Tom Welling as Superman

[Mig-El]

Even the writer of the blog wants him. hahaha

[TheLongestDay]

I won't say it is rediculous but I will say, that I am accustumed to seeing Superman a certain way, the traditional way. But I remember when I saw Daredevil and the king pin was black. It didn't bother me a bit because I was not familiar with the character but I know others who were bothered by the change. Another generation who did not know supeman as we do could possibly accept Superman of another race. idk...

but whats the point tho when there are plenty of other good black superheros just waiting to be put onscreen,it wouldnt work making luke cage,black panther,blade,war machine or John stewart white for instance

[triplet]

Hey guys,

Let your opinions be heard.

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2007/09/justice-league-.html

EW is part of Time Warner...so maybe they'll see who fans would like to see.

Tom for Superman!

Okay, I have some power.

I just posted that on tw.org.

Hopefully it'll get the word out and their servers will be flooded with comments saying Tom is the guy.

:D :up:

Thanks, Mig.... I credited you for the link.

[AgentPat]

Hey guys,

Let your opinions be heard.

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2007/09/justice-league-.html

EW is part of Time Warner...so maybe they'll see who fans would like to see.

Tom for Superman!There's another one on MTV's site (!!)
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/09/27/casting-call-justice-league-by-larry-carroll/

And yes, y'all get three guesses as to who they picked for Superman. :D

This is getting ridiculous. EW? MTV? Come ON! These are GENERAL AUDIENCE oriented sites. Yo! Warner Bros? You seeing this? :whatever:

[AgentPat]

Unrelated to JL, but interesting in a big picture kind of way:


What 48 things do you want to do?
By: Ettie Newlands
September 27, 2007

Excerpt:

Forty-three days before the first day of a new year, a website posed the question, "What are 43 things you want to do before you die?" Before the 43 days were up, 1,249,206 people in 13,763 cities posted 1,091,232 things on their lists. Some of the goals were predictable, like the 3,636 people who want to exercise more or the 7,003 who want to get out of debt. It's a little sad that 524 still need to find their purpose in life, and a little pathetic that two actually said they want to become atheists. It's amazing that 2,029 people admitted wanting to watch all the "Smallville" episodes, and confusing that 120 want to stop thinking too much. How much thinking did that answer require?

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18862893&BRD=1164&PAG=461&dept_id=98728&rfi=6



Okay, I found it amusing. :O

[triplet]

There's another one on MTV's site (!!)
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/09/27/casting-call-justice-league-by-larry-carroll/

And yes, y'all get three guesses as to who they picked for Superman. :D

This is getting ridiculous. EW? MTV? Come ON! These are GENERAL AUDIENCE oriented sites. Yo! Warner Bros? You seeing this? :whatever:

LOL!

:D

Awesome.

:up:

Isn't MTV owned by Viacom, however? (co-owner of the CW?)

They might have an agenda....

Added that link to tw.org, btw... thanks Pat.

[AgentPat]

LOL!

:D

Awesome.

:up:

Isn't MTV owned by Viacom, however? (co-owner of the CW?)

They might have an agenda....

Added that link to tw.org, btw... thanks Pat.*Everybody* has an agenda, even those who claim they don't. ;)

No prob with the link. I hope I find more. :D

[triplet]

*Everybody* has an agenda, even those who claim they don't. ;)

No prob with the link. I hope I find more. :D

Awesome but WTF is that guy thinking?

Keanu Reeves as MM?

:confused:

That's whacked....

[AgentPat]

Awesome but WTF is that guy thinking?

Keanu Reeves as MM?

:confused:

That's whacked....HAHAHAH!! Out of left field, huh?

Maybe it was the last name? :oldrazz:

[TheLongestDay]

there are three people in this pic...one of them would make a good MM...can you guess who?

http://www.italica.com/cinemaparadiso/sf/posters/matrix.jpg

[Oerwinde]

there are three people in this pic...one of them would make a good MM...can you guess who?

http://www.italica.com/cinemaparadiso/sf/posters/matrix.jpg

Obviously Carrie-Anne Moss. She can manage to look hot and horrible, like a man and a woman, all at the same time. Perfect for a shapeshifting character.

[LexCorp]

Obviously Carrie-Anne Moss. She can manage to look hot and horrible, like a man and a woman, all at the same time. Perfect for a shapeshifting character.

I agree

Carrie-Anne Moss is the new MM

[TheLongestDay]

Obviously Carrie-Anne Moss. She can manage to look hot and horrible, like a man and a woman, all at the same time. Perfect for a shapeshifting character.

exactly!

[Justice Bringer]

If they disregard SV continuity; it would seem like a waste in regards to all the development Clark has went through.

Yesterday's episode reinforced that.

They should make the JL universe consistent with what SV established IMO.

[TheLongestDay]

If they disregard SV continuity; it would seem like a waste in regards to all the development Clark has went through.

Yesterday's episode reinforced that.

They should make the JL universe consistent with what SV established IMO.

altho i agree,you still have the problem of the recasting of aquaman and martian manhunter which interferes with the smallville continuity somewhat.

A new flash is easily explained tho as its Bart (impulse)

[LexCorp]

If they disregard SV continuity; it would seem like a waste in regards to all the development Clark has went through.

Yesterday's episode reinforced that.

They should make the JL universe consistent with what SV established IMO.

Yes the JL movie should follow in SV footsteps.

[Justice Bringer]

altho i agree,you still have the problem of the recasting of aquaman and martian manhunter which interferes with the smallville continuity somewhat.

A new flash is easily explained tho as its Bart (impulse)

Yeah.

They should just use Phil Morris, Alan Ritchson and Kyle Gallner with Welling.

I'd rather they keep Flash as Bart Allen instead of introducing Barry Allen; it's a bit messy.


I dont know how this project will impact SV if Welling isnt involved though.

Since Martian Manhunter is now apparently in the revised script for the film, will the film division still allow Phil Morris to keep appearing on SV; or will he randomly disapear sometime this season?

[TheLongestDay]

Yeah.

They should just use Phil Morris, Alan Ritchson and Kyle Gallner with Welling.

I'd rather they keep Flash as Bart Allen instead of introducing Barry Allen; it's a bit messy.


I dont know how this project will impact SV if Welling isnt involved though.

Since Martian Manhunter is now apparently in the revised script for the film, will the film division still allow Phil Morris to keep appearing on SV; or will he randomly disapear sometime this season?

well i mean if they have to recast him-i could buy it seeing as how jonn is a shapeshifter

I would like to see ryan reynolds as flash tho if they use wally west

[Justice Bringer]

Yeah. Its not Wally West. Its Barry Allen.


But they should just keep the SV Flash if they keep Welling.

I dont want Phil Morris replaced either. John may be a shapeshifter but Phil has such a cool voice for the character.

[TheLongestDay]

is it confirmed to be barry then? (ugh)

Id like Phil Morris-but in full on MM makeup

[Justice Bringer]

Yeah its confirmed for now.

It's Barry since Flash dies at the end, but since Bart died in the comics as well; I doubt DC would have a problem sanctioning the use of Bart as the film's Flash.

Since Bart was always Clark's favorite; it would perhaps make his death more meaningful.

[TheLongestDay]

good idea,but it just seems like WB isnt interested on capitilising on oppurtunities like that

[Justice Bringer]

Yeah well, I dont care about WB.

I'm just saying if they want Welling; its foolish to disregard everything established in Smallville.


I mean what happens if Superman gets a solo spinoff from JL with Welling? You cant go back to Smallville continuity again with the SV actors after disregarding it in JL.

So I'd rather they keep it if they want him.

[RakuMon]

Is it just me, or is the DC Films board filled with a bunch of whiny fanboys? Not only do they constantly rail against all things Smallville (apparently, the posters of this board have a piss poor rep in the other SHH boards. Someone's sig actually reads "the Smallville boards are SHH's own Arkham Asylum") but my thread on EW's story about the JL script (one that I oh so patiently transcribed for people who didn't get the magazine early, by the way) got criticized and closed.

Uh, hello? EW is the most read entertainment magazine in the country. And they just confirmed the list of heroes, plot details and the main villain. Info that was all merely speculation up until this point. Jeez.

Anyway, since you all are more appreciative, here's the list of heroes and how they're described in the script according to EW:

'LEAGUE' SNEAK PEEK
EW caught an early glimpse of the Justice League script. Below, a (mostly) spoiler-free first look. -- NS

SUPERMAN a.k.a. Clark Kent, news reporter. The morally upstanding Man of Steel battles Batman and has more to worry about than Kryptonite.

WONDER WOMAN a.k.a. Diana of Themyscira, Amazonian princess. Revered by the other supers for her beauty and ass-kicking abilities.

MARTIAN MANHUNTER a.k.a. J'onn J'onzz, detective. His power to read minds comes in handy as the villain engages in some nifty mind control.

GREEN LANTERN a.k.a. John Stewart, architect. Designed the Hall of Justice. His emerald power ring shoots beams of energy.

BATMAN a.k.a. Bruce Wayne. The most human of the bunch is mistrustful of others, which leads to quite a few problems for the clan.

FLASH a.k.a. Barry Allen, cop. The most enthusiastic superhero, Flash is happy just to be included, but his ravenous appetite leads to trouble.

AQUAMAN a.k.a. Arthur, the Atlantean king. Not a fan of humans, Aquaman is more interested in helping his fellow heroes than lending a hand to land dwellers.

[Justice Bringer]

If they want to tie it with Welling and Smallville;

Make the film take place in the not so distant future (like X-men) about 10 years following the series finale of Smallville.

Clark completed his training and is now Superman in Metropolis.

A.C. returned to Atlantis to rule his Kingdom.

Bart went from criminal to police officer.

MM tracks all the superpowered beings on the planet and unites them together.

[04nbod]

Someone's sig actually reads "the Smallville boards are SHH's own Arkham Asylum")

if thats true then i am proud to be an inmate:woot:

[Justice Bringer]

You know.

I was thinking of a good premise to get the Supergirl spinoff to actually work.

The Smallville series finale will likely see Clark finally leaving Smallville to begin his training.

In the wake of that, Kara would remain in Smallville. Wouldnt it be cool if some characters from The Legion were stranded at this point in history and joined forces with her for the series?

The spinoff might work better with a team dynamic thing going.

[Serene]

Is it just me, or is the DC Films board filled with a bunch of whiny fanboys? Not only do they constantly rail against all things Smallville (apparently, the posters of this board have a piss poor rep in the other SHH boards. Someone's sig actually reads "the Smallville boards are SHH's own Arkham Asylum")

It's not just you. I had 'words' over there with a few of them a few days ago. I took offense to some crap they said about us over here in the SV and I had to post.

I think they're all just jealous. ;)

But I am disappointed that the mods would allow a sig that is insulting to an entire group of people that support these boards pretty regularly.


Uh, hello? EW is the most read entertainment magazine in the country. And they just confirmed the list of heroes, plot details and the main villain. Info that was all merely speculation up until this point. Jeez.

Anyway, since you all are more appreciative, here's the list of heroes and how they're described in the script according to EW:

'LEAGUE' SNEAK PEEK
EW caught an early glimpse of the Justice League script. Below, a (mostly) spoiler-free first look. -- NS

SUPERMAN a.k.a. Clark Kent, news reporter. The morally upstanding Man of Steel battles Batman and has more to worry about than Kryptonite.

WONDER WOMAN a.k.a. Diana of Themyscira, Amazonian princess. Revered by the other supers for her beauty and ass-kicking abilities.

MARTIAN MANHUNTER a.k.a. J'onn J'onzz, detective. His power to read minds comes in handy as the villain engages in some nifty mind control.

GREEN LANTERN a.k.a. John Stewart, architect. Designed the Hall of Justice. His emerald power ring shoots beams of energy.

BATMAN a.k.a. Bruce Wayne. The most human of the bunch is mistrustful of others, which leads to quite a few problems for the clan.

FLASH a.k.a. Barry Allen, cop. The most enthusiastic superhero, Flash is happy just to be included, but his ravenous appetite leads to trouble.

AQUAMAN a.k.a. Arthur, the Atlantean king. Not a fan of humans, Aquaman is more interested in helping his fellow heroes than lending a hand to land dwellers.

Good stuff, Raku. Thanks. :)

[Justice Bringer]

But believe me, it would make a difference if you did apologize. Part of the bitterness that lingers is because you had never apparently thought to apologize, much less admit you were wrong.

If you are truly regretful and you clear the air on that point, I think it would be a huge first step.

Sure. Whatever it takes.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Its gonna be a shame to see one of the most hated places at Superhero Hype go when Smallville is over.

[AgentPat]

Is it just me, or is the DC Films board filled with a bunch of whiny fanboys? Not only do they constantly rail against all things Smallville (apparently, the posters of this board have a piss poor rep in the other SHH boards. Someone's sig actually reads "the Smallville boards are SHH's own Arkham Asylum") but my thread on EW's story about the JL script (one that I oh so patiently transcribed for people who didn't get the magazine early, by the way) got criticized and closed.

Uh, hello? EW is the most read entertainment magazine in the country. And they just confirmed the list of heroes, plot details and the main villain. Info that was all merely speculation up until this point. Jeez.

Anyway, since you all are more appreciative, here's the list of heroes and how they're described in the script according to EW:FWIW, I *totally* appreciate your having transcribed that article, Raku. Hopefully, the Hype will get on the ball soon and give us an actual JL *forum* to discuss the film. 'Cause forums like "Wanted" here at the Hype, complete with its Spoiler, Non Spoiler and Graphic Novel subsections, are crazy busy with people who are just dying to talk about it.[/sarcasm]

'LEAGUE' SNEAK PEEK
EW caught an early glimpse of the Justice League script. Below, a (mostly) spoiler-free first look. -- NS

SUPERMAN a.k.a. Clark Kent, news reporter. The morally upstanding Man of Steel battles Batman and has more to worry about than Kryptonite.

WONDER WOMAN a.k.a. Diana of Themyscira, Amazonian princess. Revered by the other supers for her beauty and ass-kicking abilities.

MARTIAN MANHUNTER a.k.a. J'onn J'onzz, detective. His power to read minds comes in handy as the villain engages in some nifty mind control.

GREEN LANTERN a.k.a. John Stewart, architect. Designed the Hall of Justice. His emerald power ring shoots beams of energy.

BATMAN a.k.a. Bruce Wayne. The most human of the bunch is mistrustful of others, which leads to quite a few problems for the clan.

FLASH a.k.a. Barry Allen, cop. The most enthusiastic superhero, Flash is happy just to be included, but his ravenous appetite leads to trouble.

AQUAMAN a.k.a. Arthur, the Atlantean king. Not a fan of humans, Aquaman is more interested in helping his fellow heroes than lending a hand to land dwellers.I LOVE this. The various personality aspect of the plot intrigues me more than the OLMACs LOL. It's what I really liked about that scene in SV's Justice episode, where Clark finds out what the other heroes have been up to since he last saw them. That exchange was priceless!

I haven't gotten my EW yet but will probably get it today. Was there anything else of interest about JL in the article? So far, the character breakdown is gold. :D :up:

[triplet]

Sure. Whatever it takes.

You that interested in redeeming yourself, it's up to you to take the next step.

[DvilDog]

Okay, I have some power.

I just posted that on tw.org.

Hopefully it'll get the word out and their servers will be flooded with comments saying Tom is the guy.

:D :up:

Thanks, Mig.... I credited you for the link.

Quit holding out you have more than some power!!! Use the smallville/jedi mind trick to convince wb. I have faith in you.

[Justice Bringer]

You that interested in redeeming yourself, it's up to you to take the next step.

Alright. Name it..

[AgentPat]

Its gonna be a shame to see one of the most hated places at Superhero Hype go when Smallville is over.What? SV will still be in first run broadcast for quite a few years in various countries after it ends its run in the US. The SV subforum itself has more threads (101,936) than all of the threads in Spider-Man 1 (2,071), Spider-Man 2 (3,306), X-Men 1 (955), X-Men 2 (3,144), The Spirit (76) Hellboy (2,006), Sin-City (3,928), Watchmen (5,517), Punisher (9,381), Iron Man (20,704), Batman Begins (23,479) and The Hulk (26,923) COMBINED!!! They're not going to just ditch this forum the day after the show is canceled, which at this rate might not be for another two years for all we know. :ninja:

[04nbod]

You know.

I was thinking of a good premise to get the Supergirl spinoff to actually work.

The Smallville series finale will likely see Clark finally leaving Smallville to begin his training.

In the wake of that, Kara would remain in Smallville. Wouldnt it be cool if some characters from The Legion were stranded at this point in history and joined forces with her for the series?

The spinoff might work better with a team dynamic thing going.

i would love that! How old is the guy who did brainiac 5's voice in JLU? Wasn't he on a WB show at some point?

[TheLongestDay]

its a good idea and a nice way for a new legacy of Smallville to start,with Kara as the star-i just dont know if it would work,alot of shows seem to fail when the main character is replaced (x-files for example).

Id love to see it tho

[Justice Bringer]

Gilmore Girls.

He would obviously have to look human (like Marsters did) on the show.

Saturn Girl and Lightning Lad would be great too.

[AgentPat]

Hmm. Looks like Biel is NOT going to be WW after all:
http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2007/09/biel-passes-on-.html

Back to square one on that front.

[DvilDog]

Hmm. Looks like Biel is NOT going to be WW after all:
http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2007/09/biel-passes-on-.html

Back to square one on that front.

Honestly I think that is a good thing. i think Jessica is attractive but I honestly think that she isnt pretty enough or tall enough to play WW. This is just my personal opinion of course, but i think wonderwoman needs something else. I think Jessica Biel is a great actress but i think her build is completely wrong. Of course people are going to disagree:cwink:

[Justice Bringer]

Honestly I think that is a good thing. i think Jessica is attractive but I honestly think that she isnt pretty enough or tall enough to play WW. This is just my personal opinion of course, but i think wonderwoman needs something else. I think Jessica Biel is a great actress but i think her build is completely wrong. Of course people are going to disagree:cwink:

I completely wholeheartedy agree 100%


Except about the height; she's 5'8. Realistically thats about as tall as youre going to get with actresses.

[AgentPat]

Honestly I think that is a good thing. i think Jessica is attractive but I honestly think that she isnt pretty enough or tall enough to play WW. This is just my personal opinion of course, but i think wonderwoman needs something else. I think Jessica Biel is a great actress but i think her build is completely wrong. Of course people are going to disagree:cwink:I didn't have an opinion of her either way. If she was cast, I wouldn't have had a problem. If she wasn't - and it looks like she won't be LOL - then that's fine too. The concern now is who *will* be cast, 'cause while I didn't mind Biel, I'm a little nervous over who the other options are. It's also a confirmed delay in getting the "big" announcement that we've all been waiting for - the casting of Superman. *sigh*

[smsvmos]

Hey how about Denise Quiñones :D

http://www.terra.com.mx/galeria_de_fotos/images/140/279835.jpg

[DvilDog]

Hey how about Denise Quiñones :D

http://www.terra.com.mx/galeria_de_fotos/images/140/279835.jpg


how about Morena Baccarin

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:-TnZdjMnySrZQM:browncoats.com/UserFiles/431ba1b696633/Image/ChelliesPictures/morena1.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://browncoats.com/UserFiles/431ba1b696633/Image/ChelliesPictures/morena1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.browncoats.com/index.php%3FContentID%3D42e30a03c5c43&h=1371&w=1100&sz=213&tbnid=-TnZdjMnySrZQM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=120&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmorena%2Bbaccarin%26um%3D1&start=2&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=2)

[The Incredible Hulk]

^ I've really got no problem with that one :)

[DvilDog]

or Evangeline Lilly

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/264381~Evangeline-Lilly-Posters.jpg

[OobeDoobBenubi]

^ I've really got no problem with that one :)

Rules are rules

[Morg]

that little gif isn't breaking the rule. Posting routh pic and spamming it saying he's the one true superman and belittling everyone saying otherwise is against the rules

[OobeDoobBenubi]

So I can do my own Routh VS Welling thing & post it in this thread & thats not breaking the rules ? Cool expect something later :woot:

[AgentPat]

Morg, you just opened up a world of hurt for this forum. You realize that, right? :(

[AgentPat]

So I can do my own Routh VS Welling thing & post it in this thread & thats not breaking the rules ? Cool expect something later :woot:PLEASE DON'T!!! I'm asking nicely here. I don't want this thread closed. Read the opening posts for this thread and the RULES as established by the thread starter. Thanks.

[Morg]

So I can do my own Routh VS Welling thing & post it in this thread & thats not breaking the rules ? Cool expect something later :woot:

sure......



and you will never make another thread in here for life

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Morg, you just opened up a world of hurt for this forum. You realize that, right? :(

Its one or the other cant have both it works both ways

[OobeDoobBenubi]

and never make another thread in here for life

I almost never make threads here anyway in this forum so I dont have a problem with that either

[Morg]

I almost never make threads here anyway in this forum so I dont have a problem with that either

fine, I'll ban you from this forum. We can ban people from certain boards
and that other name too!

[OobeDoobBenubi]

fine, I'll ban you from this forum. We can ban people from certain boards

Because I want to post something you are allowing OTHER people to post ? Thats fair

[Morg]

you were complaining about that little gif, it wasn't causing trouble and the poster wasn't trying to cause a flame war in here. You on the other hand seem to want to cause trouble, do so and I'll give it to you

Now drop it caboose

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Maybe you should leave this forum to C.Lee. Since he has a no Routh attitude here in this forum & rightfully so. But hey I will drop it now but you have left open this place for the future.

[C. Lee]

Because I want to post something you are allowing OTHER people to post ? Thats fair

I just deleted the post...and your quoting of it (by the way....it is not advisable to quote a post that isn't allowed)....and now, stop trying to cause trouble....or you will not be able to do anything on the entire site.

[C. Lee]

Maybe you should leave this forum to C.Lee. Since he has a no Routh attitude here in this forum & rightfully so. But hey I will drop it now but you have left open this place for the future.

Maybe YOU should leave it to me....you are treading on thin ground.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Maybe YOU should leave it to me

I will gladly do that. Morgs way of handling this means hell for later. Even AgentPat knows that.

< < < shuts up now

[AgentPat]

I'm not taking ANY sides here. I just want peace in this forum.

Now everybody smile...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/mad.jpg

:D

[DvilDog]

I'm not taking ANY sides here. I just want peace in this forum.

Now everybody smile...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/mad.jpg

:D

You always make me laugh

[C. Lee]

I will gladly do that. Morgs way of handling this means hell for later. Even AgentPat knows that.

< < < shuts up now

Maybe you should learn to be quiet earlier.

You need to grow up and learn how to be civil. Your message in the reporting of the original post was sarcastic and condescending (not a good first impression)....then you continue to act this way, not only in general posts but in response to a moderator (if you disagree with a mod's decision, there is the nice way and the wrong way to discuss it...you chose the wrong way)....then after a mod has told you to drop it....you don't.

Now....drop it and learn how to post nicely.

[Justice Bringer]

Tyrese is supposedly also up for Green Lantern now;

http://movieblog.ugo.com/index.php/movieblog/more/green_lantern_jla_candidate_2_tyrese_gibson/

[Tomwelling4sups]

He's my number one choice :up:

[Justice Bringer]

Yeah I could live with him in the role. Hes much better than those wannabe rappers.

[TheLongestDay]

Yeah I could live with him in the role. Hes much better than those wannabe rappers.

i could live with him i suppose,its just not exactly great casting.

When Bale was announced as Batman i was like "of course! thats amazing" but if Tyrese plays GL itd be more " Meh,he will do i suppose"

I want Erik King or Morris Chestnut personally

[Justice Bringer]

Morris is too old for what they called for. Erik King looks too flamboyant...


With Reynolds as Flash, Tyrese as GL.......I have a strange feeling its going to be Paul Walker for Aquaman

[TheLongestDay]

Morris is too old for what they called for. Erik King looks too flamboyant

I dont understand how you mean?

http://dexterfan.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/bio-king.jpg
http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/18/63/07/24/18757881.jpg

[Justice Bringer]

He doesnt look enough like JS. Besides how old is he?

They were casting this 18-35. He looks 40.

[triplet]

Quit holding out you have more than some power!!! Use the smallville/jedi mind trick to convince wb. I have faith in you.

LOL!

:D

I'll give it another try, but I won't promise anything...

**thinks superman thoughts and waves hand in the air in the general direction of Vancouver**

*pants & sweats*

You know - I tried and it wore me out, but I don't think I got through...

;)

I don't think that I'd like to try Pat's tactic of sacrificing chickens... is a virtual sacrifice enough?

http://www.helenjane.com/photos/marriedlife/easter2004/Easter2004/images/friedChicken.jpg

Alright. Name it..

Jeez, Kane...

Do I have to tell you what to do?

*sigh*

You can't apologize in PM's because I think I'm the only one of the affected people that doesn't have you on ignore. (You can't PM people that have you on ignore.) The only reason I haven't put you on ignore is because I'm tired of trying to keep up with your unending alias changes...

So, probably the only thing you can do is open a new thread and lay it all out how you've been a bad boy and now sincerely regret what you'd done...

The more sincere, the better it'll be, but to be honest if I have to tell you how to apologize, I'm not sure how sincere it will sound.

If you got the guts to lay it all for all to see, I think you'd make some serious headway but that's just me...

I can't speak for anyone else you'd targeted with that video.

[TheLongestDay]

He doesnt look enough like JS. Besides how old is he?

They were casting this 18-35. He looks 40.

he looks like JLU john,and alot of kids will mostly know John from the cartoon

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i51/thelongestday_photos/gljohn.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i51/thelongestday_photos/erik-kingcopy.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i51/thelongestday_photos/JOHNSTEWARTcopy.jpg

[Justice Bringer]

He looks more like that black guy from Seasame Street.

[TheLongestDay]

He looks more like that black guy from Seasame Street.

well i respect your opinion but i dont agree....and neither do they
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[Justice Bringer]

Bert and Ernie are the original Brandon Routh and Tom Welling

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[Justice Bringer]

Jeez, Kane...

Do I have to tell you what to do?

*sigh*

You can't apologize in PM's because I think I'm the only one of the affected people that doesn't have you on ignore. (You can't PM people that have you on ignore.) The only reason I haven't put you on ignore is because I'm tired of trying to keep up with your unending alias changes...

So, probably the only thing you can do is open a new thread and lay it all out how you've been a bad boy and now sincerely regret what you'd done...

The more sincere, the better it'll be, but to be honest if I have to tell you how to apologize, I'm not sure how sincere it will sound.

If you got the guts to lay it all for all to see, I think you'd make some serious headway but that's just me...

I can't speak for anyone else you'd targeted with that video.

Alright.

Sounds reasonable. I'll try my best soon to do that.

Thanks.

[ariellem]

Alright.
Sounds reasonable. I'll try my best soon to do that.
Thanks.

Sticking to ONE and ONLY ONE username per site, period, would give you a lot more credibility in general.

[RakuMon]

FWIW, I *totally* appreciate your having transcribed that article, Raku. Hopefully, the Hype will get on the ball soon and give us an actual JL *forum* to discuss the film. 'Cause forums like "Wanted" here at the Hype, complete with its Spoiler, Non Spoiler and Graphic Novel subsections, are crazy busy with people who are just dying to talk about it.[/sarcasm]

I LOVE this. The various personality aspect of the plot intrigues me more than the OLMACs LOL. It's what I really liked about that scene in SV's Justice episode, where Clark finds out what the other heroes have been up to since he last saw them. That exchange was priceless!

I haven't gotten my EW yet but will probably get it today. Was there anything else of interest about JL in the article? So far, the character breakdown is gold. :D :up:

Saw your post in the DC Films board. Thanks for getting my back! :up:

As far as JL coverage in EW, I transcribed everything they had.

You know, I've been thinking. Maybe WB really is trying to gauge fan reaction to their casting choices. The fact that Biel "passed" on the role after Variety and EW both independently reported on her "early talks" is more than a coincidence. In my experience, 9 times out of 10, when the trades report an actor is in talks, that usually means they have the role. But fan reaction to her casting was less than overwhelming. But when Welling's name was leaked a few weeks back, buzz for the movie went through the stratosphere. Hopefully the money bags at WB are paying attention (look at the response on EW.com and MTV!) and are willing to give in to whatever demands Welling's camp and/or GoughLar have to get this thing done!

[Kal-El 8]

'LEAGUE' SNEAK PEEK
EW caught an early glimpse of the Justice League script. Below, a (mostly) spoiler-free first look. -- NS

SUPERMAN a.k.a. Clark Kent, news reporter. The morally upstanding Man of Steel battles Batman and has more to worry about than Kryptonite.

WONDER WOMAN a.k.a. Diana of Themyscira, Amazonian princess. Revered by the other supers for her beauty and ass-kicking abilities.

MARTIAN MANHUNTER a.k.a. J'onn J'onzz, detective. His power to read minds comes in handy as the villain engages in some nifty mind control.

GREEN LANTERN a.k.a. John Stewart, architect. Designed the Hall of Justice. His emerald power ring shoots beams of energy.

BATMAN a.k.a. Bruce Wayne. The most human of the bunch is mistrustful of others, which leads to quite a few problems for the clan.

FLASHa.k.a. Barry Allen, cop. The most enthusiastic superhero, Flash is happy just to be included, but his ravenous appetite leads to trouble.


AQUAMAN a.k.a. Arthur, the Atlantean king. Not a fan of humans, Aquaman is more interested in helping his fellow heroes than lending a hand to land dwellers.

I like the line-up exsept for Barry as The Flash (I love Barry in the comics,) However I think it's a huge mistake in having him in this movie . Wally Should be in this movie, more Dc comic fanboys & girls of this Gen-X are more familor with Wally West as The Flash (due to The Comics, The JL/JLU cartoons , plus his upcoming appearence on The Batman this season .) It's only the Old School Dc fans that would remember or even know Barry Allen story (Besides just being The Uncle of Wally) Also I Think with all the serious teamates in this group . We Need a comic relief character in the group just to shake things up . And The only One that's prefect for the job is Wally West.

[triplet]

Alright.

Sounds reasonable. I'll try my best soon to do that.

Thanks.

Oh, I had a long reply in here, I've just been reminded of the last time this happened and it didn't stick.

So, nevermind.

[Showtime]

Do you guys think you can do the kissing of the feet and parting of the sea thing via PM, it's driving this thread way off topic. Thanks.

I would have to say after watching Smallville last night, I was really impressed with how Welling handled both Bizzaro and Clark. There was some great "Superman" moments as well, when he nodded at the kid, that was classic Superman. Welling = Superman...hmmm.

[triplet]

Do you guys think you can do the kissing of the feet and parting of the sea thing via PM, it's driving this thread way off topic. Thanks.

LOL!

Kay...

I would have to say after watching Smallville last night, I was really impressed with how Welling handled both Bizzaro and Clark. There was some great "Superman" moments as well, when he nodded at the kid, that was classic Superman. Welling = Superman...hmmm.

My daughter said how much she loved Tom's deeper voice as Bizarro...

I thought it did make him sound more supermanly...

:heart: :heart: :heart:
:super: :super: :super:

[TWistim]

You know, I've been thinking. Maybe WB really is trying to gauge fan reaction to their casting choices. The fact that Biel "passed" on the role after Variety and EW both independently reported on her "early talks" is more than a coincidence. In my experience, 9 times out of 10, when the trades report an actor is in talks, that usually means they have the role. But fan reaction to her casting was less than overwhelming. But when Welling's name was leaked a few weeks back, buzz for the movie went through the stratosphere. Hopefully the money bags at WB are paying attention (look at the response on EW.com and MTV!) and are willing to give in to whatever demands Welling's camp and/or GoughLar have to get this thing done!

One can only hope!!!

Also, wanted to say that I appreciated your EW post, too.

[RakuMon]

LOL!

Kay...



My daughter said how much she loved Tom's deeper voice as Bizarro...

I thought it did make him sound more supermanly...

:heart: :heart: :heart:
:super: :super: :super:

People were speculating on here that his deeper voice was just sound editing, but upon second viewing, I don't think so. I think that's just either Tom's natural voice, or him speaking in a lower register on purpose. I don't think it was manipulated at all.

One can only hope!!!

Also, wanted to say that I appreciated your EW post, too.
Thanks. :O

[triplet]

People were speculating on here that his deeper voice was just sound editing, but upon second viewing, I don't think so. I think that's just either Tom's natural voice, or him speaking in a lower register on purpose. I don't think it was manipulated at all.


Oh, I don't want to go into the thread at all until I'm done with my first draft of the review... I'll probably have to watch it again before I can do that, so probably not until tonight... I'd like to see what other people thought.

Not going into the ep threads is hard, it's where all the action is.

Oh, well.

Uhm, and I thought the lower register might have been helped a little in the first scene between Clark and Bizarro, but after that I thought it was all Tom.

I think he pushed his voice down lower than normal but it's hard to tell since he sorta pushes it up as Clark to seem younger.

[TWistim]

I also think that Tom's voice wasn't mechanically altered. I have heard others say that actually he speaks alot deeper than on Smallville. I think it's all part of his characterization of Clark and portraying someone who's younger.

[The Joker_1000]

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[BenReilly19]

You know, I've been thinking. Maybe WB really is trying to gauge fan reaction to their casting choices. The fact that Biel "passed" on the role after Variety and EW both independently reported on her "early talks" is more than a coincidence. In my experience, 9 times out of 10, when the trades report an actor is in talks, that usually means they have the role. But fan reaction to her casting was less than overwhelming.

I highly doubt fan reaction has anything to do with the decisions the studio makes on these films or with what happened to Biel. The fans are such a small fraction of the overall group of people who would see this film, that we wouldn't even make a dent at the box office if we chose not to see it.

Whether Biel was right for the part or not, she is the current IT girl and her casting would have definitely brought in the male crowd. From a business standpoint it made plenty of sense. I'm certain the studio really wanted her for this film and they could care less what a couple of fans on internet message boards thought but for whatever reason, Biel decided to pass.

[The Joker_1000]

Yeah I could live with him in the role. Hes much better than those wannabe rappers.

Dude, don't speak on something you know nothing about. It's not opinion, it's a fact, 2Pac is the best rapper to ever grab a mic, no one comes close to him.

[Hypestyle]

... in JLA, if Routh doesn't do it, Welling should do it.. no need to have three active superman actors around...

[AgentPat]

... in JLA, if Routh doesn't do it, Welling should do it.. no need to have three active superman actors around...The trade papers have indicated Routh and Bale will not be involved in JL, so lets hope Welling gets it.


Here's another article for the pile. Bear in mind this is an op ed written by a self-professed non comicbook fan. It's interesting to hear his perceptions about TW playing Superman for seven years, and Warner's motivations for doing a JL film.

ropeofsilicon.com
Friday, September 28, 2007

What Does 'Justice League' Need to Succeed?
By Brad Brevet

As I am sure most of the regular readers here know I am not a big comicbook reader, in fact I have never actually read a comicbook. However, I love a good comicbook movie and I am not exactly sure what Justice League is going to become. Warner Bros. has put the film on the fast track for production, but will they be able to move as quickly as they would like with the stars they are interested in?

Three days after we learned Jessica Biel had been offered the role of Wonder Woman in the Justice League we get word she turned the film down from Entertainment Weekly. This certainly doesn't help production, and I am now starting to wonder what caliber actors they are going to be able to land for this massive ensemble piece.

Just the other day MTV posted an article with a wishlist of actors for roles in the film. The list went like this:

• Superman: Tom Welling
• Batman: Christian Bale
• Flash: Ryan Reynolds
• Green Lantern: Jamie Foxx
• Aquaman: Ryan Phillippe
• Wonder Woman: Kate Beckinsale
• Martian Manhunter: Keanu Reeves

Just look at those names for a second, not a bad list of names I would say. All of them have films I enjoy and each name is recognizeable by pretty much anyone, except Tom Welling who may be the odd man out, even though he does star on "Smallville", he is certainly the smallest of the bunch. However, he has been playing Superman now for seven years now, which I have to assume makes him the top candidate for such a role. Ironically out of the list he may be the best suited for the specific role (along with Bale of course) and will probably come the cheapest. Funny how Hollywood works.

The reason I point this list out is because it would cost TONS to get all of these folks in one movie, not to mention how much it would cost to get all of these folks in a movie involving superheroes and tons of special effects. IESB said the budget had been approaching $160 million at one point already and we all know that budgets rarely go down once they begin production.

I can't help but look at this project and think Warner Bros. is going to try and make it for as cheap as they can and as quickly as they can. Superman Returns had a budget that blossomed to astronomical heights and was even rumored to balloon over $300 million. A lot of that had to do with how long it actually took to make and the variety of individuals involved before it became a reality, but after that film didn't live up to expectations I have to assume they don't want a repeat performance.

So, I think the biggest question the Justice League movie faces is just how far down the Hollywood list can you go to find your actors for an ensemble piece of this magnitude?

For Zack Snyder and his Watchmen production he was able to cast great actors and didn't need to go after the big name, can the same be done for Justice League? Christian Bale wasn't exactly huge when Chris Nolan cast him as Batman, Brandon Routh was certainly no one before Superman, Eric Bana wasn't on the tip of everyone's tongue when he played Hulk, Ioan Gruffudd was certainly not water cooler chatter when he signed on for Mr. Fantastic and Alan Cumming hasn't been heard of since he played Nightcrawler, the most memorable comicbook movie character in a very long time in my eyes.

So what's the formula?

I would guess you don't need a big name, you just need the right name. I don't think a bunch of A-list actors signing contracts fighting for top-billing is your first priority. I would guess if most people hear there is a new movie involving both Superman and Batman, not to mention some hot chick running around in a Wonder Woman outfit there will be asses in the seats. The formula here if I was making the film would be adding up great actors and not worrying about the names, the characters sell themselves.

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/news.php?id=7332

[TheLongestDay]

... in JLA, if Routh doesn't do it, Welling should do it.. no need to have three active superman actors around...

exactly

[triplet]

I highly doubt fan reaction has anything to do with the decisions the studio makes on these films or with what happened to Biel. The fans are such a small fraction of the overall group of people who would see this film, that we wouldn't even make a dent at the box office if we chose not to see it.

Whether Biel was right for the part or not, she is the current IT girl and her casting would have definitely brought in the male crowd. From a business standpoint it made plenty of sense. I'm certain the studio really wanted her for this film and they could care less what a couple of fans on internet message boards thought but for whatever reason, Biel decided to pass.


Take a look at what happened with Hulk. It wasn't embraced as a film, it was too dark and moody and Bana wasn't universally accepted as Hulk.

It was a pretty good film (I did enjoy parts of it) but Marvel is doing a reboot with Ed Norton because the first film and Bana weren't universally well received by the fans....

I think SR, and thus Routh, is being is being discarded for the same reasons.

So, I believe fan reaction can mean a lot and WB needs a hit so maybe they are paying attention this time.

[bootspark]

I was looking at some very interesting Tom Welling quotes from TW.org (Triplet, is that your site? very cool if it is). Heres what he has to say...

"When I have children someday I'm going to be able to show them I was part of this great icon. It's a great feeling."
Access Hollywood, August 2001

" It might not be because they play Clark Kent but it's because they played a romantic role in this film and now they want to be an action star but no one sees you as an action star."
Dreamwatch, July 2002

"I couldn't believe it when they told me I got it. I never really knew what I wanted to do with my life, but somehow I knew I wanted to be that guy who saves the day."
New Weekly, July 2002

"There were so many rumours out there, and it's the kind of situation where if you speak about it you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. I'd rather be damned if I don't."
Dreamwatch, March 2005

"When you're committing to a film it's not as easy as, "Wow, this sounds interesting." I'm on set nine, ten months out of the year as it is. And so the amount of time I'm not on Smallville becomes much more important to me."
Fangoria, October 2005

Very interesting and revealing quotes. IMO, he really wants this role, now lets see if he gets it. :)

[BenReilly19]

Take a look at what happened with Hulk. It wasn't embraced as a film, it was too dark and moody and Bana wasn't universally accepted as Hulk.

It was a pretty good film (I did enjoy parts of it) but Marvel is doing a reboot with Ed Norton because the first film and Bana weren't universally well received by the fans....

The thing with the Hulk was, Bana (or the rest of the cast) was never the problem with the masses. People were expecting an action packed (Hulk Smash!) superhero flick and what they got was a film that was steeped in psychological drama. It was a very ambitious attempt on Lee's part but it just wasn't the movie people were expecting. Some fans loved it, others hated it.

Another thing to keep in mind is, Ang Lee's Hulk film was produced by Universal. As far as the new film goes, besides distribution, they have nothing to do with it. Marvel is producing and financing the new film. It only makes sense that they would have their own ideas and would want to wipe the slate clean (and casting Ed Norton in the lead was a genius start).

So, I believe fan reaction can mean a lot and WB needs a hit so maybe they are paying attention this time.

The fans on the internet and the general audience as a whole (who make up most of the box office revenue) are two different groups and that was pretty much my whole point with Biel. Hypothetically speaking, even if a fan base were against an actor being cast in a part but the studio knows that actor has a broad appeal with the public, in most cases, they won't think twice about casting that person.

[The Incredible Hulk]

all of the articles I've read make it seem like Biel passed on the part as opposed to WB pulling out on her.

As for Hulk, a lot of the hardcore fans like myself who've kept up wit the comics lately seemed to enjoy it. The fans that didnt like it seemed to be the casual ones who dont read the books all too much but have some framework of a knowledge of the character.

Hulk's issue was not the fans, it was the general public that never really bought into it. They were expecting something in line with what they knew, which was the Bill Bixby TV show, not the comics. This was compounded by Universal selling the film as summer popcorn faire but Ang Lee made a greek tragedy which killed WOM.

[The Joker_1000]

The Hulk movie sucked more of less, I kind of like it, I'd rate it a 6/10 anyday but it wasn't nearly as good as it could've been.

[triplet]

I was looking at some very interesting Tom Welling quotes from TW.org (Triplet, is that your site? very cool if it is).

No it belongs to James, I only add updates to it from time to time.

I'm James' minion.

;) :D

Heres what he has to say...

"When I have children someday I'm going to be able to show them I was part of this great icon. It's a great feeling."
Access Hollywood, August 2001

" It might not be because they play Clark Kent but it's because they played a romantic role in this film and now they want to be an action star but no one sees you as an action star."
Dreamwatch, July 2002

"I couldn't believe it when they told me I got it. I never really knew what I wanted to do with my life, but somehow I knew I wanted to be that guy who saves the day."
New Weekly, July 2002

"There were so many rumours out there, and it's the kind of situation where if you speak about it you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. I'd rather be damned if I don't."
Dreamwatch, March 2005

"When you're committing to a film it's not as easy as, "Wow, this sounds interesting." I'm on set nine, ten months out of the year as it is. And so the amount of time I'm not on Smallville becomes much more important to me."
Fangoria, October 2005

Very interesting and revealing quotes. IMO, he really wants this role, now lets see if he gets it. :)

Interesting.... it'd been while since I'd read those.

Thanks for bringing them out. Explains why he's always so quiet.

Makes running a site for hm a lot harder... I bet Britney Spears and Paris Hilton fans have a very easy time of running sites for them.

All in all, I wouldn't change Tom one bit. I'm glad he seems grounded and knows what he wants.

The thing with the Hulk was, Bana (or the rest of the cast) was never the problem with the masses. People were expecting an action packed (Hulk Smash!) superhero flick and what they got was a film that was steeped in psychological drama. It was a very ambitious attempt on Lee's part but it just wasn't the movie people were expecting. Some fans loved it, others hated it.

Another thing to keep in mind is, Ang Lee's Hulk film was produced by Universal. As far as the new film goes, besides distribution, they have nothing to do with it. Marvel is producing and financing the new film. It only makes sense that they would have their own ideas and would want to wipe the slate clean (and casting Ed Norton in the lead was a genius start).

The fans on the internet and the general audience as a whole (who make up most of the box office revenue) are two different groups and that was pretty much my whole point with Biel. Hypothetically speaking, even if a fan base were against an actor being cast in a part but the studio knows that actor has a broad appeal with the public, in most cases, they won't think twice about casting that person.

True, good points.

I hadn't realized the franchise had changed studios, that explains a lot.

all of the articles I've read make it seem like Biel passed on the part as opposed to WB pulling out on her.

As for Hulk, a lot of the hardcore fans like myself who've kept up wit the comics lately seemed to enjoy it. The fans that didnt like it seemed to be the casual ones who dont read the books all too much but have some framework of a knowledge of the character.

Hulk's issue was not the fans, it was the general public that never really bought into it. They were expecting something in line with what they knew, which was the Bill Bixby TV show, not the comics. This was compounded by Universal selling the film as summer popcorn faire but Ang Lee made a greek tragedy which killed WOM.

Gotcha.

[The Joker_1000]

... in JLA, if Routh doesn't do it, Welling should do it.. no need to have three active superman actors around...

What kind of logic is that? There'd be nothing wrong with three live action Supermans. It's not like they're all going to be in the same movie.

[The Incredible Hulk]

the "3 live action Superman" argument doesnt make any sense because in 2009 Smallville will be over and if Routh doesnt go to JLA he wont be Superman anymore. We might just get a brand new actor in the role and then he'll be the only current one at that time.

[AgentPat]

the "3 live action Superman" argument doesnt make any sense because in 2009 Smallville will be over and if Routh doesnt go to JLA he wont be Superman anymore. We might just get a brand new actor in the role and then he'll be the only current one at that time.On one level, that may be true. But there are people who believe Singer's franchise will continue, and SV will still be in first run broadcast in other countries, not to mention continue to air in syndication in many countries even after it has ended its run in the US. So technically, there very well *could* be three live action Supermen at the same time.




On a separate but related note, boy, the agendas are flying high tonight, eh Hulk? I would have expected "that" poop to come from SHP. I wonder if Younis is bummed he didn't think of it first? Think Jayne will comment? LOL ;) :p

[RakuMon]

Take a look at what happened with Hulk. It wasn't embraced as a film, it was too dark and moody and Bana wasn't universally accepted as Hulk.

It was a pretty good film (I did enjoy parts of it) but Marvel is doing a reboot with Ed Norton because the first film and Bana weren't universally well received by the fans....

I think SR, and thus Routh, is being is being discarded for the same reasons.

So, I believe fan reaction can mean a lot and WB needs a hit so maybe they are paying attention this time.

Here's another example. Lionsgate is rebooting the 2004 Punisher for Marvel as well. They've hired a completely new cast and crew (with Rome's Ray Stevenson replacing Tom Jane in the lead). It isn't unheard of to reboot a franchise that didn't earn money or leave an impression with the general public.

On one level, that may be true. But there are people who believe Singer's franchise will continue, and SV will still be in first run broadcast in other countries, not to mention continue to air in syndication in many countries even after it has ended its run in the US. So technically, there very well *could* be three live action Supermen at the same time.

Whatchoo talkin' bout Willis?! :huh:


On a separate but related note, boy, the agendas are flying high tonight, eh Hulk? I would have expected "that" poop to come from SHP. I wonder if Younis is bummed he didn't think of it first? Think Jayne will comment? LOL ;) :p

[bootspark]

Hahaha. Something not-new from Satan, I mean Alfred Gough. :)

From Justiceleagueonfilm.com

"Tom Welling as Superman is the Justice League rumor that refuses to die. The latest is that the problem is that Smallville's production schedule will overlap with that of Justice League's. Rumors say that negotiations continue and have reached a point where Smallville executive producers Al Gough and Miles Millar have expressed a desire to work things out if they are made executive producers on Justice League as well as spin-off Superman films and a potential reboot of Supergirl, provided the character is a success on Smallville. Commenting exclusively to Justice League On Film, Al Gough laughs, "That would be great... if any of it were actually true."

Is he just spinning cause of a NDA, or is he being honest? Wait, when has he ever told the truth?
And...if Welling's contract is with WB/WBTV/CW, then Gough/Millar should have NOTHING to do with it. It shouldnt matter what they want or think. I wish we could get some sort of facts/info/confirmation about this.

[The Incredible Hulk]

On one level, that may be true. But there are people who believe Singer's franchise will continue, and SV will still be in first run broadcast in other countries, not to mention continue to air in syndication in many countries even after it has ended its run in the US. So technically, there very well *could* be three live action Supermen at the same time.

well hell if you're gonna go that far, you can pull Cain and Reeve into the mix too since those shows/movies still air in syndication, and I think the George reeves show is still on Nick at Night at times LOL


On a separate but related note, boy, the agendas are flying high tonight, eh Hulk? I would have expected "that" poop to come from SHP. I wonder if Younis is bummed he didn't think of it first? Think Jayne will comment? LOL ;) :p

what you mean the latest website running to Gough for a quote? Or are you talking about something else? :huh:

[triplet]

Hahaha. Something not-new from Satan, I mean Alfred Gough. :)

From Justiceleagueonfilm.com

"Tom Welling as Superman is the Justice League rumor that refuses to die. The latest is that the problem is that Smallville's production schedule will overlap with that of Justice League's. Rumors say that negotiations continue and have reached a point where Smallville executive producers Al Gough and Miles Millar have expressed a desire to work things out if they are made executive producers on Justice League as well as spin-off Superman films and a potential reboot of Supergirl, provided the character is a success on Smallville. Commenting exclusively to Justice League On Film, Al Gough laughs, "That would be great... if any of it were actually true."

Is he just spinning cause of a NDA, or is he being honest? Wait, when has he ever told the truth?

I think he's spinning it...

[The Incredible Hulk]

that could mean a lot of things:

a. None of what we've heard about Tom's involvement is true
b. get out of my face and stop asking me about this
c. they're taking Tom and despite my protests there's nothing I can do about and I'm not getting anything.

who knows? BTW when did BOF who was REALLY anti-JLA start a JLA movie site? :confused:

[RakuMon]

Jayne at Counting Down is also reporting that Gough is really the only one opposed to Tom in JLA. Apparently, Miles is cool with it. So, seriously, what's the hold up?! :cmad:

[bootspark]

Notice how he "laughs" before saying "that would be great" then a pause "IF any of it were actually true"?

Gough's got a bad poker face. :)

And...Gough has done almost a 180 from a month ago from "NEVER gonna happen" to "laughs, that would be great"

ummmm....something to ponder.....

[AgentPat]

well hell if you're gonna go that far, you can pull Cain and Reeve into the mix too since those shows/movies still air in syndication, and I think the George reeves show is still on Nick at Night at times LOLWell, yes and no. Some countries will still be showing SV in *first* run. The UK is six months behind us, Oz is at least a year, and India just started airing SV S1 a year or two ago. :eek:

JLA will probably release day and date with a slight lag in smaller territories. If JL casts a new Supes and if MOS is postponed rather than indefinitely shelved, there will be three live action Supermen in "first run" somewhere in the world - and not just Timbuktu. ;)

Does it matter? Pfft! To me, no. Not at all. But to go from the argument about Warners not allowing Welling to be seen in the suit on SV to having not two but three Supermen at the same time in the public eye... I dunno. That sticks in my craw.

what you mean the latest website running to Gough for a quote? Or are you talking about something else? :huh:Boots posted it.

Incidentally, I believe they are two different sites. Jett runs www.justiceleague-on-film.com . (Note the hyphens) I have no clue who runs www.justiceleagueonfilm.com , but it's the first time I've seen it. If you scroll down and read some of the other posts there, you'll see the agenda. ;)

[The Incredible Hulk]

I have a feeling the rumors of Mr. Gough's alleged stance are blown somewhat out of proportion. I've tried to brainstorm about this but I seriously cant think of any legal leg to stand on that he'd have to make life difficult on WB?

A guy I work with (Princeton Law grad) and I tried to come up with an analogous scenario to this and we came up with: This is like you having a super cool laptop at work, and your boss telling you they need to take your laptop and give it to someone else in the company for another higher profile project. And then you get upset because you've used the laptop when no one else wanted it, and then you go into your boss and demand a raise in order to give him the laptop back.

Make sense to you? :confused:

[AgentPat]

Notice how he "laughs" before saying "that would be great" then a pause "IF any of it were actually true"?

Gough's got a bad poker face. :)

And...Gough has done almost a 180 from a month ago from "NEVER gonna happen" to "laughs, that would be great"

ummmm....something to ponder.....Boots, I question whether that's even a legitimate post. Steve Younis, I'd believe. Wait... lemme rephrase that. If Younis posted a quote from Gough, I'd believe he actually spoke to Gough. I have no clue who that other hole-in-the-wall site is, however. These "rumors" have been making the rounds for over a MONTH. In that respect, yeah, it's the rumor that just won't die.

Honestly though, I could give two hoots about what they have to do in order to get Welling into JL. I just want them to make it happen. So regardless of the contract negotiations involved, it's interesting to see Welling's name continue to get connected to JL.

But lets look at it from the other angle, just for poops and giggles. If the whole thing is a complete fabrication on the part of Warner Bros., and they've been disseminating faux information through people at the studio they know to have loose lips, what does that achieve if the goal isn't to deliver what they're getting everybody so hyped to see? If the whole thing is a ruse, they're only going to create a backlash. SV was trekking along minding their own P's and Q's, and then all of a sudden Warners drops a bomb on the Net that upsets the SV cast and crew, gets the fans all wound up, and then the studio ends up casting some no name noob from Oshkosh Wisconsin in the role of Superman. That's like... I dunno, dumber than a box of rox LOL. Talk about further dividing an already splintered fanbase. It just doesn't make sense.

LOL@Hulk's laptop analogy. Yeah, THAT makes sense.

[ZIPBAGS]

I can only wonder how this and other boards would react if Welling was announced as Superman.

[AgentPat]

I can only wonder how this and other boards would react if Welling was announced as Superman.Well, they got a taste of it already, and that might be it in a nutshell.

Imagine a situation where Warners DID want Welling, just as all of the rumors have indicated. They went through the contractual motions, Welling said yes, but then they couldn't make it work in the schedule no matter how hard they tried. There were no contract disputes, no crazy quid pro quo demands from G&M, just a simple impasse with scheduling. I'd believe that.

But then something happened that Warners didn't expect - Sanchez went on TV and posted on IESB that Welling would be cast...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/bomb.jpg

Fans go nuts. (Hey, I did! LOL) Warners sees the response and then finds themselves stuck between a rock and a hard place. They know how important the casting is - especially for Superman - and their instincts were right when they offered the role to Welling, but the schedule just wouldn't work. Now what?

Uh.......

Could this be where they're at right now? Could they have no clue who they're going to cast as Superman? Could they still be trying to iron out Welling's schedule problems? Could they have somebody else already signed and gave up on Welling weeks ago, as Sanchez reported? Could Welling be secretly signed and they're just waiting for the rest of the cast to come together before making any announcements, all while leaving Al Gough to do damage control behind the scenes?

Gosh, who the heck knows? :(

[C. Lee]

Gosh, who the heck knows? :(

The Shadow....

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2250/theshadowgundrawti0.gif

[triplet]

The Shadow....

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2250/theshadowgundrawti0.gif

LOL!

You rock, C....

:D :up:

[AgentPat]

The Shadow....

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2250/theshadowgundrawti0.gifBWAHAA!!! Priceless.

Hey, will ya ask him for us? We need answers. NOW! :cmad:

;) :p :D

[C. Lee]

BWAHAA!!! Priceless.

Hey, will ya ask him for us? We need answers. NOW! :cmad:

;) :p :D

I'll ask....but he's pretty cryptic in his responses.:ninja:

[AgentPat]

I'll ask....but he's pretty cryptic in his responses.:ninja:Hee! His name must be Jack. LOL

Right now, I'll take whatever I can get. ;)

[triplet]

I have a feeling the rumors of Mr. Gough's alleged stance are blown somewhat out of proportion. I've tried to brainstorm about this but I seriously cant think of any legal leg to stand on that he'd have to make life difficult on WB?

A guy I work with (Princeton Law grad) and I tried to come up with an analogous scenario to this and we came up with: This is like you having a super cool laptop at work, and your boss telling you they need to take your laptop and give it to someone else in the company for another higher profile project. And then you get upset because you've used the laptop when no one else wanted it, and then you go into your boss and demand a raise in order to give him the laptop back.

Make sense to you? :confused:

I totally get that analogy.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

C.Lee - Yo Shadow do you know anything about Tom Welling as Superman for Justice League

Shadow - I knew you were going to ask that

C.Lee - Really ?

Shadow - Thats the 100 million dollar question isnt it. Did I or did I not know that you were going to ask that question

C.Lee - What The ****

Shadow - This answer could be part of the original question you asked for all of you know

C.Lee - I should have hired Batman

:ninja:

[ariellem]

The Shadow....

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2250/theshadowgundrawti0.gif

While it had some good ideas (the building that nobody could see), overall I did NOT enjoy that movie. Love Alec Baldwin on SNL, but that movie just dragged (between gory moments) :-<

Maybe they could reboot Shadow, with TW in Baldwin's role. He has the hair and the smirk ;->

[AgentPat]

Ouch! Getting down to the wire here...

The New York Times
September 29, 2007

Movie Writers Eye Early Walkout
By MICHAEL CIEPLY

LOS ANGELES, Sept. 28 — As Hollywood’s studios rush to shoot movies before contracts with actors and directors expire in June, strategists for the industry’s writers, facing an earlier deadline of their own, are considering whether to force a stop to the action.

Over the last few days, negotiators for the Writers Guild of America West and the Writers Guild of America East, whose contract with entertainment companies expires on Oct. 31, have been taking a hard look at the almost 150 feature films that are candidates for production by early next year, according to people involved with the talks who requested anonymity because they are not authorized to speak publicly.

As many as three-quarters of those pictures — including projects as prominent as “The Justice League of America” at Warner Brothers and “Another Night,” the proposed sequel to “Night at the Museum,” at 20th Century Fox — appear not to have final scripts.

The question at hand is whether writers, in the event no deal is reached, can inflict maximum damage on their bargaining opponents by striking immediately rather than continuing to work and letting the studios add those films to their strike stockpile.

Negotiators for the guilds and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers, which represents studios and networks, are scheduled to meet again on Thursday. Guild negotiators could ask their 12,000 members for strike authorization in advance of the contract’s expiration. And they appear to be gathering information that would support a call for a walkout in November, rather than later, when the Screen Actors Guild and the Directors Guild of America will also be in talks.

If writers were to strike before scripts are delivered, tens of millions of dollars already spent, and hundreds of millions in future revenue, could be lost.

Barbara Brogliatti, a spokeswoman for the producers’ alliance, said the studios had never assumed writers would keep working after the expiration of their contract. “Every studio and every network has contingency plans,” she said, and those plans “assume there could be a walkout on Oct. 31.”

Neal Sacharow, director of communications for the Writers Guild of America West, declined to comment.

A walkout by Hollywood’s writers would bring the first widespread shutdown of the entertainment industry since a five-month writers’ strike in 1988. But given the prickly tenor of negotiations so far, companies have been banking movies and television episodes that could fill schedules for months to come. New signals that the guild is ready to strike are just as clearly intended to intensify the pressure on the studios and networks.

Still, guild leaders are looking for signs that some companies, under pressure to book another potential blockbuster or two before production grinds to a halt, have left themselves exposed.

This month the latest round of talks brought little progress on issues like the producers’ request to restructure the residuals system, or the writers’ insistence on extending payments for new media. Studios, meanwhile, continued to sign stars and filmmakers for feature films that can begin shooting by early next year and finish before a June 30 contract expiration with the actors and directors unions.

Those feature films are now being seen as high-value targets by those at the writers guild who advocate an immediate walkout should no deal be reached.

Only this month Warner Brothers began a last-minute push to prepare its “Justice League of America,” a multisuperhero extravaganza to be directed by George Miller (“Happy Feet,” “Mad Max”) early next year — if the studio can get a viable script together, never mind a complicated cast. Kieran and Michele Mulroney, who did uncredited work on “Mr. and Mrs. Smith,” have worked on the project, which still does not have a so-called green light to begin production. A spokeswoman for Warner Brothers declined comment.

Similarly, 20th Century Fox is in hurry-up mode on “Another Night,” the hoped-for sequel to “Night at the Museum,” which was released late last year and took in more than $250 million at the domestic box office. Ben Garant and Thomas Lennon, who wrote the original, have been working on a script. A Fox spokesman declined to comment about the project’s status.

Among the many films that have been pushing toward production before June are “Wolverine” at Fox, “G.I. Joe” at Paramount, “The Wolf Man” at Universal and “The Soloist” at DreamWorks. Whether any particular picture remains on track is uncertain, as the status of films changes quickly and often in the face of scheduling pressures.

On the television front, networks have similarly been booking business that would apparently bump up against a Nov. 1 strike deadline, if it is set. Only this week, for instance, ABC ordered six episodes of “Section 8,” a new science fiction series from the writer Zak Penn and the BermanBraun production company. A quickly called strike would also complicate the networks’ planning for the 2008-9 season, because they are starting to work on pilots to show advertisers in the spring.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/29/movies/29writ.html
:ninja:

[Pickle-El]

I'm sorry......but if you read that article as though you don't know any of what has been going on the last 2 months, it would just reek of doing everything you can to beat a deadline. Damned be the trepidation in such a big project on usual terms.

I mean, think about it, seperate your "Wellingness" or "Routhness" from the situation...and all you have is?

Faith in a director, that isn't Spielberg, to take the reigns of 7 of the most well known characters this side of Jesus in the shortest amount of time.

I just....don't know they should do this. Biel turning down WW should be seen as a sign. And, I REALLY hope those rumors of Welling turning it down before anyone else aren't true. It could very well be the same reasons Biel turned down that script (in progress as the article states).

Did you guys ever stop think that if the script isn't up to par, this could very well tarnish some of what you feel Welling has accomplished the last 7 years? Or is his putting on the tights, the only thing that matters at this point?

[MJZ]

^All valid points.

To me, there is just something "off" about this whole JLA thing.

[The Incredible Hulk]

I just....don't know they should do this. Biel turning down WW should be seen as a sign. And, I REALLY hope those rumors of Welling turning it down before anyone else aren't true. It could very well be the same reasons Biel turned down that script (in progress as the article states).

Did you guys ever stop think that if the script isn't up to par, this could very well tarnish some of what you feel Welling has accomplished the last 7 years? Or is his putting on the tights, the only thing that matters at this point?

the first thing that comes to mind when an actress like Biel turns down this part is actually the commitment to playing the character, not the quality of the script. Let's face it, Biel while a decent actress isnt exactly known to be very shrewd in choosing the films she does. ( I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry?) So her backing away doesn't scare me about the script from a quality standpoint.

The main thing I look at is the commitment involved in such a role like this. She wouldn't just be signing up to play WW in one movie, I'd bet my house it's a multi-picture deal for at least 2 more JLA movies and possibly a spin-off Wonder Woman film if all went well. That's a HUGE commitment, and pretty much a decade of the prime of her career when she'd have to work everything she does around those movies. Biel isnt exactly a struggling, no name actress, she's one of those "up and comers" in movies now and seems to be getting pretty steady work, and also seems to like to jump around between genres. I could understand her not wanting to be tied to Wonder Woman for the next 10-12 years.

Sure the possibility exists that the script is awful and that is why Biel backed away, but I have faith knowing the previous work of guys like George Miller and Barrie Osborne and that those two wouldnt have signed on to do this movie if the script was awful, Especially Miller who is a self-professed DC comics fan.

[RakuMon]

Boots, I question whether that's even a legitimate post. Steve Younis, I'd believe. Wait... lemme rephrase that. If Younis posted a quote from Gough, I'd believe he actually spoke to Gough. I have no clue who that other hole-in-the-wall site is, however. These "rumors" have been making the rounds for over a MONTH. In that respect, yeah, it's the rumor that just won't die.

Actually, JLOF is a sister site of Voices From Krypton, so I think they're legit. Remember, a few weeks back VFK got Miles Millar to spill the beans on what his and Gough's Superman movie would be like. To refreshen your memories:

See, Al and I had a really cool take on the movie which would have been... but you know. Uh, Lex is in... Lex is president, and he declares Superman Enemy #1 and frames him. And so it's Clark vs. the most powerful man in the world. It's our Lex, which is a really, really smart, charismatic figure rather than the Gene Hackman buffoon.

If we had done a Superman movie, that would be our take. Basically, you open up and it's Clark Kent - Reporter covering who's going to be President of the United States. You walk into the Oval Office and who's behind the desk? Lex Luthor. They're old friends from Smallville, and you sort of work from there. And he discovers that Lex has, you know, plans to destabilize the world through oil or whatever reasons, Superman must stop him. Lex frames Superman and declares him Enemy #1, you know the whole world against Superman, and he has to turn the tables and bring down the President.

Add this to what Gough recently told Wizard, and there's clearly been a change in his demeanor when discussing Tom as Superman.

You know, we’re always open to that [a "Smallville" movie]. I don’t know if that’s something that Warners would want to pursue given that they have the Superman movies now—at least one, and talk of a sequel. That’s something that we’re always open to.

Something's got to be up, right? :huh:

[avidreader]

I have nothing to add, but this discussion is all very interesting. Very interesting indeed.

The one thing I can take away from it all, regardless of whether Tom gets the part or not, is that he is the overwhelming favourite in all respects.

:yay:

[Mike_D202]

While it had some good ideas (the building that nobody could see), overall I did NOT enjoy that movie. Love Alec Baldwin on SNL, but that movie just dragged (between gory moments) :-<

Maybe they could reboot Shadow, with TW in Baldwin's role. He has the hair and the smirk ;->

Actually, not to stray off topic, but Sam Raimi is making "The Shadow".

[AgentPat]

Keeeeriissst!

Okay, everybody breathe. In. Out. In. Out.

Aight, take this with a HUUUUUUGE HONKIN' GRAIN-O-SALT!

But somebody just posted this over on IESB's board. It is NOT Rob Sanchez. It's just some schmoe. Could be MotownMavel for all I know LOL. Then again, he wouldn't say this... I think? LOL

Here's the post:

Upadate, their has been significant movment on Tom Welling front, My sources tell me there is in fact a deal in place that pleases all sides. And the other 2 top cast members or already finalizing there deal. I was told that Gough was the problem and that a deal is in place that will allow Tom to come aboard and Smallville will complete season 7 a little early allowing Tom to join the cast of JL. And Season 8 will continue with Super girl and Tom will have a guest starring role. I was informed Tom was excited about the opportunity taking the role of the MOS. And expect the second half of Season 7 to Show more and more of Tom dewing Superman like poses and allowing Gough and Mill to be a part of JL and MOS in some fashion. Robert Make another call and you will be able to confirm this info....http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ponder.gif

Take it for what it's worth folks. :ninja:

[Mike22]

Keeeeriissst!

Okay, everybody breathe. In. Out. In. Out.

Aight, take this with a HUUUUUUGE HONKIN' GRAIN-O-SALT!

But somebody just posted this over on IESB's board. It is NOT Rob Sanchez. It's just some schmoe. Could be MotownMavel for all I know LOL. Then again, he wouldn't say this... I think? LOL

Here's the post:

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ponder.gif

Take it for what it's worth folks. :ninja:

Hi Pat. Thanks for posting this.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

I can`t help but wonder..... What if this is REAL. And soon we get confirmation that Welling is the new supes?
That would be just about the most awesome thing that could happen for a superman/welling fan.

Here`s hoping this is true.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gifhttp://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Prison Mike]

^^I seriously hope that is correct. It would be AWESOME if he is Superman in JL. I wouldn't mind Supergirl taking over season 8 with Tom being a guest star. Tom and Michael could guest star in the same episodes!

[AgentPat]

Hi Pat. Thanks for posting this.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

I can`t help but wonder..... What if this is REAL. And soon we get confirmation that Welling is the new supes?
That would be just about the most awesome thing that could happen for a superman/welling fan.

Here`s hoping this is true.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gifhttp://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon7.gifMike, all I can say is, the timing on that post KILLS me. I assume you got my last PM, right? That was like... what? 10 minutes before the IESB post happened? That kills me. LMAO!!! You're my only witness dude. ;)

[Mike22]

Mike, all I can say is, the timing on that post KILLS me. I assume you got my last PM, right? That was like... what? 10 minutes before the IESB post happened? That kills me. LMAO!!! You're my only witness dude. ;)

lolhttp://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Yeah, I got it. What can I say, you were right.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

what really makes me laugh out loud is that IF this is true, then The Welling is taking over both the JLA superman and MOS. LMAO.http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Prison Mike]

seems like Robert is on the phone making the calls now...lol

[Serene]

Keeeeriissst!

Okay, everybody breathe. In. Out. In. Out.

Aight, take this with a HUUUUUUGE HONKIN' GRAIN-O-SALT!

But somebody just posted this over on IESB's board. It is NOT Rob Sanchez. It's just some schmoe. Could be MotownMavel for all I know LOL. Then again, he wouldn't say this... I think? LOL

Here's the post:

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ponder.gif

Take it for what it's worth folks. :ninja:

I've restocked the yard, Pat. Let's start wringing necks people!

http://www.vivavegie.org/vvi/vva/vvi36/images/chickens.jpeg

[GreenKToo]

hmmm, I said it at IESB and i'll say it here, color me skeptical till robert can find out something for sure.

[bootspark]

I have a feeling that this is TRUE. I know about "spin" and "reading between the lines". We'll sure know soon.

JackMercy? Are you paying attention? :)

[AgentPat]

I've restocked the yard, Pat. Let's start wringing necks people!

http://www.vivavegie.org/vvi/vva/vvi36/images/chickens.jpegWringing necks? Pah! There's a faster way.

And hey, I've already got a few minions on the job...

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/red/blue_pics/2007/03/23/americanpsycho460.jpg

[Serene]

^LOL! Great tie-in! :D

[Mike22]

Wringing necks? Pah! There's a faster way.

And hey, I've already got a few minions on the job...

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/red/blue_pics/2007/03/23/americanpsycho460.jpg

LMAO....And BALE of all people. lol lolhttp://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[AgentPat]

:D

Hey, I'm no slacker. Nuthin' but the best, right? We need expert chicken slaughter here. LOL ;)

[The Incredible Hulk]

I'm thinking this is a case of the empty can rattling the most... why does he keep mentioning MOS? :confused:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Interesting

[AgentPat]

I'm thinking this is a case of the empty can rattling the most... why does he keep mentioning MOS? :confused:My take? He's using the term ("MOS") in a general way. He's not specifying it as a film title. Clark Kent, aka Superman, IS the Man of Steel.

C'mon Hulk. You haven't figured out who that poster is? I dropped the clue on IESB and everybody ignored it, including the poster. ;)

I say no more. :p

[Zing79]

My take? He's using the term ("MOS") in a general way. He's not specifying it as a film title. Clark Kent, aka Superman, IS the Man of Steel.

C'mon Hulk. You haven't figured out who that poster is? I dropped the clue on IESB and everybody ignored it, including the poster. ;)

I say no more. :p

Could you skip the hinting process and get right to naming who it is please (with possible proofing of why you know who that is? :)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Motown Marvel I guess

[avidreader]

Yeah, I'm very interested to know too. Please. :D

[Tomwelling4sups]

^ yeah, cause some of us need a frikin upload on wth is going on.

[AgentPat]

Could you skip the hinting process and get right to naming who it is please (with possible proofing of why you know who that is? :)Hey, I dropped the hint on IESB. Nobody picked up on it. The fact that poster ignored it confirmed it for me. Want me to PM him? LOL

There! That's my final clue. This one is super easy. It was obvious from his very first post. The grammar alone should have tipped everybody off. Well, everybody who was here back in '04. (That was a bonus clue.) :p

I'm off to bed. Hopefully Sanchez will get to the bottom of this by tomorrow. Nighters folks!!!

...And NO! It's not Motown Marvel. I was joking about that. ;)

[Zing79]

Hey, I dropped the hint on IESB. Nobody picked up on it. The fact that poster ignored it confirmed it for me. Want me to PM him? LOL

There! That's my final clue. This one is super easy. It was obvious from his very first post. The grammar alone should have tipped everybody off. Well, everybody who was here back in '04. (That was a bonus clue.) :p

I'm off to bed. Hopefully Sanchez will get to the bottom of this by tomorrow. Nighters folks!!!

...And NO! It's not Motown Marvel. I was joking about that. ;)
If it's muscles, then you have to know its BS lol

[Mike22]

My take? He's using the term ("MOS") in a general way. He's not specifying it as a film title. Clark Kent, aka Superman, IS the Man of Steel.

C'mon Hulk. You haven't figured out who that poster is? I dropped the clue on IESB and everybody ignored it, including the poster. ;)

I say no more. :p

That was actually the first thing that came to mind. That dude has pulled this kind of stuff before, and I wouldn`t be surprised if he did it again.

[avidreader]

I dont have a link to those IESB Boards, and I wasnt around in 2004, so I guess I'll have to stay in the dark. :csad:

[AgentPat]

If it's muscles, then you have to know its BS lol(It's not Muscles.) ;)

[KalKai]

Is it Joey?

[Tomwelling4sups]

Hey, I dropped the hint on IESB. Nobody picked up on it. The fact that poster ignored it confirmed it for me. Want me to PM him? LOL

There! That's my final clue. This one is super easy. It was obvious from his very first post. The grammar alone should have tipped everybody off. Well, everybody who was here back in '04. (That was a bonus clue.) :p

I'm off to bed. Hopefully Sanchez will get to the bottom of this by tomorrow. Nighters folks!!!

...And NO! It's not Motown Marvel. I was joking about that. ;)

take the masking tape off your mouth and just SAY IT already :rolleyes: lol

[C. Lee]

While it had some good ideas (the building that nobody could see), overall I did NOT enjoy that movie. Love Alec Baldwin on SNL, but that movie just dragged (between gory moments) :-<

Maybe they could reboot Shadow, with TW in Baldwin's role. He has the hair and the smirk ;->

I loved it...best thing Baldwin has done (besides Mr. Schmelly). And Raimi has bought the rights to it (along with Doc Savage and the Avenger)...so it could get another movie soon.

[GreenKToo]

I dont have a link to those IESB Boards, and I wasnt around in 2004, so I guess I'll have to stay in the dark. :csad:
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&id=1297&catid=20&limit=20&limitstart=180

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Kane ?

[KalKai]

Of course not.

We're gonna have to play guessing game all night long apparently lol.

[Tomwelling4sups]

Thanks to Pat, yeah

[avidreader]

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&id=1297&catid=20&limit=20&limitstart=180

Thanks. I'd better bookmark it this time. :yay:

[sunflowercyn]

So welcome back to the rollercoaster peeps!:hyper:

[Serene]

Thanks. I'd better bookmark it this time. :yay:

I just signed up.
But I just like using my Tom as Supes icons wherever I can. :D

I think it's time to change it back on here again. Gotta keep the good mojo working. :up:

[Lighthouse]

(It's not Muscles.) ;)

Could it really be our old friend Spiderfreddie?

[ZIPBAGS]

I don't understand the post times on IESB. When was this info posted and when did Robert say he was going to check it? Was it recent?

Also, this IESB poster only has been a member for 2 weeks.

So what is the consenses of the members here...Is this IESB poster legit?

[TWistim]

Pat asked the guy if he still lived in Florida. Does that give anyone a clue?

[TheComicbookKid]

Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. Tom's going to put on the trunks finally and leave Smallville to Kara. Good thing the show wasn't called Superboy.

[mellyM]

Pat asked the guy if he still lived in Florida. Does that give anyone a clue?

No, why can't someone just say

[ZIPBAGS]

Can someone just tell me what the he ck you are all talking about regarding this poster?!??!?!?

[triplet]

I think JackMercy-itis has spread...

*sigh*

[ZIPBAGS]

New update by Rilk123 at IESB...

What the NY times has printed is Information control set out by WB because of the higher ups under a rush to get this movie into production and completed before a strike would happen. And they are just trying to cover them selves of a unforeseen collapse. Great pic of Tom but imagine a Darker suit, And Tom is a bigger man than Routh. If you have never seen them in person it is very noticeable. From what I understand by what I have been told is they feel very confident on whats on the table with Tom Welling . And its this negotiation that has been holding up the casting decision so after the things or finalized by friday we should have a Cast of the top 3..It was not until the problem they ran into with Gough that they started throwing bigger names out there so You will get confirmations faster now from what I have been told..When Tom is official. most think Al had a problem because, he was assured the script he and Mill had regarding his version of a Superman movie was eventually going to get made or at least seriously considered and Tom was apart of that for those who believed Tom was never planning to where the Tights...

I hope this is true. It would be sweet.

[triplet]

I don't know if I believe the guy, but you should always post the URL of any site you quote from...

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&id=1132&catid=20&limit=20&limitstart=200#1302

It's polite so people don't have to search if they want to see it for themselves.

[TWistim]

Infamous-emijayne is saying that she was told an announcement will be made within the next 9/10 days. This is torture!!!!

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3994447&folder=0

[The Joker_1000]

Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. Tom's going to put on the trunks finally and leave Smallville to Kara. Good thing the show wasn't called Superboy.


Are you serious? Tom isn't leaving the show. Where'd you get that nonsense?

[triplet]

Are you serious? Tom isn't leaving the show. Where'd you get that nonsense?

That's coming from IESB.net boards or countingdown boards, I forget which one...

It's silly.

It won't be smallville if Clark isn't the lead. They'd have to call it something different.

[Serene]

That poster could be someone that used to post here a long time ago. There's really nothing more to it. I honestly don't know if he's a reliable source or not though. So basically, we're back to tapping our fingers and killing chickens.

[The Joker_1000]

Tom won't leave the show, he's no sell out.

[MJZ]

Pat asked the guy if he still lived in Florida. Does that give anyone a clue?

Probably Rob Merritt.

He never had a legit scoop from what I remember.

EDIT: It kills me to see some of you guys putting so much stock in anonymous message board posts--just setting yourselves up for disappointment. I want to see TW as Supes as much as the lot of you, but at this point it all looks like a fairy tale...

[Serene]

EDIT: It kills me to see some of you guys putting so much stock in anonymous message board posts--just setting yourselves up for disappointment. I want to see TW as Supes as much as the lot of you, but at this point it all looks like a fairy tale...

We're just along for the ride, MJZ. Sure, we want to hope, and there's nothing wrong with having hope. But I don't think ANYONE is taking anything for granted until it's a done deal and verified up the wazoo.

It hasn't been forgotten that we've been burned before, and badly. Some might say the smoke still lingers....

[TWistim]

We're just along for the ride, MJZ. Sure, we want to hope, and there's nothing wrong with having hope. But I don't think ANYONE is taking anything for granted until it's a done deal and verified up the wazoo.

Word! :up:

[Showtime]

These posters on these other boards are laughable, they wait for info from other websites before they report their so called scoops, they use vague terms and time periods in regards to information being released. It's hilarious.

[Kalleo]

These posters on these other boards are laughable, they wait for info from other websites before they report their so called scoops, they use vague terms and time periods in regards to information being released. It's hilarious.


Show you made me laugh with making them sound like this was coming from a fortune teller lol...

[user123456789]

I gotta admit the scene where he vaporizes the river + nods to the little child..

I thought to myself

"holy ****, that's Superman right there"

thats only once so far in the past 6+ years that TW has done that for me

let's hope he does it again

[The Joker_1000]

He's made a lot of nods to Superman.

[Showtime]

Show you made me laugh with making them sound like this was coming from a fortune teller lol...

There are way to many of these so called sources, playing with the minds of the fans. If the posters actually did research on some of these sources past posts, and compared them to when news was released, they would see the plotholes so to speak. Who has time to do that though.:dry:

[patrickbateman]

That's coming from IESB.net boards or countingdown boards, I forget which one...

It's silly.

It won't be smallville if Clark isn't the lead. They'd have to call it something different.

continue with supergirl?:woot:

[RakuMon]

Hey, I dropped the hint on IESB. Nobody picked up on it. The fact that poster ignored it confirmed it for me. Want me to PM him? LOL

There! That's my final clue. This one is super easy. It was obvious from his very first post. The grammar alone should have tipped everybody off. Well, everybody who was here back in '04. (That was a bonus clue.) :p

I'm off to bed. Hopefully Sanchez will get to the bottom of this by tomorrow. Nighters folks!!!

...And NO! It's not Motown Marvel. I was joking about that. ;)

joey?

[KalKai]

joey?

Yes, she believes so at least.

[GreenKToo]

That poster could be someone that used to post here a long time ago. There's really nothing more to it. I honestly don't know if he's a reliable source or not though. So basically, we're back to tapping our fingers and killing chickens.

I have found that this is the best way.


http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7087/indexstockc422480he8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[shapeshifter]

Tom won't leave the show, he's no sell out.
the hell he isint. he is such a little ponce. its his stubborn refusal to put on the costume that caused me to hate this show so much.
that and
the casting (except Allison Mack, she's great. she should have been Lana, not that fire station **** they have)
the plots
the writing
the costumes (except green arrow)
goddamn show, it had potential.

[avidreader]

I just signed up.
But I just like using my Tom as Supes icons wherever I can. :D

I think it's time to change it back on here again. Gotta keep the good mojo working. :up:


Have you got another one in your little stash, that I could use?

:woot:

[Serene]

Anyone else understand why someone makes the effort to come into the SV forum just to let us all know how much they *hate* the show?

Calling Tom Welling names (ponce? :rolleyes) based on things you *think* you know all about is pathetic, btw.

Back on-topic....

I'm glad there are so many SV/TW enthusiasts out there, but looking at the posts at IESB, I just wish that the ones who are blatantly MAKING THINGS UP to support the cause would just STOP.

You can support the guy without creating fantasy 'scoops'.

[avidreader]

Anyone else understand why someone makes the effort to come into the SV forum just to let us all know how much they *hate* the show?

Calling Tom Welling names (ponce? :rolleyes) based on things you *think* you know all about is pathetic, btw.

Nods head, in agreement.

Back on-topic....

I'm glad there are so many SV/TW enthusiasts out there, but looking at the posts at IESB, I just wish that the ones who are blatantly MAKING THINGS UP to support the cause would just STOP.

You can support the guy without creating fantasy 'scoops'.

That's why I havent been keeping up with the Boards over there, I dont have the patience to sit through all the nonsense.

[elgaz]

he is such a little ponce.

LMAO as if you would say that to his face if you ever got the opportunity.

It's his career, totally his decision as to what he wants to do with it. I'm sure he's not sitting somewhere thinking you're a 'ponce' for not being a charity worker, or a doctor, or whatever it is you don't do. Seriously - grow up.

Gaz

[Zing79]

...he is such a little ponce.
Just to clarify that "little effeminate" man you speak of is 6'4", WELL over 200 pounds, and used to be a construction worker.

It always confuses me when people like to call him sissified. The man's bigger then most of the ABOVE average people walking this earth. He stood next to a WWE wrestler who weighs 326 pounds (Kane) and didn't look like a "little effeminate" man.

But who knows...maybe shapshifter is 7'1" 400 pounds, so his perspective may be warped.

[Zing79]

It's killing me watching all these wanna be insiders over at IESB. All of them seem to be zealots from this forum getting new names, and going over there to spread hope that isn't there.

BTW -- "Killing me" is really code for "pissing me the f off".

[The Incredible Hulk]

But who knows...maybe shapshifter is 7'1" 400 pounds, so his perspective may be warped.

I'm betting on 5'1" 400 lbs myself...

[Zing79]

I'm betting on 5'1" 400 lbs myself...

http://www.cats-central.com/cat-pictures/fat-cat-round.jpg

[TWistim]

Have you got another one in your little stash, that I could use?

:woot:

Speaking of Tom as Supes icons, how many posts do you have to have to be able to have one? (I've looked everywhere for this info and I'm not finding it.)

[Mike22]

LMAO as if you would say that to his face if you ever got the opportunity.

It's his career, totally his decision as to what he wants to do with it. I'm sure he's not sitting somewhere thinking you're a 'ponce' for not being a charity worker, or a doctor, or whatever it is you don't do. Seriously - grow up.

Gaz


Just to clarify that "little effeminate" man you speak of is 6'4", WELL over 200 pounds, and used to be a construction worker.

It always confuses me when people like to call him sissified. The man's bigger then most of the ABOVE average people walking this earth. He stood next to a WWE wrestler who weighs 326 pounds (Kane) and didn't look like a "little effeminate" man.

But who knows...maybe shapshifter is 7'1" 400 pounds, so his perspective may be warped.


I'm betting on 5'1" 400 lbs myself...

LMAO. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gifhttp://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[TheComicbookKid]

I hate when others like messing with people's hopes on Routh or Welling. It's just a dickish thing to do and doesn't help in anyway.

[triplet]

Speaking of Tom as Supes icons, how many posts do you have to have to be able to have one? (I've looked everywhere for this info and I'm not finding it.)

300 posts...

You need to post nice wallpapers more often.

:D

[TWistim]

300 posts...

You need to post nice wallpapers more often.

:D

Almost half way there!!! Thanks for the info and tip. :cwink:

[Syncos]

the hell he isint. he is such a little ponce. its his stubborn refusal to put on the costume that caused me to hate this show so much.
that and
the casting (except Allison Mack, she's great. she should have been Lana, not that fire station **** they have)
the plots
the writing
the costumes (except green arrow)
goddamn show, it had potential.

So what have we learned from this post?

- Well, firstly, Shapeshifter 'hates smallville soo much." Yet has obviously watched every season, considering Green Arrow was just last season.

- Shapeshifter hates the costumes, but loves GA's, so my assumption is he hates real clothes, but loves spandex. *shrug* whatever floats yer boat.

- Shapeshifter seems to believe Tom Welling himself came up with the "No flights no tights" thing.

- Shapeshifter is obviously delusional.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

One thing is for sure is that with the writers strike possibly happening at the end of October I am sure we will be hearing crap loads of rumors from many many many various sites :whatever:

[The Incredible Hulk]

last I heard the script was complete and in it's 3rd draft, so I'm not sure what NYT means when they say the script isn't "complete?" The script was turned in back in June, they might mean the screenplay.

Even if the writers do go out early, I'd assume at this point in the game, Miller and Osborne could just step in and finish it where need be.

[Lighthouse]

last I heard the script was complete and in it's 3rd draft, so I'm not sure what NYT means when they say the script isn't "complete?" The script was turned in back in June, they might mean the screenplay.

Even if the writers do go out early, I'd assume at this point in the game, Miller and Osborne could just step in and finish it where need be.

So they'd basically be pulling a Donner/Mankiewicz writing on Justice League. Writing a lot of the story, but not getting any credit for it.

[TheLongestDay]

last I heard the script was complete and in it's 3rd draft, so I'm not sure what NYT means when they say the script isn't "complete?" The script was turned in back in June, they might mean the screenplay.

Even if the writers do go out early, I'd assume at this point in the game, Miller and Osborne could just step in and finish it where need be.

I love that avatar! screams "superman" to me

[Tomwelling4sups]

the hell he isint. he is such a little ponce. its his stubborn refusal to put on the costume that caused me to hate this show so much.
that and
the casting (except Allison Mack, she's great. she should have been Lana, not that fire station **** they have)
the plots
the writing
the costumes (except green arrow)
goddamn show, it had potential.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[RakuMon]

Wow, the level of activity in this thread has really fallen off lately. That's either a really good sign or a really bad one. :O

[AgentPat]

Wow, the level of activity in this thread has really fallen off lately. That's either a really good sign or a really bad one. :OHave you been to IESB? It was NUTS over there last night. I just didn't drag the posts here. Suffice it to say though, the rumors are flying higher than Superman right now. I just hope they're right... :wow:

[Serene]

Have you been to IESB? It was NUTS over there last night. I just didn't drag the posts here. Suffice it to say though, the rumors are flying higher than Superman right now. I just hope they're right... :wow:

I've been trying to keep up - but I keep hoping for something *concrete* to be posted.

I did like this post by someone named Dav620 (who I hope doesn't mind that I"m reposting his comment here).

You know what I find odd is this repeated statement that implies Warner Brothers quickly throwing this together, and yet as I recall Superman Returns was running pretty much along the same time line. They started "July-Aug.2004" with Bryan Singer, then casting began, and production went in after the holidays 2004 with filming beginning in spring 2005. The film was set for release 14 months after they started filming, summer 2006. Considering that they are going basically along the same time frame I don't understanding those voicing opposition based on the fact that they keep writing it's being rushed as point of contention when that's not really a valid argument. This film is going to be set for release Summer 2009. Two years seems like more then enough time to do this film, and release it. Take care.


I liked that entry because I keep hearing the same criticism from people ("this movie will be CRAP because they are rushing it!") and I honestly didn't think it seemed like it was being rushed since they've supposedly had at least a preliminary script for quite a while.

[zerohour films]

Wow, the level of activity in this thread has really fallen off lately. That's either a really good sign or a really bad one. :O

I know I for one (and I imagine a ton of others) am just so sick of all the back and forth.
I keep telling myself stay away from the internet...stay away from the internet...news will be announced soon..stay away from the internet....

But what can I say I am a glutton for punishment.

[AgentPat]

I liked that post too, 'Rene. :up: It was nice to have a little reality confirmation for the whiners who think the film is being slapped together with duct tape and a prayer. :rolleyes:

[DvilDog]

If i have some how missed this in the past bunches of pages I do apologize. THis is a week old after all. BTW i do hope this link i am posting is a bunch of garbage. like i said if its already been posted please disregard.

http://www.mania.com/56081.html

[The Incredible Hulk]

yeah IESB and a few others have now gone back to say that although things did fall through somewhat, there are still discussions going on

[AgentPat]

If i have some how missed this in the past bunches of pages I do apologize. THis is a week old after all. BTW i do hope this link i am posting is a bunch of garbage. like i said if its already been posted please disregard.

http://www.mania.com/56081.htmlYeah, that's old DvilDog. Sanchez said a few days later that it was in Welling's camp again. The "he's in," "he's out," "he's in," "he's out," volleys continue. Kinda funny if you look at it from outside the box. Unfortunately, I haven't been "outside the box" since 2003 sometime. LOL ;)

[AgentPat]

Oh man, I read this quick and almost had a freakin' heart attack! They just announced the full cast for Justice League.... but it's the ANIMATED DTV flick, which is completely unrelated to the live action film being directed by George Miller. Hah! Okay, I'll be peeling myself off the floor now. Interesting cast though. Voices of...

Kyle MacLachlan as Superman
Jeremy Sisto as Batman
Lucy Lawless as Wonder Woman
Neil Patrick Harris as The Flash/Barry Allen
David Boreanaz as Green Lantern/Hal Jordan
Miguel Ferrer as The Martian Manhunter/John Jones
Kyra Sedgwick as Lois Lane
Brooke Shields as Carol Ferris
John Heard as Ace Morgan
Phil Morris as Faraday

The film is expected to have a PG-13 rating and is scheduled for release from Warner Bros. Animation on January 28, 2008.
http://www.superheroflix.com/news/30/23130.php


Also, MTV must have gotten a TON of hits from their first article on casting Justice League because they're fishing for more activity. Might as well give it to 'em, right? Here's the link:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/10/01/casting-call-justice-league-by-shawn-adler/

[Prison Mike]

Isn't that information old? It's the New Frontier flick.

[AgentPat]

Isn't that information old?Yes and no. According to that article, which is dated today, the FULL cast has just been announced. I'd heard about the film many months ago, but didn't know who all the voices would be (not that I care much 'cause honestly, I don't have much of an interest in it.) But, because I've been scouring the Net for news about the Miller live action film and saw "full cast list announcement for JL," I freaked. LOL

Seriously folks, not to quote a familiar line here, but "the day is coming" [when Warners will announce the full cast for Miller's JL], and everybody better grab onto the side of their desks and hold on tight, 'cause it's gonna be a DOOZIE!!!!! If we knew exactly when the time and day would be, I think we could all prepare better, but we don't. So have a bottle of Tums and a shot of whiskey at the ready. LOL

[Serene]

So have a bottle of Tums and a shot of whiskey at the ready. LOL
Shot? Pffft. I'm keeping the whole bottle by the computer.

[TheLongestDay]

im a huge smallville fan but i havent seen any of season 6 yet ( i wait for them to be released on dvd,and we get the box sets a little after the usa) and i was just wondering if its been confirmed that season 7 is the last one?

[Prison Mike]

No, I think there will be a season 8. At least Gough and Millar want a season 8, but it won't be confirmed until May I guess. I really want Tom to be Superman in the JL flick. It would be awesome and I really think Smallville will benefit from it next year if people know that Tom is Superman.

[TheLongestDay]

i think if he is going to play Supes,itd be great to tie it in to the end of season 7,it might be a bit strange to see him play Superman then go back to playing Clark for more seasons of smallville (as much as i want it to carry on)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Surprised? Hollywood will be, too, and, according to my source, the Writers Guild of America is counting on it.

Here's the deal: TV and movie scribes are already up in arms over issues such as compensation for new media (translation: Internet downloads) and they're primed to strike. But the suits have been content to reassure themselves that it won't happen any sooner than spring, when the Screen Actors Guild contract is up as well and both groups can walk picket lines together.

Instead of waiting, however, WGA members received an e-mail just moments ago announcing a strike authorization vote — the results of which could be revealed in the next 10 days. If they vote to strike, the group could pack up their laptops when its contract expires on Nov. 1.

This would majorly tighten the noose around the necks of the guys holding the purse strings, because movie studios won't have had time to fast-track blockbusters to see them through a strike, and most fall TV shows will only have 10 or 11 episodes in the can at that point.

So what do you think? Will it happen? Should the networks and studios just pony up already? Or will this finally be what brings to the googleplex "Paradise Hotel: The Movie?" — Additional reporting by Ben Katner

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Exclusive-Writers-Strike/800023443

[triplet]

No, I think there will be a season 8. At least Gough and Millar want a season 8, but it won't be confirmed until May I guess. I really want Tom to be Superman in the JL flick. It would be awesome and I really think Smallville will benefit from it next year if people know that Tom is Superman.

I hope they end it this year, but if they don't I hope we don't get shortchanged with Clark, like some rumors flying around that Tom will not be the main character in a season 8.

Pshah on that!

:down

If he isn't in every episode, I'll hate it but I will watch the ones he is in.

i think if he is going to play Supes,itd be great to tie it in to the end of season 7,it might be a bit strange to see him play Superman then go back to playing Clark for more seasons of smallville (as much as i want it to carry on)

If there is a season 8, it'll end before Justice League is released the summer of 09...

There won't be any confusion.

Surprised? Hollywood will be, too, and, according to my source, the Writers Guild of America is counting on it.

Here's the deal: TV and movie scribes are already up in arms over issues such as compensation for new media (translation: Internet downloads) and they're primed to strike. But the suits have been content to reassure themselves that it won't happen any sooner than spring, when the Screen Actors Guild contract is up as well and both groups can walk picket lines together.

Instead of waiting, however, WGA members received an e-mail just moments ago announcing a strike authorization vote — the results of which could be revealed in the next 10 days. If they vote to strike, the group could pack up their laptops when its contract expires on Nov. 1.

This would majorly tighten the noose around the necks of the guys holding the purse strings, because movie studios won't have had time to fast-track blockbusters to see them through a strike, and most fall TV shows will only have 10 or 11 episodes in the can at that point.

So what do you think? Will it happen? Should the networks and studios just pony up already? Or will this finally be what brings to the googleplex "Paradise Hotel: The Movie?" — Additional reporting by Ben Katner

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Exclusive-Writers-Strike/800023443

I have a feeling they're serious about it this time.

Last contract talks, the WGA caved when it came to new media profit sharing (internet downloads) and they don't get a penny of that money.

I don't think they'll let it go this time.

[AgentPat]

i think if he is going to play Supes,itd be great to tie it in to the end of season 7,it might be a bit strange to see him play Superman then go back to playing Clark for more seasons of smallville (as much as i want it to carry on)That will NEVER happen. Even if Welling is cast in JL and the show goes eight seasons, the film won't premiere until *after* the show is completely DONE. SV would end in May '09, which is about as early as anybody would expect JL to unspool. IF this were the scenario, they'd time it so there wouldn't be any overlap. That would be the smartest thing to do.

All that said, IF Welling is cast in JL, I think Clark Kent will BE Superman at the end of S7. If the show was renewed, they'd focus on Kara/Supergirl next year and have Welling come back *as* Superman for a few guest episodes, probably during sweeps weeks. That's just my opinion though. I think the more likely scenario is that they'd fully end SV this season (S7) and then just spin-off Kara, assuming her eps get high ratings and CW is interested in the show enough to give it a half or full season order. LOTS of ifs here.

Oh yeah, one other option - Welling *isn't* cast in JL. Then I think there's a VERY VERY good chance we'll be getting another season after S7, but that would be the last. THEN they'll try to spin-off Supergirl. ;)

Regardless, G&M will need to know from CW no later than November if the intention is to renew the show for an eighth and final season.

There's going to be a LOT of things happening over the next two months - and it might be a hella lot shorter than that. We're all sitting on pins and needles here.

[TheLongestDay]

youre right there,as ive said before,i do like the idea of Kara taking over the show with clark/Superman guest appearing (although it would kinda suck if he wasnt always in it) but the shows called Smallville not Clark or Superman so as long as theres a healthy offering of interesting characters why not carry it on when/if welling leaves

[TheLongestDay]

these are from comics2film.com

http://www.comics2film.com/DCG/art/Art17176.jpg

http://www.comics2film.com/DCG/art/Art17564.jpg
http://www.comics2film.com/DCG/art/Art22371.jpg

[OobeDoobBenubi]

What is :huh:

[TheLongestDay]

What is :huh:

hit refresh,sometimes pics dont show up right away

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Nothing is showing up

[TheLongestDay]

Nothing is showing up

hmmm should do....works for me:huh::huh::huh:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Thats hype for ya

[TheLongestDay]

lol...the phantom zone of message boards...

[Tomwelling4sups]

JL poster I made :)

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4655/jl5eq2.png

[triplet]

hmmm should do....works for me:huh::huh::huh:

Some sites don't allow hotlinking, you can see them because you got copies stored on your computer somewhere...

You have to host the images yourself, hotlinking is against the rules although everyone does it. *cough*

:ninja:

[Lighthouse]

JL poster I made :)

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4655/jl5eq2.png

This inspires a lot of hope......hope that he doesn't ****ing kill me.

[LexCorp]

What is that supposed to be? The robots behind Clark?

[DvilDog]

What is that supposed to be? The robots behind Clark?


I would assume thats the OMAC's?

[LexCorp]

I would assume thats the OMAC's?

Observational Meta-human Activity Construct

I see.

[DvilDog]

who writes this garbage?

http://www.canmag.com/nw/9137-justice-league-delayed

[AgentPat]

who writes this garbage?
http://www.canmag.com/nw/9137-justice-league-delayedAnswer: a very biased individual. :o

Excerpts:

"To make matters worse, there aren't high-profile actors lining up to take on some of the heroic gigs. Jessica Biel was considered (very shortly), but she bounced on the project. Though I can't remember her ever making an official statement on why she felt JLA wasn't for her, but one can assume that she saw the upcoming train wreck that the production will likely become."

"The casting for Justice League is expected to remain especially difficult considering we already have a Batman, Christian Bale, and a Superman, Brandon Routh; both of whom will not be joining the film's production. Seriously, who wants to be the secondary Batman or Superman?"

"While the delay of JLA will likely be one of many disappointments during the strike, one has to appreciate the fact that this will at least give Warner Bros. some time to settle down on the production and try to deliver a production not rushed, but something well thought out and executed.

Fingers crossed."
Give me an f'n break! Could that have come off any more biased? :whatever:

[DvilDog]

only if he vomited on it before he posted it.

[The Incredible Hulk]

It's just one fool regurgitating the rumors of other fools.

JLA is "rushed" - check
script isnt finished - check
Biel baled b/c its going to be a trainwreck - check

it's like the clueless person's trifecta

[RakuMon]

Seriously, who wants to be the secondary ... Superman?

For what it's worth, this is exactly what I thought back in October 2004 when a certain casting announcement was made. ;)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Justice League will either

A) Fall Apart

B) The WB pays anything Tom Wellings people want to get him in the role

C) The WB pays off Nolan, Bale & get him in the Batman role through any means & just cast Routh as Superman

D) The rest of the main cast that gets casted will get everything they want & then some

[ZIPBAGS]

So what is being said at IESB and Countdown? Anything new?

[AgentPat]

So what is being said at IESB and Countdown? Anything new?Oh boy. It's crazy out there, Zip. It's hard to know who to believe. There are a lot of shills crawling around, not to mention people who are obviously in the know, but highly opinionated. I read a post over on the MTV boards this afternoon that was just.... wow. Crazy stuff. Post was from "Peon."

Anyhoo... I don't think it'll be long. For better or for worse, we're gonna find out who the new face of Superman on film will be. And it's gonna be SOON!

<- clutches bottomless bottle of whiskey