Tom Welling as Superman

[Showtime]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071020/ap_en_tv/hollywood_labor

Hollywood union authorized to strike Sat Oct 20, 12:43 AM ET

Members of Hollywood's film and television writers union have overwhelmingly voted to authorize a strike anytime after their contract expires at the end of the month. More than 5,000 members of the Writers Guild of America cast ballots, with 90percent voting in favor of authorizing the strike, the union said Friday evening. Members voted Thursday.

"Writers do not want to strike, but they are resolute and prepared to take strong, united action to defend our interests," guild President Patric Verrone said in a news release. "What we must have is a contract that gives us the ability to keep up with the financial success of this ever-expanding global industry."Since July, the guild has been in talks with film studios and production companies represented by the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers. Both sides acknowledge they have not made progress.

Nick Counter, the alliance's president, said he was not surprised by the vote.
"Our focus is on negotiating a reasonable agreement with the WGA," he said in a news release.A key issue dividing producers and writers, as well as actors, whose contract expires next June, is compensation for DVD sales and productions that get distributed on the Internet or in other new media formats.

The writers' current three-year contract expires Oct. 31, and their vote gives the union's leaders authorization to call a strike anytime after that day.
Studios and TV networks have accelerated filming of shows and movies and begun stockpiling scripts in case of a strike. The last strike in 1988 lasted 22 weeks. Losses to the industry were put at $500 million.

[unknowndarkness]

MeW reminds me of Betty Boop :)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Hollywood union authorized to strike Sat Oct 20, 12:43 AM ET

Cant wait to see if this effects Justice League or not

[Showtime]

If the strike does indeed go down, it is debatable whether or not it will effect JLA.

[AgentPat]

MeW reminds me of Betty Boop :)Kane, what is your fascination with this forum? You're picked off in less posts than C.Lee can count on two hands, yet you keep. coming. back. :whatever:

[Thunder Emperor]

If the strike does indeed go down, it is debatable whether or not it will effect JLA.

interesting maybe i should send one of my scripts to the studio now. Since the writers are on strike

[The Incredible Hulk]

I'm confused. I thought WW was female? :confused:

:p

huh? :huh:

[AgentPat]

huh? :huh:That's Serene's way of saying MD isn't attractive enough for WW. Personally, I'd rather see MD than MEW, but oh well.

(How'd I get sucked back into the WW discussion again? LOL)

[AgentPat]

If the strike does indeed go down, it is debatable whether or not it will effect JLA.I don't think it'll effect production on JL at all, but we'll see. I think Miller and his team could polish off the JL script if it's not already finalized.

[Showtime]

There have been articles that have included JLA as a project being hurt by the strike, but who knows.

[Serene]

huh? :huh:

:O Sorry, Hulkster. I just don't like her looks at all, she looks kind of 'manly' to me. Perhaps if I saw other pictures I'd feel differently.
I will say that I love her coloring though. That's ideal.

[AgentPat]

There have been articles that have included JLA as a project being hurt by the strike, but who knows.Yeah, I dunno. Could just be those author's assumptions that the JL project has an incomplete script. For all we know, it could be locked and the only minor tweaking that will be necessary will be done when they're actually shooting. Like you said, who knows?

[triplet]

interesting maybe i should send one of my scripts to the studio now. Since the writers are on strike


Not a good idea, TE.

The WGA will bar any writer for life from joining up with them for any that does work during the strike.

They're playing hardball.

[Syncos]

I'm confused. I thought WW was female? :confused:

:p

really? snap, I wouldn't have guessed.

http://reporter.blogs.com/risky/images/3466_180x270.jpg

[Thunder Emperor]

Not a good idea, TE.

The WGA will bar any writer for life from joining up with them for any that does work during the strike.

They're playing hardball.

But I am not part of the union is it does not apply, same with SAG

[triplet]

But I am not part of the union is it does not apply, same with SAG

No, you're not part of the Union now but if you were banned for life you never could be.

You need to join the WGA to do most writing jobs in Hollywood.

It wouldn't be a good idea....

[Serene]

really? snap, I wouldn't have guessed.

http://reporter.blogs.com/risky/images/3466_180x270.jpg

So not my favorite depiction of WW, as much as I do admire Ross's talent.

[Showtime]

Yeah, I dunno. Could just be those author's assumptions that the JL project has an incomplete script. For all we know, it could be locked and the only minor tweaking that will be necessary will be done when they're actually shooting. Like you said, who knows?

I am sure there will be changes and there are changes going on as we speak I would imagine.

[Showtime]

interesting maybe i should send one of my scripts to the studio now. Since the writers are on strike

SCAB! :cmad:

[AgentPat]

I am sure there will be changes and there are changes going on as we speak I would imagine.Hee! Assuming that 14 page script is legit, it looks like they may have rewritten the original story quite a bit. I have to wonder if it still can be considered the "same" movie? If they did indeed change it, I hope they didn't change it for the wrong reasons (concerns about Nolan, focus on spinning off Flash first, Miller wanting a teen feel, etc.) Warners were supposedly gaga over the original script, and they allegedly wanted Welling. Now all of a sudden we get a studio tip-towing around not pissing off a director who has nothing to do wtih JL, them questioning how "confused" an audience will be, and rewriting a script and casting oddly in an effort to satiate everybody - except the fans.

This is why I've decided to just sit back and wait for something official, because this project changes like the weather in Boston. :p

SCAB! :cmad:What would happen if all of the Hollywood studios just said "To hell with you writers. Anybody who wants to work, speak up, because there are millions of people who would LOVE to write for the movies and don't belong to the WGA - and guess what? We're gonna hire them." What would happen then?

I hate unions...

[TheComicbookKid]

This is why I've decided to just sit back and wait for something official, because this project changes like the weather in Boston. :p

What would happen if all of the Hollywood studios just said "To hell with you writers. Anybody who wants to work, speak up, because there are millions of people who would LOVE to write for the movies and don't belong to the WGA - and guess what? We're gonna hire them." What would happen then?

I hate unions...

And they'll write up until they come under the same lack of payment for their work as the WGA did. These kinds of things have to happen at some point. The writers do deserve to be paid if the studios are using their work in other forms and not being compensated for it. I hope the strike doesn't last very long.



On a side note, it would be funny after all this casting and rumors and crap that Superman isn't even used in the JL movie because of the Siegel's lawsuit in January.:dry:

[TWistim]

Thanks, Pat, for the moviehole.net article. It gave me a good chuckle this morning! :woot:

As for what I want in this movie, I have to go with what Zorex-519 said:


But...I dunno. I don't really entirely agree with CinemaBlend. At least, that's not what I want in the film. If I did, I'd be campaigning for Bay to direct it. Which, really, could be kind of cool. If you want straight up, visually engaging popcorn action, call. that. man. Imagine the visual style of Armageddon and Transformers with these characters. But frankly, I don't think it's too much to ask for at least...a few moments? of what...maybe depth, or maybe just strong themes, or, at the very least, a good cast that does a lot with a little.



Whatever it turns out to be, if its not going to be WOW-worthy!!! then I don't want Tom anywhere near it. My interest in him playing Superman on the big screen is because to me he totally epitomizes the character.

I know some disagree, and that's okay with me. I have't always liked the way the writers of SV have written his part but I have always seen beyond that. But, finally, in season 7 we're getting to see Clark in a more Supermanly fashion which is so exciting to me. :super:

Anyway, my point is this, whoever is cast, if its not Tom, they will be measured by Tom in my eyes. He's the standard IMO! :D ;)

[Thunder Emperor]

SCAB! :cmad:

Huh?

[AgentPat]

Huh?"Scab": a worker who refuses to join a labor union or to participate in a union strike, who takes a striking worker's place on the job, or the like.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scab

:)

[Thunder Emperor]

"Scab": a worker who refuses to join a labor union or to participate in a union strike, who takes a striking worker's place on the job, or the like.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scab

:)


lol thanks, hahah i guess I might become one. I am working on two scripts at the moment with a friend. I figured since I wasn't allowed to audition for GL. I Might as well start writing. I wouldn't mind if you guys give it a read to see if my stuff is compelling enough. Of course after I copyright my script first.

[Showtime]

Huh?

You've sided with management! :cmad:

[Showtime]

"Scab": a worker who refuses to join a labor union or to participate in a union strike, who takes a striking worker's place on the job, or the like.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scab

:)

Thanks for the backup.

[Thunder Emperor]

You've sided with management! :cmad:

lol sided with my bank account hahahahahah

[Showtime]

lol sided with my bank account hahahahahah

Touche'

[AgentPat]

lol sided with my bank account hahahahahahJust keep in mind Kevin Millar and Brain Daubach, TE. They were never able to get into the Player's Union after crossing the picket line, and that cost them $$$ later. :ninja:

Go Red Sox! :D

[The Incredible Hulk]

I've always been amused by the concept of people that make 6 figure and up salaries forming labor unions....especially actors and athletes...

[triplet]

Yeah, don't look at this as a chance to break-in.

The studios have stock-piled properties, they won't be looking to buy anything during the strike (if there is one)...

Love 'em or hate 'em, Unions are a fact of life in Hollywood. If you don't belong to the WGA and can't join, it severely limits your options.

It's not worth risking possible life-long employability for a very a short term gain that may not even be a sure thing.

[The Incredible Hulk]

:O Sorry, Hulkster. I just don't like her looks at all, she looks kind of 'manly' to me. Perhaps if I saw other pictures I'd feel differently.
I will say that I love her coloring though. That's ideal.

she's supposed to look somewhat tough being that she's an Amazon warrior and all. She should look like she could hurt you if she hit you but I certainly dont get the "manly" criticism for her...

http://www.monicadean.info/resize.php?file=upload/r27_8.jpg&max=600

anyway, back on topic before Pat smacks me over the knuckles with a ruler :(

[Serene]

she's supposed to look somewhat tough being that she's an Amazon warrior and all. She should look like she could hurt you if she hit you but I certainly dont get the "manly" criticism for her...

http://www.monicadean.info/resize.php?file=upload/r27_8.jpg&max=600


She does look better there. I'm just completely unfamiliar with her except for those pictures you posted above, and I admit, it's probably unfair to judge someone just based on a few pictures. I'll have to see if she's on youtube or something.

[triplet]

I've always been amused by the concept of people that make 6 figure and up salaries forming labor unions....especially actors and athletes...

Most members of SAG don't make a living at it, actually.

As for the writers, it's so hard to actually get into the WGA I doubt their employment numbers are nearly as low. However, it might be worth noting that there are probably tens of thousands of scripts registered each year with the WGA script registration service but how many movies actually get made each year?

A couple hundred probably, more if you count the smaller "art" films but those stats indicate that there are a lot of unsold writers out there...

The unions are needed, but I think their draconian tactics are too extreme.

All that said, I don't think the WGA strike will affect this film. From what moviehole later said about those 14 pages was that they were early concept outline scenes for the Special FX houses to look at, not necesarily the real script.

If the Mulroneys did indeed pen a script that wowed everyone, I would doubt this late in the game they'd do substantial changes when it's likely their scribes won't be available to do more tweaking come November 1st but I guess we'll see eventually what happens....

[bootspark]

Update from Infamous_Emijayne

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&id=1905&catid=20&limit=6&limitstart=366


Many of my usual sources are still being very quiet. However, after agreeing to a few favors here and there, I've gotten a couple to open up slightly. I've still been looking into these pictures that popped up on the net and here's what I've got so far.

Welling supposedly arrived at his home in L.A. on Saturday afternoon and left early Tuesday evening. So, with Smallville shooting still in Vancouver, what was he doing in L.A. on a Monday AND a Tuesday? Nobody would come out and say he was at the auditions, but they didn't say he wasn't either.

Now I can buy the Columbus Day excuse for the last time he was spotted in L.A. when things were happening, but again? I don't think so. Every time something is happening on this film, he gets spotted close by. There's only so many times I will accept things as coincidence.

Like Pat has said before, its not over till the fat lady sings (WB issues a press release). :)

[triplet]

Update from Infamous_Emijayne

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&id=1905&catid=20&limit=6&limitstart=366

Many of my usual sources are still being very quiet. However, after agreeing to a few favors here and there, I've gotten a couple to open up slightly. I've still been looking into these pictures that popped up on the net and here's what I've got so far.

Welling supposedly arrived at his home in L.A. on Saturday afternoon and left early Tuesday evening. So, with Smallville shooting still in Vancouver, what was he doing in L.A. on a Monday AND a Tuesday? Nobody would come out and say he was at the auditions, but they didn't say he wasn't either.

Now I can buy the Columbus Day excuse for the last time he was spotted in L.A. when things were happening, but again? I don't think so. Every time something is happening on this film, he gets spotted close by. There's only so many times I will accept things as coincidence.

Like Pat has said before, its not over till the fat lady sings (WB issues a press release). :)

Quoted for truth.

Emi is still pushing hard for Tom but she makes a good point, if those pictures with him and his laptop on his porch were taken on the 14th...

Why would he take time off from Smallville and be down in LA the same exact same days that the director of a new movie he's rumored to be in is auditioning potential cast members? Is that really a coincidence? Maybe not...

It does give one pause...

*arches eyebrow*

:ninja:

[Paradoxium]

Quoted for truth.

Emi is still pushing hard for Tom but she makes a good point, if those pictures with him and his laptop on his porch were taken on the 14th...

Why would he take time off from Smallville and be down in LA the same exact same days that the director of a new movie he's rumored to be in is auditioning potential cast members? Is that really a coincidence? Maybe not...

It does give one pause...

*arches eyebrow*

:ninja:

Well, he has a wife that lives there? It's very simple, he goes back to L.A. to have lots and lots of sex with his wife.

[Syncos]

Quoted for truth.

Emi is still pushing hard for Tom but she makes a good point, if those pictures with him and his laptop on his porch were taken on the 14th...

Why would he take time off from Smallville and be down in LA the same exact same days that the director of a new movie he's rumored to be in is auditioning potential cast members? Is that really a coincidence? Maybe not...

It does give one pause...

*arches eyebrow*

:ninja:

WWEEEeeEEeEeeEeeEEee!

and the LoLercoaster continues.

http://www.kaichang.net/images/monks_roller_coaster.jpg

[bootspark]

Well, he has a wife that lives there? It's very simple, he goes back to L.A. to have lots and lots of sex with his wife.

Semi-correct. He has a home in LA where he lives in the summer. But when shooting Smallville, which is 9 months out of the year, he lives at his home in Vancuover. With his wife.

So why would he go to LA twice in one week when his wife lives with him in Canada?

Something IS going on. :)

[triplet]

Well, he has a wife that lives there? It's very simple, he goes back to L.A. to have lots and lots of sex with his wife.

She's usually in Vancouver with him during production. I've heard stories of her visiting the set and bringing cookies and treats for everyone.

WWEEEeeEEeEeeEeeEEee!

and the LoLercoaster continues.

http://www.kaichang.net/images/monks_roller_coaster.jpg

Quoted for truth...

Just when I thought all hope was dead, they suck me back in!

:D

I'd say Tom is likely up to something. Him being in LA two weekends in a row while Smallville is in production much less during the week (if Emi's source is right), is a very rare occurance from what anyone can tell....

Whether that "something" is working on JLA is anyone's guess, but it does look promising IMO. However, I'm not going to allow myself to get my hopes up too high....

[Paradoxium]

Semi-correct. He has a home in LA where he lives in the summer. But when shooting Smallville, which is 9 months out of the year, he lives at his home in Vancuover. With his wife.

So why would he go to LA twice in one week when his wife lives with him in Canada?

Something IS going on. :)Prove it that his wife lives in Vancouver with him :)

His wife is a model, she probably get more work opportunities in L.A. I still think the simple reasons explains it best. Tom Welling goes back to LA have sex with his wife.

[triplet]

Prove it that his wife lives in Vancouver with him :)

His wife is a model, she probably get more work opportunities in L.A. I still think the simple reasons explains it best. Tom Welling goes back to LA have sex with his wife.

His wife is a former model.

Now she's an equestrian, he's talked of her working doing dressage in a couple of interviews...

She doesn't need to be in LA for that.

[Paradoxium]

What the hell, equestrian? How the heck you find this out. Seems so random. Then again I have a friend who makes a living off handicap horse racing.

I take your word.

[mellyM]

Quoted for truth.

Emi is still pushing hard for Tom but she makes a good point, if those pictures with him and his laptop on his porch were taken on the 14th...

Why would he take time off from Smallville and be down in LA the same exact same days that the director of a new movie he's rumored to be in is auditioning potential cast members? Is that really a coincidence? Maybe not...

It does give one pause...

*arches eyebrow*

:ninja:

But the pics on the porch weren't taken in Los Angeles

[AgentPat]

But the pics on the porch weren't taken in Los AngelesThe original site that posted them said they were. How do you know they weren't? If there is something definitive about those photos that says "Vancouver," or more specifically, "Not LA," then we can put the JL speculation to rest. Again. LOL

So whatdaya got, Mel?

[triplet]

What the hell, equestrian? How the heck you find this out. Seems so random. Then again I have a friend who makes a living off handicap horse racing.

I take your word.

Tom said that in an interview once before he stopped talking at all about his private life, it was several years ago.

Hell, she's married to a guy making a pretty good living, she probably doesn't have to work if she doesn't want to.

I can't think of a better way to spend time than riding, if she enjoys it. It's an expensive sport so a fairly well-off hubby will help out with that too.

But the pics on the porch weren't taken in Los Angeles

Him being sans shirt in October (if they really were taken last week) in Vancouver with flowers still in the garden is far less likely the same would be in LA.

*shrug*

However, combine this with emi's intel that he was indeed in LA last weekend, leaving LA on Tuesday, then (if that's true) it makes it look better that the shots were taken down in LA (if again, they were indeed taken on the 14th).

That's a lot of if's, however, so there is definitely room for doubt here....

[Prison Mike]

She's usually in Vancouver with him during production. I've heard stories of her visiting the set and bringing cookies and treats for everyone.

awww, that's very nice of her. :yay:

[Showtime]

This is like an episode of 24.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

This is like an episode of 24.

Rob = Jack
Emily = Chloe
Fan Boys & Fan Girls = CTU Agents ?

:huh:

[mellyM]

Tom said that in an interview once before he stopped talking at all about his private life, it was several years ago.

Hell, she's married to a guy making a pretty good living, she probably doesn't have to work if she doesn't want to.

I can't think of a better way to spend time than riding, if she enjoys it. It's an expensive sport so a fairly well-off hubby will help out with that too.



Him being sans shirt in October (if they really were taken last week) in Vancouver with flowers still in the garden is far less likely the same would be in LA.

*shrug*

However, combine this with emi's intel that he was indeed in LA last weekend, leaving LA on Tuesday, then (if that's true) it makes it look better that the shots were taken down in LA (if again, they were indeed taken on the 14th).

That's a lot of if's, however, so there is definitely room for doubt here....

I don't think they were taken last weekend, Tom could have very well been L.A (and it was pretty chilly there too) last weekend, but I won't go into why those pics were most likely taken in Vancouver.

[avidreader]

If he was in L.A., there could be another reason other than JLA. He's supposed to be directing another episode of Smallville this year, he could have been down there for pre-production meetings.

[AgentPat]

I don't think they were taken last weekend, Tom could have very well been L.A (and it was pretty chilly there too) last weekend, but I won't go into why those pics were most likely taken in Vancouver.:huh:

If you recognize his house because you've been there, we won't fault you for it. :p

Seriously, I'd like to put this to bed, because if he really *was* in LA Monday and Tuesday of this past week, it's pretty damning evidence. Sure, he could have been there for something else, but it would have to be VERY important for him to miss two days of production in Vancouver. I don't recall him having to go to LA to prepare for a directorial stint the last two times he directed an ep, and I think we would have known by now if he was preparing for an upcoming episode anyway. Finally, I think those pictures *were* taken very recently, because what paparazzi would sit on them for this long and not show 'em? They get celeb pictures uploaded same day if they can.

[heliorei]

:huh:

If you recognize his house because you've been there, we won't fault you for it. :p

Seriously, I'd like to put this to bed, because if he really *was* in LA Monday and Tuesday of this past week, it's pretty damning evidence. Sure, he could have been there for something else, but it would have to be VERY important for him to miss two days of production in Vancouver. I don't recall him having to go to LA to prepare for a directorial stint the last two times he directed an ep, and I think we would have known by now if he was preparing for an upcoming episode anyway. Finally, I think those pictures *were* taken very recently, because what paparazzi would sit on them for this long and not show 'em? They get celeb pictures uploaded same day if they can.

I'm all for TW for Supes in JLA but isn't this trying to find a needle in a haystack?

Expectations were high and then disappointment. I'm tired of this rollercoaster. I just want the official word from WB but I agree with you AgentPat...

Doesn't three Supermen confuse the audience?!

[The Incredible Hulk]

those pics might have been in LA but I doubt theyre from last week. Tom looks so out of shape in those compared to how jacked up he's looked in the 1st 4 episodes so far.

[ariellem]

really? snap, I wouldn't have guessed.

http://reporter.blogs.com/risky/images/3466_180x270.jpg

So not my favorite depiction of WW, as much as I do admire Ross's talent.

Alex Ross is an excellent draftsman, but the superheroes of his that I've seen all have a similar look (old, tired, hard in the face). This looks like Lucy Lawless' Xena being forced to wear a costume that she hates, and she's very very grumpy. With witch hair.

[phil]

I still have hope:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b110/philm8/tws.jpg

[Prison Mike]

^That's awesome!

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I still have hope:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b110/philm8/tws.jpg

His hair looks gray there. Hope for him as Supes in 20 years? :eek:

[Syncos]

Alex Ross is an excellent draftsman, but the superheroes of his that I've seen all have a similar look (old, tired, hard in the face). This looks like Lucy Lawless' Xena being forced to wear a costume that she hates, and she's very very grumpy. With witch hair.

That's ironic. I've always thought of Wonder Woman as a Xena-esq character. I used to think Lucy Lawless would have been perfect, during the early times of Xena. Oh well.

[ariellem]

I think LL would have been fantastic as WW too. Maybe they could get her now as an "older" WW with flashbacks to her "younger" days. Pair that with Kevin Sorbo as an "older" Supes or Aquaman or whomever, so they can have some scenes together :->

Don't completely see WW as Xena-esque - they're both strong and good fighters and nimble, but WW has good manners! Xena is quite the barbarian.

[Prison Mike]

Not a fan of a Hercules/Xena reunion movie.

[Syncos]

I think LL would have been fantastic as WW too. Maybe they could get her now as an "older" WW with flashbacks to her "younger" days. Pair that with Kevin Sorbo as an "older" Supes or Aquaman or whomever, so they can have some scenes together :->

Don't completely see WW as Xena-esque - they're both strong and good fighters and nimble, but WW has good manners! Xena is quite the barbarian.

It's the Amazon thing that I pulled as a connection. I didn't read a lot of Wonder Woman comics when I was younger, and I didn't watch a whole lot of Xena (maybe an episode here or there) but I always kinda connected them in my mind. An amazon should be a fearsome warrior :) politeness can happen out of battle.

We get a compromise, considering Lucy is voicing Wonder Woman in the new direct to dvd animated movie, Justice League: The New Frontier :woot:

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Seriously isn't it about time we get confirmation on whom is cast? Tom, Brandon, whatever... We need some Supes casting news :(

[triplet]

Supposedly WB will put out an official announcement November 18th...

Likely won't hear a word until then, everyone's clammed up.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Supposedly WB will put out an official announcement November 18th...

Likely won't hear a word until then, everyone's clammed up.

Bah hum bug :(

I hope everything goes well for JL regardless of who is cast myself... I'm really on edge about whether or not we get future stand alone Supes movies. Whether MOS with Routh, or a new Supes franchise I just want new movies to continue.

[bootspark]

'Superman' writers won't return
Dougherty, Harris will not pen sequel

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117974449.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

"Superman Returns" scribes Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris have opted not to come back and pen a sequel to the 2006 summer pic that would have reunited them with helmer Bryan Singer.
As a result, WB is now taking pitches for Supe's next outing from other scribes -- just as the studio is trying to figure out which actor will don the character's tights in "Justice League."
Industry chatter claimed the studio would start fresh with a new take on the Man of Steel, as if the previous pic never happened.
But WB denies such plans and said next pic would be a sequel with Brandon Routh likely to wear the "S" on his chest again. Legendary Pictures is co-developing and co-financing the project.

I really dont think this film will happen. Whoever is cast as Superman in JLA WILL BE the NEW Superman.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

'Superman' writers won't return
Dougherty, Harris will not pen sequel

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117974449.html?categoryid=13&cs=1



I really dont think this film will happen. Whoever is cast as Superman in JLA WILL BE the NEW Superman.

I dunno within the article it does say



But WB denies such plans and said next pic would be a sequel with Brandon Routh (http://www.variety.com/profiles/people/main/890847/Brandon%20Routh.html?dataSet=1) likely to wear the "S" (http://www.variety.com/profiles/Film/main/138443/S..html?dataSet=1) on his chest again. Legendary Pictures is co-developing and co-financing the project. New pic also will up the action quotient, however -- something Singer promised fanboys at last year's Comic-Con in San Diego.

[bootspark]

IMO, its all SPIN. WB is ripping the band-aid off very slowly.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

IMO, its all SPIN. WB is ripping the band-aid off very slowly.

Could be. I just don't want the end of SR franchise to be the end of Superman on film. That would suck :(

I'd be up for a Singer sequel or a totally new franchise though if it's new I'd want an origin story damn it.

[bootspark]

Could be. I just don't want the end of SR franchise to be the end of Superman on film. That would suck :(

I'd be up for a Singer sequel or a totally new franchise though if it's new I'd want an origin story damn it.

The SR franchise is over, but the "Superman" on film franchise will live forever in one form or another.

IMO, Justice League is the start of a reboot of Superman on film.

We dont need another origin story. Superman:The Movie and Smallville have done it wonderfully.

When WB does make another solo Superman film after JLA, it should just kick ass from the start. Have Superman already be Superman. :)

[triplet]

I'd love to see them bring Birthright back into canon and do a movie based on it, but Tom's already done an origin: seven seasons and counting of Smallville.

I don't think it'd be smart to do a Superman Begins...

Reeve's Superman origin story in S:TM is just too iconic. Singer even touched on Clark's childhood a bit in SR, I don't think they need to do yet another origin.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

The SR franchise is over, but the "Superman" on film franchise will live forever in one form or another.

IMO, Justice League is the start of a reboot of Superman on film.

We dont need another origin story. Superman:The Movie and Smallville have done it wonderfully.

When WB does make another solo Superman film after JLA, it should just kick ass from the start. Have Superman already be Superman. :)

People really can't see my vision of a great 15-20 minute kryptonian backstory showing Jor-el and cities of Krypton... followed up by SV moments where both parents are alive ala L&C. I'd also like the new actors since new to us, meeting the characters for the first time as well. Clark gets his job at the planet, meets Lois (falls in love immediately with her), hears about Lex Luthor the corporate success loved by some and questioned by others, and Superman arrives :) It would work and a whole new audience can understand the character better. Just having him be Superman? It seems to me an update is in order to bring in a new audience.

[ariellem]

Tangent...

The obvious abbreviation for this thread is/would be "TWAS". But "TWAS" sounds like it should stand for "Tom Welling: the Animated Series". If there were (was?) such a series, what would you like to see in it?

[bootspark]

I would love to see a post-post crisis modern Superman film. With Superman already established. A Lex thats a businessman and EVIL. A hard-hitting Lois. Wall to wall action. A villian that Superman can go fist to fist.

So what Im saying is, I want a Smallville movie that takes place 5 years later. :)

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I would love to see a post-post crisis modern Superman film. With Superman already established. A Lex thats a businessman and EVIL. A hard-hitting Lois. Wall to wall action. A villian that Superman can go fist to fist.

So what Im saying is, I want a Smallville movie that takes place 5 years later. :)

I don't want the baggage of Clark and Lex having grown up together and Clark having met Perry, Lois, Jimmy, etc...

I think reintroducing characters is the best way to go for a new audience.

[Thunder Emperor]

time to start writing my superman script . woohoo

[bootspark]

Update from Sanchez

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&id=2454&catid=20

I really don't think Singer will comeback unless they let Chris McQuarrie right the sequel.

But like I have said in the past Dan Lin, Jeff Robinov were not fans of Superman Returns and not big fans of Bryan Singer and his team.

Now that Dan and Mike are not doing the sequel I guess I can finally reveal who the next villain was going to be, right?

Darkseid was the the final villain that they pitched to the studio.

Something tells me that they didn't really opt out of a million dollar pay check.

[triplet]

Tangent...

The obvious abbreviation for this thread is/would be "TWAS". But "TWAS" sounds like it should stand for "Tom Welling: the Animated Series". If there were (was?) such a series, what would you like to see in it?

LOL!

I'm not sure but that might be kinda fun....

[AgentPat]

^ Oh, my. There are no words.... but wow.

Um... okay. Back on subject. LOL

those pics might have been in LA but I doubt they're from last week. Tom looks so out of shape in those compared to how jacked up he's looked in the 1st 4 episodes so far.But what's more believable here? That a paparazzi took those pictures months ago and just decided to upload them last week for the helluvit? Or that a photo of a pasty white body taken with a telephoto lens under diffused lighting is going to lack shadows and hence any muscle definition whatsoever?

Look at how they use lighting to effectively show off Welling's... assets:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/spell2.jpg

Now go back and look at those paparazzi photos again. (I'm not posting them.)

Compare his arms in those photos, particularly the views from the side with the bicycle shots from earlier this season:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/bike.jpg


Okay, so lets go back to the infamous 5th season. Here's a shot from Mortal. Note his arms:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/mortal8.jpg

Here he is two weeks later:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/aqua2b.jpg

^ DIFFUSED lighting.


Now lets take another look at the promo photos from this week's episode:

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r180/TWpics2007/CW%20Promos/Season%207/Action/untitled12.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r180/TWpics2007/CW%20Promos/Season%207/Action/untitled10.jpg

See? It really comes down to how he's lit and the angle of the camera. Welling is tall, wide and thick. But he's not cut like a bodybuilder; he doesn't have that kind of time.

I do believe those paparazzi photos were taken when it was reported they were taken. I'm not sure about the location, but if the date is correct, I'd be more inclined to accept the location as well. Melly said she doesn't believe either piece of information (date or location), but declined to say why. So I have no other option than to default to what the site on which the photos were posted is reporting. Nobody is giving me any good reasons why I should believe otherwise. All I have to go on is the pictures and what the site says.


So here's me, waiting patiently for an announcement about this freakin' film. There's just WAY too much conflicting information both public and private for me to be able to put this sucker to bed. And I'd *really* like to be able to do that, 'cause waiting sux! *sigh*

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/nothappy.jpg

[triplet]

I think one thing that people have forgotten is that if those were of his Vancouver house, no way were they taken last week.

He's shirtless and the flowers in his garden are blooming... I don't live anywhere close to Vancouver, but wouldn't it be too dang cold for him to go shirtless and would the flowers to still be blooming at the middle of October?

So, were those pictures of him at his LA House?

Again, I don't think so. It's apparently been cold in LA recently and Tom was seen wearing a fleece jacket just the weekend before so there's some evidence there to think that it wouldn't have been warm enough in LA for him to go sans shirt.

*shrug*

So I think there is some circumstantial evidence that these were taken months ago, not last weekend.

That doesn't necessarily negate emi's report that Tom was in LA last weekend, leaving for Vancouver on Tuesday... I think that info, in and of itself (no need for photographic proof), speaks volumes.

Tom was clearly up to something last weekend, but did that something have anything to do with JLA?

I guess only time will tell.

[Serene]

The SR franchise is over, but the "Superman" on film franchise will live forever in one form or another.

IMO, Justice League is the start of a reboot of Superman on film.

We dont need another origin story. Superman:The Movie and Smallville have done it wonderfully.

When WB does make another solo Superman film after JLA, it should just kick ass from the start. Have Superman already be Superman. :)

I kind of agree that an origin story at this point when SV has been on the air for 7 seasons might not make sense to a movie-going audience, particularly when we've already had SR. It would seem like backtracking.

The whole situation is FUBAR right now, IMO. SR was a disappointment (I KNOW that doesn't apply to everyone, but to me it was) and from what it sounds like, some movie suits that matter, feel the same way.

I'm afraid that Superman as a movie franchise is dead in the water. Unless JL makes MAJOR bank, and has a kickass Superman that inspires people to want to see more of this character, I can't see them throwing any more money into another Superman movie.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

One things for sure is that this movie is Hollywoods best kept secret. Even with all of the rumors.

[bootspark]

One things for sure is that this movie is Hollywoods best kept secret. Even with all of the rumors.

JLA or MOS?

[AgentPat]

^ Justice League.

Crikey... Miller better get this right. :dry:

[sunflowercyn]

Interesting news about the SR writers. No news yet about who will play Superman in the JLA flick...will this ever end?

I think one thing that people have forgotten is that if those were of his Vancouver house, no way were they taken last week.

He's shirtless and the flowers in his garden are blooming... I don't live anywhere close to Vancouver, but wouldn't it be too dang cold for him to go shirtless and would the flowers to still be blooming at the middle of October?

So, were those pictures of him at his LA House?

Again, I don't think so. It's apparently been cold in LA recently and Tom was seen wearing a fleece jacket just the weekend before so there's some evidence there to think that it wouldn't have been warm enough in LA for him to go sans shirt.

*shrug*

So I think there is some circumstantial evidence that these were taken months ago, not last weekend.

That doesn't necessarily negate emi's report that Tom was in LA last weekend, leaving for Vancouver on Tuesday... I think that info, in and of itself (no need for photographic proof), speaks volumes.

Tom was clearly up to something last weekend, but did that something have anything to do with JLA?

I guess only time will tell.It's not THAT cold up her yet Trip!:yay: I'm in balmy 26C Toronto but I was born and raised in Vancouver and I can tell you that Sept/Oct is not usually what we consider in Canada "cold". Its been around 14C with rain but usually its around 20C in the daytime (much cooler at night) until mid-Oct when the rainy season begins. So in a nutshell....leaves are falling and some flowers are still blooming.

As for architecture....could very well be a Vancouver house:cwink: but my guess is he was in L.A. where the paparazzi would be hunting anybody who is anybody. Celebrities don't get dogged in Vancouver by regular folk or photogs so that's why they like shooting up there. They can have a life.:ninja:

[triplet]

Crikey... Miller better get this right. :dry:

No kiddin'...

quoted for truth.

[triplet]

Interesting news about the SR writers. No news yet about who will play Superman in the JLA flick...will this ever end?

It's not THAT cold up her yet Trip!:yay: I'm in balmy 26C Toronto but I was born and raised in Vancouver and I can tell you that Sept/Oct is not usually what we consider in Canada "cold". Its been around 14C with rain but usually its around 20C in the daytime (much cooler at night) until mid-Oct when the rainy season begins. So in a nutshell....leaves are falling and some flowers are still blooming.

As for architecture....could very well be a Vancouver house:cwink: but my guess is he was in L.A. where the paparazzi would be hunting anybody who is anybody. Celebrities don't get dogged in Vancouver by regular folk or photogs so that's why they like shooting up there. They can have a life.:ninja:

14c is about 58 farhenhiet... that's pretty chilly and isn't usually shirtless weather, even 20c is just shy of 70 degrees.

I've lived in cold humidity before, lived on the California coast for a time, and 68 degrees when it's damp can feel pretty dang cold.

I'm still not buying it was his house in Vancouver if that was taken a week ago...

[AgentPat]

Interesting news about the SR writers. No news yet about who will play Superman in the JLA flick...will this ever end?Tell me about it. LOL

That snippet about Warners "trying to figure out which actor will don the character's tights in JL" really surprised me. Is the author guessing about that, or have they really not decided? 'Cause if it's the latter, oh noooooooossssss!1!1!!! ;)

As for architecture....could very well be a Vancouver house:cwink: but my guess is he was in L.A. where the paparazzi would be hunting anybody who is anybody. Celebrities don't get dogged in Vancouver by regular folk or photogs so that's why they like shooting up there. They can have a life.:ninja:That's an interesting point I hadn't considered. Would paparazzi stake out Welling's house in Vancouver? I'm thinking no. As much as I love the guy, this is Tom Welling we're talking about here, not Tom Cruise. :p

[AgentPat]

No kiddin'...

quoted for truth.Indeed. I say that because all of their Superman eggs are in one basket now. Well, the feature film's version, anyway. They may be accepting pitches for new Superman films, but I honestly can't see them committing to one until after JL unspools. They really need to see how that goes over - or under - first. LOL ;)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

It will be interesting to see what happens to Justice Leagues Superman. They are having so much trouble casting that one & now they might have even more trouble casting another guy for a solo franchise. Maybe it would have been better to just spin off Smallvilles Justice League & TV Smallville continues with Kara :o

[AgentPat]

...Maybe it would have been better to just spin off Smallvilles Justice League & TV Smallville continues with Kara :oDon't get me started, Caboose. *sigh*

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Don't get me started, Caboose. *sigh*

Normally Id say no to that because Id much rather see those guys on a weekly basics then 2 to 3 years a movie but the weekly basics thing will never happen as long as the current biatch is in charge. But now with this new news it just seems like it would be easier & they would not need Batman right away because Smallvilles Green Arrow is in a way a Batman knock off & all they would really have to do is introduce Wonder Woman & bring in Batman after Nolans trilogy. I have to (sigh) myself now.

[rumpuso]

I think it's just as likely those pictures were taken in Vancouver as in L.A. I don't remember what flowers were in bloom, but that could also be an indication right there since certain flowers only bloom in certain times of the year and also certain flowers only bloom in certain zones. In Virginia, we've had 40 something degree evenings and 82 degree days...even now in mid-October. All my impatiens are still at the height of bloom.

Anyway, I haven't been to IESB in several days so am a little behind. Has Robert ever commented on Emijayne's latest round of hyping us all up?

[Syncos]

I think it's just as likely those pictures were taken in Vancouver as in L.A. I don't remember what flowers were in bloom, but that could also be an indication right there since certain flowers only bloom in certain times of the year and also certain flowers only bloom in certain zones. In Virginia, we've had 40 something degree evenings and 82 degree days...even now in mid-October. All my impatiens are still at the height of bloom.

Anyway, I haven't been to IESB in several days so am a little behind. Has Robert ever commented on Emijayne's latest round of hyping us all up?

I'm fairly certain the west coast has already had snow, this year. =X

[mellyM]

If they were taken in L.A it could have been over the summer, those pics haven't appeared on any paparazzi site, most of his pics don't end up there, so I doubt people are clamoring for pics of him, as much as we are:) And why would he drag his dogs along for a 3 day trip? Regardless, I'm missing the significance of him being in L.A anyway, weren't we told he's not doing the film?

[KalKai]

'Superman' writers won't return
Dougherty, Harris will not pen sequel

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117974449.html?categoryid=13&cs=1



I really dont think this film will happen. Whoever is cast as Superman in JLA WILL BE the NEW Superman.

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9969/yahwoovo0.gif

[RakuMon]

Tangent...

The obvious abbreviation for this thread is/would be "TWAS". But "TWAS" sounds like it should stand for "Tom Welling: the Animated Series". If there were (was?) such a series, what would you like to see in it?

Like this? :D

[The Incredible Hulk]

That snippet about Warners "trying to figure out which actor will don the character's tights in JL" really surprised me. Is the author guessing about that, or have they really not decided? 'Cause if it's the latter, oh noooooooossssss!1!1!!! ;)



My guess is that its just an inference from the news about Warner's casting calls being made public and them not having announced anything yet. I dont think they were saying they had any specific knowledge of the JLA casting

[RakuMon]

I kind of agree that an origin story at this point when SV has been on the air for 7 seasons might not make sense to a movie-going audience, particularly when we've already had SR. It would seem like backtracking.

The whole situation is FUBAR right now, IMO. SR was a disappointment (I KNOW that doesn't apply to everyone, but to me it was) and from what it sounds like, some movie suits that matter, feel the same way.

I'm afraid that Superman as a movie franchise is dead in the water. Unless JL makes MAJOR bank, and has a kickass Superman that inspires people to want to see more of this character, I can't see them throwing any more money into another Superman movie.

I don't know. I think a "Birthright" type movie could work. The first 20-30 minutes or so could be like Batman Begins, in which Clark is discovering himself around the world. As much as I love the first Superman movie, I'd still love to see a modern take on Superman's origin. I think using the actors from Smallville lends itself nicely to such a movie. We don't have to dwell on Clark's growing up in Smallville. It can start right as Clark is in Africa. But I want to see a modern Clark's first day at the Planet, meeting Lois for the first time (again) and making his debut in Metropolis as a very public superhero.

[musclesforsupes]

So things looking any better since last friday?:huh:

[rumpuso]

We don't have to dwell on Clark's growing up in Smallville. It can start right as Clark is in Africa. But I want to see a modern Clark's first day at the Planet, meeting Lois for the first time (again) and making his debut in Metropolis as a very public superhero.

Absolutely agree. This was my favorite part in the CR Superman movie. The buildup was so exciting and watching him run past the phone booth and pause to notice that it was an open phone booth, was such a funny nod. If they updated this now, it'd be very welcome. Kind of a bummer it wasn't even touched upon in Superman Returns.

I'd love to feel excited about a Superman movie again. Only Smallville's early season's (when it was new) gave me that same feeling as the movie.

[Mandrill]

As WB want writers to pitch idea's does anyone think G&M could pitch an idea(not saying TW would be cast though ) ,especially as there was rumors Gough wanted a producers credit on ''Justice League'' if TW was cast.

I see SR as the completion of a trilogy STM,S2 SR so I think they should go in a whole new direction.

[Serene]

I don't know. I think a "Birthright" type movie could work. The first 20-30 minutes or so could be like Batman Begins, in which Clark is discovering himself around the world. As much as I love the first Superman movie, I'd still love to see a modern take on Superman's origin. I think using the actors from Smallville lends itself nicely to such a movie. We don't have to dwell on Clark's growing up in Smallville. It can start right as Clark is in Africa. But I want to see a modern Clark's first day at the Planet, meeting Lois for the first time (again) and making his debut in Metropolis as a very public superhero.

Don't get me wrong, I would too, but I'm just afraid that since SR is "out there" it seems like a real gamble to essentially walk that same road so soon with general movie-goers. Even though SR wasn't a true origin story, per se, it was the 'big' Superman movie and I'm still not convinced that the public is dying to see the next one based on the so-called big ticket sales. Just because people saw it, doesn't mean they liked it, or would go see a sequel. I think they'll need more incentive than simply wanting to see a sequel to SR.

Before I get busted from the SR loyal; I KNOW this is TOTALLY just my impression. :)

I think a really successful JL movie is vital to recharge an interest in Superman with the general public, let alone all the other characters - aside from Batman who has already been established.

[RakuMon]

Don't get me wrong, I would too, but I'm just afraid that since SR is "out there" it seems like a real gamble to essentially walk that same road so soon with general movie-goers. Even though SR wasn't a true origin story, per se, it was the 'big' Superman movie and I'm still not convinced that the public is dying to see the next one based on the so-called big ticket sales. Just because people saw it, doesn't mean they liked it, or would go see a sequel. I think they'll need more incentive than simply wanting to see a sequel to SR.

Before I get busted from the SR loyal; I KNOW this is TOTALLY just my impression. :)

I think a really successful JL movie is vital to recharge an interest in Superman with the general public, let alone all the other characters - aside from Batman who has already been established.

Which is precisely why WB should strongly consider a movie based on the characters from Smallville. As much as the fanboys piss and moan about the show, it's common knowledge in Hollywoodland that Smallville's success is what reinvigorated the live action Superman property in the eyes of the general public.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I dont think a new Orgin is needed. Who ever ends up in Justice League should be Superman in the solos & the solos should be sequels to Justice League but focus on Superman & then maybe for the third movie do a mini orgin somehow tying it into the over all story. But it would be very silly to do a whole two hour orgin. I would think most of the general public gets the main idea about Superman & where hes from & hows he got his power. There is plenty of media to watch as well & the main story is the same.

[Serene]

Which is precisely why WB should strongly consider a movie based on the characters from Smallville. As much as the fanboys piss and moan about the show, it's common knowledge in Hollywoodland that Smallville's success is what reinvigorated the live action Superman property in the eyes of the general public.

But do you think it would go over in the wake of SR, without a buffer? I would dearly LOVE a movie based on these characters - particularly a Clark-centric Birthright-type movie, but it just seems too confusing to go straight to a revamping of the on-screen Superman this close to SR.

Big time JL movie with Tom as Supes first, followed by a big solo Supes movie with SV's Clark Kent, etc.

That's my decision. Someone make it happen now. :D

[RakuMon]

I dont think a new Orgin is needed. Who ever ends up in Justice League should be Superman in the solos & the solos should be sequels to Justice League but focus on Superman & then maybe for the third movie do a mini orgin somehow tying it into the over all story. But it would be very silly to do a whole two hour orgin. I would think most of the general public gets the main idea about Superman & where hes from & hows he got his power. There is plenty of media to watch as well & the main story is the same.
But a "Birthright"-esque movie wouldn't be a 2-hour origin per se. The origin itself (as in Kal-El's journey from Krypton and life in Smallville) could be taken care of in very brief flashbacks. But the main beats in the movie would be Clark's experience in Africa, his public debut in Metropolis, and vanquishing an evil threat like Lex's faux Kryptonian invasion.

[RakuMon]

But do you think it would go over in the wake of SR, without a buffer? I would dearly LOVE a movie based on these characters - particularly a Clark-centric Birthright-type movie, but it just seems too confusing to go straight to a revamping of the on-screen Superman this close to SR.

Big time JL movie with Tom as Supes first, followed by a big solo Supes movie with SV's Clark Kent, etc.

That's my decision. Someone make it happen now. :D

Ya know what might determine it? Not JLA. Just watch what "The Incredible Hulk" does at the B.O. this summer. If that's a success, I think WB would be silly not to follow the trend.

If you're not familiar, "TIH" is a complete reboot of Ang Lee's 2003 box office disappointment. Marvel/Universal was able to completely overhaul its "Hulk" franchise without any kind of buffer. And they did the turnaround in less than five years. Another Superman movie (reboot or not) wouldn't be a go until 2010 at the earliest (which is a 4-year hiatus from SR).

[triplet]

Regardless, I'm missing the significance of him being in L.A anyway, weren't we told he's not doing the film?

Yeah, well... the water's been a bit muddied.

Emijayne posted last week sometime that her sources still insist Tom's in it...

*sigh*

The merr-go-round is still going around and it keeps on going and going and going and going...


http://www.sfrisch.com/images/merry_go.jpg

[musclesforsupes]

Should Fergie be lois?

[mellyM]

Yeah, well... the water's been a bit muddied.

Emijayne posted last week sometime that her sources still insist Tom's in it...

*sigh*

The merr-go-round is still going around and it keeps on going and going and going and going...


http://www.sfrisch.com/images/merry_go.jpg
Ah, missed that, I've been staying away from JLA news in favor of my own personal sanity, lol

[sunflowercyn]

Yeah, well... the water's been a bit muddied.

Emijayne posted last week sometime that her sources still insist Tom's in it...

*sigh*

The merr-go-round is still going around and it keeps on going and going and going and going...




Oh good God....we are STILL ON THE MERRY GO ROUND!!!!! And we can't get off!!!!!!! Thanks (I think) Trip.

I'm fairly certain the west coast has already had snow, this year. =XActually the west coast is the "rain coast" and the snow you are referring to is farther inland and very high on the mountain passes.

BTW Trip...those temps don't feel cold if you live in Vancouver long term...you get used to it. It's when its 4C and rainy damp you fell chilled to the bone that you are cold. Not 15C:word:

I still think the photos of Tom were taken in LA but who knows when exactly. Like I posted before, paparazzi don't stalk the celebs like they do in LA. Have you guys ever thought that the reason why the pics of Tom surfaced was because the JLA rumours had his name plastered all over the internet?

[ariellem]

Like this? :D

Sure! I've seen pix of that but haven't really watched the show. I was thinking more along the lines of what a show about TOM would be about. Dancing elf Tom, anyone?

[Whiteflag]

Have you guys ever thought that the reason why the pics of Tom surfaced was because the JLA rumours had his name plastered all over the internet?

As a matter of fact, I have. :) And it wouldn't be the first time candids of Tom take some time to surface on the net.

[Prison Mike]

Should Fergie be lois?

NO!

[triplet]

Oh good God....we are STILL ON THE MERRY GO ROUND!!!!! And we can't get off!!!!!!! Thanks (I think) Trip.

Actually the west coast is the "rain coast" and the snow you are referring to is farther inland and very high on the mountain passes.

BTW Trip...those temps don't feel cold if you live in Vancouver long term...you get used to it. It's when its 4C and rainy damp you fell chilled to the bone that you are cold. Not 15C:word:

Well, I lived in Carmel for more than three years and I never got used to it. I don't think you do if you weren't raised in those conditions.

The fog in the summer would make it downright chilly in Carmel and Monterery even as the inland areas were in the upper 90's or low 100's...

Kinda funny, actually, seeing the tourists freezing their buns off in shorts and sandals when the residents were wearing jeans and jackets.

:D

I still think the photos of Tom were taken in LA but who knows when exactly. Like I posted before, paparazzi don't stalk the celebs like they do in LA. Have you guys ever thought that the reason why the pics of Tom surfaced was because the JLA rumours had his name plastered all over the internet?

I think that this is the likely explanation. As Carol pointed out, sometimes photos like these can take awhile to surface.

I still don't buy that's his LA house, Mel made another good point:

If those images had been taken last weekend, why would he have brought his dogs down for only a long weekend trip?

Flying with pets is a huge hassle (I've done it a couple of times) so wouldn't he have left them with a sitter or maybe his wife if she didn't fly down with him?

[ZIPBAGS]

If they do a reboot Supes. They can take a cue from Superman 2. Create a montage of Krypton exploding, landing on Earth, growing up all to the music of John Williams Superman theme. I almost wish Singer didn't use that space shuttle scene in SR. It would have been the perfect scene to introduce the world (& Lois) to Superman. From her getting a quick glimpse of a man flying past her window to the stunned look then thunderous applause of the stadium patrons. Then introduce Lex as a corporate CEO who sees this new threat to his position in Metropolis. And creates Metallo to stop him.

[ZIPBAGS]

I want to believe THIS man can fly!

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/76/superwellinguj6.jpg

[AgentPat]

Amazing how much can change in a day, eh? Now Mark Miller (http://forums.millarworld.tv/index.php?showtopic=74258) is throwing his hat into the Superman ring.

I wonder how all of this will effect SV going forward? Before Singer took the reigns, the SV producers had a LOT of unnecessary restrictions put on them by Features because they didn't want any egregious clashes in the mythology (no other Kryptonias or Krypton could be shown, Lois couldn't meet Lex, etc.) After Singer, everybody could discuss what each production was doing and not step on each other's toes. But with Singer gone now - and lets face it, he WILL be soon - SV will be back in unfamiliar territory and Features might slap the cuffs back on their wrists. And ironically, SV is now saddled with mythos details (crystal technology, FOS design, Jonathan dead, etc.) from a film continuity that may have ended with SR.

Jeeze. Up, down, up, down.... Decisions made over the next few months are going to be pivotal. :dry:

[Prognosticator]

hey pat, I was reading up at that sight you & muscles frequent, and those boards all come across as gobblty-goop to me. where is the "significant data" I was seeking to read?? the Welling rumors stuff?

[mellyM]

Amazing how much can change in a day, eh? Now Mark Miller (http://forums.millarworld.tv/index.php?showtopic=74258) is throwing his hat into the Superman ring.

I wonder how all of this will effect SV going forward? Before Singer took the reigns, the SV producers had a LOT of unnecessary restrictions put on them by Features because they didn't want any egregious clashes in the mythology (no other Kryptonias or Krypton could be shown, Lois couldn't meet Lex, etc.) After Singer, everybody could discuss what each production was doing and not step on each other's toes. But with Singer gone now - and lets face it, he WILL be soon - SV will be back in unfamiliar territory and Features might slap the cuffs back on their wrists. And ironically, SV is now saddled with mythos details (crystal technology, FOS design, Jonathan dead, etc.) from a film continuity that may have ended with SR.



Jeeze. Up, down, up, down.... Decisions made over the next few months are going to be pivotal. :dry:

All those things date back to the original Superman films, so they should be fine shouldn't they? SV may be off the air before they have to worry about further restrictions anyway.

[ZIPBAGS]

A couple of things....

-Does Miller have a shot?
-Would he write a good story?
-Would he be faithful to Supes? (ie-corporate Lex, NO KID)

[The Incredible Hulk]

It's Mark Millar (same spelling as Miles) not Mark Miller

[RakuMon]

A couple of things....

-Does Miller have a shot?

Probably not.

-Would he write a good story?

That's debatable (though I loved "Red Son").

-Would he be faithful to Supes? (ie-corporate Lex, NO KID)

Maybe. Though at this point, anything would be more faithful than the corner Singer and co. painted themselves into.

[triplet]

Prognasticator:

Check out this post of emijayne's:

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&id=2514&catid=20&limit=6&limitstart=366#2428


Many of my usual sources are still being very quiet. However, after agreeing to a few favors here and there, I've gotten a couple to open up slightly. I've still been looking into these pictures that popped up on the net and here's what I've got so far.

Welling supposedly arrived at his home in L.A. on Saturday afternoon and left early Tuesday evening.

So, with Smallville shooting still in Vancouver, what was he doing in L.A. on a Monday AND a Tuesday?

Nobody would come out and say he was at the auditions, but they didn't say he wasn't either.

Now I can buy the Columbus Day excuse for the last time he was spotted in L.A. when things were happening, but again? I don't think so. Every time something is happening on this film, he gets spotted close by. There's only so many times I will accept things as coincidence.




A couple of things....

-Does Miller have a shot?
-Would he write a good story?
-Would he be faithful to Supes? (ie-corporate Lex, NO KID)

I think Millar's history would indicate that he would, potentially, be more faithful to the comic book canon than Singer had been with SR.

[AgentPat]

hey pat, I was reading up at that sight you & muscles frequent, and those boards all come across as gobblty-goop to me. where is the "significant data" I was seeking to read?? the Welling rumors stuff?I think Trip may have answered your question, but there's quite a few sites out there. I don't know which ones Muscles frequents. Here's just a few...

K-Site
DTS/DTTW
Blue Tights
SHP
IESB
Counting Down
IMDb
TWoP
Sweet
BOF
JLOF (both of 'em)
Chud


All those things date back to the original Superman films, so they should be fine shouldn't they?Yes, because SR based it's continuity off the Donner film. SV changed its direction mid stride though; the crystal technology was introduced in the 4th season and was followed by the new FOS design and Jonathan's death in S5. Arguably, they could have gone in a very different direction and in fact, G&M said they had a different idea for the FOS but went with the crystal fortress because of Returns. Now they're "stuck" with following through with somebody else's ideas. I'm not saying they're bad ideas - they just weren't necessarily what G&M had in mind. The need for Jonathan's death in S5 when we're now in S7 has been argued from both sides too. L&C came *after* the Donner films and Jonathan was very much alive in that continuity. So just because these details were in a 30 year old film doesn't mean they should remain in continuity today. Like I said though, an argument can be made either way. Neither is good or bad - it just is what it is now.

SV may be off the air before they have to worry about further restrictions anyway.Unless SV goes beyond S8, it'll end before JL even preems, so there shouldn't be a problem. But this is Warner Bros. They have a knack for finding "problems" and making unnecessary issues over 'em. It was my understanding at one time that Warners didn't want "egregious mythology clashes," but then tools like Greg Noveck came along and said that each franchise should stand on its own. Gah! :rolleyes: Also, many people including G&M didn't think SV would make it beyond S4, so who knows when they'll really end it? LOL

We may be coming up on a crossroads, which is why I believe decisions made in the next few months will be pivotal. Just a hunch.


PS: There's WAY too many Miller/Millars to keep track of. LOL :p

[Prognosticator]

Prognasticator:

Check out this post of emijayne's:

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&id=2514&catid=20&limit=6&limitstart=366#2428






I think Millar's history would indicate that he would, potentially, be more faithful to the comic book canon than Singer had been with SR.

Thanks for the info. :up: Vvvveeerry mysterious indeed! :ninja: :)

And I know Miller's fallen pretty far in recent years, but you can't discount The Road Warrior! Nearly zero dialogue and the movie's still perfect...:wow:

I think Trip may have answered your question, but there's quite a few sites out there. I don't know which ones Muscles frequents. Here's just a few...

K-Site
DTS/DTTW
Blue Tights
SHP
IESB
Counting Down
IMDb
TWoP
Sweet
BOF
JLOF (both of 'em)
Chud

PS: There's WAY too many Miller/Millars to keep track of. LOL :p

Yeah, IESB's the one I was referring to. He's always talking about info coming from there. But as I was scanning it, I found the line b/w rumor, fact, gossip, and speculation to be blurred beyond recognition.

But thanks for the info guys!

[triplet]

Thanks for the info. :up: Vvvveeerry mysterious indeed! :ninja: :)

It's all as clear as mud right now...

*sigh*

:dry:

And I know Miller's fallen pretty far in recent years, but you can't discount The Road Warrior! Nearly zero dialogue and the movie's still perfect...:wow:

Actually, I was referring to Mark Millar not the director George Miller.

I've read a few of his comics, they're okay, but at least he's a fan of the character...

If it's such a dream job for him, maybe he'd have a good pitch WB will sign him up and MOS will be a reboot.

[Prognosticator]

If that quote from Mark Miller is true, that would be absolutely fabulous! At least he's not going to use an American Icon like Superman to express his own self-righteous political agenda!


[CivilWar:o]....Waaaaaaaait.[/CivilWar:o]

[OobeDoobBenubi]

So to recap Emily is saying that her sources are saying that Tom is still in this film & we know for a fact that Tom Welling was in L.A. for two weeks in a row & that George recently held auditions. Could Tom (being the possibly only signed actor) been reading wih the hopefulls ? I cant see Tom knowing Tom choose to go to L.A. of all places during some time off.

[triplet]

So to recap Emily is saying that her sources are saying that Tom is still in this film & we know for a fact that Tom Welling was in L.A. for two weeks in a row & that George recently held auditions. Could Tom (being the possibly only signed actor) been reading wih the hopefulls ? I cant see Tom knowing Tom choose to go to L.A. of all places during some time off.

Yeah, that's what got all this going again.

Why on earth would he be in LA two weekends in a row if something wasn't up? The timing would lead me to think that is indeed with JLA since his second weekend visit to LA coincided with helmer Miller's...

I hope we hear sooner rather than later who exactly has been cast in this film.

I'm not sure I can wait another month to find out.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I guess I can picture them having Tom read (if he is indeed signed on) with the ones trying out for Batman & Wonder Woman since going by story rumors since this seems to be a big main 3 movie.

[Syncos]

I guess I can picture them having Tom read (if he is indeed signed on) with the ones trying out for Batman & Wonder Woman since going by story rumors since this seems to be a big main 3 movie.

Really? Where've I been? last rumors I heard, had Flash with the most screen time o.O

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Really? Where've I been? last rumors I heard, had Flash with the most screen time o.O

With all of the whole Red Eye & Batman stuff & the Batman & Wonder Woman VS Superman rumored stuff I guess I should have said the big 3 seems to be hanging out together. I guess time will tell.

[Mandrill]

Well with the writers of SR gone one could assume Singer is next so then although they say it now there may not be a sequel to SR.

So you know if Tom doesn't get cast in JL the rumors of him being in the next standalone Superman are going to start all over again as soon as a new director is announced....it will never end :)

[MJZ]

Amazing how much can change in a day, eh? Now Mark Miller (http://forums.millarworld.tv/index.php?showtopic=74258) is throwing his hat into the Superman ring.

I wonder how all of this will effect SV going forward? Before Singer took the reigns, the SV producers had a LOT of unnecessary restrictions put on them by Features because they didn't want any egregious clashes in the mythology (no other Kryptonias or Krypton could be shown, Lois couldn't meet Lex, etc.) After Singer, everybody could discuss what each production was doing and not step on each other's toes. But with Singer gone now - and lets face it, he WILL be soon - SV will be back in unfamiliar territory and Features might slap the cuffs back on their wrists. And ironically, SV is now saddled with mythos details (crystal technology, FOS design, Jonathan dead, etc.) from a film continuity that may have ended with SR.

Jeeze. Up, down, up, down.... Decisions made over the next few months are going to be pivotal. :dry:

Now all we need is Caviezel as Supes and a different director and I'll SQUEEEEEEEEE!!!

[avidreader]

Now all we need is Caviezel as Supes and a different director and I'll SQUEEEEEEEEE!!!

Have you seen Deja Vu? I could never watch Caviezel as Superman after that movie. :ninja:

[Prison Mike]

Jesus as Superman? Naaaa.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Have you seen Deja Vu? I could never watch Caviezel as Superman after that movie. :ninja:

So if Tom Welling played a bastard ***** like Caviezel did in that movie would you still see him as Superman :huh:

[Spider-Gamer]

Jesus as Superman? Naaaa.

http://www.tvsquad.com/media/2006/05/smallville.jpg

[avidreader]

So if Tom Welling played a bastard ***** like Caviezel did in that movie would you still see him as Superman :huh:

Too hypothetical, because Tom hasnt played a role like that yet. I have seen Caviezel play a bad guy part, so my opinion forever more is fixed.

[Prison Mike]

Still, I can't see Caviezel as Superman.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Too hypothetical, because Tom hasnt played a role like that yet

You never know he could one day. Heck look at Christian Bale who went from a racist ******* in Shaft to Batman. But the question is still a valid question regardless wether or not he has played a character like that yet. It works both ways for any actor.

[Spider-Gamer]

You never know he could one day. Heck look at Christian Bale who went from a racist ******* in Shaft to Batman.

Maybe deep down Batman is racist too! Kidding! :oldrazz:

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I wish they'd gone to Jeph Loeb for a pitch or they'd let Gough and Millar pitch their take on the movie. It would made sense since their series is what rejuvenated the Superman franchise...

[avidreader]

You never know he could one day. Heck look at Christian Bale who went from a racist ******* in Shaft to Batman. But the question is still a valid question regardless wether or not he has played a character like that yet. It works both ways for any actor.

I never saw Shaft and yeah sure its a valid question, but its one I cant answer.

But I have seen Tom play Superman for 7 years whereas the only role I've seen Caviezel in, where he was remotely good was Frequency.

[Spider-Gamer]

I never saw Shaft and yeah sure its a valid question, but its one I cant answer.

But I have seen Tom play Superman for 7 years whereas the only role I've seen Caviezel in, where he was remotely good was Frequency.

Frequency, in my eyes, is one of the best movies to watch on Father's Day. It has Baseball, science fiction, a murder mystery, etc. Everything a guy can want in a movie. :oldrazz:

[Syncos]

I never saw Shaft and yeah sure its a valid question, but its one I cant answer.

But I have seen Tom play Superman for 7 years whereas the only role I've seen Caviezel in, where he was remotely good was Frequency.

.... Have you not seen the Count of Monte Cristo?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

but its one I cant answer


Cant answer or refuse to ? This is a very simple question

[Spider-Gamer]

.... Have you not seen the Count of Monte Cristo?

I heard it was very different from the book. Is it true? :huh:

[MJZ]

Jesus as Superman? Naaaa.

I take it a lot of you weren't around for the casting wars--JC was a big player back then.

Have you seen Deja Vu? I could never watch Caviezel as Superman after that movie. :ninja:

'Fraid not, but he's a fantastic actor, has the right look, and moreover wants/wanted the role. He is also Mark Millar's choice for it as well.

For a mature Superman, he is the only choice IMO. Tom is it for a younger version of course.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/MJZ/Superman%20Triad%20Project/JC-Lee.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/MJZ/Superman%20Triad%20Project/102.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/MJZ/Superman%20Triad%20Project/JC_Superman.gif

[Syncos]

I heard it was very different from the book. Is it true? :huh:

I'm not sure, I havn't read the book. The movie, however, was fantastic.

[Prison Mike]

I take it a lot of you weren't around for the casting wars--JC was a big player back then.



'Fraid not, but he's a fantastic actor, has the right look, and moreover wants/wanted the role. He is also Mark Millar's choice for it as well.

For a mature Superman, he is the only choice IMO. Tom is it for a younger version of course.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/MJZ/Superman%20Triad%20Project/JC-Lee.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/MJZ/Superman%20Triad%20Project/102.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/MJZ/Superman%20Triad%20Project/JC_Superman.gif

No I was around and I knew he was rumored, but I just never saw him as Superman. I still don't.

[triplet]

Now all we need is Caviezel as Supes and a different director and I'll SQUEEEEEEEEE!!!

I don't see it, unless they're going a lot older than they seem to be actually going...

So, I don't think he has a chance.

Have you seen Deja Vu? I could never watch Caviezel as Superman after that movie. :ninja:

I haven't seen that, well... not all the way through anyway.

.... Have you not seen the Count of Monte Cristo?

I saw that and he was very good in that. Guy Pearce was better...

That guy always plays an ass but he does it so well.


I take it a lot of you weren't around for the casting wars--JC was a big player back then.

I was and I still don't see it, especially now. He's 3 years older...


'Fraid not, but he's a fantastic actor, has the right look, and moreover wants/wanted the role. He is also Mark Millar's choice for it as well.

For a mature Superman, he is the only choice IMO. Tom is it for a younger version of course.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/MJZ/Superman%20Triad%20Project/JC-Lee.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/MJZ/Superman%20Triad%20Project/102.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/MJZ/Superman%20Triad%20Project/JC_Superman.gif

Good actor, Good look, but still way too old.

I'm not sure, I havn't read the book [The Count of Monte Cristo]. The movie, however, was fantastic.

Same here. I really loved the movie, but the sandwich is better!

:D

Hard to find a good Monte Cristo nowadays...

;)

[Tomwelling4sups]

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[BenReilly19]

I take it a lot of you weren't around for the casting wars--JC was a big player back then.



'Fraid not, but he's a fantastic actor, has the right look, and moreover wants/wanted the role. He is also Mark Millar's choice for it as well.

For a mature Superman, he is the only choice IMO. Tom is it for a younger version of course.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/MJZ/Superman%20Triad%20Project/JC-Lee.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/MJZ/Superman%20Triad%20Project/102.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/MJZ/Superman%20Triad%20Project/JC_Superman.gif

A Superman film penned by Mark Millar with Jim Caviezel in the lead would definitely be a sight to see. :up:

I will say this, all the people that hated all the Cristian allegories and Christ-like themes in the Donner/Singer films, would probably have a seizure if Millar ever got a hold of the character, lol. Personally, I've always loved them. Really gives the character a mythic quality.

[Mandrill]

I'm sure I read once Miller thinks Superman is too advanced to be attracted to Lois that humans are like apes to him.

[avidreader]

Frequency, in my eyes, is one of the best movies to watch on Father's Day. It has Baseball, science fiction, a murder mystery, etc. Everything a guy can want in a movie. :oldrazz:

Yeah, I love that movie.

.... Have you not seen the Count of Monte Cristo?

You know I never have and I probably worded my previous post wrong. I should have said the only movie I've seen him in where he played a good guy was Frequency.


Cant answer or refuse to ? This is a very simple question

I said "cant" and that's what I meant. If I refused to answer it, then I just would have ignored you. I told you why I cant answer it.

[zerohour films]

I really like JC as an actor, but just don't see him as Superman.
I think it's mainly because he doesn't have the strong jaw Superman should have IMO.

On the other hand Count of Monte Cristo was a fantastic movie...When he is the Count I swear the outfit he wears along with his goatee reminds me of Dr. Strange. I think he would be perfect for that!

[Syncos]

You know I never have and I probably worded my previous post wrong. I should have said the only movie I've seen him in where he played a good guy was Frequency.


No, you worded it correctly :)

I was just surprised you hadn't seen it. I thought everyone has.

Check it out. Fantastic movie.

[ariellem]

...

Took a too-quick look at your avy and thought it was a joke poster for a sequel to Happy Feet <LOL>!

[ZIPBAGS]

So has Robert ever responded to Emijayne's last post?

[triplet]

So has Robert ever responded to Emijayne's last post?

I don't think so, he's got some other stories he's working I think.

We may not hear anything more until the 18th, damn them all to hell for the bastards they are!

*sigh*

They shouldn't make us wait that long...

:(

[KBX]

I don't think so, he's got some other stories he's working I think.

We may not hear anything more until the 18th, damn them all to hell for the bastards they are!

*sigh*

They shouldn't make us wait that long...

:(

Well the WB never said they will officially announce anything soon. It is the people with the "inside" sources have been stated we will hear something soon.

[triplet]

Well the WB never said they will officially announce anything soon. It is the people with the "inside" sources have been stated we will hear something soon.

I'm not sure they pulled the 18th date out of the air...

:confused:

[AgentPat]

Epic just posted this over at BT's:

this was from a post on newsaram message board:

Since Mark and I share the same agency, CAA, I called to put in a good word on this, and was told that Paul Levitz some time ago put down the hammer, hard, on the notion of any Marvel writers -- whether or not they worked for DC previously -- writing any DC property. The higher visibility the writer, the bigger the No.

As one source put it, "Levitz doesn't think anyone who writes for Marvel has any business telling DC how to write its characters."

It's totally non-negotiable.

Shame, really.

jmsSo there ends the Mark Millar rumors. Lets put the Cavs ones to bed too, kay? :p

So where were we? Oh yeah, Welling for Superman. Ooorah! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/rah.gif


;) :D

[triplet]

Epic just posted this over at BT's:


this was from a post on newsaram message board:

[quote]
Since Mark and I share the same agency, CAA, I called to put in a good word on this, and was told that Paul Levitz some time ago put down the hammer, hard, on the notion of any Marvel writers -- whether or not they worked for DC previously -- writing any DC property. The higher visibility the writer, the bigger the No.

As one source put it, "Levitz doesn't think anyone who writes for Marvel has any business telling DC how to write its characters."

It's totally non-negotiable.

Shame, really.

jms


So there ends the Mark Millar rumors. Lets put the Cavs ones to bed too, kay? :p

I'm not sure the Caviezel speculation rises to the level of being rumor, but there ya go...

I guess if Loeb had been thinking about making a pitch he's out too...

:ninja:



So where were we? Oh yeah, Welling for Superman. Ooorah! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/rah.gif


;) :D

Yep!

:up:

[AgentPat]

I'm not sure the Caviezel speculation rises to the level of being rumor, but there ya go...Good point.

I guess if Loeb had been thinking about making a pitch he's out too... Oooo... you're right. But he was on SV? How's that work? LOL

Warners continues to confound.

[Thunder Emperor]

Good point.

Oooo... you're right. But he was on SV? How's that work? LOL

Warners continues to confound.

Leob Will not be out because he still has a superman series he is writing

[MJZ]

Epic just posted this over at BT's:

So there ends the Mark Millar rumors. Lets put the Cavs ones to bed too, kay? :p

So where were we? Oh yeah, Welling for Superman. Ooorah! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/rah.gif


;) :D

If I'm not mistaken, Millar's run at Marvel will be over within a year or so and he has publicly stated he'll be going over to DC afterwards.

[MJZ]

Good actor, Good look, but still way too old.



Well personally I think Superman works better as an older character. And plus it's something we haven't really seen in film.

Kingdom Come anyone?

[zerohour films]

Here's a small tidbit...

LINK: http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&id=2541&catid=20

Robert Sanchez (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=userProfile&user=67) wrote

First Round of JLA Costume Designs Completed

Just wanted to share a quick tidbit, it doesn't justify a article but still, here you go.

Got a tip from a source who tells me that WB/DC had their first completed look today at the costumes created by WETA.

Waiting to hear back on specifics but so far I have been told that Batman's totally bad ass. Again no specifics yet, waiting to hear back soon.


If they actually have completed costumes doesn't that mean the cast is complete?
Since they would have needed to be fitted to the actors.

[KalKai]

It's just their 1st look at the costumes, they'll definitely do more later on.

Batman's totally bad ass? Even more than TDK's? If that's the case I can't wait to see it.

I'm sure they got Superman's right this time lol.

[RakuMon]

Good point.

Oooo... you're right. But he was on SV? How's that work? LOL

Warners continues to confound.

He was still under contract w/ DC when he was working on Smallville.

In 2005, Loeb went exclusive with Marvel, and he's been with them ever since.

[SamuraiSon6]

it would be great if we saw some costume designs soon

[triplet]

Leob Will not be out because he still has a superman series he is writing

No, he's not working on the Supernam/Batman series anymore...

[Serene]

If I'm not mistaken, Millar's run at Marvel will be over within a year or so and he has publicly stated he'll be going over to DC afterwards.

Millar posted this:
My contract at Marvel is only comic-book exclusive. It's up in another few months, of course, but I would never pitch this if it reneged on my comic-book deal with them.

I have a good relationship with DC now too, as I mentioned before. I got really sick of all the sniping between the companies a couple of years back and offered my apology (which they accepted).

MM

Feud or no feud, wouldn't it be nice if they just picked the best guy for the job? I don't know if Millar is it, but he seems to be passionate about the subject at least.

[Prognosticator]

Took a too-quick look at your avy and thought it was a joke poster for a sequel to Happy Feet <LOL>!

:cmad: No

Here's a small tidbit...

LINK: http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&id=2541&catid=20

Robert Sanchez (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=userProfile&user=67) wrote

First Round of JLA Costume Designs Completed

Just wanted to share a quick tidbit, it doesn't justify a article but still, here you go.

Got a tip from a source who tells me that WB/DC had their first completed look today at the costumes created by WETA.

Waiting to hear back on specifics but so far I have been told that Batman's totally bad ass. Again no specifics yet, waiting to hear back soon.


If they actually have completed costumes doesn't that mean the cast is complete?
Since they would have needed to be fitted to the actors.

:woot:....you guys are TOTALLY suckering me into this anticipation for Welling now! :o

[ZIPBAGS]

I believe this man will fly!
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2185/wellingmanipflyingcopydm2.png

:)

[Showtime]

If the suits are indeed done, this could mean the casting is complete or WETA could have just done mock ups of the suits at this point for reference. If WB is smart they will intentionally leak the Superman suit.

[Prison Mike]

I believe this man will fly!
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2185/wellingmanipflyingcopydm2.png

:)

Nice!

[musclesforsupes]

SO chances have the increased or decreased?

[Prison Mike]

IMO, they've stayed the same.

[triplet]

Here's a small tidbit...

LINK: http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&id=2541&catid=20

Robert Sanchez (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=userProfile&user=67) wrote

First Round of JLA Costume Designs Completed

Just wanted to share a quick tidbit, it doesn't justify a article but still, here you go.

Got a tip from a source who tells me that WB/DC had their first completed look today at the costumes created by WETA.

Waiting to hear back on specifics but so far I have been told that Batman's totally bad ass. Again no specifics yet, waiting to hear back soon.


If they actually have completed costumes doesn't that mean the cast is complete?
Since they would have needed to be fitted to the actors.

I think they would have a better idea of what to put each person in once they decide on the cast, but having a design doesn't necessarily mean they have a set cast yet.

It might take weeks or months for each costume depending on the complexity of it so it's possible they've started work on the costuming before they got a guy to put into it.

If the suits are indeed done, this could mean the casting is complete or WETA could have just done mock ups of the suits at this point for reference. If WB is smart they will intentionally leak the Superman suit.

It's not clear whether they have costumes yet from what Robert said.

Those could be renderings DC is looking at, not actual costumes.

In one of my many jobs I had when I was younger, I used to work costumes in theatre...

I think they could potentially have a mock-up, which I've seen done a time or two. Usually it's done for more complicated or important costumes before they actually spend money on the full thing.

Sometimes mock-ups are full size, sometimes smaller, but it's not common in theatre. I believe it is more common in Film because they have more money to spend and then they might have to do camera tests on more important costumes, which isn't an issue in theatre.

I'm not sure they'd have actual costumes until they have a body to fit it to.

[AgentPat]

SO chances have the increased or decreased?Muscles, do you live in Vegas or something? Is your father a bookie? You always seem so preoccupied with putting a numerical odds to the outcome, as if *anybody* here has a clue, never mind being able to predict the point spread. :p

How's this? I'd say the chances of the Patriots making it to the Superbowl are better than Welling being Superman in JL. How much better is the real question though, and that I can't answer.

Regarding the costumes, all Robert said was that WB/DC had their first completed look, in a thread labeled, "First Round of JLA Costume Designs Completed." For all we know, they could be DRAWINGS e-mailed from WETA to WB and DC. Nobody is talking costume fitting, body casts, material or anything of that nature. Just "designs." To me, that doesn't indicate anything about the casting. If they said WW's costume had a D cup, that might tell us something. LOL :p

Speaking of casting, apparently JayPat at DTTW pointed out that Welling's father's birthday is October 13th, which would explain why Tom might have been in LA at that time (B-day party.) I dunno - I think it's as much of a reach as suggesting he was there for casting business. A birthday party? C'mon. And there's Mel's argument of why Welling would drag his dogs along for that.

In response to a question asking Robert for more updates, he had this to say:

I have given my update, like I said before I don't know about Welling, Emijayne believes that he has been cast (maybe), I think that there was a lot of misinformation being handed out.Meh. Still not enough info guys. Back to waiting.

On a related note, you guys think the JL rumors and fan interest is through the roof? Pah! Listen to Michael Bay's commentary track on the Transformers DVD. Wow. There was downright ESPIONAGE on that production. Apparently, their computer servers had thousands of attempted hack-ins, and thieves even managed to lift a script from Bay's own PERSONAL computer. Now that's just nuts. It's JUST a FREAKIN' movie people. Dayum!!! :rolleyes:

[avidreader]

Speaking of casting, apparently JayPat at DTTW pointed out that Welling's father's birthday is October 13th, which would explain why Tom might have been in LA at that time (B-day party.) I dunno - I think it's as much of a reach as suggesting he was there for casting business. A birthday party? C'mon. And there's Mel's argument of why Welling would drag his dogs along for that.

How does he know where Tom's father lives? If I had to guess, I would say that he still lived in Michigan. That sounds like a wild theory as to why he would be in L.A. Doncha think?

[AgentPat]

How does he know where Tom's father lives? If I had to guess, I would say that he still lived in Michigan. That sounds like a wild theory as to why he would be in L.A. Doncha think?Totally. And even if he lived in LA - which I have no CLUE either way - flying down to attend a B-Day party seems a little excessive. If it was Rosenbaum, I'd understand. But Welling? That takes a little more suspension of disbelief. LOL

[zerohour films]

You guys are probably right...Robert's report isn't enough to determine if they were completed costumes or concepts for the costumes--guessing the latter.

Just looking on the brighter side of things and hoping that casting is done and in a few weeks will be announced.

And Pat, it is just a movie, but it's been enough to drag us all in debating back and forth and speculating for the past couple of months.

Darn you Hollywood...Darn you to Heck!!

It can be fun sometimes though

[Prison Mike]

I could see him flying down to LA for his father's birthday party, but I don't think his father lives in LA. So many theories out there. I just wish we get an announcement soon.

[The Incredible Hulk]

let's just hope the costumes arent being designed by that awful Mingenbach lady from SR...

[Showtime]

After reading the report again, it seems as if they were mock-ups or designs. This is quite common because of possible changes.

[triplet]

Regarding the costumes, all Robert said was that WB/DC had their first completed look, in a thread labeled, "First Round of JLA Costume Designs Completed." For all we know, they could be DRAWINGS e-mailed from WETA to WB and DC. Nobody is talking costume fitting, body casts, material or anything of that nature. Just "designs." To me, that doesn't indicate anything about the casting. If they said WW's costume had a D cup, that might tell us something. LOL :p

LOL!

:D


Speaking of casting, apparently JayPat at DTTW pointed out that Welling's father's birthday is October 13th, which would explain why Tom might have been in LA at that time (B-day party.) I dunno - I think it's as much of a reach as suggesting he was there for casting business. A birthday party? C'mon. And there's Mel's argument of why Welling would drag his dogs along for that.



If those were taken at his LA House on the 14th, again still up to debate, I doubt he'd drag the dogs down and then stay there through Tuesday just for a birthday party that took place on Saturday...

I'm not sure I buy that explanation.

How does he know where Tom's father lives? If I had to guess, I would say that he still lived in Michigan. That sounds like a wild theory as to why he would be in L.A. Doncha think?

Its just speculation, I agree.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

let's just hope the costumes arent being designed by that awful Mingenbach lady from SR...

I'm going to agree with you on this one.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

"Thanks for all the kind responses so far, guys. Some interesting developments today and I'll know tonight whether I should make a trip to LA this week. I told CAA I would pay my own way out to any meetings and give my enormous, three picture Superman epic. As a Scot, I'm hoping someone pays this for me, but I genuinely would crack open my wallet and pay the costs myself just to get in a room with these guys. I'm doing this out of total love and because I don't want Dawson's Creek guys doing it instead. I want to see a Superman movie in 2010 that we will all be happy with. Keep the good vibes coming. It's been little bits of good news filtering from LA for the last 2 hours, but tonight will be the crunch.

MM"

(not sure I like the Dawson's Creek guys remark. It seems a cheap shot to Smallville and Gough and Millar...)

[triplet]

let's just hope the costumes arent being designed by that awful Mingenbach lady from SR...

Quoted for truth!

:up:

I think I went over all my problems with the SR suit at the time, so I won't rehash them, but I'm hoping WETA is going more traditional even if they do give it some sort of update.

[The Incredible Hulk]

"Thanks for all the kind responses so far, guys. Some interesting developments today and I'll know tonight whether I should make a trip to LA this week. I told CAA I would pay my own way out to any meetings and give my enormous, three picture Superman epic. As a Scot, I'm hoping someone pays this for me, but I genuinely would crack open my wallet and pay the costs myself just to get in a room with these guys. I'm doing this out of total love and because I don't want Dawson's Creek guys doing it instead. I want to see a Superman movie in 2010 that we will all be happy with. Keep the good vibes coming. It's been little bits of good news filtering from LA for the last 2 hours, but tonight will be the crunch.

MM"

(not sure I like the Dawson's Creek guys remark. It seems a cheap shot to Smallville and Gough and Millar...)


People put entirely too much stock into what Millar says about Superman. His Superman credits arent exactly earth-shattering. I like Red Son and all, but its an elseworlds and you can get away with a lot in those. I'd be much more excited if Geoff Johns, Mark Waid, or Jeph Loeb was saying these things.

[Serene]

(not sure I like the Dawson's Creek guys remark. It seems a cheap shot to Smallville and Gough and Millar...)

I thought that too at first, but then I thought it's more likely he was referring to the early rumors (which still may or may not be true) about the script and casting.

[mellyM]

People put entirely too much stock into what Millar says about Superman. His Superman credits arent exactly earth-shattering. I like Red Son and all, but its an elseworlds and you can get away with a lot in those. I'd be much more excited if Geoff Johns, Mark Waid, or Jeph Loeb was saying these things.

well he can't be worse than Singer

[Prognosticator]

"Thanks for all the kind responses so far, guys. Some interesting developments today and I'll know tonight whether I should make a trip to LA this week. I told CAA I would pay my own way out to any meetings and give my enormous, three picture Superman epic. As a Scot, I'm hoping someone pays this for me, but I genuinely would crack open my wallet and pay the costs myself just to get in a room with these guys. I'm doing this out of total love and because I don't want Dawson's Creek guys doing it instead. I want to see a Superman movie in 2010 that we will all be happy with. Keep the good vibes coming. It's been little bits of good news filtering from LA for the last 2 hours, but tonight will be the crunch.

MM"

(not sure I like the Dawson's Creek guys remark. It seems a cheap shot to Smallville and Gough and Millar...)

I don't mind it whatsoever! :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

[Prison Mike]

yeah I don't like the Dawson Creek remark either. Say what you will about Gough and Millar, but they did revitalize the Superman franchise and got a new generation of people liking the hero. It's also one of the top rated shows on CW (though I know that doesn't say a lot).

[AgentPat]

Was Millar really referring to G&M when he said "Dawson's Creek guys?"


Not that I care mind you, but what makes Millar think Warner Bros. would hand over the Superman film franchise to G&M? Is there a race or something? Are they pitching ideas too? *cough* :ninja:

[Prison Mike]

Does Millar not like Smallville? If he doesn't then I guess I can understand his worries. But he could also be talking about Singer too. I don't know what he meant by that comment. At first glance, I assumed he was referring to Smallville and Gough and Miles Millar.

[triplet]

Was Millar really referring to G&M when he said "Dawson's Creek guys?"


Not that I care mind you, but what makes Millar think Warner Bros. would hand over the Superman film franchise to G&M? Is there a race or something? Are they pitching ideas too? *cough* :ninja:

Sounds like to me that Millar (mark millar I mean) is referring to the rumors that Al & Miles had put up roadblocks to Tom's donning the tights in JLA in return for consideration to work in WB features.

Now, if that's what he's referring to, was that really *just* a rumor then?

Or is this an indication that Goughlar had indeed extorted WB into giving them work in return for playing nice with Tom's sked?

Things that make you want to go Hhhhmmmmmm.......

:ninja:

Or could it be he's reading the rumors along with everyone else and just believes them?

[Showtime]

Dont make fun of Dawson!

[Migu-EL]

Dont make fun of Dawson!

Yeah, he always had perfect hair and the chicks on the creek digged him.:oldrazz:

[heliorei]

People put entirely too much stock into what Millar says about Superman. His Superman credits arent exactly earth-shattering. I like Red Son and all, but its an elseworlds and you can get away with a lot in those. I'd be much more excited if Geoff Johns, Mark Waid, or Jeph Loeb was saying these things.

I agree with you. Mark millar isn't exactly a top wrtiter IMHO. The Superman red son was a fantastic story and had an amazing end but that idea to end that story was all Grant Morrison.

If the writer was one of these: Geoff Johns, Mark Waid, Jeph Loeb, Greg Rucka or Grant Morrison, it would be awesome, especially if the writer was Grant Morrison.

[Showtime]

Yeah, he always had perfect hair and the chicks on the creek digged him.:oldrazz:

Damn straight. It wasn't called Pacey's Pond! :cmad:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Damn straight. It wasn't called Pacey's Pond! :cmad:

Pacey was the best character before he got he hots for Joey. The show went down hill when the Pacey & Dawnson friendship ended

[TheComicbookKid]

I post over at Millarworld. Mark Millar hates Smallville.

[triplet]

I post over at Millarworld. Mark Millar hates Smallville.


Interesting...

*strokes chin thoughtfully*

[mellyM]

I post over at Millarworld. Mark Millar hates Smallville.

Then he sucks, what is there to hate about Smallville?

[triplet]

Then he sucks, what is there to hate about Smallville?

LOL!

Quoted for Truth!

:D :up:

[Serene]

Then he sucks, what is there to hate about Smallville?

LMAO! I was going to try and think of something.. diplomatic.. to say, but I'll just go with yours instead. :D :up: *birthdaygirlpowah!*

[Showtime]

Pacey was the best character before he got he hots for Joey. The show went down hill when the Pacey & Dawnson friendship ended

It went down hill when they went to college.

[MJZ]

Millar does despise Smallville but he is still a brilliant writer. His version of Superman is night and day compared to SV's.

[mellyM]

LOL!

Quoted for Truth!

:D :up:

LMAO! I was going to try and think of something.. diplomatic.. to say, but I'll just go with yours instead. :D :up: *birthdaygirlpowah!*

lol, no need to beat around the bush. He shouldn't be hating on SV:)

[Prison Mike]

so that answers the question. Millar was obviously talking about G&M with that Dawson reference. Does that mean Gough and Millar were in talks for MOS or something since Mark Millar doesn't want them "to do it instead"?

[ZIPBAGS]

FYI-Someone posted a story about what the real first 14 pages of the JL script. If true. Its so much better than that supposed 14 page script from a
week ago.

[triplet]

Cool...

This is much better:

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&catid=20&id=2586#2581


Our JLA source has returned. After listening to the rumors that there had been a leaked draft of the first 14 pages of the Justice League of America screenplay floating somewhere out there on the internet, our spy laughed and said that the real JLA script was nothing like that. In fact, our dude/ette on the inside told us precisely what happens in the first 14 pages of the authentic Justice League of America screenplay and wanted you to know what you can expect in the real deal.

Whereas the fake script opened on Green Lantern flying a jet fighter, the real Justice League of America script begins on a much grander and somber note: Superman walking on the rooftop of a cathedral. He is there as well as five other members of the Justice League (Aquaman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter) because they are paying their respects at a funeral, grieving over the loss of someone that we don’t know as of yet. If you’re thinking that the deceased is Batman because he’s not in attendance, you’re wrong. The funeral is a public event and as such Batman doesn’t show up until after all of the cameras have gone away. For now, the rest of the League is under the media spotlight, each of them showing their respects for the deceased by wearing black. For example, instead of the his traditional red and blue costume Superman is wearing an alternative black-on-black costume. Maybe it will be like the black costume that Superman wore after returning from the dead in the comic books.

And then we cut back to six days earlier in Central City…

Detective Barry Allen and his wife, Iris, are eating lunch at a superhero themed restaurant. The pair are watching a television showing Wonder Woman addressing the United Nations. Barry makes a comment clearly showing an infatuation for Wonder Woman to which Iris promptly shoots him down.

And let’s stop it right there for a moment and examine what we just learned: The Flash in the Justice League movie is married. That throws a big monkey wrench into the recent news that younger actors were auditioning for the part of The Flash, doesn’t it? I can’t imagine seeing a 19-year-old Barry Allen married in a JLA movie, can you? Of course not.

But it all will make sense by the end of the film, trust me.

From here we cut to the introduction of the Brother Eye satellite, a sleek, state-of-the-art surveillance satellite in orbit and owned by Wayne Industries. Batman sits in the Batcave, watching Barry and Iris enjoy their lunch. We see him adjust the controls and the image shifts to architect John Stewart (a.k.a. Green Lantern) sitting in his office unaware that he is being spied on. Batman flicks the dial and the image shifts again to show us Wonder Woman in the U.N., then to Aquaman and finally to the Martian Manhunter under his human disguise as Central City Detective John Jones. Batman hears a noise behind him and closes down the interface just before Alfred appears to speak with him about Bruce Wayne’s upcoming business meeting with business tycoon Maxwell Lord.

There you go Bat-fans: Alfred is in the JLA movie—or at least he’s in the script right now.

As Batman and Alfred depart the Batcave they don’t see the computer switch itself back on or the override for the Brother Eye program accessed remotely. Whomever is using the device resumes spying on Detective Jones/Martian Manhunter.

Jones is working police cases at the station when someone drops off a package on his desk. Upon opening the parcel a fine white powder explodes in his face. Zooming in we see that the powder are actually zillions of some kind of molecular-sized robots, nanobots. They settle on the Detective’s skin and the result is that the Manhunter loses control of his ability to change his shape. As shocked coworkers gaze on him we see Jones change his shape into a beautiful woman wearing a bikini and then into a mountain gorilla followed by a small child, a python and then into a ball of fire before he finally is able to regain some control and morph into the humanoid green guise we know as Martian Manhunter. Distraught and fearing for the safety of the others J’onn J’onzz flies off at great speed heading for a location in Colorado. Barry Allen manages to get a glimpse of the Manhunter streaking through the sky and has to excuse himself from Iris as The Flash rushes off after J’onn.

And so ends page 14 of the script.

Of course I had a million questions to ask the source and I got the answers that I wanted. They were very candid about what happens to the JLA on page 44...and on page 73...and at the end of the script. The same huge spoiler/twist, the one I referred to as an “Empire”, is still in there and I won’t be the one that blows it. In fact there are a couple of surprises that haven’t been mentioned by me or anyone else yet which tells me that the people making the JLA movie want to surprise us. I say let them have that opportunity. Will you get to see plenty of superhero fights? Sure including battles between OMAC robots and League members. The ending is pretty eventful and what goes down has major ramifications on the lives of at least two Leaguers. I’m pretty sure that some of the fanbase of one particular JLA superhero is going to be angry over what happens at the conclusion of the story regarding a heavy decision that the superhero(ine) has to make that comes as a suggestion from one of the film’s villains. Yes, I did say villains, plural.

The closest superhero movie that we’ve seen to this JLA movie, as its laid out in the screenplay, is probably the first X-Men except there’s no room for introductions to the League heroes. We pick up the story right away and so the audience has to but who Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern and the rest of the team are. There are small character building moments that can serve as background information on some of the League’s lesser known heroes, like Martian Manhunter, but there no room to recount Superman’s origin or how the League formed. They are already assembled at the start of this film and have been working together for some time as evidenced by their presence in the world.

Thanks to our source for keeping us informed and giving us hope that this movie has the potential to be a major superhero movie event. If you want to know more, show us by getting involved in the talkback below. Maybe we can persuade our source to let loose with more info…

[AgentPat]

Millar does despise Smallville but he is still a brilliant writer. His version of Superman is night and day compared to SV's.This interests me, and it's on topic - sort of - with this thread.

I've read Red Son. It was entertaining on a very else-worlds level. But I read it quite a while ago, so I don't remember too many specifics of style, just the general story, which is fine for discussion purposes, I think. Anyway, the question: Besides the respective character ages and the lack of suit, and without labeling it good or bad, what are some of the differences between Mark Millar's version of Superman and SV's? I realize we're talking about different times in the character's life, and "SV's Clark isn't Superman yet," yada yada. I'm just curious about characterization. :)

[AgentPat]

Cool...

This is much better:

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&catid=20&id=2586#2581

...If you want to know more, show us by getting involved in the talkback below. Maybe we can persuade our source to let loose with more info….WHOA!!! That sounds AWESOME!!! Goin' NOW!

OMGOMGOMG.... LOL

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/flash.gif

[OobeDoobBenubi]

WHOA!!! That sounds AWESOME

I can see why the WB went nuts & fast tracked the movie faster then a speeding bullet if that is the real deal

[Zorex]

Cool...

This is much better:

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&catid=20&id=2586#2581That sounds really, really cool :up:

[bootspark]

JLA is going to be the greatest Superhero film ever made, IF that new script report is real. Those first 14 pages sound better than anything in SR, any Batman film, Spiderman film, X-Men film. Better than anything.

This is the film Tom Welling MUST be apart of. WB....are you listening?

OK. Im excited again :) We have a great director, script, DP, WETA doing effects and costumes. All we need is a pitch-perfect cast, and we'll be ready.

[AgentPat]

The script spoilers are flowing like crazy at IESB right NOW, so read 'em now before Robert deletes 'em LOL. He's threatened to do so if they get out of hand. I'm riding the refresh button every 30 seconds as we speak LOLOL!!! ;)

[Zorex]

And the fact that the script reportedly doesn't delve into the heroes' origins (certainly not Superman's) leaves a lot of room open for TW to play him. Any arguments that his having played young Clark Kent for 6 full seasons would somehow interfere with him portraying the adult version of the character would hold a lot less stock, I think. Backgrounds for each character would be very much for each audience member to fill in.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I think I can wait LOL. This movie is a fan boys wet dream why would anyone want to spoil this & just knowing the first 14 pages is this good is good enough for me. Bring on leaked costume pictures.

[AgentPat]

Oooo... I'm grabbing this one 'cause it's too good to not save:

The main plot behind this film is that someone wants revenge, revenge against the Dark Knight.

payback for something that Batman has done in the past and now he will pay dearly.

Maxwell Lord, Brother Eye, its all about setting up Batman. The heroes will turn against him.

:wow: :woot:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Pray to god every ****ing night that they get the casting right at least for the big 3. They know they will never please everyone but the big 3 is the most important for this movie.

[bootspark]

And the fact that the script reportedly doesn't delve into the heroes' origins (certainly not Superman's) leaves a lot of room open for TW to play him.

QFT! TW could play Superman without any baggage from Smallville.

[Paradoxium]

Sounds like Brother Eye + Tower of Babel. Guy says its not Ra's - misdirection. Does he say its connected to the BB continuity of characters or from the comics....? Because if it is based on film characters there aren't a lot of choices. It's Joker, Two-Face, Scarecrow, Carmine Falcone, Earle or Talia...

[bootspark]

Pat, can you picture TW playing Superman in that opening shot from the script! :) ICONIC!

[Zorex]

Oooo... I'm grabbing this one 'cause it's too good to not save:

The main plot behind this film is that someone wants revenge, revenge against the Dark Knight.

payback for something that Batman has done in the past and now he will pay dearly.

Maxwell Lord, Brother Eye, its all about setting up Batman. The heroes will turn against him.

:wow: :woot:
Yeah, that sound particularly fun.

[bootspark]

Robert confirmed this "new" script is TRUE!

[AgentPat]

More...

There's three main villains: Max Lord and Ra's al Ghul are the first two. The third is the one referenced in my last spoiler post. He hasn't been named yet, but it's not Darkseid. Also, Robert just confirmed all of these spoilers are the REAL deal. OMG, hallelujah!!!

Now, for the love of all that's holy, just get the casting right. I will be sooooo freakin' depressed if they screw the pooch again, especially this time since the story sounds awesome so far.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Robert confirmed this "new" script is TRUE!

At least the script is something we dont have to worry about anymore :wow:

[AgentPat]

And the fact that the script reportedly doesn't delve into the heroes' origins (certainly not Superman's) leaves a lot of room open for TW to play him. Any arguments that his having played young Clark Kent for 6 full seasons would somehow interfere with him portraying the adult version of the character would hold a lot less stock, I think....QFT! TW could play Superman without any baggage from Smallville.I think I'll cry if it's not TW, but I'm prepared for it if they cast somebody else. I already know who I don't want - Routh goes w/o saying!!!! And not for nothing, but so does Cavill. Blech. The Friday Night Light's guy is utterly bland, and Cavs is FAR too old. Sorry, MJZ. Not for me. A complete unknown... *sigh* Yeah, yeah, Chris Reeve and all that jazz. Whatever. I've found that it's VERY rare to see lightning strike twice in Hollywood.

Superman needs to be special. REAL special. This is sooooooooooo completely hinging on casting for me right now. :(

[Paradoxium]

I don't want Routh, but I would love to see him get cast just to see your reaction :D:up:

[Syncos]

I don't want Routh, but I would love to see him get cast just to see your reaction :D:up:

The WB does -not- want to incur the wrath of Pat.



...... Trust me.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I don't want Routh, but I would love to see him get cast just to see your reaction :D:up:

The females here would not post for months or years because they would be to busy screaming in the back yard & then eventually go psychotic & taken to a nut house & the only words they would say is "Damn you Routh" 24 / 7

[AgentPat]

Ut oh... potential bad news. Prepare yourselves....

I haven't heard much about casting, we did hear about the whole Tom Welling thing, that was really being talked about, I don't know what happen, I don't think that TW is going to be part of JLA.

Common is pretty much locked down for Green Lantern, Winstead is a contender for WW.

I don't think that fans will have to wait for a casting announcement for a very long. Expect something this week or next, not 11/18.

Someone just sent me a message asking about how good my sources are, fair question. Where do you think Robert gets most of his information and scripts?

[Prison Mike]

PLEASE let Tom be Superman, PLEASE!!!!

[Paradoxium]

I think Tom Welling is too old to play Superman :D

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/318/bd1991zp3.jpg

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Hmmmmmm

Common is pretty much locked down for Green Lantern - I can get used to this guy as Stewart.
Winstead is a contender for WW. I hope Winstead gets WW. Out of all of the rumored ones she is the best choice

[triplet]

Pat, can you picture TW playing Superman in that opening shot from the script! :) ICONIC!

It will be a beautiful thing.... he looks good in black.

:D

I'm going back to sacrificing chickens.

[Legend Killer]

Cool...

This is much better:

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&catid=20&id=2586#2581

Now thats more like it! :up:

As for GL....

Common? WTF, they seriously couldn't find anyone better?

[AgentPat]

Common is pretty much locked down for Green Lantern - I can get used to this guy as Stewart.I don't know him from a hole in the wall, but as I've said before, I don't know GL either, so I have no opinion about him either way. I hope he can act.

Winstead is a contender for WW. I hope Winstead gets WW. Out of all of the rumored ones she is the best choiceThis one I DO have an opinion on, and that's meh. I don't think Winstead comes CLOSE to looking like WW, and her casting is a great big strike one for me...

This rollercoaster ride is horrible - going from such highs to such lows. *sigh*

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I don't think Winstead comes CLOSE to looking like WW, and her casting is a great big strike one for me...


Well for me like I said out of all of the rumored ladies for me shes the best one

[bootspark]

I might be in the minority here, but I still believe that TW is cast or will be cast as Superman.

IMO, its not over till WB sends out a press release. :)