Tom Welling as Superman

[Prison Mike]

maybe sometime later tonight he will be able to confirm some casting?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

The fact that Mirko gave Justice League its own forum means that a storm is coming & Welling fans & Superman fans are smack in the middle of it.

[triplet]

Holy cow, SHH just gave us a Justice League forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forums.superherohype.com/forumdisplay.php?f=384

Well it's about freakin' TIME!!! :wow:

That's great but getting into it over there probably is a pointless excercise until the cast is named....

The fact that Mirko gave Justice League its own forum means that a storm is coming & Welling fans & Superman fans are smack in the middle of it.

Quoted for truth...

I think we need to get our battlegear ready, there will be a war over there no doubt.

I am willing to stand up to the worst of them to defend our guy, if he's it that is.

I did it before and I can certainly do it agan.

http://www.knightsedge.com/images/medieval-blued-suit-of-armor-6210.jpg

[avidreader]

That's great but getting into it over there probably is a pointless excercise until the cast is named....

Yeah, the first thread I clicked on just looked like a good excuse to bash Tom. So I left. :O

[KalKai]

Rob is in L.A. right now for some meetings so thats why Rob is silent

Rob has opened a thread on AICN's JLA's spoilers 4 hours ago - http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&id=3026&catid=20

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Rob has opened a thread on AICN's JLA's spoilers 4 hours ago - http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&id=3026&catid=20

He probably signed on from the hotel. Has Rob said hes back yet :huh:

[KalKai]

No but he's still got online access of course.

[ZIPBAGS]

I posted this over on the Justice League section regarding the whole Routh vs Welling debate. Figured it might work here also....

We can do it the easy way....
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/309955/2/istockphoto_309955_rock_paper_scissors.jpg


Or the hard way....
Welling vs. Routh
http://epguides.com/CelebrityDeathmatch/cast.jpg

[triplet]

Yeah, the first thread I clicked on just looked like a good excuse to bash Tom. So I left. :O

True enough.

For me it's best to stay out until the cast is announced. Until then, I don't need the headache.

[Prison Mike]

waiting for any news...

[OobeDoobBenubi]

For me it's best to stay out until the cast is announced. Until then, I don't need the headache.

Thats probably for the best because if Tom Welling is indeed announced as Superman then I highly doubt this thread will stay here. You all will have to bear the wild like everyone else.

waiting for any news...

Everyone is whats everyone doing to pass the time ? Im editing a Supernatural trailer :woot:

[Prison Mike]

I'm just posting in other threads while watching some TV.

[The Incredible Hulk]

if someone does in fact have a list of the cast, what's the point of telling people you have it if you cant tell them what it is, other than to work people up into a frenzy? If Sanchez had a list he'd have at least part of it up on his site so some twit like Harry Knowles doesnt get it and beat him to the punch. We're talking about the same guy that went on national TV with the Welling news back in August.

Think about it, the person to break this big news would have such cred among the fandom and get such an increase in site traffic it'd be insane. There's no reason to sit on it if you have it.

[Prison Mike]

maybe he's confirming the cast again so he doesn't look like a loser if he's wrong...again.

[The Incredible Hulk]

well it's allegedly confirmed outside of 2 characters, so why not leak a couple or at least one of them?

[triplet]

if someone does in fact have a list of the cast, what's the point of telling people you have it if you cant tell them what it is, other than to work people up into a frenzy? If Sanchez had a list he'd have at least part of it up on his site so some twit like Harry Knowles doesnt get it and beat him to the punch. We're talking about the same guy that went on national TV with the Welling news back in August.

Think about it, the person to break this big news would have such cred among the fandom and get such an increase in site traffic it'd be insane. There's no reason to sit on it if you have it.

Maybe he's writing up a big article or maybe it's in with an interview that he's doing?

:confused:

I just want to finally know, one way or another, so we can get off this roller coaster.

[Prison Mike]

maybe he's still in meetings. It's still evening in LA I think. But I don't know why he won't leak some names. Hope it's soon.

[Thunder Emperor]

this wait is damn annoying arrrgh

[bootspark]

I have a feeling that when the cast is announced it will be names out of left field and were not rumored or thought of.

Except for TW as Supes. :)

[ZIPBAGS]

I made this up using a photo slideshow creator. I have no experience with these videos people do. And its my first You Tube upload. I hope you enjoy it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1A6hiFxpik

[Syncos]

I have a feeling that when the cast is announced it will be names out of left field and were not rumored or thought of.

Except for TW as Supes. :)

Then i'm cool with it.

[AgentPat]

I just visited that forum, maybe it was a mistake. From the looks of things already, not a whole lot of love for Tom. Reads like a bunch of highschoolers.
No intelligent life there.LOL! Here's the thing - remember people generally congregate with other like opinionated people. If you have opinions that are in stark contrast to those of the majority, you're probably not going to enjoy conversation there for very long - not unless you're the type of person who enjoys arguing and getting nowhere.

Even in our own little niche, group opinion among SV fans is splintered. If you have strong opinions about one or more characters, chances are there's a BBS somewhere out there where a majority of people posting share your opinion. And most of them will be fairly elitist about it.

Fans are fans, and Superman fans are no different.

Smallville has been on the air for seven years. Some Superman fans love the show. Some hate it. I've never met a Supes' fan that doesn't have an opinion about SV, though interestingly enough, there ARE SV fans that are indifferent to Superman. For example, if you take a stroll over to K-Site, you'll find polls that ask users their opinions of the Superman costume, and if fans want to see it. Not when they want to see it, but if they want to see it. Some users think it looks silly and can't imagine their Clark Kent wearing such a thing. (There's irony in there somewhere.)

SV fans are often seen as the red-headed stepchildren of Superman fandom, and that's why you'll see 'tudes on various Superman specific message boards. For a show that is the longest running live action superhero series ever (not just Superman - but ALL super heroes), it's still not taken very seriously by elitist Superman fans. They say it targets teenyboppers (it doesn't), that it'll be forgotten quickly (it won't), and that very few people even know about it, much less watch it (nonsense!) So the very idea that the star of the show would even be considered for the role of Superman in a film - never mind actually be asked - is ludicrous to these people. And until an announcement is made, that is the opinion you'll continue to see be held.

So, given existing attitudes, here's my predictions for after the announcement:

Welling is not cast in JL:
SV/TW fans who are okay with another actor in the role (provided he's phenomenal) will be fine with it - just like any other fan who wants a good movie despite not getting their cast preference.

SV/TW fans who ONLY wanted to see TW in the role will be bummed and vocal about it. There will be some resentment, but everything should return to "normal" eventually. Technically, nothing will have changed for these people. They had nothing to lose and everything to gain. SV will continue to grace their living rooms every Thursday, this forum will still exist, and discussion about TW as Superman will continue - much as it has done so for years.

Welling is cast in JL:
Picture... downtown Beirut on a warm, summer day. SV fans are going to come out of the woodwork in droves. JL boards from here to Timbuktu are going to swarm with hundreds of "new" fans, and they're going to drive those elitist Superman fans I referenced earlier completely NUTS. :p

^ I'm not kidding. :)



Regardless of what happens, this thread won't move. It's applicable to TW's character in SV since Clark is also Superman - just minus the tights and flights. Another thread would be created in the JL forum for the JL Superman. If that Superman is played by Tom Welling too, so be it. I think the Hype can handle two threads for TW as Superman. The Hype's users... well... that might be a different story. ;)

[Syncos]

LOL! Here's the thing - remember people generally congregate with other like opinionated people. If you have opinions that are in stark contrast to those of the majority, you're probably not going to enjoy conversation there for very long - not unless you're the type of person who enjoys arguing and getting nowhere.

Even in our own little niche, group opinion among SV fans is splintered. If you have strong opinions about one or more characters, chances are there's a BBS somewhere out there where a majority of people posting share your opinion. And most of them will be fairly elitist about it.

Fans are fans, and Superman fans are no different.

Smallville has been on the air for seven years. Some Superman fans love the show. Some hate it. I've never met a Supes' fan that doesn't have an opinion about SV, though interestingly enough, there ARE SV fans that are indifferent to Superman. For example, if you take a stroll over to K-Site, you'll find polls that ask users their opinions of the Superman costume, and if fans want to see it. Not when they want to see it, but if they want to see it. Some users think it looks silly and can't imagine their Clark Kent wearing such a thing. (There's irony in there somewhere.)

SV fans are often seen as the red-headed stepchildren of Superman fandom, and that's why you'll see 'tudes on various Superman specific message boards. For a show that is the longest running live action superhero series ever (not just Superman - but ALL super heroes), it's still not taken very seriously by elitist Superman fans. They say it targets teenyboppers (it doesn't), that it'll be forgotten quickly (it won't), and that very few people even know about it, much less watch it (nonsense!) So the very idea that the star of the show would even be considered for the role of Superman in a film - never mind actually be asked - is ludicrous to these people. And until an announcement is made, that is the opinion you'll continue to see be held.

So, given existing attitudes, here's my predictions for after the announcement:

Welling is not cast in JL:
SV/TW fans who are okay with another actor in the role (provided he's phenomenal) will be fine with it - just like any other fan who wants a good movie despite not getting their cast preference.

SV/TW fans who ONLY wanted to see TW in the role will be bummed and vocal about it. There will be some resentment, but everything should return to "normal" eventually. Technically, nothing will have changed for these people. They had nothing to lose and everything to gain. SV will continue to grace their living rooms every Thursday, this forum will still exist, and discussion about TW as Superman will continue - much as it has done so for years.

Welling is cast in JL:
Picture... downtown Beirut on a warm, summer day. SV fans are going to come out of the woodwork in droves. JL boards from here to Timbuktu are going to swarm with hundreds of "new" fans, and they're going to drive those elitist Superman fans I referenced earlier completely NUTS. :p

^ I'm not kidding. :)



Regardless of what happens, this thread won't move. It's applicable to TW's character in SV since Clark is also Superman - just minus the tights and flights. Another thread would be created in the JL forum for the JL Superman. If that Superman is played by Tom Welling too, so be it. I think the Hype can handle two threads for TW as Superman. The Hype's users... well... that might be a different story. ;)

Quoted for Truth!
and :heart:s

[Prison Mike]

Very insightful Pat!

[Thunder Emperor]

lol hey pat I put out a bet there for a one week ban if Welling is not cast. I am ready to take the fight to the end

[AgentPat]

lol hey pat I put out a bet there for a one week ban if Welling is not cast. I am ready to take the fight to the endBaahaa! You didn't? TE, that's a risky bet y'know? I mean, I re-heeeeely want it to be TW (duh!), but I wouldn't bet a week's ban on it. LOL

That said, I can't see a mod actually BANNING you for a week. I don't think they'd do that. Maybe a voluntary ban from you - like not posting for a week. But that's kinda stupid too. You're too funny. ;)

I think it's great that there's an actual JL forum, but like the DC Film's forum, I won't be posting there much until the announcement. There's WAY too much negativity there right now, and that doesn't float my boat. I want to ENJOY discussing the film, not battle with people over it. So I'll just sit back and wait for something "real" to finally be announced. At least then, we're not arguing things that aren't even confirmed yet. What's the point, y'know? This applies to the casting more than anything.

[Syncos]

lol hey pat I put out a bet there for a one week ban if Welling is not cast. I am ready to take the fight to the end

This is no fight, kid. This is a war. Justice League is just a single battle.
Some fans will never, accept Welling as Superman. It's a never ending struggle.

So tell me soldier..... Are you prepared for war?

[The Incredible Hulk]

LOL! Here's the thing - remember people generally congregate with other like opinionated people. If you have opinions that are in stark contrast to those of the majority, you're probably not going to enjoy conversation there for very long - not unless you're the type of person who enjoys arguing and getting nowhere.

Even in our own little niche, group opinion among SV fans is splintered. If you have strong opinions about one or more characters, chances are there's a BBS somewhere out there where a majority of people posting share your opinion. And most of them will be fairly elitist about it.

Fans are fans, and Superman fans are no different.

Smallville has been on the air for seven years. Some Superman fans love the show. Some hate it. I've never met a Supes' fan that doesn't have an opinion about SV, though interestingly enough, there ARE SV fans that are indifferent to Superman. For example, if you take a stroll over to K-Site, you'll find polls that ask users their opinions of the Superman costume, and if fans want to see it. Not when they want to see it, but if they want to see it. Some users think it looks silly and can't imagine their Clark Kent wearing such a thing. (There's irony in there somewhere.)

SV fans are often seen as the red-headed stepchildren of Superman fandom, and that's why you'll see 'tudes on various Superman specific message boards. For a show that is the longest running live action superhero series ever (not just Superman - but ALL super heroes), it's still not taken very seriously by elitist Superman fans. They say it targets teenyboppers (it doesn't), that it'll be forgotten quickly (it won't), and that very few people even know about it, much less watch it (nonsense!) So the very idea that the star of the show would even be considered for the role of Superman in a film - never mind actually be asked - is ludicrous to these people. And until an announcement is made, that is the opinion you'll continue to see be held.

So, given existing attitudes, here's my predictions for after the announcement:

Welling is not cast in JL:
SV/TW fans who are okay with another actor in the role (provided he's phenomenal) will be fine with it - just like any other fan who wants a good movie despite not getting their cast preference.

SV/TW fans who ONLY wanted to see TW in the role will be bummed and vocal about it. There will be some resentment, but everything should return to "normal" eventually. Technically, nothing will have changed for these people. They had nothing to lose and everything to gain. SV will continue to grace their living rooms every Thursday, this forum will still exist, and discussion about TW as Superman will continue - much as it has done so for years.

Welling is cast in JL:
Picture... downtown Beirut on a warm, summer day. SV fans are going to come out of the woodwork in droves. JL boards from here to Timbuktu are going to swarm with hundreds of "new" fans, and they're going to drive those elitist Superman fans I referenced earlier completely NUTS. :p

^ I'm not kidding. :)



Regardless of what happens, this thread won't move. It's applicable to TW's character in SV since Clark is also Superman - just minus the tights and flights. Another thread would be created in the JL forum for the JL Superman. If that Superman is played by Tom Welling too, so be it. I think the Hype can handle two threads for TW as Superman. The Hype's users... well... that might be a different story. ;)


Excellent post Pat. Another thing to take into account to is that the posters on SHH arent really indicative of the fanbases. It's ashame to say it, but SHH for the most part has the reputation around the internet of being a haven for overly-opinionated, nasty fanboy whiners. It's the reason that you see the reasonable but hardcore fans starting their own separate sites for their particular films.

It's why there is a BlueTights.net to talk about Superman. Every last one of us over there met in the SHH Superman forums but were driven away by the utter insanity that ensued after the Casting Wars ended. The fact that this place is about all heroes also seems to foster a lot of the "fanboy peeing in other fanboy's pools" syndrome that you see to some extent here from our "cousin's" over yonder since its so easy to throw crap over the fence here LOL. The same thing happened with the first Hulk film which gave birth to Hulkmovie.com, and Batman with increase in popularity of BoF. Dont be surprised to see the same with JLA.

Smallvile is a bit of a different animal here in that this place isnt really a lightning rod for the Smallville fandom, that's K-Site's distinction and we tend to get a lot of their "refugees" here. This is one of the few civil boards on here.

The thing I liken it most to is the "official messageboards" of sports teams. When you go on them they tend to be overrun by lunatics and trolls. The best boards to talk about sports, and the ones where you get a true feel for peoples impressions on the team, tend to be the ones run by the fans.

[Syncos]

god. I just tried going back over to the JL boards. It's funny how some people completely flip out when someone posts a picture of Welling.

What's the deal? if someone posted a picture of Routh, you wouldn't see a Smallville fan scream "STOP IT! ROUTH IS NOT SUPERMAN! WAAAAAAAH!"
I just don't get it.

[KalKai]

As a matter of fact Routh is not Superman.. lol.

[TheComicbookKid]

Why are you guys acting like people don't already have an opinion of Welling?He has baggage whether it's good or bad. I talk about Smallville here at school and people laugh and talk about how bad it is. THe day Welling is announced two conversations are going to happen, "What happened to the other guy, what's his name?" and "Isn't that the guy from the tv show?"

[Prison Mike]

Smallvile is a bit of a different animal here in that this place isnt really a lightning rod for the Smallville fandom, that's K-Site's distinction and we tend to get a lot of their "refugees" here. This is one of the few civil boards on here.

Count me as one of the "refugees"! :cmad:

[KalKai]

Why are you guys acting like people don't already have an opinion of Welling?He has baggage whether it's good or bad. I talk about Smallville here at school and people laugh and talk about how bad it is. THe day Welling is announced two conversations are going to happen, "What happened to the other guy, what's his name?" and "Isn't that the guy from the tv show?"

So they'll remember the other guy, but they won't remember his name? LOL.

No, the only thing that's gonna be said is, "Finally".

[TheComicbookKid]

So they'll remember the other guy, but they won't remember his name? LOL.

No, the only thing that's gonna be said is, "Finally".

Sadly, Routh isn't a household name. He'll have Superman attached to his bio for another year or so.

Hate to tell you, but if the reaction I get about Welling is any indication. People won't be going to see him at the theater.

[KalKai]

If you're talking about your school or group of friends that's hardly an indication of anything.

[Syncos]

Sadly, Routh isn't a household name. He'll have Superman attached to his bio for another year or so.

Hate to tell you, but if the reaction I get about Welling is any indication. People won't be going to see him at the theater.

Really? that's strange.

I've never met anyone who dislikes Smallville in day to day life. I've met plenty of people who've never watched an episode. But nobody who dislikes it. I do know a good many people who've been wanting Welling in the suit for a long, long time, though.

[TheComicbookKid]

If you're talking about your school or group of friends that's hardly an indication of anything.

Considering I'm apart of the age group that this movie is targeting. It does. I don't think Welling will repel people, but they aren't going to get up to go see him. I can't believe how many times i've had the "I used to watch it until I realized it was just Dawson Creek" conversation and have to keep my mouth shut.

Part of what JL has going for it is the piece of the pie idea. Don't like Welling, but i do want to see Flash or WW. Just pick a slice and enjoy the movie.

[KalKai]

Different views, but..

considering that you have no plans to watch JL I don't see how this is any relevant actually.. lol. :)

[TheComicbookKid]

Really? that's strange.

I've never met anyone who dislikes Smallville in day to day life. I've met plenty of people who've never watched an episode. But nobody who dislikes it. I do know a good many people who've been wanting Welling in the suit for a long, long time, though.


That's the same thing I said about SR. I never met anyone that hated it. The only complaint i heard was " I want to see Superman fight someone." The movie was ok to them. Not Batman and Robin like some say.

I'm a big fan of Smallville, but it's kind of embarassing.

[TheComicbookKid]

Different views, but..

considering that you have no plans to watch JL I don't see how this is any relevant actually.. lol. :)


DVD, baby. I do want to see WW and Flash.

[AgentPat]

No, the only thing that's gonna be said is, "Finally".I've heard that. I've brought up the subject with non suspecting "victims." Honestly, my experience has been: "that makes sense," and "why didn't they do that the first time?' [cast Welling as Superman in the film.] My sister-in-laws fiancé is a HUGE Batman fan. He's not big on Superman at ALL! Doesn't hate him or anything, he's just indifferent. Even HE has said "that's what I *thought* they'd do."

If you look at casting Welling as Superman from outside the box - I know it's hard because we're decidedly IN the box - it makes "sense" to a non fan and general audience. They know SV is this show about "young Superman," so they think why wouldn't the studio use "that kid" in the film too? THESE are the statement I've heard from people - total non-fans with no real interest in a Superman or Justice League film outside of something "cool" to see when it comes out. They don't give two poops about the mythology or how the characters are "treated." They just want to have fun at the movies. THESE are the people that Warner Bros. is targeting. To argue that fact is like pissing in the wind: fruitless - and a completely stupid endeavor. LOL ;) :p

[Zing79]

Considering I'm apart of the age group that this movie is targeting. It does. I don't think Welling will repel people, but they aren't going to get up to go see him. I can't believe how many times i've had the "I used to watch it until I realized it was just Dawson Creek" conversation and have to keep my mouth shut.

Part of what JL has going for it is the piece of the pie idea. Don't like Welling, but i do want to see Flash or WW. Just pick a slice and enjoy the movie.
Before I say another word, please describe what age group you are speaking of.

[AgentPat]

Before I say another word, please describe what age group you are speaking of.:D

[Sits and waits.]


http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/popcorn.gif

[triplet]

Count me as one of the "refugees"!

I review for KryponSite and I don't hardly ever post on that forum.

I think that probably speaks volumes in and of itself.

So they'll remember the other guy, but they won't remember his name? LOL.

No, the only thing that's gonna be said is, "Finally".

Well, for Tom I think it's either love him or hate him.

I think most people who don't think he's a good actor either have never seen the show or aren't really paying attention when they do.

I honestly believe (if he gets it) that once Tom pulls on the tights on the big screen, he'll prove to everyone how good he really is.

The OMAC storyline is a pretty dark one. You got Maxwell Lord mind-controlling Superman to turn him against his friends with the intent to kill them all.

That's pretty dark and we've all seen how much Tom seems to love doing darker stories. Some of his best acting has come from episodes where Clark isn't himself: Labyrinth, all the Red-K episodes, Transference, Splinter, Blank, Bizarro...

Usually it's those episodes that are the ones that have Tom's detractors say "he did pretty well," even if only reluctantly.

Even ones where Clark is himself but that have been darker, Reckoning & Vengeance for example, he seems to shine brighter.

If he gets this part, with a seemingly crazed Superman out to kill his friends, I am convinced that Tom Welling will absolutely own the role.

:heart: :heart: :heart:

I am convinced that finally people will see how good he is.

:super: :super: :super:

I just hope it's enough to get more people onto his side but he will probably never please everyone even if he does totally nail the part.

:(

[KalKai]

You know, the "I have met or the people I know" arguments don't make any sense, it's OK to get different perspectives from different age groups and all, but I wanna look at the bigger picture here, I'm not gonna take into consideration what someone says on a message board about his friends or what his parents think about this or that, be it positive or negative.. it's just irrelevant.

At the end, we're all AT THIS POINT FOR A REASON, that speaks for itself.

[bootspark]

That's the same thing I said about SR. I never met anyone that hated it.

You just met someone that absolutely HATES every single second of SR. Except for the opening and closing credits. Everything else was crap, crap, crap. :)

[The Incredible Hulk]

You know, the "I have met or the people I know" arguments don't make any sense, it's OK to get different perspectives from different age groups and all, but I wanna look at the bigger picture here, I'm not gonna take into consideration what someone says on a message board about his friends or what his parents think about this or that, be it positive or negative.. it's just irrelevant.

At the end, we're all AT THIS POINT FOR A REASON, that speaks for itself.

I hear ya. The people who dislike Welling always seem to talk to everyone else that does. It's like when any movie unspools, the lovers are always in theaters where the people cheer, and haters are always in the theaters where people walk out or boo and throw their sno caps at the screen. They're ALL lying.

[DvilDog]

Yeah according to ratings about h million wouldn't mind him in the suit

[ZIPBAGS]

All this hate elsewhere is why I only posted the link to my JL promo here. :)

Any news from anyone???

[bootspark]

Robert Sanchez has posted twice in the past hour.....

Everyone is asking him to post the cast list.....he keeps sidestepping the answer. Asking if the site should change the layout of the board...yada, yada, yada.....

VERY SOON FOLKS......:)

And I mean like we are going to know SOOOOON.

[bootspark]

Pat, get your popcorn and crowpie ready.....

[ZIPBAGS]

C'mon people...Keep up the good thoughts!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1A6hiFxpik

[The Incredible Hulk]

I doubt you'll hear anything over a weekend.

[bootspark]

That doesnt mean he cant type up what he knows....:)

[Prison Mike]

C'mon people...Keep up the good thoughts!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1A6hiFxpik

:up:

[ZIPBAGS]

And all through the boards...Not a creature was stirring not even a mouse.

;)

G'night all. Hopefully, I will awake to news of Welling cast as Supes. :D

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/news.gif

I am going to answer a few questions that have been sent to me via email or by the IESB mail system or posted on these boards.

Do I have a cast list?

No

Is there a cast list?

Not an official list

Do I have an un-official list?

Partial

Can I talk about?

No, not yet

Why?

Because I can lose friendships over it.

Do I have the final script?

Very close to it, Mr. E tells me that to expect a complete script review very, very soon.

Will IESB post the script review?

Don’t know, we have been warned by WB not to review The Dark Knight or any of their films that are in production. The script reviews that we do on WB properties have not been officially green lit as been the case with the Clash of the Titans script review a few months back.

If there is no publicist attached to JLA by the time Mr. E delivers a script review we are good to go. If a publicist has been assigned we are screwed and risk getting blacklisted by the studio if we post such review.


Is Teresa Palmer Wonder Woman?

I was told as of 5 days ago that MEW was the leading contender but things do change.

Is Brandon Routh part of JLA?

Nope, he told me during the Scream Awards that he was never approached plus he also told me that the other comic book project, Dylan Dog, is not green lit either, just in case you guys care.

Is Chris Nolan pissed off about JLA and not going to do Batman 3?

Not only is Chris Nolan pissed off but also producers Greg Silverman and Charles Roven, they have been pissed for months about the whole Talia / Ra‘s Al Ghul/ storyline.

JLA was written with Christian Bale and Brandon Routh in mind but once the Nolan camp made it clear that they wanted nothing to do with an ensemble film at this time WB had no other choice but realize that they were going to have to recast Batman. So their reasoning was if they need to recast Bats then they will also recast Supes.


Like I have said in the past, Jeff Robinov and Dan Lin are not a fans of Superman Returns and there was initial thought that if a Bale/Routh Justice League film was done it would help re-invigorate the Superman Franchise and set up a return of a Bryan Singer directed The Man of Steel.

There was interest from the WB people to use Bryan Singer since he signed his very lucrative deal to direct the sequel. If he gets fired from TMOS, WB will have to pay him a lot of money. If he quits from the TMOS then they don’t have to pay him squat.

Something else to think about, does WB really want to piss off Bryan Singer considering that he has been asked to testify in the Superman/Siegel/WB lawsuit? I think not.


So with Bale/Nolan out and knowing that you were going to use a new Bats in JLA that is where Tom Welling came in, for a better part of the last 4-5 years there has been talks at WB about doing a Smallville film but with Bryan Singer casting Routh for Superman Returns that made the possibility a long shot. But with Justice League on the table the idea came back of getting Tom to play Supes on the big screen.

Is Tom Welling going to play Superman in Justice League in JLA?

Emi has reasons to believe that he is but I do not, something happen, not sure what but someone/something threw a wrench in the process of getting Welling in JLA.

[KBX]

Is Tom Welling going to play Superman in Justice League in JLA?

Emi has reasons to believe that he is but I do not, something happen, not sure what but someone/something threw a wrench in the process of getting Welling in JLA.

IF that person is Gough/Millar than there is now reason to believe that he will be in this movie....

[KBX]

Is Chris Nolan pissed off about JLA and not going to do Batman 3?

Not only is Chris Nolan pissed off but also producers Greg Silverman and Charles Roven, they have been pissed for months about the whole Talia / Ra‘s Al Ghul/ storyline.

There are millions and millions of JL stories they could have done. Why go with the character they already used in WBs only successful comic book movie right now?

[Prison Mike]

Damn I hope Welling is cast as Supes. If Gough/Millar had anything to do with him not being cast, I'll be pissed (but I'll get over it since there's still Smallville).

[Prison Mike]

who's more reliable? Emijayne or Sanchez?

[ariellem]

^ the AP wire.

[triplet]

Here is Sanchez's latest in answer to my question about whether the 18th was it for when we'd hear:

EMI is the one who mentioned November 18th and that coincided with Wizard World Texas. I have not heard that from any of my sources and I really find it hard to believe that they would stay quiet until then, but then again EMI does have reliable sources.

The big thing about this town is that everybody talks, if I was a betting man and would think that since casting is done, at least the major roles, something will leak officially between now and next week.

I am going to be working overtime in the next seven days, I am going to every Hollywood function that I can get myself invited too because that is where alot of these stories leak. You get an agent/manager/publicist/exec drunk and they will sing like a canary.

Starting Sunday I will be at the Bee Movie Premiere, Monday I will be at the Family Guy 100 Episode Party at Social Hollywood, Tuesday at the Pixar Ratatouille DVD Release Party at Social Hollywood and so on and so on.

News is coming, I can feel it. Every outlet in Hollywood is working hard to crack this cast. I just need a couple confirmations and a couple actors, I do think that Common is a lock as John Stewart.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&catid=20&id=3145#3144

[AgentPat]

^ the AP wire.Baahaaahahah!! :D :up:

[Gmanofsteel]

I don't trust either, I'm waiting for the cold hard facts :)

[Prison Mike]

so it doesn't look like we'll get any info this weekend? If that's the case, I'm off to bed.

[AgentPat]

Robert doesn't mince words. I hope the censors catch this, 'cause I'm not editing it...

I have always said that if Brandon Routh wasn't going to play Supes in Justice League then you would have to cast Tom Welling.

Its almost like getting Smallville Blue Balls, fans have been getting teased for years and there is no pay off with Welling?

That would make the most sense but then again we are assuming that Hollywood makes any ****ing sense.

like this stupid ass WGA strike, they could fix this if only this industry wasn't so greedy.

[AgentPat]

so it doesn't look like we'll get any info this weekend? If that's the case, I'm off to bed.Yeah, me too. I'm bushed. Nighters folks! :D

[Gmanofsteel]

night all!

[Serene]

Hate to tell you, but if the reaction I get about Welling is any indication. People won't be going to see him at the theater.

That's the same thing I said about SR. I never met anyone that hated it.


Despite KalK's and Hulk's valid arguments about why anecdotal evidence is ****e, I will say that even today a few co-workers of mine who aren't SV fans were asking me if Tom had been cast in 'that new superhero movie' yet. They don't know or care bupkus about the JLA, they just know Tom is Superman on TV and since they thought SR was a snore-fest, they're hoping to see Tom take over as Supes. They love the guy, and they don't even watch the show. Yep, just because he's that hot. I guarantee most of the women I work with will gladly pay to see him on the big screen as long as the movie isn't completely panned. They'll take their kids and pretend they're doing it for them. ;)

And on the other end of the scale is my daughter's high school age group of friends who have grown up with Tom as their Superman. I'm talking girls and guys. My D and her friends didn't see SR in the theaters, no interest whatsoever. But she'll see the JL movie, if Tom's in it. Otherwise - it'll be meh. She has no clue who the JL are except for what she's seen on SV. She asked me if Kara was Wonder Woman. SERIOUSLY.

I think people in forums like this tend to overestimate the interest and knowledge that the general public has about superheroes. They're just looking to be entertained.


I'm a big fan of Smallville, but it's kind of embarassing.
That's... really sad.

[Migu-EL]

My Sister in law's boyfriend told me that he was going to see SR when he first heard about it until he found out that Welling wasn't playing the part of Supes. His actual words were, he thought it was stupid that "the guy from Smallville wasn't cast as Superman. Mind you he's not a a huge Superman fan and doesn't even watch SV. To me that alone speaks voulmes.

[MJZ]

If this silly movie screws us out of a 3rd Nolan Batman film expect an uproar. :cmad:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If this silly movie screws us out of a 3rd Nolan Batman film expect an uproar. :cmad:

I would say it depends on how well the new Batman is liked.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

The cast announcement will be way before Nov 18th. Possibly next week.

Unfotunately, Welling is not Superman and Reynolds is not Flash.

That's all I can say for now.

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3998901&folder=0

Teresa better not be Wonder Woman

[Whiteflag]

Despite KalK's and Hulk's valid arguments about why anecdotal evidence is ****e, I will say that even today a few co-workers of mine who aren't SV fans were asking me if Tom had been cast in 'that new superhero movie' yet. They don't know or care bupkus about the JLA, they just know Tom is Superman on TV and since they thought SR was a snore-fest, they're hoping to see Tom take over as Supes. They love the guy, and they don't even watch the show. Yep, just because he's that hot. I guarantee most of the women I work with will gladly pay to see him on the big screen as long as the movie isn't completely panned. They'll take their kids and pretend they're doing it for them. ;)

And on the other end of the scale is my daughter's high school age group of friends who have grown up with Tom as their Superman. I'm talking girls and guys. My D and her friends didn't see SR in the theaters, no interest whatsoever. But she'll see the JL movie, if Tom's in it. Otherwise - it'll be meh. She has no clue who the JL are except for what she's seen on SV. She asked me if Kara was Wonder Woman. SERIOUSLY.

I think people in forums like this tend to overestimate the interest and knowledge that the general public has about superheroes. They're just looking to be entertained.



:up:

Many people that know I'm a Superman/Smallville fan kept asking me why Tom wasn't playing Superman in SR. They didn't understand why they had to cast another actor for the role, when they already had a succesful and great looking Superman. I'm sure those people will be baffled to learn that Tom isn't going to be in a JL film and a different actor, not even BR, gets the part, if that's the case. That wouldn't make sense to them, not only to the Tom/SV fans. Because it's true that we tend to forget that most potential viewers are not fanboys/girls who get in forums to discuss a TV show, a movie or an actor.

[Whiteflag]

The cast announcement will be way before Nov 18th. Possibly next week.

Unfotunately, Welling is not Superman and Reynolds is not Flash.

That's all I can say for now.

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3998901&folder=0

Teresa better not be Wonder Woman

Thanks.

Okay. That's it then.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Thanks.

Okay. That's it then.

Hellboy Junior better not be Superman. I will be open minded with another choice just not with him :o

[Zing79]

The cast announcement will be way before Nov 18th. Possibly next week.

Unfotunately, Welling is not Superman and Reynolds is not Flash.

That's all I can say for now.

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3998901&folder=0

Teresa better not be Wonder Woman
And with this, we can finally once and for all put the idea of Welling as Superman to bed. It will not happen in JLA, and it will not happen ever. We need to let it go.

Accept the fact WB doesn't give a flying f what we want, and never will. The second we all do this, the better.

[dark_b]

And with this, we can finally once and for all put the idea of Welling as Superman to bed. It will not happen in JLA, and it will not happen ever. We need to let it go.

Accept the fact WB doesn't give a flying f what we want, and never will. The second we all do this, the better.so WB must now listen to SV fans from SHH?

[Mandrill]

The cast announcement will be way before Nov 18th. Possibly next week.

Unfotunately, Welling is not Superman and Reynolds is not Flash.

That's all I can say for now.

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3998901&folder=0

Teresa better not be Wonder Woman


:csad:

[AgentPat]

And with this, we can finally once and for all put the idea of Welling as Superman to bed. It will not happen in JLA, and it will not happen ever. We need to let it go.

Accept the fact WB doesn't give a flying f what we want, and never will. The second we all do this, the better.LOL! You sound bitter, Zing. ;)

I was prepared for this for weeks, so no surprise from this peanut gallery. Now it'll be onto seeing who IS cast. If it's the Friday Night Lights dude - Palmer something - no thanks. I know he's like 30ish, but he aint no Superman. Same goes for Hell Boy, though I'm pretty sure that rumor was killed. The film's plot sounds awesome, but if they try to pull this off with a teenaged-looking cast, I personally won't be interested - not unless they make it into a comedy like Sky High or something. I enjoyed that film *because* it mocked superheroes and the whole genre.

Oh well. Life goes on. Remember folks - nothing to lose and everything to gain. NOTHING has changed. :)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Even if the cast choices are not your choices I am sure people will find reasons to see this movie. At most the special effects should be awesome with these 7 characters :woot:

[Mandrill]

Even if the cast choices are not your choices I am sure people will find reasons to see this movie. At most the special effects should be awesome with these 7 characters :woot:

I agree but I wanted

Bale -Batman
Welling =Superman
Reynolds -Flash

and I'm getting none of them.

Oh well maybe when they do a solo Superman movie Welling might get a chance.

[AgentPat]

The latest from IESB:

I have finally received a nearly full cast list. Contrary to what I said last night, those of us with this information are being asked not to release yet. This will not be news to most of you who have been following things, but I am able to tell you three names that will definitely not be on this project: Ryan Reynolds has not been cast as either Flash, TI will not be Green Lantern, and Vincent Chase is not Aquaman. The only casting not on my list, is the Batman role. I hate to leave you with nothing interesting, and I may get in trouble for this but let's just say that one name associated with a villain in this film recently shone in a Woody Allen film called Match Point. I will not be online again this weekend, so I will assume you will get the rest of this (sans Batman casting) from Robert.Hmmm. She's not ruling out Welling?

Uh... okay?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Who the heck is that :huh: & wow the WB is being tight with the casting getting out & I just want assurance that Teresa is not Wonder Woman at this point heh.

[KalKai]

OK, let's go back for a minute here, Jayne comes out saying she's happy with cast list *wink* *wink*, few hours later she says both Welling & Reynolds are out?

Something is not right here.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

OK, let's go back for a minute here, Jayne comes out saying she's happy with cast list *wink* *wink*, few hours later she says both Welling & Reynolds are out?

Something is not right here.

Also the last word from Robert is that he still believes that Welling is out

[AgentPat]

Who the heck is that :huh: & wow the WB is being tight with the casting getting out.She's somebody that either knows or works with Robert. I forget who she said she was, but she was posting last night with Robert - she just didn't say much.

Let me start by saying I'm convinced Welling is not involved in JL.

Okay, now that that's out of the way, I *am* baffled by them not being allowed (apparently?) to reveal that info. Jayne did, but she said it over at CD. Okay, fair enough. But why not Robert? I know he has different sources than Jayne. Why would *they* not want him to say anything?

There was a post earlier last night on IESB that said peeps at CW (yes, CW!) had NDA for the last month on JL discussion. I didn't think much of it at the time - it made sense, y'know? LOL - but with Welling *not* being in JL, why the bleep would they give a rat's patootie about what's being said about him?

This is REALLY getting bizarre, and I can't help but wonder if there's something else on slow broil in that pizza oven over at Warners. :dry:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

With everybody saying Tuesday is when this will all end I hope that happens :o

[AgentPat]

With everybody saying Tuesday is when this will all end I hope that happens :oWho said Tuesday?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Who said Tuesday?

A few people have been but forgot who. Although we dont know if it will be official or a leak

[Showtime]

The cast announcement will be way before Nov 18th. Possibly next week.

Unfotunately, Welling is not Superman and Reynolds is not Flash.

That's all I can say for now.

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3998901&folder=0

Teresa better not be Wonder Woman

While I do know now that Jayne does have her sources, I think she has been playing this Welling thing out.

[AgentPat]

A few people have been but forgot who. Although we dont know if it will be official or a leakRobert? Jayne? Or just people on the boards?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Robert? Jayne? Or just people on the boards?

If I had to guess Id say it was Jayne but dont quote me on that & looking at the fact that Mirko finally gave Justice League its own forum here that must mean something after using the lame its not a sure movie yet excuse it has to mean something

[triplet]

If this silly movie screws us out of a 3rd Nolan Batman film expect an uproar. :cmad:

It's not going to. Robert said last night that Nolan and Bale are contracted for three films and they will do three.

The cast announcement will be way before Nov 18th. Possibly next week.

Unfotunately, Welling is not Superman and Reynolds is not Flash.

That's all I can say for now.


http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3998901&folder=0


Well, that's it then.

*sigh*

Oh, well.

Stupid Bastards.

[The Incredible Hulk]

The cast announcement will be way before Nov 18th. Possibly next week.

Unfotunately, Welling is not Superman and Reynolds is not Flash.

That's all I can say for now.

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3998901&folder=0

Teresa better not be Wonder Woman

that's amusing, considering she was sure of herself up until a few days ago. Now there's no mention of why she's been wrong the whole time. Just "sorry, Tom isnt Superman."

[OobeDoobBenubi]

At least she can say she didnt go on national TV

[Showtime]

that's amusing, considering she was sure of herself up until a few days ago. Now there's no mention of why she's been wrong the whole time. Just "sorry, Tom isnt Superman."

That's what I don't understand. :csad:

[Showtime]

Robert? Jayne? Or just people on the boards?

I never heard Tuesday?

[unknowndarkness]

What? ...

They wrote this whole JLA thing with Bale/Routh in mind and denied them both when Nolan was being uncooperative?

:|

If the new Batman actor is playing Bale's Batman... that isnt a good sign for Nolan's Batman III either

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If the new Batman actor is playing Bale's Batman... that isnt a good sign for Nolan's Batman III either

Robert said Nolan & Bale has to do Batman 3 wether they want to or not

[Showtime]

Is that necessarily true? Can't they just opt out of the contracts.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Is that necessarily true? Can't they just opt out of the contracts.

Wouldnt the WB have to agree to it which they probably wont

[KalKai]

There wouldn't be any reason for Bale or Nolan to move on to JLA, they've got their own successful franchise up & running, and they want to finish what they've started.

[Showtime]

Who are you even responding to?

[unknowndarkness]

Robert said Nolan & Bale has to do Batman 3 wether they want to or not

Doesnt it allow him to quit 'opt out' and not get paid?

[The Incredible Hulk]

lets see the BO results for TDK before we start worrying about a 3rd film. I have a weird feeling that the public isnt going to buy Ledger as the Joker...

however if Bale and Nolan are contracted, there's pretty much nothing they can do about it.

[Showtime]

I don't think DK is going to to make that much more than Begins did personally, but you never know.

[Mandrill]

I would think that WB would have an opt out for a 3rd Batman just to cover their bases so I would be surprised if Nolan etc don't have something similar.

That said WB, according to Robert seem to be stuck paying Singer for a 2nd Superman movie unless he quits.

[AgentPat]

I find it amusing everybody is so darn worried about the third Batman film when we haven't even seen the second one yet. :p I know this is going to put me in the dog house with some of you peeps, but if Nolan walks because he gets a hair across his butt over JL - despite Warners being fully supportive of him finishing his Batman franchise - it's no skin off my nose. Cya pal. I like what he did with BB and am looking forward to TDK, but I don't care one way or another if he finishes his franchise or not. Whatever. There's TONS of films out there to enjoy.

As to what's up with Jayne, who knows? I imagine she's just as bummed as anybody who wanted Welling in the JL role, so I'm not going to fault her for jumping the gun - if that's what she did. If she was told one thing when something else was actually happening behind the curtain, that's not her fault. She really likes Welling and got excited over the prospects of him being in the film. Well sheeeeeit, I can relate! So she wanted to share the info. She probably wouldn't have given a rat's arse if it were anybody else.

Now, back to the JL cast. I'm STILL scratching my head what the big deal is in telling people who's NOT on the list. I understand not being allowed to release the names of who HAS been cast, but what's the big deal about revealing who hasn't? Was LadyMarmalade trying to be funny with she ruled out Vinnie Chase? Is her last name "Gough?" LOL

[unknowndarkness]

That said WB, according to Robert seem to be stuck paying Singer for a 2nd Superman movie unless he quits.

Bryan may quit depending on the writer situation (he always works with his own writers, so we'll have to see who WB lets him bring on) and how long they postpone Superman; he probably has other projects he's interested in.

I cant imagine he'd be too happy at the JL thing either.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I would not be surprised if the WB got rid of his writers making him want to quit so they do not have to pay him & they just focus on Justice League. But like Robert also said that the WB asked Singer to have his say in the Superman law suit. They can not afford to piss off Singer. Nolan may be expandable but Singer really isnt.

[unknowndarkness]

Well if WB loses Superman, maybe Siegel/Shuster can sell the character a studio that gives a damn. :)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I recenty saw Return To House On Haunted Hill & the movie sucked but the main star would make a kick ass Wonder Woman

http://www.amandarighetti.net/gallery/albums/public%20appearances/300DVDReleaseAtComicCon-27-7-07/hq008.JPG

[ZIPBAGS]

I was talking to my daughter about the Welling/Supes thing. My wife asked what we were talking about. I said that Welling might be up for the role of Supes in JL. She said that would make sense. This coming from a woman who never watches Smallville or Superman.

I am so pissed at Warner. WTF???

[AgentPat]

But like Robert also said that the WB asked Singer to have his say in the Superman law suit.I'm not sure I get what that has to do with the price of tea in China. Singer can be called to testify whether he wants to or not. He can still be a witness for the defense. Bringing Singer into the equation on that level makes no sense to me at all. Why not use the same excuse they used with Nolan - that they didn't want to jeopardize the Superman franchise? Point is, Warners could have used both Routh AND Bale in Justice League if they really wanted to.

One more question - who is that picture of and why is she in this thread?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Who is that picture of and why is she in this thread?

Just making an observation of a movie I saw recently & thought she would make a good Wonder Woman. She has the height & all

[AgentPat]

Just making an observation of a movie I saw recently & thought she would make a good Wonder Woman. She has the height & allSince the film is apparently cast, it's rather fruitless to suggest more actors for the roles, particularly in this thread. Besides, there's a whole forum for that now. Just sayin'.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Its still fun to cast

[Prison Mike]

I'm officially bummed. At least I have my Smallville DVDs!

[TheLongestDay]

so is it a done deal that the cast will be released before november 18th?

Ive just been watching my season 6 dvds (behind i know) it makes me sad to think they are missing a great oppurtunity with welling

[Showtime]

One more question - who is that picture of and why is she in this thread?

She was from OC I think.

[Prison Mike]

I'm watching my season 6 DVDs also. I saw a little bit of that Biggest Fan featurette, but I admit that I was a little creeped out by the fans. So I turned it off. lol

[TheLongestDay]

I'm watching my season 6 DVDs also. I saw a little bit of that Biggest Fan featurette, but I admit that I was a little creeped out by the fans. So I turned it off. lol

haha me too!:woot:

[Zing79]

so WB must now listen to SV fans from SHH?
Why yes, SV is only watched by 15 people from this forum every Thursday. You're right, I've clearly overestimated its popularity. :whatever:

[Zing79]

LOL! You sound bitter, Zing. ;)

Not bitter, just want this debate to die -- so I'm driving home the point as best I can :)

[Serene]

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3998901&folder=0


Well, that's it then.

*sigh*

Oh, well.

Stupid Bastards.

QFT.
I guess it's time to stick a fork in us, we're apparently done.

TGFSV. :up:

Why yes, SV is only watched by 15 people from this forum every Thursday. You're right, I've clearly overestimated its popularity. :whatever:

16.
Unless you included me already. :D

[AgentPat]

Why yes, SV is only watched by 15 people from this forum every Thursday. You're right, I've clearly overestimated its popularity. :whatever:Wait! Don't forget my mom. She watches the show too. So that makes 17 with Serene. Oooo! If we can scrounge up another 27 people, we could have our own pro football team. :D

Not bitter, just want this debate to die -- so I'm driving home the point as best I can :)HAHAHA!! You don't *really* believe this topic will die, do ya? TW in JL will be tucked away like he was with SR - and then something else will come along. And the ride will continue at that point.

[Syncos]

Wait! Don't forget my mom. She watches the show too. So that makes 17 with Serene. Oooo! If we can scrounge up another 27 people, we could have our own pro football team. :D

HAHAHA!! You don't *really* believe this topic will die, do ya? TW in JL will be tucked away like he was with SR - and then something else will come along. And the ride will continue at that point.

eep. Yeah, i'm sure some random people you find on a Smallville forum would be perfect for a pro football team :dry:

[AgentPat]

BTW... if anybody cares, according to LadyMarmalade at IESB, Jonathan Rhys Meyers has been cast as Maxwell Lord in JL. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ohwell.gif

[AgentPat]

eep. Yeah, i'm sure some random people you find on a Smallville forum would be perfect for a pro football team :dry:Haa! My point exactly.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/overhead.png

LOLOL!!! ;)

[KBX]

BTW... if anybody cares, according to LadyMarmalade at IESB, Jonathan Rhys Meyers has been cast as Maxwell Lord in JL. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ohwell.gif

1. Who is LadyMarmalade?

2. That would be awesome!

[Syncos]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/overhead.png



*looks up, and waits*

i'll catch it eventually!

[Serene]

BTW... if anybody cares, according to LadyMarmalade at IESB, Jonathan Rhys Meyers has been cast as Maxwell Lord in JL. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ohwell.gif

Really?

I like Rhys Meyers as an actor, but he's kind of a shrimpy little thang. Is Maxwell Lord a little guy?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

This guy ?

http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/87/56/0000038756_20070327162213.jpg

[BenReilly]

It's not going to. Robert said last night that Nolan and Bale are contracted for three films and they will do three.

I believe Robert may only be half right. Bale is signed on for a third film but Nolan is not.

[AgentPat]

1. Who is LadyMarmalade?That's a real good question. I *thought* she worked with Sanchez or something, but one of the recent posts on IESB by another user suggests otherwise. I have no clue who she is, but she claims to be in possession of the cast list.

2. That would be awesome!Eh. I don't like him. Maybe that will work for him since he IS playing a villain, but he doesn't do anything for me. The Bale connection gives me a chuckle though LOL.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I thought she said she was not allowed to give out any cast info :huh:

[triplet]

QFT.
I guess it's time to stick a fork in us, we're apparently done.

Yep. Sad but seemingly true.

Bastards.

:(

TGFSV. :up:

Yep.

QFT!

:up:


16.
Unless you included me already. :D

:D

[triplet]

Really?

I like Rhys Meyers as an actor, but he's kind of a shrimpy little thang. Is Maxwell Lord a little guy?

He's a former member of the Justice League in the comics, although not apparently in this film.

His power is mental so he doesn't need to be a big guy.

This guy ?

http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/87/56/0000038756_20070327162213.jpg

Personally, I don't like him much. He wasn't all that in Bend it Like Beckham yet the two girls were both so hot for him...

I didn't buy him being sexy then, but as long as he's not supposed to be some drop dead gorgeous guy I guess he'd be okay.

He's a better than average actor.

[Prison Mike]

I don't know anything about Maxwell Lord so I can't be disappointed. I'm just interested in who is cast as Superman and Batman.

[Antonello Blueberry]

How can someone who considers himself a Superman fan not know who's Maxwell Lord?

[TheLongestDay]

Jonathan Rhys Meyers is a great actor,if he has been cast in JL then my interest has been peaked once again...

...still gutted about no welling :(

[Prison Mike]

How can someone who considers himself a Superman fan not know who's Maxwell Lord?

To tell you the truth, I was never a big Superman fan. In fact, I'm a Marvel guy (I'm a Spider-Man fan first and foremost). I only got into Superman once Smallville aired and even then, I don't know much about the character and villains. I know more about Batman than Superman.

[triplet]

How can someone who considers himself a Superman fan not know who's Maxwell Lord?

He's a bit of an obscure character....

He's more of a Justice League related character than a Superman related one.

Jonathan Rhys Meyers is a great actor,if he has been cast in JL then my interest has been peaked once again...

Great? I'm not sure about that but I don't watch the Tudors, I know I didn't like him much in Bend it Like Beckham....

...still gutted about no welling :(

Quoted for Truth, but I guess I'll live.

[Prison Mike]

I saw Meyers in Match Point and he was okay. Nothing special about him, but he wasn't horrible.

[KalKai]

I chatted with EMI, the one thing that she is trying to do is verify this list.

WB is playing games and sending out false info and the last thing that she or I are going to do is post a false cast list.

Just wait, people. :)

[AgentPat]

Really?That's what she said. Is it true? Couldn't tell ya. I'm leaning towards yes.

I like Rhys Meyers as an actor, but he's kind of a shrimpy little thang. Is Maxwell Lord a little guy?LOL@"shrimpy little thang." Yup! Remember him in Velvet Goldmine? Oy. :rolleyes:

But anyway, Meyers doesn't do anything for me visually or as an actor, so I guess how he compares to the comics is irrelevant. Not being flip - just honest.

Back to the Superman casting - that IS the make or break right now - I'm DYING to know who *was* cast. Jayne said she wasn't disappointed, and we all know she wanted Welling, so the actor chosen must be pretty darn perfect. Good actor, attractive, big and buff.... This gives me some hope. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/pray.gif

[phil]

Is Welling a definite No? Why would she post something like that with the winks if he wasn't?

[Prison Mike]

If WB is sending out false info, I wonder when the official cast list will be released?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I wonder when the official cast list will be released?

The day before filming starts at this rate

[Whiteflag]

But anyway, Meyers doesn't do anything for me visually or as an actor, so I guess how he compares to the comics is irrelevant. Not being flip - just honest.

Same here!

Back to the Superman casting - that IS the make or break right now - I'm DYING to know who *was* cast. Jayne said she wasn't disappointed, and we all know she wanted Welling, so the actor chosen must be pretty darn perfect. Good actor, attractive, big and buff.... This gives me some hope. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/pray.gif

I only really cared about a certain good actor, attractive, big and buff being cast as Superman in this movie. :cwink: Now, I only hope they do some justice to the character, but it won't ever be the same for me. :dry:

[Prison Mike]

I don't remember being THIS interested in a movie cast before. Even with SR, I didn't care that much. I guess I'm only interested due to the rumors of Welling being Supes.

[ariellem]

BTW... if anybody cares, according to LadyMarmalade at IESB, Jonathan Rhys Meyers has been cast as Maxwell Lord in JL. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ohwell.gif

This guy ?

http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/87/56/0000038756_20070327162213.jpg

Personally, I don't like him much. He wasn't all that in Bend it Like Beckham yet the two girls were both so hot for him...

I didn't buy him being sexy then, but as long as he's not supposed to be some drop dead gorgeous guy I guess he'd be okay.

He's a better than average actor.

That right there would get me to watch JLA - but I would probably go anyway, no matter who was CAST as Superman.

I didn't see Bend It until a month or so ago, on DVD. Thought he was pretty good in that. But it was tinged - online, I'd seen the first couple of episodes of The Tudors, and he was SMOKING in those. <fanning self> Check him out online, and then LMK.

http://www.sho.com/site/tudors/episodes.do - hey, they have a whole lot of eps up now! I'll have to catch up <GRIN> We don't have Showtime.

[ZIPBAGS]

Can't believe how bummed I am about Welling not being cast. Its not the end of the world or anything. But, I guess with all of the little winks on Smallville. Its just a big tease. :(

Although, now we are hearing about false info being leaked. So who the heck knows.

[AgentPat]

I only really cared about a certain good actor, attractive, big and buff being cast as Superman in this movie. :cwink: Now, I only hope they do some justice to the character, but it won't ever be the same for me. :dry:Oh, I TOTALLY hear ya. Welling's my Superman. Full stop. Everybody else is a distant second. PERIOD!!!

That said, I really *want* to have a reason to look forward to this film. But just because it's about the Justice League isn't enough to get me into the theaters to see it. I've got to WANT to see the cast in their respective roles. If the announced cast comes off like a bunch of kids playing dress-up on Halloween, I'll have zero interest in the pic. But if they get a charismatic cast that I *want* to watch - even if I don't "see" them as Superman, Batman, WW, etc., I'll still enjoy watching them perform. 'Cause at this point, it's all about the action and eye candy, witty jokes and funny moments - not about believing in the characters or for that matter, caring about 'em. Sorry Warners. I believe in the guy on SV. It is what it is and that's not gonna change. But the film can still be entertaining, even if MY Superman isn't in the pic. You'll still get my 10 bucks if you get the cast right. :D

Meyers is strike one. But he's not one of the heroes, so I can easily write him off. For me, the whole film will ride on who they've cast for Superman, Batman, and to a lesser degree, WW and Flash. Everybody else... whatever. Ball's in their court; we'll see how it rolls. ;)

[Thunder Emperor]

so she say welling is out, but also has a half fake list, and smallville ends this season. We shall see when the cast is announced

[triplet]

emi's latest:

I only have a second but seeing as how some of you are upset at how I worded my posts and then came out and said Welling is not Superman, I'm going to explain.

The list I received read like this...

Welling as Superman
Reynolds as Barry Allen
Brody as Wall West
Common as Green Lantern
Winstead as Wonder Woman
Duhamel as Batman
Aquaman was still being checked on and Martian Manhunter was listed as possible full CGI.

This is why I said I was not disappointed. However, in trying to confirm Batman and Aquaman, I found out that WB is releasing more than one list with false info much like they did with the first 14 page script release that everyone freaked out about because it sucked. This is when I was told by my #1 and most trusted source that Welling was not going to be Superman due to "unforeseen circumstances" and Reynolds and Brody had not been offered contracts as of Weds.

So for anyone who's upset with me, I'm sorry, but WB is playing games more than any studio ever has in recent memory. It sucks. But that's just how it is.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&catid=20&id=3222#3223

[Prison Mike]

OMG! That would have been the PERFECT cast! I HATE THE WB!!!!

[AgentPat]

Whoa!! :wow:

What. The. F..........?!!!!

Why is Warner Bros. doing that? That RE-HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELY pisses me off. :cmad:

[AgentPat]

This list is just NUTS!!! Particularly the bolded names:

Welling as Superman
Reynolds as Barry Allen
Brody as Wall West
Common as Green Lantern
Winstead as Wonder Woman
Duhamel as Batman
Aquaman was still being checked on and Martian Manhunter was listed as possible full CGI.

It's like they KNEW what people wanted to hear and ****ed with our heads anyway.

I think I need to .... get away from this for a bit. This is BEYOND frustrating.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If the official list is not that with a few exceptions I am going to be pissed :o

Superman probably not going to happen but
Batman must stay
Wonder Woman must stay

[Syncos]

But the film can still be entertaining, even if MY Superman isn't in the pic. You'll still get my 10 bucks if you get the cast right. :D

Well, they might end up getting $10 from me regardless of cast, depending on if it looks like an entertaining action movie. However, that's the difference between getting $10 out of me, and upwards of $70. If it's not casting i'd want to see, i'm not going to see the movie multiple times. and it'll be that way for a lot of people.

infamous_emijayne I only have a second but seeing as how some of you are upset at how I worded my posts and then came out and said Welling is not Superman, I'm going to explain.

The list I received read like this...

Welling as Superman
Reynolds as Barry Allen
Brody as Wall West
Common as Green Lantern
Winstead as Wonder Woman
Duhamel as Batman

That would be fantastic. Damn.

Whoa!! :wow:

What. The. F..........?!!!!

Why is Warner Bros. doing that? That RE-HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELY pisses me off. :cmad:

Seconded.

[Thunder Emperor]

WB has done the most crazy misdirection of all time and i think that is the offiical cast. here me out. it's easier to give out the real list and say its a lie. than make up a fictitious one

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Warner Brothers is playing a very dangerous game I hope they know what they are doing

[ariellem]

http://www.sho.com/site/tudors/episodes.do

Correction - ^^^ doesn't seem to show entire eps any more (they showed the first two pre-season), just some clips. Found the first few eps on YouTube, for those who'd like to see JRM in action:

http://www.youtube.com/w/?v=1k3sZ8HCcuE

[Prison Mike]

reverse psychology? I don't think WB is THAT smart.

[KBX]

That is ridiculous, that is pretty much want everyone wanted.....

Yeah that has to be a fake, its waaaaaaaay to good to be true.

Welling as Sups? Reynolds as Flash? yep, THAT gave it away...

[KBX]

WB has done the most crazy misdirection of all time and i think that is the offiical cast. here me out. it's easier to give out the real list and say its a lie. than make up a fictitious one

I agree, and thats why I don't think we will know the official cast until the damn movie starts filming. It will be one fake cast after another, with the real one mixed somewhere between fake cast 1 and fake cast 43...

[Syncos]

WB has done the most crazy misdirection of all time and i think that is the offiical cast. here me out. it's easier to give out the real list and say its a lie. than make up a fictitious one

No it's not. It's much, much easier to make something up randomly.

It's not exactly a secret that people want welling (especially after Sanchez went on G4 and stirred the pot)

and people have been screaming for Reynolds as flash for a long, long time.

releasing that they've got them was the easiest, most BS thing WB could do.

[Serene]

I was told by my #1 and most trusted source that Welling was not going to be Superman due to "unforeseen circumstances"

Reading that right there just depressed the **** out of me. Even though I (thought) I'd already accepted that he wasn't going to be doing this no matter what we were hearing.

[TheLongestDay]

Warner Brothers is playing a very dangerous game I hope they know what they are doing

ive always suspected them when it comes to mind games and things

like how the first official pic of the batman begins suit was awful and didnt do it justice atall,it had all the fans *****ing,and it looked brown...

then about a month later they release some kickass ones

Its almost like they were trying to soften us up,like with a crappy fake JL script that makes us appreciate a better one even more.

but i have no idea what they hope to achieve by getting fans hopes up for welling only to crush them

unless they released that rumour about the hellboy dude so they could sideswipe us with a much more awesome casting...bah im babbling now...

[Syncos]

The ups and downs of this LoLercoaster are starting to make me nauseous.

... I would like, to get off.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

WB = Jigsaw
Fans = Victims

[KalKai]

It's useless getting up in arms about this, don't react to any information or misinformation you hear until the official announcement, the only result you're gonna achieve is getting more confused.. don't be sheep lol, this is how 1 big lie can be built, rumor after rumor, people taking them as fact etc.

No one can be 100% sure of anything. True or false, you'll never know until that day.

Learn.

This is like the whole Roswell incident LOL.

[AgentPat]

The ups and downs of this LoLercoaster are starting to make me nauseous.Want a barf bag? You're gonna need one. There's more...

Now that I've finished making all the calls I can and confirmed what I was told yesterday afternoon, here's what's going on.

Remember the completely legit looking 14 pages that sounded like Teen Titans meets the Super Friends and how it turned out to be purposely leaked false info at the hands of WB?? Well WB is at it again and is leaking 3 different cast lists so the public will just continue to be confused until they make their official press release. The list I received was a partially fake one. I discovered the problem while confirming Batman.

Much to my dismay, Welling and Reynolds are off the table. Reynolds may end up in another highly anticipated superhero film but I can't post which one yet. Email me if you want to know, but post it and I'll never tell you anything again. Welling was in talks and was close to taking the role, but supposedly "unforseen circumstances" came up. Gough is not at fault from what I've been told. Smallville is still ending this season and Supergirl is getting a spin-off, so he will be available should Superman get a reboot.

I'm as upset by this news as anyone and I apologize for causing any extra stress in this ongoing hunt for info.http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/eyebrow.gif



There it is. Oh Jaaaaaaack? *cough*

[Prison Mike]

wait so, there's no eighth season of Smallville?

[Syncos]

Want a barf bag? You're gonna need one. There's more...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/eyebrow.gif



There it is. Oh Jaaaaaaack? *cough*

Yah, that'd be good.

Y'know, I'm more disappointed about the fact that the Welling haters actually won, than I am about him not being in the movie.

[KalKai]

See you're doing it again, when are you going to learn?

Never apparently.. humans.. lol. :D

[KalKai]

Yah, that'd be good.

Y'know, I'm more disappointed about the fact that the Welling haters actually won, than I am about him not being in the movie.

Won what? This isn't a game, nobody wins anything.

[Syncos]

"Smallville is still ending this season and Supergirl is getting a spin-off, so he will be available should Superman get a reboot."

This doesn't make much sense. Gough seemed pretty psyched about doing an eighth year. Why would they stop Smallville if Tom's -not- doing the movie. Absurd.

[Prison Mike]

See you're doing it again, when are you going to learn?

Never apparently.. humans.. lol. :D

it's one of our flaws.

[Paradoxium]

You know if Duhamel had been cast, I actually picture him having no problem cameoing on Smallville had Welling been cast as Superman. He does TV work right? If Jonathan Rhys Meyers is playing Maxwell Lord AND he is the lead of Tudors, I think the Cavill rumor is not so out there.

If you guys are frustrated by this rollercoaster ride. Why not just stop surfing at these forums and wait till November. Its like the legitimacy of this film is based on whether Welling is Superman or not. Honestly, it can't be that bad.

[Syncos]

Won what? This isn't a game, nobody wins anything.

This is a crow stuffing competition... weren't you informed?

[KBX]

wait wait wait...

So Welling ain't Superman, Smallville is ending this season and Supergirl is getting a spinoff?

Talk about a lose, lose, lose situation....

[AgentPat]

See you're doing it again, when are you going to learn?

Never apparently.. humans.. lol. :DWho? Jack nailed this one. Right between the eyes. Or do you *really* think this is still just a smoke screen Kai, 'cause games are obviously still being played.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Either they're testing the public's reaction or they're really shooting themselves on the foot here. Why would they throw a list with the name that's been getting this movie the biggest publicity and most fans's choice just to "confuse" people ?
Didn't they learn anything from the last movie ?
I really hope they are just messing with us and come an official announcement Welling will be in this movie.
If not the fact she does say something I already said here a while ago, that they may be saving Welling for MOS...
I hope that's the case. If not f*** them ! A suit does not make a Superman. An actor does. They can go around and continue to choose men's in suits that they won't embodie Superman. And once again they WILL fail. Warner will be the ones eating the crow (for a second time) not us.

[TheLongestDay]

i have only one thing to say...

GAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR RRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

[Zing79]

Welling was in talks and was close to taking the role, but supposedly "unforseen circumstances" came up. Gough is not at fault from what I've been told. Smallville is still ending this season and Supergirl is getting a spin-off, so he will be available should Superman get a reboot.
It never ends.
Not.going.to.happen!

The idea that Smallville ends now is a joke on a level that makes me wonder if people even use their brains when being given information. The show hasn't lost viewers, it's now the highest rated program on The CW - it makes untold millions for everyone involved, and they're getting ever close each year to the mythical 200 episode mark.

Supergirl may get a spin-off, but not at the expense of SV. It would not surprise me to see this show make a serious push for 200 eps, thus assuring everyone involved it will make serious syndication money for the next 15-20 years.

Oh, and let's add this edit for good measure: next year Rosenbaum, and Kreuk are likely gone as regulars, so you've saved millions in production costs. The show can and will easily continue on with those two doing guest stints for a portion of a season. It could cost them even less to make the show starting next year, while continuing to bring in the same level of money.

[triplet]

This list is just NUTS!!! Particularly the bolded names:

Welling as Superman
Reynolds as Barry Allen
Brody as Wall West
Common as Green Lantern
Winstead as Wonder Woman
Duhamel as Batman
Aquaman was still being checked on and Martian Manhunter was listed as possible full CGI.

It's like they KNEW what people wanted to hear and ****ed with our heads anyway.

I think I need to .... get away from this for a bit. This is BEYOND frustrating.

Why release this list as misinformation? It's ****ing perfect....

Well, with the exception of perhaps Brody as Wally West.

Bastards.

Stupid ****ing bastards the lot of them.

[Whiteflag]

Why release this list as misinformation? It's ****ing perfect....

Well, with the exception of perhaps Brody as Wally West.

Bastards.

Stupid ****ing bastards the lot of them.

lol Agreed! :up:

[KalKai]

Who? Jack nailed this one. Right between the eyes. Or do you *really* think this is still just a smoke screen Kai, 'cause games are obviously still being played.

k18.

If games are still being played there's no reason to believe anything. That cast may very well be the real cast, but the more this continues, the more it's going to drive everyone nuts, which is why I need a break, and so do all of you, let the others get into this whole mess, don't get involved, let's just relax, can we? ;) :D

[phil]

Why release this list as misinformation? It's ****ing perfect....

Well, with the exception of perhaps Brody as Wally West.

Bastards.

Stupid ****ing bastards the lot of them.
I can't even begin to tell you how much I agree with you. This list ROCKS all but that one actor who I thought was annoying when he guest starred in SV. I still can't believe how popular he's gotten???? And I can't believe that he has the presance to be The Flash in the biggest superhero film of all time? to me he would be VERY overshadowed with the rest of this kickass cast.

[triplet]

wait so, there's no eighth season of Smallville?

I'm not reading spoilers but you got Clark learning to fly this season and upcoming episodes named Hero and Persona and Lana and Clark both are beginning to see that maybe their love isn't meant to be...

Where do you think this season is heading unless it's going into the final "launch sequence"???

:confused:

Want a barf bag? You're gonna need one. There's more...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/eyebrow.gif

Hmmm....

There it is. Oh Jaaaaaaack? *cough*

Yeah, I'd like to hear his take on this new pizza recipe...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/eyebrow.gif

See you're doing it again, when are you going to learn?

Never apparently.. humans.. lol. :D

Nope, we never do learn.

Fanboys and fangirls are the most excitable of creatures and latch onto the often most improbable bits of info like a person adrift alone in a stormy sea grasps onto a life vest...

*sigh*

I hope this isn't because of Jack's pizzeria scenario of Tom not getting this thanks to Goughlar wanting to reboot MOS with him in the lead.

Stupid greedy bastards.

That film may never happen and this film was probably Tom's best chance to don the tights in a feature.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Oh yes there will be blood





**Do not post that pic again**

[ZIPBAGS]

Anyone think that the list Emi has (the one everyone likes) might be real? Who knows. Maybe, WB found out who Emi's most trusted source is and fed him BS to see stop or discredit him/her.

And if Warner really wants Welling to reboot the movie series. Then put him in JL and get everyone into him. :D

[ZIPBAGS]

Still the best Welling/Superman manip promo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NIFvrV4VP4

[C. Lee]

Caboose.....do not post the pic of Batman giving the finger again.

[TheLongestDay]

Still the best Welling/Superman manip promo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NIFvrV4VP4

this is so AMAZING!

[TheComicbookKid]

Oh, and let's add this edit for good measure: next year Rosenbaum, and Kreuk are likely gone as regulars, so you've saved millions in production costs. The show can and will easily continue on with those two doing guest stints for a portion of a season. It could cost them even less to make the show starting next year, while continuing to bring in the same level of money.

Rosenbaum makes that show. It would be like when Happy days or That 70s show tried to go on without a main character. Mess with the formula and you ruin the mixture.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Multiple cast lists, fake scripts, covert WB operatives surfing the web to gauge fan opinion. Is this a JL movie or the plot to a Tom Clancy novel?

Yikes. I've been telling you for two weeks that it aint gonna be Welling and not to get your hopes up although deep down I was still hoping for it too.

It's one thing not to cast Tom, its a whole other thing to know people want it so you leak it online with the intent of screwing people up. Thats quite a dangerous game to play if your WB. If you want to leak a fake casting list, then leak one, but dont use a good portion of the fanbase's favorites on it and then yank the rug out from under them. Fanboys/girls tend to hold grudges on these sorts of things. Why on Earth would you leak a cast that was BETTER than the real thing? If anything you'd think they'd want to leak something worse so the real cast looks even better and has better buzz.

I'm glad a legit site didnt get a hold of this and post it. Imagine the uproar then when it didnt happen? as opposed to now when just those who read IESB are seeing it.

One last thing about emijayne, I dont know what to believe from her anymore. She's sure he's in, then he's out, but then he's in again, but now he's out. Things seem to change so quickly all the time with what she knows. Do I believe her when she says he's out now? Or do I believe her when she said he was in? Going back and looking things, other than the intial Welling speculation from August, she hasnt really come through with much of anything about this film.

[Mig-El]

I'm tired of all of this. I used to appreciate hearing from Robert and Emijayne or from anyone with "inside sources", but now I hope they just stop until the official press release is well released. Letting fans' hopes up and then only debunked it later is really pissing me off, and its not fun anymore. They should just not say anything and quit this "we will scoop this JLA exclusive first" mentality.

[Zing79]

Rosenbaum makes that show. It would be like when Happy days or That 70s show tried to go on without a main character. Mess with the formula and you ruin the mixture.
Is that what your target demo says?

[TheLongestDay]

I'm tired of all of this. I used to appreciate hearing from Robert and Emijayne or from anyone with "inside sources", but now I hope they just stop until the official press release is well released. Letting fans' hopes up and then only debunked it later is really pissing me off, and its not fun anymore. They should just not say anything and quit this "we will scoop this JLA exclusive first" mentality.

im starting to feel the same way:csad:

[triplet]

Multiple cast lists, fake scripts, covert WB operatives surfing the web to gauge fan opinion. Is this a JL movie or the plot to a Tom Clancy novel?

Yikes. I've been telling you for two weeks that it aint gonna be Welling and not to get your hopes up although deep down I was still hoping for it too.

It's one thing not to cast Tom, its a whole other thing to know people want it so you leak it online with the intent of screwing people up. Thats quite a dangerous game to play if your WB. If you want to leak a fake casting list, then leak one, but dont use a good portion of the fanbase's favorites on it and then yank the rug out from under them. Fanboys/girls tend to hold grudges on these sorts of things. Why on Earth would you leak a cast that was BETTER than the real thing? If anything you'd think they'd want to leak something worse so the real cast looks even better and has better buzz.

It makes no sense at all.

:confused:

I'm glad a legit site didnt get a hold of this and post it. Imagine the uproar then when it didnt happen? as opposed to now when just those who read IESB are seeing it.

One last thing about emijayne, I dont know what to believe from her anymore. She's sure he's in, then he's out, but then he's in again, but now he's out. Things seem to change so quickly all the time with what she knows. Do I believe her when she says he's out now? Or do I believe her when she said he was in? Going back and looking things, other than the intial Welling speculation from August, she hasnt really come through with much of anything about this film.

Apparently with some other films she's been spot on but she's being led around like someone's got hold of her nose ring....

Her writing style is terse and to-the-point but she's been even more so lately, I think she's as pissed as everyone else.

As it is, if all these fake leaks are some sort of strategy I'm not sure who's planning it: WB or one of their rivals.

It would hardly be to Warner's benefit to release a fake cast list that is most fans' dreams (except for brody, of course) and then drop the real and much more disappointing list on us later.

It's crazy.

If it's coming from somewhere outside the studio, then this is a conspiracy worthy of a Oliver Stone movie...

It's a mystery! It's a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma!

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If it's coming from somewhere outside the studio, then this is a conspiracy worthy of a Oliver Stone movie...

The title of the movie = What The ?

Starring: Mark Whalberg, Leonardo Di Caprio, Robert Deniro, William Hurt, Matthew Fox, Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Amanda Righetti, Nadja Bourne, Nadia Bjorlin, Jennifer Love Hewitt

Plot - On the eve of the WB announcing to the world the first ever Hollywood Blockbuster Movie Justice League the WB hires FBI Investigators to track down the source of somebody or some company trying to get fans hopes up before they go on killing sprees. The rumored movie stars are under FBI Protection & as the FBI get close to discovering the truth the truth is nothing compared to whats really going on :wow:

[The Incredible Hulk]

another log for the fire. Anyone ever heard of this site?

http://news.lalate.com/2007/10/26/teresa-palmer-lalate-exclusive-on-justice-league-movie/

And in a separate story, lalate exclusively can report that sources are suggesting that the cast of the Justice League movie will be announced Monday in one of two Hollywood trade publications. Sources suggest the cast has been decided, but do not know themselves, and everyone will find out the cast when that publication hits newsstands this coming Monday.

[KalKai]

Edit.

[Prison Mike]

interesting...

[Sebastos]

another log for the fire. Anyone ever heard of this site?

http://news.lalate.com/2007/10/26/teresa-palmer-lalate-exclusive-on-justice-league-movie/

Never heard of it.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Time will tell

[Sebastos]

So with Routh not being involved with the JLA movie, so you guys think Welling has a chance now? I mean I saw that actor from Hellboy that was suggested and I think he'd be a terrible choice. I'm really pulling for Welling.

[AgentPat]

I just saws dat. Interesting.

WHELLL!!! If true, I guess we'll have our answer on Monday. :ninja:

[Showtime]

What did I miss?

[Sebastos]

What did I miss?

TIH posted a report saying the cast will be revealed on Monday.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

What did I miss?

You must lots of good stuff & lots of big bangs :wow:

[Showtime]

Was their a cast announced that was fake?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Was their a cast announced that was fake?

As fake as Erica Durances Boobs

[KalKai]

Good stuff & lots of big bangs?

Nope, nothing new, same old same old, nobody knows anything.

[Showtime]

So who was on the fake cast list.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

So who was on the fake cast list.

Every single actor & actress fans wanted aside from Brody

[AgentPat]

As fake as Erica Durances BoobsThis cracked me up! :up:

So who was on the fake cast list.Here's Jayne's list:

I only have a second but seeing as how some of you are upset at how I worded my posts and then came out and said Welling is not Superman, I'm going to explain.

The list I received read like this...

Welling as Superman
Reynolds as Barry Allen
Brody as Wall West
Common as Green Lantern
Winstead as Wonder Woman
Duhamel as Batman
Aquaman was still being checked on and Martian Manhunter was listed as possible full CGI.

This is why I said I was not disappointed. However, in trying to confirm Batman and Aquaman, I found out that WB is releasing more than one list with false info much like they did with the first 14 page script release that everyone freaked out about because it sucked. This is when I was told by my #1 and most trusted source that Welling was not going to be Superman due to "unforeseen circumstances" and Reynolds and Brody had not been offered contracts as of Weds.

So for anyone who's upset with me, I'm sorry, but WB is playing games more than any studio ever has in recent memory. It sucks. But that's just how it is.

[Prison Mike]

I wanted Brody...

[The Incredible Hulk]

So who was on the fake cast list.

emijayne was given a cast list that she says she believes is fake. The list was:

Supes: Welling
Bats: Duhamel
Flash (Barry): Reynolds
Flash (Wally): Adam Brody
WW: MEW
GL: Common

there was no Aquaman on it and a rumor that MM would just be CGI

EDIT: I see Pat beat me to it when I was typing.

What I dont get is, that if its a fake list why didnt they just make up an Aquaman and MM? :confused:

[Showtime]

emijayne was given a cast list that she says she believes is fake. The list was:

Supes: Welling
Bats: Duhamel
Flash (Barry): Reynolds
Flash (Wally): Adam Brody
WW: MEW
GL: Common

there was no Aquaman on it and a rumor that MM would just be CGI

Heh Heh. Figures as much.

[triplet]

Edit: Pat and Hulk seriously beat me to it...

As fake as Erica Durances Boobs

:D

Too funny...

What I dont get is, that if its a fake list why didnt they just make up an Aquaman and MM?

Yeah? True... maybe it's not fake.

But then again my brain is going to explode.

*sigh*

[Showtime]

I actually don't mind Brody as Flash.

[Sebastos]

As fake as Erica Durances Boobs

LOL.

[AgentPat]

What I dont get is, that if its a fake list why didnt they just make up an Aquaman and MM? :confused:http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/skeptical.gif


....................... :ninja:

[Serene]

Welling, Duhamel, Common, Brody, Winstead and Reynolds....

*sigh*

Everyone that everyone wanted, except maybe for Brody and maybe Winstead.


I don't know Common at ALL. I wanted Nathan Fillion for GL.

Also, I much prefer Scott Porter for Flash (Wally) over Brody. Palmer's pretty, but I was just looking at some pictures of her, and I'm just not feeling the WW vibe. Hopefully a costume, dark hair, and BIG honkin' lifts in her boots will make a difference.

Man.. Welling/Duhamel/Reynolds. *sigh* Are there anymore chickens left, Pat?

[The Incredible Hulk]

hey look ANOTHER WW candidate! YAY! :rolleyes:

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22657525-5009160,00.html

[OobeDoobBenubi]

hey look ANOTHER WW candidate! YAY! :rolleyes:

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22657525-5009160,00.html

They spelled Biel wrong

[OobeDoobBenubi]

This cracked me up! :up:


:D

Too funny...


LOL.


http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/252662/1024/Pictures/ImBatman.gif

[triplet]

hey look ANOTHER WW candidate! YAY! :rolleyes:

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22657525-5009160,00.html

Interesting, they seem to be repeating (confirming?) LaLife's "exclusive" about the announcement coming monday, which would be Tuesday down under since they're on the other side of the date line:
An announcement on the Wonder Woman role is expected next Tuesday. However, Gale's dark beauty does have more in common with Lynda Carter, who was such a hit in the Wonder Woman TV series. Go Megan!

[rumpuso]

What a friggin headache this whole mess is.

So, now this list is a fake?

Have all of Emijayne's posts been discounted now?

Mama mia...

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Emijayne said right out when she posted the list that there was a very big possibility that it was fake

[ZIPBAGS]

Here is a pic of the person from WB who is giving fake...no real...no fake...no real...no fake cast lists..

http://www.ealasaid.com/ego/images/twoface.jpg
:)

I also am confused as to why WB would release a cast list that is a filled with fan favs.

[ZIPBAGS]

Exclusive!!

I never understood why those in charge at Warner wouldn't go with Welling. Then I saw this exclusive picture from the casting meeting. And it answered all of my questions....


http://www.walnettosinc.com/images/three-stooges.jpg
;)

[triplet]

What a friggin headache this whole mess is.

So, now this list is a fake?

Have all of Emijayne's posts been discounted now?

Mama mia...

It's enough to make one's head spin and stomach turn.

:(

I hope that they're right and an announcement is coming out on Monday.

[AgentPat]

Man.. Welling/Duhamel/Reynolds. *sigh* Are there anymore chickens left, Pat?BrrrBAAAA!!!

Another one just bit the big one.

<- Wringing necks as we speak. :D

[rumpuso]

Exclusive!!

I never understood why those in charge at Warner wouldn't go with Welling. Then I saw this exclusive picture from the casting meeting. And it answered all of my questions....


http://www.walnettosinc.com/images/three-stooges.jpg
;)

Now THAT'S funny!

[triplet]

Here is a pic of the person from WB who is giving fake...no real...no fake...no real...no fake cast lists..

http://www.ealasaid.com/ego/images/twoface.jpg



LOL!

That's perfect, and I think whoever is planning this whole thing is about as Crazy as Two Face....

:D


I also am confused as to why WB would release a cast list that is a filled with fan favs.

It must be Harvey Dent!

:ninja:

Exclusive!!

I never understood why those in charge at Warner wouldn't go with Welling. Then I saw this exclusive picture from the casting meeting. And it answered all of my questions....


http://www.walnettosinc.com/images/three-stooges.jpg
;)

LOL!

:D

I'm glad I'm laughing right now, otherwise I think I'd be crying...

:(

[rumpuso]

BrrrBAAAA!!!

Another one just bit the big one.

<- Wringing necks as we speak. :D

Pat, are you still holding out hope????

Seems highly unlikely now. :csad:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

There is only one man who is evil enough to do this & only one man that has an evil organization :ninja:

[LastSon Kal-El]

DR EEEvil?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

DR EEEvil?

Worse

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z167/Great_WhiteSnark/skroob2.jpg

Spaceballs

[ZIPBAGS]

Over on the JL board someone brought up a great point about the Emi's fake cast list. Why isn't the the actor playing Aquaman on it?

Hmmmm!

[AgentPat]

Pat, are you still holding out hope???? Eh.... Not really. But it's only two more days, so might as well have fun with it, right? :woot:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Eh.... Not really. But it's only two more days, so might as well have fun with it, right? :woot:

If it indeed is two more days

[ZIPBAGS]

After hearing Emi's post about Welling not being in JL. I had to go out. While driving I was feeling really bummed about him not being in it. Its sad and pathetic. But, like I said earlier in this thread. All of these teases online and the winks and foreshadowing on Smallville. It just got my excitement up for Welling as Supes. :(

But, like some have said. We still don't have anything "official".