Tom Welling as Superman

[OobeDoobBenubi]

The WB needs a 2009 Summer movie though & right now they seem to be in to deep with Justice League to just let it go & if the strike lasts to the summer then it would definitely be over early Summer since the Actors Guild plans on going on strike when their contract ends.

[TheComicbookKid]

The strike isn't going to last until 2009. :woot: Hopefully. It's not panick time to have something for that summer until the summer of 2008.

[The Incredible Hulk]

I don't want to be the pail of water on everybody's fire, but JL is a HUUUUUGE production. We fans have a tendency to oversimplify things like, "oh, if something needs changing in the script, Miller can 'fix' it - uncredited, of course."



alright, that was my quote. Why isnt it that easy for Miller and Osborne to do rewrites to the shooting script? :confused: Directors do it all the time. Donner and Mankiewicz rewrote a ton of things in the shooting script for S:TM but were never given credit for it.

[AgentPat]

alright, that was my quote. Why isnt it that easy for Miller and Osborne to do rewrites to the shooting script? :confused: Directors do it all the time. Donner and Mankiewicz rewrote a ton of things in the shooting script for S:TM but were never given credit for it.Was it? I've seen people say that often about Miller tweaking the script during production, so I wasn't directing my response to you personally, Hulk. It was kind of a general statement.

There wasn't a writer's strike in place when Mank and Donner massaged the S:TM script. They also went insanely over budget trying to shoot two films at once, and spent two years doing it. That poop isn't allowed to happen anymore - not when 200 million dollars are at stake and a saturation release date is set with 4000+ theaters in the US alone, and many more skedded for a day and date release worldwide. They HAVE to deliver on time.

The scope of JL is bigger than the average superhero flick. It blows away X-Men, F4, SR and many other live action comic genre films simply by virtue of its SEVEN main superhero protagonists - one of which is rumored to be completely CGI - and an army of super-powered foes. IF casting is incomplete as the Variety article indicates, then they have a problem on their hands. A big problem. A film of this size might have characterizations and dialog tailored specifically for the actors cast. If the cast is incomplete, that's a lot of rewrites for the director. Does Miller have the time for that and all of his other responsibilities? I dunno.

There's other extenuating circumstance that have me sitting on the fence, not the least of which is Warners other solo film ventures already put into development. I'd love to see this film happen; I really, really would. But something... just doesn't seem right. It hasn't for weeks. But hey, it doesn't stop me from clicking over to Google and checking the news like every 10 minutes, and my heart still skips a beat when some idiot posts a joke cast list over at IESB. LOL Old habits die hard.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

This is Justice League related ‘Laguna Beach’ Boy Talan Torriero Dreams Of Playing Aquaman (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/11/14/laguna-beach-boy-talan-torriero-dreams-of-playing-aquaman/)

[zerohour films]

In keeping with things not sounding right. Here is some more news...

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/11/14...aying-aquaman/ (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/11/14/laguna-beach-boy-talan-torriero-dreams-of-playing-aquaman/)



Talan Torriero gushes over Aquaman

moviesblog.mtv.com (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/11/14/laguna-beach-boy-talan-torriero-dreams-of-playing-aquaman/)
November 15, 2007 - 1393 reads
Talan Torriero star of the reality show 'Laguna Beach' is washing up in a new horror film called 'Driftwood' but hopes to eventually swim into the Aquaman part in 'Justice League (http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=29995#)'.
He told MTV (http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=29995#) Movies Blog, "You know what I really am pushing for? I really want to be Aquaman in 'Justice League.' … It’s a superhero movie, so it’s probably hard to even get in there, but I really want it badly. I really want to be Aquaman so badly."
http://www.comics2film.com/qxzv/www/delivery/lg.php?bannerid=3&campaignid=2&zoneid=3&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.comics2film.com%2Findex.php%3 Fa%3Dstory%26b%3D29995&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.comics2film.com%2Findex.p hp%3Fa%3Dstory%26b%3D29995&cb=a667a5d83f

So, it sounds like he wants to be Aquaman, although it's not really clear if he read for the role.


Guess he hasn't read that the cast is "locked in"
Man, they really need to get it over with already and announce something--anything.

[zerohour films]

This is Justice League related ‘Laguna Beach’ Boy Talan Torriero Dreams Of Playing Aquaman (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/11/14/laguna-beach-boy-talan-torriero-dreams-of-playing-aquaman/)

You beat me to it! :yay:

[Superman_]

Smallville's contributions to the Superman mythos:

Black Kryptonite
Chloe Sullivan
Birthright's ART - The story might not have been based off Smallville, but the artist CLEARLY took a few things from the show when he was drawing the characters.And all of that is in Supergirl. Except for Chloe,as far as she goes DC has yet to use her or even mention her. Also Birthright art is not based off of SV. The art that is based off of SV came in the Camelot Falls arc where they drew for 1 panel teenage Clark looking like Welling.

[Migu-EL]

And all of that is in Supergirl. Except for Chloe,as far as she goes DC has yet to use her or even mention her. Also Birthright art is not based off of SV. The art that is based off of SV came in the Camelot Falls arc where they drew for 1 panel teenage Clark looking like Welling.

Isn't the reason that DC hasn't used Chloe yet is because they are waiting for Smallville to finish so they can see where her character ends up?

[Superman_]

Isn't the reason that DC hasn't used Chloe yet is because they are waiting for Smallville to finish so they can see where her character ends up?NO the reason why she was suppose to show up was to be apart of the Superboy series when it was going to be relaunched. Chloe was going to be the Lana/Lois of Conner's life and was suppose to be the reason why him and Wonder Girl break up. However due to the lawsuit Superboy was killed and those plans were just tossed out. Because really the SV world was suppose to take place comic wise in Superboy. However since his death it is now taking place in the Supergirl comics. Which is why only Supergirl has encountered the Black K. They have since thought about using Chloe for the Superman title but Dan Didio (The President of DC Comics) has repeatedly said no to the idea.

[AgentPat]

Somebody bring me up to speed here. What's the argument again?

I like Chloe, but what's her inclusion or exclusion in the comics have to do with anything? :huh:

[Superman_]

Nothing at all it was a debate that went off topic.

[Prison Mike]

so does anyone think the casting will be announced today or this weekend?

[The Incredible Hulk]

I've honestly stopped caring

[triplet]

I've honestly stopped caring

Caring about JLA or the argument about whether or not SV has influenced the comics?

:confused:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Maybe Robs sources mixed up Justice League with Harry Potter 6 :woot:

[AgentPat]

Caring about JLA or the argument about whether or not SV has influenced the comics?

:confused:*snort* :D

[AgentPat]

Maybe Robs sources mixed up Justice League with Harry Potter 6 :woot:Oh SNAP! I thought you were joking!!! :eek:


Casting Complete for Harry Potter 6!
Friday, 16 November 2007

Casting has been completed on the much-anticipated sixth installment of the Warner Bros. Pictures Harry Potter film franchise, "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince." The announcement was made by Jeff Robinov, President of Production, Warner Bros. Pictures.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3726&Itemid=99HAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Aight folks, stick a fork in this un. JL is done.

...unless they plan to have *another* breaking news announcement today? :huh:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Aight folks, stick a fork in this un. JL is done.


To be fair on Robs side he never did specify a date of the announcement he only said they were getting ready to make some announcements. But the Harry Potter news does make one wonder :ninja: Either way Rob should do some explaining today & update the situation which I am sure he will once people there start calling him out.

[Migu-EL]

Caring about JLA or the argument about whether or not SV has influenced the comics?

:confused:

*snort* :D


I could care less about Chloe being in the comics or any other of Smallville's adaptation being in there as well. I don't follow the comics religiously:ninja: , so either way Smallville will be a major part of Superman history in my eyes no matter what the comics do.

Now, Justice League I do care about because I love seeing good movies. Hopefully I'll be happy with the casting of Superman, whether it's Welling or not. Aslong as this Superman is believable then it's all good in my book.:up:

[Migu-EL]

Oh SNAP! I thought you were joking!!! :eek:

Casting Complete for Harry Potter 6!
Friday, 16 November 2007

Casting has been completed on the much-anticipated sixth installment of the Warner Bros. Pictures Harry Potter film franchise, "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince." The announcement was made by Jeff Robinov, President of Production, Warner Bros. Pictures.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option...26&Ite mid=99 (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3726&Itemid=99)


HAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Aight folks, stick a fork in this un. JL is done.

...unless they plan to have *another* breaking news announcement today? :huh:
:wow: :ninja: :csad:

[Superman_]

I just hope the Justice League cast is good. I hope Welling will be Superman for the movie but if not I am more then willing to give the other guy a chance. I am just hoping the people they cast for the rest of the league like somewhat like their counterpart and can act.

[AgentPat]

To be fair on Robs side he never did specify a date of the announcement he only said they were getting ready to make some announcements. But the Harry Potter news does make one wonder :ninja:Well, they said "by this weekend." I suppose it could still happen at WWTX, but.... why? They just had a major announcement for HP6 with Robinov present. They could have announced both at the same time, no?

I think it's done, 'Boose. :ninja:

Shaq agrees!

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/aditi_kinkhabwala/06/27/better.half/p1_shaq.jpg

[Superman_]

When you say you think its done do you mean you think the movie won't happen?

Personally I think it could go either way right now with the solo projects getting the go ahead. They just might wait and bring them all together. Or wait till after Nolan is done with Batman.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

The director for the new Terminator movie was also announced today. Well more like confirmed & reported but same thing.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Caring about JLA or the argument about whether or not SV has influenced the comics?



Both.




HAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Aight folks, stick a fork in this un. JL is done.

...unless they plan to have *another* breaking news announcement today? :huh:


I dont think the casting of a movie on its 5th installment is that big of a news piece...

[Gmanofsteel]

Oh, I was totally joking. I'm still not sold the film is even gonna happen. LOL

You know, the print edition of Variety is the same as the on-line one in terms of editorial content, but the print edition has pictures and blurbs and side-bar comments.

In the Nov 12-18, 2007 edition of Weekly Variety, the photo caption on the first page of the Film section reads:

"Bond 22," clockwise from top left, "Justice League of America," "The Da Vinci Code" prequel and "The Jetsons" movie are all likely to be held up while the scribes are on strike.

Nothing particularly new there as it does match what's said in the actual article, but wouldn't author Ann Thompson KNOW that Warners was planning an announcement soon? I'll requote a few key points from her article:

An estimated 50 or so projects across studios are at the "go" stage.
A producer who has five films on the bubble, however, estimates that as many as 75% of the "go" projects are actually "up in the air."
To proceed with a project during the strike means no polishes, no response to executive notes, no fixes for actors uncomfortable with their lines, no rethinking of elaborate setpieces that don't work. Even under the best of circumstances, screenplays require writer-assisted tweaking right up until the first day of principal photography and sometimes throughout the shoot.
"There's no such thing as a locked script," says one Sony-based producer who has a go project. "That's just a fact of life. Sometimes you do need more flexibility, and you do need a new scene, and you need to call the writer. That won't be happening."
"How can you make a movie without a writer?" asks manager Patty Detroit. "You can't!"
Many studios are performing triage. When projects are contingent on an actor's availability, movies that are still not cast pose the biggest headache.
Major tentpoles are the most vulnerable should the strike drag on. Warner Bros. execs are nervous about how to proceed with "Justice League of America," which is still uncast and is a crucial potential franchise boasting popular DC Comics characters.
"For any A-plus production," the ICM agent adds, "the fact of the matter is that writing work goes on right up until the first day of principal photography or at least up through the read-through with the cast."
Certain changes are permitted by the Writers Guild basic agreement Sections A through H as "non-writing services": They include switching lines from one actor to another, cutting a scene for length, changes in blocking and minor changes to dialogue. But no adds are permitted, not even pick-ups from the book a movie is based on. That leaves open the issue of whether during a protracted strike, producers, directors, non-WGA writers and studio production executives will take it upon themselves to improve scripts. "It's called scabbing," says Montecito Films' Tom Pollock. "The union takes a dim view."

I don't want to be the pail of water on everybody's fire, but JL is a HUUUUUGE production. We fans have a tendency to oversimplify things like, "oh, if something needs changing in the script, Miller can 'fix' it - uncredited, of course."

Dudes and dudettes, it's not that simple. It just aint.

As to the SV production sked, there will come a time of no return where even if the strike ends, the producers will have to bail on the rest of the season. I have no idea when that time is, but the industry as a whole does NOT expect the strike to end any time soon. The writers could still be walking the picket lines in JUNE!

Lets put it this way... if Warners actually goes through with JL, I think there's a better chance of seeing Welling IN the film than there is of seeing a sixteenth episode of SV this season. But that's not saying much, because I still think the odds of either happening are slim to none.

But hey... fingers crossed. :D

<- wields ax

Brrabaaaaah!!!

<- loves chicken ;)


wait . . . . THE JETSONS?!!! lol

[TWistim]

What does Scott Porter have to do with the sci-fi/comic world that would get him invited to WWTX? Did he do something sci-fi/comic related before he played the football player on "Friday Night Lights"? Or is he just an aficienado?

[The Incredible Hulk]

What does Scott Porter have to do with the comic world that would get him invited to WWTX? Did he do something comic related before he played the football player on "Friday Night Lights"? Or is he just an aficienado?


he's in Speed Racer

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0811080/

[Superman_]

Well if Justice League does fall through just be happy we'll be getting a Ghostbusters 3

[zerohour films]

Well if Justice League does fall through just be happy we'll be getting a Ghostbusters 3


GB3 ??!?!??
Hadn't heard about that one. Interesting...hope they haven't waited too long to make it.

[TWistim]

he's in Speed Racer

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0811080/

Okay. Thanks, Hulk.

[Superman_]

GB3 ??!?!??
Hadn't heard about that one. Interesting...hope they haven't waited too long to make it.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34793

They felt this would be the best way to do it and are calling this the third Ghostbusters movie.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Well if Justice League does fall through just be happy we'll be getting a Ghostbusters 3

You do know that is a Video Game & not a Movie dont you

[Showtime]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34793

They felt this would be the best way to do it and are calling this the third Ghostbusters movie.

Well I don't know why they are trying to make it seem like the 3rd movie, a game is a game. I am geeked up for this.

[Antonello Blueberry]

In the Nov 12-18, 2007 edition of Weekly Variety, the photo caption on the first page of the Film section reads:
"Bond 22," clockwise from top left, "Justice League of America," "The Da Vinci Code" prequel and "The Jetsons" movie are all likely to be held up while the scribes are on strike.



This morning Giancarlo Giannini got a bit late to the press conference for his latest Italian movie. He apologized saying he had barely got off a plane. He was in London doing costume tests for the new James Bond movie...

[Superman_]

You do know that is a Video Game & not a Movie dont you
Yea but the cast and crew are treating it like it was a movie. This is the official sequel to the movies and since I am a Ghostbusters fan I'll take this movie any way I can.

[RakuMon]

Yea but the cast and crew are treating it like it was a movie. This is the official sequel to the movies and since I am a Ghostbusters fan I'll take this movie any way I can.

No kidding! :up:

Also how dope is this game going to be on the Wii?! Can you imagine using the Wii wand as a proton emitter?!

[RakuMon]

By the by, G4 has actual footage of the game play!

"Nobody steps on a church in my town!"

[ZIPBAGS]

Boy this thread has really branched out....From Welling as Superman to Smallville's effect on the comics to Ghostbusters. ;)

[zerohour films]

Boy this thread has really branched out....From Welling as Superman to Smallville's effect on the comics to Ghostbusters. ;)


Now we just need to come full circle and somehow tie Ghostbusters in with Welling becoming Superman and all of it affecting the comics....

anyone game?

[AgentPat]

Oh.... shi...........................

http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showpost.php?p=1488929&postcount=331

:ninja:




http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/fireproof.jpg

[Thunder Emperor]

Oh.... shi...........................

http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showpost.php?p=1488929&postcount=331

:ninja:




http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/fireproof.jpg

I am preparing myself for anything rigth now. I have got the right protection in place.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Oh great another "leak" :csad:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If Iris is talking about the Cast List then :ninja: Iris alone talking about a Cast List is not a good sign.

[AgentPat]

If Iris is talking about the Cast List then :ninja: Iris alone talking about a Cast List is not a good sign.In what way?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

In what way?

No idea either way I am tired of "leaks" something better happen this weekend officially damn it

[Zorex]

Oh dear... I don't even know if I'd believe it. If it was just a list with no validation... I dunno. Bring it on, I say. Bring on the conflict and the anger.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Oh dear... I don't even know if I'd believe it. If it was just a list with no validation... I dunno. Bring it on, I say. Bring on the conflict and the anger.

Real or not fun times are ahead :woot:

[Paradoxium]

Bond 22 delayed because of the strike?

:whatever:

Haggis is getting paid $6 million for his script. If he is on the picket line, someone ought to slap him around silly.

up-in-arms over it, especially for "Superman."
This could mean:
1. Tom Welling is Superman (thereby pissing off SR fanboys)
2. Brandon Routh is Superman (thereby pissing off Wellingites)
3. Someone else is Superman (thereby pissing off SR fanboys and Wellingites)

The fandom will always be up-in-arms. It's almost a no win situation. :D:up:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

This could mean:
1. Tom Welling is Superman (thereby pissing off SR fanboys)
2. Brandon Routh is Superman (thereby pissing off Wellingites)
3. Someone else is Superman (thereby pissing off SR fanboys and Wellingites)

The fandom will always be up-in-arms. It's almost a no win situation. :D:up:

Keep in mind with the web site Iris runs. :ninja: Although for me personally if he got the role I would not loose sleep over it & keep in mind we have no way of knowing if this script is even real or not when it does leak.

[TWistim]

Oh.... shi...........................

http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showpost.php?p=1488929&postcount=331

:ninja:


Who is Iris? Would this person have information that is reliable?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Who is Iris? Would this person have information that is reliable?

She runs his name can not be spoken of here.com & I would think she has contacts at the WB & probably does know someone or two that knows him.

[Mig-El]

I have a feeling it's someone young. Why would she put "Superman"? Man, I hate her and everyone who "seems" to be in the know. Color me frustrated!

[AgentPat]

No idea either way I am tired of "leaks" something better happen this weekend officially damn itGotcha.

If this IS real, and Iris really IS privy to who was cast, that post speaks volumes. 'Cause I doubt she'd be all negative about it and say fandom would be up in arms if it were BR. She'd say a lot of people would be happy if that were the case. Her "people," of course. If it's some nobody - oh well; I *expect* that. But if it's Welling....

Oh... man.... Break out the Nomex folks; we's gonna need it.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Infamous_Emijayne - wrote:

Is this good or bad?

People at that site still believe he (Routh) was up for the role and wanted by the majority of fans. Since he will NOT be in JLA, his fans will be up in arms about it. But don't expect someone any better in the role either. So pretty much it's gonna be bad news all around. With Welling out, we'll end up with another too young and too skinny Superman. WB just doesn't care.

[Mig-El]

If it's announce this Sunday at Wizard World, then that would be Tom's dayoff right?! WTF, I'm being delusional. :(

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If it's announce this Sunday at Wizard World, then that would be Tom's dayoff right?! WTF, I'm being dillusional. :(

Infamous_Emijayne just said that Tom is out & that the WB just does not care.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Surfing BR.com much Pat? :p

all that comment tells me is that it isnt Routh, considering that's the fandom she's talking about. We've all known Routh had noshot since Day 1 anyway so this is hardly earth-shattering.

[Mig-El]

Read my second sentence. lol

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Could this movie really be Friday Night Lights in Tights ?

[AgentPat]

Who is Iris? Would this person have information that is reliable?She runs Brandon Routh's fansite. She's doesn't like Welling LOL.


I'm guessing it's gonna be some skinny nobody whose young, green and stupid enough to sign a three picture deal for crap money. :p

[The Incredible Hulk]

Infamous_Emijayne just said that Tom is out & that the WB just does not care.

I've lost any faith in anything she said after that whole cast list fiasco over at IESB.

[AgentPat]

Surfing BR.com much Pat? :pBaahaaa!! Nuuuu... somebody posted about it on IESB. I just tracked it back to the source.

[ZIPBAGS]

Well if its a Brandon Routh forum. Maybe, I can get excited that it might be Welling. Also, hoping Emijayne is wrong AGAIN. I can hope. :D

[musclesforsupes]

I am soo gonna be pissed this weekend I have a feeling :(

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If its an unknown & new person then I will wait & see with him. But if its some punk from some ****ty TV show then :cmad:

[Mig-El]

It's funny and sad how everyone here and iesb are already "up-in-arms" over the casting when nothing has been announced yet.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

It's funny and sad how everyone here and iesb are already "up-in-arms" over the casting when nothing has been announced yet.

Welcome to Fandom

[musclesforsupes]

Face it the WB are idiots, Miller is just a hack director, and well this movie will be sucky.

[Mig-El]

Well at least iesb and br.com/bluetights are getting some hits, right? <huge sarcasm>

[The Incredible Hulk]

Face it the WB are idiots, Miller is just a hack director, and well this movie will be sucky.

choke yourself :cmad:

[TWistim]

She runs his name can not be spoken of here.com & I would think she has contacts at the WB & probably does know someone or two that knows him.



She runs Brandon Routh's fansite. She's doesn't like Welling LOL.



Thanks. So she may know something but she obviously doesn't like the news. :ninja:

I'm just so tired of all the back and forth I've lost all interest in this film. It would have to be someone really exciting *cough*TW*cough* to get me excited about this film again. :dry:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

choke yourself :cmad:

He & phil should pick that bridge out this weekend :woot:

[AgentPat]

It's funny and sad how everyone here and iesb are already "up-in-arms" over the casting when nothing has been announced yet.Oh hell, I'm not up in arms. I still have my doubts the film is even happening. LOL

Seriously though, I know it aint gonna be Routh, so he's out. If it's not Welling - which we've been prepared for for WEEKS - oh well. And if it's some skinny nobody - which I DO expect - it'll make it that much easier for me to write off. If they get somebody I *do* like (other than Welling), well... that makes it harder, 'cause then I'd be sucked into wanting to see the film. :p

[Mike22]

It`s probably Duhamel. I hate the idea of it, but it`s probably him.

[AgentPat]

Thanks. So she may know something but she obviously doesn't like the news. :ninja:Exactly, and since she already KNEW Routh was out, that tells me she knows who's IN. And if she's already not happy with the choice, that means she knows something about who was chosen. A complete unknown would be... well... unknown. I would hope Iris - of all people - would give such an individual the benefit of the doubt at that point. Since she isn't, I'm guessing the actor has a resume - and perhaps even a "reputation." LOL

I'm just so tired of all the back and forth I've lost all interest in this film. It would have to be someone really exciting *cough*TW*cough* to get me excited about this film again. :dry:TW is the only choice that would have me doing cartwheels. But I would be excited if they cast awesomeness in the other roles. For example, I'd be excited to see the film if Danny DeVito were Superman - and Matthew MacConahey were Aquaman. Or Bruce Willis were Lex Luthor. Or Ryan Reynolds were Flash. :D

Maybe those names don't float everybody's boats, but that would do it for me. :up:

PS: I'm kidding about the Danny DeVito part. Insert "some nobody" in the role of Superman, as long as the other actors are all full of awesomeness.

But yeah, I know that aint gonna happen. Oh well.

[ZIPBAGS]

There can be only one!
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8154/smallvillepostercopyaa2.png

:woot:

[Mig-El]

Ok Pat, "It's funny and sad how "some"..." lol.

My final casting guess before the eventual storm of discussion...even though it may not happen:

Superman: Tom Welling
Batman: Andy W.
Wonder Woman: Mary Elizabeth Winstead
Green Lantern: Common
Aquaman: Ryan Gosling
Flash: Scott Porter
Marstian Manhunter: CGI

Maxwell Lord: Josh Duhamel
Thalia: Theresa Palmer

Just for fun to ease the nerves. :)

[AgentPat]

It`s probably Duhamel. I hate the idea of it, but it`s probably him.He's NO Superman, that's for damn sure. But he's entertaining. I like him as an actor, so I wouldn't have a problem parking my brain and watching him do his thing in spandex.

...actually... I'd probably enjoy that. LOL

But yeah, he aint no Superman. If he were cast, I'd just treat it as a dumb popcorn movie. Something to do with two hours in the summer - y'know? Given the rumored Transformers approach, that's probably exactly the attitude they'd want people to take.

[TWistim]

I still have my doubts the film is even happening.

That has been my thought lately. But, why would Robert say the movie is cast and they've been sworn to secrecy pending an announcement this week? I'm thinking he's pretty reputable and I don't think he would just say that unless he'd verified that especially after all that happened earlier. Am I being naive?

I was over at K-site a couple of days ago and Luv2csmallville said that Tom has been looking different this season and we would find out why soon. IMO he has never looked more Supermanly than he has this season, both in appearance and demeanor. May not mean anything related to JLA, but you never know. :cwink:

[Mike22]

He's NO Superman, that's for damn sure. But he's entertaining. I like him as an actor, so I wouldn't have a problem parking my brain and watching him do his thing in spandex.

...actually... I'd probably enjoy that. LOL

But yeah, he aint no Superman. If he were cast, I'd just treat it as a dumb popcorn movie. Something to do with two hours in the summer - y'know? Given the rumored Transformers approach, that's probably exactly the attitude they'd want people to take.

Yeah, he ain`t no superman. I gotta tell ya, I`m hating this, but in the end, when push comes to shove, I `d rather it be him than Routh. I think he`d look pretty decent physically,( he`s definitely no Welling, that`s for damn sure) but he has potential to be a better looking superman ( physically) than Routh was.
At the very end of it, at least I`ll get some new material to manip Toms face into. ( Honest to GOD, when I heard that Welling was out, that was the only thing I thought this movie was gonna be good for, more maniping material)http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Mike22]

That has been my thought lately. But, why would Robert say the movie is cast and they've been sworn to secrecy pending an announcement this week? I'm thinking he's pretty reputable and I don't think he would just say that unless he'd verified that especially after all that happened earlier. Am I being naive?

I was over at K-site a couple of days ago and Luv2csmallville said that Tom has been looking different this season and we would find out why soon. IMO he has never looked more Supermanly than he has this season, both in appearance and demeanor. May not mean anything related to JLA, but you never know. :cwink:

You give me hope... thank you.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[triplet]

There can be only one!
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8154/smallvillepostercopyaa2.png

:woot:

You should do a grammar check there, Zip.

:ninja:

[triplet]

That has been my thought lately. But, why would Robert say the movie is cast and they've been sworn to secrecy pending an announcement this week? I'm thinking he's pretty reputable and I don't think he would just say that unless he'd verified that especially after all that happened earlier. Am I being naive?

I was over at K-site a couple of days ago and Luv2csmallville said that Tom has been looking different this season and we would find out why soon. IMO he has never looked more Supermanly than he has this season, both in appearance and demeanor. May not mean anything related to JLA, but you never know. :cwink:

I don't know if I'd put a whole lot of store into what luvs says over there on k-site...

[Mig-El]

That has been my thought lately. But, why would Robert say the movie is cast and they've been sworn to secrecy pending an announcement this week? I'm thinking he's pretty reputable and I don't think he would just say that unless he'd verified that especially after all that happened earlier. Am I being naive?

I was over at K-site a couple of days ago and Luv2csmallville said that Tom has been looking different this season and we would find out why soon. IMO he has never looked more Supermanly than he has this season, both in appearance and demeanor. May not mean anything related to JLA, but you never know. :cwink:

This is what I'm wondering too. There's just too many coincidences to suggest Tom will be Superman. From Tom's agent saying "no comment", the paparazzi's pictures of Tom in LA (?) during the JLA auditions, to the new LoS's Superman cartoon which resembles Tom, his "Superman" looks from Smallville, etc...

When it comes to the Tom rumors, Louis Simo from Hollywoodland said it best: "I can see the pieces. How they should fit. How I want them to fit."

I guess we'll find out soon enough.

[ZIPBAGS]

You should do a grammar check there, Zip.

:ninja:


Your worse than my wife. ;)

[Mig-El]

You should do a grammar check there, Zip.

:ninja:

LOL.

[TWistim]

You give me hope... thank you.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

Your welcome. Hope is what has kept this boat afloat for so long IMO. I honestly just can't think of another actor that I think would be as perfect for the part so naturally I continue to hope and will until this announcement actually is made. At the same time I am prepared that it may not be him.


Originally Posted by triplet
I don't know if I'd put a whole lot of store into what luvs says over there on k-site...


I know what you're saying and I have had my doubts. She did know about the blue ring many months ago . . . and that made me wonder?

[TWistim]

This is what I'm wondering too. There's just too many coincidences to suggest Tom will be Superman. From Tom's agent saying "no comment", the paparazzi's pictures of Tom in LA (?) during the JLA auditions, to the new LoS's Superman cartoon which resembles Tom, his "Superman" looks from Smallville, etc...

When it comes to the Tom rumors, Louis Simo from Hollywoodland said it best: "I can see the pieces. How they should fit. How I want them to fit."

I guess we'll find out soon enough.

I hear ya, Mig-El. :up:

[AgentPat]

Has anybody asked Jana about Luvs? I mean, she's always PM'ing her. I'd trust Jana LOOOOONG before I'd trust Luvs, but if Jana trusts Luvs... well... maybe there's something there? Just sayin'.

[Mig-El]

Your welcome. Hope is what has kept this boat afloat for so long IMO. I honestly just can't think of another actor that I think would be as perfect for the part so naturally I continue to hope and will until this announcement actually is made. At the same time I am prepared that it may not be him.



I know what you're saying and I have had my doubts. She did know about the blue ring many months ago . . . and that made me wonder?

Another piece to the puzzle? hehe.

[TWistim]

Has anybody asked Jana about Luvs? I mean, she's always PM'ing her. I'd trust Jana LOOOOONG before I'd trust Luvs, but if Jana trusts Luvs... well... maybe there's something there? Just sayin'.

Hmmmmmmm . . . Good thought!

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Jett has this to say about Batman

I hope HOPE!!! -- will all my being that this is total BS.

But I've got to give y'all a chance to give to say your peace about this casting rumor -- and that's why I'm doing this.

The name that I got of who was cast as Batman in JUSTICE LEAGUE is Armie Hammer. This is total BS, right? SOMEONE tell me it is!!!

Could it be a total fabrication? Your dadgum right it could be (*crosses fingers*) -- and let’s certainly hope so. But I gotta tell y’all, the way I got this info -- combined with a lot of off the record info and “investigating” -- has got me thinking, well, “No F’n Way!”

You know what I’m saying here, right?

At any rate, let’s PLEASE hope that this is total bunk and that I’ve been had. Well, I haven’t been had because I think it’s BS. But if -- IF -- “THEY” are even thinking about casting this film with such actors, comic book movie fans need to unite and say “HELL NO.”

Nothing personal, but this dude isn't The Dark Knight.

We got Iris & Jett both pissed off about Superman & Batman :ninja:

[Paradoxium]

Iris said it's not Tom Welling for sure. Whew. Sigh of relief :woot:

[ZIPBAGS]

Has anybody asked Jana about Luvs? I mean, she's always PM'ing her. I'd trust Jana LOOOOONG before I'd trust Luvs, but if Jana trusts Luvs... well... maybe there's something there? Just sayin'.

Jana, Luvs, Emi, etc, etc. My head is spinning.... :wow:

Who are all of these people?... And why can't anyone give a straight answer???

[Mig-El]

Armie Hammer on imdb..
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2309517/bio

"He is the great-grandson of industrialist, art collector, and philanthropist Armand Hammer."

"He collects knives and other weaponry."

Seems kinda like Batman to me...hehe. I kid, I kid.

Seriously though, terrible choice if it's true.

[ZIPBAGS]

Iris said it's not Tom Welling for sure. Whew. Sigh of relief :woot:


I hope she is wrong.

[Mike22]

Why the flippin hell are people putting weight into what Iris has to say about this. Not exactly a neutral source there, she loves Routh and doesn`t exactly love the idea of Welling as superman, especially if it meant that he`d be replacing Routh.
I wouldn`t put any sort of weight in what she has to say.

[triplet]

I know what you're saying and I have had my doubts. She did know about the blue ring many months ago . . . and that made me wonder?

She knew about the ring before anyone else?

Well, I guess it's possible she's for real....

*shrug*

I don't do spoilers so I learned going into that thread isn't a good idea so I don't keep up with it.

Has anybody asked Jana about Luvs? I mean, she's always PM'ing her. I'd trust Jana LOOOOONG before I'd trust Luvs, but if Jana trusts Luvs... well... maybe there's something there? Just sayin'.

If Jana trusts Luvs there might be something there, true, but why is she always asking luvs to clear out her inbox or return her PMs?

I'd like the answer to that.

Iris said it's not Tom Welling for sure. Whew. Sigh of relief :woot:

:p

I hope she is wrong.

QTF

[AgentPat]

I just saw that comment from Iris.

That makes it easier! And if Jett is right, whoo hooo... this is gonna BURN. Hehehehe.

Personally... I'm freakin' RELIEVED. Even though nothing is official yet, it feels good to put this behind us. Ahhhhh... :up:

Pull up a chair folks. Let's watch the fireworks! :D

<- Shares her popcorn.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/popcorn.gif

[triplet]

You're worse than my wife. ;)

Check the grammar again, Zip.

:ninja:














:D

[triplet]

I just saw that comment from Iris.

That makes it easier! And if Jett is right, whoo hooo... this is gonna BURN. Hehehehe.

Personally... I'm freakin' RELIEVED. Even though nothing is official yet, it feels good to put this behind us. Ahhhhh... :up:

Pull up a chair folks. Let's watch the fireworks! :D

<- Shares her popcorn.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/popcorn.gif

Okay, Iris said this:

It's def not Welling; he was never part of the equation (http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showpost.php?p=1488982&postcount=350).

Personally I'd never buy anything she has to say on the subject, but I guess we'll see.

[Mike22]

Okay, Iris said this:
Personally I'd never buy anything she has to say on the subject, but I guess we'll see.

Exactlyhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[ZIPBAGS]

Check the grammar again, Zip.

:ninja:


:D

trIpleT; YUre juste in-Corekt,

:yay:

[The Incredible Hulk]

LOL now all of a sudden she has a casting info? :confused:

She was saying Miller wasnt going to direct JLA a few months ago. Consider the source. Although what she's saying about Tom is correct, not that it takes inside info to know that

[AgentPat]

Y'know, I took a peek at rumored Batman dude on IMDb: 6'5", bright eyes, kinda... um... nice looking. :O

As to Iris... does it surprise anybody here that she'd say Welling was never part of the equation? She said George Miller wasn't directing JL either. C'mon folks. :rolleyes:

[triplet]

Exactly http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

:D

trIpleT; YUre juste in-Corekt,


LOL!



LOL now all of a sudden she has a casting info? :confused:

Yeah, really.

Y'know, I took a peek at rumored Batman dude on IMDb: 6'5", bright eyes, kinda... um... nice looking. :O

He's tall, taller than Tom even.

Nice looking but only 21 or so. He's got more money that he probably knows what to do with and grew up in the Cayman Islands because his dad liked what he saw in the Firm so he seems kinda cool, but batman?

Meh...

As to Iris... does it surprise anybody here that she'd say Welling was never part of the equation? She said George Miller wasn't directing JL either. C'mon folks. :rolleyes:

She's definitely not reliable in anyway when it comes to news about Routh or Welling. She's always going to skew it pro-BJ no matter what the real skinny is.

[Mike22]

Y'know, I took a peek at rumored Batman dude on IMDb: 6'5", bright eyes, kinda... um... nice looking. :O

As to Iris... does it surprise anybody here that she'd say Welling was never part of the equation? She said George Miller wasn't directing JL either. C'mon folks. :rolleyes:

Glad ya`ll came to your senses.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[ZIPBAGS]

:D

She's always going to skew it pro-BJ no matter what the real skinny is.


Not for nothing. But, their is nothing wrong with being pro-BJ. :word:

[The Incredible Hulk]

Not for nothing. But, their is nothing wrong with being pro-BJ. :word:

depends on which end of the equation we're talking about here :)

[AgentPat]

He's tall, taller than Tom even.

Nice looking but only 21 or so. He's got more money that he probably knows what to do with and grew up in the Cayman Islands because his dad liked what he saw in the Firm, but batman?

Meh...Oh, no doubt. I'd crack a rib if I tried to imagine him as Batman. Haa!! But this movie went from "quality" and "serious" to "campy," "popcorn" and "eyecandy" a long time ago. If I see it, it's gonna be because I want to ogle its stars and watch Miller go all Michael Bay for two hours, nothing more. :D :up:

Just let me know when the release date is and I'll pencil it in. I'm not gonna follow it in pre-prod.

[musclesforsupes]

Hell I waited all day and nothing. Where the heck is Robert?!

[triplet]

Not for nothing. But, their is nothing wrong with being pro-BJ. :word:

LOL!

:D

depends on which end of the equation we're talking about here :)

:ninja:

Oh, no doubt. I'd crack a rib if I tried to imagine him as Batman. Haa!! But this movie went from "quality" and "serious" to "campy," "popcorn" and "eyecandy" a long time ago. If I see it, it's gonna be because I want to ogle its stars and watch Miller go all Michael Bay for two hours, nothing more. :D :up:

Just let me know when the release date is and I'll pencil it in. I'm not gonna follow it in pre-prod.

Well, if Hammer is Bats that certainly isn't the kind of batman I'd like to see. Bruce can be pretty, he's often portrayed as very handsome in the comics, but he probably should be a tad bit older.

21 is a tad young, but I wish I could find a bigger picture of him. He sure looks cute enough...

*shrug*

If Tom ain't in it, especially with pretty youngins in the cast who may or may not be able to actually act, I'll just wait it out on the side-lines with you.

I still may see it but I certainly won't follow it as closely as I would have if Tom had been in the cast.

[Mike22]

Hell I waited all day and nothing. Where the heck is Robert?!
Robert is being quiet so his site can keep getting high hits that under normal circumstances it would never have gotten, that`s why he`s being quiet.
Even if he knows something, doubt he`ll let us know ALL of it, probably just bits and pieces.

[AgentPat]

Well, if Hammer is Bats that certainly isn't the kind of batman I'd like to see. Bruce can be pretty, he's often portrayed as very handsome in the comics, but he probably should be a tad bit older.

21 is a tad young, but I wish I could find a bigger picture of him. He sure looks cute enough...

*shrug*

If Tom ain't in it, especially with pretty youngins in the cast who may or may not be able to actually act, I'll just wait it out on the side-lines with you.

I still may see it but I certainly won't follow it as closely as I would have if Tom had been in the cast.I probably won't bother seeing it in the theater. I don't go to the movies all that much. When I do, it's gotta be something GOOD. I'll likely pick up the DVD, however. I've *yet* to see Spider-Man 3, but the DVD is sitting on my coffee table. I've yet to see Ghost Rider, Pathfinder or Sin City too - but same story with them; I own the DVD, I just haven't watched the films yet. Pathetic, I know, but I'm complicated - and picky. :oldrazz:

[TWistim]

Okay, Iris said this:

Originally Posted by Iris
It's def not Welling; he was never part of the equation (http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showpost.php?p=1488982&postcount=350).

Personally I'd never buy anything she has to say on the subject, but I guess we'll see.

She's obviously delusional. I don't know much but I definitely believe that Tom was approached.


Y'know, I took a peek at rumored Batman dude on IMDb: 6'5", bright eyes, kinda... um... nice looking.


Agreed. Nice enough eyecandy but can he act? If he's Batman, then they obviously went with the tweenie crowd and it's not going to be my kind of movie.

[AgentPat]

Agreed. Nice enough eyecandy but can he act?Oh, you want him to act too? Pfft! I think you're asking for too much now. LOL

If he's Batman, then they obviously went with the tweenie crowd and it's not going to be my kind of movie.There was some report months ago that Miller was looking to cast young. I wrote it off in my head as "Worst. Rumor. Ever." But here we are. Oh well. *sigh*

Warner Bros. are dumb. Whatcha gonna do? :csad:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Oh, you want him to act too? Pfft! I think you're asking for too much now. LOL

There was some report months ago that Miller was looking to cast young. I wrote it off in my head as "Worst. Rumor. Ever." But here we are. Oh well. *sigh*

Warner Bros. are dumb. Whatcha gonna do? :csad:

Remember the Friday Night Lights cast rumor :oldrazz: Friday Night Lights in tights this movie could be :dry:

[AgentPat]

Remember the Friday Night Lights cast rumor :oldrazz: Friday Night Lights in tights this movie could be :dry:Yup. As nice looking as rumored Batman dude is, we're still 0 for 7 so far. Think Scott Porter landed the Supes' role? In terms of casting for character, the film looks like it's gonna suck canal water. :whatever:

[TWistim]

Oh, you want him to act too? Pfft! I think you're asking for too much now. LOL

There was some report months ago that Miller was looking to cast young. I wrote it off in my head as "Worst. Rumor. Ever." But here we are. Oh well. *sigh*

Warner Bros. are dumb. Whatcha gonna do? :csad:

Exactly. :up:

[Syncos]

Yup. As nice looking as rumored Batman dude is, we're still 0 for 7 so far. Think Scott Porter landed the Supes' role? In terms of casting for character, the film looks like it's gonna suck canal water. :whatever:

it's going to suck Harbour Water.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Harbour#Pollution

[AgentPat]

Exactly. :up:Every once in a blue moon, the suits at Warners do something that gives me encouragement that they really aren't a bunch of untrained monkeys flinging feces at a wall. But then like clockwork, they go and do something like this and prove me wrong. There's truth in the old adage you should always trust your instincts. :p




Hey... something just occurred to me. Isn't Cmill a moderator for the JL forum?

Oh... man. It's gonna SUCK to be him when that announcement is made. (Sorry dude.) ;)

[AgentPat]

it's going to suck Harbour Water.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Harbour#PollutionLOL!

If it's out there, it's in Wikipedia.

[Gmanofsteel]

Bond 22 delayed because of the strike?

:whatever:

Haggis is getting paid $6 million for his script. If he is on the picket line, someone ought to slap him around silly.


This could mean:
1. Tom Welling is Superman (thereby pissing off SR fanboys)
2. Brandon Routh is Superman (thereby pissing off Wellingites)
3. Someone else is Superman (thereby pissing off SR fanboys and Wellingites)

The fandom will always be up-in-arms. It's almost a no win situation. :D:up:

Seeing as she's a devoted Routh fan, I'm assuming its either 1 or 3

[AgentPat]

I was over at K-site a couple of days ago and Luv2csmallville said that Tom has been looking different this season and we would find out why soon. IMO he has never looked more Supermanly than he has this season, both in appearance and demeanor. May not mean anything related to JLA, but you never know. :cwink:Okay, news died down tonight, so I figured I'd track back this tidbit to the source and try to make heads or tails of it.

Here's the original post (smileys edited out - Luvs is out of control with smileys):

Originally posted by luv2csmallville
NO, darn it was not Tom. Both of Tom and Kristin were doubles, was never going to be aired at all that way, but they film in whole then take the pieces they want in editing. Sometimes they don't use any of what they film at all, they use CGI, especially sense Matt is on set.

Contracts are now even tighter than first few seasons, they are to use body doubles for any close up body shots or in female bare back, belly etc. shots. In Toms case no below the waist shots. (DAMN IT!) Any bare butt shots you have seen were not Tom. There is a part coming up that will also NOT be Tom but Tom still acts out part with no shirt on then they put in ????? in editing.

You may have noticed a difference in Toms appearance in recent eps. You'll find out why soon.

And sorry K-site didn't even think about that pic being............ well.................... inappropriate - was tired.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3430599#post3430599Luvs was talking about an early episode (Slumber) where they used body doubles for Kreuk and Welling. In context with the rest of the post, my stab in the dark is that the "you'll find out why soon" reference has nothing to do with JL or a movie role and all to do with an upcoming nude or shirtless scene with Welling - which is fine by me. LOL

What do you guys think?

[Serene]

Armie Hammer on imdb..
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2309517/bio

"He is the great-grandson of industrialist, art collector, and philanthropist Armand Hammer."

"He collects knives and other weaponry."

Seems kinda like Batman to me...hehe. I kid, I kid.

Seriously though, terrible choice if it's true.

6'5"?! Dayum. Are we sure this guy wasn't cast as Supes? I always picture Supes as being taller than Batman. I can't imagine them getting anyone much taller than that. It's the best show out there (that not enough people are watching :().


Remember the Friday Night Lights cast rumor :oldrazz: Friday Night Lights in tights this movie could be :dry:

Don't go bashing FNL now. :mad: FNL is about the BEST show on TV right now, IMO. Okay, I still love SV more, but FNL is really a wonderful show. It's the best show out there (that not enough people are watching.) :(

[avidreader]

Okay, news died down tonight, so I figured I'd track back this tidbit to the source and try to make heads or tails of it.

Here's the original post (smileys edited out - Luvs is out of control with smileys):

Luvs was talking about an early episode (Slumber) where they used body doubles for Kreuk and Welling. In context with the rest of the post, my stab in the dark is that the "you'll find out why soon" reference has nothing to do with JL or a movie role and all to do with an upcoming nude or shirtless scene with Welling - which is fine by me. LOL

What do you guys think?


I wish I could understand that girl's posts, then I might be able to speculate what she means..... but I have no idea what she's trying to say or imply. :huh:

Does she start off talking about the horseriding scene? I'm kind of lost. :O

[AgentPat]

6'5"?! Dayum. Are we sure this guy wasn't cast as Supes?Ugh. I don't think I'd even want to own the DVD in that case. :(

In a way, I guess I can see why the Bat fans are so upset if that happened. 'Cause while I like Batman and Bale's characterization, I'm not a slave to either. I do have an image in my head of what Batman should look like - and Bale pretty much owns it - if they venture outside of that box, I really don't care. Just being honest here.

Superman, on the other hand.... You have to believe it, otherwise they fail.[/Yoda] LOL

[AgentPat]

I wish I could understand that girl's posts, then I might be able to speculate what she means..... but I have no idea what she's trying to say or imply. :huh:

Does she start off talking about the horse riding scene? I'm kind of lost. :ONo no... click on the link. You'll see she's taking about that opening scene in Slumber. Then she goes off about the nudity clauses in the actor's contracts. At that point she mentions Welling's different look this season, and why we would soon find out why that is.

I dunno - in context with the rest of the post, to assume a film role (any film role) is kind of out of left field. I'm pretty sure she's talking about the show and an upcoming episode.

[AgentPat]

Here's the latest from Sanchez:

Adam Brody IS Wally West/The Flash.
Common IS John Stewart/The Green Lantern. (kinda knew that already)
Teresa Palmer IS Talia al Ghul.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3735&Itemid=99

Yeah. Okay. Whatever. So, SO not interested in this film. Oh well.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

What the **** :huh: Is this Justice League or The Wonder Years :csad:

[AgentPat]

What the **** :huh: Is this Justice League or The Wonder Years :csad:Tell me about it. Don't forget rumored Batman dude (21). LOL

Honestly, I wonder why they didn't just do a Teen Titans film?

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Honestly, I wonder why they didn't just do a Teen Titans film?

The only ones I like in that bit is Common as John Stewart (I am going to give him a chance) & Palmer as Talia. She is hot but she is definitely not right for Wonder Woman but Talia I can see.

[TWistim]

No no... click on the link. You'll see she's taking about that opening scene in Slumber. Then she goes off about the nudity clauses in the actor's contracts. At that point she mentions Welling's different look this season, and why we would soon find out why that is.

I dunno - in context with the rest of the post, to assume a film role (any film role) is kind of out of left field. I'm pretty sure she's talking about the show and an upcoming episode.

Well, in context of the isolated post I would certainly agree. For some reason I thought her comment had something to do with past talk about how Tom might have toned up in preparation for his role in JLA. Maybe I just read that into it at the time due to wishful thinking. :huh: Didn't mean to mislead anyone. Thanks for clearing it up, Pat.

So where's our shirtless scene? :hyper:

[AgentPat]

The only ones I like in that bit is Common as John Stewart (I am going to give him a chance) & Palmer as Talia. She is hot but she is definitely not right for Wonder Woman but Talia I can see.The thing is, those names pretty much tell us what we'll be getting for the other roles, and it aint 'pecial.

Adam Brody as Flash? You gotta be freakin' kidding me? THAT's who they thought would be a good "replacement" for Ryan Reynolds? Jeeze. If it wasn't so sad it'd be funny.

[Docker2.0]

Pat you have pics of these guys? I mean.......................just for argument sakes. :o

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Adam Brody as Flash? You gotta be freakin' kidding me? THAT's who they thought would be a good "replacement" for Ryan Reynolds? Jeeze. If it wasn't so sad it'd be funny.

Indeed Brendan Fraser would make a better Wally West then Adam Brody :csad:

[Serene]

Here's the latest from Sanchez:

Adam Brody IS Wally West/The Flash.

Isn't Adam Brody about 98 pounds soaking wet?


Teresa Palmer IS Talia al Ghul.
:confused:


Yeah. Okay. Whatever. So, SO not interested in this film. Oh well.

So, I guess Robert was given the okay to release only those names, but not the biggies.

This is going to be very interesting.

[AgentPat]

Well, in context of the isolated post I would certainly agree. For some reason I thought her comment had something to do with past talk about how Tom might have toned up in preparation for his role in JLA. Maybe I just read that into it at the time due to wishful thinking. :huh: Didn't mean to mislead anyone. Thanks for clearing it up, Pat.

So where's our shirtless scene? :hyper:Not soon enough. :(

Y'know, even though it's a shortened season, thank goodness for SV. It's so depressing reading about JL and what they're doing with it, that I'm more happier to see Supergirl on SV instead. That should tell ya something. :ninja:

[TWistim]

Not soon enough. :(

Y'know, even though it's a shortened season, thank goodness for SV. It's so depressing reading about JL and what they're doing with it, that I'm more happier to see Supergirl on SV instead. That should tell ya something. :ninja:

LOL! That says alot!

Sadly, I am now convinced (and thankful) Tom is so not in this film! :wow:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Robert said

heard that things dont look good for Josh Duhamel, just FYI.

[AgentPat]

Pat you have pics of these guys? I mean.......................just for argument sakes. :oNot at my fingertips. But you can IMDb 'em. I know who they all are.

Indeed Brendan Fraser would make a better Wally West then Adam Brody :csad:Oh hell, I'd take Brendan Fraser as ANY of the cast (except Wonder Woman of course LOL) in a cocaine heartbeat. He's got the age, the body AND the acting chops.

Isn't Adam Brody about 98 pounds soaking wet?Yeah, and kinda short too. Wasn't he pretty much nose to nose with Allison Mack in Magnetic?

:confused:Talia is one of the antagonists. She's the sister of Liam Neeson's character in Batman Begins, which I'm sure has the Bat's fans BatBullPoopsCrazy right about now. LOL

So, I guess Robert was given the okay to release only those names, but not the biggies. I guess. *shrugs*

This is going to be very interesting.Yeah, in a kinda sick, perverted way. Watching fanboys whine like five year old school girls should be a hoot. LOL :p

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Talia is one of the antagonists. She's the sister of Liam Neeson's character in Batman Begins

Talia is Ras daughter actually

[AgentPat]

Robert said

heard that things dont look good for Josh Duhamel, just FYI.Muhahahaha!!!! And the final ax comes crashing down. Mint. :D :up:

I didn't want to even be *tempted* to see this nonsense, and that seals the deal. I'da gone for Duhamel. Only thing that would change my mind now is Welling, and that just isn't gonna happen.

[AgentPat]

Talia is Rah's daughter actuallyOh snap! You're right. My bad. Shows ya how much I've been paying attention. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/oopz.gif

[Serene]

Talia is Rah's daughter actually

Which is why I'm confused. Ra's is Chinese, yes? Teresa Palmer is about as far from Asian as a person can get. If it was an isolated character, changing the race isn't such a big deal, but since Talia is known for being Ra's daughter, it seems very odd that they'd cast someone that looks like a California girl.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Teresa Palmer is about as far from Asian as a person can get. If it was an isolated character, changing the race isn't such a big deal, but since Talia is known for being Ra's daughter, it seems very odd that they'd cast someone that looks like a California girl.

Maybe this version will take more from her mothers side in the looks department but she gets daddys evilness

[Docker2.0]

Wow! People thought that after BB, WB actually learned their lesson and was getting it right. Even though I didn't like SR, I did feel Singer was a step into that direction. But Wow!! WB hasn't learned a thing!! :eek:

[AgentPat]

Which is why I'm confused. Ra's is Chinese, yes? Teresa Palmer is about as far from Asian as a person can get. If it was an isolated character, changing the race isn't such a big deal, but since Talia is known for being Ra's daughter, it seems very odd that they'd cast someone that looks like a California girl.Ras was played by Liam Neeson in BB. ;)

[Serene]

Ras was played by Liam Neeson in BB. ;)

:confused: Er.. no. Ra's was played by Ken Watanabe, a Japanese actor.

Oh wait... he wasn't the "real" Ra's, right? I guess I should watch BB again.

[AgentPat]

Wow! People thought that after BB, WB actually learned their lesson and was getting it right. Even though I didn't like SR, I did feel Singer was a step into that direction. But Wow!! WB hasn't learned a thing!! :eek:I'm guessing they're going for the young/hip teen aged audience. Brody and The OC were popular and had a nice sized fanbase. It's one of the arguments I'd use for casting Welling, though I think with Welling, they'd get all four quadrants, not just teens. I don't know anybody over 20 who watched the OC, but even my MOTHER watches SV LOL. And I'm 42, just for the record. ;)

:confused: Er.. no. Ra's was played by Ken Watanabe, a Japanese actor.

Oh wait... he wasn't the "real" Ra's, right? I guess I should watch BB again.Exactly! Watanabe wasn't the "real" Ras. That was Neeson. It was kind of a twist near the end. There was a bit of a faux pas early in the production when cast lists were distributed - Neeson was listed as Ra's, which seriously confused fans. The list was correct of course, but it was quickly "fixed." Darn secretaries - giving away the big surprise in the film. LOL

[zerohour films]

Which is why I'm confused. Ra's is Chinese, yes? Teresa Palmer is about as far from Asian as a person can get. If it was an isolated character, changing the race isn't such a big deal, but since Talia is known for being Ra's daughter, it seems very odd that they'd cast someone that looks like a California girl.

In actuality, Ras' ethinicity is never mentioned in the comics I don't believe. He is drawn in a way that he could been seen as coming from lots of different backgrounds.

[musclesforsupes]

Holy F! Scott Friday Night Porter As Supes! What The Hell. I Hate You Wb! Where Is Welling, Do You Guys Just Hate Fans And People Of Comics In General! I Hope The Dc Comic Executives Take The Dc Franchise Away From You And Give It To Another Studio. Wb Has Only Done One Thing Right In This Franchise And That Was Superman The Movie. God I Am Soo Pissed Now, Does The Wb Think That The Backlash For This Film Will Not Be Felt? Do They Thing This Will Be Loved? I Swear At Comic Con Someone Better Ask About Welling When This Film Gets Promoted.

[Prison Mike]

nothing has been officially confirmed as of yet, right? I'll wait for an official announcement before I get pissed.

[Mike22]

Scott Porter could be superman???
I cannot.believe.this.SH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!t.
I go to sleep for a few hours and this is what I wake up to?
Worst fkn day ever. The guy doesn`t look ***** like superman.
And just how the hell do they go about hiring a guy that`s only 6'0 foot tall. In that case I`d a rather chosen Dean Cain over this guy. And what the hell happened to Duhamel, at least he was more appropriate for the part.
I know the WB have made mistakes in their past, but I REFUSE to believe they can be THIS God damn dumb. Do they honestly think they can get away with this? What, are they smoking pot during these casting calls of what? If this ***** about Porter is true, then he`s gonna get flamed more then Routh ever was.

[zerohour films]

Scott Porter could be superman???
I cannot.believe.this.SH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!t.
I go to sleep for a few hours and this is what I wake up to?
Worst fkn day ever. The guy doesn`t look ***** like superman.
And just how the hell do they go about hiring a guy that`s only 6'0 foot tall. In that case I`d a rather chosen Dean Cain over this guy. And what the hell happened to Duhamel, at least he was more appropriate for the part.
I know the WB have made mistakes in their past, but I REFUSE to believe they can be THIS God damn dumb. Do they honestly think they can get away with this? What, are they smoking pot during these casting calls of what? If this ***** about Porter is true, then he`s gonna get flamed more then Routh ever was.


Tell me about it. And now AICN is saying the announcement won't come until next week (more than likely by Saturday).

Well you know what, if this is what they have in store for us then I have no interest in finding out the rest at the moment.

What a joke if true.

I'm not familiar with FNL or Porter's role. But wouldn't he have just as much trouble going to Australia to film as TW scheduling wise?

[triplet]

Porter is a joke.

I have never seen FNL but he looks bland as hell and at 6 feet, he's way too short.

If the 6'5" guy, Armie Hammer, is Batman that makes it even worse. No way should Batman be taller than Superman but to tower over him? Ridiculous.

[KALEL114]

Porter is a joke.

I have never seen FNL but he looks bland as hell and at 6 feet, he's way too short.

If the 6'5" guy, Armie Hammer, is Batman that makes it even worse. No way should Batman be taller than Superman but to tower over him? Ridiculous.
Couldn't have said better myself. Hopefully the rumors are incorrect.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

What new rumors :huh:

[KALEL114]

What new rumors :huh:

/Mori/Merrick/Quint/Vern (who am I forgetting?)
I want you to have this before that OTHER site gets it... and I know they will.
The trades are going to announce the cast of Justice League next week, but courtesy someone connected to Ken Ralston I can tell you four confirmed names.
- Adam Brody (THE O.C., GILMORE GIRLS, THANK YOU FOR SMOKING)
- Common (SMOKIN' ACES, WANTED)
- Scott Porter (SPEED RACER 'Rex Racer', FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS tv show, DESCENT, MUSIC AND LYRICS)
- Teresa Palmer (WOLF CREEK, THE GRUDGE 2, DECEMBER BOYS)
Palmer is not Wonder Woman, I believe she's a villain. Brody is Wally West. Common is The Green Lantern. Porter, they think, is Superman. There's also word that Michael Gough might be appearing as Alfred.
The full cast should be revealed by this time next week.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34814

[triplet]

What new rumors :huh:

Scott Porter is Superman and Adam Brody is Flash. Check out the IESB boards.... Emi's essentially confirmed those.

If true, I say: blech.

I'm going to have to bring back my "Warner Brothers is run by Idiots" sig line.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

/Mori/Merrick/Quint/Vern (who am I forgetting?)
I want you to have this before that OTHER site gets it... and I know they will.
The trades are going to announce the cast of Justice League next week, but courtesy someone connected to Ken Ralston I can tell you four confirmed names.
- Adam Brody (THE O.C., GILMORE GIRLS, THANK YOU FOR SMOKING)
- Common (SMOKIN' ACES, WANTED)
- Scott Porter (SPEED RACER 'Rex Racer', FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS tv show, DESCENT, MUSIC AND LYRICS)
- Teresa Palmer (WOLF CREEK, THE GRUDGE 2, DECEMBER BOYS)
Palmer is not Wonder Woman, I believe she's a villain. Brody is Wally West. Common is The Green Lantern. Porter, they think, is Superman. There's also word that Michael Gough might be appearing as Alfred.
The full cast should be revealed by this time next week.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34814

Which one listed the news we already heard about the other dudes ? IESB or AICN ? I would think IESB did it first & ugh the only way I will see this movie is if Winstead is Wonder Woman every else I will be ignoring.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Scott Porter is Superman and Adam Brody is Flash. Check out the IESB boards.... Emi's essentially confirmed those.

If true, I say: blech.

I'm going to have to bring back my "Warner Brothers is run by Idiots" sig line.

The only way I will see this movie is if Winstead is Wonder Woman & everyone else I will gladly give them the finger

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Mary Elizabeth Winsteads birthday is next Saturday & AICN the casting announcement will be happening next week but a friend of Marys is throwing an early birthday party for her this week. Wonder Woman congratulations & birthday party maybe :huh:

[Zing79]

I think WB may have just found someone that will unite just about everyone -- in hating him.

I'll be interested to see if across the board it's nothing but hatred for this guy (unlike the semi split that happened when Routh was cast).

[Showtime]

http://www.wizardworld.com/fcoponilijas.html

FEATURED GUESTS:

Scott Porter
(Friday Night Lights' Jason Street)

I guess he's not just there for Speed Racer. :csad:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

You know Scott Porter does not look that bad when hes not in Friday Night Lights

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/72987130.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABB96D923C4F003E9FE A40A659CEC4C8CB6

His character in Friday Night Lights looks nothing like Supes so I guess it depends on how they do the makeup & stuff with him. He still sucks though.

[Mike22]

I have nothing against Porter personally, but for such an iconic part as SUPERMAN...I`m sorry, but I just don`t like the idea of this possibly being the new face of superman not only in JL, but for the new superman reboot as well.
His face is all wrong, the fact that he`s to short could possibly have been worked around, but again, his face is all wrong.
But in the end I`m not blaming him, he`s just a hopeful actor hoping to hit it big time on the big screen. The ones I blame are the Damned retarded WB for thinking that this would be better accepted than Routhie boy was, and he actually looks like superman.
Unless they just need "someone" to play superman for the sake of having this character in the movie in order to introduce the other lesser known DC characters, and then have Welling in the reboot version, they are making one hell of a big mistake.

I for one, have my doubts that this could be the new superman, he just doesn`t fit the bill, and even the WB can`t be as stupid as this, and not look back and realise that this new guy is gonna go through the same hell that Routh went through.
They.......can`t..............be..........this ...........stupid.....can they?:huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:

[blksuperman2]

They.......can`t..............be..........this ...........stupid.....can they?:huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:


Short answer. Yes. Yes they are.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

They.......can`t..............be..........this ...........stupid.....can they?:huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:

They want young & they want to get the teen crowd it seems with this cast. Hold on to your nuts its gong to be a bumpy ride. I have been saying since the beginning that this will not be a fan boy movie.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Here is an article about Scott Porter as Superman

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Scoop-Scott-Porter-Is-JLA-s-Superman-6958.html

Everyone seems to agree WB will make an official announcement next week

[triplet]

Here is an article about Scott Porter as Superman

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Scoop-Scott-Porter-Is-JLA-s-Superman-6958.html

Everyone seems to agree WB will make an official announcement next week

Bland-looking city here...



http://www.notaboyband.com/bioscott.jpg

:(

[Whiteflag]

I wish SP at least had an upper lip. :mad: :dry:

[DvilDog]

Ok excuse me while i vomit. Here I was thinking I drank too much last night and was gonna feel like butt this morning but no felt fine till I read this garbage. Well WB has lost my theater money and my dvd money and pretty much anything else. I keep thinking that one day they could get it right. Guess i will go back into hiding again till the announcment comes out.

[KalKai]

Dudes, what is going on? I posted this news hours before anybody else did, I am not hearing that Porter is Superman. I might be wrong but we heard that he was up for The Flash and that Adam Bordy beat him.

Let's hope he's right.

[AgentPat]

Brody is bad enough, but Porter as Superman? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/no3.gif


Yet again... something seems fishy. These sites (AICN, Cinematical, etc) are posting scoops based on anonymous e-mails? Haven't we gone down this path before?

[AgentPat]

Thats the point, my source yesterday, told me that Porter is not in Justice League at all, if anyone is in Texas this weekend hopefully they can corner him at Wizard World. He was up for The Flash and Brody beat him, thats it.Phew!

[triplet]

Let's hope he's right.

I hope so too.

Brody is bad enough, but Porter as Superman? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/no3.gif


:eek:

Yeah, weird choice.

Yet again... something seems fishy. These sites (AICN, Cinematical, etc) are posting scoops based on anonymous e-mails? Haven't we gone down this path before?

Good point.

[Mike22]

Phew!
You said it sister. I knew the WB couldn`t be THAT dumb. Now that we got that out of the way, I`m still hoping for the one and only...
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4798/combat555rz2.png

[AgentPat]

Lets put this to bed folks...

Welling is out, didn't happen, many people tried to no avail, Miller has his own vision for Superman, some people at WB really wanted it, don't know is Welling wanted to do it or not.

And for the Routh fans, like I mentioned before, Brandon was never even asked to audition.

[BH/HHH]

I wish they'd just get out the damned cast list.

I really want Tom as Supeman but Im pretty sure it aint gonna happen, so id rather just know who is going to be playing Superman.

I just dread to think whose gonna play Batman aswell.

[Mike22]

Lets put this to bed folks...

Originally Posted by Sanchez
Welling is out, didn't happen, many people tried to no avail, Miller has his own vision for Superman, some people at WB really wanted it, don't know is Welling wanted to do it or not.

And for the Routh fans, like I mentioned before, Brandon was never even asked to audition.


Ahhh *****.

I can`t help but wonder just what the hell went wrong.http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[phil]

Now that I know the most un superhero like name has been cast as Flash I'm officially not interested in this teen titans movie.

Let's switch this thread about what the money shot of Smallville will look like, no need for JL talk here anymore:cmad:

[Thunder Emperor]

WB has done it again, again and again

[mellyM]

I'm kinda glad, this movie is looking pretty lame given the rest of the cast so far. At least now I don't have to see it.

[AgentPat]

I'm kinda glad, this movie is looking pretty lame given the rest of the cast so far. At least now I don't have to see it.Totally. :up:

But for what it's worth, Porter isn't gonna be Supes:

Scott Porter is not, I repeat NOT playing Superman.

My friend Tony who works for Marvel is enjoying Wizard World Texas. I text messaged him this morning about AICN and CinemaBlends report on Porter. He just got back to me say Scott says, "I didn't even read for Superman." but that he wouldn't comment on other roles.

[Paradoxium]

I thought it was pretty well established that Porter only read for Flash. Maybe he is up for Barry Flash still :confused:

What's all this fuss about him being Superman?

[Mike22]

Totally. :up:

But for what it's worth, Porter isn't gonna be Supes:
I had a feeling about that. He just doesn`t have the superman thing about him. And it would be kinda weird to see him side by side with Common as GL and GL is looking like a real man, and this dude like a short 20 year old kid.

what ever the hell happens, I just hope the superman actor is a good one, oh and the batman actor of course.
If the superman actor isn`t right, there really is no need to see this movie.

[phil]

Totally. :up:

But for what it's worth, Porter isn't gonna be Supes:

How can we be so sure? he's got a gag order, he knows it's a fact the fans knew he tested for something right? Maybe he is Superman and just saying that because he can't awnser the question. Looking at him why wouldn't they choose him, that poor excuse for a studio were ok with a Superman having a kid, a Reeve look-a-like in Brittany Spears underware, Adam Brody as a superhero, Batman with nipples, Batman & Robin air snowboarding, catwomen in her own movie, Nik Cage as Superman, and the list goes on...

[Zorex]

Phew!
I do indeed hope "Phew" is true. I do indeed. Hopefully this isn't another false alarm, and that we DO get the list next week. I mean, time's a-wastin'. If they plan on making this... thing, they'd better have a cast pretty soon.

[AgentPat]

I thought it was pretty well established that Porter only read for Flash. Maybe he is up for Barry Flash still :confused:

What's all this fuss about him being Superman?http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Scoop-Scott-Porter-Is-JLA-s-Superman-6958.html

At this point, I don't care any more. Clearly, Miller has his own vision, which is fine. Sounds familiar. Whatthehellevah. I don't have to see it, and in point of fact, I have no interest in it any more. The cast is what would get me to go, and I'm no fan of Brody or MEW, and I don't know Common or rumored Batman dude from a hole in a wall. Current rumor from Sanchez is that even Duhamel isn't gonna be in the film. :rolleyes:

At least Transformers had 30ft robots. :p

*Maybe* I'll catch JL on DVD. We'll see.

[Mike22]

How can we be so sure? he's got a gag order, he knows it's a fact the fans knew he tested for something right? Maybe he is Superman and just saying that because he can't answer the question. Looking at him why wouldn't they choose him, that poor excuse for a studio were ok with a Superman having a kid, a Reeve look-a-like in Brittany Spears underwear, Adam Brody as a superhero, Batman with nipples, Batman & Robin air snowboarding, catwomen in her own movie, Nik Cage as Superman, and the list goes on...

I don`t really mind Brody. He`s no Reynolds, that`s for sure, but Brody seems like a decent choice. Looks way to young, but he seems like a good choice.

[AgentPat]

I had a feeling about that. He just doesn't have the superman thing about him.LOL! Like that ever stopped them before?

what ever the hell happens, I just hope the superman actor is a good one, oh and the batman actor of course. If the superman actor isn't right, there really is no need to see this movie.Look at the (semi)confirmed casting so far? Write this one off in your head now, Mike. You'll feel better when the official cast IS announced.

[Paradoxium]

I think if Reeve was cast as Superman TODAY, some of you Wellingites would still think he is subpar (compared to Welling). :D

I hope George Miller pulls a left field choice. I don't want any of the people rumored. No Routh, no Welling, no Caviezel, no Porter, no Cavill... I think its better this way. **** compromises, forget about age... just cast the most well rounded actor (in chops and looks).

[TheComicbookKid]

I think if Reeve was cast as Superman TODAY, some of you Wellingites would still think he is subpar (compared to Welling). :D

I hope George Miller pulls a left field choice. I don't want any of the people rumored. No Routh, co Welling, no Caviezel, no Porter, no Cavill... I think its better this way. **** compromises, forget about age... just cast the most well rounded actor (in chops and looks).

Don't go around making resonable statements!:cmad:

[phil]

I don`t really mind Brody. He`s no Reynolds, that`s for sure, but Brody seems like a decent choice. Looks way to young, but he seems like a good choice.

how is a skinny kid a good choice to be a Superhero? Besides that do you remember him in SV? He has the presence of a TV show at very best, this is suppose to be a bigblockbuster Superhero film with all the top notch DC characters:huh:

[phil]

I think if Reeve was cast as Superman TODAY, some of you Wellingites would still think he is subpar (compared to Welling). :D

I hope George Miller pulls a left field choice. I don't want any of the people rumored. No Routh, no Welling, no Caviezel, no Porter, no Cavill... I think its better this way. **** compromises, forget about age... just cast the most well rounded actor (in chops and looks).

If you put the two side by side Welling is a hell of a lot better look for Superman. So maybe that's why you night think that.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Porter isn't Superman.

[Paradoxium]

how is a skinny kid a good choice to be a Superhero? Besides that do you remember him in SV? He has the presence of a TV show at very best, this is suppose to be a bigblockbuster Superhero film with all the top notch DC characters:huh:

*CRACKS*

I can't believe I just read that in a thread called "Tom Welling as Superman. Your killing me right now. :woot: :woot: :woot:

[Serene]

Wow, glad I was working during this latest rollercoaster ride. :)

FWIW, I like Scott Porter. He's a fine actor (at least on FNL) and I wouldn't hate seeing him in this movie. However, I don't see him as Superman. I really thought he was going for Flash or GL - in which case, it seems like he may be completely out of the running already.

I'm wondering... if maybe that 6'5" guy is Supes, and Porter is Batman? Oh, the possibilities. ;)

I like MEW, and Brody can be likeable, so I'm still up for seeing this flick, I guess. My expectations have changed DRAMATICALLY though - this absolutely isn't the JL movie I wanted to see. This sounds like they really are going very young and setting themselves up for sequels.

Still, I'm not going to write it off... yet. My anticipation for it has dropped significantly though.

[AgentPat]

I don`t really mind Brody. He`s no Reynolds, that`s for sure, but Brody seems like a decent choice. Looks way to young, but he seems like a good choice.That's just it. If Brody was the weakest link in the chain, I would have been fine. The chances of them pleasing everybody with all seven protagonists wasn't possible. It's not even a matter of it being slim to none. It's impossible. End of story.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/but.gif

If they could please each viewer with say two out of seven, then they've got something. I'm not talking about "settling" either. I mean PLEASE people with a cast choice. Duhamel as Bats would have pleased me. YMMV. Welling as Superman goes w/o saying, but that's not gonna happen. Everybody else rumored doesn't even rate as a "meh" with me. I don't give a squat about ANY of the actors rumored and likely to end up in this film. Not one.

[Mike22]

LOL! Like that ever stopped them before?

Look at the (semi)confirmed casting so far? Write this one off in your head now, Mike. You'll feel better when the official cast IS announced.
My interests in this movie has sorta been three part.
1) The making of such a movie was going directly against Singers franchise, and hopefully we`d never ever see the cursed sequel.

2) A new superman, which in my mind was welling, and if not him, than a new and better superman than Routh was.

3) Some truly magnificent superhero fights, that were so sorely lacking in SR.
As for now, I only have one to look forward to and that`s seeing some great special effects, and I hope that I can at least get that.

how is a skinny kid a good choice to be a Superhero? Besides that do you remember him in SV? He has the presence of a TV show at very best, this is suppose to be a big blockbuster Superhero film with all the top notch DC characters:huh:

I remember him in smallville, he was pretty decent, but that was season two Phil, I`m guessing he`s aged and matured a lot by now, and as for t he build, I`m sure they`re gonna work his ass off a the gym so I wouldn`t worry to much about that. Besides, flash runs really fast, he doesn`t have to look like a tank, just in decent shape, and I`m sure they`re gonna put some padding to use any way.

[Syncos]

I think if Reeve was cast as Superman TODAY, some of you Wellingites would still think he is subpar.

I certainly would. And it's not comparative to Welling, either. I never really saw Reeve as Superman. I wasn't a huge fan of the Donner movies growing up.

I admire and respect Reeve for everything he did in his life. He may be a super dude, but in my eyes, he's not superman.

Maybe it's a generational thing, who knows.

[Zorex]

*CRACKS*

I can't believe I just read that in a thread called "Tom Welling as Superman. Your killing me right now. :woot: :woot: :woot:
I got a chuckle out of that, too.

[KalKai]

My interests in this movie has sorta been three part.
1) The making of such a movie was going directly against Singers franchise, and hopefully we`d never ever see the cursed sequel.

2) A new superman, which in my mind was welling, and if not him, than a new and better superman than Routh was.

3) Some truly magnificent superhero fights, that were so sorely lacking in SR.
As for now, I only have one to look forward to and that`s seeing some great special effects, and I hope that I can at least get that.



I remember him in smallville, he was pretty decent, but that was season two Phil, I`m guessing he`s aged and matured a lot by now, and as for t he build, I`m sure they`re gonna work his ass off a the gym so I wouldn`t worry to much about that. Besides, flash runs really fast, he doesn`t have to look like a tank, just in decent shape, and I`m sure they`re gonna put some padding to use any way.

That was Season 1.

[AgentPat]

...just cast the most well rounded actor (in chops and looks).Oh please. Even Singer couldn't get that right. And I'm not just talking about the Superman casting.

As to Brody, talk to me again after he's played Flash for seven years and 150 hours of programming. Maybe I'll have a different opinion of him at that time.

[Mike22]

That's just it. If Brody was the weakest link in the chain, I would have been fine. The chances of them pleasing everybody with all seven protagonists wasn't possible. It's not even a matter of it being slim to none. It's impossible. End of story.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/but.gif

If they could please each viewer with say two out of seven, then they've got something. I'm not talking about "settling" either. I mean PLEASE people with a cast choice. Duhamel as Bats would have pleased me. YMMV. Welling as Superman goes w/o saying, but that's not gonna happen. Everybody else rumored doesn't even rate as a "meh" with me. I don't give a squat about ANY of the actors rumored and likely to end up in this film. Not one.

Yeah, I know what you mean Pat. This casting thing hasn`t exactly turned out the way I had imagined either.
Personally I couldn`t give a less crap about who they cast as GL or Martian Manhunter of WW, and at times not even bats of the flash.
The only one that matters is superman, and they royally screwed it up.
I`ve lost all hope that welling might be in this movie. He isn`t, I think it`s time for me to move on.

But like you said, they don`t even have two simple crowd pleasers. They have none. Unless The superman actor is something really really really really out of this world great actor ( which I somehow doubt) I don`t think this movie is gonna be as enjoyable as I had once thought it would be.
And when this movie gets it`s ass handed to it by TF in 2009, then I`d a paid money to see Welling laugh his ass off.

[Mike22]

That was Season 1.
My bad, it was season one after all.

[Syncos]

I`m pretty sure it was season two.

Crush was the episode, and it was season 1 episode 19

[Paradoxium]

I don't think Reeve is perfect either.

But I think Welling lacks one of the most important characteristics to make him Superman... authority. He has very little of it or isn't very good at conveying it. Maybe its because he is forced to portray a whiny and incompetent young Superman... but in the few episodes I watched, I just didn't see it in him. Even when he tries, I couldn't take it seriously.

If you transpose his personality/mind out of his body, he comes as across as a less-awkward-Peter-Parker archtype than a teen/young adult that at least has his bearings together. Not all teen/young adults have such poor self esteem and angst. I suppose I could buy into that for the first few seasons, but based on what I have seen, they have been milking that same schtick still. Although that is probably more the writer's fault.

[Paradoxium]

Oh please. Even Singer couldn't get that right. And I'm not just talking about the Superman casting.

As to Brody, talk to me again after he's played Flash for seven years and 150 hours of programming. Maybe I'll have a different opinion of him at that time.
Who said anything about me liking Singer or thinking he got anything right? :D

[Syncos]

I don't think Reeve is perfect either.

But I think Welling lacks one of the most important characteristics to make him Superman... authority. He has very little of it or isn't very good at conveying it. Maybe its because he is forced to portray a whiny and incompetent young Superman... but in the few episodes I watched, I just didn't see it in him. Even when he tries, I couldn't take it seriously.

If you transpose his personality/mind out of his body, he comes as across as a less-awkward-Peter-Parker archtype than a teen/young adult that at least has his bearings together. Not all teen/young adults have such poor self esteem and angst. I suppose I could buy into that for the first few seasons, but based on what I have seen, they have been milking that same schtick still. Although that is probably more the writer's fault.

There's your problem. Watch "Justice", or "Rage", or "Run". God, just about any episode that involves another DC character. or even 90% of episodes from season 6 or the new season. He's got the authority. Season 6 he had it in spades.

[AgentPat]

...Although that is probably more the writer's fault.Uhmm... ya think?

That is how the character is written. Welling out of character apparently has quite a bit of "authority" on the set. Read some interviews with the cast, guest stars and crew; they rely on him for opinion and advice all the time. That's somebody with a perceived authority, and perception is what it's all about. Welling doesn't have superpowers behind him to garner the kind of appreciation I've seen written about him by the people he *works* with. Fans go w/o saying.

[Paradoxium]

Seen Justice and Run.

Yes he tries to pull the mentorship and comradeship off. The script does call for it. He does try. But he is like someone trying to swim, but ends up sputtering to the other end of the pool. Action is important but whether he was effective is another story. He has little of it and/or doesn't pull it off effectively.

Authority has to be almost instinctual. Someone with authority is someone you almost instinctively trust (right or wrong). A person of authority can step into the room you almost recognize the presence. You know that person knows what he wants and can get it for himself or out of others. This characteristic is not defined by they look, so much as a combination of general body language and words.

[phil]

*CRACKS*

I can't believe I just read that in a thread called "Tom Welling as Superman. Your killing me right now. :woot: :woot: :woot:

Why? You don't think Welling doesn't have a bigblockbuster presence for The Man of Steel? So what if he's on TV he has to start somewhere right? He's into his 7th year on his first regular job, how long did the other guys last on their first TV job?

[Paradoxium]

Uhmm... ya think?

That is how the character is written. Welling out of character apparently has quite a bit of "authority" on the set. Read some interviews with the cast, guest stars and crew; they rely on him for opinion and advice all the time. That's somebody with a perceived authority, and perception is what it's all about. Welling doesn't have superpowers behind him to garner the kind of appreciation I've seen written about him by the people he *works* with. Fans go w/o saying.I don't care for what other people say. But I can understand how people can fall for this line of thought. I believe in seduction there is this saying (paraphrase), "if you want to seduce a girl, seduce her sister first".

If he is to convince detractors (honestly, does he care to?), he should put himself in roles with authority. Let action speak for itself. If he is not great at all, improve it. He has all the exposure and opportunities in the world, but he hasn't made great use of it. He is pigeonholing himself. But hey, it's his own life and career, and I am not going to tell him how he should define himself. But I can tell how he has defining himself right now. Maybe he can convey authority, but he isn't shown it (or cultivated that yet).

[Syncos]

I don't care for what other people say. But I can understand how people can fall for this line of thought. I believe in seduction there is this saying (paraphrase), "if you want to seduce a girl, seduce her sister first".

If he is to convince detractors (honestly, does he care to?), he should put himself in roles with authority. Let action speak for itself. If he is not great at all, improve it. He has all the exposure and opportunities in the world, but he hasn't made great use of it. He is pigeonholing himself. But hey, it's his own life and career, and I am not going to tell him how he should define himself. But I can tell how he has defining himself right now. Maybe he can convey authority, but he isn't shown it (or cultivated that yet).

To a person who's watched a few scattered episodes of a tv show. It's not fair to judge his performance on a few episodes of Smallville. The same way it wouldn't be fair to judge him now if for example you just watched season one, and didn't like it.

[Thunder Emperor]

I see your argument para. I think writing plays a lot to what welling has to do. if you look at it at what it is smallville not superman. He has to portray his characterization as something of " i see he will be great in the future'". also if you watched any of the eps with him been out of character. That is when welling pulls his best and show the auorthiy he can convey.

[AgentPat]

Para, honestly, what's your point? What's with the seducing a woman's sister comment? Strawman much?

You can "explain" your opposition to Welling's casting as Superman however you want, but if you don't see him as the character, nobody here is gonna change your mind. And quite frankly, none of us have the time nor motivation to even try. You don't like him. Fair enough. Others do. Lots and LOTS of people do. And from a studio's POV, it really shouldn't matter why he's liked or why year after year, he's advocated for the role. The point should be that he just IS.

Also, it's completely POINTLESS to argue things like typecasting and pigeonholing. We as fans have no CLUE what drives Welling's decisions. None! Speculation towards that end as evidence for why certain decisions have been made is useless. We've heard all sorts of comments from various people, both rumored and otherwise, but the fact remains that Welling, his handlers, and the studio have NEVER said he turned them down. Ever. Fans have a hard enough time finding anybody that will comment on the record that he's even been offered the role.

[musclesforsupes]

Im sick of this "director vision" sh**, if the WB would listen to its FANS then they would have a hit, hopefully this movie bombs sooo bad! Anyone got a WB address to write and complain?

[Paradoxium]

The seduction quote means people have this tendency to judge X by how others judge X. You citing how crew people (Y and Z) thought about X has very little substance. A well known seduction tactic is to disarm the friends of a girl to gain her trust, and make her more vulnerable for the killing.

For me its simple, I'll be a believer when I see it. Action is more important, and I never said anything about getting into their head. More of what his actions will lead to. I just threw in my same two cents but decided to elaborate more on it, in a more mature manner instead of "omg welling is teh suck!"

[Paradoxium]

Im sick of this "director vision" sh**, if the WB would listen to its FANS then they would have a hit, hopefully this movie bombs sooo bad! Anyone got a WB address to write and complain?

My biggest point, the point that infuriates me the most and watching people make this argument all the time is: how Welling is so popular.

I can buy how you guys thinking he looks like Superman, or even act the role. Fine. Fine. Fine. Not arguing with you anymore on this. Your entitled to your sucky opinion :D

But jesus jumping jack ****ing christ, the popularity and TV show ratings argument drives me through the roof. Who gives a ****ing about his popularity, if the story is good and the actor fits the story best, creatively that is the better approach. Even financially, you have less hoola hops to jump through, in terms of cost and accommodation.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Im sick of this "director vision" sh**, if the WB would listen to its FANS then they would have a hit, hopefully this movie bombs sooo bad! Anyone got a WB address to write and complain?

It never has & never will be about the fans. The fans mean ****. The fan boys are not the group that guarantees money. Look at X-Men: The Last Stand. Case closed & the sooner you accept that the better it will be for you.

[musclesforsupes]

well general public doesnt guarantee money either. (see SR)

[Cmill216]

The Welling bashing in the JL section makes Cmill sad. :(

Someone hold me.

[triplet]

The Welling bashing in the JL section makes Cmill sad. :(

Someone hold me.

*hugs*

[musclesforsupes]

note to self "I hate the wb"

[OobeDoobBenubi]

well general public doesnt guarantee money either. (see SR)

Its a better guarantee then a bunch of fans that do nothing but whine on a message board all day.

[avidreader]

The Welling bashing in the JL section makes Cmill sad. :(

Someone hold me.

Awwww.... *big hugs*:heart: :heart:

I'd come over and support you, but I just cant cope with the bashing.

To me it comes across as envy so lets tear the guy down.

Why dont you post the results of this Poll over there.

http://www.cinematical.com/2007/11/16/gallery-and-poll-who-are-the-hottest-men-alive/

[musclesforsupes]

i guess your joining us in that whining huh :(

[Syncos]

It never has & never will be about the fans. The fans mean ****. The fan boys are not the group that guarantees money. Look at X-Men: The Last Stand. Case closed & the sooner you accept that the better it will be for you.

Yah, but what studios -don't- seem to understand, is that the fanboys are the people who will be going to see the movie 7 and 8 times in theaters, then buying the ridiculous special edition collectors special collectible edition box, tin. you know, the one that costs like 300$ and smells like Taiwan. :whatever:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I just cant cope with the bashing.

I honestly dont see why people just say thank god & move on to something else to bash about. There are bigger thing to bash then Tom Welling. Complaining about the same thing every day is silly.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Yah, but what studios -don't- seem to understand, is that the fanboys are the people who will be going to see the movie 7 and 8 times in theaters, then buying the ridiculous special edition collectors special collectible edition box, tin. you know, the one that costs like 300$ and smells like Taiwan. :whatever:

They seem to be doing okay so far without those types which is why they dont care.

[Syncos]

They seem to be doing okay so far without those types which is why they dont care.

I can't and wont speak for everyone. but in my experience. Not only did I not -buy- X3, or Spider-Man 3, or one of those other terrible letdowns, but I didn't even let them grace my computer screen. I saw Spider-Man 2 in theaters like 7 times. That's 60$ they didn't get from me with Spider-Man 3. I'm sure I'm not the -only- one. It might not put a sizable difference in their profits, but it's certainly a noticeable one.

[Docker2.0]

I can't and wont speak for everyone. but in my experience. Not only did I not -buy- X3, or Spider-Man 3, or one of those other terrible letdowns, but I didn't even let them grace my computer screen. I saw Spider-Man 2 in theaters like 7 times. That's 60$ they didn't get from me with Spider-Man 3. I'm sure I'm not the -only- one. It might not put a sizable difference in their profits, but it's certainly a noticeable one.

If you didn't see X3 or SM3, how do you know if they were letdowns? :huh:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I can't and wont speak for everyone. but in my experience. Not only did I not -buy- X3, or Spider-Man 3, or one of those other terrible letdowns, but I didn't even let them grace my computer screen. I saw Spider-Man 2 in theaters like 7 times. That's 60$ they didn't get from me with Spider-Man 3. I'm sure I'm not the -only- one. It might not put a sizable difference in their profits, but it's certainly a noticeable one.

Either way if the studios cared about fan boys (which they dont) we would know. Your example obviously does not mean much to them.

[triplet]

Most fans not going to see SR 8 or 9 times (the few rare exceptions aside) is what cost that film it's Spider-Man sized box office.

Repeat viewers are what gets the numbers up big-time. Getting the butts in the seats to begin with is also important.

Some people may not like Tom (and can be very vocal about it) but no one can deny that he's got a rabid and very devoted following. They put more butts in the seats for The Fog than that train wreck deserved.

I can't imagine what he could do for a major motion picture. It's a missed opportunity for WB.

[Syncos]

If you didn't see X3 or SM3, how do you know if they were letdowns? :huh:

I saw each of them once in theater. Which is why the studio was only loosing $60 off of me, instead of $70.

[Docker2.0]

I saw each of them once in theater. Which is why the studio was only loosing $60 off of me, instead of $70.

ah ok. I understand. I don't think I'm going to see the JLA film. I'm not feeling the script nor the cast THUS far. It may change but the fact that those bas+ards through out fake info to lead the fans on for this long is bs. I didn't see SR in theaters, only on bootleg just cuase I was curious about the movie and couldn't fight the geek in me to wait for dvd so I'll do the same here. Damn WB!! :cmad:

[KalKai]

Awwww.... *big hugs*:heart: :heart:

I'd come over and support you, but I just cant cope with the bashing.

To me it comes across as envy so lets tear the guy down.

Why dont you post the results of this Poll over there.

http://www.cinematical.com/2007/11/16/gallery-and-poll-who-are-the-hottest-men-alive/

That's 1 thing, but I think some of you are giving too much attention & importance to a HANDFUL of people who's opinion doesn't even matter 1 single bit in the grand scale of things. Those handful of people like to repeat themselves continuously to make themselves feel at ease with others who are exactly like them.

[KalKai]

You can "explain" your opposition to Welling's casting as Superman however you want, but if you don't see him as the character, nobody here is gonna change your mind. And quite frankly, none of us have the time nor motivation to even try. You don't like him. Fair enough. Others do. Lots and LOTS of people do. And from a studio's POV, it really shouldn't matter why he's liked or why year after year, he's advocated for the role. The point should be that he just IS.

Words of wisdom.

[BH/HHH]

Who actually said Welling is out I dont see any official news on the superherohype main page or any other websites?

[Serene]

By coincidence, my daughter (teen demo) is watching some movie right now on TV with Adam Brody in it. I just asked her what she thought of him - "He's cute." Then I told her that he might be Flash in the new JL movie - "Really? He's too squirrelly for that."

LOL! :D

[Cmill216]

*hugs*

Awwww.... *big hugs*:heart: :heart:

Thanks, you two. :)

It makes me feel a little bit better. I have a hard time stomaching the constant "at least he's better than Welling remarks" when any random actor from any random show is mentioned as a candidate. Unfortunately, I have to keep my personal bias in my back pocket when going through those threads.

*super sigh*

[Whiteflag]

Quote:
Originally Posted by AgentPat http://forums.superherohype.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=13267143#post13267143)
You can "explain" your opposition to Welling's casting as Superman however you want, but if you don't see him as the character, nobody here is gonna change your mind. And quite frankly, none of us have the time nor motivation to even try. You don't like him. Fair enough. Others do. Lots and LOTS of people do. And from a studio's POV, it really shouldn't matter why he's liked or why year after year, he's advocated for the role. The point should be that he just IS.


Words of wisdom.

:up: :up:

[phil]

By coincidence, my daughter (teen demo) is watching some movie right now on TV with Adam Brody in it. I just asked her what she thought of him - "He's cute." Then I told her that he might be Flash in the new JL movie - "Really? He's too squirrelly for that."

LOL! :D

lol, I googled imaged him earlier, not even remotely close to a superhero! the only thing he can take down is Principal Kuan. Hopefully he has a small part because isn't the whole movie go back to the first Flash after the first scene? Maybe I'm wrong but there is two Flashes right and not two Gl's?

[The Incredible Hulk]

Thanks, you two. :)

It makes me feel a little bit better. I have a hard time stomaching the constant "at least he's better than Welling remarks" when any random actor from any random show is mentioned as a candidate. Unfortunately, I have to keep my personal bias in my back pocket when going through those threads.

*super sigh*

I wouldnt worry about the handful of dopes over yonder. The empty cans tend to rattle the most, and they're precisely the reason that any time a new superhero movie comes out, that the reasonable fans tend to go and set up their own websites: Hulkmovie.com, BT, etc. They're the reason the Hype forums have such a crap reputation elsewhere on the web.

[Serene]

It makes me feel a little bit better. I have a hard time stomaching the constant "at least he's better than Welling remarks" when any random actor from any random show is mentioned as a candidate.

Silly fanboys. They probably smell funny too. ;)

You can always come here and get a breath of fresh air, Cmill. :heart:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

You know if we dont get Welling as Supes in a movie why not do a new Video Game franchise based off of Smallvilles story. Imagine a Justice League game trilogy using Smallvilles version :woot: They can do so much with a Video Game then they ever will with a TV Show or Movie.