Tom Welling as Superman

[Syncos]

Large Rant
Wow Twistim!! Fantastic post, I just hope that WB is looking at the same things here.

I second that. Or erm... Quoted the quote for accurate assessment.

That's how that's supposed to go, right? It's been awhile since I was actively posting things. :woot:

[Zorex]

Not finding it (did I hallucinate seeing that clip?), but I did run across this:

http://www.superherohype.com/batman/index.php?id=1911

Remember the uproar over that? :D I don't remember if it was ever revealed who did it, but what a way to stir the pot!
OMG...so long ago. That was...crazy, to say the least. It feels weird to be entering somewhat similar territory, though perhaps not as entertaining. All we keep getting are conflicting statements from various "in the know" parties. Gah. Something juicy has gotta come out soon about this movie. They can't cast forever if they actually have any hope of actually getting to the production stage.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I think Warner Bros. may be going as crazy as we are because they are backed up against a wall in a sense. We don't know if Tom was being considered or was aproached for the role in the initial stages or as someone mentioned he might have been and then things fell through. But thanks to the leaks, even if they wanted to go with another guy or go back to Brandon, they can't because of the huge publicity and support that Welling's name has generated.
Now they can try to milk the publicity as much as they want before crushing everybody's dreams like the last time but they (at least we all hope they did) have learned the error of their ways and want to try and please the fans and that means getting Welling by any means necessary.
And if wasn't ever considered, there's enough evidence from all these polls and websites and comments.
Remember before Welling's name was thrown in the mix, there was barely any discussion on the JLA movie, it was even though of as rumor. After Welling was mentioned it was free publicity of the likes Warner could never buy. And in 2004 the same thing had already happaned and they seazed that publicity but failed to capitalize it. They never thought their movie and their choice would be rejected by a large number of the public.
That (the publicity and public that Welling brings) deserves attention and they would be idiots if they hadn't noticed it by now. I believe they will try to get Tom. If now they will have to prepare for a backlash, possibly bigger than the last time and face the possibility of a big rejection of this movie that up until Welling was thought of as a huge rushed up joke.
Welling's name brings credibility to the project and someone that ppl really want to see as a super-hero in the theaters. He may not be a hude draw in other movies but the name Welling and Superman are guaranteed money in the bank. I would bet everything I own in it.

[Syncos]

the name Welling and Superman are guaranteed money in the bank. I would bet everything I own in it.

Wait wait wait. You would -bet- everything you have that someone who's already characterized as Superman, would bring in money if they actually cast him as Superman? Someone tie this man down. He can't be thinking rationally.

[sunflowercyn]

Of course, but Welling only spent three weeks shooting his scenes.

Excerpt from Variety, 1/25/06:"I did 'The Fog' in a fog," Welling laughs. "They shot for a month before I got there and it was shot at night and really fast."

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117936815There's another article/interview out there where it is stated specifically. When I find it, I'll post it. But I do remember being surprised by that because he was the star of the film. He did his CBTD2 scenes in ten days. He might not have been the full on star of that pic, but it was a much bigger production than The Fog.

Anyhoo... the point is, they can make it work if they want to. That goes for Welling OR Routh.

Thanks Pat for posting this article:word:

As for TW being able to shoot THE FOG and juggle SV, as we know both were shot in Vancouver so even though it was probably pretty tiring with proper scheduling The FOG got done. Where they filmed THE FOG was like a 10 minute speed boat ride from where SV does "on location" shoots as well so that helped ALOT I bet. What a sceduling nightmare if TW does get JLA if its shooting in OZ. 16 hours from Vancouver!

I remember last year at the beginning of season 6 that Alison Mack did an interview with Chuck at KRYPTONFAN and she mentioned SR and Tom.

If I remember right she said she was glad that Tom didn't do the movie because SV would have been over but he would have made a great Superman:) She also said she knew BR.

[bootspark]

"Although there was chatter early on about his taking on the bigscreen role of Superman (which ultimately went to newcomer Brandon Routh), there were too many conflicts, scheduling and otherwise for Welling to be cast, says Gough.....

"I think if he had ever been offered the movie, it would have killed the series," admits Gough. "I don't think Warner Bros. would have done that on a corporate level.....

Welling, 28, is coy when discussing the negotiations that took place. If he's disappointed at not being the new Superman, he won't say.

"It's such an odd thing to talk about. There were so many issues that would have had to have been dealt with -- scheduling, the future of the show -- for it to have happened.""

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117936815

Doesnt this confirm that WB did want TW for SR? And that negotiations did take place between them, NOT necessarly with BS?
That means that Welling WAS talking about SR at the TCAs. :)

It confirms that WB wants Welling for Superman, and has for YEARS.

[The Incredible Hulk]

SR wasnt "SR" at the time of the TCA's, it was still McG's project at that point.

The only one Tom ever fessed to talking to was Ratner.

[Asteroid-Man]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/lazycard/batmanandsuperman.jpg

Alex Ross painted that for Wizard 155 (I have the issue)

and then he also painted this for it:
http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/Gallery/alexross-movieposter.jpg

A Joel Silver Production A Wachowski Brothers Film

-J-L-A-

Line 1
"Warner Bros Pictures presents a Wachowski Brothers film, A Joe Silver production in association with A H. Carl Ratner Production"

Line 2
" "Justice League of America" starring Tom Welling, Christian bale, Charisma Carpenter, Jason Behr, Shane West, Jason Lewis Wes Bentley"

Line 3
"With Bill Pexton and Vin Diesel as Despero / Music By James Horner / Costume Design Lisa Tomczeszyn / Co Producers Al Giddings Grant Hill Sharon Mann"

Line 4
"Film Editor Zach Staenberg, A.C.E. Productiond designer (What is this?) Owen Paterson Director of Photography Bill Pope, A.S.C. Special Visual Effects By Manex Visual Effects Based on the DC Comics Characters"

Line 5
"Executive Producer Bruce Berman Produced by Joel SIlver Written and Directed by the Wachowski Brothers"

Line 6
"JULY 2005"

Line 7

(Bottom left corner)
[PG-13 | Parents Strongly Cautioned]
[Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13]

(Bottom Center)
TM & Copyright (c) Warner Bros. Pictures. All characters trademarks of DC Comics. All rights reserved"

(Bottom Right)
|)(| Dolby
Digital

[ZIPBAGS]

Has Robert at IESB said anything since he was talking with Emijay? When I go to his site. All I read are verbal jabs between Welling & Routh fans.

[KalKai]

Not finding it (did I hallucinate seeing that clip?)

Was it this 1?

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9805/tomclip1uy7ba3.jpg

That's all I got though.

[Tomwelling4sups]

Not finding it (did I hallucinate seeing that clip?), but I did run across this:

http://www.superherohype.com/batman/index.php?id=1911

Remember the uproar over that? :D I don't remember if it was ever revealed who did it, but what a way to stir the pot!

classic :D :up:

[zerohour films]

Not finding it (did I hallucinate seeing that clip?), but I did run across this:

http://www.superherohype.com/batman/index.php?id=1911

Remember the uproar over that? :D I don't remember if it was ever revealed who did it, but what a way to stir the pot!

Don't think you're hallucinating. I vaguley remember that as well...but who knows.
If I stumble across it I will let you know.

[DvilDog]

Still nothing. Garbage

[Serene]

Was it this 1?

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9805/tomclip1uy7ba3.jpg

That's all I got though.

Hmm.. that looks like it, but it was MTV interviewing him, not E. That's the same night though. I wish James was around, he'd either have it or know for sure that I'm wrong. Maybe Pat or Trip will remember.

I have a ridiculous number of vid clips saved, but it would take forever to go through them all. I'm not nearly as organized as Pat with my stuff. :O

[Serene]

Don't think you're hallucinating. I vaguley remember that as well...but who knows.
If I stumble across it I will let you know.

Thanks, zero. :)

[bootspark]

SR wasnt "SR" at the time of the TCA's, it was still McG's project at that point.


Actually, it was. BS was announced as director in August. The TCAs were at the end of August.

Welling's name has been metioned for every Superman project since Smallville debuted.

[TheLongestDay]

does anyone remember the Paul Walker for Superman rumours? Gaaaaaahhhhh!

[bootspark]

TODAY, the studios are announcing some of their pre-strike films for 2009. From greenlighting, to casting, to directors. Varitey and HR are reporting on Land of the Lost, Terminator 4, Star Trek, and Thundercats.

WB should be announcing the cast for JLA........ANY DAY NOW! :)

[bootspark]

does anyone remember the Paul Walker for Superman rumours? Gaaaaaahhhhh!

That was NOT a rumor. He was one of the three final contenders for Superman before Ratner was fired. The other two were Branden Fraiser and Matthew Bomer.

[TheLongestDay]

like i said....Gaaaaaahhhhh!

[zerohour films]

Talk about dodging a bullet.

And we think the boards are bad now.
If he had been the man of steel I think SHH would have imploded.

[DvilDog]

So I am assuming that WB have plugged all the leaks they had because we havent heard a word since like 2004?

[TheLongestDay]

i am still hoping for a friday announcement......coooooome ooooonnnnn

[TWistim]

i am still hoping for a friday announcement......coooooome ooooonnnnn

Ditto! :hyper:

[heliorei]

i am still hoping for a friday announcement......coooooome ooooonnnnn


Me too

[Migu-EL]

Who's the poster that said a couple days ago that Welling would be announced in two weeks?:huh:

[Showtime]

Who's the poster that said a couple days ago that Welling would be announced in two weeks?:huh:

Must have been another "insider"...:whatever:

[DvilDog]

Someone by the name of docker said 2 weeks. of course he was like 90% sure ;) oh and btw I can fly and shoot lasers out of my eyes too!

[Migu-EL]

I've only got super-speed and super-strength.:csad:

[Lighthouse]

I've got the super-power to smell BS, and lemme tell ya, this place stinks.

[TheLongestDay]

I've got the super-power to smell BS, and lemme tell ya, this place stinks.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!:woot::woot::woot:

[Serene]

I've got the super-power to smell BS, and lemme tell ya, this place stinks.

That's just Hulk and his bean dip issues. :ninja: .

[triplet]

That's just Hulk and his bean dip issues. :ninja: .

LOL!

:D

[The Incredible Hulk]

Hey! :o :D


BTW looks like JLA starts production on February 11th:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=38244

[Lighthouse]

Must....hear.....casting news......SOON!!!

[triplet]

Hey! :o :D


BTW looks like JLA starts production on February 11th:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=38244

Cool...

Hopefully we'll hear soon about the cast list!

:up:

[ZIPBAGS]

It's been pretty quiet. Not even Sanchez has commented.

[TWistim]

That's just Hulk and his bean dip issues. :ninja: .

LOL! You don't miss a thing. :cwink:

[Asteroid-Man]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/lazycard/batmanandsuperman.jpg

Alex Ross painted that for Wizard 155 (I have the issue)

and then he also painted this for it:
http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/Gallery/alexross-movieposter.jpg

A Joel Silver Production A Wachowski Brothers Film

-J-L-A-

Line 1
"Warner Bros Pictures presents a Wachowski Brothers film, A Joe Silver production in association with A H. Carl Ratner Production"

Line 2
" "Justice League of America" starring Tom Welling, Christian bale, Charisma Carpenter, Jason Behr, Shane West, Jason Lewis Wes Bentley"

Line 3
"With Bill Pexton and Vin Diesel as Despero / Music By James Horner / Costume Design Lisa Tomczeszyn / Co Producers Al Giddings Grant Hill Sharon Mann"

Line 4
"Film Editor Zach Staenberg, A.C.E. Productiond designer (What is this?) Owen Paterson Director of Photography Bill Pope, A.S.C. Special Visual Effects By Manex Visual Effects Based on the DC Comics Characters"

Line 5
"Executive Producer Bruce Berman Produced by Joel SIlver Written and Directed by the Wachowski Brothers"

Line 6
"JULY 2005"

Line 7

(Bottom left corner)
[PG-13 | Parents Strongly Cautioned]
[Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13]

(Bottom Center)
TM & Copyright (c) Warner Bros. Pictures. All characters trademarks of DC Comics. All rights reserved"

(Bottom Right)
|)(| Dolby
Digital



Nobody cares I took the time to do this?

[triplet]

Nobody cares I took the time to do this?

Actually, I do care...

Thanks!

*affectionate hair ruffle*

[Serene]

Nobody cares I took the time to do this?

I meant to thank you earlier for doing that, AM. It's hard to keep up around here lately. Which I guess is a good thing. :up:

Thanks. :D

[zerohour films]

Here's something I whipped up to pass the time...hey it sure beats working! Just to kind of sum up what's been going on for anyone that missed it..and at this rate a glimpse of what's to come if WB doesn't speak up soon.
Hope you enjoy!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/387/twsupesao9.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twsupesao9.jpg)

[TWistim]

Here's something I whipped up to pass the time...hey it sure beats working! Just to kind of sum up what's been going on for anyone that missed it..and at this rate a glimpse of what's to come if WB doesn't speak up soon.
Hope you enjoy!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/387/twsupesao9.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twsupesao9.jpg)


ROFLMAO! :woot:

[The Incredible Hulk]

Here's something I whipped up to pass the time...hey it sure beats working! Just to kind of sum up what's been going on for anyone that missed it..and at this rate a glimpse of what's to come if WB doesn't speak up soon.
Hope you enjoy!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/387/twsupesao9.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twsupesao9.jpg)

LOL I love the big "WTF" sign :D

[Serene]

Here's something I whipped up to pass the time...hey it sure beats working! Just to kind of sum up what's been going on for anyone that missed it..and at this rate a glimpse of what's to come if WB doesn't speak up soon.
Hope you enjoy!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/387/twsupesao9.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twsupesao9.jpg)

LMAO!

Standing "O". :up:

[Prison Mike]

Here's something I whipped up to pass the time...hey it sure beats working! Just to kind of sum up what's been going on for anyone that missed it..and at this rate a glimpse of what's to come if WB doesn't speak up soon.
Hope you enjoy!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/387/twsupesao9.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twsupesao9.jpg)

LOL! Loved it. "AG-WB" was great!

[zerohour films]

Thanks everybody.
God knows with all of the back and forth and rumors we need some humor right now to stay sane. That or just stay as far away from the internet as possible....no humor works, I'll stick with humor.

[avidreader]

Here's something I whipped up to pass the time...hey it sure beats working! Just to kind of sum up what's been going on for anyone that missed it..and at this rate a glimpse of what's to come if WB doesn't speak up soon.
Hope you enjoy!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/387/twsupesao9.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twsupesao9.jpg)


That was really funny! :D AG-WB. :up:

Was that you sitting at your desk?

[triplet]

Here's something I whipped up to pass the time...hey it sure beats working! Just to kind of sum up what's been going on for anyone that missed it..and at this rate a glimpse of what's to come if WB doesn't speak up soon.
Hope you enjoy!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/387/twsupesao9.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twsupesao9.jpg)

LOL!

Priceless!

:D

[bootspark]

Update from infamous_emijayne at Countingdown.com

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3996605&folder=0

"Because I've started having my own doubts, I wanted to make sure I was right about what an NDA does so I contacted 5 different attorneys that specialize in the entertainment industry. I asked them hypothetically what someone would say if they were under an NDA and asked direct questions and they confirmed the person would have to decline comment or completely deny all knowledge of the subject depending on how the NDA was written. If you don't believe me, pick up a phone book and call any attorney in the business and do the same thing.

Now, this doesn't mean Gough isn't telling the truth and I will admit that, but it also means that my sources and Robert's at IESB may be right about Welling if an NDA is in fact in place. And as many have pointed out, all info stopped dead at the same time after some oddly coincidental things.

Anyway, I will be going on a much needed 2 week vacation starting Saturday so hopefully we will get some news before then. I know WB is still preparing a press release but only God knows how long they will drag it out. I am definitely as annoyed as everyone else and just want it to end. Even if that means Welling is out. I just want WB to step up and let us know what the hell is going on."

[triplet]

Update from infamous_emijayne at Countingdown.com

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3996605&folder=0

Interesting...

Basically confirms what everyone has said about the reasons Gough might have for lying...

I hope we hear soon about casting.

*crosses fingers*

[Whiteflag]

Here's something I whipped up to pass the time...hey it sure beats working! Just to kind of sum up what's been going on for anyone that missed it..and at this rate a glimpse of what's to come if WB doesn't speak up soon.
Hope you enjoy!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/387/twsupesao9.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twsupesao9.jpg)

LOL! Very funny! :woot:

[TWistim]

Update from infamous_emijayne at Countingdown.com

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3996605&folder=0


Thanks for the update, bootspark.

[Whiteflag]

Just got thru catching up on 2+ days of posts and it seems we're still at square one! My computer crashed on Sat. and I have been in withdrawal mode waiting to get back online. (I just knew the big announcement would come and I'd miss it.) Anyway, I don't have any inside info and I'm admittedly biased but in my heart of hearts I just really think Tom Welling is going to be Superman in JLA. Noone else makes any sense to me given all that we know.

1. Tom embodies the part. He has the look, the talent, the experience and noone deserves it more.

2. Superman Returns was a disappointment. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if that was not a fact. Yeah, it made its money back but it did not break box office records and did not inspire a new generation of fans which was the plan. It did however split the already-existig fan base.

3. WB still wants a piece of the comic/movie world pie. And now they want vindication for the misstep they made.

4. Welling was/is the fan favorite overall to portray this beloved character. He was considered last time but in the end they wanted their cake (a successful TV show) and to eat it too (a successful movie franchise). Not wanting to sacrifice their #1 show they took a chance and tried to have both.

5. This time around the TV show has already passed the 100th episode mark and is gearing down to the final moment when Clark becomes Superman to the world. It is actually at a point to be used as the perfect lead in/promotion vehicle for the movie.

6. This movie is a great opportunity for Tom. If it is successful it opens all kinds of doors for him. He is already typecast as Superman. This doesn't mean he can't break out of that but in order to do it he has to be given the chance and offered roles to play. The real problem is he may be typecast as a tv actor if he doesn't get a big break soon. This movie moves him into a whole new category.

7. If WB wants Tom they can make it happen. The bottomline in Hollywood is always money. This movie is their big money maker for summer 2009. They already have a great script and a reputable director. Now they have to get the casting right and the pieces will all fall into place.


I'll be glad when this wait is over.
And if my sheer force of will could have anything to do with it we'd be celebrating right now! :super:

Great post! :up: :heart:

[TWistim]

Great post! :up: :heart:

Thanks! :heart:

[Showtime]

Interesting...

Basically confirms what everyone has said about the reasons Gough might have for lying...

I hope we hear soon about casting.

*crosses fingers*

Why is that news, didn't we all know what an NDA consisted of? That doesn't explain why Gough flipped out. He could have just said, "No Comment" or "It's not happening."

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Maybe he flipped out because it is happening & he hates to be reminded of it :huh:

[triplet]

Why is that news, didn't we all know what an NDA consisted of? That doesn't explain why Gough flipped out. He could have just said, "No Comment" or "It's not happening."

Not sure...

:confused:

Maybe he flipped out because it is happening & he hates to be reminded of it :huh:

LOL!

What Cab said!

:D :up:

I bet he's just a spoiled-rotten only-child who never learned to share...

;)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

As for why he is not saying "no comment" or just ignoring the qeustion. If he said that then that will just get people talking even more & stuff. Him being an ******* makes people go what the ****.

[Showtime]

Maybe he flipped out because it is happening & he hates to be reminded of it :huh:

Just as possible as him flipping out because it isn't happening and he is sick of hearing it I guess.

[Showtime]

As for why he is not saying "no comment" or just ignoring the qeustion. If he said that then that will just get people talking even more & stuff. Him being an ******* makes people go what the ****.

Or not.

[AgentPat]

Maybe he flipped out because it is happening & he hates to be reminded of it :huh:Nah. He flipped out because he's been painting as the Devil's Spawn. People have been accusing HIM as being the impediment to any negotiations that may or may not be going on between Welling and Warners. Imagine for a moment what people will say IF some other actor is announced in the role? Everybody will assume it was Gough's fault, that it was HE who stopped the presses and kept Welling from being Superman in JL. The SV producers take a HELL of a lot of heat as it is; can you imagine the unadulterated vitriol that will spew forth onto Gough's head if it doesn't happen? True or not, Gough will take the blame.

Now reference his last sentence in his vehement denial:

So, there you have it from the horse's mouth--or ass--given some of the message board postings I've seen about myself!Make sense now? ;)



Hulk, so Feb 11th is the date, huh? That's a Monday. Anybody know when SV has their production hiatus? NOT the air break when they run a month of reruns, but the actual break in production.

Asteroid-Man, thanks for that transcription. I've been bouncing around the boards and haven't really been back to this thread. Shocking, I know. LOL

Zerohour films, that was hysterical man. Totally made me laugh. Good job!

TWistim, great list! You summed it up perfectly.

Did I miss anybody? :O

[zerohour films]

That was really funny! :D AG-WB. :up:

Was that you sitting at your desk?


thanks, no that's just some random picture I found on Google.

[Showtime]

Nah. He flipped out because he's been painting as the Devil's Spawn. People have been accusing HIM as being the impediment to any negotiations that may or may not be going on between Welling and Warners. Imagine for a moment what people will say IF some other actor is announced in the role? Everybody will assume it was Gough's fault, that it was HE who stopped the presses and kept Welling from being Superman in JL. The SV producers take a HELL of a lot of heat as it is; can you imagine the unadulterated vitriol that will spew forth onto Gough's head if it doesn't happen? True or not, Gough will take the blame.


Well said Patty.

[TWistim]

Why is that news, didn't we all know what an NDA consisted of? That doesn't explain why Gough flipped out. He could have just said, "No Comment" or "It's not happening."


I didn't have a clue what an NDA consisted of although I could have ventured a pretty decent guess.

As to why he flipped out, I would say he's either a "sorry loser" and a "hothead" or the whole thing was exaggerated. The fact that he does seem to have overresponded makes me feel even more confident that this thing is a go and the rumors of his interference were the holdup.

[avidreader]

Did I miss anybody? :O

You missed me. :csad: But then again, I didnt say anything. :cwink:

thanks, no that's just some random picture I found on Google.

LOL! It could have been you, at your desk working on your comic strip. :woot:

[AgentPat]

Well said Patty.Thanks, Show. It makes sense to me. Gough is just covering his ass. Welling could have *absolutely* nothing to do with JL, but that won't stop people from believing it. So if and when somebody else is cast, who gets thrown under the bus? Al Gough. If you were him, wouldn't YOU be denying seven different ways till Sunday that any of this was true? He's pissed. Wicked pissed. And in a way I guess... I don't blame him.

And like Hulk has said in the past, IF any of it IS true, IF Welling IS cast, people won't give two poops about Gough's denial after the fact. We'll all be drunk and celebrating. People will laugh at Gough, not set his car on fire - with him in it. So Gough is just covering his ass, just in case.

I'll have you know I came up with this theory while pulling weeds in my garden today. Ironic, huh? LOL ;)

[DvilDog]

doing the normal mundane tasks always sparks inspiration ya know:)

[TWistim]

Nah. He flipped out because he's been painting as the Devil's Spawn. People have been accusing HIM as being the impediment to any negotiations that may or may not be going on between Welling and Warners. Imagine for a moment what people will say IF some other actor is announced in the role? Everybody will assume it was Gough's fault, that it was HE who stopped the presses and kept Welling from being Superman in JL. The SV producers take a HELL of a lot of heat as it is; can you imagine the unadulterated vitriol that will spew forth onto Gough's head if it doesn't happen? True or not, Gough will take the blame.

Now reference his last sentence in his vehement denial:

Make sense now? ;)

Yeah, I actually kinda feel sorry for him now! NOT!!! :cwink:


TWistim, great list! You summed it up perfectly.



Thanks, Pat. :yay:

[DvilDog]

I talked to Tom today with my mind powers. And he said the verdict is still out, but you dont have to worry about Gough for a while because he said he broke his arm off and beat him with it. So all in all i think there was really good progress made today

[Showtime]

Thanks, Show. It makes sense to me. Gough is just covering his ass. Welling could have *absolutely* nothing to do with JL, but that won't stop people from believing it. So if and when somebody else is cast, who gets thrown under the bus? Al Gough. If you were him, wouldn't YOU be denying seven different ways till Sunday that any of this was true? He's pissed. Wicked pissed. And in a way I guess... I don't blame him.

And like Hulk has said in the past, IF any of it IS true, IF Welling IS cast, people won't give two poops about Gough's denial after the fact. We'll all be drunk and celebrating. People will laugh at Gough, not set his car on fire - with him in it. So Gough is just covering his ass, just in case.

I'll have you know I came up with this theory while pulling weeds in my garden today. Ironic, huh? LOL ;)

I think you're right, I think Al Gough is covering his tracks either way. I just like that you used WICKED.

[Showtime]

I didn't have a clue what an NDA consisted of although I could have ventured a pretty decent guess.

As to why he flipped out, I would say he's either a "sorry loser" and a "hothead" or the whole thing was exaggerated. The fact that he does seem to have overresponded makes me feel even more confident that this thing is a go and the rumors of his interference were the holdup.

It is tough to read into either way, anything is possible.

[ZIPBAGS]

Funny thing about Emijay's post. She will be away for 2 weeks this Saturday. So if it is announced and Tom is not cast. She will avoid hearing from her detractors for 2 weeks. :)

I would really just like to know if Tom is really even up for the role. Or is everything just fanboy(girl) hope.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

We have just about two weeks left of October. It makes me wonder if shes bolting so that she can have a good time before all hell breaks loose if things are said & done before the end of October :o

[Showtime]

Or she doesn't want to hear it when her info turns out to be false...

[mellyM]

Or she doesn't want to hear it when her info turns out to be false...

Or she has a life.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Either way what ever happens if Tom is in it or not there will be *****ing.

[Tomwelling4sups]

*tries to wait patiently*

[Prison Mike]

waiting for the announcement has given me ulcers.

[Tomwelling4sups]

Or she has a life.

quoted for truth :up:

[The Incredible Hulk]

frankly I've grown a bit tired of the whole "is he? or isn't he?" thing. It was somewhat fun after the initial IESB stuff but its become tiresome either way. IESB has been pretty spot on in the past with most of their stuff but I'm starting to have doubts about the latest round of Tom negotiations that were allegedly going down last week, I think Sanchez may be guilty of playing to the crowd a bit too much. His message forum EXPLODED after the Welling news and I can see him wanting to keep people talking.

As for emijayne, who really knows? I've been lurking over there for a while and she does seem to have credibility with the longtime posters there for scooping previous things but I think she may be a bit overwhelmed by all of the attention she's gotten recently both positive and negative. I was recently sent a link to some previous remarks she had made a year or so ago that I found outright disgusting, so the shine has come off her a bit IMO.

Whomever it's going to be, let's just have it already. WB has been making announcements about 2009 movies like T4 this week so lets hope JLA isnt far behind. The thing that really scares me is if this follows the new Star Trek film and how their "Kirk" isnt even known a month before filming. Can you imagine how hairy this place is going to be if its January and we still don't know who Supes is going to be? :eek:

Whomever it finally is, good for them. If it's Tom than fantastic I'm there 10 times as long as its halfway decent. If its Routh, I wont be as excited, but even though I like to tease about the guy to our cousins over yonder I've long since gotten over that and dont really have the energy that some do to debate it much. Count me in for one viewing. If its a new guy, than may God have mercy on his poor soul because he immediately becomes the most nit-picked actor in Hollywood.

[Showtime]

Or she has a life.

Just as much as any of us on these boards I guess...

[Showtime]

As for emijayne, who really knows? I've been lurking over there for a while and she does seem to have credibility with the longtime posters there for scooping previous things but I think she may be a bit overwhelmed by all of the attention she's gotten recently both positive and negative. I was recently sent a link to some previous remarks she had made a year or so ago that I found outright disgusting, so the shine has come off her a bit IMO.


Yeah she's had a checkered past which I was well aware of previously, that is why I am not so eager to sell my soul to her as some of the posters here, IESB, and of course Countingdown, have done. To each his own, or something like that.

[KBX]

Yeah she's had a checkered past which I was well aware of previously, that is why I am not so eager to sell my soul to her as some of the posters here, IESB, and of course Countingdown, have done. To each his own, or something like that.

waiting for the announcement has given me ulcers.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

[Serene]

Whomever it finally is, good for them. If it's Tom than fantastic I'm there 10 times as long as its halfway decent. If its Routh, I wont be as excited, but even though I like to tease about the guy to our cousins over yonder I've long since gotten over that and dont really have the energy that some do to debate it much. Count me in for one viewing. If its a new guy, than may God have mercy on his poor soul because he immediately becomes the most nit-picked actor in Hollywood.

QfT. :up:

[AgentPat]

frankly I've grown a bit tired of the whole "is he? or isn't he?" thing.Same here. I just posted on IESB for the first time in a few days. I haven't really been paying attention over there because it's a complete clusterbleep of arguing fanboys. I don't need that; I've got that here. Don't need to go there for it too, y'know? LOL

...I think Sanchez may be guilty of playing to the crowd a bit too much. His message forum EXPLODED after the Welling news and I can see him wanting to keep people talking.I noticed that. Also noticed they had a board "update" and now there's more ads per page and less posts. Somebody said they didn't think Sanchez would approve of the arguing on his board. Are you kidding? Each refresh is worth another two cents.

As for emijayne, who really knows? I've been lurking over there for a while and she does seem to have credibility with the longtime posters there for scooping previous things but I think she may be a bit overwhelmed by all of the attention she's gotten recently both positive and negative.Agreed. I bet she's been swamped with PMs.

I was recently sent a link to some previous remarks she had made a year or so ago that I found outright disgusting, so the shine has come off her a bit IMO.Oh dear, what did she say? PM me dude.

Whomever it's going to be, let's just have it already.While I couldn't agree with you more, I think Warners may be enjoying the buzz.

The thing that really scares me is if this follows the new Star Trek film and how their "Kirk" isnt even known a month before filming. Can you imagine how hairy this place is going to be if its January and we still don't know who Supes is going to be? :eek:That would be hysterical, in a really sad sort of way, 'cause you know how people can be.

So wait... the Star Trek film starts shooting in a month, and they haven't announced who will be playing Kirk? Oh wow! I can't believe I'm missing that. Somebody post it here (Talon thread) when it happens. I'd love to know who the knew sap is gonna be.

Whomever it finally is, good for them. If it's Tom than fantastic I'm there 10 times as long as its halfway decent.If Welling is cast, is it wrong to say that I'd be there 10 times even if it's not decent? Tom Welling AS Superman in a live action feature film? Oh c'mon! I don't care if they cast Madonna as Wonder Woman, I'm there. LOL (Hyperbole for humor)

If its Routh, I wont be as excited, but even though I like to tease about the guy to our cousins over yonder I've long since gotten over that and dont really have the energy that some do to debate it much. Count me in for one viewing.I'll catch it when it comes to cable in that situation. He's my deal breaker. Sorry. Just is.

If its a new guy, than may God have mercy on his poor soul because he immediately becomes the most nit-picked actor in Hollywood.Jeeze, you got that right. It makes me laugh that Jett was trying to perpetrate the rumor that actors were shying away from Batman because they didn't want to step on Bale's toes. Meh. I think that's utter nonsense. And while there really isn't any toes to step on in accepting the Superman role, the fanship is so divided on who they do want that *anybody* is gonna catch hell, no matter what.



PS: Hey Showtime, how come you don't want people knowing that's you posting there? Other than Sanchez and a few drive bys, they're mostly just a bunch of youngish fanboys. They're opinionated, but they seem to be pretty harmless. No? :huh:

[Showtime]

PS: Hey Showtime, how come you don't want people knowing that's you posting there? Other than Sanchez and a few drive bys, they're mostly just a bunch of youngish fanboys. They're opinionated, but they seem to be pretty harmless. No? :huh:

Posting where? :ninja:

[AgentPat]

Posting where? :ninja:IESB.

[Showtime]

IESB.

I wasn't hiding it, I was just having fun with one of the posters there.

[AgentPat]

I wasn't hiding it, I was just having fun with one of the posters there.LOL! No prob. That's cool. Like I said, I've been avoiding posting there myself. It's gotten rather... heated. I'm gonna wait till Sanchez adds something new 'cause there really is no reason to gunk up the boards there. Well, none that I see, anyway. I think Warners has eyes everywhere. It's not like IESB is any more exposed than here or other places.

Gosh, I wish this was over soon. :(

[Showtime]

LOL! No prob. That's cool. Like I said, I've been avoiding posting there myself. It's gotten rather... heated. I'm gonna wait till Sanchez adds something new 'cause there really is no reason to gunk up the boards there. Well, none that I see, anyway. I think Warners has eyes everywhere. It's not like IESB is any more exposed than here or other places.

Gosh, I wish this was over soon. :(

I don't mind posting there, problem is my membership has been growing on several sites. Luckily my day job and "night" job allow for me to post, not sure whether that is good or bad. I don't want to being a posting addict, although I think I already am.

[unknowndarkness]

I think you're right, I think Al Gough is covering his tracks either way.



Are you still going to stick with your original "No Tights, No Flights" policy, considering how far we've come with the mythology and the fact that Supergirl [aka Kara, played by Laura Vandervoort] will be flying? — Salchan

Al Gough: Yes, we are sticking with that policy as far as Clark is concerned. (Obviously Bizarro can fly as well as Kara.) But following up on what Chloe said about his lack of flying in the season premiere ("Clark, you need to get on that"), Kara will be giving him "flying lessons" later in the season. Although with Clark, they end up being more like "falling lessons."


Since there is going to be a JLA movie and [Superman Returns'] Brandon Routh and [Batman Begins'] Christian Bale are not going to be in it, is there any chance that Tom Welling and the rest of the gang from Smallville's own Justice League could be featured in the roles? — cooper2000

Al Gough: That, unfortunately, isn't how Hollywood works. You will see a brand-spanking-new group of actors donning the tights for that film. I heard it is under the direction of George (Mad Max) Miller, so I am personally very excited to see it.



Source: http://www.tvguide.com/news/smallville-tom-welling/071011-01

[Showtime]

I just saw that on IESB.

Who was the first to bring up that Gough was the problem, that is what I want to know. Was it Rob at IESB or was it a poster from some forum?

[Mike22]

Source: http://www.tvguide.com/news/smallville-tom-welling/071011-01

Thing is, Gough has been rumored to have been the problem in this Welling as superman thing for a good amount of time the negotiations went down.
Even when we were hearing news from both Sanchez and Emijayne that Welling was under negotiations, Gough openly denied it. He COULD very well be right, but he could also just be that he`s covering his ass, like mentioned earlier by some of the posters here.

One thing about Gough though, I don`t have the slightest bit of trust in the guy, he has a bad tendency to lie.

[zerohour films]

Source: http://www.tvguide.com/news/smallville-tom-welling/071011-01


Damn. Not what I was hoping to wake up to this morning.:wow:

Guess things on the scooper (IESB and CD) front are going to stay quiet until the cast is officially announced after that little blurb.
I mean it's a quote in TV guide!

Oh well....there is always the hope that this is all some strange dream.

I don't see them using Brandon, especially with all of the TW talk going on and the WB not making any effort to squash it if they were using BR.

But I really don't see a third @@#$$@* actor donning the tights in so many years. That's would be ridiculous.

[Serene]

Bummer.

They just need to END this already. :(

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Different change of pace from Gough. But do we know how new this interview is ? They could have interviewed him a long while ago & it just now gets published. Then again Gough could have just used different & actual polite words since it was a TV Guide interview & not some random phone call from a web site scooper.

[TheLongestDay]

Damn. Not what I was hoping to wake up to this morning.:wow:

Guess things on the scooper (IESB and CD) front are going to stay quiet until the cast is officially announced after that little blurb.
I mean it's a quote in TV guide!

Oh well....there is always the hope that this is all some strange dream.

I don't see them using Brandon, especially with all of the TW talk going on and the WB not making any effort to squash it if they were using BR.

But I really don't see a third @@#$$@* actor donning the tights in so many years. That's would be ridiculous.

Exactly!

I want Welling or Routh or no Superman atall

Unfortunately it looks like another actor is what we are getting:csad:

[The Incredible Hulk]

perhaps I'm missing something, but why does Gough's latest denial carry more wieght than the other 3?

[rumpuso]

perhaps I'm missing something, but why does Gough's latest denial carry more wieght than the other 3?

My guess is because it's in TV Guide rather than some nameless website.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If you ask me with Emijay heading out of town for two weeks & she will more then likely not come back online until sometime after November 1st & with her being the first original person to break out the Tom Welling news Tom Welling fans should prepare to be disappointed because it does seem like something will be announced before the end of October & with Emijay bolting like I said Tom Welling fans should be prepared to be disappointed.

[zerohour films]

perhaps I'm missing something, but why does Gough's latest denial carry more wieght than the other 3?


yeah, I'm guessing because of the source it feels like it's more real I guess.

[The Incredible Hulk]

My guess is because it's in TV Guide rather than some nameless website.

yeah I guess but its not like anyone ever doubted that Gough said those things, the whole issue was if what he was saying was true...

[ZIPBAGS]

Do people from Warner (of any possible importance) actually read this or the other boards (IESB, etc)?

[TheLongestDay]

lets just face it...we are going to get stiffed...:(

[rumpuso]

yeah I guess but its not like anyone ever doubted that Gough said those things, the whole issue was if what he was saying was true...

I know, and if Gough honestly is bound by that legal agreement people are talking about, it won't matter where he denies that Tom was in contention for Superman ... on TV Guide or on the web. If he has to deny, he's probably legally bound to no matter where he's interviewed.

The thing that feels like deja vu here is that the fans caught wind of these talks and ran with it, just like back in 2004. If nothing else comes of this, at least the WB realizes that Tom is still a huge fan favorite. Sucks to be on this roller coaster again however. It's a fun ride up, but if this turns out to be like 2004, the ride down was a big kick in the pants.

[KalKai]

Do people from Warner (of any possible importance) actually read this or the other boards (IESB, etc)?

Why would they do that? They know what they want.. I presume lol.

[ZIPBAGS]

If I was in charge of a studio. I would certainly keep an eye on what the fans were saying. Besides creating buzz. Its a good way to see how the fans think of story ideas and casting. Not that I would base every decision on what fans on a forum think. But, if you can get the core fans behind it. They are the ones who see the movie multiple times. Look at Superman Returns. It split the Supes fan base. And didn't do as well as it could have. I saw it once. If I would have liked it (hating the story plots) I would have seen in 2 or 3 times.

[DvilDog]

3 interviews from.Gough 3 denials. Just come out with the damn cast list already. The only good thing about Superman today is that smallville comes on tonight. Sorry if I don't get Tom in jla then I will be waiting until I can bootleg it or something. I like routh really I do but honestly what is wb thinking if they don't cast either. I don't want another supes. 2 is more than enough and tom would be plenty (sorry Brandon) if they would just make a good decision

[RakuMon]

Not for nothin', but that question was more of a "Is JLA going to be based on SV's League" than a "Is Tom going to be Superman?"

I mean, it's still a denial, but it's more denying the movie's League being related to SV's League than anything else.

Or am I just grasping at straws here? :O

[Showtime]

Why would they do that? They know what they want.. I presume lol.

There are and have been individuals affliated with studios on these boards along with various screenwriters and directors. Most of the time studios assign interns to check out the boards and see if they can put their finger on the pulse of the fans. I can tell you that somebody from WB was in the Superman Forums when WB liking the script first surfaced on The Hype.

[AgentPat]

For a guy who claimed discussion of JL hadn't come up once in past conversation, Gough sure seems pretty confident on a few details: "You will see a brand-spanking-new group of actors donning the tights for that film."

That a fact? That right there speaks volumes, because even the trade papers couldn't nail down what was going on with casting. All anybody has said so far is that various "sources" say they doubt Bale or Routh would be involved.

And if by "Hollywood doesn't work like that" Gough means, "Hollywood isn't in the habit of taking it up the ying yang by dipsquat tv show producers," then yes, yes, I agree. They'd rather move on.

Between the JL comments and Gough's other statements about SV, he better get in the habit of watching over his shoulder and avoid dark alleys at night. I... I... just don't know where to begin. :cmad:

[Whiteflag]

I HATE AG! That's all I've got to say. :cmad:

[AgentPat]

I HATE AG! That's all I've got to say. :cmad:Join the club. That whole interview has me seething...

[Zorex]

I think Al just needs a nice, big glass of STFU. I'm tired of every insider's conflicting info...I'm generally just tired of all this lack of concrete information (woo, we have a........start date?), but Al...Al, darling, you're getting most tiresome.

[AgentPat]

I think Al just needs a nice, big glass of STFU. I'm tired of every insider's conflicting info...I'm generally just tired of all this lack of concrete information (woo, we have a........start date?), but Al...Al, darling, you're getting most tiresome.http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thumbsup.gif

[zerohour films]

For a guy who claimed discussion of JL hadn't come up once in past conversation, Gough sure seems pretty confident on a few details: "You will see a brand-spanking-new group of actors donning the tights for that film."

That a fact? That right there speaks volumes, because even the trade papers couldn't nail down what was going on with casting. All anybody has said so far is that various "sources" say they doubt Bale or Routh would be involved.

And if by "Hollywood doesn't work like that" Gough means, "Hollywood isn't in the habit of taking it up the ying yang by dipsquat tv show producers," then yes, yes, I agree. They'd rather move on.

Between the JL comments and Gough's other statements about SV, he better get in the habit of watching over his shoulder and avoid dark alleys at night. I... I... just don't know where to begin. :cmad:

Good point and nice positive spin on his interview.

And agreed...Gough better get his own Pope mobile to tool around Vancouver in...:cmad:

[musclesforsupes]

Gough needs to get Falcored, Randored, and Arfoed all at once!:cmad:

[Superman_]

You guys keep saying Gough this and that but do you know for sure that Welling wanted the role? I mean I think you should wait on putting blame on a person until the whole story comes out.

[zerohour films]

You guys keep saying Gough this and that but do you know for sure that Welling wanted the role? I mean I think you should wait on putting blame on a person until the whole story comes out.


True.
He has become the scape goat for this whole mess. It very well could be a number of things including TW not wanting the part.
But hey this is an internet message board..basically a village ready to lynch Frankenstein's monster just because. We don't need rational thought or reasoning. We need torches--stat!!

[Captain_BluTac]

u may want torches i want a pitchfork :hyper:

[musclesforsupes]

It took yours truely to get a new update from Sanchez :woot:


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Re:Justice league and man of steel updates 43 Minutes ago Karma: 0 musclesforsupes wrote:
Okay here is what I believe is happening

1. Welling has been cast

2. WB has notifed all the "popular" internet movie sites, ie SHH, SMHP, Moviehole, Chud, IESB, Dark Horizons, Blue Tights that they cannot talk about the casting of Welling...YET

3. Gough is pissed and wants to throw people off the trail.

4. Welling is legally obligated not to say anything as well.




I told him Falcor is watching him lol:woot:




Oh and ARFO!





WB has not contacted me or any other site, we're just idling right now.

Waiting and waiting, FYI, there was some misinformation that the studio was releasing early on. Don't know what exactly but there was.

[Pickle-El]

And there he goes....

[zerohour films]

misinformation released early on???!!???

you mean for 2 months we all thought Welling had a chance and the WB stayed quiet about it and didn't try to correct us or put out a statement to set things straight and just let us work ourselves up into a frenzy?

.....wait a minute...Could it be that our opinion doesn't mean as much to the studio as we thought....naaahh! :cwink: That's just crazy talk.

[Lighthouse]

I doubt the misinformation was about Welling. I can see them releasing misinformation about the script or some other aspect, but to release misinformation that would cause headaches for Gough and Welling? I don't think so.

[Superman_]

I doubt the misinformation was about Welling. I can see them releasing misinformation about the script or some other aspect, but to release misinformation that would cause headaches for Gough and Welling? I don't think so.I agree I think the misinformation is more about the script or the CGI. They (WB) never said anything about casting Welling that was IESB and fan rumors. What could be misinformation though is Routh and Bales involvement or many other things.

[avidreader]

It took yours truely to get a new update from Sanchez :woot:


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Re:Justice league and man of steel updates 43 Minutes ago Karma: 0 musclesforsupes wrote:
Okay here is what I believe is happening

1. Welling has been cast

2. WB has notifed all the "popular" internet movie sites, ie SHH, SMHP, Moviehole, Chud, IESB, Dark Horizons, Blue Tights that they cannot talk about the casting of Welling...YET

3. Gough is pissed and wants to throw people off the trail.

4. Welling is legally obligated not to say anything as well.




I told him Falcor is watching him lol:woot:




Oh and ARFO!





WB has not contacted me or any other site, we're just idling right now.

Waiting and waiting, FYI, there was some misinformation that the studio was releasing early on. Don't know what exactly but there was.

To believe, or not to believe. :ninja:

[The Incredible Hulk]

I doubt the misinformation was about Welling. I can see them releasing misinformation about the script or some other aspect, but to release misinformation that would cause headaches for Gough and Welling? I don't think so.


I doubt it as well considering just last week Sanchez said on the boards that Welling was still talking to WB. then again as I said earlier in this thread, he may have been guilty of playing to his audience

[OobeDoobBenubi]

To believe, or not to believe. :ninja:

I will believe it when Robert himself posts that.

[avidreader]

I will believe it when Robert himself posts that.

By the looks of Muscles post, Robert did post that. Didnt he??

[DvilDog]

I choose to believe Robert but then again he said this is what BELIEVE is happening

[Superman_]

By the looks of Muscles post, Robert did post that. Didnt he??Yes he did check the IESB boards.

[Superman_]

On a side note what do you think about the new Captain America?

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z139/darthphere_stuff/1582new_storyimage2051160_full.jpg

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[KalKai]

I will believe it when Robert himself posts that.

The bold part is by Rob.

[Lighthouse]

On a side note what do you think about the new

Two things.

1. I think its terrible and it looks like Ross just ripped off his own Spider-Man movie costume he designed. Look at it and it's almost exactly the same.

2. Wrong forum.

[Superman_]

Two things.

1. I think its terrible and it looks like Ross just ripped off his own Spider-Man movie costume he designed. Look at it and it's almost exactly the same.

2. Wrong forum.Yea I know I just wanted to see what the SV fans thought and since most don't go out side this forum then I just thought I'd bring it up. But yea it does look like a mix between the Spidey Outfit and McG's outfit for his Superman.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

By the looks of Muscles post, Robert did post that. Didnt he??

No he did not. I looked at IESB just now that post was muscles posting at IESB what HE thought was happening. Robert said none of that. Robert replied to that & basically said he was waiting like everyone else. Robert said nothing about Welling being 100 % cast. That was all muscles.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&id=1797&catid=20&limit=6&limitstart=654

& since Robert is still not saying anything is for sure except the fact that Tom Welling was still talking to the WB last week I would rather believe Robert then muscles since Robert is a bit more believable then muscles but thats just me

[KalKai]

Robert:

Lets be very clear about what has happened. At first news was very easy to get on Justice League, we nailed the fact that the studio wanted it for 2009, that it would have a early 2008 start date (pre-strike), which characters were in the film, parts of the storyline including the death of one of the heroes, i'm sure by now everyone know who was going to die, right?

Even the early reports that WB was looking at mo-cap, which Variety confirmed.

even when I confronted David Slade about his involvement on JL, he confirmed it, we didn't report on Slade early because we were asked not to but this was all info from my sources, all 100% right regardless what a couple haters keep on saying.

Tom Welling was also given to me by the same source which I confirmed with multiple people at WB.

Even Clint Morris over at Moviehole, who is producing a handful of movies, heard rumblings about Tom. The Gough/Millar thing came from the same camp, was it BS? I find it very unlikely.

Regarding Countingdown.com's source, I have talked to her and I am pretty confident that her sources are solid.

What is going on right now? I don't know, we have been super busy on tons of other films that we have to report on. That whole IndyGate photo thing took up plenty of my free time last week plus the visit to the Indy set and Amblin offices to talk to Spielberg was very hectic.

I am trying very hard to find things out right now but I am running into a dead end.

Things might change soon and hopefully someone cracks. I am planning on taking out a few WB friends next week for drinks and if nothing has been confirmed or announced I will try to pry something from them at that time.

like I mentioned last week, I have been told my multiple WB contacts that I have pissed off a few execs, oh well, its my job to try to get news.

WB was really pissed off at us, Chud and a few others earlier in the year because between us and a few sites we had broken the entire cast of Watchmen and they were planning this big thing over at Comic Con.

I think that they are trying to avoid that all over again.

We will keep digging.

[TheGraphicsGuy]

I think it's quite cool, if there is a new movie, that should be the suit...

[RakuMon]

Yea I know I just wanted to see what the SV fans thought and since most don't go out side this forum then I just thought I'd bring it up. But yea it does look like a mix between the Spidey Outfit and McG's outfit for his Superman.

That's what "The Talon" is for.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=147571

[AgentPat]

Robert:

Lets be very clear about what has happened. At first news was very easy to get on Justice League, we nailed the fact that the studio wanted it for 2009, that it would have a early 2008 start date (pre-strike), which characters were in the film, parts of the storyline including the death of one of the heroes, i'm sure by now everyone know who was going to die, right?

Even the early reports that WB was looking at mo-cap, which Variety confirmed.

even when I confronted David Slade about his involvement on JL, he confirmed it, we didn't report on Slade early because we were asked not to but this was all info from my sources, all 100% right regardless what a couple haters keep on saying.

Tom Welling was also given to me by the same source which I confirmed with multiple people at WB.

Even Clint Morris over at Moviehole, who is producing a handful of movies, heard rumblings about Tom. The Gough/Millar thing came from the same camp, was it BS? I find it very unlikely.

Regarding Countingdown.com's source, I have talked to her and I am pretty confident that her sources are solid.

What is going on right now? I don't know, we have been super busy on tons of other films that we have to report on. That whole IndyGate photo thing took up plenty of my free time last week plus the visit to the Indy set and Amblin offices to talk to Spielberg was very hectic.

I am trying very hard to find things out right now but I am running into a dead end.

Things might change soon and hopefully someone cracks. I am planning on taking out a few WB friends next week for drinks and if nothing has been confirmed or announced I will try to pry something from them at that time.

like I mentioned last week, I have been told my multiple WB contacts that I have pissed off a few execs, oh well, its my job to try to get news.

WB was really pissed off at us, Chud and a few others earlier in the year because between us and a few sites we had broken the entire cast of Watchmen and they were planning this big thing over at Comic Con.

I think that they are trying to avoid that all over again.

We will keep digging.http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/banghead6.gif



Y'know, they could avoid ALL of this nonsense by just freakin' announcing the g'damn cast. But maybe that's too easy? I dunno.

[Superman_]

I know that I have 309 post in the Talon I just felt like asking it here.

[Showtime]

I thought Captain America was dead?

WB obviously has spoken to the right people to keep whatever is happening with this movie quiet. Whether they found the leaks and plugged them or have spoken with the webmasters on sites like IESB, remains to be seen.

My opinion is that WB is planning a big release of this news and is goi to Hype it up, most likely a press release given to all sites to release when they deem it time.

I think WB got ticked off at Rob for going on live television and announcing that Welling was going to be Superman in JLA while he was still in negotiations, that set of a chain reaction on all the major movie sites reporting Welling as Superman. The problem is the negtiations fell through, and it is also possible this was going on behind Gough's back, and once he heard and got involved the negotiations were then killed.

That is all speculation, just one scenario. I think it's also possible that Welling was simply in talks and it didn't work out contractually for whatever reason, that happens all the time in Hollywood. No fault of anybody in particular.

[The Incredible Hulk]

I thought Captain America was dead?

apparently he just went shopping...and took a firearm course


WB obviously has spoken to the right people to keep whatever is happening with this movie quiet. Whether they found the leaks and plugged them or have spoken with the webmasters on sites like IESB, remains to be seen.

My opinion is that WB is planning a big release of this news and is goi to Hype it up, most likely a press release given to all sites to release when they deem it time.

I think WB got ticked off at Rob for going on live television and announcing that Welling was going to be Superman in JLA while he was still in negotiations, that set of a chain reaction on all the major movie sites reporting Welling as Superman. The problem is the negtiations fell through, and it is also possible this was going on behind Gough's back, and once he heard and got involved the negotiations were then killed.

That is all speculation, just one scenario. I think it's also possible that Welling was simply in talks and it didn't work out contractually for whatever reason, that happens all the time in Hollywood. No fault of anybody in particular.

that sounds plausible as well. hopefully thats not the case

[Superman_]

It is Bucky that is who the new Cap is. Think AzBat.

[KBX]

So basically we are not going to hear anything until the WB announces the cast? What is that a 2 month wait? sigh....

[Lighthouse]

Well, Routh wasn't announced till October 20th, and that was just one guy. We might not get anything till November.

[Superman_]

Well, Routh wasn't announced till October 20th, and that was just one guy. We might not get anything till November.Apparently they want to announce everyone at the same time. Like Routh, your going to get mixed reactions with Welling if he is cast so I am assuming that they are trying to get a great supporting cast around him (Routh or Welling) to take away the people's doubt.

[zerohour films]

My god, it is always toward the end of the week that we hear news it might be next week. Not knocking Robert or anyone else, but jeez...what a mess this has been.

Showtime...that scenario does sound like a very good possibility.

[Showtime]

Well, Routh wasn't announced till October 20th, and that was just one guy. We might not get anything till November.

I thought it was October 4th.

[DrunkSquirrel]

While I am not a Welling fan (read indifferent), if he gets his shot at wearing the tights, well good for him. Maybe he will do a great job, or possibly stink it up. Time will tell (if he gets the part that is). I find it odd that WB will be recasting their popular franchises (Superman and Batman) for this film, but since it is a completely different story and does not fit into the other films continuity, then what is it going to hurt?

[The Incredible Hulk]

I thought it was October 4th.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/558/558468p1.html

[KBX]

Just let me make myself clear...

...Welling or no Welling for JL, JL is 100% going to happen?

[Superman_]

Just let me make myself clear...

...Welling or no Welling for JL, JL is 100% going to happen?Yep, well it all depends also how fast this movie comes together before Singer finishes his movie as well. Because rumor has it he is already getting his stuff together for MOS (well to present anyways).

[OobeDoobBenubi]

When was that posted Superman_ ?

[Superman_]

When was that posted ?On other sites like BT and elsewhere they are saying Singer is getting things together for MOS after he finishes up the movie he is already working for that just in case. It is highly unlikely but for that just in case.

[DrunkSquirrel]

Yep, well it all depends also how fast this movie comes together before Singer finishes his movie as well. Because rumor has it he is already getting his stuff together for MOS (well to present anyways).

Heck... bring 'em both on.

Singer's SR follow-up and JL. The more the better. Like I said, being two totally different films, I do not foresee a huge outcry over it. At least there shouldn't be.

[KalKai]

"BT and elsewhere", lol.

[KBX]

Yep, well it all depends also how fast this movie comes together before Singer finishes his movie as well. Because rumor has it he is already getting his stuff together for MOS (well to present anyways).

Great... Im sorry to all you Welling/Routh lovers out there, but for me I want a JLA movie, thats the bottom line.

I'm all for a MOS/Singer movie as well, they really need to clear up a few things, but I don't see the movie being made til 2010 at the earliest...

Yes I am a DC whore...

[Showtime]

http://movies.ign.com/articles/558/558468p1.html

I see. It was made "official" on October 20th. Maybe it was originally rumored on October 4th? Not so sure. Maybe I am just old? :csad:

[DrunkSquirrel]

Great... Im sorry to all you Welling/Routh lovers out there, but for me I want a JLA movie, thats the bottom line.

I'm all for a MOS/Singer movie as well, they really need to clear up a few things, but I don't see the movie being made til 2010 at the earliest...

Yes I am a DC whore...

I can't possibly agree with this sentiment any more than I already do. I am with you on this.

[KBX]

I see. It was made "official" on October 20th. Maybe it was originally rumored on October 4th? Not so sure. Maybe I am just old? :csad:

Yeah I think it was leaked as well. Hopefully the same thing could have with the JL, but WB seems really up tight about this. More so than ever before...

I can't possibly agree with this sentiment any more than I already do. I am with you on this.

Roll with me!!! WE GOT THIS!!!!

[The Incredible Hulk]

Yep, well it all depends also how fast this movie comes together before Singer finishes his movie as well. Because rumor has it he is already getting his stuff together for MOS (well to present anyways).

MOS has no bearing on JLA or vice versa. Just stop. Not to mention Singer and many in the cast have other projects theyre still committed to.

[Lighthouse]

I see. It was made "official" on October 20th. Maybe it was originally rumored on October 4th? Not so sure. Maybe I am just old? :csad:

Yeah, Latino Review had broken the news earlier about Brandon being Superman, but WB announced it on October 20th.

[Superman_]

MOS has no bearing on JLA or vice versa. Just stop. Not to mention Singer and many in the cast have other projects theyre still committed to.I am not saying it does. What I am saying is that movie is the second option for the WB if JLA does not come together for them in the time they think it should. I am not saying it will effect it because it won't.

[AgentPat]

I see. It was made "official" on October 20th. Maybe it was originally rumored on October 4th? Not so sure. Maybe I am just old? :csad:Latino Review broke it on 10/16/04.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=144251

As far as the 4th, the only thing I remember with that date was Wed., August 4th, 2004, which was when S5 broke the rumor that Welling had been offered the role for SR. Two days later, "insiders" were saying that he had indeed signed... *something.* And then two days after that, Welling was quoted at the MTV Teen Choice Awards on Sunday saying he had signed on for a movie but was not allowed to discuss it. "I'm sworn to secrecy. It's too early."

This is such deja freakin' vu. :dry:

[Superman_]

Yeah, Latino Review had broken the news earlier about Brandon being Superman, but WB announced it on October 20th.
The reason for it being announced later was that Reeve died right before they were going to break the news.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

This is such deja freakin' vu :dry:

Maybe October is the WBs Super Hero month :huh:

[AgentPat]

Maybe October is the WBs Super Hero month :huh:LOL! Could be. It's not like we have a better explanation at this point. :D

[OobeDoobBenubi]

LOL! Could be. It's not like we have a better explanation at this point. :D

Or at the most October is Superman & now Justice League month at the WB. I say Superman & Justice League month because I looked back & Christian Bale was announced as Batman in September. So October is Superman month & September is Batman month at the WB.

[ZIPBAGS]

I am Cornholio! I demand to know who the cast for JLA is! And TP for my bunghole!!!

http://www.blowing-kisses.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_db_beavis_cornholio1.gif

[Lighthouse]

Latino Review broke it on 10/16/04.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=144251

As far as the 4th, the only thing I remember with that date was Wed., August 4th, 2004, which was when S5 broke the rumor that Welling had been offered the role for SR. Two days later, "insiders" were saying that he had indeed signed... *something.* And then two days after that, Welling was quoted at the MTV Teen Choice Awards on Sunday saying he had signed on for a movie but was not allowed to discuss it. "I'm sworn to secrecy. It's too early."

This is such deja freakin' vu. :dry:

What is so weird is that he was secretive over The Fog. Blech!

[AgentPat]

What is so weird is that he was secretive over The Fog. Blech!It wasn't The Fog. He and the director didn't even meet until the winter, and The Fog was nowhere near being greenlit in August, never mind having a director attached or a script written. It wasn't The Fog.

BTW... Jayne just posted over at IESB. Damn. This is just... unbelievable.


Robert,

My email is down so I'm posting this here for you. Something for you to look into while I'm on vacation.

I've been trying to find out more about the press release I told you about and got almost nowhere. However, someone who my husband worked with on a few projects last year that is usually a reliable source told him today that WB is planning to release all info about JLA including cast, filming dates, release date, etc on Nov 18th. After making some calls myself, it turns out that is the last day of the Wizard World Texas Convention. Would they really wait that long to release anything?? I tried confirming it and ran into big brick walls here. I'm hoping you might have better luck.

Let me know what you find out.

[TWistim]

WB obviously has spoken to the right people to keep whatever is happening with this movie quiet. Whether they found the leaks and plugged them or have spoken with the webmasters on sites like IESB, remains to be seen.

My opinion is that WB is planning a big release of this news and is goi to Hype it up, most likely a press release given to all sites to release when they deem it time.

I think WB got ticked off at Rob for going on live television and announcing that Welling was going to be Superman in JLA while he was still in negotiations, that set of a chain reaction on all the major movie sites reporting Welling as Superman. The problem is the negtiations fell through, and it is also possible this was going on behind Gough's back, and once he heard and got involved the negotiations were then killed.

That is all speculation, just one scenario. I think it's also possible that Welling was simply in talks and it didn't work out contractually for whatever reason, that happens all the time in Hollywood. No fault of anybody in particular.

Sounds like you are thinking that it's not going to happen. BUMMER! :csad:

Your post would explain a lot of things - for one thing the angry, vehement denials of Gough.

If there is any hope left in me at this point it is that in this last Gough denial (TV Guide) he didn't come out and say directly that Tom wasn't going to be in the movie like he has in the past and the tone is completely different. But on the other hand I almost pick up a scent of "backtracking" from Robert, saying that misinformation has been leaked.

I'm so sick of all of this. Maybe Gough is not the bad guy in this JLA scenario but does it p**s anybody else off that Gough said Clark will be taking "falling lessons?" I can't even begin to speak about how irritated that makes me!!!!!!! :cmad: :cmad: :cmad:

[KBX]

Nov 18th.... I don't care.... as long as it could be something concrete.....

[Lighthouse]

It wasn't The Fog. He and the director didn't even meet until the winter, and The Fog was nowhere near being greenlit in August, never mind having a director attached or a script written. It wasn't The Fog.

Really? What was it for then?

[AgentPat]

I'm so sick of all of this. Maybe Gough is not the bad guy in this JLA scenario but does it p**s anybody else off that Gough said Clark will be taking "falling lessons?" I can't even begin to speak about how irritated that makes me!!!!!!! :cmad: :cmad: :cmad:Don't get me started. I'm finding it very hard to be excited about SV after that diarrhea out of Gough's mouth this morning. Without a doubt, it was the most horrendous interview I've ever read from him. Shut. UP. Al! Just f***** shut UP!

[TWistim]

Don't get me started. I'm finding it very hard to be excited about SV after that diarrhea out of Gough's mouth this morning. Without a doubt, it was the most horrendous interview I've ever read from him. Shut. UP. Al! Just f***** shut UP!

Yeah, I'm hearing ya. Is he retarded or what??? UNBELIEVABLE!

[AgentPat]

Nov 18th.... I don't care.... as long as it could be something concrete.....If Welling is announced, the waiting will have been worth it. But another MONTH of *this* rollercoaster? I'm gonna shoot somebody if this nonsense continues, and my cross hairs are on Al Gough right now, so everybody else is safe. For the moment.

Really? What was it for then?That's the big question. Nobody knows. It was NOT The Fog, and it wasn't the CBTD sequel either. Both of those films happened much much later in time. The proximity in dates to all of the other rumors at the time however - Welling being involved with SR - made Welling's words that much more eye-opening. He said that stuff four days after the S5 rumors, and two days after other "insiders" were saying Welling indeed signed something. Something was CLEARLY going on, but nobody knows EXACTLY what happened between the time rumors said Welling would be in the film to Routh being formally announced.

And here we are, aye-freakin'-gain. It's like some cruel joke being perpetrated by... somebody. "Hey, it worked three years ago. Lets do it again!" Gah!

[avidreader]

Maybe Gough is not the bad guy in this JLA scenario but does it p**s anybody else off that Gough said Clark will be taking "falling lessons?" I can't even begin to speak about how irritated that makes me!!!!!!! :cmad: :cmad: :cmad:

Actually no. :O

I thought it was rather funny, and it's exactly the scenario I imagined when we'd first start seeing Clark try to fly. I would never have expected him to just up, up and away.:yay:

[Showtime]

BTW... Jayne just posted over at IESB. Damn. This is just... unbelievable.

I could have told you Wizard World was a possibility...and I supposedly have no connections...

This is it!
No This is it!
Hold on to your hats!
Grab your stockings!
This Friday!
Next Friday!
Thanksgiving!

[TWistim]

Actually no. :O

I thought it was rather funny, and it's exactly the scenario I imagined when we'd first start seeing Clark try to fly. I would never have expected him to just up, up and away. :yay:

I don't want to see him try and fail, try and fail and stall until the end of the show. There's too many who will have a field day with this one. They've already said that once he flies the show is over, which I don't understand the thinking behind that one, but if they push eight seasons it doesn't sound good to me. I hope you are right and it's not something that emasculates Clark or makes him look stupid for laughs.

[AgentPat]

I could have told you Wizard World was a possibility...and I supposedly have no connections...

This is it!
No This is it!
Hold on to your hats!
Grab your stockings!
This Friday!
Next Friday!
Thanksgiving!Perhaps you missed this comment from Sanchez?

Regarding Countingdown.com's source, I have talked to her and I am pretty confident that her sources are solid.

It's become rather annoying to me to see Jayne continually bashed in passive aggressive ways. If you have a source, e-mail Sanchez and compare notes. If you'd rather not, that's fine too. But don't bash somebody who may indeed be VERY connected despite their personal bias. If you trust Sanchez, trust that he apparently trusts Jayne's sources too and has gone on record saying her sources are "solid."

My exacerbation over the big picture here is the possibility that we may have to wait till Nov 18th for something official, not the change in "story" itself. If there's one thing I've learned about this business it's that things change on a dime. What's set in stone today could be dynamited tomorrow.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Wizard World eh. I guess it does make sense to announce everything there & bring the whole cast & director with them & this will also give them more time to iron out the rest of the cast.

[KBX]

AgentPat.... chill out a little bit.... all it not lost.... I know you have some intense hatred for Gough but remember he is the man that help made Smallville what it is......

There is a new episode of Smallville tonight!!!!

Nov 18th it is......

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I don't want to see him try and fail, try and fail and stall until the end of the show. There's too many who will have a field day with this one

I cant wait to make the back & fourth gif :woot:

[TWistim]

Hmmmm . . . Maybe I should rethink going to Wizard World?

[Whiteflag]

Don't get me started. I'm finding it very hard to be excited about SV after that diarrhea out of Gough's mouth this morning. Without a doubt, it was the most horrendous interview I've ever read from him. Shut. UP. Al! Just f***** shut UP!

Yes, it was difficult for him to top his other horrendous interviews but he managed to accomplish that with this one! :mad:

I don't want to see him try and fail, try and fail and stall until the end of the show. There's too many who will have a field day with this one. They've already said that once he flies the show is over, which I don't understand the thinking behind that one, but if they push eight seasons it doesn't sound good to me. I hope you are right and it's not something that emasculates Clark or makes him look stupid for laughs.

Word!!! :up:

[bootspark]

My Thoughts and Fellings And Replys

1)Respones to Goughs Answers to TV Guide

"Al Gough: Yes, we are sticking with that policy as far as Clark is concerned. (Obviously Bizarro can fly as well as Kara.) But following up on what Chloe said about his lack of flying in the season premiere ("Clark, you need to get on that"), Kara will be giving him "flying lessons" later in the season. Although with Clark, they end up being more like "falling lessons."
So, its NOT a budget issue anymore since Bizarro and Kara can fly? I still hate that Kara is teaching him to fly. Why cant he learn on his own? And he HAS flown in the past.

"Gough: I am glad you are hooked; that way, when I don't give you any new information, you will keep watching. Mwhahahaaha! Here's what I can say: You'll see Martian Manhunter, Supergirl, Bizarro, and the return of Brainiac and the Green Arrow... as well as a future hero to be named later!
Are you trying to be a smartass? Future hero? Who could that be?

"Gough: That, unfortunately, isn't how Hollywood works. You will see a brand-spanking-new group of actors donning the tights for that film. I heard it is under the direction of George (Mad Max) Miller, so I am personally very excited to see it."
So, first you dont know anything about the film. Now you say its going to be a new group of actors donning the tights. I notice you didnt mention Welling's name. You "heard" George Miller is directing? Mr. Miller, your poker face sucks!

"Gough: .....There may also be someone on the show who is currently on Lex's side and we don't know it yet. (Kids, fire up the TiVos and put on those thinking caps!)
Who could that be?

"Gough: You also know that Lex will become evil, that Clark becomes Superman, and that the two will be mortal enemies, yet you've been watching for seven seasons! The fact is, Clark loves Lana, and that is one of the central relationships of the show. She is that crucial first relationship that helps define him and his future relationships with women. The fact that he screws it up so badly, no matter how hard he tries, is one of the reasons he ends up with Lois. Remember, my young Padawan, our story is the journey, not the conclusion."
Clark screws it up? Do you know anything about the comics? Clark choses to leave, cause he knows he cant be Superman and be with her at the same time.

"Gough: Clark's journey this season revolves around his struggle between his Kryptonian heritage and his earthly upbringing, and dealing with his cousin — which ain't easy! Kara will give him an insight into his family (which is seriously screwed up) and his birth planet (which went boom, so there was something seriously screwed up there as well). He will grapple with his past and his future. And now that Lana is back, will he finally realize that this relationship, no matter how hard he tries, is ultimately doomed."
His family is screwed up? SHUT UP NOW!

I cant take this anymore.

2) On a lighter note, check out these old interview clips with Welling, Rosenbaum, and Kruek. I think these are from Season 3.

http://us.video.aol.com/player/launcher?ar=us_en_video_748x541_full&mode=1&pmmsid=1113331

This proves that Welling LOVES the character of Superman.

http://us.video.aol.com/player/launcher?ar=us_en_video_748x541_full&mode=1&pmmsid=1113336

Rosey is very funny.

Ok, sorry this was so long. Ill get off my soapbox now.

Ill now give the mic to Pat. :)

[AgentPat]

Actually no. :O

I thought it was rather funny, and it's exactly the scenario I imagined when we'd first start seeing Clark try to fly. I would never have expected him to just up, up and away.:yay:Everybody walks away from a series of statements having placed different emphasis on the points they feel are important. Clark falling during his initial attempts to fly sound like it will be a riot. I've got no problem with that at all - I think it'll be funny, endearing, and very memorable. How could it not? Remember him looking into the women's locker room? Remember the popcorn? The scarecrow? The BARN DOOR!? But like every other power Clark has discovered, he has it mastered by the episode's end. It plays into the plot in some way and it's not done just for laughs.

So here we have Gough saying they're sticking with the no flights policy as far as Clark is concerned. He'll try to fly, but ultimately fail. But Gough doesn't have any problem with Kara and MM fling, not to mention the whole concept of how cute it's going to be to see Supergirl give Superman flying lessons but have it turn out to be "falling lessons" instead. Golly, I can't wait. :whatever:

I think Gough's an idiot for making some *really* stupid comments w/o thinking first. I believe the success of SV has more to do with its heartwarming cast and the Superman mythos than it does some of the asinine decisions Gough has made. But just to be clear, I don't hate Gough. I don't know the man. I do however LOATHE some of the comments he's made. He comes off sounding completely clueless sometimes.

^ And that's JUST about the flying paragraph. I am TOTALLY staying mum on the other stuff.

[TheLongestDay]

november 18th?...no....nooo...i cant be....it wont be....AHAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA...


...(ive officially lost my mind)

[AgentPat]

november 18th?...no....nooo...i cant be....it wont be....AHAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA...

...(ive officially lost my mind)Muuhawhawhaw!!! Join me, one and all.

<- http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/crazy.gif

[avidreader]

So here we have Gough saying they're sticking with the no flights policy as far as Clark is concerned.

Which implies to me, that they are keeping Clark grounded because that's one of the last steps he'll take before he dons the red, yellow and blue.

He'll try to fly, but ultimately fail.

He wont ultimately fail, because in the end he does fly. It's just going to take alot of practice. Seeing him do this is better than not seeing him even try. In my opinion any way.

But Gough doesn't have any problem with Kara and MM fling,

Because the show isnt about them learning to be Superheroes. Its about Clark Kent. Who cares if they can fly or not?

not to mention the whole concept of how cute it's going to be to see Supergirl give Superman flying lessons but have it turn out to be "falling lessons" instead. Golly, I can't wait. :whatever:

Did he say it would be cute? I'm betting that secretly you think it will be cute. :cwink:

Actually, I dont see the problem in her giving him a few pointers. After all, she can fly. Its not like she's going to be holding his hand when they take off, and then she gradually lets go. Well it might be, but I seriously doubt it. MM cant show him, because his physique is different.

I think Gough's an idiot for making some *really* stupid comments w/o thinking first.

And he's been doing it for six seasons, coming on seven.

I believe the success of SV has more to do with its heartwarming cast and the Superman mythos than it does some of the asinine decisions Gough has made.

True, that's what I love about the show. By asinine I presume you mean some of their more wilder plots and new character introductions, however it may not have lasted as long as it has if those elements hadnt been introduced.

But just to be clear, I don't hate Gough. I don't know the man. I do however LOATHE some of the comments he's made. He comes off sounding completely clueless sometimes.

I dont think he's clueless, I think he thinks he's being funny. Someone should tell him that his sense of humour is completely lacking.

He tries not to give ANYTHING away, and ends up sounding like a moron in his attempts to be evasive.

I also see this first lesson that Jor-el has handed him as a test to see whether he can lead the world by example. If he succeeds in teaching Kara by his lead, then he'll be ready to take the next step up, city by city, country by country. :super:

[AgentPat]

^ I disagree with a LOT here, but that's okay. I don't want to argue it anymore. It's not worth it, and people don't want to read it anyway.

Yes yes, he's Superman. He'll wear the suit and fly when he's 30. Okay, moving on. :D :up:



Somebody brought up an interesting theory over at IESB, and there may be more to it than the poster even realizes.

The understanding has always been that G&M would need to know by November at the latest if the show was going to be renewed for another year. They need to know in order to start the launch sequence or not. Everything up to that point is technically "filler."

Now what if Warner Features has two actors signed for the Superman role in JL. One is the primary (Welling), and a second (?) is the back-up actor who would step in if the primary couldn't. Speculation about such a situation actually started back in Singer's day when Warners supposedly had Caviezel signed as a fall back for SR, and Welling was a verbal tertiary. Reference the MTV comments.

Okay, so the argument for not killing SV has always been money. Hello? The show makes MILLIONS of dollars for Warners every year. What if the November announcement for JL is linked to CW's verbal to G&M, because IF CW pays for an eighth season of SV, that's more coin in Warners coffers, so they would just go with the fall back actor - whoever that may be - who's signed to take the role if Welling can't?

Is that too way out there? I'm thinking dollars and cents here at the end of the day, which is what Warners would be thinking. Remember, options. They always want options.

[The Incredible Hulk]

hell come November there may be no one around to write the "launch sequence" so Tom may have more free time than he bargained for :D Wouldnt that be irony...

[AgentPat]

hell come November there may be no one around to write the "launch sequence" so Tom may have more free time than he bargained for :D Wouldnt that be irony...LOL! Yes, it would be. But I'm thinking that sequence is already written. They've known for YEARS how they want to end the show; they just never know when it'll be because they keep freakin' getting renewed LOLOL!!!

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Okay, so the argument for not killing SV has always been money. Hello? The show makes MILLIONS of dollars for Warners every year.

They can always kill Smallville & then bring in a Supergirl Series with her in the tights & all in Metropolis :o

[Showtime]

Perhaps you missed this comment from Sanchez? It's become rather annoying to me to see Jayne continually bashed in passive aggressive ways. If you have a source, e-mail Sanchez and compare notes. If you'd rather not, that's fine too. But don't bash somebody who may indeed be VERY connected despite their personal bias. If you trust Sanchez, trust that he apparently trusts Jayne's sources too and has gone on record saying her sources are "solid."

I've known of Jayne's posts long before she was popular around these here parts. She's not "new". I gave a stamp of approval for some of the stuff she reported long before anybody else, but she isn't 100% and I don't understand why I have to act like she is? I've never called her names or made it personal like some of these wise guys. I don't go on Countingdown and call her out and trash her. There is nothing passive about what I write, I just focus on what I am disagreeing with the person about.

"Countingdown doesn't need a savior, and neither does Jayne."

Her telling us they are going to wait until Wizard World to make an announcement after telling us every week there is going to be an announcement is not exactly breaking news. Anybody could have pointed to Wizard World as the place for a big announcement.

Even MuscleforSupes. :csad:

I didn't say I had a source on any of this Welling information, I was being sarcastic. :dry:

Nothing against you Patty, I repsect what you do around here. I respect this forum when I am floating around. I just don't agree with you on the subject of Jayne, but notice we aren't debating about Welling becoming Superman in JLA, we are just debating about the rumors surrounding it.

[The Incredible Hulk]

LOL! Yes, it would be. But I'm thinking that sequence is already written. They've known for YEARS how they want to end the show; they just never know when it'll be because they keep freakin' getting renewed LOLOL!!!

oh no doubt the big stuff is written and probably has been for at least 3 years now, but it would still need to be tied into the current continuity somehow and I dont know if I'd trust Millar and Gough to do that. Granted they wrote the Pilot but that's the easy one compared to the ending.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

LOL! Yes, it would be. But I'm thinking that sequence is already written. They've known for YEARS how they want to end the show; they just never know when it'll be because they keep freakin' getting renewed LOLOL!!!

There needs to be an end at some point. Even ABC & the Lost creators both agreed on a time to give Lost a "proper" ending. Smallville is the next X-Files in terms of going on & on continuing for all of the wrong reasons.

[Lighthouse]

Which implies to me, that they are keeping Clark grounded because that's one of the last steps he'll take before he dons the red, yellow and blue.



He wont ultimately fail, because in the end he does fly. It's just going to take alot of practice. Seeing him do this is better than not seeing him even try. In my opinion any way.



Because the show isnt about them learning to be Superheroes. Its about Clark Kent. Who cares if they can fly or not?



Did he say it would be cute? I'm betting that secretly you think it will be cute. :cwink:

Actually, I dont see the problem in her giving him a few pointers. After all, she can fly. Its not like she's going to be holding his hand when they take off, and then she gradually lets go. Well it might be, but I seriously doubt it. MM cant show him, because his physique is different.



And he's been doing it for six seasons, coming on seven.



True, that's what I love about the show. By asinine I presume you mean some of their more wilder plots and new character introductions, however it may not have lasted as long as it has if those elements hadnt been introduced.



I dont think he's clueless, I think he thinks he's being funny. Someone should tell him that his sense of humour is completely lacking.

He tries not to give ANYTHING away, and ends up sounding like a moron in his attempts to be evasive.

I also see this first lesson that Jor-el has handed him as a test to see whether he can lead the world by example. If he succeeds in teaching Kara by his lead, then he'll be ready to take the next step up, city by city, country by country. :super:

The problem is Kara flying around and giving flying lessons cheapens Clark's eventual moment of learning to fly. Instead of having that wonderful "holy crap I can fly moment" he'll be more like the last kid in the class that finally learns to read. Everyone who knows his secret knows he will eventually fly now, so theres no awe or wonder in it anymore.

[zerohour films]

The problem is Kara flying around and giving flying lessons cheapens Clark's eventual moment of learning to fly. Instead of having that wonderful "holy crap I can fly moment" he'll be more like the last kid in the class that finally learns to read. Everyone who knows his secret knows he will eventually fly now, so theres no awe or wonder in it anymore.


AGREED!!!

This is exactly how I feel on the subject. after all of these season's we get Supergirl buzzing around town and eventually teaching Clark...completely wrong move IMHO. that definitely takes away from Clark's moment.

[AgentPat]

They can always kill Smallville & then bring in a Supergirl Series with her in the tights & all in Metropolis :oSure, but SV is guaranteed money in the bank. Supergirl isn't. They could go another year and THEN try to spin off Supergirl.

Just to be clear, I don't WANT them to do that. Given how they've been dragging it out the last two years (S6, and now going into S7), as much as I love the show, they probably should wrap it up. That's not to say I wouldn't watch it next year if it went S8. Hell, I'm here till it ends, or I'm six feet under, whichever comes first. But dragging things out with Lex and Lana last year, and now Supergirl this year... meh. I want the show to be about Clark at its heart. I don't want to see any more parallels between him and his cousin, or Lex's excursion with divine intervention instead of all out evil. Enough. Get that launch sequence started and make it the best 12 hours of television EVER. I know it'll be amazing... when they finally get around to it. End it with a shirt rip or flying out of the FOS, or something along those lines. And then bang, the following year, Welling is Superman in Justice League.

I've known of Jayne's posts long before she was popular around these here parts. She's not "new". I gave a stamp of approval for some of the stuff she reported long before anybody else, but she isn't 100% and I don't understand why I have to act like she is?I didn't say you did, and I didn't say she was 100% accurate. But you're insinuating anybody could say the things she did and be right just because they're slinging poop at a wall and some of it might stick. Reference Muscles.

Her telling us they are going to wait until Wizard World to make an announcement after telling us every week there is going to be an announcement is not exactly breaking news. Anybody could have pointed to Wizard World as the place for a big announcement.So are you insinuation she's just slinging here, because she did say her husband - who apparently works in the industry too - was just told this today. Which is it? It would be nice to know where you stand. Do you believe she has real sources, but because things change, her information is not always going to be 100%, or is she just making stuff up? Because the way a lot of people over yonder talk, they think she's just making stuff up. I don't believe that for a second.

I didn't say I had a source on any of this Welling information, I was being sarcastic. :dry: I know, hence my accusation of a passive aggressive jab. I know you're not lobbing anything at posters here :up: but I think Jayne gets a lot of heat for reporting what she hears simply because she adds her own personal opinion to it. She's not a news source, but people are expecting her to act like one. Her views on life liberty and the pursuit of happiness may be a bit skewed (LOL), but that doesn't mean her sources are wrong or that she is lying about being told what she hears. Know where I'm coming from on this?

[Showtime]

I didn't say you did, and I didn't say she was 100% accurate. But you're insinuating anybody could say the things she did and be right just because they're slinging poop at a wall and some of it might stick. Reference Muscles.

I am insinuating that anybody can say Today, Tomorrow, Two Weeks from Tuesday, and then say no its going to be announced at one of the said industrys biggest events, yes. My point is, it's not really breaking news when every week it's been said the announcement is coming.

So are you insinuation she's just slinging here, because she did say her husband - who apparently works in the industry too - was just told this today. Which is it? It would be nice to know where you stand. Do you believe she has real sources, but because things change, her information is not always going to be 100%, or is she just making stuff up? Because the way a lot of people over yonder talk, they think she's just making stuff up. I don't believe that for a second.

No, I've said it in several of my posts; I believe on The Hype and maybe in this forum, I believe she does have some sort of connection but it is turning out to be quite inaccurate at times. I also have pointed out instances where there is alot of vagueness in her posts. You can't always fall back on, the well Hollywood changes day to day phrase. The fact of the matter is, whether Rob says she is solid or not, he has been much more accurate with JLA news than she is and he does this for a living. I'd go to battle with him on JLA news any day.

I know, hence my accusation of a passive aggressive jab. I know you're not lobbing anything at posters here :up: but I think Jayne gets a lot of heat for reporting what she hears simply because she adds her own personal opinion to it. She's not a news source, but people are expecting her to act like one. Her views on life liberty and the pursuit of happiness may be a bit skewed (LOL), but that doesn't mean her sources are wrong or that she is lying about being told what she hears. Know where I'm coming from on this?

I think she is completely bias, but so was/is Rob on some occasions, thats not really the rub. It's not her checked history on the Countingdown boards either, it's just that she is not that accurate with some of her info and is vague on some accounts. Whether it is her sources or her in general, I am not sure. To me I rather trust Variety, IESB, and other sources.

[Pickle-El]

I personally feel people have allowed her to dangle their hopes of Tom Welling as Superman in her hands...You said it yourself Pat, she isn't a news source, but people treat her posts like they are Headline material.

My personal biased opinion, ;), enjoy the rest of this season...don't let it be hampered by something out of your hands, again. They could press that 'Launch Sequence' at any minute, and it will feel like S2 or S3 all over again. And everyone wins with great eppy's.

That's my opinion, and I stand by it.

[Zorex]

Get that launch sequence started and make it the best 12 hours of television EVER. I know it'll be amazing... when they finally get around to it. End it with a shirt rip or flying out of the FOS, or something along those lines. And then bang, the following year, Welling is Superman in Justice League.

I agree with what I think you're saying. When they finally acknowledge that, yes, it's time to end the show, it will really become all that it could and should be. That's what I've been thinking for...a couple of seasons now.

[AgentPat]

OMG...

SQUEEEEEEEEEEL!!!!!

http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Smallville/Action/SM706_418b.jpg-aeafc6ee-t3.jpg http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Smallville/Action/SM706_379b.jpg-fef30b29-t3.jpg

http://i.enewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=Entertainment%2FSmallville%2FAction&dispsize=600&start=0

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wahoo.gif

[Lighthouse]

http://i.enewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=Entertainment%2FSmallville%2FAction&dispsize=600&start=0

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wahoo.gif

Oh no. Lana has that passive-aggressive "secrets and lies" face again.

[Whiteflag]

OMG...

SQUEEEEEEEEEEL!!!!!

http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Smallville/Action/SM706_418b.jpg-aeafc6ee-t3.jpg http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Smallville/Action/SM706_379b.jpg-fef30b29-t3.jpg

http://i.enewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=Entertainment%2FSmallville%2FAction&dispsize=600&start=0

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wahoo.gif

*Does happy dance* :heart:

[dark_b]

itttttttttttts EPIC :wow: http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Smallville/Action/SM706_479b.jpg-d5e4d4ad-t3.jpg

[Mike22]

*Does happy dance*

OMG...

SQUEEEEEEEEEEL!!!!!

http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Smallville/Action/SM706_418b.jpg-aeafc6ee-t3.jpg http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Smallville/Action/SM706_379b.jpg-fef30b29-t3.jpg

http://i.enewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=Entertainment%2FSmallville%2FAction&dispsize=600&start=0

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wahoo.gif

itttttttttttts EPIC :wow: http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Smallville/Action/SM706_479b.jpg-d5e4d4ad-t3.jpg

OH WOW.:eek: so so awesome.
Indeed EPIC.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[TheLongestDay]

SINGER WANTS TERENCE STAMP AS ZOD IN HIS NEXT SUPERMAN FILM?!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34413

I hope that aint true....his plagarism of Donner may know no bounds....

[triplet]

If you ask me, that isn't red enough...

:ninja:

Of course, not knowing any spoilers from Action I have no idea why someone would be giving him a cape....

[Serene]

OMG...

SQUEEEEEEEEEEL!!!!!

http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Smallville/Action/SM706_418b.jpg-aeafc6ee-t3.jpg http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Smallville/Action/SM706_379b.jpg-fef30b29-t3.jpg

http://i.enewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=Entertainment%2FSmallville%2FAction&dispsize=600&start=0

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wahoo.gif

:eek: :heart:

*sigh*

[musclesforsupes]

WOW great pics!

Does this mean the series is shifting towards Tom in JLA as Supes with the intro of the cape?

[RakuMon]

Hey, November 18 is the day after my 30th birthday.
:wow:

[ZIPBAGS]

SINGER WANTS TERENCE STAMP AS ZOD IN HIS NEXT SUPERMAN FILM?!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34413

I hope that aint true....his plagarism of Donner may know no bounds....


God I hope its not true. Enough with freakin Zod. Its been done!!! Please Warner. Keep Singer away from Superman. :cmad:

[zerohour films]

If you ask me, that isn't red enough...

:ninja:

Of course, not knowing any spoilers from Action I have no idea why someone would be giving him a cape....


Must be a gift from Bryan Singer.

Seriously though, he seems to be concentrating hard on something....could it be the yellow \S/ ?

Remember in the glimpse of the future we saw his cape did have one...interesting.

Don't understand as well why he would be given a cape? I guess all will be known in due time.

On another note..WTF with Singer wanting Stamp as Zod? Can't help but think that was some playful talk on set that someone overheard and took wrong.

[chitownballer]

Must be a gift from Bryan Singer.

Seriously though, he seems to be concentrating hard on something....could it be the yellow \S/ ?

Remember in the glimpse of the future we saw his cape did have one...interesting.

Don't understand as well why he would be given a cape? I guess all will be known in due time.

On another note..WTF with Singer wanting Stamp as Zod? Can't help but think that was some playful talk on set that someone overheard and took wrong.

What episode was that where we see the cape in the future, i'm not doubting you, I know it happened I just don't remeber what episode and I would love to watch it again, thanks.

[KalKai]

There's no yellow on that cape, it's all red. It's Spartan red. :D

What episode was that where we see the cape in the future, i'm not doubting you, I know it happened I just don't remeber what episode and I would love to watch it again, thanks.

Season 3 Episode 12 "Hereafter"

[rumpuso]

SINGER WANTS TERENCE STAMP AS ZOD IN HIS NEXT SUPERMAN FILM?!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34413

I hope that aint true....his plagarism of Donner may know no bounds....

I thought Robert over at IESB said that MOS is on the backburner; aka...indefinite hold. If that's true, then this is a bogus rumor. If that's not true, then maybe some of Robert's other info is going to turn out to be false too. :huh: :csad:

[KalKai]

I thought Robert over at IESB said that MOS is on the backburner; aka...indefinite hold. If that's true, then this is a bogus rumor. If that's not true, then maybe some of Robert's other info is going to turn out to be false too. :huh: :csad:

It is, it's been reported everywhere.

The Zod rumor IS a rumor, it's labeled as such. If it's true, fans certainly won't be pleased.

[zerohour films]

That's why I think this was just something said and repeated out of context.

You can't help but think that since BS and TS both worked on Superman at one point in there careers and with BS being such a fan of Donner's that the subject hasn't come up during filming. I just don't think it was a serious statement.

[Prison Mike]

Hey, November 18 is the day after my 30th birthday.
:wow:

It's two days before my 22nd birthday. :yay:

[Prison Mike]

OMG...

SQUEEEEEEEEEEL!!!!!

http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Smallville/Action/SM706_418b.jpg-aeafc6ee-t3.jpg http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Smallville/Action/SM706_379b.jpg-fef30b29-t3.jpg

http://i.enewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=Entertainment%2FSmallville%2FAction&dispsize=600&start=0

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wahoo.gif


you know I never noticed this before and I mean this in the most heterosexual way, but Tom is pretty muscular. I never noticed it that much probably because he was always wearing a jacket on top. It kind of makes me feel bad that I skipped going to the gym today. :csad:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Everyone think happy thoughts

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/fireblaze614/bondDS.gif

[triplet]

SINGER WANTS TERENCE STAMP AS ZOD IN HIS NEXT SUPERMAN FILM?!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34413

I hope that aint true....his plagarism of Donner may know no bounds....

That's crazy.

I love Terrance, he has a great speaking voice but the dude's a bit long in the tooth to be playing a baddie in an action adventure film.

Must be a gift from Bryan Singer.

It's too blue, it needs to be a bright scarlet.

Seriously though, he seems to be concentrating hard on something....could it be the yellow \S/ ?

Remember in the glimpse of the future we saw his cape did have one...interesting.

Don't understand as well why he would be given a cape? I guess all will be known in due time.

On another note..WTF with Singer wanting Stamp as Zod? Can't help but think that was some playful talk on set that someone overheard and took wrong.

It's hard to say whether there is an :super: on that, can't tell from those images, but :down on Singer using Stamp as Zod.

The guy's too old and if MOS is still going to happen, can't Bryan make his own superman movie without stealing from Donner?

:down

[Prison Mike]

I'd rather have Stamp make an appearance as Jor-El in Smallville than reprise his role as Zod in MOS.

[DvilDog]

you know I never noticed this before and I mean this in the most heterosexual way, but Tom is pretty muscular. I never noticed it that much probably because he was always wearing a jacket on top. It kind of makes me feel bad that I skipped going to the gym today. :csad:


makes feel bad that my parents didnt give me better genetics:)

[RakuMon]

you know I never noticed this before and I mean this in the most heterosexual way, but Tom is pretty muscular. I never noticed it that much probably because he was always wearing a jacket on top. It kind of makes me feel bad that I skipped going to the gym today. :csad:

Don't worry. I'm as hetero as you can be (what's that even mean anyway?) with a wife and a kid, and I think Tom's sexy. :wow:

Yeah, I said it! :D

[TheGraphicsGuy]

OMG...

SQUEEEEEEEEEEL!!!!!

http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Smallville/Action/SM706_418b.jpg-aeafc6ee-t3.jpg http://i.enewsi.com/g/albums/Entertainment/Smallville/Action/SM706_379b.jpg-fef30b29-t3.jpg

http://i.enewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=Entertainment%2FSmallville%2FAction&dispsize=600&start=0

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wahoo.gif

My jaw is literally on the ground!!! :super:!!!

[Showtime]

So...what is the capes involvement in the storyline. Doesn't he give it to Supergirl?

[avidreader]

So...what is the capes involvement in the storyline. Doesn't he give it to Supergirl?

You should check out the episode thread for Action, if you want the answer to that. :yay:

However, I'll just tell you briefly, that its given to him by the actor who plays Warrior Angel

[Zorex]

Considering how many warm filters they use on SV, that cape could end up looking a lot more brilliantly red.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I guess now we know where he will get the cape from

[AgentPat]

So...what is the capes involvement in the storyline. Doesn't he give it to Supergirl?Fhhhaaaaack no!!!! OMG, don't even go there Show. Jeeze. Kill me now LOL. She's not even IN that episode, thank goodness.

The cape is a gift TO Clark; he's not going to give it to his dippy cousin. It IS a "costume" in context with the episode's story however. IOW, there's no \S/ on it. I doubt it will become Superman's actual uniform cape, but you never know. It does give Clark ideas, and you'll see from his reaction in the episode that the wheels will be turning in his head when he holds it.

I love the bright crimson color, the fact that this cape is cloth, and it looks lighter than a feather. Go Smallville!!!! :D :up:

[The Incredible Hulk]

It's amazing the reaction that Tom holding a long red piece of cloth gets. :D

I'm looking at YOU George Miller...

[musclesforsupes]

Pat do you think this means the show is stearing towards JLA>

[Showtime]

Fhhhaaaaack no!!!! OMG, don't even go there Show. Jeeze. Kill me now LOL. She's not even IN that episode, thank goodness.

The cape is a gift TO Clark; he's not going to give it to his dippy cousin. It IS a "costume" in context with the episode's story however. IOW, there's no \S/ on it. I doubt it will become Superman's actual uniform cape, but you never know. It does give Clark ideas, and you'll see from his reaction in the episode that the wheels will be turning in his head when he holds it.

I love the bright crimson color, the fact that this cape is cloth, and it looks lighter than a feather. Go Smallville!!!! :D :up:

I thought I saw a photo with Kara and a cape, and I believe it was on last nights episode, but I didn't watch it yet. DVR.

[COMPO]

Everyone think happy thoughts

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/fireblaze614/bondDS.gif

WE CAN FLY!:woot:

[AgentPat]

Pat do you think this means the show is steering towards JLA>No. I think it means the show is steering Clark towards Superman. :p

I thought I saw a photo with Kara and a cape, and I believe it was on last nights episode, but I didn't watch it yet. DVR.I think that scene was cut, which is probably a good thing 'cause it didn't "fit."

There will be a character in an upcoming episode who wears a cape and tights however. He's been established in show canon as "Warrior Angel." See the "Action" thread for more spoilers on the episode. Many of us are really looking forward to it - for obvious reasons.

[Showtime]

Warrior Angel?

[triplet]

So...what is the capes involvement in the storyline. Doesn't he give it to Supergirl?

Okay, I'm not doing spoilers so I don't care where the cape came from (okay, I do but I don't want to hear spoilers)....

What I do care about is your avie.

It gives me a headache.

You think you can go back to your other one?

Please?

[AgentPat]

Warrior Angel?From the episode, Stray. Superman on the left, SV's version of a comicbook superhero on the right:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/actioncomics.jpg

And from the episode, Ryan:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/ryan4.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/ryan5.jpg

[TheGraphicsGuy]

You guys in the US are so lucky, most of the 'good stuff' on tv is on over there first!! Mainly SMALLVILLE!!!! grrr

[TheLongestDay]

You guys in the US are so lucky, most of the 'good stuff' on tv is on over there first!! Mainly SMALLVILLE!!!! grrr

yeh tell me about it! i just wait for the dvd box sets...season 6 is out soon!

[Antonello Blueberry]

And from the episode, Ryan:



http://www.patcostello.com/temp/ryan5.jpg
Wow This face just screams Superman! How can people at WB be so blind? :woot:

[Prison Mike]

makes feel bad that my parents didnt give me better genetics:)

yeah, I blame my parents for bad genetics. My dad hates it and I just bust his chops for it! :woot:

[zerohour films]

Well, with the news that we possibly won't here anything until November I felt it was time for another comic panel to lighten things up.

Enjoy!


http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5060/twsupes2pr2.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twsupes2pr2.jpg)

[COMPO]

LOL. I love it.