Tom Welling as Superman [Archive] - Page 29

AgentPat

11-17-2007, 09:04 PM

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/poke.gif

Yeah, yeah, one of these days I'll learn. Today's not that day. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/sigh.gif

My biggest point, the point that infuriates me the most and watching people make this argument all the time is: how Welling is so popular.Then your head may just explode because you're apparently being angered by other people's joy. I can't help you there. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/shrug.gif

I can buy how you guys thinking he looks like Superman, or even act the role. Fine. Fine. Fine. Not arguing with you anymore on this. Your entitled to your sucky opinionAh yes, the bad taste argument. :rolleyes:

Next?

But jesus jumping jack ****ing christ, the popularity and TV show ratings argument drives me through the roof. Who gives a ****ing about his popularity,Is that a rhetorical? Because anything that's popular must have "value" to somebody, even if it's just intrinsic, no? From a studio POV, Welling is probably "worth" about $100K per episode plus health and dental, and maybe a 401k or comparable retirement contribution. But his value to them? Oh gosh, I have no idea. I'm sure it's in the millions.

For me, he's just a wonderful source of entertainment. I watch SV every week because I enjoy watching him and his character, I buy the DVD's, and I've gone to the theater and bought DVD of films that I NEVER would have saw/bought if he wasn't in 'em. It's what fans do. Get enough people interested in the same thing and that thing becomes popular by default. If you're in the business of supplying demand, a profit can be made. What's that mean to me personally? Pfft. Other than being given a gift that makes me happy, nothing at all.

if the story is good and the actor fits the story best, creatively that is the better approach.To people that don't give a crap, sure. But fans here and elsewhere DO care who's cast. Look around Para. To put a finer point on it, the single most important thing to Superman fans is the actor who's cast in the role.

Even financially, you have less hula hops to jump through, in terms of cost and accommodation.Now I'm not following you, but I'm not sure I want to. You jump back and forth in your arguments between Welling's (non)talent, desire for the role, and how you can't understand why he's even popular, to arguing (I guess?) it's easier and more cost effective to cast somebody else.

Huh?

Pick one dude. Fan devotion - which IS there and emotionally charged making him a fan favorite - or the cold financial pros and cons of why Warners should or shouldn't cast him in a film. Because I can argue this topic from both points of view (not that I particular want to since I've done it ad nauseam), but logic has no place in explaining an entertainment choice, just like passion and talent has no place in a P&L statement.

PS: LOL@Iris and her "don't hold your breath about the film happening." That just kills me, 'cause I stopped "holding my breath" on this happening a month ago. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smirk.gif

The Incredible Hulk

11-17-2007, 10:10 PM

Some Iris updates

Well, now that part of the list is out, I'll say that "Superman" is apparently being played by someone of Hispanic/Latino descent. Relatively no-name actor who's not very tall.

It's not Eddie Cibrian, I dont know who started that?

AgentPat

11-17-2007, 10:17 PM

Who the heck is she referring to? That post of hers is comical.

Gmanofsteel

11-17-2007, 11:04 PM

Wow, glad I was working during this latest rollercoaster ride. :)

FWIW, I like Scott Porter. He's a fine actor (at least on FNL) and I wouldn't hate seeing him in this movie. However, I don't see him as Superman. I really thought he was going for Flash or GL - in which case, it seems like he may be completely out of the running already.

I'm wondering... if maybe that 6'5" guy is Supes, and Porter is Batman? Oh, the possibilities. ;)

I like MEW, and Brody can be likeable, so I'm still up for seeing this flick, I guess. My expectations have changed DRAMATICALLY though - this absolutely isn't the JL movie I wanted to see. This sounds like they really are going very young and setting themselves up for sequels.

Still, I'm not going to write it off... yet. My anticipation for it has dropped significantly though.

I like Porter too, I'm bummed he won't be the flash :(
The Welling bashing in the JL section makes Cmill sad. :(

Someone hold me.

Its full of arrogant jerks, so I avoid it mostly.

Im sick of this "director vision" sh**, if the WB would listen to its FANS then they would have a hit, hopefully this movie bombs sooo bad! Anyone got a WB address to write and complain?

I agree, its over rated completely over rated.

Lighthouse

11-17-2007, 11:24 PM

I don't mean to sound like a superficial ass, but every time I look at Scott Porter, I just can't get over his neck. I'm sure he's a great actor and a nice guys, but his neck is really distracting.

AgentPat

11-18-2007, 11:22 PM

:rolleyes:

Hollywood Reporter
Nov 19, 2007

'Angels' wings clipped
Columbia delays pic as strike takes a toll
By Borys Kit and Leslie Simmons

STRIKE ZONE: LATEST NEWS AND UPDATES

Sony has postponed production on Columbia Pictures' "Angels and Demons," the latest major film project to be derailed by the writers strike.

Tom Hanks is set to reprise his role as symbologist Robert Langdon in "Angels," a prequel to "The Da Vinci Code," with Ron Howard again directing. The studio said Friday the screenplay by Akiva Goldsman, an adaptation of the Dan Brown novel, was not ready to go before the cameras.

But "Angels" isn't alone. Several other projects are in limbo and might be heading towards postponement, even with the WGA and the Alliance of Motion Picture & Television Producers returning to the table next week. The shifting schedules are causing some directors to leave projects and others to pick up proejct as the labor drama plays out.

Columbia's "Edwin A. Salt," a spy thriller with Tom Cruise attached, has been pushed back due to director Terry George is stepping off the project. Michael Mann wants to pick up the directing reins but only will step in if there's a rewrite, which can't be done while the strike is on.

"It's getting dicey for everybody," said one producer. "There are a lot of projects on the bubble."

At Warner Bros., "Justice League of America" finds itself without a shooting script and has options expiring on potential actors who recently were screen tested. As a result, it might have to postpone production.

The strike also could affect "Bruno," Sacha Baron Cohen's follow-up to "Borat." Although a working script has been completed, "Bruno" will be filmed in the same style as "Borat," with writers constantly feeding the comedian fresh material as he interacts with real people in real situations.

A spokesman for Baron Cohen said the movie had not begun shooting.

One producer said he would step in and fix his movie's script himself if the situation doesn't get resolved soon.

"If the writers are still on strike, and worse come to worse, I will write and fix it. Hopefully it won't come to that, but my livelihood depends on it," the producer said.

There is some good news for actors, directors, producers and crew members. New Line's "Four Christmases," which had been in script trouble during the weeks before the strike, has found itself on surer footing and is now ready for production. In addition, Paramount is mounting a full-on attack with "G.I. Joe," and Disney is moving ahead with "Shopaholic," the Adam Sandler pic "Bedtime Stores" and "Witch Mountain."

In postponing "Angels," Sony spokesman Steve Elzer said that "while the filmmakers and the studio feel the screenplay is very strong, we do not believe it is the fully realized production draft required of this ambitious project." He added, "We do not expect any other film on our 2008 slate to be affected."

"Angels" had been scheduled to begin production early next year and was slated for release Dec. 19, 2008. While no new start date has been set, its release date has been moved to May 15, 2009, a week before Fox has scheduled the release of James Cameron's 3-D feature "Avatar."

The production had secured permits to shoot in and around Rome, though it had been denied access to the Vatican, where much of the story takes place. It had booked a studio set for the Vatican scenes.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i831387c49a06d964b5b11f3b14a5a5fd

AgentPat

11-19-2007, 02:00 AM

Mig-El

11-19-2007, 02:37 AM

mellyM

11-19-2007, 05:49 AM

smsvmos

11-19-2007, 06:05 AM

Superman_

11-19-2007, 06:22 AM

Either way the cast that SHH and IESB have looks like we'll be having the Teen Titans. Really the fans just need to adjust and understand we may not get the casting we want. I for one am pissed off at both list. I feel if they are not going to use Routh, Bale or Welling then at least give the fans someone they can be happy about and at least most can agree on (much like how Routh was for SR) as a second option. Because these casting list are just horrible all around not just in the Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman role but the Flash is a poor choice as well as Aquaman. The only person who works so far is GL. This is why I say the WB should just finish up their Superman/Batman solo movies as well as start work on Wonder Woman and the Hal Jordan GL and Flash movies and revisit this movie about 5 to 8 years from now after you've done the solo movies. Thats why I respect Marvel more with their approach to Avengers (if it happens).

OobeDoobBenubi

11-19-2007, 07:19 AM

At this point they are better letting Nolan & Singer finish off their movies & then just get both of them for Justice League. The script they want to use was written in mind for Bale & Routh anyway. They are idiots :whatever:

The Incredible Hulk

11-19-2007, 08:02 AM

Kalleo

11-19-2007, 08:14 AM

I hate to say it too I would much rather have Routh continue as Supes than the guy listed above. What the heck is the WB thinking?

musclesforsupes

11-19-2007, 08:52 AM

Supermanhomepage.com is reporting the movie is 90 min long only!

God this movie is turning out bad. I am starting to be glad Welling wont be in it.

musclesforsupes

11-19-2007, 08:52 AM

Maybe he will be used in the Superman movie reboot instead of JLA

Cmill216

11-19-2007, 09:02 AM

Supermanhomepage.com is reporting the movie is 90 min long only!

A load of BS. They haven't even begun filming. No one knows how long it will be until you actually have footage to look at.

OobeDoobBenubi

11-19-2007, 09:20 AM

God help us all

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=13281633&postcount=4224

We wouldn't just throw something up for the hell of it. This is a good source. But still, nothing's confirmed until the actors sign the dotted line and until production actually gets started.

triplet

11-19-2007, 09:39 AM

A load of BS. They haven't even begun filming. No one knows how long it will be until you actually have footage to look at.

The script may be 90 pages but action sequences take up more time than it requires to explain them (one minute per page, roughly, for movie scripts).

I seriously doubt they have a set run length even before the film is shot, they maybe shooting for 90 minutes (the shorter the movie the more times they can show the film in a day) but I'm not sure a specific run time would be mandated.

However, SR was so long (wasn't it over 2 1/2 hours?) maybe they want this movie to be shorter. Some people won't see movies over 2 hours.

Strange but I actually know a few people like that. Action films are helped if they're shorter...

BenReilly

11-19-2007, 09:40 AM

words cannot describe how awful and underwhelming this cast sounds. What happened to all the parts going to "known actors?"

I'm sure that was the plan early on. I mean, they did offer Wonder Woman to Jessica Biel and she turned them down. Makes you wonder who else was approached for the other roles.

It saddens me though, that Marvel has the juice in Hollywood to land amazing actors, the likes of Robert Downey Jr. and Edward Norton for their films and this is the best WB could come up with for their crown jewel superhero film.

OobeDoobBenubi

11-19-2007, 10:07 AM

Infamous_Emijayne wrote:
Just to set things straight....

1. Justice League DOES have a shooting script. It has for quite some time. WB has also hired writers as "Production Consultants" to assist with any tweaks needed during filming, but most will be handled by Miller himself. Not to mention, as a member of of WGA East and after talking to some of the higher-ups as well as friends on the other side, the scheduled round of negotiations after Thanksgiving may very well bring a quick end to the strike.

2. The Hollywood Reporter is re-hashing old news from several articles into one, making it seem like they just got new scoops.

3. D.J. Cotrona was up for Batman, NOT for Superman. Was he cast?? Don't know.

4. The deadline was Nov 18th for the actors/actresses to hear if they got the part. The cast had already been chosen, but notifications had to be made by yesterday. The "official" announcement should be made (or leak out) as early as this afternoon.

By the way, #4 info came directly from Scott Porter at Wizard World Texas.

Superman_

11-19-2007, 10:11 AM

At this point I don't even care. I am not happy with either cast so far and I am not happy with the story they have planned. I will give it a chance because I am a Superman fan first and foremost but I am not happy with it.

AgentPat

11-19-2007, 10:40 AM

It saddens me though, that Marvel has the juice in Hollywood to land amazing actors, the likes of Robert Downey Jr. and Edward Norton for their films and this is the best WB could come up with for their crown jewel superhero film.Well said!

They had Jessica Biel at one point for cripes sake. Further rumors suggested Welling would be Superman and Gosling or Duhamel would be Batman.

*crack* [home run] *applause*

The hell? :csad:

But noooooooooo! Look at some of the names on that list.

Cotrona has a dark complexion, appears to have brown eyes, is 5'9 and looks to be about a buck fifty soaking wet. I'll stop there. This isn't just silly casting. It's LUDICROUS.

Hammer as Batman? Jeeze, I can't even see THAT if I squint. Plus he's eight inches taller than "Superman." Add the body armor and cowl and he'll be Gort to Cotrona's Klaatu. The DP is gonna have his work cut out for him.

Gale as WW? Yeah, okay. She's tall and physically looks the part better than Winstead, but is that the best they can do? Really?

I liked Cabrera when I used to watch Heroes, but as Aquaman? Say what?!! And to think people laughed at this guy:

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1228/aqua49qf.jpg

:rolleyes:

And Flash. Y'know, I'm not sure what's worse - Yelchin or Brody. They let Reynolds go for THESE actors? Are you KIDDING me? I can see Brody if they're trying to pull in the OC crowd, but neither actor strikes me as somebody who could carry a spin-off film.

...then again, they aren't going for that, are they?

So wait! Remind me again what the purpose of producing a Justice League film is for? I'm losing track.

Second question: When was the last time a rumored casting leak for this film actually had positive press on mainstream newsites?

Yeah, that's what I thought. Okay, moving on... :whatever:

Superman_

11-19-2007, 10:48 AM

Thats because they are not meant to carry the Spin-off movies. They are meant for the Justice League only and then they will have a different cast should there be solo movies. Which is why I say the WB is messing things up. If you are to keep Routh as Superman, Bale as Batman, Hal Jordan for GL and a different Wally and Wonder Woman altogether then the point of Justice League is almost kind of pointless. Because the people you see in the movie and the way they are written will be completely different for their solo movies. What they should have done was wait till Nolan and Singer were done and then go from there with either a restart (in the form of JL) or just continue from what they did (in the form of JL) or just get Routh and Bale to do the team-up movie that both Routh and Bale wanted to do and from there do Justice League.

ZIPBAGS

11-19-2007, 10:54 AM

You know you have a bad cast when the anti-Welling/Smallville posters want the Smallville Justice League cast more. :)

OobeDoobBenubi

11-19-2007, 10:55 AM

You know you have a bad cast when the anti-Welling/Smallville posters want the Smallville Justice League cast more. :)

Nah you know you have a bad cast when Superman Returns haters would rather see a Superman Returns sequel then this one :wow:

Superman_

11-19-2007, 11:03 AM

I am not an anti-Welling/SV poster but I would prefer the SV Justice League with Black Canary thrown in there for the female mix compared to this League. I was not a big fan of their League but it is at least better this one and has better plot points then from what I am hearing about this movie.

triplet

11-19-2007, 11:05 AM

I'm sure that was the plan early on. I mean, they did offer Wonder Woman to Jessica Biel and she turned them down. Makes you wonder who else was approached for the other roles.

It saddens me though, that Marvel has the juice in Hollywood to land amazing actors, the likes of Robert Downey Jr. and Edward Norton for their films and this is the best WB could come up with for their crown jewel superhero film.

Quoted for Truth.

:up:

Makes you wonder what kind of lame ass script they really have. Most better actors have a good eye for knowing when a story's total crapfest.

You get the good actors by having a good script, they build off one another. They go hand in hand.

OobeDoobBenubi

11-19-2007, 11:07 AM

At least we now have a movie that is for the most part uniting haters & lovers of any Superman fan group.

The Incredible Hulk

11-19-2007, 12:01 PM

Second question: When was the last time a rumored casting leak for this film actually had positive press on mainstream newsites?

Yeah, that's what I thought. Okay, moving on... :whatever:

August 24, 2007 :)

AgentPat

11-19-2007, 12:24 PM

August 24, 2007 :)Yeah. That's my point. It wasn't just the last time, it was the only time. There were some griping fanboys - aren't there always? - but there was a very favorable reaction for the most part among general news and entertainment sites.

But like I said... whatever. The only thing this film appears to have going for it is its high-end production value, 'cause it aint the cast, that's for damn sure. Warner execs like to tout the oh-so-amazing script when shilling the film, but would "Mr. & Mrs. Smith" have done as well led by Adam Brody? C'mon. Cast him *after* actors like Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie and then maybe you might have something.

Oh wait...

Bruce_Wayne29

11-19-2007, 01:01 PM

At this point I'm actually praying this is the cast of the upcoming Teen Titans movie (that was greenlighted by Warner before JLA and still has no start date or a script as far as we know) that they're producing.
It would make alot more sense.
I'm still praying that somehow this is all smoke and mirrors, they can't be THIS dumb ! Or at least announce that Tom is doing the reboot. If not this could be the end of the Superman/JLA/DC comics movie franchise.

Prison Mike

11-19-2007, 01:01 PM

Very disappointed with the casting. I was hoping Cotrona for Batman, NOT Superman. Who the hell is this Hammer dude?

Migu-EL

11-19-2007, 01:51 PM

Very disappointed with the casting. I was hoping Cotrona for Batman, NOT Superman. Who the hell is this Hammer dude?

http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/.%2F2006%2F01%20January%2F26%2Fpictures%2F10A%20(h ammer).jpg

OobeDoobBenubi

11-19-2007, 02:08 PM

Scott Porter on The Justice League & Superman

The Continuum: So what can you say about these reports about you being cast as Superman in Justice League?

Porter: I haven't been contacted. When I tested, I tested for the role of The Flash, which I lost to Adam Brody. At this point, Superman is purely rumor and speculation as far as I'm concerned, although I do want to buy a Superman shirt today and wear it to mess with people:

The Continuum: You auditioned for The Flash?

Porter: What happened with George Miller (Justice League's director), there were about 32 of us, and he just said, "We're having a test." I don't know if he had a specific role until we got there. None of us knew the specific role until we got there. The Flash was written next to my name when I was there, so that's what I was under the assumption I was auditioning for, although they did say that it was kind of a blanket test. There was one scene and everybody did the same scene, so we could have been auditioning for any role.

The Continuum: If this was true, you'd probably hear by tomorrow?

Porter: If this is true, I'd probably be in Mexico tomorrow wondering how I got here. The extent of the options, everybody had to sign a test deal, a holding contract, and they have an exclusive option on a lot of us. And they've asked to extend them, so I'm expecting the actual official announcement to come out sometime this week, but you can't really hold me to that because I'm not Warner Bros. Who knows when they're going to make the announcement?

The Continuum: Would you want to play Superman?

Porter: That's a lot of pressure. I'm 6-foot on a good day, and I'm a buck-eighty after breakfast soaking wet. So it would take some work, but who wouldn't love the opportunity? It would be a lot of pressure.

The Continuum: They made James Marsden look pretty tall in X-Men.

Porter: As Cyclops? Yeah, Hollywood has a way of even making Tom Cruise look like a giant, so I'm sure I could handle it.

The Continuum: You have not read a script or part of it?

Porter: No, no. No one's seen a script. The scenes we auditoned with were out of like drama books. They had nothing to do with the actual movie. All those things you've seen on the Internet about what the script's about, all those 14 leaked pages, I can't confirm any of it.

The Continuum: What was your impression of George Miller?

Porter: He's great. He's not your typical director. He's very conversational in the way he speaks to the actors. He went so many different directions with this one scene that he was really putting us to the test. He was the nicest, sweetest man. I ran into him at the restaurant at the hotel before we tested, and he recognized everybody before we walked into the room. He didn't need a sheet of paper to tell who everybody was. It was a pretty amazing experience. Any time you have a chance to get in a room with an Oscar-winning director who discovered Mel Gibson and Nicole Kidman, that time of opportunity is something that you look for everyday.

The Continuum: What's your take on Superman?

Porter: I'm not even thinking about it right now. It's all rumor and speculation. Yesterday, I didn't even know. And a copy of Action Comics was slammed down in front of me. He's like, "Go ahead and sign it." And I'm like, "Why do you want me to sign this?" And he winks at me and he goes, "You can tell me. And I know." And I'm, "You know what?" And he goes, "You're Superman!" I'm like, "What are you talking about?

So he said to check The Internet. So I go on my little Blackberry. "This is ridiculous!"

But, really, I expect the major announcements to come out this week. And if were to be Superman, I would be speechless. I'd get right to work.

The Continuum: This is looming as an important movie. These are the heaviest hitters.

Porter: The idea of this movie actually coming to life is something nobody thought could happen. The same thing with Marvel and the Avengers movie. I'd love to see an Avengers movie with Iron Man and Captain America and Hawkeye, who I would love to play. A lot of people didn't think it could ever happen with a cast that big and that many powers and that many effects. The budget's going to be a huge.

That can't happen, can it? But if Justice League does well, you'll see the Teen Titans, you'll see the Avengers. X-Men did well, but it was very small core of lesser-known characters besides Wolverine.

The Continuum: There's a challenge with every Justice League character.

Porter: Justice League is huge. In order to do Martian Manhunter correctly, how many effects do you need to use, just solely on him? To do those big Superman fights like in the third Matrix movie, just to do that is going to be a huge effects budget.

And, then of course, you have to find actors to play these most iconic characters of all time. Who plays Wonder Woman? Who plays Superman? Who plays Batman? Can you live up to the actors who are currently doing it? It's daunting, but I'm sure we all welcome the challenge.

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0711/18/scottporter.htm

Its nice to see he has a sense of humor about all of this when he said he wants to buy a Superman shirt just to be able to mess with people

triplet

11-19-2007, 02:13 PM

http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/.%2F2006%2F01%20January%2F26%2Fpictures%2F10A%20(h ammer).jpg

LOL!

:D

Too funny... the casting is about that ridiculous.

*sigh*

:(

I wanted to like this movie, too bad.

Superman_

11-19-2007, 02:30 PM

LOL!

:D

Too funny... the casting is about that ridiculous.

*sigh*

:(

I wanted to like this movie, too bad.You still might my love; just wait till the trailer.

Syncos

11-19-2007, 02:33 PM

You still might my love; just wait till the trailer.

:dry:

Did I.... Did I miss something?

Migu-EL

11-19-2007, 02:33 PM

LOL!

:D

Too funny... the casting is about that ridiculous.

*sigh*

:(

I wanted to like this movie, too bad.

You still might my love; just wait till the trailer.

That's if the movie's even going to be made.:ninja:

Superman_

11-19-2007, 02:37 PM

:dry:

Did I.... Did I miss something?You didn't know????

Me and Triplet have a thing going on. I just haven't been around here in these parts for a while. :(

Migu-EL

11-19-2007, 02:39 PM

You didn't know????

Me and Triplet have a thing going on. I just haven't been around here in these parts for a while. :(
:huh: :woot:

ZIPBAGS

11-19-2007, 07:25 PM

Why doesn't Warner just save time and effort. And use this cast. Just add Wonder Woman. :)

http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/smallville56.jpg

AgentPat

11-19-2007, 07:40 PM

^ Don't get me started, Zip. :cmad: :csad:

zerohour films

11-19-2007, 07:43 PM

Why doesn't Warner just save time and effort. And use this cast. Just add Wonder Woman. :)

http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/smallville56.jpg

Never noticed before, but is that a big a$$ knife in Aquaman's boot??

blksuperman2

11-19-2007, 07:56 PM

Never noticed before, but is that a big a$$ knife in Aquaman's boot??

Yep, for stabbing those aquatic beasties that don't listen to him telepathically.

Serene

11-19-2007, 08:01 PM

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/hahaha.gif

Unconfirmed JL cast:

Superman - D.J. Cotrona
Batman - Armie Hammer
Wonder Woman - Megan Gale
Wally West/The Flash - Anton Yelchin
Green Lantern - Common
Aquaman - Santiago Cabrera
Talia al Ghul - Teresa Palmer
Iris - Zoe Kazan

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6535

There are no words. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smirk.gif

*catching up*

Um.. that's a joke, right? RIGHT!??

It HAS to be.

I think I'd rather see another sequel to Singer's movie.

omg, I would too. :(

It saddens me though, that Marvel has the juice in Hollywood to land amazing actors, the likes of Robert Downey Jr. and Edward Norton for their films and this is the best WB could come up with for their crown jewel superhero film.

Okay, IF that's the actual cast, then are we to assume that the budget for actor salaries was about $98? I kid, but seriously, not a single name actor?

I just told my son about this (he's home from college) and you know what he said?
"I like Marvel better. Look at the good actors they cast in X-Men."

To clarify, my son isn't a comics fan - he only knows Marvel from DC by the movies (and what his mother has told him.)

This canNOT be the real cast. It simply can't. :ninja:

Zorex

11-19-2007, 08:13 PM

*catching up*

Um.. that's a joke, right? RIGHT!??

It HAS to be.

omg, I would too. :(

Okay, IF that's the actual cast, then are we to assume that the budget for actor salaries was about $98? I kid, but seriously, not a single name actor?

I just told my son about this (he's home from college) and you know what he said?
"I like Marvel better. Look at the good actors they cast in X-Men."

To clarify, my son isn't a comics fan - he only knows Marvel from DC by the movies (and what his mother has told him.)

This canNOT be the real cast. It simply can't. :ninja:
After all the false leaks, I simply can't *let* myself believe that list to be real (at least not 100% real). Maybe it's more hope than distrust... or both, but I just can't figure that this is the real deal.

triplet

11-19-2007, 08:51 PM

You still might my love; just wait till the trailer.

*arches an eyebrow*

My love?

And I'm not going to hold my breath.

:dry:

Did I.... Did I miss something?

No.

You didn't know????

Me and Triplet have a thing going on. I just haven't been around here in these parts for a while.

Hmm...

In your dreams, supes.

<<------Happily married mother of two.

:huh: :woot:

Don't listen to him.

:rolleyes:

*catching up*

Um.. that's a joke, right? RIGHT!??

It HAS to be.

One can only hope.

Okay, IF that's the actual cast, then are we to assume that the budget for actor salaries was about $98? I kid, but seriously, not a single name actor?

I just told my son about this (he's home from college) and you know what he said?
"I like Marvel better. Look at the good actors they cast in X-Men."

To clarify, my son isn't a comics fan - he only knows Marvel from DC by the movies (and what his mother has told him.)

This canNOT be the real cast. It simply can't. :ninja:

*sigh*

I guess we'll find out sometime this week, if the lastest rumors are true that is...

After all the false leaks, I simply can't *let* myself believe that list to be real (at least not 100% real). Maybe it's more hope than distrust... or both, but I just can't figure that this is the real deal.

It seems too out there.

DJ Controna as Superman?

http://www.wvah.com/programs/skin/djcotrona.jpg

I guess he's okay looking but Superman?

:eek:

That's just Crazy.

The Incredible Hulk

11-19-2007, 10:17 PM

HIS FATHER IS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY!!

/Ron Silver

OobeDoobBenubi

11-19-2007, 10:40 PM

Here we go again

As far as the negotiations, I do think this round will end the strike. I don't know all the details, but from what hear, there's concessions being made on both sides which is really the only way to reach any agreement. It's just a matter of who's willing to concede what.

On the announcement, I would say there's a 90% chance of it leaking in next few days and a 70% chance that WB will make it official before the end of the month. After talking to the person who told me something would happen on Nov 18th, they apparently thought it was an announcement but it was actually the hiring deadline. Either way, at least we know that much is true.

ariellem

11-19-2007, 10:49 PM

...who are any of them? I've never heard of a single name up there...

<exhales at long last> I thought I was the only one.

avidreader

11-19-2007, 10:53 PM

Here we go again

Well that's good news about the Writers Strike and the information about 11/18 sounds plausible. After being severely duped, I give her credit for still trying to give everyone some inside scoop.

<exhales at long last> I thought I was the only one.

No, you werent the only one. :cwink: I've never heard of any of them either.

ariellem

11-19-2007, 10:56 PM

Serene

11-19-2007, 11:01 PM

No, you werent the only one. :cwink: I've never heard of any of them either.

Superman - D.J. Cotrona
Batman - Armie Hammer
Wonder Woman - Megan Gale
Wally West/The Flash - Anton Yelchin
Green Lantern - Common
Aquaman - Santiago Cabrera
Talia al Ghul - Teresa Palmer
Iris - Zoe Kazan

I only know these names because of all the recent talk about them in regards to this movie! Oh wait, I believe D.J. Cotrona was a name mentioned during the last casting wars? Maybe? And of course that Santiago Cabrera was Isaac on Heroes.

I can't get over the imdb entry saying that Arnie Hammer is 6'5". Maybe that's a mistake? Is Batman supposed to look like an NBA player compared to teeny little Superman? :confused: :(

I'm still calling b.s. on this list. (with fingers crossed)

avidreader

11-19-2007, 11:04 PM

Superman - D.J. Cotrona
Batman - Armie Hammer
Wonder Woman - Megan Gale
Wally West/The Flash - Anton Yelchin
Green Lantern - Common
Aquaman - Santiago Cabrera
Talia al Ghul - Teresa Palmer
Iris - Zoe Kazan

I only know these names because of all the recent talk about them in regards to this movie! Oh wait, I believe D.J. Cotrona was a name mentioned during the last casting wars? Maybe? And of course that Santiago Cabrera was Isaac on Heroes.

I can't get over the imdb entry saying that Arnie Hammer is 6'5". Maybe that's a mistake? Is Batman supposed to look like an NBA player compared to teeny little Superman? :confused: :(

I'm still calling b.s. on this list. (with fingers crossed)

It does sound kind of crazy. :wow:

Actually the only name that I think I've barely heard of is Teresa Palmer, but I have no idea where I know her name from.

I'm watching the Godfather at the moment. Now that's a cast list. ;)

Serene

11-19-2007, 11:11 PM

OK, Hammer is covered. Let's completely re-cast the rest of them in the same (80s-ish) vein. I vote for Boris Yeltsin i/o Anton Yelchin, Palmer the golfer for Teresa Palmer, and Boy "Karma Chameleon" George for Common. If our replacement is deceased, no problem - they revived those 40s actors for all of those commercials... Someone want to re-cast the other few?

I think these are pretty self-explanatory. :dry: ;)

http://images.art.com/images/products/regular/10031000/10031999.jpg

http://www.lostwackys.com/images/products/Arm_Hammer.jpg

OH wait, you meant cast people. Sorry. :D

triplet

11-19-2007, 11:15 PM

It does sound kind of crazy. :wow:

Actually the only name that I think I've barely heard of is Teresa Palmer, but I have no idea where I know her name from.

I'm watching the Godfather at the moment. Now that's a cast list. ;)

Teresa Palmer is Australian.

Maybe you saw or heard about her down under sometime?

AgentPat

11-20-2007, 12:44 AM

Yep, for stabbing those aquatic beasties that don't listen to him telepathically.Oh snap! Any chance Alan Horn, Dan Lin, or George Miller is an "aquatic beasty?"

No?

*sigh*

Um.. that's a joke, right? RIGHT!??

It HAS to be.It may very well be. Not *my* joke, but somebody's joke. I blame Marv. LOL

omg, I would too. :(I wouldn't want either, though I'd be more inclined to give JL a shot since I know what to expect with the alternative.

Okay, IF that's the actual cast, then are we to assume that the budget for actor salaries was about $98? I kid, but seriously, not a single name actor?Interesting, huh? I'm assuming Brody will find his way onto the list at some point, so maybe that's what they meant when they said they were casting the pic with "stars," I dunno.

To clarify, my son isn't a comics fan - he only knows Marvel from DC by the movies (and what his mother has told him.)I learned from those YouTube video parodies - "I'm a Marvel, and I'm a DC."

LOL!! ;) J/K

You guys are gonna love this! Christian Bale is ranked #10 on AskMen's Top 50 Men of the Year.

Under his 2007 Resume is this beute:
"Refused to reprise his role of Batman for the upcoming Justice League movie."

http://www.askmen.com/specials/2007_top_49/christian-bale-10.html

ROFL!!! Niiiiiice!!! :D :up:

avidreader

11-20-2007, 05:20 AM

Teresa Palmer is Australian.

Maybe you saw or heard about her down under sometime?

Well there ya go! Maybe its my psychic abilities. :cwink:

OobeDoobBenubi

11-20-2007, 07:31 AM

This is now silly beyond silly

http://www.moviehole.net/news/20071120_jla_still_open_for_business.html

The Hollywood Reporter hints that "Justice League" may be postponed because they haven't got a shooting script yet. I don't whether that's the case or not, that they haven't locked script yet - and if it is, no, they're not allowed to pick up a biro and tweak the screenplay; so they'll just have to er, improvise - but I've been informed that ''the film is still definitely on track" regardless and that "The cast is a lock as of today''. (So you can stop sending me your resumes and photos!).

A bunch of caped heroes will be cruising the clouds of Sydney early next year. Wham. Bam. Thank You Diane Lane.

The cast is expected to be announced tomorrow (it's Tuesday here in Melbourne). Look forward to hearing your thoughts when the players are revealed... (sure to be some who loathe Dean Cain reprising his role as Superman, but that's to be expected - - - -joke, joke).

Talk amongst yourselves. Or in a forum. Or with the other voice in the head.

Migu-EL

11-20-2007, 07:47 AM

Common as Green Lantern is the only casting choice that makes sense from that unconfirmed list.:o

The Incredible Hulk

11-20-2007, 08:20 AM

Here we go again

she's giving odds now? :confused: Her story always seems to change AFTER the fact, to fit the news thats leaked elsewhere...

Superman_

11-20-2007, 08:35 AM

The Incredible Hulk

11-20-2007, 09:53 AM

I seem to remember you guys singing a different tune when she said Welling was going to be Superman. Look I am not saying she is right or wrong but if you guys supported her in the past give her a second chance she might be right about some of the stuff.

I did put some stock in what she was saying in the past, however over the past month or so, even before she said Welling was done, her story always seemed to change after the fact.

AgentPat

11-20-2007, 10:11 AM

Some interesting little tid-bits to be found over at BOF. Now I realize Jett is wicked biased (I kinda don't blame him), but this stuff is gold LOL.

From one of his sources:
"I hear that the JL script is laughable at best. Sounds like a pretty rotten movie altogether."

And from Jett himself:
"...I will say that 'allegedly,' WB has put so much money into JL so far that they are afraid not going full steam ahead despite a poor script and who they are able to cast. It's past BVS but not quite as far along as SUPERMAN LIVES. Also, lots of one-liners that includes jokes about WW's boobs, etc. :rolleyes: "

http://p088.ezboard.com/Im-REALLY-worried--and-you-should-be-too/fbatmanonfilm81780frm32.showMessage?topicID=119.to pic

LOL! Like I said, this stuff's gold. :p

OobeDoobBenubi

11-20-2007, 10:15 AM

"...I will say that 'allegedly,' WB has put so much money into JL so far that they are afraid not going full steam ahead despite a poor script and who they are able to cast. It's past BVS but not quite as far along as SUPERMAN LIVES. Also, lots of one-liners that includes jokes about WW's boobs, etc. :rolleyes: "

http://p088.ezboard.com/Im-REALLY-worried--and-you-should-be-too/fbatmanonfilm81780frm32.showMessage?topicID=119.to pic

The hell ? I hope he is talking out of his ass

Showtime

11-20-2007, 10:18 AM

I thought Rob and others were saying the script was fantastic originally?

AgentPat

11-20-2007, 10:20 AM

It's actually the kind of humor I expected given the apparent casting, target audience, and writing team.

Too bad they didn't get Kevin Smith to polish before the strike. :p

And that doesn't mean the script is BAD. It just means the humor is a little... crass. ;)

AgentPat

11-20-2007, 10:34 AM

One more from BOF, and I'll stop dragging stuff over here. This one is just too funny:

JLA Batman walks into a bar, and orders a drink.

Bartender says "Sorry, but ya gotta be 21"

JLA Batman: "I'm Batman"

Bartender: "Yeah, and I'm George Burns. Lemme see the I.D."

JLA Batman "I don't have my I.D. Even if I did, I wouldn't show you. It's secret"

Bartender "Sorry, you should try Chucky Cheese."

Pissed, the JLA Batman walks out, and is about to get into the Batmobile, when a cop stops him. "Are you old enough to drive that thing? Lemme see some I.D."

JLA Batman sighs, and think to himself "This never happens to Bale."They are SO not happy with the 21 y.o. Batman casting. LOL ;)

OobeDoobBenubi

11-20-2007, 10:39 AM

Is there a Wonder Boobs one yet :o

AgentPat

11-20-2007, 11:17 AM

Hmm... well, for those still keeping score at home:

I called almost a dozen people in the past hour trying to get anything I could on the release that Clint posted. Everyone had the same exact answer...

Soon.

However, I was told something interesting. Apparently, one of the names that leaked out for the cast this past Friday declined Miller's offer. He couldn't say which one, but did say it came as a surprise to everyone and that it's the only reason the casting hasn't been announced yet.^ Posted at IESB

OobeDoobBenubi

11-20-2007, 11:18 AM

Maybe he saw the fan reaction & thought to hell with this **** :woot:

AgentPat

11-20-2007, 11:22 AM

^ First thing I thought, too. What do y'all want to bet it was Brody? That would leave this film with exactly ZERO names known to the general public. Zee-Row! LOL

*shakes head*

OobeDoobBenubi

11-20-2007, 11:23 AM

^ First thing I thought, too. What do y'all want to bet it was Brody? That would leave this film with exactly ZERO names known to the general public. Zee-Row! LOL

*shakes head*

What about Common ? Jayne said this decline surprised everybody & we all know the WB thought that Common was a for sure lock since the first day he was listed & in the Green Lantern Spin off he wont be used & it could be Palmer. Maybe she really wanted Wonder Woman but got picked for a smaller role.

JackMercy

11-20-2007, 11:28 AM

"Nobody knows anything."

--William Goldman

It's never been truer than it is now...

Look it up, kids...

;)

OobeDoobBenubi

11-20-2007, 11:29 AM

"Nobody knows anything."

Are you saying that Tom Welling declined :wow:

Superman_

11-20-2007, 11:33 AM

AgentPat

11-20-2007, 11:35 AM

"Nobody knows anything."

--William GoldmanHah! I use that one quite a bit myself:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=9898477#post9898477

It's never been truer than it is now...Ya think? LOL ;)

I'm sticking with my "hunches" Jack, how 'bout you? :p

PS: Come out and play more. We miss ya 'round these parts. :(

JackMercy

11-20-2007, 11:55 AM

This is why I am glad I can enjoy both Smallville and Superman Returns because with news like this and with all the bad rumors I am hearing I am glad a sequel to Returns is still happening after the strike is over.

"Nobody Knows Anything."

But if I had to give my expert opinion, I would say that simple business logic should tell you that...

A certain studio wouldn't be at all interested in producing a certain movie you're all hearing about now, if they were certainly interested in producing a sequel to a certain controversial release from 2006...

Then again, I do think it's certainly possible that certain factors might have already caused that certain project you're all hearing about right now to change its status to ...uncertain, or even ...certainly not!

:word:

RakuMon

11-20-2007, 11:57 AM

What the blood clot?! :confused:

OobeDoobBenubi

11-20-2007, 12:06 PM

What the blood clot?! :confused:

He is certain about something. I think what Jack is saying is that the WB would not even want to do Justice League if that 2006 movie was not so controversial

zerohour films

11-20-2007, 12:15 PM

^Agreed, that is what I gathered.

That they were certain on moving forward with JL and not MOS because of SR's controversy. So a sequel to SR was dead.

But given new circumstances involving JL and it's certainty, maybe a sequel (or possibly reboot) isn't so uncertain anymore.

AgentPat

11-20-2007, 12:20 PM

Ut oh... Gough better re-hire them bodyguards he thought he didn't need...

Couple updates, first I want to say that we were first to report Brody, Common and Palmer for JLA, it was exclusive until somebody decided to tip off other sites with our news. We had it posted hours before anyone else did. Sour grapes from competing website loyalists.

Porter has told multiple people including my source that he was only up for The Flash, this was on Friday before the Superman rumors started.

I am confident that Porter was never up for Superman.

I was with a studio friends yesterday on a studio lot watching an early screening of a film that I can't talk about.

They wanted to share a couple things including a little bit about we reported months ago, they swear that Tom Welling was the studios number one choice for Superman, they fought hard and long with the Smallville producers to let them use him for JLA but that they ended up losing the fight.

Good news for our readers, two of my closest friends just got hired to work on JLA, I can't say what department but lets just say that once production starts we should start getting plenty of details from the locations, sets, props and wardrobe :)

Big day today, will be back on the boards later.

OobeDoobBenubi

11-20-2007, 12:26 PM

Gough could end up more hated the Singer & I am surprised he did not say anything about the cast member that declined. Unless Welling is the guy they were hoping to sign but now give up

Prison Mike

11-20-2007, 12:31 PM

Damn you Gough! Damn you.

Migu-EL

11-20-2007, 12:32 PM

"Nobody Knows Anything."

But if I had to give my expert opinion, I would say that simple business logic should tell you that...

A certain studio wouldn't be at all interested in producing a certain movie you're all hearing about now, if they were certainly interested in producing a sequel to a certain controversial release from 2006...

Then again, I do think it's certainly possible that certain factors might have already caused that certain project you're all hearing about right now to change its status to ...uncertain, or even ...certainly not!

:word:

This certainly makes too much sense.:cwink:

OobeDoobBenubi

11-20-2007, 12:33 PM

Damn you Gough! Damn you.

Singer should be a happy guy now. Gough just got a promotion

Migu-EL

11-20-2007, 12:35 PM

Ut oh... Gough better re-hire them bodyguards he thought he didn't need...

:wow:

OobeDoobBenubi

11-20-2007, 12:48 PM

Some more from Robert

The SHH! casting is very doubtful and it smells like bull****. I personally don't believe the casting of Megan Gale as WW, DJ for Supes, Armie as Bats and Anton as the Flash.

Will give my reasons later but if you Google Megan Gale and look for images the first thing that you see our nude photos of her, I doubt that WB would be cool with hiring an actress that is known for nude modeling with tons of nude shots and video on the web when she has to be a role model for girls of all ages.

I think she hot but imagine children Googling her name and the first thing that comes up are of Wonder Woman naked

Prison Mike

11-20-2007, 12:49 PM

*goes to google Megan Gale immediately*

Cmill216

11-20-2007, 12:54 PM

What Google search engine is he using? :huh:

Superman_

11-20-2007, 12:56 PM

What Google search engine is he using? :huh:The same one that told him Tom Welling was in fact a lock for Superman.

Bruce_Wayne29

11-20-2007, 01:20 PM

Damn them to hell ! I would have seen this movie countless times if Tom was in it even if it had that horrible cast and a bad script.
They better (Gough and Millar) pitch a Superman movie to Warner Bros. to make up for this B.S. or they can expect huge backlash from the fans.

Migu-EL

11-20-2007, 01:34 PM

The same one that told him Tom Welling was in fact a lock for Superman.

LMAO:oldrazz: ..............

:cmad: :csad:

The Incredible Hulk

11-20-2007, 01:50 PM

Hate Gough all you want but if SHH's casting is even anywhere near accurate, he may have done Tom a favor...

triplet

11-20-2007, 01:57 PM

Damn those bastards over at IESB for spoiling Smallville!

:mad:

ZIPBAGS

11-20-2007, 02:03 PM

Well if true that the studio wanted Welling. I would keep at it. With this writers strike continuing. Tom will be free.

musclesforsupes

11-20-2007, 02:23 PM

Docker2.0

11-20-2007, 02:28 PM

My thing is, couldn't the WB have MADE G&M let Tom work on the movie? I mean, they are over Smallville and could easily put them in their place. :huh:

Kalleo

11-20-2007, 02:29 PM

Paradoxium

11-20-2007, 02:29 PM

Not trying to defend Gough (ok a little bit since he prevented Welling from being Superman, god bless his soul)... but guy has to make a living, even if it involves writing bad soap opera out of comicbook characters as a gimmick.

Kalleo

11-20-2007, 02:30 PM

My thing is, couldn't the WB have MADE G&M let Tom work on the movie? I mean, they are over Smallville and could easily put them in their place. :huh:

Yeah you would think with the strike on the horizon they would def let Tom go do JLA that way they could pick up viewers when SV comes back.

Mike22

11-20-2007, 02:34 PM

God I hate those damn producers of smallville. Damn them both to hell.http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

BUT... Since Welling isn`t the one that declined the part, does this mean that he`ll most likely agree to do the man of steel reboot after smallville is over. That`s where the hope is right now.

OobeDoobBenubi

11-20-2007, 02:37 PM

BUT... Since Welling isn`t the one that declined the part, does this mean that he`ll most likely agree to do the man of steel reboot after smallville is over. That`s where the hope is right now.

I am sure they will still find a way to stop Welling even after the show is over :oldrazz:

triplet

11-20-2007, 02:47 PM

Well if true that the studio wanted Welling. I would keep at it. With this writers strike continuing. Tom will be free.

It might not be that easy...

If the strike continues past the point of no return, the rest of the season will be cancelled but when is that?

If it's not soon, the point of no return might be too late for Tom to sign to do this.

The Incredible Hulk

11-20-2007, 02:50 PM

I believe they said the point of no return for the season would be like mid to late January

musclesforsupes

11-20-2007, 02:59 PM

Now I know why Gough was doing damage control a few weeks back, just trying to cover his arse. I swear it must not be meant to be for Welling to be superman ever. Singer screws him, Gough screws him, hell probably warner will screw him next.

musclesforsupes

11-20-2007, 03:00 PM

I still say does anyone at all have an address to the WB where we can write and voice are anger? Someone had horn's addy earlier.

The Incredible Hulk

11-20-2007, 03:22 PM

triplet

11-20-2007, 03:28 PM

I believe they said the point of no return for the season would be like mid to late January

Yeah, that'd likely be too late for Tom to commit to this.

I still dont get the anger? :confused: So far, this movie has been shaping up to be a miscast terd. I wouldnt want to see welling's Supes wasted in something like this. It's not like he's missing out on starring alongside the likes of Reynolds, Duhamel, Monica Dean, etc.

Yeah, it's probably just as well like last time.

*sigh*

Docker2.0

11-20-2007, 03:29 PM

I don't understand the WB. Reynolds wanted to be the Flash. You put him beside Welling and Monica for WW and you'd have a core that would bring in fans becuase they all have a cult following. They are making this movie with a young cast because they are planning on doing a trilogy but if this movie bombs, then what was the point of filming with a young cast? If it's to campy, noone will go and see it. And the actors mentioned above are in their late to early 30s. You can do a trilogy with that crowd. :huh:

Superman_

11-20-2007, 03:35 PM

AgentPat

11-20-2007, 04:20 PM

I still dont get the anger? :confused: So far, this movie has been shaping up to be a miscast terd. I wouldn't want to see welling's Supes wasted in something like this. It's not like he's missing out on starring alongside the likes of Reynolds, Duhamel, Monica Dean, etc.Exactly, but the question becomes, IF he was cast, would they have had a better chance of keeping Reynolds, Duhamel, or even Biel?

Hear me out for a second...

If Welling was Warners #1 choice for the role, they would have had him in mind for quite a while, and indeed the MSN article from last February supports that, right? So hypothetically speaking, if Warners offered the other roles to actors like Biel, Reynolds, Duhamel etc., wouldn't they have been told about other actors being sought or already on the leash as well as the production cache - Miller, Osbourne, Weta Digital, etc.? Seems logical, right?

Variety broke the news about Biel being approached for JL one month after Sanchez broke the Welling news. Interestingly enough, both deals apparently fell through around the same time. Could one be a result of the other? I'm not talking about one actor wanting to work with another per se, but if one drops out, that sends a ripple through the system and other actors start to become concerned. "Why did so and so bail?" Notice how the rumored big names on JL seemed to drop off one by one. Why is that? Why did the casting on JL seemingly fall apart like a house of cards?

Who was the first to go? Welling! Then look what happened:

Biel - gone
Reynolds - cast in another film
Duhamel - wasn't "looking good" as of yesterday
And per Jayne, another confirmed actor declined the offer on Friday

Now I know this film has been a great big WTF since Day One, but it did/does have some pretty impressive things going for it:

Script is supposedly fantastic
Great director
Oscar winning producer
Biggest studio in OZ to shoot at
Sony Digital and Weta doing effects...

I mean, come ON?! I know the strike put a HUGE kink in everybody's plans, and I believe there WAS something up with the script before the strike took effect, but something is re-heeeeely screwy with this thang. And not fer nuthin', but these casting issues all seem to track back to August/Sept sometime. :ninja:

phil

11-20-2007, 04:24 PM

Paradoxium

11-20-2007, 04:26 PM

Maybe Biel thought JLA would have real actors like Bale and Rou... I mean Bale. Then when she learnt Welling and/or no names were going to be in it, she pulled out. :D:up:

Thunder Emperor

11-20-2007, 04:42 PM

Maybe Biel thought JLA would have real actors like Bale and Rou... I mean Bale. Then when she learnt Welling and/or no names were going to be in it, she pulled out. :D:up:

Routh ahhahaha, you call him an actor. Seriously Para, whats you gig you don't like Welling. Point taken:whatever:

Paradoxium

11-20-2007, 04:44 PM

notice: Rou... I mean

Thunder Emperor

11-20-2007, 04:46 PM

notice: Rou... I mean

lol ok

Paradoxium

11-20-2007, 04:49 PM

Shesh :mad: I am not completely insane just yet :o

mellyM

11-20-2007, 06:40 PM

I still dont get the anger? :confused: So far, this movie has been shaping up to be a miscast terd. I wouldnt want to see welling's Supes wasted in something like this. It's not like he's missing out on starring alongside the likes of Reynolds, Duhamel, Monica Dean, etc.

All I know is I'm a huge Welling and I'm happy as can be he has nothing to with this film. I still would love for him to play Superman, but not if they can't seem to do the character justice. For me, Smallville is the best example of a live-action Superman since the first 2 Superman films with Chris Reeve, and Tom is a big reason for that, so if this is all we get, I think I'll live:).

Gmanofsteel

11-20-2007, 06:40 PM

Al gough shall burn in hell

SamuraiSon6

11-20-2007, 08:34 PM

Hopefully these solo movies won't be spin-offs. This guy has to be Superman, he's the longest running actor, how could they not cash in on that?
Here's my former drawing of the JL that became a Superman solo drawing not too long ago after I knew the right guy wasn't happening AGAIN. I think we need to keep at it to make sure this one day happens. This will be all color with an action type of background. This guy screams Superman! there's going to be a lot of changes, I just drew it over the weekend.
http://18.photobucket.com/albums/b110/philm8/draw.jpg

excellent drawing....you should post it in the fanart section for more feedback

musclesforsupes

11-20-2007, 08:44 PM

Triplet you probably are familiar with the guys at Kryptonsite, what are there views on the subject, and Gough and if he screwed the fans. Will they post an article on this?

Also I swear if anyone EVER sees Tom Welling please ask him about a Superman movie, and if anyone goes to the next Comic Con where ever and Gough is there ask him WTF?

Serene

11-20-2007, 09:53 PM

Hopefully these solo movies won't be spin-offs. This guy has to be Superman, he's the longest running actor, how could they not cash in on that?
Here's my former drawing of the JL that became a Superman solo drawing not too long ago after I knew the right guy wasn't happening AGAIN. I think we need to keep at it to make sure this one day happens. This will be all color with an action type of background. This guy screams Superman! there's going to be a lot of changes, I just drew it over the weekend.
http://18.photobucket.com/albums/b110/philm8/draw.jpg

Beatiful, phil! And I really like it just the way it is. I'm glad you posted this pre-colored version. :up:

The latest from Scott Porter's myspace. LOL.. I really like this guy. :D
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1180/scottportertx1.jpg

OobeDoobBenubi

11-20-2007, 09:57 PM

Did Scott get that Superman Shirt yet :woot:

triplet

11-20-2007, 10:30 PM

All I know is I'm a huge Welling and I'm happy as can be he has nothing to with this film. I still would love for him to play Superman, but not if they can't seem to do the character justice. For me, Smallville is the best example of a live-action Superman since the first 2 Superman films with Chris Reeve, and Tom is a big reason for that, so if this is all we get, I think I'll live:).

Quoted for Truth.

:up:

Triplet you probably are familiar with the guys at Kryptonsite, what are there views on the subject, and Gough and if he screwed the fans. Will they post an article on this?

I'm sorta friendly with Craig, but it's not like we're close or anything.

I just write the reviews and some he likes and some he doesn't. I don't have any idea whether Craig will post an article about this.

It's all water under the bridge, muscles.

It's disappointing, but at this point venting your angry does little good. It'll just make your blood pressure go up.

Also I swear if anyone EVER sees Tom Welling please ask him about a Superman movie, and if anyone goes to the next Comic Con where ever and Gough is there ask him WTF?

I hope no one does this. Seriously, it might be a disaster to the fans but to keep on about it to him might be annoying.

The last thing I'd want it Tom to be annoyed with me when I just met him.

Gmanofsteel

11-21-2007, 06:31 AM

Beatiful, phil! And I really like it just the way it is. I'm glad you posted this pre-colored version. :up:

The latest from Scott Porter's myspace. LOL.. I really like this guy. :D
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1180/scottportertx1.jpg

Gotta love the guy :D :up:

OobeDoobBenubi

11-21-2007, 08:29 AM

I keep on getting told that its going to happen at any moment, I'm waiting around just like you guys. Should be today, should have been last week.

OK. Here it is.

My good friend Teresa Palmer is in the film. She's - along with the rest of
the cast - been told to expect the full cast announcement sometime today.

I've no idea why nothing has been announced yet... I'm waiting for the
announcement myself. I don't know what the hold up is...

P.S - we were told sometime Wednesday (U.S time)

Lets see what happens but I highly doubt anything will happen today

avidreader

11-21-2007, 10:58 AM

GOUGH I HATE YOU MORE THAN SINGER, OR MENGERMACK! DAMM YOU TOTALLY SCREWED THIS FOR US FANS. DONT YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY? WTF YOU THINK SMALLVILLE THE MOVIE WILL GO TO BIG SCREEN! I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BOYCOTT SMALLVILLE AND NOT EVEN WATCH THIS AGAIN! GOUGH YOUR A JERK! YOU KNEW THE FANS WANTED WELLING AND THEN YOU SCREW US OVER! BECAUSE YOUR A GREEDY SOB!

I HOPE SMALLVILLE GETS CANCELLED NOW, I COULD GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE SHOW NOW.

GOD I AM SO MAD :cmad:

What were Gough and Millar supposed to do. Okay Tom, we'll give you a couple of months off so you can go and make this film, and we'll just somehow write Clark out of Smallville for four or five episodes. No one will notice. :whatever:

And are we to believe Robert on this? Just a couple of days ago we heard that George Millar had his own vision of who he wanted to play the characters and two days later its all Gough's fault.

The whole thing is just a mess, and I dont care anymore and I'm just glad we still have Tom as Superman on Smallville. (unless of course by some miracle Tom gets cast in the role, then I'll be interested again) :cwink: :woot:

Cmill216

11-21-2007, 11:12 AM

we'll just somehow write Clark out of Smallville for four or five episodes. No one will notice. :whatever:

Considering Clark's diminishing screentime over the past season and a half, I'm pretty sure no one would notice. :csad:

triplet

11-21-2007, 12:02 PM

What were Gough and Millar supposed to do. Okay Tom, we'll give you a couple of months off so you can go and make this film, and we'll just somehow write Clark out of Smallville for four or five episodes. No one will notice. :whatever:

And are we to believe Robert on this? Just a couple of days ago we heard that George Millar had his own vision of who he wanted to play the characters and two days later its all Gough's fault.

The whole thing is just a mess, and I dont care anymore and I'm just glad we still have Tom as Superman on Smallville. (unless of course by some miracle Tom's gets cast in the role, then I'll be interested again) :cwink: :woot:

I agree.

I don't hate them or the show because Tom couldn't do this movie. It just didn't work out.

If it does work out, and by some miracle is he cast, then I will probably be one of the happiest Tom fans on the planet but I'm not going to lose any sleep over the fact it doesn't look like he's going to be in it.

It might be just as well. The script maybe isn't as good as it had been touted and the other cast members (if these names are true) are less than stellar...

Tom may very well have dodged a bullet here but we may not be able to tell for sure until it unspools, if it gets made at all...

AgentPat

11-21-2007, 12:17 PM

Considering Clark's diminishing screentime over the past season and a half, I'm pretty sure no one would notice. :csad:I believe Clark's screentime is back up this season, though it's hard to tell; they haven't focused on telling his story in quite a while. The last Clark-centric ep was Labyrinth.

As to JL, both Clint and Robert seem to think (LOL) that there will be an announcement today.

Okay, everybody on three...

One...

Two...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/holdbreath.jpg

:D

Superman_

11-21-2007, 12:34 PM

I believe Clark's screentime is back up this season, though it's hard to tell; they haven't focused on telling his story in quite a while. The last Clark-centric ep was Labyrinth.

As to JL, both Clint and Robert seem to think (LOL) that there will be an announcement today.

Okay, everybody on three...

One...

Two...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/holdbreath.jpg

:D
You and your cats. Keep it up and you'll be known as the crazy old cat lady of the hype ;)

The Incredible Hulk

11-21-2007, 01:22 PM

seems like an odd day to make an announcement. Not a lot of people in work, and a lot of people are traveling. I wouldnt think we'd see anything official until at least Monday at this point.

zerohour films

11-21-2007, 01:24 PM

seems like an odd day to make an announcement. Not a lot of people in work, and a lot of people are traveling. I wouldnt think we'd see anything official until at least Monday at this point.

But Robert promised!! That has to count for something.....doesn't it?

*Please take note of the sarcasm*

AgentPat

11-21-2007, 01:33 PM

seems like an odd day to make an announcement...That's why I think people shouldn't hold their breath - let Felix do that upthread. :D

musclesforsupes

11-21-2007, 01:53 PM

WOW where is this , or is the WB scared lol.

heliorei

11-21-2007, 02:51 PM

I don't want to see Welling as Superman in some crappy movie, Justice League in diapers.

Hoping someday he will be Superman - Smallville series finale, with cape and tights - and wishful thinking, a Superman mmovie based on Smallville.

Mikelus

11-22-2007, 03:16 PM

People getting upset should consider that if the JL movie does badly, Tom will feel very relieved he wasn't part of it. ;)
I rather see him doing a good Superman movie or move on with his career than doing the JL film.

AgentPat

11-22-2007, 09:48 PM

In the dept. of nobody knows nuthin'...

First of all, to the dozens of you that are desperate to know what’s going on, I’ve no idea why the trades didn’t announce the “Justice League” cast this week – as planned. I can tell you that most of the film’s cast members, who are a lock, were informed that on Wednesday they’d know who they’d be sharing the screen with – believe it or not, none of them have been told who they’ll be co-starring opposite; seems Warner has kept them as much in the dark as they have us – but alas, that announcement never came.

Why? I haven’t the foggiest. Is it because the writer’s strike has taken precedence with the trades? Is it because a couple of the cast aren’t officially signed on yet? Is it because, as rumoured, there’s problems - problems that can’t be fixed, due to the WGA strike – with the script? Your guess is as good as mine. Believe me, some of the “Justice League” cast are just as anxious to hear whose playing their superhero counterparts….

The only ray of light for the film this week came with George Miller’s appearance, or rather non-appearance at the IF Awards in Queensland, to accept his ‘legend’ award. George couldn’t be there because he was “working on a new film” but he did record a special ‘thanks’ via video. And where was he sitting? In a creamy white set – and it definitely looked like a set – somewhere that wasn’t in Queensland. Was it the Hall of Justice? Quite possibly… but the camera didn’t pan around enough for one to see.

http://www.moviehole.net/news/20071123_no_justice_for_us_or_jack_blac.html

Docker2.0

11-22-2007, 10:03 PM

Hall of Justice? :huh: Wow, this is looking more and more like the Superfriends aka campy. I'm glad Welling isn't in this. :o

triplet

11-22-2007, 10:37 PM

Hall of Justice? :huh: Wow, this is looking more and more like the Superfriends aka campy. I'm glad Welling isn't in this. :o

I was flipping last night and ran across an old superfriends episode.

:eek:

Why did I enjoy that show so much?

Yikes.... scary if they're using that as inspriration.

:(

AgentPat

11-22-2007, 10:54 PM

Remember folks, "Transformers in Tights." I would say that analogy applies to the target audience as much as the film's approach. They'll make their money from the teenybopper crowd with the casting, but they'll also get people who watched the old Saturday morning "Superfriends" cartoons to show up out of curiosity too. I used to watch that show religiously, along with Land of the Lost, Shazam, Isis, Flintstones, Jetsons and a host of other silly programs. I'm still waiting to see a studio announce an H.R. Pufnstuf movie, 'cause apparently, there's a TON of money to be made in this sort of nostalgia. :p

C. Lee

11-22-2007, 11:02 PM

A prequel...H.R.Pufnstuf: the Newt Years

AgentPat

11-22-2007, 11:05 PM

A prequel...H.R.Pufnstuf: the Newt Years[runs screaming]

LOL!

Give 'em time, C.

;) :D

Serene

11-22-2007, 11:18 PM

I'm still waiting to see a studio announce an H.R. Pufnstuf movie, 'cause apparently, there's a TON of money to be made in this sort of nostalgia. :p

Not that I'm old enough to have actually SEEN this movie (or to have had my first fangirl crush on Jack Wild) but -- Pufnstuf - The Movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066256/).

Okay, I actually did see it, in the theaters even. :O

AgentPat

11-22-2007, 11:23 PM

Not that I'm old enough to have actually SEEN this movie (or to have had my first fangirl crush on Jack Wild) but -- Pufnstuf - The Movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066256/).

Okay, I actually did see it, in the theaters even. :OHoly crap, I DID see that movie. OMG!!!

Okay, just shoot me now. LMFAO!!!!

Mama Cass was in that pic. MAMA freakin' CASS!!!! Baahaa!!! :p

avidreader

11-23-2007, 07:32 AM

Not that I'm old enough to have actually SEEN this movie (or to have had my first fangirl crush on Jack Wild) but -- Pufnstuf - The Movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066256/).

Okay, I actually did see it, in the theaters even. :O

They made a movie about H.R. Pufnstuf??? I only ever remember the TV show, and now I cant get the silly theme song out of my head. :hyper:

ZIPBAGS

11-23-2007, 09:39 AM

triplet

11-23-2007, 01:37 PM

Hey, maybe the delay in annoucing the cast. Is that they want to get Tom Welling and are waiting for the writers strike to go on so long that it forces Smallville to cancel the rest of the season..Thus freeing him up.

Yeah. I know its nevah going to happen. But, gotta have some hope. ;)

Well, I think it's a slim hope but it's sucks that Goughlar had blocked Tom because of scheduling conflicts with Smallville and then the conflicts disappear.

Maybe it'll work out, but I'm not sure the strike will go on for too much longer since it's starting to affect major tentpole films like The Da Vinci Code prequel, Angels and Demons.

Was it here that I'd read that some were betting that if A&D got delayed because of this that they'd find someway to settle?

If not, is it a coincidence that shortly after A&D had announced being postponed that the AMPTP sees reason and now doesn't insist on the walk-out end before they resume talks?

Things that make you wanna say hmmm, but if that's the case (and the studios don't want their big money makers to be killed off) don't count on the strike going on much past Smallville's point of no return...

If it does, is Warners wiling to wait another month or so to announce the cast?

Don't hold your breath, but it's an interesting set of circumstances that could play into Tom's favor (if this film is any good that is).

If it isn't any good, then I hope it doesn't work out.

Big tentpole or not, I don't want Tom in anything less than a terrific film.

He's been a couple of okay films and one trainwreck.

He needs a better film to prove that he can put butts in theatre seats and has the chops (and the box office pull) required to be a film actor.

From my sources I will say that you'r right on the money... :cwink: All I can tell you is to keep the hope alive. :woot:

I guess everyone has "sources"....

;) :D

OobeDoobBenubi

11-23-2007, 01:39 PM

From my sources I will say that you'r right on the money... :cwink: All I can tell you is to keep the hope alive. :woot:

Everybody has sources now :huh: I have sources as well but they keep telling me to not say **** because with all of the WBs lies you will end up looking like an idiot more then likely

AgentPat

11-23-2007, 01:41 PM

Who or what is "A&D." I need some brain floss after all the turkey I've eaten. :D

Hand Duet

11-23-2007, 01:51 PM

Everybody has sources now :huh: I have sources as well but they keep telling me to not say **** because with all of the WBs lies you will end up looking like an idiot more then likely

So says the man with the silliest name in the entire galaxy!
But I agree everyone has a source now a days... Mines tells me that it will be Gary Coleman playing Superman! :wow:

OobeDoobBenubi

11-23-2007, 02:01 PM

So says the man with the silliest name in the entire galaxy!

Fixed

AgentPat

11-23-2007, 02:06 PM

Now that you mention it, how come you changed? I was just getting used to ole C'Booster. ;)

Hand Duet

11-23-2007, 02:16 PM

Fixed

I stand corrected... As you know A 1-armed man killed my wife Sabrina, a working girl.

And now I'm a fugitive and in clear & present danger. I should be presumed innocent, but they're playing patriot games with me; Raiders, regarding Henry, Blade Runner & Air Force One.

OobeDoobBenubi

11-23-2007, 02:22 PM

Now that you mention it, how come you changed? I was just getting used to ole C'Booster. ;)

I thought this was funnier :woot:

triplet

11-23-2007, 02:28 PM

Who or what is "A&D." I need some brain floss after all the turkey I've eaten. :D

Angels and Demons, the Da Vinci Code prequel....

It was originally set to start filming in February, but has been delayed due to script problems.

Bond 22 has already hit a snag of some kind, right? I believe that's been delayed too....

Because of things like this, I don't think that the strike will last as long as the last one (six months) because the studios don't seem to mind TV seasons getting cut short but do seem to mind when their tentpoles get impacted. However, will the strike go past Smallville's point of no return?

Will it free up Tom so he won't be hampered by Goughlar? If this film is nearly pure dreck like The Fog, do we really want him to be freed up just so he can add another sub-par project to his resume?

I guess only time will tell on all accounts.

OobeDoobBenubi

11-23-2007, 02:38 PM

Angels and Demons, the Da Vinci Code prequel....

It was originally set to start filming in February, but has been delayed due to script problems.

Bond 22 has already hit a snag of some kind, right? I believe that's been delayed too....

Because of things like this, I don't think that the strike will last as long as the last one (six months) because the studios don't seem to mind TV seasons getting cut short but do seem to mind when their tentpoles get impacted. However, will the strike go past Smallville's point of no return?

Thats the only reason why they are going back to talks with the writers. Because the studio executives being stupid idiots thought this wouldnt effect movies in terms of scripts. But voila. The writers knew what they were doing to strike now.

Hand Duet

11-23-2007, 02:38 PM

I thought this was funnier :woot:

And how right you are! heh I have that name in a couple of other sites.
Thumb Wars rule all! :woot:

triplet

11-23-2007, 03:27 PM

Thats the only reason why they are going back to talks with the writers. Because the studio executives being stupid idiots thought this wouldnt effect movies in terms of scripts. But voila. The writers knew what they were doing to strike now.

There was another big film set to start filming in May that the script isn't finished for, I forget which one, and they don't think it'll take less than 5 weeks to tweak that.

Another thing the suits seem to have forgotten, which I believe someone has brought up here more than once, is that rewrites happen all the time during production and there is really no such thing as a "locked" script anymore.

Excrement happens and things get rewritten all the time. I'm not sure how they're going to go into producing any big film, costing over $100 mil or more, and depend on the director or actors to make any needed changes. That sounds like a train wreck waiting to happen.

It's crazy they'd risk a huge budgetted film if they could avoid it so I'm thinking they may not.

Hand Duet

11-23-2007, 03:32 PM

There was another big film set to start filming in May that the script isn't finished for, I forget which one, and they don't think it'll take less than 5 weeks to tweak that.

Another thing the suits seem to have forgotten, which I believe someone has brought up here more than once, is that rewrites happen all the time during production and there is really no such thing as a "locked" script anymore.

Excrement happens and things get rewritten all the time. I'm not sure how they're going to go into producing any big film, costing over $100 mil or more, and depend on the director or actors to make any needed changes. That sounds like a train wreck waiting to happen.

It's crazy they'd risk a huge budgetted film if they could avoid it so I'm thinking they may not.

You said it all in your sig. "Warner Brothers is Run by Idiots!" The truth is right there... :csad:

triplet

11-23-2007, 04:27 PM

You said it all in your sig. "Warner Brothers is Run by Idiots!" The truth is right there... :csad:

Yep.

That sig line has become truer with every passing day.

:(

AgentPat

11-23-2007, 04:42 PM

I thought this was funnier :woot:Fair enough. Iz hard to spell though LOL. :p

Angels and Demons, the Da Vinci Code prequel....*Whickety* *whickety* [flossing sounds] Ahhhh! Thanks. I needed that. :D

It was originally set to start filming in February, but has been delayed due to script problems.

Bond 22 has already hit a snag of some kind, right? I believe that's been delayed too....Somebody scoffed when I posted the Variety article about that, which detailed the situation. Too funny. It does put a fine point on things though, doesn't it? The disparity in reports between Variety and THR, and Clint from Moviehole and Robert from IESB, is rather humorous. That nonsensical cast list posted on the Hype's main page last week was even more hysterical.

Because of things like this, I don't think that the strike will last as long as the last one (six months) because the studios don't seem to mind TV seasons getting cut short but do seem to mind when their tentpoles get impacted.I dunno. I think both sides (TV and film) are important because there's so much cross pollination between the two. Actors and crews routinely jump between platforms, and all shingles funnel profits to the same conglomerates at the top of the food chain. Warner Bros. Entertainment, for example, owns Warner Bros. Pictures, Warner Independent Pictures, Warner Bros. Television Production, Warner Home Video, Warner Bros. Animation, and has joint ownership of The CW Television Network. All are impacted in some way by this strike, which trickles up to the moguls at the top.

However, will the strike go past Smallville's point of no return?I hope it doesn't, but something tells me it will. I don't have much faith that they will be able to resolve this issue quickly. It's too complex, and both sides don't seem willing to bend far enough to meet each other in the middle.

Will it free up Tom so he won't be hampered by Goughlar?Just for the sake of fun speculation, how exactly would that work? I mean, assuming Features lost the battle to get Welling, wouldn't they have moved onto casting another actor, and wouldn't that actor - as rumors have indicated - already be on the leash by now? Would they just boot that actor if Welling were to all of a sudden become available? Then there's the issues that were rumored to be at the heart of casting Welling in the first place, most of which had little to do with availability or interest. If G&M put up such a huge stink about letting him go the first time, would the strike really change much?

Having said all that, I do hope I'm missing something and there's more going on behind the scenes that nobody knows about. Because ultimately, Tom is my Superman, and I'd still rather see him in the role than anybody else.

If this film is nearly pure dreck like The Fog, do we really want him to be freed up just so he can add another sub-par project to his resume?The only thing that says pure dreck right now are those horrific cast lists that are going around. I'm beside myself in the thought that any of those might be legit. The "real" script excerpts/reviews sound great, and if there's a crack or two about WW's boobs, oh well LOL. I'm all for a serious approach to the story, but the movie should be fun too, so that kind of humor won't phase me at all.

But that cast? Oh my stars, NO! Just, NO!! They can't even get ONE actor right, never mind seven. Until they do, I've no interest in seeing the pic. I'd rather it just crash and burn on paper before an ounce of celluloid is shot.

I guess only time will tell on all accounts.My money is still on it not happening, but I do hope they can pull a rabbit out of hat and make it work regardless.

OobeDoobBenubi

11-23-2007, 05:10 PM

In my opinion if the WB really wanted Tom Welling in this movie then they would have given Bastard & Butch anything they wanted & they would if they had to write Clark out of the show like he gets trapped somewhere & the show becomes Oliverville or Karaville while Tom films Justice League. We keep hearing how Tom Welling has always been the WBs #1 choice but to me it seems like they are not doing enough to secure him. Going by what Jack Mercy & Zing has said they did indeed ask him but they are not doing everything & anything they can to get him. At least there are more people out there that can be even more hated then Singer.

Zorex

11-23-2007, 05:47 PM

Routh wasnt Superman...

I disagree.

Nothing else! Just thought I'd post this, if you're gonna post that.

triplet

11-23-2007, 06:10 PM

*Whickety* *whickety* [flossing sounds] Ahhhh! Thanks. I needed that. :D

:D

You're welcome.

Somebody scoffed when I posted the Variety article about that, which detailed the situation. Too funny. It does put a fine point on things though, doesn't it? The disparity in reports between Variety and THR, and Clint from Moviehole and Robert from IESB, is rather humorous. That nonsensical cast list posted on the Hype's main page last week was even more hysterical.

true...

The rumors are out of control. Completely. Don't know what to believe anymore, so I'm not believing anything.

I dunno. I think both sides (TV and film) are important because there's so much cross pollination between the two. Actors and crews routinely jump between platforms, and all shingles funnel profits to the same conglomerates at the top of the food chain. Warner Bros. Entertainment, for example, owns Warner Bros. Pictures, Warner Independent Pictures, Warner Bros. Television Production, Warner Home Video, Warner Bros. Animation, and has joint ownership of The CW Television Network. All are impacted in some way by this strike, which trickles up to the moguls at the top.

Again, good points but I think it's more of a question of what they're willing to risk losing when it comes to a showdown with the writers.

They may be willing to lose TV money, but there is a lot more money at stake with the features divsions. I betcha they're not willing to lose that money and it's finally gotten them scared when script problems have side-lined at least two major films already and they're not even a month in yet.

I hope it doesn't, but something tells me it will. I don't have much faith that they will be able to resolve this issue quickly. It's too complex, and both sides don't seem willing to bend far enough to meet each other in the middle.

I have a feeling you're right about this, there is too much ground to make up so it'll be an uphill battle to reach an agreement on contract terms.

Just for the sake of fun speculation, how exactly would that work? I mean, assuming Features lost the battle to get Welling, wouldn't they have moved onto casting another actor, and wouldn't that actor - as rumors have indicated - already be on the leash by now? Would they just boot that actor if Welling were to all of a sudden become available? Then there's the issues that were rumored to be at the heart of casting Welling in the first place, most of which had little to do with availability or interest. If G&M put up such a huge stink about letting him go the first time, would the strike really change much?

Having said all that, I do hope I'm missing something and there's more going on behind the scenes that nobody knows about. Because ultimately, Tom is my Superman, and I'd still rather see him in the role than anybody else.

I don't know how that would work. Say they hired an actor who wasn't Welling, despite still wanting Tom, yet things work out that they can indeed get Tom.

They might have some sort of an out clause that could allow them to fire the first guy so they can get Tom on board.... Those rumored actors are all nobodies. The contracts wouldn't be iron-clad. There very well could be ways for the studios to get out of them if they wanted to badly enough.

Tom has enough money (and smarts) to hire shark lawyers, do you think Scott Porter does?

I'm not so sure.

The only thing that says pure dreck right now are those horrific cast lists that are going around. I'm beside myself in the thought that any of those might be legit. The "real" script excerpts/reviews sound great, and if there's a crack or two about WW's boobs, oh well LOL. I'm all for a serious approach to the story, but the movie should be fun too, so that kind of humor won't phase me at all.

But that cast? Oh my stars, NO! Just, NO!! They can't even get ONE actor right, never mind seven. Until they do, I've no interest in seeing the pic. I'd rather it just crash and burn on paper before an ounce of celluloid is shot.

My money is still on it not happening, but I do hope they can pull a rabbit out of hat and make it work regardless.

I hope they do somehow still get Tom in the film, especially if the season is cut short. The irony would just suck big time if we got a shorter season and still missed out on Tom playing Supes.

Doob if Miller casts someone other then Welling, and hires a 3rd person to play the part of Superman, and not give the fans what they want in Welling/Superman then I think we will have a man, and his casting choice who will be hated more then Singer/Routh.

Simply put for the WB if they want this movie to be a big hit they HAVE TO cast Tom Welling because after all these rumores, and false reports, and the fans having their heads F'ed with I don't think people will be to happy if someone like Scott Porter ends up playing Superman.

Not a knock on Scott who I think would be well suited for Flash or Aquaman... But he simply isn't SUPERMAN!

Routh wasnt Superman, Rupert Evans isn't Superman, Scott Porter couldn't even be Superboy!

And that DJ Cotrona is just a silly joke that shouldn't ever be repeated...

It's Tom Welling or bust... :cwink:

:up:

I'm not sure how likely it is for Tom to be cast still, but I can't fault you your enthusiasm!

:D

Docker2.0

11-23-2007, 06:46 PM

Yep.

That sig line has become truer with every passing day.

:(

Hey, do you mind if I join the bandwagon and put that in my sig as well?

triplet

11-23-2007, 07:02 PM

Hey, do you mind if I join the bandwagon and put that in my sig as well?

LOL!

Nope, the more the merrier.

It is clearly run by people whose shoe sizes are higher than their IQ's!

:up:

Hand Duet

11-23-2007, 07:03 PM

Hey, do you mind if I join the bandwagon and put that in my sig as well?

heh it's a brilliant thing to put on your sig!

Mostly because it's true!!! :woot:

TWistim

11-23-2007, 08:32 PM

When we first heard of JLA and it seemed like it would be a big-budget movie with an awesome script and an award winning director I was very excited, but as this story has unfolded, I have gotten less and less sure about it. No one would love to see him portray Superman on the big screen more than me, but if it's not going to be spectacular then I don't think it would serve his career. And as a devoted fan, I want what is best for him.

From what I am reading about this movie lately I am really glad that Tom is not going to be in it. It just doesn't seem to be the caliber of movie that we first thought it would be. He has already done the teen idol thing; it's time now for him to show us what's he's really capable of, which I believe is alot, if he is given the right story and director.

AgentPat

11-23-2007, 09:55 PM

Jayne posted over at IESB tonight. I knew when JL production was supposed to start, but I didn't know they were targeting to unspool in June...

...Justice League IS scheduled to begin production on February 11th (also confirmed with the Australian Film Commission) for a June 2009 release. They would not comment on the casting or script, but insisted it is moving forward without any delays.Hmm. Really? Oooookaaay. According to Box Office Mojo (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&date=2009-06-05&showweeks=4&p=.htm), there are currently four wide releases already scheduled for June, '09:

6/5/09
The Fast and the Furious 4 (Vin Diesel & Paul Walker)

6/12/09
Up (Disney Animation)

6/19/09
Year One (Jack Black)

6/26/09
Transformers 2 <-- Ouch. LOL

I wonder which week Warners is looking to usurp?

OobeDoobBenubi

11-23-2007, 10:13 PM

I hate to say this but The Fast & The Furious 4 will be a hit with Vin Diesel & Paul Whalker coming back

AgentPat

11-23-2007, 10:17 PM

I hate to say this but The Fast & The Furious 4 will be a hit with Vin Diesel & Paul Whalker coming backNo argument there. LOL

If Warners is planning on releasing JL anywhere near Transformers 2, however, they ARE dumber than a box of rox. Didn't they learn from that other sequel, POTC 2?

OobeDoobBenubi

11-23-2007, 10:25 PM

The Incredible Hulk

11-23-2007, 10:33 PM

It's Tom Welling or bust... :cwink:

at this point I'm going with:

http://home.comcast.net/%7Ebriteuf/superboobs.gif

bust :)

triplet

11-23-2007, 11:13 PM

at this point I'm going with:

http://home.comcast.net/%7Ebriteuf/superboobs.gif

bust :)

:confused:

That looks like a red x to me...

:ninja:

AgentPat

11-23-2007, 11:20 PM

If the strike goes on & on AgentPat they wont have to worry about Transformers 2 being done on time :o If they can come to an agreement by the end of this month with the talks starting back up on Monday then then yeah all bets are off. Lets hope the studios take Round 2 more seriously.True. And while I think they do take it seriously, I think nobody is willing to bend far enough to end it.

at this point I'm going with:

bust :)LOL! Not so fast...

Question: So who has flat out been denied as being involved?I got agents for Rupert Evans to debunk the rumors of him being Superman and agents for Ryan Reynolds confirmed what Robert said about him not being involved.

Agents for Winstead and Brody keep saying No comment . I'm still trying to reach Palmer's reps, but if you saw the copies of the emails I posted between Robert and myself, I said to him I had been told she would be Talia and sure enough, he posted last week he got confirmation on it.

And I know he's not involved but even Welling's agents still say No comment too instead of just saying he's not part of the film. Why not just confirm him being out so we can completely move on?? They almost immediately debunked the rumors when he was mentioned for Superman Returns. Why not now too?? It's just annoying.Yes, it is. (Annoying)

^ Somebody explain this to me. Anybody? WHY in goobs green earth aren't Welling's agents debunking his involvement? Huh? Huh? Somebody? Anybody? Buehler?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/anyone.gif

triplet

11-23-2007, 11:38 PM

LOL! Not so fast...

Question: So who has flat out been denied as being involved?

I got agents for Rupert Evans to debunk the rumors of him being Superman and agents for Ryan Reynolds confirmed what Robert said about him not being involved.

Agents for Winstead and Brody keep saying No comment . I'm still trying to reach Palmer's reps, but if you saw the copies of the emails I posted between Robert and myself, I said to him I had been told she would be Talia and sure enough, he posted last week he got confirmation on it.

And I know he's not involved but even Welling's agents still say No comment too instead of just saying he's not part of the film. Why not just confirm him being out so we can completely move on?? They almost immediately debunked the rumors when he was mentioned for Superman Returns. Why not now too?? It's just annoying.

Yes, it is. (Annoying)

^ Somebody explain this to me. Anybody? WHY in goobs green earth aren't Welling's agents debunking his involvement? Huh? Huh? Somebody? Anybody? Buehler?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/anyone.gif

It's crazy....

AgentPat

11-23-2007, 11:53 PM

It's crazy....No doubt!

Seriously though, is there *any* reason to not deny it? Would an NDA still be in effect two months after negotiations ended? Would there have been an NDA in place if Welling never got to sign the contract? 'Cause that's pretty much the last thing that happens before the studio blesses it, right?

I forget where I read this, but I believe this is the typical order of events:

Interested, this step may be skipped, though eventually the employer probably wants copies of the actor's press kit
'Expression of interest', including an invitation to read
Often callbacks (sometimes not)
A formal offer by the employer
Acceptance by the performer
Agent negotiations (admittedly the actor can withdraw at this point if he or the agent really has an issue with the offer (or gets a better offer), but this isn't as likely if the actor has been pursuing the part up to this point and wants to keep the future goodwill of the employer)
Issuance of the contract by the employer
Agent forwards contract to actor and he signs it, then returns it to agent
Agent returns contract to employer, employer countersigns it and sends copies to the agent. Contract is considered executed and legally binding.

triplet

11-24-2007, 12:10 AM

No doubt!

Seriously though, is there *any* reason to not deny it? Would an NDA still be in effect two months after negotiations ended? Would there have been an NDA in place if Welling never got to sign the contract? 'Cause that's pretty much the last thing that happens before the studio blesses it, right?

I forget where I read this, but I believe this is the typical order of events:

Interested, this step may be skipped, though eventually the employer probably wants copies of the actor's press kit
'Expression of interest', including an invitation to read
Often callbacks (sometimes not)
A formal offer by the employer
Acceptance by the performer
Agent negotiations (admittedly the actor can withdraw at this point if he or the agent really has an issue with the offer (or gets a better offer), but this isn't as likely if the actor has been pursuing the part up to this point and wants to keep the future goodwill of the employer)
Issuance of the contract by the employer
Agent forwards contract to actor and he signs it, then returns it to agent
Agent returns contract to employer, employer countersigns it and sends copies to the agent. Contract is considered executed and legally binding.

Why not deny it?

Are Tom's reps still jockeying for him to get the part? Is there still a chance?

Or are they just toeing the "party" line, even though there is no longer a need?

It's crazy and confusing...

:confused:

The Watchman

11-24-2007, 12:15 AM

As much as you want to see Welling as Superman in some form, do you really want him near this stinker? (Justice League)

triplet

11-24-2007, 12:24 AM

As much as you want to see Welling as Superman in some form, do you really want him near this stinker? (Justice League)

Well, that's a the question now isn't it?

From all the conflicting rumors, is it really going to be bad?

Why would they even float some of these things on purpose? I mean they're crazy...

If Tom wants to be in it and it turned out to be very bad, I would still see it but I would be saddened by the missed opportunity.

I didn't like The Fog but I saw it in the theatres twice and bought the DVD. I even saw both Cheaper films and bought the DVDs even though I didn't like those films much...

I imagine I would put a lot more of money on the line if I actually liked any film he was in.

The Watchman

11-24-2007, 12:29 AM

I've always wished I could separate him from Smallville - he's really grown into himself and I'd love to see him as Superman in some form - I just can't figure out which honestly. All things considered I would love to see another show - taking some of the elements from Smallville that work, and completely ditching those that don't, adjusting the tone, and making a kickass sci-fi show out of it. Unlikely to say the least, just my two cents. From what little I can glean about JL, it sounds mediocre at best, I love Routh, I love Tom, but they've both been involved with seriously underwhelming Superman material, it's frustrating having actors who fit the mold, but no one taking TRUE advantage of it. Ok, rant over back to your regularly scheduled programming...

AgentPat

11-24-2007, 01:15 AM

mellyM

11-24-2007, 06:01 AM

I have to agree with Triplet, Watchman. So far, the only thing that's made me cringe about JL is those godawful cast lists - and Every. Single. One. of 'em are just rumor right now. Everything else about the production seems amazing. But if they go with the kiddy casting, then yeah, forgetabowtit. LOL

Like Triplet, I saw The Fog in the theater - and I even bought the DVD. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/oopz.gif

Same goes for the CBTD films. Crazy, I know. LOL I'd do it all over again if they made a Fog 2. :eek:

But we're fans, y'know?

Now I can understand how fans wouldn't want SV to end due to Welling's involvement in a film, but that's not the situation here. I also don't think his career was negatively affected by his involvement in the CBTD films or even The Fog. Fans will go to see him in whatever film he appears, no questions asked. JL is fixing to be a huge blockbuster film - assuming it gets made of course. :p

Why wouldn't fans want to see him in something like that? It's a live action comic book film, and if Welling were cast, he'd BE Superman in the film. Sounds pretty rad to me. Unless his casting would kill SV (it wouldn't), I can't see how it wouldn't be a win/win/win situation for everybody - for Welling ($), for the studio ($$), and for the fans ( :heart: )

I think my concern is if any part of the cast list is true, it has me worried that they don't really understand the characters, and that was my huge problem with SR, it was like they didn't care who Superman was supposed to be at all. I honestly don't think Tom is doing the film, and I'm not that anxious for him to do it anymore. Why would someone make a film that big if they aren;t allowed to alter the script or have additional writer input, just doesn;t seem like a good idea. If he did it of course I;d see it. But lol, no way would I see Fog 2 or CBTD 3--though i liked the first one. If he continued making crap films, I wouldn't continue to support them, lol, love him though I do:)

The Watchman

11-24-2007, 09:24 AM

I have to agree with Triplet, Watchman. So far, the only thing that's made me cringe about JL is those godawful cast lists - and Every. Single. One. of 'em are just rumor right now. Everything else about the production seems amazing. But if they go with the kiddy casting, then yeah, forgetabowtit. LOL

Like Triplet, I saw The Fog in the theater - and I even bought the DVD. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/oopz.gif

Same goes for the CBTD films. Crazy, I know. LOL I'd do it all over again if they made a Fog 2. :eek:

But we're fans, y'know?

Now I can understand how fans wouldn't want SV to end due to Welling's involvement in a film, but that's not the situation here. I also don't think his career was negatively affected by his involvement in the CBTD films or even The Fog. Fans will go to see him in whatever film he appears, no questions asked. JL is fixing to be a huge blockbuster film - assuming it gets made of course. :p

Why wouldn't fans want to see him in something like that? It's a live action comic book film, and if Welling were cast, he'd BE Superman in the film. Sounds pretty rad to me. Unless his casting would kill SV (it wouldn't), I can't see how it wouldn't be a win/win/win situation for everybody - for Welling ($), for the studio ($$), and for the fans ( :heart: )

I guess where I'm coming from is that there's been so much build up to him actually becoming Superman that I want to see it done right.

triplet

11-24-2007, 09:26 AM

Oh, I will see everything Tom is in, good, bad or indifferent.

If he's in JL and it sucks even worse than the Fog, I will still see it.

ZIPBAGS

11-24-2007, 10:12 AM

See I look at Welling differently. I think of him as Superman not Smallville. When I see him in CBTD or the Fog. I see Supes. So even if he appears without the other Smallville cast. I can seperate it.

TWistim

11-24-2007, 10:54 AM

In Hollywood I have heard it said that you are only as good as your last film. Tom's CBTD movies were light-hearted fun but nothing to rave about. I saw both and bought both just because he was in them. I bought The Fog and as hot as he was in it the movie was crap. His acting was also not impressive in it. He himself said he did The Fog in a fog. This was not a wise career move IMO.

This JLA movie sounds like a Fantastic4 type movie to me at best. It will probably make money and if Tom were in it I would watch it and buy it but I don't think it would do much for his career. Tom strikes me as the type of actor who takes his craft seriously. I think he took the Fog because he thought it possibly had potential and it was doable on his tight schedule but I think he learned a lesson and is going to choose his next film carefully. At least, I hope so! Of course this is all just speculation on my part, but I want to see him make movies that mean something and that he can be proud of. Another big budget F4 or SR2 does not fit that bill.

The shooting schedule on SV is tight and there are so many elements that go into making the show (the elaborate sets, the action sequences, special effects, etc.) that I don't always think the actors are given the time they need to do a scene justice. Still we have seen some incredible work from all the major stars on it. I have seen enough to make me think if Tom got a great role and had the right direction and the opportunity to really stretch himself he could rise to it. I want him to get that chance but if he doesn't choose his next movie wisely he may never be taken seriously for those kinds of roles. He already has "the pretty face" syndrome working against him.

In regard to his agents saying "No comment," I think they don't want to answer all the other questions that would follow. Was Tom approached? What was the hold-up? Doesn't he want to be Superman? etc. A "no comment" stops any further discussion.

Serene

11-24-2007, 11:40 AM

I guess where I'm coming from is that there's been so much build up to him actually becoming Superman that I want to see it done right.

Well, I think that's a given for anyone who likes either Tom or Superman. But what constitutes "right" is always going to be point of contention. Consider the people who thought SR was the best Superman movie they've ever seen -- I'm not bashing them, even though I strongly disagree -- but I'm pointing out that they do exist.

I do agree with the majority about what we've heard so far regarding this film, but I also think we've been fooled before (like 500 times :mad:) so I'm just making popcorn and enjoying the company at this point.
I've always wished I could separate him from Smallville

No matter what happens with the JL movie, I'm more than satisfied that we've had Tom's incarnation of CK/:supes: for as long as we have. SV may not be perfect (as indicated by the "Worst episodes" thread. ;)) but it's been a key factor in keeping the legend alive in the minds of the general and international public for a long damn time. If it ends up that SV is all we ever get of Tom as Supes, I'm good.

Btw...It's great to see you pop up again, Watchman. :heart:

AgentPat

11-24-2007, 01:02 PM

There's quite a few different ways to look at the big picture here. The CBTD movies may not have been anything to write home about, but listen to the commentary track on Exile. Beeman said Welling came back from the summer hiatus having upped his game immensely. That was after the first CBTD flick. They said they threw stuff at Welling in S3 that they *never* could have done in the first or even second seasons. He learns, and he learns quickly.

Welling doesn't have the cachet that Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt have right now, however. He doesn't have the luxury of sitting on his hands waiting for that perfect role to land on his agent's desk. If a big role comes along and he can do it, it's within his best interests to take it. Doing so can lead to having greater freedom of choice down the road. There's no experience to be had by turning roles down either. Welling's the kind of actor who doesn't let any grass grow under his feet. He was the first to direct an episode of SV. This is a guy that was modeling less than ten years ago.

As to career moves, networking in Hollywood is just as important as experience. So is becoming a bankable name. The CBTD films got him exposure beyond SV's comic and sci-fi genre's fanbase, and both films were extremely profitable on domestic ticket sales alone. The Fog was panned by critics, but it made back its production budget in domestic B.O. in nine days. NINE days. Sony was pleased. And that was Welling's first film as the headlining star.

Last but not least, if there's one character Welling knows inside and out, it's Clark Kent. This may just be my opinion folks, but I think the bar is raised for any Superman film just by Welling's casting alone, 'cause Clark Kent IS Superman! :p

Whiteflag

11-24-2007, 01:54 PM

Oh, I will see everything Tom is in, good, bad or indifferent.

If he's in JL and it sucks even worse than the Fog, I will still see it.

Same here! :up:

And I will buy the DVDs. :woot:

The Incredible Hulk

11-24-2007, 05:39 PM

:confused:

That looks like a red x to me...

:ninja:

you cant see my superboobs? :confused:

Billy Batson

11-24-2007, 06:42 PM

you cant see my superboobs? :confused:

I see your superboobs. yum! yum! :cwink:

Serene

11-24-2007, 10:49 PM

^And you wonder why my Ignore list is so long. :ninja:

AgentPat

11-24-2007, 10:55 PM

LOL! :D

Quick, somebody change the subject!!!

Hey, check out the new table napkin rings I got. They're an awesome shade of blue...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/blue2.jpg

Serene

11-25-2007, 12:26 AM

Hey, check out the new table napkin rings I got. They're an awesome shade of blue...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/blue2.jpg

Napkins? Pfft. You could stick the whole damn tablecloth through that sucker.

:hyper: :cwink: :woot: :heart:

Whiteflag

11-25-2007, 05:04 AM

Napkins? Pfft. You could stick the whole damn tablecloth through that sucker.

:hyper: :cwink: :woot: :heart:

lol

I love Tom's big beautiful hands!:heart:

AgentPat

11-25-2007, 05:34 PM

*poof*

Day-um! :eek:

Whiteflag

11-25-2007, 05:39 PM

*poof*

Day-um! :eek:

:huh: :huh:

AgentPat

11-25-2007, 06:19 PM

:huh: :huh:A few posts were deleted, and a user was banned. :ninja:

Whiteflag

11-25-2007, 06:37 PM

A few posts were deleted, and a user was banned. :ninja:

I see. Thanks.

Prison Mike

11-25-2007, 06:48 PM

A few posts were deleted, and a user was banned. :ninja:

Interesting...:ninja:

AgentPat

11-25-2007, 06:52 PM

Any wonder why Serene and I tried to change the subject? LOL

Moving on....

Hey Whiteflag, I've got some new caps from Exodus I'll be posting in the TW thread shortly. Keep an eye open for 'em. I KNOW you'll love 'em. :D

TheLongestDay

11-25-2007, 07:04 PM

A few posts were deleted, and a user was banned. :ninja:

how come?

The Incredible Hulk

11-25-2007, 07:04 PM

anyone we know?

Gmanofsteel

11-25-2007, 09:20 PM

*pats self down*

Wasn't me, I'm good :p

Whiteflag

11-26-2007, 09:34 AM

AgentPat

11-26-2007, 12:57 PM

In regards to JL, this is kind of interesting...

11/26/07
TV Guide News
by Rich Sands

Following visits by Superman, Green Arrow and the Flash earlier this fall, Green Lantern is the next super-friend to guest-star on the CW's Saturday-morning serial The Batman. Dermot Mulroney (My Best Friend's Wedding) will voice the hero who shows up in the Dec. 8 episode to enlist the Caped Crusader's help in battling arch-nemesis Sinestro.

Mulroney has deep ties to these superheroes. His brother and sister-in-law, Kieran and Michelle Mulroney, penned the upcoming live-action film Justice League of America, which includes Batman and Green Lantern. "Kieran and I grew up reading DC Comics," Mulroney says. "We had a whole system where, once a week, we'd take a trip to the little store that sold the comics. I have a couple of brothers, and we'd fight over who got which issue. There's a long history of comics in the family."

There are many different Green Lanterns in comic lore, but the version Mulroney plays is perhaps the most iconic: test pilot Hal Jordan, who has a somewhat uneasy relationship with the Bat. "I really liked the dynamic between them," Mulroney says. "They're fighting for the same cause, but there are some personality conflicts. That was a fun part to play."

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Exclusive-Batman-Nabs/800028237So the Mulroneys have quite a comic history under their belt, which lends credence to the assertion that the JL script might indeed be pretty damn good.

I'm so torn on this. How can everything look so amazing - only to get knee-capped by such a horrific (rumored) cast? *sigh*

As a side-note, I guess the Hal Jordan/Green Lantern appearance on The Batman rules out GL's appearance in SV. For now...

Superman_

11-26-2007, 01:41 PM

It was ruled out when the WB released that they are doing a GL movie staring Hal Jordan. The only person SV will more then likely be able to have is Allen. Because if they are in fact using Hal for the movie then Kyle will more then likely be used as well. But given the way SV does things the person they will more then likely use even before Allen is Guy.

TheComicbookKid

11-26-2007, 01:42 PM

Wow. The WB might have the perfect script.

AgentPat

11-26-2007, 02:00 PM

Wow. The WB might have the perfect script.That's what I was thinking.

Now they just have to get the goddamn CAST right. LOL But all reports (starting with Hollywood Reporter's audition list) seem to indicate they're gonna fail miserably on that. *big sigh*

EDIT: Oh, and BTW... "new" rumors at IESB. Heh. Oh boy...

Prison Mike

11-26-2007, 02:10 PM

why, what are the new rumors? Will a fetus be playing Superman? lol

Superman_

11-26-2007, 02:14 PM

Nothing more but that a big meeting took place at the CW at one of their flagship shows. As I said before I want to see Welling as Superman as much as the next person but you guys are getting your hopes up way to much. If Welling does happen to land the role of Superman for JLA then thats great if not I don't care. But I am not going to get my hopes up anymore only to be let down. Because big meeting could mean many things and some not very good.

triplet

11-26-2007, 02:25 PM

why, what are the new rumors? Will a fetus be playing Superman? lol

Here's the page:

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&catid=20&id=5449#5449

...where emijayne said this:

According to people in Governor Arnie's office, he is the one that has been leading those "backchannel" talks. He came out after the strike started and guaranteed he would bring both sides back to the table and sure enough both sides are meeting. The rest of that person's blog does match up with one of my earlier posts that both sides have made big concessions and the strike should end very soon. So I'm guessing what has been trickling down through the ranks must be true.

BTW...I've been told that regardless of the strike ending, Smallville has been set for the cliffhanger we heard about for February. My question is why would they do that if the writers are back to work?? It's not the only show still ending early, so I don't want anyone to think I'm pointing out something significant, but it seems stupid to me to end any show if there's no longer a strike.

Another poster, storm, said this:

To piggyback on Emi...and let me be very clear...I don't know sqaut about how TV or the movie industry works..but I do have an old friend that works at CW (kind of like those friends you email once a year). He is not "in the know" but has significant access to someone who is...)as you can see you better take this for what it is worth).

Here is the story he gave me permission to post. About a month ago a big meeting at CW took place in regards to "a flagship show". The show schedule was adjusted ...the cover being the strike...but the schedule was going to be shortened regardless. My friends contact will not even tell him the reason but has been led to believe it was over "casting issues" --strange for a show with actors under contract I would think.

For those of you who enjoy rumors I think that is a good one. He gave me permission to post it yesterday.

Interesting, if any of this is true....

Prison Mike

11-26-2007, 02:32 PM

triplet

11-26-2007, 02:37 PM

So Smallville will still end in February even if the strike is resolved? That sucks. They better announce the cast of this movie very soon otherwise this rumor business will keep going on and on and on...

Well, for the Heroes promos it sounds like they're done. They keep saying only three episodes left, etc...

I wonder if all the shows stopping production even if the strike ends early for some other reason. It may not be to free Tom up.

The studios and networks could be looking to cut costs or something, but many shows are ending soon (the next couple of weeks) and don't have enough episodes shot to get them to the vital February sweeps period. So, I'm not sure of the logic of cutting seasons short if the writers are no longer on strike

:confused:

I'm majorly confuzzled.

:confused:

Docker2.0

11-26-2007, 03:53 PM

phil

11-26-2007, 04:15 PM

Despite what's said and done............................I think Tom will be in it. Do I want Tom in it? For awhile I was begging him to be in it, but then I thought about it................dude is going to really be typecast! His only major roles will be Superman related. His other movies were kind of lame, kind of like the late Reeves. I don't know, I feel kind of bad for him. Truth is, I think the WB up the money on him for him to accept it.

Typecast? why? it's not like it was many years ago. Plus there was just another Superman on the big screen. Adam West was typecast but were any of the other actors who played a far superior Batman typecast?
Hollywood is so different in today's world. Plus being typecast wouldn't be such a bad thing if you made enough money to set your life up a few times over.

Docker2.0

11-26-2007, 04:24 PM

For the past 6 years he's been Superman in some form. He's known as "that guy on Smallville" and him playing Supes will lock him in definetly. He's had other films but those films pale in comparison to his Smallville fame. If he does play Supes in the JLA movie, then Routh's goose is cooked! He leads in all the polls as the fan favorite and even though Routh did a good job in that boring arse movie that Singer made, then Welling will have beat him 2/3 for the title of Superman. I don't know. I hope he gets the part but......................he probably will be typecast!

Webhead2006

11-26-2007, 05:10 PM

So i was asking this over in the strike thread, I did read those post reguarding what i am asking on the iesb board a little while ago. If the strike did end this week or within the next week or two the season will still end at 15? if the strike is over by then wouldnt there be plently of time to get the scripts written for the remaining 7 episodes of the season. They normally end production on a season around march right so why if the strike did end now they wouldnt be able to get the scripts written. I really would hate to see the season lose those 7 remaining episodes there is so much more they could be doing for the season and all that. I do know they are probably working on episode 13 now right? and they still havent shut down production for smallville cause they have 2 or 3 more episodes to film but really if the strike did end now wouldnt they have the time to write the rest of the season scripts and continue production on the show?

TheComicbookKid

11-26-2007, 08:15 PM

Does this mean Rosenbaum and Mack would have to do an another season?

Mikelus

11-26-2007, 09:05 PM

Does this mean Rosenbaum and Mack would have to do an another season?

I think we can bet on it, they have to finish their storylines properly, I don't think 15 episodes would do it, time will tell as always. ;)
Until we don't get confirmation by a good source, like Craig for example, I'm not going to give too much credit to the rumors.

Webhead2006

11-26-2007, 10:11 PM

Yea i hope if the strike ends soon they can still work on writting the 7 remaining scripts and produce them. I dont really see why if the strike ends this week, next week, or the following week they could still have plently of time to work on more scripts and still produce them. I would really hate to see the season end at ep 15 if the strike did end now and they have time to produce more scripts. If not then i hope the 7 episodes not going to be seen gets added to the the order count for next season.

triplet

11-26-2007, 10:16 PM

The Incredible Hulk

11-26-2007, 10:20 PM

I dont want another season past the 7 episodes they might miss this season. I dont want to see the show diluted and stretched out any further. It's time to let go.

Webhead2006

11-26-2007, 10:20 PM

Yea if the season does really end at episdoe 15 even if the strike ends now and they could do more and dont they really should add the 7 missing season 7 episodes to the season 8 order. Hopefully if the season does end at episode 15 the do add the episodes to next season. it would be sweet to see a 29 episode order instead of a 22 episode order we have had. Hopefully we hear something soon on this.

Webhead2006

11-26-2007, 10:23 PM

I dont want another season past the 7 episodes they might miss this season. I dont want to see the show diluted and stretched out any further. It's time to let go.
why would u want to see season 8 be the 7 missing season seven episodes only? there is so many things they could go about doing they havent done.

AgentPat

11-26-2007, 11:25 PM

...it would be sweet to see a 29 episode order instead of a 22 episode order we have had.That won't happen. The best we could hope for is that they'd roll over some of the lost budget from this season's eps into next season, though even that's a stretch. CW would write this season off and Warner TV would be within their legal right to "force" those actors not contracted for S8 to return for the minimum episode contract agreed to for S7, assuming CW renewed the show. This doesn't apply to Welling, Glover or Durance however since they were already signed for S8 and have to return regardless.

If any of these new rumors are true, then the decision has already been made and S7 will be 15 episodes long - and that's it. End of story. That decision may or may not have anything to do w/ JL, however. My money's on the latter.

KBX

11-26-2007, 11:30 PM

In regards to JL, this is kind of interesting...

So the Mulroneys have quite a comic history under their belt, which lends credence to the assertion that the JL script might indeed be pretty damn good.

I'm so torn on this. How can everything look so amazing - only to get knee-capped by such a horrific (rumored) cast? *sigh*

As a side-note, I guess the Hal Jordan/Green Lantern appearance on The Batman rules out GL's appearance in SV. For now...

Good writers who know what their doing? Check
Good script? Check
Good producers? Check
Good director? Check

For whats it worth, the only things that has been confirmed, the WB has done a pretty good job. Now those Rumor cast are simply as that. What 4-5 names we haven't even mentioned came out of the blue.

So because Hal is being used on a cartoon, they can't have him for Smallville? are you serious? Well since John is the GL in JLA, I guess we can settle for Kyle...

AgentPat

11-26-2007, 11:55 PM

Good writers who know what their doing? Check
Good script? Check
Good producers? Check
Good director? Check

For whats it worth, the only things that has been confirmed, the WB has done a pretty good job. Now those Rumor cast are simply as that. What 4-5 names we haven't even mentioned came out of the blue.I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the various cast lists we've seen are a big joke, but I doubt it.

So because Hal is being used on a cartoon, they can't have him for Smallville? are you serious?Yeah! I was having a conversation with somebody in the Supes' forums a month or two ago and they pointed out that Flash (Barry, Bart, Impulse - whatever) was prevented from showing up on one of the cartoons because he was on SV. Apparently, it's not a rights issue or anything like that, it's just DC not wanting to overuse the character in multiple platforms. Something along those lines. I wish I could remember who I was talking to, but he was pretty informed on the matter. *shrugs*

Well since John is the GL in JLA, I guess we can settle for Kyle...I dunno. To the general public watching SV, "Flash" is this guy who can run re-heeeeely fast. General audience viewers don't give a squat what his name is - they still think of him as "Flash." Same goes for Green Lantern, though I think he's more in MM's territory - not very well known. Let me be very clear on this - because I'm SURE somebody will come in and chastise me for comments about people not knowing GL, MM or any of the other more obscure DC heroes - I'm talking GENERAL AUDIENCE here. My first introduction to Flash having multiple names was in the movie "Catch Me if you Can." I kid you not. I'm a Smallville & Superman fan only. So I can speak from the ignorant general audience POV since I'm one of them. LOL

KBX

11-27-2007, 12:07 AM

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the various cast lists we've seen are a big joke, but I doubt it.

Im pretty confident they are just simply a joke, with maybe 1 or 2 names that are right.

Yeah! I was having a conversation with somebody in the Supes' forums a month or two ago and they pointed out that Flash (Barry, Bart, Impulse - whatever) was prevented from showing up on one of the cartoons because he was on SV. Apparently, it's not a rights issue or anything like that, it's just DC not wanting to overuse the character in multiple platforms. Something along those lines. I wish I could remember who I was talking to, but he was pretty informed on the matter. *shrugs*

When I think about it, JL season 3 did not us the Flash once. Not once, so you may be right. Then recently didn't we have a Superman on The Batman, 2 Superman on Legion of Superheroes, The death of Superman: Doomsday, and the upcoming JL: New Frontier.... so apparently if its cartoon, they can use them anywhere.

I dunno. To the general public watching SV, "Flash" is this guy who can run re-heeeeely fast. General audience viewers don't give a squat what his name is - they still think of him as "Flash." Same goes for Green Lantern, though I think he's more in MM's territory - not very well known. Let me be very clear on this - because I'm SURE somebody will come in and chastise me for comments about people not knowing GL, MM or any of the other more obscure DC heroes - I'm talking GENERAL AUDIENCE here. My first introduction to Flash having multiple names was in the movie "Catch Me if you Can." I kid you not. I'm a Smallville & Superman fan only. So I can speak from the ignorant general audience POV since I'm one of them. LOL

No probs, Im a DC guy so I like Supes as much as any obsure DC hero. And thats why I want this movie to get made. the General Audience only knows 3 Superheroes from the WB. Batman, Superman and to a lesser extent Wonder Woman..... sigh... I pray for the WB to get this right...

AgentPat

11-27-2007, 12:30 AM

Im pretty confident they are just simply a joke, with maybe 1 or 2 names that are right.From your lips to Warner's ears. I hope you're right.

When I think about it, JL season 3 did not us the Flash once. Not once, so you may be right.I think that's the show he mentioned, but I'm not positive. I tried to find my post but it was quite a while ago, and searching for "Flash" didn't work. I might not have used the name in my post. Oh well. If the guy reads this forum, maybe he'll remember the conversation and pipe in.

Then recently didn't we have a Superman on The Batman, 2 Superman on Legion of Superheroes, The death of Superman: Doomsday, and the upcoming JL: New Frontier.... so apparently if its cartoon, they can use them anywhere.That's Superman. Maybe the Supes' mythos is different? When SR was in theaters, we had how many Clark Kents in the spotlight concurrently? At least three, right? ;)

No probs, Im a DC guy so I like Supes as much as any obsure DC hero. And thats why I want this movie to get made. the General Audience only knows 3 Superheroes from the WB. Batman, Superman and to a lesser extent Wonder Woman..... sigh... I pray for the WB to get this right...Ah, THANK YOU for understanding. The general perception I've come to see on comic boards is that gen. auds. knows the characters - that they'd know the difference between John Smith and Frank Jones, and that Smith was black and Jones was white, and that Smith was older and Jones was younger, and that Smith's costume was more chartreuse than Jones' costume... LOL. You get the picture. These are details known only to fanboys/girls. Gertrude from East Oshkosh Wisconsin is probably clueless, and her money is just as green as ours. :p

triplet

11-27-2007, 03:09 PM

Okay, this is ADORABLE!

From emijayne on IESB:

Santa was at a local mall yesterday and I told him I wanted Welling as Superman for Christmas. He just laughed and gave me a candycane.

:D

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&id=5498&catid=20&limit=6&limitstart=882#5494

spark627

11-27-2007, 04:43 PM

Okay, this is ADORABLE!

From emijayne on IESB:

:D

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&id=5498&catid=20&limit=6&limitstart=882#5494

I would give up presents for the rest of my life if Tom was under my tree!

TWistim

11-27-2007, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by triplet
Okay, this is ADORABLE!

From emijayne on IESB:

Quote:
Originally Posted by emijayne
Santa was at a local mall yesterday and I told him I wanted Welling as Superman for Christmas. He just laughed and gave me a candycane.

Maybe we could start an "All I want for Christmas" campaign! :woot:

Whiteflag

11-27-2007, 05:04 PM

Maybe we could start an "All I want for Christmas" campaign! :woot:

Count me in! :woot:

Prison Mike

11-27-2007, 05:07 PM

I'd rather get an X-Box 360

triplet

11-27-2007, 07:43 PM

I would give up presents for the rest of my life if Tom was under my tree!

LOL!

:up:

Yep, I agree although that's not what emi was asking for....

Maybe we could start an "All I want for Christmas" campaign! :woot:

LOL!

:D

Count me in! :woot:

Me too.

Gmanofsteel

11-27-2007, 08:03 PM

^ me three!

avidreader

11-27-2007, 09:09 PM

Oh, okay..... me four. :O

:D

AgentPat

11-28-2007, 12:30 AM

I wonder if Greg "I'm-so-confused" Noveck ever read the replies to his interview on Voices from Krypton from this past October? He had a lot to say, but it seems most people focused on one point - the TW/JL disavowal - and bit into it like a pack of wolves...

http://www.voicesfromkrypton.com/2007/10/exclusive-grego.html#comments

^ I read stuff like that and have to wonder if any of it gets funneled through the corporate BS to land on the desk(s) of those that care? Or is the Internet still summarily dismissed as unimportant commentary from people with too much time on their hands?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ohwell.gif

Kalleo

11-28-2007, 08:06 AM

I'd rather get an X-Box 360

Nintendo Wii is on my list to find but other than that I would take TW as Supes for X-mas.

Antonello Blueberry

11-28-2007, 08:25 AM

^ I read stuff like that and have to wonder if any of it gets funneled through the corporate BS to land on the desk(s) of those that care? Or is the Internet still summarily dismissed as unimportant commentary from people with too much time on their hands?

Internet is just that, with a lot of free porn too.

Prison Mike

11-28-2007, 09:28 AM

^but it comes with a lot of pop ups. lol

Showtime

11-28-2007, 11:01 AM

Studios, Directors, Producers, and Writers use the internet as a research tool, this includes blogs and forums. This gives them a sampling of public interest in a project, this is why you see so many polls on alot of these big entertainment sites, they are there for a reason. I wouldn't underestimate the importance of the internet when it comes to studio projects.

That being said, this all comes down to money for WB as a whole. The questions with Tom Welling and Smallville are many. I think some at WB want it both ways, they want to continue Smallville into an 8th season with Welling and a budding Supergirl while casting a new Superman for JLA. Cake and eat it too. Others most likely want to see Welling continuing on to JLA while bringing the Smallville fanbase with them.

Who will win? Nobody knows?

When BS crashed BR's party with the power of flight do you think AH even noticed? Was there icy glares across the buffet table or celebrating at the champagne fountain? Was TW in the City of Angels getting fitted for new tights? We'll all find out soon.

Gossip Show
XOXO

Zorex

11-28-2007, 11:06 AM

AH... I have no idea who that is s'posed to be. And, for some reason (possibly being the morning hour), I absolutely need to know.

ZIPBAGS

11-28-2007, 11:17 AM