Tom Welling as Superman

[triplet]

EDIT: muscles got the quotes first...


That guy should double check his posts for spelling and grammar, but maybe the info that Robert is checking on is whether Tom is still in the running not why the negotiations broke down...

Although, them relaunching MOS with Tom in the suit might be a stretch, I'm not sure I buy that but if they are looking for Tom to help reboot Superman as a franchise, that might be accurate.

Things to ponder anyway....

[musclesforsupes]

Maybe Tom wont get the role for JLA, but maybe be recast in Routh's place for SR II

[musclesforsupes]

EDIT: muscles got the quotes first...


That guy should double check his posts for spelling and grammar, but maybe the info that Robert is checking on is whether Tom is still in the running not why the negotiations broke down...

Although, them relaunching MOS with Tom in the suit might be a stretch, I'm not sure I buy that but if they are looking for Tom to help reboot Superman as a franchise, that might be accurate.

Things to ponder anyway....


This is what I am thinking too, well time for lunch i will be back at 12:45 PM eastern time.

[Billy Batson]

I'm not buying any of this until an official announcement is made.
Cool pastime for the time being.

[RakuMon]

EDIT: muscles got the quotes first...


That guy should double check his posts for spelling and grammar, but maybe the info that Robert is checking on is whether Tom is still in the running not why the negotiations broke down...

Although, them relaunching MOS with Tom in the suit might be a stretch, I'm not sure I buy that but if they are looking for Tom to help reboot Superman as a franchise, that might be accurate.

Things to ponder anyway....

You know, if true, this makes sense as to why IESB kept reporting that "Man of Steel" is still in the pipeline. Who says "Man of Steel" has to be a SR sequel?! If JLA does as well as people expect (with Welling in the role, that is), then "Man of Steel" could be WB's attempt at a rebooted Superman franchise.

[triplet]

You know, if true, this makes sense as to why IESB kept reporting that "Man of Steel" is still in the pipeline. Who says "Man of Steel" has to be a SR sequel?! If JLA does as well as people expect (with Welling in the role, that is), then "Man of Steel" could be WB's attempt at a rebooted Superman franchise.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Maybe they'd use the name and ditch using the continuity from SR....

Not sure Tom's supes would fit into that universe, if they're going into a more comic oriented universe they'd have to change a lot from how things were and looked in SR.

Maybe they'd use some of the sets if they still exist down under, but the somber look and feel of SR wouldn't fit into a more broad Comic-centric universe. Especially if they're going to build off of the JLA film with OMACs and world wide conspiracies to destroy meta-humans and take over the world...

[joeycortes611]

MOS = Reboot

Nothing as of now is still sure but Tommy is still in the run for The S man

[Billy Batson]

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[Showtime]

They won't cast Welling in a Superman Returns Sequel if that is what they mean by MOS.

[smsvmos]

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Dude that is nice :D WoW

[Billy Batson]

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[Billy Batson]

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[triplet]

They won't cast Welling in a Superman Returns Sequel if that is what they mean by MOS.

No, that's what Raku meant, it'll probably be a reboot not a sequel...

[smsvmos]

I hope we get Tom

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[Migu-EL]

That's private. :oldrazz:

:csad:

[Kalleo]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Maybe they'd use the name and ditch using the continuity from SR....

Not sure Tom's supes would fit into that universe, if they're going into a more comic oriented universe they'd have to change a lot from how things were and looked in SR.

Maybe they'd use some of the sets if they still exist down under, but the somber look and feel of SR wouldn't fit into a more broad Comic-centric universe. Especially if they're going to build off of the JLA film with OMACs and world wide conspiracies to destroy meta-humans and take over the world...

Not sure where the more comic thing came from I dont even see Smallville even closely as a comedy. LOL ok dumb a s s here I see what ya mean more like the Comics. Duh wow I am a idiot i need more coffee.

[Billy Batson]

:supes:

[Migu-EL]

No, that's what Raku meant, it'll probably be a reboot not a sequel...


Hopefully the rumors are true.:supes:

[musclesforsupes]

Hopefully things are looking up, Welling in MOS would be awesome.

[musclesforsupes]

Plus it would make sense, let JLA have a diff Supes, make MOS a reboot and have it start filming in 09 for a 10 release!

[Kalleo]

I would prefer him in both JLA and any new Superman movie just have one Supes. As for what I posted way back this is possible only have Clark written in half the episodes of Smallville as the ones he is not there he could be away in show helping Green Arrow. This way Kara can take care of things in Smallville and also be a good judge for her own solo series.

[Kalleo]

If Millar and Gough are the reason Tom does not get the role of Superman I swear as much as I love watching Smallville I'll never watch it again. To me those guys are just being pricks if they keep Tom from doing it. I wont watch anything those two have their hands in if this is the case.

[triplet]

Not sure where the more comic thing came from I dont even see Smallville even closely as a comedy. LOL ok dumb a s s here I see what ya mean more like the Comics. Duh wow I am a idiot i need more coffee.

LOL!

Yeah, I meant "comicbook-centric"...

:D

Go get some caffeine in you and you'll be okay.

;)

[avidreader]

:csad:

Dont be sad. Its not a big deal. :)

If Millar and Gough are the reason Tom does not get the role of Superman I swear as much as I love watching Smallville I'll never watch it again. To me those guys are just being pricks if they keep Tom from doing it. I wont watch anything those two have their hands in if this is the case.

It may not be just their doing. However, the thing I dont get is, they keep saying that Tom is contracted for an 8th Season of Smallville, but this JLA movie is supposed to film between Feb and July. It would interfere with Tom's Season 7 commitments, moreso than Season 8.

[ZIPBAGS]

What would be funny is if it was Welling and Routh posting the rumors. ;)

And on that note. I really hope Welling does get the role. :D

[Kalleo]

Yeah this whole under contract to Smallville is BS I mean who cuts the checks who owns the rights to most everything on Smallville? WB does so why would Millar and Gough want to piss them (as in WB) off? I mean damn this could work out to their advantage. Millar and Gough could get more characters from DCU and press for the Supergirls Spinoff in return for losing Tom.

[The Incredible Hulk]

can we PLEASE stop posting it as a "rumor" every time some clown on a messagbaord says something?

I mean c'mon, with the CD girl I can at least understand it since she's been on that board forever and all of the oldbies over there vouch for her, but this thing on IESB, the guy has 2 posts and just signed up yesterday.

[avidreader]

Yeah this whole under contract to Smallville is BS I mean who cuts the checks who owns the rights to most everything on Smallville? WB does so why would Millar and Gough want to piss them (as in WB) off? I mean damn this could work out to their advantage. Millar and Gough could get more characters from DCU and press for the Supergirls Spinoff in return for losing Tom.

But where does the CW Network stand in all of this?

[The Incredible Hulk]

But where does the CW Network stand in all of this?

As far as I know the CW is merely just the network the show is aired on. WB controls pretty much all aspects of the show's production although there may be some cost-sharing between them and Viacom (CBS).

[Migu-EL]

[quote=avidreader;12842204]Dont be sad. Its not a big deal. :)
:up:

[Kalleo]

can we PLEASE stop posting it as a "rumor" every time some clown on a messagbaord says something?

I mean c'mon, with the CD girl I can at least understand it since she's been on that board forever and all of the oldbies over there vouch for her, but this thing on IESB, the guy has 2 posts and just signed up yesterday.


I know what ya mean but if this guy is friends with people that know Tom maybe he is just being nice and filling us in. Maybe he is just yanking our chains. We wont know for awhile I bet.

[Kalleo]

But where does the CW Network stand in all of this?

A ratings increase because their Clark Kent is the worlds Superman.

[avidreader]

As far as I know the CW is merely just the network the show is aired on. WB controls pretty much all aspects of the show's production although there may be some cost-sharing between them and Viacom (CBS).

Yeah, but doesnt Warner Bros Television Productions have a contract with the CW Network to air the show for the duration or can WB TV pull the plug any time they want?

[Kalleo]

Yeah, but doesnt Warner Bros Television Productions have a contract with the CW Network to air the show for the duration or can WB TV pull the plug any time they want?

I bet they could hire of fire who ever they want. They own the rights to all the characters so Smallville has to run everything by them first anyways.

[Kalleo]

You guys notice how no one really posts over at CD or iesb? I know its off topic a bit but it just seems weird to me. But I really think it would be awesome if Tom came here and posted what was going on himself.

[musclesforsupes]

I wouldnt be surprised if Robert posts tonight that Welling is back in the running or that we get something offical about him getting the role in the next 48/72 hrs.

[Kalleo]

I wouldnt be surprised if Robert posts tonight that Welling is back in the running or that we get something offical about him getting the role in the next 48/72 hrs.


I still feel like this is a AFC or NFC championship game and I am waiting to find out if my team (Tom for Superman) made it to the Superbowl (JLA). I can almost not hardly wait.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

The story sounds good and I loved Tower Of Babel so those bits taken from it really got me interested. Biel is not my first choice but I would live with it if that meant that Tom was cast as Superman.
I'm still hoping...

[The Incredible Hulk]

Yeah, but doesnt Warner Bros Television Productions have a contract with the CW Network to air the show for the duration or can WB TV pull the plug any time they want?


I'm sure they do. But the key term there is "duration." WB could come up with a million different reasons to not make another season of the show after this current one thus having it's "duration" be the end of this season.

[The Incredible Hulk]

I wouldnt be surprised if Robert posts tonight that Welling is back in the running or that we get something offical about him getting the role in the next 48/72 hrs.

I think you misunderstood him, I believe he meant he's hearing conflicting stories about why negotiations broke off, not about whether he's in or out or not....

[KalKai]

He didn't specify.

[triplet]

He never did reply to the question whether he would specify what he meant...

Hopefully, we'll hear soon either way but in the mean time it gives us something to talk about.

[Kalleo]

Yeah 2801 posts later wanting Tom Welling to be Superman we def have had tons to talk about the ups and downs and all in all.

[TWistim]

Biel is not my first choice but I would live with it if that meant that Tom was cast as Superman.
I'm still hoping...

Ditto. :yay:

[Showtime]

I think you misunderstood him, I believe he meant he's hearing conflicting stories about why negotiations broke off, not about whether he's in or out or not....

I think that is what he was refering too, since his response was to that very question.

[Showtime]

No, that's what Raku meant, it'll probably be a reboot not a sequel...

You realize you're relying on somebody from a messageboard with a handful of posts? I would be guarded.

[musclesforsupes]

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[Showtime]

Heh Heh.

[Kalleo]

You realize you're relying on somebody from a messageboard with a handful of posts? I would be guarded.

Ok so I am grasping at straws too but at this point anything that sounds like the glass is half full is good news to me.

[musclesforsupes]

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I know I am asking to be disappointed for the 4th time with Welling and a supes movie but I agree it is exciting. Here is more from the poster.


Re:Justice league and man of steel updates 2007/09/25 22:11
And FYI the Bat vs Sup has been in the works for years but it was never viable but with the Technology and special effects of today this is now a certainty. Quote this and take it to the bank JL and MOS and DK will all lead to the What insiders call the the biggest superhero movie that could be made Superman vs Batman But with the failure of SR and the dismayed people had with Routh it was pushed back.They need a Blockbuster of a Superman Movie and they all feel that Tom will bring it to the screen thats why there was no hesitation with it being known Tom was there Number one choice and they never intended a 2nd choice...

[Showtime]

Ok so I am grasping at straws too but at this point anything that sounds like the glass is half full is good news to me.

Its fine to be hopeful and optimistic, but all I am saying is, consider the sources.

[Showtime]

More UPDATES


I know I am asking to be disappointed for the 4th time with Welling and a supes movie but I agree it is exciting. Here is more from the poster.


Re:Justice league and man of steel updates 2007/09/25 22:11
And FYI the Bat vs Sup has been in the works for years but it was never viable but with the Technology and special effects of today this is now a certainty. Quote this and take it to the bank JL and MOS and DK will all lead to the What insiders call the the biggest superhero movie that could be made Superman vs Batman But with the failure of SR and the dismayed people had with Routh it was pushed back.They need a Blockbuster of a Superman Movie and they all feel that Tom will bring it to the screen thats why there was no hesitation with it being known Tom was there Number one choice and they never intended a 2nd choice...

If this guy was really an insider he would know that Batman vs Superman was pushed back well before Returns even hit theaters. :cwink:

[Kalleo]

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Man I really dont know what to make of this guy. Once again any glass half full news is fine by me.

[musclesforsupes]

I agree hopefully Robert wont wait another week before some new updates are posted. Truth is though, I dont really believe Robert either now, I did when I watched that G4 special but after all thats gone down, either Robert doesnt really no :( OR the wb is really trying to throw the public off of welling having the role.

[triplet]

You realize you're relying on somebody from a messageboard with a handful of posts? I would be guarded.

I'm not putting a whole lot of confidence into that poster, it could be he has an agenda since most posters on internet forums do, but it's just another piece to the puzzle.

It could be disengenous, certainly, but it gives all reason to hope our guy may wear the tights next summer.

Now, the most recent post of his that Muscles so gleefully posted has me more doubtful of his veracity.

It seems more like he's pushing an agenda, but I guess we'll see eventually who's right and who's wrong.

[Showtime]

I agree hopefully Robert wont wait another week before some new updates are posted. Truth is though, I dont really believe Robert either now, I did when I watched that G4 special but after all thats gone down, either Robert doesnt really no :( OR the wb is really trying to throw the public off of welling having the role.

You forgot the 3rd options, Welling didn't get the part. :csad:

[Showtime]

I'm not putting a whole lot of confidence into that poster, it could be he has an agenda since most posters on internet forums do, but it's just another piece to the puzzle.

It could be disengenous, certainly, but it gives all reason to hope our guy may wear the tights next summer.

Now, the most recent post of his that Muscles so gleefully posted has me more doubtful of his veracity.

It seems more like he's pushing an agenda, but I guess we'll see eventually who's right and who's wrong.

I don't buy it for a second, but Rob is checking on Routh today and what happened with Welling negotiations.

[Lighthouse]

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These insiders really need to take grammar classes. Reading this crap gives me a headache.

[Migu-EL]

WB has yet to announce an actor playing Superman for the JL flick, so there is a chance that Welling could be Supes, even if that chance is small.

[Kalleo]

Its fine to be hopeful and optimistic, but all I am saying is, consider the sources.

I am with you but damn you know we may just look back on this as a where were you when Tom Welling was cast as Superman...

[musclesforsupes]

Robert is online in the IESB forums right now!

[RakuMon]

I'm not putting a whole lot of confidence into that poster, it could be he has an agenda since most posters on internet forums do, but it's just another piece to the puzzle.

It could be disengenous, certainly, but it gives all reason to hope our guy may wear the tights next summer.

Now, the most recent post of his that Muscles so gleefully posted has me more doubtful of his veracity.

It seems more like he's pushing an agenda, but I guess we'll see eventually who's right and who's wrong.

i'm getting the feeling that this mysterious iesb poster is just muscles himself... :csad:

[Serene]

i'm getting the feeling that this mysterious iesb poster is just muscles himself... :csad:

I can't let this story play with my emotions anymore. :(

I'm just going to sit and hope until we know for sure one way or another.

In the meantime... I wonder how much impact THIS (http://movieblog.ugo.com/index.php/movieblog/more/bryan_singer_headed_for_superman_trial/) will have on JL or MOS, and possibly even SV????

[KalKai]

Rob's reply:

"This is what I was told by a WB source (exec), Welling is going to Supes, I asked if this was 100% and I was told that yes. Last week I was told that something went awry with Welling. I don't know if that has anything do with Gough and Millar not being part of the production or if it was money.

I keep being told that one of the biggest problems that WB is having and something that they don't want to deal with is that the studio does not want to have three Supermans, Routh, Welling and new guy.

Some people at WB think that if Routh is brought back for Justice League it will help reinvigorate the solo franchise. A year later after the release of JL, Singer could come back and do his Man of Steel.

Will that happen? Don't know but I did hear that Routh had a meeting with Dan Lin, I don't know what the results of the meeting was.

Can Welling still be cast for Supes? I was told that it is up to his camp."

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Can Welling still be cast for Supes? I was told that it is up to his camp."

If his camp means G & M then rule it out they do not want Welling as Superman on the big screen out of revenge

[Justice Bringer]

Why did Dan Lin meet with Brandon Routh?

Dan Lin had nothing to do with Superman Returns. Dan's the guy behind this JLA project.

Showtime; any ideas?

[triplet]

*crosses fingers*

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Like I said if Wellings camp includes G & M then rule it out they do not want Welling as Superman on the big screen out of revenge

[KBX]

The way its sounds the WB wants Welling or Routh.... They really don't want anyone else, and I agree with them. Don't need a 3rd Superman....

[Mike22]

Rob's reply:

"This is what I was told by a WB source (exec), Welling is going to Supes, I asked if this was 100% and I was told that yes. Last week I was told that something went awry with Welling. I don't know if that has anything do with Gough and Millar not being part of the production or if it was money.

I keep being told that one of the biggest problems that WB is having and something that they don't want to deal with is that the studio does not want to have three Supermans, Routh, Welling and new guy.

Some people at WB think that if Routh is brought back for Justice League it will help reinvigorate the solo franchise. A year later after the release of JL, Singer could come back and do his Man of Steel.

Will that happen? Don't know but I did hear that Routh had a meeting with Dan Lin, I don't know what the results of the meeting was.

Can Welling still be cast for Supes? I was told that it is up to his camp."

Huh.... We knew dan lin had that meeting with Routh from the countingdown lady, but she said that Routh was told that MOS wasn`t happening.
Dan Lin is after all the guy that has been pushing for JLA, so it wouldn`t make sense if he was the one that talked to routh about him being in JL.
I still think it was to Tell Routh that MOS wasn`t happening and that they were going with another superman.


And as for Welling, Even when Robert said that the sources told him that the negotiations were dead. Jayne from countingdown said that they weren`t. So I believe her when she says that Routh wont be in JL.
She seems to have better info than Sanchez even.

[Justice Bringer]

This news is strange. Some of the first news we got was Dan Lin was against Christian and Brandon tied in with this film from the start.

And then the Welling rumors surfaced and things didnt work out.

But now Dan Lin has personally met with Brandon Routh?

Somethings wrong here.


I'd rather they just go with a new actor. With Smallville done by summer 09 and MoS out of the picture; there would be one actor playing the role at that point in time; not 2 or 3.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

That is pissing off to many fans there & that is the LAST thing the WB needs.

[Dark_Lord]

If there rumors are true then at least WB is doing one thing right. They dont want a 3rd actor playing Superman and I agree.It should be either Routh or Welling.

I dont know if Brandon met with Dan Lin but a week, or so, ago there were reports that Brandon met with WB but no one knew with whom or why.

[Prison Mike]

I hope Welling gets the role. I like Routh but his acting is not the greatest and since almost everyone knows about Welling, he seems like the popular choice. I hope Gough and Millar lets him be Superman.

[Mike22]

That is pissing off to many fans there & that is the LAST thing the WB needs.
I was VERY glad to hear that they didn`t want 3 superman, that made my day. Because that means that they don`t want a third superman and would be willing to go the extra mile to get Welling.
Routh after all is associated with Singers movie, that disappointed them, so I seriously doubt that they`d be willing to sign him after the reception he got from the fans.

[Serene]

Rob's reply:

"This is what I was told by a WB source (exec), Welling is going to Supes, I asked if this was 100% and I was told that yes. Last week I was told that something went awry with Welling. I don't know if that has anything do with Gough and Millar not being part of the production or if it was money.

I keep being told that one of the biggest problems that WB is having and something that they don't want to deal with is that the studio does not want to have three Supermans, Routh, Welling and new guy.

Some people at WB think that if Routh is brought back for Justice League it will help reinvigorate the solo franchise. A year later after the release of JL, Singer could come back and do his Man of Steel.

Will that happen? Don't know but I did hear that Routh had a meeting with Dan Lin, I don't know what the results of the meeting was.

Can Welling still be cast for Supes? I was told that it is up to his camp."

I'm VERY confused about the timelines for what he is saying. Is he saying that he was *recently* told that Welling was going to be Supes? Or was that referring to the first time he was told that?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Routh as Superman = very mixed views from fans. No fan can say that hes hated more then hes like. Routh as Superman split the fan base right down the middle & in a way so has Welling. They will never please everybody,

[Justice Bringer]

I dont know if Brandon met with Dan Lin but a week, or so, ago there were reports that Brandon met with WB but no one knew with whom or why.

Yeah. The meeting with Dan Lin is quite perplexing.

Dan Lin isnt tied to MoS or SR at all and doesnt represent that faction. If the meeting had anything to do with the sequel; then why was Brandon asked to the meeting alone?

Theres some mad power play going on here.

[Mike22]

Routh as Superman = very mixed views from fans. No fan can say that hes hated more then hes like. Routh as Superman split the fan base right down the middle & in a way so has Welling. They will never please everybody,

Exsactly, But Welling hasn`t put the suit on yet, and has a pretty big following, and Routh did star in a movie that the WB weren`t happy with and now they`re trying to restart things.
And I just don`t think that getting the actor from the previous franchise is the way to go.
This whole thing has gone on to far, I wish they`d just get to a settlement already.

[Justice Bringer]

Routh as Superman = very mixed views from fans. No fan can say that hes hated more then hes like. Routh as Superman split the fan base right down the middle & in a way so has Welling. They will never please everybody,

On SHH, SH and BT; Brandon dominates over Welling amongst the fans but its likely the opposite on Smallville sites; probably alot of Tom support there.

I didnt expect such a split so soon after he only did one film with about 30 minutes of dialogue... but it happened.

I think the fans could go either way based on how this goes.

[Showtime]

Huh.... We knew dan lin had that meeting with Routh from the countingdown lady, but she said that Routh was told that MOS wasn`t happening.

Rob isn't saying either way, he's saying that it is a possibility he was offered a chance to do JLA.


Dan Lin is after all the guy that has been pushing for JLA, so it wouldn`t make sense if he was the one that talked to routh about him being in JL.
I still think it was to Tell Routh that MOS wasn`t happening and that they were going with another superman.


That could be a possibility, but it also could be possible that they met to discuss his possible future as Superman when the talks broke off with Welling. Who knows at this point. I am guessing it will probably be a totally different Superman, not Routh or Welling.

and as for Welling, Even when Robert said that the sources told him that the negotiations were dead. Jayne from countingdown said that they weren`t. So I believe her when she says that Routh wont be in JL.
She seems to have better info than Sanchez even.

Who is Jayne from Countingdown? You believe her over IESB?

[Prison Mike]

There's a lot of people who HATE the idea of Welling as Superman in the DC Movies thread over here. I guess both actors have created a split among the fans.

[Dark_Lord]

I'm VERY confused about the timelines for what he is saying. Is he saying that he was *recently* told that Welling was going to be Supes? Or was that referring to the first time he was told that?

He's talking about the first time he was told about Welling. If he was saying that he was just told that Welling will be Superman in JL then he would have posted it as news on the main page. Plus before this post of his he said...do you guys wanna know what went wrong with Welling?...or something like that...I dont remember.

Yeah. The meeting with Dan Lin is quite perplexing.

Dan Lin isnt tied to MoS or SR at all and doesnt represent that faction. If the meeting had anything to do with the sequel; then why was Brandon asked to the meeting alone?

Theres some mad power play going on here.

If Routh met with Dan Lin then it was probably about JL. I doubt they'd call him in and tell him "Hey Routh. We're making a JL movie. You wont be in it. Thank you". Not saying that they told him that he will be in it but they probably talked about it. Maybe he told him theres a chance he could be in it or whatever.


The thing is, that until we have an official press release from WB then we wont know for sure. I mean, at first Robert was 100% sure Welling would be playing Supes and now he's saying, he wont.

[zerohour films]

I'm VERY confused about the timelines for what he is saying. Is he saying that he was *recently* told that Welling was going to be Supes? Or was that referring to the first time he was told that?


I think he is recapping what has happened. He was told with 100% certainty that TW was the new Supes.
Then negotiations flell through for some unknown reason.
Routh met with WB (possibly to talk about JLA or just to be told MOS was postponed or dead or possibly for some other reason altogether unrelated).

It took me a second as well, I thought he was saying that he was told again that TW was a go.

At least that's my interpretation.

[Justice Bringer]

In the Superman forums too.

But I can honestly say I dont want Brandon Routh in this if Christian Bale isnt in this.

It just wouldnt be right.

I hope they get someone new.

[mellyM]

There's a lot of people who HATE the idea of Welling as Superman in the DC Movies thread over here. I guess both actors have created a split among the fans.
I dont really think fans online count as the majority of the fanbase, I just don't think Routh resonated with the general public as Superman, but if he's in JLA, I don't have a problem with it, I won't see it, but if not Tom, then it makes sense to go with someone they've already established as Superman

[KalKai]

SH & BT are known for being pro-SR/Singer/Routh, everybody knows that. Nobody kisses ass like they do lol.

Who is Jayne from Countingdown? You believe her over IESB?

Uh? Rob has said that Welling was "completely out of the running" last week for whatever reason, now today he's saying that it's up to his camp, which is what Jayne from CD has essentially been saying all along.

[Mike22]

[quote=Showtime029;12843904]Rob isn't saying either way, he's saying that it is a possibility he was offered a chance to do JLA.
I know, I was just expessing my own opinion on this matter.
That could be a possibility, but it also could be possible that they met to discuss his possible future as Superman when the talks broke off with Welling. Who knows at this point. I am guessing it will probably be a totally different Superman, not Routh or Welling.Who is Jayne from Countingdown? You believe her over IESB?
Possible... But in all honesty, Sanchez told us a few days back that the negotiations with Welling were dead, and that he was out of the running for superman..
Jayne from Countingdown.com said that it was true that Welling didn`t sign, but that the negotiations were still going, even though the chance for Welling to be in this movie was considerably smaller, she was assured that a last minute deal was very possible.
And NOW Sanchez shows up saying that the negotiations aren`t dead after all.
So yeah, I believe Jayne quite a bit because she keeps saying things that are a head of what Sanchez is reporting.
I just think they have different sources.
I`m glad to hear that welling is still in the running.
I sincerely hope he gets the part.

[Mike22]

[quote=KalKai;12843942]SH & BT are known for being pro-SR/Singer/Routh, everybody knows that. Nobody kisses ass like they do lol.
Bluetights is VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY PRO singer and Routh.
Uh? Rob has said that Welling was "completely out of the running" last week for whatever reason, now today he's saying that it's up to his camp, which is what Jayne from CD has essentially been saying all along.
Exactly, she came with this info way before Sanchez was told anything about this.

[Justice Bringer]

If Routh met with Dan Lin then it was probably about JL. I doubt they'd call him in and tell him "Hey Routh. We're making a JL movie. You wont be in it. Thank you". Not saying that they told him that he will be in it but they probably talked about it. Maybe he told him theres a chance he could be in it or whatever..

Yeah.

Rob on IESB also had said earlier it was just 2 execs pushing JLA (Lin and Rubinov) with everyone else on board for S:MoS.

So it seems so strange that someone totally unconnected to SR/MoS would meet with Brandon.

Months ago there wasnt a decision reached regarding MoS or JLA (both were in scripting/pitching stages) so I can understand why they wouldnt want Brandon involved in JLA at that point.

But now that MoS is on the backburner? I dont know..

I dont like it.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

& I still say if it is up to Wellings camp they seem HELL BENT on him NOT getting the role so if they have the final say then do not expect Welling in this movie

[Dark_Lord]

I dont really think fans online count as the majority of the fanbase, I just don't think Routh resonated with the general public as Superman, but if he's in JLA, I don't have a problem with it, I won't see it, but if not Tom, then it makes sense to go with someone they've already established as Superman

I think the general public did like Routh as Superman. I believe it were some of the fans that didnt like him. I've asked lots of people (not on the net) what they tought of SR and whether they liked it or not, everyone would tell me "The new guy was great".

Like I said in my previous post, we need an official press release from WB.

[KalKai]

JB Rob has just said that Dan Lin is in charge of MoS.

[Justice Bringer]

SH & BT are known for being pro-SR/Singer/Routh, everybody knows that. Nobody kisses ass like they do lol.

Yeah apparently SHH as well. Brandon dominates in all the polls here.


Though the opposite is likely true on K-site with all the Tom support. Smallville fans are a different beast.

I can understand the split between both of them.

[Justice Bringer]

JB Rob has just said that Dan Lin is in charge of MoS.

Are you serious? He was against MoS from the start.

He was the sole driving force behind this JL project as an alternative to doing MoS pre-strike.

Why would he be in charge of the opposite faction? I thought the execs behind MoS are the same people from SR.

[TWistim]

I think the general public did like Routh as Superman. I believe it were some of the fans that didnt like him. I've asked lots of people (not on the net) what they tought of SR and whether they liked it or not, everyone would tell me "The new guy was great".

Like I said in my previous post, we need an official press release from WB.

At the time that SR came out, I had never heard of SV or Tom Welling so I was not responding out of any loyalty other than to the character of Superman but I did not like SR and was not impressed with Routh.

Back on topic, Jayne also said that Welling was WB's #1 choice. Does Tom's camp refer to SV producers or his agents?

[Dark_Lord]

Are you serious? He was against MoS from the start.

He was the sole driving force behind this JL project as an alternative to doing MoS pre-strike.

Why would he be in charge of the opposite faction? I thought the execs behind MoS are the same people from SR.

Robert said Dan Lin is ALSO in charge of MoS. So, he could be in charge of both? I dont know.

[KalKai]

Neither excludes the other.

[Justice Bringer]

Well he is senior VP so I think hes one of the people who are in charge of all these projects as a whole.

I think in the case of MoS; there are others involved.

But regardless, that meeting could have been about anything, hes right.

It could have been about mos, jla.. or Routh's basketball playing =/

[joeycortes611]

Like I said before Welling is still in the run for JLA. There where some discussion between JLA group and the Smallville group about how they where going to make it work but since they need the JLA movie to keep moving, they have put that discussion for later and have move along with other casting procedures and production schedule. As of now nothing with Tom is for sure but what they say is true they don't want 3 supermen.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I guess they do not Welling that bad if they are going to hold off the dealings. They should secure him ASAP because of Smallville.

[Showtime]

I throw my hands in there air on this one, I really don't know what to think or believe anymore.

[avidreader]

Like I said before Welling is still in the run for JLA. There where some discussion between JLA group and the Smallville group about how they where going to make it work but since they need the JLA movie to keep moving, they have put that discussion for later and have move along with other casting procedures and production schedule. As of now nothing with Tom is for sure but what they say is true they don't want 3 supermen.

With the Season 7 Premiere only two days a way, this is all a little too much for me. :O


:woot:

[triplet]

I think hiring a third superman would be problematic, but I'm not sure most people had a problem with Routh.

I was talking to someone at work yesterday who saw my Batman, Wonder Woman and Superman dolls.... err.... action figures ;) and she said she was looking forward to the JLA film.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2749/bigthree461x346xn1.jpg

She was under the impression it was being filmed now but when I told her Tom was being considered she asked why not "that guy" who was in the Superman movie last year?

*shrug*

She thought Routh was cute and he did a good job.

I guess your mileage may very well vary on that point, but I think it's clear hiring a third Superman would probably be problematic.

I know people who asked why Tom wasn't in SR when it came out, if they get a new guy people will be asking why Tom or Brandon aren't in JLA....

If they can't (or won't) use Routh, they will almost be forced to use Tom.

I hope he takes it, if it's true that the ball is now in his court.

*crosses fingers*

[bootspark]

read between the lines.....:ninja:

JackMercy???

[mellyM]

I think the general public did like Routh as Superman. I believe it were some of the fans that didnt like him. I've asked lots of people (not on the net) what they tought of SR and whether they liked it or not, everyone would tell me "The new guy was great".

Like I said in my previous post, we need an official press release from WB.

I had a different experience, either they thought he was "Ok" or they didn't care, I'm not saying people thought he was terrible, I just didn't get a sense of strong opinions about him one way or the other. I guess there's no way to really know. Regardless I don't think changing Superman at this point is going to be a big deal to anyone. and I honestly don't care anymore if Tom gets it, SV is just a couple of days away, and this is all giving me a headache:)

[The Joker_1000]

We need someone new for the role instead of getting someone who has already had the role or who currently has the role.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Let me clear up a few things I've been reading here:

1. Welling's "camp" would not include Millar and Gough. The term "camp" in hollywood refers to agents, publicists, financial advisers, etc. These would be all people who rep Tom, not people from Smallville.

2. Dan Lin is the Senior VP of Production for WB. While he was one of the voices at WB for a JLA film and is leading the project, technically he has dominion over everything they do there, so in a way he DOES have some say about what would go on with a potential sequel to Singer's film so in that regard Sanchez is correct.

[TWistim]

Thank you, Hulk. I was thinking that Tom's camp might mean his agents and those who looked out for his best interests. Thanks for clearing that up.

[KalKai]

You can't get anymore Superman than this:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8189/ssrs8.gif http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9264/hvir7.gif

You just can't.. lol.

[KalKai]

Guess what they're using in JLA to make a certain character go in bad boy mode..

Red Kryptonite

[The Joker_1000]

Ah, interesting.

[ZIPBAGS]

Just my two cents. After Sanchez said that the Welling deal was dead. I read the Jayne post at Countingdown. So I emailed Sanchez and asked if he knew what Jayne was talking about? He emailed me back asking for a link to countingdown.

Re:Routh. I disliked SR. Not because of Routh. Just because I hated the idea of a sequel to a 30yr old movie. And especially the use of the kid. I still think the Airplane scene was awesome and would have been perfect for the intro to Supes if they did the movie like Batman Begins.

[Thunder Emperor]

You can't get anymore Superman than this:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8189/ssrs8.gif http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9264/hvir7.gif

You just can't.. lol.

where is that from?

[Serene]

where is that from?

cwtv.com

Director's cuts from this week's premiere. :D

[The Incredible Hulk]

Guess what they're using in JLA to make a certain character go in bad boy mode..

Red Kryptonite

Where did you see that? :confused: Thats not what they used in the comic

[KalKai]

Where did you see that? :confused: Thats not what they used in the comic

Our friend Rob.

[The Incredible Hulk]

thats dumb, if they're using the OMAC's and Brother Eye they dont need Red K to make Superman go bad...

[Serene]

thats dumb, if they're using the OMAC's and Brother Eye they dont need Red K to make Superman go bad...

I thought that maybe he didn't mean Red K literally, rather he was just talking about Supes going rogue.

I dunno though.. I think adding a bit of Red K makes this story a little juicier in the speculation department. ;)

[Mike22]

Let me clear up a few things I've been reading here:

1. Welling's "camp" would not include Millar and Gough. The term "camp" in hollywood refers to agents, publicists, financial advisers, etc. These would be all people who rep Tom, not people from Smallville.

2. Dan Lin is the Senior VP of Production for WB. While he was one of the voices at WB for a JLA film and is leading the project, technically he has dominion over everything they do there, so in a way he DOES have some say about what would go on with a potential sequel to Singer's film so in that regard Sanchez is correct.

I actually thought that camp was meant referring to the producers. Glad as hell I`m wrong, hehe.

And I actually think that if it`s up to Toms camp, than I think that they`re gonna advise to do this movie because it`s such a career booster and he may never get a chance like this again.
This is great news imo.

[Thunder Emperor]

cwtv.com

Director's cuts from this week's premiere. :D

sweet. God please let them cast this guy

[Captain Kirk]

:o Throw my vote in with the Welling crowd. I would just love to see the guy finally become Superman. It would actually give Smallville more meaning. I wanted them to do that from the beginning.:woot:

[Thunder Emperor]

You can't get anymore Superman than this:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8189/ssrs8.gif http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9264/hvir7.gif

You just can't.. lol.

where can i view the directors cut?

[mellyM]

where can i view the directors cut?
www.cwtv.com/video just click on the director's cut tab, its the first 2

[RakuMon]

Where did you see that? :confused: Thats not what they used in the comic

Actually, in the "Tower of Babel", Batman's files on Superman suggested using red K. Except, instead of making him rogue, the Red K causes his powers to go haywire.

[The Joker_1000]

I much like the idea of him becoming a villain when exposed to Red K.

[The Joker_1000]

Ya know, sometimes I think about Tom Welling & I get pissed off.

[bootspark]

Ya know, sometimes I think about Tom Welling & I get pissed off.

uhhhhh.......why?

[The Joker_1000]

Lol, it may sound weird but I'm creating this character that I would love him to portray but he might be a bit too old by the time I get the character published & pattened & by the time he gains a lot of popularity.

[Zing79]

Now IESB is reporting its up to Welling's camp -- I swear someone could have suggested awhile ago that no matter what WB wanted Welling probably wasn't going to want to have anything to do with this role? Now if only I could remember who that person was LOL

I also see based on these little nuggets of info we're going to hold out hope just like we all did in 2004 after all the info was coming out that it wasn't going to happen?? We should probably get over the fact Welling won't be in JLA, and that there will probably be yet another new Superman kicking around.

And yes, it's certainly a kick in the junk to witness a new Superman being cast that is exactly in the same age range as Welling; who happens to have the qualities they're searching for (based on current casting reports).

Life sucks -- people rarely care what others think when money is involved, and we have to move on.

[The Joker_1000]

I really don't mind someone new being cast as Superman, it gives someone else a chance to portray Supes.

[triplet]

You can't get anymore Superman than this:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8189/ssrs8.gif http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9264/hvir7.gif

You just can't.. lol.

:super: :supes:

*sigh*

Awesome.

:up:

Why isn't it thursday yet?

Oh, and Kal... if you could hook me up with a real deal of that second one after the show airs on Thursday, I will love you forever.

I think I've found my new icon.

:D

:super:

[ZIPBAGS]

Now IESB is reporting its up to Welling's camp -- I swear someone could have suggested awhile ago that no matter what WB wanted Welling probably wasn't going to want to have anything to do with this role? Now if only I could remember who that person was LOL.

Oy veh! :whatever:

If true. C'mon Tom last I checked the Fog 2 and Cheaper By the Dozen 3 have been put on hold. :cwink:

[TWistim]

Now IESB is reporting its up to Welling's camp -- I swear someone could have suggested awhile ago that no matter what WB wanted Welling probably wasn't going to want to have anything to do with this role? Now if only I could remember who that person was LOL

I also see based on these little nuggets of info we're going to hold out hope just like we all did in 2004 after all the info was coming out that it wasn't going to happen?? We should probably get over the fact Welling won't be in JLA, and that there will probably be yet another new Superman kicking around.

And yes, it's certainly a kick in the junk to witness a new Superman being cast that is exactly in the same age range as Welling; who happens to have the qualities they're searching for (based on current casting reports).

Life sucks -- people rarely care what others think when money is involved, and we have to move on.

Spoilsport!:p

[The Joker_1000]

:super: :supes:

*sigh*

Awesome.

:up:

Why isn't it thursday yet?

I wish I could have Tom portray my character. If not, I'd definitely try to go with Brandon Routh.

[ZIPBAGS]

You have to laugh. You see all of these struggling actors dream of a big Hollywood tv or movie role. Then when they get it or offered it. They become disinterested. Jonathan Frakes had the best attitude regarding his role as Commander Riker on Star Trek. He was being interviewed about how long he would stay with the show. He said something to the effect. "I would stay as long as they want me. Where in Hollywood are you almost guaranteed a job and paycheck."

[The Incredible Hulk]

^ and ironically Frakes was the rumored director for SR before they went out and got Singer

[triplet]

Interesting, Robert drops hints today that maybe that Tom isn't as out as he'd said last week and the film's stock price took a big jump over on HSX (the virtual hollywood stock exchange).

http://movies.hsx.com/servlet/SecurityDetail?symbol=JLEAG

My portfolio went up nearly 200k just today because of that. I wish it was real money.

Oh, well....

;) :D

But do hollywood types notice stuff like that?

I don't even know.

[TheLongestDay]

NOW THAT'S SUPERMAN!
IF George Miller is as dumb as Singer to not cast Welling because he wants to hire his own face then I will skip JLA.
It's a shame that the WB/CW won't give the fans what they want, and have asked for now for a good few years.

It all depends on if Tom actually wants to be Superman,either way id be happy with routh or welling in JLA...but if they use lex it has to be rosenbaum if wellings in-itd be too weird having Tom as superman and someone like billy Zane or something for lex

[RakuMon]

I don't want to get my hopes up either, but I can't help it. I mean, if Tom's not in the movie, I'll probably end up watching JLA anyway, just like I watched SR. But if they announce his involvement, I'll actually be excited to see it. Another benefit by casting Tom? They don't have to give him months and months of extra training and weightlifting sessions to beef him up for the role. If cast, he can go right into filming. Plus, after seven years on Smallville, he's got plenty of experience with FX and wire work. It's a win-win to cast him. So hurry up WB!

[Kalleo]

Yeah I am so waiting to hear the news Tom is or is not def in JLA.

[triplet]

You can't get anymore Superman than this:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9264/hvir7.gif

You just can't.. lol.

You know, every time I come into this thread I watch this clip...

And I can't stop watching it.

*sigh*

He's so :super: in it....

:heart: :heart: :heart:

[DvilDog]

Now granted most of you may not remember me because I prefer to read over posting, but if any of you actually do remember me then you know that I love Smallville but I also loved SR. If I had my choice in the matter you can bet that I would choose Welling for the this JLA movie. But I am also very upset at the fact that MOS isnt going forward now or maybe ever. Now I personally love the idea of Tom slipping into the role of Supes, and I always have but he has pretty much stated before that he doesnt want it. Maybe thats changed. But honestly i am really torn because as much as i want to see Tom in the suit, i really liked Brandon as Superman too!! Now maybe my rambling has a point or maybe not. I guess basically the only way I wont be happy is if they choose yet another guy to play superman. Its Tom or Brandon for me. And while it may not matter much to the WB what one person thinks, I can tell you this if they choose a new guy to play Superman for JLA I wont go see it, I wont even take the time to bootleg it. End of rant/incoherrent babbling.

[musclesforsupes]

I throw my hands in there air on this one, I really don't know what to think or believe anymore.



I have to agree with Showtime, I just read the latest IESB updates, and the new poster still says there is a chance, I dont understand what Robert is talking about anymore sounds like he is getting his "info" from the poster at Countingdown.com who sounds legit. Maybe Tom is cast already for Supes and the WB is just trying to keep it tight lip till next year, I have no idea about this movie anymore. I am starting to think the movie shouldnt be rushed like this, let SVille finish and in 09 make JLA with Welling. Again this has been very confusing since Robert let the cat out of the bag about welling, I really REALLY wish he would have kept quiet about it till we knew more about his situation.

[DvilDog]

I really REALLY wish he would have kept quiet about it till we knew more about his situation.

Wouldnt have mattered we would have still speculated and been blindly optimistic and hoping Welling would get the part. We would still be going back and forth as to reasons why WB would give it and why they wouldnt. So either way it is what it is lol.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I really REALLY wish he would have kept quiet about it till we knew more about his situation.

If Robert said nothing then someone else would have & someone did say it was a possibility LONG BEFORE ROBERT DID & besides Robert was NOT the first to talk about Welling as Superman in JL

[RakuMon]

If Robert said nothing then someone else would have & someone did say it was a possibility LONG BEFORE ROBERT DID & besides Robert was NOT the first to talk about Welling as Superman in JL

True. Tom's name has been connected since news of a JLA script broke back in February. For instance take this article from MSN dated 2/27/07: http://movies.msn.com/movies/hitlist/02-27-07_4?GT1=7701&silentchk=1&

[Kalleo]

Well I just for one hope WB stops yanking us around and releases who will be Superman. The rest of the cast well I can live with but damn if I cant wait to find out if Tom got it or not.

[AgentPat]

Well, THIS thread has been busy. :D

Lots and LOTS to comment on, but I've gotta catch up with the last five days and have to fly. But Raku's post sums it up perfectly:

I don't want to get my hopes up either, but I can't help it. I mean, if Tom's not in the movie, I'll probably end up watching JLA anyway, just like I watched SR. But if they announce his involvement, I'll actually be excited to see it.I read the script synop and it sounds fab. I've got no issues with Biel as WW, whatever version of Green Lantern they choose to use, or if Aquaman is or isn't in the film. Everything sounds fine so far.

But the difference between this :) and this http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/crazyhappy.gif for me hinges on Welling being in the flick.

I really hope they can make it work, and getting James Marsters to fill in on SV for a few weeks *cough* is a GREAT start!!!!

[RakuMon]

I really hope they can make it work, and getting James Marsters to fill in on SV for a few weeks *cough* is a GREAT start!!!!

Wait, what does Marsters' return have to do with Tom in JL? :huh:

[avidreader]

I really hope they can make it work, and getting James Marsters to fill in on SV for a few weeks *cough* is a GREAT start!!!!

Heh!! :wow: You think that's what was meant by Jack's comments. Must admit I didnt read between the lines on that one.

[Kalleo]

Heh!! :wow: You think that's what was meant by Jack's comments. Must admit I didnt read between the lines on that one.

I wish that was the reason but I think that his return was planned all the long.

[avidreader]

I wish that was the reason but I think that his return was planned all the long.

Yeah, and in fact those episodes with Brainiac would be airing in January, not shooting. So his stint would be almost done and not coinciding with a proposed absence by TW. I could be looking at this in a completely wrong direction though. :O

[Bruce_Wayne29]

NOW THAT'S SUPERMAN!
IF George Miller is as dumb as Singer to not cast Welling because he wants to hire his own face then I will skip JLA.
It's a shame that the WB/CW won't give the fans what they want, and have asked for now for a good few years.


I agree with you and hopefully Gough and Millar won't have any say in this or I'll be extremely pissed off. If they want a cut, just present WB with your pitch already. Don't ruin the dreams of so many fans and the chance of a lifetime for Tom !

[Kalleo]

My buddy just sent me this http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1678720/ wanting to know if this was also Tom Welling. I laughed at him because Matt Dallas is not another stage name for Tom but I could after a second take see some resemblance.

[avidreader]

I agree with you and hopefully Gough and Millar won't have any say in this or I'll be extremely pissed off. If they want a cut, just present WB with your pitch already. Don't ruin the dreams of so many fans and the chance of a lifetime for Tom !

Just throwing something completely different out there, but I remember years ago after Roger Moore retired as James Bond, there was an Aussie guy who was tipped to take on the role, his name escapes me at the moment but it was Andrew something....

Anyway the deal was that they wanted him to sign a contract where he was ONLY allowed to make Bond movies. He was not permitted to make any other movies over the term of his 10 year contract. Consequently, he said screw the deal and he never became Bond.

My point is, that there could be more to this than just money, Exec credits and time issues.

[triplet]

Heh!! :wow: You think that's what was meant by Jack's comments. Must admit I didnt read between the lines on that one.

Okay, what did Jack say on the other thread?

:confused:

I'm not reading the episode threads....

[Pickle-El]

True. Tom's name has been connected since news of a JLA script broke back in February. For instance take this article from MSN dated 2/27/07: http://movies.msn.com/movies/hitlist/02-27-07_4?GT1=7701&silentchk=1&

Wasn't this the only blurb to mention Tom until IESB?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Well, THIS thread has been busy. :D

Lots and LOTS to comment on, but I've gotta catch up with the last five days and have to fly. But Raku's post sums it up perfectly:

I read the script synop and it sounds fab. I've got no issues with Biel as WW, whatever version of Green Lantern they choose to use, or if Aquaman is or isn't in the film. Everything sounds fine so far.

But the difference between this :) and this http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/crazyhappy.gif for me hinges on Welling being in the flick.

I really hope they can make it work, and getting James Marsters to fill in on SV for a few weeks *cough* is a GREAT start!!!!

Where the hell did Jack say that :huh:

[Gmanofsteel]

My buddy just sent me this http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1678720/ wanting to know if this was also Tom Welling. I laughed at him because Matt Dallas is not another stage name for Tom but I could after a second take see some resemblance.

Dosn't look a thing like him, at least not to me :)

[Kalleo]

Dosn't look a thing like him, at least not to me :)

I dont think so either best case I could see him looking like a kid brother.

[Kalleo]

Where the hell did Jack say that :huh:

This seems like a couple things mashed together trying to become one.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

This seems like a couple things mashed together trying to become one.

What are the source quotes ?

[Kalleo]

Is there a posting limit at IESB and countingdown? I mean for them to say they are the best no one really posts there are talks things over there. Not to mention the forums are tough to look at.

[triplet]

Where the hell did Jack say that :huh:

No one answered my query, so I looked...

the only thing he said about that was over here:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=12848481#post12848481

I think the Mars man is only in one Torchwood ep...

So... Smallville's got the better of him...

:word:

I don't get where anyone gets because James is returning it'll allow Tom to do JLA....

:confused:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I don't get where anyone gets because James is returning it'll allow Tom to do JLA

Indeed

[The Joker_1000]

Yeah I am so waiting to hear the news Tom is or is not def in JLA.


I seriously doubt he'll be cast. As I've said we should get someone new for the role.

[TheLongestDay]

that would mean 3 supermen around (and yes i count welling)...just too weird having 3 different live actions versions all at once

[KalKai]

I seriously doubt he'll be cast. As I've said we should get someone new for the role.

The WB is against that idea.

[AgentPat]

Wait, what does Marsters' return have to do with Tom in JL? :huh:Heh!! :wow: You think that's what was meant by Jack's comments. Must admit I didn't read between the lines on that one.Okay, what did Jack say on the other thread?Where the hell did Jack say that :huh:CRIKEY!!! How rumors get started. ^ Right here, folks. :p

It was just a speculation, completely on MY part. Yes, Marster's return has been planned all along. Maybe they even knew exactly how many episodes they needed him and when said eps would air. I'm just saying that IF Welling had to bugger off for a couple of weeks, it is my opinion that Marsters would be a wonderful way to help carry the rest of the cast, ESPECIALLY if the goal is to spin-off Supergirl. Think about it. Y'all know how I feel about Superskirt, not to mention Buffy, yet I WOULD watch episodes centered around Kara and Brainiac because Marsters is just THAT good.

Is that what they're doing? Pfft... damned the hell if I know LOL. It sounds like a good plan though, no?

Poor Jack. I got everybody thinking he was dropping hints.... :word:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Lana & Lex & Lionel knows that Fine is evil & not human so how would that work if Fine carried this show :huh:

[AgentPat]

Lana & Lex & Lionel knows that Fine is evil & not human so how would that work if Fine carried this show :huh:I'm not a writer, but there are a thousand different ways to make it work. Of that, I'm sure.

Marsters was simply the cat's meow as Brainiac. I hope G&M, Warners and CW realize that. He's a "super villain" of alien origin. Hello? LOL! That poop dunt just grow on trees - even in feature films. :p

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I would think that if they would need someone to bring in while Tom & Clark is away to help out Kara & Smallville it would be "wait for it" Oliver ?

[mellyM]

I'm not a writer, but there are a thousand different ways to make it work. Of that, I'm sure.

Marsters was simply the cat's meow as Brainiac. I hope G&M, Warners and CW realize that. He's a "super villain" of alien origin. Hello? LOL! That poop dunt just grow on trees - even in feature films. :p

They need to find a way for Tom to not miss an ep ,I don't think JM can carry Smallville, no slight against him, but a show about a hero can't have a villain be its focus, if there's no Clark, I sure wouldn't watch it.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If Clark were to "disappear" for a while if Tom were to do Justice League then while Clark is away the "Justice League" can come out to play & Metropolis & Smallville are already famaliar with the Green Arrow.

[TheLongestDay]

They need to find a way for Tom to not miss an ep ,I don't think JM can carry Smallville, no slight against him, but a show about a hero can't have a villain be its focus, if there's no Clark, I sure wouldn't watch it.

unless he goes missing for some reason-or someone has him captive-so oliver comes back and rallies up the league and they take over for a few episodes lead by supergirl and Ollie (possible tension?) and go on a quest to save clark

[OobeDoobBenubi]

How awesome would it be if Clark got trapped in The Phantom Zone again & the Zoners in the Zone waited & were prepared for the day for Clark to come back & they capture him making sure he does not get out & when the time comes Kara & Martian Manhunter & the Justice League old & new members go into The Phantom Zone to save Clark & kick some Phantom ass

[KalKai]

Tom CANNOT miss any episode, it's ridiculous even thinking about it. The most they could do for him is to get him a little less screen time.

[TheLongestDay]

How awesome would it be if Clark got trapped in The Phantom Zone again & the Zoners in the Zone waited & were prepared for the day for Clark to come back & they capture him making sure he does not get out & when the time comes Kara & Martian Manhunter & the Justice League old & new members go into The Phantom Zone to save Clark & kick some Phantom ass

i like it!

[OobeDoobBenubi]

More rumors from a random poster at AICN

http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/34186#comment_1701544

I leaked all of this yesterday, flame away if you must but those who recall (Abin Sur?) will hopefully vouch for my authenticity. It looks like my contact was being straight with me then in which case I can tell you with pretty much 100% certainty that the Supes casting is between only two people, noone else is in or will be under consideration. I was originally told that WB were going with Eddie Cibrian, a TV actor who I have not seen anything of, but apparantly "looks the part" for the role of Supes. But I can confirm that the only two guys now in the running are in fact Routh (who is more than likely due to be confirmed late next month) or yep, him again, Tom Welling. Routh is keen to keep his role in the movieverse, welling has a few issues that need to be ironed out before he can accept the role. Cibrian is no longer being considered, don't knwo why, anyone with any info on this please let me know. No loss either way So there you go either we get a repeat performance from Routh (which I really do think how this will land) or get to see Welling fly off into the new territory. As before tak from this what you will.

[KalKai]

Nothing new lol.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Nothing new lol.

Same **** different day. But hey its good that real or not rumors keep on coming & coming. It shows that something is happening behind the scenes at the WB for all of this to keep on coming.

[TheLongestDay]

Same **** different day. But hey its good that real or not rumors keep on coming & coming. It shows that something is happening behind the scenes at the WB for all of this to keep on coming.

i want leaked costume designs dammit!:oldrazz:

[Serene]

i want leaked costume designs dammit!:oldrazz:

Costumes? Cart? Horse? :p

I want to know who's going to be WEARING those costumes first. After that I'll either care a great deal, or perhaps not at all...

[AgentPat]

Tom CANNOT miss any episode, it's ridiculous even thinking about it. The most they could do for him is to get him a little less screen time.While I totally agree in principle - there's no POINT to SV w/o Clark Kent, IMHO - I as a fan am willing to make concessions for a greater good LOL. And this isn't w/o precedent. The rumor going into S4 (remember Rob Merritt?) was that it would end with all characters in flux so they had options going into S5. As it turned out, S4 ended exactly how Rob said it would, and it was the only season to end as such. IOW, it wasn't a lucky guess.

C'mon folks. If we've learned anything after all these years, it's that Warners (et al) want OPTIONS. They don't paint themselves into a corner. I watch SV for one reason and one reason only: to see the story of CLARK KENT.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/but.gif

I'm okay with losing Tom Welling from a few episodes of SV if that's what it takes to get him into Justice League. As it is now, Clark is already being marginalized out the wazoo. That in itself is a tragedy. But if it gets him to JL, at least it's for a good cause, so I'm okay with it. The flipside is they're gonna marginalize Clark anyway just to spin-off SuperSkirt, and THAT has me fuming at the mere thought. :cmad: If I could rationalize it for a "greater good" however, that would give me solace.

And if... that other guy is cast... I'm gonna hurl. 'Nuf said. :dry:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

And if... that other guy is cast... I'm gonna hurl. 'Nuf said. :dry:

I could go either way I know I wont loose sleep over who is cast. I know I wouldnt mind the Invasion guy being casted but he was probably someone they wanted before they came to the conclusion that its stupid having 3 Superman running around.

[The Joker_1000]

Seriously, I'm not against Welling being cast but someone else should be.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Seriously, I'm not against Welling being cast but someone else should be.

For once most can agree that the WB has the right idea (shocking I know) that there should not be three Supermen running around :o

[Spirited Away]

Smallville could very easily have Clark trapped in the Phantom Zone in like Episode 16 or 17, with the final batch of episodes entirely based on Kara first defeating the villains who trapped him, and then trying to get him out with the JLA.

[AgentPat]

I could go either way I know I wont loose sleep over who is cast. I know I wouldn't mind the Invasion guy being casted but he was probably someone they wanted before they came to the conclusion that its stupid having 3 Superman running around.Invasion guy? Was Routh in that show? :o

Dudes (and dudettes), I want to see Welling as Supes, BADLY. Duh! But if that falls through yet freakin' again, I'm mentally prepared for any OTHER actor in the role with one exception. And should that exception come to pass, I will NOT bother seeing the film. Ever. I dislike him that much. Yeah. Really.

Moving on.....

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Invasion guy?

lol no according to that recent AICN post the WB originally wanted this guy Eddie Cibrian

http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/90/78/0000009078_20060920160455.jpg

Who was in Invasion for Supes before the WB went gaga for Welling or Routh for Justice League

[AgentPat]

lol no according to that recent AICN post the WB originally wanted this guy Eddie Cibrian...I was being facetious. I want Welling, but I'm pretty much open to just about anybody with one exception.

I understand Warners is against having three Supermen, and that's a smart move. But if there's some insurmountable impasse preventing Welling from accepting the role - an offer he allegedly wants - I would MUCH rather see a third Superman for JLA. That's the point I was trying to make. :)

[Showtime]

Who in the blue hell is Eddie Cibrian?

[AgentPat]

Who in the blue hell is Eddie Cibrian?The name has been bandied about for the last three years. He came up often during the '04 casting wars. I never looked into him.

[Showtime]

He has an extensive resume, mostly television. Routh or Welling for me over that dude.

[TheLongestDay]

http://wetmen.provocateuse.com/images/photos/eddie_cibrian_02.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/90/86/0000009086_20060920160516.jpg
:huh::huh::huh:
....naaaaaah,welling or routh please

[AgentPat]

He has an extensive resume, mostly television. Routh or Welling for me over that dude.Welling over 'em all for me.

JL is a film that will be marketed to the action-oriented Transformers' crowd, one that wants their hair blown back by popcorn entertainment in the form of off the hook CGI and beautiful people with sexy bods. JL has the potential to do that, but casting is key. Personally, I want to see a jaw dropping Superman, and only Welling has done that for me recently. I've seen pictures of Biel and Reynolds, and I think they've got what it takes. I don't know who Warners has in mind for Batman. But I really want this cast to be earth shattering.

[Wargod]

He has an extensive resume, mostly television. Routh or Welling for me over that dude.


Rumor has that he was considered for SR.

[The Incredible Hulk]

what's all this talk of 3 Superman running around? By the time JLA is out, Smallville will be over.

And if movie Supes were to be recast for someone other than Welling or Routh, Routh wont exactly be "running around" anywhere as Superman anymore, he'll pretty much be done as Superman if that happens, since if JLA is a smash the new guy would likely take over, and if it bombs, WB will be so gun-shy they wont touch the character for another decade.

[TheLongestDay]

what all this talk of 3 Superman running around? By the time JLA is out, Smallville will be over.

And if movie Supes were to be recast for someone other than Welling or Routh, Routh wont exactly be "running around" anywhere as Superman anymore, he'll pretty much be done as Superman if that happens, since if JLA is a smash the new guy would likely take over, and if it bombs, WB will be so gun-shy they wont touch the character for another decade.

Id hate for that to happen...i waited long enough for Superman Returns (which may have gone towards me not liking it much) but now its started i wouldnt want the franchise to die again

[Prison Mike]

I just want the rumors to be finished and see an official statement about the casting!

[AgentPat]

I just want the rumors to be finished and see an official statement about the casting!Aye-freakin'-men! :up: With an official announcement, at least we'll all know where we stand and what to expect.

Story and FX are important, but I truly believe casting is the single most important thing in any film of this kind. Anybody with half a brain and one eye would see that. Reference all of the fan-casting threads on boards like these.

[The Incredible Hulk]

More rumors from a random poster at AICN

http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/34186#comment_1701544

I leaked all of this yesterday, flame away if you must but those who recall (Abin Sur?) will hopefully vouch for my authenticity. It looks like my contact was being straight with me then in which case I can tell you with pretty much 100% certainty that the Supes casting is between only two people, noone else is in or will be under consideration. I was originally told that WB were going with Eddie Cibrian, a TV actor who I have not seen anything of, but apparantly "looks the part" for the role of Supes. But I can confirm that the only two guys now in the running are in fact Routh (who is more than likely due to be confirmed late next month) or yep, him again, Tom Welling. Routh is keen to keep his role in the movieverse, welling has a few issues that need to be ironed out before he can accept the role. Cibrian is no longer being considered, don't knwo why, anyone with any info on this please let me know. No loss either way So there you go either we get a repeat performance from Routh (which I really do think how this will land) or get to see Welling fly off into the new territory. As before tak from this what you will.

If any real website gets a hold of this and confirms that it's between these two, prepare for World War III. I'll resign my modship over at BT as I have no desire to mediate what's going to ensue. :)

Although honestly, I dont think Tom will do the movie and I cant see Dan Lin casting Routh in his movie, it just goes against so many things we've heard. I honestly expect a new actor.

[AgentPat]

Although honestly, I dont think Tom will do the movie... http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/scared.jpg

:p

[RakuMon]

You know I'm starting to worry about the logistical nightmare it is to get Tom in JLA. If there's a hold up, I'm worried it's the Smallville shooting sked that's the reason. (It was rumored to be one of the reasons Tom gave for turning down McG/Ratner). When initial rumors indicated filming in Vancouver, I thought that it was obvious that Welling would be simultaneously shooting SV and JL. But with the rumor now stating that the pic will film almost exclusively in Australia, I'm not sure it'll work out for Tom anymore. :(

[Serene]

You know I'm starting to worry about the logistical nightmare it is to get Tom in JLA. If there's a hold up, I'm worried it's the Smallville shooting sked that's the reason. (It was rumored to be one of the reasons Tom gave for turning down McG/Ratner). When initial rumors indicated filming in Vancouver, I thought that it was obvious that Welling would be simultaneously shooting SV and JL. But with the rumor now stating that the pic will film almost exclusively in Australia, I'm not sure it'll work out for Tom anymore. :(

That's a huge concern and I can't see how they can possibly work around filming in Australia.

Sucks. :(

[Showtime]

If any real website gets a hold of this and confirms that it's between these two, prepare for World War III. I'll resign my modship over at BT as I have no desire to mediate what's going to ensue. :)

Although honestly, I dont think Tom will do the movie and I cant see Dan Lin casting Routh in his movie, it just goes against so many things we've heard. I honestly expect a new actor.

Are you being held to that? :csad:

[AgentPat]

That's a huge concern and I can't see how they can possibly work around filming in Australia. They can't. Well, I can't wrap my head around how it could work short of giving Welling the time off to do it, hence my point about him needing to leave the SV production for a few weeks. They could do a few establishing scenes for Clark and then insert them into the eps Welling isn't in Vancouver to shoot.

Would they do that? No clue. But they certainly could.

I'm one of the most vocal critics of not-enough-Clark-time on SV, but if they HAD to do this in order to accommodate Welling's schedule so he could do JL, I'd be fine with it. If they pack the episodes with popular guest characters (Oliver, Brainiac/Fine, Supergirl), get the stunt casting machine into full whirl (Sorbo, Slater, Cain), maybe do a Lex/Lionel centric ep, there's no reason it couldn't work.

But y'know what? All this poop would have ALREADY been discussed. Supposedly, this was all worked out a MONTH ago, and then some. Clearly, something else is going on. IF official word comes down from On High that it's a scheduling thing, I'm gonna call BS. Same goes for Welling turning down the role; Sanchez had him all but confirmed for weeks. The young vs. old look for the cast doesn't hold water, and they can't fall back on the "if I do this, SV would have to end" excuse anymore because SV will probably be history post S7. If it goes eight, I'll be SERIOUSLY surprised.

So what's the deal? I just want an HONEST answer. I think fans deserve at least that. "Something happened" just doesn't fly.

[TWistim]

They can't. Well, I can't wrap my head around how it could work short of giving Welling the time off to do it, hence my point about him needing to leave the SV production for a few weeks. They could do a few establishing scenes for Clark and then insert them into the eps Welling isn't in Vancouver to shoot.

Would they do that? No clue. But they certainly could.

I'm one of the most vocal critics of not-enough-Clark-time on SV, but if they HAD to do this in order to accommodate Welling's schedule so he could do JL, I'd be fine with it. If they pack the episodes with popular guest characters (Oliver, Brainiac/Fine, Supergirl), get the stunt casting machine into full whirl (Sorbo, Slater, Cain), maybe do a Lex/Lionel centric ep, there's no reason it couldn't work.

But y'know what? All this poop would have ALREADY been discussed. Supposedly, this was all worked out a MONTH ago, and then some. Clearly, something else is going on. IF official word comes down from On High that it's a scheduling thing, I'm gonna call BS. Same goes for Welling turning down the role; Sanchez had him all but confirmed for weeks. The young vs. old look for the cast doesn't hold water, and they can't fall back on the "if I do this, SV would have to end" excuse anymore because SV will probably be history post S7. If it goes eight, I'll be SERIOUSLY surprised.

So what's the deal? I just want an HONEST answer. I think fans deserve at least that. "Something happened" just doesn't fly.

Welcome back, Pat.

I couldn't agree more with what you just posted. I'm still holding out for a miracle but I'm also a realist. The longer they delay an announcement the more unlikely it looks. :csad:

[AgentPat]

Welcome back, Pat.Thanks! :D :up:

I couldn't agree more with what you just posted. I'm still holding out for a miracle but I'm also a realist. The longer they delay an announcement the more unlikely it looks. :csad:Well, if what some random poster over at IESB just said is true, we'll ALL know whether we'll be shooting off fireworks or shooting ourselves in the head come next week. Talk about sink or swim. This is like calling the coin toss for the tiebreaker at the SuperBowl.

I'm gonna be a freakin' wreck.

*sigh*

Think happy thoughts.... happy thoughts.... happy thoughts.... happy....

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/transference14.jpg

[KalKai]

Imagine if we actually get something tonight before or after the premiere.. I dunno.. maybe a glimpse of Tom in costume? LOL.. I know, that's impossible. :p

[KalKai]

Jayne @ CD posted a direct quote from the e-mail she got when asked about Routh & JLA:

"Brandon spoke with WB execs concerning the rumored sequel to Superman Returns about a week or so ago. From what I know of the conversation, he was informed that Justice League had become a priority for the studio and they were officially recasting Superman as a means of separating it from the current franchise. Although the negotiations fell apart at the last second for an undisclosed reason, WB is still very much interested in Tom Welling for the role. The only problem I was aware of during the negotiations is the filming dates for Justice League and Smallville intersect during March and April. I promise I will let you know if I hear anything else, but as of this moment, they do not want Justice League to be connected to any other current franchise. Call me later if you get a second."

I hope they'll find a way to make it work, they can't afford to make a 2nd mistake this time.

[AgentPat]

^ Yeah, I read that too. Who knows though, right?

Imagine if we actually get something tonight before or after the premiere.. I dunno.. maybe a glimpse of Tom in costume? LOL.. I know, that's impossible. :pYeah, on SV - right *now* - that's not going to happen. End of the season however...

Seriously though, could this be any more nerve-racking? I mean, jeeze! There's no middle ground on this if all that poop over at IESB is true.

Well, I'm gonna try to get some shut-eye. Hopefully we'll hear something soon, 'cause I'm just gonna rattle myself apart otherwise. Nighters, Kai. :)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If you ask me G & M are going to do everything in their power to stop Tom Welling from being in that movie. The easiet way to free up Tom Welling from Smallville it seems is to just write Clark out for a certain number of episodes & then just bring in Kara or Oliver or both. But I can not see G & M allowing that to happen & THAT is probably where they have the most say & that is what is more then likely holding everything up. The timing of Brainiacs return is interesting though is that just a coincidence ? Who knows

[jayskate]

I agree , creative team at smallville could write out clark for a number of shows , bring in Green Arrow etc even make it part of the storyline to search for him .I would love to see Tom in this role as I think it could really work for a more modern take on Superman . I think its interesting that every gengeration has their '' Superman '' or an actor that defines the part for them .

I was and still am a big fan of the Christopher Reeve - Superman films and now I'm a fan of Smallville and of course Toms interpretation of the role .
If its not going to be Tom , I think I'd rather see someone else new to the role playing Supes on the big screen . Anyways I hope we find out soon .

[smsvmos]

If you ask me G & M are going to do everything in their power to stop Tom Welling from being in that movie. The easiet way to free up Tom Welling from Smallville it seems is to just write Clark out for a certain number of episodes & then just bring in Kara or Oliver or both. But I can not see G & M allowing that to happen & THAT is probably where they have the most say & that is what is more then likely holding everything up. The timing of Brainiacs return is interesting though is that just a coincidence ? Who knows

They dont have to write Clark out, they just have to recast him ;) as a baby :D
1 or 2 episodes of Krypton (We can see Brainiac interact with the El family and then him returning to Earth :D

[The Incredible Hulk]

for "pie in the sky" sake...

well they could do a 3 episode arc where Clark has gone into training, have Welling shoot some scenes of Clark conversing with Jor-El, learning about the 28 known galaxies, mastering flight, etc. and then just have those interspersed into 3 episodes that he's gone. That would free up like a 4-5 week window for Welling to go to Oz to shoot some early stuff, then he could come back to film the final 2-3 episodes of SV, and then return to Oz to finish off the JLA stuff.

[RakuMon]

for "pie in the sky" sake...

well they could do a 3 episode arc where Clark has gone into training, have Welling shoot some scenes of Clark conversing with Jor-El, learning about the 28 known galaxies, mastering flight, etc. and then just have those interspersed into 3 episodes that he's gone. That would free up like a 4-5 week window for Welling to go to Oz to shoot some early stuff, then he could come back to film the final 2-3 episodes of SV, and then return to Oz to finish off the JLA stuff.

Well, according to the "Big Fans" doc on the DVD, the showrunners seem to only peruse K-site's message boards. So maybe you should *shudder* venture over there and post your suggestion. :ninja:

[zerohour films]

They dont have to write Clark out, they just have to recast him ;) as a baby :D
1 or 2 episodes of Krypton (We can see Brainiac interact with the El family and then him returning to Earth :D


Great idea!
I have always wanted them to do a few Krypton centric episodes. But I believe in the past that territory was off limits because of the movie division.


But now that they are going to be showing flashbacks with Lara that means the possibility is open.
Come to think of it since they are going to be showing some Krypton flashbacks that is a sign in TW's favor don't you think?
Since like I said before they were limited on what they could show because they didn't want to step on the movies toes.


That is just my on thought, but it does seem interesting...wonder if it's being discussed anywhere else on the board...hhhmmm

[Migu-EL]

Episode 19 will be titled "Krypton".:ninja:

[triplet]

*sigh*

I think this is going to be a very, very long day....

:(

[ariellem]

Once again, this could all be settled if they'd make a movie combining the alternate versions: TW's version and BR's version meet up with each other, and possibly with other versions of the character, to fight a greater threat (Doomsday?). I haven't read Crisis on Infinite Earths or whatever it was called, but I'm guessing this would be similar. We'd all get our favorite version(s) and actor(s) and suit(s), and none of the actors would be out of a job.

[Migu-EL]

Once again, this could all be settled if they'd make a movie combining the alternate versions: TW's version and BR's version meet up with each other, and possibly with other versions of the character, to fight a greater threat (Doomsday?). I haven't read Crisis on Infinite Earths or whatever it was called, but I'm guessing this would be similar. We'd all get our favorite version(s) and actor(s) and suit(s), and none of the actors would be out of a job.


It sounds like the WB wants the public to forget about Singer's Superman.

[Serene]

"Fierce" caps - thanks to link posted by Dark Lord.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5383/sm703d0216bjpg5bf83967sp1.jpg http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/707/sm703d0584bjpg8f8d11bevc2.jpg

Someone's hair is looking a bit... iconic. ;)

[RakuMon]

:wow:
S-curl anyone?

Those pics are begging to be manip'd.

[Serene]

:wow:
S-curl anyone?

Those pics are begging to be manip'd.

I'm sure they will be. ;) I wish there were HQ versions available. There probably will be in time.. somewhere.

[Zorex]

Great idea!
I have always wanted them to do a few Krypton centric episodes. But I believe in the past that territory was off limits because of the movie division.


But now that they are going to be showing flashbacks with Lara that means the possibility is open.
Come to think of it since they are going to be showing some Krypton flashbacks that is a sign in TW's favor don't you think?
Since like I said before they were limited on what they could show because they didn't want to step on the movies toes.


That is just my on thought, but it does seem interesting...wonder if it's being discussed anywhere else on the board...hhhmmm
A "friend of a friend" situation told me that there were plans for a "Last Days of Krypton" episode as far back as some point during season 5 (sensibly, what with the FOS, Brainiac, and Zod). Maybe they'll be bringing in aspects of those plans into this season, if they don't do a whole episode or two about it.

[Migu-EL]

A "friend of a friend" situation told me that there were plans for a "Last Days of Krypton" episode as far back as some point during season 5 (sensibly, what with the FOS, Brainiac, and Zod). Maybe they'll be bringing in aspects of those plans into this season, if they don't do a whole episode or two about it.


It would make sense since they have Lara, Kara, Jor-El , and now Brainiac returning this season.

[DvilDog]

the lack of news in this thread is going to make my head explode!!! Someone use mental telepathy to see what Tom is thinking

[triplet]

From what people have said, it sounds like they're having problems working around the Smallville schedule.

Who knows if it's possible to work those things out?

I hope so but we all knew it would be a difficult obstacle to overcome.

*crosses fingers*

I hope they can figure something out so Tom can wear the tights. With Brandon being the alternative, I'm not sure I'd see the film if Tom isn't in it...

[DvilDog]

From what people have said, it sounds like they're having problems working around the Smallville schedule.

Who knows if it's possible to work those things out?

I hope so but we all knew it would be a difficult obstacle to overcome.

*crosses fingers*

I hope they can figure something out so Tom can wear the tights. With Brandon being the alternative, I'm not sure I'd see the film if isn't Tom in it...

I liked Brandon but I gotta be honest I want to see Tom always have. Now quit holding out Trip I know you have some form of ESP. let me know what you find out

[AgentPat]

the lack of news in this thread is going to make my head explode!!! Someone use mental telepathy to see what Tom is thinkingLOL! Now wouldn't that be fun? ;)

Well, here's some tid-bits on JL from Sanchez for those folks who don't venture too far from this forum:

This script is better than Batman Begins, X-2 or even Spider-Man 2, there are so many scenes in the films that will make you giddy like a school girl.

I am getting that pre Star War release feel on this film, there is plenty of excitement coming from everyone including execs and other studios peeps.

This movie is going to be great. Sounds almost too good to be true. :hyper:

Rumors are still flying like the Wallendas. The consensus seems to be that since this hasn't happen yet...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/fatlady.jpg
^ formal casting announcement from Warner Features

...nobody is completely in or out of the running, including Welling.

[triplet]

I liked Brandon but I gotta be honest I want to see Tom always have. Now quit holding out Trip I know you have some form of ESP. let me know what you find out

LOL!

I wish... :D

[DvilDog]

LOL! Now wouldn't that be fun? ;)

Well, here's some tid-bits on JL from Sanchez for those folks who don't venture too far from this forum:

Sounds almost too good to be true. :hyper:

Rumors are still flying like the Wallendas. The consensus seems to be that since this hasn't happen yet...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/fatlady.jpg
^ formal casting announcement from Warner Features

...nobody is completely in or out of the running, including Welling.

Thanks for the info. Always love your humour as I have said before lol. Ah well at least the season premiere is tonight. And the dvr is waiting so I can watch it many times lol.

[DvilDog]

LOL!

I wish... :D


Cant wait for your reviews on the new season either!!

[JackMercy]

From the The Maestro's Wizard interview:

If that happens, any chance of a “Smallville” movie in the future?

GOUGH: You know, we’re always open to that. I don’t know if that’s something that Warners would want to pursue given that they have the Superman movies now—at least one, and talk of a sequel. That’s something that we’re always open to.



Just thought I'd point that little nugget out...


It's amazing how the language has changed in just a few months...

;)

[triplet]

Cant wait for your reviews on the new season either!!

Thanks!

I can't wait to see tonight's episode! I think going mostly non-spoilery is helping my enthusiasm level...

I'm really looking forward to tonight!

What little I do know about tonight's episode, the official description, the director's cuts, and a few other tidbits, have me excited to see this.

:up:

[COMPO]

oh, yeah, we'll have your reviews back. god, i've missed them.

[The Joker_1000]

So, what's up with Welling now?

[triplet]

From the The Maestro's Wizard interview:

If that happens, any chance of a “Smallville” movie in the future?

GOUGH: You know, we’re always open to that. I don’t know if that’s something that Warners would want to pursue given that they have the Superman movies now—at least one, and talk of a sequel. That’s something that we’re always open to.



Just thought I'd point that little nugget out...


It's amazing how the language has changed in just a few months...

;)

Hmm...

Any news on your end, Jack?

What kinda pizza will WB be serving come Summer of 09?

;)

oh, yeah, we'll have your reviews back. god, i've missed them.

Yeah?

Aw.... thanks, and dvldog too.

I hope I can keep up to what I've done previously.

So, what's up with Welling now?

I tried at dvldog's request, but my ESP seems to be broken...

;)

Have no clue.

Maybe Jack has some cryptic gems he can share...

:ninja:

[RakuMon]

I got my ish of EW early this week and the lead story in its News & Notes section is all about Justice League (no mention of Tom, though). EW has read the script and the rumors are right: it is the OMAC project storyline and Max Lord is the main villain. I'll transcribe as much as I can, and I'll have a link as soon as EW puts this up on the web. Be sure to check out EW when it hits stands tomorrow!

'Justice' is Served
EW has the scoop on the big-screen superhero spectacular Justice League of America

by Nicole Sperling

Holy blockbuster, Batman! Geeks everywhere are aflutter over the news that the Caped Crusader and his superhero cohorts Superman and Wonder Woman are finally flying to the big screen together in a live action film version of the comic book Justice League of America. "Except for Watchmen and Dark Knight, nothing is causing more nerd excitement than Justice League," says comic book writer Brad Meltzer, who relaunched the franchise for DC Comics last year. "Like the X-Men, this is the comic book creator's crown jewel."

Though the studio will not officially confirm it, Warner Bros.' League feature is scheduled to begin production in Australia next February under Happy Feet director George Miller. But some Hollywood power players aren't taking it too well, given that the movie could hinder future plans for DC Comics film franchises, including the ongoing Batman and Superman series, and long-gestating theatrical takes on Wonder Woman and Flash. Sources say that Warner Bros. was prompted to move quickly on Justice League by three factors: a screenplay that they "flipped out over"; an open spot in their summer 2009 calendar; and the increasing probability of an industry-wide strike that would shut down all productions by next July. EW has obtained an early version of the script -- which was written by Kieran and Michele Mulroney -- and what we've seen remains faithful to the comic book that first appeared in 1960. (Stop reading if you're spoiler-phobic).

...whew... more coming...

[Zorex]

This script is better than Batman Begins, X-2 or even Spider-Man 2, there are so many scenes in the films that will make you giddy like a school girl.

I am getting that pre Star War release feel on this film, there is plenty of excitement coming from everyone including execs and other studios peeps.

This movie is going to be great.
There are so many geek-giggle worthy scenes? That sounds neat and all, but I'm hoping that means there's also good story and character.

[RakuMon]

All seven original members of the Justice League -- Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, and Martian Manhunter -- are featured in an origins story about the superhero conglomerate. The plot revolves around villainous Maxwell Lord and involves cyborgs called OMACs, who can take over humans and turn them into killing machines. There are epic battles between Superman and Batman, as well as Superman and Wonder Woman, and League could spawn a slew of additional franchises if successful.

But what about the existing franchises? Christian Bale is not expected to star as League's Batman, and many in Hollywood are wondering whether this continuity breach will distract audiences who turn out for Knight next July. Director Christopher Nolan is reportedly unhappy that the studio is making League (Nolan is currently "knee-deep" in production and unavailable for comment, according to his reps.) Sources close to director Bryan Singer say he had to be reassured that Superman: Man of Steel wouldn't be affected. (The film is still in development, and Singer has the option to bow out if the script is not up to par.) And while Brandon Routh has said he would gladly reprise his role as the Man of Steel for League, it's not clear if Warner Bros. wants him for the film. The studio declined comment for this story, but according to one source familiar with their plans for League, "Warner doesn't believe they are cannibalizing [these other franchises] partly because it's unlikely Brandon and Christian will be in it. They believe the movies can live in parallel universes." Whether Justice will jump start or derail the Wonder Woman and Flash films is unclear. Sources say that concerns about hurting individual franchises are what kept Warner Bros. president and COO Alan Horn from greenlighting a multi-superhero movie for years.

Insiders confirm that Jessica Biel is in early talks to play Wonder Woman in League, but as with Bale and Routh, the studio might be wary of a crossover; one source says that her contract is unlikely to guarantee that she'd be the star of any future Wonder Woman feature. (Biel's reps declined to comment.) And a Flash movie, which Night at the Museum director Shawn Levy was last attached to direct, now seems to be on hold. But the Flash may not have to put off his solo project for too long. Says one studio insider, "I don't think you can cannibalize superheroes. The audience has an insatiable appetite for them right now." And nothing will whet that appetite more than seeing seven of them bounding across the big screen all at once.

>EW.COM Who do you think should don Batman's cape, Green Lantern's tights, and Aquaman's scales? Go to popwatch.ew.com to cast the entire Justice League.


EW issue #957, October 5, 2007

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The article's sidebar confirms Barry Allen is the Flash and John Stewart is GL. I'll transcribe the character descriptions later.

[The Joker_1000]

Sweet, we'll be getting a Black Green Lantern for this movie. If only we could get a Black Superman.......

[TheLongestDay]

Sweet, we'll be getting a Black Green Lantern for this movie. If only we could get a Black Superman.......

lol

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/62/195270570_231046b242.jpg

[bootspark]

We will never see a black Superman. Although McG was considering casting Will Smith as Superman when he was attached as director according to USA Today a few years ago.

[TheLongestDay]

We will never see a black Superman. Although McG was considering casting Will Smith as Superman when he was attached as director according to USA Today a few years ago.

thats just rediculous,the character is white-there are plenty of good black male characters in the dc universe,we just havent seen them onscreen yet

[Mig-El]

Hey guys,

Let your opinions be heard.

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2007/09/justice-league-.html

EW is part of Time Warner...so maybe they'll see who fans would like to see.

Tom for Superman!

[bootspark]

Hey guys,

Let your opinions be heard.

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2007/09/justice-league-.html

EW is part of Time Warner...so maybe they'll see who fans would like to see.

Tom for Superman!


Almost every comment so far is Tom Welling for Superman! hahaha.

I tell you, if he is NOT cast, its going to be hell on earth.

[Frantik]

thats just rediculous,the character is white-there are plenty of good black male characters in the dc universe,we just havent seen them onscreen yet

I won't say it is rediculous but I will say, that I am accustumed to seeing Superman a certain way, the traditional way. But I remember when I saw Daredevil and the king pin was black. It didn't bother me a bit because I was not familiar with the character but I know others who were bothered by the change. Another generation who did not know supeman as we do could possibly accept Superman of another race. idk...