Tom Welling as Superman

[Prison Mike]

Are you serious???

Why are his buttons half way undone? Do you really need to ask? :cwink:

Ahh, for the ladies. I guess it's fair given the guys have Lois, Lana, Chloe, and now Kara. :woot:

[TheLongestDay]

and martha...:)

[Gmanofsteel]

http://television.aol.com/tv-celebrity-interviews/laura-vandervoort/

Voted :cool:

great interview too :up:

[LL2K2]

I voted, too...for the one who started it all. :mad:

[The Incredible Hulk]

Kirk Alyn?

[Asteroid-Man]

I never noticed it before but why is his shirt half way open? Did the buttons come off? Maybe the wind blew them off. lol
It makes a "V" shape on his chest.
:supes:

[triplet]

Kirk Alyn?

*snort*

:D

[LL2K2]

Kirk Alyn?

I'm not that old. ;) I mean the one who started it all in my generation..Chris Reeve.

[AgentPat]

I never noticed it before but why is his shirt half way open?Because playing peek-a-boo with Welling's bare chest is a show requirement. Der!!

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/transference12.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/poster2.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade9.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/skinwalkers4.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/exile14.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/extinction1.jpg

And because not showing shirtless Clark makes fangirls sad. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/cry.gif

[ZIPBAGS]

I like the "V" look also.... ;)

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/actress/erica-durance/pictures/erica-durance-picture-1.jpg
http://www.blog.speculist.com/archives/erica3.jpg

I even like the occasional "U"...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1280/690277036_ff4e4e24ea.jpg

:D

[Prison Mike]

^yeah I like the "V" and "U" look too!

[Gmanofsteel]

v :D :up:

u :) :up:

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

They may be just plastic, but they do make up two wonders of the world. :hyper:

[SuBe]

I like the "V" look also.... ;)

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/actress/erica-durance/pictures/erica-durance-picture-1.jpg
http://www.blog.speculist.com/archives/erica3.jpg

I even like the occasional "U"...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1280/690277036_ff4e4e24ea.jpg

:D

It's unfortune that God can't make them all look like her!

oh, that's the most Sexist thing i've said all day...

[Migu-EL]

It's unfortune that God can't make them all look like her!

oh, that's the most Sexist thing i've said all day...

Hell to the yeah.:up: :hyper:

[COMPO]

hahaha, no but, a good plastic surgeon can. lol

[Whiteflag]

Because playing peek-a-boo with Welling's bare chest is a show requirement. Der!!

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/transference12.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/poster2.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade9.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/skinwalkers4.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/exile14.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/extinction1.jpg

And because not showing shirtless Clark makes fangirls sad.

Let's go back to what really matters! :woot:

[TheLongestDay]

lol things are getting weird in here...

[The Incredible Hulk]

damn, I need to go put on my goulashes now

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/scratchhead3.gif

Huh?
http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/movie-news/exclusive-justice-league-updates.php



Really? Mmm... okaaaaay. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/redeyes.gif

[TheLongestDay]

huuuuuuuh? sounds a bit meh

[avidreader]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/scratchhead3.gif

Huh?
http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/movie-news/exclusive-justice-league-updates.php



Really? Mmm... okaaaaay. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/redeyes.gif

Am I missing something? :huh:

[AgentPat]

Am I missing something? :huh:Other than me having a hard time believing this movie is still happening? Nope, not much. :ninja:

[KBX]

Other than me having a hard time believing this movie is still happening? Nope, not much. :ninja:

Well I think it has a better chance of happening, than not.

You don't believe JL will happen? I really don't think the WB has a choice.

[Showtime]

Whats JLA?

[triplet]

Whats JLA?

*snort*

:D

Too funny...

I had thought that it would happen, but I wonder if the lack of info is a bad sign. Especially if you couple that with the fact they're looking to work with the same company that did Beowolf and The Polar Express....

I hope it's just J'onn that's getting the mo-cap treatment and it's not all mo-cap, unlike what had been previously reported.

:mad:

I hate the way mo-cap looks.

[Syncos]

*snort*

:D

Too funny...

I had thought that it would happen, but I wonder if the lack of info is a bad sign. Especially if you couple that with the fact they're looking to work with the same company that did Beowolf and The Polar Express....

I hope it's just J'onn that's getting the mo-cap treatment and it's not all mo-cap, unlike what had been previously reported.

:mad:

I hate the way mo-cap looks.

Is this in response to the article that was posted? because I didn't see anything in that article that said -any- part of JL was going to be Mo-cap, though it pretty much goes without saying that some action scenes will be.

I'm confused.

[KalKai]

twiplet always jumps to conclusions and fears the worst. :mad: :p :D

[The Incredible Hulk]

JLA is still coming folks. Think of this as the come before the storm, or "**** storm" depending on your viewpoint...

[Gmanofsteel]

JLA is still coming folks. Think of this as the come before the storm, or "**** storm" depending on your viewpoint...

The worst thing that could happen at this point would be SV ending along with Tom NOT being in JL. Heck, he's got the time to do it now :(

[avidreader]

Other than me having a hard time believing this movie is still happening? Nope, not much. :ninja:

Ah.... okay. I gotcha. :woot:

[triplet]

Is this in response to the article that was posted? because I didn't see anything in that article that said -any- part of JL was going to be Mo-cap, though it pretty much goes without saying that some action scenes will be.

I'm confused.

Well, they mention a F/X house is working the film that had done two completely mo-cap movies...

I was just trying to say that I hope it's only J'onn (well, or the OMACs) they're doing and not the whole thing because I hate the way it looks.

twiplet always jumps to conclusions and fears the worst. :mad: :p :D

Yeah?

So I overthink things... What's your point?

:ninja: ;)

[AgentPat]

JLA is still coming folks.I still have my doubts on this. Something is just... not right. But hey, I've been wrong before.[/Gordon]

[Serene]

damn, I need to go put on my goulashes now
Are you Hungarian? :confused:

:p:D

[AgentPat]

^ LOL!! It did get kinda.... wet... in here for a while, didn't it?




What?


:D

[The Caped Knight]

I like the "V" look also.... ;)

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/actress/erica-durance/pictures/erica-durance-picture-1.jpg
http://www.blog.speculist.com/archives/erica3.jpg

I even like the occasional "U"...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1280/690277036_ff4e4e24ea.jpg

:D

Simply Heaven :woot:

[AgentPat]

As of one hour ago...

I wanted to share a quick tidbit on Justice League, one of the publicists from Warner Bros. called me today and told me that they are finally going to be announcing a few things. Even though everyone knows that Miller is directing, it hasn’t been "officially" announced. So I was told expect an announcement within a week to officially announce Miller as the director and possibly some of the cast.

Stay tuned and thanks.Well I'll be damned. I wonder if this really IS gonna get announced at Wizard World TX? :huh:

[zerohour films]

As of one hour ago...

Well I'll be damned. I wonder if this really IS gonna get announced at Wizard World TX? :huh:


Hopefully he's right and it will include some of the cast. I know Miller hasn't formally been announced, but I think at this point we are past that being any kind of big deal considering every article about the film mentions his name.

tick tock tick tock..........

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If they do announce any of the cast & they do it seperately then it should be the main 3 first because the main 3 are the ones most fans are really worried about.

[zerohour films]

If they do announce any of the cast & they do it seperately then it should be the main 3 first because the main 3 are the ones most fans are really worried about.


Agreed.

Funny how before it was stated that they want to announce the cast together, but this new bit of news mentions it might only be some of the cast.

Can't wait to finally learn what's going on.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

It sucks that the only people that has publically confirmed they tried out for this movie is Winstead & Common. Has anyone bothered to ask Josh if he tried out :huh:

[Gmanofsteel]

I asked Scott Porter who he tried out for it, no reply.

[TheLongestDay]

really?

[Syncos]

I asked Scott Porter who he tried out for it, no reply.

For the record, talking to a picture of Scott Porter. Or in this case, a picture of a stick man, labeled Scott Porter, doesn't count as actually talking to the actor. I know, I know. it's a tough reality. Maybe next time. :heart:

[KBX]

It sucks that the only people that has publically confirmed they tried out for this movie is Winstead & Common. Has anyone bothered to ask Josh if he tried out :huh:

Common confirmed he tried out for JL?

[AgentPat]

AHAH! Always trust your gut! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smug.gif


Variety
Nov. 8, 2007, 8:06pm PT

Studios: What to shoot amid strike?
Proceeding with projects means no fixes
By ANNE THOMPSON, TATIANA SIEGEL

Studios that scrambled to stockpile scripts in advance of the writers strike are now forced into a Darwinian dilemma: They must pick the fittest projects, and perhaps scuttle the rest.

For the most part, they are prepared to shoot their locked and cast projects that start within the next month or so, meaning there will be little impact on the 2008 schedule.

But if the strike goes on past the New Year, things start to look a bit more dicey. Every production chief faces the anxiety-filled challenge of actually proceeding with greenlit projects that will shoot under unprecedented duress, and "bubble" projects that have solid scripts but incomplete casting.

An estimated 50 or so projects across studios are at the "go" stage, among them the next James Bond movie, "The Da Vinci Code" prequel "Angels & Demons" and "The X-Files" sequel, rumored to be titled "Done One."

A producer who has five films on the bubble, however, estimates that as many as 75% of the "go" projects are actually "up in the air." Inevitably, some will end up on hold or the chopping block.

"The impending strike felt like an anvil over our heads," says producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura. "Now it feels like it's landed on our chests. The pressure on the last movies greenlit feels very intense."

Twentieth Century Fox production chief Hutch Parker insists "we're in good shape," with nine movies going into production through March. "The one caveat is, we've never done this before."

To proceed with a project during the strike means no polishes, no response to executive notes, no fixes for actors uncomfortable with their lines, no rethinking of elaborate setpieces that don't work. Even under the best of circumstances, screenplays require writer-assisted tweaking right up until the first day of principal photography and sometimes throughout the shoot.

Inevitably, this means there will be anxieties over what is ready. One senior ICM agent notes that in 2001, when it looked like writers might walk out, "things got rushed into production, but even then, we had writers available."

"Studios have been more prepared for it this time around, and have pushed the writers and pushed the projects to get them in the best shape prior to this date," the agent adds. "But when you're talking about films that will shoot in February or March, there's a lot of scripts that still need a lot of work. There's no two ways about it."

Despite their best efforts, several studios have potential problem-children on their hands. "There's no such thing as a locked script," says one Sony-based producer who has a go project. "That's just a fact of life. Sometimes you do need more flexibility, and you do need a new scene, and you need to call the writer. That won't be happening."

"How can you make a movie without a writer?" asks manager Patty Detroit. "You can't!"

Writer-director Tony Gilroy is prepared to shoot "Duplicity" with star Julia Roberts.

"I've done everything I can do," he says. "My script could shoot word for word. Everyone is in agreement. But it's not ideal any way you look at it. This is all an experiment. I'm happy I don't start shooting till March."

Sony, for example, has at least two big-budget, high-profile "go" films that may have incomplete scripts and/or major casting holes. Paul Haggis admitted while walking the strike line last week that his script for "Bond 22," which is skedded to shoot in December, is not locked. Similarly, the script for "Angels & Demons," which is based on Dan Brown's wildly popular prequel to "The Da Vinci Code," was rushed to meet the Nov. 1 deadline. That film also has no players signed beyond star Tom Hanks. Furthermore, the Denzel Washington starrer "Pelham 123 " is rumored to have script problems.

Many studios are performing triage. When projects are contingent on an actor's availability, movies that are still not cast pose the biggest headache. "Sony will push everything into production they can with the best version of the script that they have," says one senior lit agent at CAA. "But the big-budget pictures will finally be driven by the big directors and big actors who are more likely to derail something at the last minute than the studio."

Major tentpoles are the most vulnerable should the strike drag on. Warner Bros. execs are nervous about how to proceed with "Justice League of America," which is still uncast and is a crucial potential franchise boasting popular DC Comics characters. While WB expects to move ahead on most of its projects, if the strike extends past February, the studio will have some reevaluating to do. That's when Warners' uncast "The Incredible Mr. Limpet," which needs at least three to four weeks of script polishing before its May start, would get into trouble. "Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins" will face issues if the strike goes past April. "The Jetsons" has a locked script, but it is uncast.

"For any A-plus production," the ICM agent adds, "the fact of the matter is that writing work goes on right up until the first day of principal photography or at least up through the read-through with the cast."

Paramount, on the other hand, threw four pricey A-list scribes at would-be $100-million franchise "G.I. Joe," which is scheduled to start shooting in February, and swears that the move paid off. Stuart Beattie ("3:10 to Yuma"), John Lee Hancock ("A Perfect World") and Brian Koppleman and David Levien ("Ocean's Thirteen") teamed up in an intense collaboration that yielded, according to di Bonaventura, a shootable script. But will the studio be willing to take a chance on shooting such an important, costly tentpole? The studio insists it will, partly because it isn't chasing big-name stars.

"We have to make sure the actors are not only good but perfectly suited to their roles," says di Bonaventura.

DreamWorks/Par's "Transformers 2" is far enough along to proceed with pre-production, location scouting and advance VFX work, but will face serious issues if the strike continues for several months. Michael Bay's megabudget sequel isn't set to start filming until June. Di Bonaventura's "Edwin A. Salt" will likely be pushed back, too.

Disney's June start on Jerry Bruckheimer's "Prince of Persia," too, could get into trouble.

"We'll do everything we can do to make the movies as good as they can be," says Disney production prexy Oren Aviv. "But the reality is, we wouldn't be moving forward with the movies we're greenlighting if I didn't have confidence in the scripts we have."


Most of the studios say they are good to go with pics that are locked, cast and prepped, and starting to shoot between December and February. Disney, for example, isn't worried about the $80 million FX-heavy "Bedtime Stories," because Adam Sandler is adept at working on his feet. Similarly, Par Vantage is going forward this month with its Will Ferrell/Adam McKay-produced used-car salesmen comedy "The Goods," starring a cast led by Jeremy Piven. "They can improvise," one producer says.

But many execs concur that it's going to be tough to find top-flight comic talent for still-uncast comedies. Everybody's working. And 2009 could become problematic if the strike causes too many pics to stall.

"If the strike doesn't end, we won't make our dates," one studio production chief says.

Fox is moving full speed ahead with its "X-Men" spinoff "Wolverine," even though many roles are still uncast. Unlike "X-Men," "Wolverine" rests solidly on Hugh Jackman's shoulders.

On "X-Men" pics, Parker admits, writers Simon Kinberg and Zak Penn were making adjustments throughout production. "Wolverine" will have no such luxury. Most action sequences will be handled in f/x animation.

"The X-Files" sequel, while casting supporting roles, is to start in December, Parker says. Pulling the plug now would be prohibitively expensive.

"The Day the Earth Stood Still" will also go forward, as no script invention is required. "That's a helpful discipline, to be forced to lock these scripts instead of going into production with scripts in flux," Parker says. "But we could run into little snags ahead."

Certain changes are permitted by the Writers Guild basic agreement Sections A through H as "non-writing services": They include switching lines from one actor to another, cutting a scene for length, changes in blocking and minor changes to dialogue. But no adds are permitted, not even pick-ups from the book a movie is based on.

That leaves open the issue of whether during a protracted strike, producers, directors, non-WGA writers and studio production executives will take it upon themselves to improve scripts.

"It's called scabbing," says Montecito Films' Tom Pollock. "The union takes a dim view."

Some producers plan to hire Brit writers and non-WGA writers. During the 1988 strike, the British and Canadian writers guilds both supported their American brethren, and again have pledged to honor the work stoppage this time around. "The biggest problem is no one knows the rules," says one studio production head. "No one understands what they can and cannot do. Everything is a moving target right now. Things are dropping out. Things are dropping in."

In the past, a studio like U has allowed its "Bourne" series to go into production knowing that many changes and improvisations will occur, with many writers brought in to solve script problems in mid-production.

Will it affect Paul Greengrass' "The Green Zone" with Matt Damon, which is working off an incomplete script? Universal production prexy Donna Langley says it won't. "We have a solid Brian Helgeland script," she says. "This movie is more contained than the 'Bourne' films. It is a different animal."

U is examining the prospects for Brad Silberling's FX-heavy Ferrell comedy "Land of the Lost," Benicio del Toro starrer "Wolfman" and Ridley Scott's "Nottingham." Says Langley, "The script isn't where we would like it to be."

One upside of all this madness: During a time of product glut, if fewer movies wind up getting made down the line, theater wickets won't be so crowded and could yield better box office returns.


http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975666

[triplet]

^^ Hmmm....

From what rumors we've heard, it's probably been cast but not officially yet.

Interesting, however, if that is accurate even if it's frustrating...

*sigh*

And I thought the new Bond film script wasn't finished. I read someplace that Paul Haggis hadn't finished it yet...

*shrug*

I guess they all can't be right.

[Showtime]

Is Justice League the next Batman vs Superman.

[AgentPat]

Is Justice League the next Batman vs Superman.Makes ya wonder, eh there Show?


Trip, despite the rumors, I don't think JL is cast yet. They might have one or two actors on a leash - Common maybe? - but I kind of doubt they've got the big three locked in. The various casting rumors that started with Sanchez's bomb in August stirred up quite a bit of controversy - enough to the point where Gough and DC Comics "I'm so confused" dude were forced to make official statements about Welling. Now, even if Welling wasn't a consideration, never mind actually offered the role, the fan reaction to unsubstantiated rumors involving him had to be noticed by Warners. Same goes for other fan favorites (Reynolds) contrasted with THR's list of thesps supposedly auditioning for roles. Friday Night Light's guy? Seriously? Then there's the actors who turned DOWN the roles (!), the uncertainty with the script, the WGA strike, bad blood brewing on Nolan's end, two unrelated superhero films put into development whose characters are also in JL, and an almost complete lack of production news besides who's bidding on effects or doing costumes. Warners hasn't even announced Miller yet.

In the words of Henry Lee: "Something not right here."

[Zorex]

Oh hoooo, snap.

[AgentPat]

Here's just one example of JL commentary to be found on the I-Net:

411 Fact or Fiction Movies 11.09.07: The Supersized 100th Edition!
by Ben Piper

Fact or Fiction: The planned Justice League movie is shaping up to be an unmitigated disaster?

James Thomlison: Fiction. Why on earth is this fact? Didn't The Dark Night news start circulating in 2006 and it's due 2008? That's two years. Now stuff is circulating in 2007 for a 2010 movie (do the math kids, three years) and it's being rushed? The casting thus far has been solid (and will be uber-solid if they lock up Ryan Reynolds for Flash), the director is solid and they are simply doing what every other movie on the planet is doing in preparing for the strike (which, by the way, I don't think will last nearly as long as anticipated). I would agree with Nick if Brandon Routh and Christian Bale were on board for this, but since they are not, I see no reason why you don't make this movie first to introduce Flash and Wonder Woman, and then do your spinoffs from there. Bottom line is the DC Universe has plenty of fans and Warner is aware of this and will therefore (hopefully) make sure they have the right people to make this movie what it should be.

….And on one small, homer-ish note, I think it's a real shame that Warner couldn't get it worked out for Tom Welling to play Superman.

http://www.411mania.com/movies/columns/63035/If *I* can find these kind of comments posted DAILY on the Net, ya gotta figure Warners can too.

[LoisL]

It's hard to stop hoping for Welling as Supes. Esp. since we're already getting a short season of SV, which was to be our greatest sacrifice. *sigh*

I really hope JLA is good. I honestly think DCU has more to offer than MARVEL.

[RakuMon]

Makes ya wonder, eh there Show?


Trip, despite the rumors, I don't think JL is cast yet. They might have one or two actors on a leash - Common maybe? - but I kind of doubt they've got the big three locked in. The various casting rumors that started with Sanchez's bomb in August stirred up quite a bit of controversy - enough to the point where Gough and DC Comics "I'm so confused" dude were forced to make official statements about Welling. Now, even if Welling wasn't a consideration, never mind actually offered the role, the fan reaction to unsubstantiated rumors involving him had to be noticed by Warners. Same goes for other fan favorites (Reynolds) contrasted with THR's list of thesps supposedly auditioning for roles. Friday Night Light's guy? Seriously? Then there's the actors who turned DOWN the roles (!), the uncertainty with the script, the WGA strike, bad blood brewing on Nolan's end, two unrelated superhero films put into development whose characters are also in JL, and an almost complete lack of production news besides who's bidding on effects or doing costumes. Warners hasn't even announced Miller yet.

In the words of Henry Lee: "Something not right here."

You know, and I know, that he was not only considered but offered the role. ;)

[triplet]

Makes ya wonder, eh there Show?


Trip, despite the rumors, I don't think JL is cast yet. They might have one or two actors on a leash - Common maybe? - but I kind of doubt they've got the big three locked in. The various casting rumors that started with Sanchez's bomb in August stirred up quite a bit of controversy - enough to the point where Gough and DC Comics "I'm so confused" dude were forced to make official statements about Welling. Now, even if Welling wasn't a consideration, never mind actually offered the role, the fan reaction to unsubstantiated rumors involving him had to be noticed by Warners. Same goes for other fan favorites (Reynolds) contrasted with THR's list of thesps supposedly auditioning for roles. Friday Night Light's guy? Seriously? Then there's the actors who turned DOWN the roles (!), the uncertainty with the script, the WGA strike, bad blood brewing on Nolan's end, two unrelated superhero films put into development whose characters are also in JL, and an almost complete lack of production news besides who's bidding on effects or doing costumes. Warners hasn't even announced Miller yet.

In the words of Henry Lee: "Something not right here."

It does seem to be a bit schizo...

:confused:

*shrug*

[The Incredible Hulk]

That Variety article seems like a a lot of speculation and also fails to take into account that director's and producer's do rewrites and fixes all the time, most of them uncredited. Donner and Mankiewicz rewrote large portions of the S:TM script during shooting, yet Puzo and another guy are the only ones credited for it.

[Superman_]

I think Welling will be Superman for Justice League. I mean if the WB does decide not to go with Singer's Man of Steel and wants to do a complete reboot then I can see no one else in the role of Superman but Welling and I think the WB knows the public sees it that way as well. So I think Welling will be Superman if there is a reboot based off of Justice League. How ever the way these "spin-off" movies are looking none of them so far is based off of JL but going in another direction. So my question then would be what is the point of JL. Because IMO it is stupid and pointless to have 2 different actors playing the same person. They should just have one cast for everything.

[The Incredible Hulk]

they already said that the Flash film would be in continuity with JLA

[Superman_]

they already said that the Flash film would be in continuity with JLA
I stand by with what I said. Which again is why I say what is the point to Justice League. I mean I understand they want to bring their other heroes to the forefront as well but still what good is that when you go to their solo movies and the GL is not John but Hal or Routh and Bale's Superman & Batman are a little darker then what will be on the movie. So then what is the real point of this because now your giving off two different interpretations of the heroes and it kind of defeats the purpose.



Dobkin runs with Warners, helms 'Flash'
by Boris Kyt

Nov 2, 2007

After helming comedy "Fred Claus" for Warner Bros., director David Dobkin has decided to make the studio his home, signing a three-year, first-look deal with the company.

Separately, Dobkin also has come aboard to direct "The Flash," the big-screen adaptation of the DC Comics hero. Craig Wright, creator of ABC's "Dirty Sexy Money, has been tapped to write "Flash," which is being produced by Mosaic Media's Charles Roven and Alex Gartner.

Under his deal, Dobkin will direct and produce not just comedies -- the genre in which the helmer found success -- but also hopes to tackle a wide range of projects.

"We're looking to bring comedies to Warner, and I'm also looking to make large-scale scale tentpole movies as well," Dobkin said. He added that the creative freedom Warners gave him while making "Claus" made it natural for him to set up shop there.

Dobkin's first move under the deal is to step up to produce the already in-development comedy "Boss Go Home," written by "Burn Notice" creator Matt Nix.

Dobkin's still-unnamed production company will be based in either Beverly Hills or Hollywood. He is promoting his assistant, Greg Garthe, to creative exec and is looking to fill other key positions.

In comics lore, there have been four incarnations of the Flash, who has remained one of DC's most popular characters. While it is unclear which version of the scarlet speedster will appear in Dobkin's movie, the project is not a spinoff of the upcoming "Justice League of America" movie that George Miller is directing in which the Flash is a major character.

Dobkin said he is a comic book fan and has long waited for a shot at a superhero movie, and the Flash's superpower has a relatability and simplicity he found appealing.

"Because of that simplicity, it is easy to design a theme and a story around what his inner life is in comparison to his superpower," he said.

With "Flash," Dobkin is stepping in the shoes previously filled by Shawn Levy, who left because of scheduling issues (HR 2/5).

Dobkin is known for directing "Wedding Crashers," starring Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson. He also directed "Shanghai Knights," which starred Wilson and Jackie Chan, as well as "Clay Pigeons," which starred Vaughn. His "Fred Claus," which stars Vaughn, opens Nov. 9.

Dobkin is repped by CAA and attorney Warren Dern.

Wright, repped by UTA, also wrote on "Lost" and "Brothers & Sisters."

source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...7a922e3f540660

[AgentPat]

You know, and I know, that he was not only considered but offered the role. ;)Oh, I know. Heh. 'Twas just trying to avoid the argument since it shouldn't matter any more at this point. What I mean is, Warners got to see how the public reacted to the "news," regardless of whether it was true or not. It was a wake-up call - or it should have been.

Interestingly enough, I wonder if the fan reaction had anything to do with how or why things got fouled up? Because if Warners saw the public's positive response, Gough did too. When a "product" all of a sudden becomes more valuable than originally estimated, that might make things more difficult at the negotiating table LOL. Seriously though, no wonder studios want casting kept under wraps until *everything* is tied up with a pretty little bow. :ninja:

[triplet]

That Variety article seems like a a lot of speculation and also fails to take into account that director's and producer's do rewrites and fixes all the time, most of them uncredited. Donner and Mankiewicz rewrote large portions of the S:TM script during shooting, yet Puzo and another guy are the only ones credited for it.


Yeah, Gladiator was rewritten during the shoot by a boatload of people.

One guy wrote the "busy little bee" speech, someone else tightened up the action, Russell Crowe wrote the speech where Maximus talks about his estate, wife and son off in Spain. That's where he counts down to the day and hour of how it had been since he'd seen them...

However, some scripts are tighter than others before shooting.

Gladiator's original script was a mess and the script wasn't even done yet when they started shooting.

Other scripts are basically shot exactly the way the script reads.

It depends on the project.

[The Incredible Hulk]

I stand by with what I said. Which again is why I say what is the point to Justice League. I mean I understand they want to bring their other heroes to the forefront as well but still what good is that when you go to their solo movies and the GL is not John but Hal or Routh and Bale's Superman & Batman are a little darker then what will be on the movie. So then what is the real point of this because now your giving off two different interpretations of the heroes and it kind of defeats the purpose.



Dobkin runs with Warners, helms 'Flash'
by Boris Kyt

Nov 2, 2007

After helming comedy "Fred Claus" for Warner Bros., director David Dobkin has decided to make the studio his home, signing a three-year, first-look deal with the company.

Separately, Dobkin also has come aboard to direct "The Flash," the big-screen adaptation of the DC Comics hero. Craig Wright, creator of ABC's "Dirty Sexy Money, has been tapped to write "Flash," which is being produced by Mosaic Media's Charles Roven and Alex Gartner.

Under his deal, Dobkin will direct and produce not just comedies -- the genre in which the helmer found success -- but also hopes to tackle a wide range of projects.

"We're looking to bring comedies to Warner, and I'm also looking to make large-scale scale tentpole movies as well," Dobkin said. He added that the creative freedom Warners gave him while making "Claus" made it natural for him to set up shop there.

Dobkin's first move under the deal is to step up to produce the already in-development comedy "Boss Go Home," written by "Burn Notice" creator Matt Nix.

Dobkin's still-unnamed production company will be based in either Beverly Hills or Hollywood. He is promoting his assistant, Greg Garthe, to creative exec and is looking to fill other key positions.

In comics lore, there have been four incarnations of the Flash, who has remained one of DC's most popular characters. While it is unclear which version of the scarlet speedster will appear in Dobkin's movie, the project is not a spinoff of the upcoming "Justice League of America" movie that George Miller is directing in which the Flash is a major character.

Dobkin said he is a comic book fan and has long waited for a shot at a superhero movie, and the Flash's superpower has a relatability and simplicity he found appealing.

"Because of that simplicity, it is easy to design a theme and a story around what his inner life is in comparison to his superpower," he said.

With "Flash," Dobkin is stepping in the shoes previously filled by Shawn Levy, who left because of scheduling issues (HR 2/5).

Dobkin is known for directing "Wedding Crashers," starring Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson. He also directed "Shanghai Knights," which starred Wilson and Jackie Chan, as well as "Clay Pigeons," which starred Vaughn. His "Fred Claus," which stars Vaughn, opens Nov. 9.

Dobkin is repped by CAA and attorney Warren Dern.

Wright, repped by UTA, also wrote on "Lost" and "Brothers & Sisters."

source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...7a922e3f540660 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...7a922e3f540660)

I was talking about this article form MTV. That HR article seemed pretty misinformed.


MTV (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/10/27/exclusive-david-dobkin-takes-flash-reins-spills-details/) learned on Saturday at the junket for director David Dobkin's Fred Claus (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=15852) that Warner Bros (http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=6456#). has signed the helmer for The Flash. Shawn Levy (Night at the Museum) and David Goyer (http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=6456#) ("Blade" films) were previously attached to direct.

Dobkin (Wedding Crashers) says his adaptation won't be the character's first appearance in theaters, with the Flash a major part of George Miller's Justice League (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=36577) movie. Dobkin confirmed that his movie will be set in the same universe as Justice League (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=36577) as a direct spin-off.

He added that the Flash they will use is "Wally West."

Created by writer Gardner Fox and artist Harry Lampert, The Flash has the ability to run and move extremely fast, use superhuman reflexes and violate certain laws of physics, like time travel.

[Prison Mike]

why would they spin-off the flash but not green lantern?

[Superman_]

Well we'll find out when the Flash movie is made. But this is why I say JL defeats its purpose unless they (the JL cast) is just being used for team-up movies. I mean the WB already tried the more family version of Superman and Batman (Superman III and IV and Batman and Robin) and they failed at that. The serious approach has gotten a much better reaction (Superman: TAS, Batman: TAS, JL, JLU, Batman Begins, Superman Returns, Superman: The Movie, Superman II both version, Batman 89 and Batman Returns). What I am hoping is the WB has a middle ground this movie (JL) will be on where it is not just for kids but adults as well much like Timm's Justice League.

[Superman_]

why would they spin-off the flash but not green lantern?because they don't know what they are doing. And we don't even know if Flash will in fact be a spin-off when all is said and done it could be different. I also feel Wonder Woman will not be a spin-off as well but more along the lines of Superman Returns and Batman Begins; because if you read her comics thry have been in that tone for a while.

[Gmanofsteel]

For the record, talking to a picture of Scott Porter. Or in this case, a picture of a stick man, labeled Scott Porter, doesn't count as actually talking to the actor. I know, I know. it's a tough reality. Maybe next time. :heart:

For the record, it was his official myspace page. :whatever:

[musclesforsupes]

So long story short No one know S*** about Welling and his chances. Hey we still have a shot :)

[ZIPBAGS]

A lot of people here (myself included) always discuss about how Warner must be seeing the support for Welling as Supes. But, here is my question. Does anyone know if any of importance at Warner actually follows these forums? Or even look at that AOL poll from the other day which showed Welling as a fan favorite Supes?

[AgentPat]

A lot of people here (myself included) always discuss about how Warner must be seeing the support for Welling as Supes. But, here is my question. Does anyone know if any of importance at Warner actually follows these forums? Or even look at that AOL poll from the other day which showed Welling as a fan favorite Supes?Yes, they watch forums like a hawk. How much it influences their decisions is debatable, but if you posted unofficial images or script dialog from a film here - and it was clearly the real deal - you could count on one hand the amount of minutes it would take before SHH would start receiving cease and desist orders. I'm not kidding.

So ga head and wave to TPTB. Hi guys! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wave2.gif







Oh, and PS.... don't forget Tom Welling is Superman! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/yougotit.gif

[BH/HHH]

I think Welling will be Superman for Justice League. I mean if the WB does decide not to go with Singer's Man of Steel and wants to do a complete reboot then I can see no one else in the role of Superman but Welling and I think the WB knows the public sees it that way as well. So I think Welling will be Superman if there is a reboot based off of Justice League. How ever the way these "spin-off" movies are looking none of them so far is based off of JL but going in another direction. So my question then would be what is the point of JL. Because IMO it is stupid and pointless to have 2 different actors playing the same person. They should just have one cast for everything.

I dont think Tom wants to be Superman to be honest, I dont get why its gotta be better than doing cheaper by the dozen or an inferior fog remake. Its so irratating cause he is bang on for Superman aswell.

[Migu-EL]

Yes, they watch forums like a hawk. How much it influences their decisions is debatable, but if you posted unofficial images or script dialog from a film here - and it was clearly the real deal - you could count on one hand the amount of minutes it would take before SHH would start receiving cease and desist orders. I'm not kidding.

So ga head and wave to TPTB. Hi guys! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wave2.gif







Oh, and PS.... don't forget Tom Welling is Superman! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/yougotit.gif

With a strong emphasis on IS.:word:

[Mike22]

Yes, they watch forums like a hawk. How much it influences their decisions is debatable, but if you posted unofficial images or script dialog from a film here - and it was clearly the real deal - you could count on one hand the amount of minutes it would take before SHH would start receiving cease and desist orders. I'm not kidding.

So ga head and wave to TPTB. Hi guys! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wave2.gif







Oh, and PS.... don't forget Tom Welling is Superman! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/yougotit.gif

That makes sense, they DO make them selves noticed when these forums features something that they don`t want to be on here, like images or script dialog like you mentioned.

In that case, I`d just like to say that IF Welling isn`t in this movie, and that appears to be the case, than I seriously HOPE that you all cast someone appropriate for superman, both in the looks department and the acting talent.

Don`t screw this up like you all did with SR.

[Showtime]

A lot of people here (myself included) always discuss about how Warner must be seeing the support for Welling as Supes. But, here is my question. Does anyone know if any of importance at Warner actually follows these forums? Or even look at that AOL poll from the other day which showed Welling as a fan favorite Supes?

WB has a presence on these forums, it was quite notable during Superman Returns and has continued through the casting of Justice League. :cwink:

[ZIPBAGS]

Thanks for the response. Although, I am a little nervous if Warner is looking at this forum site. If they look in Smallville they will see positive Welling. But, if they only go to the Superman threads. Uh oh.


And with regards to Welling not wanting to do the movie. I never understood actors who refuse jobs because of this or that. How many actors would kill for a job that would be consistant and make them a household name. Jonathan Frakes said it best when he was interviewed about Star Trek. He was asked if he would continue playing Riker. He said absolutely yes. "Where in Hollywood are you guaranteed almost guaranteed a job?" He gets a constant paycheck plus the opportunity and time off to do other projects (ie-directing).

[bootspark]

from TVguide.com about "BLUE"

"The CW — Clark meets his biological mother, played by Helen Slater, for the first time. Awkward discussion about superhero film spin-offs ensues."

[AgentPat]

from TVguide.com about "BLUE"

"The CW — Clark meets his biological mother, played by Helen Slater, for the first time. Awkward discussion about superhero film spin-offs ensues."LOL!!! That's TV Guide's attempt at a joke, Boots. They're not saying that discussion about superhero spin-off films would actually occur IN the episode - between Clark and his mom. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/laugh.gif

[ariellem]

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5237/seriestrilogieny0.gif
That's all I need to say about that!

Nice job :-> I hope they show him trying out costumes on the show like they did on L&C.

[Mike22]

I was just thinking about this whole Welling as superman thing, he doesn`t seem to be in JL at all. Smallville was supposed to have ended this season with him putting on the suit and making the transfer from smallville to JL. But clearly that isn`t going to happen.
And given the new info from the Hype main page, I`m really starting wonder IF JL is gonna get made at all. I mean, they have no casting, and god only knows if the script is even finished. I think they might just be having second thoughts now that Welling is out, and Reynolds too.

What ever happens I just hope that they don`t get all stupid and go ahead with the Singer sequel. I personally think that it`s as dead as can be, but one can never know with Hollywood.

Here`s hoping they go ahead with that Reboot for superman franchise, with Welling as supes.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[Syncos]

Here`s hoping they go ahead with that Reboot for superman franchise, with Welling as supes.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

http://www.stuffwelike.com/stuffwelike/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/reboot.jpg
:ninja:

[Prison Mike]

lol, I remember that show!

[Syncos]

For the record, talking to a picture of Scott Porter. Or in this case, a picture of a stick man, labeled Scott Porter, doesn't count as actually talking to the actor. I know, I know. it's a tough reality. Maybe next time. :heart:
For the record, it was his official myspace page. :whatever:

I was clearly joking. Good lord TW4S, you should know the sarcastic crap I post by now, as well as anyone... :csad:

[Gmanofsteel]

http://www.ls1.com/forums/images/smilies/tumbleweed.gif

[KBX]

^^ It is very quiet around here..... hopefully something will get this place popping again....

Hmmmmmmm this will do.....

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3699&Itemid=99

[triplet]

Thank God.

Here's the article KBX linked to.

No Delays on Justice League, Cast to be Announced this Week

Written by IESB Staff
Monday, 12 November 2007

The WGA is not slowing down the WB and its plan to get Justice League on track, WB sources tell IESB that the cast will be announced this week.

Variety reported that there may be some delays on some studio tent poles including Justice League, this is not accurate according to WB sources.

They tell the IESB that unlike the story ran by the trades, casting is 100% locked. The cast has been chosen and sworn to secrecy but official confirmation will happen sometime this week.

There have been so many names associated with the Justice League throughout the last few months that it would make anybody’s head spin.

Looks like his will all come to an end this by this weekend…thank the maker.

[Migu-EL]

So......Who's the odds on favorite to play Superman?:huh:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

We will see. I guess we did get an update last time when Rob said we would. Lets hope this finally happens.

[Migu-EL]

Yeah, at this point I just want a casting announcement made to finally end all the speculation.

[ZIPBAGS]

I am only going to ask this question here. But, is their any chance that Welling will be announced as Supes? Or is it just wishful thinking?

[Mike22]

I am only going to ask this question here. But, is their any chance that Welling will be announced as Supes? Or is it just wishful thinking?

hehe, you`re definitely not alone. I hope to God that Welling IS already cast as superman.

I mean think about it. Both Sanchez and EmiJayne have said that the WB were leaking false info to throw us off.
Now, I personally have my doubts about it, but it`s not impossible that Welling has signed to play supes.
Either way, here`s hoping we get a good superman this time around.

[triplet]

I'm not going to hold my breath, but given the strike looks like it might kill the rest of the season I think Tom will be available to go to Australia in mid-February.

I'm cautiously hopeful, but it's been such a roller coaster ride up until now I'm not going to count on anything until it's officially announced.

[Serene]

I'm not going to hold my breath, but given the strike looks like it might kill the rest of the season I think Tom will be available to go to Australia in mid-February.

But the strike could end at any time, right? Having him star in the movie by taking the chance that the strike will last long enough for him to finish seems really risky. If the movie is indeed filming in Australia, I can't see how he could possibly do both.

I'd still like to though. :D

I'm cautiously hopeful, but it's been such a roller coaster ride up until now I'm not going to count on anything until it's officially announced.

I think a lot of us are in that same boat at this point.

[Prison Mike]

I don't even care anymore. I just want the cast announced and the speculation done with.

[triplet]

But the strike could end at any time, right? Having him star in the movie by taking the chance that the strike will last long enough for him to finish seems really risky. If the movie is indeed filming in Australia, I can't see how he could possibly do both.

I'd still like to though. :D

I think very soon they'll have a very good idea whether they'll be able to film any past ep 15....


I think a lot of us are in that same boat at this point.

Yep, no doubt.

[Mike22]

I'm not going to hold my breath, but given the strike looks like it might kill the rest of the season I think Tom will be available to go to Australia in mid-February.

I'm cautiously hopeful, but it's been such a roller coaster ride up until now I'm not going to count on anything until it's officially announced.

That`s good and all that Tom will be available, but the problem is that they have already CAST the actors and given that smallville will go on for a season 8, I don`t think it`s him. It doesn`t matter if Tom will be available, the cast is hired, smallville still ends early as it was intended to if Tom were to take the part, and we get a different and third superman for JL.
This sucks, we loose the final part of the season with smallville and we STILL don`t get Tom in JL.
What the hell is up with the WB? http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

[triplet]

That`s good and all that Tom will be available, but the problem is that they have already CAST the actors and given that smallville will go on for a season 8, I don`t think it`s him. It doesn`t matter if Tom will be available, the cast is hired, smallville still ends early as it was intended to if Tom were to take the part, and we get a different and third superman for JL.
This sucks, we loose the final part of the season with smallville and we STILL don`t get Tom in JL.
What the hell is up with the WB? http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

I am totally with you on that: It'll completely suck if Tom doesn't get JLA and the season is cut short.

:mad:

Bastards, if that is true!

:(

I guess we'll find out one way or another by the end of the week and whoever had said that it was going to be announced on the 18th just might have been right....

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Whoever had said that it was going to be announced on the 18th just might have been right....

That would be one hell of a start for Wizard World Texas. That would be one hell of announcement there. But the 18th is next Tuesday so I if they announce it this week it wont be on the 18th.

[RakuMon]

That would be one hell of a start for Wizard World Texas. That would be one hell of announcement there. But the 18th is next Tuesday so I if they announce it this week it wont be on the 18th.

Um, check your calendar dude. November 18th is Sunday.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Um, check your calendar dude. November 18th is Sunday.

Yeah yeah :cmad:

[BH/HHH]

I am totally with you on that: It'll completely suck if Tom doesn't get JLA and the season is cut short.

:mad:

Bastards, if that is true!

:(

I guess we'll find out one way or another by the end of the week and whoever had said that it was going to be announced on the 18th just might have been right....

Are we all not forgetting the real reason Tom wont be Superman, he doesnt want to play Superman. Id love it if he got cast in Justice League but he doesnt want to be Superman.

[The Incredible Hulk]

for 8,000,000,000,000th time. Welling has NEVER said he didnt want to be Superman.

[triplet]

Are we all not forgetting the real reason Tom wont be Superman, he doesnt want to play Superman. Id love it if he got cast in Justice League but he doesnt want to be Superman.

for 8,000,000,000,000th time. Welling has NEVER said he didnt want to be Superman.

What Hulk said.


:rolleyes:

[BH/HHH]

for 8,000,000,000,000th time. Welling has NEVER said he didnt want to be Superman.

Didnt he turn it down though?

and have you watched interviews with him he doesnt like it when they call him Superman.

man I hope he is though :D

[Migu-EL]

Too late......


Isn't he already Superman?:cwink:

[triplet]

Didnt he turn it down though?

Apparently, the last time it wasn't offered (depending on who you talk to) and this time he was but something may have happened so that he may not have been signed (again, depending on who you talk to), so I guess we'll see when they announce this weekend.


and have you watched interviews with him he doesnt like it when they call him Superman.

Those quotes are taken out of context and are popular talking points for bashers who use them as proof of why they want someone else for Superman...

man I hope he is though :D

:up:

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Didnt he turn it down though?

and have you watched interviews with him he doesnt like it when they call him Superman.

man I hope he is though :D

That's a lie. I've read countless reports of people who met him in Vancouver on his day to day affairs and have came to him and either calling him or asking him "Aren't you Superman ?" and were all greeted with a big smile and positive answer. If anything it seems he likes (and is proud) to be the face of Superman for most of this generation.
But fans have to have the patience and understanding, that when faced with contract negotiations for a huge blockbusters there's more factors at play than just love for the character.

[musclesforsupes]

Still hoping here :(

[Showtime]

http://www.wizardworld.com/fcoponilijas.html

FEATURED GUESTS:

Scott Porter
(Friday Night Lights' Jason Street)

[Antonello Blueberry]

Mmmm
http://www.wizardworld.com/fcomowatobes.html

FEATURED GUESTS:
"Fat Momma"
("Who Wants To Be A Superhero?")

Maybe she's a candidate for the Wonder Woman role...

[OobeDoobBenubi]

http://www.wizardworld.com/fcoponilijas.html

FEATURED GUESTS:

Scott Porter
(Friday Night Lights' Jason Street)

The Justice League stuff can be a surprise & non announced event

[Sebastos]

Still hoping here :(

For what? Welling as Supes?

[triplet]

For what? Welling as Supes?

What else?

It's muscles.

[Sebastos]

Eh, as great as it would be he needs to stop. I really doubt it will happen which is a sad thing.

[smsvmos]

Robert Sanchez (Admin)

Admin

Posts: 322



Re:Warner getting Ready to Announce Some JLA Detai 15 Minutes ago Karma: 2
Dudes and Dudettes

Steph and I have been really busy getting ready for some major changes on IESB, and that along with all the interviews, set visits, junkets and premieres that we have been covering I know that I have been around the forums.

News is coming very, very soon and I expect some surprises, one thing that I can tell you is that Teresa Palmer is not playing WW.


This is killing me

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Woo hoo no blondie :woot:

[triplet]

This is killing me


He's back to the teasing I see.

*sigh*

[triplet]

Woo hoo no blondie :woot:

She was rumored to be playing Talia Al Gul at one point, that makes some sense since Talia is a blonde.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

She was rumored to be playing Talia Al Gul at one point, that makes some sense since Talia is a blonde.

She was ? Talia I can see but I have only seen her rumored as Wonder Woman.

[smsvmos]

She was rumored to be playing Talia Al Gul at one point, that makes some sense since Talia is a blonde.

Talia Al Ghul is not a Blond. She is a Dark haired beauty

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/627/627227/talia-al-ghul-20050619064725979.jpg

[triplet]

She was ? Talia I can see but I have only seen her rumored as Wonder Woman.

Yeah, that was one thing I thought I'd read but I guess (if Robert's right) she's not playing WW anyway.

*shrug*

[ZIPBAGS]

Robert Sanchez (Admin)

Admin

Posts: 322



Re:Warner getting Ready to Announce Some JLA Detai 15 Minutes ago Karma: 2
Dudes and Dudettes

Steph and I have been really busy getting ready for some major changes on IESB, and that along with all the interviews, set visits, junkets and premieres that we have been covering I know that I have been around the forums.

News is coming very, very soon and I expect some surprises, one thing that I can tell you is that Teresa Palmer is not playing WW.

Only surprise I want to hear......

"Contrary to previous denials by Gough and a Warner exec. Tom Welling will be playing Superman in the new JL movie."

Hey. A guy can hope. :D

[OobeDoobBenubi]

We just got some Dragonball Z Casting News & that is bound to be a big movie by name only. Maybe Justice League really will be announced soon.

[triplet]

Talia Al Ghul is not a Blond. She is a Dark haired beauty

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/627/627227/talia-al-ghul-20050619064725979.jpg

I thought someone said she was blonde?

I'm not sure I've ever read a comic with her in it....

[The Incredible Hulk]

I've only ever seen her as a brunette, although Helen Slater did her voice in Batman TAS :)

[AgentPat]

So how does everybody like James Masters as a bad guy in Dragonball Z :woot:Not sure. What's it have to do with TW, Superman, or JL?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Not sure. What's it have to do with TW, Superman, or JL?

Its not the first time this thread has gone off topic :cmad:

[Gmanofsteel]

*waits impatiently*

[Cmill216]

Let's try to stay on topic here, kids.

This is serious business. :supes:

[smsvmos]

Let's try to stay on topic here, kids.

This is serious business. :supes:

Ok ;) Welling is Superman

[AgentPat]

Its not the first time this thread has gone off topic :cmad:Yeah, but it's not like conversation just drifted off topic. I asked because your question came completely out of the blue. Whatever. :dry:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Since Cmill has stepped in I am not even going to bother continuing this. Because if I did it would just end up going on & on & on.

[Gmanofsteel]

Ok ;) Welling is Superman

http://a671.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/58/l_0d82f82420b41373dc871cfbe6cfe04e.jpg

[AgentPat]

Well kudos to Cmill then.

Back to this announcement that's supposed to happen this week... Are any other sites confirming it yet? Latino Review? AICN? Moviehole? Chud? Anybody? I know Jayne was the first person to float the Wizard World Texas date almost two months ago, so if it actually happens on that date, I think she should take a bow. She DEFINITELY was the first to quote the November 18th date.

Anyhoo, I will now officially join Zing in the dept of more than ever wishing I've been wrong. :)

[zerohour films]

Well kudos to Cmill then.

Back to this announcement that's supposed to happen this week... Are any other sites confirming it yet? Latino Review? AICN? Moviehole? Chud? Anybody? I know Jayne was the first person to float the Wizard World Texas date almost two months ago, so if it actually happens on that date, I think she should take a bow. She DEFINITELY was the first to quote the November 18th date.

Anyhoo, I will now officially join Zing in the dept of more than ever wishing I've been wrong. :)


I was asking that question earlier in the JL boards...so far IESB is the only one. Which to me is really odd. I would think LR would have at least chimed in at this point.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I remember when Jayne mentioned the Wizard World thing not even Robert could back that up at the time. But now hes saying to expect news the same weekend as Wizard World. Granted he never mentioned Wizard World but it is ironically the same weekend. It makes one wonder.

[AgentPat]

I was asking that question earlier in the JL boards...so far IESB is the only one. Which to me is really odd. I would think LR would have at least chimed in at this point.Yeah, especially since Robert seems pretty darn sure Teresa Palmer is NOT going to be playing WW. Mmmmm... THAT's interesting. So, does that mean he knows who IS playing WW, or that he knows that Palmer landed another role - Talia, maybe?

Things to ponder.

I remember when Jayne mentioned the Wizard World thing not even Robert could back that up at the time. But now hes saying to expect news the same weekend as Wizard World. Granted he never mentioned Wizard World but it is ironically the same weekend. It makes one wonder.Indeed. I'd have to track back pretty far to see when it was first mentioned, but I KNOW it was Jayne that cited it.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

This is the last big convention before filming supposedly starts right :huh:

[KBX]

http://www.voicesfromkrypton.com/justice_league_on_film/index.html

I believe it was dnno1 who posted it.....

[OobeDoobBenubi]

http://www.voicesfromkrypton.com/justice_league_on_film/index.html

I believe it was dnno1 who posted it.....

That site just copied & pasted what Robert said

[AgentPat]

Yeah, they all copy and paste from IESB. I've yet to see a site "confirm" Sanchez's news.

BTW... I found the quote from Jayne:



Robert,

My email is down so I'm posting this here for you. Something for you to look into while I'm on vacation.

I've been trying to find out more about the press release I told you about and got almost nowhere. However, someone who my husband worked with on a few projects last year that is usually a reliable source told him today that WB is planning to release all info about JLA including cast, filming dates, release date, etc on Nov 18th. After making some calls myself, it turns out that is the last day of the Wizard World Texas Convention. Would they really wait that long to release anything?? I tried confirming it and ran into big brick walls here. I'm hoping you might have better luck.

Let me know what you find out.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12961053&postcount=3932

[TWistim]

5 days and counting! :hyper:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

5 days and counting! :hyper:

& if no announcements happen ? Are you going to hire a hit man to kill Robert :huh:

[KBX]

Yeah it was basically a copy and paste. God I hope Sanchez is right, this really needs to end....

[AgentPat]

Hee! I should post this in the general TW thread, but this thread gets more traffic.

Credit Durq and BadToad from TWOP for the links:

The Supernatural boys were just in Chicago for CreationCon. In this vid (http://users.livejournal.com/_sin_attract/167041.html), Tom gets a little shout-out from Jared! (At the 1 minute, 36 second mark.)

Ackles WORKED with Welling for a whole year and still calls his character "Superman," not "Clark Kent." LOL

And this one from Valerie...

Very cool Dean Cain interview that you can find on Dawnybee's livejournal (http://dawnybee.livejournal.com/352275.html?view=2039571) I love this part about Tom:

Q: Is this the first time you've ever interacted with another member of this fraternity of guys who have played Superman or Clark Kent?

CAIN: It certainly was. It's funny. It's fun. He's a big dude. Tom's big! I mean, I'm 6 foot, 200 pounds, but he's got to be 6-foot-3, 240. He's big, man. That kid is definitely taller than me and definitely bigger.:wow: :woot: :oldrazz:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Was that a breakfast the Supernatural boys were at or a stand up comedy club :huh::woot::ninja:

[AgentPat]

Back to this announcement that's supposed to happen this week... Are any other sites confirming it yet?Hah! Moviehole chimes in, if ever so under the radar:

"About time we had a "Justice League" announcement right? (Clint tells me they'll all be revealed by the end of the week)."
http://www.moviehole.net/news/20071114_capote_star_on_a_star_trek.html

The end of the week, huh? Well... that's like... in the next three days. Whoa nellie! :ninja:

[zerohour films]

Originally Posted by BadToad

Very cool Dean Cain interview that you can find on Dawnybee's livejournal (http://dawnybee.livejournal.com/352275.html?view=2039571) I love this part about Tom:Q: Is this the first time you've ever interacted with another member of this fraternity of guys who have played Superman or Clark Kent?


CAIN: It certainly was. It's funny. It's fun. He's a big dude. Tom's big! I mean, I'm 6 foot, 200 pounds, but he's got to be 6-foot-3, 240. He's big, man. That kid is definitely taller than me and definitely bigger.


LOL...that's really funny to hear from one CK about another.

[The Incredible Hulk]

announcement is coming this week but I dont think it has anything to do with WW Texas.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Hah! Moviehole chimes in, if ever so under the radar:

"About time we had a "Justice League" announcement right? (Clint tells me they'll all be revealed by the end of the week)."
http://www.moviehole.net/news/20071114_capote_star_on_a_star_trek.html

The end of the week, huh? Well... that's like... in the next three days. Whoa nellie! :ninja:

Its nice to see someone else chipping in on this. Please god let this be over with

[Superman_]

So is it confirmed that Welling is back in the running or is all this wishful hoping?

[Syncos]

So is it confirmed that Welling is back in the running or is all this wishful hoping?

I've been loosely following this, but where did Welling's name resurface? o.O

[OobeDoobBenubi]

His name has not resurfaced. Every time there is some kind of new news or rumors about Justice League fan boys here think that the news or rumor is about him. I call it the "muscles syndrome". It is highly dangerous & lives are at stake.

[ZIPBAGS]

I was one of the people who brought his name up. I specifically said nothing was mentioned. But, until he is NOT announced. I am going to keep the hope that he might get the role.

[triplet]

I think the fact that we're talking about the movie on the Smallville forum is going to imply people think that he still has a chance.

If he's not in the cast, this thread will go back to being what it was: a thread to talk about how Supermanly Tom is on Smallville.

[Superman_]

I think he will be Superman only if the strike goes on.

[BH/HHH]

I think he will be Superman only if the strike goes on.

I dunno, I dont think that means much.

Cant WB's just force him to do it lol. :p

[Superman_]

Force him to be Superman in JLA? No, they can force Routh or Bale if they wanted to but not Welling since he doesn't have a contract. However I only say he may do it because it looks like this season of SV may be cut short. But then again it all depends on if he wants to do the movie. He may just not want anything to do with Superman once SV is done.

[BH/HHH]

Couldnt blame him but Id rather have him or Routh than a new guy

[Superman_]

Same here both are great at the role they play but I really think IMO that if Tom isn't in this movie it is because he just wants to separate himself as far from Superman as he can.

[BH/HHH]

yeah, actors get bored with rolls,

[Mike22]

Force him to be Superman in JLA? No, they can force Routh or Bale if they wanted to but not Welling since he doesn't have a contract. However I only say he may do it because it looks like this season of SV may be cut short. But then again it all depends on if he wants to do the movie. He may just not want anything to do with Superman once SV is done.

Same here both are great at the role they play but I really think IMO that if Tom isn't in this movie it is because he just wants to separate himself as far from Superman as he can.

Dude, You are seriously misinformed about Welling. I don`t know where you`re getting this " he doesn`t want to be superman thing" but he himself has NEVER, ever, said it.

And he`s been playing the part for 6+ years now ( the longest any actor has ever played him in supermans history) so really, the typecast argument just doesn`t make sense anymore. For those people that have heard of him, he`s known as superman and nothing else.
They have him wear the blue jeans and blue shirt on every episode and Welling himself said that, that was kinda like wearing the suit.

If he isn`t in JL, then it has nothing to do with him wanting do distance himself from superman, it`s a little to late for that. It`s because the circumstances just didn`t allow it.
I doubt he`s ever gonna get a chance like this again, and he would have been a fool to think otherwise.

I personally don`t think he`s in this movie, I WISH he was but I doubt it, mainly because the circumstances didn`t allow it. I just hope who ever it is that it`s someone that does the part justice.

[triplet]

yeah, actors get bored with rolls,

And some get tired of bagels too...

:ninja:

[blksuperman2]

And some get tired of bagels too...

:ninja:


LOL, and shortbread cookies.

[Prison Mike]

And some get tired of bagels too...

:ninja:

oh snap! :oldrazz:

[phil]

my god with all due respect if I hear another Superman fan say they want the worst actor for Superman of all time continue in that role especially for the JL I think I'll jump off a fkn bridge! Routh had ZERO presence with that character! He wasn't even remotely close to filling out the red (I mean brown) boots.
If they choose someone other than Welling so be it. But in now way should Routh ever be allowed to be that character again! I'm sick and tired of this "3 Superman" bullsht. Routh played him a while ago, he's not a current Superman anymore!!!! Right now there is only 1 Superman that is active and he hasn't even put the suit on yet. And when that show is over and if he's not cast he will no longer have that title either! We will then be down to ONE Superman playing the role in the JL!!!!!!!!
Sorry for flipping out and throwing things around, I'm just sick of people acting like the general publiuc was born yesterday and Superman is such this God like being that people can't go enjoy a movie because there are other actors that have played the same character before.

[TheLongestDay]

.....its not just a new superman tho its a new Batman...and THAT i do have a problem with and i think most of the general public will

[Mike22]

my god with all due respect if I hear another Superman fan say they want the worst actor for Superman of all time continue in that role especially for the JL I think I'll jump off a fkn bridge! Routh had ZERO presence with that character! He wasn't even remotely close to filling out the red (I mean brown) boots.
If they choose someone other than Welling so be it. But in now way should Routh ever be allowed to be that character again! I'm sick and tired of this "3 Superman" bullsht. Routh played him a while ago, he's not a current Superman anymore!!!! Right now there is only 1 Superman that is active and he hasn't even put the suit on yet. And when that show is over and if he's not cast he will no longer have that title either! We will then be down to ONE Superman playing the role in the JL!!!!!!!!
Sorry for flipping out and throwing things around, I'm just sick of people acting like the general publiuc was born yesterday and Superman is such this God like being that people can't go enjoy a movie because there are other actors that have played the same character before.

Routh just wasn`t right for the part, and I`m as glad as can possibly be that he`s being kept away from this movie.
Now, the JL will be released AFTER smallville`s eight season, so the new superman ( whoever he is ) will be knows as the only one. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

There will be no such thing as 3 supermen. good point Phil.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[phil]

.....its not just a new superman tho its a new Batman...and THAT i do have a problem with and i think most of the general public will

with all due respect thats just crazy!!!!!! The general public could give a rats ass! There have been what 4 guys play him in the movies right after another? Do you think they are going to see a different jaw under the mask and get all confused and ***** themselves and forget who they are fo a 1/2 hour? C'mon now if anything they will be glad there not being dragged to the movies by their male freinds or family to watch Scooba Man in action. (that's if JL's Batman doesn't also wear a scooba outfit)
Your putting waaaay too much into the gemeral public caring deeply about superheros and who plays them like the diehard fans in this site. People go to watch a movie period. And whom ever is playing a certain character in that movie they make pertend that the actor playing the character is really that person to enjoy the make pertend world they just paid to see.

[phil]

Thanks mike

[TheLongestDay]

well that is of course your opinion and we can only speculate as to the reaction of the general public,but i think for the first time that an actor has totally embodied the character of Batman-everyone ive spoken to about Batman begins has agreed,from all walks of life-but thats just my experiences.

I think alot of people were torn on routh as superman (most thought he was doing a reeve impression) and personally im all for welling yet people seem torn on him too.

Id say at least 90% of people are totally sold on Bale as Bats and its just gonna be wierd having 2 different ones at the same time,if the rumors are true then Bruce Wayne does have a big role in this film not just Batman...

...but again thats just my opinion

[phil]

The non die hards do not care, I'm sorry. If they were that much into this new Batman BB would have atleast somewhat competed with Spiderman. I bet I could ask 90% of non diehards that liked BB who Christian Bale is they wouldn't know it was the guy who played Batman.
I'm not a comicbook guy, I've owned 5 comicbooks in my life, I just like movies and Superman and Batman from being a kid watching cartoons, TV shows and movies. I consider myself part of the general public. I got suckered into these sites just because Smallville re-energized my love for Superman from childhood.

[TheLongestDay]

The non die hards do not care, I'm sorry. If they were that much into this new Batman BB would have atleast somewhat competed with Spiderman. I bet I could ask 90% of non diehards that liked BB who Christian Bale is they wouldn't know it was the guy who played Batman.
I'm not a comicbook guy, I've owned 5 comicbooks in my life, I just like movies and Superman and Batman from being a kid watching cartoons, TV shows and movies. I consider myself part of the general public. I got suckered into these sites just because Smallville re-energized my love for Superman from childhood.

dont be sorry:cwink:

look i know what you are saying but i think its one thing to have the same characters played by different actors in different mediums i.e.welling on tv,routh on bigscreen but another to have 2 movie franchises running side by side.

It just doesnt sit right with me thats all...

[OobeDoobBenubi]

It just doesnt sit right with me thats all...

Difference of opinion is not in phils vocabulary. He might just jump off a bridge one day & muscles could be right behind him :wow:

[phil]

dont be sorry:cwink:

look i know what you are saying but i think its one thing to have the same characters played by different actors in different mediums i.e.welling on tv,routh on bigscreen but another to have 2 movie franchises running side by side.

It just doesnt sit right with me thats all...

You make a good point, that is a little different then what I argued. But I still feel when someone catches a movie they put themselves into a certain fantasy world in order to believe that it's really happening. And then ad in that there have been many Batman's and then he will be under a mask I just can't see why a non diehard would care as along as that particular actor does the role justice. It's funny that a lot of the diehards use the phrase "confuse the audience" They are not that dumb, they do realize that they are going to see this particular movie and the guy in the mask with pointy ears is Batman. They also know that the character has had many faces portrey Batman. If they were to get "confused" because it's not Bale I wouldn't understand that.
In the end we all have to realize that the general public do not look into these characters like fans do. Yes TDK is comming out but a full year before, do you think the general public will care that someone else played the same character a year before? If your not a fan and follow the character why would that bother anyone? I can certainly watch James Bond and believe it's him within the movie even if i watched the other James bond not too long ago and enjoyed him as well.

[ZIPBAGS]

(clicking heels 3 times)Their's no Supes like Welling...Their's no Supes like Welling. :cwink:

http://ihatesnaps.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/ruby_slippers.jpg

[ZIPBAGS]

Their can be only one!.... :woot:
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/269274/img/269274.jpg

[Sebastos]

Great manip.

[Sebastos]

http://a671.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/58/l_0d82f82420b41373dc871cfbe6cfe04e.jpg

God, it needs to happen!

[The Incredible Hulk]

.....its not just a new superman tho its a new Batman...and THAT i do have a problem with and i think most of the general public will

yeah because we've never had different actors do that before....C'mon now the general public doesnt care about who plays Batman. Most adults have seen Adam West, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, George Clooney, and Christian Bale play the role. They're used to change. The only people that have a problem with it are the people who think Nolan's movie is the greatest thing ever...

[Prison Mike]

yeah because we've never had different actors do that before....C'mon now the general public doesnt care about who plays Batman. Most adults have seen Adam West, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, George Clooney, and Christian Bale play the role. They're used to change. The only people that have a problem with it are the people who think Nolan's movie is the greatest thing ever...

QFT.

yeah, it will only be the fan boys who will have the problem. The general public? Why would they care? As long as the movie has a lot of action, the general public will be there. It's only the fan boys who will scrutinze the casting and story details of the movie.

[Mike22]

You make a good point, that is a little different then what I argued. But I still feel when someone catches a movie they put themselves into a certain fantasy world in order to believe that it's really happening. And then ad in that there have been many Batman's and then he will be under a mask I just can't see why a non die hard would care as along as that particular actor does the role justice. It's funny that a lot of the die hards use the phrase "confuse the audience" They are not that dumb, they do realize that they are going to see this particular movie and the guy in the mask with pointy ears is Batman. They also know that the character has had many faces portray Batman. If they were to get "confused" because it's not Bale I wouldn't understand that.
In the end we all have to realize that the general public do not look into these characters like fans do. Yes TDK is coming out but a full year before, do you think the general public will care that someone else played the same character a year before? If your not a fan and follow the character why would that bother anyone? I can certainly watch James Bond and believe it's him within the movie even if i watched the other James bond not too long ago and enjoyed him as well.

Good post Philhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

First off, what I for the life of me can`t understand is why the people here keep saying that the audience will be confused, and not just here ar the Hype, at other boards as well.
Batman begins didn`t make anywhere near the amount of money for the audience to miss Bale if he were to be replaced.
When people say something like "but, the audience will be confused" it`s nothing more than a reason to back up their case, what ever that may be.
The audience is not stupid, I think they`re fully capable of understanding that this is just a movie and that any actor can be replaced.
If Raimi replaced Tobey after the first spiderman movie, THEN the audience will be confused, because it was such an enormous hit, but a movie like Batman Begins? I really really don`t think so.
The only people that will be pissed off by Bale being replaced for JL are the die hard fans of Batman Begins. And I seriously doubt that Bale has so many fans that they made up for those 371 million it made world wide.
The general audience doesn`t give a rats ass about either Bale or Routh reprising their parts in a movie like JL.

The only thing that matters is that the actors attached to the part in the actual movie do a good enough job that the audience will feel entertained and get a sense of enjoyment after the movie is done.

Just saying...

[Migu-EL]

yeah because we've never had different actors do that before....C'mon now the general public doesnt care about who plays Batman. Most adults have seen Adam West, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, George Clooney, and Christian Bale play the role. They're used to change. The only people that have a problem with it are the people who think Nolan's movie is the greatest thing ever...


It would kind of be weird if someone different didn't play Batman on the big screen. Considering the longest run anyone ever had playing Batman is two movies. It's sort of like a tradition to get a new actor every one or two films.:cwink:

[BH/HHH]

And some get tired of bagels too...

:ninja:

I knew this would happen :D

[TheLongestDay]

It would kind of be weird if someone different didn't play Batman on the big screen. Considering the longest run anyone ever had playing Batman is two movies. It's sort of like a tradition to get a new actor every one or two films.:cwink:

A tradition started by a line of bad films (well the 1st 2 were ok) and bad managing...:cwink:

[Migu-EL]

A tradition started by a line of bad films (well the 1st 2 were ok) and bad managing...:cwink:


LOL:woot:

[triplet]

I knew this would happen :D

LOL!

You know I'm just teasing... I could never be really mean to someone who loves Quantum Leap.

Back in the day, QL was for me like Smallville is now.

Sam Beckett/Scott Bakula totally was the deal.

:D

[musclesforsupes]

Dare I say Welling could be supes today or tomorrow!

[user123456789]

http://a671.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/58/l_0d82f82420b41373dc871cfbe6cfe04e.jpg
best manip i've seen thus far

if only tw had that body

he would be PERFECT for sups

[triplet]

best manip i've seen thus far

if only tw had that body

he would be PERFECT for sups

But he does...

:confused:

You see those pics from Action where he's holding the cape? Even in last week's episode when he was standing next to Kristin in the kitchen when he was only wearing that blue t-shirt, his chest is huge....

[Superman_]

But the question is does he want to be Superman. I mean seriously everyone here seems to be talking like they know Welling or something and are acting like he wants to be Superman. I mean no offense but just because he plays Teenage Clark Kent on TV does not mean he wants to put on the cape and play Superman full time. I mean I hope that he would one day play Superman but at the same time as I said before maybe just may after SV is done he might want to move on to something else. I mean look at Bale he will probably play Batman for 3 movies does that mean he wants to do it the rest of his life? I know we all would like to see Tom as Superman but does Tom really want to do it? I mean as I said before we all would like to see him as Superman but in almost every SV forum I've been to when this topic comes up it seems more like this is being forced upon him by the fans like he owes us something more then it would would be nice.

[Billy Batson]

Hopefully we can talk him and the studio into it, if that is indeed truly the case.
:cwink:



(clicking heels 3 times)Their's no Supes like Welling...Their's no Supes like Welling. :cwink:

http://ihatesnaps.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/ruby_slippers.jpg

LMAO!!! :woot:

[phil]

But the question is does he want to be Superman. I mean seriously everyone here seems to be talking like they know Welling or something and are acting like he wants to be Superman. I mean no offense but just because he plays Teenage Clark Kent on TV does not mean he wants to put on the cape and play Superman full time. I mean I hope that he would one day play Superman but at the same time as I said before maybe just may after SV is done he might want to move on to something else. I mean look at Bale he will probably play Batman for 3 movies does that mean he wants to do it the rest of his life? I know we all would like to see Tom as Superman but does Tom really want to do it? I mean as I said before we all would like to see him as Superman but in almost every SV forum I've been to when this topic comes up it seems more like this is being forced upon him by the fans like he owes us something more then it would would be nice.
I'm really not sure what your point is? How do you know he doesn't want to become Superman? It has been quoted and linked that he spent time at the directors house to discuss it. But to this day you guys still blow that off like it didn't happen. So if he didn't want to do it why would he travel and spend time with the director at his HOME to talk about it? You see that's why we act like he would do it because it's a FACT that he considered it.

So I guess the real question for those who weren't born yesterday is why would in every SR forum try to force it upon him or the other fans that he doesn't want to be Superman? Is it because Welling "owes" it to Singer to step aside or something because his Superman wasn't any good but he was only bad to set up a good version in the next movie?? Because we all know you have to put out a subpar movie to introduce the characters to set up the real deal right?

[ZIPBAGS]

If a announcement was coming from Warner. I would think late this afternoon or tonight would be best. Thus having it available for tomorrow/weekend papers.

[Superman_]

I'm really not sure what your point is? How do you know he doesn't want to become Superman? It has been quoted and linked that he spent time at the directors house to discuss it. But to this day you guys still blow that off like it didn't happen. So if he didn't want to do it why would he travel and spend time with the director at his HOME to talk about it? You see that's why we act like he would do it because it's a FACT that he considered it.

So I guess the real question for those who weren't born yesterday is why would in every SR forum try to force it upon him or the other fans that he doesn't want to be Superman? Is it because Welling "owes" it to Singer to step aside or something because his Superman wasn't any good but he was only bad to set up a good version in the next movie?? Because we all know you have to put out a subpar movie to introduce the characters to set up the real deal right?I am not saying he doesn't want to be Superman. I am just saying how do we really know he wants to continue playing this person for the rest of his life? I am not trying to say he doesn't want the role and if it comes off that way then I am sorry. I am just trying to say how do we know he wants to go this route. We assume that he would because he has played this person on TV for 7 years that it is only natural that he would want to progress to the next step. All I am just saying is do we know what he really wants to do after SV or if he even wants to wear the tights.

[phil]

I am not saying he doesn't want to be Superman. I am just saying how do we really know he wants to continue playing this person for the rest of his life? I am not trying to say he doesn't want the role and if it comes off that way then I am sorry. I am just trying to say how do we know he wants to go this route. We assume that he would because he has played this person on TV for 7 years that it is only natural that he would want to progress to the next step. All I am just saying is do we know what he really wants to do after SV or if he even wants to wear the tights.

Well, I would say that maybe because he doesn't have to play him the rest of his life more like a 10 year span if that. And second because it's a good pay day and future pay days that will be a hell of a lot more than what he makes now. He could finacially set himself up for life instead of doing these low income for a movie supporting roles. At the same time it would make him a legend within this particular industry. He's already a big part second to Reeve, I think he could become THE real life Superman even more than Reeve because of the simple fact that technology could bring this character to life like never before. That to me is enough to make me want to do it for about 2% of the money it could bring him and his family.

[Superman_]

Well I hope your right Phil

[ZIPBAGS]

If Welling doesn't get the part (I hope he does). I am curious if we will ever hear definitively if he was actually SERIOUSLY considered for the role.

[phil]

Well I hope your right Phil

me too buddy, because if I'm not every guy will always be compared to what could have been with the longest running actor for Superman. The debates will never slow down and in the end it only works against the character of Superman.

[Superman_]

me too buddy, because if I'm not every guy will always be compared to what could have been with the longest running actor for Superman. The debates will never slow down and in the end it only works against the character of Superman.No be it that Welling is cast or not every guy will always be compared to Reeve. How ever if Welling is not cast it will fall under the same category of Superman Returns sequel if not made and that is your what could have been or what it would have been like.

[phil]

No be it that Welling is cast or not every guy will always be compared to Reeve. How ever if Welling is not cast it will fall under the same category of Superman Returns sequel if not made and that is your what could have been or what it would have been like.

Your right about Reeve, but Welling stands tall with Reeve as well. SV is now a major part of superman history. SR wasn't good enough for "what ifs"

[phil]

I wish they would announce this already I need to get back to work! I can feel Pat and Serene standing by ready to pounce!

[Superman_]

Your right about Reeve, but Welling stands tall with Reeve as well. SV is now a major part of superman history. SR wasn't good enough for "what ifs"SV is not a major part of Superman history it does have its moments but it is not a major part.

[Pickle-El]

I see Phil is still attempting to bully people with his Welling propaganda....dude, you're too much for even this thread.

Lighten up. Do you actually stay up at night thinking about this stuff?

Just let it be. Opinions have already been formed...besides, there's rules against the type of things you keep saying on this forum. Funny thing is, I don't see anyone really saying much about that. Interesting....:dry:

Anyway, at this point, Welling as Supes may be dead, but I'd rather him over anyone but the 06' guy, that has been mentioned. That's too bad, wouldn't have been such a horrible thing if Welling was next up.

[phil]

who brought the cool guy?

[phil]

I would have to disagree Supes. I think it's now very much on the map especially since it's the longest running show.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I see Phil is still attempting to bully people with his Welling propaganda

He is worse at BlueTights believe it or not. At least here he only sticks around in this place because the other forums he would be bashed to **** in

[The Incredible Hulk]

SV is not a major part of Superman history it does have its moments but it is not a major part.

so the guy who's played the character the longest of anyone ever isnt a major part of the character's history? :confused:

[BH/HHH]

LOL!

You know I'm just teasing... I could never be really mean to someone who loves Quantum Leap.

Back in the day, QL was for me like Smallville is now.

Sam Beckett/Scott Bakula totally was the deal.

:D

I know just knew it was gonna happen, ha ha ha.

[triplet]

so the guy who's played the character the longest of anyone ever isnt a major part of the character's history? :confused:

:confused:

Yeah, I don't see how people figure that.

It's either because it's Tom Welling or because he plays Superman on TV before he actually wears the tights.

The fact is Tom has played the character longer than anyone else in Live Action. Full Stop.

:super:

Tom Welling plays Superman, the tights are just costuming.

[BH/HHH]

so the guy who's played the character the longest of anyone ever isnt a major part of the character's history? :confused:

Its like your speaking from my mind.

[phil]

He is worse at BlueTights believe it or not. At least here he only sticks around in this place because the other forums he would be bashed to **** in

Yeah thats right, I'm very scared to go in the other forums because no one shares my opinion.

[AgentPat]

I wish they would announce this already I need to get back to work! I can feel Pat and Serene standing by ready to pounce!I still have my doubts JL will even happen at this point Phil, but I'd love to find out I was dead wrong. Same goes for Welling in the film if it does happen.

I see Phil is still attempting to bully people with his Welling propaganda....dude, you're too much for even this thread.I saw no "propaganda" in Phil's posts. Phil is just a guy who's aggressively opinionated. If he bugs you that much, put him on ignore.

Lighten up. Do you actually stay up at night thinking about this stuff?

Just let it be. Opinions have already been formedYes, just like everybody here and elsewhere.

besides, there's rules against the type of things you keep saying on this forum. Funny thing is, I don't see anyone really saying much about that.Then report him if you think he's crossed the line. He's not bothering the regs here, so there's been no trolling as far as we're concerned. YMMV.

Interesting....:dry: What's "interesting" Pickle is that you only come here to chastise when somebody lobs one off at SR but you could care less when it's the reverse in other forums where the same rules apply. Why is that, hmmm?

Anyway, at this point, Welling as Supes may be dead, but I'd rather him over anyone but the 06' guy, that has been mentioned. That's too bad, wouldn't have been such a horrible thing if Welling was next up.The '06 guy wasn't asked, and there haven't been any other rumored candidates specifically testing for Superman, so I'm not sure who you're referring to. Scott Porter could be assumed, I suppose, but I don't think they identified the role he auditioned for. I could be wrong however.

I started to tune out JL news when Warners announced that GL and Flash films were going into production and were unrelated to JL. That sent up a big, hairy flag in my mind, but trying to figure out the motivations of Warner Bros is like trying to figure out why there are interstate highways in Hawaii. Some things just don't make sense no matter how much you try to rationalize 'em.

Take the topic of this thread, for example. Short of Welling saying he never wants to play Superman (propaganda: he's NEVER said that), there will be hundreds, perhaps thousands of fans that will continue to look forward to seeing him in the role in a film, and will express that desire on boards such as this. Don't try to rationalize it if it doesn't make sense to you. It makes sense to us, and that's all that counts.

Also, I find it laughable that anybody would argue that SV hasn't had a substantial impact on Superman and how the general public sees him now verses how he was seen say 30 years ago. For better or for worse, SV touched a lot of fans, many of whom might not have even been interested in Superman if it wasn't for how he was portrayed on the show and the stories they told.

[Showtime]

Man I am glad I can accept all incarnations of Superman. I don't have to feel this anger all the time.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

The way I see it AgentPat if there are no announcements this week or weekend to me IESB will loose all credibility when it comes to Justice League news. Right now as a whole IESB is quickly becoming the next AICN & if nothing happens this week or weekend then that will pretty much seal the deal.

[AgentPat]

Man I am glad I can accept all incarnations of Superman. I don't have to feel this anger all the time.There's a difference between being angry and having a staunch opinion. Also, there's nothing wrong with having a preference. We are ALL Superman fans here, are we not? But there wouldn't be a poll feature here if everybody agreed on everything - like favorite incarnation of the Man of Steel.

The way I see it AgentPat if there are no announcements this week or weekend to me IESB will loose all credibility when it comes to Justice League news. Right now as a whole IESB is quickly becoming the next AICN & if nothing happens this week or weekend then that will pretty much seal the deal.I won't think any less of Robert or IESB if it doesn't happen. I know full well that Hollywood changes on a dime, and often when you least expect it. If somebody told Robert an announcement was going to be made, that was accurate at that *moment* in time. Two minutes later, all bets were off. It's Hollywood. Poop happens.

[Superman_]

so the guy who's played the character the longest of anyone ever isnt a major part of the character's history? :confused:I am not saying that Hulk I am saying SV as a whole not one person. If you would like for me to change my post to make that more clear then I will.

[Superman_]

Man I am glad I can accept all incarnations of Superman. I don't have to feel this anger all the time.agreed

[Showtime]

There's a difference between being angry and having a staunch opinion. Also, there's nothing wrong with having a preference. We are ALL Superman fans here, are we not? But there wouldn't be a poll feature here if everybody agreed on everything - like favorite incarnation of the Man of Steel.



For the record, I wasn't refering to you Patty. I just mean; this is all supposed to be for fun, and you're making my point, we are all Superman fans. We all apppreciate Superman in one form or another. I am not saying everybody should agree on everything, but I guess we should realize we're all here for the same reason.

[triplet]

I am not saying that Hulk I am saying SV as a whole not one person. If you would like for me to change my post to make that more clear then I will.

How is that any different?

Smallville has had an effect on the canon, there's even a thread about just that.

[Superman_]

How is that any different?

Smallville has had an effect on the canon, there's even a thread about just that.No it hasn't. Once again guys Birthright was not based off of SV. In fact during a comic con Waid even flat out stated when asked why you used SV as a canon for Birthright. He said he used nothing from SV for Birthright. The only canon SV has had any effect on is Supergirl not Superman. Superman Returns has had an bigger impact on the canon then SV.

[The Incredible Hulk]

you fail at logic Superman__

[Migu-EL]

I still can't get why some fanboys can't comprehend that a T.V. show about a young "Superman"(or Clark Kent before the tights:o ) that has aired for 7 years impacts the history of this character probably just as much as Chris Reeve's Supes had. SV's Clark is this generations Superman whether anyone else wants to agree or not.

[Superman_]

I still can't get why some fanboys can't comprehend that a T.V. show about a young "Superman"(or Clark Kent before the tights:o ) that has aired for 7 years impacts the history of this character probably just as much as Chris Reeve's Supes had. SV's Clark is this generations Superman whether anyone else wants to agree or not.I am not saying it isn't to some people this might be this generations Superman, to others Routh's might be and to others it still may be Reeve and to some it maybe Cain's. All I am saying SV has not had that big of an impact. To be honest Lois and Clark: Then new adv. of Superman has had pretty much a bigger impact then the movies and SV.

[Showtime]

Hmmm...what impact did Lois and Clark have on the canon when compared with Smallville?

[Superman_]

Hmmm...what impact did Lois and Clark have on the canon when compared with Smallville?The wedding of Lois and Clark for starters.

[zerohour films]

No it hasn't. Once again guys Birthright was not based off of SV. In fact during a comic con Waid even flat out stated when asked why you used SV as a canon for Birthright. He said he used nothing from SV for Birthright. The only canon SV has had any effect on is Supergirl not Superman. Superman Returns has had an bigger impact on the canon then SV.


He really said that?
That's surprising. Especially if you look at the character designs of Ma,Pa Kent, somewhat Clark and the addition of Lex's dad--who wasn't a billionaire if I remember but looked just like John Glover--or was he only in the Secret Origins 5pg deal that led to Birthright?

[BH/HHH]

He really said that?
That's surprising. Especially if you look at the character designs of Ma,Pa Kent, somewhat Clark and the addition of Lex's dad--who wasn't a billionaire if I remember but looked just like John Glover--or was he only in the Secret Origins 5pg deal that led to Birthright?

TBH Birthright was good but it had nothing on MOS.

[KalKai]

Jebus christ people, haven't you learned not to get sucked in into a conversation with Superman_?

Don't try to convince him otherwise, please, lol.

[Superman_]

He really said that?
That's surprising. Especially if you look at the character designs of Ma,Pa Kent, somewhat Clark and the addition of Lex's dad--who wasn't a billionaire if I remember but looked just like John Glover--or was he only in the Secret Origins 5pg deal that led to Birthright?Listen to the comic con where Grant Morrison goes off on a fan. In fact it is on the hype some where in the Grant Morrison thread. There you will find the comic con where Waid flat out stats he did not base Birthright on Smallville.

[zerohour films]

Listen to the comic con where Grant Morrison goes off on a fan. In fact it is on the hype some where in the Grant Morrison thread. There you will find the comic con where Waid flat out stats he did not base Birthright on Smallville.


Thanks I'll have to look that one up.
Maybe he got offended at the question thinking he would be called a rip-off or something (not saying he is).
But IMO there is no denying SV's influence on at least some aspects of the book.

[Syncos]

No it hasn't. Once again guys Birthright was not based off of SV. In fact during a comic con Waid even flat out stated when asked why you used SV as a canon for Birthright. He said he used nothing from SV for Birthright. The only canon SV has had any effect on is Supergirl not Superman. Superman Returns has had an bigger impact on the canon then SV.

"Chloe Ann Sullivan is a fictional character (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_character) from the television series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_series) Smallville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallville_%28TV_series%29), played by Allison Mack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allison_Mack). Chloe was introduced by the show's creators to be a "Lois Lane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Lane) archetype (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype)" (but not Lois herself). She was created independently of the canonical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_%28fiction%29) DC Comics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics) Universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Universe), although DC Comics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics) since acquired the character and have plans to introduce her to mainstream continuity in 2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008)."

Yah. Smallville has had absolutely no impact on DC's canon. :whatever:

[Superman_]

Thanks I'll have to look that one up.
Maybe he got offended at the question thinking he would be called a rip-off or something (not saying he is).
But IMO there is no denying SV's influence on at least some aspects of the book.Ask a Grant Morrison fan to help you find the audio where he goes off on a fan at comic-con and there you'll here them ask Waid about Birthright and SV and Waid will flat out say he did not base any part of Birthright off SV. Now the reason being however is because Superboy (back when they were thinking about giving him another solo series) was suppose to be using the elements of SV in his title. But since he was going to die it passed down to Supergirl. Thats why Black K is only in the Supergirl comics and why you see most of the stuff from SV pop up there. And yes hearing Waid did not base Birthright off of SV was a shock to me because those of you who can remember I use to say he did till I heard that audio clip.

[Superman_]

"Chloe Ann Sullivan is a fictional character (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_character) from the television series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_series) Smallville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallville_%28TV_series%29), played by Allison Mack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allison_Mack). Chloe was introduced by the show's creators to be a "Lois Lane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Lane) archetype (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype)" (but not Lois herself). She was created independently of the canonical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_%28fiction%29) DC Comics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics) Universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Universe), although DC Comics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics) since acquired the character and have plans to introduce her to mainstream continuity in 2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008)."

Yah. Smallville has had absolutely no impact on DC's canon. :whatever:How many years has that been said and have we seen her yet? Her character was acquired to be part of Superboy's solo title before he died. She was suppose to be his Lois/Lana and cause a conflict between him and Wonder girl. There are interviews on that as well. Since that fell through they have yet to find a real reason for her to be there.

[Syncos]

Whether Waid consciously based Birthright around Smallville is moot. Smallville was around for years before Birthright was created. It's highly possible that he didn't reference Smallville specifically, but the similarities are uncanny.

To say Waid had never watched an episode of Smallville, writing for DC, is highly improbable. Whether it was simply in the back of his mind while coming up with Birthright, or whether that's just how to "properly" establish Clark's beginnings, is impossible to prove. Regardless, it shows the weight in which the series effects the comics.

[Superman_]

All I am saying is its not based off of SV or has anything to do with SV. I agree with you when I first read it that book seemedlike it was based off the show or influenced by the show but Waid said he didn't use it in any shape or form so there you go.

[Gmanofsteel]

Smallville's contributions to the Superman mythos:

Black Kryptonite
Chloe Sullivan
Birthright's ART - The story might not have been based off Smallville, but the artist CLEARLY took a few things from the show when he was drawing the characters.

[Gmanofsteel]

edit, double post

[triplet]

No it hasn't. Once again guys Birthright was not based off of SV. In fact during a comic con Waid even flat out stated when asked why you used SV as a canon for Birthright. He said he used nothing from SV for Birthright. The only canon SV has had any effect on is Supergirl not Superman. Superman Returns has had an bigger impact on the canon then SV.

Of course Birthright wasn't based on Smallville. but there has been an impact on canon, as TWforSupes has pointed out.

[AgentPat]

For the record, I wasn't referring to you Patty...Oh, I know that hon. :) My statement was just a general comment; I wasn't referring to anybody in particular.

This isn't directed at you Show, but it does frost my cookies just a bit when SV peeps are characterized as "angry fans" that can't accept anybody else as Superman. We may be red headed stepchildren, but this forum isn't the Arkham loony bin either - contrary to what folks might have heard. :p

I see nothing wrong with having a preference - especially when it's over something as non life altering as choice of entertainment. My preference for Superman *right now* is Tom Welling of course, but if they cast a different known actor that I like - even if the actor isn't "Superman" to me - that's okay too. That's kind of hard to explain, but if JL is just a cheesy campfest, I'd rather Welling NOT be in it, 'cause that would only tarnish my appreciation for Superman. If however they cast somebody that was entertaining just because he's fun to watch (Josh Duhamel would be fine by me), I won't care. I'd almost prefer it that way. I'd be able to go to the film, park my brain at the door, wedge a big bucket of popcorn between my knees and have a gay ole time. Err.... you know what I mean. LOL :D

If the film takes itself seriously however, and they cast some unknown dude that's a yawn fest in both appearance and acting ability, I'm gonna hurl. Been there, done that, bought the generic T-Shirt. I have no interest in driving down that road again. If it's a "serious" film ala LOTR, casting is a make or break affair. If it's just a silly fun movie ala F4, I won't care. But I'm not sure what Miller is shooting for with JL, so I'm in wait and see mode.




Back to the SV topic... the fact that SV has lasted as long as it has and is still going strong into its 7th season is testament to its popularity here and around the world. Arguing which characters found their way into the comics from SV, or what comic stories were influenced by the show, is myopic. The show attracts approximately five million viewers a week in the US alone - and they're not always the same viewers. It CONSISTENTLY leads home video sales for Superman titles to the tune of millions of dollars every year. It has a rabid fan base, some of whom would follow the show's stars into the Gates of Hell. Clearly, SV has impact and it continues to rock the mythology. How important it will be in the grand scheme of all things Superman won't truly be known until we're looking back on it ten years from now. We're still in the middle of the forest; the tree line is nowhere to be found at the moment.

[Serene]

This isn't directed at you Show, but it does frost my cookies just a bit when SV peeps are characterized as "angry fans" that can't accept anybody else as Superman.
To be fair, there is that element but that kind of thinking also applies to other *cough* actors, not just Tom.


I see nothing wrong with having a preference - especially when it's over something as non life altering as choice of entertainment. My preference for Superman *right now* is Tom Welling of course, but if they cast a different known actor that I like - even if the actor isn't "Superman" to me - that's okay too. That's kind of hard to explain, but if JL is just a cheesy campfest, I'd rather Welling NOT be in it, 'cause that would only tarnish my appreciation for Superman. If however they cast somebody that was entertaining just because he's fun to watch (Josh Duhamel would be fine by me), I won't care. I'd almost prefer it that way. I'd be able to go to the film, park my brain at the door, wedge a big bucket of popcorn between my knees and have a gay ole time. Err.... you know what I mean. LOL :D

If the film takes itself seriously however, and they cast some unknown dude that's a yawn fest in both appearance and acting ability, I'm gonna hurl. Been there, done that, bought the generic T-Shirt. I have no interest in driving down that road again. If it's a "serious" film ala LOTR, casting is a make or break affair. If it's just a silly fun movie ala F4, I won't care. But I'm not sure what Miller is shooting for with JL, so I'm in wait and see mode.

Couldn't agree more. :up:

[phil]

I actually was a redheaded step child:csad: :yay:

[mathhater]

Smallville's contributions to the Superman mythos:

Black Kryptonite
Chloe Sullivan
Birthright's ART - The story might not have been based off Smallville, but the artist CLEARLY took a few things from the show when he was drawing the characters.

And Lionel's been added to the comics as well. He was mentioned by name once in "Teen Titans."

[The Watchman]

Whether Waid consciously based Birthright around Smallville is moot. Smallville was around for years before Birthright was created. It's highly possible that he didn't reference Smallville specifically, but the similarities are uncanny.

To say Waid had never watched an episode of Smallville, writing for DC, is highly improbable. Whether it was simply in the back of his mind while coming up with Birthright, or whether that's just how to "properly" establish Clark's beginnings, is impossible to prove. Regardless, it shows the weight in which the series effects the comics.

Yeah - suppose you missed the part where Waid actually wrote the script for Birthright prior to Smallville even existing. The art by Yu - that's I'll give you as a visual inspiration.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

"Chloe Ann Sullivan is a fictional character (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_character) from the television series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_series) Smallville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallville_%28TV_series%29), played by Allison Mack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allison_Mack). Chloe was introduced by the show's creators to be a "Lois Lane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Lane) archetype (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype)" (but not Lois herself). She was created independently of the canonical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_%28fiction%29) DC Comics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics) Universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Universe), although DC Comics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics) since acquired the character and have plans to introduce her to mainstream continuity in 2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008)."

Yah. Smallville has had absolutely no impact on DC's canon. :whatever:

They have been saying for years that they will introduce Chloe in the comics & they havent.

[AgentPat]

For what it's worth, according to Don Cott, vice-president of the Canadian affiliate of the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television producers, the last day of production for SV is Jan. 23, 2008.

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=ecfedd1b-8be6-4b5c-b8cb-5ea1e4aad560&k=45805

[Whiteflag]

For what it's worth, according to Don Cott, vice-president of the Canadian affiliate of the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television producers, the last day of production for SV is Jan. 23, 2008.

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=ecfedd1b-8be6-4b5c-b8cb-5ea1e4aad560&k=45805

:csad:

We've been robbed of at least 7 episodes. And Tom may go into hiding. :csad: :csad: :csad:

[AgentPat]

Tom may go into hiding. :csad: :csad: :csad:Yeah, for maybe three weeks-ish.

LOL ;)

[avidreader]

Yeah, for maybe three weeks-ish.

LOL ;)

I know you're half joking/half serious, but if the writers return to work, then Tom will be forced to return to work as well. So he's really not in a position where he can sign a contract for a movie. :csad:

[Showtime]

Oh, I know that hon. :) My statement was just a general comment; I wasn't referring to anybody in particular.

This isn't directed at you Show, but it does frost my cookies just a bit when SV peeps are characterized as "angry fans" that can't accept anybody else as Superman. We may be red headed stepchildren, but this forum isn't the Arkham loony bin either - contrary to what folks might have heard.

I know what you mean, but I was trying to encompass Superman fans as a whole, fans of Superman Returns and the Donner Movies included.

I've watched every episode of Smallville this season, as opposed to only two last season. I am enjoying it.

[musclesforsupes]

Here is hoping tomorrow morning I read Welling is supes

[The Incredible Hulk]

I know you're half joking/half serious, but if the writers return to work, then Tom will be forced to return to work as well. So he's really not in a position where he can sign a contract for a movie. :csad:

if the strike makes it into February, the rest of the season will most likely be scrapped anyway. They'll pretty much know by the time they wrap up shooting Veritas whether they're gonna be doing any more episodes this season.

[AgentPat]

I know you're half joking/half serious, but if the writers return to work, then Tom will be forced to return to work as well. So he's really not in a position where he can sign a contract for a movie. :csad:Oh, I was totally joking. I'm still not sold the film is even gonna happen. LOL

You know, the print edition of Variety is the same as the on-line one in terms of editorial content, but the print edition has pictures and blurbs and side-bar comments.

In the Nov 12-18, 2007 edition of Weekly Variety, the photo caption on the first page of the Film section reads:

"Bond 22," clockwise from top left, "Justice League of America," "The Da Vinci Code" prequel and "The Jetsons" movie are all likely to be held up while the scribes are on strike.

Nothing particularly new there as it does match what's said in the actual article, but wouldn't author Ann Thompson KNOW that Warners was planning an announcement soon? I'll requote a few key points from her article:

An estimated 50 or so projects across studios are at the "go" stage.
A producer who has five films on the bubble, however, estimates that as many as 75% of the "go" projects are actually "up in the air."
To proceed with a project during the strike means no polishes, no response to executive notes, no fixes for actors uncomfortable with their lines, no rethinking of elaborate setpieces that don't work. Even under the best of circumstances, screenplays require writer-assisted tweaking right up until the first day of principal photography and sometimes throughout the shoot.
"There's no such thing as a locked script," says one Sony-based producer who has a go project. "That's just a fact of life. Sometimes you do need more flexibility, and you do need a new scene, and you need to call the writer. That won't be happening."
"How can you make a movie without a writer?" asks manager Patty Detroit. "You can't!"
Many studios are performing triage. When projects are contingent on an actor's availability, movies that are still not cast pose the biggest headache.
Major tentpoles are the most vulnerable should the strike drag on. Warner Bros. execs are nervous about how to proceed with "Justice League of America," which is still uncast and is a crucial potential franchise boasting popular DC Comics characters.
"For any A-plus production," the ICM agent adds, "the fact of the matter is that writing work goes on right up until the first day of principal photography or at least up through the read-through with the cast."
Certain changes are permitted by the Writers Guild basic agreement Sections A through H as "non-writing services": They include switching lines from one actor to another, cutting a scene for length, changes in blocking and minor changes to dialogue. But no adds are permitted, not even pick-ups from the book a movie is based on. That leaves open the issue of whether during a protracted strike, producers, directors, non-WGA writers and studio production executives will take it upon themselves to improve scripts. "It's called scabbing," says Montecito Films' Tom Pollock. "The union takes a dim view."

I don't want to be the pail of water on everybody's fire, but JL is a HUUUUUGE production. We fans have a tendency to oversimplify things like, "oh, if something needs changing in the script, Miller can 'fix' it - uncredited, of course."

Dudes and dudettes, it's not that simple. It just aint.

As to the SV production sked, there will come a time of no return where even if the strike ends, the producers will have to bail on the rest of the season. I have no idea when that time is, but the industry as a whole does NOT expect the strike to end any time soon. The writers could still be walking the picket lines in JUNE!

Lets put it this way... if Warners actually goes through with JL, I think there's a better chance of seeing Welling IN the film than there is of seeing a sixteenth episode of SV this season. But that's not saying much, because I still think the odds of either happening are slim to none.

But hey... fingers crossed. :D

<- wields ax

Brrabaaaaah!!!

<- loves chicken ;)