Tom Welling as Superman

[ROOR]

LOL!!

He's doing that other CW show, Gossip Girl. My sister watches it and they have this annoying narrator who talks just like that, and then signs off with an xoxo from Gossip girl. Seriously, Showtime, that was hilarious. People at work are wondering what's going on over here.

[RakuMon]

AH... I have no idea who that is s'posed to be. And, for some reason (possibly being the morning hour), I absolutely need to know.

AH=Alan Horn

[Superman_]

Studios, Directors, Producers, and Writers use the internet as a research tool, this includes blogs and forums. This gives them a sampling of public interest in a project, this is why you see so many polls on alot of these big entertainment sites, they are there for a reason. I wouldn't underestimate the importance of the internet when it comes to studio projects.

That being said, this all comes down to money for WB as a whole. The questions with Tom Welling and Smallville are many. I think some at WB want it both ways, they want to continue Smallville into an 8th season with Welling and a budding Supergirl while casting a new Superman for JLA. Cake and eat it too. Others most likely want to see Welling continuing on to JLA while bringing the Smallville fanbase with them.

Who will win? Nobody knows?

When BS crashed BR's party with the power of flight do you think AH even noticed? Was there icy glares across the buffet table or celebrating at the champagne fountain? Was TW in the City of Angels getting fitted for new tights? We'll all find out soon.

Gossip Show
XOXO

LOL and with this post Showtime gives SV fans more hope.

[AgentPat]

Upon further reflection, there may be something to this rumor about SV bailing on the last seven episodes for this season. Remember the meeting at the CW offices that supposedly took place last month? The WGA strike was supposed to be the excuse for why SV wasn't going to finish out the season. This is probably more than just a cover story, though it DOES give all interested parties a "get out of your bald faced lie" free card if Welling were cast in JL, because they could say the strike made it all possible when it wasn't possible before.

As posted by TravisYanan @ pifeedback, look at the November sweeps data so far:

nights nights
demo demo demo % won won
Rank web 2007 2006 chg 2007 2006
1 ABC 3.67 4.09 -10% 10 14
2 CBS 3.33 3.69 -10% 10 7
3 NBC 3.23 3.74 -13% 3 6
4 FOX 3.05 2.92 5% 6 2
5 CW 1.07 1.43 -25%
6 MNT 0.43 0.34 27%
total 14.78 16.21 -9% 29 29

nights nights
HH HH HH HH won won
rank web 2007 2006 chg 2007 2006
1 CBS 7.6 8.2 -8% 15 18
2 ABC 7.5 7.4 1% 8 8
3 NBC 5.3 6.7 -20% 2 2
4 FOX 4.8 4.5 5% 2
5 CW 1.7 2.3 -22%
6 MNT 0.7 0.6 17%
total 27.6 29.7 -7% 27 28

nights nights
viewers viewers viewers viewers won won
rank web 2007 2006 chg 2007 2006
1 CBS 11.893 12.810 -7% 14 15
2 ABC 11.516 11.622 -1% 10 9
3 NBC 8.532 10.303 -17% 1 3
4 FOX 7.742 7.174 8% 2
5 CW 2.690 3.489 -23%
6 MNT 1.036 0.828 25%
total 43.41 46.23 -6% 27 27

^ CW dropped 25% in key demos, 22% in households, and 23% in overall viewership between '06 and '07. That's a LOT, folks!!!

Here's an excerpt from a recent article in Variety:

Variety
11/21/07

In 1988, a writers strike helped steer viewers to the fledgling Fox network. Now, the 2007 scribe shutdown could give another upstart, the CW, a needed boost.

With a large slate of reality shows ready to bow, CW is well-positioned to weather the drought of scripted fare about to hit Hollywood. Just as the 1988 reruns on other broadcasters gave a boost to Fox’s then-new (and now 20-year franchises) “America’s Most Wanted” and “Cops,” CW is counting on a flurry of new reality shows to take hold once scripted series go on hiatus (or into repeats).

What’s more, because CW scripted programs draw fewer eyeballs than those on the big networks, a strike could give auds an incentive to check out repeats of the weblet’s dramas and comedies. After all, it’s not a rerun if you never watched the show in the first place.

“I definitely think it can work in our favor,” says CW topper Dawn Ostroff, who’s still quick to express her belief that “a long strike is not good for anybody,” as well as her preference that scripted shows return ASAP.

That said, if a strike lingers, “People will have the opportunity to check out our programming,” Ostroff admits. “And because we do have a lot of reality, we’re going to have a lot of original programming on the air.”

But even if a deal is made and writers head back to work, the CW is poised to improve its fortunes this midseason.

[snip]

Now the CW is betting it can build on its minor triumphs of the fall by balancing costly scripted series with a heavy dose of unscripted product.

Even before the strike threatened to shut off the supply of sitcoms and dramas, CW execs had been planning to power through the rest of the season with a schedule bursting at the seams with reality.

The parade of unscripted programming begins Dec. 12 with the premiere of “Crowned,” a mother-daughter beauty pageant that will get a cable-style saturation launch. In a bid to make sure viewers sample the show at a time when holiday distractions abound, the net plans to air each episode of the show no less than three times per week.

Also in the pipeline: A relationship show called “Farmer Wants a Wife,” as well as a second season of the music-themed “The Pussycat Dolls Present.”

The net’s biggest hits, “America’s Next Top Model,” and another reality success, “Beauty and the Geek,” will return with new cycles later in winter.

“It’s smart programming,” one industry observer says of CW’s strategy. “The top shows on the network are reality. So the logical thing to do is to invest in the genre that’s performing the best.”

[snip]

Cherry-picking the best programming from the WB and UPN, the CW’s ratings were supposed to be higher than its predecessors. They’re not.

The owners also said they believed the CW would be profitable almost immediately. It hasn’t been.

[snip]

The CW also gives the otherwise non-network aligned Warner Bros. TV an outlet for its shows (which, granted, it must share with CBS Paramount Network TV), and it gives the Eye’s reality machine another, younger-skewing outlet to play with.

What’s more, both Time Warner and CBS only have to shoulder half of the netlet’s losses — but as a trade-off, they control broadcast network primetime shelf space, which is still a valuable commodity (and perhaps even more so in this fragmented marketplace).

With such an incomplete report card, it’s difficult to determine where the CW should be focusing most of its development energies.

More sudsy dramas? Quirky hour-long comedies like “Reaper”? Lots and lots of reality fare?

Hedging its bets, the CW has developed a little something of everything for 2008.

“There’s a really good balance of shows in development with a lot of different ideas,” Ostroff says. “We have to be prepared to go every which way.”

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117976403It doesn't take an Einstein to add up this math.

Other tid-bits from the "In the News" section of this week's Variety, Warners has nixed a February production start for Johnny Depp starrer "Shantaram" because scripts weren't ready dud ot the WGA strike. Other postponed pics are Weinstein C.'s musical "Nine," Ron Howard-directed "Angels & Demons," and United Artists' "Pinkville." Jennifer Garners is in final negotiations to star with Ricky Gervais in "This Side of Truth, and Bruce Willis is set to star in Disney's sci-fi thriller, "The Surrogates," to be directed by Jonathan Mostow. The studio is looking at a February production start date on Surrogates.

So it's interesting to see how the WGA strike has affected various studios and productions in various ways - some positive, some negative, and some seemingly not at all.

And finally, Warners announced on Monday that current president of production Jeff Robinov will become president of the newly formed Warner Bros. Pictures Group in January, adding oversight of worldwide marketing and distribution to his purview while continuing to oversee production for all studio releases.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117976528

Robinov announced the Mulroneys back in February and said, "The Justice League of America has been a perennial favorite for generations of fans, and we believe their appeal to film audiences will be as strong and diverse as the characters themselves." Overseeing JL is Dan Lin, Senior Vice President of Production, who reports to Robinov.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117960018

But wait, it gets better. Remember Mr. I'm so Confused? When Greg Noveck was hired back in 2003, his mandate was "to push DC Comics characters beyond initial successes like TV's 'Smallville' and Cartoon Network's 'Justice League' and delve into the myriad characters -- some cult, some mainstream -- to make a variety of pics at different pricepoints, just as arch-rival Marvel Comics has done with low-budget 'The Punisher' at Artisan and pricey 'Hulk' at Universal.

"The DC characters have long been stars in media beyond comic books, from the blockbuster 'Superman' and 'Batman' films to hit television series and cartoons," said Paul Levitz, president of DC Comics. "By adding Gregory in this post, we will be able to bring more of our library to life. With his background in development and production, as well as the relationships he's established, he's the ideal person to push our development activities into a higher gear."

"Creatively, we have barely scratched the surface of DC."
- Jeff Robinov

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117896919

Some of this is "old" news, but it's interesting to see how things might be coming together in retrospect, not to mention how they all seem to be in bed with each other. LOL :p

[Docker2.0]

I remember when they hired Greg, he was compared to Avi and even called "DC's Avi Arad".............but the dude hasn't done squat! We still only get Batman and Superman movies. That's no different than what it was before he was hired. They greenlit almost even hero that DC has published but haven't done anything to get them on film.

I know this is off topic but if a WW film is made, it will bomb big time! :o I won't say why but if someone ask, I'll say it. ;p

[ZIPBAGS]

LOL!!

He's doing that other CW show, Gossip Girl. My sister watches it and they have this annoying narrator who talks just like that, and then signs off with an xoxo from Gossip girl. Seriously, Showtime, that was hilarious. People at work are wondering what's going on over here.


I don't know what's worse. The fact that I fell for the joke...Or the fact you guys watch Gossip Girl. :oldrazz: :cwink:

[AgentPat]

I know this is off topic but if a WW film is made, it will bomb big time! :o I won't say why but if someone ask, I'll say it. ;pI'll take "auds aren't really interested in female superhero films" for 200, Alex. LOL

And yeah, we are off topic, but I'll say this much: the script synop for that WW2-set Wonder Woman film sounded amazing, and I'm one of those people who probably wouldn't see a WW film unless Superman was in it. ;)


ZIPBAGS - the fact they watch Gossip Girl. [insert rolly eyes here] LOL!! :p

[Docker2.0]

That Agent................plus WW really isn't as popular as WB/DC makes people to believe. She had a tv show but people really don't know a thing about her at all! They were more interested in Linda Carter than her. She lost to Storm in a popularity contest in the 90s and nothing has been done since then to improve it. Heck, Storm has been in 3 movies since then. WW is constantly being brought up as part of the big 3 for DC but honestly, I think Flash, Aquaman and even GL has passed her in terms of popularity. If any of the 3 mentioned(except maybe Aquaman)had a movie, they'd probably be a blockbuster depending on the script becuase they are well known. But if WW had a good script and even good actress, the movie still isn't guaranteed a box office becuase she really isnt' that popular and that interesting of a character. She's even kind of...........corny. :o

[Docker2.0]

I agree WW will be like Catwoman... Both movies = terrible ideas for solo movies.

WW would be ideal for a new series on tv. Maybe on NBC or the CW or something.

A tv show I think would fit her perfectly. But WW fans are smoking a pot if they think that if she made a solo movie, it'd make over $100 million. She just doesn't have that kind of appeal.

[Docker2.0]

I agree with TIH. And I'm a HUGE Smallville fan! My friends and coworkers will tell you that there isnt' a bigger fan alive. But even I think that they are running out of material and haven't got any closer to him becoming Superman than they have in Season 2. Dude hasn't even been in college, travelled the world or flew yet.

[Showtime]

Bryan Singer crashed Brandon Routh's wedding? hmmmm is Brandon upset at Bryan because the movie tanked or something? Anyway I think Welling will end up in JLA.

He being in JLA is the only chance that movie has at this point with the line up it will face around the time it's released.

No, Singer showed up in a helicopter even though the Governator issued a no fly zone of Brandon's wedding to keep out possible Paparazzi by air. He didn't crash the wedding, he was invited.

[Showtime]

I don't know what's worse. The fact that I fell for the joke...Or the fact you guys watch Gossip Girl. :oldrazz: :cwink:

What I was saying wasn't a joke, only how I was saying it. :dry:

[Showtime]

ZIPBAGS - the fact they watch Gossip Girl. [insert rolly eyes here] LOL!! :p

ST :heart: GG

[Showtime]

I thought it was Horn who got to the wedding via Helecopter... lol but that makes sense. Would be funny if BR we're mad at BS over the movies total out come not being so possitive. :woot:

No Singer arrived via helicopter. Horn probably rode in on a pile of money.

[AgentPat]

I doubt a TV show would work either. You guys seen the ratings for Bionic Woman? :whatever:

SV started something that had never been done before: they took a costumed superhero from the comics and made him a kid like everybody else, just with bigger issues. LOL Despite a dip in the ratings, Heroes is also doing well with its "every man" approach and no costumes. I'm not sure that a show about WW as we know her would go over as well as it did back in LC's day. They'd be better off taking the SV approach. In fact, THAT would be better than Supergirl, IMHO. But I think Supergirl's chances of a spin-off diminish every day, so it's kind of a moot point.

IMHO, the best DC characters among the seven main JLers to base franchise films from are Batman, Superman, Green Lantern and Flash, in that order. I don't see WW going over well among general theatrical audiences, MM is too obscure and dare I say too "silly," and Aquaman will forever be a fish joke waiting to happen LOL!

And while I may be biased on this one, there's more money to be made from SV beyond just television. Warners spent seven years branding TW. I'll be astonished if they just let that go away w/o a major fight.

[Docker2.0]

lol you really haven't been watching have you?
When they brought in Prof. Milton Fine he was brought in as Clarks Collage teacher who turns out to be BRANIAC!

Clarks been in college oh what 2 or 3 seasons now? While yes he hasn't gone around the world yet he has been to collage, and so he's getting closer, and closer, and with the rumore that they want to keep the show going even if Tom leaves guess when they will have him leaving on his world tour? heh So yea I would like the show to go on, and have him leave to become SUPERMAN, and then maybe if they hadn't had him in the suit at all yet when he returns (pun not intended) have him wear the suit in a tv movie or if he hasn't been in JLA or a spin off big screen movie they could spin it off as his Return, and his first day at the Planet, and first time wearing the suit. There are still so many stories to tell that it would be a shame not to...

Me personally I would have him leave the show by the mid season when they will stop production because of the strike let Tom do the JLA movie which would take place sometime in the future, and then when they do finally return with new episodes they have the option to pick up a storyline that place after that or continue as if JLA never happened, and so they could continue telling the back story.
I actually have been watching the show. And I know Bizarro and Brianiac was on there. But he still isn't any closer to wearing the cape and costume than he was years ago. And I'm really curious as to how they are going to make Lex forget about Clark being Supes when he's supposedly a genious but can't tell Clark Kent is wearing glasses from Superman. There are way to many filler episodes and the series is just wearing down. MR and KK are probably not going to WANT to return but probably will.

[Docker2.0]

I doubt a TV show would work either. You guys seen the ratings for Bionic Woman? :whatever:

SV started something that had never been done before: they took a costumed superhero from the comics and made him a kid like everybody else, just with bigger issues. LOL Despite a dip in the ratings, Heroes is also doing well with its "every man" approach and no costumes. I'm not sure that a show about WW as we know her would go over as well as it did back in LC's day. They'd be better off taking the SV approach. In fact, THAT would be better than Supergirl, IMHO. But I think Supergirl's chances of a spin-off diminish every day, so it's kind of a moot point.

IMHO, the best DC characters among the seven main JLers to base franchise films from are Batman, Superman, Green Lantern and Flash, in that order. I don't see WW going over well among general theatrical audiences, MM is too obscure and dare I say too "silly," and Aquaman will forever be a fish joke waiting to happen LOL!

And while I may be biased on this one, there's more money to be made from SV beyond just television. Warners spent seven years branding TW. I'll be astonished if they just let that go away w/o a major fight.

Bionic Woman isn't doing well in ratings?! :huh: I haven't been watching the show. It just comes off...............sexist. Hard to explain but shows like that, I won't support. :o

[Docker2.0]

Then how did you not know he was already in Collage? I mean what did you think that he was still in High School? :woot: lol



Don't feel bad I couldn't sit thru an entire episode myself...

When has he actually been in class or attended school? I knew he was out of high school. Geez man, how old are you? :huh:

[ZIPBAGS]

The only thing that can possibly save Bionic Woman is having Lee Majors make an appearance as her estranged Dad. :)

[ariellem]

You and your cats. Keep it up and you'll be known as the crazy old cat lady of the hype ;)

Pat pats cats.
Cats, pat Pat!
Pat Pat, cats!
Cats! Cats? Cats :-<
Pat, pat cats.

[musclesforsupes]

Wanted to give you all the latest news about Tom from IESB. It just proves that say we boycott Smallville and screw gough and miller!


Robert Sanchez wrote:
Couple updates, first I want to say that we were first to report Brody, Common and Palmer for JLA, it was exclusive until somebody decided to "tip" off other sites with our news. We had it posted hours before anyone else did. Sour grapes from competing website loyalists.

Porter has told multiple people including my source that he was only up for The Flash, this was on Friday before the Superman rumors started.

I am confident that Porter was never up for Superman.

I was with a studio friends yesterday on a "studio lot" watching an early screening of a film that I can't talk about.

They wanted to share a couple things including a little bit about we reported months ago, they swear that Tom Welling was the studios number one choice for Superman, they fought hard and long with the Smallville producers to let them use him for JLA but that they ended up losing the fight.

Good news for our readers, two of my closest friends just got hired to work on JLA, I can't say what department but lets just say that once production starts we should start getting plenty of details from the locations, sets, props and wardrobe

Big day today, will be back on the boards later.

I am wondering what your two JLA friends have to say... I think we all are

[triplet]

Wanted to give you all the latest news about Tom from IESB. It just proves that say we boycott Smallville and screw gough and miller!


Robert Sanchez wrote:
Couple updates, first I want to say that we were first to report Brody, Common and Palmer for JLA, it was exclusive until somebody decided to "tip" off other sites with our news. We had it posted hours before anyone else did. Sour grapes from competing website loyalists.

Porter has told multiple people including my source that he was only up for The Flash, this was on Friday before the Superman rumors started.

I am confident that Porter was never up for Superman.

I was with a studio friends yesterday on a "studio lot" watching an early screening of a film that I can't talk about.

They wanted to share a couple things including a little bit about we reported months ago, they swear that Tom Welling was the studios number one choice for Superman, they fought hard and long with the Smallville producers to let them use him for JLA but that they ended up losing the fight.

Good news for our readers, two of my closest friends just got hired to work on JLA, I can't say what department but lets just say that once production starts we should start getting plenty of details from the locations, sets, props and wardrobe

Big day today, will be back on the boards later.

I am wondering what your two JLA friends have to say... I think we all are

That's an old post, muscles.

And I won't boycott WB, as much as I think they're all a bunch of idiots.

They handle Smallville and Harry Potter and whatever DC comics franchises come out as films.

I'm not giving those up.

[musclesforsupes]

But robert posted it like 8 min ago when I cut and pasted it :(

[AgentPat]

For those who may not be following along over at IESB, there's a troll that's been running rampant there for weeks. He gets IP banned, and then comes back on a new proxy. He's got multiple id's, and his latest registration is impersonating Sanchez. The troll IS disturbed. Just a heads up.

[avidreader]

For those who may not be following along over at IESB, there's a troll that's been running rampant there for weeks. He gets IP banned, and then comes back on a new proxy. He's got multiple id's, and his latest registration is impersonating Sanchez. The troll IS disturbed. Just a heads up.

Same guy as before, do you think?

[LexCorp]

Hmmm troll patrol lol

I just watched an episode of season 6 where Clark fights Titan (aka Kane WWE) - That was a great fight. TW has the stuff for Superman!

[AgentPat]

Same guy as before, do you think?Absolutely. He makes no bones about it, in fact.

[Superman_]

I have an honest question for you guys. If Tom Welling is not cast as Superman in JLA what do you think the chances are that we actually see him in the Superman outfit?

[C. Lee]

For those who may not be following along over at IESB, there's a troll that's been running rampant there for weeks. He gets IP banned, and then comes back on a new proxy. He's got multiple id's, and his latest registration is impersonating Sanchez. The troll IS disturbed. Just a heads up.

It's a good thing we don't have anyone that acts that way here....:woot:

[LexCorp]

I have an honest question for you guys. If Tom Welling is not cast as Superman in JLA what do you think the chances are that we actually see him in the Superman outfit?

I want to say high. I always imagine Clark finding the suit in the FOS. Just kind of waiting for him.

[AgentPat]

Welling being cast or not cast in JL has NOTHING to do with him being seen in the costume in the grand finale of SV. Assuming G&M get to end the show properly (eg: CW doesn't pull a L&C on them), the final scene of the final episode will be Clark Kent AS Superman. Read: Welling in the suit.

How sure am I about this? Pretty damn certain. Like 100% certain.



It's a good thing we don't have anyone that acts that way here....:woot:ROFL!! Yup. :D

[Superman_]

Well I am looking at it this way before when there was only Routh as Superman I would have said Welling stands a pretty good chance of putting on the suit. But now with there being Routh and the JLA Superman I say it is pretty slim that he will put on the suit. Also take in count if the rumors are true that the producers blocked the WB from using Welling or talking to Welling about JLA then there could be some hard feelings in which the WB says no on using the suit.

[Kalleo]

Well TW not wearing the suit in the end of SV would piss me off enough that I wouldnt watch another show in the CW again.

[LexCorp]

Well TW not wearing the suit in the end of SV would piss me off enough that I wouldnt watch another show in the CW again.

I wouldn't go that far but SV has only so little left to give. It better do it or else!

[AgentPat]

Well TW not wearing the suit in the end of SV would piss me off enough that I wouldnt watch another show in the CW again.No worries. He will. :yay:

...though if it wasn't for Reaper or even Supernatural, I wouldn't have any other reason to watch CW regardless of how SV ends. LOL

[LexCorp]

As well as Clark wearing the suit I want to see Lex have a moment in Lex towers! Maybe even start LexCorp. Something to say hey...I am big, mean, baddy!!

[Migu-EL]

No worries. He will. :yay:

...though if it wasn't for Reaper or even Supernatural, I wouldn't have any other reason to watch CW regardless of how SV ends. LOL


:up:

[Kalleo]

No worries. He will. :yay:

...though if it wasn't for Reaper or even Supernatural, I wouldn't have any other reason to watch CW regardless of how SV ends. LOL


Seriously I am with you there, I mean they are the only 3 shows on CW worth a cent.

[The Incredible Hulk]

But now with there being Routh and the JLA Superman I say it is pretty slim that he will put on the suit.

Routh is done. If there were going to be more Singer Superman movies we wouldnt even be talking about JLA right now.

[Showtime]

Bingo.

[AgentPat]

Bingo.Oh c'mon. Like that's a surprise? LOL :p

Seriously, assuming JL doesn't go by way of the dodo (still a VERY distinct possibility), I firmly believe there will only be ONE live action Supes when the film unspools. Who that actor will be is anybody's guess, but SV will have ended by that point, and SR... well... that continuity will pretty much be done at that point too.

[Serene]

Oh c'mon. Like that's a surprise? LOL :p

Seriously, assuming JL doesn't go by way of the dodo (still a VERY distinct possibility), I firmly believe there will only be ONE live action Supes when the film unspools. Who that actor will be is anybody's guess, but SV will have ended by that point, and SR... well... that continuity will pretty much be done at that point too.

I recently read some concerns (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2007/11/valkyrie-cruise.html) about how Valkyrie (Singer's latest flick) is going to do considering Tom Cruise's lack of success recently with any of his films. I know Singer has a great rep as a director, but if Valkyrie flops, you have to wonder if any of the fallout will land on his shoulders or if it will all be blamed on Cruise.

I watched the trailer for Valkyrie and I hope this wasn't a very expensive film to make. :ninja: It might be a fantastic movie, but the appeal seems pretty limited.

[Mike22]

I seriously doubt that Singers franchise will ever continue. In my personal opinion it`s as dead as can be.


I`m of the opinion that the WB have JL in mind to introduce the lesser known heroes of JL, and at the same time rejuvenate
superman. Since Superman Returns failed to do this, I`m guessing that the WB are investing pretty heavily in this movie.


We have no idea who is cast as superman in JL. Should Welling not be in this movie, and it appears to be looking that way, then I think who ever does end up in the role is gonna get to continue in the solo movies after JL. Should this new superman not be accepted well by the fans and people in general, then I think that they`ll try their luck with Welling again after smallville is finished. Sanchez said that the WB did their best to try to get Welling for this movie but the smallville producers put up a big fight. After smallville most likely offer Welling the part in the reboot movie.

I know that it looks bad for Welling now, but what has peaked my interest lately is that that, apparently the CW had planned to cut this season short regardless of what happens with the writers strike.
And I find this very puzzling because this isn`t normal behaviour from them or any studio for that matter. What makes it even stranger is that smallville is their number one show as well.
The way I figure it, there are two possible reasons for this, as I see it.
Rosenbaums contract ends this year and he wont be for an 8. season, and they want him back for another season because it`s in his contract that he has to do a FULL season, and with this season cut short, he`ll have no choice to return, whether he likes it or not.
The other reason is the more likely one...Welling is then free to do the Justice League movie.

If anyone has a more plausible idea, I`d really love to hear it because it seems SO strange that they`d cut the season short the same year that it was rumored that the season had to be shortened in order to allow Welling to be in JL.

Any ideas about this? Why are they planning to cut the season short even if the writers strike ends sooner then expected?

[Mikelus]

Mike, the problem is there are so many rumours, that till we get some official confirmation about anything, then all we're doing is speculate. I read at another Smallville site that if the strike ends soon, then we could still have the 22 episodes. Nobody seems to know for sure what is going to happen.

[Mike22]

I guess so.
But I`m starting to get really impatient. It`s been months now and we`re haven`t gotten a shred of official news. It sucks.

[triplet]

I recently read some concerns (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2007/11/valkyrie-cruise.html) about how Valkyrie (Singer's latest flick) is going to do considering Tom Cruise's lack of success recently with any of his films. I know Singer has a great rep as a director, but if Valkyrie flops, you have to wonder if any of the fallout will land on his shoulders or if it will all be blamed on Cruise.

I watched the trailer for Valkyrie and I hope this wasn't a very expensive film to make. :ninja: It might be a fantastic movie, but the appeal seems pretty limited.

You know, after that period thing he did with ex-wifey Nicole that was directed by Ron Howard he should have learned he can't do period films.

He's too modern.

Frankly, it would take a gun pointed at my head for me to watch Valkryie.

It looks terrible.

[AgentPat]

Sort of on topic. Kinda sorta.

Anybody live in Illinois? Want to meet Alex Ross? Read on...

Super purveyor of painted comics

November 29, 2007
By MICHAEL BONESTEEL Art Critic

When the first billboards appeared for last year's "Superman Returns" film, many folks wondered if superhero comics illustrator Alex Ross had a hand in designing them, or was at least involved with the production in the same way he was when his work was featured during the opening credits of "Spider-Man 2." The majestic and dramatic angle of Superman hovering in space above the planet Earth was highly reminiscent of Ross' style.

But no, the Glenview artist had no direct hand in the "Superman Returns" design.

"There were a few things taken graphically from my work," Ross said. "I was bummed that I wasn't involved, even though some elements were swiped from my paintings and acknowledged."

Notwithstanding imitation being a form of flattery, he said he still wished he could have designed the costume for a character in a forthcoming superhero movie.

"I am eternally jealous of (Marvel Comics superstar penciller) Adi Granov, who helped design the Iron Man suit for Jon Favreau's upcoming film," he said.

But the Eisner Award-winning artist really has no reason to envy anyone. He is arguably America's most famous living comic book artist.

Ross will sign autographs for fans in Schaumburg Saturday during the release of his latest Giclee print, a reproduction of the cover of "Justice League of America" No. 12, titled "Where Justice Resides."

Poetic 'Justice'

"I've been working for the past two-and-a-half to three years on painting the 'Justice' series, a 12-issue series with a huge cast," he remarked. "In the 20-year history of my painting comics, this is my crowning achievement."

In that time, Ross has made a name for himself as one of greatest purveyors of painted comics in the industry. He by no means invented the idea of painting interior art for comics -- he was preceded by artists such as Richard Corben and Bill Sienkiewicz -- but he is the most illustrious today. The painted approach has spawned the entire look of modern superhero comics which, for reasons of speed, has largely substituted digitally colored paintings for traditionally painted ones.

In light of this, Ross remains stubbornly old school.

"I have no love for sitting in front of a computer screen," he admitted. "I think most artists feel the same way, but they can't afford to spend the time to do otherwise."

Fortunately, Ross is fast -- almost as fast with his brushes on canvas as a digital painter is on a computer screen. He averages two to two-and-a-half days to do a cover, but he can crank one out in a day if necessary.

What's old is new

In December, Dynamite Comics will issue a mini-series called "Superpowers" featuring covers and several interior illustrations by Ross. "Superpowers" will bring back many forgotten public domain superheroes from the 1940s such as the Black Terror, Green Lama, The Flame and the Golden Age Daredevil.

In the spring of 2008, Ross will be the new DC cover artist for both Superman and Batman titles. He also will contribute to Marvel's new "Avengers/Invaders" which will time-travel the '40s-era Captain America, Bucky, Human Torch, Toro and Sub-Mariner from the battlefields of World War II into the present. This will be particularly interesting since the modern version of Captain America has recently died.

"Superhero comics are locked in a creative loop that's not breaking into anything new and fresh," Ross said. "Killing off characters or introducing more brutality is not a substitute for bringing in more realism. Somebody is needed to overcome the creative constraints."

ALEX ROSS SIGNS AUTOGRAPHS

1-4 p.m. Dec. 1, AnimationArt.com Gallery, D212 Woodfield Shopping Center, Schaumburg. Call (847) 517-5757.

http://pioneerlocal.com/669407,db-ross-112907-s1.article

[Serene]

Sort of on topic. Kinda sorta.

Anybody live in Illinois? Want to meet Alex Ross? Read on...

Avid and I were in that store during her visit. :)

I talked to them about the Ross appearance. I wanted to go to this, but I make it a rule not to go to Woodfield mall on weekends during the Christmas season. There are literally BUSLOADS of people that come to holiday shop (like they don't have malls wherever they live??).

It's an awesome store though.

[AgentPat]

I'd make an exception for Alex Ross, if only to tell him "WELL DONE, MAN" for this...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/ross.jpg

or this...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/ross2.jpg

or this...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/tvguide.jpg

and definitely THIS...

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/Gallery/alexross-movieposter.jpg

I mean, wouldn't YOU want to rattle his cage about those paintings and his fondness for TW/SV? Heh! I sure would. :D :word:

[Zorex]

Avid and I were in that store during her visit. :)

I talked to them about the Ross appearance. I wanted to go to this, but I make it a rule not to go to Woodfield mall on weekends during the Christmas season. There are literally BUSLOADS of people that come to holiday shop (like they don't have malls wherever they live??).

It's an awesome store though.
Woodfield during the Christmas season is hideous. All those people... teeming teeming teeming.

[jayskate]

If I was a wealthy chap , I'd love to commission a painted version of the Alex Ross ' ready to flight ' picture .

[LexCorp]

Alex Ross has done some of the best art work I have ever seen for Superheroes.

[Superman_]

Routh is done. If there were going to be more Singer Superman movies we wouldnt even be talking about JLA right now.
I understand what your saying and I agree with you fully but until the WB cuts Singer lose and stops looking for writers to write sequel to Superman Returns and stops saying it will happen after JLA, then Routh is still Superman just as well. Which is why I said what I said but I do agree with you that it looks like it might not happen but then again you never know.


On to other news with the recent casting of Batman for JLA I pray to god Welling is cast as Superman because only he can save this movie. So far this movies casting is very very very ****y. I hope the WB surprises us and cast Welling or Routh because right now this movie is shaping up to be a joke and not a good one at that.

[triplet]

I understand what your saying and I agree with you fully but until the WB cuts Singer lose and stops looking for writers to write sequel to Superman Returns and stops saying it will happen after JLA, then Routh is still Superman just as well. Which is why I said what I said but I do agree with you that it looks like it might not happen but then again you never know.


On to other news with the recent casting of Batman for JLA I pray to god Welling is cast as Superman because only he can save this movie. So far this movies casting is very very very ****y. I hope the WB surprises us and cast Welling or Routh because right now this movie is shaping up to be a joke and not a good one at that.

Armie Hammer is Batman?

The guy's 6'5"!

*shakes head sadly*

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=1&article=3804

Why was the IESB articles and posts forum closed over there? because of all the bogus entries by someone pretending to be Robert?

:confused:

[Superman_]

And keep in mind IESB said that SHH casting list was false but if you look at their (SHH) list everything they posted is starting to come true. Which is why I say I hope the WB pulls a shocker and instead of casting D.J. as Superman cast either Routh or Welling. I mean I know I will see this movie either way because thats how big of a Superman fan I am but please don't make it like F4. :(

[spark627]

Armie Hammer is Batman?

The guy's 6'5"!

*shakes head sadly*

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=1&article=3804

Why was the IESB articles and posts forum closed over there? because of all the bogus entries by someone pretending to be Robert?

:confused:

why is a tall Batman a bad thing?

[RakuMon]

FWIW, AICN is confirming Megan Gale as Wonder Woman:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34935

[RakuMon]

why is a tall Batman a bad thing?

Well, visually, it just doesn't make sense. With the cowl on, Batman could easily be seven feet in the movie.
You have to think about how the characters will look interacting with one another.
Now, unless Yao Ming is rumored for the role of Superman, it doesn't make sense for Batman to stand head and shoulders above everyone else.
The only leaguer who should be that tall is J'onn.

[Superman_]

I think IESB and Emily need to say sorry to the Hype since there whole casting list is looking to be true.

[Showtime]

The chips are starting to fall into place. AH seems to be towering over the rest while MG will now be strutting her stuff. Now for the big question, will TW be taking flight or will they bring a DJ to the party? Could there be a mystery man donning the tights? We'll find out soon. Till then.

Gossip Show
XOXO

[Mike22]

Armie Hammer as Batman?????? Ahhhhhhh *****. Bad choice.
Megan Gale as WW, great frikkin news.

[triplet]

why is a tall Batman a bad thing?

None of the rumored supes candidates are nearly as tall. And even if it is Tom that's playing Superman (which doesn't seem likely at this point), he's around 6'4" or a little less...

Batman should be a big guy, he is in the comics, but taller and broader than Superman? I'm not sure that's a good idea.

FWIW, AICN is confirming Megan Gale as Wonder Woman:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34935

She at least looks the part.


Well, visually, it just doesn't make sense. With the cowl on, Batman could easily be seven feet in the movie.

You have to think about how the characters will look interacting with one another.

Now, unless Yao Ming is rumored for the role of Superman, it doesn't make sense for Batman to stand head and shoulders above everyone else.
The only leaguer who should be that tall is J'onn.

What Raku said!

[Serene]

Armie Hammer is Batman?

The guy's 6'5"!

*shakes head sadly*

:dry:


FWIW, AICN is confirming Megan Gale as Wonder Woman:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34935[/quote]

I really, REALLY dislike her look for WW.


Now, unless Yao Ming is rumored for the role of Superman, it doesn't make sense for Batman to stand head and shoulders above everyone else.
The only leaguer who should be that tall is J'onn.

I'm throwing my vote towards Yao Ming for Supes now. At least he's got some appeal to him.

[phil]

Would Miller and Co. actually be that stupid to cast a shorter Superman than Batman? That would be really a bad move and put a big dose of negativity to talk about with this movie. After the SR mess I would think they would want to give the fanbase positive things to talk about.

And now that I know Alex Ross wasn't involved with SR he must of cringed when he saw that shot of Routh floating in space looking all fake and stiff with that silly cape attachment that did NO justice to his artwork at all. That was an embarrassing moment for that film.

[Mike22]

Would Miller and Co. actually be that stupid to cast a shorter Superman than Batman? That would be really a bad move and put a big dose of negativity to talk about with this movie. After the SR mess I would think they would want to give the fan base positive things to talk about.

And now that I know Alex Ross wasn't involved with SR he must of cringed when he saw that shot of Routh floating in space looking all fake and stiff with that silly cape attachment that did NO justice to his artwork at all. That was an embarrassing moment for that film.
I REALLY hated that scene with a passion.
And it wasn`t just that scene, but the entire movie was an embarrassment.

As for out giant here. IF Welling is cast as superman, and Welling is at least 6'3, then all the have to do is out some lifts in his boots and some really flat boots for Batman in the superman/batman scenes.
But seriously though, this is bad news, Batman isn`t supposed to be that tall and Armie looks to young IMO.
Welling is the only one that can save this movie from now. Here`s hoping the WB get that through their head and start realising that this strike is a their best chance to get welling in this movie.

[AgentPat]

Okay everybody, lets look at the dreaded cast list again...

Armie Hammer IS Batman
Megan Gale IS Wonder Woman
Adam Brody IS Flash
Common IS Green Lantern
Teresa Palmer IS Talia
MM - will probably be CGI
Aquaman - Who cares? But it'll probably be the dude from Heroes

And last and most certainly diminutive... err... I mean least, watch Supermanuel be confirmed for Supes.

OUTstanding! Well, looks like they have a winnah on their hands.[/sarcasm]


SO! A 21 y.o. 6'5 actor will be Batman? Somebody better get to Jett's house STAT and remove all of the cutlery.

MG as WW? Okay, I think her look is a THOUSAND times better than MEW's, but it's gonna be all kinds of funny when people start posting Gale's nude photos on various I-Net sites as Wonder Woman. Heh! The good news is, manipers will have it easy.

Adam Brody? Hey look, a "name!" Does anybody else find it funny that the biggest star attraction for this $200M dollar turkey will be its appeal to Seth Cohen fans? No? Okay, just me I guess.

Common? Eh. Whatever. Maybe the hiphop crowd will enjoy that, I dunno. I never heard of him before this movie, but that's not saying much. The only actor I *did* know was Brody - and that's only because of his appearance on Smallville, not the O.C.

I'm not gonna even bother with the rest, though if Catrona is confirmed, it'll probably end up being the most ridiculous cast ever assembled.

Oh, who am I kidding? It already is.

Any chance they might swap Hammer and Catrona's roles? THAT would be the smarest thing to do - assuming the casting pinheads are dead-set on such a horrific line-up. At least Gale and Hammer would be hot together, in a MILFy sort of way, I guess. LOL

[musclesforsupes]

Only thing I say is once this movie gets going and the producers and directors at comic cons and promoting this thing some people better ask about Tom.


I still say someone should ask Miller and Gough about it too and what about Mack and Rosenbauld arent they doing autographs this weekend ask them too about this!

[Showtime]

God help us all.

[musclesforsupes]

on a side note 24 hrs of a christmas story is coming on in a few weeks :D

[Superman_]

To behonest I don't think Tom will be apart of this. I think we'll end up with the cast SHH told us about 2 weeks ago. It is sad too because I really want to like this movie and new Superman. Oh well I still can look forward to SV season 8 and the sequel to Superman Returns until the WB says other wise.

[TheComicbookKid]

The chips are starting to fall into place. AH seems to be towering over the rest while MG will now be strutting her stuff. Now for the big question, will TW be taking flight or will they bring a DJ to the party? Could there be a mystery man donning the tights? We'll find out soon. Till then.

Gossip Show
XOXO

The fact that you can mimic that speaking style so well is creepy.:woot: I keep hearing that voice in my head as I read it.

[LexCorp]

To behonest I don't think Tom will be apart of this. I think we'll end up with the cast SHH told us about 2 weeks ago. It is sad too because I really want to like this movie and new Superman. Oh well I still can look forward to SV season 8 and the sequel to Superman Returns until the WB says other wise.

Was a SV season 8 confirmed?

[triplet]

Was a SV season 8 confirmed?

Smallville is the highest rated scripted show on The CW.

You think they'd cancel that with how poorly their current track record is?

I seriously doubt they're going to kill the golden goose.

[Superman_]

Thats why I say until the WB says otherwise. It wasn't just meant for Superman: The Man of Steel.

[LexCorp]

Smallville is the highest rated scripted show on The CW.

You think they'd cancel that with how poorly their current track record is?

I seriously doubt they're going to kill the golden goose.

So that's a no. I thought I missed something there lol

I would love to have that actualy confirmed.

[Superman_]

Smallville is the highest rated scripted show on The CW.

You think they'd cancel that with how poorly their current track record is?

I seriously doubt they're going to kill the golden goose.Never say never remember it was almost killed for SR and with JL it might happen again though I doubt it but it could happen. The way I see it is SV is the WB fall back plan to both JL and Superman: The Man Of Steel (assuming this movie is still coming out as planed). If both those movies fail then I the WB would do everything in its power to push that show into a movie format.

[TheComicbookKid]

I doubt it. That' like 2009-2010. Hopefully all the actors from the show will have moved on to bigger and better things. If they don't use Welling now, the best we'll get is a brief glimpse in the finale.

[LexCorp]

I doubt it. That' like 2009-2010. Hopefully all the actors from the show will have moved on to bigger and better things. If they don't use Welling now, the best we'll get is a brief glimpse in the finale.

Indeed TW is not looking like a kid/teenager anymore

[Showtime]

The fact that you can mimic that speaking style so well is creepy.:woot: I keep hearing that voice in my head as I read it.

The voice is the girl from Veronica Mars/Heroes. :yay:

[Prison Mike]

her voice is annoying in that show. I think this JL movie is dead.

[Migu-EL]

Has WB announced who's playing WW and Batman? Or is this still all heresay?

[Prison Mike]

WB has not announced anything

[C. Lee]

I still say someone should ask Miller and Gough about it too and what about Mack and Rosenbauld arent they doing autographs this weekend ask them too about this!
Who is this Rosenbauld guy.....and what character does he play?:huh:

[RakuMon]

I'm throwing my vote towards Yao Ming for Supes now. At least he's got some appeal to him.

Let's start the Coalition of the Yao!

http://www.chine-informations.com/images/upload2/yao_ming.jpg

Who else is down?!

[Mikelus]

Who is this Rosenbauld guy.....and what character does he play?:huh:

Michael Rosenbaum, you know, that guy playing Lex Luthor. :woot: :cwink:

[triplet]

Michael Rosenbaum, you know, that guy playing Lex Luthor. :woot: :cwink:

I think you need to have your sarcasm meter checked... It doesn't appear to be working.

:ninja:

;) :D

[Mikelus]

I think you need to have your sarcasm meter checked... It doesn't appear to be working.

:ninja:

;) :D

Just give it sometime, lol. :word:

[Hand Duet]

The chips are starting to fall into place. AH seems to be towering over the rest while MG will now be strutting her stuff. Now for the big question, will TW be taking flight or will they bring a DJ to the party? Could there be a mystery man donning the tights? We'll find out soon. Till then.

Gossip Show
XOXO

With Arm & Hammer whos 6'5 getting the role of BATTYMAN in this crapfest JLA movie if DJ Catrone guy who's what 5'10 with cowboy boots on gets the role of Superman this will be easily the worst cast super hero movie EVER!

The only thing that can save this movie right now is TOM WELLING being cast, and for the WB to really take their time picking the right people around him that are left to be cast because as of now!

This movie will have actors that will make us all wish we we're watching 4 hours of non stop Jar Jar Binks on the big screen instead of this horse S**it!

The WB really needs to re-think it's strategy if they pick DJ or anyone other then TOM!

And if they pick TOM they could introduce Arm & Hammer on Smallville in an episode since there has ALWAYS been talk about Bruce Wayne maybe being on the show.
Would be nice to see him as Bruce there to help hype the JLA movie, and then they could have some of the other SMALLVILLE JLA members jump into the movie also.

Now that might work out for the WB... Anything else & this movie is DOA!

[Serene]

Let's start the Coalition of the Yao!


Who else is down?!

I'm with ya', Raku!

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3482/superyaotw9.jpg


:D <--cracking myself up.

[triplet]

Just give it sometime, lol. :word:

LOL!

:D

[triplet]

I'm with ya', Raku!

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3482/superyaotw9.jpg


:D <--cracking myself up.

LOL!

:D

Awesome!

:up:

[BareKnucklez]

I'm with ya', Raku!

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3482/superyaotw9.jpg


:D <--cracking myself up.

Well that would fit right in with this JLA movie. :woot:

[AgentPat]

Hmmm.....

Variety
11/30/07

Costumer Marit Allen dies at 66
Credits included 'La Vie en Rose,' 'Dead Man'
By VARIETY STAFF

Costume designer Marit Allen, who created wardrobe for films including "Brokeback Mountain," "Eyes Wide Shut" and "Mrs. Doubtfire" died of a brain aneurism on Nov. 26 in Sydney, Australia. She was 66.

At the time of her death, Allen was working with George Miller on the Warner Bros' super-hero adventure, "Justice League of America."

Helmer Nicolas Roeg persuaded Allen to enter the film business from a career in fashion journalism, and she went on to work on Roeg films including "Don't Look Now," "Bad Timing," "Eureka" and "The Witches." She also worked frequently with Ang Lee, on films including "Ride with the Devil" and "Hulk."

Over a career that spanned 33 years, her feature credits included "La Vie en Rose," "Love in the Time of Cholera," Jim Jarmusch's "Dead Man," "Mermaids," "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" and "Little Shop of Horrors."

Nominated for two Emmys, a BAFTA and a Costume Designer's Guild award, Allen was born in England and graduated from U. of Grenoble, France. She began her career in 1961 working for Queen Magazine in the fashion department as a trainee and quickly rose to edit and write the young fashion pages. She moved to British Vogue in 1963, and spent 10 years there during the height of the swinging London scene. In 1973, she established the bachelor's degree course in Journalism at Central St. Martin's Art College.

She is survived by a son, two daughters, a sister and two grandchildren.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117976802

[Docker2.0]

Wow! This movie is just cursed! Glad Welling isn't in it!


On a side note: Brokeback Mountain really didn't need a "wardrobe", cause all they were were jeans! :huh:

[AgentPat]

Oh my bleepin' god. I have a "fan." Somewhere. I'm laughing so hard I can't breathe right now. Check this out:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/11/30/holy-retread-batman-kevin-smith-picks-michael-keaton-for-his-jla-cast/

Read the replies to that article. Hint: look for "Agent Pat."

That tickles me like I can't begin to tell ya. Hah!!!! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/laugh.gif

[triplet]

Wow! This movie is just cursed! Glad Welling isn't in it!


On a side note: Brokeback Mountain really didn't need a "wardrobe", cause all they were were jeans! :huh:

She did an excellent job with the costumes in that.

Having period costumes and making them look like no one picked the clothes, much less made them to order, is the sign of a terrific costume designer.

:up:

The costumes in Little Shop of Horror were also awesome, too bad she died.

She was a talented lady.

:(

[Prison Mike]

Oh my bleepin' god. I have a "fan." Somewhere. I'm laughing so hard I can't breathe right now. Check this out:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/11/30/holy-retread-batman-kevin-smith-picks-michael-keaton-for-his-jla-cast/

Read the replies to that article. Hint: look for "Agent Pat."

That tickles me like I can't begin to tell ya. Hah!!!! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/laugh.gif

I don't get it. Where's the "fan"?

[Docker2.0]

I don't see it either Pat!

[Maze]

Agent Pat Says:
November 30th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
I would love to see Brandon Routh reprise his role as Superman for this movie.

:woot: lol


http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/11/30/holy-retread-batman-kevin-smith-picks-michael-keaton-for-his-jla-cast/

[Docker2.0]

Oh! That wasn't you that posted that Pat?

[Maze]

Hmmm.....

Wow.

sorry to read that.

Thoughts to her family.

[AgentPat]

I don't get it. Where's the "fan"?I don't see it either Pat!Agent Pat Says:
November 30th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
I would love to see Brandon Routh reprise his role as Superman for this movie.:woot: lol

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/11/30/holy-retread-batman-kevin-smith-picks-michael-keaton-for-his-jla-cast/http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/hands.gif

And there ya have it.

The irony is, I think I'd actually be inclined to say that now - given what we know about he rest of the cast. LMFAO!!!

[AgentPat]

Oh! That wasn't you that posted that Pat?Hahahaha!! Um... no, Dock. :D

C'mon guys, fess up. Who did it? :p :p :p

Wow.

sorry to read that.

Thoughts to her family.Agreed. It is interesting to see that she was working on JL at the time though.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Armie Hammer is Batman?

The guy's 6'5"!

*shakes head sadly*

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=1&article=3804

Why was the IESB articles and posts forum closed over there? because of all the bogus entries by someone pretending to be Robert?

:confused:

ugghh. then again this is IESB so it could change tomorrow. Quick! someone call Al Gough!


FWIW, AICN is confirming Megan Gale as Wonder Woman:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34935

interesting. I thought the person would've actually had to have ya know ACTED before... :confused:

Oh my bleepin' god. I have a "fan." Somewhere. I'm laughing so hard I can't breathe right now. Check this out:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/11/30/holy-retread-batman-kevin-smith-picks-michael-keaton-for-his-jla-cast/

Read the replies to that article. Hint: look for "Agent Pat."

That tickles me like I can't begin to tell ya. Hah!!!! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/laugh.gif

TRAITOR!!!!! ;)

[Prison Mike]

Oh it was someone else then! Maybe you have a stalker fan? lol

[AgentPat]

ugghh. then again this is IESB so it could change tomorrow. Quick! someone call Al Gough!Just an FYI, the threads in the other forums have *not* been closed. Discussion continues there, though I'm sure the troll will find it eventually.

TRAITOR!!!!! ;)Muhahahaha! :D

Oh it was someone else then! Maybe you have a stalker fan? lolApparently, hence my dubbing them a "fan." Anybody who goes around posting as some other schmo user has issues. Big time. Which is why I found it funny - in a flabbergasted kind of way. I didn't realize my opinion held that much weight that somebody would actually post AS me. That's just AWESOME! :D

Now, I fully expect my "fan" to post again and lambaste Welling on some public forum somewhere. In fact, I DARE 'em to do it. Then I know I'm worshipped. C'mon, you know you want to. Go for it, sucker! Kneel before me...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/hahaha2.gif

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/kneel.gif

[C. Lee]

. Then I know I'm worshipped. C'mon, you know you want to. Go for it, sucker! Kneel before me...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/hahaha2.gif

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/kneel.gif

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa179/Kiba_Fangirl13/thOhReallybaby.gif

[avidreader]

Hahahaha!! Um... no, Dock. :D

C'mon guys, fess up. Who did it? :p :p :p



Oh, I bet its that little troll you warned us about the other day. :ninja:

[AgentPat]

Troll? Oh, no way. This is a loyal subject, doncha know? :p






Yeah, I AM kidding 'bout this stuff, but I DO find it hysterical that somebody wants to impersonate me. :D

[Serene]

Now, I fully expect my "fan" to post again and lambaste Welling on some public forum somewhere. In fact, I DARE 'em to do it. Then I know I'm worshipped. C'mon, you know you want to. Go for it, sucker! Kneel before me...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/hahaha2.gif

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/kneel.gif

Omg, that's just too funny! I have a guess as to who did it - the same attention whore that loves to send anonymous scoops. :ninja: Just sayin'.

Of course, it's sad that there are a few other strong possibilities I can think of too!

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa179/Kiba_Fangirl13/thOhReallybaby.gif


LMAO! :D

[Hand Duet]

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa179/Kiba_Fangirl13/thOhReallybaby.gif

hahaha now thats funny as hell! :woot:

[Laughing guy]

is there going to be one more season i hope so cause i love it. and i am new to this bored how do you put an icon up with your user name

[Mikelus]

Now, I fully expect my "fan" to post again and lambaste Welling on some public forum somewhere. In fact, I DARE 'em to do it. Then I know I'm worshipped. C'mon, you know you want to. Go for it, sucker! Kneel before me...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/hahaha2.gif

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/kneel.gif

I didn't know you were into the "Kneel before Zod...I meant me cult. :woot: ;)

[LexCorp]

is there going to be one more season i hope so cause i love it. and i am new to this bored how do you put an icon up with your user name

I want it confirmed...some hard core lovers here say for sure to season 8....but who knows.

You need a few posts for that. Check the FAQs

[triplet]

is there going to be one more season. i hope so cause i love it.

It's pretty likely they'll be another season but it isn't official yet. they usually have the official word in the Spring, before the May sweeps.


and i am new to this bored how do you put an icon up with your user name

Welcome but you have to have 300 post before you can select an avatar and then you'll be limited to a 50x50 pixel one.

[AgentPat]

For those still keeping track, the Megan Gale rumors are picking up a little steam - or sweat, as the case might be...
http://www.moviehole.net/news/20071202_wonder_woman_spotted_intrainin.html

[Prison Mike]

if she is announced, I can just imagine a bunch of 10 year olds googling her name and finding her nude pics plastered all over the internet. lol

[Antonello Blueberry]

Did it happen when Erica Durance was announced as Smalville Lois Lane?

[Prison Mike]

I don't think Durance has nude pics all over the internet.

[Syncos]

I don't think Durance has nude pics all over the internet.

Durance has done a few nude scenes in movies where caps have made it to the net. But she hasn't done a nude photo shoot.

[Prison Mike]

yeah, that's what I meant. An actual photo shoot. I think Gale has done them, but Durance hasn't.

[TheLongestDay]

Bale has nude photos on google

Halle Berry has em too and both of those popped up on a random google search lol.

the point is a hell of alot of people wanted Monica Belluci for WW and she has TONS of nude pics on the net...not to mention she has been in one of the most disturbing and horrifying rape scenes of all time...


If SHE was cast would you all be saying "what if some 10 year old loved WW and saw the "irreversible" dvd at Blockbuster or downloaded the movie and then saw THAT scene"?

[Docker2.0]

Don't you judge me man! Don't judge me! :cmad:


*plans to rent irreversible today* :ninja:

[TheLongestDay]

lol! dont do it!

[Prison Mike]

Bale has nude photos on google

Halle Berry has em too and both of those popped up on a random google search lol.

the point is a hell of alot of people wanted Monica Belluci for WW and she has TONS of nude pics on the net...not to mention she has been in one of the most disturbing and horrifying rape scenes of all time...


If SHE was cast would you all be saying "what if some 10 year old loved WW and saw the "irreversible" dvd at Blockbuster or downloaded the movie and then saw THAT scene"?

THAT would be terrible. I saw that movie and no 10 year old should see that. Ultimately it's up to the parents to monitor what their child sees on the internet, but actors also have a responsibility. Now I know that some actors have done photo shoots, but they're covering up some parts. Gale has photos where everything is shown. There's a bit of a difference there.

[Docker2.0]

I am so sick of people saying its up to the parents. No parent in their right mind would purposely let their child look at porn or things like that but I do recall myself when I was a teen (13 to be exact)watching some porn. I found a way to get it and it's really easy to get! I'm so sick of people blaming parents for things when the truth is if you want it, you can EASILY get it. :cmad:


Ending rant now. :O

[TheLongestDay]

THAT would be terrible. I saw that movie and no 10 year old should see that. Ultimately it's up to the parents to monitor what their child sees on the internet, but actors also have a responsibility. Now I know that some actors have done photo shoots, but they're covering up some parts. Gale has photos where everything is shown. There's a bit of a difference there.

Not everything hehehe:oldrazz:

But seriously i hear what you are saying,I think if kids go looking for nude pics they will find them,but with the google search filters they shouldnt be able to find nude pics cuz like i said there are nude pics of almost every celebrity...even burt reynolds!!!:dry:

[Prison Mike]

I am so sick of people saying its up to the parents. No parent in their right mind would purposely let their child look at porn or things like that but I do recall myself when I was a teen (13 to be exact)watching some porn. I found a way to get it and it's really easy to get! I'm so sick of people blaming parents for things when the truth is if you want it, you can EASILY get it. :cmad:


Ending rant now. :O

I'm tired of parents blaming everyone else for their kids' mistakes. There is software that can monitor what sites kids can go on. There are also devices keep kids from watching certain shows or channels. I mean there are ways to monitor what your kid is doing, so they shouldn't blame the entertainment industry because that would be unfair to the people who are of age and can do these things.

[Prison Mike]

Not everything hehehe:oldrazz:

But seriously i hear what you are saying,I think if kids go looking for nude pics they will find them,but with the google search filters they shouldnt be able to find nude pics cuz like i said there are nude pics of almost every celebrity...even burt reynolds!!!:dry:

I understand what you are saying. I'm just concerned for the kids who aren't looking for nude pics but just want to see who Megan Gale is and bam..nude pics. But you're right, there are search filters on google, so it shouldn't be a big problem.

I just realized that we are way off topic, so we should probably go back to talking about Welling as Superman. I don't hope he gets it because this movie is looking sucky.

[Docker2.0]

I'm not a parent so I can't be included in that category. I know how kids think becuase I did a lot of sneaky things when I was growing up. And why can't the entertainment business be blamed?! They target all these adult things for kids so they do share in the blame! Have you seen the teen choice awards?! The artist that they have as choices are not suitable for kids. Freakin Jay Z is not rated G nor should he be targetted for them, neither is Kanye West. Not saying that parents get off clean and easy but there's only so much a parent can do.

[TheLongestDay]

i really dont think he will,but by god he should as he is the only thing that will truly excite me about this movie right now.

I think if Welling is cast it could really tip the balance.

[Docker2.0]

I just realized that we are way off topic, so we should probably go back to talking about Welling as Superman. I don't hope he gets it because this movie is looking sucky.
Ah ok. And I agree. I hope this movie bombs but sadly it won't.

[spark627]

Just finished this piece, supposed to be Tom as Superman but I think the eyebrows are a little off... oh well! Hope you all like...
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs23/i/2007/336/3/6/Superman_by_JGiampietro.jpg

[Prison Mike]

holy *****. you did that? That is awesome work, man! :up:

it looks like he's um...super...down there. lol

[spark627]

Thanks!

Check out my deviant site for more

www.jgiampietro.deviantart.com

[Prison Mike]

ok I LOVE your Cherry Darling art. That is some great work.

[AgentPat]

I think if Welling is cast it could really tip the balance.Agreed, it sure would. Because then it'd go from fanboy dread of seeing a bunch of young nobodies playing dress up in a film directed by George Happy Feet Miller to something 30 million SV fans have wanted to see for years. If Warners wants to drown out the naysayers, that's a step in the right direction, IMO. Picture a field filled with millions of prairie dogs, all poking their heads up out of the sand in stunned anticipation. Tell them they're also getting Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter in the same film and they'll see it as a bonus, not a casting compromise. :p

I'm being silly of course, but there is NO denying SV's worldwide reach or Welling's popularity with the GP for the role of Superman. In the last seven years, it went from a passing thought to an expectation to a demand - and it's become an awfully loud one at that.



That's a really nice drawing, Spark627! :up:

[spark627]

ok I LOVE your Cherry Darling art. That is some great work.

Thanks, after seeing that movie I am pretty obsessed with her :)

[Serene]

Don't you judge me man! Don't judge me! :cmad:


*plans to rent irreversible today* :ninja:

Okay, that made me sputter my coffee out. *wiping screen*


Thanks!

Check out my deviant site for more

www.jgiampietro.deviantart.com

Wow! Awesome work, spark. I LOVE your Women of DC piece. Man, I'd give a body part for artistic talent like that.

Regarding Gale as WW. Bleh. My reservations about her have little to do with all her nudie shots, although I'd prefer she didn't have so MANY if she's truly going to represent an iconic female role model for young girls. I think she has a fantastic body, perfect even, but I don't like her face. It's just that shallow. :) Just as I think Superman has to have a face that makes you go "Whoa", I think the same for WW. I don't find her pretty enough for WW - just a personal preference thing though, I'm sure there are a lot of people who find her beautiful, and she is beautiful when compared to the average person walking around out there, but she's just not WW beautiful, IMO.

I also keep reading that she can't act her way out of a bag, which isn't going to help. A face that's not perfect can be overcome by a fabulous and charming charisma on-screen, but I'm not sure she's going to deliver on that count either.

[triplet]

Not everything hehehe:oldrazz:

But seriously i hear what you are saying,I think if kids go looking for nude pics they will find them,but with the google search filters they shouldnt be able to find nude pics cuz like i said there are nude pics of almost every celebrity...even burt reynolds!!!:dry:

No, not everybody.
















If you ever find any that are legitimately of Tom Welling, there are plenty of manipped photos out there, send me a PM.

:ninja:

[Mr. Socko]

Bale has nude photos on google

Halle Berry has em too and both of those popped up on a random google search lol.

the point is a hell of alot of people wanted Monica Belluci for WW and she has TONS of nude pics on the net...not to mention she has been in one of the most disturbing and horrifying rape scenes of all time...


If SHE was cast would you all be saying "what if some 10 year old loved WW and saw the "irreversible" dvd at Blockbuster or downloaded the movie and then saw THAT scene"?

:eek:I've never seen 'em. *searches google*

[Zorex]

Hmm, let me know if you uh... if you find anything.

[AgentPat]

Hmm, let me know if you uh... if you find anything.To my knowledge, they're all like Welling's "nude" photos: they're all manips. Neither actor has done completely nude photo shoots.

Sorry Zorex. :(

[Mr. Socko]

Dammit, google to no avail...

[spark627]

To my knowledge, they're all like Welling's "nude" photos: they're all manips. Neither actor has done completely nude photo shoots.

Sorry Zorex. :(

Christian Bale never did a nude photoshoot, he has been nude in many movies. You can def find them, I have a few saved :)

[AgentPat]

Christian Bale never did a nude photoshoot, he has been nude in many movies. You can def find them, I have a few saved :)I've got 'em all - well, *most* of 'em. Name the film and scene and I'll do a cap for ya. :D

PS: He's pretty skinny in Metroland. :p ;)



Not sure where to post this, but since it's Superman and SV, I guess this is the most appropriate thread.

I just received Younis' Big Blue Report for Dec. 3. I missed voting, but this is still cool:

Each year at the Superman Homepage we hold our annual SHIELD Awards - Superman Homepage Indicator of Excellence in Literature and Design Awards. I delayed sending out this Big Blue Report newsletter by a few days to bring you the results of the 2007 SHIELD Awards.

Voting began on November 1st 2007 and ended December 3rd 2007, giving you, the fans, the opportunity to voice your opinions about comics with a 2007 cover date, Superman related TV shows, and Superman merchandise released in 2007.

Everyone who voted in the 2007 SHIELD Awards automatically went into the draw for a chance to win a $100 Gift Certificate from http://www.SupermanSuperstore.com/.

There could only be one winner and that person is: Sara Cigelske

The results have been forwarded on to DC Comics, Warner Bros. and the various winners. Congratulations to those creative people involved!

You can check out the full results, with percentage breakdowns for each category and nominee at the website. http://www.supermanhomepage.com/comics/comics.php?topic=shield-awards/shield-awards-2007r

Here are the winners...

BEST COMIC BOOK WRITER - Geoff Johns & Richard Donner (Action Comics)

BEST COMIC BOOK ARTISTS (Penciller/Inker team) - Doug Braithwaite & Alex Ross (Justice)

BEST REGULAR SUPERMAN TITLE - All Star Superman

BEST SUPERMAN FAMILY BOOK (i.e. Other Superman-family comics) - Justice League of America

BEST ONE SHOT, LIMITED SERIES, OR GUEST APPEARANCE (i.e. Other Superman-related comics) - Action Comics Annual #10

BEST STORT/STORY ARC IN THE REGULAR SUPERMAN TITLES - Last Son (Action Comics #844-846, 851)

BEST STORY/STORY-ARC IN A SUPERMAN FAMILY/RELATED TITLE - The Lightning Saga (Justice League of America #8-10)

BEST COMIC BOOK COVER - Justice League of America #12 (Cover A)

BEST REPRINT/TRADE PAPERBACK - Death and Return of Superman Omnibus (Hardcover)

BEST APPEARANCE IN AN ALTERNATIVE MEDIA (i.e. TV, Books, DVDs, etc...) - Smallville (TV Series - Seasons 6 & 7)

BEST PRODUCT (i.e. Toys, Statues, Calendar, etc) - Superman: Doomsday DVD

BEST "SMALLVILLE" EPISODE - Justice

BEST "SMALLVILLE" WRITER - Steven S. DeKnight (Zod, Reunion, Justice, Prototype)

BEST "SMALLVILLE" CHARACTER/ACTOR - Clark Kent: Tom Welling

BEST "LEGION OF SUPER HEROES" EPISODE - Man of Tomorrow

BEST "LEGION OF SUPER HEROES" WRITER - Amy Wolfram (Man of Tomorrow, Chain of Command)

BEST "LEGION OF SUPER HEROES" CHARACTER/ACTOR - Yuri Lowenthal (Superman)

That concludes the SHIELD Awards for 2007. We look forward to a great 2008 and another SHIELD Awards ceremony in a year's time. Thank you all for your participation.

Regards,
Steve Younis

[Cmill216]

Damn, DeKnight really was red hot last season. :eek:

[AgentPat]

Damn, DeKnight really was red hot last season. :eek:Yes. Yes he was. I still keep a candle burning in hope they can lure him back, but I doubt it'll happen.

[Zing79]

We all already know it's not happening, but this is kind of perfect timing for theorists :)

From AICN:
This separate Monday Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117976892.html?categoryid=14&cs=1&p=0) story makes an interesting point. Once the strike goes past this coming Sunday, all the TV actors “have to be restored to full salary or else be made free agents through force majeure.” This means everybody from Katherine Heigl to Kristen Bell are likely to find themselves able to join already-written movie projects that are about to shoot.

I'm just having fun with this, but it's just too easy at this point. The cast still hasn't been announced -- sunday Welling could do this movie even if Gough and Miller didn't want them too.

I guess this now throws the theory that those two are what's keeping Welling from the film right out the window doesn't it? Because as of this Sunday WB could have Welling if they wanted him.

[triplet]

Interesting...

Things that you wanna say Hhhmmmm.....

;)

[Mike_D202]

We all already know it's not happening, but this is kind of perfect timing for theorists :)

From AICN:


I'm just having fun with this, but it's just too easy at this point. The cast still hasn't been announced -- sunday Welling could do this movie even if Gough and Miller didn't want them too.

I guess this now throws the theory that those two are what's keeping Welling from the film right out the window doesn't it? Because as of this Sunday WB could have Welling if they wanted him.

LOL, I was just gonna post that.

[triplet]

Well, I don't know how that is going to affect Tom.

I read the article and it's only for shows that have been shuttered for 5 weeks on Sunday that will be forced to cut their talent loose under force majeure:

And once TV shows have been shut down for five weeks, actors who were downgraded to half-pay by studios will either have to be restored to full salary or else be made free agents through force majeure. While it is doubtful the latter will happen with the stars of hits like "The Office," "Grey's Anatomy" and "Heroes," a prolonged strike could prompt studios to cut deals with those actors that would open them up for feature availability. That means Steve Carell, Patrick Dempsey and Katherine Heigl, Hayden Panettiere and her "Heroes" cohorts could take film jobs.

Smallville is still in production and will be for about another 6 or 7 weeks, if you include their Chrstmas break.

Also there's this:

SAG will push studios to either restore those TV stars to full pay or release them. Talent on shaky series will probably find their shows scrapped by force majeure. While some feel that studios would rather pay stars from hit series so they can ramp up episode production if the strike ends, film execs are watching closely. Some wonder if exits will occur in time to mount some late spring pictures.

[AgentPat]

Well, I don't know how that is going to affect Tom.

I read the article and it's only for shows that have been shuttered for 5 weeksExactly. It's five weeks from the point of shutdown, which is *after* the point where actors have been placed on half-pay. SV is still in full production and will continue to be so through January. On top of that, studios have the option to return any actor they want to full pay after the five week "layoff." SV is CW's top scripted show. What would you do?

As much as I'd love to see Welling stick it to G&M right between the eyes, he won't be able to say "screw you!" (LOL) for a while.

[Mike22]

We`ve had confirmations ( or as close as we`re gonna get to a confirmation by IESB`s reporting any way) about GL, Batman, Talia, Flash and Wonder woman, Aquaman is rumored to be played by the Heroes actor, MM is rumored to be CGI and some guy that looks absolutely nothing like superman whose name is DJ Cotrona. Now, I don`t know how it is with you guys but I`m not buying the DJ as superman crap we`re hearing.... like AT ALL. I think it`s just the WB releasing fake info to throw people off.
Think about it, we`ve got confirmations or rumors about everyone BUT superman. I know superman is hard to cast but surely, if they cast someone like Armie Hammer as Batman and settled with that, then they could just as easily cast someone similar as superman. BUT I think this goes beyond that, and that the reason we`ve had so many delays is that the WB haven`t given up on Welling. They might have at one point, but the strike has given them new hope. And the cast we`re getting seems to be in line with the casting of welling, looks-wise.

Welling is really the only one that can save this movie at this point.
Welling would also own the rest of the cast in terms of looking like the character he`s portraying.:woot:

[AgentPat]

I still think JL went belly-up over a month ago. ;)

[Mr. Socko]

I'd like to see Welling as Superman but idk about in JL. It may never pick up or it'll probably be a flop.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Welling is really the only one that can save this movie at this point.
Welling would also own the rest of the cast in terms of looking like the character he`s portraying.:woot:


Welling isnt saving anything. He wont be anywhere near the JLA movie. At this point would you even really want to see his Supes next to the likes of Baking Soda Boy as Batman and Australian Penis Tucker as Wonder Woman?

I know seeing Tom as Supes is pretty much one of the penultimate cool things we could possibly see in a superhero film at this point but at what cost? This movie is shaping up to be a joke and it would KILL me to see Tom in it now. He deserves better than that.

:bh:

[triplet]

Found these thanks to a link over on LJ.

These are scenes from the Desperate Housewives episode Armie Hammer (the alleged Batman) was in.

He plays Barrett and isn't as nice and squeaky clean as a pre-med student should be:

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i6VlIH5Musw

I dunno... I like the deep voice but he looks like a kid, even if he is amazingly tall. However, he's not that great an actor if those scenes are any indication. He also seems to be exceedingly bland.

*shrug*

Reason #522 of why the only reason I will see this is if Tom Welling is in it.

*sigh*

I guess it's a good thing he isn't.

[Serene]

At this point would you even really want to see his Supes next to the likes of Baking Soda Boy as Batman and Australian Penis Tucker as Wonder Woman?

I actually had to read that twice before falling OFF MY CHAIR LAUGHING. :D

You are SO bad. I think that's why I like you.

Found these thanks to a link over on LJ.

These are scenes from the Desperate Housewives episode Armie Hammer (the alleged Batman) was in.

He plays Barrett and isn't as nice and squeaky clean as a pre-med student should be:

dwRsWdCAh8k

i6VlIH5Musw

I dunno... I like the deep voice but he looks like a kid, even if he is amazingly tall. However, he's not that great an actor if those scenes are any indication. He also seems to be exceedingly bland.

Well, he is tall.
And, um.. kinda cute. I do have a hard time picturing him as Batman though. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I reeeally want an official announcement about ANYTHING to do with this movie. Even if it's just that it's been ****canned.

[Mike22]

Welling isnt saving anything. He wont be anywhere near the JLA movie. At this point would you even really want to see his Supes next to the likes of Baking Soda Boy as Batman and Australian Penis Tucker as Wonder Woman?

I know seeing Tom as Supes is pretty much one of the penultimate cool things we could possibly see in a superhero film at this point but at what cost? This movie is shaping up to be a joke and it would KILL me to see Tom in it now. He deserves better than that.

:bh:

Well Hulk, it just seems to me that if we don`t get Welling in the JL, then we wont ever get to see him as superman in a movie. I know there`s hope about the Superman reboot later on, but that`s still a long shot.
I know Welling deserves better, but it`s either this or nothing, ya`know.

[LexCorp]

Do you think we could get a new show like the adventures of Lois and Clark but this time staring TW as supes?

[TheLongestDay]

Do you think we could get a new show like the adventures of Lois and Clark but this time staring TW as supes?

good question,I dont know if it would work though:huh:

Smallville is kinda already that show just without the Superman name and suit

[LexCorp]

good question,I dont know if it would work though:huh:

Smallville is kinda already that show just without the Superman name and suit

I think they could do it.....

They could leave behind SV and in about 3 years they could bring out the new LOIS & CLARK show. With TW as Supes....but make it more central to Superman and have him in the suit.

[TheLongestDay]

I think they could do it.....

They could leave behind SV and in about 3 years they could bring out the new LOIS & CLARK show. With TW as Supes....but make it more central to Superman and have him in the suit.

I think if they ever did that show itd be about 5 mins of supes each episode.

I would still love to see that happen tho if we are never gonna get that Superman reboot or Welling in JL

[LexCorp]

I think if they ever did that show itd be about 5 mins of supes each episode.

I would still love to see that happen tho if we are never gonna get that Superman reboot or Welling in JL

Considering that I have not heard much on either front I would like to see that. I think they can do more than 5 mins per episode of supes. You in fact I think the title should be Superman Adventure....less Lois more Superman. A good old live action version of a superman adventure in a series would be great to watch.

[Gary Glitter]

Considering that I have not heard much on either front I would like to see that. I think they can do more than 5 mins per episode of supes. You in fact I think the title should be Superman Adventure....less Lois more Superman. A good old live action version of a superman adventure in a series would be great to watch.


That sounds nice! :oldrazz:

[LexCorp]

That sounds nice! :oldrazz:

I think it would work. A much more Superman focused show would work IMO.

[triplet]

Well, he is tall.
And, um.. kinda cute. I do have a hard time picturing him as Batman though. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I reeeally want an official announcement about ANYTHING to do with this movie. Even if it's just that it's been ****canned.

Quoted for truth.

Something official would be nice. Has Miller even been officially announced as the director?

*shrug*

[LexCorp]

Quoted for truth.

Something official would be nice. Has Miller even been officially announced as the director?

*shrug*

The only offical thing I have heard is that TW is doing season 7 of SV.

[Mr. Socko]

Do you think we could get a new show like the adventures of Lois and Clark but this time staring TW as supes?


I think that's a great idea. Smallville basically graduates to "Metropolis."

[Docker2.0]

You do know if Smallville does that it won't star Tom Welling right? They'd have to hire a new Superman. I wonder if they do reboot Superman and don't hire Routh, will he be willing to do it.

[AgentPat]

Hmm. Well, the gravy thickens...

Los Angeles Times
December 5, 2007

Adam Brody to play the Flash?
But Warner Bros., which has not confirmed, says 'Justice League' hasn't gotten a green light yet.
By Gina Piccalo

Adam Brody has closed negotiations to play the Flash, the super-fast superhero in director George Miller's "Justice League of America," a source close to the deal said Tuesday. Warner Bros. Pictures, however, won't confirm the news, saying the film still hasn't been green-lighted.

The studio is expected to hold off on an announcement until all the roles are cast and a splashy news conference can herald the return of the beloved series. "Justice League of America" is one of Warner Bros.' highest-priority films right now, with an anticipated 2009 release.

Rampant speculation over which celebrities will don tights erupted almost immediately after Miller announced auditions for the leading roles in October, indicating that he wanted "actors who can grow into their super-roles."

Brody, best known as the heartthrob on "The O.C.," joins Australian supermodel Megan Gale, who was reportedly cast as Wonder Woman, apparently beating out Jessica Biel for the part.

Among the other young actors rumored to have been cast are "Friday Night Lights' " Scott Porter as Superman and "Wolf Creek's" Teresa Palmer as Talia al Ghul -- a recurring love interest for Batman. Common (a.k.a. John Stewart) was rumored to be playing the Green Lantern.

The film, which is based on the DC Universe comic first published in 1960, features a team of crime-fighting superheroes, including Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, the Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter and Superman.

The movie opens with the funeral of Barry Allen, the second Flash, whose era dated from 1956 to 1986, according to Slashfilm.com. Brody plays his nephew, who, at age 10, was exposed to electrically charged chemicals while visiting his uncle's police laboratory. The boy donned his uncle's uniform to become a young crime fighter known as Kid Flash. As an adult, the Flash has superhuman reflexes that allow him to violate some laws of physics.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/movies/la-et-justiceleague5dec05,1,3969380.story

[Docker2.0]

Brody's back in!? :eek: This lets me know that the cast that we have had may not be true. Welling back in the running?!

[AgentPat]

Brody's back in!? :eek: This lets me know that the cast that we have had may not be true. Welling back in the running?!Huh? What makes you think that? They're still quoting Miller about wanting to cast "actors who can grow into their super-roles." If Welling grows any more into his role, he'll bust the seams. :p

I will say I think it's funny they keep using that excuse for casting young and putting those words into Miller's mouth though. Not saying he didn't say it, but a director should look for the most qualified actors available, not be concerned what the studio will do three films down the road. Let that be their problem. Of course, budget might have a lot to do with it too. Maybe the rumored actors ARE the most qualified actors - in the two bit range? LOL I'm kidding of course, but none of them are break-the-piggy-bank material. In point of fact - with the exception of Brody - they're nobodies. Megan who?

[Prison Mike]

why did they say that Megan Gale beat out Jessica Biel for WW? I thought Biel turned down the role a few months ago. That isn't "beating out", IMO.

[triplet]

The only offical thing I have heard is that TW is doing season 7 of SV.

LOL!

Yep.

Hmm. Well, the gravy thickens...

:eek:

Wow.

*sigh*

[AgentPat]

why did they say that Megan Gale beat out Jessica Biel for WW? I thought Biel turned down the role a few months ago. That isn't "beating out", IMO.Who knows? Maybe Gale "beat out" Biel because Gale was willing to accept the role for less coin? Point is, the public was told Biel "turned it down." But that doesn't make it true. ;)

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/scared.gif

From IESB's boards...

True or not, I figured I would post this anyway since it does seem like it could be a possibility. Just keep in mind, I'm saying this is purely a rumor as it came from a casting agency as a through the grapevine / overheard a conversation sort of thing.

I've been told Daniel Cudmore auditioned for Superman and was well liked. Given the ages of the other cast members and what it seems like Miller is going for, he could fit in the role easily. At 6' 6 and pretty built up, he'd be better than anyone rumored so far. If you don't know who he is, he played Colossus in X-Men 2 and 3.

[Docker2.0]

If this is true, it would be a bad idea cuase noone in their right mind would fall for the Clark Kent disguise.

[The Incredible Hulk]

LOL @ a Canadian Superman

[AgentPat]

If this is true, it would be a bad idea cause noone in their right mind would fall for the Clark Kent disguise.When did they say Clark Kent would even be in JL? :oldrazz:

I never put one moment of thought to the argument that a beefy Clark Kent would be recognized as Superman just because of his size. Please. If we can roll with the glasses-as-disguise, we can roll with a reporter who chooses to keep in great shape. It's just a conceit of the mythology that we look past in order to enjoy everything else about the story.

....and besides, you're talking to a TW fan here. We'd recognize him in a burlap sack. You think he could get away with hiding in a crowd just by wearing glasses? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/no.gif

Back to Cudmore. Wow. Really? I don't know how to respond to that. But I guess a pro would be that he's taller than Hammer, and he looks a HELL of a lot better than SuperManu-El. :p

[triplet]

Back to Cudmore. Wow. Really? I don't know how to respond to that. But I guess a pro would be that he's taller than Hammer, and he looks a HELL of a lot better than SuperManu-El. :p

Apparently, he's 6'8" not 6'6"....

Taller than Hammer by enough to notice, but I don't really like his face that much.

At least he's taller and beefier than some of the other guys whose names had been bandied about....

http://www.jimbo.info/weblog/archives/dcudbig.jpg


Is it just me, or should he lay off with the tweezers?

:eek:

[smsvmos]

I dont have a problem with him as Superman

http://www.welikesheep.com/archives/cudmore.jpg

[triplet]

I dont have a problem with him as Superman

http://www.welikesheep.com/archives/cudmore.jpg

I dunno, he's too bland looking to me.

Nice body, however.

[Cmill216]

With all of these lame casting choices being thrown out there, He Who Shall Not Be Named seems like such a sunnier option all of a sudden. :csad:

[smsvmos]

he is kind of a mix between Dean Cain and Tom Welling

[AgentPat]

At least he's taller and beefier than some of the other guys whose names had been bandied about....Yes! That's a HUGE plus. No pun intended.

Is it just me, or should he lay off with the tweezers?They do look groomed. But y'know what? I'd take that over a caveman's unibrow or twin caterpillars any day of the week. That scheet's nasty.

I dont have a problem with him as SupermanWelling will always be my Superman - he makes me all kinds of happy and mushy at the same time. But I wouldn't mind Cudmore if the movie is just an eye-candy extravaganza. Physically, he'd own the role in a larger-than-life kind of way. If the idea of JL is action, action and more action, then I guess he'd be fine. The movie isn't looking like I'm gonna give two poops about the characters in a meaningful, caring sort of way, so I might as well just enjoy the mindlessness of it. I can get behind that.

[Serene]

http://www.jimbo.info/weblog/archives/dcudbig.jpg


Is it just me, or should he lay off with the tweezers?

:eek:

LMAO! Maybe he waxes. :D

He's just kinda meh. But that's how I feel about the entire <speculated> cast so far, except for Gale as WW who I sorta HATE. :p

He does look like a younger, more buff, and not nearly as good-looking Dean Cain.

Still, I'm sure I'll be plunking down my $$ to see it once, at least. But had they used more brain cells in the casting choices, I'd have seen it multiple times AND bought the DVD. ;)

[mellyM]

he's fugly, i prefer a prettier superman:)

[Mike22]

Look at it this way, with casting such as this, Welling will go down in history along with Reeve for being the most appropriate in the part LOL.
Looks, build and the talent for the part. While this guy seems to only have a good build and height. Facially he reminds me of a younger version of the Alex Ross superman, so I honestly could see how Miller would go for this guy. And also, I seriously hope that they don`t even attempt at showing this guy as clark kent, because it would looks so ridiculous that I honestly have no words for it.

[AgentPat]

LMAO! Maybe he waxes. :D

He's just kinda meh. But that's how I feel about the entire <speculated> cast so far, except for Gale as WW who I sorta HATE. :pOh, no doubt. I'm "meh" on the whole cast too. And while I'm not as totally against Gale as you and Hulk, it still amazes me they couldn't find anybody better. I mean, she has little to no acting experience, and she's not draw-dropping stunning IMHO. But then, NONE of the cast are.

He does look like a younger, more buff, and not nearly as good-looking Dean Cain.BINGO!!!! I *knew* there was something about him I recognized (beyond his role in the X-Men films, that is.) Though I agree with Mel: I wish he was better looking. :)

Speaking of which, I've come to the foregone conclusion that it's too late for me to even *hope* I might believe in any other version of Superman. I can go back and watch old movies/shows, but even then everything becomes a comparison to my current "reality," and that's TW. Just is. So I'm not gonna fight it anymore. I watched an ep of L&C the other day and it was like watching a whole nutha character - who just happens to be named Clark.

It. just. wasn't. the. same. :(

In my recent message board travels, I've noticed a new phenomenon that's completely unique to SV. As an older fan of Superman movies and TV shows, I see SV's Clark as Superman. Okay, he doesn't wear the costume yet, and he's not called Superman by name, but he's still Superman to me. But fans with very young children say their kids see the hero as Clark Kent. Well yeah, that's who he is, right? No, their point is, Clark is the guy. These kids are growing up with a "super man" who IS Clark Kent. I'm not sure I'm explaining myself clearly, but the symbol for these kids - the hero - the guy who inspires them - is Clark Kent. They wouldn't know Superman from a hole in the wall. Superman is a guy with slicked back hair and flies around in a red cape and wears boots up to his calves. I'm over simplifying LOL, but I hope people get the point.

For these very young children, it really is all about the portrayal, not the name. They wouldn't recognize Clark in a cape and skin-tight suit any more than they'd understand why he all of a sudden started dressing in a business suit and wore glasses. It's not the same guy. Their hero is a guy who wears a red jacket, blue t-shirt and jeans, and his name is Clark Kent - not Superman. It's almost like a whole nutha character, which even I am starting to see now when I watch other Superman movies and shows.

I know this is blasphemy - and maybe the dinner wine has gone to my head a little tonight - but I often wonder how a feature FILM about Clark Kent would do? Could they do a "Superman" movie with all of the action, intrigue and heart (think early chapters of Birthright) w/o Clark ever wearing the costume? Could it even be called a Superman movie? Or would that by definition make it a Smallville movie? Fanboys say any Superman film becomes a SV movie by virtue of casting Welling. But wouldn't it only be a SV movie if Clark *didn't* wear the costume? There's irony in there somewhere. Basically, he'd have to stay as super Clark for it to really BE a SV film. LOL

Okay, I'm laying off the wine. I hope I make it to bed...

[stumbles through one more paragraph]

Still, I'm sure I'll be plunking down my $$ to see it once, at least. But had they used more brain cells in the casting choices, I'd have seen it multiple times AND bought the DVD. ;)Yeah, same here. Unless they cast Danny DeVito or BR as Superman, I'll probably see it anyway too. I just don't expect I'll be sucked into the story - at all. I'll be going for the FX and bombastic sensory input LOL. And maybe the guy cast as Supes will have a hawt body that I can ogle. :O

[Paradoxium]

What I don't get is, how someone like Cotrona can get entertained as an option. As in 5'9 Cotrona. Yet here we have a guy that is a full feet taller than him as another option. I never imagined they will cast a guy even bigger taller than Reeve. No wonder they didn't cast a 5'7 Wonder Woman. She would look like a midget next to these guys (Bat/Supes).

[elgaz]

Daniel Cudmore looks ok I guess, but facially I don't see him as Superman at all. He doesn't have that strong, steely gaze, square jawed and kind yet determined look which Superman is deemed to possess. At least he's got the right build though.

I dunno, I see lots of names being bandied about for Superman but Welling still stands out a mile in terms of height, build, facial features and also personality. It's a pity that so many people put him down because of Smallville - if he had never been known for that and was presented as an unknown potential for the Superman role, I'm sure many here would think the guy had it all.

http://www.superheroprofiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/tomwelling1.jpg


Gaz

[Paradoxium]

if they got Welling, it would look wierd to have Armie Hammer next to him. Besides being a decade younger, he would tower over Welling (6'5 + boots and horns = 6'8-9). That would be just weird. Batman should not be taller than Superman.

[elgaz]

I think the mistake there has been getting Armie Hammer to play Batman. Bruce Wayne / Batman has always been 6ft+ and pretty leanly built, but 6"5 is a bit over the top to me. Again, the bigger these guys are, the harder it is to make their alter egoes believable.

Gaz

[The Incredible Hulk]

if they got Welling, it would look wierd to have Armie Hammer next to him. Besides being a decade younger, he would tower over Welling (6'5 + boots and horns = 6'8-9). That would be just weird. Batman should not be taller than Superman.

I dont know if he'd "tower" over him. Welling is 6'3" or 6'4" depending on the site you read, and he'd likely be wearing boots similar to what was in SR that add a few inches in height.

I'm sure playing with a few inches here or there isnt too difficult for the production people to handle. We're talking about the same producer who made John Rhys-Davies look like he was a four foot tall dwarf.

[Syncos]

I dont know if he'd "tower" over him. Welling is 6'3" or 6'4" depending on the site you read, and he'd likely be wearing boots similar to what was in SR that add a few inches in height.

I'm sure playing with a few inches here or there isnt too difficult for the production people to handle. We're talking about the same producer who made John Rhys-Davies look like he was a four foot tall dwarf.

Not to mention that batman's a broody stalker in the night type. he probably wont be standing straight, next to supes too often.

[Mike22]

About Wellings height compared to young Hammer...
Like Hulk stated..they`d simply use the same kind of boots that were used in SR that adds a few inches. Not to mention that Welling is AT LEAST 6'3.
And I highly doubt that they would have gone with such a tall batman had Welling actually been cast for the part. I only NOW fully accept that Welling will not have anything to do with this movie.

To bad. They`re never gonna find such a good match for superman.
Like the casting of Cudmore would prove... they might find someone with the height and build, but not height, build and face for superman.
There will always be something missing. Cudmore may physically look great, but when you look at the face that doesn`t look like supes at all...it`s just ..........incomplete .....and one can`t really FULLY accept him a supes, even if he`s very likable in the part.
The WB are nuts, Welling is about as good as it`s gonna get.

PURE SUPERMAN.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6753/supermanwellingdw1.png

[TheLongestDay]

Not to mention that batman's a broody stalker in the night type. he probably wont be standing straight, next to supes too often.

So is Superman isnt he?......:cwink:

[triplet]

So is Superman isnt he?......:cwink:

*snort*

:D

[LL2K2]

So is Superman isnt he?......:cwink:

:rolleyes:

[LL2K2]

So is Superman isnt he?......:cwink:

:rolleyes:

[jayskate]

last night I was watching the making of the 100th ep '' Reckoning '' and towards the end they had a screening of the episode on the Warner Brothers lot for everyone involved with the show .

I was thinking surely Warner Brothers must have thought this version of
Superman could realy work on the big screen . A version that acknowledges
the comics and the Richard Donners films but is a modern take on Superman .

Anyways I still think Tom Welling would be so right for Superman , particularly from this season where he looks older .

So yes I do think Warners are a bit nutty in not using whats right in front of them so to speak .

[Gmanofsteel]

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

[Gmanofsteel]

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

[triplet]

last night I was watching the making of the 100th ep '' Reckoning '' and towards the end they had a screening of the episode on the Warner Brothers lot for everyone involved with the show .

I was thinking surely Warner Brothers must have thought this version of
Superman could realy work on the big screen . A version that acknowledges
the comics and the Richard Donners films but is a modern take on Superman .

Anyways I still think Tom Welling would be so right for Superman , particularly from this season where he looks older .

So yes I do think Warners are a bit nutty in not using whats right in front of them so to speak .

Quoted for truth.

I even made my sig line about how stupid they are BIGGER!

[AgentPat]

So is Superman isnt he?......:cwink:Ba da'dum, PISH!

He'll be here all week, ladies and gents. Try the squab. :D :up:

Hee! That was funny, TLD! ;)


Okay, next?

The Sydney Morning Herald
12/7/07

A warm evening and hot, hot dresses - perfect conditions for a steamy red carpet at the second part of the Australian Film Awards in Melbourne last night...

[snip]

George Miller said his new film Justice League of America wasn't affected by the recent writers' strike in the US and is expected to start shooting in the new year, under a new name. However, Miller wouldn't comment on casting, including rumours of Megan Gale joining the film.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/stay-in-touch/hot-frocks-stars-and-a-new-rock/2007/12/06/1196812920583.htmlInteresting!

[JackMercy]

Ba da'dum, PISH!

He'll be here all week, ladies and gents. Try the squab. :D :up:

Hee! That was funny, TLD! ;)


Okay, next?

Interesting!


Yeah, it's gonna be called Force Majeure...

Ba-da-bum. Pish!

I'll be here all week, too, folks...

;)

[Docker2.0]

Quoted for truth.

I even made my sig line about how stupid they are BIGGER!

I think I will follow the leader! :cwink:

[AgentPat]

Yeah, it's gonna be called Force Majeure...

Ba-da-bum. Pish!

I'll be here all week, too, folks...

;)Jack, I swear to ZOD, you better not be serious!!!! I got off that freakin' roller coaster last month. :(



























Really? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/twitch2.gif

[triplet]

Ba da'dum, PISH!

He'll be here all week, ladies and gents. Try the squab. :D :up:

Squab?

*shudders*

I don't know about you, but I don't want to eat pigeon...

Okay, next?

The Sydney Morning Herald
12/7/07

A warm evening and hot, hot dresses - perfect conditions for a steamy red carpet at the second part of the Australian Film Awards in Melbourne last night...

[snip]

George Miller said his new film Justice League of America wasn't affected by the recent writers' strike in the US and is expected to start shooting in the new year, under a new name. However, Miller wouldn't comment on casting, including rumours of Megan Gale joining the film.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/stay-in-t...812920583.html (http://www.smh.com.au/news/stay-in-touch/hot-frocks-stars-and-a-new-rock/2007/12/06/1196812920583.html)


Interesting!



:confused:

What are they going to change the name to?

The Justice League of "all that other stuff"??

Yeah, it's gonna be called Force Majeure...

Ba-da-bum. Pish!

I'll be here all week, too, folks...

;)

LOL!

:D

I think I will follow the leader! :cwink:

Good man.

:up:

[triplet]

Jack, I swear to ZOD, you better not be serious!!!! I got off that freakin' roller coaster last month. :(





Really? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/twitch2.gif

Wait, you think his joke is actually a hint?

*headdesk*

[zerohour films]

Jack, I swear to ZOD, you better not be serious!!!! I got off that freakin' roller coaster last month. :(

I was thinking the same thing, but was reluctant to post...didn't want to get mine or anyone else's hopes up.

If so, guess I will by one more ticket for that roller coaster.

[AgentPat]

Squab?

*shudders*

I don't know about you, but I don't want to eat pigeon...It's a delicacy, doncha know?

:confused:

What are they going to change the name to?

The Justice League of "all that other stuff"??I believe they're just dropping off the "of America" part. The film would just be titled, "Justice League." Assuming it happens.

LOL!

:DHope springs eternal! :D

[AgentPat]

Wait, you think his joke is actually a hint?

*headdesk*Trip, ya never know with Jack. Don't shoot the messenger, remember. :p

[triplet]

Trip, ya never know with Jack. Don't shoot the messenger, remember. :p

*sigh*

[Migu-EL]

Yeah, it's gonna be called Force Majeure...

Ba-da-bum. Pish!

I'll be here all week, too, folks...

;)


Jack, I swear to ZOD, you better not be serious!!!! I got off that freakin' roller coaster last month. :(



























Really? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/twitch2.gif

What's that supposed to mean?:huh:




On another note, ignore the smilies I'm about to post, I just want to give the new ones a test drive. :brucebat: :ss: :ikyn

[triplet]

On another note, ignore the smilies I'm about to post, I just want to give the new ones a test drive. :brucebat: :ss: :ikyn

There are some weird ass new smilies.

I like that they are adding and giving us options, but what the heck is Boba Fett doing on this site?

:boba:

I would like to see a barfing one.

[Migu-EL]

There are some weird ass new smilies.

I like that they are adding and giving us options, but what the heck is Boba Fett doing on this site?

:boba:

I would like to see a barfing one.

LOL:grin:

[The Incredible Hulk]

Yeah, it's gonna be called Force Majeure...

Ba-da-bum. Pish!

I'll be here all week, too, folks...

;)


Now you're speaking MY language.....



Seriously? :bh:

[triplet]

LOL:grin:

I think a barfing smilie would come in very handy in this thread especially...

:ninja:

[Migu-EL]

I think a barfing smilie would come in very handy in this thread especially...

:ninja:

Yes this rollercoaster is starting to make me feel queasy.
http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/mlasalle/2007/09/28/vomiting.jpg

[The Sage]

I think I will follow the leader! :cwink:

Then swear your allegiance to the Sage. :cwink:

[DvilDog]

Yeah, it's gonna be called Force Majeure...

Ba-da-bum. Pish!

I'll be here all week, too, folks...

;)

Force Majeure

And now I am back on the roller coaster again. I stayed away as long as I could. BTW I had no idea what that term meant until i read it on wiki. Guess im not as smart as I like to think.

[RakuMon]

Yeah, it's gonna be called Force Majeure...

Ba-da-bum. Pish!

I'll be here all week, too, folks...

;)

[Michael Corleone] Just when I thought that I was out they pull me back in. [/Michael Corleone]

[zerohour films]

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/777/20070712fiestatexastripru8.th.png (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20070712fiestatexastripru8.png)


WWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

[AgentPat]

*sigh*Awww! It's all in good fun. 'Sides, it aint like we have anything to lose, j'know? LOL ;)

Warner Bros. press announcement, Dec 17th? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/nervous.gif

^ How rumors get started. :p

What's that supposed to mean?:huh:Well, it's all a bit technical[/Bruce Wayne] 'cause I'm not quite sure how this effects SV specifically, but effect it, it does. Force majeure terms provide opt-out provisions in the event of an occurrence beyond the control of the parties. The usual period to trigger actual termination is four to six weeks once a strike has begun (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975369). Under force majeure provisions covering SAG actors, producers can either terminate an actor and lose exclusivity for the season or suspend thesps for five weeks and pay half salary with the performer still bound to the contract. At five weeks, the employer can terminate and lose exclusivity or restore full salary with exclusivity. If the series resumes and the actor has been terminated, they can be called back. But there's no more exclusivity.

^ So *that* definition talks about force majeure triggering four to six weeks once a strike has begun. The WGA strike started officially on Nov 5th.

But wait! It gets complicated...

...Once TV shows have been shut down for five weeks, actors who were downgraded to half-pay by studios will either have to be restored to full salary or else be made free agents through force majeure. While it is doubtful the latter will happen with the stars of hits like "The Office," "Grey's Anatomy" and "Heroes," a prolonged strike could prompt studios to cut deals with those actors that would open them up for feature availability. That means Steve Carell, Patrick Dempsey and Katherine Heigl, Hayden Panettiere and her "Heroes" cohorts could take film jobs.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117976892

So which is it? Does it become effective 4-6 weeks from the start of the strike - in this case Nov 5th - or is it 4-6 weeks from the point the show has shut down? Because SV is still in production, and it will remain in production till late January at the earliest. Or do they consider "in production" as actively writing scripts? This is what *I* need explained, because until then, the window could be as early as next week, or as late as March sometime.

Furthermore, what happens if the strike ends *after* an actor was released under force majeure and he/she went on to accept another gig in the interim - one that is skedded to last say three months in production? Can the producers demand that actor return to the production they were released from, or does the second contract take precedence, and the former production just has to wait? I *really* need to understand the legalese better with these hypothetical situations, because I'm feeling around in the dark w/o clarification otherwise.

Anyhoo...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/bunny.jpg

:D

I think a barfing smilie would come in very handy in this thread especially...I'd rather not invite any more drive-by posters, 'cause a barfing smilie might be a little too tempting to a troll.

[Migu-EL]

Awww! It's all in good fun. 'Sides, it aint like we have anything to lose, j'know? LOL ;)

Warner Bros. press announcement, Dec 17th? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/nervous.gif

^ How rumors get started. :p

Well, it's all a bit technical[/Bruce Wayne] 'cause I'm not quite sure how this effects SV specifically, but effect it, it does. Force majeure terms provide opt-out provisions in the event of an occurrence beyond the control of the parties. The usual period to trigger actual termination is four to six weeks once a strike has begun (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975369). Under force majeure provisions covering SAG actors, producers can either terminate an actor and lose exclusivity for the season or suspend thesps for five weeks and pay half salary with the performer still bound to the contract. At five weeks, the employer can terminate and lose exclusivity or restore full salary with exclusivity. If the series resumes and the actor has been terminated, they can be called back. But there's no more exclusivity.

^ So *that* definition talks about force majeure triggering four to six weeks once a strike has begun. The WGA strike started officially on Nov 5th.

But wait! It gets complicated...

...Once TV shows have been shut down for five weeks, actors who were downgraded to half-pay by studios will either have to be restored to full salary or else be made free agents through force majeure. While it is doubtful the latter will happen with the stars of hits like "The Office," "Grey's Anatomy" and "Heroes," a prolonged strike could prompt studios to cut deals with those actors that would open them up for feature availability. That means Steve Carell, Patrick Dempsey and Katherine Heigl, Hayden Panettiere and her "Heroes" cohorts could take film jobs.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117976892

So which is it? Does it become effective 4-6 weeks from the start of the strike - in this case Nov 5th - or is it 4-6 weeks from the point the show has shut down? Because SV is still in production, and it will remain in production till late January at the earliest. Or do they consider "in production" as actively writing scripts? This is what *I* need explained, because until then, the window could be as early as next week, or as late as March sometime.

Furthermore, what happens if the strike ends *after* an actor was released under force majeure and he/she went on to accept another gig in the interim - one that is skedded to last say three months in production? Can the producers demand that actor return to the production they were released from, or does the second contract take precedence, and the former production just has to wait? I *really* need to understand the legalese better with these hypothetical situations, because I'm feeling around in the dark w/o clarification otherwise.

Anyhoo...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/bunny.jpg

:D




It took me a second but then it all made sense. Thanks for the clearification Pat.:yay:

[AgentPat]

...Hi! Your post has been reported. :)

http://forums.superherohype.com/faq.php?faq=new_faq_item#faq_new_faq_item_trolling

[rumpuso]

Personally, I like her sig.

She'll look you straight in the eye while she trolls a message board.

[AgentPat]

Let it go folks. The mods will take care of her. Cmill? Matt?

[Holly]

you guys are kind of mean, i could have nice things to say about Smallville too. but no, you concentrate on the negative. it says a lot about your character. for instance...Green Arrow is hot.

[Dew k. Mosi]

Holly has a right to her opinions, but if she was smart, she would realize that they will be unpopular and there is really no need for her to share them in this thread. Understood, Holly?

[Holly]

i think its ridiculous that someone cant say ANYTHING negative about Smallville without repercussions. if that's how this place is then re-name it to the Praise Tom Welling Cult forum with a sticky ..warning anyone else who mistakingly posts an opinion that other people might not agree with. i had an opinion, i stated it...if they dont agree with it, they can choose to ignore it. it's not like i repeatedly came here over and over again bashing Tom Welling. i posted one sentence then get labeled a troll because my opinion is different. then i get a warning because i think he's ugly!? that's beyond my comprehension and into pure sillyness. i hope the mods are passing out infractions to everyone else who has a differing opinion to the matter at hand, and not just singling me out.

[AgentPat]

^ Take your complaints to the mods. There's a difference between posting an "unpopular opinion" and "posting in an established thread or forum for the express purpose of ticking off as many people as possible." The latter is trolling. Read the FAQ.

[Cmill216]

i think its ridiculous that someone cant say ANYTHING negative about Smallville without repercussions.

Grossly untrue. As someone who frequents this forum myself, I've had a fair share of criticisms of the series, as have many others. But there's a difference between voicing an actual opinion of the show, and posting random nonsense about how the show's star looks like a frog and then citing someone else's "weiner" in an entirely irrelevant manner.

i had an opinion, i stated it...

i posted one sentence then get labeled a troll because my opinion is different.

i hope the mods are passing out infractions to everyone else who has a differing opinion

What's amazing to me is how you're twisting your original post in a way to make it look like a valid opinion, when in fact it was nothing more than a completely random trollish act.

"Tom Welling looks like a tadpole with a mullet. Brandon Routh is a major improvement. so is his weiner"

A valid opinion? Really?

Feel free to PM me if you or anyone else wants to discuss this further.

[triplet]

*peeks in and heads right back out of this thread*

[TheLongestDay]

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[C. Lee]

I like that they are adding and giving us options, but what the heck is Boba Fett doing on this site?

:boba:
He's looking for some guy named Solo........he came here to get him, but only found Robert Vaughn......so he's still searching.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Well, it's all a bit technical[/Bruce Wayne] 'cause I'm not quite sure how this effects SV specifically, but effect it, it does. Force majeure terms provide opt-out provisions in the event of an occurrence beyond the control of the parties. The usual period to trigger actual termination is four to six weeks once a strike has begun (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975369). Under force majeure provisions covering SAG actors, producers can either terminate an actor and lose exclusivity for the season or suspend thesps for five weeks and pay half salary with the performer still bound to the contract. At five weeks, the employer can terminate and lose exclusivity or restore full salary with exclusivity. If the series resumes and the actor has been terminated, they can be called back. But there's no more exclusivity.

^ So *that* definition talks about force majeure triggering four to six weeks once a strike has begun. The WGA strike started officially on Nov 5th.

But wait! It gets complicated...

...Once TV shows have been shut down for five weeks, actors who were downgraded to half-pay by studios will either have to be restored to full salary or else be made free agents through force majeure. While it is doubtful the latter will happen with the stars of hits like "The Office," "Grey's Anatomy" and "Heroes," a prolonged strike could prompt studios to cut deals with those actors that would open them up for feature availability. That means Steve Carell, Patrick Dempsey and Katherine Heigl, Hayden Panettiere and her "Heroes" cohorts could take film jobs.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117976892

So which is it? Does it become effective 4-6 weeks from the start of the strike - in this case Nov 5th - or is it 4-6 weeks from the point the show has shut down? Because SV is still in production, and it will remain in production till late January at the earliest. Or do they consider "in production" as actively writing scripts? This is what *I* need explained, because until then, the window could be as early as next week, or as late as March sometime.

I can clear this up for you. The actors arent the ones going on strike, so the 4-6 week timeframe for force majeure to kick in would start once they actually stop working, so it would be 4-6 weeks after production ceases. As long as actors are filming they're still performing their contractual duties as are the studios. Once the studio has to halt production, the clock for clauses like FM starts ticking.


Furthermore, what happens if the strike ends *after* an actor was released under force majeure and he/she went on to accept another gig in the interim - one that is skedded to last say three months in production? Can the producers demand that actor return to the production they were released from, or does the second contract take precedence, and the former production just has to wait? I *really* need to understand the legalese better with these hypothetical situations, because I'm feeling around in the dark w/o clarification otherwise.

Would depend on how it was worded but going from my legal background I'd say that 90% of the time the newer contract would have precedence over the older since once the older one has FM kick in it's basically voided.

The kicker is, with a contract for multiple seasons, the part of the contract for the remainder of the season may be all that's voided so Tom could do whatever he wanted until the normal timeframe when Season 8 would go into production and then Smallville owns him again.

A lot of it depends on how thorough the parties were when the contract was banged out. When Tom re-upped for an 8th season last year, they may have had the foresight to see the strike coming, and put some restrictions on any kind of strike-related FM scenario.

Another thing to consider is that after a certain amount of time passes, FM becomes a moot point since they wont be able to make any more episodes in time for the rest of the season anyway. If this strike is still going come mid-February, they'll likely just forgo the rest of the season anyway.

[AgentPat]

I can clear this up for you. The actors arent the ones going on strike, so the 4-6 week timeframe for force majeure to kick in would start once they actually stop working, so it would be 4-6 weeks after production ceases. As long as actors are filming they're still performing their contractual duties as are the studios. Once the studio has to halt production, the clock for clauses like FM starts ticking.

Would depend on how it was worded but going from my legal background I'd say that 90% of the time the newer contract would have precedence over the older since once the older one has FM kick in it's basically voided.

The kicker is, with a contract for multiple seasons, the part of the contract for the remainder of the season may be all that's voided so Tom could do whatever he wanted until the normal timeframe when Season 8 would go into production and then Smallville owns him again.

A lot of it depends on how thorough the parties were when the contract was banged out. When Tom re-upped for an 8th season last year, they may have had the foresight to see the strike coming, and put some restrictions on any kind of strike-related FM scenario.

Another thing to consider is that after a certain amount of time passes, FM becomes a moot point since they wont be able to make any more episodes in time for the rest of the season anyway. If this strike is still going come mid-February, they'll likely just forgo the rest of the season anyway.AHHHH!!! Thank you! That helps a lot. :up:

Now the question becomes, what is the point of no return for SV S7? ;)

[triplet]

He's looking for some guy named Solo........he came here to get him, but only found Robert Vaughn......so he's still searching.

LOL!

:D

I can clear this up for you....

Thanks!

:up:

AHHHH!!! Thank you! That helps a lot. :up:

Now the question becomes, what is the point of no return for SV S7? ;)

I thought it was sometime in January...

Not sure where I got that idea, had anyone said for sure? Has Gough said anything online?

:confused:

[Serene]

Damn. I miss all the fun when I'm gone all day.

Jack speaking in French (like he wasn't hard enough to understand before. ;)), and someone actually using the word...heh... "weiner." :shock:

Just another fun day in the SHH-SV forum.

Btw... HI! :pal:

[AgentPat]

I thought it was sometime in January...

Not sure where I got that idea, had anyone said for sure? Has Gough said anything online?

:confused:I don't believe it's ever been pinpointed; we've all just been taking educated guesses. And "close" only counts in a game of horse shoes. ;) :D

[Mikelus]

He's looking for some guy named Solo........he came here to get him, but only found Robert Vaughn......so he's still searching.

We're missing Mr. Vader, the dark side is stronger with him. ;) :woot:

Will WB announce the casting for JLA before the year is over? :huh:

[Serene]

I don't believe it's ever been pinpointed; we've all just been taking educated guesses. And "close" only counts in a game of horse shoes. ;) :D

And hand grenades.

Sorry, had to quote my dad.

[Docker2.0]

I find it funny that the film is said to be on schedule but the cast has yet to be announced. This lets me know that cast may not be up to par and that maybe the WB is hearing all these jokes about it online. Don't think that SHH is the only site that is putting this movie down. It's being insulted everywhere about the cast and it wouldn't surprise me if Brody did indeed drop but was convinced to come back on staff. The reports about the casting and the response has been simply brutal and the WB knows this. They had a lot of fallout behind Catwoman and to a degree SR and they don't want to make the same mistake twice. I know they are going forward with the movie since SR didn't make the money it was suppose to make and they need their "Spidey franchise" and they see this as being it. I still say they are going about this the wrong way. Release Flash and GL first and then go from there. Why did I put this in this thread? Simple! In order to give this JLA any kind of credit, they needed to cast either Routh or Welling. Casting someone else in the role now will makes the WB looks yet dumber than ever. I don't see why they can't cast Routh becuase Bale doesn't want anything to do with it. Bale's Batman is "real" while Routh's is fantasy. This movie is surrounded by so much confusion it's crazy! :huh:

[phil]

I find it funny that the film is said to be on schedule but the cast has yet to be announced. This lets me know that cast may not be up to par and that maybe the WB is hearing all these jokes about it online. Don't think that SHH is the only site that is putting this movie down. It's being insulted everywhere about the cast and it wouldn't surprise me if Brody did indeed drop but was convinced to come back on staff. The reports about the casting and the response has been simply brutal and the WB knows this. They had a lot of fallout behind Catwoman and to a degree SR and they don't want to make the same mistake twice. I know they are going forward with the movie since SR didn't make the money it was suppose to make and they need their "Spidey franchise" and they see this as being it. I still say they are going about this the wrong way. Release Flash and GL first and then go from there. Why did I put this in this thread? Simple! In order to give this JLA any kind of credit, they needed to cast either Routh or Welling. Casting someone else in the role now will makes the WB looks yet dumber than ever. I don't see why they can't cast Routh becuase Bale doesn't want anything to do with it. Bale's Batman is "real" while Routh's is fantasy. This movie is surrounded by so much confusion it's crazy! :huh:
Then why cast Routh? He had so much bad buzz around his Superman it's disturbing. He did that role no justice at all but yet you think it's a good move to cast him in yet another bigbudget film? After a bigbudget Superman movie he's an afterthought, his acting was very subpar. The last thing they should do is cast Routh. And besides it was NEVER Bale/Routh it was Bale/Welling as far as the first choice went for this film. Multiple people have said that.

[Docker2.0]

The RUMORS I heard had Bale vs. Routh. Routh did a ok job for the lines/role he was given. Blame Singer for giving him 5 lines to say.

[phil]

The RUMORS I heard had Bale vs. Routh. Routh did a ok job for the lines/role he was given. Blame Singer for giving him 5 lines to say.

Sorry it one of the worst performances I've ever seen for a lead actor in a bigbudget film.
And it was all over the internet that they were in talks with Welling from the beginning.