaboom]

You kind of remind me of Donkey. And I say that with great affection. :cwink:
look at me, iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii'm a staaaaaaaaaaaaallion.

[jr24tw]

Arrow Still.

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/3121/arrow12e4sz4.th.jpg (http://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arrow12e4sz4.jpg)

[AgentPat]

Where do you get all your misinformation from?Did you miss the part where he said, "I've seen the data the Sirius shareholders get?"

Go read any article online to get the real info.Yeah, 'cause on-line articles print "real" P&L privied information for all to see.

Dude, maybe you should just stick to comic books? :whatever:

[AgentPat]

Speaking of on-line articles, here's an AWESOME interview with Erica Durance. My goodness, I hope EVERYBODY reads this...


Sious City Journal (on-line edition)
10/21/06

The Lane least traveled
By Bruce R. Miller Journal staff writer

LOS ANGELES - So what if someone else played Lois Lane in the latest Superman movie.

"We all know where she ends up," says "Smallville's" Lois, Erica Durance. "The beginning -- that's what's interesting."

Cast as Lois in the TV series -- which chronicles those early years -- Durance says she's able to learn new things about the character -- things other actresses haven't been able to mine.

Lois is comfortable around men, Durance says, because she grew up on a military base. "So when she sees Clark, this good-looking guy, she's not all that swoony. Just because everybody else thinks he's the cat's meow, she doesn't."

The desire to become a reporter? "She has a very curious mind. She likes to get to the heart of every story. She'll go into a room, assess each person to get what she needs out of them without revealing too much about herself. It's the same way with her relationships."

Playing that "discovery" period is easier than stepping into the role Kate Bosworth inherited for "Superman Returns," Durance says. "Being able to play the youth of it gives me the ability to make mistakes. It was very courageous of (Bosworth) to fill a role like that...and she was good at it."

But Bosworth wasn't walking in Durance's shoes.

A native of Canada (where the show is shot), Durance has been in several sci-fi series -- "Andromeda," "Stargate SG-1" and "Tru Calling" among them -- largely because they're filmed close to home. "I've always liked sci-fi," she says. "It's part of my growing up experience and there's a certain kind of nice security."

Also in "Butterfly Effect 2," she's keen on the genre because it delivers morals in an entertaining fashion. "Can we play God if we have choices?" she asks. "Everybody assumes if they had the chance they'd go back and change things for the better."

Durance, however, is quite happy with the way her life has transpired.

Growing up, "I had an older brother who was in charge of the TV. So we watched what he wanted to watch." His choice: Superhero and sci-fi shows. "I grew to love them as well." Lois Lane? "She wasn't like other women on TV. She was sassy and independent. She relied on herself to get out of situations. She didn't have a super power. But she was smart."

When Durance was cast in "Smallville," "I only had two days before we started. I couldn't do hours and hours of research. I relied on the creative team and their collective criticism to be able to play a younger Lois."

In time, she says, she was able to find the right approach.

Now, the 28-year-old is eager to explore the "reporter" phase of Lois' life. "I'm definitely different from her, but I do go into an audition and try to figure things out, determine who it is I'm dealing with. I watch reporters, too, and see how they operate."

Old movies -- like "Bringing Up Baby" -- have helped her tap into that independent spirit.

The end of the series, she says, will likely involve romance between Clark Kent and Lois Lane. "I'm not interested in that. I like watching how they dance around each other, bait each other and not quite fall into the sentimental love story. It's interesting to see them fight."

The more screen time she gets, the more Durance gets recognized -- as Lois. Fans will identify her as such in public and they'll ask her questions about "Smallville."

For the most part, though, people "think I'm their cousin. They're not quite sure where they've seen me. They just recognize me from something."

http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2006/10/20/entertainment/local/63a700949b444d2d8625720c0070f691.txt

Erica GETS it! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wahoo.gif

[Brainiac 8]

I'm guessing you dont know what Hulk does for a living? :whatever:


Obviously not or her wouldn't be saying such drivel.:whatever:

[Kaboom]

a hot girl that likes sci-fi? she is toooooo perfect

[triplet]

a hot girl that likes sci-fi? she is toooooo perfect

She's a geek's walking wet dream, ain't she?

:D

;)

[The Caped Knight]

Speaking of on-line articles, here's an AWESOME interview with Erica Durance. My goodness, I hope EVERYBODY reads this...


Sious City Journal (on-line edition)
10/21/06

The Lane least traveled
By Bruce R. Miller Journal staff writer

LOS ANGELES - So what if someone else played Lois Lane in the latest Superman movie.

"We all know where she ends up," says "Smallville's" Lois, Erica Durance. "The beginning -- that's what's interesting."

Cast as Lois in the TV series -- which chronicles those early years -- Durance says she's able to learn new things about the character -- things other actresses haven't been able to mine.

Lois is comfortable around men, Durance says, because she grew up on a military base. "So when she sees Clark, this good-looking guy, she's not all that swoony. Just because everybody else thinks he's the cat's meow, she doesn't."

The desire to become a reporter? "She has a very curious mind. She likes to get to the heart of every story. She'll go into a room, assess each person to get what she needs out of them without revealing too much about herself. It's the same way with her relationships."

Playing that "discovery" period is easier than stepping into the role Kate Bosworth inherited for "Superman Returns," Durance says. "Being able to play the youth of it gives me the ability to make mistakes. It was very courageous of (Bosworth) to fill a role like that...and she was good at it."

But Bosworth wasn't walking in Durance's shoes.

A native of Canada (where the show is shot), Durance has been in several sci-fi series -- "Andromeda," "Stargate SG-1" and "Tru Calling" among them -- largely because they're filmed close to home. "I've always liked sci-fi," she says. "It's part of my growing up experience and there's a certain kind of nice security."

Also in "Butterfly Effect 2," she's keen on the genre because it delivers morals in an entertaining fashion. "Can we play God if we have choices?" she asks. "Everybody assumes if they had the chance they'd go back and change things for the better."

Durance, however, is quite happy with the way her life has transpired.

Growing up, "I had an older brother who was in charge of the TV. So we watched what he wanted to watch." His choice: Superhero and sci-fi shows. "I grew to love them as well." Lois Lane? "She wasn't like other women on TV. She was sassy and independent. She relied on herself to get out of situations. She didn't have a super power. But she was smart."

When Durance was cast in "Smallville," "I only had two days before we started. I couldn't do hours and hours of research. I relied on the creative team and their collective criticism to be able to play a younger Lois."

In time, she says, she was able to find the right approach.

Now, the 28-year-old is eager to explore the "reporter" phase of Lois' life. "I'm definitely different from her, but I do go into an audition and try to figure things out, determine who it is I'm dealing with. I watch reporters, too, and see how they operate."

Old movies -- like "Bringing Up Baby" -- have helped her tap into that independent spirit.

The end of the series, she says, will likely involve romance between Clark Kent and Lois Lane. "I'm not interested in that. I like watching how they dance around each other, bait each other and not quite fall into the sentimental love story. It's interesting to see them fight."

The more screen time she gets, the more Durance gets recognized -- as Lois. Fans will identify her as such in public and they'll ask her questions about "Smallville."

For the most part, though, people "think I'm their cousin. They're not quite sure where they've seen me. They just recognize me from something."

http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2006/10/20/entertainment/local/63a700949b444d2d8625720c0070f691.txt

Erica GETS it! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wahoo.gif


BINGO, DING DONG WE'VE GOT A WINNER !!!!!!! :woot: :hyper: :woot:

[heliorei]

Speaking of on-line articles, here's an AWESOME interview with Erica Durance. My goodness, I hope EVERYBODY reads this...


Sious City Journal (on-line edition)
10/21/06

The Lane least traveled
By Bruce R. Miller Journal staff writer

LOS ANGELES - So what if someone else played Lois Lane in the latest Superman movie.

"We all know where she ends up," says "Smallville's" Lois, Erica Durance. "The beginning -- that's what's interesting."

Cast as Lois in the TV series -- which chronicles those early years -- Durance says she's able to learn new things about the character -- things other actresses haven't been able to mine.

Lois is comfortable around men, Durance says, because she grew up on a military base. "So when she sees Clark, this good-looking guy, she's not all that swoony. Just because everybody else thinks he's the cat's meow, she doesn't."

The desire to become a reporter? "She has a very curious mind. She likes to get to the heart of every story. She'll go into a room, assess each person to get what she needs out of them without revealing too much about herself. It's the same way with her relationships."

Playing that "discovery" period is easier than stepping into the role Kate Bosworth inherited for "Superman Returns," Durance says. "Being able to play the youth of it gives me the ability to make mistakes. It was very courageous of (Bosworth) to fill a role like that...and she was good at it."

But Bosworth wasn't walking in Durance's shoes.

A native of Canada (where the show is shot), Durance has been in several sci-fi series -- "Andromeda," "Stargate SG-1" and "Tru Calling" among them -- largely because they're filmed close to home. "I've always liked sci-fi," she says. "It's part of my growing up experience and there's a certain kind of nice security."

Also in "Butterfly Effect 2," she's keen on the genre because it delivers morals in an entertaining fashion. "Can we play God if we have choices?" she asks. "Everybody assumes if they had the chance they'd go back and change things for the better."

Durance, however, is quite happy with the way her life has transpired.

Growing up, "I had an older brother who was in charge of the TV. So we watched what he wanted to watch." His choice: Superhero and sci-fi shows. "I grew to love them as well." Lois Lane? "She wasn't like other women on TV. She was sassy and independent. She relied on herself to get out of situations. She didn't have a super power. But she was smart."

When Durance was cast in "Smallville," "I only had two days before we started. I couldn't do hours and hours of research. I relied on the creative team and their collective criticism to be able to play a younger Lois."

In time, she says, she was able to find the right approach.

Now, the 28-year-old is eager to explore the "reporter" phase of Lois' life. "I'm definitely different from her, but I do go into an audition and try to figure things out, determine who it is I'm dealing with. I watch reporters, too, and see how they operate."

Old movies -- like "Bringing Up Baby" -- have helped her tap into that independent spirit.

The end of the series, she says, will likely involve romance between Clark Kent and Lois Lane. "I'm not interested in that. I like watching how they dance around each other, bait each other and not quite fall into the sentimental love story. It's interesting to see them fight."

The more screen time she gets, the more Durance gets recognized -- as Lois. Fans will identify her as such in public and they'll ask her questions about "Smallville."

For the most part, though, people "think I'm their cousin. They're not quite sure where they've seen me. They just recognize me from something."

http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2006/10/20/entertainment/local/63a700949b444d2d8625720c0070f691.txt

Erica GETS it! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wahoo.gif



Really good interview: Erica is perfect for the job. :up:

[Nautica7mk]

I'll be going to Wizard World Texas next month. Hopefully, there will be some goodies to report back on. *crosses fingers*

[thebigtree95]

I'm going to WWT too, but I'll be at the Ed Brubaker panel. :D

Maybe I can snag a photo of Erica if it isn't too crazy.

[Legend Killer]

Erica in Self Magazine:

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5014/06585ericaself01122397lojw6.th.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06585ericaself01122397lojw6.jpg) http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/929/06591ericaself02122481logv0.th.jpg (http://img287.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06591ericaself02122481logv0.jpg) http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/7257/06596ericaself03122513loot4.th.jpg (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06596ericaself03122513loot4.jpg) http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/2180/06601ericaself04122550lobk3.th.jpg (http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06601ericaself04122550lobk3.jpg) http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/5458/06607ericaself05122600loku7.th.jpg (http://img270.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06607ericaself05122600loku7.jpg) http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1180/06612ericaself06122316lowa4.th.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06612ericaself06122316lowa4.jpg)

Insanely Hot as usual....:)

[batnkevlar]

Holy ****...

I'd tone her abs...

[MJZ]

Yeah I'd love to bench press her over my headboard.

[The Caped Knight]

Erica in Self Magazine:

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5014/06585ericaself01122397lojw6.th.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06585ericaself01122397lojw6.jpg) http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2853/06591ericaself02122481loqt3.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06591ericaself02122481loqt3.jpg) http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/7257/06596ericaself03122513loot4.th.jpg (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06596ericaself03122513loot4.jpg) http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6656/06601ericaself04122550lojg8.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06601ericaself04122550lojg8.jpg) http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4810/06607ericaself05122600lodx1.th.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06607ericaself05122600lodx1.jpg) http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5665/06612ericaself06122316loss9.th.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06612ericaself06122316loss9.jpg)

Insanely Hot as usual....

[Super hot Lois Lane] SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSMOKIN! :wow:

[Legend Killer]

Here's the video. ;)

http://www.self.com/fitness/workouts/video/2006/10/23/1024tvworkout_video

[The Caped Knight]

Here's the video. ;)

http://www.self.com/fitness/workouts/video/2006/10/23/1024tvworkout_video

:wow: :hyper: :wow: :bomb: She's Incredible

Thanks for the video . [This Lois Lane not only looks the part and acts the part, but she's also knows how to workout and do it with style .] :super: :heart:

[AgentPat]

^ "Probationary Ban?" HUH?

What happened here? Looks pretty tame to me??? :huh:

[bad3appels]

uhhh,she was wearing a pant in that video LOL
but she looks great :)

[Serene]

^ "Probationary Ban?" HUH?

What happened here? Looks pretty tame to me??? :huh:
I doubt it's related to that video.. There's nothing inapproprate about it at all. Maybe he crossed the line in another forum? *shrug*

[AgentPat]

I doubt it's related to that video.. There's nothing inapproprate about it at all. Maybe he crossed the line in another forum? *shrug*Gosh, I hope so. I wear more revealing clothing to work sometimes LOL. :D

[Venomfan]

yah its not becuz of the video, he wasnt even the one who posted it

[thebigtree95]

If I had to guess why he is on a mini vacation, it is because in the Talon thread he posted about a certain movie crossing the $200 million mark and it had a bit of "I told you so...take that negativos" overtone to it.


:dew: Penguins are pretty.


:woot:

[COMPO]

Holy ****...

I'd tone her abs...

very original.

[Brainiac 8]

Gosh, I hope so. I wear more revealing clothing to work sometimes LOL. :D


You know, lets discuss this a little more. :O :cwink:

[NHawk19]

Nice vid

[Kaboom]

while k8 and the majority disagree over practically everything, hes a regular, i value his opinion, and theres nothing wrong with a bit of dissent. i hope he comes back soon.

[Brainiac 8]

I don't mind Kal at all, his suedo worship of Batman is quite humerous at times. He's probably the only one that doesn't make me cringe that posts about him.

OMG BATMAN IS TEH RAWKS!:batty: :woot:

[zanos]

Did you miss the part where he said, "I've seen the data the Sirius shareholders get?"


Uh what "Incredible Hulk" is leaving out is that it only grew to 3 million after Sirius announced Stern would be coming over. Before that they only had roughly 600,00 subscribers. Sirius has recently surpassed 5 million subscribers in the 10 months since Stern arrived. This is what you get from listening to some random person on a forum.


Yeah, 'cause on-line articles print "real" P&L privied information for all to see.

Dude, maybe you should just stick to comic books? :whatever:

I think I'll get my news from the times, usatoday and other the legitimate news agencies rather than some anonymous person on a message board.

[COMPO]

Yeah I'd love to bench press her over my headboard.

Now that's original. Must of took you ages to think that one up.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Uh what "Incredible Hulk" is leaving out is that it only grew to 3 million after Sirius announced Stern would be coming over. Before that they only had roughly 600,00 subscribers. Sirius has recently surpassed 5 million subscribers in the 10 months since Stern arrived. This is what you get from listening to some random person on a forum.


yes he's doing so well that's why they're giving the show away for free on the internet the next 2 days in a desperate attempt to attract more subscribers. (which BTW his show's gotten even worse in the past 10 months, the same old routine just now with foul language and ads for online porn.)

You can believe all the PR pieces you want that get printed in major newspapers, but "The Street" has a very different picture of Sirius at the moment.

[Kaboom]

hulk, you dont need to defend yourself we know whos with it and who isnt.

[MJZ]

Now that's original. Must of took you ages to think that one up.

Blow it out your ass pal.

[Brainiac 8]

http://www.go.dlr.de/wt/dv/ig/icons/funet/viz2.gif

Like this MJZ.

Don't let him get to you. Your art is great.:word:

[MJZ]

http://www.go.dlr.de/wt/dv/ig/icons/funet/viz2.gif

Like this MJZ.

Don't let him get to you. Your art is great.:word:

Heh thanks.

[Squatlow]

yes he's doing so well that's why they're giving the show away for free on the internet the next 2 days in a desperate attempt to attract more subscribers. (which BTW his show's gotten even worse in the past 10 months, the same old routine just now with foul language and ads for online porn.)

You can believe all the PR pieces you want that get printed in major newspapers, but "The Street" has a very different picture of Sirius at the moment.

Not that I have inside knowledge (I don't), but I suspect Sirius properties (read Stern and high vis performers) will be acquired by XM (I'm a subscriber) in some type of so-called merger with XM as the surviving entity in the 1-3 year time frame. I like XM, but its properties are currently limited. Most well known is the just added Oprah channels. Popular, but not a big draw for male listeners. Merger with Sirius (meaning buy out prior to Sirius bankruptcy) would add NFL to already strong sports lineup including current MLB, NASCAR, PGA, ESPN, etc would solidify its position. And -just my opinion here- there is only room for one company at the moment given the fact that the receivers are either XM or Sirius. Not like terrestrial radio where you can listen to anyone you want (AM, FM). Most won't spend bucks to have both, and I don't think Sirius will be the surviving entity.

Ok, back to the ED thread...sorry 'bout that Erica. Won't happen again.:woot:

[zanos]

yes he's doing so well that's why they're giving the show away for free on the internet the next 2 days in a desperate attempt to attract more subscribers. (which BTW his show's gotten even worse in the past 10 months, the same old routine just now with foul language and ads for online porn.)


Sirius is launching a brand new service/technology that allows subscribers to listen online. This not something that either satellite company has been able to offer till now. As far as I can tell XM still doesn't have it. So because Sirius is offering a 2 day free trial they're desperate? Sounds like genius marketing to me. Also what is wrong with trying to get more subscribers? LOL! Seems to me you simply have something against Howard Stern/Sirius and it's really embarrassingly apparent.


You can believe all the PR pieces you want that get printed in major newspapers, but "The Street" has a very different picture of Sirius at the moment.

Ok I'll ignore everything I've read in newspapers, online publications, see on tv as well as throw out common sense and take your little biased "spin" on facts instead. Fortunately I'm not that gullible.

[Brainiac 8]

:huh: Hulk, you should object to his insolent tone.:cwink:

[Kaboom]

no B8, the proper pbjection would be hearsay!

[Brainiac 8]

no B8, the proper pbjection would be hearsay!


overurled!:wow: :oldrazz:

[Kaboom]

youre not the judge of me!

[Brainiac 8]

No, she is!:wow:

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlDC/original/judgejudy-thumb.jpg:cwink:

[chosen1]

SO... How are butterfly effects sales going???

[blksuperman2]

Erica in Self Magazine:

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5014/06585ericaself01122397lojw6.th.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06585ericaself01122397lojw6.jpg) http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/929/06591ericaself02122481logv0.th.jpg (http://img287.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06591ericaself02122481logv0.jpg) http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/7257/06596ericaself03122513loot4.th.jpg (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06596ericaself03122513loot4.jpg) http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/2180/06601ericaself04122550lobk3.th.jpg (http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06601ericaself04122550lobk3.jpg) http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/5458/06607ericaself05122600loku7.th.jpg (http://img270.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06607ericaself05122600loku7.jpg) http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1180/06612ericaself06122316lowa4.th.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06612ericaself06122316lowa4.jpg)

Insanely Hot as usual....:)

Ok how'd I miss this. Shame on me.

[Kaboom]

i didnt knoiw ED liked the guy who lives under the sea.

[chosen1]

SO... How are butterfly effects sales going???

That bad huh?....

[The Incredible Hulk]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/dvdrentals/chart/?wk=2006-10-22&p=.htm

[chosen1]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/dvdrentals/chart/?wk=2006-10-22&p=.htm

whoa not too good....

[The Caped Knight]

Wither
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1691/wither02fi3.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6201/wither03qa5.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9347/wither04rx8.jpg

[Kaboom]

dude what happened to you? we were worried.

[The Incredible Hulk]

whoa not too good....

not too good as compared to what? It's a direct to video release, and made $3.7 million in its first 2 weeks.

That movie was probably made for less than $10 million. Hell the original that had a theatrical release, only cost $13 million to make

[Pythenis]

Here's a linky yall might like......I will say its NSFW but I cannot here whats going on there may be language and its the actual scene from Butterfly effect 2 its nothing you would not see on CSI or something like that.. http://www.metacafe.com/watch/270717/erica_durance_the_butterfly_effect_2_love_scene/

[COMPO]

Blow it out your ass pal.

All right...























I'd shag her.

[Jim Hall]

OK Mr. Bold for Emphasis, I'd love to see the data that backs that up and hopefully it's not from a Stern site. Sirius had 3.3 million subscribers before Stern got there and allegedley he added just over a million new subscriptions, a lot of which werent retained. I've seen the data the Sirius shareholders get and it's not pretty.


I have no idea who you are or what special info you have access to, but the stories printed in the major publications I have seen definately contradict your statement that Stern now only has about "200,000 listeners." Sirius' growth has accelerated significantly since the addition of Stern. Here is the data from the third quarter:

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/sirius-satellite-radio-third-quarter-2006-subscriber-additions.html

It was difficult, but I managed to get through that without using any bold for emphasis.

[Serene]

It was difficult, but I managed to get through that without using any bold for emphasis.

LOL... Congratulations. :D

[Serene]

I suppose I should post this here for those that don't visit the Talon thread.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4052/loisus1.jpg

[The Caped Knight]

I suppose I should post this here for those that don't visit the Talon thread.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4052/loisus1.jpg

:wow: :heart: That's outstanding , Did you do that Serene ?

[Serene]

:wow: :heart: That's outstanding , Did you do that Serene ?

Guilty as charged. :)

[Pickle-El]

I suppose I should post this here for those that don't visit the Talon thread.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4052/loisus1.jpg

Best investment(s) Durance ever made! :)

[The Incredible Hulk]

I'd like to "do that." :up:

[MJZ]

Better get your ticket and stand in line. :(

[heliorei]

I suppose I should post this here for those that don't visit the Talon thread.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4052/loisus1.jpg


Great job Serene!!!!! :up:

[The Caped Knight]

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/511/238308268518804a193st6.jpg

Man Erica's tall :up: :up:

[Serene]

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/511/238308268518804a193st6.jpg

Man Erica's tall :up: :up:
She was actually shorter and more petite than I thought she'd be when I saw her in person. She's thin and well-proportioned, so she photographs as taller.

[Kaboom]

shes practically perfect in every way, like mary poppins...except hotter.

[Serene]

shes practically perfect in every way, like mary poppins...except hotter.

I just saw the clip of her "skinny-dipping" scene from that horror movie yesterday. It's online at a few of the video sites.
She looks much better now. Much.

[Spider-Gamer]

I just saw the clip of her "skinny-dipping" scene from that horror movie yesterday. It's online at a few of the video sites.
She looks much better now. Much.
I have to agree with everything you said and I do mean everything. :cwink:

[MJZ]

She's thin and well-proportioned...

And how. :wow: :heart:

[thebigtree95]

From the WW website

Due to circumstances beyond our control, Erica Durance and David Palffy will not be appearing as previously scheduled. Erica Durance will not be at Wizard World Texas. According to Durance's manager and brother-in-law, Jeff Palffy, she is in Scotland, filming a movie titled Ecstacy.

[Nautica7mk]

From the WW website

Due to circumstances beyond our control, Erica Durance and David Palffy will not be appearing as previously scheduled. Erica Durance will not be at Wizard World Texas. According to Durance's manager and brother-in-law, Jeff Palffy, she is in Scotland, filming a movie titled Ecstacy.
Well that... sucks.

[The Incredible Hulk]

alright who's got scans of Lois in the shirt and high heels from last night?


and yeah I dont care who's getting mugged outside, I'm not leavin' that :up:

[The Caped Knight]

alright who's got scans of Lois in the shirt and high heels from last night?


and yeah I dont care who's getting mugged outside, I'm not leavin' that :up:

lol

[blksuperman2]

alright who's got scans of Lois in the shirt and high heels from last night?


and yeah I dont care who's getting mugged outside, I'm not leavin' that :up:

Indeed. :wow: :wow:

[Kaboom]

tonight they kiss, and there had better be some screen caps!

[Spider-Gamer]

tonight they kiss, and there had better be some screen caps!
They kiss tonight? I thought it was the episode Hydro? :huh:

[Kaboom]

shoot darn heck, i think youre right....i jumped the gun in my fanboy anticipation

[Spider-Gamer]

shoot darn heck, i think youre right....i jumped the gun in my fanboy anticipation
http://www.worth1000.com/entries/19500/19975_w.jpg

[04nbod]

yup hydro and thats not till jan i believe

[Spider-Gamer]

yup hydro and thats not till jan i believe
Correct and correct. :word:

[Riva]

Does anyone know if Erica Durance's contract is still 13 episodes this season?

[avidreader]

Does anyone know if Erica Durance's contract is still 13 episodes this season?

I read an answer to this question at TWOP by Ksite Craig, as many over there were asking the same thing. He checked it out with her Manager and the answer was that AT THIS STAGE Erica was contracted to do 13 episodes.

[Riva]

Thanks for the info Sue/Avidreader. (not sure what to call you here, lol!) :yay:

I was hoping her contract would be extended to maybe 15, 16 episodes. It would enable more development for the character. But oh well.

[Kaboom]

Thanks for the info Sue/Avidreader. (not sure what to call you here, lol!) :yay:

I was hoping her contract would be extended to maybe 15, 16 episodes. It would enable more development for the character. But oh well.

these seem to be the accepted abbreviations for the most prolific posters:

pat, avid, rene, trip, All-Star, Hulk, k8, b8 or brain, kai, boomster or boom, tree, sg,

[AgentPat]

these seem to be the accepted abbreviations for the most prolific posters:

avid, rene, trip, All-Star, Hulk, k8, b8 or brain, kai, boomster or boom, tree, sg,
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/mad2.gif

*ahem!*

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/bonk2.gif



:p

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/mad2.gif

*ahem!*

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/bonk2.gif



:p

lol PAT

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/shifty.gif


:woot: ;)

[Kaboom]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/mad2.gif

*ahem!*

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/bonk2.gif



:p

OUUUUUUUUUUUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

sorry i fixed it.

i am an awful person.

[avidreader]

Thanks for the info Sue/Avidreader. (not sure what to call you here, lol!) :yay:

I was hoping her contract would be extended to maybe 15, 16 episodes. It would enable more development for the character. But oh well.

Yeah, they just call me avid. But I'll answer to Sue as well. :yay:

[AgentPat]

OUUUUUUUUUUUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

sorry i fixed it.

i am an awful person.LOL!! I was just yankin' yer chain. Don't sweat it. ;)

Welcome to the crazy house, Riva. :D :up:

[Kaboom]

LOL!! I was just yankin' yer chain. Don't sweat it. ;)

Welcome to the crazy house, Riva. :D :up:

yes where the lunatics run the asylum

[Riva]

Lol @ crazy house. Thanks Pat. For the welcome and warning. :)

[The Caped Knight]

Old Erica Durance article
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3590/68841scan0001122479lost1.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=68841scan0001122479lost1.jpg)

[ariellem]

I think Choe is going to become some kind of paranormal investigator for some secret branch of the government or something. That seems to be more up her alley. Lois on the other hand, seems more keen on investigating people and getting to the bottom of their dirty little secrets.

With a few explain-it-away episodes, they could almost have Chloe as the young Dana Scully! There are enough X-Files/Smallville crossovers as it is... [Michael McKean!!! :-> ]

[sunflowercyn]

CTV's Etalk Daily aired a segment on Erica on December 1st 2006.

It is very recent with Erica being interview in London, UK and shows a 3 year old clip of her 1st interview with them, a collage of SV scenes, info on projects, photo layouts that she has done and how popular this Lois is.

At the end there is a montage of all the Erica tribute fansites out there on the web as well!

The funniest part IMO, is when Erica tells how the American actors like to tease the Canadian actors for their "Canadianisms". Too funny, but very true!

I posted it at the DTED earlier so credit goes there.

Here are links for you to enjoy as well so we can spread the love.
To watch the two minute clip:

HQ:http://files.filefront.com/eTalk_1_Dec_2006_720x544avi/;6284108;;/fileinfo.html

smaller:http://files.filefront.com/eTalk_1_Dec_2006_272x208avi/;6284043;;/fileinfo.html

and on YOUTUBE now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR-YAo9Zxeg

[The Caped Knight]

CTV's Etalk Daily aired a segment on Erica on December 1st 2006.

It is very recent with Erica being interview in London, UK and shows a 3 year old clip of her 1st interview with them, a collage of SV scenes, info on projects, photo layouts that she has done and how popular this Lois is.

At the end there is a montage of all the Erica tribute fansites out there on the web as well!

The funniest part IMO, is when Erica tells how the American actors like to tease the Canadian actors for their "Canadianisms". Too funny, but very true!

I posted it at the DTED earlier so credit goes there.

Here are links for you to enjoy as well so we can spread the love.
To watch the two minute clip:

HQ:http://files.filefront.com/eTalk_1_Dec_2006_720x544avi/;6284108;;/fileinfo.html

smaller:http://files.filefront.com/eTalk_1_Dec_2006_272x208avi/;6284043;;/fileinfo.html

and on YOUTUBE now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR-YAo9Zxeg


Congrats to ED for going from an unknown actress, To Super Star Actress thanks to her role on smallville as Lois Lane !!!!!!! :woot: :super:

[sunflowercyn]

So Smallville is doing some things right, eh Peter?

I hope they have Lois do more reporting angles as well like Erica said. Let's develop a key part of her character.

[TwilightPro101]

More Erica, period!

[The Caped Knight]

So Smallville is doing some things right, eh Peter?

I hope they have Lois do more reporting angles as well like Erica said. Let's develop a key part of her character.

YES

me too, I love watching Lois continuing to move closer towards The Superwoman she's destined to become (The iconic woman we all know and love.) :wow: :woot: :hyper: :woot: :super:

[Mary]

Chloe is going to investigate 33.1. And Lois will be away..well if they really wanted to give Lois a story, a real article they'd have Lois investigating 33.1.

Can't wait to see Chloe's article about 33.1. How Lex is going to react and etc.

[TwilightPro101]

Now, that's the kind of arc the series has been needing for some time.

[Mary]

Now, that's the kind of arc the series has been needing for some time.Yeah, i knew they hadn't forgotten 33.1 because of the Chloe Chronicles that was about 33.1.

[Mary]

Now, that's the kind of arc the series has been needing for some time.Yeah, i knew they hadn't forgotten 33.1 because of the Chloe Chronicles that was about 33.1.

[TwilightPro101]

Just a long overdue pay-off, that they once considered dropping as much as I hated the fact at the time.

[sunflowercyn]

Back to Erica Durance Appreciation:heart:

If you luv Erica then you will want to go to IGN and read this article.

http://comics.ign.com/articles/748/748754p1.html

For the record, we think Erica Durance, from Smallville, gives a brilliant performance. Sassy, sarcastic yet playful and seductive, Durance is the best future Mrs. Clark Kent yet.

We would love to have seen Erica Durance spin some lines with Reeve or even Routh.

Erica Durance is a brilliant, albeit a bit youthful, Lois Lane (we wonder how her chemistry would have been with Reeve).

and the last quote is for all the fans that don't like seeing Clark and Lois together on Smallville.


Our dream would be for the movies and Smallville to begin to find some common ground.

[AgentPat]

and the last quote is for all the fans that don't like seeing Clark and Lois together on Smallville.
Our dream would be for the movies and Smallville to begin to find some common ground. What's that mean? I love SV and I love TW's Clark and ED's Lois. What do they mean by "common ground?" 'Cause I grew up an only child; I don't share very well. And when it comes to THIS topic, I'm a brat of the most egregious kind LOL. :unishr:

[RakuMon]

What's that mean? I love SV and I love TW's Clark and ED's Lois. What do they mean by "common ground?" 'Cause I grew up an only child; I don't share very well. And when it comes to THIS topic, I'm a brat of the most egregious kind LOL. :unishr:
IGN goes on to explain what they mean by "common ground" thusly:

Common ground is the key word we think should apply to the entire Superman franchise, film or television. Christopher Reeve is the ideal Clark Kent though Bryan Singer's homage obviously creates a more believable Superman. Erica Durance is a brilliant, albeit a bit youthful, Lois Lane (we wonder how her chemistry would have been with Reeve). Michael Rosenbaum's Lex is superb though Kevin Spacey brings a very palpable rage to the screen as well. Mixing and matching the qualities of all of the eras of Superman on the screen would give us a true representation of the comic books. Nothing is ever perfect, but we can see something close to it when we look over the Donner, Singer and Smallville products.

[The Caped Knight]

Back to Erica Durance Appreciation:heart:

If you luv Erica then you will want to go to IGN and read this article.

http://comics.ign.com/articles/748/748754p1.html

and the last quote is for all the fans that don't like seeing Clark and Lois together on Smallville.

I love The Durance :woot: :hyper: :woot:

For the record, we think Erica Durance, from Smallville, gives a brilliant performance. Sassy, sarcastic yet playful and seductive, Durance is the best future Mrs. Clark Kent yet.

You got that one right she is the best version of The Future Mrs. Kent/Mrs. SUPERMAN

1. Durance
2. Delany
3. Hatcher

We would love to have seen Erica Durance spin some lines with Reeve or even Routh.


Agreed, She would be fantastic

Erica Durance is a brilliant, albeit a bit youthful, Lois Lane (we wonder how her chemistry would have been with Reeve).


I'm betting it would've been off the charts.

Our dream would be for the movies and Smallville to begin to find some common ground.

Tell me about it, I'd love to see this Lois interact with SUPERMAN as well as Mild Mannered Reporter Clark Kent and S.O.B. Lex Luthor .

[Riva]

That's a great article. Very complimentary towards Erica's portrayal of Lois. Very cool. IGN knows whats up. Lol.

[Mary]

Tsc, tsc, tsc...about this article all that i can say is that i'm having a good laugh here.

Erica Durance with Christopher Reeve? They lost all my respect with this phrase.

Ok, i respect that you all like Erica...but to say that Erica's version of Lois Lane is the best one? Come on people. Wake up.

To tell the truth i don't have anything against Erica, but the writing of EDlois. The could have done a best job with this version...but they didn't. But i'm happy that we have our Chloe Sullivan that does justice to Lois Lane since season 1. At least in Smallville.

[04nbod]

i'm fine with ED she's becoming much more like LL this season than chloe has ever been. She's snoopy- won't let anything go,gets herself into trouble has an attitude. yep -she's fine by me

[Pixiedust]

Tsc, tsc, tsc...about this article all that i can say is that i'm having a good laugh here.

Erica Durance with Christopher Reeve? They lost all my respect with this phrase.

Ok, i respect that you all like Erica...but to say that Erica's version of Lois Lane is the best one? Come on people. Wake up.

To tell the truth i don't have anything against Erica, but the writing of EDlois. The could have done a best job with this version...but they didn't. But i'm happy that we have our Chloe Sullivan that does justice to Lois Lane since season 1. At least in Smallville.

You say you respect our right to like Erica, yet you turn right around and tell us "Come on people. Wake up." when someone's opinion is that Erica is the best Lois. That doesn't sound very respectful to me. It sounds downright rude.

As for Lois investigating a real story...you mean like trying to find out the identity of the Green Arrow?...sort of like the iconic Lois Lane trying to find out the identity of Superman? That kind of real story?

You're certainly entitled to your opinion to think Chloe does justice to the character of Lois Lane. Personally, I think AM does justice to the character of Chloe Sullivan, the one that she has poured her heart and soul into making me like, the character she has stated that she doesn't want to be anyone else because Chloe is a strong female character all on her own without having to be someone she isn't. And I think Erica Durance does a great job as Lois Lane. She's one of my favorites to ever play the role.

[Migu-EL]

To tell the truth i don't have anything against Erica, but the writing of EDlois. The could have done a best job with this version...but they didn't. But i'm happy that we have our Chloe Sullivan that does justice to Lois Lane since season 1. At least in Smallville.

Yeah but Chloe Sullivan never played Lois Lane, she's simply Chloe Sullivan which isn't a bad thing.:cwink: In my opinion Smallville's version of Lois Lane is hands down one of the best in Superman mythology.:ninja: Everyone's has to remember that Smallville is showing us the journeys that Clark, Lois, and Lex take in order to reach their Destiny.

[chosen1]

C'mon guys give mary his due. She has a point. Every thing she has said is accurate. I've got nothing against Durance either but Chloe is lois and the writers messed the transition up. And as far as the wake up comment is concerned i think its to imply to all the people who are byist to be reasonable and put your dying devotion to durance aside and look at the facts of performance.

I've said my two cents


Mary Christmas to all.


"... and all the pieces matter." -- Freamon

[Riva]

I think it's a little disrespectful to come to an Erica Durance/Lois Lane thread and talk about how you wish someone else to be the character. IMO.

Just because people like Lois' character, doesn't mean they are 'biased' or have 'dying devotion' to Erica. Opinion's are subjective. People have valid reasons for being fans of the character. As does, evidently this IGN reviewer.

[avidreader]

You say you respect our right to like Erica, yet you turn right around and tell us "Come on people. Wake up." when someone's opinion is that Erica is the best Lois. That doesn't sound very respectful to me. It sounds downright rude.

As for Lois investigating a real story...you mean like trying to find out the identity of the Green Arrow?...sort of like the iconic Lois Lane trying to find out the identity of Superman? That kind of real story?

You're certainly entitled to your opinion to think Chloe does justice to the character of Lois Lane. Personally, I think AM does justice to the character of Chloe Sullivan, the one that she has poured her heart and soul into making me like, the character she has stated that she doesn't want to be anyone else because Chloe is a strong female character all on her own without having to be someone she isn't. And I think Erica Durance does a great job as Lois Lane. She's one of my favorites to ever play the role.

Couldnt have said it better myself. :up: So I wont even try and I'll just repost your post. ;)

[TwilightPro101]

C'mon guys give mary his due. She has a point. Every thing she has said is accurate. I've got nothing against Durance either but Chloe is lois and the writers messed the transition up. And as far as the wake up comment is concerned i think its to imply to all the people who are byist to be reasonable and put your dying devotion to durance aside and look at the facts of performance.

I've said my two cents


Mary Christmas to all.


"... and all the pieces matter." -- Freamon

I second that.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Does anyone know when Smallville will air in the UK?

[Kaboom]

Tsc, tsc, tsc...about this article all that i can say is that i'm having a good laugh here.

Erica Durance with Christopher Reeve? They lost all my respect with this phrase.

Ok, i respect that you all like Erica...but to say that Erica's version of Lois Lane is the best one? Come on people. Wake up.

To tell the truth i don't have anything against Erica, but the writing of EDlois. The could have done a best job with this version...but they didn't. But i'm happy that we have our Chloe Sullivan that does justice to Lois Lane since season 1. At least in Smallville.
someone want to chime in with the gough or miles quote that goes something like: you'd think when we brought LOIS LANE on the show, we'd be rid of the stupid Chlois theory.

[Serene]

C'mon guys give mary his due. She has a point. Every thing she has said is accurate. I've got nothing against Durance either but Chloe is lois and the writers messed the transition up. And as far as the wake up comment is concerned i think its to imply to all the people who are byist to be reasonable and put your dying devotion to durance aside and look at the facts of performance.

I have no dying devotion to Durance. But even if I did, it's really rude of you to imply that any opinion that is favorable to her Lois Lane is biased, and the bizarre Chlois theory is not.

To me, it's just as ridiculous as saying, "ya know.. Lex is really a good guy, in fact, he'd probably be a better Clark, so what's say we bump off Clark and replace him with Lex."

Stupid.

Chloe is Chloe.
Lois is Lois.
Lex is Lex.
and Clark is Clark.

And I'll get myself in a little deeper even...(since trip isn't here to stop me ;)). IMO, the whole Chlois theory is based on the broken hearts of sad little Chlarkers who know that in the end, no matter what.. Clark will be with LOIS and not Chloe. So to solve the dilemma, they'll just transform Chloe into Lois! Ta Da!

What I can't get over is how incredibly insulting that is to Chloe as a character.. as if she's not good enough being herself.

Most here know who my favorite girl is.. and there is still NO WAY IN HELL I'd ever want her to morph into anyone else, not even if it gets her Clark in the end.

Durance has grown on me immensely as Lois, and I fully expect her to continue doing so.

[AgentPat]

someone want to chime in with the gough or miles quote that goes something like: you'd think when we brought LOIS LANE on the show, we'd be rid of the stupid Chlois theory.Yeah, really!



"Facts of performance?" The heck ya talkin' 'bout, Chosen?

I don't get it? I mean, I can understand having a preference for one actor or character over another, but why do people want one character to BE another? It doesn't make any sense when we clearly have both characters ON the show, j'know? :rolleyes:

I was one of the folks waving the rah rah flag for Chloe to become Lois early on. Indeed, she was my favorite female character on the show... and if you push me hard enough, I'd say she probably still is.

But heeeelllllloooooooooo??????????????? Peoples! Peoples! Lois is ON the show now. LOL!!! Erica Durance IS Lois Lane. It says so in the scripts. Honest. I swear. LOLOL! I love her version of Lois; she's quite the spitfire for Clark.

Now, I'd love to see Chloe continue past SV and be involved in the background of the JL in some way - not as a hero per se, but a kind of Dr. Hamilton like character (the comic version, not SV's version.) Lois on the other hand is destined for a whole different thang; she's the one who wins Clark's heart. What's so hard about having both characters as real participants in Superman's future?

I do hope SV goes a seventh season because I really want to see how Clark's love for Lois is kindled and why it continues to burn so bright. Lois and Clark are the true soulmates - not Clark and Lana, and not Clark and Chloe. It's really pretty simple. Of all the things the SV producers and writers have carte blanche to reimage, that's one small detail in the canon they won't mess with.

[Serene]

Lois and Clark are the true soulmates - not Clark and Lana, and not Clark and Chloe. It's really pretty simple. Of all the things the SV producers and writers have carte blanche to reimage, that's one small detail in the canon they won't mess with.
Heh. I don't see it exactly that way.. but um.. another thread, another day..perhaps. :oldrazz:

[Riva]

Lol, no Rene, I'm sure you dont! ;) But hey, if it helps, for the record, I dont really buy into the concept of soulmates as such anyways. So make of that what you will. Heh.

But the general gist of yours and Pat's post - WORD.

[Mary]

someone want to chime in with the gough or miles quote that goes something like: you'd think when we brought LOIS LANE on the show, we'd be rid of the stupid Chlois theory.

I lost my hopes in season 4 before even watching it. I thought that the Chlois Theory was dead. But then, Lois Lane is written as a joke in season 4, season 5 and when i was ready to give up again this season they keep Lois Lane as being a Joke. So one thing that you can't say is that we are idiots for believing in something, for believing in this theory.

[Riva]

Well, I'm not so much saying you're an idiot for believing in it or whatever, but more the fact that you seem to think we're idiots, or this reviewer is an idiot for genuinely liking Erica's Lois. The fact that we do so because of some 'devotion' or 'bias', or that we have to 'face reality' or that it's 'fact' that this Lois 'is a joke' - these are the things I find objectionable and a little insulting. Because it is not, indeed fact. They're merely opinions.

[chosen1]

I have no dying devotion to Durance. But even if I did, it's really rude of you to imply that any opinion that is favorable to her Lois Lane is biased, and the bizarre Chlois theory is not.

To me, it's just as ridiculous as saying, "ya know.. Lex is really a good guy, in fact, he'd probably be a better Clark, so what's say we bump off Clark and replace him with Lex."

Stupid.

Chloe is Chloe.
Lois is Lois.
Lex is Lex.
and Clark is Clark.

And I'll get myself in a little deeper even...(since trip isn't here to stop me ;)). IMO, the whole Chlois theory is based on the broken hearts of sad little Chlarkers who know that in the end, no matter what.. Clark will be with LOIS and not Chloe. So to solve the dilemma, they'll just transform Chloe into Lois! Ta Da!

What I can't get over is how incredibly insulting that is to Chloe as a character.. as if she's not good enough being herself.

Most here know who my favorite girl is.. and there is still NO WAY IN HELL I'd ever want her to morph into anyone else, not even if it gets her Clark in the end.

Durance has grown on me immensely as Lois, and I fully expect her to continue doing so.

you forgot to wish us marry christmas

[The Caped Knight]

I lost my hopes in season 4 before even watching it. I thought that the Chlois Theory was dead. But then, Lois Lane is written as a joke in season 4, season 5 and when i was ready to give up again this season they keep Lois Lane as being a Joke. So one thing that you can't say is that we are idiots for believing in something, for believing in this theory.

See here's the thing that a lot of The Chlois fans failed to see. Their's a lot more to Lois Lane than just being a good reporter correction "A DAMN GOOD REPORTER" . She got a history & a past just like her future Farmboy/Flyboy husband . Smallville in season 4 told the back story of Lois as well as showing us the beginining her journey . Their are 3 different stages of Lois journey, so far we've seen two out of the three .

Season 4 & 5 : The Army brat daughter of General Sam Lane.

Season 6 : From Army brat to Investigative reporter

Season 7 : The Top Ace Reporter of The Daily Planet

[Kaboom]

you forgot to wish us marry christmas
I'll do it for her: mErry christmas

[AgentPat]

Heh. I don't see it exactly that way.. but um.. another thread, another day..perhaps. :oldrazz:Wait... which part? The part about what the producers are allowed to get away with, or the soulmate part? Cause in my WILDEST dreams, I can't imagine WB or DC letting G&M get away with offing Lois on SV and having Chloe take her place. No way Jose. Aint gonna happen. They'd have fanboys from here to Timbuktu centering them in a pair of crosshairs, and I'd be one of 'em. LOL!!! In short, it wouldn't be pretty.

As to the soulmate part, there's decades of Superman comics to back that up. Why would they want to allude otherwise? I know a lot of fanboys take umbrage with the love story angle, but it's a HUGE part of why (I think) the Superman myth endures as it well as it does. Unlike the doomed romances of Romeo and Juliet, Tristan and Isolde, Pyramis and Thisbe or Abelard and Heloise, Clark's love for Lois doesn't end tragically. It may be how the Clark and Lana romance ended, but Clark's future is one of hope. That's the point. His story continues past the tragedy, even if SV's telling of the tale doesn't. The writers and producers have been hard at work since Crusade to show the audience that, no, there IS another[/Yoda] and they've already found each other, even if they don't realize it yetl. :D

[The Caped Knight]

As to the soulmate part, there's decades of Superman comics to back that up. Why would they want to allude otherwise? I know a lot of fanboys take umbrage with the love story angle, but it's a HUGE part of why (I think) the Superman myth endures as it well as it does. Unlike the doomed romances of Romeo and Juliet, Tristan and Isolde, Pyramis and Thisbe or Abelard and Heloise, Clark's love for Lois doesn't end tragically.

It may be how the Clark and Lana romance ended, but Clark's future is one of hope. That's the point. His story continues past the tragedy, even if SV's telling of the tale doesn't.

The writers and producers have been hard at work since Crusade to show the audience that, no, there IS another[/Yoda] and they've already found each other, even if they don't realize it yet. :D

Excatly Lois & Clark/Superman's love is an everlasting love that has no ending . Their story to this day in the comic book fanbase is still the number 1# favorite Superhero couple followed by Peter/Spider-man & Mary Jane in 2# place .

Agreed

lol, It's so true. TPTB from since Crusade have been showing us and as well setting the foundation for Lois & Clark's future as well as their relationship.

From total Strangers, to competative rivals, To good/Best Friends, To the super romantic loves, to finally Eternal Soulmates :super:

[Kaboom]

Excatly Lois & Clark/Superman's love is an everlasting love that has no ending . Their story to this day in the comic book fanbase is still the number 1# favorite Superhero couple followed by Peter/Spider-man & Mary Jane in 2# place .

Agreed

lol, It's so true. TPTB from since Crusade have been showing us and as well setting the foundation for Lois & Clark's future as well as their relationship.

From total Strangers, to competative rivals, To good/Best Friends, To the super romantic loves, to finally Eternal Soulmates :super:

i agree with 99% of what you said. My view is that they were ALWAYS soulmates....they just didnt know it.

[AgentPat]

I'm feelin' the love!

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/circle.gif

[The Caped Knight]

i agree with 99% of what you said. My view is that they were ALWAYS soulmates....they just didnt know it.

Agreed

It was Love at first sight .


:super:

[Kaboom]

I'm feelin' the love!

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/circle.gif

where are the girl smileys in that circle?

[AgentPat]

Agreed

It was Love at first sight.Pfft! I'll say. I'd be in LOVE too seeing this for the first time...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade15.jpg

:D :up:

[AgentPat]

where are the girl smileys in that circle?They were busy with more important things when that shot was taken... http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/nails.gif

^ YES, *I* can say that. :p

[The Caped Knight]

Pfft! I'll say. I'd be in LOVE too seeing this for the first time...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade15.jpg

:D :up:

ha ha ha, Pat have I ever told you bring great joy & happness to my life . lol :D

[AgentPat]

ha ha ha, Pat have I ever told you bring great joy & happiness to my life . lol :DThat's what I'm here for, Kal. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/kiss.gif

















...besides the comic relief, that is. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/fly2.gif

[The Caped Knight]

That's what I'm here for, Kal. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/kiss.gif

...besides the comic relief, that is. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/fly2.gif

lol

[Pixiedust]

I lost my hopes in season 4 before even watching it. I thought that the Chlois Theory was dead. But then, Lois Lane is written as a joke in season 4, season 5 and when i was ready to give up again this season they keep Lois Lane as being a Joke. So one thing that you can't say is that we are idiots for believing in something, for believing in this theory.

Written as a joke? In what way? Because she is shown as less than perfect? Because she didn't get all her high school credits? Because she got kicked out of college?

To me that just shows a young, human Lois Lane capable of making mistakes and learning from them. Only in the Chlois theorists minds has Lois Lane ever been a perfect paragon, the smartest cookie in the jar. That isn't Lois Lane. That's Chloe Sullivan.

Lois Lane is brash, rude at times, has a take no prisoner attitude with a look before you leap nature and a tendency to stick her foot into her mouth because she acts before she thinks and thus finds herself in heaps of trouble. That fits the Lois that Erica plays perfectly.

This season she is finding her way into journalism and learning the lessons that will make her the best reporter ever. I hardly see her as a joke.

What I resent (like others) is the attitude that I am wrong, biased or mentally challenged for thinking that Erica's Lois is the real deal. You can believe in Chlois if you want. That doesn't make you an idiot. You're entitled to your opinion. But so am I and I firmly resent being condesended to because I'm not enlightened enough to share your belief. And I do believe someone telling me to "Wake up" is condescension.

This is the Erica Durance thread, not the Chlois thread. There are huge ones at Ksite and TWoP that you can debate your theory to your heart's content. I don't think this is the place for it.

Now I don't believe you have to be a Erica supporter to post in this thread. There is nothing wrong with a dissenting opinion. It can foster a good discussion. But to post just to bash the actor or character or other posters just because they don't agree with you just promotes negativity and does nothing to further a civil discussion. Just my opinion.

[TwilightPro101]

Just need more Erica as Lois on Smallville, period.

[triplet]

Tsc, tsc, tsc...about this article all that i can say is that i'm having a good laugh here.

Erica Durance with Christopher Reeve? They lost all my respect with this phrase.

Ok, i respect that you all like Erica...but to say that Erica's version of Lois Lane is the best one? Come on people. Wake up.

To tell the truth i don't have anything against Erica, but the writing of EDlois. The could have done a best job with this version...but they didn't. But i'm happy that we have our Chloe Sullivan that does justice to Lois Lane since season 1. At least in Smallville.

Wow...

tsk tsk tsk is right, but IMO you're "tsking" in the wrong direction, Mary.

It's not the ED fans that should get that, it's the writer of that article.

Why on earth didn't the writer give the show it's own little segments like he did with STM and SR versions...

Did he even mention Welling at all? I don't think he did... Shame, because I think Tom is the best Clark Kent but he's had the most screen time devoted to developing the character, so maybe it's not surprising.

I do enjoy his Clark more than the nerdy over the top one Reeve delivered, but that was a different time and a different place in Superman's evolution. As Pat has said before, I'll re-iterate the point, Clark should fade into the background as Clark, not call attention to himself by playing the buffoon.

Anyway, I think it's a ridiculous idea to try and pair a modern real-to-life Lois with a more comic-booky Supes that Reeve delivered.

However, I do agree with the writer that Durance has proved to be a terrific Lois. She's sexy, smart, witty, and charming. In looking at her in comparison to Kidder's, although it's kinda hard to compare since they were in such totally different takes on the franchise, Kidder was so "hard as nails" as a tough reporter that I thought that she was difficult to love as a woman.

In the more intimate moments she failed as Lois, as did Bosworth, however she had other problems that Kidder didn't, but I won't go there....

Anyway, unlike her predecessors, it's in the more tender moments that Erica Durance succeeds.

She is brilliant in the more intimate scenes she's had with Clark. Her Lois is far more complicated than Bosworth's or Kidder's ever hoped to be. She can vulnerable as well as tough.

As for Allison Mack's Chloe, I don't understand why anyone who likes her as much as you seem to would actually want her to somehow really be someone else? Why can't Chloe stand on her own as a character?

Why can she only be valid as a character if she somehow morphs into Lois?

As much as I love Chloe, I would never want her to be Lois. She's a terrific character all on her own...

And Serene, I'm not sure I would have stopped you even if I had been around...

;)

[The Caped Knight]

Why can't Chloe stand on her own as a character?

Why can she only be valid as a character if she somehow morphs into Lois?





Because she not apart of the Superman Mythology .

Because Lois Lane ends up with SUPERMAN/Clark Kent . Becoming Mrs. Kent/Mrs. Superman . Not to mention Lois Lane is a very high popular culture iconic .

[Serene]

I lost my hopes in season 4 before even watching it. I thought that the Chlois Theory was dead. But then, Lois Lane is written as a joke in season 4, season 5 and when i was ready to give up again this season they keep Lois Lane as being a Joke. So one thing that you can't say is that we are idiots for believing in something, for believing in this theory.
FWIW, my "stupid" comment refers to my opinion on the Chlois theory, not to anyone personally.

Wait... which part? The part about what the producers are allowed to get away with, or the soulmate part? *snip* As to the soulmate part, there's decades of Superman comics to back that up.

Nah... I'm with you on both of those points. Didn't you see my post above yours? My disagreement lies more in the particulars of the "soulmate" issue. But again, reeeally not for this thread..

[avidreader]

Now, I'd love to see Chloe continue past SV and be involved in the background of the JL in some way - not as a hero per se, but a kind of Dr. Hamilton like character (the comic version, not SV's version.) Lois on the other hand is destined for a whole different thang; she's the one who wins Clark's heart. What's so hard about having both characters as real participants in Superman's future?



I just want to give my opinion on this, and even though it does relate to Chloe I'm more or less giving a perspective on why Chloe wont be Lois.

We've seen Chloe a couple of times this season have to give up on a story because of Clark's secret. She's said that she would die for Clark, and if she wants to move further up the ladder at the Daily Planet then she's going to find she meets alot of conflict because of her devotion to him. Her 33.1 story may not develop into the full blown investigation that she wants because of Clark.

So I see what you're suggesting here Pat, as one way for her to bow out of the reporting world, which her character has never been a part of in any other incarnation of the story.

It still gives her a credible future. Helping people is more in line with what she seems to be about, and it also has a touch of irony to it, as Chloe is the only character from the get go who knew what she wanted to do with her life.

[BenReilly]

I do enjoy his Clark more than the nerdy over the top one Reeve delivered, but that was a different time and a different place in Superman's evolution.

You can't compare Welling's Clark to Reeve's because Reeve's Clark was nothing more than a facade, an act...

Lois: Must be tought being Clark Kent, isn't it?

Superman: No, I really like it sometimes, even though I do make a fool of myself. But you know, If it weren't for him, I never would have met you.

Lois: But he is you. It's kind of confusing.

Superman: Not to me it isn't. For the first time in my life... everything's clear.

In Reeve's portrayal of the character, Superman was the real persona. That was the man, who young Clark on the farm grew up to be. A caring and noble man. If your going to compare, that's where you should draw it from.

Anyway, I think it's a ridiculous idea to try and pair a modern real-to-life Lois with a more comic-booky Supes that Reeve delivered

I'm not really following you on this at all. I won't get into how "real-to-life" Lois is portrayed on the show, but Reeve played Superman pretty straight forward. Could you be a little more specific?

[triplet]

I'm not really following you on this at all. I won't get into how "real-to-life" Lois is portrayed on the show, but Reeve played Superman pretty straight forward. Could you be a little more specific?

Smallville is based on a realistic interpretation of Superman's mythos. STM didn't do that at all.

As much as I loved Reeve, his interpretation was fairly broad (despite some vulnerability and subtlety in his acting) and not totally based in a real world.

Added to that was the fact that the whole tone of that film is different than Smallville's. I just don't see ED's performance meshing with Reeve's, as good as they both were apart, I don't think they would match together.

[Brainiac 8]

You got that one right she is the best version of The Future Mrs. Kent/Mrs. SUPERMAN

1. Durance
2. Delany
3. Hatcher


I mostly agree with you, but for some reason Hatcher is still my favorite Lois on the screen. I still watch my dvds of Lois and Clark just to see her in the role.

Durance is a veeery close second though.

I liked that article though, it hit many bullseyes on the casting choices. That is all I'll say or I'll burst into flames again.:cwink:

[Brainiac 8]

:cmad:edit :( :cmad:

[heliorei]

Written as a joke? In what way? Because she is shown as less than perfect? Because she didn't get all her high school credits? Because she got kicked out of college?

To me that just shows a young, human Lois Lane capable of making mistakes and learning from them. Only in the Chlois theorists minds has Lois Lane ever been a perfect paragon, the smartest cookie in the jar. That isn't Lois Lane. That's Chloe Sullivan.

Lois Lane is brash, rude at times, has a take no prisoner attitude with a look before you leap nature and a tendency to stick her foot into her mouth because she acts before she thinks and thus finds herself in heaps of trouble. That fits the Lois that Erica plays perfectly.

This season she is finding her way into journalism and learning the lessons that will make her the best reporter ever. I hardly see her as a joke.

What I resent (like others) is the attitude that I am wrong, biased or mentally challenged for thinking that Erica's Lois is the real deal. You can believe in Chlois if you want. That doesn't make you an idiot. You're entitled to your opinion. But so am I and I firmly resent being condesended to because I'm not enlightened enough to share your belief. And I do believe someone telling me to "Wake up" is condescension.

This is the Erica Durance thread, not the Chlois thread. There are huge ones at Ksite and TWoP that you can debate your theory to your heart's content. I don't think this is the place for it.

Now I don't believe you have to be a Erica supporter to post in this thread. There is nothing wrong with a dissenting opinion. It can foster a good discussion. But to post just to bash the actor or character or other posters just because they don't agree with you just promotes negativity and does nothing to further a civil discussion. Just my opinion.


Wow...

tsk tsk tsk is right, but IMO you're "tsking" in the wrong direction, Mary.

It's not the ED fans that should get that, it's the writer of that article.

Why on earth didn't the writer give the show it's own little segments like he did with STM and SR versions...

Did he even mention Welling at all? I don't think he did... Shame, because I think Tom is the best Clark Kent but he's had the most screen time devoted to developing the character, so maybe it's not surprising.

I do enjoy his Clark more than the nerdy over the top one Reeve delivered, but that was a different time and a different place in Superman's evolution. As Pat has said before, I'll re-iterate the point, Clark should fade into the background as Clark, not call attention to himself by playing the buffoon.

Anyway, I think it's a ridiculous idea to try and pair a modern real-to-life Lois with a more comic-booky Supes that Reeve delivered.

However, I do agree with the writer that Durance has proved to be a terrific Lois. She's sexy, smart, witty, and charming. In looking at her in comparison to Kidder's, although it's kinda hard to compare since they were in such totally different takes on the franchise, Kidder was so "hard as nails" as a tough reporter that I thought that she was difficult to love as a woman.

In the more intimate moments she failed as Lois, as did Bosworth, however she had other problems that Kidder didn't, but I won't go there....

Anyway, unlike her predecessors, it's in the more tender moments that Erica Durance succeeds.

She is brilliant in the more intimate scenes she's had with Clark. Her Lois is far more complicated than Bosworth's or Kidder's ever hoped to be. She can vulnerable as well as tough.

As for Allison Mack's Chloe, I don't understand why anyone who likes her as much as you seem to would actually want her to somehow really be someone else? Why can't Chloe stand on her own as a character?

Why can she only be valid as a character if she somehow morphs into Lois?

As much as I love Chloe, I would never want her to be Lois. She's a terrific character all on her own...

And Serene, I'm not sure I would have stopped you even if I had been around...



I love you both!!! :yay: :woot: :cwink:

[triplet]

I love you both!!! :yay: :woot: :cwink:

LOL!

:D :up:

[Pixiedust]

Wow...

tsk tsk tsk is right, but IMO you're "tsking" in the wrong direction, Mary.

It's not the ED fans that should get that, it's the writer of that article.

Why on earth didn't the writer give the show it's own little segments like he did with STM and SR versions...

Did he even mention Welling at all? I don't think he did... Shame, because I think Tom is the best Clark Kent but he's had the most screen time devoted to developing the character, so maybe it's not surprising.

I do enjoy his Clark more than the nerdy over the top one Reeve delivered, but that was a different time and a different place in Superman's evolution. As Pat has said before, I'll re-iterate the point, Clark should fade into the background as Clark, not call attention to himself by playing the buffoon.

Anyway, I think it's a ridiculous idea to try and pair a modern real-to-life Lois with a more comic-booky Supes that Reeve delivered.

However, I do agree with the writer that Durance has proved to be a terrific Lois. She's sexy, smart, witty, and charming. In looking at her in comparison to Kidder's, although it's kinda hard to compare since they were in such totally different takes on the franchise, Kidder was so "hard as nails" as a tough reporter that I thought that she was difficult to love as a woman.

In the more intimate moments she failed as Lois, as did Bosworth, however she had other problems that Kidder didn't, but I won't go there....

Anyway, unlike her predecessors, it's in the more tender moments that Erica Durance succeeds.

She is brilliant in the more intimate scenes she's had with Clark. Her Lois is far more complicated than Bosworth's or Kidder's ever hoped to be. She can vulnerable as well as tough.

As for Allison Mack's Chloe, I don't understand why anyone who likes her as much as you seem to would actually want her to somehow really be someone else? Why can't Chloe stand on her own as a character?

Why can she only be valid as a character if she somehow morphs into Lois?

As much as I love Chloe, I would never want her to be Lois. She's a terrific character all on her own...

And Serene, I'm not sure I would have stopped you even if I had been around...

;)

What I love about Erica's Lois is that she takes the best Lois Lane qualities portrayed by Margot Kidder, the brahsness and take no prisoners attitude, and Teri Hatcher's vunerability and rolls it into a quirky and clever Lois who has as much chemistry with her Clark as her two predecessors did. [--notice I didn't include Kate ;)]

Not to spoil anything but in Richard Donner's cut of Superman II, Margot's Lois is toned down a bit, not as abrasive as the original. It just makes me love that movie even more.

I love Teri's Lois for the chemistry she had with Dean Cain. That's one of the things I love about Erica and Tom. They have the potential for that same kind of chemistry.

Admittedly, the writers have made Erica as Lois say some stupid things, things that are even OOC for her Smallville version of Lois, but that's not exclusive to Lois. I've wanted to smack Clark more than once for something stupid he's said and I love Clark more than any other character.

Erica does a great job with what she's given and it looks like she is having a blast this year since she's actually been given some good material to work with, unlike much of last year. I'm looking forward to seeing what the rest of the season holds for her.

[The Caped Knight]

Erica does a great job with what she's given and it looks like she is having a blast this year since she's actually been given some good material to work with, unlike much of last year. I'm looking forward to seeing what the rest of the season holds for her.

Me too.

[BenReilly]

Smallville is based on a realistic interpretation of Superman's mythos. STM didn't do that at all.

As much as I loved Reeve, his interpretation was fairly broad (despite some vulnerability and subtlety in his acting) and not totally based in a real world.

Added to that was the fact that the whole tone of that film is different than Smallville's. I just don't see ED's performance meshing with Reeve's, as good as they both were apart, I don't think they would match together.

I see what you mean and I agree about Durance's Lois not meshing well with Reeve's Superman. I was just referring to your comment about Reeve's Superman being to comic book like. If anything, the best thing he ever did with the role is how sincere and believable he made Superman out to be.
As far as Smallville being based on a more realistic take on the mythos, I think that might seem that way to you because your comparing a contemporary television show in 2006 to a thirty year old film. Smallville does do a lot of good things with their writing and characterization, as far as adding a real world aspect to show but they have also done a lot of things more far fetched and fantasy based than anything we ever saw in STM and completely throws the realistic interpretation out the window.

Just my opinion, of course.

[Dope Nose]

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1051/allisonmack10mk8.jpg

[StorminNorman]

I see what you mean and I agree about Durance's Lois not meshing well with Reeve's Superman. I was just referring to your comment about Reeve's Superman being to comic book like. If anything, the best thing he ever did with the role is how sincere and believable he made Superman out to be.
As far as Smallville being based on a more realistic take on the mythos, I think that might seem that way to you because your comparing a contemporary television show in 2006 to a thirty year old film. Smallville does do a lot of good things with their writing and characterization, as far as adding a real world aspect to show but they have also done a lot of things more far fetched and fantasy based than anything we ever saw in STM and completely throws the realistic interpretation out the window.

Just my opinion, of course.

Comparing Smallville's characters to Superman The Movie characters is not fair, those characters are 30 years older, in a different era, a different generation. You can compare Smallville though to Superman Returns. Routh's Clark is much less baffoonish than Reeve's and I think more a more useful alter ego for Superman than Smallville's Clark. Smallville's Clark, of course, has the advantage of not needing the alter ego yet.

As far as Lois goes, while I love Bosworth's Lane I have to agree. Durance captures everything the character should be. Of course she is in a much better situation than Bosworth (atleast as far as creating a comic-like Lane), she has much more screen time and does not have the character altering experience of having a child.

[Eddie Brock]

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1051/allisonmack10mk8.jpg
ooooh, that's kinda nice

[The Caped Knight]

As far as Lois goes, while I love Bosworth's Lane I have to agree. Durance captures everything the character should be. Of course she is in a much better situation than Bosworth (atleast as far as creating a comic-like Lane), she has much more screen time and does not have the character altering experience of having a child.

WORD .

[DrMylesOBoogie]

C'mon guys give mary his due. She has a point. Every thing she has said is accurate. I've got nothing against Durance either but Chloe is lois and the writers messed the transition up. And as far as the wake up comment is concerned i think its to imply to all the people who are byist to be reasonable and put your dying devotion to durance aside and look at the facts of performance.
Chloe is certainly not Lois. I've loved almost every incarnation of Lois Lane and cannot stand Chloe Sullivan in Smallville. I do think that Durance is the one of the best Lois's ever though. Only Hatcher has been better in the role.

[chosen1]

does she still get paid if she's not in the episode?

[AgentPat]

Actors are paid for what they're contracted for. In Durance's case, that would be 13 episodes. If her contract is extended to include more eps, she of course would be paid for those.

[chosen1]

Actors are paid for what they're contracted for. In Durance's case, that would be 13 episodes. If her contract is extended to include more eps, she of course would be paid for those.

interesting I remember Malcolm david kelly of Lost (Walt) was only in 3 - 4 episodes of season two. But he got paid for all 24 episodes.

Must be a different contract.:yay:

[AgentPat]

interesting I remember Malcolm david kelly of Lost (Walt) was only in 3 - 4 episodes of season two. But he got paid for all 24 episodes.

Must be a different contract.:yay:He was paid for whatever his contract stipulated, so yeah, must be a different contract. :)

[The Caped Knight]

Chloe is certainly not Lois. I've loved almost every incarnation of Lois Lane and cannot stand Chloe Sullivan in Smallville.

WORD !!!!!!!!!!!

Erica Durance is without question This generations Lois Lane . :super:

[04nbod]

and durance is consistantly playing this character every year- which is a task in itself- i think she does a wonderful job

[triplet]

Actors are paid for what they're contracted for. In Durance's case, that would be 13 episodes. If her contract is extended to include more eps, she of course would be paid for those.

I'm not so sure about that...

I think usually when your name is on an episode, and her name is on every one since she's now getting titles credit, you get residuals for those episodes but I'm hardly an entertainment lawyer...

I know the credit is a big deal for the WGA but I have no clue about what SAG says about them and how they impact fees and residuals.

[Eddie Brock]

WORD !!!!!!!!!!!

Erica Durance is without question This generations Lois Lane . :super:
yes
but Allison is awesome as well

[The Caped Knight]

Erica Durance has landed the second position on AskMen.com's top 10 up and coming Canadian actresses.

Erica Durance

Erica Durance was just another struggling actress when she won the iconic role of Lois Lane on television’s Smallville in 2004. Having deftly put her own spin on the classic character, Erica’s arrival within the pop culture landscape couldn’t possibly be more welcome.

Star power: By joining the cast of Smallville in its fourth season, Erica accomplished the exceedingly tricky feat of working her way into a firmly established cast -- and the show now seems as though it would suffer without her indelible presence. Although she’s going to have to work hard to avoid being typecast as a result of the role, there’s little doubt that if anybody can avoid such problems, it’s Erica.

Big break: Smallville continues to be a tremendous source of exposure for Erica, and she has two films that will only increase her stature among the fan community. Ecstasy, a dark romantic comedy, casts her alongside fellow Canadian up-and-comer Sarah Carter*, and also features appearances by Billy Boyd and Richard E. Grant. But it’s the straight-to-video Butterfly Effect sequel that should prove to be the real test of Erica’s star power as she attempts to bring her own spin to a very successful film.

*Please note that Sarah Carter is no longer starring in Ecstasy due to other projects.

from DevotedTo Erica Durance (http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1059927&postcount=2)

Congrats to Erica you deserve it. :super: :up: :up:

[04nbod]

who was number one?my guess- ellen page perhaps?

[KalKai]

Another SV girl, Sarah Carter. Emmanuelle Vaugier (Helen Bryce) is number 3.

[04nbod]

never heard of number three and haven't seen sarah carter in anything besides smallville

[Nautica7mk]

never heard of number three and haven't seen sarah carter in anything besides smallville
Other than Smallville, I only know her as Drew Fuller's girlfriend (I think!)

[Eddie Brock]

meeting her is still in the Top 10 Greatest Moments Of My Short Life
alongside my first kiss and getting Iverson's autograph

[The Caped Knight]

here a cool Lois Lane video featuring all the different version of Lois

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKFRHmr-kis

[The Caped Knight]

This a cool fan art poster of Red-K Kal & Lois
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/3979/smallvillebyweeddemontb6.jpg

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/44547342/?qo=175&q=Lois+Lane

[chosen1]

:wow: I didnt know that Stern Interview was online.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFA76I_hjtM&mode=related&search=

[Kaboom]

i come in here to feel better, and no pictures? grrrrr

[avidreader]

Here ya go Kaboom.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/suetomup/yngnp27ln.jpg

:woot:

[avidreader]

.... you wanted one of Erica.

Here ya go.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/suetomup/008AA.jpg

[Spider-Gamer]

Thank you Avid. :cwink:

[Kaboom]

.... you wanted one of Erica.

Here ya go.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/suetomup/008AA.jpg

:up:

[jensmith]

As to the soulmate part, there's decades of Superman comics to back that up. Why would they want to allude otherwise? I know a lot of fanboys take umbrage with the love story angle, but it's a HUGE part of why (I think) the Superman myth endures as it well as it does.

I'm late to the party, but had to say well said!

The issue isn't if the individual reading the story believes in soulmates. FWIW, I don't.

However, within the fictional universe known as the DCU, Lois and Clark have been shown over and over to be soulmates. Just lately, the Infinite Crisis arc explored this, and cemented it even further.

I agree, while there are grumblings within certain fanboy circles wrt the love store, when the relationship is tinkered with (Austen's arc a few years ago comes to mind) most fans get very upset.

Same can be said about the Spider marriage. I wasn't surprised at the resulting uproar when Quesada wished he could remove Peter's marriage from the Spiderman mythos.

[Brainiac 8]

How about these?

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8635/vlcsnap2403976dm7.jpg

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6418/vlcsnap2403653wr3.jpg

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6270/vlcsnap2405945kn1.jpg

teh h0tness, lol.

Sorry, just had to repost these and think about how jealous I am of her husband.:cmad:

[Kaboom]

Sorry, just had to repost these and think about how jealous I am of her husband.:cmad:

jealousy, Brain? Guard your emotions you must or to the dark side of the force, will you go.

[chosen1]

jealousy, Brain? Guard your emotions you must or to the dark side of the force, will you go.


i think you mean.

"Attachment leads to jealousy, the shadow of greed that is....
..... train yourself to let go of everything you have come love and care for..."

[blksuperman2]

jealousy, Brain? Guard your emotions you must or to the dark side of the force, will you go.

Yes..........Yes..........to 'boom, you should listen.:word:

[Legend Killer]

http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/8948/ericadkharenhill1ak4vs5.pnghttp://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6195/ericakarenhill02qq5.jpg

Source: http://www.kharenhill.com/

[avidreader]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR-YAo9Zxeg

Cute little interview. She looks like Angelina Jolie, without the lips. :woot:

[Riva]

I enjoyed that interview. Thanks for posting, Sue.

And those pictures you posted of her are beautiful, Legend Killer. I love the boots!

[ariellem]

She's much brighter on the show and in this interview than she seemed to be in the initial promo shots. They must have airbrushed her eyes or something back then. And she looks sooo much better with darker hair! I hope they darken it bit by bit on Smallville.

[Jack O Lantern]

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/38771602

An interview with WWE DIVA Layla, from their Superstar 2 Superstar page, along with Hulk Hogan interviewing Sly Stalone and WWE Champion John Cena interviewing Rap Star Snoop Dog.

[Legend Killer]

In some ways, water has been Erica Durance's personal Kryptonite. And it hasn't helped that her Lois Lane character always seems to be facing a watery grave in The CW's Smallville.

Lois hit her head on a dive and had to be rescued by Aquaman in "Aqua," was paralyzed with water rushing in on her in "Recruit" and was dunked repeatedly by thugs in "Arrow."

"No, I don't like water," Durance said during The Continuum's recent visit to the Smallville set. "But each time I'm becoming more and more comfortable, so that's good.

"I mean, it's like facing a fear."

Durance said that "Arrow," which was rebroadcast on Thursday night, is one of her favorite episodes.

"It was all over the place," she said. "I got to do some wirework and I got rescued. And I had to go in and there and fight it up. And, of course, they had the drowning."

So the good news is Durance is getting used to the water work. The bad news is that the next new episode of Smallville is called "Hydro," and it appears Lois will be at least getting wet again, as evidenced by the image released by The CW this week.

Source: http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0701/05/index.htm

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/38771602

An interview with WWE DIVA Layla, from their Superstar 2 Superstar page, along with Hulk Hogan interviewing Sly Stalone and WWE Champion John Cena interviewing Rap Star Snoop Dog.

LoL @ In-N-Out Burger being her kryptonite. Thanks for posting it MJD.

[Eros]

shes afraid of water? how does she bath herself, in fear? She baths herself with fear?!

[AgentPat]

Lois hit her head on a dive and had to be rescued by Aquaman in "Aqua," was paralyzed with water rushing in on her in "Recruit" and was dunked repeatedly by thugs in "Arrow."Don't forget almost getting electrocuted by a faulty coffee pot as water overflowed the sink at the Talon in Wreck-a-Thing. :D

[AgentPat]

Oh OH! And almost getting offed by Graham while in the shower in Fade. Clark got to see her in her B-Day suit in that episode. :wow:

[Riva]

Oh, poor Erica! She's a trooper though. :)

[The Caped Knight]

http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/8948/ericadkharenhill1ak4vs5.pnghttp://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6195/ericakarenhill02qq5.jpg

Source: http://www.kharenhill.com/


Nice pics . :yay:

[sunflowercyn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR-YAo9Zxeg

Cute little interview. She looks like Angelina Jolie, without the lips. :woot:

Glad you guys are enjoying it! I was flipping channels and low and behold I had really good timing 'cause I don't watch Etalk Daily. That was the first time I had ever uploaded anything but I'm glad I was able to. I like the part where she talks about the CDN's getting teased about saying sorry so much. So funny....so true.

I wish they'd let her go back to her natural dark hair...she'd be so stunning...very Jolie like.

[Riva]

Her darker hair is fantastic. I'm hoping because it was so dark here in this interview, which is pretty recent, that the colour will be retained for the show.

[The Caped Knight]

Here's a recent interview of Durance from Comics Continuum

BURNABY, British Columbia -- What's wrong with this picture?

Lois Lane, in an all-black leather outfit and short skirt, with bright red lip stick and a stragetically placed tattoo proclaiming her absolution devotion to Clark Kent, crashes Lex Luthor's party with Clark, looking to stir things up with her man.

If you've watched The CW's Smallville the past three years, you know that Lois clearly isn't herself. Yup, it's another one of Smallville's personality-change episodes, and for Erica Durance, who has played the wife-to-be of the Superman-to-be as someone with no current romantic interest in Clark, it's another chance to stretch her acting legs -- literally and figuratively.

It's a pretty intense scene as Clark, hyped up on Red Kryptonite, walks around the long table of guests, taking nasty verbal shots at Chloe, Lana, Lex and even his mother.

For the moment, Lois is spared the fireworks, but you can be sure it won't be long until she feels Clark's wraith, too.

As the crew turns around the camera for a different shot, Durance took a few minutes away from the set to talk with The Continuum.

Following is an edited transcription.

The Continuum: What do you think of this season, with your character hooking up with Oliver Queen, the Green Arrow and everything?

Durance: Well, I think each season everything builds and the relationships change a bit. I like this year because it's getting edgier, the stories are getting a little bit edgier. All the character arcs, having graduated from high school and all of those things, they're allowing them to experience different things.

And in particular for Lois, she has this romance with Green Arrow, which is nice for showing a side of her that is a bit more vulnerable. And then she gets to pursue more of the journalism, and I think she's on a journey to find herself a little bit more this year. And she's discovering, "Hey, I really like this," and maybe it is something that she's good at. So I've been able to play, definitely, with some different things this year.

The Continuum: She seems to be a different person with Oliver than she has been around Clark.

Durance: She's allowing herself to be vulnerable. She's actually allowing this person in. That's what's interesting. Everybody has certain defense mechanisms -- and Lois has a lot! But when she lets them down you see she is actually quite opposite to some of the stuff she puts out there, that sarcasm, that sassiness. That's part of her character, but a lot that is defense mechanism. She really is with somebody she trusts, she lets a lot of that down and doesn't mind having somebody else have a little bit more of that power.

The Continuum: Talk about working with Justin Hartley and him coming into the series.

Durance: Justin's really nice. He's a lot of fun and has got lots and lots of energy. Good jokes and that sort of thing.

Luckily with this show, everybody is just open. He just fit his own niche here, too. There are no airs on this set. So it was really nice for me to join and I think for him as well, although I don't want to speak for him. It seemed to be a really easy transition for him.

The Continuum: Has this been your favorite season?

Durance: I like this year even better than last year that I'm allowed to play a lot more things. I liked the "Arrow" episode a lot because I was able to deal with all sorts of things. That was the one where I got kicked and drowned and stuff.

It was all over the place. I got to do some wirework and I got rescued. And I had to go in and there and fight it up. And, of course, they had the drowning, which is a personal problem of mine.

The Continuum: You don't like the water, do you?

Durance: No, I don't like water (laughs) But each time I'm becoming more and more comfortable, so that's good. I mean, it's like facing a fear.

The Continuum: Judging by your appearance and attitude toward Clark for this scene, I gather Lois is "off."

Durance: No, I'm not playing the normal Lois. She is affected by, I call it, a love potion. The first person she sees, she believes herself in love with. So that's been fun to play, that total, youthful, innocent, jump-in-two-feet-first, I'm-in-love person. And, of course, that's just so not Lois, right? All the facades are down and she believes she's in love with him and it was meant to happen. So it's been fun to experiment with that.

The Continuum: What do you like most about Lois?

Durance: Her versatility. And her intelligence. She's not a victim. And when there are things that go on, even if it makes it worse, she will also look to herself to get out of something. Sometimes it makes it worse, but she doesn't go, "Will somebody help me? Somebody save me, somebody get me out of this." And I like that independence that she has. She won't feel sorry for herself very long. She might have a moment, but then she's like, "That's not productive."

The Continuum: Usually when Lois pops up, there's something going on.

Durance: Yeah! As an actress, I like the character of Lois Lane because she's versatile One time, she'll be getting in a fight. The next time, she'll find herself in love with someone. I like the fact that she walks in and saying something that is so opposite to what everyone else is feeling. Everybody is very dramatic and serious and there all these fantastic characters going on, and she comes in and says something stupid. I like that because that's the humor in it.

There's something that I look to in Lois: she says what everybody really wants to say about a situation, but most people won't say it. And she says it! That goes quite against my personal character, I find it fun to be able to go in and do that. "You're stupid" and "You drive me crazy." It's fun to play that, to find the humor.

The Continuum: What was it like meeting Margot Kidder at the convention in Toronto?

Durance: That was really cool. I remember I was standing there doing some autographs and then somebody grabbed me from behind and they put their hands over my eyes. And I was like, "OK, who is this?" because my husband wasn't there. And I turned around and it was Margot Kidder and I went, "Oh, my God!" She gave me this great hug and she was so fun. And then we got to do the Q&A together. It was awesome.


The Continuum: Has being part of the Superman mythos really sunk in?

Durance: Yeah, it does. When I originally got the part, I never had time to think about it in that specific kind of way because I just had to start working. I had to try to make it with respect to everybody else who has played it. And obviously, the Lois Lane guidelines. I had to try to find it. I had to look at her as a character that maybe hadn't been played before, just as this girl and this is where she comes from and these are her hang-ups. And then just, like Lois does, bulldoze my way through it. Throw a bunch of stuff on that wall and whatever sticks is what happens.

Occasionally, it will hit me that it's part of this really cool family. I can go, "No matter what happens in the rest of my career, I've done that. And that's kind of neat." I feel really lucky to be part of that.

The Continuum: You're doing a movie now, too?

Durance: It's too soon to say specifically when I'm working on it. They were going to fly me out to Scotland to do rehearsals for it. I was prepping for it and they were going to fly me to it for the weekend. And then as things go, the weekend comes by and then they give me a call... So it's still on the burner.

The Continuum: Are you set in the number of Smallville episodes you do in a season?

Durance: They still say 13, but there's always the possibility to do more. It comes down from above. I just always plan on 13.

The Continuum: Is it hard to know when you might or might not work?

Durance: I think, given the respect of how busy a TV schedule is, they've done a really good job of accommodating my schedule. Or if I have to go somewhere or do something. They've been really quite good about it and try to give me an overview of where things are going. Like last year, they helped me so I could do a couple of films. And this year, trying to balance out this one I'm trying to do in Scotland, they've been really patient with me.

I feel like I have the best of both worlds. I get to work on Smallville, which is a great show, and 13 episodes. And I still get to be free and I can go and do a film.

[Eddie Brock]

http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/8948/ericadkharenhill1ak4vs5.pnghttp://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6195/ericakarenhill02qq5.jpg

Source: http://www.kharenhill.com/
*rips out heart and offers it to Erica*

[TheCaptain22555]

I just enjoy seeing her. Now it's like, "Kristin? Who's that? Oh that Lana chick yeah....what about her?" I think Erica has been quite dope as of late and I really enjoy her character thus far.

[Legend Killer]

From the '06 Sci-Fi Calendar :wow: :D

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/7633/scificalender065dy.jpg

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/gallery/files/1/3/4/SVTVGJan29-Feb42007D.jpg
http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1134717&postcount=2

[avidreader]

Kal where have you been? I was actually starting to miss you and Batman. :cwink: :yay:

[Brainiac 8]

That's cool Kal. :up:


That callender pic!:wow:

[Kaboom]

http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/gallery/files/1/3/4/SVTVGJan29-Feb42007D.jpg
http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1134717&postcount=2
they sure do get alot of mileage out of that promo

[Brainiac 8]

It was a good promo...can you blame them?:cwink:

[DrMylesOBoogie]

I dislike that Lois's first kiss with Clark will be because of red kryptonite affecting him. They've managed to take all of the good out of it.

[LostSon88]

Meh...I was initally upset when Lana and Clarks "first kiss" was in Nicodemus...but I got over it.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Meh...I was initally upset when Lana and Clarks "first kiss" was in Nicodemus...but I got over it.It's a shame though. The show has such potential to be amazing but is actually quite poor.

[triplet]

I dislike that Lois's first kiss with Clark will be because of red kryptonite affecting him. They've managed to take all of the good out of it.

Uhm... their first kiss was in Hydro.

:confused:

[The Caped Knight]

Kal where have you been? I was actually starting to miss you and Batman. :cwink: :yay:

I've been around (mostly in The Spider-man 3 forum) lol Thanks Avi :woot: