Tom Welling as Superman

[Showtime]

I like this post, the two Tom's are ready to kiuck some ass.

Tom Welling > Tome Welling

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I like this post, the two Tom's are ready to kick some ass.


AH HA HA go TOME! ;)

[triplet]

Tom Welling > Tome Welling

LOL!

He doesn't just play Superman, he's also a book!

Get your copy of "Tome Welling" over at Amazon.com TODAY!

;)

[phil]

LOL!

He doesn't just play Superman, he's also a book!

Get your copy of "Tome Welling" over at Amazon.com TODAY!

;)

lol, I didn't know what you guys were talking about, I never saw that.

Tome Welling and Tome Brady:woot:

[phil]

whats the deal? is the cast really getting announced this week or was it another smoke screen?

[DvilDog]

how about a little comic relief.

http://www.film.com/movies/story/sevenpeoplenotbeingconsideredforjusticeleagueroles/11597472/17092067

[AgentPat]

whats the deal? is the cast really getting announced this week or was it another smoke screen?Who knows Phil? The real irony in that these disinformation lists aren't being started at the studio like previously suggested. They're coming from people who call themselves fans, but in reality they're just trolls with too much time on their hands.

For the record, I don't consider Jayne one of those trolls.

[Thunder Emperor]

AH HA HA go TOME! ;)

Hey you know I have improved sine 04'. :woot:

[\S/JcDc\S/]

It's all good (man that's an old saying now :eek: ) Thunder :up:

[phil]

Who knows Phil? The real irony in that these disinformation lists aren't being started at the studio like previously suggested. They're coming from people who call themselves fans, but in reality they're just trolls with too much time on their hands.

For the record, I don't consider Jayne one of those trolls.
Me neither, I was going out of mind today at work not being able to check in to see if anythings happening. But once again it was all for nothin. I can't wait because I'm spending way too much time with this.

[AgentPat]

Me neither, I was going out of mind today at work not being able to check in to see if anythings happening. But once again it was all for nothin. I can't wait because I'm spending way too much time with this.Oh gosh, I hear that. The Red Sox returned today to a huge crowd - we've got Epstein and Ortiz waving the trophy around and fans screaming as if man just landed on the moon - again - and I'm here hitting refresh on a damn message board saying don't botha me; I'm busy *click, click, click*. :rolleyes:

That's just wrong. It's wrong doncha know?!!! :mad:

<-- Looozah!!!! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/loser.gif

LOLOL!!!

[Serene]

:mad:

I really don't want to sift back through 50 pages on IESB. So, is the gist of it that Lady Marmalade was just another lowlife scumsucking TOOL who gets off on hurting other people by crushing them? Oh, but at least he pretends (or convinces himself) that he's doing it to expose the truth. Sure, buddy, keep telling yourself that if it lets you sleep better at night.

Great. I actually PM'd, or whatever that weird format calls it, LadyM last night, hoping she'd share the list and letting her know how anxious we all were to see it. She seemed... friendly. I just love being duped by someone who takes pleasure in being a malicious lying troll.

Stuff like this really depresses me. I hate to have it made so clear that there are people with absolutely no sense of honor or self-respect out there who actually have no qualms about doing stuff like this.

Whoever you are, GET HELP. There's a lot more at stake her for you personally that just who's starring in any damn movie.

[AgentPat]

:mad:

I really don't want to sift back through 50 pages on IESB. So, is the gist of it that Lady Marmalade was just another lowlife scumsucking TOOL who gets off on hurting other people by crushing them? Oh, but at least he pretends (or convinces himself) that he's doing it to expose the truth. Sure, buddy, keep telling yourself that if it lets you sleep better at night.

Great. I actually PM'd, or whatever that weird format calls it, LadyM last night, hoping she'd share the list and letting her know how anxious we all were to see it. She seemed... friendly. I just love being duped by someone who takes pleasure in being a malicious lying troll.

Stuff like this really depresses me. I hate to have it made so clear that there are people with absolutely no sense of honor or self-respect out there who actually have no qualms about doing stuff like this.

Whoever you are, GET HELP. There's a lot more at stake her for you personally that just who's starring in any damn movie.You had it right the first time. Amazing that he'd do it again, huh?

On a lighter note, hey look! I've got sources:
http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showthread.php?p=1439043#post1439043

LOL! Who knew back in late August/early Sept that it would take THIS long for an official announcement?

[p4poetic]

Tom Welling for Superman...thats a clever idea. I like.

[triplet]

Is there a reason why people are so damned mean and spiteful just because they can be? Personally, I don't get it.

I mean, these are the very same people that idolize fictional heroes like Superman or Batman or whoever...

Those fictional people might not be perfect, but they always try to do the right thing and always want to protect others and keep them safe.

So, how can someone who claims they love Superman and look up to him do this to other people?

I absolutely don't understand this sort of behavior. I can't even begin to fathom why anyone would think it was fun.

:confused:

I'm saddened and confused and I want off this ride, it's really starting to turn my stomach.

[Prison Mike]

yes it was very Lex Luthor of Lady M to do this, not very Superman-like.

[AgentPat]

Meh. It was fun while it lasted. I'm a little pissed I missed the Red Sox homecoming over something stupid, but whatever.

Somebody a while ago (I forget who so my apologies) wondered why Warners doesn't just release the names as they're confirmed, like the latest Star Trek film is doing. Now I admit to not keeping up with that production - shame on me - but it does make sense. It gives fans a slow, steady build of interest and something they can continue to discuss. But this situation has just been a day of elation followed by a day of making Molotov cocktails. I'm sure Warner Bros. is laughing their asses off, but I'm not sure how well the approach will be in the end. If I can get just ONE actor that floats my boat in this film, I'll be happy. If on the other hand, the cast is indeed just a bunch of kids, I really wish they'd just announce already. Then at least I can move on. It'll make things so much easier for everybody.

PS: Anybody know where Marv lives? I have something to send him, and it's ticking. :D

[ariellem]

how about a little comic relief.

http://www.film.com/movies/story/sevenpeoplenotbeingconsideredforjusticeleagueroles/11597472/17092067


:woot::oldrazz::woot:
Thanks for sharing! That was a good one. I'm still smiling: "we like :ww:'s..."
:woot::oldrazz::woot:

[Gmanofsteel]

PS: Anybody know where Marv lives? I have something to send him, and it's ticking. :D

Detroit :D

[AgentPat]

Detroit :DLOL! Thanks. And it looks like he's now playing stupid over at IESB. Phish. Figures he wouldn't own up to it. Whatever. :rolleyes:

Anyhoo....

I was going to manip this cap but I got lazy. Still a great shot though...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/action4.jpg

:D

[Serene]

how about a little comic relief.

http://www.film.com/movies/story/sevenpeoplenotbeingconsideredforjusticeleagueroles/11597472/17092067

That was HYSTERICAL, Dvil. :D :up:

And you're right, it was a great comic relief. I'm ready to take a deep breath and just accept that fact that as Welling fans WE WIN. You know why? Because if Tom gets the role, the WOOTWOOTWOOT! Our guy on the big screen filling out the tights as we've always wanted to see.

If he doesn't get the gig, then meh. We've still got a whole season ahead of us, with the chance of one more. We don't need anyone to tell us that Tom is this generations Superman, because we already know he is.

So let's eat popcorn and see what happens with this silly movie. :up:

[rumpuso]

I just finished reading a dozen or so pages from IESB's board. Wow. What a mess Lady Marmalade has made of things. Everything was already aggravating and confusing enough as is, then to have her chime in her fraudulent posts the last couple days to try to smoke out Emijayne as a fake...it's just too much. After all is said and done, I still have no clue if the information about tomorrow's announcement is true or fake, if Emijayne is real or a fraud, if anyone from Emi's list is real or not, etc.

This whole casting saga for JLA is a mess of epic proportions. I guess this drama should teach us to not hang on too tightly to any "insiders'" information. Just wait until official announcements are made.

[Serene]

I was going to manip this cap but I got lazy. Still a great shot though...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/action4.jpg

:D

That's just perfect. :heart:

Did you cap that, or is it one of JcSv's? I want it. :D

[ZIPBAGS]

I WANT TO BELIEVE THIS MAN WILL FLY!!

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/action4.jpg

:woot:

[AgentPat]

That was HYSTERICAL, Dvil. :D Agreed, that WAS pretty funny. :up:

So let's eat popcorn and see what happens with this silly movie.I've been in that mode for a few weeks now. It makes for fun discussion; reference the speculation about what an actor is worth, etc. So at least some of the tall tales have given us something to ruminate. I enjoy that kind of discussion, because I usually learn something. To wit, I had no idea how much Bale made for BB. Now I know. Thanks, Para. [waves]

I just finished reading a dozen or so pages from IESB's board.Just a dozen? You know that thread has 963 replies as of right now? It has the most posts of any thread on IESB's message board, and most of 'em are made by people worked into a lather by a troll with too much time on his hands.

There are only four other threads with 100 or more posts on Sanchez's board. They are in size order:

208 replies in "More Exclusive Story info about JLA"
377 replies in "Welling to be Superman in JLA movie?"
410 replies in "Justice League Marathon Auditions"
753 replies in "Justice League and man of steel updates"

Notice a pattern here?

Meanwhile, Sanchez has threads on quite a few other topics in sci-fi/fantasy and comic movie genre and nobody seems to care...

Green Lantern Solo film? 3 replies
Escape from NY remake? 2 replies
Hellboy set visit? 2 replies
He-Man Video Presentation? 4 replies
Thomas Jane on Punisher and Criminal Macabre? 5 replies
Punisher script review? 8 replies
Incredible Hulk story details? 8 replies
Time Cop reboot? 1 reply
Simon Pegg and John Cho join Star Trek cast? 8 replies
Kirk casting for Star Trek? 4 replies
Gavin Hood on Wolverine interview? 6 replies
Iron Man trailer? 2 replies
Indie 4 title? 5 replies
Magneto Script review? 6 replies
Dark Knight Spoilers? Zero freakin' replies
And this one kills me: Transformers 2 Treatment? 2 freakin' replies?!!

Put simply, Justice League discussion utterly DOMINATES Sanchez's boards. And unfortunately, one troll took advantage of that. *sigh*

After all is said and done, I still have no clue if the information about tomorrow's announcement is true or fake,I don't know either, but I *thought* they might announce before Nov 1st, because that's when the writers' strike is supposed to go into effect. Who knows now though? Bet it happens when we least expect it.

if Emijayne is real or a fraud,She's real.

if anyone from Emi's list is real or not, etc.I bet one or two are, but nobody will know for sure until the official announcement.

This whole casting saga for JLA is a mess of epic proportions. I guess this drama should teach us to not hang on too tightly to any "insiders'" information. Just wait until official announcements are made.Well, that's the plan. But it doesn't stop us from wanting to know ahead of time. Like I said earlier - if somebody is locked-in, just announce it already. What's the big deal? :dry:

And y'know... If they have somebody really special on the leash - and I'm not talking about Welling - say a big name for the villain - somebody who is assured to put butts in seats - then getting that name out there drives good buzz and big interest. I can understand waiting to announce unknown actors, because fans don't give a crap about somebody they've never heard of before. They just pick apart the promo shot and debate if WW's boobs are big enough, or if Superman has a big enough chest, etc. LOL (This is funny because it's SO damn true!!)

That's just perfect.

Did you cap that, or is it one of JcSv's? I want it. It's originally from Pale Blue Dot. It's been reduced, color corrected and saturated and... Lana was removed. :O

I thought it would make a good base for a manip similar to the one SpiderDaniel made, except with Welling's body, which is beefier...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/action4.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Uaala/Wellingsupes.jpg

But I got lazy. LOL ;)

[ZIPBAGS]

Well, hopefully by this time tomorrow night. Maybe, they will announce who is in the cast. And we will be posting in the following thread....
"Tom Welling is Superman"

Good night all!

:)

[Zing79]

I just want to point this out -- PR agencies get these things a day in advance (at least) before sending them out to the media. If this announcement was coming tomorrow, it probably would have leaked by now.

Just sayin' :)

[AgentPat]

I just want to point this out -- PR agencies get these things a day in advance (at least) before sending them out to the media. If this announcement was coming tomorrow, it probably would have leaked by now.

Just sayin' :)Okay, this is good to keep in mind.

Zing, do you still work... where you used to work? Would you get the heads up on this before hand?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Zing seems alot more optimistic then yesterday

[Zing79]

Okay, this is good to keep in mind.

Zing, do you still work... where you used to work? Would you get the heads up on this before hand?
Unfortunately no. The rules don't apply in Canada. Any press release needs to be 'localized' for the media up here, and we don't get it till the US media gets it first.

BUT, the US PR agents would have this in hand by now, and more then likely the list would have leaked to someone. It hasn't yet, which might mean tomorrow's date will come and go for an announcement.

Which is yet more evidence that we need to totally ignore Robert/EMI. If this date passes, they're clearly not getting it right, so we need to stop hanging on their every word.

[AgentPat]

BUT, the US PR agents would have this in hand by now, and more then likely the list would have leaked to someone. It hasn't yet, which might mean tomorrow's date will come and go for an announcement.Out of curiosity, how does something like this leak? I mean from a PR agent? If they get the info, I would assume they're told to not publish until a certain date and time, right? So what do they do? Does it leak over dinner with friends, and those friends post on the I-Net "hey, guess what I heard" kinda thing? Because the agent himself/herself wouldn't risk losing their jobs over leaking something they're blatantly told not to report until a specific time, right?

Also, if the announcement is as secret as it is - and we all know IT IS LOL!! - why wouldn't Warners send the info via e-mail or courier hours before they want the info out there? Wouldn't that prevent possible leaks before the time the info is supposed to be released?

Which is yet more evidence that we need to totally ignore Robert/EMI. If this date passes, they're clearly not getting it right, so we need to stop hanging on their every word.I don't think Robert has indicated one way or another when an announcement was supposed to be made. Jayne originally said Nov 18th, but that weird website this past weekend said Tuesday, and then Marv... err... Lady Jelly, started saying Tuesday too. He then probably PM'd Jayne with his various aliases, which is when Jayne started saying Tuesday too. But neither of them were saying Tuesday until this weekend. So that's all a fabrication - unless you want to believe that no-name website, which I can't even remember myself. LOL

[Gmanofsteel]

*hopes for new tomorrow*

night all

[Zing79]

Out of curiosity, how does something like this leak? I mean from a PR agent? If they get the info, I would assume they're told to not publish until a certain date and time, right? So what do they do? Does it leak over dinner with friends, and those friends post on the I-Net "hey, guess what I heard" kinda thing? Because the agent himself/herself wouldn't risk losing their jobs over leaking something they're blatantly told not to report until a specific time, right?

Many of my PR contacts also happen to be on my msn list. They're not that hard to track down and ask a question. We talk about their lives, chat from time to time about stuff having nothing to do with work. It's rare that they'll leak me information, but it does happen. It all depends on the relationship you have with a particular agent. If you play nice with them and make their jobs easier they will in turn help you out when they can.

I'll give you an example of how this works. About a year ago I conducted an interview with someone. It was an audio interview no less. The PR agent wasn't in the room during the interview and as a result a **** tonne of information was revealed that wasn't supposed to make the light of day so soon.

I actually scooped literally everyone in the world on about 5 different pieces of info on an anticipated project. The client (or company if you will) was super pissed at the Canadian PR agent. The client had negotiated an exclusive interview with another outlet to reveal all the info that I'd gotten. So again...not good for the agent.

I ended up taking down the interview to help out the agent, who in turn not six months later gave me info that I used to break a story bigger then the original piece I had put together.


Also, if the announcement is as secret as it is - and we all know IT IS LOL!! - why wouldn't Warners send the info via e-mail or courier hours before they want the info out there? Wouldn't that prevent possible leaks before the time the info is supposed to be released?

Today's outlets work on a minute by minute update basis. You can't courier packages out all over the country to press. It would cost too much and worse you'd piss off quite a few people if the packages didn't arrive at exactly the same time for everyone. You're talking about thousands of copies of a press release going out to thousands of press. One digital copy that gets forwarded to all press at the exact same time is much easier to control believe it or not.

[Whiteflag]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/action4.jpg

:D

He's Superman! :heart: :heart:

[Son of Sun]

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8830/51489445ti3.th.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=51489445ti3.jpg)

T-shirt time!

[DvilDog]

That was HYSTERICAL, Dvil. :D :up:

And you're right, it was a great comic relief. I'm ready to take a deep breath and just accept that fact that as Welling fans WE WIN. You know why? Because if Tom gets the role, the WOOTWOOTWOOT! Our guy on the big screen filling out the tights as we've always wanted to see.

If he doesn't get the gig, then meh. We've still got a whole season ahead of us, with the chance of one more. We don't need anyone to tell us that Tom is this generations Superman, because we already know he is.

So let's eat popcorn and see what happens with this silly movie. :up:

Im glad everyone liked it:) You gotta learn to laugh. Its the only cure for everything. So smile, laugh, and everyone have a great day

[ariellem]

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8830/51489445ti3.th.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=51489445ti3.jpg)

T-shirt time!

First draft: the summer suit. People tell him it isn't enough of a stretch from what he normally wears as Clark, so he makes the sleeves longer.

[Superman_]

So since both Robert and the girl from CD and Noveck say Welling will not be Superman does this mean he is not Superman or is it just another false rumor or do we not know what to believe any more.

[DvilDog]

So since both Robert and the girl from CD and Noveck say Welling will not be Superman does this mean he is not Superman or is it just another false rumor or do we not know what to believe any more.


With everything thats been happeneing lately there is a good chance Welling will not be Superman, but there is also a chance that he could be. So basically we started at square one and have been taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back but for some reason we have all mananged to get back to square one. So if you want there is still a slim chance of hope for Tom. But if your like me I have resigned myself to waiting for the official cast list and realizing that i need to enjoy this last season of Smallville.

[Superman_]

Personally I believe Welling will play Superman for Justice League, but my hopes are that he steps into the role full time. Meaning he does Justice League then 3 Superman movies afterwards. But thats only if they (the WB) chose to do a reboot instead of Singer's sequel or semi-revamp.

[DvilDog]

Personally I believe Welling will play Superman for Justice League, but my hopes are that he steps into the role full time. Meaning he does Justice League then 3 Superman movies afterwards. But thats only if they (the WB) chose to do a reboot instead of Singer's sequel or semi-revamp.

If Welling does do the solo series then i believe it will be a complete revamp, though I dont think it will be a complete origin revamp. The man has 7 years of origin already. I seriously doubt that they will stick welling in singers version because honestly that would be kinda confusing to fans that saw SR. Can you imagine going to the theaters and everyone saying wait a minute...... this isnt the guy that played superman in SR.

[Serene]

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8830/51489445ti3.th.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=51489445ti3.jpg)

T-shirt time!

The t-shirt is cute, but he looks like a big kid with a tablecloth tied around his neck playing in the backyard. :D
I don't like it when his pictures are reversed either. It's funny how it does make a difference.

Im glad everyone liked it:) You gotta learn to laugh. Its the only cure for everything. So smile, laugh, and everyone have a great day

Laughter is a great medicine - 'tis true.

I just checked out IESB to see if there's been any 'news' and surprise, surprise.. it's disintegrated into a "lana should have died" thread. :dry:
http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/basic/pcwhack.gif

I'm done there. As Pat pointed out above, this Tom and JL news is the biggest boost that site's ever had. The pot-stirrers over there are just good advertising, which makes you wonder why the posters who've admitted they're sock puppets were allowed to continue posting for so long. I thought he had mods over there? Anyway, done now. Anything really important will be all over the place anyway - obviously none of the 'scoopers' can be trusted because of all the false leaks, and... it's just not even fun anymore.

First draft: the summer suit. People tell him it isn't enough of a stretch from what he normally wears as Clark, so he makes the sleeves longer.

"First draft..." LMAO! We need manips of ALL the drafts. I want to see the topless version - cape and tights only. ;)


So since both Robert and the girl from CD and Noveck say Welling will not be Superman does this mean he is not Superman or is it just another false rumor or do we not know what to believe any more.

Exactly. :)

[Superman_]

The main reason why I hope they cast Welling though is because it looks like everyone from the JL film will be doing the spin-off movies. It even looks that way for Batman which is why I can understand why Nolan and Bale were so upset over this movie. So with that being said if they are not going to cast Routh and Bale as Superman & Batman then I think they should cast someone that most of the fans agree with and like and that other person is Welling. I proably could get use to a new guy but I just don't see the point when you already have two good Supermen out there already.

[Son of Sun]

The t-shirt is cute, but he looks like a big kid with a tablecloth tied around his neck playing in the backyard. :D
I don't like it when his pictures are reversed either. It's funny how it does make a difference.


Hehe, yeah. I was chuckling about it myself. The reason why I reversed it was because I simply slapped the chest S from the picture that was pasted along with the T-shirt picture. Couldn't work perspective on the other direction without having the S reversed.

Just something while enjoying the morning coffee, that :)

[Serene]

Hehe, yeah. I was chuckling about it myself. The reason why I reversed it was because the S symbol in the chest would've been reversed, and that would've sticked out even more :P

Reverse the "S" then, not our leading man. :p

[ZIPBAGS]

Wasn't the news of a cast announcement today or tomorrow coming from a newspaper article not a poster at IESB??

[triplet]

Wasn't the news of a cast announcement today or tomorrow coming from a newspaper article not a poster at IESB??

With all the lies that LM was spreading, I'm not sure anything is certain at this point except that there is a JLA movie in the works and Tom was in discussions at least at one point and George Miller is directiing it down in Australia.

IMO, any other "news" might be suspect since it could very well be fruit from a poisonous tree...

[DvilDog]

With all the lies that LM was spreading, I'm not sure anything is certain at this point except that there is a JLA movie in the works and Tom was in discussions at least at one point and George Miller is directiing it down in Australia.

IMO, any other "news" might be suspect since it could very well be fruit from a poisonous tree...

But.... even though that fruit will make you sick its the best tasting fruit eva!!! lol. So i guess I will keep eating it.:hulk::up:

[The Incredible Hulk]

Wasn't the news of a cast announcement today or tomorrow coming from a newspaper article not a poster at IESB??


there was a website called "LA Late" that posted the cast was supposed to be announced on Monday but obviously it didnt happen. Not sure how they got that info since they seem to be more of a gossip rag site, although if you like Kim Kardashian, you'll probably enjoy that site.. :)

[Showtime]

What was the cast list? Did I miss that?

[Prison Mike]

no cast list yet. We're still waiting for the official announcement.

[Zing79]

/Looks at SHH hope page

Yet another fairly large hint that senior Welling won't be in this movie (and that all these insiders are being fed lies).

Columbus Short turned down Green Lantern because "he ultimately decided the script was too much popcorn for his taste".

I would just like to point out this is a man who's been working mostly in TV, was in such classic films as Stomp the Yard, and Save the Last Dance 2. THIS man said JLA was too much popcorn despite the fact those movies are on his resume.

Now consider Tom, who turned down SV how many times because he thought it was fluff? You don't think Tom has read this script (if he's had ANY involvement with JLA at all)? If Short thought that poorly of it, how do you think Tom's going to react given his history with this character?

[Prison Mike]

yeah Tom most likely will not be Superman, but I would really like to know who will be. The Superman and Batman casting is what I really want to know.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Short, despite his limited resume, may just not like superhero films. For all we know, he could be lying about turning it down to drum up interest in himself. He also might think Smallville is "too much popcorn" so trying to take his logic, and applying it to what Welling would or wouldnt do seems like a bit of a leap.

[Thunder Emperor]

/Looks at SHH hope page

Yet another fairly large hint that senior Welling won't be in this movie (and that all these insiders are being fed lies).

Columbus Short turned down Green Lantern because "he ultimately decided the script was too much popcorn for his taste".

I would just like to point out this is a man who's been working mostly in TV, was in such classic films as Stomp the Yard, and Save the Last Dance 2. THIS man said JLA was too much popcorn despite the fact those movies are on his resume.

Now consider Tom, who turned down SV how many times because he thought it was fluff? You don't think Tom has read this script (if he's had ANY involvement with JLA at all)? If Short thought that poorly of it, how do you think Tom's going to react given his history with this character?

sorry I don't buy that guy for one minute, dude was in stomp the yard. That movie was a crap fest.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/256477/640/256477.jpg

:woot:

[Migu-EL]

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/256477/640/256477.jpg

:woot:


LMAO:oldrazz:

[Son of Sun]

Hahah :D

Dude, I'm totally loving the Fortress of Solitude! :)

[avidreader]

/Looks at SHH hope page



Did you say that on purpose? If not, it does reflect how alot of people in these forums would feel every time they opened up the SHH Home Page. :oldrazz: :yay:

[Zing79]

I've dealt with 1000's of people (that I've interviewed over the years, or worked with in PR), and not once have I ever been lied to or manipulated. I've also dealt with some of the most hard ass PR agencies out there.

So it's always hard for me to read the 300 conspiracy theories that are created from every piece of information that comes out. It's a double sided thing: first I get pissed that most of the 'journalists' (and I use that term loosely), have such ****ty skills at their jobs that they even put themselves in a situation where they could be lied to, or as a result of these journalist's spotty skill sets people have been conditioned to question every quoted statement from every person interviewed.

That's just ridiculous. You are beyond bad at your job as a journalist if you can interview someone and they straight faced lied to you, and you let them get away with it (either then or later).

The first PR Agent that lies to me or let's someone I'm interviewing knowingly lie to me, will earn the wrath of god. I will make their job so incredibly difficult that every agent from there will be scared ****less to attempt it again -- that is how journo's should act. Not let themselves look like fools because they accept the lies.

[ZIPBAGS]

Zing,

Have any of the PR people (that you know) been told when they should expect a JL cast release? I would assume that they wouldn't just send the list without any warning.

Thanks!

[Migu-EL]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superman-lives/tomwellingsupes2.jpg

It looks like we may never get to see this on the big screen.:csad:

[Superman_]

Never say never there is always still a chance no matter how slim it may be.

[Migu-EL]

Never say never there is always still a chance no matter how slim it may be.


I hope your right.

[triplet]

Never say never there is always still a chance no matter how slim it may be.

Well, personally I'm almost out of hope but what I do have is hanging on by a very thin thread....

I hope some miracle happens and Tom is still Superman in the JLA film but I'm definitely not holding my breath.

:(

Sad but true.

[Gmanofsteel]

*peeks in*

no new news?

[Thunder Emperor]

this sucks WB, it sucks ass

[RakuMon]

Now consider Tom, who turned down SV how many times because he thought it was fluff? You don't think Tom has read this script (if he's had ANY involvement with JLA at all)? If Short thought that poorly of it, how do you think Tom's going to react given his history with this character?

Tom was definitely approached by the JLA producers. What transpired after that is anyone's guess.

:ninja:

[Zorex]

In my opinion...Tom may have had good reason before doing Smallville to be afraid of being stuck in the role or viewed as anything else, but...really. It's now in it's 7th season. The 7th year of playing the character. Do people, generally, really see him as anything else? Part of me feels really blunt about it: "It's too late to save yourself. Just f___king take it already."

[AgentPat]

LOTS of info in this article!!!!

Variety
10/30/07

Studios prep back-up plan
Despite strike, many films ready to go
By MICHAEL FLEMING, PAMELA MCCLINTOCK

The studios have spent the better part of the last year trying to protect themselves from possible strike effects.

There are as many as 50 studio movies ready to go into production now if writers walk, and most of the studios have managed to muster together at least five pictures with scripts and plots strong enough to overcome the potential lack of a WGA member on set to execute revisions.

And that doesn't include films being funded by the likes of Media Rights Capital, which will spend $250 million to finance eight films that include the Sacha Baron Cohen comedy "Bruno," he Ricky Gervais comedy "This Side of the Truth," Robert Rodriguez-directed "Shorts," and the Richard Kelly-directed thriller "The Box" with Cameron Diaz. Only "Bruno" has a distribution deal, made at Universal prior to the release of "Borat."

Studios say they have many scripts ready that could be slotted for production instantly if the right star becomes available. Tom Cruise, for instance, has been eyeing the Terry George-directed "Edwin A. Salt" at Columbia and the Todd Phillips-directed comedy "Men" at WB, but he hasn't landed on a pre-strike film. If he does, someone will have a big picture.

Unlike in television, which is far more exposed, the natural cycle of making movies means studios have had ample time to prepare for a walkout, whether by writers, whose contract expires midnight Wednesday, or actors, whose contract is up next summer.

"For now, it's a television strike, not a movie strike. Everybody has done their films for 2008 and part of 2009. It would need a very long strike, six or seven months, to have an impact," said one veteran industry player.

If there's a strike, studios can also get out of producing deals under the force majeur clause included in almost all such pacts. Agencies, too, can shed agents under force majeur. Companies used that "out" plenty during the writers strike in 1988.

For the most part, most studio 2008 slates aren't an issue, since those movies are either done or safely along in the process, save for some of the late-year titles. The threat of a strike has meant that they are going into production sooner than they normally would have with 2009 films, or pics slated for release toward the end of 2008.

"We strongly hope (a strike) doesn't happen, but most feature companies have been preparing for over a year and are fully ready. And if a long strike eventually led to a reduction of the number of films made, that might be a good thing anyway," a studio source says.

Surprisingly few of the production starts are last-minute surprises. Mindful of past mistakes of rushing half-baked scripts into production to beat a strike or threat of a strike -- such as what happened during the de facto strike of 2001 -- studio prexies have been restrained.

Paramount, pleased with revisions done by scribe Stuart Beattie, has now officially set a Feb. 13 start date for "G.I. Joe," an event-sized film that went from a pre-strike question mark to an anchor of the studio's summer 2009 release schedule.

Paramount is in talks with up-and-comer Sam Worthington to star, and the studio was down to working out any scheduling overlap with Fox, which currently has Worthington starring in the James Cameron-directed "Avatar."

The picture joins the JJ Abrams-directed "Star Trek," the Roger Michell-directed "Morning Glory," a redo of "Friday the 13th" and "Shutter Island," a late addition to the slate that has Martin Scorsese set to direct and Leonardo DiCaprio to star.

20th Century Fox has several movies moving to the start line. While Jamie Vanderbilt and Scott Silver have been honing the script, "Wolverine" is a definite go, with a May 2009 release date. Also on the launch pad for a Dec. 12, 2008, release is "The Day the Earth Stood Still," a Scott Derrickson-directed remake of the 1951 sci-fi classic that will star Keanu Reeves as the alien visitor Klaatu.

Fox also is plotting starts for the thriller "They Came From Upstairs," "Max Payne," and the comedy "Trouble Man." Regency will add "Bride Wars," and Fox 2000 expects to make the David Frankel-directed "Marley and Me" with Jennifer Aniston and Owen Wilson, and the Nicole Kidman starrer "Monte Carlo." Fox Atomic will put three films in production: "Brad Cutter Ruined My Life Again," "Ticket to Ride," and "Jennifer's Body."

While Universal was still firming up start dates, the studio has locked enough scripts to put as many as eight films into production by next March.

They include a new romantic comedy by director Richard Curtis called "The Boat That Rocked," the Kevin Macdonald-directed "State of Play" with Brad Pitt, the Brad Silberling-directed "Land of the Lost" with Will Ferrell, "Repossession Mambo" with Jude Law and Forest Whitaker, the Paul W.S. Anderson-directed "Death Race" with Jason Statham, the Benicio Del Toro starrer "Wolfman," the Tony Gilroy-directed drama "Duplicity," and "The Fast and the Furious 4" with Justin Lin directing Vin Diesel and Paul Walker. Keanu Reeves as the alien visitor Klaatu and is on course to make a Dec. 12, 2008 release date.

Studio was less certain about several other films that included "Nottingham," the revisionist adventure that has Russell Crowe poised to play the Sheriff of Nottingham for director Ridley Scott. Both of them are in Morocco shooting the WB film "Body of Lies" with Leonardo DiCaprio.

Disney, which has not been a prolific supplier under Oren Aviv, plans to put seven movies in production by March. Studio starts with "Shopaholic" in early January, followed by the Adam Sandler-Adam Shankman comedy "Bedtime Stories," a reinvention of "Witch Mountain" that stars Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, two transfers of Disney Channel hits in "High School Musical 3" and "Hannah Montana," Sandra Bullock starrer "The Proposal," and "Christmas Carol," the Robert Zemeckis-directed film that features Jim Carrey in numerous roles. Most of those films were long planned, and not stimulated by a strike deadline. Studio hoped to move forward with another tentpole, "Prince of Persia," but likely will have to wait until a labor resolution.

DreamWorks, which just began production on the Peter Jackson-directed "The Lovely Bones," scheduled November starts for the Emma Roberts/Don Cheadle starrer "Hotel for Dogs" and the DJ Caruso-directed Shia LaBeouf starrer "Eagle Eye."

DreamWorks starts production of the Jamie Foxx-Robert Downey Jr. starrer "The Soloist," the Brian Robbins-directed Eddie Murphy comedy "A Thousands Words" and "Wednesday," a thriller directed by Juan Fresnadillo ("28 Weeks Later"). Not on the pre-strike list is "Transformers 2," a sequel that is still being written. Labor talks will determine whether the visual effects-heavy film makes its projected June 26, 2009, release date.

Columbia Pictures had finalized starts on the "Da Vinci Code" sequel "Angels & Demons" with Ron Howard directing Tom Hanks, a Tony Scott-directed remake of "The Taking Of Pelham 123" that just got John Travolta to star alongside Denzel Washington, the Gabriele Muccino-directed "Seven Pounds." Studio is just getting under way with the Judd Apatow-produced comedy "Year One" with Jack Black, Michael Cera and director Harold Ramis.

While Warner Bros. has set a start date on the Jim Carrey comedy "Yes Man," the studio was still working out several production start possibilities on several tentpole-sized films. The studio has been working with screenwriter Eric Roth and director Mira Nair to trim the budget on the adventure drama "Shantaram," with the film's producer, Johnny Depp, standing by to star.

After making a distribution deal with financier Halcyon, WB has McG prepping "Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins," a film it has slotted for summer 2009. Also likely to begin production by spring is "Justice League of America," with George Miller directing.

The Weinstein Co. starts production in January on the Kevin Smith-directed comedy "Zach and Miri," "Shanghai," and "Nine," the Rob Marshall-directed adaptation of the stage musical that will star Penelope Cruz, Javier Bardem, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Marion Cotillard and Sophia Loren. Bob Weinstein's Dimension Films starts production late in the year on the Fred Durst-directed "Comeback," with Ice Cube starring.

New Line has "Four Christmases" with Vince Vaughn and Reese Witherspoon, "Ghosts of Girlfriends Past" with Matthew McConaughey and Jennifer Garner , "Seventeen" with Zac Efron and Leslie Mann, "My Sister's Keeper," the Nick Cassavetes-directed drama with Cameron Diaz and Dakota and Elle Fanning, and "Escape from New York."


http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975064"Also likely to begin production?" Ouch. LOLOLOL!!!

[ariellem]

The t-shirt is cute, but he looks like a big kid with a tablecloth tied around his neck playing in the backyard. :D
I don't like it when his pictures are reversed either. It's funny how it does make a difference.
...
"First draft..." LMAO! We need manips of ALL the drafts. I want to see the topless version - cape and tights only. ;)

I'm in total agreement with you, Serene, on your description of this manip.

Topless version - well, over in the costume thread someone mentioned "300" having regal-looking costumes; I replied that they really weren't wearing much and a "300" version of Supes would pretty much be cape, boots, \S/, and briefs. No manips yet AFAIK.


http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/256477/640/256477.jpg

:woot:

Funny!!! Hey, do you think Jack Black would come to SV as a superhero wanna-be?

[Zing79]

Tom was definitely approached by the JLA producers. What transpired after that is anyone's guess.

:ninja:
Please don't get sucked into the same trap everyone else is. I'm sure someone said something to you, but don't bet your life or credibility on it.

[Mig-El]

How would you guys feel with Tom as Supes and Hayden Christensen as Bats?

[AgentPat]

How would you guys feel with Tom as Supes and Hayden Christensen as Bats?http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/scared.jpg

[Son of Sun]

How would you guys feel with Tom as Supes and Hayden Christensen as Bats?

Hush!

If the studio execs get a wind of this, we'll see Supes & Bats VS Darth Vader in no-time... which would actually be an interesting match.

[AgentPat]

I thought about how applicable this was to post here, but it does mention Justice League, and it IS about "Lex Luthor," kinda sorta, soooooo.... LOL

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Kevin Spacey Talks Superman Returns 2 & Justice League Rumors!

In an exclusive interview we conducted today we got actor Kevin Spacey, to give us the scoop on the Superman Returns sequel as well as those nasty little Justice League of America rumors! Take a look...

Q: Can you give us the scoop on Superman Returns 2?
Kevin Spacey: There are no developments right now. I know as much as the rest of the world knows.

Q: So there are no plans to go into production?
Kevin Spacey: Not that I knows of. I'm signed to do it, but I don't know anything about the storyline or the shooting schedule at this point.

Q: What about these Justice League of America rumors? Are you going to be involved in the film?
Kevin Spacey: Though I've heard the same rumors, no one has approached me about this.

http://www.superheroflix.com/news/38/23938.php

[Thunder Emperor]

Seriously Pat, what is wrong with WB. do they have their act together or should we just forget about this flick

[Billy Batson]

Seriously Pat, what is wrong with WB. do they have their act together or should we just forget about this flick

Happy Halloween. :woot:

Yeah forget about this flick or any other with the Well'ster wearing the Birthright. :csad: :down

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superman-lives/tomwellingsupes2.jpg

^ TRICK or TREAT? :cmad: or :wow:

[Superman_]

Well, personally I'm almost out of hope but what I do have is hanging on by a very thin thread....

I hope some miracle happens and Tom is still Superman in the JLA film but I'm definitely not holding my breath.

:(

Sad but true.I say never saay never because you have to look at it this way. Tom Welling could (if he wants the role) play Superman either for JL or if they chose to just reboot or revamp the Superman series in a hole new direction different from Singer he could wind up as Superman for that. So there is still a good chance of him being Superman and more then likely if he takes the role in JLA he could be doing both. I know right now it may not look like he will be Superman in the solo movies because Singer is stilled signed on and the WB is still going with his sequel but if he leaves that opens the door for Welling depending on who ever the director is.

[Syncos]

How would you guys feel with Tom as Supes and Hayden Christensen as Bats?

C'mon now, we can't have a pretty boy for both Supes AND Batman. >.>

[Billy Batson]

In the words of Amanda Waller "Why is it that Superheroes are always so good looking?" :up:

[zerohour films]

In the words of Amanda Waller "Why is it that Superheroes are always so good looking?" :up:


Because their..Super??

But yeah no thanks for me with having HC as Bats.
Just don't see it.

[JackMercy]

"Also likely to begin production?" Ouch. LOLOLOL!!!


Just for your...clarification...

Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975064.html?categoryid=2821&cs=1) has amended their article, and changed the wording to:

"Also, Warners is hoping to begin production in the spring on "Justice League," with George Miller directing."


;)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If I was a betting man

Justice League does not happen

The Best Case Scenario - WB hires G & M & they do a Smallville Superman movie & Smallville ends this year & next year Kara gets her spin off

The Desperation Scenario - The WB lets Singer do his sequel out of desperation for needing a 2009 summer movie

Like I said before a Smallville Superman movie will be the WBs last resort & that last resort is coming

[triplet]

Just for your...clarification...

Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975064.html?categoryid=2821&cs=1) has amended their article, and changed the wording to:

"Also, Warners is hoping to begin production in the spring on "Justice League," with George Miller directing."


;)

So, what does that mean? JLA isn't happening now?

:confused:

Or is it being delayed because their cast has conflicts that require them to start later?

*cough*

;) :ninja:

[ariellem]

In the words of Amanda Waller "Why is it that Superheroes are always so good looking?" :up:

Trying to increase the female & gay male demographics?

[JackMercy]

If I was a betting man

Justice League does not happen

The Best Case Scenario - WB hires G & M & they do a Smallville Superman movie & Smallville ends this year & next year Kara gets her spin off

The Desperation Scenario - The WB lets Singer do his sequel out of desperation for needing a 2009 summer movie



If I were a betting man...

You could knock off number three... :word:


Unfortunately, there's another option...

They could choose not to do either right now...

And nothing happens... for a while...


...Or until Smallville stops making money...

;)

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If Justice League does not happen & depending on how long the strike lasts nothing could happen for next year big screen wise.

[ZIPBAGS]

Its probably too late. But, it would have made for a fun campaign to have all Welling as Supes fans send the following picture to Warner. Similar to the "nuts" campaign by the Save Jericho fans.
:)

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superman-lives/tomwellingsupes2.jpg

[Billy Batson]

Trying to increase the female & gay male demographics?

Hey! if it sales tickets, why not? :cwink:

[AgentPat]

Just for your...clarification...

Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975064.html?categoryid=2821&cs=1) has amended their article, and changed the wording to:

"Also, Warners is hoping to begin production in the spring on "Justice League," with George Miller directing."Holy.... They *did* change it! :eek:

Aight, what's up with THAT? :confused:

Aww... man, I hope that doesn't mean they decided to wait till after the other two franchises are done. :csad:

Could Nolan have pissed and moaned that much, or are they really up a creek for casting?

This sux not knowing. *sigh*

...Unfortunately, there's another option...

They could choose not to do either right now...

And nothing happens... for a while...

...Or until Smallville stops making money...Wait until SV stops making money? Pfft. Have a Snickers, we could be here a while. LOL

Jeeze, so much potential sitting right under their noses - not to mention also "under contract." *cough*

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Its probably too late. But, it would have made for a fun campaign to have all Welling as Supes fans send the following picture to Warner. Similar to the "nuts" campaign by the Save Jericho fans.
:)

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superman-lives/tomwellingsupes2.jpg

No doubt. That's what we should have done.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

double-post.

[triplet]

If I were a betting man...

You could knock off number three... :word:


Unfortunately, there's another option...

They could choose not to do either right now...

And nothing happens... for a while...


...Or until Smallville stops making money...

;)

*facepalm*

[AgentPat]

*facepalm*LOL!!!

It's tough being a fan, init? :woot:

[triplet]

LOL!!!

It's tough being a fan, init? :woot:

Yeah, sad but oh so true....

Why don't they just do it?

I hope it doesn't get sent into development hell. This film sounds terrific...

Even better if Tom is cast, but I thought WB needed this film? Why would they delay or put a film back into development that is needed as a tentpole for their 2009 summer season?

It doesn't make sense...

I think this is a time for Jack to be less enigmatic.

[Superman_]

Now in all fairness guys what makes you think a SV the movie basically would have done much better then Superman Returns??? I mean in all honesty Superman fan are just as split about SV if not more and the general public really pretty much accepted Returns as much as they did SV. So really what makes you guys think it would have done much better? I understand the want to see Welling as Superman because I want to see him as Superman as well but would it have really been a much better movie??? No, wait let me rephrase that would have really done much better? Also before you guys start to say as soon as Welling was rumored to be Superman for JL IESB boards went crazy because that is true but it is true also that it was by the same posters I see over here and BlueTights. While when I go over to other sites besides the two I mention I see alot more wanting either Routh for the role or a sequel to SR or don't want Routh or a sequel but also don't want Welling as well. Hell even in comic shops just talking with fans about the movie who don't even post don't want to see Welling or a SV the movie. So once again I keep seeing that is the way we should have gone and people saying "WB your a fool if you don't cast Welling." But how many people outside of the die hard fan base really care or want to see him as Superman?

[Superman_]

Yeah, sad but oh so true....

Why don't they just do it?

One way or another, just make it or kill it?

I hope it doesn't get sent into development hell. This film sounds terrific...

Even better if Tom is cast, but I thought WB needed this film? Why would they delay or put a film back into development that is needed as a tentpole for their 2009 summer season?

It doesn't make sense...

I think this is a time for Jack to be less enigmatic.Right now the WB would be smart and put M.O.S. out instead of JL to go up against Spider-Man 4 to give the public a reason on why they killed Singer's series, because if JL goes up against Spidey 4 I have a feeling Spidey will destory it.

[ZIPBAGS]

If they don't go with a Justice League movie. They can always do a World's Finest movie. With just Supes and Bats. Just use Timm's animated movie for the story. :D

[Migu-EL]

Now in all fairness guys what makes you think a SV the movie basically would have done much better then Superman Returns??? I mean in all honesty Superman fan are just as split about SV if not more and the general public really pretty much accepted Returns as much as they did SV. So really what makes you guys think it would have done much better? I understand the want to see Welling as Superman because I want to see him as Superman as well but would it have really been a much better movie??? No, wait let me rephrase that would have really done much better? Also before you guys start to say as soon as Welling was rumored to be Superman for JL IESB boards went crazy because that is true but it is true also that it was by the same posters I see over here and BlueTights. While when I go over to other sites besides the two I mention I see alot more wanting either Routh for the role or a sequel to SR or don't want Routh or a sequel but also don't want Welling as well. Hell even in comic shops just talking with fans about the movie who don't even post don't want to see Welling or a SV the movie. So once again I keep seeing that is the way we should have gone and people saying &quot;WB your a fool if you don't cast Welling.&quot; But how many people outside of the die hard fan base really care or want to see him as Superman?

Wasn't there a polls taken on general news sites like msn.com that asked who should be cast as Superman and Tom Welling won by a landslide?I think AgentPat has the actual links.

[Migu-EL]

Now in all fairness guys what makes you think a SV the movie basically would have done much better then Superman Returns??? I mean in all honesty Superman fan are just as split about SV if not more and the general public really pretty much accepted Returns as much as they did SV. So really what makes you guys think it would have done much better? I understand the want to see Welling as Superman because I want to see him as Superman as well but would it have really been a much better movie??? No, wait let me rephrase that would have really done much better? Also before you guys start to say as soon as Welling was rumored to be Superman for JL IESB boards went crazy because that is true but it is true also that it was by the same posters I see over here and BlueTights. While when I go over to other sites besides the two I mention I see alot more wanting either Routh for the role or a sequel to SR or don't want Routh or a sequel but also don't want Welling as well. Hell even in comic shops just talking with fans about the movie who don't even post don't want to see Welling or a SV the movie. So once again I keep seeing that is the way we should have gone and people saying &quot;WB your a fool if you don't cast Welling.&quot; But how many people outside of the die hard fan base really care or want to see him as Superman?

Edit: Stupid double post!:cmad:

[triplet]

Right now the WB would be smart and put M.O.S. out instead of JL to go up against Spider-Man 4 to give the public a reason on why they killed Singer's series, because if JL goes up against Spidey 4 I have a feeling Spidey will destory it.

I'm not sure how you figure that MOS would automatically make more than a JLA film but it doesn't matter how you think that might be possible.

They don't have a script.

There's no way they're going to get one before midnight and the writers are walking....

Without a script, there's no way that MOS could go into production before the actors and directors strike on July 1st.

[triplet]

*sigh*

[triplet]

bugger...

[The Incredible Hulk]

Right now the WB would be smart and put M.O.S. out instead of JL to go up against Spider-Man 4 to give the public a reason on why they killed Singer's series, because if JL goes up against Spidey 4 I have a feeling Spidey will destory it.


worst. logic. ever.

[KalKai]

LOL.. nonsense.

[Mike22]

So just out of curiosity, if Welling isn`t in this movie, what are the chances of him being in the reboot that`s most likely happening?

Or will they go with the JL superman.
I guess the casting of the new superman movie will depend on the success of the JL.

I personally think they`ve already hired Welling as superman and are just throwing us off with with stupid casting like Scott Porter. I mean seriously, what the hell, the guy looks NOTHING like superman and he looks like a kid. Pretty obvious that the WB are just screwing with us because they want as much buzz about this movie as possible.

On the other hand, Duhamel is another story, he looks veeeery little like superman, but..... that`s something I can see the studio go for if he impressed them.
I hope to God not but it`s not impossible.

IMO There is only one and one alone that should be playing superman and that`s Welling.

[DvilDog]

Right now the WB would be smart and put M.O.S. out instead of JL to go up against Spider-Man 4 to give the public a reason on why they killed Singer's series, because if JL goes up against Spidey 4 I have a feeling Spidey will destory it.

Do you have brain damage?

[Gmanofsteel]

Right now the WB would be smart and put M.O.S. out instead of JL to go up against Spider-Man 4 to give the public a reason on why they killed Singer's series, because if JL goes up against Spidey 4 I have a feeling Spidey will destory it.

LOL Spidey 4 would DESTORY Singer's sequel :p

[BenReilly]

LOL Spidey 4 would DESTORY Singer's sequel :p

Spider-Man 4 would destroy any new Superman film, even one with Welling in the lead. Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise.

[Eddie Brock]

Let's see...I'm a movie-goer. I can choose between JL or SM4.

Hmmm...a movie about a VARIETY of superheros - many of whom never have (and never will again) graced the big screen...or another Spider-Man movie - especially one which I don't believe should be made anyway. SM3 should've been the last of this series.

Tough call. :whatever:

[DvilDog]

Spider-Man 4 would destroy any new Superman film, even one with Welling in the lead. Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise.


YEAH!!!! Especially after Spiderman 3 got such good reviews:whatever:

[BenReilly]

YEAH!!!! Especially after Spiderman 3 got such good reviews:whatever:

I was referring to box office numbers, not critical acclaim.

[Eddie Brock]

I was referring to box office numbers, not critical acclaim.
...which over time go hand-in-hand.

[Gmanofsteel]

Spider-Man 4 would destroy any new Superman film, even one with Welling in the lead. Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise.

I never said a Welling Superman film would . . .

[DvilDog]

Sure it did well in the box office because everyone of the average joe fans that went to see it thought it was going to be like the 1st and 2nd one. Sadly didnt even come close. What could have been a great movie was less than average after it was all said and done. Sure sony filled their pockets but after its all said and done I cant believe they are taking the risk to do another one just for the sake of making the all mighty dollar. Wait nevermind i can. Sony is no different than WB in that aspect.

"Yes lets run the Spiderman franchise into the ground and suck every last dime out of the fans until they can no longer even stand to look at a spider and kill them on site.

[AgentPat]

...which over time go hand-in-hand.Critical acclaim doesn't have a substantial influence on B.O. tallies, just like the B.O. has zero influence on critical acclaim, though B.O. has shown to be influential in garnering award's recognition. That's not because those films are examples of cinematic excellence. Hollywood is a business, and EXTREMELY successful films (read: box office blockbusters) get recognition for their success.

Variety (http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117917462.html?categoryID=31&cs=1) reviewed My Big Fat Greek Wedding and said the film was "directed with a visually uninspired, workmanlike competency that didn't even transcend the director's TV roots." But the dumb comedy was nominated for an Oscar for Original Screenplay as well as two Golden Globes for Best Motion Picture (Musical or Comedy) and Best Actress. Why? Because the pic was produced on a 5 million dollar budget and it grossed $370M dollars worldwide!!! It was in theaters for a WHOLE year. That sucker made HUGE coin. A quick glance at the film's IMDb page says it had 16 wins & 22 nominations in various awards' competitions. Was it a "great" film? Faaaaaaack no. LOL

But back to the topic at hand. I see people are still arguing "what if" scenarios. You know folks, if the queen had balls, she'd be king. Who the hell knows what a Welling-headed Superman flick would do at the box office? Back in '04/'05, I said SR would make at LEAST $300M just because it was Superman. Yeah, okay. Next? :rolleyes:

B.O. analysts said Transformers would be a two quadrant film at best and be lucky to pass the $200M mark (most just thought it would break even.) Despite having already been released on home video, the pic is STILL in theaters and has grossed $319M domestic and $702M worldwide. In the words of Sam Witwicky, "who knew?"

I never said a Welling Superman film would . . .Exactly. I don't think any comic property would right now. Even Transformers didn't, and it was an immensely popular film with a built-in audience.

Fact of the matter is, you just can't predict the B.O. Nobody can. Weird poop happens, and it may or may not have anything to do with the script, never mind the casting. I think most studios are happy if they can make back their production budgets quickly (within three or four weeks if not sooner), so that foreign distribution pre-sales, home video, TV and cable broadcast fees, and ancillary profits from various marketing and franchise rights make for a very thick gravy. Look at the X-Files film franchise. The first film did so so, Chris Carter sued Fox over how the syndication profits were divvied up, and the film is STILL getting a sequel:
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975124

Don't let anybody fool ya; a built-in audience is box office gold to a studio, regardless of how it's achieved. Television reaches millions and millions of people across the globe. Nielsen's five million a week tallies for SV are meaningless when the show has sold hundreds of millions of dollars in DVD box sets, been on the air for seven years, and syndicated in various foreign markets from here to Timbuktu.

[Serene]

Well, at least Miller's still talking about making this movie.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22663722-15803,00.html

[Thunder Emperor]

Well, at least Miller's still talking about making this movie.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22663722-15803,00.html

You this article is more telling than you think Serene. The article say in two weeks, WB will get a 40 % take break if this movie is considered Australian. Which maybe by why we will here the cast least in two weeks. Which would means Wb can make this movie for way less over there. Which would also mean the Would need an Australian actress for WW. Two weeks from now is also close to the 18th. So it seems we should just chill till then. I can see why WB is taking their time announcing the cast and anything else

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Well, at least Miller's still talking about making this movie.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22663722-15803,00.html

Maybe they are waiting on that before they announce anything :huh:

[Superman_]

I'm not sure how you figure that MOS would automatically make more than a JLA film but it doesn't matter how you think that might be possible.

They don't have a script.

There's no way they're going to get one before midnight and the writers are walking....

Without a script, there's no way that MOS could go into production before the actors and directors strike on July 1st.I am not saying it would make more what I am saying is if they really wanted a reason to kill off Singer's Superman series then put it up against Spider-Man and say due to poor box office once again we will start over.

[Superman_]

LOL Spidey 4 would DESTORY Singer's sequel :pThats my point it gives the WB a reason to kill the series. With SR they don't have to much of a reason to kill it but having it fail to Spider-Man would.

[triplet]

I am not saying it would make more what I am saying is if they really wanted a reason to kill off Singer's Superman series then put it up against Spider-Man and say due to poor box office once again we will start over.

I don't know if making MOS is a good idea if you want to kill Singer's version. Why spend more money on a franchise that is already a loser?

But in any event, it won't happen. MOS doesn't have a script and there's no way it'll get into production next year if the directors and actors follow suit and join the writers in a walk-out.

[Superman_]

I don't know if making MOS is a good idea if you want to kill Singer's version. Why spend more money on a franchise that is already a loser?

But in any event, it won't happen. MOS doesn't have a script and there's no way it'll get into production next year if the directors and actors follow suit and join the writers in a walk-out.Even though M.O.S doesn't have a script SM 4 doesn't either but is still coming out in 2009. Hell M.O.S is in a better spot then Spidey because it does have a cast and director while Spidey doesn't have any at the moment. Superman Returns was not a failure. You may not have liked it but it was received well. As Mark Millar semi- stated on his board they are looking to do a sequel to Singer's movie so that tells you there they still were semi-pleased with SR or they would not have already signed Singer for the sequel or had other people who work for them come flat out and say they were pleased and want a sequel. Some how ever were not pleased with the movie and would like to start over so what I would have done is put it up against Spider-Man 4 and say they need to pull in at least 220 million or something around there. If they don't do at that they will go in another direction. Thats your best option because putting JL up against Spier-Man is more of a risk because your risking all your heroes. I am just saying this work better because the Spidey crew wants to erase the mistakes it made with Spidey 3 to its fans and I think they will blow away any movie in 2009.

[phil]

Even though M.O.S doesn't have a script SM 4 doesn't either but is still coming out in 2009. Hell M.O.S is in a better spot then Spidey because it does have a cast and director while Spidey doesn't have any at the moment. Superman Returns was not a failure. You may not have liked it but it was received well. As Mark Millar semi- stated on his board they are looking to do a sequel to Singer's movie so that tells you there they still were semi-pleased with SR or they would not have already signed Singer for the sequel or had other people who work for them come flat out and say they were pleased and want a sequel. Some how ever were not pleased with the movie and would like to start over so what I would have done is put it up against Spider-Man 4 and say they need to pull in at least 220 million or something around there. If they don't do at that they will go in another direction. Thats your best option because putting JL up against Spier-Man is more of a risk because your risking all your heroes. I am just saying this work better because the Spidey crew wants to erase the mistakes it made with Spidey 3 to its fans and I think they will blow away any movie in 2009.

With all due respect you buddy your talking to a brick wall. There's no way in hell SR was recieved well, no way. Just the fact that Superman the most popular Superhero couldn't even do half of what Spiderman did is all the proof you need. SR needed to make a boat load of money just to break even and it did not. The SR fans always act like SR money was magic like the theaters do not get a cut of that box office etc, etc.
Putting up the JL against Spidy is more of a risk? Please again with all due respect the regulars in this thread were not born yesterday. Singer's Superman was subpar at very very best, to say that a bigbudget JL film will be more risky than Sr is just ignorant. People will flock to the theater to see the JL because it's never happened been and never been done on the bigscreen especially with a bigbudget and modern day technology that to me SR ignored. The SR franchise is one big campy homage to Richard Donner and that didn't appeal to the public. All it did was throw the negative broken home life back into the audience's face when it should have given them entertainment to get away from that negativity. It did nothing but leave bad buzz even to this day.

The biggest risk with SR is spending money to try again, it doesn't matter who or what movie it goes up against. There could actually be no competition and it would still be an uphill battle. Rebooting Superman with the man the fans want and the man that created a HUGE internet buzz as the Man of Steel is what they need to compete with Spiderman.

It's my opinion and I look at it as a fact that this JL movie will stand tall with the first two Spiderman movies in every way and actually give us a Superman that is worthy of the character.

[The Incredible Hulk]

I am not saying it would make more what I am saying is if they really wanted a reason to kill off Singer's Superman series then put it up against Spider-Man and say due to poor box office once again we will start over.


I stand corrected. This is the

worst. logic. ever.

[Showtime]

Thats my point it gives the WB a reason to kill the series. With SR they don't have to much of a reason to kill it but having it fail to Spider-Man would.

They already have a reason, it's called Superman Returns? :huh:

[triplet]

Even though M.O.S doesn't have a script SM 4 doesn't either but is still coming out in 2009. Hell M.O.S is in a better spot then Spidey because it does have a cast and director while Spidey doesn't have any at the moment. Superman Returns was not a failure. You may not have liked it but it was received well. As Mark Millar semi- stated on his board they are looking to do a sequel to Singer's movie so that tells you there they still were semi-pleased with SR or they would not have already signed Singer for the sequel or had other people who work for them come flat out and say they were pleased and want a sequel. Some how ever were not pleased with the movie and would like to start over so what I would have done is put it up against Spider-Man 4 and say they need to pull in at least 220 million or something around there. If they don't do at that they will go in another direction. Thats your best option because putting JL up against Spier-Man is more of a risk because your risking all your heroes. I am just saying this work better because the Spidey crew wants to erase the mistakes it made with Spidey 3 to its fans and I think they will blow away any movie in 2009.

I am still mystified by your logic...

If what some have said is true, MOS ain't happening and they're not going to throw good money after bad if they're really done with Singer.

[phil]

They already have a reason, it's called Superman Returns? :huh:

It can't be any more obvious my friend. I can't wait until we can put this SR thing to rest once and for all.


Now for the life of me after that last SV episode with Welling walking away from that cape flapping in the wind how can we try another actor in that role?? If Welling is cast it will make it very easy to market the Superman part of it. Then you have the dude from Transformers as Batman, wow to me even though I like Bale this guy will become the new face of Batman. He will bring in the Transformer fans of that movie. I just hope if these two are cast they give them a look worthy of the comics meaning the look that the general public will relate most to like Spiderman. These guys could easily produce the eyecandy these characters need to get the general public buzzing. The JL is going to be very easy to market.

[Showtime]

I have been of the thoughts that Welling wasn't going to be cast for a long while now. If he is, then that will be good for JLA, if he isn't then we'll have to see who the new Superman is going to be.

I just watched Sanchez announcing Welling for JLA again on tv. How things have gone up and down since then.

[Sebastos]

I am not saying it would make more what I am saying is if they really wanted a reason to kill off Singer's Superman series then put it up against Spider-Man and say due to poor box office once again we will start over.

:huh:

[AgentPat]

:huh:Dumb, init? "Lets spend $200M to make a film so we can kill it."

I'm not even going to *try* to understand the logic there - not that it's even an option to begin with.

You want to kill a franchise? You buy out the director's contract and bid him adieu. Publicly site "creative differences," hire a new director, and start over. Jeeze. How easy is that? :rolleyes:

[Showtime]

z9cZvKOZaXg

:csad:

[triplet]

Dumb, init? "Lets spend $200M to make a film so we can kill it."

I'm not even going to *try* to understand the logic there - not that it's even an option to begin with.

You want to kill a franchise? You buy out the director's contract and bid him adieu. Publicly site "creative differences," hire a new director, and start over. Jeeze. How easy is that? :rolleyes:

Quoted for Truth!

[Prison Mike]

z9cZvKOZaXg

:csad:

this makes me sad :csad:

[triplet]

this makes me sad :csad:

Yeah, I didn't even want to watch it...

:(

[OobeDoobBenubi]

The only thing that came out of that was that George Miller was announced. The CGI thing was being considered but it then changed to Live Action completely & well we are at a stand still with the other thing announced in that video.

[ZIPBAGS]

Thanks Showtime for ruining my evening. ;)

[TWistim]

It can't be any more obvious my friend. I can't wait until we can put this SR thing to rest once and for all.


Now for the life of me after that last SV episode with Welling walking away from that cape flapping in the wind how can we try another actor in that role?? If Welling is cast it will make it very easy to market the Superman part of it. Then you have the dude from Transformers as Batman, wow to me even though I like Bale this guy will become the new face of Batman. He will bring in the Transformer fans of that movie. I just hope if these two are cast they give them a look worthy of the comics meaning the look that the general public will relate most to like Spiderman. These guys could easily produce the eyecandy these characters need to get the general public buzzing. The JL is going to be very easy to market.

I'm totally tracking with the way you think!!!

[SamuraiSon6]

z9cZvKOZaXg

:csad:

its like watching a 9-11 video......

[triplet]

Oh, nevermind...

I'm being stupid.

:blush:

[The Incredible Hulk]

its like watching a 9-11 video......

that's a bit much, no?

[DvilDog]

I am not saying it would make more what I am saying is if they really wanted a reason to kill off Singer's Superman series then put it up against Spider-Man and say due to poor box office once again we will start over.

I stand by my first question? Do you have brain damage? WB throwing 200 million down the toilet is like you going to by a new porche just to see what it would look like flying off a cliff and blowing up in a gorge.

[Prison Mike]

I was in the JL forum and I said I want Welling as Superman. There was an entire page of people basically saying "what's wrong with you?". Don't go there if you don't want to be chewed out. lol

[Gmanofsteel]

I was in the JL forum and I said I want Welling as Superman. There was an entire page of people basically saying "what's wrong with you?". Don't go there if you don't want to be chewed out. lol

If they have the freedom to be jackasses, I have the freedom to post where I want and say what I want :supes::up:

[Bad Superman]

I was in the JL forum and I said I want Welling as Superman. There was an entire page of people basically saying "what's wrong with you?". Don't go there if you don't want to be chewed out. lol

Unfortunately that goes both ways pro and con. In the fans view you have to pick sides you can't be neutral.

<-------- Superman wars veteran

[triplet]

Hmm...

I'm not sure I'd be willing to put up with getting bashed again like I used to get back in the day.

I'll just wait and see what happens.

But someone over on IESB posted this link:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-striketvgrid-html,0,7606966.htmlstory?coll=la-home-center

It gives an idea of how far along some shows will be when the writers walk.

Smallville isn't mentioned by name, but I know their schedule is similar to SPN and they are listed in the chart as:

Has 10-12 episodes completed; Those shows also have roughly five scripts that are ready to shoot.

Things that make you want to say hmmm...

[Sebastos]

Interesting.

[Prison Mike]

I would like to at least see Green Arrow before the episodes finish.

[KalKai]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php

For some time now we've heard about the possibility of industry strikes and how they might derail up-coming movies, but with the Writer's Guild of America (WGA) sanctioning the strike process this week, little has been said about how this might affect TV shows (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php#).

Will "Smallville (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php#)" be affected by the strikes? Quite possibly according to Executive Producer Al Gough.

"Yes, it will affect all scripted TV", Al Gough told the Superman Homepage. "Not sure what this means for the season, that depends on how long the strike lasts. But if it's a long one, you won't see new episodes after the middle of February."

"Please understand that no writer (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php#) wants a strike," adds Gough, "but the issues we are fighting for will determine not only our future in the digital age, but the future of generations of writers to come. If we don't take a stand now, that future will look pretty bleak."

If the strikes do impact on "Smallville" what will it mean for the current season?

"If the season is cut short, we have planned for a cliffhanger", explains Al Gough. "That's all I can really say right now."

:ninja:

[Gmanofsteel]

Interesting. But I'm not following the speculation. Do you suspect something beyond what is written? :ninja:


Oh, and btw... another I-Net poll closes with a winnah:
http://www.comicsalliance.com/gallery/the-top-15-hottest-hunks-of-comics-gallery/416084/

Can you say, landslide? LOL :p ;) :D


I think the one for women is still open, but Jessica Alba is smoking that poll too, so here they are kids:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/TeenChoice04-4a.jpg

:hyper:



Welling owns :up:

[Gmanofsteel]

you said it :(

[TWistim]

Anybody have a clue what kind of a cliffhanger Al is planning? :wow:

[zerohour films]

Well, I guess this is another tidbit to keep us talking until an official announcment is made.

[Serene]

Yeah, I think I'm gonna go turn off my IESB subscriptions now. It was quiet for about two days, but those peeps are gonna RUN with this like Randy Moss on his way to the goal posts. LOL :p ;) :D

I haven't been checking there anymore. I can't deal with the immature trolls running wild. Does it seem odd to anyone else that we aren't getting ANY new information (or even false scoops) from either Robert or Emi? Perhaps there just isn't anything new to report, but for a while there it seemed like the leaks were fast and furious. Even if they were all b.s. it was still people talking about the movie. It's like there's been a gag order issued or something. :ninja:

[rumpuso]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php

For some time now we've heard about the possibility of industry strikes and how they might derail up-coming movies, but with the Writer's Guild of America (WGA) sanctioning the strike process this week, little has been said about how this might affect TV shows (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php#).

Will "Smallville (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php#)" be affected by the strikes? Quite possibly according to Executive Producer Al Gough.

"Yes, it will affect all scripted TV", Al Gough told the Superman Homepage. "Not sure what this means for the season, that depends on how long the strike lasts. But if it's a long one, you won't see new episodes after the middle of February."

"Please understand that no writer (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php#) wants a strike," adds Gough, "but the issues we are fighting for will determine not only our future in the digital age, but the future of generations of writers to come. If we don't take a stand now, that future will look pretty bleak."

If the strikes do impact on "Smallville" what will it mean for the current season?

"If the season is cut short, we have planned for a cliffhanger", explains Al Gough. "That's all I can really say right now."

:ninja:


I'm sorry if this is an ignorant question, or has been discussed, but if Smallville runs new episodes through February and then they are out of ones that have been written before this strike, will the writers pick up their pens again once the strike is finished in order to conclude the remainder of the season. Or, is this season now a complete bust?

[mellyM]

I'm sorry if this is an ignorant question, or has been discussed, but if Smallville runs new episodes through February and then they are out of ones that have been written before this strike, will the writers pick up their pens again once the strike is finished in order to conclude the remainder of the season. Or, is this season now a complete bust?

If the strike isn't too long they can finish up, i know SV has about 14 scripts finished. I'm hoping for a miracle this weekend, so far they've been recommended to strike, if they do, hopefully it won't last long so it won't effect the schedule too much. If it goes into months then it could effect whether or not we see a full season, but hopefully that won't happen, thats a lot of lost revenue for the networks to say the least.

[triplet]

Interesting. But I'm not following the speculation. Do you suspect something beyond what is written? :ninja:

Well, if the strike is lengthy they will be out of new episodes to air by the middle of february... Gough confirmed it in the interview with Younis over on SHP.

If they're out of episodes then, then there will be no conflict with Smallville in February for Tom's schedule.

Just something to consider. I hope that the strike doesn't last that long, but if it does then Smallville won't be a problem for JLA and Tom.

If he still has a chance to be in it and if they're even still going to make it, that is...

*sigh*


Oh, and btw... another I-Net poll closes with a winnah:
http://www.comicsalliance.com/gallery/the-top-15-hottest-hunks-of-comics-gallery/416084/

Can you say, landslide? LOL :p ;) :D


I think the one for women is still open, but Jessica Alba is smoking that poll too, so here they are kids:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/TeenChoice04-4a.jpg

:hyper:

Awesome!

:D

[sunflowercyn]

Craig from K-site has posted that by this Monday the Smallville writers will have written episode 7.16 so the cliffhanger will be on epsiode 16 folks...

[avidreader]

If the strike isn't too long they can finish up, i know SV has about 14 scripts finished. I'm hoping for a miracle this weekend, so far they've been recommended to strike, if they do, hopefully it won't last long so it won't effect the schedule too much. If it goes into months then it could effect whether or not we see a full season, but hopefully that won't happen, thats a lot of lost revenue for the networks to say the least.


My mind went first to all the people that work on the shows and I dont mean just the actors. If they arent working, then I would assume that they dont get paid. :csad:

[Syncos]

Craig from K-site has posted that by this Monday the Smallville writers will have written episode 7.16 so the cliffhanger will be on epsiode 16 folks...

Not necessarily. They might set up a hiatus so that they can bring back new content at a specific time.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

From here to Timbuktu Tom Welling is the face of SUPERMAN, and the reason Superman Returns failed was because it was a Superman movie without SUPERMAN in it.

Then the story further backed that up by the bad writing team making him an idiot, bastard father, peeping tom! heh Tom.

Anyway Singer blew it, and that much is clear, and if Tom isn't cast as Superman in JLA, and then a reboot spin off then the WB will be just making another mistake after a very costly one.

The truth is as hard as many would like to admit it but SMALLVILLE is without a doubt the live version of Superman that has brought in the most money EVER for the WB.

The show is the top rated show on the network, and like was said the dvd sales alone account for hundreds of millions... And in the end Tom Welling would end up playing the live version of the character Clark Kent/Superman more then anyone else!

Like it or not folks Tom Welling is Superman, and if the WB wants to make their Superman franchises money makers they better do whatever it takes to hire this generations Superman if not I see the fans *****ing at every other cheap water down version they throw out there.

Awesome post. Hope someone at Warner is paying attention to this. It all boils down to what you said. How can you make a Superman movie or JLA movie with Superman without Superman being in it...?!
It sucks that Smallville will be affected by the strike, on another hand it can give Tom the time needed to be in JLA and maybe just maybe we aren't hearing anything because Warner was waiting for the strike to ciment a deal with Tom.

[Billy Batson]

I say demote BR to JLA and allow Welling to reboot MOS.
The WB can care less what we think. :csad:

[DvilDog]

Here it comes. Wait for it....


waiting.... :woot:

[phil]

I say demote BR to JLA and allow Welling to reboot MOS.
The WB can care less what we think. :csad:
You have to be freaking kidding me

:huh:
"demote" Routh to the biggest most antisipated superhero of all time????? What are you talking about?
Welling is Superman period, JL, MOS and every new Superman movie for the generation! Routh shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Superman!

[\S/JcDc\S/]

You have to be freaking kidding me

:huh:
"demote" Routh to the biggest most antisipated superhero of all time????? What are you talking about?
Welling is Superman period, JL, MOS and every new Superman movie for the generation! Routh shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Superman!

Routh played Superman in a movie. Welling plays Clark Kent on a tv show. Whether people liked SR or not, most will concur Routh did the role justice. You failed at convincing me on that one ;) I shall back out of this thread as it could be a bit flame heavy :o

[unknowndarkness]

Tom Welling is.....Nightwing?

http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_13nightwing_11.jpg

http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_13nightwing_5.jpg

http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_13nightwing_large.jpg

[blksuperman2]

^ LOL. It does sort of look like TW.

[Zorex]

The figure I definitely do see. The animated one, not so much.

[unknowndarkness]

This is amazing :gl:

-M5MeOZ9BTQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M5MeOZ9BTQ

[COMPO]

is taht real?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

is taht real?

No he clearly says in the info that it is a fake / fan trailer using other movies & look at the very end

[Eddie Brock]

is taht real?
Of course not!

It uses clips from Transformers and FF, silly! :woot:

[COMPO]

Of course not!

It uses clips from Transformers and FF, silly! :woot:

it just looked so real.:woot:

[Syncos]

Of course not!

It uses clips from Transformers and FF, silly! :woot:

I saw clips from Deja Vu, and Fantastic Four... which part was from transformers?

[blksuperman2]

is taht real?

LOL. Most of the scenes are clips from 'FF2 Rise of the Silver Surfer' and 'Deja Vu'.

LOL there was even a clip from "Willow" in there.:o

[COMPO]

which one?

[Eddie Brock]

I saw clips from Deja Vu, and Fantastic Four... which part was from transformers?
Multiple clips.

- The ship crashing.
- The F-22 Raptors at the end.
- The close-up of the couple holding hands.

[ZIPBAGS]

This is being discussed over on IESB. Can anyone tell me where this story idea came from? Is it something that is being discussed by someone at Warner?

Thanks!

Infamous_Emijayne wrote:
This is the Wizard storyline that I like for a continuation of Smallville....I would change certain elements but very few.

ULTIMATE SUPERMAN

THE ORIGIN: Rocketed from the dying planet Krypton, a lone baby lands in a Smallville, Kansas field. Adopted by Martha and Jonathan Kent, the infant is raised like any other child, but the Kents soon learn their adopted son Clark is anything but ordinary. Under the Earth’s yellow sun, he’s developed powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men.

THE CHARACTER: It’s six years removed from the world of TV’s “Smallville,” where Clark, Lex Luthor and Lana Lang all grew up together as friends. Clark’s just graduated from Kansas State University and has been offered an entry-level job at the Daily Planet.

SUPPORTING CAST: Lana’s still Clark’s girlfriend and one of the few people who knows about his extraordinary powers. But his long-distance relationship with Lana (who still resides in Smallville) is strained as Clark grows closer to fellow Planet reporter Lois Lane. Lois, a tenacious and clever reporter, is also the protégé of Planet senior writer Perry White, the man who mentors Lois and Clark in both their work and personal lives. And just as Clark settles in Metropolis, billionaire industrialist Lex Luthor reemerges after a four-year disappearance from public life. Although Clark looks forward to seeing his old friend from Smallville, something has clearly made Lex more intense, but Lex isn’t talking.

THE SET UP: After learning to control and master his powers while growing up in Smallville, Clark Kent moves to Metropolis and dons a costume to help protect the world as Superman, a name Perry White gives him after seeing him save a sabotaged Air Force One.

THE FIRST ARC: Superman wasn’t the only thing to escape Krypton. An artificial intelligence program developed by Jor-El, Superman’s father, also reached Earth. Calling itself Brainiac I, the super-computer sets its sights on turning Earth into New Krypton…just as soon as it undoes the “damage” done to Krypton’s Last Son by those who raised him human.

THE BIG PICTURE: As Clark tries to reestablish his friendship with Lex, he doesn’t realize that Lex knows he’s Superman! The catch: Lex refuses to admit it to himself. Lex feels that if Clark—who represents Lex’s only tether to a humanity that has constantly betrayed him—has been lying to him their entire lives, it’s Superman who has to pay the price.

[Prison Mike]

wow that storyline sounds great. looks like a good continuation for Smallville.

[triplet]

Tom Welling is.....Nightwing?

http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_13nightwing_large.jpg

*snort*

I have that garden gargoyle!

:D

I bought it for halloween. Whoever took those, I guess shops at Target...

;)

And the ones with the mask sorta resemble Tom (nose, mouth, square jaw), but take the mask off and any resemblance disappears.

[Sebastos]

Heh.

[triplet]

You know, I saw American Gangster tonight and I liked Common but I didn't realize he was even in it until I saw his name in the credits.

He was pretty good (there wasn't a bad actor in the bunch), but his part wasn't huge.

He'd be an interesting choice as GL, if they're even still doing this film that is.

[The Watchman]

Hoping that they don't - but if they do Common wouldn't be the worst John Stewart choice, I'd prefer Denis Haysbert myself. Question of quality being what it is, I'm almost glad they aren't using the Hal / Kyle version - leaves my deluded fantasy of an Ewan McGregor GL flick firmly in place.

All in all, I hope Welling stays away from this - if he's ever going to be Superman on the bigscreen, I'd prefer it be a restart (with no ties to Smallville whatsoever) and completely outside the Donnerverse. Suppose maybe that's a tall order.

[Showtime]

This is being discussed over on IESB. Can anyone tell me where this story idea came from? Is it something that is being discussed by someone at Warner?

Thanks!

Doesn't Perry also know that Clark is Superman from his appearance in Smallville years ago?

[shapeshifter]

Tom Welling is.....Nightwing?

http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_13nightwing_11.jpg

http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_13nightwing_5.jpg

http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_13nightwing_large.jpg
please don't
i'm going to have to work hard not to hate nightwing now.

[Billy Batson]

The unmasked nightwing look like Brad Pitt with dark hair. :wow:

http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_13nightwing_5.jpg

[Bruce_Wayne29]

This is being discussed over on IESB. Can anyone tell me where this story idea came from? Is it something that is being discussed by someone at Warner?

Thanks!

Love it, especially the thing about Lex knowing but refusing to believe it.

[Serene]

http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_13nightwing_large.jpg

I totally see the Tom resemblance when the mask is on. It's those full lips and even the nose to a lesser degree. Without the mask - notsomuch.

[The Incredible Hulk]

so, did I miss anything exciting this weekend?

[triplet]

so, did I miss anything exciting this weekend?

The writers going on strike?

:confused:

Other than that, nothing much happened....

[TheComicbookKid]

This is being discussed over on IESB. Can anyone tell me where this story idea came from? Is it something that is being discussed by someone at Warner?

Thanks!

That's from a Wizard magazine from like four years ago.(Back when Smallville still made sense:woot: ) It was a what-if to the Marvel Ultimate line. People post pics from in usually in the "what if suit redesign threads."

[shapeshifter]

The writers going on strike?

:confused:

Other than that, nothing much happened....

i doubt anyone will see even the slightest change.

[The Incredible Hulk]

not now you wont. Come February-March you will if there's no agreement.

[triplet]

i doubt anyone will see even the slightest change.

They have to cut to 16 episodes or less out of 22, how is that going to fail to be noticed?

I feel for the writers, they have been treated like crap and get no respect from the fans and producers alike.

Added to that, they get next to no money from DVD sales and not a single penny from internet streams and downloads.

I hope they get what they want.

[DvilDog]

as much as it will suck to not have the last six episodes of the season or possibly the series. Everyone deserves a fair shake, so i completely understand. The studio, actors, directors, and producers are getting their pockets filled. Why not filll the pockets of the people who actually had the imagination to write the movie or episode to begin with

[DvilDog]

stupid double post

[ZIPBAGS]

So with the Justice League movie seeming to be going nowhere. And now productions of Green Lantern & Flash moving forward. I wonder if we have a better chance of seeing Tom in a Supes reboot than a JL movie?

[DvilDog]

^anything is possible

still think we will here something on JL in the next 2 weeks to a month as to if its still going forward or not

[RakuMon]

They have to cut to 16 episodes or less out of 22, how is that going to fail to be noticed?

I feel for the writers, they have been treated like crap and get no respect from the fans and producers alike.

Added to that, they get next to no money from DVD sales and not a single penny from internet streams and downloads.

I hope they get what they want.

Personally, I think the condensed season has the potential to be a good thing.

Having a 15-episode season forces the writing to be completely focused and leave no room for filler. I know the writers have been preparing for the strike, so the season will still feel complete after episode 15. I'm actually excited. Season 7 might come off the way the Lost producers were planning their 16-episode 4th season to be.

[Chrisluvstommy]

I've never understood if people don't like Tom why come to a thread called Tom Welling as Superman?? Hmm

[DvilDog]

^its just to get a rise out of people. Welcome to my ignore list Mr. Shifter

[Migu-EL]

Way to troll buddy


Don't pay him no mind, he's just trying to get everyone riled up.:whatever:

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

i feel for the good writers.
smallville has some of the worst.
**** 'em
and the heroes stable of jackasses as well
enjoy your picket line. you worthless hacks.



would you people get over it. your emo jock will never be superman in a movie.
he's to ****ty an actor
if they make him superman I will eat my filthy soccer socks after wearing them for 3 games in a row.

The thread is titled: Tom Welling as Superman
What makes you think you can go there and bash Welling, or Smallville?
We have seen this in many threads over the past three years. The Superman Returns crowd duking it out with the Smallville posters. It's not appreciated, nor is it permitted.

You are hereby warned. Stay out of threads such as this, if your intension is to make cheap shots at the show or it's star.

Thank you.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

I've never understood if people don't like Tom why come to a thread called Tom Welling as Superman?? Hmm

Wondering that myself. :csad:

[Chrisluvstommy]

^its just to get a rise out of people. Welcome to my ignore list Mr. Shifter
Hey thanks for the info *make mental note not to get fiesty over Tom bashing*

[AgentPat]

So with the Justice League movie seeming to be going nowhere. And now productions of Green Lantern & Flash moving forward. I wonder if we have a better chance of seeing Tom in a Supes reboot than a JL movie?No clue, but dem polls are coming back again...
http://webcenter.polls.aol.com/modular.jsp?resType=7&popup=yes&pollId=125591&channel=aol_us_tv_editors_picks&view=125491&template=1441

^ That one just posted on Friday. :ninja:

(AOL is a Time Warner Co.)

[TWistim]

No clue, but dem polls are coming back again...
http://webcenter.polls.aol.com/modular.jsp?resType=7&popup=yes&pollId=125591&channel=aol_us_tv_editors_picks&view=125491&template=1441

^ That one just posted on Friday. :ninja:

(AOL is a Time Warner Co.)

Nice to see our guy getting the recognition he deserves! :heart: :D

[Prison Mike]

OUCH. Dean Cain is beating Routh. I didn't think Routh was THAT bad.

[Migu-EL]

OUCH. Dean Cain is beating Routh. I didn't think Routh was THAT bad.


LOL:woot:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

No clue, but dem polls are coming back again...
http://webcenter.polls.aol.com/modular.jsp?resType=7&popup=yes&pollId=125591&channel=aol_us_tv_editors_picks&view=125491&template=1441

^ That one just posted on Friday. :ninja:

(AOL is a Time Warner Co.)

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/9318/applauseky1.gif

[AgentPat]

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/9318/applauseky1.gif

:huh:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

:huh:

Welling is in the lead & Routh is getting beat by Cain ? That deserves a round of applause right there

[AgentPat]

Welling is in the lead & Routh is getting beat by Cain ? That deserves a round of applause right thereGotcha. I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic. :cwink:

[Prison Mike]

Maybe this poll will help determine if Welling is cast as Superman in JLA? Maybe? Yeah, probably not, but one can dream. So whatever happened to that cast list. I totally forgot about it the past couple of days. I've been too worried over exams.

[TheLongestDay]

just catching up on the latest epsiodes-this season is amazing so far IMO

[AgentPat]

Maybe this poll will help determine if Welling is cast as Superman in JLA? Maybe? Yeah, probably not, but one can dream.LOL! Polls don't decide who gets cast, but there is some reality confirmation for studios when a fan favorite matches who is cast.

So whatever happened to that cast list. I totally forgot about it the past couple of days. I've been too worried over exams.Which cast list? The rumored list for JL? Y'know, news on JL has seemingly come to a screeching halt. Hollywood may have bigger fish to fry at the moment considering the WGA strike, but something just doesn't seem right anymore. I dunno. Call it a hunch. *shrugs*

[Whiteflag]

No clue, but dem polls are coming back again...
http://webcenter.polls.aol.com/modular.jsp?resType=7&popup=yes&pollId=125591&channel=aol_us_tv_editors_picks&view=125491&template=1441

^ That one just posted on Friday. :ninja:

(AOL is a Time Warner Co.)

Thanks for the link! I always love to see Tom winning these polls! :woot:

[ZIPBAGS]

The poll is closed. :(

[triplet]

No clue, but dem polls are coming back again...
http://webcenter.polls.aol.com/modular.jsp?resType=7&popup=yes&pollId=125591&channel=aol_us_tv_editors_picks&view=125491&template=1441

^ That one just posted on Friday. :ninja:

(AOL is a Time Warner Co.)

Awesome!

Go tom!

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/9318/applauseky1.gif

:D :up:

The poll is closed. :(

Yeah, weird.

If it was only posted Friday why close it so soon?

:confused:

[AgentPat]

The poll is closed. :(:huh:

Not for me?
http://television.aol.com/tv-celebrity-interviews/laura-vandervoort/

[triplet]

:huh:

Not for me?
http://television.aol.com/tv-celebrity-interviews/laura-vandervoort/

Earlier you gave a link to the results, that's the poll....

:D

I voted!

:up:

[AgentPat]

Earlier you gave a link to the results, that's the poll....

:D

I voted!

:up:Ooopz! My bad. Sowee. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/oopz.gif

[Migu-EL]

Just voted.:up:

[zerohour films]

As did I...for what's it worth.

Hopefully we'll know soon enough.:yay:

[Prison Mike]

Man, I still can't believe Cain beating out Routh. Really? Cain? His Superman sucked.

[Whiteflag]

I voted, of course! :D

[TheLongestDay]

isnt it obvious from this poll that Tom is Superman to a whole new generation? The mythology in Smallville is rich and pays homage to the source material and donner films-without being tied to it so much that it becomes restrictive...

I still for the life of me cant understand the people who claim to love the Superman character but dont like smallville,its given me those spine tingling superman moments that i havent had since i was a kid watching christopher reeve in the suit

In short...TOM WELLING FOR SUPERMAN!!!

[Prison Mike]

isnt it obvious from this poll that Tom is Superman to a whole new generation? The mythology in Smallville is rich and pays homage to the source material and donner films-without being tied to it so much that it becomes restrictive...

I still for the life of me cant understand the people who claim to love the Superman character but dont like smallville,its given me those spine tingling superman moments that i havent had since i was a kid watching christopher reeve in the suit

In short...TOM WELLING FOR SUPERMAN!!!

There are people who claim to love Superman so much that they refuse to watch Smallville because it "disgraces" the character. I don't get the logic either. :huh:

[zerohour films]

isnt it obvious from this poll that Tom is Superman to a whole new generation? The mythology in Smallville is rich and pays homage to the source material and donner films-without being tied to it so much that it becomes restrictive...

I still for the life of me cant understand the people who claim to love the Superman character but dont like smallville,its given me those spine tingling superman moments that i havent had since i was a kid watching christopher reeve in the suit

In short...TOM WELLING FOR SUPERMAN!!!

Agreed. I mean Smallville has it's flaws storytelling wise and I don't completely agree with everything they've done. But it has to be the best Superhero television adaption I've seen. No offense to L&C or the old Flash show--or hell even previous Supes adaptions.
But Smallville has given us alot of mythology and characters from the comics that previous superhero tv shows have never done.

Like has been posted before, when they get it wrong they really get it wrong, but when they get it right they really get it right.

[Jack O Lantern]

isnt it obvious from this poll that Tom is Superman to a whole new generation? The mythology in Smallville is rich and pays homage to the source material and donner films-without being tied to it so much that it becomes restrictive...

I still for the life of me cant understand the people who claim to love the Superman character but dont like smallville,its given me those spine tingling superman moments that i havent had since i was a kid watching christopher reeve in the suit

In short...TOM WELLING FOR SUPERMAN!!!

Yeah i can never understand it when people disagree with me either.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Yeah i can never understand it when people disagree with me either.

Opinions are like *******s. Everybody has one

[TheLongestDay]

Pfft!

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Pfft!

The truth hurts

[TheLongestDay]

no it doesnt-because the truth is my opinion is all that matters because im always right,im never wrong,im the goddamn batman,and the third act in spider-man 3 was amazing........


......eerrrrrm....

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I am Chuck Norris & Chuck Norris is better then Batman in every way. Oh yes I went there :wow:

[Prison Mike]

I am Chuck Norris & Chuck Norris is better then Batman in every way. Oh yes I went there :wow:

You take that back NOW! :cmad: :oldrazz:

[TheLongestDay]

well...im done...

I cant compete with chuck norris....:(


oh by the way,did you know chuck norris doesnt have a chin? behind his beard is just another punch!!!

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Chuck Norris is awesome to the point where he doesnt need a chin. He could be a one legged & one armed man & one eyed man & he would still be cooler then Batman :woot:

[TheLongestDay]

chuck norris IS batman

...i heard a rumour he was offerd the role in the JL movie...

[B]

Has anyone got all these images (and any other from the same shoot) in a higher quality than they are in each of these images

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee231/b_0_0_m/Smallville222.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee231/b_0_0_m/tom009dh4.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee231/b_0_0_m/Smallville-Crusade1.jpg

EDIT - The middle image is fan art, not done by me...found it on Devoted To Smallville Forums

[Prison Mike]

I never noticed it before but why is his shirt half way open? Did the buttons come off? Maybe the wind blew them off. lol

[Showtime]

They used the Returns \S/ in a Smallville spread.

[Sebastos]

Cool pics.

[blksuperman2]

They used the Returns \S/ in a Smallville spread.

It's fan art.

[Sebastos]

That's some good fan art then.

[TheLongestDay]

They used the Returns \S/ in a Smallville spread.

showtime your Tallman avvy is scaring me...:wow:

[avidreader]

I never noticed it before but why is his shirt half way open? Did the buttons come off? Maybe the wind blew them off. lol

Are you serious???

Why are his buttons half way undone? Do you really need to ask? :cwink:

That's some good fan art then.

I think that's one of Jana's artwork pieces. She does awesome stuff.

[Sebastos]

I think that's one of Jana's artwork pieces. She does awesome stuff.

That's cool. Do you have a link to her work?

[avidreader]

That's cool. Do you have a link to her work?

She posts alot of her stuff here.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=278682

jr24tw is her usnername here at the Hype.