Tom Welling as Superman

[Superpowers]

Owned!

[AgentPat]

This is just too bizarre. Jayne updated her last post with the following:

www.JusticeLeagueOnFilm.com says Al Gough personally denies it as "utter bull $@#%" and that he has never even been approached by WB. The latter has been contradicted by many websites over the past 2 months.

So what is really going on?? Are we (by this I mean myself, IESB, and other sites) being lead on like puppets?? Even IESB said it was confirmed this week Welling was still in talks. Is Al Gough just pissed that things keep leaking out?? We'll just have to wait and see.....My personal opinion, he's doing what Singer did when Valkyrie and Castro Street leaked. Deny..Deny...Deny....Y'know, if any of these people (Jayne or Sanchez) were fly-by-night posters with absolutely no history to their names, I'd say this WAS indeed all just BS. But Sanchez has been around the block for quite a while. He's not making this stuff up. And I don't think Jayne is either. So WTF? Why would this be some elaborate ploy? And not fer nuthin', but why the hell is Gough only talking to JLOF? And why the hell is anybody talking to Gough at all? What's Warners got to say about this? And finally, if it DOES turn out to be true (Welling cast in JL), what the hell is Gough going to say then? He's sounds pretty adamant. Or at least JLOF make it sound that way. :rolleyes:

[Serene]

Why are people such *******s? It's really sad.

[Showtime]

This is just too bizarre. Jayne updated her last post with the following:

Y'know, if any of these people (Jayne or Sanchez) were fly-by-night posters with absolutely no history to their names, I'd say this WAS indeed all just BS. But Sanchez has been around the block for quite a while. He's not making this stuff up. And I don't think Jayne is either. So WTF? Why would this be some elaborate ploy? And not fer nuthin', but why the hell is Gough only talking to JLOF? And why the hell is anybody talking to Gough at all? What's Warners got to say about this? And finally, if it DOES turn out to be true (Welling cast in JL), what the hell is Gough going to say then? He's sounds pretty adamant. Or at least JLOF make it sound that way. :rolleyes:

There are really three possible scenarios here.

*Jayne and Rob have been getting info from sources in the same circle who have been leading them the wrong way.
*Jett has competely fabricated the interview.
*Gough is lying out of anger that it is happening or to cover it up.

[bootspark]

Deny. Deny. Deny. Spin. Spin. Spin.

Remember when Ratner was working on Superman, and there were rumors everywhere that WB was going to fire and replace him with Bay? Ratner even went to Variety to deny it. He also said Bay was never in talks and that he was in pre-production on the film. A few weeks later, Ratner was let go. WB did want Bay, but he passed.

My point is that until something is official, the parties involved will deny everything.

So....I dont believe Gough.

[AgentPat]

Somewhere down the line, this is all going to backfire in a big ugly way, and it's going to be Warner Bros. that looses in the end. Jayne is a nobody (no offense to her) and Sanchez reports on plenty of other things - the JL stuff would be forgotten in short order. But if Warners just did this in order to manufacture false buzz, I will personally do my DAMNEDEST to tell people NOT to see the film. And y'know what? I won't be the only one. This is a load of bull. They're going to get burned in the end if it's true. I hope they're prepared for it.




I agree, Show. It's one of the above. BTW - that's not Jett. It's the other guys - the nobodies, which makes me wonder.

[Pickle-El]

There are really three possible scenarios here.

*Jayne and Rob have been getting info from sources in the same circle who have been leading them the wrong way.
*Jett has competely fabricated the interview.
*Gough is lying out of anger that it is happening or to cover it up.

4. Gough is telling the truth, and is not getting people's hopes up by being brutally honest about it. This is the 2nd time he's said this. (assuming the interview is real....but why would Jett fake an interview? His problem is with the Batman side of JLA...not Supes)

[bootspark]

If it turns out not to be true, and if I was Welling, I would be hurt and angry over everything. Could he sue WB for using his name like this if true?
Whats the term for using your name falsely in print? Liable?

And....if it turns out everything was a lie, is Sanchez career over?

[Lighthouse]

EDIT: I mistakingly thought it was a site run by Jett, but its starting to seem like its not.

[Showtime]

Somewhere down the line, this is all going to backfire in a big ugly way, and it's going to be Warner Bros. that looses in the end. Jayne is a nobody (no offense to her) and Sanchez reports on plenty of other things - the JL stuff would be forgotten in short order. But if Warners just did this in order to manufacture false buzz, I will personally do my DAMNEDEST to tell people NOT to see the film. And y'know what? I won't be the only one. This is a load of bull. They're going to get burned in the end if it's true. I hope they're prepared for it.




I agree, Show. It's one of the above. BTW - that's not Jett. It's the other guys - the nobodies, which makes me wonder.

Noted too all above and I agree...but wait that wasn't a link to Jett, it was from the other Justice Leage on Film? Hmm.

[Showtime]

4. Gough is telling the truth, and is not getting people's hopes up by being brutally honest about it. This is the 2nd time he's said this. (assuming the interview is real....but why would Jett fake an interview? His problem is with the Batman side of JLA...not Supes)

That is indeed a scenario as well, which I left out. I don't think it's Jett, it's that other bizzaro site.

[AgentPat]

I reiterate, that's not JETT's site. It's some flybynight nobodies that I've never heard of. It's not even SHP - and we know how much Younis likes to pick up the phone and bug Al Gough over this sort of stuff. Why is Gough even talking to these nobodies? Could it be is all BS?

Seriously folks, this is just nuts. Sanchez himself called Gough's reps and they told him to call the PR dept. Why not just deny it outright? And Jayne called Welling's reps and they told HER "no comment."

Something is AWFULLY fishy here, and it stinks.

[bootspark]

justiceleagueonfilm.com is some no-name site. And how would he know Gough's number? And why would Gough talk to him?

I dont trust that site at all.

[Showtime]

I reiterate, that's not JETT's site. It's some flybynight nobodies that I've never heard of. It's not even SHP - and we know how much Younis likes to pick up the phone and bug Al Gough over this sort of stuff. Why is Gough even talking to these nobodies? Could it be is all BS?

Seriously folks, this is just nuts. Sanchez himself called Gough's reps and they told him to call the PR dept. Why not just deny it outright? And Jayne called Welling's reps and they told HER "no comment."

Something is AWFULLY fishy here, and it stinks.

I contacted Steve.

[Pickle-El]

I don't believe anything anymore. It's regoddamndiculous. I'm not sure why Jett has a JL to Film site all by itself. Sure, he said he'd cover it because Batman is in it, but he is adamantly against the movie from happening, so I don't understand why he is making a seperate website for it. It would be strange to run a website for a movie you are adamantly against.

Probably the same type of reason people who disliked a movie long after it premiered can't stop talking about it....in the end, you're just a fan. And you're going to talk about it regardless.

Plus, he does have contacts within Warner....

[bootspark]

Pat, dont put your plate of crow away just yet.

Remember, its not over till the fat lady sings. :)

[Pickle-El]

Bleh....if that isn't Jett's site, I wouldn't put any stock in it. Sounds like an angry anti-Welling rant.

[triplet]

4. Gough is telling the truth, and is not getting people's hopes up by being brutally honest about it. This is the 2nd time he's said this. (assuming the interview is real....but why would Jett fake an interview? His problem is with the Batman side of JLA...not Supes)

It's not Jett, it's the other guys.

Pat said it, the nobodies....

If he'd wanted to dispute it publically, he'd talk to Craig over on KryptonSite.

KryptonSite is the biggest Smallville fan web page out there and they would have a lot larger readership to see it there rather than that site.

I'm not sure I buy this, the tone of the quote is the quote makes it sound made-up to me.

I've heard that Al has a bit of a temper, so maybe him blowing his top to a nobody site like this might be possible but I find it unlikely.

Temper or no, I don't buy someone like him losing their temper in an interview with a no-name webmaster.

[Showtime]

I was so confused, isn't Jett's section on JLA under the same name as this rogue site?

[AgentPat]

I contacted Steve.Good! This ought to be interesting.

Probably the same type of reason people who disliked a movie long after it premiered can't stop talking about it....in the end, you're just a fan. And you're going to talk about it regardless.

Plus, he does have contacts within Warner....The hell you talking about Pickle? Who has contacts within Warner? And complaining about a movie after it's opened aint nuthing new, especially when some people thought it sucked while others still want them to do a sequel.

Pat, dont put your plate of crow away just yet.

Remember, its not over till the fat lady sings. :)Oh trust me, I aint putting nuthin' away just yet, because nuthin' is "real" until the fat lady sings. I will have my 12 gauge ready if she's out of tune though. :p

[Showtime]

So where did this random Justice League site come from?

[AgentPat]

Folks, bookmark these sites because there appears to be great confusion here:

JETT's Batman site:
http://www.batman-on-film.com/

JETT's Justice League site:
http://www.justiceleague-on-film.com/

^ Note the similarities in page format.


Now, here are the NOBODIES with supposedly a direct connection to Al Gough:
http://www.justiceleagueonfilm.com/

[Showtime]

Imposters.

[Pickle-El]

The hell you talking about Pickle? Who has contacts within Warner?

I was talking about Jett, before someone said it wasn't his site. And I wasn't necessarily talking about a certain film. It's a very basic statement for any comic book film or summer flick....

And complaining about a movie after it's opened aint nuthing new, especially when some people thought it sucked while others still want them to do a sequel.



People who dislike a flick, will talk about it for a long, passionate time. It's been that way since I can remember. People don't just let things go. Which is why I stated that, I believe Jett made his own website because he is going into JLA already not liking it for personal reasons, but will cover it anyway..maybe even to spin things as he sees fit, who knows.

And about that last part you wrote, i don't quite follow what you are inferring with the sequel talk.

[Pickle-El]

Anyway, this is all moot IMO, maybe SHP can contact Gough again. Till then, that Gough rant holds about an ounce of weight.

[BenReilly19]

That Justice League (http://www.justiceleagueonfilm.com/) website that posted that statement by Gough, is a sister site to Voices from Krypton (http://www.voicesfromkrypton.com/). They're the site that had that audio interview with Miles Millar a while back, where he talked about what he and Al would have done, if they made a Superman film (President Lex storyline).

http://www.voicesfromkrypton.com/2007/08/miles-millar--1.html

[bootspark]

Ed Gross is the Editor of Justiceleagueonfilm.com. Its a blog hosted by typepad.com. It looks like he created it on September 12, 2007.

http://www.justiceleagueonfilm.com/2007/09/welcome-to-our-.html#more

Going through the entire site, NOBODY has posted any comments or talkbacks.

I really dont believe this site at all.

[TWistim]

That justicleagueonfilm site report sounds like sour grapes to me! Why would Gough talk to an obscure site when earlier Robert @ IESB was transferred to PR when he called Gough. Something just doesn't add up. That whole comment was too much over the top to sound legit to me, especially the remark about the horse's a$$. I call BS on this one.

[Showtime]

So does this make it legit?

[bootspark]

Update from Robert Sanchez

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&id=903&catid=20&limit=20&limitstart=420


"was out at dinner, i had a couple of emails from my last two guys, they heard nothing today, was that a real interview from Gough?

Again, all five sources say that they have not heard anything about today or about Gough/Millar."

[Showtime]

This is a soap opera.

[bootspark]

If this was a movie, what would be the title? :)

[Showtime]

A Forum Divided: The Casting Of Superman

[Zing79]

This is a soap opera.
Indeed it is -- and much like the dreaded soap, the ending to this story is so cliche it hurts my brain.
Your previous guns dear sir -- stick to them ;)

Oh Pat ... the ship MJZing has plenty of room and it's sailing along nicely. Care to come aboard this luxury liner? :)

[AgentPat]

There are a few things that just... aren't right... about that site, but I'm not going to detail them, mainly because this isn't the place for it. But I'm pretty sure he's a shill. He set up a fan site with the stated goal of covering Justice League information, but his real purpose is to shill out contrary reports when rumors get too close for comfort at Warners and news is close to being leaked before they're ready to officially announce it. Sanchez said the folks he spoke to on Gough's end sounded like they were stalling. Interesting how this nobody site gets a full out statement from Gough when Sanchez was told to send in an e-mail request and call the PR dept.

The JLOF site is a shill, probably for Gough or Warners or both. I'm convinced of that.

[Showtime]

Hmmm

[bootspark]

I wonder if the execs at WB are in the boardroom reading these boards and laughing.

Hey, WB, its not funny. :(

[triplet]

If this was a movie, what would be the title? :)

A Forum Divided: The Casting Of Superman

*snort*

[bootspark]

Pat, this is a dumb question, but what is a "shill"?

[Showtime]

This is getting way to much like 24

[triplet]

Pat, this is a dumb question, but what is a "shill"?

There is no such thing as a dumb question, boots, but google is your friend:

shill
–noun
1.a person who poses as a customer in order to decoy others into participating, as at a gambling house, auction, confidence game, etc.
2.a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.

–verb (used without object)
3.to work as a shill: He shills for a large casino.

–verb (used with object)
4.to advertise or promote (a product) as or in the manner of a huckster; hustle: He was hired to shill a new TV show.

[JP]

What an interesting night. O_o

[bootspark]

Wow, ok. That makes perfect sense.

Right now, I believe Sanchez and Jane. And I have my own reasons.

[triplet]

Wow, ok. That makes perfect sense.

Right now, I believe Sanchez and Jane. And I have my own reasons.

I'd be interested in hearing your reasoning, even if only in PM....

[Showtime]

Steve's comment was that this recent quote by Al backs up the quote he received last month.

[AgentPat]

Steve's comment was that this recent quote by Al backs up the quote he received last month.LOL! That doesn't tell us much, Show.

[Showtime]

No it doesnt.

[triplet]

You mean Younis?

Hmmm....

[bootspark]

Triplet,

Check PM. :)

[bootspark]

Anything new in the past hour? :)

[KBX]

good lord when will this end....

[RakuMon]

I reiterate, that's not JETT's site. It's some flybynight nobodies that I've never heard of. It's not even SHP - and we know how much Younis likes to pick up the phone and bug Al Gough over this sort of stuff. Why is Gough even talking to these nobodies? Could it be is all BS?

Seriously folks, this is just nuts. Sanchez himself called Gough's reps and they told him to call the PR dept. Why not just deny it outright? And Jayne called Welling's reps and they told HER "no comment."

Something is AWFULLY fishy here, and it stinks.

They're not exactly nobodies. They're part of the same network with Voices From Krypton (who had a podcast with Miles Millar a few weeks ago.)

Just sayin.

[Serene]

*peeks in*
*sighs*
*leaves*

[DvilDog]

*peeks in*
*sighs*
*leaves*


Caught up on three pages of reading. Got excited, got angry, now im just tired again.. Im going back to bed:(

[AgentPat]

Caught up on three pages of reading. Got excited, got angry, now im just tired again.. Im going back to bed :(LOL! Tell me about it.

Wake me when it's over kids. :ninja:

[DvilDog]

This spin stuff just doesnt make any sense to me. either announce so we can be happy or announce so we can be pissed and tell them how stupid they were ya da ya da. I mean its not like anyone from WB would read this. So it would just be everyone of us in here being pissed. and the few occasional trolls coming in to say how happy they are and what a good decision it was to cast someone else instead of Welling

[AgentPat]

This spin stuff just doesn't make any sense to me. either announce so we can be happy or announce so we can be pissed and tell them how stupid they were ya da ya da. I mean its not like anyone from WB would read this. So it would just be everyone of us in here being pissed. and the few occasional trolls coming in to say how happy they are and what a good decision it was to cast someone else instead of WellingThe frustrating thing is, I don't understand the purpose of the misinformation if true. Then again... people create I-Net viruses just for the helluvit too, so there might not be any purpose behind it at all.

That said, the Welling rumors are all over the freakin' place; they're not just from one source. So what gives? The rumors get bigger and bigger every day and ironically, there's enough evidence out there right now that if Welling isn't in the running, he SHOULD be! :p

I'm still not sold on this Ed Gross guy, but Gough's alleged response IS in character with how he acts. He DOES talk like that and he DOES fly off the handle when he gets pissed - and seeing as that a lot of rumored blame seems to be falling on Gough's head, it almost makes sense in my mind that he would have an angry response. And there is a possibility that Gough truly knows *nothing* about what (if anything) has been going on between TOM WELLING and the people he's contracted through: WARNER BROS.

But WTF? Why is Gough telling Ed Gross? Why not tell Sanchez. It's not like Sanchez wouldn't LOVE to dispel the rumors. But Sanchez has been making phone calls every other day and now he's getting the run-around, not to mention a feeling that they're "stalling." If I called somebody's reps in Hollywood, I wouldn't know what the standard response would be, never mind how to interpret the way in which it was spoken, but Sanchez has been doing this for years. I'm going to trust his instincts. Could the delay be that they haven't told Gough yet? Geeze, wouldn't that be funny?

Anyhoo, today is October 6th. If JL is going to happen - and I believe it is - we WILL know soon. It's frustrating having to sit on our hands while other rumormongers pull the strings and laugh at the pandemonium they've caused, but at least we know it shouldn't be long now. Plus there's that early strike thing that's happening at the end of this month, so Warners is staring down at the crapper with the knowledge that it's time to poop or get off the pot. LOL ;)

[TWistim]

Don't know if this means anything or not but a certain SUPER man was shopping in LA yesterday.

http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tomwellingrocering05100pz0.jpg

*credit to TOMophilus @K-site

[Prison Mike]

lol grocery shopping.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Don't know if this means anything or not but a certain SUPER man was shopping in LA yesterday

It means that he & his wifey was hungry :o

[\S/JcDc\S/]

So who does run the http://www.justiceleagueonfilm.com/ site?

Gough is apparently on record saying Welling in JL is BS at this point.

[TWistim]

It means that he & his wifey was hungry :o

:oldrazz:

[KBX]

Any body see the script details yet? its at iesb and printed by ew magazine... its not really new, is it?

[Whiteflag]

Don't know if this means anything or not but a certain SUPER man was shopping in LA yesterday.

http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tomwellingrocering05100pz0.jpg

*credit to TOMophilus @K-site

Thank you!!! :heart:

(I owe you pm. RL is to blame!)

[AgentPat]

Don't know if this means anything or not but a certain SUPER man was shopping in LA yesterday.

http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tomwellingrocering05100pz0.jpg

*credit to TOMophilus @K-siteHe was in LA?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/confused2.gif





YESTERDAY?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/twitch3.gif

















http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/banghead6.gif

[TWistim]

Thank you!!! :heart:

(I owe you pm. RL is to blame!)

Your welcome and I totally understand! :yay:

[TWistim]

He was in LA?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/confused2.gif

YESTERDAY?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/twitch3.gif


http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/banghead6.gif


Yeah, pretty interesting in light of all the reports about a deal being finalized and a possible full cast announcement coming soon. I just wish we would hear something concrete!!!

Too long on a roller coaster and I eventually throw up!!!

[Zing79]

He was in LA?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/confused2.gif





YESTERDAY?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/twitch3.gif

















http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/banghead6.gif


That might have something to do with the fact he (and the rest of the cast) have a long holiday weekend. It's thanksgiving in Canada so 100% everyone would get Monday off. He probably just decided to go with the wife to LA since it wouldn't be a one day trip.

Let's not read that much into it

[Syncos]

That might have something to do with the fact he (and the rest of the cast) have a long holiday weekend. It's thanksgiving in Canada so 100% everyone would get Monday off. He probably just decided to go with the wife to LA since it wouldn't be a one day trip.

Let's not read that much into it


I thought reading too much into everything was how things like this get started..... oh well.



.... Words can't describe how much I love your avatar. I've gotta get a Ryu one. =X Alpha was an amazing movie.

[Zing79]

I thought reading too much into everything was how things like this get started..... oh well.



.... Words can't describe how much I love your avatar. I've gotta get a Ryu one. =X Alpha was an amazing movie.
I've had that avatar ever since alpha. I had to go out and rip the scene myself, and back then it wasn't such an easy thing to do.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

It is not over until the fat lady sings. G & M could just as easily be lying to cover up some info just like nobodies can just as easily lie.

[TWistim]

That might have something to do with the fact he (and the rest of the cast) have a long holiday weekend. It's thanksgiving in Canada so 100% everyone would get Monday off. He probably just decided to go with the wife to LA since it wouldn't be a one day trip.

Let's not read that much into it

Ahhhh! Where's the fun in that? :cwink:

Anyway, I don't think Tom would waste a holiday weekend in LA. His trips to LA usually signal business. His free time is spent elsewhere, such as Martha's Vinyard with family and friends.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

His free time is spent elsewhere, such as Martha's Vinyard with family and friends.

Indeed something is going down

[DvilDog]

I would definitly like to think so

[Prison Mike]

I'd love to be in LA right now.

[DvilDog]

I would love to be a WB exect who knew what was going on right now

[Prison Mike]

me too

[Zing79]

wow...
just wow

i can't believe how these things get going -- but clearly they do

[KBX]

I don't see the big deal about Tom being in LA with his wife....

whats so special about it?

[ZIPBAGS]

I wish Justice League was an MGM movie. A close family friend is the senior lawyer for them. :(

[Pickle-El]

I'd love to be in LA right now.

We'd love to have you....try some King Taco while you're here. :up:

[Prison Mike]

We'd love to have you....try some King Taco while you're here. :up:

I promised myself that as soon as I graduate from college, I'm going to head out there permanantly. And I will try King Taco when I get there.

[triplet]

That might have something to do with the fact he (and the rest of the cast) have a long holiday weekend. It's thanksgiving in Canada so 100% everyone would get Monday off. He probably just decided to go with the wife to LA since it wouldn't be a one day trip.

Let's not read that much into it

Maybe it means something, mabye not..

Ahhhh! Where's the fun in that? :cwink:

Anyway, I don't think Tom would waste a holiday weekend in LA. His trips to LA usually signal business. His free time is spent elsewhere, such as Martha's Vinyard with family and friends.

He does still have a house in LA, from what I understand. He doesn't live there during Smallville's shoot schedule usually, so him taking a three or four day break down there might mean something...

Things to ponder anyway...

Indeed something is going down

wow...
just wow

i can't believe how these things get going -- but clearly they do

:D

They always do.

[Asteroid-Man]

I surprised nobody did a manip after he had the "C" curl at the end of "Kara"

[bootspark]

I dont have facts, I dont have sources, I dont work in LA. So...everything I have is by deduction and reasoning. Think of me as Bootsman, the Dark Web Dectective.

Ive been following Superman as a film since 1993. Ive read all the rumors, facts, denials, lies. Everything. One thing Ive learned is....There is TRUTH to every LIE. There is LIE to every TRUTH. And Hollywood is about SPIN. SPIN. SPIN.

There is no doubt that WB has wanted Welling for Superman for a long time. Welling even met with Ratner in 02. That was a year after the show began. I honestly believe that the plan has been for Welling to be Superman after the show ends. Why do you think they hired a 23 year old to play a 15 year old? Why did WB commision Alex Ross to draw Welling as Superman? Why does TW win every single poll?

This Justice League film has been in the works for a while. Things have been brewing at WB.

Season 6 brought in Green Arrow and the Justice League. The "Justice" episode was a critical and ratings smash. Hence the reason WB is making a JLA film.

Season 7. Why do you think they brought in Supergirl? Why does TW look more like Superman? Why are they bringing back Brainiac at the end of the season? This is all a very caculated plan.

IMO, Tom Welling will be Superman in JLA. It has been in the works since last year. All of Gough statements are just SPIN.

Like I said, Im just going on by what Im reading. I could be wrong also. But.....

Read between the lines. Deduct. Reason.

[Docker2.0]

LOL! This thread has grown so much in the last 2 days! We have less than 2 weeks people before it's announced! :up:

[The Incredible Hulk]

jesus, it's UNCANNY how quickly someone gets a "Welling debunk" story up these days.

And we're back to running to Al Gough again on this? I dont know if this website or this interview is legit or not, but if as the rumor says Al has some kind of verbal agreement with WB, do you think he's going to tell some no name internet site about it? Think about, if he says "yes" he basically steals WB's thunder on the casting of Superman. His NDA would still be in effect and he's still gonna be in denial mode.

again Tom may have nothing to do with this project but asking a guy about it who is going to say "No" either way is a fool's errand.

and how do all of these websites have the guy on speed dial? :confused:

[Zing79]

jesus, it's UNCANNY how quickly someone gets a "Welling debunk" story up these days.

And we're back to running to Al Gough again on this? I dont know if this website or this interview is legit or not, but if as the rumor says Al has some kind of verbal agreement with WB, do you think he's going to tell some no name internet site about it? Think about, if he says "yes" he basically steals WB's thunder on the casting of Superman. His NDA would still be in effect and he's still gonna be in denial mode.

again Tom may have nothing to do with this project but asking a guy about it who is going to say "No" either way is a fool's errand.

and how do all of these websites have the guy on speed dial? :confused:
Batphone??

[bootspark]

Update from Jane

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3995945&folder=0

"...studios have spies that watch the web and I know some of the new people that have jumped over from other sites recently are spies trying to find out who gave me info so they can plug the leak. It's obvious by the questions they ask in emails. I'm not stupid. I've also started to wonder if anything myself and others have been told was done on purpose to flush someone out or to just create confusion in the hopes people will stop talking this while they finish putting whatever deals together. Unfortunately, I don't believe in coincidences. Everything has a reason in my book."

[Pickle-El]

Someone on the MOS board says Jett posted this from EW. Not necessarily Welling news, but JLA news.

* “Though the studio will still not officially confirm it, Warner Bros.' League feature is scheduled to begin production in Australia next February under Happy Feet director George Miller. But some Hollywood power players aren't taking it too well, given that the movie could hinder future plans for DC Comics film franchises, including the ongoing Batman and Superman series, and long-gestating theatrical takes on Wonder Woman and the Flash. Sources say that Warner Bros. was prompted to move quickly on Justice League by three factors: a screenplay that '’they flipped out over;’ an open spot in their summer 2009 calendar; and the increasing probability of an industry-wide strike that would shut down all productions by next July.”

* “The plot revolves around villainous businessman Maxwell Lord and involves cyborgs called OMACs (One-Man Army Corps), who can take over humans and turn them into killing machines. There are epic battle scenes between Superman and Batman, as well as Superman and Wonder Woman, and League could spawn a slew of additional franchises if it's successful.”

* “Christian Bale is not expected to star as League's Batman, and many in Hollywood are wondering whether this continuity breach will distract audiences who turn out for The Dark Knight next July. Director Christopher Nolan is reportedly unhappy that the studio is making League. (Nolan is currently ''knee-deep'' in production and unavailable for comment, according to his reps.) Sources close to director Bryan Singer say he had to be reassured that Man of Steel wouldn't be affected.

* “[Warner Bros.] declined to comment for this story, but according to one source familiar with their plans for League, '’Warner doesn't believe they are cannibalizing [these other franchises] partly because it's unlikely Brandon and Christian will be in it. They believe the movies can live in parallel universes.’ Sources say that concerns about hurting individual franchises are what kept Warner Bros. president and COO Alan Horn from greenlighting a multi-superhero movie for years.”

[The Incredible Hulk]

yeah that was in last week's EW

[AgentPat]

yeah that was in last week's EWAnd the *really* irritating part? Raku took the time and effort to transcribe the article for folks here and over in the DC Comics forum, and they CLOSED the freakin' thread over there. WTF?????

[The Incredible Hulk]

who knows? I also dont get the Hype's insistence on not giving JLA it's own forum either? They posted the Variety article confirming the movie, what else do they need? They've got a bunch of people who want to talk about it too. Yet crap like "Wanted" get's its own forum and it has like 5 threads in 6+ weeks. Go figure

[AgentPat]

who knows? I also dont get the Hype's insistence on not giving JLA it's own forum either? They posted the Variety article confirming the movie, what else do they need? They've got a bunch of people who want to talk about it too. Yet crap like "Wanted" get's its own forum and it has like 5 threads in 6+ weeks. Go figureDon't get me started. LOL

So the lull after the storm is kind of interesting. I rattled the events around in my head all afternoon and I'm still coming to the same conclusions: the poop storm over Welling aint over yet.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Don't get me started. LOL

So the lull after the storm is kind of interesting. I rattled the events around in my head all afternoon and I'm still coming to the same conclusions: the poop storm over Welling aint over yet.


the only conclusion I can come to is that SHH doesnt want to deal with another Casting War scenario and will wait until the cast is named before opening up the forum. As things stand now they can at least keep the factions separated. Although if you look over at the Planet we all seem to be playing nicely, so who knows? Then again they've got some GREAT mod over there ;)

As for the Welling thing, oh absolutely. I didnt believe Gough's denial the first time and I stated my reasons, This doesnt change anything. It's always possible that what he's saying is true, but as I've pointed out before "No" is the only answer he can give, no matter what, so how much weight does it really hold?

As for this Justiceleagueonfilm guy. A lot of it sounds fishy. He's been posting the new Welling rumors on his blog for a while, but just now decides to phone Gough and ask about it? If Gough is that accessible to him, why didnt he just do that in the first place instead of continuing to posted the IESB, CD stuff for a week?

[AgentPat]

As for this Justiceleagueonfilm guy. A lot of it sounds fishy. He's been posting the new Welling rumors on his blog for a while, but just now decides to phone Gough and ask about it? If Gough is that accessible to him, why didnt he just do that in the first place instead of continuing to posted the IESB, CD stuff for a week?I think he did, once before. But Jayne made an interesting point about extenuating evidence: if you've got multiple sites saying he's in, and one site with an "exclusive" saying he's not, who ya gonna believe?

I guess it depends on your bias. The "no comment" quip from CAA has me scratching my head.

Anyhoo, here's Robert's last volley. I wanted to stay away from the rumors, but I just can't. I'm a fan, and I'm drawn to the hype like a bear to honey. *sigh*

No doubt that WB is pissed of all the leaked info, I got a call from a friend that works over at DC/New York and told me that they are pissed at me, oh well.

So far we know that all of my early stuff including that at one time WB looked at mo-cap (variety confirmed) for the film then went 100% live action, that it was scheduled for an early 2008 start, that it's scheduled for 2009 release, about what characters will be in it (Martian Manhunter was added later), was 100% right on regardless what some haters try to spin.

I have been guaranteed by multiple sources that Welling was always in the mix for for Supes, have they been feeding false info to find out were the leak is coming from? Maybe, like I said earlier this week, none of my sources could confirm CountingDown's story that Gough/Millar had agreed to anything.

Going back to those pics of Tom and his wife, they don't prove that he went to WB for anything.

Get me a pic that shows Tom going to the WB Burbank lot and maybe you have something but even then he could be meeting for many different things.

[The Incredible Hulk]

interesting. Sanchez does have a point, everything he's said so far about the JLA film has come to pass (not mo cap, Miller, Manhunter, start time, casting directors) except for the big one about Welling, but those still seem to be ongoing according to him.

What else besides that could WB really be pissed off at him about besides the Welling thing? Miller directing wasnt exactly a big secret although he was the first one to say it was definite, the rest of the stuff is all rather insignificant. It would have to be the Welling thing.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

It would have to be the Welling thing.

I dont blame the WB for being pissed at Robert if hey are pissed at him for letting out the whole Welling thing. Hes a guy that many has been wanting to play Supes for the last 7 years & now the WB is doing everything in their power to get the guy to play Supes in more then just a solo movie & Robert spoils it. I would also be pissed at Robert.

[AgentPat]

interesting. Sanchez does have a point, everything he's said so far about the JLA film has come to pass (not mo cap, Miller, Manhunter, start time, casting directors) except for the big one about Welling, but those still seem to be ongoing according to him.

What else besides that could WB really be pissed off at him about besides the Welling thing? Miller directing wasn't exactly a big secret although he was the first one to say it was definite, the rest of the stuff is all rather insignificant. It would have to be the Welling thing.Yup! And as expected - even after Gough's diarrhea of the mouth last night - Jayne is sticking by her story. There's a poster at CD that's been a complete jerk to her; they've been going back and forth like politicians the night before election. Here's her last response to him:

So Kavalier...if WB comes out with their highly anticipated cast list and Welling is on it, are YOU going to admit you were wrong?? I already said I would absolutely apologize if my sources were wrong. Although even after seeing the Gough comments on JusticeLeagueOnFilm they are still standing by their info. So this is pretty much all going to come down to WB's press release.Indeed. The crow is going to be served eventually. It remains to be seen who will be eating it.

And PS, Sanchez wants to put an end to the BS too. He's asking for Jayne's e-mail or phone number to be sent to him privately. I guess he wants to compare notes LOL.

[DvilDog]

Well you and wb can be mad at Robert I for one hang on the mans every word for the most part. And I am of the firm opinion that if wb didn't want welling and weren't going/trying to cast him we would have heard back in late August and we would have started hearing solid casting rumors for who was actually going to play supes. Of course that's just my opinion I could be wrong. I honestly don't think they have had anyone else in mind for supes other than welling the whole time. Granted like I said I could be way off base.

[Showtime]

Here's a scenario:

What if Welling was indeed first choice, the negotiations were going well and then for whatever reason they broke off. The info was leaked but now Welling was out of the running at this point. The fans postiive reactions to Welling forced WB to revisit the Welling deal and this is where we are at this point.

[The Incredible Hulk]

sounds plausible

[AgentPat]

Here's a scenario:

What if Welling was indeed first choice, the negotiations were going well and then for whatever reason they broke off. The info was leaked but now Welling was out of the running at this point. The fans positive reactions to Welling forced WB to revisit the Welling deal and this is where we are at this point.This was one of the scenarios I ruminated today, and yes, it sounds very plausible. But it doesn't explain Gough's ridiculously over-the-top replies - unless he's just pissed at the rumors making him out to be the bad guy in the contract negotiations. Who wouldn't be pissed? Even if it's true and Gough IS the hold-up, I don't think he'd see himself at "fault."

I dunno. Hopefully all of the nonsense will end soon.

[zerohour films]

Maybe he's just pissed because A) he knows everything but can't comment and is tired of being either asked or of what he has heard about being said online. B) he and miller have a plan for TW to exit smallville and step onto the big screen and he wants to keep it hush hush, but word is everywhere..kinda like the Lost guys getting pissed about their finale spoilers leaking.

(I know that one's a stretch but a guy's gotta hope).

You have to wonder though, I mean didn't TW look like he had bulked up a good bit this last episode. And he is definitely acting more like Superman as has been pointed out previously.

[DvilDog]

That scenario sounds very plausible. I would believe it in a heart. Question I am sure this has been asked before but has Tom voiced his interest lately or in the past about playing supes on the big screen. I truelt believe if he didn't play supes and the reason he didn't isn't a very good one like saving the earth or he's on the next shuttle to mars he might lose a lot of his fan base I know he would lose me. If wb tried to get him and he was like no. Though I'm sure there would be lots of people to see past it too

[Zing79]

I've also got a scenario: broken telephone got out of hand and now everything that comes out that doesn't = Welling as Superman immediately gets spun into it somehow.

It's more plausible that he's got nothing to do with JLA at this point, and we can't just let go. :)

Just this little 'ol posters opinion

[BenReilly19]

I've also got a scenario: broken telephone got out of hand and now everything that comes out that doesn't = Welling as Superman immediately gets spun into it somehow.

Some of the conspiracy theories I've read over this are beyond laughable. This whole Welling/JLA situation would make a great Oliver Stone film.

[Serene]

I dunno. Hopefully all of the nonsense will end soon.

I do too. If he's in - Halle-frickin'-luja! *snoopy dance*

If he's not, sadness will reign, but at least we can move on with the rest of S7, and maybe S8.

I'd likely still see the movie, but it'll move down a bit on the must-see list. And I might have to throw a few tomatoes at the screen - depending on whose mug I see up there instead of Tom's.

[04nbod]

I'd likely still see the movie, but it'll move down a bit on the must-see list. And I might have to throw a few tomatoes at the screen - depending on whose mug I see up there instead of Tom's.

that's horrible:csad:

[AgentPat]

I do too. If he's in - Halle-frickin'-luja! *snoopy dance*

If he's not, sadness will reign, but at least we can move on with the rest of S7, and maybe S8.Agreed. Nothing wrong about staying positive and keeping your hopes up about things you like. I'm biased, and proud of it. Hear me roar. ;)

I'd likely still see the movie, but it'll move down a bit on the must-see list. And I might have to throw a few tomatoes at the screen - depending on whose mug I see up there instead of Tom's.There's only one thing that will stop me in my tracks from seeing the film, and I honestly don't think it'll happen, so I'll be going no matter what. The difference in casting TW vs anybody else will be in how excited I am to see the film, how many people I'll drag with me, when we'll go, and how many times I'll see it after the first time.

I dragged two friends with me to see The Fog on opening night. (They wanted to shoot me afterwards, but that's besides the point LOL.) The theater sold three tickets that night that they wouldn't have sold otherwise if it wasn't for the fact the movie playing that evening stared Tom Welling. And that as they say, is that. :)

[Serene]

I dragged two friends with me to see The Fog on opening night. (They wanted to shoot me afterwards, but that's besides the point LOL.)

Heh. I dragged two friends also, and they happen to be co-workers as well. They both agreed that Tom was sex on a stick, but to this day they tease me about it.

[DvilDog]

Sex on a stick that is a very cool saying lol

[triplet]

Heh. I dragged two friends also, and they happen to be co-workers as well. They both agreed that Tom was sex on a stick, but to this day they tease me about it.

I saw it opening weekend and the kids didn't like the movie much, but Miss Triplet jr. did like Tom a lot.

She's smart, like her mom.

;)

Sex on a stick that is a very cool saying lol

LOL!

Yeah, and it's true isn't it?

[ZIPBAGS]

If Warner is upset about info getting out...They are idiots. Look at the buzz this is generating.

One thing that makes me doubt that Gough interview is Sanchez. He is at least someone who is mainly credible. Appears on tv and is a known quantity. While Emijay may absolutely be telling the truth. We just don't know more about her.

[ZIPBAGS]

Heh. I dragged two friends also, and they happen to be co-workers as well. They both agreed that Tom was sex on a stick, but to this day they tease me about it.


I'll take a stick of this...
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1280/690277036_ff4e4e24ea.jpg
:word:

[Prison Mike]

I'll take a helping of that too!

[Tomwelling4sups]

04nbod, who is that in your avy?! :eek: :eek:

[KBX]

Here's a scenario:

What if Welling was indeed first choice, the negotiations were going well and then for whatever reason they broke off. The info was leaked but now Welling was out of the running at this point. The fans postiive reactions to Welling forced WB to revisit the Welling deal and this is where we are at this point.

Maybe thats why Gough is pissed. WB wanted Welling but Gough convinced WB to not use him. The Welling for JLA movie got leaked by Sanchez, WB is revisiting the whole Welling for JLA and Gough is back to square one which explains his actions....

[triplet]

04nbod, who is that in your avy?! :eek: :eek:

That's Clark and Lois from Crimson, I believe...

[COMPO]

That's Clark and Lois from Crimson, I believe...

04nbod, who is that in your avy?! :eek: :eek:

it's The Doctor and Rose kissing in "New Earth". Or rather The Doctor and Cassandra kissing seeing as she took over Rose's body in that ep.

[triplet]

it's The Doctor and Rose kissing in "New Earth". Or rather The Doctor and Cassandra kissing seeing as she took over Rose's body in that ep.

Oh, okay....

Gotcha, I never watch that show.

[COMPO]

its a great show yu should watch it.

[TheLongestDay]

seems most people wanted a more open neckline so i had a go

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i51/thelongestday_photos/WELLINGNEWSUITcopy.jpg

[The Incredible Hulk]

nice job, the only thing I'd change is getting rid of those silly looking seems on the sleeves

[AgentPat]

I was going to say the same thing, but I didn't want to be picky. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/oopz.gif

[TheLongestDay]

gaaahhhh! another change! lol just kidding,i will try when i get time

[The Incredible Hulk]

the latest from emijayne:

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?folder=0&viewpost=3995786&start=60


Last night, Robert at IESB put out an A.P.B. on me to see if we could figure things out together. From our discussion, it is clear that we have multiple though different sources who are all saying Welling has always been WB's #1 choice and that he has been in negotiations with them as recently as Tuesday this past week. Gough gave an interview to JusticeLeagueOnFilm.com (no affiliation with Batman-On-Film or JusticeLeague-On-Film) and denies everything. He goes on to say that himself, Millar, and even Welling have never been approached by WB about the project. Well, that part is flat false. I know for absolute fact Welling was approached. Did he agree? I was told he did and Gough stepped in. Is it true? My sources all stand by their info, as do Robert's, even after reading Gough's statement. When will WB step up and say something? Hopefully the end of this week.

All I know is that with what I've been told, added to what Robert's been told, plus the siting of Welling in L.A., and how Gough is the ONLY one commenting now (WB and Welling's agent are now giving no comment and directing people to their respective PR depts with interview requests) it seems as though this may be coming to close. Again, 100% positive proof is not available yet. But it sure looks like the odds are now that Welling will be Superman.

[AgentPat]

I hesitate to even post this, but things got hot and heavy over at CD. I even got sucked into the debate there, and trust me, I didn't want to be. But there's a troll there that's been annoying me to no end and... well... y'all know how I am. LOL Anyhoo, here's Jayne's latest post. Have a Tums people, and buckle up folks:

Okay....I see things have gotten nasty in here again...

Here's the only news I have at this point.

Last night, Robert at IESB put out an A.P.B. on me to see if we could figure things out together. From our discussion, it is clear that we have multiple though different sources who are all saying Welling has always been WB's #1 choice and that he has been in negotiations with them as recently as Tuesday this past week. Gough gave an interview to JusticeLeagueOnFilm.com (no affiliation with Batman-On-Film or JusticeLeague-On-Film) and denies everything. He goes on to say that himself, Millar, and even Welling have never been approached by WB about the project. Well, that part is flat false. I know for absolute fact Welling was approached. Did he agree? I was told he did and Gough stepped in. Is it true? My sources all stand by their info, as do Robert's, even after reading Gough's statement. When will WB step up and say something? Hopefully the end of this week.

All I know is that with what I've been told, added to what Robert's been told, plus the siting of Welling in L.A., and how Gough is the ONLY one commenting now (WB and Welling's agent are now giving no comment and directing people to their respective PR depts with interview requests) it seems as though this may be coming to close. Again, 100% positive proof is not available yet. But it sure looks like the odds are now that Welling will be Superman.

[04nbod]

it's The Doctor and Rose kissing in "New Earth". Or rather The Doctor and Cassandra kissing seeing as she took over Rose's body in that ep.

its rose's body, rose's lips its doctor/rose:cmad:

*puts the shipper back in the box!*

Oh, okay....

Gotcha, I never watch that show.

well you should! :cwink::woot:

[AgentPat]

LMAO!!! Have you been watching the festivities over there too, Hulk? :p

[Prison Mike]

LOL you guys posted the same thing. Hope Welling is Superman!

[04nbod]

the problem I have is that the gough statement is so strong. Either its faked and the site is shamed or gough is lying through his teeth and he gets shamed. If this is true i doubt he would be SO strong about tom not being involved knowing he will end up looking like a liar

[AgentPat]

the problem I have is that the gough statement is so strong. Either its faked and the site is shamed or gough is lying through his teeth and he gets shamed. If this is true i doubt he would be SO strong about tom not being involved knowing he will end up looking like a liarI totally hear ya. I've been catching flies over that interview since it was posted. I'm torn between thinking it's totally fabricated, it's totally true, and it's totally NDA BS. I truly have no clue, but g'damn, I want to know. NOW!!! LOL ;)

[The Incredible Hulk]

LMAO!!! Have you been watching the festivities over there too, Hulk?

just checked in and saw that. It has gotten pretty nasty over there, that guy from BlueTights is being a real jerk to her... It seems she did have some kind of pow wow with Sanchez. I'm curious to see what his take is since he said Gough was full of it from the beginning.

the problem I have is that the gough statement is so strong. Either its faked and the site is shamed or gough is lying through his teeth and he gets shamed. If this is true i doubt he would be SO strong about tom not being involved knowing he will end up looking like a liar

he's got an out, if he's under an NDA. All he does is use that. Between that and the utter elation of Welling getting to play Supes, no one is gonna care that Gough quashed the idea beforehand.

[Docker2.0]

what is this that you guys are talking about?

[Mig-El]

I've been following the discussion since MSN mentioned Tom's name for Superman in Feb. '07. It has gotten quite heated. All I can say is that we'll all need a drink after all this is over, whether or not Tom gets it.

[Serene]

Sooo... another day of martinis and fried chicken then, yes?

*sigh*

[AgentPat]

just checked in and saw that. It has gotten pretty nasty over there, that guy from BlueTights is being a real jerk to her...Y'know, mods can do all sorts of nifty things that mere mortals like us peons can't - like check ISP's and stuff. Cool, huh? ;)

It seems she did have some kind of pow wow with Sanchez. I'm curious to see what his take is since he said Gough was full of it from the beginning.I'm *very* interested to hear what Sanchez will say about this now.

he's got an out, if he's under an NDA. All he does is use that. Between that and the utter elation of Welling getting to play Supes, no one is gonna care that Gough quashed the idea beforehand.True. And you're right - nobody is gonna give two hoots about what Gough said if Welling is announced. But it's not like Gough made a public statement on a "real" news site anyway.

what is this that you guys are talking about?You ever been to the CountingDown boards, Docker? Kind of a long story. Just go. Read. Catch up on sheet. ;)

I've been following the discussion since MSN mentioned Tom's name for Superman in Feb. '07. It has gotten quite heated. All I can say is that we'll all need a drink after all this is over, whether or not Tom gets it."Gotten heated?" It's BEEN heated. Like since... oh... I dunno, 2003 sometime? LOLOL!! Seriously, Welling as Superman is the debate that Will. Not. Die.

Ever. It is what it is. I'm just glad to hear that Warners is trying, even if it doesn't happen.

Sooo... another day of martinis and fried chicken then, yes?

*sigh*Tell me about it. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/sigh.gif

*braBAAAA!*

[another chicken bites the dust]

[The Incredible Hulk]

do they work in Hollywood on Columbus Day?

[Mig-El]

Wow, since 2003?! If that's the case, I'm glad I've only started to become aware of this casting debate this year. It's been a headache so far... I don't know how you guys have hanged on.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Y'know, mods can do all sorts of nifty things that mere mortals like us peons can't - like check ISP's and stuff. Cool, huh? ;)

LOL not who you think it is. This one seems to be from your neck of the woods.

[AgentPat]

Wow, since 2003?! If that's the case, I'm glad I've only started to become aware of this casting debate this year. It's been a headache so far... I don't know how you guys have hanged on.Well, I tell ya - it aint easy. Being a fan is a lot of work. LOL ;)

LOL not who you think it is. This one seems to be from your neck of the woods.aHAH! Okay. Good to know. :word:

[triplet]

Wow, since 2003?! If that's the case, I'm glad I've only started to become aware of this casting debate this year. It's been a headache so far... I don't know how you guys have hanged on.

LOL!

:D

Yeah, things were real fun around here just after the Teen Choice Awards in August of 2004. I was still lurking back then since I didn't actually sign up for a login until Sept of that year, but I joined up to defend Welling when it got so ugly.

I'm not sure you really missed anything since this is like "Casting Wars: Part Deux"...

This is like deja vu all over again.

[TheLongestDay]

yeh only this time welling could actually get the role!

[AgentPat]

yeh only this time welling could actually get the role!Shh!!! Don't jinx us. Every time we get excited, some moron rains on our parade, usually with a call to the King Rainman himself, Al Gough. :p ;) :D

[TheLongestDay]

i really dont believe that even was Al Gough

[Mig-El]

I know this is random, but have anyone here seen the mock JLA movie poster by Alex Ross for Wizard Magazine. It has Tom's name in the credits. :)

[The Incredible Hulk]

no, do you have a link to that?

[triplet]

yeh only this time welling could actually get the role!

Quoted for truth!

:up:

But I guess the big difference this time is that there is no flat-out warfare between feuding camps.

The mods learned their lessons, thus the Thou Shalt not Discuss/bash SR in the SV forums/Thou Shalt Not Discuss/Bash Welling in the SR forums edicts that still linger to this day...

However, from what I understand some pretty serious bashing of Welling still does happen on other forums and Routh/SR disrespect does happen in here from time to time...

*shrug*

It's why I stay over here. I don't need the migraines I get when I see endless fanboys who don't watch what they call "Dawson's-creek-ville" bash Tom.

I had wandered over to the Other Films/DC Comic based films forum (the only place JLA appears to be discussed besides this thread 'round here) earlier today and there was plenty of Welling bashing in there.

And I'm not sure Tom getting the job will make it any better.

There will always be haters but I think it will be darkest before the dawn, when the film finally is relased and people can see for themselves how Tom does in the part...

Short of him totally nailing the role and delivering a perfect, spot-on performance, I'm not sure what else he can do to win some people over to him as Superman.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Its nice seeing two scoopers working together to get this thing done & over with.

[Mig-El]

no, do you have a link to that?

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/Gallery/alexross-movieposter.jpg

I was bored earlier and found it. hehe.

[Showtime]

Thats a nice poster.

[TheLongestDay]

Quoted for truth!

:up:

But I guess the big difference this time is that there is no flat-out warfare between feuding camps.

The mods learned their lessons, thus the Thou Shalt not Discuss/bash SR in the SV forums/Thou Shalt Not Discuss/Bash Welling in the SR forums edicts that still linger to this day...

However, from what I understand some pretty serious bashing of Welling still does happen on other forums and Routh/SR disrespect does happen in here from time to time...

*shrug*

It's why I stay over here. I don't need the migraines I get when I see endless fanboys who don't watch what they call "Dawson's-creek-ville" bash Tom.

I had wandered over to the Other Films/DC Comic based films forum (the only place JLA appears to be discussed besides this thread 'round here) earlier today and there was plenty of Welling bashing in there.

And I'm not sure Tom getting the job will make it any better.

There will always be haters but I think it will be darkest before the dawn, when the film finally is relased and people can see for themselves how Tom does in the part...

Short of him totally nailing the role and delivering a perfect, spot-on performance, I'm not sure what else he can do to win some people over to him as Superman.

You know what tho,as much as i disagreed with some of the artistic choices Singer made with SR,i thought it was ok-it wasnt what id dreamed it could be for about 10 years but hey....

I watched it again recently,and today i caught up on some smallville (waiting for my season 6 boxset to arrive) and it just feels like superman.

Its not bogged down by trying to emulate any past films yet at the same time-pays homage to them in a very respectful way.

Routh was pretty good-but Welling just has "it",this aura around him that just makes him seem believable as a Superman...im sure im rambling but hey its how i feel...

[SamuraiSon6]

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/Gallery/alexross-movieposter.jpg

I was bored earlier and found it. hehe.



nice find:) !

[The Incredible Hulk]

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/Gallery/alexross-movieposter.jpg

I was bored earlier and found it. hehe.

thats pretty cool, never saw that before although I'm guessing it's a bit old since they have the film coming out in 2005. Ross has always been a pretty outspoken Welling supporter. When you've got giants like Ross, Jeph Loeb, and Christopher Reeve in your corner, that speaks volumes.

[triplet]

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/Gallery/alexross-movieposter.jpg

I was bored earlier and found it. hehe.

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/Gallery/alexross-movieposter.jpg

SWEET!

:up:

Tom Welling, Christian Bale (who we know isn't going to be in it), Charisma Carpenter, but I can't read some of those other names...

Is that bigger anywhere else?

[TheLongestDay]

.....and Jason Mewes

[The Incredible Hulk]

.....and Jason Mewes

LOL it's Jason Lewis, they guy from Sex and the City among other things

[OobeDoobBenubi]

They might be able to use that poser one day :ninja:

[Serene]

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/Gallery/alexross-movieposter.jpg

I was bored earlier and found it. hehe.

Oooh, I like that.

He's got some interesting casting choices there.

Supes - Welling
Batman - Christian Bale
WW - Charisma Carpenter

Also: Jason Behr (rawr!), Shane West, Jason Lewis, and Wes Bentley.

I think it also says Bill Paxton and Vin Diesel.

I wonder who is who?

[TheLongestDay]

thats pretty cool, never saw that before although I'm guessing it's a bit old since they have the film coming out in 2005. Ross has always been a pretty outspoken Welling supporter. When you've got giants like Ross, Jeph Loeb, and Christopher Reeve in your corner, that speaks volumes.

lol i was referring to that comment...Jason Mewes said he liked Welling aswell in Wizard...


oh and Jason Lewis IS Aquaman....(or HE-MAN)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I always saw Jason Behr as a Batman type if Bale is not in it

[Serene]

Heh! Okay... I think he meant Jason Lewis to be Aquaman.

I'm good with that. :up: :D

http://www.adage.com/images/random/absoluthunk_big.jpg

[TheLongestDay]

gah! you couldve posted this one....lol

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/jason-lewis-2004-vanity-fair-oscar-party-00Oqcv.jpg

[Serene]

gah! you couldve posted this one....lol


My picture looks more like Aquaman. :p And of course, I was going for authenticity. *cough*

:D

[Batgort]

Haha seriously -- no need for The Absolute Hunk to be posted, hahahaha

[TheLongestDay]

My picture looks more like Aquaman. :p And of course, I was going for authenticity. *cough*

:D

....hmmmmmmmmm:cwink:

[triplet]

Heh! Okay... I think he meant Jason Lewis to be Aquaman.

I'm good with that. :up: :D

http://www.adage.com/images/random/absoluthunk_big.jpg

LOL!

Quoted for truth!

:D

[Mig-El]

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/Gallery/alexross-movieposter.jpg

SWEET!

:up:

Tom Welling, Christian Bale (who we know isn't going to be in it), Charisma Carpenter, but I can't read some of those other names...

Is that bigger anywhere else?

I'm trying to find a bigger size, but no luck. If anyone do, post it here. I love the poster.

[AgentPat]

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/Gallery/alexross-movieposter.jpg

It's tough to read, but here's a little of what I *could* make out:

J-L-A
The Justice League of America

Warner Brothers Pictures presents a Wachowski Brothers film in a Joel Silver production in association with __ Carl ____ production

"Justice League of America" staring Tom Welling, Christian Bale, Charisma Carpenter, Jason Behr, Shane West, Jason Lewes, Wes Bentley with Bill Paxton and Vin Diesel as Despero. Directed by James Hohner (?) _____ Lisa _____ Produced by Al Giddings, Grant Hill, Sharon Mann

Heh. This is fun. ;)

[Showtime]

Whakowskis!

[ZIPBAGS]

For the love of god...Please stop showing that Absolute picture.

[The Incredible Hulk]

I'm never drinking vodka AGAIN :eek:

[Serene]

For the love of god...Please stop showing that Absolute picture.

What do you have against vodka? :confused:

:hyper: :word:

I'm never drinking vodka AGAIN :eek:


I can NOT stop laughing! :D

[AgentPat]

For the love of god...Please stop showing that Absolute picture.I'm never drinking vodka AGAIN :eek:http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/laugh.gif

You guys KILL me!!!! :p :woot:

[C. Lee]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/laugh.gif

You guys KILL me!!!! :p :woot:

Some of us are secure enough to not be bothered.

[Tomwelling4sups]

I'm never drinking vodka AGAIN :eek:

never touching a bottle of it either, you don't know where its been :eek:

[Tomwelling4sups]

Some of us are secure enough to not be bothered.

I could take this comment out of context, but I won't ;) :D

[Serene]

Some of us are secure enough to not be bothered.

Woot for C. Lee. \o/ :D

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/7334/urlxr6.jpg

[DvilDog]

That poster is awesome wish I could get it bigger myself. Can't wait till we can start manipping all of jla that's gonna be fun

[Jake Cassidy]

Jason Lewis is a damn good looking guy, and this is coming from a straight man. BTW, I think that he would be a great Aquaman.

[LexCorp]

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/Gallery/alexross-movieposter.jpg

It's tough to read, but here's a little of what I *could* make out:

J-L-A

The Justice League of America


Warner Brothers Pictures presents a Wachowski Brothers film in a Joel Silver production in association with __ Carl ____ production


"Justice League of America" staring Tom Welling, Christian Bale, Charisma Carpenter, Jason Behr, Shane West, Jason Lewes, Wes Bentley with Bill Paxton and Vin Diesel as Despero. Directed by James Hohner (?) _____ Lisa _____ Produced by Al Giddings, Grant Hill, Sharon Mann
Heh. This is fun. ;)

Awesomw fan poster

[RakuMon]

I know this is random, but have anyone here seen the mock JLA movie poster by Alex Ross for Wizard Magazine. It has Tom's name in the credits. :)

no, do you have a link to that?

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/Gallery/alexross-movieposter.jpg

I was bored earlier and found it. hehe.

Ross did that poster back in 2002 for Wizard. Occasionally, Wizard likes to print fake movie posters in their pages. And it's no secret that Ross is a big supporter of Welling as Superman.

More of Ross' pro-Welling artwork:

http://superherohype.com/nextraimages/tomwellingsupes1.jpg
http://superherohype.com/nextraimages/tomwellingsupes2.jpg

These even made the SHH front page back in the day: http://www.superherohype.com/superman/index.php?id=1205

http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/asimov/20/magazi7c.jpg
Four covers for TV Guide back in 2001.

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/000062/Smallville_season_3_print.jpg
Special poster for the SV S3 DVD.

Here's what he told Wizard about the Welling/Reeve poster last year (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/000062004.cfm):

CHRISTOPHER REEVE & TOM WELLING
“Smallville” Season 3 DVD, 2004

“This was done under complete agreement with the Chris Reeve Foundation. So people that directly represent him were judging this; as to whether or not Chris saw it, I can’t say. The creepy thing of it is that right at the time that they were ready to promote the hell out of this [for the Season 3 DVD], Chris died. So it wound up being this very haunting thing. It really wasn’t his time to go.

“I had to make the painting up from references of previous things I had of [Christopher Reeve]. I didn’t want to have a portrait of Chris as he looked when he was 25. Chris really needed to have something that acknowledged what he was today, but not necessarily the bald Luthor look he was currently sporting. By showing the painting with this tight close-up on both their faces, you could circumvent the breathing tube and draw any attention away from the current state of Chris’ living. It was all just there in his face.

“The concept of the piece is there’s all this red in it—the drapery behind him is the red Superman cape. And so reflected in Chris’ glasses is the ‘S’ shield backwards, the actual symbol of the cape.”

[DvilDog]

Excellent painting I had never seen that. I hope that once jla gets off the ground they will have Ross do some more artwork for the movie

[AgentPat]

Excellent painting I had never seen that. I hope that once jla gets off the ground they will have Ross do some more artwork for the moviehttp://www.patcostello.com/smileys/worthy.gif

I'd LOVE to see that. Can you imagine Ross being contracted to make the REAL movie poster? It'd be the greatest thing since the Brothers Hildebrandt Star Wars posters.

http://www.collectinghq.com/im/0007447.jpg

:D

<- getting carried away LOL

[DvilDog]

It would be right up there IMO of course I prefer super heroes to star wars so that's just me. But Ross just seems to have that talent. I mean a lot of artists have talent but his stuff makes just wanna stop and say good god. The two drawings of welling as supes. One is my lap top desktop and the other is the wallpaper on my blackberry

[COMPO]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/laugh.gif

You guys KILL me!!!! :p :woot:

What do you have against vodka?




I can NOT stop laughing!

I'm never drinking vodka AGAIN :eek:

never touching a bottle of it either, you don't know where its been

yeah, in back alley's wre cats piss on them.

it doesn't really bother me. I thought it was quite funny cos.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/worthy.gif

I'd LOVE to see that. Can you imagine Ross being contracted to make the REAL movie poster? It'd be the greatest thing since the Brothers Hildebrandt Star Wars posters.

http://www.collectinghq.com/im/0007447.jpg

:D

<- getting carried away LOL

star wars had boss posters but, really bad trailers.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/worthy.gif

I'd LOVE to see that. Can you imagine Ross being contracted to make the REAL movie poster?

Why not ? Didn't he do paintings for the Spidey 2 credit sequence...?

[AgentPat]

Why not ? Didn't he do paintings for the Spidey 2 credit sequence...?Dunno 'bout Spider-Man, but I'd love to see Ross involved with JL artwork. One of the rumors that made the rounds during the early days of SR was that Ross was going to do an opening montage sequence of comic panels, similar to what we got in S:TM. The thought had me drooling in anticipation, but sadly, it never happened. I believe Ross had *some* involvement with SR, but for something like JL, I'd like to see his artwork plastered all over the place using the visages of the actors cast in the film. Hot damn, how cool would that be? :wow:

[Prison Mike]

yeah, Ross did the illustrations for Spidey 2 credits. I was disappointed that he didn't return for the spidey 3 credits. Maybe he could do the opening credits with illustrations for the JL movie. But that would be ripping off Spider-Man 2 and Marvel may have a problem with it.

[COMPO]

what if the credits were to intercut between each of the origins of the JL team, kind of like a the previously from Superman 2.

[Prison Mike]

what if the credits were to intercut between each of the origins of the JL team, kind of like a the previously from Superman 2.

if they were to do that in illustrations, then that would be awesome!

[Eddie Brock]

if they were to do that in ALEX ROSS illustrations, then that would be awesome!
Tweaked...ever so slightly. :yay:

[Prison Mike]

^lol, yeah that's what I meant. Only if Alex Ross did it, then it would be awesome.

[Eddie Brock]

Kind of like the SM2 credits...

[Prison Mike]

Exactly.

[Asteroid-Man]

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/Gallery/alexross-movieposter.jpg

It's tough to read, but here's a little of what I *could* make out:
J-L-A
The Justice League of America

Warner Brothers Pictures presents a Wachowski Brothers film in a Joel Silver production in association with __ Carl ____ production

"Justice League of America" staring Tom Welling, Christian Bale, Charisma Carpenter, Jason Behr, Shane West, Jason Lewes, Wes Bentley with Bill Paxton and Vin Diesel as Despero. Directed by James Hohner (?) _____ Lisa _____ Produced by Al Giddings, Grant Hill, Sharon MannHeh. This is fun. ;)
I can post the whole thing tomorrow or sometime this week.

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/Gallery/alexross-movieposter.jpg

SWEET!

:up:

Tom Welling, Christian Bale (who we know isn't going to be in it), Charisma Carpenter, but I can't read some of those other names...

Is that bigger anywhere else?
I have it. I can see if I can scan it or something.

Awesomw fan poster
It's not a fanposter. Alex Ross did it.

[DvilDog]

Its turned into the Alex Ross appreciation thread. Hey WB you reading any of this make TW supes and then have Alex Ross do the artwork for the movie. I am having a geekgasm right now just thinking about it

[Billy Batson]

More of Ross' pro-Welling artwork:

http://superherohype.com/nextraimages/tomwellingsupes1.jpg
http://superherohype.com/nextraimages/tomwellingsupes2.jpg



http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/000062/Smallville_season_3_print.jpg


Three of my all time favorites.


Its turned into the Alex Ross appreciation thread. Hey WB you reading any of this make TW supes and then have Alex Ross do the artwork for the movie. I am having a geekgasm right now just thinking about it

:woot:

[Serene]

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/000062/Smallville_season_3_print.jpg
Special poster for the SV S3 DVD.

Don't remind me. :mad:
Do you know how many BestBuys I drove to trying to find a box set that include that poster???? I never did find one. :(

[ZIPBAGS]

As great as these Alex Ross posters are. Anything new in from Emijay or Sanchez?

On a side note. In the DC Comic film section they are ripping into Emijay.

[zerohour films]

As great as these Alex Ross posters are. Anything new in from Emijay or Sanchez?

On a side note. In the DC Comic film section they are ripping into Emijay.


Haven't seen anything new yet.

Yeah, I saw what was being written about her and steered clear of those threads. Not only has this been a new battle in the casting wars it's also been a war about which source or journalist or whatever is more legit.

Crazy times...

[AgentPat]

Okay, I just have to laugh. The troll from CD is not posting over at IESB. In his infinite wisdom, he called Variety an "industry tabloid" and thinks Entertainment Weekly is a more reliable publication for entertainment news.

Bwaaaahaaaaahahahahaha!!!

What an idiot. That's so inane, it's not even worth responding to. Just thought I'd give everybody here a chuckle.

Carry on. :woot:

[Mig-El]

I can post the whole thing tomorrow or sometime this week.


I have it. I can see if I can scan it or something.


It's not a fanposter. Alex Ross did it.

Thanks so much! I'm looking forward to it. I've been searching everywhere.

[Sky Captain]

You know what would be even better than just Alex Ross?
Alex Ross and JIM LEE
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/lazycard/batmanandsuperman.jpg

And is it just me, or does Ross make Tom look really feminine in his drawings? And that huge 'S' really doesn't suit him. But it's the thought that counts. :D

[SamuraiSon6]

You know what would be even better than just Alex Ross?
Alex Ross and JIM LEE
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/lazycard/batmanandsuperman.jpg

And is it just me, or does Ross make Tom look really feminine in his drawings? And that huge 'S' really doesn't suit him. But it's the thought that counts. :D


thats an impressive piece of art!:wow:

[DvilDog]

its a great piece of work but something is wrong with supermans face oh and they both look like they are on steroids.

[LastSon Kal-El]

Not that this has anything to do with this thread but, Smallville Season 7 is one of the most searched topics on Yahoo's Home page. Maybe our guy has something to do with that.

[TheLongestDay]

anyone read the news about Routh playing dylan dog yet? does this mean hes DEFINATELY not playing Supes in JL?

[AgentPat]

anyone read the news about Routh playing dylan dog yet? does this mean hes DEFINITELY not playing Supes in JL?I would have thunk he definitely wasn't doing it regardless, but how reliable is the casting report you read? Did it appear in Variety or HR? Is Iris confirming it? Or is the only mention of it on that Italian site so far? If the latter, I wouldn't put much stock in it. Remember Teen Wolf? :ninja:

[TheLongestDay]

Its on the main page

[AgentPat]

Its on the main pageHmm. So it is. Looks like they're referring to a report over at CBR. If true - and I still question it because that is FAR from an official casting announcement - the report says principal is to start in CT soon. It's just a horror film though and apparently not a big production (reference the reported budget). Welling did The Fog in three weeks - and he did it concurrently with production on a TV series in which he was the star. So I wouldn't make any assumptions on Routh's availability going into 2008. Good for him if it's true though. :)

[Showtime]

Seems like a small production that will have a quick shooting schedule, this wouldn't have an effect on MOS or JLA, but he has lined up some movies.

[Prison Mike]

I'm just glad he's working. It seems like he's been sitting on the couch waiting for the phone call about MOS. He hasn't been in much of anything since SR. He did voice a villain on The Batman, though.

[Showtime]

I'm just glad he's working. It seems like he's been sitting on the couch waiting for the phone call about MOS. He hasn't been in much of anything since SR. He did voice a villain on The Batman, though.

He lined up two other movies besides Dylan Dog, but I think his assumption probably was there was going to be an MOS.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Even if The Man Of Steel does not happen I am sure that the WB will keep Brandon around for various movies.

[mellyM]

Hmm. So it is. Looks like they're referring to a report over at CBR. If true - and I still question it because that is FAR from an official casting announcement - the report says principal is to start in CT soon. It's just a horror film though and apparently not a big production (reference the reported budget). Welling did The Fog in three weeks - and he did it concurrently with production on a TV series in which he was the star. So I wouldn't make any assumptions on Routh's availability going into 2008. Good for him if it's true though. :)
The Fog took longer than 3 weeks.

[Migu-EL]

The Fog took longer than 3 weeks.


It shouldn't have.:ninja: :woot:

[AgentPat]

The Fog took longer than 3 weeks.Of course, but Welling only spent three weeks shooting his scenes.

Excerpt from Variety, 1/25/06:

"I did 'The Fog' in a fog," Welling laughs. "They shot for a month before I got there and it was shot at night and really fast."

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117936815


There's another article/interview out there where it is stated specifically. When I find it, I'll post it. But I do remember being surprised by that because he was the star of the film. He did his CBTD2 scenes in ten days. He might not have been the full on star of that pic, but it was a much bigger production than The Fog.

Anyhoo... the point is, they can make it work if they want to. That goes for Welling OR Routh.

[musclesforsupes]

Okay,

My fellow wellingfans! Arent we close to that 5 to 10 day period when an announcement could be made? Seems like things were crazy on Saturday with Gough and at IESB

[TheLongestDay]

i know for a fact im going crazy! everytime i log in i expect to see "Full cast for JUSTICE LEAGUE the movie"

[DvilDog]

i know for a fact im going crazy! everytime i log in i expect to see "Full cast for JUSTICE LEAGUE the movie"


I would faint if I saw that. Its times like this that makes you wish you knew someone who knew someone who knew someone that knew who they casted.

Actually I dont want that many degrees of seperation. i wish I knew someone who knew the cast list there ya go:)

Cause I personally believe they know who the cast is. If the script is as far along as they say it is, they almost have to.

[DvilDog]

although he is out of the running. See its crap like this that makes me angry. Im glad hes their choice though.

http://www.qww.cinematical.com/gallery/justice-league-cast-wish-list/430307/

[The Incredible Hulk]

ya know I dont hate the idea of Jason Statham as Batman. He's got the gruff angry thing going on and he can fight like a madman

[DvilDog]

ya know I dont hate the idea of Jason Statham as Batman. He's got the gruff angry thing going on and he can fight like a madman


Most of their choices are good. Especially statham as batman. i had never even thought of him. As long as he can get rid of that accent. Not real sure on their choice for aquaman or MM but I am cool with everyone else.

[DvilDog]

Most of this is old news so bear with me cause i will be posing a question sometime during this post. So the interview with Al was is actually true saying that tom isnt going to be in this movie at all. So the question is with more than a few sites on the internet saying that Tom hasnt been approached or is no longer in the running, would/could WB talk to tom and his agent without the consent of of Al or Miles? I guess basically back door them. Could he have the role without them knowing at all? Couldnt WB use the excuse of Plausible Deniability as the reason why they kept Al/Miles out of the know.

I mean granted if they know they arent going to come right out and say hey our boy is the new Superman. It just really bugs me how adament he was about not being approached at all and Tom's agent didnt tell me s*** and so on and so forth.

Ok now im just rambling

[AgentPat]

although he is out of the running. See its crap like this that makes me angry. Im glad he's their choice though.

http://www.qww.cinematical.com/gallery/justice-league-cast-wish-list/430307/I wish I was keeping track of all the sites that have been picking Welling. Shockingly, even Empire Magazine sited him for the part last week.

Regardless of whether or not Welling has ever been approached for the role (as Gough would have the public believe), I really have to wonder what the suits at Warners think about all of the support he's getting even *after* Gough's vehement denials. It's almost as if people are saying "we don't care what you say, we want him anyway."

Gosh, I hope they're watching. :o

[The Incredible Hulk]

Most of this is old news so bear with me cause i will be posing a question sometime during this post. So the interview with Al was is actually true saying that tom isnt going to be in this movie at all. So the question is with more than a few sites on the internet saying that Tom hasnt been approached or is no longer in the running, would/could WB talk to tom and his agent without the consent of of Al or Miles? I guess basically back door them. Could he have the role without them knowing at all? Couldnt WB use the excuse of Plausible Deniability as the reason why they kept Al/Miles out of the know.



I mean granted if they know they arent going to come right out and say hey our boy is the new Superman. It just really bugs me how adament he was about not being approached at all and Tom's agent didnt tell me s*** and so on and so forth.



Ok now im just rambling


Sure they COULD. Gough doesnt represent Welling, nor does Welling have a contract with Gough, his deal with with WB TV.

But WOULD they? I think Gough would have to know because the scheduling for filming would need to be worked out. Plus I dont think it's something they would hide from him regardless.

[DvilDog]

I dont want to be a fly in the ointment cause I want this to happen just as much as a lot of you do but it just seems with all these reports going around that the WB isnt listening and we are going to get someone else for Supes which is totally going to turn me off to this flick. my glass half full opinion can only last so long. sorry to be a bummer:(

[Serene]

I dont want to be a fly in the ointment cause I want this to happen just as much as a lot of you do but it just seems with all these reports going around that the WB isnt listening and we are going to get someone else for Supes which is totally going to turn me off to this flick. my glass half full opinion can only last so long. sorry to be a bummer:(

I don't think anyone is convinced that Tom will be Superman yet. Your concerns are shared by a lot of us that are still hoping for this to come through.

I can't even speculate about it anymore. I simply don't know. I just hope.

[Serene]

Gosh, I hope they're watching. :o

I do too!
But didn't Tom lead in all the big polls during the last casting wars? Was it the MSN poll that was huge? They ignored them then, I hope they don't do it again.

[mellyM]

I wish I was keeping track of all the sites that have been picking Welling. Shockingly, even Empire Magazine sited him for the part last week.

Regardless of whether or not Welling has ever been approached for the role (as Gough would have the public believe), I really have to wonder what the suits at Warners think about all of the support he's getting even *after* Gough's vehement denials. It's almost as if people are saying "we don't care what you say, we want him anyway."

Gosh, I hope they're watching. :o

did something happen recently that officially said Tom wasn't doing it?

[LastSon Kal-El]

Yeah, Darth Gough. He referred to Tom Welling's involvement as Bu***hit.

[AgentPat]

...it just seems with all these reports going around that the WB isnt listening and we are going to get someone else for Supes which is totally going to turn me off to this flick. my glass half full opinion can only last so long. sorry to be a bummer:(I don't think anyone is convinced that Tom will be Superman yet. Your concerns are shared by a lot of us that are still hoping for this to come through.Exactly. Casting Welling makes my anticipation for JL go from "looking forward to seeing it" to "hyperventilating with excitement."

We're all keeping our fingers crossed, DvilDog. :)

But didn't Tom lead in all the big polls during the last casting wars? Was it the MSN poll that was huge?That was MSNBC. 74% of over 66 THOUSAND people voting said TW would make the best Superman:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5270489/

CNN did one too. 55% of over 28 thousand people said the same thing here:
http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/12640.exclude.html

They ignored them then, I hope they don't do it again.I'm not sure they ignored anything; casting for the last film was pretty much the director's decision. The studio just had to approve it.

I'm not sure what the stipulations are this time around, however.

[The Incredible Hulk]

yeah that director "ignored" a lot of things, like the past 30 years of the comics for starters

[LastSon Kal-El]

Pat, I've been lurking for some time now, and it never ceases to amaze me at the wealth of info. you have at your disposal.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Hell, I've known her for years and I'm still amazed.... ;)

[AgentPat]

HAHAHAHA!!!! Thanks, guys! I try. :D :up:

[bootspark]

Pat, at Bluetights, you mentioned in a very informative post, that Welling was never considered for SR.
But you never explained his statement at the 2004 Teen Choice Awards.
Can you? :)

[The Incredible Hulk]

Are you asking her WHAT the statement was? , or are you asking her to explain what he meant if it wasnt Superman?

[AgentPat]

Pat, at Bluetights, you mentioned in a very informative post, that Welling was never considered for SR.
But you never explained his statement at the 2004 Teen Choice Awards.
Can you? :)Whoawhoawhoa.... I said SINGER never considered him an option for SR. I believe Welling was "considered" however, just not by Singer.

As to the Teen Choice comments, gosh, who knows Boots? We know it wasn't in reference to The Fog or the CBTD sequel because The Fog wasn't even in the planning stages, and the first CBTD film had just finished its run in theaters; the sequel and Welling's casting wasn't announced till the following year.

So, my personal opinion? There was some kind of pre agreement made, possibly just a verbal one, and things were in motion. But there were ALL sorts of rumors flying during that time. Welling's weren't the only ones. Supposedly, Caviezel was actually signed by Warners. The whole situation was just a clusterbleep of rumors. On boards like this, the trons were peaking and everybody was on edge.

[zerohour films]

Whoawhoawhoa.... I said SINGER never considered him an option for SR. I believe Welling was "considered" however, just not by Singer.

As to the Teen Choice comments, gosh, who knows Boots? We know it wasn't in reference to The Fog or the CBTD sequel because The Fog wasn't even in the planning stages, and the first CBTD film had just finished its run in theaters; the sequel and Welling's casting wasn't announced till the following year.

So, my personal opinion? There was some kind of pre agreement made, possibly just a verbal one, and things were in motion. But there were ALL sorts of rumors flying during that time. Welling's weren't the only ones. Supposedly, Caviezel was actually signed by Warners. The whole situation was just a clusterbleep of rumors. On boards like this, the trons were peaking and everybody was on edge.

It's been a little while and my memory is a little rusty...so sorry to ask you to for repeat info...but hey it's this or the usual ping pong game of is TW in or out...

Could you refresh my memory for me...What was the statement TW made at the Teen Choice Awards? Wasn't it a sly answer to a Superman movie or upcoming movie he was to be in--related question?

Also, didn't Caviezel say in an interview somewhere that he was upset about the Superman thing at how they did him. Like you mentioned he was supposedly signed and then they went another direction?

And I agree, Pat do you have some type of Superman news folder stored on your HDD divided and cross referenced by actor/year/movie/BS or something??

It is amazing at the quotes and links you can dig up.

[AgentPat]

It's been a little while and my memory is a little rusty...so sorry to ask you to for repeat info...but hey it's this or the usual ping pong game of is TW in or out...

Could you refresh my memory for me...What was the statement TW made at the Teen Choice Awards? Wasn't it a sly answer to a Superman movie or upcoming movie he was to be in--related question?Here ya go:

"Smallville" star Tom Welling told reporters at Sunday's Teen Choice Awards that he's signed on for a movie but is not allowed to discuss it, fueling rumors that he will star in "X-Men" director Bryan Singer's new Superman movie. "I'm sworn to secrecy," Welling said with a smile. "It's too early." A spokesperson for Warner Bros. said the role has not yet been cast.

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1490116/08112004/story.jhtml

Also, didn't Caviezel say in an interview somewhere that he was upset about the Superman thing at how they did him. Like you mentioned he was supposedly signed and then they went another direction?This is a long story. Lemme come back to it later (food's on the table and hubby's hungry.)

And I agree, Pat do you have some type of Superman news folder stored on your HDD divided and cross referenced by actor/year/movie/BS or something??

It is amazing at the quotes and links you can dig up.LOL! Yeah, basically. I've got quite a few folders, not to mention a bleepload of bookmarks. ;)

Be back in a bit...

[zerohour films]

Here ya go:

"Smallville" star Tom Welling told reporters at Sunday's Teen Choice Awards that he's signed on for a movie but is not allowed to discuss it, fueling rumors that he will star in "X-Men" director Bryan Singer's new Superman movie. "I'm sworn to secrecy," Welling said with a smile. "It's too early." A spokesperson for Warner Bros. said the role has not yet been cast.


http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1490116/08112004/story.jhtml
This is a long story. Lemme come back to it later (food's on the table and hubby's hungry.)

LOL! Yeah, basically. I've got quite a few folders, not to mention a bleepload of bookmarks. ;)

Be back in a bit...

Yeah, now I remember about the TW quote.

Don't stress over the Caviezel thing, just curious. I remember reading bits here and there about it, but couldn't remember if it was rumor or had been confirmed some what. As you can see I have been more of lurker around these parts than a poster for a few years.

Thanks again!

[Syncos]

ya know I dont hate the idea of Jason Statham as Batman. He's got the gruff angry thing going on and he can fight like a madman

I kinda like the idea of Statham, if it's a treatment were we'd only see Batman in costume. I can't see him as Bruce Wayne, though.

Pat, I've been lurking for some time now, and it never ceases to amaze me at the wealth of info. you have at your disposal.

In my experience It's not so much the info that Pat has at her disposal, as much as it is her use of it. There are a good many helpful people on these boards, but Pat is damned near always the first to jump to help someone with info. If knowledge is power, then Pat could take down big blue.

... Good thing she uses her power for good.

[Serene]

Here ya go:

"Smallville" star Tom Welling told reporters at Sunday's Teen Choice Awards that he's signed on for a movie but is not allowed to discuss it, fueling rumors that he will star in "X-Men" director Bryan Singer's new Superman movie. "I'm sworn to secrecy," Welling said with a smile. "It's too early." A spokesperson for Warner Bros. said the role has not yet been cast.

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1490116/08112004/story.jhtml


I believe there was actual video of this too. I'll go look for it.

[TWistim]

Just got thru catching up on 2+ days of posts and it seems we're still at square one! My computer crashed on Sat. and I have been in withdrawal mode waiting to get back online. (I just knew the big announcement would come and I'd miss it.) Anyway, I don't have any inside info and I'm admittedly biased but in my heart of hearts I just really think Tom Welling is going to be Superman in JLA. Noone else makes any sense to me given all that we know.

1. Tom embodies the part. He has the look, the talent, the experience and noone deserves it more.

2. Superman Returns was a disappointment. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if that was not a fact. Yeah, it made its money back but it did not break box office records and did not inspire a new generation of fans which was the plan. It did however split the already-existig fan base.

3. WB still wants a piece of the comic/movie world pie. And now they want vindication for the misstep they made.

4. Welling was/is the fan favorite overall to portray this beloved character. He was considered last time but in the end they wanted their cake (a successful TV show) and to eat it too (a successful movie franchise). Not wanting to sacrifice their #1 show they took a chance and tried to have both.

5. This time around the TV show has already passed the 100th episode mark and is gearing down to the final moment when Clark becomes Superman to the world. It is actually at a point to be used as the perfect lead in/promotion vehicle for the movie.

6. This movie is a great opportunity for Tom. If it is successful it opens all kinds of doors for him. He is already typecast as Superman. This doesn't mean he can't break out of that but in order to do it he has to be given the chance and offered roles to play. The real problem is he may be typecast as a tv actor if he doesn't get a big break soon. This movie moves him into a whole new category.

7. If WB wants Tom they can make it happen. The bottomline in Hollywood is always money. This movie is their big money maker for summer 2009. They already have a great script and a reputable director. Now they have to get the casting right and the pieces will all fall into place.


I'll be glad when this wait is over.
And if my sheer force of will could have anything to do with it we'd be celebrating right now! :super:

[Serene]

I believe there was actual video of this too. I'll go look for it.

Not finding it (did I hallucinate seeing that clip?), but I did run across this:

http://www.superherohype.com/batman/index.php?id=1911

Remember the uproar over that? :D I don't remember if it was ever revealed who did it, but what a way to stir the pot!

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Darth Gough

Nice

:woot:

[avidreader]

LOL! Yeah, basically. I've got quite a few folders, not to mention a bleepload of bookmarks. ;)



... and I have first hand knowledge to back that up everyone. Pat's a winner, when it comes to resources. :yay:



1. Tom embodies the part. He has the look, the talent, the experience and noone deserves it more.

2. Superman Returns was a disappointment. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if that was not a fact. Yeah, it made its money back but it did not break box office records and did not inspire a new generation of fans which was the plan. It did however split the already-existig fan base.

3. WB still wants a piece of the comic/movie world pie. And now they want vindication for the misstep they made.

4. Welling was/is the fan favorite overall to portray this beloved character. He was considered last time but in the end they wanted their cake (a successful TV show) and to eat it too (a successful movie franchise). Not wanting to sacrifice their #1 show they took a chance and tried to have both.

5. This time around the TV show has already passed the 100th episode mark and is gearing down to the final moment when Clark becomes Superman to the world. It is actually at a point to be used as the perfect lead in/promotion vehicle for the movie.

6. This movie is a great opportunity for Tom. If it is successful it opens all kinds of doors for him. He is already typecast as Superman. This doesn't mean he can't break out of that but in order to do it he has to be given the chance and offered roles to play. The real problem is he may be typecast as a tv actor if he doesn't get a big break soon. This movie moves him into a whole new category.

7. If WB wants Tom they can make it happen. The bottomline in Hollywood is always money. This movie is their big money maker for summer 2009. They already have a great script and a reputable director. Now they have to get the casting right and the pieces will all fall into place.


I'll be glad when this wait is over.
And if my sheer force of will could have anything to do with it we'd be celebrating right now! :super:

Wow Twistim!! Fantastic post, I just hope that WB is looking at the same things here.

Not finding it (did I hallucinate seeing that clip?), but I did run across this:

http://www.superherohype.com/batman/index.php?id=1911

Remember the uproar over that? :D I don't remember if it was ever revealed who did it, but what a way to stir the pot!

LOL! I remember that. :woot: Mr Kent. :ninja:

It would be great if you could find that clip from the TCA's, I dont think I've ever seen that particular interview before.