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Brian Braddock
09-11-2006, 08:24 AM
Jim Lee, as undoubtedley talented as he is, draws all his guys with the same facial attributes (i.e, cheekbones that can cut glass) and the kind of physiques normally only seen this side of Mr. Olympia.

Quietley approaches the characters a tad differently, giving them the same individuality and facial differences that everyone has in the real world.

Quietley draws people as human beings, with warts and all. Lee draws people like they're out of the comics equivalent of Gattaca, ie. perfect, pretty people.

Edit:- Whereas Quietly's style perfectly fits the title as it certainly has elements in it that remind me of the likes of Curt Swan and Wayne Boring; providing more of a link to the age of comics that is inspiring ASS.

drastic_quench
09-11-2006, 10:05 AM
Frank actually draws Superman and Clark Kent differently...Jim just adds glasses and a suit imo. :o
Don't forget the Lex Luthor variation: he draws the same man, just bald.

GNR
09-11-2006, 11:22 AM
Yes it is. Because your opinions are wrong if they don't agree with mine.

:dew:

Purple Man
09-11-2006, 11:35 AM
There's no winning with some people.

Everyone has their favorite style. Some say Jim Lee, others say Frank Quitely, others Ed McGuiness. To most people it is, pick one, the other two suck. When in fact they're all good, but you need a outlet for your fanboy frustrations.

gildea
09-11-2006, 01:42 PM
Whilst I accept everyones differeing opinion.....

quitely is an artist (one of the very few working in superhero comics)

lee is merely rob liefeild with a sense of proportion and perspective.

The Leaguer
09-11-2006, 03:34 PM
Frank actually draws Superman and Clark Kent differently...Jim just adds glasses and a suit imo. :o
Yeah, 'cause Superman and Clark Kent are different people.

Ultimate_Superman
09-11-2006, 03:37 PM
^^^lol

Emerald Knight
09-11-2006, 03:49 PM
Yeah, 'cause Superman and Clark Kent are different people.

not entirely different people, just different in how Clark slouches and has the appearance of a "farmboy" physique, while Superman stands tall. Clark's facial features, his flat hair; the two "look" different when Quitely draws them.

The Leaguer
09-11-2006, 03:49 PM
Yeah, 'cause Superman and Clark Kent have different facial features.

Emerald Knight
09-11-2006, 03:54 PM
by features, I meant, how they typically show themselves...Clark typically looks shy and nervous, while Superman looks confident and strong.

SpideyInATree
09-11-2006, 05:05 PM
whatever, but more to the point wish morrison would tune down the weird stuff thats all. Im just can't wait till the next writer and story arc anyways.

You're wishing Grant Morrison, who is basically the king of weird in comics, to "tune", which I think you meant tone, down the weird stuff?

That's pretty much like asking Superman to tone down saving people. :oldrazz:

Emerald Knight
09-11-2006, 06:50 PM
You know, I hope that at some point Morrison breaks out Mxy. Just thinking about what Morrison would do with a fifth dimensional imp with too much time on his hands causes my brain to orgasm. just a little bit.

Sorry I found this out late, but you might want to check this out for issue number 6...
ALL STAR SUPERMAN #6

http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?s=31&cm=5918

Written by Grant Morrison; Art by Frank Quitely; Cover by Quitely

The award-winning, best-selling All Star saga brings Superman back to Smallville to mourn the loss of his adoptive father. As Clark Kent returns to his hometown roots, the fifth Dimensional trickster investigates human drama from an entirely different perspective.

DC Universe | 32pg. | Color | $2.99 US

On Sale October 25, 2006

Ultimate_Superman
09-12-2006, 09:26 AM
I just want to see Superman in action fighting someone. Instead of always talking so this issue I am looking forward to seeing. #7 that is.

Dr. Fate
09-12-2006, 11:54 AM
I just want to see Superman in action fighting someone. Instead of always talking so this issue I am looking forward to seeing. #7 that is.
Can't go wrong with violence.:word:

JTStarkiller
10-01-2006, 11:46 PM
#6 now due out in December? Jesus, this might turn into another All-Star Batman. That's a 3-4 month gap.

Anubis
10-02-2006, 02:23 AM
I don't mind. I've come to realize that because I subscribe to so many books, I can actually save money on the books that are late. A book that's like two to three months late means thats one less book I have to buy for two to three months and I could possibly fit in another book as a result. Or at least have extra cash leftover to try another book out.

The Leaguer
10-02-2006, 05:36 AM
#6 now due out in December? Jesus, this might turn into another All-Star Batman. That's a 3-4 month gap.
No, the difference is that All-Star Superman being late is a shame. All-Star Batman being late is mercy from God.

Punch
10-02-2006, 07:19 AM
Wasn't it known for a long time, maybe even before the first issue came out, that the book was going to be late? I remember reading about it on The Byrne forums(you can just imagine his opinion on that)

The Batman
10-02-2006, 09:09 AM
This book is one of the best books out there. Its different as well, telling all kinds of different stories issue to issue. Its not just a punch fest like post crisis superman. It actually brings back a sense of awe and fantasy to the character

Ultimate_Superman
10-02-2006, 09:51 AM
I can live with 6 being delayed if they keep their words and release 7 the following month as they have planned.

Brian Braddock
10-02-2006, 10:00 AM
This book is one of the best books out there. Its different as well, telling all kinds of different stories issue to issue. Its not just a punch fest like post crisis superman. It actually brings back a sense of awe and fantasy to the character


Hit the nail right on the head with that post. :up:

I'm just grateful that the book exists in the 1st place; sure it sucks that we have to wait a little bit longer than expected for it (much like the Ultimates) but given the title's quality, I can wait.

Sebastos
10-02-2006, 12:14 PM
I think Morrison is doing a great job on this book. Simple Superman stories told with action, love and great art.

SpideyInATree
10-02-2006, 05:18 PM
I don't mind. I've come to realize that because I subscribe to so many books, I can actually save money on the books that are late. A book that's like two to three months late means thats one less book I have to buy for two to three months and I could possibly fit in another book as a result. Or at least have extra cash leftover to try another book out.

Now THAT'S how you take a negative and make it into a positive. :woot:

Anubis knows how to roll, dawgs. If you're smart you'll roll with him, knowwhatI'msayin'?!?! :wow:

Anubis
10-02-2006, 09:07 PM
No, no I do not know what you are saying.

SpideyInATree
10-03-2006, 03:47 PM
No, no I do not know what you are saying.

Well, neither did I... :csad:

The Sage
10-03-2006, 04:04 PM
This book is one of the best books out there. Its different as well, telling all kinds of different stories issue to issue. Its not just a punch fest like post crisis superman. It actually brings back a sense of awe and fantasy to the character
That's why I love it.

Bullseye
10-30-2006, 09:22 AM
I dislike this comic more than I dislike All Star Batman & Robin.

SpideyInATree
10-31-2006, 05:21 PM
That's interesting. It's usually the other way around. What is turning you off so much from this title?

Eros
10-31-2006, 05:52 PM
I think it might be the over the top silliness that All-star superman shoves in our faces. Biblical characters arm wrestling superman is stupid, Jimmy olsen in drag has not been funny since the 60s. Dinosaurs and all the other werid stuff is confuseing to someone whos not 42 years old, and read comics when the writing was silly [the silver-age].

SpideyInATree
10-31-2006, 06:17 PM
I think it might be the over the top silliness that All-star superman shoves in our faces. Biblical characters arm wrestling superman is stupid, Jimmy olsen in drag has not been funny since the 60s. Dinosaurs and all the other werid stuff is confuseing to someone whos not 42 years old, and read comics when the writing was silly [the silver-age].

I wasn't around for the Silver Age and I'm having a lot of fun with the book, it's a really cool story. I also like All Star Batman and Robin too...so, you know.

Eros
10-31-2006, 06:25 PM
Oh I like the book, i just think it gets to weird a times.

SpideyInATree
10-31-2006, 06:34 PM
Well, Grant Morrison is the writer and he's like the king of weird. You should check out some of his Seven Soldiers mini's, that's ten times more weird than anything in All Star Superman.

storyteller
12-04-2006, 04:22 PM
At least it isn't all star batman. It took a crapload of issues to go to the damn batcave.

Assassin
12-05-2006, 12:32 PM
I dislike this comic more than I dislike All Star Batman & Robin.

:up:

The Leaguer
12-05-2006, 03:45 PM
I dislike this comic more than I dislike All Star Batman & Robin.
Hahahahaha, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Ultimate_Superman
12-06-2006, 07:52 AM
I want to like All-Star Batman but it is kind of hard when it takes three issues to get to the Batcave and has only 1 issue a year.

SpideyInATree
12-10-2006, 10:27 AM
Hahahahaha, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Wow. I guess you don't really ever read your posts or hear yourself talk then, huh?

The Leaguer
12-10-2006, 02:53 PM
I tend to pay the most attention to the smartest people on these boards.

So, I read my own posts almosts continually.

tophat491
12-17-2006, 05:23 PM
did any one else think that quitely's rendition of parisite in issue #5 was awsome. he just looked so freaky.

i also liked te way that he increased his mass instead of taking powers.

hippie_hunter
12-17-2006, 06:14 PM
I tend to pay the most attention to the smartest people on these boards.

So, I read my own posts almosts continually.

Oh Leaguer, you egotistical jackass :woot:

GoldenAgeHero
12-17-2006, 07:15 PM
was'nt the newest issue suppose to be due out this month?

JTStarkiller
12-17-2006, 07:35 PM
#6 is currently set for the 3rd.

Mogwai
12-26-2006, 12:30 AM
Did anyone read the article/preview of All-Star Supes in the latest Wizard? Looks like Morrison's going to be exploring Bizarro World too.

Anubis
12-26-2006, 07:44 AM
Boy, can't wait to see how bat s**t insane that's gonna be.

Emerald Knight
12-26-2006, 09:07 AM
I'm wondering how he's going to make Mxyzptlk mess things around in the sixth issue.

GNR
12-27-2006, 12:28 AM
#6 is on the list for next week.Yay.

Ultimate_Superman
01-04-2007, 08:45 AM
Superman Prime shows up in this issue as well as the new krypton he made. Morrison is really doing a hell of a job with this series and it all still ties in to the main plot.

Mogwai
01-04-2007, 05:25 PM
This last issue (#6) concludes volume 1, which was excellent.. Can't wait for all the 'Bizarro' stuff that's coming up next.

Motown Marvel
01-04-2007, 10:53 PM
damn this issue was incredible.

Venom160
01-05-2007, 12:56 AM
This series has been awsome so far. Iv never been that much of a Superman fan (do like smallville though) but this series has me hooked.

SpideyInATree
01-06-2007, 10:15 AM
I read # 6 this morning...awesome stuff. This is definitely the "It" Superman series for me. I hope that Morrison and Quitely stay on this title for a while because it's the best Superman stuff in my opinion.

Binker
01-06-2007, 10:56 AM
ALL STAR SUPERMAN #6

Writer-Grant Morrison
Art-Frank Quitely
Letterer-Phil Balsman
Cover Art-Frank Quitely
Editor-Bob Schreck

PLOT:
Clark Kent/Superman goes back to Smallville to mourn the loss of his adoptive father. While there to his hometown roots, the fifth Dimensional trickster investigates human drama from an entirely different perspective.

REVIEW:
Its been a long time since issue 5. I still remember getting that issue so for me, its been awhile. Thankfully the time between issues for this All Star title is somewhat a little better than the HUGE delays of All Star Batman & Robin. Everytime I saw the issue coming up, I now knew that I shouldn't get my hopes up. Because I knew what would happen and I would have to wait more. But by the end of December '06 going on January '07, I saw that All Star Superman was finally coming out that week. At first, like many, it was "do my eyes decieve me?". Nope. It was finally here.

Now for me, while I did read the solicit for this issue, from seeing the cover is where I had my own thoughts on what this issue might've been which was a 50/50 chance of actually being the issue. Seeing Krypto and Superman with Pa Kent's tombstone on the cover, and thinking back at Grant Morrison's interview, I was thinking that this storyline was to be about a flashback with Clark as Superboy, adventures with him, Pete Ross & Lana Lang with Krypto, but end with Pa Kent dead and Clark quitting Superboy as he was beginning to be a man. Now that thought is still in my head and I knew that since it was hardly what the issue was going to be, that if I still had that thought in my brain while I read this and it didn't have my idea, I might not like this issue for reasons that is only me and not true for what the book is. That wasn't a fear, just a concern.

But just what: this issue is, while not there, its as close as what my idea of what this sixth issue was going to be. I was surprised to see Superboy & Krypto, Lana Lang & Pete Ross, things that while it wasn't in my mind made another great issue of this series. As an extra, there are things in this issue that would geek you out. Of course, from all these references of many storylines and many eras of Superman, you may have to know alot or most about the DCU to understand.

This issue continues the main storyline that sorta stopped at Issue 3 (issue 4 was a Jimmy Olsen adventure and issue 5 was a Clark Kent focusing on Lex Luthor story). Which was part of my idea. This issue is about the last day of Pa Kent's life and includes The Superman Squad consisting of the Unknown Superman (most likely the same one seen in issue 2), the Superman from 853,500 A.D., and the Mxyzptlk-ed Superman from the 5th Dimension. This issue also includes time travel, the same time travel that will make you get headaches of what happened before this versus what happened in this issue now. Well maybe not, but it will get you thinking.

Let's go to what was shown in Smallville. First off, Clark back then...here, is not Superboy. He's Superman even back in his teens. The Kents shown here are, in my mind, have a generic design of both the Kents from the comics and what most people might think of couples in farms. Unlike Pete Ross, who wears something you might think a college student would wear in the sixties, Lana Lang doesn't look like she came from a Timeless Rockefeller America similar to Superman For All Seasons. Instead her clothes are very '90s-like with the flower pictured t-shirt, knee-high pants and flip-flops.

Pa Kent is the main focus in this issue. From the beginning where he talks to Young Clark about how it was like for him and Ma Kent before Clark arrived shows that he's religious, which kinda connects to Clark being Earth's savior. He must've known that he was gonna die on this day as the visit with the Superman Squad and his talk to the Unknown Superman gave him the courage to leave as he now knew it was fine and that Clark would be okay. While not the whole issue is about this, the whole thought of this is what made this time-travel, look back at Smallville issue a good one.

Overall, this was another good one. I loved that what I thought this issue was to be about was close to what this issue actually was. I hope the next issue comes out in February as I wanna see the book's take on the Bizarros in that action issue. Yes, you have to get this. Even when it comes to the time travel stuff.

RATING: 8/10

What's in store for next issue: an action issue of Superman versus Bizarro as Earth and Bizarro world go into battle.

K.B.
01-06-2007, 05:24 PM
I think all 3 superman titles are the best the books ever been now.

supes_el
01-07-2007, 08:43 AM
This issue was incredible...Well done and potentially a tear-jerker...

What I do not understand though is what is the deal with the Golden Superman at the end? Is that the Superman that went to live in the sun? It wasnt explained well. Also:

"You belong to the world now"

Emerald Knight
01-07-2007, 12:33 PM
Man this issue had nearly everything. Fifth dimensional beings, multiple time travelling heroes, the death of Jonathan Kent, the chronovore. I frakking loved it!

LibrarianThorne
01-07-2007, 01:41 PM
This issue really hit home for me. My own dad died in March of 2005, 2 years to the month this issue is cover dated. Seeing Superman go through all the same things I went through brought it all back, and I'm man enough to admit I cried at the ending of this book. It was beautiful, and one of the things that really hit me hard was Superman traveling back in time to, essentially, say goodbye to his Pa. Like the young Superman depicted in the book, I wasn't present when my own dad died, and I know how that can really tear someone up. Seeing my favorite fictional character go through that same kind of pain, even talking to his Ma afterwards the same way I talked to mine... it was pretty heavy stuff. This issue, while having a lot of farcical elements (like the Superman of the 5th Dimension, and Superman-Prime) had some of the best emotional beats I've ever seen in any comic book ever.

If he's reading this, excellent job Mr. Morrison. I learned a long time ago to believe that a man can fly, but with issue #6 of All-Star Superman, you've aptly shown that no matter how invulnerable we are or think we are, there will always be something that can affect us.

The Leaguer
01-07-2007, 01:42 PM
What I do not understand though is what is the deal with the Golden Superman at the end? Is that the Superman that went to live in the sun? It wasnt explained well. Also:

"You belong to the world now"
Yes.

gildea
01-07-2007, 07:20 PM
Best superhero comic on the stands.

It's criminal that it's only 12 issues and so infrequent.

Mogwai
01-07-2007, 08:57 PM
Best superhero comic on the stands.

It's criminal that it's only 12 issues and so infrequent.
agreed..

GoldenAgeHero
01-07-2007, 09:34 PM
best superhero comic on the stands? no it isnt.

detective comics,superman and justice society even if it has 1 issue out.

PWN3R
01-07-2007, 09:40 PM
All I know is I really want a handy hyperpoon now.

GNR
01-07-2007, 10:40 PM
It took me 3 reads to realize the first half of the issue all the way up to the funeral,occurs in the past.

GNR
01-07-2007, 10:41 PM
best superhero comic on the stands? no it isnt.

detective comics,superman and justice society even if it has 1 issue out.

You're both wrong.We all know it's Captain America.

GoldenAgeHero
01-07-2007, 11:52 PM
You're both wrong.We all know it's Captain America.


until they put that civil war **** in there.

PWN3R
01-07-2007, 11:58 PM
Cap's Civil War tie-ins were the best tie-ins. They didn't read like tie-ins, just felt like Bru continuing his story while touching on CW elements.

5th Dimensional Supes needs his own ongoing.

GoldenAgeHero
01-08-2007, 12:13 AM
well for now im avoding everything civil war related. the only book imenjoying from marvel is daredevil.

Ultimate_Superman
01-08-2007, 07:49 AM
Best superhero comic on the stands.

It's criminal that it's only 12 issues and so infrequent.Not true their run on this title is an open contract like Miller and Lee on All-Star Batman but at the moment they only plan on doing 12 issues.

The Question
01-08-2007, 07:52 AM
Cap's Civil War tie-ins were the best tie-ins. They didn't read like tie-ins, just felt like Bru continuing his story while touching on CW elements.

5th Dimensional Supes needs his own ongoing.

No. The world just isn't ready for that kind of badassery. Everyone on Earth would just commit suicide shortly after reading it, because they'd realize that they'd never experience anything that awesome ever again. :o

Ultimate_Superman
03-19-2007, 10:21 AM
All-Star Superman in June

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/June07/ASSM_Cv8_solicit.jpg

ALL STAR SUPERMAN #8
Written by Grant Morrison
Art by Frank Quitely & Jamie Grant
Cover by Quitely
The Daily Planet regulars hole up as the terrifying Bizarro plague spreads across Metropolis! Superman’s trapped in the reverse madness of a dying Bizarro World! It’s ALL STAR thrills from every angle, delivered by Grant Morrison, Frank Quitely and Jamie Grant!
On sale June 20 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99

Mogwai
03-19-2007, 02:12 PM
as always.. can't wait.

SpideyInATree
03-24-2007, 07:58 AM
As always Quitely draws the best Superman.

The Leaguer
03-25-2007, 05:25 PM
Absolutely not.

Eros
03-25-2007, 05:50 PM
As always Quitely draws the best Superman.


Laughs for many many days and many nights.

Anubis
03-25-2007, 09:55 PM
Well, we can all agree that he draws Supes with the biggest package.

The Leaguer
03-25-2007, 10:17 PM
That much is accurate, at least.

CConn
03-25-2007, 10:36 PM
I must say, while I'm not a fan of Quietly, I do like his Superman. He really seems to capture the innocence of Supes without reducing him to looking semi-retarded. Yes, Tim Sale, I'm looking at you.

Mogwai
03-25-2007, 10:50 PM
I definitely prefer his Supes to his X-Men work. To me, his style did not work for them.

Not Jake
03-26-2007, 01:49 AM
Quitely draws like, the best everyone. In the context of his overall illustration, anyway. For a poster shot, it's iffy as to whether you'd want a Quitely piece

SpideyInATree
03-31-2007, 08:55 AM
Laughs for many many days and many nights.

Glad that I could contribute to your many many days and many nights of laughs? :huh:

GoldenAgeHero
03-31-2007, 06:40 PM
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Dec06/SM/ASSM_Cv7_solicit.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Aprl07/previews/dcpreviews1.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Aprl07/previews/dcpreviews2.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Aprl07/previews/dcpreviews3.jpg
ALL STAR SUPERMAN #7
Written by Grant Morrison
Art and cover by Frank Quitely
The best-selling, smash hit All Star Superman bursts into another issue by comics masterminds Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely! The world is flipped upside down when the Man of Steel encounters his topsy-turvy doppelganger Bizarro! Round and square Earths collide in all-out, All Star action as two mismatched Supermen go toe-to-toe.
On sale December 20 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

gildea
03-31-2007, 09:09 PM
best superhero comic on the stands? no it isnt.

detective comics,superman and justice society even if it has 1 issue out.

Detective comics has distinctly average art, but does at least deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as all star supes.

The other too are a bit to meh for my tastes, they simply don't break ground or have the emotional core found in every issue of all star.

Different strokes for different folks.

Anubis
03-31-2007, 09:16 PM
You're both wrong, it's Invincible.

GoldenAgeHero
03-31-2007, 09:39 PM
invincible is a great book. its something that i miss from the spidey books.

Eros
03-31-2007, 11:04 PM
invincible is a great book. its something that i miss from the spidey books.

why do you think spider-man became such a massive hit in the 60s[which the character is ofcourse partly based on]. Invincible, is kind of how spider-man was in the 60s. Although with spider-man in the 60s it was ground breaking, but buy todays standards, a comic like Invincible, is nostalgic and fun.

Mogwai
03-31-2007, 11:38 PM
that preview looks great, can't wait.

Steelsheen
04-01-2007, 02:53 PM
not much of a fan of Quietly's work, but i really like the story so far.

GNR
04-01-2007, 07:27 PM
Can't wait,aren't we supposed to get a Bizarro JLA in this 2 parter?

Anubis
04-01-2007, 07:31 PM
wtf happened to the hype?

Mogwai
04-01-2007, 10:57 PM
Can't wait,aren't we supposed to get a Bizarro JLA in this 2 parter?

Yeah. I'm looking foward to that. Morrison spoke about that in Wizard, like a reverse Flash and a Wonder Woman made of clay.

Ultimate_Superman
04-11-2007, 03:05 PM
Once again All-Star Superman has yet to let me down and proves why IMO this is the still the number one Superman title and why even though I like the book All-Star Batman needs some help.

Mogwai
04-11-2007, 08:44 PM
#7 was a great read. Interesting story, plus amazing art.

Binker
04-12-2007, 11:53 AM
ALL STAR SUPERMAN #7

Written by Grant Morrison
Art and Cover by Frank Quitely
Edited by Bob Schreck

PLOT:
The world is flipped upside down when the Man of Steel encounters his topsy-turvy doppelganger Bizarro! Round and square Earths collide in all-out, All Star action as two mismatched Supermen go toe-to-toe.

REVIEW:
With #6, the thought was "okay now, the first half is done". Three months later now with #7, the thought is "good, lets start the second half...oh and that was a little quick this time wasn't it?". In the first half, Superman went through alot of things that were based on the Silver Age. But I could say that since this was a modern Silver Age story and Bizarro was comign also, people put what Bizarro was like, if not from the comics then from the Superfriends shows, into their heads as what they could expect from him in this series. Me, I knew what Morrison was planning. No joke. Before, or after, the series started Morrison was interviewed on what he was going to do wih All Star Superman. I believe I mentioned this on the previous issue review on Superboy. Well when he talked about his version of Bizarro: a zombie like clone race of Earth who you can turn you into a bizarro just by touching you. I went "woah, thats.....different". Now that we have the first issue of Bizarro in #7, time to see how it was handled.

Nothing has stopped me from loving this series, and nothing will. This issue was all good. This is a two parter so the explanation for the events we see here isn't explained yet but despite that, this issue was another good one. Then again I believe this whole series will altogether be one good take on Superman back in his Silver Age roots. Speaking of that, in this issue we have an old charcater who originally appeared back in the Bronze Age stories of Superman: Steve Lombard. If you don't know him, he was the sports newscaster for WGBS and joined Clark Kent when he was an anchorman thanks to Morgan Edge who took over The Daily Planet. I knew his name sounded familar but couldn't place it. So I had to look over his name to figure it out. So it was nice to have some more classic elements like him in thsi book. Then again, this is an All Star book.

The Bizarro(s) seen here is an interesting take. I like the modern versions of Bizarros like the Superman: The Animated Series version, or Alex Ross' very monster-like version. Here, Morrison's take on Bizarro is what I said it was: a zombie clone race of Earth whom can turn you into a zombie once they touch you. That doesn't mean Superman is off-limits to that because even he can be affected too. Thats why he has to fight Bizarro without actually touching him, which gives him more to do. They still talk backwards, which is expected with any vesrion, which made it hard for me to figure out what they were really saying. Which gave me headaches. And Bizarro World (or Htrae) is still what we know it as: a cubed shape planet with a cubed shaped sun. But in an original, new way: when Superman does indeed get touched by a Bizarro, we see his copy who is more like a "corrected" version of Bizarro. Named Zibarro. And its stuff liek that where we have to wait til part 2 of this two-parter.

Overall, this issue was another good one. The Bizarros here, and Grant Morrison's take on them, are interesting and I can't wait to see what happens with #8, part 2 of this two parter. We do get to see Lois again since her last appearence in issue 3 in her elegent gown and Jimmy since issue 4. So in closing; nothing is stopping this book from the greatness that it has.

RATING: 8/10

Next Issue: Will Superman escape Bizarro World to save Metropolis as it tries to survive the Bizarro plague?

Mogwai
04-12-2007, 07:47 PM
Great review, Binker. Zibarro definitely has my attention.

drastic_quench
04-13-2007, 02:36 PM
Steve Lombard was immune to the Bizarros due to boner pills! HA!

GoldenAgeHero
04-13-2007, 02:46 PM
yeah this ish was really good! the boner pills bit was funny as weill. I really think this bok fits quitely's artvery well. on marvel books it'll look like crap.

Mogwai
04-16-2007, 12:05 AM
yeah this ish was really good! the boner pills bit was funny as weill. I really think this bok fits quitely's artvery well. on marvel books it'll look like crap.

yeah, that's how i feel.

Dark Spidey
04-16-2007, 05:11 AM
While I love, love, love All Star Superman... this issue kinda stopped me in my tracks. Partly because i'm used to reading these stories in the "done-in-one" style. But probably mostly because I just don't really understand what was going on in this issue.

Where's the connection between the Sun-eater and the missing Bizarro technician and the under-verse and the zombie virus???

I thought Bizarro's were just P.R.O.J.E.C.T created clones.

Dark Spidey
04-16-2007, 05:48 AM
Okay. I just re-re-read the issue to make sure I wasn't being a total idiot...

And i'm still confused. :csad:

But this time around I caught that Superman's pet Sun-eater is a totally different thing from the Planet Eater that came from the Under-verse and then turns into the cube shaped earth. Okay. That much i'm sure of. :up:

What I still don't get is we are told that Bizarro's are P.R.O.J.E.C.T created Superman clones. I think this was even mentioned way back in All Star Supes #1. But later in this issue we are told that that Bizarros running around attacking people on earth are highly contagious infra-material, created by the Planet eater as a way of infecting it's target before it moves in for the kill.

So there are two different types of Bizarro. And that's even before we get to Zibarro. :huh:

Also, what exactly does Superman do to the Bizarro World/Planet Eater when he flys into one of it's mountains, that makes it disappear back into the Under-verse?? :huh:

Mogwai
04-16-2007, 03:11 PM
I was kind of confused with this story too, Dark_Spidey. Not sure where you got two different types of Bizarros from though. Does it have to do with the P.R.O.J.E.C.T ones and then the Cube Planet showing up?

Anubis
04-16-2007, 08:29 PM
Simple, the Bizarro tech got lost in the underverse, he apparently evolved or something into a living viral planet or something that was capable of producing Bizarro's that would infect whatever planet they were assimilating and turn the inhabitants into other Bizarro's. Apparently, time moves faster in the Underverse I guess, for him to have evolved into such a thing. Assuming it's really him and not something else entirely.

Mogwai
04-16-2007, 08:33 PM
That sounds feasible to me, Anubis. Too bad we have to wait a while for the conclusion to this story :(

SpideyInATree
04-20-2007, 06:04 PM
Really dug the latest issue. As usual Quitely continues to wow me with the best Superman drawn...EVER...*****es.

Pretty creepy stuff with the Bizarro's but I'm pretty intrigued by this Zibarro guy. Interesting concept but I couldn't help but thinking of Sbarro pizza when I saw Zibarro.

Conan
07-06-2007, 07:30 AM
The latest issue of All-Star Superman is pretty good. Lois finds out Superman is dying and that bomb Superman let blow up in the sun is somehow killing it.

Mogwai
07-06-2007, 05:27 PM
loved the bizarro justice league.

GoldenAgeHero
07-06-2007, 05:55 PM
this was a great issue,loved it. 10/10.

SpideyInATree
07-08-2007, 12:57 PM
I have to come in here and agree. The latest issue of ASS was stupendous!

Frank Quitely should just draw Superman and Bizarro all the time, haha. I love his work. But this was such a great story and, it's sort of cool to know, that we may be seeing Zibarro and his fellow band of merry Bizarro's in the VERY near future.

These guys can stay on this book forever if they'd like, heh.

Mogwai
07-08-2007, 01:11 PM
^^agreed.

The Leaguer
07-08-2007, 01:36 PM
Bizarro-Batman being killed by his parents had me cracking up.

SpideyInATree
07-08-2007, 01:59 PM
Yeah, that was kind of hilarious in a morbid kind of way.

Mogwai
07-08-2007, 04:00 PM
^^that sucks b/c i kind of wanted to see him.

GoldenAgeHero
07-08-2007, 04:28 PM
haha "me am batman,me not greatest detective in world,me have no prep-time"

Varient
07-08-2007, 04:40 PM
I'm really enjoying allStarSupes,... Man,... I'm gonna miss it when it goes away.

Mogwai
07-08-2007, 05:12 PM
^^atleast morrison/quitley's version.

Conan
07-09-2007, 07:36 AM
All-Star Superman is ongoing they just will change up teams like Superman/Batman. Well that was the plain when it first started anyways; kind of like how Birthright was suppose to be the start of Ultimate Superman but who know things may change like they did with Birthright.

Mogwai
07-09-2007, 10:10 PM
I really, really like the universe Morrison is creating. Maybe he'll expand upon it in the future.

sethcohen
07-09-2007, 11:19 PM
i kinda wish all star supes was action comics OYL... i bet morrisons bizarro world story pwnz the johns/donner one

GoldenAgeHero
07-09-2007, 11:45 PM
when does it comeout?

Conan
07-10-2007, 06:43 AM
August

Mogwai
07-10-2007, 04:39 PM
i kinda wish all star supes was action comics OYL... i bet morrisons bizarro world story pwnz the johns/donner one

oh, i'm sure it will.

Captain Clown
07-11-2007, 12:44 AM
Another great issue.

I loved bizarro Flash.

SpideyInATree
07-14-2007, 02:10 PM
Yeah, The Bizarro Flash did almost kind of steal the show.

Superman_
08-15-2007, 08:57 AM
All-Star Superman #9 cover

http://dccomics.com/media/covers/7799_400x600.jpg

Anubis
08-15-2007, 09:32 AM
Is that Zod?

Superman_
09-12-2007, 01:43 PM
here you guys go

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/005780/AllStar-SM.jpg

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/005780/AllStar-SL.jpg

Orko Is King
09-13-2007, 01:53 PM
Those look great!

Superman_
09-13-2007, 02:00 PM
I am still wondering when will we get just a regular post crisis Lois Lane figure.

Superman_
09-17-2007, 07:36 AM
All-Star Superman #10

http://supermanhomepage.com/images/solicitation-artwork/December-2007/ASSM10.jpg

Superman_
11-14-2007, 02:46 PM
Once again a great issue to the never disappointing series. I really hope when Millar and Hitch contract is up over at Marvel they would consider taking over this title. It has been great and I would hate to see it fall down the path of Superman/Batman although the last arc has been good and that team (Superman/Batman) should as well be given that title.

GNR
11-17-2007, 12:14 AM
Disappointing series?Have to disagree with you on that.

This has been a phenomenal take on Superman.Lots of big concepts and out of this world ideas which before this,I had no idea could work in a Superman book.

It's an innocent and honest approach with a character which can be challenging to write that just works on so many levels.

Sure the delays are out of hand,but this book is always worth it.

Superman_
11-19-2007, 07:00 AM
Disappointing series?Have to disagree with you on that.

This has been a phenomenal take on Superman.Lots of big concepts and out of this world ideas which before this,I had no idea could work in a Superman book.

It's an innocent and honest approach with a character which can be challenging to write that just works on so many levels.

Sure the delays are out of hand,but this book is always worth it.Sorry I meant to say never disappointing series thank you for pointing out my mistake.

Mogwai
11-21-2007, 10:34 AM
Once again a great issue to the never disappointing series. I really hope when Millar and Hitch contract is up over at Marvel they would consider taking over this title. It has been great and I would hate to see it fall down the path of Superman/Batman although the last arc has been good and that team (Superman/Batman) should as well be given that title.

man, i'd hate to see this title go the way of superman/batman...yikes.

sethcohen
11-21-2007, 10:39 AM
i wish someone would light a fire under quitely's ass... this is probably the best superman book out right now... him and gary frank are probably the best artists on superman ive ever seen... if quitely could actually make a deadline id say give him and morrison an in continuity book!

Varient
11-21-2007, 10:40 AM
man, i'd hate to see this title go the way of superman/batman...yikes.

2nd'ed.

GNR
11-22-2007, 01:41 PM
In the recent Wizard,GM states that after #12 ships and Frank is gone,their will be a series of ASS one shots written by himself drawn by other artists.

He said some stories which he could not fit into the 12 issues run,which he says has stayed the same since he came up with the idea,will be featured in these such as possible Legion appearances and some ideas for his Allstar Superman/Batman.

GoldenAgeHero
11-22-2007, 07:34 PM
sweet!!!!

Mogwai
11-22-2007, 09:11 PM
^^ agreed.

Rando Aces
11-25-2007, 06:36 PM
i really like this series. but the damn wait times are too long. it's like ultimate hulk vs wolverine. (sorry for marvel in a dc zone.)

Anubis
11-26-2007, 01:29 PM
No it's not. Compared to Ultimate Hulk vs Wolverine All-Star comes out weekly.

JackRembrandt
11-26-2007, 02:11 PM
How good is this book, really? I've heard things from respectable people that pretty much make this book into the second coming.

Andy C.
11-26-2007, 02:16 PM
That's rather subjective to the reader, but I highly recommend picking it up. It's a hell of a lot of fun.

JackRembrandt
11-26-2007, 02:26 PM
All opinions are subjective. That's why I judge them by who's mouth (or keyboard) they come from. :)

Anubis
11-26-2007, 03:06 PM
I wouldn't call it the second coming, but it is currently the best Superman book being written right now.

Not Jake
11-26-2007, 03:50 PM
Ugh I just know the one-shots with the other artists are going to be disappointing

Quitely is the only artist with a degree in Morrison Interpretation

JackRembrandt
11-26-2007, 04:44 PM
Quitely is the only artist with a degree in Morrison Interpretation

That's a pretty interesting comment. I don't think I could argue with it much, other then maybe bringing up Phil Jimenez's Invisibles work.

Not Jake
11-28-2007, 09:19 PM
Haven't read Invisibles yet, but I don't have any great love for Jimenez. He's solid but everything he draws just looks so...Eighties.

C. Lee
12-13-2007, 02:21 PM
I just finished All Star Superman issues 1-9. This is an excellent book. I love the artwork.....and the writing is good too. Can't wait to see more.

Ultimate_Superman
12-21-2007, 06:23 AM
All-Star Superman #11

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Dec07/DiDio/01/ASSM-Cv11.jpg

Mogwai
12-21-2007, 08:08 AM
looks great, as always.

GNR
03-05-2008, 07:45 PM
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=149066

Morrison being classy as always.

antonydelfini
03-30-2008, 06:38 AM
WOW.

Issue 10 is so full ideas it took me 3 times to grasp everything Grant put in there. AMAZING. Emotional and unique. Worth the wait.

STORY: 5/5
ART: 5/5

prince_dylan
03-30-2008, 10:58 PM
i am so glad i overcame my Superman hate to pick up this title. every issue is really good.

IzzyJG99
03-31-2008, 12:07 AM
Unlike All-Star Batman & Robin which......is like in purgatory rotting like that hooker Bruce Wayne had "taken care of" that one night so long ago.

Egotastic
03-31-2008, 11:18 AM
So what's the deal? Superman is God, now?

Anubis
03-31-2008, 03:18 PM
Our God I guess.

prince_dylan
03-31-2008, 04:29 PM
that's your opinion Izzy. i also happen to really like ASB&R as well.

IzzyJG99
03-31-2008, 06:46 PM
that's your opinion Izzy. i also happen to really like ASB&R as well.


No, no. I like it, actually. I think it's a neat little Miller-verse sort of thing. I just wish it hadn't taken 3 years to get this far.

storyteller
03-31-2008, 10:13 PM
I seriously would hate the gem turn into Ultimates Volume 3. Honestly if the normal superman comics had this quality every issue........

echostation
04-01-2008, 03:48 AM
i'm surprised more people haven't responded to this excellent thread about this brilliant comic series after the new issue's release... it's just too damn good

Varient
04-01-2008, 01:46 PM
i'm surprised more people haven't responded to this excellent thread about this brilliant comic series after the new issue's release... it's just too damn good

Already said i liked it and didn't want it to change.

but yes - this is a brilliant comic series and it is too damn good.

TheBlueRogue
04-02-2008, 09:18 PM
After lurking the SHH boards for years I just needed to make an account just to say that I abesolutely love this comic. ^_^

GodOfWar
04-07-2008, 09:42 AM
heh guess me and you are in the same club blue. this issue rocked hard. this series had rocked even harder. best superman comic,besides John's Action comics run ever.

Goldenage Batman
04-07-2008, 12:43 PM
Unlike All-Star Batman & Robin which......is like in purgatory rotting like that hooker Bruce Wayne had "taken care of" that one night so long ago.


It's getting better.....But on the subject of AS Supes....I really can't see any other superman book in the past now or in the near future to hold a candle to this book... Grant Morrison and Frank Quietly have done something to me that I didn't think anyone could...They've made me believe a man can fly...

GNR
04-09-2008, 07:31 PM
#10 was probably the best Superman comic I've ever read.

SpideyInATree
04-26-2008, 02:58 PM
I have to agree with GNR here. # 10 was definitely a really great issue. I just really think this entire All Star Superman series is the best Superman series I have ever read. From Grant Morrison's amazingly creative writing and ideas to Frank Quitely's artwork that fits like a glove to Morrison's style...well, it's just perfection on paper.

Ultimate_Superman
05-20-2008, 06:43 AM
Issue 12

http://i.newsarama.com/dcnew/Aug08/3/assm_cv12_solicit.jpg



ALL STAR SUPERMAN #12
WRITTEN by Grant Morrison
Art by Frank Quitely & Jamie Grant
Cover by Frank Quitely
The Man of Steel has faced twelve super-challenges. Now, as Lex Luthor’s brilliant, criminal machinations come together, what fate awaits the doomed Superman? This is the final, dramatic chapter of the incredible, award-winning 12-issue run of ALL STAR SUPERMAN by Grant Morrison, Frank Quitely and Jamie Grant – don’t miss it!
On sale August 6 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

yenaled
05-20-2008, 07:14 AM
Solaris just made me wee fanboy love.

Anubis
05-20-2008, 10:57 AM
Holy.Freaking.God.

TheCorpulent1
05-20-2008, 11:00 AM
Heh, I like how natural Lex looks with all that power at his command. Like his body finally matches his mind.

Anyone know if they're releasing a trade of this after Morrison's run finishes? I think I may read it after all, continuity be damned.

Mogwai
05-20-2008, 11:13 AM
^^they've released the 1st half (issues 1-6) in a trade and i'm sure the second half will come out as well.

Anubis
05-20-2008, 11:16 AM
Wait for the inevitable Absolute Edition or Hard Cover.

Brian Braddock
05-20-2008, 11:22 AM
Admittedly, I don't know much about Solaris - only that he's some sort of artificial Sun; so what are the odd's that Supes will sic his baby sun-eater on him?

Anubis
05-20-2008, 11:24 AM
He released it already. Maybe it'll come to save it's former owner? Whatever happens, it likely wont kill Solaris, seeing as he survives well into the 853rd century.

TheComicbookKid
05-24-2008, 08:50 PM
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/May08/previews/28th.html


Issue 11 preview on sale 5/29

Brian Braddock
05-25-2008, 06:19 AM
Looks awesome.

Mogwai
05-25-2008, 02:19 PM
^^agreed. can't wait.

TheCorpulent1
05-26-2008, 01:25 PM
I read the Free Comic Book Day edition of ASS #1. It was mostly good. It has some Silver Age touches that I could do without, notably Clark Kent being a total idiot and Superman's insanely through-the-roof power level, but I like that his increased power comes at a cost this time. I think I'll wind up getting the trade of Morrison and Quitely's run when it comes out. :up:

The Eagle Host
05-26-2008, 01:36 PM
I can't believe you haven't been getting this. It's fantastic.

TheCorpulent1
05-26-2008, 02:16 PM
I wasn't interested at the start because it was out of continuity and the in-continuity Superman comics were still good. Note the past tense there.

BrianWilly
05-26-2008, 02:28 PM
I can't believe you haven't been getting this! It's fantastic!!

TheCorpulent1
05-26-2008, 02:29 PM
Thank you, spazzEagle.

BrianWilly
05-26-2008, 02:37 PM
Exclamation points make the difference!!!!!

TheCorpulent1
05-26-2008, 02:43 PM
The difference in how much I roll my eyes while reading, perhaps.

BrianWilly
05-26-2008, 02:47 PM
You should have that looked into!!!

HA! Get it!!? "Looked" into????!

I'm done.

TheCorpulent1
05-26-2008, 02:51 PM
Praise Jeebus.

The Eagle Host
05-26-2008, 03:35 PM
Buy All-Star Superman.

TheCorpulent1
05-26-2008, 03:37 PM
Trade-waiting.

Blader5489
05-26-2008, 09:06 PM
I read the Free Comic Book Day edition of ASS #1. It was mostly good. It has some Silver Age touches that I could do without, notably Clark Kent being a total idiot and Superman's insanely through-the-roof power level, but I like that his increased power comes at a cost this time. I think I'll wind up getting the trade of Morrison and Quitely's run when it comes out. :up:

If the Silver Age nods annoy you, then you probably shouldn't bother. The whole thing is a huge fanwank to the Silver Age Superman (it is Morrison after all).

I like it, and I think Morrison pulls it off (albeit not as well as Alan Moore did), but if the Silver Age touches in issue 1 bothered you then you might have a hard time enjoying the rest of the book.

The Eagle Host
05-26-2008, 09:42 PM
Morrison does it better than Moore.

yenaled
05-27-2008, 07:06 AM
The Legal Eagle speaks the truth.

TheCorpulent1
05-27-2008, 08:27 AM
If the Silver Age nods annoy you, then you probably shouldn't bother. The whole thing is a huge fanwank to the Silver Age Superman (it is Morrison after all).

I like it, and I think Morrison pulls it off (albeit not as well as Alan Moore did), but if the Silver Age touches in issue 1 bothered you then you might have a hard time enjoying the rest of the book.
Cool. **** it, then. That's money back in the ol' pocket. :up:

yenaled
05-27-2008, 12:31 PM
It's no more Silver Age than John's Action Comics.

TheCorpulent1
05-27-2008, 12:49 PM
I've only read the Legion story in that, and the Silver Age stuff with Clark was tolerable because it was almost non-existent. Superman appears as Clark for a few pages in the first issue of that arc and that's about it--and even then, I thought it was an awkward and unnecessary regression with no apparent explanation.

The Silver Age Legion stuff didn't bother me because I like the Legion in general and, honestly, they're not too dissimilar from the Waid or Zero Hour versions. Their motivations are somewhat less complex than the Waid Legion, which is a shame, but I didn't really expect Waid's Legion to survive for long after they brought the Silver Age version back anyway.

BrianWilly
05-27-2008, 05:42 PM
You're seriously going to pass up an Eisner-award winning, unanimously-recommended material from Morrison because it's too silver age for you?

TheCorpulent1
05-28-2008, 07:28 AM
Uh... yeah? :huh:

BrianWilly
05-28-2008, 08:05 AM
Well did you skip New Frontier because it was too silver age? It's not like DC's actual continuity is anything to sing about at the moment.

TheCorpulent1
05-28-2008, 08:10 AM
Nah, I liked the Silver Ageyness of New Frontier. ASS' Silver Ageyness seems to be the annoying kind, with all the zany nonsense that defined Superman in that era.

echostation
06-01-2008, 04:24 AM
so anyone pick up the new issue... havne't had the chance to buy it yet but heard it's out

Blader5489
06-01-2008, 08:58 AM
#11 issue was pretty cool, might be my favorite yet.

Question about issue #10: what was the deal with the person drawing a Superman comic in the future?

echostation
06-01-2008, 11:04 AM
basically he's saying that Superman is our God... he implanted the idea of drawing Superman into the young artist's mind as a symbol through page to bring hope and enjoyment to many around... at least that's what i remember, i could be flat wrong though

BrianWilly
06-01-2008, 11:19 PM
Not exactly. Earlier in the issue, Superman created a baby universe to observe what would happen in a world where he didn't exist. In that universe, mankind is still fascinated by the idea of "Superman" anyway, as indicated by scenes showing its Lutheran ideology and Nietzsche's Übermensch conception, and then finally the work of a comic book creator in the 20th century.

Joker
06-01-2008, 11:53 PM
I read the Free Comic Book Day edition of ASS #1. It was mostly good. It has some Silver Age touches that I could do without, notably Clark Kent being a total idiot and Superman's insanely through-the-roof power level, but I like that his increased power comes at a cost this time. I think I'll wind up getting the trade of Morrison and Quitely's run when it comes out. :up:

The Silver Age stuff is pretty much the entire point of this arc. It's all a huge Silver Age throw back. You know, that seems to be all Morrison has done lately with everything he's written. It works here though, as opposed to Batman, as this is out of continuity.

TheCorpulent1
06-02-2008, 08:19 AM
Everyone at DC seems to love the Silver Age lately, not just Morrison.

Blader5489
06-02-2008, 11:30 AM
Everyone at DC seems to love the Silver Age lately, not just Morrison.

Probably seems that way because Morrison and Johns have essentially been given the keys to the DCU.

Dr. Fate
06-02-2008, 02:10 PM
Everyone at DC seems to love the Silver Age lately, not just Morrison.
Damn Silver Age.

Anubis
06-02-2008, 02:23 PM
Read the book Corpy.

TheCorpulent1
06-03-2008, 08:08 AM
Okay, but only for you, Nubsy.

Mogwai
09-16-2008, 12:56 AM
issue #12 preview: http://comics.ign.com/articles/910/910266p1.html (http://http://comics.ign.com/articles/910/910266p1.html)

Ultimate_Superman
09-17-2008, 01:41 PM
A great end to a great series I am sad to see it go.

antonydelfini
09-18-2008, 04:01 AM
This issue is what I call a "face melter". What a Superman story. I really want this series to continue because it doesn't really feel like the end.

Ultimate_Superman
09-18-2008, 07:10 AM
This issue is what I call a "face melter". What a Superman story. I really want this series to continue because it doesn't really feel like the end.
Agreed seeing that Superman didn't really die but is repairing the sun while everyone else thinks he is dead and is trying to clone him. It really did not seem like the end to a story but the start to a whole new arc. I would love it if this was a monthly title but now it just seems like a maxi-series.

Tron Bonne
09-18-2008, 08:44 AM
I was always under the impression that this was an ongoing series. Is it suppose to be a maxi-series now or something?

Ultimate_Superman
09-18-2008, 09:09 AM
What I have heard is when All-Star Batman wraps up they are going to re look at the whole All-Star idea much like how they did with their DC film properties. Which is why we haven't seen All-Star Wonder Woman or Batgirl or GL yet.

Which is why I called this title a maxi series because they will be taking a long break from the line soon.

The Sage
09-18-2008, 09:13 AM
Agreed seeing that Superman didn't really die but is repairing the sun while everyone else thinks he is dead and is trying to clone him. It really did not seem like the end to a story but the start to a whole new arc. I would love it if this was a monthly title but now it just seems like a maxi-series.

Agreed. Also...

Someone commented that the ending could be a hint at DC One Million. Perhaps when Superman finishes repairing the sun, all his friends and loved ones will have passed on, and he'll leave Earth in the hands of his successors--the clones--and find another world to protect

All-Star's probably the finest Superman story I've ever read. Can't wait for the second trade. Worth enough to pay the HC price for.

Tron Bonne
09-18-2008, 01:42 PM
What I have heard is when All-Star Batman wraps up they are going to re look at the whole All-Star idea much like how they did with their DC film properties. Which is why we haven't seen All-Star Wonder Woman or Batgirl or GL yet.

Which is why I called this title a maxi series because they will be taking a long break from the line soon.

I actually hadn't heard anything about it. Great, well, blah

Mogwai
09-18-2008, 04:26 PM
i was wondering why there has been no new news/info about the future of all star comics.

GyLocke
09-19-2008, 03:51 AM
Morrisson said he gave his best Superman ending to Mark Millar, who used it in Red Son Krypton is future earth and the House of El descended from Luthor. So even though Luthor "won" and lead humanity into a utopia, he worked towards what he hated: the birth of Superman so he had to come up with an even crazier ending. I think ASS would've ended better that way. But then again I love me some Red Son. Aside from "what could've been" ASS was a great little series.

Anubis
09-19-2008, 09:08 AM
Can't wait to get my issue today.

Also, love that sig GyLocke. That movie was awesome. :up:

Blader5489
09-19-2008, 10:32 AM
Morrisson said he gave his best Superman ending to Mark Millar, who used it in Red Son Krypton is future earth and the House of El descended from Luthor. So even though Luthor "won" and lead humanity into a utopia, he worked towards what he hated: the birth of Superman so he had to come up with an even crazier ending. I think ASS would've ended better that way. But then again I love me some Red Son. Aside from "what could've been" ASS was a great little series.

Yeah, Red Son was an alright story, but the ending was absolute genius.

fifthfiend
09-20-2008, 11:23 AM
Agreed. Also...

Someone commented that the ending could be a hint at DC One Million. Perhaps when Superman finishes repairing the sun, all his friends and loved ones will have passed on, and he'll leave Earth in the hands of his successors--the clones--and find another world to protect

All-Star's probably the finest Superman story I've ever read. Can't wait for the second trade. Worth enough to pay the HC price for.

I dunno, I think what I always liked about the DC1M timeline is how it hinted at Kon-El carrying on the Superman legacy, which was cool because Kon-El was the ****. I'm less enthused about a bunch of random nobody clones I've never heard of.

Unless Morrison is hinting at All-Star Kon-El, in which case I'm 100% in favor.

BrianWilly
09-20-2008, 06:18 PM
Technically the first Superman clone in the All-Star 'verse would be All-Star Kon-El, wouldn't it? That's how I saw it when I read this issue, Superman Secondus stuff notwithstanding.

fifthfiend
09-20-2008, 06:37 PM
Yeah but there's "technically" All-Star Kon El and then there's All-Star Kon El.

antonydelfini
09-20-2008, 08:10 PM
I have some questions about the issue:
1. What did Solaris do to the sun? How did he poison it and why did he double-cross Luthor?
2. How did Superman repair the sun? How is he building that artificial heart?

fifthfiend
09-20-2008, 08:33 PM
1. SCIENCE!

2. with SCIENCE!

antonydelfini
09-20-2008, 08:44 PM
1. SCIENCE!

2. with SCIENCE!

But HOW?

SouLeSS
09-20-2008, 09:04 PM
So I read the entire thing 1-12, and I gotta say I wasn't too blown away or anything. It was just a total mehfest most of the time.

That and it seemed like I was missing a whole **** load of issues because everything seemed to jump from one point to the next.

fifthfiend
09-20-2008, 09:08 PM
But HOW?

You don't know a lot about SCIENCE!, do you?

Blader5489
09-20-2008, 09:27 PM
I have some questions about the issue:
1. What did Solaris do to the sun? How did he poison it and why did he double-cross Luthor?
2. How did Superman repair the sun? How is he building that artificial heart?

The "sun's heart" bit was just a metaphor. Supes' body was converting into energy, and so just as he was falling apart, he plunged himself into the sun. That energy fixed what Solaris had done, so in a way, Superman had become the sun's heart.

antonydelfini
09-20-2008, 10:23 PM
The "sun's heart" bit was just a metaphor. Supes' body was converting into energy, and so just as he was falling apart, he plunged himself into the sun. That energy fixed what Solaris had done, so in a way, Superman had become the sun's heart.

Ahhhh thanks a lot. But what did Solaris do to the sun?

Blader5489
09-20-2008, 10:39 PM
I dunno. Science?

batnkevlar
09-20-2008, 11:43 PM
http://www.freenyc.net/images/NachoLibre.jpg

"I do not believe in God, I am a man of SCIENCE."

Ultimate_Superman
09-22-2008, 11:42 AM
Technically the first Superman clone in the All-Star 'verse would be All-Star Kon-El, wouldn't it? That's how I saw it when I read this issue, Superman Secondus stuff notwithstanding.

Yeah but there's "technically" All-Star Kon El and then there's All-Star Kon El.
Kon-El actually did have a cameo in this title if you caught it. When you saw Superman Prime he cam out with Kingdom Come Kon-El and Matrix Supergirl.

GNR
09-22-2008, 10:27 PM
just read #12

this series is already a classic IMO and Grant's definitive superhero story

SouLeSS
09-22-2008, 10:38 PM
WHY

I still don't see why everyone thinks it's one of the best superman stories ever. It's just a buncha jumbled ideas thrown together rather sloppily with very little coherence inbetween the entire thing. With the exception of the "HEY IM GONNA DO 12 TRIALS!" and the Superman/Lex thing, just about EVERYTHING ELSE comes out of absolutely no where.

webhead921
09-22-2008, 11:03 PM
A fitting conclusion to a great series.

Keyser Soze
09-24-2008, 07:03 AM
This line by Superman, in #11, gave me goosebumps:

"What a life! I've traveled across time and space. I've seen and done things beyond imagination. Blessed with friends like Pete and Lana and Jimmy. And Batman... what incredible adventures we've shared. What amazing people I've known. But Lois, dear Lois... I loved you most of all. And no matter how dark it seems, there's always a way."

It's so simple, but so powerful at the same time. One of the best lines I've read in a comic in years.

Mogwai
09-24-2008, 11:52 AM
love that line. issue #6 has some powerful stuff in it as well.

SpideyInATree
11-24-2008, 01:01 PM
I really loved the conclusion to this series as well. This was definitely a favorite Superman story of mine. I am a really harsh fan on Superman because, well...I'm not really that big of a fan of the character. But this story from Morrison/Quitely definitely reminded me of why I enjoy the Superman character and, sometimes, the comics. I wished that they could have kept continuing the stories for a little longer, but sometimes too much of a good thing can make it a bad thing.

Does anybody know what the next creative team is going to be to do an All Star Superman book?

Kitsune
11-24-2008, 03:56 PM
This line by Superman, in #11, gave me goosebumps:

"What a life! I've traveled across time and space. I've seen and done things beyond imagination. Blessed with friends like Pete and Lana and Jimmy. And Batman... what incredible adventures we've shared. What amazing people I've known. But Lois, dear Lois... I loved you most of all. And no matter how dark it seems, there's always a way."

It's so simple, but so powerful at the same time. One of the best lines I've read in a comic in years.

Now lets just hope some <Censored> EiC doesn't make Clark make a deal with the devil and undo the marriage.

Blader5489
11-24-2008, 03:59 PM
Now lets just hope some <Censored> EiC doesn't make Clark make a deal with the devil and undo the marriage.

You didn't read All Star, did you?

The Sage
11-25-2008, 09:26 AM
I really loved the conclusion to this series as well. This was definitely a favorite Superman story of mine. I am a really harsh fan on Superman because, well...I'm not really that big of a fan of the character. But this story from Morrison/Quitely definitely reminded me of why I enjoy the Superman character and, sometimes, the comics. I wished that they could have kept continuing the stories for a little longer, but sometimes too much of a good thing can make it a bad thing.

Does anybody know what the next creative team is going to be to do an All Star Superman book?

Apparently DC's discontinuing the All-Star line as soon as Miller & Lee wrap Batman. All-Star Superman is solely Morrison & Quitely's masterpiece. Too bad for the line, but this is a great story to remember it for.

Ultimate_Superman
11-25-2008, 11:37 AM
Apparently DC's discontinuing the All-Star line as soon as Miller & Lee wrap Batman. All-Star Superman is solely Morrison & Quitely's masterpiece. Too bad for the line, but this is a great story to remember it for.Yes and you can thank All-Star Batman for this which is why All-Star Wonder Woman will not see the light of day nor any other All-Star book. I wish DC just get it over with and start an Ultimate line like how they planned.

Blader5489
11-25-2008, 11:41 AM
Apparently DC's discontinuing the All-Star line as soon as Miller & Lee wrap Batman. All-Star Superman is solely Morrison & Quitely's masterpiece. Too bad for the line, but this is a great story to remember it for.

Link?

Ultimate_Superman
11-25-2008, 01:28 PM
Link?It was on Newsarama a few months back when All-Star Superman wrapped and they were asking about the other tie ins.

prince_dylan
11-25-2008, 06:26 PM
DiDio was asked at SDCC whether any new All-Star titles were coming out. His reply was "Not at this time."
That's not a statement about how the All-Star line is going to be discontinued; it's just a statement on the current release schedule for any new series.
any previously announced series could still be in the works, maybe hording issues to be released in a timely manner rather than bi-, tri-monthly.
they did this with Kevin Smith and his "Batman: Cacophony" series, so maybe this could be an application as well.

Sandman138
11-25-2008, 09:11 PM
Ahhhh thanks a lot. But what did Solaris do to the sun?

My best guess? Solaris screwed with the Sun's fusion process, starting a chain reaction that shut it down. Superman injected enough energy into the system to start a new nuclear reaction.

WHY

I still don't see why everyone thinks it's one of the best superman stories ever. It's just a buncha jumbled ideas thrown together rather sloppily with very little coherence inbetween the entire thing. With the exception of the "HEY IM GONNA DO 12 TRIALS!" and the Superman/Lex thing, just about EVERYTHING ELSE comes out of absolutely no where.

Myths and narrative structure are applied to events in hindsight. The 12 Trials are the future's way of making sense of the last year of Superman's life. They structure what would seem to be a random and chaotic series of events the same way all myths try to make sense of life.

Finally, this (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16095-its-confirmed-matter-is-merely-vacuum-fluctuations.html) puts issue 12 in an interesting light.

Ultimate_Superman
11-26-2008, 08:01 AM
DiDio was asked at SDCC whether any new All-Star titles were coming out. His reply was "Not at this time."
That's not a statement about how the All-Star line is going to be discontinued; it's just a statement on the current release schedule for any new series.
any previously announced series could still be in the works, maybe hording issues to be released in a timely manner rather than bi-, tri-monthly.
they did this with Kevin Smith and his "Batman: Cacophony" series, so maybe this could be an application as well.
That's one quote but he was asked flat out about the line and has said the All-Star titles didn't work out how they planned so they are not moving forward with them at the moment.

SpideyInATree
11-27-2008, 07:12 PM
Apparently DC's discontinuing the All-Star line as soon as Miller & Lee wrap Batman. All-Star Superman is solely Morrison & Quitely's masterpiece. Too bad for the line, but this is a great story to remember it for.

Damn that really sucks! But at the same time it will be difficult for anyone to to that All Star Superman run. I was really hoping that both the series could continue with stellar creative teams having their own takes on the character. Oh well.

Sandman138
11-28-2008, 09:06 PM
I'm glad it's ending. Anything that followed was just going to be a disappointment.

Ultimate_Superman
02-20-2009, 02:25 PM
After re-reading over the All-Star Superman series I am wondering did All-Star Superman really did or did we see the starting phase to Superman 1,000,000 ( as seen in DC One Million and All-Star Superman #6)?

Anubis
02-20-2009, 06:34 PM
I think so, but it doesn't quite match up with the continuity they had presented. He had traveled the Universe for a few thousands years before he came back and went to live in the sun. Maybe he comes back and does the whole hero thing until Lois finally dies, then maps the universe, then comes back and lives in the sun for 800 years or whatever.